6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: paultzman on April 23, 2014, 08:27:47 AM
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@JonRothstein: St. John's will host both Saint Mary's + Long Beach State next yr + also play Tulane at the Barclays Center, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
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Like them all, Tulane returns their two leading scorers, two leading assist men, and two leading rebounders. St marys is always a good squad and returns their best player. Long beach returns their 4 best players which include two pretty solid transfers and a couple kids from the NYC area. Schedule is shaping up nicely.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/4/23/5643304/st-johns-mens-basektball-schedule-2014-15-challenging-saint-mary-duke-long-beach-tulane (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/4/23/5643304/st-johns-mens-basektball-schedule-2014-15-challenging-saint-mary-duke-long-beach-tulane)
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Sorry, meant to post thread in Jungle section. Please move.
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This info is bloody lovely. Cheers mate.
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The St. Mary's game is interesting. I assume it is a return game from Lavin's first year when they played St. Mary's during the opening night ESPN marathon (that game was on at like 1 AM NY time).
The other thing is does that game get played at MSG? St. Mary's certainly warrants it with their consistent play over the last 10 years or so but I'm not sure if they have a fan base in the area or that will travel.
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The St. Mary's game is interesting. I assume it is a return game from Lavin's first year when they played St. Mary's during the opening night ESPN marathon (that game was on at like 1 AM NY time).
The other thing is does that game get played at MSG? St. Mary's certainly warrants it with their consistent play over the last 10 years or so but I'm not sure if they have a fan base in the area or that will travel.
I'd have to think the game will be in Queens.
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Tulane game at Barclay will be a graveyard.
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One of the biggest scheduling mistakes last year was not having any true road games before conference play started. I think it hurt the team out of the gate in BE play.
Hopefully its a mistake they dont repeat
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Tulane game at Barclay will be a graveyard.
penn state game I sat 1st row exactly center court. I will be at the same place this game. Atleast they have beer and comfortable seats.
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One of the biggest scheduling mistakes last year was not having any true road games before conference play started. I think it hurt the team out of the gate in BE play.
Hopefully its a mistake they dont repeat
Well Syracuse is on our schedule so that's a true road game.
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Tulane game at Barclay will be a graveyard.
On somewhat related note, Ed Manetta now Director of Sports Programming (College BBall, Boxing and High School) at Barclays...Told him he better not try to kill the BET
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@LBST 2015 will most definitely either be on the way or returning from Maui. Too many miles, too much in expenses to think otherwise.
One thing that always jumps out to me in OOC scheduling is finding out which coaches are actually friendly and respect one another enough to matchup. Randy Bennett, Dan Monson, Bo Ryan, great basketball minds. I like the company Lavs keeps.
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One thing that always jumps out to me in OOC scheduling is finding out which coaches are actually friendly and respect one another enough to matchup. Randy Bennett, Dan Monson, Bo Ryan, great basketball minds. I like the company Lavs keeps.
Like Shemp among the geniuses who are the real Three Stooges.
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Having the chance to beat Cuse and Zags in the same year is defiantly something to get excited about. Cuse has been torturing us for years and the Zags have crushed our NCAA dreams (especially when we were #2 in 2000)...Let's get our shite together this year and make it a great year!
Credit to Lavin for learning his mistakes from last year and challenging his team for this year.
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One of the biggest scheduling mistakes last year was not having any true road games before conference play started. I think it hurt the team out of the gate in BE play.
Hopefully its a mistake they dont repeat
Well Syracuse is on our schedule so that's a true road game.
Yea, but there are so many kids from NY who go to SU, won't that really be like a home game for us?
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24538398/observations-jahlil-okafor-best-college-big-man-since-tim-duncan (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24538398/observations-jahlil-okafor-best-college-big-man-since-tim-duncan)
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24538398/observations-jahlil-okafor-best-college-big-man-since-tim-duncan (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24538398/observations-jahlil-okafor-best-college-big-man-since-tim-duncan)
"The Red Storm have been a different team over the past two years when the 6-5 Pointer (5.9 points, 3.2 rebounds last season) has played expanded minutes at power forward and he should now have that type of opportunity next season with the departure of JaKarr Sampson, who left St. John's early for the NBA." Is this true? Anyone know the +/- with dom at the 4?
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24538398/observations-jahlil-okafor-best-college-big-man-since-tim-duncan (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24538398/observations-jahlil-okafor-best-college-big-man-since-tim-duncan)
Wasnt that supposed to be greg oden?
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No need to get there early. Sheesh!
@JonRothstein: Fordham/LIU + St. John's/Tulane will be a double header at the Barclays Center on 12/28/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
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No need to get there early. Sheesh!
@JonRothstein: Fordham/LIU + St. John's/Tulane will be a double header at the Barclays Center on 12/28/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
Are you kidding me? I will be there, 2 games for the price of one!!! Ha...
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No need to get there early. Sheesh!
@JonRothstein: Fordham/LIU + St. John's/Tulane will be a double header at the Barclays Center on 12/28/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
Makes no sense. Dont think it would be to hard to find to decent teams with some fans to play in NYC during Christmas time. I dont think every team in the Big ten would say no. Think UCONN would come or maybe Maryland.
Are you kidding me? I will be there, 2 games for the price of one!!! Ha...
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Hahah. How much does barclays lose on that double header? At least if those bad barclays games were part of the season ticket plan some people might go, but they just continue to schedule terrible games there
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What a stinker of a holiday doubleheader. This is like some of those weak ECAC Holiday matchups plus Tulane.
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It's almost as if we are trying to draw as poorly as possible in the Barclays Center. How many season ticket holders will pay for this (assuming it is not part of the season package)? I predict <4000 fans show up
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What are you going to do? You are not going to do much better.
SJU feature games are still going to be at MSG and the lesser type games are going to be at Carnesecca.
So they want to play 1 or two games at Barclay’s every year so what do you expect? Duke?
The Holiday Festival at MSG recently hasn’t exactly been the Maui Invitational. Last year LaSalle/Stony Brook and SJU/Fordham.
Bottom line is if SJU is off to a good start and looks legit and maybe throw in a decent Tulane team and maybe Fordham gets off to a decent start you could have a decent crowd.
No one is expecting 16K or so either way.
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Don't play there at all if you can't schedule a half decent opponent. The story will be how bad sju fans are at supporting their team - not all exposure is "good" exposure. I went last year to the Georgia Tech game. There were maybe 2500 fans there; it was noticeably quiet
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Don't play there at all if you can't schedule a half decent opponent. The story will be how bad sju fans are at supporting their team - not all exposure is "good" exposure. I went last year to the Georgia Tech game. There were maybe 2500 fans there; it was noticeably quiet
Well then that is different. But they should go there imho and the hope is that you get 2 or 3 good local teams playing well and draw decent.
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Why not play some games there. Looking to the future Barclays will eventually get some early round NCAA games, hopefully with us playing. Beside some of us Brooklyn Center alums enjoy the venue and the neighborhood where we spent our SJU years.
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Don't play there at all if you can't schedule a half decent opponent. The story will be how bad sju fans are at supporting their team - not all exposure is "good" exposure. I went last year to the Georgia Tech game. There were maybe 2500 fans there; it was noticeably quiet
Well then that is different. But they should go there imho and the hope is that you get 2 or 3 good local teams playing well and draw decent.
Was there last year and was disappointed by attendance. Venue is not bad and there are great places to eat and drink after/before the game. Power teams would improve numbers as West Va. vs. Mich. This should be an all NYC triple or quadruple header representing each of the boro's with SJU, FU, MC, ST. Francis, LIU and Wagner (and if 4 games bring in 2 div 3 teams like NYU and St. Joe's or a CUNY team)
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I'm going to the Tulane game.
I've been to countless games at Alumni and the Garden. I've been to 2 at Barclay's. What's wrong with something new and fresh? Wish I could have that in my love life.
