6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: mjdinkins on July 29, 2010, 02:29:43 PM
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2012 four-star forward Savon Goodman had a strong showing in the desert. Villanova, Texas, Rutgers, Miami and Penn State have offered, including all the area Philadelphia schools. Interest is also coming in from West Virginia, Georgetown, North Carolina, Duke, North Carolina State, Marquette, Xavier and St. John's.
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107455 (http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107455)
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2012 four-star forward Savon Goodman had a strong showing in the desert. Villanova, Texas, Rutgers, Miami and Penn State have offered, including all the area Philadelphia schools. Interest is also coming in from West Virginia, Georgetown, North Carolina, Duke, North Carolina State, Marquette, Xavier and St. John's.
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107455 (http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107455)
I love this kid's mix of strength and athleticism (works with Tyreke Evans and his trainer, Lamont). Savon's a nice kid off of the court, but a nasty mf on it. He plays with Rak Christmas and Malcolm Gilbert in hs and with Amile Jefferson on the AAU circuit.
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2010 Savon Goodman highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ypN-Ej92U4#)
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Duke is looking at him today.
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[tweet]http://twitter.com/NBESports/status/25786985564[/tweet]
Savon Bil Goodman's AAU coach Kyle Sample on Goodman's recruitment: "He really likes Villanova and Duke a lot."
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Any relation to Tamir?
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This kid is really, REALLY good. Saw him last season.
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Any relation to Tamir?
No, relation to the "Jewish Jordan." For a young fella, he's got a very similar voice to Ving Rhames.
This kid is really, REALLY good. Saw him last season.
He's got a ferocious nature to his game. He told me that he and Lamont Peterson work primarily on his skill set, not enhancing his athleticism.
He and Amile absolutely crushed the 16s in Vegas. They were manhandling teams all the way through the Finals. Their coach had some personal issues and so Mr. Jefferson took over. Savon, Norm Powell, and Amir Garrett were dunking machines at the Pangos AA Camp in Long Beach. He was the captain of the hs team, with Rak Christmas and Malcolm Gilbert, as a sophomore.
I thought Amile improved even more over the past ten months, but they play so well together. Power and finesse.
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On Twitter, seeing rumor that Savon Goodman will commit to Villanova, via Philadelphia Inquirer's Keith Pompey.
[tweet]http://twitter.com/pompeysgridlock/status/9308616322457600[/tweet]
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Huge get for Nova...damn. I'm glad our class has a year up on him (two for Polee). They are going to need every bit of college weight lifting to be ready for this beast. The only one of our guys strong enough right now to handle him is probably Dom. I think Sampson can get there by his soph season.
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On Twitter, seeing rumor that Savon Goodman will commit to Villanova, via Philadelphia Inquirer's Keith Pompey.
[tweet]http://twitter.com/pompeysgridlock/status/9308616322457600[/tweet]
He had 24 and 14 the other night in an upset of then #1 Findlay (Myck Kabongo, Nick Johnson, Amir Garrett, etc.).
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On Twitter, seeing rumor that Savon Goodman will commit to Villanova, via Philadelphia Inquirer's Keith Pompey.
[tweet]http://twitter.com/pompeysgridlock/status/9308616322457600[/tweet]
He had 24 and 14 the other night in an upset of then #1 Findlay (Myck Kabongo, Nick Johnson, Amir Garrett, etc.).
Who covered him? I'm assuming one of the younger forwards?
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On Twitter, seeing rumor that Savon Goodman will commit to Villanova, via Philadelphia Inquirer's Keith Pompey.
[tweet]http://twitter.com/pompeysgridlock/status/9308616322457600[/tweet]
He had 24 and 14 the other night in an upset of then #1 Findlay (Myck Kabongo, Nick Johnson, Amir Garrett, etc.).
Who covered him? I'm assuming one of the younger forwards?
I wasn't at the game (Illinois), but I can ask. I'd suspect a combination of Sheppard, Garrett, NGW, and Johnson. I was told Gilbert of Pitt also played hard on both ends (not always a given) for ANC.
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Looks like a young Larry Johnson.
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He decommitted and is opening it up.
http://coast2coastrecruiting.net/2011/08/savon-goodman-back-on-the-market/ (http://coast2coastrecruiting.net/2011/08/savon-goodman-back-on-the-market/)
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This is interesting. I wonder if 'Nove was looking to open up a scholly for Amile.
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From Dave Telep: Savon Goodman no longer committed to Villanova. Now at Constitution. Look for UK, Villa, KU, SJU, Louisville, Texas, UCLA, Zona, maybe more
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Wow, didn't someone (MCNPA?) say he was reclassifying?
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Article from Zags, mentions him going into college in 2013
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/27/sources-goodman-to-decommit-from-villanova/#more-56635 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/27/sources-goodman-to-decommit-from-villanova/#more-56635)
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From Dave Telep: Savon Goodman no longer committed to Villanova. Now at Constitution. Look for UK, Villa, KU, SJU, Louisville, Texas, UCLA, Zona, maybe more
On the discussion of a Kyle Anderson/Shabazz Mohammad package to UCLA....
Interestingly, Savon Goodman took an "Official" visit (per the UCLA Scout site) at UCLA this weekend - not an unofficial. The Bruins 2012 class has already accepted a verbal from 6'5 SF Jordan Adams (Oak Hill's #2 scorer this past season). As a Bruin fan, I certainly hope the long held belief that SF Shabazz Mohammad is a strong UCLA lean is true, but using one of their officials for a THIRD 2012 SF sure sounds like Ben Howland is hedging his bets. As a Bruin fan I really want Shabazz at UCLA - and Kyle as well! No Shabazz almost assuredly means no Kyle. The timing of this Goodman official concerns me, and should encourange y'all....
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I'd take it the other way if I were you. Savon and Kyle are close. Savon is now 2013 and is more of a 4 for now. Him being flown out the same weekend that Kyle was there doesn't seem like a coincidence by Howland.
