6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: redmen4life on May 01, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
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Chris Ronca @ChrisRonca
St. John's University will leave Nike and become an Under Armor school on June 1st. #STJBB #STJLAX #STJBASE #STJWBB
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We knew it was coming. I guess it's official. I'm interested to see what we will look like after this.
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Who is Chris Ronca and is his info reliable?
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https://twitter.com/ChrisRonca
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So our uniforms this year will be new?
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I think they give the guys new uniforms every year.
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I think they give the guys new uniforms every year.
Think he was asking about design. And yes I think we will have different jerseys if we are in fact switching to under armour. I jus hope their not too crazy.
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I hope they are not black, or it could be a long season :)
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I hope they are not black, or it could be a long season :)
Am i the only person who likes the black ones?
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Who is Chris Ronca and is his info reliable?
He's correct.
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So our uniforms this year will be new?
Yes
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I was lookin forward to seeing those grey uni's again. Hope they have some great ideas for us. I believe we will begin to get alot of media attention in the coming years.
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I was lookin forward to seeing those grey uni's again. Hope they have some great ideas for us. I believe we will begin to get alot of media attention in the coming years.
I really liked those unis too...they were sweet. I don't think I like this switch away from Nike. Under Armour does have some nice stuff, though. I wonder how it will affect basketball recruiting because of camps and AAU circuits.
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Very happy about this. I'm sure they'll make nice jerseys for us, but I'm more excited to actually see some new t-shirts and things like that for the fans, since we barely got anything new under Nike.
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If we win next year we'll be getting a lot of attention. New unis, new league, on a new network etc.
And for what it's worth I used to be somewhat of a traditionalist when it came to jerseys. Now, I don't care. Red, black, gray, whatever.. If the kids like it that's all that matters really.
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Personally, I couldn't care less about the uniforms..who makes them, etc.... Just win some games in March...
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Looking at the other schools that UA sponsors, we're definitely one of, if not the most high profile school they have. Should get a lot of promotion from them. Wonder if anyone else will be joining St. John's this offseason.
(http://i.imgur.com/ARd9ovn.png)
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I understand the business side of this move. I get it. But from a HS kid perspective this sucks. Nike is King in basketball. Our guys were proud of their Nikes and would consistently posts pictures of their Kobe Nike kicks. Hope UA markets the hell out of our apparel.
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I think they give the guys new uniforms every year.
Think he was asking about design. And yes I think we will have different jerseys if we are in fact switching to under armour. I jus hope their not too crazy.
I didn't think I even needed the Smiley so to say I forgot it would be a lie.
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Looking at the other schools that UA sponsors, we're definitely one of, if not the most high profile school they have. Should get a lot of promotion from them. Wonder if anyone else will be joining St. John's this offseason.
(http://i.imgur.com/ARd9ovn.png)
They grey Maryland jerseys are sick. BC is actually a lot more tame that I would expect from UA.
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I think they give the guys new uniforms every year.
Think he was asking about design. And yes I think we will have different jerseys if we are in fact switching to under armour. I jus hope their not too crazy.
I didn't think I even needed the Smiley so to say I forgot it would be a lie.
Sorry yank, flew right over my head.
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Looking at the other schools that UA sponsors, we're definitely one of, if not the most high profile school they have. Should get a lot of promotion from them. Wonder if anyone else will be joining St. John's this offseason.
(http://i.imgur.com/ARd9ovn.png)
There's an article floating around that a bunch of schools ( I think 17) just dumped Adidas. Adidas is apparently not wanting to pay workers in Indonesia...
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I would dump Adidas too. Did you see how ugly those jerseys were that they made some teams wear at the end of the season? Lousiville, Notre Dame, UCLA etc looked stupid.
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Looking at the other schools that UA sponsors, we're definitely one of, if not the most high profile school they have. Should get a lot of promotion from them. Wonder if anyone else will be joining St. John's this offseason.
(http://i.imgur.com/ARd9ovn.png)
There's an article floating around that a bunch of schools ( I think 17) just dumped Adidas. Adidas is apparently not wanting to pay workers in Indonesia...
http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/dollars/post/_/id/3390/why-are-colleges-at-odds-with-adidas (http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/dollars/post/_/id/3390/why-are-colleges-at-odds-with-adidas)
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Others were hinting that this has greater implications than simply switching from one uniform provider to another. Anyone care to elaborate?
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St. John's gonna get alot of money for this switch.
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(http://blog.eastbay.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/college-bbal-jerseys-Nov.-20021.jpg)
If you look at this old catalog from 2002, you can easily find a replica jersey along with prominent programs. today if go on this site you can't even buy the jersey. st. john's or now under armour must do a better job getting gear out to the public.
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The Maryland unis are cool in my opinion
http://gamedayr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/texas-tech-black-lone-star-basketball-uniforms-2013.jpeg (http://gamedayr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/texas-tech-black-lone-star-basketball-uniforms-2013.jpeg)
http://gamedayr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/texas-tech-white-lone-star-basketball-uniforms-2013.jpeg (http://gamedayr.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/texas-tech-white-lone-star-basketball-uniforms-2013.jpeg)
http://i.imgur.com/rOIZQ.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/rOIZQ.jpg)
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/485933_10151304677181006_32622774_n.jpg (http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/485933_10151304677181006_32622774_n.jpg)
http://kenlu.net/files/2013/03/WhiteOPs-Uniform4.jpg (http://kenlu.net/files/2013/03/WhiteOPs-Uniform4.jpg)
http://solecollector.com/media/sneakers/images/UA%20Maryland%20Pride%20Spine%20Group.jpg (http://solecollector.com/media/sneakers/images/UA%20Maryland%20Pride%20Spine%20Group.jpg)
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I understand the business side of this move. I get it. But from a HS kid perspective this sucks. Nike is King in basketball. Our guys were proud of their Nikes and would consistently posts pictures of their Kobe Nike kicks. Hope UA markets the hell out of our apparel.
Look at what UA is doing on grassroots scene and HS scene. More and more schools. They have the top 3 PSAL schools. While not full of players they are getting UA in kids minds
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(http://blog.eastbay.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/college-bbal-jerseys-Nov.-20021.jpg)
If you look at this old catalog from 2002, you can easily find a replica jersey along with prominent programs. today if go on this site you can't even buy the jersey. st. john's or now under armour must do a better job getting gear out to the public.
Mr supply meet Mr demand
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Kob- what impact will this have on recruits? Assuming if a pr savy lavin approved there must be some upside for attracting talent.
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probably means nothing, but Under Armour is Lincoln's (Whitehead) sponsor.
http://solecollector.com/Sneakers/News/Lincoln-and-Boys-Girls-Will-Represent-Under-Armour-In-Saturday-s-PSAL-City-Championship-Game (http://solecollector.com/Sneakers/News/Lincoln-and-Boys-Girls-Will-Represent-Under-Armour-In-Saturday-s-PSAL-City-Championship-Game)
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/armour-moving-new-house-article-1.398006 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/armour-moving-new-house-article-1.398006)
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probably means nothing, but Under Armour is Lincoln's (Whitehead) sponsor.
http://solecollector.com/Sneakers/News/Lincoln-and-Boys-Girls-Will-Represent-Under-Armour-In-Saturday-s-PSAL-City-Championship-Game (http://solecollector.com/Sneakers/News/Lincoln-and-Boys-Girls-Will-Represent-Under-Armour-In-Saturday-s-PSAL-City-Championship-Game)
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/armour-moving-new-house-article-1.398006 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/armour-moving-new-house-article-1.398006)
Don't you recall the picture I posted in his thread ;)
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Kob- what impact will this have on recruits? Assuming if a pr savy lavin approved there must be some upside for attracting talent.
It will have no real impact positive or negative honestly
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Kids in HS haven't lived long enough to be loyal to a particular brand. Although UA is new to basketball, they have a powerfull presence in athletics through football which many kids play and/or are fans of. I don't believe it will have any negative impact on recruits. As long as they receive cool free stuff everything will be alright. Old vs. New....Microsoft vs. Apple
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I used to get so pumped when the eastbay catalogue came. They had stuff you couldn't find anywhere else. It was like santas workshop for equipment and apparel
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I used to get so pumped when the eastbay catalogue came. They had stuff you couldn't find anywhere else. It was like santas workshop for equipment and apparel
+1
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Well here is the thing. I personally think it may have some impact. I think sneaker companies want the kids on their grass roots scene playing with a college of the same affiliation. It's all a game to get that one kid who is gonna be a pro. If u look at the Harrison twins. They was under armor all I'm high school and aau. And it came down down to a nike school in kentucky and a UA school Maryland. They chose kentucky. Noah Vonleh is a addidas kid and alot of nike colleges wanted him but he stood addidas and went to Indiana. Two people I really trust in this business said two different things . But the one thing they both did say is that if u are winning the kids will come period.
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Not true. I teach middle school in Brooklyn . Almost every kid has Jordan's or other Nike shoes. Definitely a Status thing. The only one who doesn't is their poor gym teach who is me.
