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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: hnk on January 12, 2018, 06:44:19 AM

Title: Point Guard?
Post by: hnk on January 12, 2018, 06:44:19 AM
We need a(another) point guard for 2018.  Let's get to work.  Who are the targets?
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Marco Baldi on January 12, 2018, 07:10:28 AM
Joe Girard. Hopefully the staff can beat out Vermont, Marist, Tulane and Penn St for his services
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Tiger on January 12, 2018, 07:22:32 AM
I'll play...

WARNING:  I have never recruited anybody, nor have I been recruited.  It's fair so say I know nothing about recruiting but....

With that in mind, I offer the following:

The good 2018 recruits are spoken for.  Same goes for Juco's.  Both would require a multi year commitment which may not be desirable.  A standard transfer (student athlete currently playing at another university who is looking for a better opportunity) would require a year of sitting.  It seems like the Euros have not worked out for SJU, though I'm sure there are kids that could contribute.   Europe is a continent with a couple hundred million residents for Pete's sake.  So far, I have provided no names.

Seat belts on.  Here goes...If we do indeed need a point guard for 2018, the search starts with post grads.  If memory serves me correctly, those names do not surface until April.

That's all I got.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: TONYD3 on January 12, 2018, 08:06:31 AM
We need a(another) point guard for 2018.  Let's get to work.  Who are the targets?
This is with ponds staying or leaving?
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: hnk on January 12, 2018, 08:22:44 AM
Assuming Ponds stays and so does Simon....and Dixon can play a little point.....we'll still need another point.....big man depth seems solved  if sit outs and recruits end up being decent.   A grad. transfer is probably the way to go.   From what I've read, doesn't seem like Girard is a Big East point guard.....for breaking pressure, distributing. and playing pressure on ball defense.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: redmen4life on January 12, 2018, 08:49:47 AM
Wait for guys to decommit
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: TONYD3 on January 12, 2018, 08:56:35 AM
Dixion is not a pg? Agree that we need a PG. always think we should have atleast 3 on the roster.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: hnk on January 12, 2018, 09:36:52 AM
I thought Dixon was a scorer more than a point guard.   Also, is he a lock down defender?
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Johnny23 on January 12, 2018, 10:05:25 AM
And the roster imbalance continues.  Signing an athletic, long PG is forbidden in Queens. Keep the 6'2 shooting guards coming.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: capmaker on January 12, 2018, 10:33:19 AM
I believe Girard is a 2019 recruit.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: hnk on January 12, 2018, 10:44:02 AM
I think the roster will be pretty well-balanced assuming no major defections....we just need a point guard.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: TONYD3 on January 12, 2018, 10:54:30 AM
I think the roster will be pretty well-balanced assuming no major defections....we just need a point guard.
This team stinks without ponds.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: hnk on January 12, 2018, 11:07:46 AM
Did Ponds leave? Have you seen the transfers or recruits play?
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: fordham96 on January 12, 2018, 11:15:15 AM
I think the roster will be pretty well-balanced assuming no major defections....we just need a point guard.
This team stinks without ponds.

They haven't played much better with him recently.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: we are sju on January 12, 2018, 11:37:10 AM
I think the roster will be pretty well-balanced assuming no major defections....we just need a point guard.
This team stinks without ponds.

They haven't played much better with him recently.

Marillac is getting angry
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: TONYD3 on January 12, 2018, 12:11:04 PM
Did Ponds leave? Have you seen the transfers or recruits play?
No ponds hasn’t left- do you agree that it is 50/50?
If we lose ponds, Lovett, Ahmed, and Amar. We lose our top 3 scorers and our 8th  best scorer. How could we be better?
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: hnk on January 12, 2018, 12:30:33 PM
I doubt Ponds leaves.  We can be better with 1) more depth 2) better rebounding 3) a point guard 4) Shamorie regains his shooting touch or drives to hoop more 5) a little more luck 6) a slightly weaker Big East 7) a more experienced staff 8) more size....have you seen Seedee's shoulders? 8) better three point shooting percentage....Dixon and law of averages
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: QuanMan on January 12, 2018, 01:11:56 PM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: paultzman on January 12, 2018, 01:17:13 PM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: QuanMan on January 12, 2018, 01:29:21 PM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Redy2Rumble on January 12, 2018, 01:46:10 PM
Bring in a NYC kid like Alan Griffin. He is a tough nosed skilled combo guard that would bring major moxie to the team.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: QuanMan on January 12, 2018, 01:50:34 PM
Bring in a NYC kid like Alan Griffin. He is a tough nosed skilled combo guard that would bring major moxie to the team.