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From Dave Telep: Savon Goodman no longer committed to Villanova. Now at Constitution. Look for UK, Villa, KU, SJU, Louisville, Texas, UCLA, Zona, maybe more
On the discussion of a Kyle Anderson/Shabazz Mohammad package to UCLA....
Interestingly, Savon Goodman took an "Official" visit (per the UCLA Scout site) at UCLA this weekend - not an unofficial. The Bruins 2012 class has already accepted a verbal from 6'5 SF Jordan Adams (Oak Hill's #2 scorer this past season). As a Bruin fan, I certainly hope the long held belief that SF Shabazz Mohammad is a strong UCLA lean is true, but using one of their officials for a THIRD 2012 SF sure sounds like Ben Howland is hedging his bets. As a Bruin fan I really want Shabazz at UCLA - and Kyle as well! No Shabazz almost assuredly means no Kyle. The timing of this Goodman official concerns me, and should encourange y'all....
How does it work as an official if he plans to drop back to 2013? Do his officials start back to 0 when he reclassifies? Also doesn't the school year have to start to take an official? Pretty sure Philly schools haven't started yet. Maybe this week but still.
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UCLA has A LOT to do with this from what I hear. They are trying to sell both Goodman and Anderson as a package.
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There was talk on 'Nova's Rivals board that Goodman didn't get his way and supposedly, "took his ball and went home," per se'. One particular poster claimed, Goodman is practically being pushed to play for one of the Pac-12 schools.
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From Dave Telep: Savon Goodman no longer committed to Villanova. Now at Constitution. Look for UK, Villa, KU, SJU, Louisville, Texas, UCLA, Zona, maybe more
On the discussion of a Kyle Anderson/Shabazz Mohammad package to UCLA....
Interestingly, Savon Goodman took an "Official" visit (per the UCLA Scout site) at UCLA this weekend - not an unofficial. The Bruins 2012 class has already accepted a verbal from 6'5 SF Jordan Adams (Oak Hill's #2 scorer this past season). As a Bruin fan, I certainly hope the long held belief that SF Shabazz Mohammad is a strong UCLA lean is true, but using one of their officials for a THIRD 2012 SF sure sounds like Ben Howland is hedging his bets. As a Bruin fan I really want Shabazz at UCLA - and Kyle as well! No Shabazz almost assuredly means no Kyle. The timing of this Goodman official concerns me, and should encourange y'all....
How does it work as an official if he plans to drop back to 2013? Do his officials start back to 0 when he reclassifies? Also doesn't the school year have to start to take an official? Pretty sure Philly schools haven't started yet. Maybe this week but still.
He would literally had to have been in school for 1 full day before he is allowed to take officials. If he is in his senior year, even if he plans to take a post grad year, they can be officials. However he does not get 5 additional ones.
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UCLA has A LOT to do with this from what I hear. They are trying to sell both Goodman and Anderson as a package.
As long as it is "sell," not "buy" - lol...
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It wasn't an official visit. School isn't in session....Also he doesn't have the grades
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It wasn't an official visit. School isn't in session....Also he doesn't have the grades
He almost is certainly going to be 2013 which would blow a hole in the package deal stuff specifically Alex Kline tweeting that SHU would be in the mix for that as well since they are "recruiting" Goodman.
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The best case for Seton Hall landing players like Goodman would be if he waited until the season started, AND it became clear that the program was heading in the right direction. On paper it looks like they have 3 BE players.
They could finish behind Depaul this year. We saw what happened to them when they had to carry on w out Hazell.
I see no reason why they would be any better this season especially considering that Robinson and Hazell, their two best players are out.
We'll see though. Kids like to go with the hot hand. Seton Hall would be a dramatic surprise if they made the NIT.
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From the recruit scoop- Since re-opening his recruitment from Villanova, Savon Goodman's HS coach has received calls from Texas, Oregon, UCLA & Louisville.
Doesn't appear that he is a target of ours
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Per scout.com covering the City of Palms:
*Savon Goodman listed Kentucky, Kansas, Villanova, St. John’s, USC, UCLA, Arizona and Memphis as the schools currently showing him interest.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1140625.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1140625.html)
Goodman taking his time
Former Villanova commit Savon Goodman isn’t rushing into a college decision.
In fact, Goodman seems more concerned with making sure he stays on top of his academics than diving back into the recruiting process.
“I’m focused on school and grades,” Goodman said following a loss to Branche (Fla.) Ely at the City of Palms tournament.
Goodman did list Kentucky, Kansas, Villanova, St. John’s, USC, UCLA, Arizona and Memphis as schools that were showing interest.
“I know I want to visit UCLA and Arizona,” he added.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1140652.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1140652.html)
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Is he '12 or '13?
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Per scout.com covering the City of Palms:
*Savon Goodman listed Kentucky, Kansas, Villanova, St. John’s, USC, UCLA, Arizona and Memphis as the schools currently showing him interest.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1140625.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1140625.html)
Goodman taking his time
Former Villanova commit Savon Goodman isn’t rushing into a college decision.
In fact, Goodman seems more concerned with making sure he stays on top of his academics than diving back into the recruiting process.
“I’m focused on school and grades,” Goodman said following a loss to Branche (Fla.) Ely at the City of Palms tournament.
Goodman did list Kentucky, Kansas, Villanova, St. John’s, USC, UCLA, Arizona and Memphis as schools that were showing interest.
“I know I want to visit UCLA and Arizona,” he added.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1140652.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1140652.html)
Goodman and Miller/Arizona would be a fatal collision waiting to happen.
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Per Dave Telep....