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Well here is the thing. I personally think it may have some impact. I think sneaker companies want the kids on their grass roots scene playing with a college of the same affiliation. It's all a game to get that one kid who is gonna be a pro. If u look at the Harrison twins. They was under armor all I'm high school and aau. And it came down down to a nike school in kentucky and a UA school Maryland. They chose kentucky. Noah Vonleh is a addidas kid and alot of nike colleges wanted him but he stood addidas and went to Indiana. Two people I really trust in this business said two different things . But the one thing they both did say is that if u are winning the kids will come period.
Your right about a few things. But bottom line was Nike was not helping us much. We were just there. An afterthought. In terms of bball schools there is Maryland which will get a lot of UA attention but then arguably you can say STJ. There is a very high ranking person at UA who is STJ grad as well.
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Matt Mirchin
"When it comes to getting a start in sport management, the general consensus among the alumni speakers was that any opportunity is a good one. Matt Mirchin '82SVC, Senior Vice President of Sales, Under Armour, shared with attendees that he started with an internship with the New Jersey Nets. After graduating, he became a Regional Sales Manager with the NBA. “Anything is possible,” Mirchin said. “Look at Under Armour, founded in 1996 by football player Kevin Plank – we’ve grown into an $800 million dollar company. We’re even in the (performance) footwear business now.”
http://www.stjohns.edu/academics/graduate/professionalstudies/events/pr_alu_081027.news_item@digest.stjohns.edu%2Falumni%2Fpr_alu_081027.xml (http://www.stjohns.edu/academics/graduate/professionalstudies/events/pr_alu_081027.news_item@digest.stjohns.edu%2Falumni%2Fpr_alu_081027.xml)
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I purchased a UA shirt for running outdoors in the winter and have found it to be quite good-keeps you warm while holding down the sweat as advertised. Would buy another. However, I haven't tried any of their sneakers and would want to know if anyone on the board has and how they were. I have seen alot of folks with the shirts but not much with the footware.
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I purchased a UA shirt for running outdoors in the winter and have found it to be quite good-keeps you warm while holding down the sweat as advertised. Would buy another. However, I haven't tried any of their sneakers and would want to know if anyone on the board has and how they were. I have seen alot of folks with the shirts but not much with the footware.
No question they made their money in apparel first. And footwear is coming along.
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Done deal. Nike wasn't willing to come even close to what UA offered. You'll see a lot of promotional buzz with the switch.
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Done deal. Nike wasn't willing to come even close to what UA offered. You'll see a lot of promotional buzz with the switch.
Dave you like the move?
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Rysheed Jordan also played for a Under Armour sponsored AAU team.
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Looking at the other schools that UA sponsors, we're definitely one of, if not the most high profile school they have. Should get a lot of promotion from them. Wonder if anyone else will be joining St. John's this offseason.
(http://i.imgur.com/ARd9ovn.png)
I'd place us at #2 behind Maryland on that list of current UA schools. The thing that separates us from Maryland though is the #1 market in the US. We are natural attention getters even if we are just on the bubble. When we make the tourney all eyes are on us in the metro area. This helps UA a ton and overall I see us as the flagship program that really gets them to the big market and into NYC area culture. I hope the new jerseys are fresh, different, but sharp and neat. I would think that being at worst UA's #2 flagship program they will really start to give us new concepts to get UA attention nationally just like Nike did for Nova, G'Town, etc. We clearly weren't on the good side of Nike...we were the red-headed step child in that regard.
I constantly check for new stuff and Nike does NOTHING! No new t-shirts, no new sweatshirts, no new jerseys, no new nothing. Just the same old bland stuff. Hopefully UA told SJ that they would treat us among their very best schools and make sure to promote us more with cooler jerseys. The only thing I take issue with is the UA shoes...they are flat out ugly from what I've seen and have been known to be cumbersome and not so flexible. Hopefully they prove me wrong. Anyway, I think the tide is turning and eventually a lot more big name schools will choose UA. Nike only has a select group of schools it really cares about (Nova, G'Town, UConn, etc) so I would imagine others follow suit especially if they give us good gear.
By the way, I remember hearing about "rebranding"...is this what they meant, or are we going to get new alternative logos too? It would be the perfect time if they wanted to with everything new.
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NY Metro market does make it a good pickup for UA but Auburn is arguably the biggest athletic program on that list with recent Football Nat'l Championships. Yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere, albeit an area with two great RTJ golf courses, but it's a big brand in the far larger sport of college football. Given the low level of success and therefore national awareness of St Johns the past decade I think it's a bit presumptuous to put them #1 but who knows what the future holds. A run and a couple more draft picks and it get's pretty darn close.
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Rebranding would make sense. Get a new mascot, a new logo, new color scheme and if we have a big year it will catch on. Under Armour is very good with that type of stuff so I don't mind handing them the keys. A bird and just our name written out are the two most generic logos you can get. Time to spice it up.
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NY Metro market does make it a good pickup for UA but Auburn is arguably the biggest athletic program on that list with recent Football Nat'l Championships. Yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere, albeit an area with two great RTJ golf courses, but it's a big brand in the far larger sport of college football. Given the low level of success and therefore national awareness of St Johns the past decade I think it's a bit presumptuous to put them #1 but who knows what the future holds. A run and a couple more draft picks and it get's pretty darn close.
100% disagree. First of all I'm only referring to basketball...it really has no other relevance than basketball for us. Basketball wise we have a better overall program including history than all those other schools except Maryland. That's where the #2 came from. Saying the NYC market means nothing is ignoring the #1 market's relevance. Look how the Brooklyn Nets gear has flown off the shelves...look how the Knicks gear has flown off the shelves...Yankee fitted caps are a national brand now. Now obviously these are pro teams and the Yanks have 27 rings, but still the NYC market is definitely responsible for the platform that made that trend "cool". Sorry but their current flagship school in Baltimore, Maryland is not exactly some marketing machine. UA has the opportunity to really incorporate the NYC skyline in shirts and other gear the way Nike refused to do.
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Why am I not surprised that you disagree.
1. Football > Basketball. Sells a ton more logo gear.
2. St Johns is a minor program in the minor sport nationally AT THIS TIME. Hopefully that changes real soon but no one outside of NY is buying SJU gear.
3. NY Market means nothing in COLLEGE sports in general. But specifically even for those in NY who DO care about college athletics 95% of NY's college interested market has allegiances to teams other than STJ. That's why Nike didn't bother to get more SJU gear into the market. No one was really interested.
4. Don't disagree with your points on pro sports at all.
St Johns has potential but as of now it's unrealized.
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Why am I not surprised that you disagree.
1. Football > Basketball. Sells a ton more logo gear.
2. St Johns is a minor program in the minor sport nationally AT THIS TIME. Hopefully that changes real soon but no one outside of NY is buying SJU gear.
3. NY Market means nothing in COLLEGE sports in general. But specifically even for those in NY who DO care about college athletics 95% of NY's college interested market has allegiances to teams other than STJ. That's why Nike didn't bother to get more SJU gear into the market. No one was really interested.
4. Don't disagree with your points on pro sports at all.
St Johns has potential but as of now it's unrealized.
1. But we are not talking about football...so what's your point? Football is irrelevant to St. John's basketball branding.
2. Minor program in a minor sport? Wrong on both counts. First of all SJ is #7 all time with wins, nearly 30 NCAA appearances, 5 NIT rings, a Final Four berth, Elite 8's, etc. which is enough to best 99% of the teams in the country right away. There are over 300 schools in the country. Maybe 50 meet that criteria if not much less. SJ has played in the best conference in all of CBB for a while now and we are still playing in one of the top conferences now. We play at MSG. This is D-1 high major hoops. This is not Grambling State basketball. Have you ever heard of the distinction between major and mid major? SJ is considered major due to conference.
You want to know a minor hoops school? Concordia. Nationally, CBB is easily regarded as the most exciting college sport to watch. In NCAAF the same teams are recruiting at the top and winning every year. There are no major upsets (maybe once every decade or 2) i.e. App State vs. Michigan. In CBB during March it's called madness for a reason...anything can happen, the unthinkable is routine. Everyone and their mother has an office bracket or ones with friends at home. Nationally, sure NCAAF is more popular because most of the nation is rural small towns, but in the biggest media markets, CBB tends to be the big city thing. NCAAF has a joke of a system for the championship. NCAAB perfected it.
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Why am I not surprised that you disagree.
1. Football > Basketball. Sells a ton more logo gear.
2. St Johns is a minor program in the minor sport nationally AT THIS TIME. Hopefully that changes real soon but no one outside of NY is buying SJU gear.
3. NY Market means nothing in COLLEGE sports in general. But specifically even for those in NY who DO care about college athletics 95% of NY's college interested market has allegiances to teams other than STJ. That's why Nike didn't bother to get more SJU gear into the market. No one was really interested.
4. Don't disagree with your points on pro sports at all.
St Johns has potential but as of now it's unrealized.
1. But we are not talking about football...so what's your point? Football is irrelevant to St. John's basketball branding.
