6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: paultzman on May 22, 2017, 08:54:43 AM
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https://www.fanragsports.com/news/st-johns-iona-headline-2017-holiday-festival-msg/
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St.John's waited until a season where they believe it won't be a game. It should rarely be a game, but we know that isn't true. Iona overachieved last year, but even in a down year, which it looks this could be, you have to get out on their shooters.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
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Shamorie and Marcus are going to dice up Casimir and McGill. Our size, depth and most importantly height is going to punish them. I'm glad that Mullin is taking this head on.
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Here we go! Hope St Johns doesn't hurt Iona's rpi. Should be a great game to watch. Run and gun, light it up from 3 and zero defense
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Schedule is tough this year, love it.
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WTF are they doing with this schedule? They better bring in a big man for depth at this point.
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Crowd 75/25 Iona ?
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WTF are they doing with this schedule? They better bring in a big man for depth at this point.
According to the Post article, it doesn't sound like this will happen. They could sure use a serviceable big.
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You finally got your wish
Here we go! Hope St Johns doesn't hurt Iona's rpi. Should be a great game to watch. Run and gun, light it up from 3 and zero defense
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Let's guess at the length of pages on this thread by tipoff .
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Here we go! Hope St Johns doesn't hurt Iona's rpi. Should be a great game to watch. Run and gun, light it up from 3 and zero defense
over under at 210 points????
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Here we go! Hope St Johns doesn't hurt Iona's rpi. Should be a great game to watch. Run and gun, light it up from 3 and zero defense
over under at 210 points????
For Iona? Over
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St.John's waited until a season where they believe it won't be a game. It should rarely be a game, but we know that isn't true. Iona overachieved last year, but even in a down year, which it looks this could be, you have to get out on their shooters.
Never a down year with Cluess and Grasso there
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And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.
Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
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And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.
Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
The term is called a "troll"
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And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.
Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
I will be Courtside with my Iona gear on. Come say hi, bring beer
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And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.
Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
The term is called a "troll"
Nah. Trolling would be if I compared Wilson to Freudenberg
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This will be Iona's Super Bowl. We better come to play to match their intensity. First prediction- St. John's 126 Iona 125 in 2 OTs.
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Iona roster, for now
G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi
G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)
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Why are you posting Iona's roster here? Who cares. You should be on an Iona board, oh wait, not enough people care about them to have a board. You would be talking to yourself! But wait, you do that on here anyway!
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Why are you posting Iona's roster here? Who cares. You should be on an Iona board, oh wait, not enough people care about them to have a board. You would be talking to yourself! But wait, you do that on here anyway!
Very angry. I would be too if I just found out Iona was on the schedule. Ionahoops.com, come say hi. Bring beer
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Very angry? Not sure where that came from, but as usual, not sure where half of your babble comes from!
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Now that Baldi worked his magic and got the match up he wanted, maybe he can work it again and get us a big to rebound, clog the middle, use up 5 fouls, catch the ball and give us 20 minutes or so.
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Now that Baldi worked his magic and got the match up he wanted, maybe he can work it again and get us a big to rebound, clog the middle, use up 5 fouls, catch the ball and give us 20 minutes or so.
Need a miracle worker. Or a recruiter
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Thought Much left or was leaving?
Iona roster, for now
G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi
G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)
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Thought Much left or was leaving?
Iona roster, for now
G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi
G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)
Left for a.few games last season but came back
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No I knew that but thought he was gone again
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And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.
Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
I will be Courtside with my Iona gear on. Come say hi, bring beer
Bronx pale ale or Bud light?
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And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.
Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
I will be Courtside with my Iona gear on. Come say hi, bring beer
Bronx pale ale or Bud light?
Anything cold brother.
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ugh, another year and another snoozer for the holiday fest. why do they have so much trouble getting teams for this game that will generate some interest? could they get someone like wichita state or the zags to come east, or even Michigan or a school like that to put fannies in the seats? it seems like we get lame locals that no one wants to see (rutgers, fordham, iona, etc.) or even last year was penn state, right? how exciting.
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ugh, another year and another snoozer for the holiday fest. why do they have so much trouble getting teams for this game that will generate some interest? could they get someone like wichita state or the zags to come east, or even Michigan or a school like that to put fannies in the seats? it seems like we get lame locals that no one wants to see (rutgers, fordham, iona, etc.) or even last year was penn state, right? how exciting.
Common denominator at the awful Holiday festival is St Johns.
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You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?
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You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?
St. Johns is supposed to be the marquee draw at the Garden for the Festival no?
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I thought you thought beer was the draw.
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You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?
St. Johns is supposed to be the marquee draw at the Garden for the Festival no?
They are, that's why they have been drawing 5,000 fans on NFL Sundays. May go this year for the battle of local supremacy.
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And Baldi, a true fan of SJU, will root for Iona to win this game.
Baldi-he rather see SJU fail, so he can make remarks and dig at SJU. A truly remarkable fan of SJU!
I will be Courtside with my Iona gear on. Come say hi, bring beer
you might have to sit in 114 for this. The beers will be flowing
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Iona roster, for now
G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi
G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)
Who could present match up problems for St.John's?
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Iona roster, for now
G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi
G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)
Who could present match up problems for St.John's?
Some nice matchups, will have to wait and see. Alot of new faces on Iona as usual. I want to see McGill on Ponds
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2017/05/st-johns-and-iona-on-track-to-rivalry.html?m=1
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You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?