Goodman has to resist urge to skip steps
Combo forward Savon Goodman (Philadelphia, Pa./Constitution) will be one of the bigger spring names on the board. There’s a lot of traffic here to see him at the City of Palms. St. John’s and Connecticut were in the stands for his first game on Monday. Goodman said Pittsburgh, UCLA, Temple, the Red Storm and Missouri are tracking him hard.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=621&_slug_=ricardo-gathers-his-thoughts-at-city-of-palms&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fblog%2fdave-telep%2fpost%3fid%3d621%26_slug_%3dricardo-gathers-his-thoughts-at-city-of-palms (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=621&_slug_=ricardo-gathers-his-thoughts-at-city-of-palms&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fblog%2fdave-telep%2fpost%3fid%3d621%26_slug_%3dricardo-gathers-his-thoughts-at-city-of-palms)
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He's a savage but he'll need to prep
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Love his game. Would definitely help get things going in the right direction again if he were to come here/qualify
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With Harkless, Pointer and Garrett the small forward position is the most covered.
And we are recruiting Goodman and Wainright.
Strange.
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With Harkless, Pointer and Garrett the small forward position is the most covered.
And we are recruiting Goodman and Wainright.
Strange.
IMO its nothing to worry about. Harkless will go pro after sophomore season if everything goes at the rate it is now, and good for him. He'll be the next NBA star representing SJU and a great tool for Lavin to sell kids on. Maurice Harkless will be Lavin's poster-boy for sending kids to the NBA.
On the topic of Goodman, he's a beast and we should certainly recruit him. Whether he has top prep or not. Go after the talent, wherever it is. Hopefully we keep pushing for him and he heads to a good prep school if that's his destination. Wainright we're in the home stretch for. Long arms and has a bit of Ron-Ron in him, but a better offensive player and athlete. Love the guys that the staff is involved with. Don't forget' we're also in real good with jermaine Lawrence. Lots to look forward to.
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With Harkless, Pointer and Garrett the small forward position is the most covered.
And we are recruiting Goodman and Wainright.
Strange.
Strange staff was looking at PGs when Nuri, Green, Stith, Harrison were on the roster. Can never be too thin
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With Harkless, Pointer and Garrett the small forward position is the most covered.
And we are recruiting Goodman and Wainright.
Strange.
Strange staff was looking at PGs when Nuri, Green, Stith, Harrison were on the roster. Can never be too thin
What PG's were they looking at besides Sina in '13?
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With Harkless, Pointer and Garrett the small forward position is the most covered.
And we are recruiting Goodman and Wainright.
Strange.
Strange staff was looking at PGs when Nuri, Green, Stith, Harrison were on the roster. Can never be too thin
What PG's were they looking at besides Sina in '13?
Lamont Jones, Ryan Harrow, Jevon Thomas, Katin Reinhart, Dom Artis
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With Harkless, Pointer and Garrett the small forward position is the most covered.
And we are recruiting Goodman and Wainright.
Strange.
Strange staff was looking at PGs when Nuri, Green, Stith, Harrison were on the roster. Can never be too thin
What PG's were they looking at besides Sina in '13?
Lamont Jones, Ryan Harrow, Jevon Thomas, Katin Reinhart, Dom Artis
I thought you meant like NOW
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Rysheed Jordan just told Alex Kline SJU is one of the schools recruiting him the hardest along with Kansas, Kentucky, Nova and others.
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Rysheed Jordan just told Alex Kline SJU is one of the schools recruiting him the hardest along with Kansas, Kentucky, Nova and others.
"hardest" is a termed used a lot. But for those in the know, what does "hardest" really mean? how does it work in the recruiting world?
thanks
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Rysheed Jordan just told Alex Kline SJU is one of the schools recruiting him the hardest along with Kansas, Kentucky, Nova and others.
"hardest" is a termed used a lot. But for those in the know, what does "hardest" really mean? how does it work in the recruiting world?
thanks
I'm assuming on the player the most; showing the most interest; being at the said player(s) games, etc....
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Rysheed Jordan just told Alex Kline SJU is one of the schools recruiting him the hardest along with Kansas, Kentucky, Nova and others.
"hardest" is a termed used a lot. But for those in the know, what does "hardest" really mean? how does it work in the recruiting world?
thanks
Could mean anything or everything. Bottom line we have not been mentioned with him for awhile and news was slow on him so being mentioned now shows we are still very much on his radar. That is important. Kid is a baller.
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Rysheed Jordan just told Alex Kline SJU is one of the schools recruiting him the hardest along with Kansas, Kentucky, Nova and others.
"hardest" is a termed used a lot. But for those in the know, what does "hardest" really mean? how does it work in the recruiting world?
thanks
Could mean anything or everything. Bottom line we have not been mentioned with him for awhile and news was slow on him so being mentioned now shows we are still very much on his radar. That is important. Kid is a baller.
Would be a coup to land him. He's UK level talented and with size too.
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TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 SF Savon Goodman had 46 points & 15 rebounds in a Constitution (PA) win, according to @_KevinDriscoll.
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Another monster game for him...
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 Constitution (PA) teammates Savon Goodman (43 points & 15 rebounds) & Daiquan Walker (32 points & 12 assists) went off tonight.
Whether he is '12 or '13, i'm really starting to hope he comes to Queens
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Another monster game for him...
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 Constitution (PA) teammates Savon Goodman (43 points & 15 rebounds) & Daiquan Walker (32 points & 12 assists) went off tonight.
Whether he is '12 or '13, i'm really starting to hope he comes to Queens
Don't think we are recruiting him at all from what I've heard.
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Another monster game for him...
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 Constitution (PA) teammates Savon Goodman (43 points & 15 rebounds) & Daiquan Walker (32 points & 12 assists) went off tonight.
Whether he is '12 or '13, i'm really starting to hope he comes to Queens
Don't think we are recruiting him at all from what I've heard.
Really? Just a few weeks ago he specifically mentioned us as an option
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Another monster game for him...
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 Constitution (PA) teammates Savon Goodman (43 points & 15 rebounds) & Daiquan Walker (32 points & 12 assists) went off tonight.
