6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2010 Class => Topic started by: JohnnyJungle on January 23, 2008, 01:08:43 PM
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Dylan Kitts will be interviewing him before his game today he is 6'3 SG plays for Bishop Loughlin
expect a profile to be up sometime friday as i'll be heading to ny for the night and will be there into the afternoon tomorrow.
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hes 6'4 now and still growing i heard.my boy tells me hes the real deal
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www.johnnyjungle.com/doronlamb
Bio complete with interview and 3 min highlight video
http://www.johnnyjungle.com/HS12308
recap of his game against Christ of King
All of this can be found on Johnny Jungle's new Recruiting page
www.johnnyjungle.com/Recruiting
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kob, have you seen doron play?
Choz, is this one of your boys?
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I was speaking with two CHSAA coaches tonight and they both said Lamb is the best Soph in the city and one of the Top 5 players in the CHSAA right now..
Both said Bishop Loughlin has the best team too...
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he is really really REALLY good. i just love how he doesn't have to be the star and still help the team.
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he is a PROBLEM he killed sylvan today wow i had no idea he was this good
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he's my favorite player i've seen so far.
how many and 1's did he have today?
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http://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=817562
Perhaps the biggest question that everyone wanted an answer for on Friday night wasn't what college Doron Lamb will be playing for in college. That question that everyone in New York wanted to know was what high school Lamb will be attending in the fall.
His repeated answer went a little something like this: "I don't know. I don't know. I don't know."
Lamb is currently enrolled at Bishop Loughlin and there are rampant rumors abound that have him at Oak Hill Academy in Mouth of Wilson, Virginia.
Lamb said St. John's, Georgetown, Syracuse, Rutgers, Marquette, Kansas, Duke and Xavier were some of the schools that he hears from regularly.
Scott, the top scorer for the Gauchos on Friday night, offered up a list of nearly the entire Big East, Memphis, Miami, Xavier, Wake Forest and Virginia. Scott said he has heard from everyone except South Florida and Villanova in the Big East. He has unofficially visited Memphis, UConn, St. John's, Xavier and Miami to date.
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he would be an amazing get.
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http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=819698
All of New York wants to know what high school will Doron Lamb play at in the fall.
"Where are you going to high school next year?" That was asked several different ways by several different people. It has been rumored that Lamb would be leaving Bishop Louglin High School for Oak Hill Academy.
Lamb's answer was: "I don't know right now. I don't know right now."
Time and time again. That was his answer. Lamb said he is currently enrolled at Bishop Loughlin but will do whatever his mother wants him to do.
"It's her decision. Whatever my mom says is what I'll do," Lamb simply said.
Recruiting is in the same boat for the shooting guard. Lamb said he isn't spending time thinking about where he'll go for college but he's listening to those that want to reach out so far.
St. John's, Syracuse, Georgetown, Duke, Xavier, Rutgers, Marquette, Kansas, Pittsburgh, Memphis and Louisville are showing interest. The only real revelation Lamb offered up last weekend was what school he thought highly of.
"My dream school is Syracuse. I like Carmelo Anthony," Lamb said.
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somebody better tell him carmelo anthony isn't there anymore.
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this guy is an absolute stud.
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This kid has no idea what he wants. One minute he says he doesn't know the next he says Syracuse is his dream school and here he says if he had to sign today he'd choose Louisville.
http://northstarbasketball.blogspot.com/2008/04/doron-lamb-heading-to-big-east.html
NB: If someone put a Letter of Intent in front of you right now and said you had to sign now, who would you sign with?
DL: I think I would go with Louisville.
NB: Why Louisville?
DL: Because I got my friends over there, Edgar [Sosa] and Derrick Caracter. I’m cool with them, . . . and I like [Head Coach] Rick Pitino, and I like [the] staff. So, I think I would go there.
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This kid has no idea what he wants. One minute he says he doesn't know the next he says Syracuse is his dream school and here he says if he had to sign today he'd choose Louisville.
http://northstarbasketball.blogspot.com/2008/04/doron-lamb-heading-to-big-east.html
NB: If someone put a Letter of Intent in front of you right now and said you had to sign now, who would you sign with?
DL: I think I would go with Louisville.
NB: Why Louisville?
DL: Because I got my friends over there, Edgar [Sosa] and Derrick Caracter. I’m cool with them, . . . and I like [Head Coach] Rick Pitino, and I like [the] staff. So, I think I would go there.
How friendly is he with Caracter? Caracter is long gone
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maybe he never got offered by syracuse so that's why he'd pick 'ville?
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Maybe cause hes 16 and thats how 16 year ol kids think.
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Maybe cause hes 16 and thats how 16 year ol kids think.
Haha I'd have to agree. It must be pretty cool to have a bunch of colleges knocking on your door for your services to play a game.
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This kid has no idea what he wants. One minute he says he doesn't know the next he says Syracuse is his dream school and here he says if he had to sign today he'd choose Louisville.
http://northstarbasketball.blogspot.com/2008/04/doron-lamb-heading-to-big-east.html
NB: If someone put a Letter of Intent in front of you right now and said you had to sign now, who would you sign with?
DL: I think I would go with Louisville.
NB: Why Louisville?
DL: Because I got my friends over there, Edgar [Sosa] and Derrick Caracter. I’m cool with them, . . . and I like [Head Coach] Rick Pitino, and I like [the] staff. So, I think I would go there.
How friendly is he with Caracter? Caracter is long gone
If he breaks his knee, he's not exactly going to be a neurosurgeon.
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LeBron: Day Three Rundown
By Evan Daniels
Posted July 9, 2008
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/767925.html
"St. John's head coach Norm Roberts spent the day following Durand Scott and Doron Lamb."
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LeBron: Day Three Rundown
By Evan Daniels
Posted July 9, 2008
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/767925.html
"St. John's head coach Norm Roberts spent the day following Durand Scott and Doron Lamb."
NICE. :D
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apparently Doron will be transferring to Oak Hill next year
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apparently Doron will be transferring to Oak Hill next year
Not to St Anthonys?
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http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/07/21/louisville-after-scott-lamb/#more-684
As for the 6-4, 175-pound Lamb, he is ranked No. 9 among shooting guards in the Class of 2010.
“Louisville, UConn, St. John’s and Georgia Tech are recruiting him the hardest,†Loughlin coach Khalid Green said.
The coach added that Lamb “can be a triple threat. He can play the 1, 2 and 3 and he can definitely lead the Catholic League in scoring and I think he’s an MVP-type. I think he can be MVP of the league
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From Super Showcase in Orlando, FL
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=830304
"Playing with the 16 and 17 teams, Doron Lamb looked a little tired at the end of the day, but certainly at the beginning he wasn't. In the 16 and under semi finals, Lamb had 28 points and scored in every way imaginable."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=3504715
Doron Lamb, SG (6-4, 180)
2010, New York, N.Y./Oak Hill
Lamb has a long, lean body, is a good athlete and is very talented offensively. He can score in bunches when motivated and sprints the lane in transition. He can get to the rim, shoot the floater driving to his left or the 3 when the defense is not set. He moves well without the ball in the halfcourt and does a good job of cutting after he passes. He also curls into the lane off screens.