Matt A pulled a four star recruit out of his ass, that's what happened. Besides being a good thing for a program he hates and fears it destroys Baldi's short term narrative about Barry Rohrssen. And now he has a no win situation game against a BE team in MSG to look forward to: either Iona fans storm the court after they win their Superbowl in December against mighty St John's - and end up looking like Fordham fans - or they take a beating. Either way they lose. Which makes this a pretty bad week for the Gaels.
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2017/05/st-johns-and-iona-on-track-to-rivalry.html?m=1
Hardly a rivalry simply a local matchup.
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You were relatively well behaved for months, what happened?
Matt A pulled a four star recruit out of his ass, that's what happened. Besides being a good thing for a program he hates and fears it destroys Baldi's short term narrative about Barry Rohrssen. And now he has a no win situation game against a BE team in MSG to look forward to: either Iona fans storm the court after they win their Superbowl in December against mighty St John's - and end up looking like Fordham fans - or they take a beating. Either way they lose. Which makes this a pretty bad week for the Gaels.
You're right. This would be listed as a "bad loss" for Iona when the NCAA Tournament committee is doing the seeding in March. But I'm expecting a Gael victory, just hope this game isn't an RPI killer for NY's team
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Iona roster, for now
G:McGill
G: Lewis
G: Much
F: Crawford
F: Edogi
G: Casimir
G: Seaforth
G: Santil
F: Griffin
F: Svandrlik
F: Williams
F: George
F: Still(sit out)
Who could present match up problems for St.John's?
Some nice matchups, will have to wait and see. Alot of new faces on Iona as usual. I want to see McGill on Ponds
I don't think you want to see McGill on Ponds. I don't think McGill wants to see it either. I think McGill could guard Mussini, but Ponds, LoVett and Simon will eat him alive. Now, we'll get to see if I'm right.
I think St.John's took a look at the Iona roster and began salivating.
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This would be listed as a "bad loss" for Iona when the NCAA Tournament committee is doing the seeding in March.
Maac teams don't have bad losses, they are bad losses.
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Not even Paultz will come to Baldi's defense, since he's been unfairly attacking Matt.
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Not even Paultz will come to Baldi's defense, since he's been unfairly attacking Matt.
That you Scheppy?
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This would be listed as a "bad loss" for Iona when the NCAA Tournament committee is doing the seeding in March.
Maac teams don't have bad losses, they are bad losses.
Agreed. Quinnipiac had 21 of them, yet here we are poaching their roster
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This would be listed as a "bad loss" for Iona when the NCAA Tournament committee is doing the seeding in March.
Maac teams don't have bad losses, they are bad losses.
Agreed. Quinnipiac had 21 of them, yet here we are poaching their roster
There are no good players on bad teams, excellent point.
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Foad, leave Baldi alone. Its not a fair fight....
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Foad, leave Baldi alone. Its not a fair fight....
Going to be a long 6 months for you boys
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Crowd 75/25 Iona ?
I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.
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Crowd 75/25 Iona ?
I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.
I was there. Think that was the game where Armand broke the MSG singLe game record for 3 point ters
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Crowd 75/25 Iona ?
I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.
I was there. Think that was the game where Armand broke the MSG singLe game record for 3 point ters
If a tree falls in the Forrest does it make a sound?
At one point they asked me to sub in. I had nowhere to put my beer and was worried that English might drink it so I declined.
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Foad, leave Baldi alone. Its not a fair fight....
Going to be a long 6 months for you boys
Glad to see you finally admit "You" are not one of "Us"
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Crowd 75/25 Iona ?
I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.
I was there. Think that was the game where Armand broke the MSG singLe game record for 3 point ters
WOW, impressive, must be a banner in the rafters for that great accomplishment.
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Crowd 75/25 Iona ?
I went to ST John's vs Duke game couple years ago and stayed for first half of Iona vs Manhattan? I think. There were more people in my kitchen than at that game. They let me sit on Iona bench next to AJ English.
I was there. Think that was the game where Armand broke the MSG singLe game record for 3 point ters
WOW, impressive, must be a banner in the rafters for that great accomplishment.
Yes. Right next to the 8th place banner
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Pretty amazing there is so much buzz for a game against a team that hasn't beat a team from a power conference November of 2014. They have lost their last 5 games vs power conference teams by double digits.
As I've said forever, this is a complete no-win situation for SJU and Iona has everything to gain. If Iona is able to give us a good game in this one our season is not going to go the way we hope.
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Iona has finished the season with a top 100 RPI each of the last 8 seasons. Hovering from 60-85
If that stays to form, losing to them on a neutral court wont be a reason we stay out of NCAA Tournament.
Winning that game gives us top 100 RPI win.
So I like this matchup. Got a buddy that went to Iona for college, might try and force him to go to the game.
Also Iona is 3-29 against the Big East since 96 with most of their games being against Seton Hall and Rutgers (When Seton Hall was BE cellar dwellers)
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Simon Ponds and Lovett should all start. At 6'5, Simon is the de facto 3 man
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If Simon is good enough to send either L or P to the bench - than this is gonna be one heck of a team and I'll be darn excited.
If it's so, then that's your 3 guard starting lineup right there.
Coach brain farted at times last year and didn't start Marcus and it backfired. Don't expect him to repeat that error.
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If Simon is good enough to send either L or P to the bench - than this is gonna be one heck of a team and I'll be darn excited.
If it's so, then that's your 3 guard starting lineup right there.
Coach brain farted at times last year and didn't start Marcus and it backfired. Don't expect him to repeat that error.