The Penn State game was fun last year up until the brutal outcome. Don't see how the program is harmed any by playing to 3k at Barclays as opposed to 3.5k at Alumni or 4.5k at Msg?
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I'm going to the Tulane game.
I've been to countless games at Alumni and the Garden. I've been to 2 at Barclay's. What's wrong with something new and fresh? Wish I could have that in my love life.
The Penn State game was fun last year up until the brutal outcome. Don't see how the program is harmed any by playing to 3k at Barclays as opposed to 3.5k at Alumni or 4.5k at Msg?
3K at Barclays and 4.5K at MSG are both bad looks. If this team can't confidently bank on a draw of 5K+, have the game at CA, play it on the road, or don't play it at all. I'd rather have a 1-2 fewer games at MSG or Barclays than have 1-2 games where the story is "this building is empty - sju is irrelevant." Tulane game at Barclays Center outside of the season ticket package makes it a lock for less than 5K... unless SJU is ranked at that time.
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Tulane? Really?
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What's Iona's OOC schedule looking like so far?
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What's Iona's OOC schedule looking like so far?
Guarantee you won't see St Johns on it
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Is it Because we're scared or is it because we already have Duke and Syracuse scheduled? Or maybe jayZ thinks that Hofstras a better draw than Iona. What's your take?
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Is it Because we're scared or is it because we already have Duke and Syracuse scheduled? Or maybe jayZ thinks that Hofstras a better draw than Iona. What's your take?
Scared
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Sounds about right. :2funny:
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write a letter to Monasch
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What's Iona's OOC schedule looking like so far?
Guarantee you won't see St Johns on it
You're right...Why should we? Doesn't make sense...Nothing in it for us...Everything in it for Iona...It's a Super Bowl for them...Would you do a deal like that in your business?
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What's Iona's OOC schedule looking like so far?
Guarantee you won't see St Johns on it
You're right...Why should we? Doesn't make sense...Nothing in it for us...Everything in it for Iona...It's a Super Bowl for them...Would you do a deal like that in your business?
Actually this might hurt Iona's RPI
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What's Iona's OOC schedule looking like so far?
Guarantee you won't see St Johns on it
I guess St. John's does something right after all. No need to play that shiitty program.
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What's Iona's OOC schedule looking like so far?
Guarantee you won't see St Johns on it
I guess St. John's does something right after all. No need to play that shiitty program.
Yes, we should stick to quality competition like powerhouses Fordham, Wagner and Columbia
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What's Iona's OOC schedule looking like so far?
Guarantee you won't see St Johns on it
You're right...Why should we? Doesn't make sense...Nothing in it for us...Everything in it for Iona...It's a Super Bowl for them...Would you do a deal like that in your business?
Actually this might hurt Iona's RPI
OK..so again...in you're business do you do deals that make more sense for the other party?
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I'm going to the Tulane game.
I've been to countless games at Alumni and the Garden. I've been to 2 at Barclay's. What's wrong with something new and fresh? Wish I could have that in my love life.
The Penn State game was fun last year up until the brutal outcome. Don't see how the program is harmed any by playing to 3k at Barclays as opposed to 3.5k at Alumni or 4.5k at Msg?
3K at Barclays and 4.5K at MSG are both bad looks. If this team can't confidently bank on a draw of 5K+, have the game at CA, play it on the road, or don't play it at all. I'd rather have a 1-2 fewer games at MSG or Barclays than have 1-2 games where the story is "this building is empty - sju is irrelevant." Tulane game at Barclays Center outside of the season ticket package makes it a lock for less than 5K... unless SJU is ranked at that time.
It's already been determined on this board that we need to play at Msg for recruiting purposes. And now that we've added the A-10 and tanked another season, there's many games where we "can't confidently bank on a draw of 5k+" before we even begin to look at out of conference matchups against non-sexy conferences.
So empty houses at Barclays and Msg are going nowhere fast. We might as well sit back, relax and enjoy a game in a venue that's isn't dry. It does help ease the pain. That's that.
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I went to the triple header against St Francis Brooklyn in 2012 before I was a season ticket holder. I like the Barclays, a tad harder to get to than the easy MSG from Queens but I enjoyed the experience. But as a season ticket holder now no way am I going to Barclays unless it's in the package, which it won't be.
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u could get a ticket and sit anywhere for like 10/15 bucks
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u could get a ticket and sit anywhere for like 10/15 bucks
When you're spending $300+ on 20 games already it's nice to just sit back and watch on TV....or radio.
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@whitebluereview: More games added to the @BIGEASTMBB non-conference schedules for 2014-15. See what's there so far: http://t.co/tKbD35lzJp (http://t.co/tKbD35lzJp)
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I wish they would play a destination game/tourney every year. It would be even nice to schedule a game at Mohegan Sun or Boardwalk Hall in AC.
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@whitebluereview: More games added to the @BIGEASTMBB non-conference schedules for 2014-15. See what's there so far: http://t.co/tKbD35lzJp (http://t.co/tKbD35lzJp)
I hate Nova agreeing to play Excuse at MSG in 15-16. Nova is allowing Excuse to throw it in our face
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@whitebluereview: More games added to the @BIGEASTMBB non-conference schedules for 2014-15. See what's there so far: http://t.co/tKbD35lzJp (http://t.co/tKbD35lzJp)
I hate Nova agreeing to play Excuse at MSG in 15-16. Nova is allowing Excuse to throw it in our face
I guess that means our series with Cuse won't be continuing after this year.
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If we are not playing Cuse. We should call up UCONN. They will come. Playing UCONN at a packed house wont be embrassing. Playing Tulane in front of 300 will.
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If we are not playing Cuse. We should call up UCONN. They will come. Playing UCONN at a packed house wont be embrassing. Playing Tulane in front of 300 will.
Playing UConn in a packed house with 85% UConn fans is just as embarrassing if you ask me.
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As long as we are solid it won't be in front of 85% UCONN fans
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As long as we are solid it won't be in front of 85% UCONN fans
They have better fans than we do. We were solid this year, and in a our biggest game in years against Xavier, St.John's students and alumni showed what they were really made of, yet again. Very little.
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As long as we are solid it won't be in front of 85% UCONN fans
They have better fans than we do. We were solid this year, and in a our biggest game in years against Xavier, St.John's students and alumni showed what they were really made of, yet again. Very little.
If we played UCONN it would not and has never been 85% UCONN. To say so is just false. Xavier was a big game. Wasnt a big crowd. The crowd was into the game. It was 100% sju. 8:00 on a sunday night against a non rival is not going to bring the fans in.
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As long as we are solid it won't be in front of 85% UCONN fans
They have better fans than we do. We were solid this year, and in a our biggest game in years against Xavier, St.John's students and alumni showed what they were really made of, yet again. Very little.
If we played UCONN it would not and has never been 85% UCONN. To say so is just false. Xavier was a big game. Wasnt a big crowd. The crowd was into the game. It was 100% sju. 8:00 on a sunday night against a non rival is not going to bring the fans in.
Xavier game was at 7 on a Tuesday.
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As long as we are solid it won't be in front of 85% UCONN fans
They have better fans than we do. We were solid this year, and in a our biggest game in years against Xavier, St.John's students and alumni showed what they were really made of, yet again. Very little.
If we played UCONN it would not and has never been 85% UCONN. To say so is just false. Xavier was a big game. Wasnt a big crowd. The crowd was into the game. It was 100% sju. 8:00 on a sunday night against a non rival is not going to bring the fans in.
Xavier game was at 7 on a Tuesday.
That's the kind of sissy attitude that defines STJ fans. In the city that never sleeps, STJ students makes sure they get theirs. The ad is right, "St.John's students are different". They certainly are different.
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As long as we are solid it won't be in front of 85% UCONN fans
They have better fans than we do. We were solid this year, and in a our biggest game in years against Xavier, St.John's students and alumni showed what they were really made of, yet again. Very little.