Whether he is '12 or '13, i'm really starting to hope he comes to Queens
Don't think we are recruiting him at all from what I've heard.
Really? Just a few weeks ago he specifically mentioned us as an option
Yeah and I asked some pretty in the know people who said that was news to them.
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Another monster game for him...
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 Constitution (PA) teammates Savon Goodman (43 points & 15 rebounds) & Daiquan Walker (32 points & 12 assists) went off tonight.
Whether he is '12 or '13, i'm really starting to hope he comes to Queens
Don't think we are recruiting him at all from what I've heard.
Really? Just a few weeks ago he specifically mentioned us as an option
Yeah and I asked some pretty in the know people who said that was news to them.
Interesting, I hope thats false though really like his game
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Another monster game for him...
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 Constitution (PA) teammates Savon Goodman (43 points & 15 rebounds) & Daiquan Walker (32 points & 12 assists) went off tonight.
Whether he is '12 or '13, i'm really starting to hope he comes to Queens
Don't think we are recruiting him at all from what I've heard.
Really? Just a few weeks ago he specifically mentioned us as an option
Yeah and I asked some pretty in the know people who said that was news to them.
Interesting, I hope thats false though really like his game
Love his game too. But the academic question marks scare me a bit.
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Another monster game for him...
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 Constitution (PA) teammates Savon Goodman (43 points & 15 rebounds) & Daiquan Walker (32 points & 12 assists) went off tonight.
Whether he is '12 or '13, i'm really starting to hope he comes to Queens
Don't think we are recruiting him at all from what I've heard.
Really? Just a few weeks ago he specifically mentioned us as an option
Yeah and I asked some pretty in the know people who said that was news to them.
Interesting, I hope thats false though really like his game
Love his game too. But the academic question marks scare me a bit.
Just means he's a perfect fit for us :)
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Another monster game for him...
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2012 Constitution (PA) teammates Savon Goodman (43 points & 15 rebounds) & Daiquan Walker (32 points & 12 assists) went off tonight.
Whether he is '12 or '13, i'm really starting to hope he comes to Queens
Don't think we are recruiting him at all from what I've heard.
Really? Just a few weeks ago he specifically mentioned us as an option
Yeah and I asked some pretty in the know people who said that was news to them.
Interesting, I hope thats false though really like his game
Love his game too. But the academic question marks scare me a bit.
Just means he's a perfect fit for us :)
Exactly why I'm scared :)
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whats the deal with this kid Dave??
even if hes ineligible its a risk that we should take
Lavin wants 5 more guys (obekpa,gathers,sampson,sheppard,and ....)
itll be hard to get all 5
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Correctamundo!
:'(
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Anyone hear anything on Goodman? I wouldn't be surprised if Lavin pulled him out of the hat. Hopefully his academics are ok.
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Anyone hear anything on Goodman? I wouldn't be surprised if Lavin pulled him out of the hat. Hopefully his academics are ok.
Not sure the accuracy but this lists Mizzou, Temple and UCLA
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/7608132/top-uncommitted-prospects-2012-class (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/7608132/top-uncommitted-prospects-2012-class)
Goodman was once committed to Villanova but we don't expect a return trip to the Wildcats' campus anytime soon. When a player decommits from a place like Villanova, there's always the chance a bridge was burned, and that likely happened here. Goodman has always been consistent in saying he'll make spring trips. The question remains: Will his academics be in order? He has made it clear he would like to visit UCLA out west and we've heard Temple getting involved representing Philadelphia, as well as Missouri.
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Was originally supposed to go to UCLA but things have changed. He'll be Temple bound.
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Was originally supposed to go to UCLA but things have changed. He'll be Temple bound.
'12 or '13?
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Update from ESPN Insider:
There are still questions whether Savon Goodman will be eligible for the 2012-13 season. The wing is a former Villanova commit, but decommitted from the Big East program last offseason. While there were rumors Goodman would reclassify to the 2013 class, Goodman reportedly would make a decision in the spring. However, there has not been much heard from the wing, and according to Scout's Evan Daniels, his list continues to burgeon.
Daniels reports that there are several programs involved with Goodman, including West Virginia, Temple and Arizona. One name caught out eye though -- Gonzaga. We have written that the Bulldogs are interested in Mark McLaughlin, and with their reported interest in Goodman, it's clear Mark Few and his coaching staff are looking to add a wing to their 2012 class.
It will be interesting to see if Goodman gains eligibility for next season. If he doesn't, his recruiting picture will likely change; prep school could be an option, as well as a stint at a junior college. Also, there is the possibility Goodman commits to a non-BCS conference (perhaps Conference USA) and sits out the 2012-13 season as a partial non-qualifier.
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Doubt validity of this, but thought I'd post it.
“@SweetSweetLavin: Around the Recruiting Trail - Savon Goodman http://t.co/UjS1A4bb (http://t.co/UjS1A4bb) #stjbb”
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Doubt validity of this, but thought I'd post it.
“@SweetSweetLavin: Around the Recruiting Trail - Savon Goodman http://t.co/UjS1A4bb (http://t.co/UjS1A4bb) #stjbb”
Yea pretty certain he is no longer a target.
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They just ran a 5 minute piece on him on EPSN's elite24 coverage. Seems like a good kid. Would have fit in well here, but I feel like we already have Savon's in Amir and Dom.
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Supposedly, Rutgers is also hot on his trail
They have a ship open with Biruta transferring out
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We don't need any more threes. It's the one position we are fine at. We need bigs. 3 of them.
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If he qualifies for 2012 there should be an investigation.
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If he qualifies for 2012 there should be an investigation.
If he signs with us there will be.
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Recruit Scoop: 2012 SF Savon Goodman will be visiting Pitt & Missouri over the next few weeks. UCLA is back in the picture & St. John's also called.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/22/savon-goodmans-recruitment-heating-up/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/22/savon-goodmans-recruitment-heating-up/)
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Doubt we are seriously involved here, could be wrong. I also see a Prep year for him.