I would say Mullin's hand was forced to make that decision
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If Simon is good enough to send either L or P to the bench - than this is gonna be one heck of a team and I'll be darn excited.
If it's so, then that's your 3 guard starting lineup right there.
Coach brain farted at times last year and didn't start Marcus and it backfired. Don't expect him to repeat that error.
I would say Mullin's hand was forced to make that decision
If LoVett was late to a practice and Mullin didn't start him, that's on LoVett. Get to practice on time.
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+1000 to Poison and Baldi on this. Also Lovett never really sulked or caused an issue about it one time. He knows the deal.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
My guess would be Lovett only doesn't start for disciplinary reasons for the remainder of his SJU career. However short that might be be.
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If Simon is good enough to send either L or P to the bench - than this is gonna be one heck of a team and I'll be darn excited.
If it's so, then that's your 3 guard starting lineup right there.
Coach brain farted at times last year and didn't start Marcus and it backfired. Don't expect him to repeat that error.
I would say Mullin's hand was forced to make that decision
If LoVett was late to a practice and Mullin didn't start him, that's on LoVett. Get to practice on time.
If that was the case why couldn't it be plainly stated by the staff? Plus the intel on it from youze guys was vague and inconclusive.
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Perhaps the coaching staff wanted to keep it private amongst the team and not publicly embarrass LoVett. Perhaps.
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I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.
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I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.
You have to learn to read between the lines.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
False. He's the classic SG that can't shoot. Some will try to pigeon hole him into PG, but he is a SF by default. PG's don't dribble the ball to their chest. Also, there is only one player on this roster that has a chance of playing PG in the league and his last name isn't Lovett or Simon.
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I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.
Violation of team rules usually = weed
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I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.
Violation of team rules usually = weed
Lol It almost always means screwing up in or missing class.
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I never even heard the classic and purposefully vague; "violation of team rules" as an excuse for the non starts.
Violation of team rules usually = weed
Lol It almost always means screwing up in or missing class.
Because your puffing the magic dragon
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
We'll see. And he's not Dom Pointer, but that's ok.
I'm told the staff sees him running the point.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
We'll see. And he's not Dom Pointer, but that's ok.
I'm told the staff sees him running the point.
The staff sees him playing the 1-3. They have acknowledged that he's multiple position player.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
False. He's the classic SG that can't shoot. Some will try to pigeon hole him into PG, but he is a SF by default. PG's don't dribble the ball to their chest. Also, there is only one player on this roster that has a chance of playing PG in the league and his last name isn't Lovett or Simon.
I think you're wrong Marillac. The kid is a phenomenal passer for a kid his size. He's excellent with both hands. He can easily play any backcourt spot. Where in these clips does he dribble the ball to his chest? I know clips anrent the best but he doesn't at all... Either he's a PG or a point forward, but I want the ball in his hands plenty. He's mega athletic, and those clips are several years old. Kid is gonna be a killer...
https://youtu.be/AOy29NgPdUY
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
False. He's the classic SG that can't shoot. Some will try to pigeon hole him into PG, but he is a SF by default. PG's don't dribble the ball to their chest. Also, there is only one player on this roster that has a chance of playing PG in the league and his last name isn't Lovett or Simon.
I think you're wrong Marillac. The kid is a phenomenal passer for a kid his size. He's excellent with both hands. He can easily play any backcourt spot. Where in these clips does he dribble the ball to his chest? I know clips anrent the best but he doesn't at all... Either he's a PG or a point forward, but I want the ball in his hands plenty. He's mega athletic, and those clips are several years old. Kid is gonna be a killer...
https://youtu.be/AOy29NgPdUY
How can you tell anything from this terrible video?
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
False. He's the classic SG that can't shoot. Some will try to pigeon hole him into PG, but he is a SF by default. PG's don't dribble the ball to their chest. Also, there is only one player on this roster that has a chance of playing PG in the league and his last name isn't Lovett or Simon.
I think you're wrong Marillac. The kid is a phenomenal passer for a kid his size. He's excellent with both hands. He can easily play any backcourt spot. Where in these clips does he dribble the ball to his chest? I know clips anrent the best but he doesn't at all... Either he's a PG or a point forward, but I want the ball in his hands plenty. He's mega athletic, and those clips are several years old. Kid is gonna be a killer...
https://youtu.be/AOy29NgPdUY
How can you tell anything from this terrible video?
https://youtu.be/MaYnzINeono
Sorry, wrong video. Point being was that he doesn't dribble up at his chest.. Sir'Dom could barely dribble at all til junior year. This kid has a much better handle and passing and I love Dom.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
. Agree... Ponds is a smooth scorer. He needs more muscle, but definitely not a PG even if he can play it at times.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
He ran the offense last year, and he was damn good at it.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
He ran the offense last year, and he was damn good at it.
He did it rarely, and he wasn't that good at it. We lost to LIU when he played point for a full game
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From everything I've read Simon is a very capable passer and PG.
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Simon reminds me of Iman Shumpert. A taller, uber athletic guard who has point guard skills. Those guys are awesome to have if used correctly. You put the ball in his hands and you are doomed. Give me 12 points (8 shots tops) , 4 assists, 4 boards all in the simple flow of the game and some lock down D. Guys like that help you win games!
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet. Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue. Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.
Simon is a not a PG. Everyone will realize that game 1. Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now. He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us. He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw. We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet. Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue. Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.
Simon is a not a PG. Everyone will realize that game 1. Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now. He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us. He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw. We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.
Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet. Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue. Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.