Lamb is an excellent ball handler, passer and driver who makes good decisions on the break and in the halfcourt. He handles the ball with his head and eyes up and is always surveying the court and has a good mid-range game as well. He reads the defense and flashes across the lane for the 12-15 foot turn shot. He has good elevation and extension and a good, high release and follow-through. He likes to use the step-back jumper driving to his left to create space to get the shot off. He can also go to the left-to-right crossover to get to the rim and will use the inside-out move when he is attacking at high speeds in transition. Lamb is a good, not great shooter from behind the arc but can keep the defense honest. He can draw fouls and get to the free throw line where he has a nice touch. The strength of his game lies inside the arc with creative drives, pull ups and turn shots.
On defense he needs to get in a stance and play with urgency. He gets beat on drives and loses sight of the ball. He needs to get stronger so he can finish better through contact and become a consistent rebounder. At times he seems to shut down and not be into the game, and then he'll turn up his intensity and become the best player on the floor. Lamb must learn to play hard every possession -- his overall talent is undeniable.
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STAR POWER
With a number of the top players simply running out of gas in the last hours of the evaluation period, there are a few guys that continue to play with good energy and competitiveness. New York Gauchos guard Doron Lamb is one of them.
The class of 2010 guard scored 24 points in the Gauchos win over Florida's Gold Coast team. The 6-foot-4 guard has been the best player for the New Yorkers this week in Orlando and is closing the summer out equally as well as he started the spring evaluation period.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=832469
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Lamb Says It's Official
August 3, 2008
Stacey Davis, NYCHoops.net
http://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=833086
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/1193/603368.jpg)
The unexpected or expected has finally happened, depending on who you ask. According to several rumors, there were whispers that Bishop Loughlin's 6-4 point guard Doron Lamb would leave for his school in Brooklyn, NY.
Originally, NYCHoops spoke with Lamb in June when he attended St. Johns Team Camp and asked him would he be returning to Bishop Loughlin or transferring to Oak Hill. Lamb originally denied the rumor and responded by saying, "No, I am not leaving my school, I will return to Bishop Loughlin, and I am not going to Oak Hill."
However, during AAU Nationals in Orlando, FL last week, Lamb was spotted wearing a shirt that read 'Oak Hill' so once again NYCHoops questioned the star sophomore about his plans.
In a telephone interview with Lamb today, when asked will he be leaving Bishop Loughlin, he finally confirmed exclusively to NYC Hoops saying, "Yes, I will attend Oak Hill Academy."
Lamb, one of the most highly recruited sophomores in the country, says he has received offers from Georgia Tech, Louisville, Rutgers, and Xavier. He also has interest from Connecticut, Seton Hall, St. Johns, and Syracuse.
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http://proxy.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=3646885
• Highly rated 2010 prospect, 6-5 2G Doron Lamb of Oak Hill Academy played in the second period like the Doron Lamb that was so impressive this past spring and summer. He did not scratch in the first period, but had 13 points helping Oak Hill build their lead in the second. Lamb displayed his athleticism, quick slashing abilities, and the versatility that has drawn the interest of many major colleges, including Connecticut, Wake Forest, Memphis, Virginia Tech, Duke, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Seton Hall, Syracuse, St. John's, Maryland, Marquette, et. al.
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daily news says lamb was at the miami game talking with looie.
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Yep. Always a good sign...
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Fingers crossed, I hope we have a chance. Lamb doesn't seem like he'll be a one-and-done. I think folks have too many hopes pinned on Lance, who is a one man gang. He's impressive, but one man for one year won't build a program or get this program back to respectability, no matter who the coach is.
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Fingers crossed, I hope we have a chance. Lamb doesn't seem like he'll be a one-and-done. I think folks have too many hopes pinned on Lance, who is a one man gang. He's impressive, but one man for one year won't build a program or get this program back to respectability, no matter who the coach is.
Yes but we could have Lance and Lamb using the same scholarship.
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This would be great...but what leads anyone to believe we could land BOTH of these guys given the track record? Lance is the key. If Lance comes and does well other guys will want to come here even if Lance leaves, bc theyll see what kind of exposure he can get and how the fans turn out. We need the first impact player though, and I feel like Lance is the best shot, if he doesnt pave the way, others won't come - at least under Norm.
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Yep. Always a good sign...
Do either of the two new members of our staff have a connection with Doron ?
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Fingers crossed, I hope we have a chance. Lamb doesn't seem like he'll be a one-and-done. I think folks have too many hopes pinned on Lance, who is a one man gang. He's impressive, but one man for one year won't build a program or get this program back to respectability, no matter who the coach is.
Yes but we could have Lance and Lamb using the same scholarship.
If this is a question... The answer is yes. Because Lance will be a one and done. Which will then free up the scholarship for Lamb.
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Yep. Always a good sign...
Do either of the two new members of our staff have a connection with Doron ?
Not sure, but I'll find out. Doron played with the Gauchos AAU program, while Oz coached the Long Island Lightning and NY Panthers in the past while Kimani coached New Heights.
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I heard he's in no rush to decide.
He'll be playing with the Gauchos and tries to catch up with his ex-BL teammates on the road because he can't get service at Oak Hill.
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I heard he's in no rush to decide.
He'll be playing with the Gauchos and tries to catch up with his ex-BL teammates on the road because he can't get service at Oak Hill.
Home sick? Hopefully he comes home for his college years.
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Do we have a chance at getting this dude?
*prays*
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http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/06/14/rumble-in-the-bronx-day-two-part-ii/ (http://w3.nbebasketball.com/2009/06/14/rumble-in-the-bronx-day-two-part-ii/)
Doron Lamb would tell NBE that Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma, St. John’s, Connecticut, Louisville, Arizona, UCLA and Rutgers were schools in the mix. He has visited Louisville and plans to see Kentucky, Kansas and Oklahoma in the relatively near future.
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he and gilchrist are my two fav players in hs to watch
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http://www.stjohns.rivals.com/default.asp (http://www.stjohns.rivals.com/default.asp)
Lamb Visits St. John's
by Maurice Wingate
Doron Lamb, a 5-Star Rivals.com shooting guard, recently competed in the Rumble in the Bronx Tournament this past weekend. The rising senior played well even though his NY Gauchos team was eliminated in the quarterfinals to a skill Team Florida squad. While in New York City, Lamb took in the sights of the city. [details]
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http://www.stjohns.rivals.com/default.asp (http://www.stjohns.rivals.com/default.asp)
Lamb Visits St. John's
by Maurice Wingate
Doron Lamb, a 5-Star Rivals.com shooting guard, recently competed in the Rumble in the Bronx Tournament this past weekend. The rising senior played well even though his NY Gauchos team was eliminated in the quarterfinals to a skill Team Florida squad. While in New York City, Lamb took in the sights of the city. [details]
Billy Singleton and Oz Cross were there as spectators watching him this weekend.