If we played UCONN it would not and has never been 85% UCONN. To say so is just false. Xavier was a big game. Wasnt a big crowd. The crowd was into the game. It was 100% sju. 8:00 on a sunday night against a non rival is not going to bring the fans in.
Xavier game was at 7 on a Tuesday.
That's the kind of sissy attitude that defines STJ fans. In the city that never sleeps, STJ students makes sure they get theirs. The ad is right, "St.John's students are different". They certainly are different.
The players didn't show up for the Xavier game either.
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I feel stupid that I have to stick up for this team and coach. I am disappointed also. Did they show up for the Xavier game? NO! Were they playing very good basketball before that YES!
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I feel stupid that I have to stick up for this team and coach. I am disappointed also. Did they show up for the Xavier game? NO! Were they playing very good basketball before that YES!
You're right, they were playing well. That game should've had a good crowd.
I still had high hopes entering that game.
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I feel stupid that I have to stick up for this team and coach. I am disappointed also. Did they show up for the Xavier game? NO! Were they playing very good basketball before that YES!
Exactly. We had no 6th man in our own house. Yet we bitch and moan when Syracuse and Uconn fans show up and show us how it's done at a real school with a real program.
We have this terrible fan support not because the team doesn't win, but because our students have perpetuated a culture of losing. We play in a legendary arena, and if the Cubs can fill theirs, we should be able to do the same.
The used to have an incentive program for students to get them to attend games. As pathetic as that is, I really wish the incentive could include more than just a soda or popcorn. Like perhaps priority registration for classes, or priority dorm rooms. Something to inspire these sad excuses for college students.
It will probably never happen but it's far more legal than my idea of tasering students for walking in the opposite direction of Alumni Hall close to game time.
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Brian Hamilton @BrianHamiltonSI 1m
Big Ten, Big East making joint men’s hoops announcement in NYC on Monday. Expect it to be challenge series, starting in 2015.
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Brian Hamilton @BrianHamiltonSI 1m
Big Ten, Big East making joint men’s hoops announcement in NYC on Monday. Expect it to be challenge series, starting in 2015.
Rematch vs Penn State, or Rutgers?
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This may not be popular but I think UConn Cuse and Duke should be on schedule every year
Louisville Pitt and Notre Dame perhaps every other year in hiome and home
Don't give a crap about Rutgers or South Florida or Miami from old big east
I would love Gonzaga in a home and home
Also just want to schedule live 5 cupcakes for the preseason schedule and do a major pre season tourney every year
I want us to play schools like Florida Michigan (or Mich St) Kansas Kentucky UCLA Texas and UNC from time to time
If we want to recruit nationally we need to play national teams even if they are losses (in a worst case they at least help RPI and SOS)
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Has anybody heard about a B10, BE media announcement tomorrow?
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yes, announcing an 8 year big east - big 10 series of games to start season.
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yes, announcing an 8 year big east - big 10 series of games to start season.
Awesome! Way to go BE to be proactive! Now it is up to us to be relevant...All BE teams...
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Hopefully both conferences can stick it to the ACC. Being a hater right now.
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Big10 Network and FS1 should split the rights, which is a tremendous advancement in the battle with ESPN/ACC. I really like the idea of our Midwest teams having nice draws with them throughout the region. The joint agreement should be seamless with the Big10 moving their front offices into Manhattan. The ACC/SEC match ups have no juice, this is a very nice marriage for the BE. Power move.
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Big10 Network and FS1 should split the rights, which is a tremendous advancement in the battle with ESPN/ACC. I really like the idea of our Midwest teams having nice draws with them throughout the region. The joint agreement should be seamless with the Big10 moving their front offices into Manhattan. The ACC/SEC match ups have no juice, this is a very nice marriage for the BE. Power move.
Bit ten still continuing series with ACC, but I love this move.
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good move. But only if we win. Cant get killed
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good move. But only if we win. Cant get killed
we need to be competitive and split to show that were legit. Great move by the BE. Is this just for BB?
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Only 8 games so each year 2 BE and 6 B10 teams will sit out. Should be 10 games so less teams miss out but I guess TV rules and only have room for 4 nights of doubleheaders.
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So Brandon Sampson, Isaiah Briscoe, Cheick Diallo, you want to play Michigan at MSG? How about Duke at Cameron? How about Maui in November?
Come on down…
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yes, announcing an 8 year big east - big 10 series of games to start season.
Awesome! Way to go BE to be proactive! Now it is up to us to be relevant...All BE teams...
This is exactly what the Big East needs!
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Great to have Big Ten vs Big East series. Gives us more legitimacy. I just wish we had a more established front-court here because we might be in for a difficult season. Really need to land this kid Martin and bolster our forward spots. That said, I'd love to see SJU vs Michigan. Would be a great draw too.
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Great to have Big Ten vs Big East series. Gives us more legitimacy. I just wish we had a more established front-court here because we might be in for a difficult season. Really need to land this kid Martin and bolster our forward spots. That said, I'd love to see SJU vs Michigan. Would be a great draw too.
The schedule needs to be a selling point for recruiting.
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Ironically on the day the Big 10/BE announce the matchups starting next year the Big 10 announces they will be bringing the Big 10 Tourney to BE country, but not NY. DC!!!
Daniel Martin @DMartinCSN · 30m
Big Ten tournament coming to Verizon Center in 2017, source confirms to CSN: http://bit.ly/Q7I8Cd (http://bit.ly/Q7I8Cd)
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Ironically on the day the Big 10/BE announce the matchups starting next year the Big 10 announces they will be bringing the Big 10 Tourney to BE country, but not NY. DC!!!
Daniel Martin @DMartinCSN · 30m
Big Ten tournament coming to Verizon Center in 2017, source confirms to CSN: http://bit.ly/Q7I8Cd (http://bit.ly/Q7I8Cd)
What will always help the BE is that we will always play at MSG in NYC. The other conferences will have to rotate.
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Ironically on the day the Big 10/BE announce the matchups starting next year the Big 10 announces they will be bringing the Big 10 Tourney to BE country, but not NY. DC!!!
Daniel Martin @DMartinCSN · 30m
Big Ten tournament coming to Verizon Center in 2017, source confirms to CSN: http://bit.ly/Q7I8Cd (http://bit.ly/Q7I8Cd)
What will always help the BE is that we will always play at MSG in NYC. The other conferences will have to rotate.
Each conference really needs to find a semi permanent place for their post season tournament
The ACC should be down south, not in Brooklyn.
The Pac !2 should be at the Staples Center, not in Vegas
The Mountain West should be in Vegas
Perhaps ACC should consider Miami as a good venue where everyone would travel to
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Ironically on the day the Big 10/BE announce the matchups starting next year the Big 10 announces they will be bringing the Big 10 Tourney to BE country, but not NY. DC!!!
Daniel Martin @DMartinCSN · 30m
Big Ten tournament coming to Verizon Center in 2017, source confirms to CSN: http://bit.ly/Q7I8Cd (http://bit.ly/Q7I8Cd)
What will always help the BE is that we will always play at MSG in NYC. The other conferences will have to rotate.
Each conference really needs to find a semi permanent place for their post season tournament
The ACC should be down south, not in Brooklyn.
The Pac !2 should be at the Staples Center, not in Vegas
The Mountain West should be in Vegas
Perhaps ACC should consider Miami as a good venue where everyone would travel to
The B1G will be in NY a few years after DC. I guess Barclay's keeps making hay on all the tourneys.
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@JonRothstein: 2014 Preseason NIT with four potential NCAA teams as host schools --- Minnesota, Gonzaga, St. John's, Georgia. Very solid field. #SJUBB
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@JonRothstein: 2014 Preseason NIT with four potential NCAA teams as host schools --- Minnesota, Gonzaga, St. John's, Georgia. Very solid field. #SJUBB
So I understand. We play 2 games vs crappy teams, win or lose we go to garden? Then we play 4 team tournament?