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Maybe I am wrong, but this kid gives me "Pelle like" feelings, all over the place! Probably enjoying limelight, but not destined to play in 2012.
“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman will also visit Seton Hall http://t.co/3eEJe0U8 (http://t.co/3eEJe0U8) #shbb”
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Maybe I am wrong, but this kid gives me "Pelle like" feelings, all over the place! Probably enjoying limelight, but not destined to play in 2012.
“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman will also visit Seton Hall http://t.co/3eEJe0U8 (http://t.co/3eEJe0U8) #shbb”
Think the only Pelle-like thing is grades. If he had the grades, this would have been over long ago. And it's not just a question of NCAA eligibility. Couple of the schools involved have admissions board standards higher than NCAA minimums, so this might stretch on, at least till all final exams are posted. Maybe even thru summer school....
The changes seem to be that the kid's worked very hard this semester to bring his grades up, and a couple schools thought to be out of the picture due to academics are back in again. Apparently Kyle Anderson's been recruiting him hard for UCLA, but I don't think he can have brought his grades up enuf to get past their admissions board :(
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Was originally supposed to go to UCLA but things have changed. He'll be Temple bound.
This still the word you're hearing Dave?
Or does SJU have a shot at signing him for 2013?
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Maybe I am wrong, but this kid gives me "Pelle like" feelings, all over the place! Probably enjoying limelight, but not destined to play in 2012.
“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman will also visit Seton Hall http://t.co/3eEJe0U8 (http://t.co/3eEJe0U8) #shbb”
Think the only Pelle-like thing is grades. If he had the grades, this would have been over long ago. And it's not just a question of NCAA eligibility. Couple of the schools involved have admissions board standards higher than NCAA minimums, so this might stretch on, at least till all final exams are posted. Maybe even thru summer school....
The changes seem to be that the kid's worked very hard this semester to bring his grades up, and a couple schools thought to be out of the picture due to academics are back in again. Apparently Kyle Anderson's been recruiting him hard for UCLA, but I don't think he can have brought his grades up enuf to get past their admissions board :(
Bingo. And I agree with Paultzman, I still think he preps and reclassifies to 2013.
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Maybe I am wrong, but this kid gives me "Pelle like" feelings, all over the place! Probably enjoying limelight, but not destined to play in 2012.
“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman will also visit Seton Hall http://t.co/3eEJe0U8 (http://t.co/3eEJe0U8) #shbb”
Think the only Pelle-like thing is grades. If he had the grades, this would have been over long ago. And it's not just a question of NCAA eligibility. Couple of the schools involved have admissions board standards higher than NCAA minimums, so this might stretch on, at least till all final exams are posted. Maybe even thru summer school....
The changes seem to be that the kid's worked very hard this semester to bring his grades up, and a couple schools thought to be out of the picture due to academics are back in again. Apparently Kyle Anderson's been recruiting him hard for UCLA, but I don't think he can have brought his grades up enuf to get past their admissions board :(
Bingo. And I agree with Paultzman, I still think he preps and reclassifies to 2013.
FYI that would put UCLA out of the picture for next year. Their admissions board doesn't accept 5th year seniors or 5th year prep school guys, UNLESS they were originally fully qualified after 4 years of high school. Don't have the grades out of high school for UCLA, you have to go the JC route.
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According to Zags, Goodman HAS qualified so he would be able to go to UCLA after a year of prep.
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According to Zags, Goodman HAS qualified so he would be able to go to UCLA after a year of prep.
Again, that's UCLA Board of Admissions "qualified", not simply "NBA qualifie". From the discussion on the Bruin boards (hey, if you can't get facts from a fan forum...) there's no way he should be able to get UCLA qualified in time. But stranger things have happened. In the past players have gotten their grades in order with one year at a JC, not playing ball that year to keep all 4 years eligibility. The difference for these kids is only 4 years to play 4 in stead of 5. That's how Steve got 7'0 260 Mike Fey into UCLA in 2002-03. He was actually part of the 2001 recruiting class. Went to JC, got the classes and grades he needed, then enrolled. Did hurt him tho - he could have used a redshirt year - they had Ryan Hollins who was actually IN the 2002 class so both started eligibility as frosh together - so they certainly COULD have. had that option been available. The opportunity to redshirt Fey as a soph or Jr. might have meant a title in 2007 - An extra big to match up with Florida's front line in the 2007 final four....Mike has never made the NBA, but he's been a 15pt 7reb guy in a couple of stints in the D-League. He's twice been the final cut by the Lakers from their preseason roster.
Before those certain someone's rip me for this off topic info - there reason for posting it is, this is the kind of creative way YOUR head coach gets players qualified and into the program. WITHIN THE RULES.
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
Marillac, can he shoot? I've heard about the athleticism and his motor, but never seen him play. Does Savon have a mid-range game? What about Bbhind the arc?
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
Marillac, can he shoot? I've heard about the athleticism and his motor, but never seen him play. Does Savon have a mid-range game? What about Bbhind the arc?
He can shoot if you look at some YouTube videos.
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
Marillac, can he shoot? I've heard about the athleticism and his motor, but never seen him play. Does Savon have a mid-range game? What about Bbhind the arc?
Haven't seen enough of him to comment on his shooting. He doesn't have "pure" form on his shot from what I have seen, but most kids don't. It seems like he can put the ball in the net at a decent clip. It's his motor and tenacity that jump out at you...like "damn, this kid can compete with anyone." Nobody's starting job would be safe if this kid was added to the roster.
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
Marillac, can he shoot? I've heard about the athleticism and his motor, but never seen him play. Does Savon have a mid-range game? What about Bbhind the arc?
He can shoot if you look at some YouTube videos.
No offense Moose but as a friend of mine once said to me-everyone looks good in highlight reels. A player can shoot 1 for 10 every game and if they just show the ones he made he will look good.