I'm certainly not mad at that idea, I watched him last night at the big Iona/Stepinac game and thought he was most mature player on the floor. I still don't understand how we're not recruiting Nowell.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: mjdinkins on January 12, 2018, 02:13:41 PM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 

Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Marillac on January 12, 2018, 11:10:08 PM
Every team needs a true PG whether that is your star like Jalen Brunson or just a kid that can get you 15-20 mpg like Malik Boothe. This positionless stuff is good when it works but it also can make things a mess when you've got your center launching threes and your smallest players rebounding. Combo guards like Ponds and Dixon need to play at least part time with a true PG.

For all of his faults, Norm understood this. 
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: gonzalo on January 13, 2018, 07:24:31 AM
Bring in a NYC kid like Alan Griffin. He is a tough nosed skilled combo guard that would bring major moxie to the team.

I'm certainly not mad at that idea, I watched him last night at the big Iona/Stepinac game and thought he was most mature player on the floor. I still don't understand how we're not recruiting Nowell.

It looks like the staff does not have interest in local 3 star players like Nowell or Griffin.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Poison on January 13, 2018, 09:14:26 AM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 


Maybe Frank Martin has spent enough time with southerners and wants to come back to NY?
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Johnny23 on January 13, 2018, 09:50:20 AM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 


Maybe Frank Martin has spent enough time with southerners and wants to come back to NY?

Back to NY? Martin's from Miami.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Pete88 on January 13, 2018, 10:01:17 AM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 


Maybe Frank Martin has spent enough time with southerners and wants to come back to NY?

Back to NY? Martin's from Miami.

Don't you know everyone is from NY. 
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Johnny23 on January 13, 2018, 10:08:43 AM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 


Maybe Frank Martin has spent enough time with southerners and wants to come back to NY?

Back to NY? Martin's from Miami.

Don't you know everyone is from NY.

I mean, yeah, like duh.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Poison on January 13, 2018, 10:09:59 AM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 


Maybe Frank Martin has spent enough time with southerners and wants to come back to NY?

Back to NY? Martin's from Miami.

How about that? You’re right. I’d gladly make an exception if they’d remove Mullin.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Johnny23 on January 13, 2018, 10:13:56 AM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 


Maybe Frank Martin has spent enough time with southerners and wants to come back to NY?

Back to NY? Martin's from Miami.

How about that? You’re right. I’d gladly make an exception if they’d remove Mullin.

+1. Martin's a beast.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Marillac on January 13, 2018, 01:32:45 PM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 


Maybe Frank Martin has spent enough time with southerners and wants to come back to NY?

Back to NY? Martin's from Miami.
He's the most Miami guy ever too. Really weird anyone could think he's from New York.
Title: Re: Point Guard?
Post by: Foad on January 13, 2018, 04:41:09 PM
Give me a veteran rental grad transfer, something this year's team sorely needs and should have.

I'm half joking here, but what about Jahvon Quinerly? Do we dare?

Would he dare? Lol  He'd be crazy not to go to Nova.

Nova staff worked their tails off for him, feds and NCAA Indy offices yet to strike the gavel. Very likely ineligible for accepting impermissible benefits, Europe bound. The involved programs are going to feel the wrath of the government and Indy soon enough. Dark cloud quietly over the sport looming while the season is ongoing, they might do this during March Madness for affect.

Speaking of this, Brian Bowen committed to the Frank Martin and the Gamecocks two days ago. 


Maybe Frank Martin has spent enough time with southerners and wants to come back to NY?

"Unlike many SJU fans I don’t have moles or sources who feed me scoops and insider information but I did hear when Norm was let go that Frank Martin – resplendent last night in a three piece pinstripe suit from the Benny Blanco from the Bronx collection – was being considered as a possible replacement. Alas that did not come to pass, partly I suspect based upon his how should I put this delicately, fiery Latin disposition. Because he’s a bit of a psychopath. According to Martin’s Wikipedia entry he was drawn to coaching when as “a bouncer at a local nightclub .. he was subjected to gunfire while on duty,” which I don’t see the career trajectory there but maybe it’s just me. After a high school career that saw Martin have one of his state championships vacated for recruiting violations, Martin ended up at Cinncinnati where he studied at the vomit splattered feet of Bob Huggins, who he followed to Kansas State and eventually replaced as head coach"