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Title: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: hnk on April 11, 2017, 03:37:22 PM
Any chance of re-recruiting Williams?  We need size and have minutes. 
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Marillac on April 11, 2017, 04:02:36 PM
Any chance of re-recruiting Williams?  We need size and have minutes. 

It was an odd separation to say the least.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: newsman13 on April 11, 2017, 05:11:07 PM
Any chance of re-recruiting Williams?  We need size and have minutes. 

It was an odd separation to say the least.

The smell of desperation is beginning to reach my nostrils.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: mjmaherjr on April 11, 2017, 07:57:23 PM
we might have to pay him soon and I'm not sure I'd be against that
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Poison on April 12, 2017, 08:50:54 AM
The staff only makes exceptions in cases like Alibegovic.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: MCNPA on April 12, 2017, 10:15:19 AM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: derk on April 12, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?

Easy to explain. No one is choosing Williams over Kante. Yes, you're missing the frustration of guys leaving but no one coming back. Where are the bigs that we're recruiting ?
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: TONYD3 on April 12, 2017, 10:27:22 AM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 12, 2017, 10:37:40 AM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

And he has a brain
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: TONYD3 on April 12, 2017, 10:41:03 AM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

And he has a brain
Yes
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: MCNPA on April 12, 2017, 10:41:37 AM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

Yeah but that's not saying much. 
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: MCNPA on April 12, 2017, 10:44:01 AM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?

Easy to explain. No one is choosing Williams over Kante. Yes, you're missing the frustration of guys leaving but no one coming back. Where are the bigs that we're recruiting ?

These guys decided to leave like a week or two ago.  People want them replaced with Dikembe Mutumbo in a day.  We didn't lose anybody who really did much at all except Ellison.  If we land a guy like Kante, I don't think we miss Williams 3/2 average at all.  Also, at this point, Alibegovic hasn't left.  Doesn't mean he won't, but hasn't yet. 
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on April 12, 2017, 11:42:04 AM
I really liked DWill as a player and as a teammate. But the dude is made of glass, he can't be counted on.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: TONYD3 on April 12, 2017, 11:48:17 AM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

Yeah but that's not saying much. 
Ahmed is terrible on defense. Yakwe doesn't battle for position or box out. Owens just tries to block shots. Williams would be great if he could play more minutes. Still I like him for 10/15 minutes a game.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: derk on April 12, 2017, 02:27:30 PM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?

Easy to explain. No one is choosing Williams over Kante. Yes, you're missing the frustration of guys leaving but no one coming back. Where are the bigs that we're recruiting ?

These guys decided to leave like a week or two ago.  People want them replaced with Dikembe Mutumbo in a day.  We didn't lose anybody who really did much at all except Ellison.  If we land a guy like Kante, I don't think we miss Williams 3/2 average at all.  Also, at this point, Alibegovic hasn't left.  Doesn't mean he won't, but hasn't yet. 

At this stage we should put a full court press on Kante. We need to start filling some of these spots, otherwise we wind up with some 6'6 , 200 lb. kid from Mongolia.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Marillac on April 12, 2017, 02:31:28 PM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?

Easy to explain. No one is choosing Williams over Kante. Yes, you're missing the frustration of guys leaving but no one coming back. Where are the bigs that we're recruiting ?

These guys decided to leave like a week or two ago.  People want them replaced with Dikembe Mutumbo in a day.  We didn't lose anybody who really did much at all except Ellison.  If we land a guy like Kante, I don't think we miss Williams 3/2 average at all.  Also, at this point, Alibegovic hasn't left.  Doesn't mean he won't, but hasn't yet. 

It's foolish to expect a 3* freshman to replace a redshirt JR who was a 3* himself out of high school. Williams was the only guy we had that could body anyone inside.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: fordham96 on April 12, 2017, 02:33:32 PM
Waste of time and breath it's not happening move on.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Foad on April 12, 2017, 03:44:08 PM
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

"Williams isn't good. He is very bad. Old dominion and deleware state would live to have him. " TonyD3, when Williams was on scholarship.

"[Williams] is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical." TonyD3, after Williams transferred.

Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: MCNPA on April 12, 2017, 03:54:20 PM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?

Easy to explain. No one is choosing Williams over Kante. Yes, you're missing the frustration of guys leaving but no one coming back. Where are the bigs that we're recruiting ?

These guys decided to leave like a week or two ago.  People want them replaced with Dikembe Mutumbo in a day.  We didn't lose anybody who really did much at all except Ellison.  If we land a guy like Kante, I don't think we miss Williams 3/2 average at all.  Also, at this point, Alibegovic hasn't left.  Doesn't mean he won't, but hasn't yet. 

It's foolish to expect a 3* freshman to replace a redshirt JR who was a 3* himself out of high school. Williams was the only guy we had that could body anyone inside.