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
Marillac, can he shoot? I've heard about the athleticism and his motor, but never seen him play. Does Savon have a mid-range game? What about Bbhind the arc?
He can shoot if you look at some YouTube videos.
No offense Moose but as a friend of mine once said to me-everyone looks good in highlight reels. A player can shoot 1 for 10 every game and if they just show the ones he made he will look good.
When Harrison shoots, and Phil Greene shoots from the outside do you feel more comfortable with one versus the other?
Goodman has a surprisingly soft shot when you consider the brute force he displays down low.
I've seen him play in person. But that can't help the poster who asked. So I was referring him to YouTube which is the most help that can be offered right now.
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
I'm definately not against adding him, (but better if he preps, signed in fall & came in '13 ?)
BUT isn't it great that we're in a position to discuss whether we need a top 60 recruit.
With Dom, Amir & Marco @ the 3 we're in fine shape
Thank you Coach Lavin & staff !
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A Zags article from a few days prior to STJ mention had his coach talking about waiting to see what Amile and Bennett do. Makes me think he's shooting for something high like Kentucky or something.
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
Marillac, can he shoot? I've heard about the athleticism and his motor, but never seen him play. Does Savon have a mid-range game? What about Bbhind the arc?
He can shoot if you look at some YouTube videos.
No offense Moose but as a friend of mine once said to me-everyone looks good in highlight reels. A player can shoot 1 for 10 every game and if they just show the ones he made he will look good.
When Harrison shoots, and Phil Greene shoots from the outside do you feel more comfortable with one versus the other?
Goodman has a surprisingly soft shot when you consider the brute force he displays down low.
I've seen him play in person. But that can't help the poster who asked. So I was referring him to YouTube which is the most help that can be offered right now.
Wasn't offering an opinion one way or the other just saying highlight reels can be deceptive. And BTW feel more confident when D'Lo is shooting.
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Goodman is an animal. If he is in fact qualified, I can't believe anyone would be against adding him.
Marillac, can he shoot? I've heard about the athleticism and his motor, but never seen him play. Does Savon have a mid-range game? What about Bbhind the arc?
He can shoot if you look at some YouTube videos.
No offense Moose but as a friend of mine once said to me-everyone looks good in highlight reels. A player can shoot 1 for 10 every game and if they just show the ones he made he will look good.
When Harrison shoots, and Phil Greene shoots from the outside do you feel more comfortable with one versus the other?
Goodman has a surprisingly soft shot when you consider the brute force he displays down low.
I've seen him play in person. But that can't help the poster who asked. So I was referring him to YouTube which is the most help that can be offered right now.
Wasn't offering an opinion one way or the other just saying highlight reels can be deceptive. And BTW feel more confident when D'Lo is shooting.
I'd hope you feel more confident with Harrison :)
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With hooper on board now is goodman realistic? Still in the running for turner?
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“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman will visit Seton Hall Sunday or early next week, Rob Moore tells @SNYtv. Also planning a Pitt visit soon.”
Kid makes the rounds! Can play, but Villanova may be relieved they are not in the hunt.
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Says he plans to visit St. John's in two weeks.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/18810520/savon-goodman-still-weighing-his-options (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/18810520/savon-goodman-still-weighing-his-options)
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Nice
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Wow, lot of interesting visits these next two weeks. Wood, Nolan, now Goodman. All players that could be either 2012 or 2013 depending on how things shake out.
Loads of talent visiting Union and Utopia. Can't complain about that
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Wow, lot of interesting visits these next two weeks. Wood, Nolan, now Goodman. All players that could be either 2012 or 2013 depending on how things shake out.
Loads of talent visiting Union and Utopia. Can't complain about that
only one problem were running out of ships!
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funny how zags said one thing and that last article says another
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@AdamZagoria St. John's hasn't made any contact with @SavonGoodman5 to set up a visit, per Rob Moore. Just SHU visit set now, working on Pittsburgh. 48 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite
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Savon has always made it seem like St Johns is involved but I don't think it's true
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Borzello, who I respect, now saying Goodman wants to visit SJU. Choosing not Savon's
“@jeffborzello: Savor Goodman still weighing his options: http://t.co/L7yy6puj (http://t.co/L7yy6puj) Might reclassify to 2013, might not. Said he wants to visit St. John's.”
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Some mixed messages here...
You would think Tony would be familiar with Savon and his coaches, and if he wanted to visit it would be a no-brainer.
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IMO, staff knows Savon will be a 2013 recruit and is not really targeting him. They have a plan and are sticking to it. Josiah's appearance probably was a pleasant surprise & an opportunity worth pursuing. Again, IMo, Savon is all over the place and not worth getting distracted from game plan. Kid can play, but sometimes the greater good is more important.
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Wonder if SJU saying the same thing?
“@DanielJMartin_: Philly native Savon Goodman, who is still sitting out with a knee sprain, says he will visit St. John's in two weeks. #STJbb #HGJamfest”
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Wonder if SJU saying the same thing?
“@DanielJMartin_: Philly native Savon Goodman, who is still sitting out with a knee sprain, says he will visit St. John's in two weeks. #STJbb #HGJamfest”
Told no one at SJU is aware of this interest. Of course that could change.
BTW-I know he says otherwise but I still hear his grades are a mess and cannot believe he will make it thru the NCAA Eligibility Center.
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I agree with you Fordham, a 2013 recruit at best! He has good self promotion skills for sure!
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Seems like he's one of those kids that needs a prep year ... and then does two years of juco anyway. Worked for Dwight.
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Seems like he's one of those kids that needs a prep year ... and then does two years of juco anyway. Worked for Dwight.
Ya me moved back to 7th grade, making his confirmation with Jevon Thomas
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Seems like he's one of those kids that needs a prep year ... and then does two years of juco anyway. Worked for Dwight.