Simon is a not a PG. Everyone will realize that game 1. Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now. He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us. He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw. We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.
Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect
Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet. Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue. Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.
Simon is a not a PG. Everyone will realize that game 1. Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now. He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us. He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw. We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.
Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect
Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.
And Dom didn't succeed until he was forced to play a position that Simon will never play. So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all
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Would think Ponds would want some minutes at the point. Unless he thinks he can be a 2 at the next level
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Would think Ponds would want some minutes at the point. Unless he thinks he can be a 2 at the next level
Agree
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet. Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue. Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.
Simon is a not a PG. Everyone will realize that game 1. Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now. He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us. He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw. We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.
Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect
Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.
So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all
What a truly bizarre thing to write. What kind of logic is that? Simon is 6'5 210 with a 7 ft wingspan and elite athletic ability. How many PGs fit that physical profile? He could make all league averaging less than 6 pts and 1 assist per game if he maxed his ability on d and the glass.
We have a pair of 6'0 170 lb dynamic guards to handle point. Let him play SF and put some of his skills to use against less skilled SFs.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
He ran the offense last year, and he was damn good at it.
This has become bizzarro world. Our 6'0 170 all-everything freshman guard is definitely not a PG to many posters despite possessing exceptional passing ability, court awareness, ability to use both hands at a high level, and a low controlled dribble all because he can score very well. But a 6'5 210 athlete who played nothing but forward at Zona is a PG because he can't shoot. I think I got it.
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Would think Ponds would want some minutes at the point. Unless he thinks he can be a 2 at the next level
Lovett will want to play nothing but PG because that's his only position. Simon will also want to play PG as that is what he will have to play at the next level. That's alot of guys that will want to get time at PG this year
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet. Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue. Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.
Simon is a not a PG. Everyone will realize that game 1. Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now. He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us. He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw. We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.
Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect
Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.
So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all
What a truly bizarre thing to write. What kind of logic is that? Simon is 6'5 210 with a 7 ft wingspan and elite athletic ability. How many PGs fit that physical profile? He could make all league averaging less than 6 pts and 1 assist per game if he maxed his ability on d and the glass.
We have a pair of 6'0 170 lb dynamic guards to handle point. Let him play SF and put some of his skills to use against less skilled SFs.
Dom didn't succeed here until he was forced to play the 4. Simon is not playing the 4. You can't only succeed at the 3 in any competitive level of basketball anymore if you can't shoot. Can you name any good teams in college basketball last year that had a 3 that couldn't shoot?
Simon played little to no minutes at Arizona, it's impossible to tell what position based on the 3 minutes per game he played there.
With Lovett still here, Simon will see minutes at the 3 by default which im fine with. But once Lovett is gone then Simon is going to be our starting PG and he will have to be if we want to be good
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet. Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue. Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.
Simon is a not a PG. Everyone will realize that game 1. Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now. He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us. He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw. We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.
Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect
Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.
So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all
What a truly bizarre thing to write. What kind of logic is that? Simon is 6'5 210 with a 7 ft wingspan and elite athletic ability. How many PGs fit that physical profile? He could make all league averaging less than 6 pts and 1 assist per game if he maxed his ability on d and the glass.
We have a pair of 6'0 170 lb dynamic guards to handle point. Let him play SF and put some of his skills to use against less skilled SFs.
Dom didn't succeed here until he was forced to play the 4. Simon is not playing the 4. You can't only succeed at the 3 in any competitive level of basketball anymore if you can't shoot. Can you name any good teams in college basketball last year that had a 3 that couldn't shoot?
Simon played little to no minutes at Arizona, it's impossible to tell what position based on the 3 minutes per game he played there.
With Lovett still here, Simon will see minutes at the 3 by default which im fine with. But once Lovett is gone then Simon is going to be our starting PG and he will have to be if we want to be good
Your arguments are completely illogical. Dom played great for 2 1/2 years. Part of his soph year and all of his junior year he believed Lavin's Costco point guard bullsh*t and it killed him. Dom defended all five positions and his versatility and athletic ability is what made him special. Simon is more skilled than Dom, but he can give us similar versatility.
As for a SF on a winning team that couldn't shoot...PJ Dozier of South Carolina. He was second on the team in scoring and their second best player and he shot 29% from three (and 59% from FT line) and 21% the year before. SC still made the Final Four. Any player at any position can overcome any deficiency by being better in other areas. Tony Allen led Oklahoma St. to the final four as a SG that couldn't shoot and he was a first round pick too.
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I'd have to give 'Nova the slight edge in terms of best BE backcourts for next season. Brunson, Donte and Booth returning. Ponds and LoVett should be right there though.
Simon is the starting PG unless he gets hurt. Mark my words. My guess is Lovett is a 6th man in name, plays big minutes though regardless.
Let's all say it together: Justin Simon is NOT a point guard.
He is as much of a PG as Dom Pointer.
Simon is a PG that because of his size can play the 2 or the 3. The staff will treat him as such because him and Lovett are the only two guys on the roster that can be trusted playing PG
Ponds isn't trustworthy running the offense?
No. And we shouldn't want him in that role. He's at his best as a 2
This is crazier than your post about Delgado not doing anything better than an average NBA player. Just because Ponds can score doesn't mean he isn't a PG. Conversely, just because Simon can't shoot that doesn't mean we default him to PG. Simon's dribble is high and loose and he only has one hand. He can passs very well, but so could Freudenberg. Ponds is the best passer we've had since at least Omar Cook and he has the best court awareness of anyone I've ever seen wear a St. John's jersey.