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Do we actually have a shot or is this gonna be Lance number 2?
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it would be more like a syl pt 2 then a lance.
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Do we actually have a shot or is this gonna be Lance number 2?
Well I think we have a strong chance if we can get Jayvaughn to commit early, we win early in the season, and if all goes according to plan then we worry about how we get the scholarship. Doron is definitely worth it, I like him a lot.
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it would be more like a syl pt 2 then a lance.
you got my drift though.
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
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Ample playing time, to stay at home, hero/ messiah complex. There are reasons to go to St. John's, even if the current staff hasn't been able to close the deal.
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
What is Omari? Wasnt Burrell top 50?
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
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Well the only spots I can see open for a lot of PT next year would be C & PG
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
Next time we land one, someone should ask. By high level i assume you mean top 20.
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
Next time we land one, someone should ask. By high level i assume you mean top 20.
haha, nice.
In truth, a top 20 player with his head on straight and a modicum of defensive ability would be in the starting lineup and carrying the team pretty quickly. If you don't believe me, well, we're not crossing that bridge this year so you can't challenge that assertion with fact!!!
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
Next time we land one, someone should ask. By high level i assume you mean top 20.
haha, nice.
In truth, a top 20 player with his head on straight and a modicum of defensive ability would be in the starting lineup and carrying the team pretty quickly. If you don't believe me, well, we're not crossing that bridge this year so you can't challenge that assertion with fact!!!
Peter, i believe you! But the waiting is killing me
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
1. I enjoyed watching our team at times last season.
2. 10 years past has nothing to do with next
3. win and the place will be packed
4. Chapel Hill ain't exactly Madison Square Garden
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
1. I enjoyed watching our team at times last season.
2. 10 years past has nothing to do with next
3. win and the place will be packed
4. Chapel Hill ain't exactly Madison Square Garden
of course there were moments that were enjoyable last season. there were also moments where we didn't score for 10 min at a time, like once a game.
If you don't think being able to get kids to the next level affects their college choice then your missing something.
when a recruit comes to a game at MSG and there are 5k people there, what do you think goes through their mind?
I guess you've never been to Chapel Hill. Step on campus, you'll understand.
PMG original question was why would a top recruit come to SJU. No one gave a reason. i don't want to hear the ressurect the program/messaih routine. The top NYC player with the biggest messiah complex in the world told us to take a hike.
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
1. I enjoyed watching our team at times last season.
2. 10 years past has nothing to do with next
3. win and the place will be packed
4. Chapel Hill ain't exactly Madison Square Garden
of course there were moments that were enjoyable last season. there were also moments where we didn't score for 10 min at a time, like once a game.
If you don't think being able to get kids to the next level affects their college choice then your missing something.
when a recruit comes to a game at MSG and there are 5k people there, what do you think goes through their mind?
I guess you've never been to Chapel Hill. Step on campus, you'll understand.
PMG original question was why would a top recruit come to SJU. No one gave a reason. i don't want to hear the ressurect the program/messaih routine. The top NYC player with the biggest messiah complex in the world told us to take a hike.
Peter gave answers before but we can go over more again. Playing time, Big East conference, New York, media, exposure, resources, nice on campus living facilities, tradition, madison square garden, current players on roster all upperclassman. This is off the top of my head but we can think of more things.
I don't see the reason to stir up discussion on why recruits shouldn't pick St. John's.
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With so many reasons i'm amazed no top recruits come. Not trying to bash anything or stir up controvery, but PMG brought up a valid point. I hope one day (and soon), they want to come here again. I don't think it will be to play for NR though. Because when you get right down to it, the studs go to schools for the coach. End of story.
Oh Yeah, you asked the question. "Why wouldn't a top recruit come to St.John's" didn't you
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
1. I enjoyed watching our team at times last season.
2. 10 years past has nothing to do with next
3. win and the place will be packed
4. Chapel Hill ain't exactly Madison Square Garden
of course there were moments that were enjoyable last season. there were also moments where we didn't score for 10 min at a time, like once a game.
If you don't think being able to get kids to the next level affects their college choice then your missing something.
when a recruit comes to a game at MSG and there are 5k people there, what do you think goes through their mind?
I guess you've never been to Chapel Hill. Step on campus, you'll understand.
PMG original question was why would a top recruit come to SJU. No one gave a reason. i don't want to hear the ressurect the program/messaih routine. The top NYC player with the biggest messiah complex in the world told us to take a hike.
Peter gave answers before but we can go over more again. Playing time, Big East conference, New York, media, exposure, resources, nice on campus living facilities, tradition, madison square garden, current players on roster all upperclassman. This is off the top of my head but we can think of more things.
I don't see the reason to stir up discussion on why recruits shouldn't pick St. John's.
Playing time: Not unique to STJ, and every top player believes, rightly or wrongly that they'll get their playing time anywhere and almost every coach allows their recruits to believe that.
Big East conference: That's great but pretty much every big recruit STJ gets mentioned with has 3-4 other BE teams on their radar
New York: This is true, would be more true if the school weren't in Jamaica and so far from what 99% of the world considers New York City
Media / Exp: National media in sports now doesn't revolve around the Big Apple. Countless teams get more coverage than STJ and one top recruit wouldn't change that.
Resources: Amongst the lowest of all BCS schools
Nice on campus living facilities: Equal to most big time schools at best
Tradition: Well if you do a Clockwork Orange tie down eyes open thing and make today's kids read the coffee table book or watch the video then they might believe you, but probably not
Madison square garden: Relatively inarguable so I won't waste my time
Current players on roster all upperclassman: Not unique to STJ and not a regular occurence.
Effectively all your points are valid if STJ is going against Manhattan, LaSalle or Stony Brook for a player but that's not where STJ should be fishing.
However a good coach and recruiter should be able to take your line semi-falsehoods and hyperbole and sell it to a kid. Norm has been unable to do so. Need someone who can if this year's team doesn't win - which also cures a lot of ills.
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I've been to a ton of schools and St. John's dorms are all bigger, newer, and nicer in almost every aspect. This is one thing I must compliment St. John's on.
Media coverage: we have 2 sports radio stations, multiple newspapers, multiple online places to discuss hoops, MSG, SNY, YES, etc. Maybe some people don't realize all over the country coverage isn't like that and take it for granted.
Resources are plentiful mostly due to the fact of being in New York. Perhaps again some people take that for granted.
Current players being upperclassmen in the Big East this holds true for us for the 2010/2011 class which is what we're gearing discussion to.
I'm not trying to make St. John's out to be the best thing out there or overhype it but I don't get the point of trying to make St. John's sound like a less attractive choice for a top recruit. Recruits do read the site.
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of course there were moments that were enjoyable last season. there were also moments where we didn't score for 10 min at a time, like once a game.
If you don't think being able to get kids to the next level affects their college choice then your missing something.
when a recruit comes to a game at MSG and there are 5k people there, what do you think goes through their mind?