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@JonRothstein: 2014 Preseason NIT with four potential NCAA teams as host schools --- Minnesota, Gonzaga, St. John's, Georgia. Very solid field. #SJUBB
So I understand. We play 2 games vs crappy teams, win or lose we go to garden? Then we play 4 team tournament?
No, the NIT is the only pre-season tournament of this type that still requires you to win those two games I believe.
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@JonRothstein: 2014 Preseason NIT with four potential NCAA teams as host schools --- Minnesota, Gonzaga, St. John's, Georgia. Very solid field. #SJUBB
So I understand. We play 2 games vs crappy teams, win or lose we go to garden? Then we play 4 team tournament?
No, the NIT is the only pre-season tournament of this type that still requires you to win those two games I believe.
Correct. However, every team is now guaranteed to play 4 games. If we don't make MSG, we will host two more games on campus, the Monday and Tuesday of Thanksgiving week.
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@JonRothstein: 2014 Preseason NIT with four potential NCAA teams as host schools --- Minnesota, Gonzaga, St. John's, Georgia. Very solid field. #SJUBB
So I understand. We play 2 games vs crappy teams, win or lose we go to garden? Then we play 4 team tournament?
No, the NIT is the only pre-season tournament of this type that still requires you to win those two games I believe.
Correct. However, every team is now guaranteed to play 4 games. If we don't make MSG, we will host two more games on campus, the Monday and Tuesday of Thanksgiving week.
Chance to top Robert Morris on campus NIT non attendance level if that occurs. ;)
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@JonRothstein: 2014 Preseason NIT with four potential NCAA teams as host schools --- Minnesota, Gonzaga, St. John's, Georgia. Very solid field. #SJUBB
So I understand. We play 2 games vs crappy teams, win or lose we go to garden? Then we play 4 team tournament?
No, the NIT is the only pre-season tournament of this type that still requires you to win those two games I believe.
Correct. However, every team is now guaranteed to play 4 games. If we don't make MSG, we will host two more games on campus, the Monday and Tuesday of Thanksgiving week.
If they don't make MSG then the season's already over before I've had my other turkey. ;)
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Thanks for answering my question. Think we will be setup very well in first 2 games. They are going to need us for attendance.
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Thanks for answering my question. Think we will be setup very well in first 2 games. They are going to need us for attendance.
Than they need to set us up to play two schools that have club teams. (They tried to set us up in post season NIT and that didn't work).
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Celtics- ur hate has gone toooo far. I wish we ended better. Not a great season. Think we are closer to being good then closer to sucking.
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Don't buy those tickets for the games at MSG just yet...
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 7m
Saint Joseph's will be a part of the St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
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Don't buy those tickets for the games at MSG just yet...
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 7m
Saint Joseph's will be a part of the St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
This game will determine once and for all who gets the acronym SJU!!!!
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Don't buy those tickets for the games at MSG just yet...
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 7m
Saint Joseph's will be a part of the St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
This game will determine once and for all who gets the acronym SJU!!!!
I thought the Dom buzzer beater in the NIT determined it once and for all
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m
St. John's will face Fordham + Manhattan will play Rutgers as part of the Holiday Festival @ MSG on 12/13/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
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So as far as nonconference opponents go we have:
Tulane @ Barclays
Niagra @ CA
Duke @ MSG
Syracuse @ Carrier Dome
Fordham @ MSG
and potentially
St. Joe's @ CA
2 of Gonzaga, Minnesota, Georgia (if we beat St. Joe's)
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m
St. John's will face Fordham + Manhattan will play Rutgers as part of the Holiday Festival @ MSG on 12/13/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
Should be a 2 game "classic" with us + Syracuse + MAAC school + A10 school, winners and losers play the next day.
This is not difficult to envision or set up.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m
St. John's will face Fordham + Manhattan will play Rutgers as part of the Holiday Festival @ MSG on 12/13/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
Should be a 2 game "classic" with us + Syracuse + MAAC school + A10 school, winners and losers play the next day.
This is not difficult to envision or set up.
That would be considered a tournament and the NCAA has put restrictions on how many a team can play during a season so schools get around it by playing in "one Game" classics usually sponsored by an advertiser and even though there might be multiple teams, you don't ever see a winners or losers bracket.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m
St. John's will face Fordham + Manhattan will play Rutgers as part of the Holiday Festival @ MSG on 12/13/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
Should be a 2 game "classic" with us + Syracuse + MAAC school + A10 school, winners and losers play the next day.
This is not difficult to envision or set up.
Id settle for just playing Manhattan instead.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m
St. John's will face Fordham + Manhattan will play Rutgers as part of the Holiday Festival @ MSG on 12/13/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
Should be a 2 game "classic" with us + Syracuse + MAAC school + A10 school, winners and losers play the next day.
This is not difficult to envision or set up.
Id settle for just playing Manhattan instead.
Yea, playing Fordham is getting old. Maybe for some of the older fans it's a true rivalry, but I don't feel that way.
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I miss when the Holiday Festival was a two day tournament. But this is a solid doubleheader. I skipped La Salle vs Stony Brook this year because well, duh. I'll probably check out Manhattan/Rutgers next season.
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I miss when the Holiday Festival was a two day tournament. But this is a solid doubleheader. I skipped La Salle vs Stony Brook this year because well, duh. I'll probably check out Manhattan/Rutgers next season.
It was even better when it was an 8 team tournament and a GO card got you in to the old Garden for 50 cents
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Snooze fest
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 3m
St. John's will face Fordham + Manhattan will play Rutgers as part of the Holiday Festival @ MSG on 12/13/14, source told @CBSSports. #SJUBB
Should be a 2 game "classic" with us + Syracuse + MAAC school + A10 school, winners and losers play the next day.
This is not difficult to envision or set up.
Id settle for just playing Manhattan instead.
Yea, playing Fordham is getting old. Maybe for some of the older fans it's a true rivalry, but I don't feel that way.
That was the JV vs the Varsity.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 2m
St. John's will host Saint Mary's at Carnesecca Arena on Saturday 12/20/14, source told @CBSSports. Return game of H and H series. #SJUBB
Tulane @ Barclays
Niagra @ CA
Duke @ MSG (1/31)
Syracuse @ Carrier Dome
Fordham @ MSG (12/13)
St. Mary's @ CA (12/20)
Long Beach State @ CA
and potentially
St. Joe's, Stony Brook @ CA
2 of Gonzaga, Minnesota, Georgia (if we beat St. Joe's)
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 2m
St. John's will host Saint Mary's at Carnesecca Arena on Saturday 12/20/14, source told @CBSSports. Return game of H and H series. #SJUBB
Tulane @ Barclays
Niagra @ CA
Duke @ MSG
Syracuse @ Carrier Dome
Fordham @ MSG
St. Mary's @ CA (12/20)
and potentially
St. Joe's, Stony Brook @ CA
2 of Gonzaga, Minnesota, Georgia (if we beat St. Joe's)
long beach state as well
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 2m
St. John's will host Saint Mary's at Carnesecca Arena on Saturday 12/20/14, source told @CBSSports. Return game of H and H series. #SJUBB
Tulane @ Barclays
Niagra @ CA
Duke @ MSG
Syracuse @ Carrier Dome
Fordham @ MSG
St. Mary's @ CA (12/20)
and potentially
St. Joe's, Stony Brook @ CA
2 of Gonzaga, Minnesota, Georgia (if we beat St. Joe's)
long beach state as well
Good call.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 2m
St. John's will host Saint Mary's at Carnesecca Arena on Saturday 12/20/14, source told @CBSSports. Return game of H and H series. #SJUBB
Tulane @ Barclays
Niagra @ CA
Duke @ MSG (1/31)
Syracuse @ Carrier Dome
Fordham @ MSG (12/13)
St. Mary's @ CA (12/20)
Long Beach State @ CA
and potentially
St. Joe's, Stony Brook @ CA
2 of Gonzaga, Minnesota, Georgia (if we beat St. Joe's)
Look alot like last years garbage schedule. Hopefully next yrs schedule is better when Lavin and Monosch are gone
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So Duke, Syracuse, Minnesota, Gonzaga and St Marys would be garbage? plus the following year we're in Maui
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i like it. Dont mind playing fordham. Shouldnt be at the garden or in the Hoilday Festival though. Tulane game makes no sense.