Simon has less guard skills than Ellison. Judged as a pure PG, I'd rate Simon's handle a 3-4 out of 10. His passing has developed over his career to compensate for his his lack of shooting ability, but I am curious to see wha a year and a half with Mullin and Richmond did to that awful shot (everyone seems to be able to shoot well with this staff). I'd imagine Simon would bring the ball up from time to time, take guys off the bounce going downhill off a weave or screen, and may even run the offense for a short stretch with a favorable matchup, but he is clearly not a PG. This is really not up for reasonable debate either.
You're talking about Simon like you've watched him play for 4 years. I'm willing to bet you've seen nothing more than youtube videos of him. Everybody including the staff seems to see him as PG except you. Ponds getting significant PG minutes would be nothing short of stupid. He excels as a 2 at this level, why mess with that?
Also if Delgado does things better than an average NBA player why isn't he in the top 100 of draft prospects for this year?
Delgado rebounds the ball better than just about everyone on this planet. Whether that alone makes him a high prospect is not the issue. Your statement was that he didn't do anything better than NBA power forwards.
Simon is a not a PG. Everyone will realize that game 1. Maybe he can get himself there by the end of his senior year if he busts his ass, but he's certainly not one now. He played exclusively SF for Arizona and I went back and watched some of those games after he popped for us. He's raw for a wing...athletic as hell, but raw. We don't need a PG next year anyway, we need a SF.
Delgado would not even be an above average rebounder in the NBA. If he was he'd be in the conversation to get drafted this year or next, but he's not.
Simon never played in more than 6 minutes in a game from February on in the season that he played at Arizona. Plus PJC and Kadeem Allen were on their roster that year and he wasn't playing PG over them. So they did what we are going to do and play him at the 3 when we have our PG on the floor because he has the size to do so. If he's a guard with no shooting skills and no point guard skills how was he a top 25 prospect that drew the attention of Arizona? I don't care how big/athletic you are, if you can't shoot or play PG you aren't a top 25 prospect
Dom Pointer was ranked #35 and couldn't shoot or dribble.
So either Simon is going to succeed at PG or he's not going to succeed at all
What a truly bizarre thing to write. What kind of logic is that? Simon is 6'5 210 with a 7 ft wingspan and elite athletic ability. How many PGs fit that physical profile? He could make all league averaging less than 6 pts and 1 assist per game if he maxed his ability on d and the glass.
We have a pair of 6'0 170 lb dynamic guards to handle point. Let him play SF and put some of his skills to use against less skilled SFs.
Dom didn't succeed here until he was forced to play the 4. Simon is not playing the 4. You can't only succeed at the 3 in any competitive level of basketball anymore if you can't shoot. Can you name any good teams in college basketball last year that had a 3 that couldn't shoot?
Simon played little to no minutes at Arizona, it's impossible to tell what position based on the 3 minutes per game he played there.
With Lovett still here, Simon will see minutes at the 3 by default which im fine with. But once Lovett is gone then Simon is going to be our starting PG and he will have to be if we want to be good
Your arguments are completely illogical. Dom played great for 2 1/2 years. Part of his soph year and all of his junior year he believed Lavin's Costco point guard bullsh*t and it killed him. Dom defended all five positions and his versatility and athletic ability is what made him special. Simon is more skilled than Dom, but he can give us similar versatility.
As for a SF on a winning team that couldn't shoot...PJ Dozier of South Carolina. He was second on the team in scoring and their second best player and he shot 29% from three (and 59% from FT line) and 21% the year before. SC still made the Final Four. Any player at any position can overcome any deficiency by being better in other areas. Tony Allen led Oklahoma St. to the final four as a SG that couldn't shoot and he was a first round pick too.
Defensively isn't the issue. Simon will always be defending 3s and bigger 2s as smaller guards like Lovett/Ponds/Dixon will have to defend opposing PGs.
PJ Dozier wasn't their SF. Thornwell was. Dozier actually played most of his minutes at PG for them and was their best passer. When he wasn't playing PG they would go small and he would play the 4. I can see Simon sort of in that role for us with less shooting volume
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Formal announcement
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062217aaa.html
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Formal announcement
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/062217aaa.html
Defensive battle. Whoever makes more 3s, wins
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I wonder who you are going to root for? ??? ??? ??? ???
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I wonder who you are going to root for? ??? ??? ??? ???
NY's team. Bring beer
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Rounding up all my Iona people from the 90s. St Johns fans better bring their A Game. If they have one
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Rounding up all my Iona people from the 90s. St Johns fans better bring their A Game. If they have one
Hope the two of you have a great time. ;) :)
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Rounding up all my Iona people from the 90s. St Johns fans better bring their A Game. If they have one
Hope the two of you have a great time. ;) :)
Be afraid
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See if Beyrer can snag some court side and I'll sit with you (wearing my SJU shirt, of course, though perhaps my brother pulls out his old Iona fraternity shirt if he still has that in a drawer somewhere).
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Rounding up all my Iona people from the 90s. St Johns fans better bring their A Game. If they have one
Hope the two of you have a great time. ;) :)
Be afraid
We're St. John's fans...we're always afraid.
The campus might as well be in Winterfell, because we all know winter is coming.
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See if Beyrer can snag some court side and I'll sit with you (wearing my SJU shirt, of course, though perhaps my brother pulls out his old Iona fraternity shirt if he still has that in a drawer somewhere).
Which fraternity?
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See if Beyrer can snag some court side and I'll sit with you (wearing my SJU shirt, of course, though perhaps my brother pulls out his old Iona fraternity shirt if he still has that in a drawer somewhere).