I guess you've never been to Chapel Hill. Step on campus, you'll understand.
PMG original question was why would a top recruit come to SJU. No one gave a reason. i don't want to hear the ressurect the program/messaih routine. The top NYC player with the biggest messiah complex in the world told us to take a hike.
I'm not aiming this at making St. John's look better or worse. All of those factors (especially the losses, more than the lack of scoring) - and the lack of on-campus atmosphere (and boosters) play into why recruits don't want to come here. But the reasons I stated are probably why recruits even consider the school, and you can't discount them as possibilities.
Maybe Lance doesn't have a messiah complex; maybe he's over carrying a team. I don't know. These are just factors pro and con; without some winning and some sense that a coach can get a player to the next level, the pluses go for naught. I do believe that if the team can string together a year or two of winning seasons, more recruits will come. Personally, I think some changes need to be made for that to happen, but I think it's foolish to make this out to be some entirely un-recruit appealing place.
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St. John's media coverage has sucked the last few years. Hell, 25% of the games aren't even televised anymore. This was never the case in past years. All the games except maybe 1 or 2 were easily found on TV.
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Look: what I am saying here in part is that there is a lot to sell at St. John's. I do hope that if there isn't a 20-win team on the floor this year, they change the staff; that doesn't change the fact that there is a lot to sell. The chance to join a winning squad is a great help to recruiting, of course.
We should get this topic back on Doron Lamb. Reasons whether or not to come to St. John's can be a topic on its own.
Here's a question: spectacular or not, is another guard what the team needs, especially going into 2011? I would say a spectacular talent is always welcome, even if they have to make 4-guard lineups to work Doron Lamb in.
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Look: what I am saying here in part is that there is a lot to sell at St. John's. I do hope that if there isn't a 20-win team on the floor this year, they change the staff; that doesn't change the fact that there is a lot to sell. The chance to join a winning squad is a great help to recruiting, of course.
We should get this topic back on Doron Lamb. Reasons whether or not to come to St. John's can be a topic on its own.
Here's a question: spectacular or not, is another guard what the team needs, especially going into 2011? I would say a spectacular talent is always welcome, even if they have to make 4-guard lineups to work Doron Lamb in.
If he's that talented, bring him in, regardless of position. We are in no position to be picky at this point. I apologize for diverting the thread from topic. My intention was not put down SJU at all, just to answer a question posed by another poster.
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winning changes everything. Potential at St. John's is huge.
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No worries, boo. These are all valid points.
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I've been to a ton of schools and St. John's dorms are all bigger, newer, and nicer in almost every aspect. This is one thing I must compliment St. John's on.
Media coverage: we have 2 sports radio stations, multiple newspapers, multiple online places to discuss hoops, MSG, SNY, YES, etc. Maybe some people don't realize all over the country coverage isn't like that and take it for granted.
Resources are plentiful mostly due to the fact of being in New York. Perhaps again some people take that for granted.
Current players being upperclassmen in the Big East this holds true for us for the 2010/2011 class which is what we're gearing discussion to.
I'm not trying to make St. John's out to be the best thing out there or overhype it but I don't get the point of trying to make St. John's sound like a less attractive choice for a top recruit. Recruits do read the site.
All your points are valid strengths just not significant advantages over other schools.
Most big schools have special dorms/suites for hoops players, I'm sure they compete with SJU and SJU with them but it's not a significant advantage. And with regard to the campus life just outside the doors of these dorms SJU is lacking substantially compared to most of the schools they should be recruiting against.
Pretty much every major city in America has two sports radio stations, we have three, and the sports programming on cable is plentiful but yes there are a couple NY centric sports cable brands so you got me there. But like it or not ESPN rules the sports airwaves - both TV and to a lesser extent radio - nationally. SJU being in NY certainly doesn't hurt but NY media isn't breaking down Monasch's door for opportunities to cover SJU.
Resource wise I agree if SJU showed any competency in leveraging the NYC for corporate sponsorship dollars this would be an advantage but they don't. I thought you were talking about resources of the school both direct and through boosters and these are two areas SJU doesn't compete.
I agree there are plenty of reasons to play at SJU and there is a lot of potential but if, as you said, this team doesn't win a bunch this year and show they can be competitive on the court and establish Norm as a coach kids might want to play for the other factors are immaterial. And sorry for discussing more about the long term implications of the factors, realize it's on a 2010 recruits thread but thought we had evolved to a more general discussion.
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I've been to a ton of schools and St. John's dorms are all bigger, newer, and nicer in almost every aspect. This is one thing I must compliment St. John's on.
Media coverage: we have 2 sports radio stations, multiple newspapers, multiple online places to discuss hoops, MSG, SNY, YES, etc. Maybe some people don't realize all over the country coverage isn't like that and take it for granted.
Resources are plentiful mostly due to the fact of being in New York. Perhaps again some people take that for granted.
Current players being upperclassmen in the Big East this holds true for us for the 2010/2011 class which is what we're gearing discussion to.
I'm not trying to make St. John's out to be the best thing out there or overhype it but I don't get the point of trying to make St. John's sound like a less attractive choice for a top recruit. Recruits do read the site.
All your points are valid strengths just not significant advantages over other schools.
Most big schools have special dorms/suites for hoops players, I'm sure they compete with SJU and SJU with them but it's not a significant advantage. And with regard to the campus life just outside the doors of these dorms SJU is lacking substantially compared to most of the schools they should be recruiting against.
Pretty much every major city in America has two sports radio stations, we have three, and the sports programming on cable is plentiful but yes there are a couple NY centric sports cable brands so you got me there. But like it or not ESPN rules the sports airwaves - both TV and to a lesser extent radio - nationally. SJU being in NY certainly doesn't hurt but NY media isn't breaking down Monasch's door for opportunities to cover SJU.
Resource wise I agree if SJU showed any competency in leveraging the NYC for corporate sponsorship dollars this would be an advantage but they don't. I thought you were talking about resources of the school both direct and through boosters and these are two areas SJU doesn't compete.
I agree there are plenty of reasons to play at SJU and there is a lot of potential but if, as you said, this team doesn't win a bunch this year and show they can be competitive on the court and establish Norm as a coach kids might want to play for the other factors are immaterial. And sorry for discussing more about the long term implications of the factors, realize it's on a 2010 recruits thread but thought we had evolved to a more general discussion.
Our opinions are very similar. I think we can improve and St. John's has potential to be a better school and program. Whether we tap into that potential or not is another question. It's something I've been waiting on for a while and we're slowly moving in the right direction.
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http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=21842 (http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=21842)
- Doron Lamb on UK’s staff: “I like the coaching staff. They have two New York guys and one Oak Hill guy and the coach is good, he makes pros.â€
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http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=21842 (http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=21842)
- Doron Lamb on UK’s staff: “I like the coaching staff. They have two New York guys and one Oak Hill guy and the coach is good, he makes pros.â€
This is the kind of stuff that will haunt this staff. There is no argument. OUCH!