2. Minor program in a minor sport? Wrong on both counts. First of all SJ is #7 all time with wins, nearly 30 NCAA appearances, 5 NIT rings, a Final Four berth, Elite 8's, etc. which is enough to best 99% of the teams in the country right away. There are over 300 schools in the country. Maybe 50 meet that criteria if not much less. SJ has played in the best conference in all of CBB for a while now and we are still playing in one of the top conferences now. We play at MSG. This is D-1 high major hoops. This is not Grambling State basketball. Have you ever heard of the distinction between major and mid major? SJ is considered major due to conference.
You want to know a minor hoops school? Concordia. Nationally, CBB is easily regarded as the most exciting college sport to watch. In NCAAF the same teams are recruiting at the top and winning every year. There are no major upsets (maybe once every decade or 2) i.e. App State vs. Michigan. In CBB during March it's called madness for a reason...anything can happen, the unthinkable is routine. Everyone and their mother has an office bracket or ones with friends at home. Nationally, sure NCAAF is more popular because most of the nation is rural small towns, but in the biggest media markets, CBB tends to be the big city thing. NCAAF has a joke of a system for the championship. NCAAB perfected it.
Oh my!
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Why am I not surprised that you disagree.
1. Football > Basketball. Sells a ton more logo gear.
2. St Johns is a minor program in the minor sport nationally AT THIS TIME. Hopefully that changes real soon but no one outside of NY is buying SJU gear.
3. NY Market means nothing in COLLEGE sports in general. But specifically even for those in NY who DO care about college athletics 95% of NY's college interested market has allegiances to teams other than STJ. That's why Nike didn't bother to get more SJU gear into the market. No one was really interested.
4. Don't disagree with your points on pro sports at all.
St Johns has potential but as of now it's unrealized.
1. But we are not talking about football...so what's your point? Football is irrelevant to St. John's basketball branding.
2. Minor program in a minor sport? Wrong on both counts. First of all SJ is #7 all time with wins, nearly 30 NCAA appearances, 5 NIT rings, a Final Four berth, Elite 8's, etc. which is enough to best 99% of the teams in the country right away. There are over 300 schools in the country. Maybe 50 meet that criteria if not much less. SJ has played in the best conference in all of CBB for a while now and we are still playing in one of the top conferences now. We play at MSG. This is D-1 high major hoops. This is not Grambling State basketball. Have you ever heard of the distinction between major and mid major? SJ is considered major due to conference.
You want to know a minor hoops school? Concordia. Nationally, CBB is easily regarded as the most exciting college sport to watch. In NCAAF the same teams are recruiting at the top and winning every year. There are no major upsets (maybe once every decade or 2) i.e. App State vs. Michigan. In CBB during March it's called madness for a reason...anything can happen, the unthinkable is routine. Everyone and their mother has an office bracket or ones with friends at home. Nationally, sure NCAAF is more popular because most of the nation is rural small towns, but in the biggest media markets, CBB tends to be the big city thing. NCAAF has a joke of a system for the championship. NCAAB perfected it.
Soooo nationally college bball is easily the most exciting college sport? Buuuut nationally college football is the most popular college sport? Gotchya.
It angers me how popular college football is. I really like college football but I hate how much more love it gets than college bball.
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Why am I not surprised that you disagree.
1. Football > Basketball. Sells a ton more logo gear.
2. St Johns is a minor program in the minor sport nationally AT THIS TIME. Hopefully that changes real soon but no one outside of NY is buying SJU gear.
3. NY Market means nothing in COLLEGE sports in general. But specifically even for those in NY who DO care about college athletics 95% of NY's college interested market has allegiances to teams other than STJ. That's why Nike didn't bother to get more SJU gear into the market. No one was really interested.
4. Don't disagree with your points on pro sports at all.
St Johns has potential but as of now it's unrealized.
1. But we are not talking about football...so what's your point? Football is irrelevant to St. John's basketball branding.
2. Minor program in a minor sport? Wrong on both counts. First of all SJ is #7 all time with wins, nearly 30 NCAA appearances, 5 NIT rings, a Final Four berth, Elite 8's, etc. which is enough to best 99% of the teams in the country right away. There are over 300 schools in the country. Maybe 50 meet that criteria if not much less. SJ has played in the best conference in all of CBB for a while now and we are still playing in one of the top conferences now. We play at MSG. This is D-1 high major hoops. This is not Grambling State basketball. Have you ever heard of the distinction between major and mid major? SJ is considered major due to conference.
You want to know a minor hoops school? Concordia. Nationally, CBB is easily regarded as the most exciting college sport to watch. In NCAAF the same teams are recruiting at the top and winning every year. There are no major upsets (maybe once every decade or 2) i.e. App State vs. Michigan. In CBB during March it's called madness for a reason...anything can happen, the unthinkable is routine. Everyone and their mother has an office bracket or ones with friends at home. Nationally, sure NCAAF is more popular because most of the nation is rural small towns, but in the biggest media markets, CBB tends to be the big city thing. NCAAF has a joke of a system for the championship. NCAAB perfected it.
We're talking about programs relative value to UA, not STJ's basketball branding. You should know that, you started the debate. That covers all sports, no matter how YOU choose to look at it. Including football. And your rose colored glasses view of hoops vs football is not shared in the real world of attendance, ratings, and most importantly $$$. You and I were raised on LI where college football is immaterial. We both became rabid college basketball fans. I can see beyond my own bias. You can't. 90% of the US was raised in an area where HS football is as, if not more, important than college basketball.
In a basketball only world I would agree STJ's may be just a tad behind Maryland on that list for first . . . among a long list of also rans of course. But this is not a basketball only world so that point is moot.
Besides, Blah, blah, blah ST Johns was great when the backboards were made of wood. I get it. That said TODAY they're borderline irrelevant in NY, how do you think they're positioned outside the greater metro area. I hope with my very optimistic feelings about next year all that will change, then again so do fans of about 50 other programs in the country. Luckily I think we're right and they're wrong.
But anyone buying SJU right now is buying purely on potential, potential that'll be tough but certainly not impossible to realize. On one point we agree and you are correct. If St Johns can actually just get the city behind it that would raise their value exponentially and that's obviously the bet that UA is taking.
To clarify my position on minor and major as it relates to this conversation and a school's value to UA, obviously anyone not a dope understands that Concordia isn't even part of this conversation, Grambling neither. However, in college sports brands Ohio State is major, Northwestern is minor. STJ may be a bit above Northwestern in athletic image but Ohio State can't even see them in the rear view mirror.
The other value a school can bring to UA is in $ but we won't go there at all. In terms of merch who do you think sells more nationally, St Johns or South Carolina or Utah or Texas Tech or Northwestern. Hint, all of the others probably. Rabid alumni fan bases and all but Northwestern with f-all else to do. Northwestern just sells a lot of merch because folks want to show off that they went to one of the best schools in the country. Yes I still have my Cornell jacket I bought as a freshman. I can relate.
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Brevity needs to be learned and adhered to.
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Brevity needs to be learned and adhered to.
Imagine these guys when you had to rely on smoke signals. A lot of timber!!!!
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Brevity needs to be learned and adhered to.
You sound like my boss. ;)
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There is no doubt NCAAF is more popular nationally, that's not up for debate. What I mean is March Madness provides excitement NCAAF never can because it has no real playoff. NCAAB has parity...NCAAF has zero. All I care about is how SJ stacks up basketball wise. Why worry where you stack up in football when you don't even have a team? We are a pure basketball school clearly...so that's what we offer to UA. That's why the only thing I care about it where we stand vs. the other UA basketball schools. We are easily #2 on that list.
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There is no doubt NCAAF is more popular nationally, that's not up for debate. What I mean is March Madness provides excitement NCAAF never can because it has no real playoff. NCAAB has parity...NCAAF has zero. All I care about is how SJ stacks up basketball wise. Why worry where you stack up in football when you don't even have a team? We are a pure basketball school clearly...so that's what we offer to UA. That's why the only thing I care about it where we stand vs. the other UA basketball schools. We are easily #2 on that list.
OK, UA doesn't GAF about that but I agree with you.
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Can we try to keep this on St. John's and UA and not turn this into a Joe/yankcranker tit for tat?
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Heh, heh. Moose said tit.
But seriously, it was pretty cordial all things considered. We even agreed at the end. On a subject that wasn't really the point of the debate but we did agree.
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Yes we still agreed on a few things :laugh:. I'm just glad we are in the hands of a company with fresh ideas and happy to have us. Plus we get more money correct? I would think another logo turns up soon, but haven't heard anything official.
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Was at the bookstore today...make sure you guys get your favorite Nike shirt now before they clean house. There really are only 1 or 2 nice ones anyway. Also saw more UA gear than usual...the shirt I saw was ugly with no official SJ logo or anything, just a generic font. Also, does anyone else know why Champion, Alta Gracia, and UA are allowed to make some of our gear while we are under Nike?
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Was at the bookstore today...make sure you guys get your favorite Nike shirt now before they clean house. There really are only 1 or 2 nice ones anyway. Also saw more UA gear than usual...the shirt I saw was ugly with no official SJ logo or anything, just a generic font. Also, does anyone else know why Champion, Alta Gracia, and UA are allowed to make some of our gear while we are under Nike?