Which fraternity?
They have fraternities at Iona?
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See if Beyrer can snag some court side and I'll sit with you (wearing my SJU shirt, of course, though perhaps my brother pulls out his old Iona fraternity shirt if he still has that in a drawer somewhere).
Which fraternity?
They have fraternities at Iona?
Yup. Even made the tournament a few times in the last 20 years
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When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
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When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
LOL
For Iona vs Manhattan game after Duke ST John's game a couple years ago there were like 17 people at the game. Were they all from your crew?
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When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
LOL
For Iona vs Manhattan game after Duke ST John's game a couple years ago there were like 17 people at the game. Were they all from your crew?
Place was empty after the 20,000 Duke fans left and also the 37 St Johns fans
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When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
LOL
For Iona vs Manhattan game after Duke ST John's game a couple years ago there were like 17 people at the game. Were they all from your crew?
Place was empty after the 20,000 Duke fans left and also the 37 St Johns fans
Even using core math 37 greater than 17. I played a CYO game at Brendan Byrne once before a Net game and we had more fans than that game.
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When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
Give Iona a little credit. Despite the fact they haven't stayed within single digits of any power conference team since 2014, it's not a lock that SJU will massacre them
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When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
Give Iona a little credit. Despite the fact they haven't stayed within single digits of any power conference team since 2014, it's not a lock that SJU will massacre them
Good thing the Big East isn't a Power conference, otherwise I would've took that into consideration
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When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
LOL
For Iona vs Manhattan game after Duke ST John's game a couple years ago there were like 17 people at the game. Were they all from your crew?
Place was empty after the 20,000 Duke fans left and also the 37 St Johns fans
Even using core math 37 greater than 17. I played a CYO game at Brendan Byrne once before a Net game and we had more fans than that game.
Pace in the house
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remember st thomas aquinas, and delaware st. there are no gimmes at SJU......We Are
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When do single game tickets usually go on sale? Baldi bringing a crew for the massacre at MSG
Give Iona a little credit. Despite the fact they haven't stayed within single digits of any power conference team since 2014, it's not a lock that SJU will massacre them
Good thing the Big East isn't a Power conference, otherwise I would've took that into consideration
You should watch more college basketball then
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol
Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol
Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?
How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?
SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.
Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
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I don't know if Iona gives away free burgers, but per the NCAA attendance records for '16 season, they avg. a huge 1,826 fans per home game. If I had to bet, I would have guessed maybe 1,200. Surprised me it was that much.. The MAAC overall was ranked 21st conference in attendance but think gets a boost from Siena at # 87 overall w/ 6,259... I had no idea...
and SJU has much to improve at 6,944 but were still 71st in D1....
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2016.pdf
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Not to mention Cook was essentially a first round pick after one year who was second in the nation in assists as a frosh. And Hardy was a wooden award finalist in the old Big East....
Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol
Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?
How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?
SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.
Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?
ST. John's basketball is the White Castle of burgers. You know what's coming after. Either puke or a severe dump
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?
They lost to Bo Ryan. Not as impressive as the 4th place finish in the Mid Major Athletic Conference the best back court in Iona history achieved in 2013, sure, but St John's didn't have to play both Canius, Marist and Rider twice. Had they they might not have finished 3rd in the Big East that year.
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?
Yawn. C'mon Baldi. You've gained credibility back lately, don't go throw it all away.
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Id take Hardy/Horne or Hardy/Kennedy over any Iona backcourt ever.
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?
They lost to Bo Ryan. Not as impressive as the 4th place finish in the Mid Major Athletic Conference the best back court in Iona history achieved in 2013, sure, but St John's didn't have to play both Canius, Marist and Rider twice. Had they they might not have finished 3rd in the Big East that year.
And maybe they would have beat Rob Morris
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
Twenty years is 1997. How do you think these guys would have done in the Mid Major Athletic Conference?
Ponds / Lovett
Hardy / Kennedy
Hatten / Anyone
Cook / Fordham
Barkley / Postell
Minus Postell and Barkley, I would think they would be 1 and done
Marcus Hatten was a supernatural being, Ponds in three years will be better than any player who played in the MAAC since 1850, and you're a clown.
How'd the Hatten led teams do in the NCAA Tournament?
Yawn. C'mon Baldi. You've gained credibility back lately, don't go throw it all away.
I beg to differ. Never had any credibility in the first place. So Im told. Kid will you be at this game?
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol
Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?
How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?
SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.
Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?
ST. John's basketball is the White Castle of burgers. You know what's coming after. Either puke or a severe dump
Well I'm not going to argue that I haven't had the white castle feeling after some games for sure but I like I'll take msg and rooting for sju or watching them on tv ( I won't debate Carnesseca Arena since I can't stand that place ) over driving to Iona to root for them since 99% of Iona's games aren't on tv
I'll give Iona credit though. They do well with transfers who sucked in big conferences
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol
Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?
How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?
SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.
Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?
ST. John's basketball is the White Castle of burgers. You know what's coming after. Either puke or a severe dump
Well I'm not going to argue that I haven't had the white castle feeling after some games for sure but I like I'll take msg and rooting for sju or watching them on tv ( I won't debate Carnesseca Arena since I can't stand that place ) over driving to Iona to root for them since 99% of Iona's games aren't on tv
I'll give Iona credit though. They do well with transfers who sucked in big conferences
Momo didn't suck in a big conference.