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http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=21842 (http://new.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=21842)
- Doron Lamb on UK’s staff: “I like the coaching staff. They have two New York guys and one Oak Hill guy and the coach is good, he makes pros.â€
This is the kind of stuff that will haunt this staff. There is no argument. OUCH!
It won't matter. After six years of, at best, nearly mediocre basketball, there are so few fans left. They've outlasted all but the die hards.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/06/20/lamb-says-kentucky-among-favorites/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/06/20/lamb-says-kentucky-among-favorites/)
New York City star Doron Lamb says Kentucky will be among his Final Five when it comes time to take visits.
“I have a good relationship with [assistant] coach [Orlando] Antigua and [Rod] Strickland,†the 6-foot-5 Lamb told Jody Demling of the Louisville Courier Journal. “Coach [John] Calipari called me, and we talked a long time. He’s a good guy; they’ll be in my final five for sure.
“They make pros, and that’s what I want to be.â€
Lamb left Bishop Loughlin before last season and now plays at Oak Hill Academy. He is ranked the No. 5 shooting guard in the Class of 2010.
Rivals lists him as holding offers from Arizona, Georgia Tech, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville, Pitt, Rutgers, St. John’s and Xavier.
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(http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif) Not looking good.
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(http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif) Not looking good.
please explain
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I think that's in reference to Kentucky's involvement.
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(http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif) Not looking good.
please explain
“They make pros, and that’s what I want to be.â€
ST.John's doesn't!
that's how i read it.
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
1. I enjoyed watching our team at times last season.
2. 10 years past has nothing to do with next
3. win and the place will be packed
4. Chapel Hill ain't exactly Madison Square Garden
1. No one cares what you personally, the creator of st johns coolest fan website, enjoyed.
2. 10 years might not have anything to do with next, but the last 2 do.
3. you can say that about any college anywhere
4. Chapel Hill is an amazing college town where kids from the city would love to go for a few years. Kids play in MSG in HIGH school now, it doesn't have the same allure, and the Knicks suck. Other schools play in pro arenas as well.
PMG is totally right - why would a top 20 recruit make a leap of faith in Norm based on nothing to come here?
You know why they don't come here?
1. Norm runs a boring, ineffective offense.
2. No players have had success in the NBA since a FRASCHILLA recruit.
3. We aren't an NCAA caliber team - yet.
All kids care about are 1) the NBA, 2) winning, and 3) playing in a fun offense and showing off their talents.
We haven't done any of that yet. If this class of 9 juniors can pull it together and Norm can get a clue/improve, then I won't feel the same way and would think it was very possible for Norm to get top talent despite not getting it yet. But there is NO reason, as of now, for a top 20 recruit to come here over Duke, UNC, Kansas, Georgetown, UCLA, USC, Maryland, Georgia Tech, or a whole hoard of other schools who have at least one of those factors that we don't have. Simple as that.
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
1. I enjoyed watching our team at times last season.
2. 10 years past has nothing to do with next
3. win and the place will be packed
4. Chapel Hill ain't exactly Madison Square Garden
1. No one cares what you personally, the creator of st johns coolest fan website, enjoyed.
2. 10 years might not have anything to do with next, but the last 2 do.
3. you can say that about any college anywhere
4. Chapel Hill is an amazing college town where kids from the city would love to go for a few years. Kids play in MSG in HIGH school now, it doesn't have the same allure, and the Knicks suck. Other schools play in pro arenas as well.
PMG is totally right - why would a top 20 recruit make a leap of faith in Norm based on nothing to come here?
You know why they don't come here?
1. Norm runs a boring, ineffective offense.
2. No players have had success in the NBA since a FRASCHILLA recruit.
3. We aren't an NCAA caliber team - yet.
All kids care about are 1) the NBA, 2) winning, and 3) playing in a fun offense and showing off their talents.
We haven't done any of that yet. If this class of 9 juniors can pull it together and Norm can get a clue/improve, then I won't feel the same way and would think it was very possible for Norm to get top talent despite not getting it yet. But there is NO reason, as of now, for a top 20 recruit to come here over Duke, UNC, Kansas, Georgetown, UCLA, USC, Maryland, Georgia Tech, or a whole hoard of other schools who have at least one of those factors that we don't have. Simple as that.
Plus, they get $$$,Jeeps,no show jobs along with other perks to go to some of those schools. Thats a factor also
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I don't see the reason to stir up discussion on why recruits shouldn't pick St. John's.
Yeah, you would rather sit there with blinders on, wave your POM POM's and chant: "Normie Normie he's our man, if he can't do it no one can"
The truth hurts and the truth about St. John's right now is that its an incredibly inferior basketball school with an inferior coaching staff and zero track record of success or producing NBA caliber players.
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
1. I enjoyed watching our team at times last season.
2. 10 years past has nothing to do with next
3. win and the place will be packed
4. Chapel Hill ain't exactly Madison Square Garden
1. No one cares what you personally, the creator of st johns coolest fan website, enjoyed.
2. 10 years might not have anything to do with next, but the last 2 do.
3. you can say that about any college anywhere
4. Chapel Hill is an amazing college town where kids from the city would love to go for a few years. Kids play in MSG in HIGH school now, it doesn't have the same allure, and the Knicks suck. Other schools play in pro arenas as well.
PMG is totally right - why would a top 20 recruit make a leap of faith in Norm based on nothing to come here?
You know why they don't come here?
1. Norm runs a boring, ineffective offense.
2. No players have had success in the NBA since a FRASCHILLA recruit.
3. We aren't an NCAA caliber team - yet.
All kids care about are 1) the NBA, 2) winning, and 3) playing in a fun offense and showing off their talents.
We haven't done any of that yet. If this class of 9 juniors can pull it together and Norm can get a clue/improve, then I won't feel the same way and would think it was very possible for Norm to get top talent despite not getting it yet. But there is NO reason, as of now, for a top 20 recruit to come here over Duke, UNC, Kansas, Georgetown, UCLA, USC, Maryland, Georgia Tech, or a whole hoard of other schools who have at least one of those factors that we don't have. Simple as that.
Damn somone has a serious case of the Mondays today.
I do enjoy our team. Do I wish they were better? Hell yea I do but they are definitely a team you can root for and hope they do well. This has nothing to do with pro/anti Norm feelings.
MSG is a special place. Maybe it hasn't been for a while but its like a sleeping giant. Saying this takes nothing away from Chapel Hill or other places to play. Maybe MSG has pimped itself out too much but there is something about NYC magic, bright lights, and millions of people that gets you going.
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I don't see the reason to stir up discussion on why recruits shouldn't pick St. John's.
Yeah, you would rather sit there with blinders on, wave your POM POM's and chant: "Normie Normie he's our man, if he can't do it no one can"
The truth hurts and the truth about St. John's right now is that its an incredibly inferior basketball school with an inferior coaching staff and zero track record of success or producing NBA caliber players.
Yup thats what we do here. ::)
Why you still try to diminish things that go on here are beyond me. Of course some people are going to think differently on things but I know the underlining tone of this site is generally moderate.
