6th Man of St. John's Basketball

St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting => 2019 Class => Topic started by: colelatshaw2010 on May 01, 2019, 10:11:40 AM

Title: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on May 01, 2019, 10:11:40 AM
A 2019 3 star point guard ranked by 247 at 272.  He recently received an offer from CMA and is supposedly making his college decision in the coming days.  Also receiving interest from Northwestern, Southern Illinois, Michigan and UMass.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Marillac on May 01, 2019, 10:54:49 AM
Committed to us today. Welcome aboard.

I like smaller PGs if they are gritty. I liked the kid Glenn Anderson from Brooklyn Collegiate too.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on May 01, 2019, 11:05:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbksm7t2PWU
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Johnny23 on May 01, 2019, 11:11:58 AM
Nice pickup. DC area, tough kid. A guard with strong handle who can break down opposing defenses. Exactly what this team has been lacking outside of Ponds. Anderson has a plan and this is a good addition regardless of his ranking. Had some solid offers too.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: redmen4life on May 01, 2019, 11:28:29 AM
this kid has some major handles. i see a lot of showtime hill....

love that he can breakdown defenses.  nice addition so late in the period
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on May 01, 2019, 11:30:50 AM
Can’t find where it says he committed. Saw he’s announcing in 2 days.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: pmg911 on May 01, 2019, 11:42:49 AM
Committed to us today. Welcome aboard.

I like smaller PGs if they are gritty. I liked the kid Glenn Anderson from Brooklyn Collegiate too.

Honestly, where are you seeing that..?
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Marillac on May 01, 2019, 04:36:30 PM
Sorry, I think I misinterpreted a message about him being CMAs first recruit. I never heard of him until today and have no inside info.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: SJUFAN on May 01, 2019, 05:59:24 PM
This is the type of a PG we need. Hope it happens.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Celtics11 on May 01, 2019, 06:50:12 PM
Sorry, I think I misinterpreted a message about him being CMAs first recruit. I never heard of him until today and have no inside info.
Are you slow? LOL Apology accepted.  :)
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Lycidas on May 01, 2019, 07:24:55 PM
This seems like a lazy and desperate move. Why tie up a scholarship for 4 years on a 3 star midget point guard? Can't we lock down an experienced grad student to fill our need next year while recruiting a bonafide Big East point guard for 2020?
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: sju89tr on May 01, 2019, 08:04:30 PM
This seems like a lazy and desperate move. Why tie up a scholarship for 4 years on a 3 star midget point guard? Can't we lock down an experienced grad student to fill our need next year while recruiting a bonafide Big East point guard for 2020?

+1
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Poison on May 01, 2019, 08:51:59 PM
This seems like a lazy and desperate move. Why tie up a scholarship for 4 years on a 3 star midget point guard? Can't we lock down an experienced grad student to fill our need next year while recruiting a bonafide Big East point guard for 2020?

And you can tell all that from what? Stars?
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on May 01, 2019, 08:52:59 PM
This seems like a lazy and desperate move. Why tie up a scholarship for 4 years on a 3 star midget point guard?

That seems like a lazy and desperate attempt at drawing a conclusion about a player and staff.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: buckeyestorm on May 01, 2019, 08:55:32 PM
Offers from Minn KState RU at least we know there is interest for other P6 schools
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: hogwood on May 01, 2019, 09:44:33 PM
This kid would be great for Mike. Basically the epitome of what Mike wants in a PG. The kid has been an AAU lifer, making some of the bigger camps, and played for Huntington Prep - nice resume.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Marillac on May 01, 2019, 10:11:33 PM
Are you slow? LOL Apology accepted.  :)

I was distracted by researching coolers and hammocks all day. I really get into my purchases these days. Perhaps a sign of low T.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: mjdinkins on May 02, 2019, 12:23:06 AM
This seems like a lazy and desperate move. Why tie up a scholarship for 4 years on a 3 star midget point guard? Can't we lock down an experienced grad student to fill our need next year while recruiting a bonafide Big East point guard for 2020?

Says the guy who came up with any and every excuse (and also figured beating up on "Sisters of the Poor" was progress) when it came to the other staff.

I don't know....  It just seems kinda odd. 
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: Marillac on May 02, 2019, 12:58:13 AM
I prefer Anderson.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on May 02, 2019, 11:13:58 AM
I prefer Anderson.
Why's that?
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on May 02, 2019, 11:37:56 AM
McGriff announcing around 12 according to his twitter
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - Huntington Prep
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on May 02, 2019, 12:22:41 PM
Just committed to SJU. Welcome Johnathan.  I really think this kid's skills could fit CMA's style well.