But Maher, I bet you enjoy watching meaningful games in March. Those Iona games are on TV"
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Momo def did not suck at Zona but you know that was a unique situation Baldi. And he was coming to SJU if not for the Mo Hicks issue.
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Momo def did not suck at Zona but you know that was a unique situation Baldi. And he was coming to SJU if not for the Mo Hicks issue.
The drama. Ok. So he could've waited a year.
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Rothsteins tweets are funny. But I will say this, Ionas backcourt is no joke. Might be the best ever
Best ever ? Relative to what ?
Best since Armand, Momo and English. Which was probably better than any St Johns backcourt in the last what 20'years?
I'm going to have to google iona players. Will they show up on a google search or do I have to use yahoo or aol
Google, yahoo, and aol all you want. Better program the last 20 years?
How many years was your guy Norm the coach. 1/3 of that time ?
SJU in Big East vs Iona in the Maac is like upscale burger chain Burger Fi vs dollar menu burger chains and Wendys. Burger Fi might be on the lower end of the upscale burger chain burgers compared to Shake Shack and Smashburger but I'll take that type of burger. But being Wendys of the dollar burger menu isn't bad but you can't compare.
Does Iona charge admission to games or do they give free burgers ?
ST. John's basketball is the White Castle of burgers. You know what's coming after. Either puke or a severe dump
Well I'm not going to argue that I haven't had the white castle feeling after some games for sure but I like I'll take msg and rooting for sju or watching them on tv ( I won't debate Carnesseca Arena since I can't stand that place ) over driving to Iona to root for them since 99% of Iona's games aren't on tv
I'll give Iona credit though. They do well with transfers who sucked in big conferences
Momo didn't suck in a big conference.
But Maher, I bet you enjoy watching meaningful games in March. Those Iona games are on TV"
I watch those games like a watch a car wreck. I live for the Baldi angst :)
Where do we play you this year and what day ?
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Momo def did not suck at Zona but you know that was a unique situation Baldi. And he was coming to SJU if not for the Mo Hicks issue.
kind of like being in high school and banging a college chick. It's rare ( although nowadays it seems like high school kids are all banging their teachers )
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Momo def did not suck at Zona but you know that was a unique situation Baldi. And he was coming to SJU if not for the Mo Hicks issue.
kind of like being in high school and banging a college chick. It's rare ( although nowadays it seems like high school kids are all banging their teachers )
Actually, the teachers are banging the kids.
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1 & 2
Syracuse and Iona's winning percentage rank among the 22 NCAA Division I programs in New York State since Tim Cluess took the reigns at Iona in 2010.
Gaels going to take down both NY teams
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1 & 2
Syracuse and Iona's winning percentage rank among the 22 NCAA Division I programs in New York State since Tim Cluess took the reigns at Iona in 2010.
Gaels going to take down both NY teams
I'm assuming you mean crap conference NY teams like Manhattan and Marist
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Must watch backcourts: Temple, Fresno State, Virginia Tech, St John's, LA Tech, Ole Miss, Iona. #CollegeHoops
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from the Iona board
St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.
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St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.
If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.
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St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.
If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.
MSG forced the issue
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St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.
If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.
MSG forced the issue
LOL
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Iona basketball really has a board ?
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St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.
If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.
MSG forced the issue
There has been absolute ton of stupid posts on this board lately (99% of them by Poison) but this one is a hall of famer
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St Johns was slated to play Bucknell but Bucknell pulled out literally like 2 days before St Johns had to start signing contracts, so our name was tossed out there and they reluctantly agreed. Friggin' cowards.
If they were cowards wouldn't they have declined? Anyway, question: how does your "source" on the Iona board know what sent into SJU's acceptance of a game against a shit pencil it in win versus a shitty mid major? Do you have any info about why they scheduled Sacred Heart, because that would be breaking news.
MSG forced the issue
What did they force? The acceptance or the reluctance?
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Tickets went on sale today. I got mines
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Tickets went on sale today. I got mines
Not part of season package?
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Iona STINKS
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Iona STINKS
Probably why they are on the schedule
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46 points ? Hahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
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46 points ? Hahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
1-4. Weber St is a signature win, though.
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Here we come. Be afraid
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Coming from Saratoga for the only game I'll see before going South and expect it to be a boring blowout. Good luck Baldi, you'll need it.
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Coming from Saratoga for the only game I'll see before going South and expect it to be a boring blowout. Good luck Baldi, you'll need it.
No luck needed here. Iona has to win their conference tournament to get in. St. John's loses this game, so do they.
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I’m always gonna be concerned when St.John’s plays a team that usually wins their conference. And I agree with Baldi, St.John’s absolutely waited until they thought they’d have a significant advantage over Iona before scheduling them.
I like how we match up with Iona this year much more than in recent years. I could see Jordan Washington dropping 25 and 12 on us. I don’t see anyone on Iona who we need to prepare for. They do not have a clear lead scorer. By Sunday, we should have two.
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I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.
They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.
Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:
Gaels 77
Johnnies 88
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I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.
They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.
Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:
Gaels 77
Johnnies 88
Biggest advantage I see for us in this game will be our defense. While i agree that Iona has a lot of capable guards, they don’t have a player we will struggle to guard. However, they don’t have a guard or a forward that plays defense at a BE level, or really at all. I think we should win by 20, but honestly, the way some games have gone over the last couple of years, I’ll be happy with a win featuring any score.
One big detail that we haven’t heard much about is whether or not LoVett will play on Sunday. If he’s out again, the game becomes more interesting, but I still think we’ll win. Johnnies are pissed because they know they could have won on Friday, and Iona is going to feel the brunt of their frustration.