Because the deal was not exclusive. Most deals arent. Different price points and retail penetration.
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Was at the bookstore today...make sure you guys get your favorite Nike shirt now before they clean house. There really are only 1 or 2 nice ones anyway. Also saw more UA gear than usual...the shirt I saw was ugly with no official SJ logo or anything, just a generic font. Also, does anyone else know why Champion, Alta Gracia, and UA are allowed to make some of our gear while we are under Nike?
Because the deal was not exclusive. Most deals arent. Different price points and retail penetration.
So isn't that big news for those who hate this move? Doesn't it mean Nike will still put a shirt or 2 out even with our UA contract?
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Was at the bookstore today...make sure you guys get your favorite Nike shirt now before they clean house. There really are only 1 or 2 nice ones anyway. Also saw more UA gear than usual...the shirt I saw was ugly with no official SJ logo or anything, just a generic font. Also, does anyone else know why Champion, Alta Gracia, and UA are allowed to make some of our gear while we are under Nike?
Because the deal was not exclusive. Most deals arent. Different price points and retail penetration.
So isn't that big news for those who hate this move? Doesn't it mean Nike will still put a shirt or 2 out even with our UA contract?
UA is outfitting our teams. In terms of retail sales I don't know how the UA deal was structured. You saw UA shirts because they have been trying for our business for some time. But like you said they are just generic logo slap items with minimal thought put into them. You will definitely see lesser names like you mentioned. As for Nike I don't know.
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coach already embracing UA. take a look! LOL
(http://media.kentucky.com/smedia/2013/05/04/15/44/1t7AGW.AuSt.79.jpeg)
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UA
Kevin Plank
Todd Pletcher and Mike Repole
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UA
Kevin Plank
Todd Pletcher and Mike Repole
What connection does Repole have to UA?
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UA
Kevin Plank
Todd Pletcher and Mike Repole
What connection does Repole have to UA?
He's friendly with Plank. Regardless of their little business spat recently. Pletcher trains horses for both Plank and Repole.
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UA
Kevin Plank
Todd Pletcher and Mike Repole
What connection does Repole have to UA?
He's friendly with Plank. Regardless of their little business spat recently. Pletcher trains horses for both Plank and Repole.
thanks. did some digging after your post and found the Repole has a new drink called "Body Armor." Hmmmm....
http://www.drinkbodyarmor.com/ (http://www.drinkbodyarmor.com/)
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UA
Kevin Plank
Todd Pletcher and Mike Repole
What connection does Repole have to UA?
He's friendly with Plank. Regardless of their little business spat recently. Pletcher trains horses for both Plank and Repole.
thanks. did some digging after your post and found the Repole has a new drink called "Body Armor." Hmmmm....
http://www.drinkbodyarmor.com/ (http://www.drinkbodyarmor.com/)
Actually that is the spat I'm referring to. There was a lawsuit regarding the name. But its strictly business. Personally there is a good connection.
*Pletcher has attended a number of STJ games by the way
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Well Lavin, that was fast LOL. Jeez.
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Question for those in the know
Did the Nike contract end this season? Or are they handling the team's apparel for next season and UA is taking over the following year?
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Question for those in the know
Did the Nike contract end this season? Or are they handling the team's apparel for next season and UA is taking over the following year?
Its happening now
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I don't know if you guys saw this on RM, but I figured it's worth cross-posting. Credit to Firestorm for posting it..
Well, this item on Paul Lukas's uni-watch.com is interesting:
"A little birdie tells me that St. John’s may (a) switch from Nike to Under Armour, (b) bring back blue, (c) go back to “SJU” instead of “STJ,” and (d) swap “Johnny Thunderbird” for a cartoon caricature of Lou Carnesecca with an “LC” on the chest."
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I don't know if you guys saw this on RM, but I figured it's worth cross-posting. Credit to Firestorm for posting it..
Well, this item on Paul Lukas's uni-watch.com is interesting:
"A little birdie tells me that St. John’s may (a) switch from Nike to Under Armour, (b) bring back blue, (c) go back to “SJU” instead of “STJ,” and (d) swap “Johnny Thunderbird” for a cartoon caricature of Lou Carnesecca with an “LC” on the chest."
And as I posted over there.
The 2nd part of D is phony but the rest is legit.
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I don't know if you guys saw this on RM, but I figured it's worth cross-posting. Credit to Firestorm for posting it..
Well, this item on Paul Lukas's uni-watch.com is interesting:
"A little birdie tells me that St. John’s may (a) switch from Nike to Under Armour, (b) bring back blue, (c) go back to “SJU” instead of “STJ,” and (d) swap “Johnny Thunderbird” for a cartoon caricature of Lou Carnesecca with an “LC” on the chest."
And as I posted over there.
The 2nd part of D is phony but the rest is legit.
i'm sorry, but what is "bring back blue"?
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I don't know if you guys saw this on RM, but I figured it's worth cross-posting. Credit to Firestorm for posting it..
Well, this item on Paul Lukas's uni-watch.com is interesting:
"A little birdie tells me that St. John’s may (a) switch from Nike to Under Armour, (b) bring back blue, (c) go back to “SJU” instead of “STJ,” and (d) swap “Johnny Thunderbird” for a cartoon caricature of Lou Carnesecca with an “LC” on the chest."
And as I posted over there.
The 2nd part of D is phony but the rest is legit.
i'm sorry, but what is "bring back blue"?
We used to have blue in uniforms. I heard its very subtle. Nothing substantial.
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I don't know if you guys saw this on RM, but I figured it's worth cross-posting. Credit to Firestorm for posting it..
Well, this item on Paul Lukas's uni-watch.com is interesting:
"A little birdie tells me that St. John’s may (a) switch from Nike to Under Armour, (b) bring back blue, (c) go back to “SJU” instead of “STJ,” and (d) swap “Johnny Thunderbird” for a cartoon caricature of Lou Carnesecca with an “LC” on the chest."
And as I posted over there.
The 2nd part of D is phony but the rest is legit.
i'm sorry, but what is "bring back blue"?
We used to have blue in uniforms. I heard its very subtle. Nothing substantial.
You mad moose? :)
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I don't know if you guys saw this on RM, but I figured it's worth cross-posting. Credit to Firestorm for posting it..
Well, this item on Paul Lukas's uni-watch.com is interesting:
"A little birdie tells me that St. John’s may (a) switch from Nike to Under Armour, (b) bring back blue, (c) go back to “SJU” instead of “STJ,” and (d) swap “Johnny Thunderbird” for a cartoon caricature of Lou Carnesecca with an “LC” on the chest."
And as I posted over there.
The 2nd part of D is phony but the rest is legit.
i'm sorry, but what is "bring back blue"?
We used to have blue in uniforms. I heard its very subtle. Nothing substantial.
You mad moose? :)
Only recommendations to date. Nothing is final
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I don't know if you guys saw this on RM, but I figured it's worth cross-posting. Credit to Firestorm for posting it..
Well, this item on Paul Lukas's uni-watch.com is interesting:
"A little birdie tells me that St. John’s may (a) switch from Nike to Under Armour, (b) bring back blue, (c) go back to “SJU” instead of “STJ,” and (d) swap “Johnny Thunderbird” for a cartoon caricature of Lou Carnesecca with an “LC” on the chest."
And as I posted over there.
The 2nd part of D is phony but the rest is legit.
i'm sorry, but what is "bring back blue"?
We used to have blue in uniforms. I heard its very subtle. Nothing substantial.
You mad moose? :)
Only recommendations to date. Nothing is final
Way to kill my vibe.
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I don't know if you guys saw this on RM, but I figured it's worth cross-posting. Credit to Firestorm for posting it..
Well, this item on Paul Lukas's uni-watch.com is interesting:
"A little birdie tells me that St. John’s may (a) switch from Nike to Under Armour, (b) bring back blue, (c) go back to “SJU” instead of “STJ,” and (d) swap “Johnny Thunderbird” for a cartoon caricature of Lou Carnesecca with an “LC” on the chest."
And as I posted over there.
The 2nd part of D is phony but the rest is legit.
i'm sorry, but what is "bring back blue"?
We used to have blue in uniforms. I heard its very subtle. Nothing substantial.
You mad moose? :)
Only recommendations to date. Nothing is final
Way to kill my vibe.
;)
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Thinking of the American flag color scheme, don't we veer a bit too close to DePaul?
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I dont think it'd be a primary color of ours, something like this (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gyNHMhA9ELA/TKJinILsNII/AAAAAAAAAJ8/xe8AQlPdHA4/s1600/ron-artest-St.+John's.jpg)
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I dont think it'd be a primary color of ours, something like this (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gyNHMhA9ELA/TKJinILsNII/AAAAAAAAAJ8/xe8AQlPdHA4/s1600/ron-artest-St.+John's.jpg)
Agreed.. I think the Hatten years also had a tad of blue.. Nothing to get panties in a bunch about.
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If I recall correctly, DePaul also has a primary red with blue lettering jersey but whatever...I'm sure it will be very different than what any of us can imagine. Personally I would love for them to use the gray color scheme from last year just with different design in terms of font/logo.