Kudos to Marillac who had this a day early ;)
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: jumpinjohnny on May 02, 2019, 12:43:09 PM
Welcome aboard!  Desperately needed a PG...like his offer list.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: jumpinjohnny on May 02, 2019, 12:54:33 PM

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Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Johnny23 on May 02, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
Good pickup. Exactly the type of penetrating PG this roster has so sorely needed.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: QuanMan on May 02, 2019, 01:52:01 PM
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Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on May 02, 2019, 02:09:39 PM
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Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: hogwood on May 02, 2019, 10:21:27 PM
This is great news. In all his time at Arkansas I've never seen Mike bring in a PG that fit as well as how it seems McGriff will.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Rockoff RazorStorm on May 04, 2019, 08:47:59 AM
This is great news. In all his time at Arkansas I've never seen Mike bring in a PG that fit as well as how it seems McGriff will.
Unfortunately he never got the opportunity to coach Justice Hill.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Johnny23 on May 04, 2019, 08:54:40 AM
This is great news. In all his time at Arkansas I've never seen Mike bring in a PG that fit as well as how it seems McGriff will.

This kid is a prime example of the bball talent hotbeds that Mike now has access to all within a 4 hour drive down I-95. A ton of under the radar kids he can now check out in NYC, NJ, Philly, Maryland and DC. Some of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country. Yes he's pulled talent from talented areas in the South/Midwest but now he's got an even richer patch to farm when he's looking at more "local" kids.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on May 09, 2019, 07:38:37 PM
I’ve drastically upgraded my take on McGriff after watching more tape. I’m very pleased with this addition. I’m all in on him.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: QuanMan on May 22, 2019, 09:33:13 AM
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Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: derk on May 24, 2019, 11:32:40 AM
I’ve drastically upgraded my take on McGriff after watching more tape. I’m very pleased with this addition. I’m all in on him.

What did you upgrade ?
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on May 24, 2019, 01:53:14 PM
What did you upgrade ?


Having taken both sides he's upgraded his odds of having been right all along.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on May 27, 2019, 11:13:23 AM
What did you upgrade ?

My opinion of him. I think he’s a very good pickup. I’d like to see him play with a stud PG as he seems more like a 2nd PG at this level. That is an extremely important role.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Celtics11 on May 27, 2019, 01:15:12 PM
My opinion of him. I think he’s a very good pickup. I’d like to see him play with a stud PG as he seems more like a 2nd PG at this level. That is an extremely important role.
Think he meant details-duh-what about him did you learn (ie. basketball skill wise, leadership qualities) that you upgraded your opinion of him?
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on May 30, 2019, 11:21:04 AM
Think he meant details-duh-what about him did you learn (ie. basketball skill wise, leadership qualities) that you upgraded your opinion of him?

I severely underestimated his handle based on insufficient (even for me) video.

After watching more of him I came away impressed. As I’ve made it painfully clear over the years, I strongly believe that second natural ball-handler is HUGE for teams. IMO that held us back more than a lack of a big man last year and we were terrible up front.

I’m not trying to play it both ways as Foad opined, I just rushed my first opinion which was lukewarm.

I now think he’ll make a terrific second PG playing behind and at times with a kid like Thornton this coming season and a kid like Curbello after that.

Looks like a four year player you build around and who does some quiet damage as an upperclassman in 18-24 minutes.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on May 30, 2019, 11:40:58 AM
I severely underestimated his handle based on insufficient (even for me) video.

After watching more of him I came away impressed. As I’ve made it painfully clear over the years, I strongly believe that second natural ball-handler is HUGE for teams. IMO that held us back more than a lack of a big man last year and we were terrible up front.

I’m not trying to play it both ways as Foad opined, I just rushed my first opinion which was lukewarm.

I now think he’ll make a terrific second PG playing behind and at times with a kid like Thornton this coming season and a kid like Curbello after that.

Looks like a four year player you build around and who does some quiet damage as an upperclassman in 18-24 minutes.
Glad to hear you've changed your mind on McGriff Marillac.  I was very impressed with his handle, speed, defense and passing ability from the videos I've seen.  His jump shot will definitely need some work but I think he can be a very serviceable back up point guard. 100% agree with you that I would be ecstatic with the pg position if McGriff is the backup to Thornton this year.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on May 30, 2019, 10:59:31 PM
Glad to hear you've changed your mind on McGriff Marillac.  I was very impressed with his handle, speed, defense and passing ability from the videos I've seen.  His jump shot will definitely need some work but I think he can be a very serviceable back up point guard. 100% agree with you that I would be ecstatic with the pg position if McGriff is the backup to Thornton this year.

For defense, I’m going on what others say about him. I haven’t seen him play D. I have seen the Champagnie kid play against Cardinal Hayes and it wasn’t pretty.
Title: Re: Johnathan McGriff - PG - Huntington Prep - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on May 31, 2019, 09:24:28 AM
For defense, I’m going on what others say about him. I haven’t seen him play D. I have seen the Champagnie kid play against Cardinal Hayes and it wasn’t pretty.
Ugh not good to hear about Champagnie.  Hopefully staff views him as more of a end of the bench/ project type.

There's a pretty good youtube video of McGriff playing D on Julian Newman who used to be considered one of the best players in his age group when he first started playing varsity basketball in the fifth grade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycaHUbxkyz4&t=1081s