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Home and home with Tulane? We keep losing out for LA kids
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@JonRothstein: Stony Brook will be a part of St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT along with Saint Joseph's, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
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@JonRothstein: Stony Brook will be a part of St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT along with Saint Joseph's, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Thanks for this. Stony Brook has been good the last couple of years, so I'm guessing they will match up Stony Brook with St. Joe's the first night, followed by us vs. the fourth team (assuming that team is garbage).
Still like our chances to get to MSG, but it is by no means a lock.
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@JonRothstein: Stony Brook will be a part of St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT along with Saint Joseph's, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Thanks for this. Stony Brook has been good the last couple of years, so I'm guessing they will match up Stony Brook with St. Joe's the first night, followed by us vs. the fourth team (assuming that team is garbage).
Still like our chances to get to MSG, but it is by no means a lock.
I like the way Stony Brook hustles on defense. It would be great to see us try that hard.
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http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/06/report-st-joes-in-st-johns-preseason-nit-pod/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/06/report-st-joes-in-st-johns-preseason-nit-pod/)
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@JonRothstein: Stony Brook will be a part of St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT along with Saint Joseph's, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Thanks for this. Stony Brook has been good the last couple of years, so I'm guessing they will match up Stony Brook with St. Joe's the first night, followed by us vs. the fourth team (assuming that team is garbage).
Still like our chances to get to MSG, but it is by no means a lock.
I like the way Stony Brook hustles on defense. It would be great to see us try that hard.
I have been a fan for 20 years. Absolutely wasn't happy with season overall. But we had a bunch of games where we looked really good , where we played amazing defense, sad for some of you guys that missed it.
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@JonRothstein: Stony Brook will be a part of St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT along with Saint Joseph's, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Thanks for this. Stony Brook has been good the last couple of years, so I'm guessing they will match up Stony Brook with St. Joe's the first night, followed by us vs. the fourth team (assuming that team is garbage).
Still like our chances to get to MSG, but it is by no means a lock.
I like the way Stony Brook hustles on defense. It would be great to see us try that hard.
I have been a fan for 20 years. Absolutely wasn't happy with season overall. But we had a bunch of games where we looked really good , where we played amazing defense, sad for some of you guys that missed it.
It's the ending of a movie, novel, speech, game, season, etc. that people remember most. We didn't miss the season. We just have the fugly memory of us laying down like dogs against the Robert Morris associates burned into our conscious and subconscious. It's difficult for me to recall any good in the beginning and middle when that's the way it went down in the end.
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@JonRothstein: St. John's will host Long Beach State on Monday 12/22/14 at Carnesecca Arena, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
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Would like to start a home and home with San Diego State
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@JonRothstein: Stony Brook will be a part of St. John's pod in the Preseason NIT along with Saint Joseph's, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Thanks for this. Stony Brook has been good the last couple of years, so I'm guessing they will match up Stony Brook with St. Joe's the first night, followed by us vs. the fourth team (assuming that team is garbage).
Still like our chances to get to MSG, but it is by no means a lock.
I like the way Stony Brook hustles on defense. It would be great to see us try that hard.
I have been a fan for 20 years. Absolutely wasn't happy with season overall. But we had a bunch of games where we looked really good , where we played amazing defense, sad for some of you guys that missed it.
I think everyone saw the run the went on. It was inspiring while it was happening, but you have to finish strong as well, and we simply didn't. The Xavier game really showed their lack of focus and preparation. They were supposed to learn after the 12-13 season. They didn't. Why remains to be seen but the players are the amatuers here.
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Agree about that we layed an egg vs Xavier . But we were the hottest team in the country for over a month before that. I think we finished strong. Think Lavin did a great job from mid January on. He deserves and hasn't gotten enough criticism for the beginning if the season. Think he learned his lesson. Assistant coaches will have more say going forward . I think we are going to have a very good season next year.
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I think we finished strong.
A first round BE tournament loss at home to a mundane Providence squad and a first round NIT loss at home to an 8 seed in which the savior didn't play with a sore throat and the rest of 'em didn't show up at all is finishing strong? How so?
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http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
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http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
We've become one of their pre season cup cakes. Too bad we're not playing them in February. In Dec, they are lethal.
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@rumbleSBN: That retweet of St. Joe's schedule also includes confirmation that they will play at St. John's as part of NIT season tip-off, Nov 17-19.
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http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
We've become one of their pre season cup cakes. Too bad we're not playing them in February. In Dec, they are lethal.
traditionally Boeheim does not play out of conference games during the conference season ( from 1/1 to end of conference tournament). Look at his history during his BE tenure. This gave him a time to rest his team during the conference schedule usually having one week off in January/February. Thus I don't consider us to be on their cupcake schedule but their pre-conference schedule
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http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
We've become one of their pre season cup cakes. Too bad we're not playing them in February. In Dec, they are lethal.
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
We've become one of their pre season cup cakes. Too bad we're not playing them in February. In Dec, they are lethal.
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
We've become one of their pre season cup cakes. Too bad we're not playing them in February. In Dec, they are lethal.
traditionally Boeheim does not play out of conference games during the conference season ( from 1/1 to end of conference tournament). Look at his history during his BE tenure. This gave him a time to rest his team during the conference schedule usually having one week off in January/February. Thus I don't consider us to be on their cupcake schedule but their pre-conference schedule.
I am glad we are playing them in December or we would have had them and Duke along with 18 conference games in about 65 days. which would have included a lot of travel. Also easier to get to Excuse in early December than mid Jan/Feb
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http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
We've become one of their pre season cup cakes. Too bad we're not playing them in February. In Dec, they are lethal.
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
We've become one of their pre season cup cakes. Too bad we're not playing them in February. In Dec, they are lethal.
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2014/06/date_set_for_syracuse-st_johns_basketball_game_at_carrier_dome.html)
We've become one of their pre season cup cakes. Too bad we're not playing them in February. In Dec, they are lethal.
traditionally Boeheim does not play out of conference games during the conference season ( from 1/1 to end of conference tournament). Look at his history during his BE tenure. This gave him a time to rest his team during the conference schedule usually having one week off in January/February. Thus I don't consider us to be on their cupcake schedule but their pre-conference schedule.
I am glad we are playing them in December or we would have had them and Duke along with 18 conference games in about 65 days. which would have included a lot of travel. Also easier to get to Excuse in early December than mid Jan/Feb
I'd be fine with SU and Duke back to back. We have seniors and juniors. It's time for the Johnnies to take the training wheels off and man up. Actually, it's been that time for a whole now. If we can't handle playing top programs then we should accept playing in a mid major conference.
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@rumbleSBN: That retweet of St. Joe's schedule also includes confirmation that they will play at St. John's as part of NIT season tip-off, Nov 17-19.
St.Josephs is losing 3 out of their 4 top scorers from last season. We should beat them. Anyone know what they have coming in?
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Hawk alum here.
They have a very solid class of transfers and redshirts to compliment a strong 2014 class coming in.
The freshmen are typical Martelli 4 year system players across the board led by Cardinal Hayes' own Shevar Newkirk. I've seen him play and he has a very good chance to be a star in the A10, yet not immediately. Sheed will handle him no problem.
James Demery is supposedly a prolific scorer. He along with 6'6 bruiser Markel Lodge continue a pipeline of NC recruits for the program.
Star sophomore Deandre Bembry is originally from NC by way of St. Pat's. No doubt next year the offense will be run through him with Galloway, Roberts, and Kanecevic all graduating this year.
3 star 6'9 freshman forward Obi Romeo, and redshirt Philly big 6'9 Jai Williams round out the newcomers. Martelli also landed Pitt transfer Aaron Brown last year who will immediately be inserted into the starting lineup.