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If I recall correctly, DePaul also has a primary red with blue lettering jersey but whatever...I'm sure it will be very different than what any of us can imagine. Personally I would love for them to use the gray color scheme from last year just with different design in terms of font/logo.
DePaul has a red jersey?
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If I recall correctly, DePaul also has a primary red with blue lettering jersey but whatever...I'm sure it will be very different than what any of us can imagine. Personally I would love for them to use the gray color scheme from last year just with different design in terms of font/logo.
DePaul has a red jersey?
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2m7aq9h.jpg)
Also...for those interested:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/16m3xu.jpg)
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And that was primary? Or secondary like our black and gray experiment
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We have a long history of navy in our uniforms. I don't know what thread it's in but I posted pictures from over the years when Mase first brought up the blue thing.
I have no problem if that's a secondary or third color. And I imagine it will be navy, not depauls royal blue.
I also think switching to "Johnnies" is the best of mostly shitty options.
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My only problem with the name Johnnies is "The St. John's Johnnies" is awkward to say. I'm sure I would get used to it though and it's sure as hell better than Red Storm.
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That actually makes me wonder, with the rumored switch back to SJU perhaps they will re-brand us as the SJU Johnnies. Kind of like USC or UNLV.
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That actually makes me wonder, with the rumored switch back to SJU perhaps they will re-brand us as the SJU Johnnies. Kind of like USC or UNLV.
Not following your comparisons. Can you elaborate
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That actually makes me wonder, with the rumored switch back to SJU perhaps they will re-brand us as the SJU Johnnies. Kind of like USC or UNLV.
Not following your comparisons. Can you elaborate
Like how nobody says the Southern California Trojans or Nevada Las Vegas Runnin Rebels. I wonder if the school will promote the athletic teams as the SJU Johnnies as opposed to the St. John's Johnnies. St. John's Johnnies just sounds weird.
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Of course we would have to change our name first for that to even be considered but I'm just speculating.
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I can't really think of a name that wouldn't sound bad at first.
One thing for sure is that we have one of, if not the worst, nickname in college bball.
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That actually makes me wonder, with the rumored switch back to SJU perhaps they will re-brand us as the SJU Johnnies.
That is the first I heard of that. SJU is the intellectual property of Saint Joe's. I'm sure they would have something to say about that.
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I can't really think of a name that wouldn't sound bad at first.
One thing for sure is that we have one of, if not the worst, nickname in college bball.
I kinda like it....
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I can't really think of a name that wouldn't sound bad at first.
One thing for sure is that we have one of, if not the worst, nickname in college bball.
Similar, but worse: Crimson Tide, Green Wave.
Definitely worse: Billikens, Gamecocks, Cornhuskers, Horned Frogs, Hoyas.
That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more. Red Storm has actually grown on me. I don't mind it at all like I did at the beginning. Marquette fans hate Golden Eagles because they preferred Warriors. I'm sure most of us don't see anything wrong with Golden Eagles. It's just the move away from tradition that bothers us.
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I can't really think of a name that wouldn't sound bad at first.
One thing for sure is that we have one of, if not the worst, nickname in college bball.
Similar, but worse: Crimson Tide, Green Wave.
Definitely worse: Billikens, Gamecocks, Cornhuskers, Horned Frogs, Hoyas.
That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more. Red Storm has actually grown on me. I don't mind it at all like I did at the beginning. Marquette fans hate Golden Eagles because they preferred Warriors. I'm sure most of us don't see anything wrong with Golden Eagles. It's just the move away from tradition that bothers us.
Hoyas worse than us? I'd disagree. The other ones you mentioned are up for debate.
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We're just so used to colleges that you can associate with a mascot. That's why animals make for such a natural nickname.
But what's a "Met" other than someone who lives in NY? Or who are the Magic or Heat? Basically players that just wear a jersey for teams in Florida.
If we can get beyond trying to visualize what a "Johnnie" looks like, and can accept that a Johnnie is just a basketball player for St Johns, then it makes much more sense.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1628752-ranking-the-20-best-current-uniforms-in-college-basketball/page/21 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1628752-ranking-the-20-best-current-uniforms-in-college-basketball/page/21)
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How about the Red Eagles?
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How about the Red Eagles?
How bout Red Stripe? Hooray St. John's!
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The problem with Red Storm is that there is no direct mascot that can be associated with it. For years I've been waiting for SJ to get a well-known mascot and maybe even appear in one of those "This is Sportscenter" commercials on ESPN. Providence and UMass had their mascots on there. I won't lie though I love the beginnings of games at MSG with the thunder and the red lightning when it gets dark...pretty cool.
Our mascot is too generic...it won't catch on and our name makes it harder to develop cool and logical logos. Does anyone know if SJ is seriously considering logo/name changes or it's all speculation? Considering the school just got new logos not too long ago and a new mascot just a few years back it would be surprising to change so fast but I'd encourage it.
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How about the Red Eagles?
How bout Red Stripe? Hooray St. John's!
Hahah we are located in JAMAICA, NY :)
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None of these issues have hurt Alabama---especially in football.
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The problem with Red Storm is that there is no direct mascot that can be associated with it. For years I've been waiting for SJ to get a well-known mascot and maybe even appear in one of those "This is Sportscenter" commercials on ESPN. Providence and UMass had their mascots on there. I won't lie though I love the beginnings of games at MSG with the thunder and the red lightning when it gets dark...pretty cool.
Our mascot is too generic...it won't catch on and our name makes it harder to develop cool and logical logos. Does anyone know if SJ is seriously considering logo/name changes or it's all speculation? Considering the school just got new logos not too long ago and a new mascot just a few years back it would be surprising to change so fast but I'd encourage it.
A mascot? That's what your concerned about?
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The problem with Red Storm is that there is no direct mascot that can be associated with it. For years I've been waiting for SJ to get a well-known mascot and maybe even appear in one of those "This is Sportscenter" commercials on ESPN. Providence and UMass had their mascots on there. I won't lie though I love the beginnings of games at MSG with the thunder and the red lightning when it gets dark...pretty cool.
Our mascot is too generic...it won't catch on and our name makes it harder to develop cool and logical logos. Does anyone know if SJ is seriously considering logo/name changes or it's all speculation? Considering the school just got new logos not too long ago and a new mascot just a few years back it would be surprising to change so fast but I'd encourage it.
A mascot? That's what your concerned about?
Well not primarily. That would come last IMO. I'd like a nice new fresh look with our jerseys first maybe incorporate more colors, a different alternate logo (I like the SJ but we can use another to replace the ST.JOHN'S with the T and J connected. It looks too long and blocky. I'd rather some script one like Maryland got from UA.
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What would a Johnnie mascot look like? A guy meeting up with a hooker?
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Im actually pretty happy and content with Johnny Thunderbird as our mascot.
It would be cool if those hawks or falcons that frequented our campus would be trained to do a fly over before every game at MSG and Carnessecca.
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How can anybody not like a mascot named after New York Dolls rock legend Johnny Thunders? It's perfect as is:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/Johnnythundersportrait.jpg/220px-Johnnythundersportrait.jpg)
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
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Agree Desco... All of this nonsense is meaningless. If you win games and are consistently a top program all this periphery stuff takes care of itself..
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Agree Desco... All of this nonsense is meaningless. If you win games and are consistently a top program all this periphery stuff takes care of itself..
Exactly Boo. We're setup to have a successful season, we do that and everyone will know who st johns is.
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If we become a perinial top 25 team the redstorm nickname will become more meaningfull and identified w winning. We had great success w the redmen nickname and coincidentally since switching to redstorm we havent been that good. IMO thats what puts a bad taste in our mouth w the redstorm nickname, but hopefully that will change.
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
Never knew the orange had a name. Otto? That dude from rocket power?
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It's not easy being the only St. John's fan who not only loves the name Red Storm, but have always disliked the name Redmen. I always found it to be a dull uninspiring name. Just like Orangemen, Orange, Hoyas, Buckeyes, Hawkeyes, Tribe, Terrapins, Gaels, and Aggies.
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
Never knew the orange had a name. Otto? That dude from rocket power?
Yes Otto, and yes Rocket Power...not even going to ask how you know about Rocket Power lol...unless you are a twentysomething ;D
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It's not easy being the only St. John's fan who not only loves the name Red Storm, but have always disliked the name Redmen. I always found it to be a dull uninspiring name. Just like Orangemen, Orange, Hoyas, Buckeyes, Hawkeyes, Tribe, Terrapins, Gaels, and Aggies.
I feel the same way but I grew up on Red Storm.
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
Never knew the orange had a name. Otto? That dude from rocket power?
Yes Otto, and yes Rocket Power...not even going to ask how you know about Rocket Power lol...unless you are a twentysomething ;D
Shocking isn't it Joe
The board isn't full of AARP members ;)
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
Never knew the orange had a name. Otto? That dude from rocket power?
Yes Otto, and yes Rocket Power...not even going to ask how you know about Rocket Power lol...unless you are a twentysomething ;D
Haha yes I'm a twentysomething. And I always was a twister guy myself.