Recruits read this site whether you like to believe it or not. I'm not one that wants to volunteer multiple reasons why they shouldn't come here and go elsewhere. I'm not sure what fan of St. John's would want to steer recruits away from here? Do you?
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if you are a high level recruit at this point. . why would you come to St. John's..?
why wouldn't you want to come to St. John's?
just playing devils advocate here:
1. Horrific brand of basketball to both play and watch
2. Been almost 10years since program has produced a pro.
3. sparse crowds.
4. Jaimaca ain't exactly Chapel Hill
1. I enjoyed watching our team at times last season.
2. 10 years past has nothing to do with next
3. win and the place will be packed
4. Chapel Hill ain't exactly Madison Square Garden
1. No one cares what you personally, the creator of st johns coolest fan website, enjoyed.
2. 10 years might not have anything to do with next, but the last 2 do.
3. you can say that about any college anywhere
4. Chapel Hill is an amazing college town where kids from the city would love to go for a few years. Kids play in MSG in HIGH school now, it doesn't have the same allure, and the Knicks suck. Other schools play in pro arenas as well.
PMG is totally right - why would a top 20 recruit make a leap of faith in Norm based on nothing to come here?
You know why they don't come here?
1. Norm runs a boring, ineffective offense.
2. No players have had success in the NBA since a FRASCHILLA recruit.
3. We aren't an NCAA caliber team - yet.
All kids care about are 1) the NBA, 2) winning, and 3) playing in a fun offense and showing off their talents.
We haven't done any of that yet. If this class of 9 juniors can pull it together and Norm can get a clue/improve, then I won't feel the same way and would think it was very possible for Norm to get top talent despite not getting it yet. But there is NO reason, as of now, for a top 20 recruit to come here over Duke, UNC, Kansas, Georgetown, UCLA, USC, Maryland, Georgia Tech, or a whole hoard of other schools who have at least one of those factors that we don't have. Simple as that.
Damn somone has a serious case of the Mondays today.
I do enjoy our team. Do I wish they were better? Hell yea I do but they are definitely a team you can root for and hope they do well. This has nothing to do with pro/anti Norm feelings.
MSG is a special place. Maybe it hasn't been for a while but its like a sleeping giant. Saying this takes nothing away from Chapel Hill or other places to play. Maybe MSG has pimped itself out too much but there is something about NYC magic, bright lights, and millions of people that gets you going.
It's not a case of the Mondays. Why would a recruit come here? MSG hasn't been special in NBA or college in nearly a decade. Honestly a lot of MSG's magic was with boxing and concerts as well. MSG hasn't had a halfway decent team in forever. I'm sorry but basketball arenas don't do it for me like baseball stadiums do. I don't get the same prickly feeling when I walk into Fenway and see the grasss --- hell I hate the Yankees but I even got the feeling there (at the old staidum) that it was a hollowed place where magic happened. Perhaps it's because it's just dormant, but I just don't get that feeling at MSG --- and if I don't, you better believe these 15-18 year olds don't,.
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I don't see the reason to stir up discussion on why recruits shouldn't pick St. John's.
Yeah, you would rather sit there with blinders on, wave your POM POM's and chant: "Normie Normie he's our man, if he can't do it no one can"
The truth hurts and the truth about St. John's right now is that its an incredibly inferior basketball school with an inferior coaching staff and zero track record of success or producing NBA caliber players.
Yup thats what we do here. ::)
Why you still try to diminish things that go on here are beyond me. Of course some people are going to think differently on things but I know the underlining tone of this site is generally moderate.
Recruits read this site whether you like to believe it or not. I'm not one that wants to volunteer multiple reasons why they shouldn't come here and go elsewhere. I'm not sure what fan of St. John's would want to steer recruits away from here? Do you?
Recruits have a billion people in their ear. Trust me. They are not reading what I am writing for the first time if they do indeed read their site.
They know very well that Norm has produced 0 NBA players so far, St. John's hasn't won - yet - and our offense sucks.
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I don't see the reason to stir up discussion on why recruits shouldn't pick St. John's.
Yeah, you would rather sit there with blinders on, wave your POM POM's and chant: "Normie Normie he's our man, if he can't do it no one can"
The truth hurts and the truth about St. John's right now is that its an incredibly inferior basketball school with an inferior coaching staff and zero track record of success or producing NBA caliber players.
There's truth... and then there's your imagination: "Normie Normie he's our man." Ohhh-kay. Don't piss all over the points you have to make (and your perspective) with some s$#t that's not true.
Talk fact. Ditch the name calling and false characterizations.
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and another one bites the dust.
"I think it will be my last game in New York, so I just came out here and played hard for my fans. Everybody in my family was here," said Lamb, a 6-foot-4 Queens, N.Y. native who is entering his senior season at Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy.
Lamb listed Kentucky, Kansas, Oklahoma, Marquette, UConn, Pittsburgh and Arizona as potential destinations.
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I missed him at the Elite 24, I heard he had a good game but I was at the Nike TOC & i wasn't impressed by him,Russ Smith on the other hand looked really good.I have not seen Russ play in 3 years before todays game
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I remember reading here that Smith was a "combo" guard ?
& boarderline BE player while @ Molloy.
Is he a BE point ?
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Russ plays like SirValiant Brown from George Washington, Na more like Nate Rob.Far from a pure PG
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/Lamb-can-Score-31422 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/Lamb-can-Score-31422)
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/09/17/doron-lamb-considering-a-few-schools/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/09/17/doron-lamb-considering-a-few-schools/)
St. John’s head coach Norm Roberts had an in-home Wednesday night.
“It all went well. They’re hoping Doron stays home. It will be a good thing for him to stay in the city,†Calvin said.
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Is this the kid Norm told would be a backup to Boothe?
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Is this the kid Norm told would be a backup to Boothe?
I assumed that story was referring to Lance.
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"There is a story told of the time this season that Roberts met with a McDonald’s all-American from New York about attending St. John’s. Roberts told the recruit that he would play behind the incumbent, and the recruit’s mother, who was in the meeting, hit the ceiling."
Says this season...my guess is Lamb. I think he's the only McD PG we recruited.
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"There is a story told of the time this season that Roberts met with a McDonald’s all-American from New York about attending St. John’s. Roberts told the recruit that he would play behind the incumbent, and the recruit’s mother, who was in the meeting, hit the ceiling."
Says this season...my guess is Lamb. I think he's the only McD PG we recruited.
It's Pinkston.
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"There is a story told of the time this season that Roberts met with a McDonald’s all-American from New York about attending St. John’s. Roberts told the recruit that he would play behind the incumbent, and the recruit’s mother, who was in the meeting, hit the ceiling."
Says this season...my guess is Lamb. I think he's the only McD PG we recruited.
It's Pinkston.
That's right...I forgot he was a McDAA and for some reason I thought they mentioned it was a PG.
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bump.
I'd hate to leave some of our guards deep on the bench, but a scorer like Lamb, with a playmaker like Kennedy? Oh, I can dream...