All in all this is a rebuilding year for the Hawks. The Johnnies depth, versatility, and experience should handle a St. Joe's team in their infancy of learning and gelling into Martelli's system. Lavin should press early and often IMO. It takes months if not years for Martelli's teams to buy into his system and eventually play wonderful team ball. Case in point this year's NCAA team who progressively got better as a team each year. This should be an easy W in Queens.
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Hawk alum here.
They have a very solid class of transfers and redshirts to compliment a strong 2014 class coming in.
The freshmen are typical Martelli 4 year system players across the board led by Cardinal Hayes' own Shevar Newkirk. I've seen him play and he has a very good chance to be a star in the A10, yet not immediately. Sheed will handle him no problem.
James Demery is supposedly a prolific scorer. He along with 6'6 bruiser Markel Lodge continue a pipeline of NC recruits for the program.
Star sophomore Deandre Bembry is originally from NC by way of St. Pat's. No doubt next year the offense will be run through him with Galloway, Roberts, and Kanecevic all graduating this year.
3 star 6'9 freshman forward Obi Romeo, and redshirt Philly big 6'9 Jai Williams round out the newcomers. Martelli also landed Pitt transfer Aaron Brown last year who will immediately be inserted into the starting lineup.
All in all this is a rebuilding year for the Hawks. The Johnnies depth, versatility, and experience should handle a St. Joe's team in their infancy of learning and gelling into Martelli's system. Lavin should press early and often IMO. It takes months if not years for Martelli's teams to buy into his system and eventually play wonderful team ball. Case in point this year's NCAA team who progressively got better as a team each year. This should be an easy W in Queens.
No such thing as an easy win in Queens
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@rumbleSBN: That retweet of St. Joe's schedule also includes confirmation that they will play at St. John's as part of NIT season tip-off, Nov 17-19.
St.Josephs is losing 3 out of their 4 top scorers from last season. We should beat them. Anyone know what they have coming in?
Our foot to their arse.
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@StJohnsBBall: #SJUBB will meet Tulane on Sunday, Dec. 28 at @barclayscenter as part of the BROOKLYN HOOPS Winter Festival presented by Honda.
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@StJohnsBBall: #SJUBB will meet Tulane on Sunday, Dec. 28 at @barclayscenter as part of the BROOKLYN HOOPS Winter Festival presented by Honda.
Should do well on a late season NFL Sunday.
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Over/under 500 in attendance for that game
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Under 500 if u don't count workers. Would rather play at Barclays then on campus. I like beer and nice seats. Don't know why they are playing Tulane though
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Renewing that Niagara matchup.
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Renewing that Niagara matchup.
This is where the series left off
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=273492599 (http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=273492599)
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Renewing that Niagara matchup.
This is where the series left off
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=273492599 (http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=273492599)
If St Johns loses this year, they should get rid of the program
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Renewing that Niagara matchup.
This is where the series left off
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=273492599 (http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=273492599)
I was at that game. The Burrell technical sent them in a tailspin, and they never recovered. Yet another terrible job by Norm Roberts. Man, I hate that guy a little more every time I think of him.
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@StJohnsBBall: Lavin Adds Size To St. John's Roster With Signings Of Two New York Big Men: http://t.co/uoC9bBCNMP (http://t.co/uoC9bBCNMP) #sjubb #bigeast
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Potential Preseason NIT problem;
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/99527/3-point-shot-preseason-nit-scrambling (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/99527/3-point-shot-preseason-nit-scrambling)
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Potential Preseason NIT problem;
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/99527/3-point-shot-preseason-nit-scrambling (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/99527/3-point-shot-preseason-nit-scrambling)
Could work out in our favor if we get to play all 3 of the other big-time teams at MSG.
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So we are maybe playing- minnesota, georgia, or gonzaga- in half empty MSG
And playing Tulane in front of 750 people.
While Nova will play Michigan in a packed garden, and Syracuse will play Texas at a packed Barclays. Someone should be fired for this.
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So we are maybe playing- minnesota, georgia, or gonzaga- in half empty MSG
And playing Tulane in front of 750 people.
While Nova will play Michigan in a packed garden, and Syracuse will play Texas at a packed Barclays. Someone should be fired for this.
SU isn't packing Barclays. They are going to struggle massively next year. They return less than I can remember them ever returning. And don't think their fans are so wonderful. If they struggle, in a NY minute, it's "they suck. Why bother going?"
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/99538/3-point-shot-nit-format-good-for-st-johns (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/99538/3-point-shot-nit-format-good-for-st-johns)
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@AdamZagoria: Syracuse will host St. John's Dec. 6 in the Carrier Dome
@AdamZagoria: @2real_AP St. John's probably has a more experienced group of guards than Syracuse, which will have a freshman PG.
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So we are maybe playing- minnesota, georgia, or gonzaga- in half empty MSG
And playing Tulane in front of 750 people.
While Nova will play Michigan in a packed garden, and Syracuse will play Texas at a packed Barclays. Someone should be fired for this.
I am pretty sure we are playing Minnesota
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@JonRothstein: St. John's will host Long Beach State on Monday 12/22/14 at Carnesecca Arena, source told @CBSSports. #sjubb
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein · 12h
Long Beach State looking like a sneaky good team in the Big West. Dangerous back court with Mike Caffey and fmr UCLA guard Tyler Lamb.
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@wildjays: NIT Tip-Off will have set semifinal matchups - Gonzaga vs. Georgia, Minnesota vs. St. John's - Andy Katz
The NIT Season Tip-Off will no longer be a bracketed event and instead will be a classic with set semifinal matchups at Madison Square Garden in New York -- pitting Gonzaga against Georgia and Minnesota versus St. John's -- after the NCAA could only get eight teams in the field instead of 16, a source told ESPN.
The Gonzaga-Georgia and Minnesota-St. John's semifinals will be played on Wednesday, Nov. 26, with a consolation and championship game on Friday, Nov. 28.
The NCAA-run event will add a new wrinkle due to the reduced field and feature a doubleheader at MSG on Thanksgiving (Nov. 27) with the other four teams, as LIU plays Stony Brook and Saint Joseph's takes on Western Kentucky.
The NIT Season Tip-Off will have four games at campus sites prior to the eight teams' arrival in New York, with Saint Joseph's playing at Gonzaga, Western Kentucky at Minnesota, Stony Brook at Georgia and LIU at St. John's. Dates and times will be released by the NCAA later in the week.
The NCAA is scheduling a few Division II schools to get a fourth game in the event for some of the teams. The source said not all of the schools wanted a fourth game.
The NIT Season Tip-Off's previous format was for the four hosts to play two home games in a traditional format, with the winners earning a trip to MSG. The other tournaments that end at a neutral site in New York, Brooklyn, Las Vegas and Kansas City have set semifinal matchups, regardless of what happens in games on campus.
The NIT Season Tip-Off will continue in 2015, but more likely as an eight-team field, as a 16-team field is too hard to fill.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/11462624/nit-season-tip-feature-eight-teams-set-matchups (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/11462624/nit-season-tip-feature-eight-teams-set-matchups)
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@wildjays: NIT Tip-Off will have set semifinal matchups - Gonzaga vs. Georgia, Minnesota vs. St. John's - Andy Katz
We get Minnesota at MSG on Wednesday November 26 and either Gonzaga or Georgia on Black Friday.
We also get a game against LIU at CA.
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I really hope we aren't one of the teams playing a D2 team. Would rather not have a game than play a D2.
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I really hope we aren't one of the teams playing a D2 team. Would rather not have a game than play a D2.
I would wish there was a way to just get another game. # of wins is big come tourney time.
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@wildjays: NIT Tip-Off will have set semifinal matchups - Gonzaga vs. Georgia, Minnesota vs. St. John's - Andy Katz
We get Minnesota at MSG on Wednesday November 26 and either Gonzaga or Georgia on Black Friday.
We also get a game against LIU at CA.