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
I disagree that Stanford is well known for the tree. It may have been on a n espn commercial, but technically they don't have a mascot. They have a logo with a tree, but not a mascot. Somebody in the band just unofficially dresses up at football games.
But I do understand your point that having an identifiable mascot makes things easier. That's true. But there's no easy answer for St. John's anymore, no red hawk or redfoxes or anything like that.
Whether they go with storm or johnnies I'm pretty indifferent. I think both can work if the team is even moderately successful. We just can't have another decade like we did from '01- '11.
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
Never knew the orange had a name. Otto? That dude from rocket power?
Yes Otto, and yes Rocket Power...not even going to ask how you know about Rocket Power lol...unless you are a twentysomething ;D
Shocking isn't it Joe
The board isn't full of AARP members ;)
I assume this Rocket Power came after the New York Dolls?
signed,
A card carrying AARP member
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
I disagree that Stanford is well known for the tree. It may have been on a n espn commercial, but technically they don't have a mascot. They have a logo with a tree, but not a mascot. Somebody in the band just unofficially dresses up at football games.
But I do understand your point that having an identifiable mascot makes things easier. That's true. But there's no easy answer for St. John's anymore, no red hawk or redfoxes or anything like that.
Whether they go with storm or johnnies I'm pretty indifferent. I think both can work if the team is even moderately successful. We just can't have another decade like we did from '01- '11.
There is, was, and will be only one nickname for this team. It's the one that is a natural. It's the one that rolls off the tongue, and it's the one most people remember. Go Johnnies !
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
I disagree that Stanford is well known for the tree. It may have been on a n espn commercial, but technically they don't have a mascot. They have a logo with a tree, but not a mascot. Somebody in the band just unofficially dresses up at football games.
But I do understand your point that having an identifiable mascot makes things easier. That's true. But there's no easy answer for St. John's anymore, no red hawk or redfoxes or anything like that.
Whether they go with storm or johnnies I'm pretty indifferent. I think both can work if the team is even moderately successful. We just can't have another decade like we did from '01- '11.
There is, was, and will be only one nickname for this team. It's the one that is a natural. It's the one that rolls off the tongue, and it's the one most people remember. Go Johnnies !
It's not my favorite, but it is the one name that we can never escape. Even in our Redmen days, people casually called us the Johnnies. We are what we are...
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I really could couldn't care less what our mascot is. I think mascots are overrated, and colleges become obsessed over them but they're not that necessary to develop a memorable brand.
Anybody seen a Yankee or Knickerbocker walking around recently? I haven't.
How much of Syracuse's stuff actually has a big orange on it? Very little. They're just Syracuse.
Stanford is technically the cardinal, and their logo includes a tree. They hardly ever refer to it or use it.
My soon to be wife went to Dartmouth, we have sweatshirts and crap all over my apartment and I still can't tell you what the Big Green are.
A Johnnie could be a person who plays basketball for St Johns, and I'd be fine with that. A player in a red jersey with a basketball - the end.
Eh, I can agree with you on most schools but Stanford is pretty well known for being a tree because of how unique it is. It was on a Sportscenter commercial maybe a year or 2 ago so it is even more well-known now. Cuse has a surprising amount of merchandise with Otto on it. Otto's head is the top part of winter hats, he is on shirts, he is on fitted hats, and I think he's pretty well-known too.
The Yankees don't have a mascot but it doesn't matter because they are the most successful pro franchise in pro sports history. The Knicks don't have one, but then again professional basketball doesn't seem to emphasize them in nearly the same way college does. Mascots are a big part of college sport culture. The key is to have one that is fairly unique and funny i.e. Western Kentucky's red blob. He got rated the best college mascot a few years ago on ESPN. I agree they aren't everything, but they certainly play a solid role at least for the college students and the brand identity. Otherwise they wouldn't waste thousands for the costume.
I disagree that Stanford is well known for the tree. It may have been on a n espn commercial, but technically they don't have a mascot. They have a logo with a tree, but not a mascot. Somebody in the band just unofficially dresses up at football games.
But I do understand your point that having an identifiable mascot makes things easier. That's true. But there's no easy answer for St. John's anymore, no red hawk or redfoxes or anything like that.
Whether they go with storm or johnnies I'm pretty indifferent. I think both can work if the team is even moderately successful. We just can't have another decade like we did from '01- '11.
There is, was, and will be only one nickname for this team. It's the one that is a natural. It's the one that rolls off the tongue, and it's the one most people remember. Go Johnnies !
It's not my favorite, but it is the one name that we can never escape. Even in our Redmen days, people casually called us the Johnnies. We are what we are...
Way back in the 1960's the opposition chants included "Flush the Johns"
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In the '90's I used to hear a lot of "Blow the Johns . . . Away!"
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In the '90's I used to hear a lot of "Blow the Johns . . . Away!"
Never heard any flushing or blowing and I go back to the 60's. Anyway it's Johnnies not Johns. It just rolls off the tongue so nicely.
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Sorry quick off topic here, but flushing reminded me...why does our campus list itself as Jamaica...isn't it technically Fresh Meadows?
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Technically I think its Hillcrest.
https://www.google.com/search?q=hillcrest+queens+new+york (https://www.google.com/search?q=hillcrest+queens+new+york)
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Sorry quick off topic here, but flushing reminded me...why does our campus list itself as Jamaica...isn't it technically Fresh Meadows?
Postal code.
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There is, was, and will be only one nickname for this team. It's the one that is a natural. It's the one that rolls off the tongue, and it's the one most people remember. Go Johnnies !
And this could be the mascot
(http://l.yimg.com/ck/image/A8089/80892/300_80892.jpg)
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And we won't even discuss the irony of our Catholic school adopting a nickname that Brits associate with condoms...
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Apparently the Nike sale SJ just had in the CA lobby included actual game issued jerseys?! Of course all the goodies they don't sell in the bookstore is sold at a discount when I can't make it >:(
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Apparently the Nike sale SJ just had in the CA lobby included actual game issued jerseys?! Of course all the goodies they don't sell in the bookstore is sold at a discount when I can't make it >:(
They are trying to get rid of the team stuff primarily. They still can sell off Nike stuff at retail but all the team items are rendered useless, hence the sale.
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Apparently the Nike sale SJ just had in the CA lobby included actual game issued jerseys?! Of course all the goodies they don't sell in the bookstore is sold at a discount when I can't make it >:(
They are trying to get rid of the team stuff primarily. They still can sell off Nike stuff at retail but all the team items are rendered useless, hence the sale.
Do you know what the real jerseys were going for? I feel like even with a sale those things would still be 70 bucks.
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Apparently the Nike sale SJ just had in the CA lobby included actual game issued jerseys?! Of course all the goodies they don't sell in the bookstore is sold at a discount when I can't make it >:(
They are trying to get rid of the team stuff primarily. They still can sell off Nike stuff at retail but all the team items are rendered useless, hence the sale.
Do you know what the real jerseys were going for? I feel like even with a sale those things would still be 70 bucks.
No idea. I didn't go
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Apparently the Nike sale SJ just had in the CA lobby included actual game issued jerseys?! Of course all the goodies they don't sell in the bookstore is sold at a discount when I can't make it >:(
They are trying to get rid of the team stuff primarily. They still can sell off Nike stuff at retail but all the team items are rendered useless, hence the sale.
Do you know what the real jerseys were going for? I feel like even with a sale those things would still be 70 bucks.
40% off I saw. Dont know what that would come to.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
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For uniforms next season I was told that all of the schools will regularly wear a throw back jersey to look like the uniforms of the school when the Big East first started. they will not be wron all the time but they will also not be a one time thing...
I just hope they update the shorts. . ha ha ha
**this was specifically Coach Lavin's idea too..
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For uniforms next season I was told that all of the schools will regularly wear a throw back jersey to look like the uniforms of the school when the Big East first started. they will not be wron all the time but they will also not be a one time thing...
I just hope they update the shorts. . ha ha ha
**this was specifically Coach Lavin's idea too..
Daddy Lav! I love the idea.
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For uniforms next season I was told that all of the schools will regularly wear a throw back jersey to look like the uniforms of the school when the Big East first started. they will not be wron all the time but they will also not be a one time thing...
I just hope they update the shorts. . ha ha ha
**this was specifically Coach Lavin's idea too..
Daddy Lav! I love the idea.
are the shorts going to be the "hot pants" length of the period that Chris would always pull up before a free throw
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Anybdy else here concerned wit the very angelo-saxon spellin of "armour."
We dealin wit united states americans or what?
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Anybdy else here concerned wit the very angelo-saxon spellin of "armour."
We dealin wit united states americans or what?
Choz - are you sure you want to challenge someone else's spelling in this fashion or are you just being humourus?
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Anybdy else here concerned wit the very angelo-saxon spellin of "armour."
We dealin wit united states americans or what?
They just put a bow tie on it. Classin it up a bit! Fwiw, I like that we are going with Under Armour. A bit of a fresh start for the conference as well as our image moving forward. Good timing to go with a company that has a bit more of a vision than what Nike was seeing for us.
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Anybdy else here concerned wit the very angelo-saxon spellin of "armour."
We dealin wit united states americans or what?