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Can anyone pull up this insider article. Talks about Hewitt having the "mojo" to pull in Doron Lamb.
ESPN Insider (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/features/rumors?date=20100325&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2ffeatures%2frumors%3fdate%3d20100325#1749)
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If Hewitt is to be the future Red Storm coach, wouldn't it be possible that he would try to target Doron Lamb, one of few uncommitted top recruits left in the 2010 class? Adam Zagoria of Zagsblog.net spoke with several local AAU and HS coaches and according to one of them, "If I'm the next coach of St. John's, my first call is still to Doron Lamb. I would give him the opportunity. He's an All-American. He's pretty damn good and he's a New York kid."
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AM ETSt. John's Red Storm Top Email Has the coaching carousel stopped whirling at St. John's? The New York Daily News thinks so. The paper is reporting that Georgia Tech coach Paul Hewitt will become head Johnnie on the job.
However, others say that the Daily News may have jumped the gun a little quickly. Jeff Goodman of FoxSports.net tweets that the Hewitt's decision is still pending and he is still debating the move.
If Hewitt is to be the future Red Storm coach, wouldn't it be possible that he would try to target Doron Lamb, one of few uncommitted top recruits left in the 2010 class? Adam Zagoria of Zagsblog.net spoke with several local AAU and HS coaches and according to one of them, "If I'm the next coach of St. John's, my first call is still to Doron Lamb. I would give him the opportunity. He's an All-American. He's pretty damn good and he's a New York kid."
Another uncommitted recruit that could potentially be targeted is Kadeem Jack. Both Jack and Lamb have Arizona on their short list of finalists but since neither has committed yet, there is still a chance they could be swayed by the incoming Red Storm coach with a vision.
Either Jack or Lamb would have an immediate impact for the Johnnies. SJU will have a senior-laden squad in 2010-11 that may shake up the upper echelon of the Big East.
We will keep you updated if we hear any chatter regarding either of the HS seniors.
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Does Lamb want to be a huge star, or would he be happy be one of many?
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Does Lamb want to be a huge star, or would he be happy be one of many?
Would he not want to be part of a Final 4 run in his Freshman year, then be the star of the team after that.
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I know I would be very happy for the future of the program if we were able to get Lamb and somehow keep Roberts and Grace. We would then just need to add at least 1 legit PF/C.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/02/lamb-to-meet-with-st-johns-lavin-leslie-to-visit-uconn/#more-31150 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/02/lamb-to-meet-with-st-johns-lavin-leslie-to-visit-uconn/#more-31150)
Steve Lavin has been on the job at St. John’s less than a week but his arrival appears to already be paying dividends.
According to sources with knowledge, Lavin will meet with prized shooting guard Doron Lamb of Queens after the Final Four.
“Doron and his family will be meeting with Steve Lavin after the Final Four,†a source said. “St. John’s is an option.â€
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Just the fact that he's willing to meet with us shows how much recruits and coaches disliked Norm.
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When does the spring siging period start ?
If they miss that week, do they have to wait till after graduation ?
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Untrue. The recruits and coaches LIKED Norm, they just didn't entrust their players to Norm. I am sure Norm got some words in with Lamb at some point.
But this is where the simple fact of having a new coach with something new to sell can start to make a difference in perception.
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Box of M.E.S.S. Interviews McDonald's All American Doron Lamb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHOpy3Xbkak#)
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WOW!!! If Lavin could convince Doron Lamb & Josh Selby to come to St. John's it would be a big. Really big.
This dynamic scoring back court with Kennedy Burrell, Brownlee, Evans and Coker in the front court would make us a top 10 team.
Only in NY. Big City Big Lights.
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friend of mine knows a lot bout high school prospects and says lamb would prob go somewhere wherehe can start right away..he says its a possibility to come to STJ but he sees him going to WVU or kentucky
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Kentucky's going to get lots of talent - no one's gonna be left to compete for starting jobs!
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Untrue. The recruits and coaches LIKED Norm, they just didn't entrust their players to Norm. I am sure Norm got some words in with Lamb at some point.
But this is where the simple fact of having a new coach with something new to sell can start to make a difference in perception.
This is what I meant, they didn't like him as a coach.
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Lamb of God Lavin to Deliver?
Read More (http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/lamb-of-god-lavin-to-deliver/)
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FWIW
http://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/11499867981 (http://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/11499867981)
Just spoke to Doron Lamb, he denied the report that he was meeting with Steve Lavin...story at NBE Basketball Report momentarily.
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Man, this guy Lavin is working OVERTIME, early! Not going to get to excited though. No guarantee and sort of a long shot that Lamb comes here but we'll see.
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is Lavin meeting with him today?
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Roger Rubin says yes. We'll see if he's right, and we'll see what Doron Lamb is really made of.
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I dont want to get ahead of myself but imagine what landing a elite player who is from the city would do for this program. We want to try to keep the NY/NJ talent in the area and this could be a huge first step. Now I still think its a long shot but if Lavin can pull this off it would be huge for the program. Just the fact that hes considering us is a huge turnaround.
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Not to be a downer but a lot of NY Recruits have given St. John's consideration we just have not landed them.
Getting Doron Lamb & Josh Selby would be a huge turning point for us.
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I hate to be a debbie downer but no where does it say Lamb is considering us. I find it 99.9% doubtful he comes here. However I'd love love love to have him here.
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I hate to be a debbie downer but no where does it say Lamb is considering us.
I just read on redmen that Roger Rubin said they are going to talk today. He wouldnt waste his time talking to us if he had no interest.
http://www (http://www).redmen.com/login/showthread.php?t=41713 (http://redmen.com/login/showthread.php?t=41713)
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He's either meeting with Doron OR one of his advisors. I say this a million times don't believe what you read in papers all the time.
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Not saying hes coming here or even seriously considering it but you said no where does it say that he is considering us so I thought you didn't see this article so I was just providing the link.
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Not saying hes coming here or even seriously considering it but you said no where does it say that he is considering us so I thought you didn't see this article so I was just providing the link.
Am I missing something where does it say he is considering us there? He might not even meet with Lavin.
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Why would they talk if he isnt considering us he gains nothing from it then, thats all im saying. I was just posting what I read thats all. You are the one with the info Im just a fan and a student. If you say you havent heard that hes considering us then thats the truth. Dont want to have an arguement here, love your info and the site.
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Why would they talk if he isnt considering us he gains nothing from it then, thats all im saying. I was just posting what I read thats all. You are the one with the info Im just a fan and a student. If you say you havent heard that hes considering us then thats the truth. Dont want to have an arguement here, love your info and the site.
No argument but I'm just saying from the report given by Rubin there is no indication he's interested in us or even talking to Lavin directly. The article simply doesn't say any of that but tries to paint the portrait in that light.
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Like I said previously, Lamb aint coming,,for sure.