Well according to Seth Greenberg, Mark Few may have the best team he has ever had at Gonzaga and that is saying a lot.
Sure looks like if SJU wins their semifinal game it will almost certainly be the ZAGS in the final.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbexperts/post?id=2937 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbexperts/post?id=2937)
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@StJohnsBBall · 3m
The Red Storm will first host both Franklin Pierce (Nov. 17) and LIU Brooklyn (Nov. 19) at Carnesecca Arena. #sjubb
@StJohnsBBall · 2m
St. John’s will then head to Madison Square Garden to play Minnesota (Nov. 26) and Gonzaga/Georgia (Nov. 28). #sjubb
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Franklin Pierce and LIU. 2 powerhouses. Should help the RPI
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Franklin Pierce and LIU. 2 powerhouses. Should help the RPI
Hey, Franklin Pierce is a good ballplayer! 6'8 can rebound and shoot!
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what the hell is franklin pierce?
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@NYPost_Brazille: Hearing St. John's will release entire schedule Tuesday now, no non-conference today. #sjubb
@NYPost_Brazille: Also hearing Big East schedule release September 9.
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Franklin Pierce and LIU. 2 powerhouses. Should help the RPI
D-2? Gross.
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Is this the latest a schedule has ever come out or are the medications affecting my perception of time and space?
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@BIGEASTMBB: NYE Schedule I
12:00 p.m.- @StJohnsBBall at @SetonHallMBB
2:30 p.m.- @ButlerMBB at @NovaMBB
5:00 p.m.- @MarquetteMBB at @DePaulAthletics
@BIGEASTMBB: NYE Schedule I
7:30 p.m. #BIGEAST Championship Rematch @BluejayMBB at @PCAthletics
10:00 p.m. @GeorgetownHoops at @XUAthletics.
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@BIGEASTMBB: Here is the full release on the @BIGEAST Men's Basketball schedule with over 100 games on @FOXSports1. http://t.co/ZYssxRAu9N (http://t.co/ZYssxRAu9N)
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http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/bige/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/1415MBBCompositeSked.pdf (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/bige/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/1415MBBCompositeSked.pdf)
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Wed 12/31 12:00 @ Seton Hall
Sat 1/3 4:00 Butler (CA)
Tues 1/6 9:00 NOVA (MSG)
Wed 1/14 7:00 @Prov
Sun 1/18 2:30 @depaul
Wed 1/21 7:00 Marquette (MSG)
* Sun 1/25 DUKE*
Wed 1/28 9:00 @ Creighton
Sat 1/31 12:00 Prov (MSG)
Tues 2/3 7:00 @ Butler
Sat 2/7 12:00 Creighton (MSG)
Wed 2/11 9:00 Depaul (CA)
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
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Wed 12/31 12:00 @ Seton Hall
Sat 1/3 4:00 Butler (CA)
Tues 1/6 9:00 NOVA (MSG)
Wed 1/14 7:00 @Prov
Sun 1/18 2:30 @depaul
Wed 1/21 7:00 Marquette (MSG)
* Sun 1/25 DUKE*
Wed 1/28 9:00 @ Creighton
Sat 1/31 12:00 Prov (MSG)
Tues 2/3 7:00 @ Butler
Sat 2/7 12:00 Creighton (MSG)
Wed 2/11 9:00 Depaul (CA)
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
SH at CA I was told.
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http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/stjo-m-baskbl-sched.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/stjo-m-baskbl-sched.html)
Three Big East games at CA.
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I like it!
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Not one; not two; but Three D2's?
Oh boy!
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Not one; not two; but Three D2's?
Oh boy!
Hopefully St Johns can win both
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full schedule (or at least whats out so far)
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/stjo/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/schedule/schedule.pdf (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/stjo/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/schedule/schedule.pdf)
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That's it, 30 games and 2 exhibitions. Full schedule. And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
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Good schedule overall. Lots of chances for big out of conference wins and a lot of our lesser opponents are pretty good and should present a good challenge.
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Wed 12/31 12:00 @ Seton Hall
Sat 1/3 4:00 Butler (CA)
Tues 1/6 9:00 NOVA (MSG)
Wed 1/14 7:00 @Prov
Sun 1/18 2:30 @depaul
Wed 1/21 7:00 Marquette (MSG)
* Sun 1/25 DUKE*
Wed 1/28 9:00 @ Creighton
Sat 1/31 12:00 Prov (MSG)
Tues 2/3 7:00 @ Butler
Sat 2/7 12:00 Creighton (MSG)
Wed 2/11 9:00 Depaul (CA)
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
What a brutal ending...holy crap. Last seven games are rough and last two on the road. Not a lot of easy outs this year in the Big East.
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Wed 12/31 12:00 @ Seton Hall
Sat 1/3 4:00 Butler (CA)
Tues 1/6 9:00 NOVA (MSG)
Wed 1/14 7:00 @Prov
Sun 1/18 2:30 @depaul
Wed 1/21 7:00 Marquette (MSG)
* Sun 1/25 DUKE*
Wed 1/28 9:00 @ Creighton
Sat 1/31 12:00 Prov (MSG)
Tues 2/3 7:00 @ Butler
Sat 2/7 12:00 Creighton (MSG)
Wed 2/11 9:00 Depaul (CA)
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
What a brutal ending...holy crap. Last seven games are rough and last two on the road. Not a lot of easy outs this year in the Big East.
+1
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Wed 12/31 12:00 @ Seton Hall
Sat 1/3 4:00 Butler (CA)
Tues 1/6 9:00 NOVA (MSG)
Wed 1/14 7:00 @Prov
Sun 1/18 2:30 @depaul
Wed 1/21 7:00 Marquette (MSG)
* Sun 1/25 DUKE*
Wed 1/28 9:00 @ Creighton
Sat 1/31 12:00 Prov (MSG)
Tues 2/3 7:00 @ Butler
Sat 2/7 12:00 Creighton (MSG)
Wed 2/11 9:00 Depaul (CA)
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
What a brutal ending...holy crap. Last seven games are rough and last two on the road. Not a lot of easy outs this year in the Big East.
I think Depaul, Seton Hall and Butler will struggle. If there's a season where you're okay ending with tough ones on the road, it's a season where you're loaded with seniors and upperclassmen. And we are.
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That's it, 30 games and 2 exhibitions. Full schedule. And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
Exactly are people really questioning the strength of the schedule??? Are you serious? The Pierce game was a result of the NIT being screwed up, that has nothing to do with SJU.
Everything else is perfectly reasonable and putting games like Long Beach St and St. Mary's with Duke, Minny, Syracuse and probably Gonzaga is terrific.
I mean people cherry picking a few bad teams as if that is a shock or is indicative of the overall schedule demonstrates those people are not fans and never had a clue about SJU to begin with.
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That's it, 30 games and 2 exhibitions. Full schedule. And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
Exactly are people really questioning the strength of the schedule??? Are you serious? The Pierce game was a result of the NIT being screwed up, that has nothing to do with SJU.
Everything else is perfectly reasonable and putting games like Long Beach St and St. Mary's with Duke, Minny, Syracuse and probably Gonzaga is terrific.
I mean people cherry picking a few bad teams as if that is a shock or is indicative of the overall schedule demonstrates those people are not fans and never had a clue about SJU to begin with.
That's it, 30 games and 2 exhibitions. Full schedule. And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
Exactly are people really questioning the strength of the schedule??? Are you serious? The Pierce game was a result of the NIT being screwed up, that has nothing to do with SJU.
Everything else is perfectly reasonable and putting games like Long Beach St and St. Mary's with Duke, Minny, Syracuse and probably Gonzaga is terrific.
I mean people cherry picking a few bad teams as if that is a shock or is indicative of the overall schedule demonstrates those people are not fans and never had a clue about SJU to begin with.
Agree it is a good schedule but why do you find it necessary to defend every perceived sling against SJU. You would be more palatable if you picked your spots. Because one disagrees doesn't mean they are not fans. Although I may disagree with you on many occasions I do not question your fandom.