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I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.
They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.
Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:
Gaels 77
Johnnies 88
Biggest advantage I see for us in this game will be our defense. While i agree that Iona has a lot of capable guards, they don’t have a player we will struggle to guard. However, they don’t have a guard or a forward that plays defense at a BE level, or really at all. I think we should win by 20, but honestly, the way some games have gone over the last couple of years, I’ll be happy with a win featuring any score.
I was gonna mention our defense could be the catalyst in this game. I haven't seen Iona this season, but if they still aren't playing any defense, then they're gonna be in trouble.
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I watched Iona play one entire game earlier this season.
They run this really impressive weave offense.
It's not like we (and the Globetrotters) used to run where we would weave endlessly with no purpose in sight until there were only a few seconds left on the clock then one guy looks to create his own shot off the dribble or launch a three. They really use it effectively to shift and probe the defense looking to cut the weave short and attack the basket or get an open outside shot anytime the opportunity presents itself.
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I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.
They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.
Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:
Gaels 77
Johnnies 88
Biggest advantage I see for us in this game will be our defense. While i agree that Iona has a lot of capable guards, they don’t have a player we will struggle to guard. However, they don’t have a guard or a forward that plays defense at a BE level, or really at all. I think we should win by 20, but honestly, the way some games have gone over the last couple of years, I’ll be happy with a win featuring any score.
I was gonna mention our defense could be the catalyst in this game. I haven't seen Iona this season, but if they still aren't playing any defense, then they're gonna be in trouble.
They haven't played any defense the past 7 years under Cluess, why would they start now?
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Gaels with a 16 point win over Yale. EJ Crawford and Deyshonee Much getting their swerve back. Iona coming into MSG hot. A name to keep an eye on, freshman CJ Seaforth
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Kenpom has this a 12 point win for johnnies
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Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
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Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.
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as he mentioned when i asked "be careful what you wish for junior"
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Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
Would you like me to tell you why I posted this?
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Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.
Not in that sweet Jaguar he's driving around
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Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
Would you like me to tell you why I posted this?
I think everybody knows why
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Yes
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So we think Ponds stayed home to play for the home crowd? That's cute
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Socrates strikes again,
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Socrates strikes again,
Boo hooo
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Save it for Sunday.
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Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.
Not in that sweet Jaguar he's driving around
A little car envy on your part huh?
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Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.
Not in that sweet Jaguar he's driving around
A little car envy on your part huh?
Nah. I'm still laughing about Ahmed's deal
I'm more interested in the deal they had to give Ali to get him back. That must have been a doozy.
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Marco, what is the status of your prediction of Shamorie suspension? Is it still a possibility?
Give it a few years. I'm sure he'll miss a class.
Not in that sweet Jaguar he's driving around
His girl has some $.
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So we think Ponds stayed home to play for the home crowd? That's cute
You tell ‘em Baldi! Go Iona!! :2funny:
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So we think Ponds stayed home to play for the home crowd? That's cute
You tell ‘em Baldi! Go Iona!! :2funny:
Yeah Baldi!
Go tell 'em some hyperbole and innuendo
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Per Zach B
Chris Mullin tells me Marcus LoVett's status uncertain for Sunday against Iona. Has a sprained left knee that has kept him out of last three games. Did some basketball stuff yesterday. #sjubb
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I think that Much, Casimir, McGill, Crawford, and Zach Lewis can run with our guards. TK Egodi is also a interesting matchup against Marv, very similar skill sets and frames. Iona has a short bench, especially against supreme talent, however so do we. They are undersized, so are we.
They have 5 players averaging double figures in ppg and feature a roster that is a good mix of under and upperclassmen. These kids won't be intimidated, most of them have NCAA Tourney experience. Add in the local psyche to the game alongside how much Iona will come out wanting to upset us and I think that this could be a trap game.
Our players need to be keenly aware of these matchups and impose their will early or this can be a dangerous matchup quickly, LIUBK and Fordham losses in recent years come to mind. Iona has plenty of capable guards. Avoiding early foul trouble will be key, however much like the past 2-3X opponents in the NCAA Tourney under Cluess, its a bad matchup for him. Both teams like to push the ball and break out into transition. They both feast on turnovers. I think that our stars will ultimately outshine theirs. Close game nonetheless:
Gaels 77
Johnnies 88
With Trimble as the only guard off the bench, I truly think that the team needs Marcus back on Sunday. Iona has a very deep backcourt.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/15/iona-faces-st-johns-madison-square-garden-tim-cluess-will-flooded-old-memories/
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/15/iona-faces-st-johns-madison-square-garden-tim-cluess-will-flooded-old-memories/
Nice writeup by Zags. I wasn't aware Cluess had that many siblings attend St. John's or that he lost two brothers.
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http://www.of.com/2017/12/15/of/
Kentucky fans showed their nasty ways in that Iona game. They made a stink at the half because Iona played them tough, then wanted cats to lay it on when Iona wore down. Went to see SJU and Cats in the final. Of course that happend down the road. We all knew Cats got burned when Glover hit his fouls. Was great laughing while their fans squawked on the way out.
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https://nypost.com/2017/12/16/what-it-took-for-st-johns-and-iona-to-finally-play-again/
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9 point spread
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Line jumped back to 10. Thinking Lovett will play
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Line jumped back to 10. Thinking Lovett will play
But if he doesn’t play, and Iona wins, we have a built in excuse.
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They sell alcohol at this?