Choz - are you sure you want to challenge someone else's spelling in this fashion or are you just being humourus?
Who dis?
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
We're at most their #4 school, possibly 5 or 6.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
We're at most their #4 school, possibly 5 or 6.
Maryland and Auburn. Who's else is clearly ahead of us?
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
We're at most their #4 school, possibly 5 or 6.
Maryland and Auburn. Who's else is clearly ahead of us?
South Carolina.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
We're at most their #4 school, possibly 5 or 6.
Maryland and Auburn. Who's else is clearly ahead of us?
South Carolina.
South Carolina is debatable. In basketball we take it and its not like they have been a powerhouse in football. They have a program record of barely over 500.
Were definitely not their 1 or 2 overall, but you can best believe they are going to try to make a splash with our jerseys.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
We're at most their #4 school, possibly 5 or 6.
Maryland and Auburn. Who's else is clearly ahead of us?
South Carolina.
South Carolina is debatable. In basketball we take it and its not like they have been a powerhouse in football. They have a program record of barely over 500.
Were definitely not their 1 or 2 overall, but you can best believe they are going to try to make a splash with our jerseys.
Football is what matters though. So I would say Auburn, South Carolina, and Maryland are all ahead of us.
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they better upgrade their marketing department first. until they signed us i thought under armour was a company that did paint jobs under cars to prevent deterioration. (really!)
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Oh yea newsman? Did you also think Apple was a fruit distribution company and pagers were the latest in mobile communication?
Lets just hope UA puts out some great gear for us.
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they better upgrade their marketing department first. until they signed us i thought under armour was a company that did paint jobs under cars to prevent deterioration. (really!)
You joking? Under armor is everywhere in sports apparel. I think the under armor athletic apparel is more sought after than Nike stuff. Walk into a sporting goods store, and the under Armour stuff is right there with the Nike and Adidas stuff. Don't remember those "we must protect this house" commercials all the time? This isn't a company that has been in hiding.
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South Carolina is debatable. In basketball we take it and its not like they have been a powerhouse in football. They have a program record of barely over 500.
Were definitely not their 1 or 2 overall, but you can best believe they are going to try to make a splash with our jerseys.
They've finished in the Top 10 in football each of the past 2 seasons. One SEC game on CBS probably gets more viewers than all of our games combined.
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South Carolina is debatable. In basketball we take it and its not like they have been a powerhouse in football. They have a program record of barely over 500.
Were definitely not their 1 or 2 overall, but you can best believe they are going to try to make a splash with our jerseys.
They've finished in the Top 10 in football each of the past 2 seasons. One SEC game on CBS probably gets more viewers than all of our games combined.
Fair points stj11. I just don't think of them as a big name in either sport. Have had some very recent success in football so that could put us over the top. Maybe UA doesn't look at it that way.
Who else is in the running to be ahead of us? I can't really remember the list of schools I saw, remember temple was one. Which what be another debatable school but think we are ahead of them in terms of national brand.
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South Carolina is debatable. In basketball we take it and its not like they have been a powerhouse in football. They have a program record of barely over 500.
Were definitely not their 1 or 2 overall, but you can best believe they are going to try to make a splash with our jerseys.
They've finished in the Top 10 in football each of the past 2 seasons. One SEC game on CBS probably gets more viewers than all of our games combined.
Fair points stj11. I just don't think of them as a big name in either sport. Have had some very recent success in football so that could put us over the top. Maybe UA doesn't look at it that way.
Who else is in the running to be ahead of us? I can't really remember the list of schools I saw, remember temple was one. Which what be another debatable school but think we are ahead of them in terms of national brand.
Texas Tech and Northwestern were the others that were debatable in my opinion. Simply due to them playing football in big-time leagues with moderate success.
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South Carolina is debatable. In basketball we take it and its not like they have been a powerhouse in football. They have a program record of barely over 500.
Were definitely not their 1 or 2 overall, but you can best believe they are going to try to make a splash with our jerseys.
They've finished in the Top 10 in football each of the past 2 seasons. One SEC game on CBS probably gets more viewers than all of our games combined.
Fair points stj11. I just don't think of them as a big name in either sport. Have had some very recent success in football so that could put us over the top. Maybe UA doesn't look at it that way.
Who else is in the running to be ahead of us? I can't really remember the list of schools I saw, remember temple was one. Which what be another debatable school but think we are ahead of them in terms of national brand.
Texas Tech and Northwestern were the others that were debatable in my opinion. Simply due to them playing football in big-time leagues with moderate success.
All true that Football is more powerful but UA is trying to make serious inroads in bball. Summer circuit, grassroots, high schools. So from a bball perspective I think we are right behind obviously Maryland when it comes to the attention they can garner from us.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
We're at most their #4 school, possibly 5 or 6.
100% false. This is not about football. This is about basketball only. SJ is easily the #2 best basketball team they have signed. Not even close. Maryland is the only clear better team. Boston College and South Carolina suck.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
We're at most their #4 school, possibly 5 or 6.
100% false. This is not about football. This is about basketball only. SJ is easily the #2 best basketball team they have signed. Not even close. Maryland is the only clear better team. Boston College and South Carolina suck.
You said flagship school, not basketball team. In terms of basketball, yes I agree with you. In terms of overall athletic programs, it's not even close.
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Even with 40% off those jerseys were still probably at least $70 with tax and all. Don't have that kind of money for a jersey...wish they could make nice ones for $30.
By the way the SJ store website is totally redesigned. Looks pretty cool...wondering if this is part of the transformation of the rebranding. I'm still really curious if SJ is looking into getting a new logo.
Could you give a link joe. Not sure which website your talking about. Thanks
redstormsports.cbscollegestore.com
I think this is the website he is talking about. Looks great to me, finally expanding on their memorabilia inventory.
Yes that's the site I meant. Don't know what you meant by noticing an expanded memorabilia inventory...they haven't added anything new for months. All I noticed was the new style of the page. And the throwback jersey idea is awesome. I thought this should have been done years ago. I really hope UA will offer an authentic game-issue version of the jerseys to buy. Anyone hear about logo changes?
I haven't looked. How many schools sell game issued jerseys?
Well if not game-issue then "authentic" ones at least with stitching and all. I know Cuse, UConn, G'Town have done it. You can buy essentially real jerseys from UNC, Duke, Cuse, UConn, G'Town, Nova, etc. The only authentic jersey I know of out there is the 1985 Chris Mullin throwback from Nike and that's $150. Other than that the only people making near authentic ones are knock-off shady chinese places. I saw someone post a picture of a SJ jersey on Eastbay a few days ago. You would never see that today. Clearly our marketing and jerseys took a step backwards since Air Jordan. I would have liked us to get back with Air Jordan over UA but I'm also excited to see what UA can do for us being their clear #2 flagship school.
We're at most their #4 school, possibly 5 or 6.
100% false. This is not about football. This is about basketball only. SJ is easily the #2 best basketball team they have signed. Not even close. Maryland is the only clear better team. Boston College and South Carolina suck.
You said flagship school, not basketball team. In terms of basketball, yes I agree with you. In terms of overall athletic programs, it's not even close.
Then yes, clearly if you include football then things change significantly. But what sense does it make talking about UA football when we don't even have a team? It's a moot point IMO when we are clearly a basketball centric school. In terms of basketball we are the clear #2 and we are arguably the more dangerous team going into this season with more potential. I think SJ athletics overall are much better than you think they are. We are clearly a basketball school but our women's team made the sweet 16 last year, our soccer team is always among the top 25-30, our baseball team has long been among the best in the Big East barely missing the CWS last year, our lax team has been tremendous being in the top 25 the past 2 years and knocking off top 5 opponents including the #1 ND. Yes South Carolina is the clear better baseball and football school but we are better at lax, soccer, and women's hoops.
Temple lost nearly everyone and they are our closest competition IMO for #2 basketball school for UA. We should be the clear better team this year and may even beat out Maryland as the most relevant UA basketball team if all goes according to plan.
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I agree that we are currently probably 4th on their ladder but we have the HIGHEST potential because of the market that we are in. Under Armour should be investing well in our growth.
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I agree that we are currently probably 4th on their ladder but we have the HIGHEST potential because of the market that we are in. Under Armour should be investing well in our growth.
Who else is clearly above us other than Maryland for UA basketball? Did South Carolina and Northwestern get a few top 50 recruits overnight that I missed or something?
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I agree that we are currently probably 4th on their ladder but we have the HIGHEST potential because of the market that we are in. Under Armour should be investing well in our growth.
Who else is clearly above us other than Maryland for UA basketball? Did South Carolina and Northwestern get a few top 50 recruits overnight that I missed or something?
Nobody said anything about Northwestern. But I am speaking athletics overall. Football schools already have a bigger footprint than St. John's does. As I said though, we have the most potential or more room to grow than any school UA has because of the market that we are in. That's a good thing.
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I agree that we are currently probably 4th on their ladder but we have the HIGHEST potential because of the market that we are in. Under Armour should be investing well in our growth.
Agreed. Marketing people see the value in St. John's and NYC.
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they better upgrade their marketing department first. until they signed us i thought under armour was a company that did paint jobs under cars to prevent deterioration. (really!)