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I have December 28th circled on my calendar: finally the revenge match up versus Tulane I've been waiting for lo these many years.
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And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
Don't see how the FP game isn't an exhibition even if it's part of the Nit. I thought a D1 playing a D2 has got to be an exhibition no matter how and when it's scheduled?
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I have December 28th circled on my calendar: finally the revenge match up versus Tulane I've been waiting for lo these many years.
Me too. I'm sure to be in Brooklyn for that one. Hopefully we can top last seasons 2000 fans.
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And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
Don't see how the FP game isn't an exhibition even if it's part of the Nit. I thought a D1 playing a D2 has got to be an exhibition no matter how and when it's scheduled?
Not it's not an exhibition but it won't count towards RPI.
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I'm going to have to adjust my win prediction....this schedule is pretty brutal. The bottom of the league is going to be much better...no easy outs. I think Butler is going to be way better than anyone on this board thinks. The only weak spot for them will be PG. Bringing back Roosevelt Jones, who instantly becomes one of the top players in the confernce is huge for them.
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Butler wins 4 games in old big east. They may and should be better, but if they are a problem. CBI here we come.
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And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
Don't see how the FP game isn't an exhibition even if it's part of the Nit. I thought a D1 playing a D2 has got to be an exhibition no matter how and when it's scheduled?
Not it's not an exhibition but it won't count towards RPI.
Whoever plays Chaminade in the Maui tourney gets regular season wins (or losses).
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I'm going to have to adjust my win prediction....this schedule is pretty brutal. The bottom of the league is going to be much better...no easy outs. I think Butler is going to be way better than anyone on this board thinks. The only weak spot for them will be PG. Bringing back Roosevelt Jones, who instantly becomes one of the top players in the confernce is huge for them.
How can you be weak at PG, and still be good?
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Can someone explain How this schedule is brutal? Butler, seton hall, providence, depaul, creighton, all twice. They don't suck but that is not brutal. Georgetown and Nova are good but not great.
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And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
Don't see how the FP game isn't an exhibition even if it's part of the Nit. I thought a D1 playing a D2 has got to be an exhibition no matter how and when it's scheduled?
Not it's not an exhibition but it won't count towards RPI.
Whoever plays Chaminade in the Maui tourney gets regular season wins (or losses).
We played Chaminade last time in Maui and no you don't get a regular season win for it for the tournament. If you're 20-11 with the D2 win the info the committee get's says 19-11 not 20-11. It doesn't count for the selection committee's purposes.
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Can someone explain How this schedule is brutal? Butler, seton hall, providence, depaul, creighton, all twice. They don't suck but that is not brutal. Georgetown and Nova are good but not great.
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
That's the Brutal part.
Top 4 in the league are projected to be Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's. and 5 of the last 7 games are against the top 4 in the league and the remaining two games are against a quality Seton Hall team and on the road at Marquette which is a tough place to play.
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Can someone explain How this schedule is brutal? Butler, seton hall, providence, depaul, creighton, all twice. They don't suck but that is not brutal. Georgetown and Nova are good but not great.
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
That's the Brutal part.
Top 4 in the league are projected to be Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's. and 5 of the last 7 games are against the top 4 in the league and the remaining two games are against a quality Seton Hall team and on the road at Marquette which is a tough place to play.
It isn't brutal. It's a tough league schedule. That's all. In order for it to be brutal, at least 3 of those teams would need to be ranked.
Oh, we can make it brutal, but that's another story.
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Can someone explain How this schedule is brutal? Butler, seton hall, providence, depaul, creighton, all twice. They don't suck but that is not brutal. Georgetown and Nova are good but not great.
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
That's the Brutal part.
Top 4 in the league are projected to be Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's. and 5 of the last 7 games are against the top 4 in the league and the remaining two games are against a quality Seton Hall team and on the road at Marquette which is a tough place to play.
So everyone in the BE has a brutal schedule because everyone in the BE plays everyone else in the BE more or less. That's good news: we'll get another 6 or 7 bids this year.
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Can someone explain How this schedule is brutal? Butler, seton hall, providence, depaul, creighton, all twice. They don't suck but that is not brutal. Georgetown and Nova are good but not great.
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
That's the Brutal part.
Top 4 in the league are projected to be Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's. and 5 of the last 7 games are against the top 4 in the league and the remaining two games are against a quality Seton Hall team and on the road at Marquette which is a tough place to play.
It isn't brutal. It's a tough league schedule. That's all. In order for it to be brutal, at least 3 of those teams would need to be ranked.
Oh, we can make it brutal, but that's another story.
I expect Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's to be ranked at that point of the year, so...
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Can someone explain How this schedule is brutal? Butler, seton hall, providence, depaul, creighton, all twice. They don't suck but that is not brutal. Georgetown and Nova are good but not great.
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
That's the Brutal part.
Top 4 in the league are projected to be Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's. and 5 of the last 7 games are against the top 4 in the league and the remaining two games are against a quality Seton Hall team and on the road at Marquette which is a tough place to play.
It isn't brutal. It's a tough league schedule. That's all. In order for it to be brutal, at least 3 of those teams would need to be ranked.
Oh, we can make it brutal, but that's another story.
I expect Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's to be ranked at that point of the year, so...
I hope so. What's your prediction for GTown's starting 5?
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Can someone explain How this schedule is brutal? Butler, seton hall, providence, depaul, creighton, all twice. They don't suck but that is not brutal. Georgetown and Nova are good but not great.
Sat 2/14 3:00 @Xavier
Tues 2/17 7:00 @ Gtown
Sat 2/21 2:30 Hall (?)
Mon 2/23 8:00 Xavier (MSG)
Sat 2/28 12:00 Gtown (MSG)
Wed 3/4 9:00 @ Marquette
Sat 3/7 12:00 @ NOVA
That's the Brutal part.
Top 4 in the league are projected to be Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's. and 5 of the last 7 games are against the top 4 in the league and the remaining two games are against a quality Seton Hall team and on the road at Marquette which is a tough place to play.
It isn't brutal. It's a tough league schedule. That's all. In order for it to be brutal, at least 3 of those teams would need to be ranked.
Oh, we can make it brutal, but that's another story.
I expect Nova, Georgetown, Xavier, and St. John's to be ranked at that point of the year, so...
I hope so. What's your prediction for GTown's starting 5?
I think by BE play:
DSR
Trawick
Peak
Copeland
Smith
Wouldn't be surprised to start the year out with
DSR
Trawick
Bowen
Hopkins
Smith
but I think the freshmen break the starting line up sooner rather than later.
Who knows though, Lots of pieces. DSR, Trawick, and Smith are locks. but SF and PF are up for grabs in my opinion.
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The schedule is very good. The harder stretch should be in February/March - gives the team to gel and build up wins, then face the rough stretch with that experience under their belt. Some exciting out of conference home games. Also plenty of day games on the weekends which makes it easier for famlies to attend. Good stuff, all told.
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And of course the regular season D2 was due to the screw up by the NIT but lets not let the facts get in the way of a good whine.
Don't see how the FP game isn't an exhibition even if it's part of the Nit. I thought a D1 playing a D2 has got to be an exhibition no matter how and when it's scheduled?
Not it's not an exhibition but it won't count towards RPI.
Whoever plays Chaminade in the Maui tourney gets regular season wins (or losses).
We played Chaminade last time in Maui and no you don't get a regular season win for it for the tournament. If you're 20-11 with the D2 win the info the committee get's says 19-11 not 20-11. It doesn't count for the selection committee's purposes.
This is all semantics but teams claim wins over D2 schools on their regular season records. Committee might not look at it but it counts as a win. Just as if it would count as a loss.
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Dave, is there a way to put the full schedule as a sticky on the first page for easy access? Not sure if it is easy to format a table using this software to include the current schedule. If this is something that you could use help doing and maintaining, just pm me. I'll be happy to help.