It's not foolish to think if we land Kante he can't replace 3.5ppg, 2.5 rebs per game.  In fact if we land him, I bet he does significantly better than those numbers.  Not foolish in the least.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Foad on April 12, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?

Easy to explain. No one is choosing Williams over Kante. Yes, you're missing the frustration of guys leaving but no one coming back. Where are the bigs that we're recruiting ?

These guys decided to leave like a week or two ago.  People want them replaced with Dikembe Mutumbo in a day.  We didn't lose anybody who really did much at all except Ellison.  If we land a guy like Kante, I don't think we miss Williams 3/2 average at all.  Also, at this point, Alibegovic hasn't left.  Doesn't mean he won't, but hasn't yet. 

It's foolish to expect a 3* freshman to replace a redshirt JR who was a 3* himself out of high school. Williams was the only guy we had that could body anyone inside.

It's not foolish to think if we land Kante he can't replace 3.5ppg, 2.5 rebs per game.  In fact if we land him, I bet he does significantly better than those numbers.  Not foolish in the least.

There's no question that Williams would have helped next year. The angst about him leaving though is ridiculous. When J Sampson left it was the best thing ever. When Chris Jones left his dozen double doubles were no big deal. Where's all the addition by subtraction talk.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Celtics11 on April 12, 2017, 05:43:16 PM
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

"Williams isn't good. He is very bad. Old dominion and deleware state would live to have him. " TonyD3, when Williams was on scholarship.

"[Williams] is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical." TonyD3, after Williams transferred.


so you're saying there is a little Mike Francessa in TonyD.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Celtics11 on April 12, 2017, 05:45:26 PM
The clamoring to re-recruit a guy who averaged 3.8/2.6 per game I can't understand.  Am I missing something?  People rather this than guys like Kante or take a chance on a 7'2" kid?
Well he did make a basket i think. Liked him a bit but too loosey goosey for my taste. If he stayed fine but he wants to transfer so let him go.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 12, 2017, 05:47:04 PM
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

"Williams isn't good. He is very bad. Old dominion and deleware state would live to have him. " TonyD3, when Williams was on scholarship.

"[Williams] is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical." TonyD3, after Williams transferred.


little Mike Francessa

Oxynice person
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Celtics11 on April 12, 2017, 05:54:28 PM
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

"Williams isn't good. He is very bad. Old dominion and deleware state would live to have him. " TonyD3, when Williams was on scholarship.

"[Williams] is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical." TonyD3, after Williams transferred.


little Mike Francessa

Oxynice person
Was going to put that in parenthesis but figured I would tee that one up for someone. :)
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Foad on April 12, 2017, 07:02:15 PM
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

"Williams isn't good. He is very bad. Old dominion and deleware state would live to have him. " TonyD3, when Williams was on scholarship.

"[Williams] is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical." TonyD3, after Williams transferred.


so you're saying there is a little Mike Francessa in TonyD.

There is no such thing as a little Mike Francesa.
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: TONYD3 on April 13, 2017, 11:42:21 AM
He is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical. He was by far our best post defender.

"Williams isn't good. He is very bad. Old dominion and deleware state would live to have him. " TonyD3, when Williams was on scholarship.

"[Williams] is a useful player. He plays defense and is phyisical." TonyD3, after Williams transferred.


I imagine the 1st quote was written his first year, when he lived outside the 3 point line. Or it was written after our amazing coach had him cover Michigan states best wing player. I was probably mad because we played a pathetic game which has happened frequently since your boy has been coach.
Williams is an ok player. Our other players just play worse much of the time.
U have to get a life. Get a hobby a job or something.
Occasionally I think your funny. I am sure you can find a quote saying so. But overall your an old man who lives out silly fantasies on the internet. UFOAD!
Title: Re: Re-recruit Williams????
Post by: Foad on April 13, 2017, 12:23:01 PM
I imagine the 1st quote was written his first year, when he lived outside the 3 point line. Or it was written after our amazing coach had him cover Michigan states best wing player.

You have a vivid imagination. Williams took 7 threes total in two years at SJU and played three minutes total versus Michigan State - evidently they were not as impressive as the three minutes Joey D played versus dewk that wowed you so.

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I was probably mad because we played a pathetic game which has happened frequently since your boy has been coach.

You do seem prone to impulsive comments. Perhaps if you considered your opinion before you expressed it you wouldn't be so wrong so often.

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Williams is an ok player. Our other players just play worse much of the time.

I agree. Don't understand why he left and think he could have helped next year.

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U have to get a life. Get a hobby a job or something.

This is my hobby.

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Occasionally I think your funny. I am sure you can find a quote saying so. But overall your an old man who lives out silly fantasies on the internet. UFOAD!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_8O-iDvlmA