Ya me moved back to 7th grade, making his confirmation with Jevon Thomas
Can you repeat that in English, Baldi? ;D
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Seems like he's one of those kids that needs a prep year ... and then does two years of juco anyway. Worked for Dwight.
Ya me moved back to 7th grade, making his confirmation with Jevon Thomas
Can you repeat that in English, Baldi? ;D
It took me a minute to figure out he was only one letter off, at which point I thought it was pretty damn funny. Mean, but funny.
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Iona would die for this guy to show interest....with the schools he is showing interest in...even the "great" Grasso wouldn't stand a chance....
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“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman will take an unofficial to Seton Hall tomorrow, per Rob Moore. Story coming soon. #Shbb”
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“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman will take an unofficial to Seton Hall tomorrow, per Rob Moore. Story coming soon. #Shbb”
Unofficial because he probably doesn't have the grades. (Hope I'm not getting too personal :) )
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The saga continues.
“@AdamZagoria: Turns out Savon Goodman visits Seton Hall Friday, not today. Some confusion on the days. Also Larry Brown has called Rob Moore on Savon.”
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The saga continues.
“@AdamZagoria: Turns out Savon Goodman visits Seton Hall Friday, not today. Some confusion on the days. Also Larry Brown has called Rob Moore on Savon.”
Honestly it would not shock me if it turns out SHU does not even know he is planning on visiting.
And SMU actually makes sense for him.
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From today's recruiting report on scout.com:
There is talk out there of Savon Goodman wanting to set up a visit to Missouri and that potentially could happen. Goodman is still wanting to be recruited as a member of the 2012 class, and that is why he continues to talk with Temple and other schools. However all sources are indicating he won’t qualify and will be in the 2013 class. In fact Goodman has already contacted prep schools inquiring about attending their school and then going to college in 2013.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=75&f=1043 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=75&f=1043)
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The saga continues.
“@AdamZagoria: Turns out Savon Goodman visits Seton Hall Friday, not today. Some confusion on the days. Also Larry Brown has called Rob Moore on Savon.”
Honestly it would not shock me if it turns out SHU does not even know he is planning on visiting.
And SMU actually makes sense for him.
Why? I believe this is the second time you've mentioned Goodman possibly making up a school recruiting him. The kid is a legit player, and wel above what SH could reasonably expect to land on a regular basis at this point.
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Just read that he will prep at Brewster next year.. Not sure how accurate it is because nobody else is reporting it.
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The saga continues.
“@AdamZagoria: Turns out Savon Goodman visits Seton Hall Friday, not today. Some confusion on the days. Also Larry Brown has called Rob Moore on Savon.”
Honestly it would not shock me if it turns out SHU does not even know he is planning on visiting.
And SMU actually makes sense for him.
Why? I believe this is the second time you've mentioned Goodman possibly making up a school recruiting him. The kid is a legit player, and wel above what SH could reasonably expect to land on a regular basis at this point.
First off we know for a fact he is mentioning SJU when our staff has no idea he has scheduled this mythical visit. Secondly it was the second time his visit had been rescheduled to SHU and so I was speculating. Third I am not even sure he visited them last Friday to be honest.
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Just read that he will prep at Brewster next year.. Not sure how accurate it is because nobody else is reporting it.
Makes sense. Don't think he visited SH this weekend
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Just read that he will prep at Brewster next year.. Not sure how accurate it is because nobody else is reporting it.
same source?
“@NationBTalent: Sources saying Savon Goodman, a 2012 forward of New RENs (NYC) will be attending Brewster Academy next year.”
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BTW-I know he says otherwise but I still hear his grades are a mess and cannot believe he will make it thru the NCAA Eligibility Center.
Fordham - Not trying to stir up or re-start something but what is the major difference between you saying a kids grades are a mess and he will not be cleared and me saying that a kid is 9 core classes short. The verbage might be different but you said pretty much the same exact thing I did.
Let me say - I don't think there is anything wrong with what you said either but I got assualted for saying Wood has no chance at getting eligible.
Also - since I know you think I am really a SHU fan, I can tell you for sure that Goodman did visit SHU last week. I also know who Pitino interviewed for the spot he had from Richard leaving for FIU, does that make me a Louisville fan too.
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Just read that he will prep at Brewster next year.. Not sure how accurate it is because nobody else is reporting it.
Him and Jason Smith are perfect for eachother.
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BTW-I know he says otherwise but I still hear his grades are a mess and cannot believe he will make it thru the NCAA Eligibility Center.
Fordham - Not trying to stir up or re-start something but what is the major difference between you saying a kids grades are a mess and he will not be cleared and me saying that a kid is 9 core classes short. The verbage might be different but you said pretty much the same exact thing I did.
Let me say - I don't think there is anything wrong with what you said either but I got assualted for saying Wood has no chance at getting eligible.
Also - since I know you think I am really a SHU fan, I can tell you for sure that Goodman did visit SHU last week. I also know who Pitino interviewed for the spot he had from Richard leaving for FIU, does that make me a Louisville fan too.
First off you are aware of the famous Shakespeare quote, "Me thinks you doth protest too much..."
And again I see a huge difference in speaking in generalities and then speaking about specific core courses.
Goodbye.
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Just read that he will prep at Brewster next year.. Not sure how accurate it is because nobody else is reporting it.
Him and Jason Smith are perfect for eachother.
LOl! Imagine if Ledo did not qualify and also ended up there!
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And again I see a huge difference in speaking in generalities and then speaking about specific core courses.
So its ok for you to take a shot a kid in "generalities" but its not ok for me to point to something specific as being wrong. I never said Wood was failing or his grades were a mess, I just said he had the wrong core classes or needed different ones.
Talk about being a hypocrite, this one actually made me laugh. Thanks for bringing a little laughter to my day.
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“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman Visits Pitt http://t.co/HMcDxAdx (http://t.co/HMcDxAdx)”
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Just read that he will prep at Brewster next year.. Not sure how accurate it is because nobody else is reporting it.
