6th Man of St. John's Basketball

Non-Sport Related Discussion => Union and Utopia => Topic started by: JohnnyJungle on December 14, 2008, 09:25:09 PM

Title: Father Harrington: Campus builder or Basketball killer?
Post by: JohnnyJungle on December 14, 2008, 09:25:09 PM
Is he really to blame for the basketball program? Have other programs seen resurrection due to change in their school president? Or does it fall more under the AD?

Has Ft. Harrington led the school to more students, more $$$, more buildings?

What exactly is his job? Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Father Harrington: Campus builder or Basketball killer?
Post by: JohnnyJungle on December 16, 2008, 12:42:22 AM
What exactly is his job? Does anyone know?
Title: Re: Father Harrington: Campus builder or Basketball killer?
Post by: kob24 on December 16, 2008, 05:41:17 AM
everyone says norm is to blame fire norm and his staff. But who put him there and who gave him a extension. Who wants him to run a totally clean ship? FH
Title: Re: Father Harrington: Campus builder or Basketball killer?
Post by: Marillac on December 17, 2008, 02:43:38 PM
IMO Father Harrington has done an excellent job in many areas of building the university.  One area he has been horrible with is basketball. He needs to stay out of it and he needs to keep Louie out of it. 
Title: Re: Father Harrington: Campus builder or Basketball killer?
Post by: Choz4Life on December 17, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
IMO Father Harrington has done an excellent job in many areas of building the university.  One area he has been horrible with is basketball. He needs to stay out of it and he needs to keep Louie out of it. 

Seem reasonable.
Title: Re: Father Harrington: Campus builder or Basketball killer?
Post by: Tha Kid on December 18, 2008, 09:42:02 AM
IMO Father Harrington has done an excellent job in many areas of building the university.  One area he has been horrible with is basketball. He needs to stay out of it and he needs to keep Louie out of it. 


That's the problem.  If the President is doing a great job overall, how can you remove him from only one aspect?  Who  has authority to do that?  The answer and decision has to come from within himself, which I doubt will ever occur.
Title: Re: Father Harrington: Campus builder or Basketball killer?
Post by: Marillac on December 18, 2008, 05:50:39 PM
IMO Father Harrington has done an excellent job in many areas of building the university.  One area he has been horrible with is basketball. He needs to stay out of it and he needs to keep Louie out of it. 


That's the problem.  If the President is doing a great job overall, how can you remove him from only one aspect?  Who  has authority to do that?  The answer and decision has to come from within himself, which I doubt will ever occur.

Technically the board of directors are above him.  Unfortunately it is an unwritten rule with BOD's all across the country to stay out of coaching searches. 

I met with the board a few times while I was a student, and they seemed pretty eager to get the students take on things.  I don't know who remains from that board, but I'm sure the students could convince them to put some pressure on Father Harrington to stay out. 

After all, him interfering with a coaching hire is not his job and how much different is that than him interfering with a professor's class?
Title: Re: Father Harrington: Campus builder or Basketball killer?
Post by: newsman13 on December 21, 2008, 01:30:55 AM
the president is basically a fund raiser.  who's to say how good a job he's done.  most of the students and alums are from working class families, so he can't compete with the ivy's of the world. 

we also will never know if his connection with bear stearns cost the school millions...or why the school spent a fortune on the oakdale campus which is a white elephant he'll never sell without taking a bath.