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/10/ohio-states-turner-takes-wooden-honor-over-collins/?sports (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/apr/10/ohio-states-turner-takes-wooden-honor-over-collins/?sports)
Lamb update
Kentucky and Kansas appear to be co-leaders for Doron Lamb, a 6-foot-4 senior guard from Oak Hill Academy in Mouth of Wilson, Va., Oak Hill coach Steve Smith told kentucky.rivals.com.
“He’s kind of torn between the two of them,†Smith told the Web site. “West Virginia is getting there and working hard, but they started a little later (January).
“UConn is trying, Arizona has faded, and Oklahoma is out. I think he kind of favors Kentucky and Kansas right now. In what order? It kind of depends on what day he wakes up and what side of the bed he gets out of. Both look appealing to him, top-five programs in the country,†Smith told the Web site.
Coaches from KU, UK and West Virginia all visited Lamb on Thursday. New St. John’s coach Steve Lavin was due in on Friday.
“If he goes to West Virginia or UConn, his parents could go to a lot more games. But he seems to really like Kentucky and Kansas,†Smith said.
Lamb, who is Rivals.com’s No. 21-ranked player, has said he will announce his choice on TV on April 17 at the Jordan Brand Classic in New York.
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I wonder if we offer this kid a chance to be PG if it will help our chances. I'm not sure other teams will be offering as a PG. Still sounds like a real long shot though.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/13/st-johns-reaches-out-to-doron-lamb/#more-31728 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/13/st-johns-reaches-out-to-doron-lamb/#more-31728)
ZAGSBLOG first reported during the Final Four that St. John’s coach Steve Lavin would reach out to Oak Hill Academy guard Doron Lamb and now it has come to pass.
Calvin Lamb, Doron’s father, said Lavin called him shortly before 3 p.m. Tuesday to express interest in Lamb, the 6-foot-4 shooting guard ranked among the top five nationally in the Class of 2010.
“I just got off the phone with Coach Lavin like five minutes ago,†Calvin said.
“He just talked about the style of play that Doron could come in and start and be a floor general and be a good fit with the nine seniors that they have. He could be the one player that could get them over the hump to the NCAA tournament.â€
Calvin said no meeting with Lavin had been set and that he had to huddle with Doron before making any future plans.
“I gotta talk to my son,†he said.
Lamb, a Queens, N.Y. native, originally said he would announce his college choice Saturday at the Jordan Brand Classic in New York and would choose from among Kentucky, Kansas, Arizona, UConn and West Virginia.
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We're officially out of the Lamb sweepstakes per Zags.
"Doron Lamb also said he`s decided already and will announce Saturday night at MSG "
3 minutes ago via mobile web
Doron Lamb says St Johns came in `too late` and is not in his final 5 #stjbb
5 minutes ago via mobile web
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We're officially out of the Lamb sweepstakes per Zags.
"Doron Lamb also said he`s decided already and will announce Saturday night at MSG "
3 minutes ago via mobile web
Doron Lamb says St Johns came in `too late` and is not in his final 5 #stjbb
5 minutes ago via mobile web
This sucks but realistically I figured Lavin wouldn't be able to land a 5 star kid with little interest with only being on the job a week. I guess we move on and I think Polee out of LA is an interesting prospect.
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"Yea, I mean, St.John's, where are they even located? I've never even heard of them."
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"Yea, I mean, St.John's, where are they even located? I've never even heard of them."
Tongue-in-cheek, eh?
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/doron-lamb-say-hes-decided/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/doron-lamb-say-hes-decided/)
As exclusively reported here earlier this week, St. John’s coach Steve Lavin reached out to Doron’s father, Calvin Lamb, about Doron potentially taking the Johnnies’ last scholarship for 2010.
But Doron said St. John’s came in “too late†to be considered.
“I don’t even know, man. I think it’s too late,†he said. “They tried to reach out to me at Oak Hill. They talked to my parents.â€
A Queens, N.Y. native, Lamb won MVP honors last August at the Boost Mobile Elite 24 game at the Gauchos Gym and hopes to have a similar performance on Saturday.
“Every time I play in New York City in an All-Star Game I always have a good game so I hope I have a good game this Saturday coming up,†he said. “I just want to play in front of my family and friends for the last time in a high school game.â€
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Doron Lamb has made his decision, but St. John’s isn’t a part of it.
Despite the best efforts of new St. John’s coach Steve Lavin’s, the Queens native will not be playing locally, he told reporters today at a media session in advance of Saturday’s Jordan Brand All-American game.
Lamb said he has decided on a school, but won’t make that decision known until Saturday’s game, which will be televised live on ESPN2.
The Red Storm, which reached out to his father, Calvin Lamb, about taking their final scholarship for 2010, failed to make his final five, which is Arizona, Connecticut, Kentucky, Kansas and West Virginia.
“They came in a little too late,†Calvin Lamb said. “He pretty much had his mind made up, or was at least close to it.â€
Lamb said his decision will be based on the quality of program, his relationship with the coach, and which school offers him the best opportunity to play immediately. A 6-foot-4 senior ranked third in the country among shooting guards by Scout.com, Lamb spent the past two seasons at Oak Hill Academy (Va.) after two years at Bishop Loughlin.
The McDonald’s All-American scored 49 points in an 84-81 loss to St. Peter’s Prep in the Primetime Shootout, three points shy of the tournament’s all-time scoring mark set by LeBron James in 2003.
Lamb led Oak Hill to a 29-4 record, seventh in USA Today's national rankings.
“He’s an assassin,†recruiting analyst Tom Konchalski said of the Laurelton, Queens product. “A master of quiet domination. … He’s obviously gonna be a terrific player no matter where he goes.â€
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/queens_lamb_rules_out_st_john_IlU8SrVnQ6mxAvzJtzfXeN#ixzz0lDs40t7S (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/queens_lamb_rules_out_st_john_IlU8SrVnQ6mxAvzJtzfXeN#ixzz0lDs40t7S)
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It was a long long shot but nice effort by the staff.
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Baldi...I think you need to cool the paying off stuff. Its absurd. Some guys get paid, some don't, but when you make accusations yours are totally baseless. What's your motive?
Not every kid who turns down st. john's is because he's being paid, believe it or not. and lots more kids get paid, prob some who have come to st johns (other than keita). dont see your point.
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Baldi...I think you need to cool the paying off stuff. Its absurd. Some guys get paid, some don't, but when you make accusations yours are totally baseless. What's your motive?
Not every kid who turns down st. john's is because he's being paid, believe it or not. and lots more kids get paid, prob some who have come to st johns (other than keita). dont see your point.
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"[Kentucky coach John Calipari] is good with guards, he's a guard coach," the 6-foot-4 Lamb, out of Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy, said Thursday at the Jordan Brand Classic practice at Sports Club/LA in Manhattan. "He knows what to do with them. He gets them in the league [the NBA] fast so we would want to go there."
Despite losing John Wall (right) to the NBA, John Calipari has already landed two of the top prospects in the nation.
Asked if he would like play in the NBA, Lamb said, "I would like that, but I ain't saying nothing about no schools. You'll have to see Saturday night."
http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1074979 (http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1074979)