Him and Jason Smith are perfect for eachother.
LOl! Imagine if Ledo did not qualify and also ended up there!
Smith is too smart to touch Ledo.
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Saga continues!
“@AdamZagoria: Savon Goodman to Visit SMU Sunday http://t.co/mOi11YxP (http://t.co/mOi11YxP)”
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The intergalactic tour continues!
“@TheRecruitScoop: Following an official visit to SMU, 2012 Constitution (PA) SF Savon Goodman will take an official visit to UNLV this weekend.”
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The intergalactic tour continues!
“@TheRecruitScoop: Following an official visit to SMU, 2012 Constitution (PA) SF Savon Goodman will take an official visit to UNLV this weekend.”
UNLV must have petitioned for 20 ships and must have been approved. LOL
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This recruitment is Episode 3 of a multi season soap opera.
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“@ryanmgreene: BREAKING: Savon Goodman has committed to #UNLV”
“@ryanmgreene: #UNLV told Goodman straight-up that if Roscoe Smith's eligibility waiver cleared, he'd redshirt next season. Still committed to Rice & Co.”
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“@ryanmgreene: BREAKING: Savon Goodman has committed to #UNLV”
“@ryanmgreene: #UNLV told Goodman straight-up that if Roscoe Smith's eligibility waiver cleared, he'd redshirt next season. Still committed to Rice & Co.”
UNLV is killing it. Vegas is back!
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“@ryanmgreene: BREAKING: Savon Goodman has committed to #UNLV”
“@ryanmgreene: #UNLV told Goodman straight-up that if Roscoe Smith's eligibility waiver cleared, he'd redshirt next season. Still committed to Rice & Co.”
UNLV is killing it. Vegas is back!
Agree! Rice is something else!
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“@ryanmgreene: BREAKING: Savon Goodman has committed to #UNLV”
“@ryanmgreene: #UNLV told Goodman straight-up that if Roscoe Smith's eligibility waiver cleared, he'd redshirt next season. Still committed to Rice & Co.”
They insists he is qualified. I'll believe it when I see it.
I have a sneaky suspicion that UNLV/Mountain West takes non-qualifiers and Roscoe Smith might be a convenient excuse for him not to be able to play next year anyway.
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“@ryanmgreene: BREAKING: Savon Goodman has committed to #UNLV”
“@ryanmgreene: #UNLV told Goodman straight-up that if Roscoe Smith's eligibility waiver cleared, he'd redshirt next season. Still committed to Rice & Co.”
They insists he is qualified. I'll believe it when I see it.
I have a sneaky suspicion that UNLV/Mountain West takes non-qualifiers and Roscoe Smith might be a convenient excuse for him not to be able to play next year anyway.
Can someone explain what the whole partial,non-qualifier thing is?
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UNLV is building something special. I dont know what they have coming back but Khem Birch & Anthony Bennet as bigs, Katin Reinhardt coming in as a guard and Savon on the wing. If we didn't have as many holes to fill as we did I would of loved to get Goodman.
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UNLV is building something special. I dont know what they have coming back but Khem Birch & Anthony Bennet as bigs, Katin Reinhardt coming in as a guard and Savon on the wing. If we didn't have as many holes to fill as we did I would of loved to get Goodman.
I cant wait to see Reinhardt
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UNLV is building something special. I dont know what they have coming back but Khem Birch & Anthony Bennet as bigs, Katin Reinhardt coming in as a guard and Savon on the wing. If we didn't have as many holes to fill as we did I would of loved to get Goodman.
I cant wait to see Reinhardt
So good unfortunate that it was too late for us to get him
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“@ryanmgreene: BREAKING: Savon Goodman has committed to #UNLV”
“@ryanmgreene: #UNLV told Goodman straight-up that if Roscoe Smith's eligibility waiver cleared, he'd redshirt next season. Still committed to Rice & Co.”
They insists he is qualified. I'll believe it when I see it.
I have a sneaky suspicion that UNLV/Mountain West takes non-qualifiers and Roscoe Smith might be a convenient excuse for him not to be able to play next year anyway.
Can someone explain what the whole partial,non-qualifier thing is?
Same thing as the old prop 48. Admissable by the college standards but not eligible by the NCAA standards. Even in the BE you used to be able to sit a year and then earn back your fourth year by graduating on time a la Anthony Glover but BE, ACC and a few others no longer accept those kids. UNLV's conference does.
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PS I don't see any reason Roscoe Smith should be eligible. Rule states, a la Oriakhi, that the school must be ineligible for post season play for the remainder of your eligibililty in order to be able to transfer without traditional transfer penalties. UConn's ineligible for one year, Oriakhi has one year left he can play. Roscoe hasa two year's left, he can't. Roscoe's from Baltimore so it's not a sick mother. He should have to sit a year.
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UCONN obviously very concerned if waiver granted, since it makes them vulnerable to another transfer. I agree that the request won't be granted. It would create further chaos.
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The BE got rid of partial qualifier as a way to slowly destroy the conference.
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Technically there is no such thing as a partial qualifier anymore.
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He get hurt? Minutes have stopped since New Years
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/61904/savon-goodman (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/gamelog/_/id/61904/savon-goodman)
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Never dull at UNLV lately;
“@TaylorBern: "Regardless of the resolution, Savon will not play for us this season." Rice on Savon Goodman. More to follow.”
“@TheLoboLair: If this is the correct Savon Goodman, that's rough for UNLV. Alleged with 2 felonies and one misdemeanor. Dang,hurts http://twitter.com/TheLoboLair/status/371404287529607168/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/TheLoboLair/status/371404287529607168/photo/1)”
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Never dull at UNLV lately;
“@TaylorBern: "Regardless of the resolution, Savon will not play for us this season." Rice on Savon Goodman. More to follow.”
But we should have got him according to some. It was a big miss!