Been under a rock?
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i guess so. i'll admit i never go shopping for clothes. my wife dresses me.
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I agree that we are currently probably 4th on their ladder but we have the HIGHEST potential because of the market that we are in. Under Armour should be investing well in our growth.
Who else is clearly above us other than Maryland for UA basketball? Did South Carolina and Northwestern get a few top 50 recruits overnight that I missed or something?
Nobody said anything about Northwestern. But I am speaking athletics overall. Football schools already have a bigger footprint than St. John's does. As I said though, we have the most potential or more room to grow than any school UA has because of the market that we are in. That's a good thing.
Pretty sure football or not we have a bigger national footprint than Northwestern. I would put money on that. I hypothesize that someone could do a random guy on the street interview in all the states and more will recognize SJ than Northwestern. Remember we get 50,000 applications increasingly from further away too. Slowly but surely we are becoming known as a basetball school that can appeal to out of state students. People know St. John's because they know the Big East. Anyway, I don't want to talk about NCAAF...it's useless on a SJ forum when we are a clear cut basketball school. Might as well talk about fencing.
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Just leaked...this is the front runner so far as a UA prototype.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dd2w7m.jpg)
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Is this Joe's favorite thread?
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Just leaked...this is the front runner so far as a UA prototype.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dd2w7m.jpg)
Please tell me this is a joke? What is that? An apron?
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Just leaked...this is the front runner so far as a UA prototype.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dd2w7m.jpg)
Please tell me this is a joke? What is that? An apron?
I thought it was a picture of from Joe's wardrobe until I saw the size was a small instead of medium.
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Just leaked...this is the front runner so far as a UA prototype.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dd2w7m.jpg)
Please tell me this is a joke? What is that? An apron?
I thought it was a picture of from Joe's wardrobe until I saw the size was a small instead of medium.
As opposed to your XXL?
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Just leaked...this is the front runner so far as a UA prototype.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dd2w7m.jpg)
"Welcome to Beefsteak Charlie's. Can I get you started with some drinks?"
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Just leaked...this is the front runner so far as a UA prototype.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dd2w7m.jpg)
"Welcome to Beefsteak Charlie's. Can I get you started with some drinks?"
Beefsteak Johnnies. Unlimited salads and peel and eat shrimp
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Just leaked...this is the front runner so far as a UA prototype.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dd2w7m.jpg)
Very lax bro looking brah.
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St. John's will be getting a new logo too.
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I repeat.... please tell me that is a joke?
That can't possibly be a real jersey, right? That is the worst thing I've ever seen.
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I repeat.... please tell me that is a joke?
That can't possibly be a real jersey, right? That is the worst thing I've ever seen.
of course its a joke
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you can wear it while you're priming the underside of your car.
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Lol...it's just a joke I saw it on the bookstore website and couldn't resist...clearly the UNC argyle look does not flatter us...gave me a good laugh.
Anyway, Dave that's awesome so it's a definite done deal on the new logo huh? Very curious to see what it will look like
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i wonder how much changing the uniforms, tweaking colors, changing mascots, etc. multiple times in a relatively short period affects the st john's brand. at some point we need consistency there so that new fans/consumers can easily identify the "product"
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I thought it was photoshopped. Who would actually try to sell that piece if crap?
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I repeat.... please tell me that is a joke?
That can't possibly be a real jersey, right? That is the worst thing I've ever seen.
that picture by Joe was pretty freaking funny
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Speaking of switching names. Back and forth.
In a "stunning reversal of his first major decision as University of Hawaii athletic director, Ben Jay has changed course and will name all of Manoa's men's athletic teams Rainbow Warriors," according to Reardon & McInnis of the HONOLULU STAR-ADVERTISER. Jay became UH AD in January. In February, he announced that "all UH men's teams would be named Warriors, dropping Rainbows from those that still had it part of their name." Since '00, some had "been named Rainbows, some Warriors and some Rainbow Warriors." Jay said, "The only clear consensus on this topic over the last 13 years has been that a decision needed to be made to unify our men's teams under one nickname. That goal will still be accomplished as we retain the Rainbow and Warriors names, both of which are near and dear to the hearts of our fans, whom we represent." Jay in February said that the "various names caused confusion and a single name was needed for marketing and branding purposes." The women's teams "will remain Rainbow Wahine, as Jay originally decided." The football team had been "unofficially referred to as Rainbow Warriors prior to 2000, when football coach June Jones led a successful effort to officially change the name to just Warriors." Coaches were "allowed to choose the names of their teams, and volleyball, golf and tennis switched to Warriors, basketball and swimming and diving went to Rainbow Warriors and baseball remained Rainbows" (HONOLULU STAR-ADVERTISER, 5/15).
Jay at a news conference said that there are "no significant cost differences from the original plan with the football team changing" (AP, 5/14).
CBSSPORTS.com's Jerry Hinnen wrote, "With the 'rainbow' restored to the nickname, the next question for the football team becomes: will it abandon the black-and-green uniform motif associated with the 'Warriors' name and return to the bright-green-and-multicolored look from the decades prior?" (CBSSPORTS.com, 5/14).
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Rainbow Warriors?
Are they that stupid to not realize the constant hazing they will get for that name?
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Rainbow Warriors?
Are they that stupid to not realize the constant hazing they will get for that name?
Its been their name for years.
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If I was a Hawaii fan I'd be facepalming big time right now :idiot2:
I can see it now...someone bringing a giant poster of the gay guy's head from Reno 9-11 behind the hoop.
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If I was a Hawaii fan I'd be facepalming big time right now :idiot2:
I can see it now...someone bringing a giant poster of the gay guy's head from Reno 9-11 behind the hoop.
I know you're trying to be funny but this forum is not the place to discuss or make fun of people's sexual orientation. Please refrain. Consider this your only warning.
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If I was a Hawaii fan I'd be facepalming big time right now :idiot2:
I can see it now...someone bringing a giant poster of the gay guy's head from Reno 9-11 behind the hoop.
I know you're trying to be funny but this forum is not the place to discuss or make fun of people's sexual orientation. Please refrain. Consider this your only warning.
If you knew I was trying to be funny (which you were correct to assume), why even suggest I meant it maliciously? All I said was what I forsee happening, not any political stance or offensive terms. I can hear the eggshells crackling now as I tip toe ever so gingerly.
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We are being a bit over sensitive here lol
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If I was a Hawaii fan I'd be facepalming big time right now :idiot2:
I can see it now...someone bringing a giant poster of the gay guy's head from Reno 9-11 behind the hoop.
I know you're trying to be funny but this forum is not the place to discuss or make fun of people's sexual orientation. Please refrain. Consider this your only warning.
If you knew I was trying to be funny (which you were correct to assume), why even suggest I meant it maliciously? All I said was what I forsee happening, not any political stance or offensive terms. I can hear the eggshells crackling now as I tip toe ever so gingerly.
It doesn't matter how you meant it. There isn't a place for it here nor is it funny. I've shown you the door once, I have no problem doing it again. I'd prefer to not do that.
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Dave, it's a forum and no one tried to offend anyone...relax. Selective outrage is not a virtue and gets old fast. No sense witch hunting when there aren't any witches.
Anyway, do you have any idea when the new logo is coming out or is there no timetable? I would assume maybe sometime over the summer?
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Check out Lav rocking a UA shirt already!
http://Instagram.com/p/ZsumG_H9bW/ (http://Instagram.com/p/ZsumG_H9bW/)
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what a tease. lol the guy is partially blocking the logo. it appears though that it hasn't changed.
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what a tease. lol the guy is partially blocking the logo. it appears though that it hasn't changed.
I would think UA is going to get some basic logo'ed product with our current mark made for the team. The rebrand might take a little longer into the summer and the staff and team will need stuff for Europe and recruiting so you will probably see the current mark for a bit, before the season.
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Do you think coach gets a contract of his own to endorse UA and wear the product publicly?
I'm thinking he might. I don't think I've ever seen Calipari not wearing Nike, and he's done a few commercials for them. Same for Chip Kelly with Addidas and Spurrier and UA (different sports but similar situations I would imagine).
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I'm glad the subject was changed to stop the arguing. I had my fill of that during the Norm Roberts era.
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I just hope that UA gives fans some options to purchase gear to wear. The same old crap that I have in my closet is so boring.
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The same old crap that they sell on the St. John's websites are boring. >:(
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I ordered 5 things from the website and then like 2 days later I get an email saying my order was cancelled. When I asked why, I was told that the website is out of date and all the items I selected and bought were sold out. Don't know why i bother
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Don't worry. UA is making a lot of good moves lately.
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I ordered 5 things from the website and then like 2 days later I get an email saying my order was cancelled. When I asked why, I was told that the website is out of date and all the items I selected and bought were sold out. Don't know why i bother
Did you order medium ?
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I ordered 5 things from the website and then like 2 days later I get an email saying my order was cancelled. When I asked why, I was told that the website is out of date and all the items I selected and bought were sold out. Don't know why i bother
Did you order medium ?
;D
I don't think patrick is liny89/Johnnies11/Joe3/RedStormyNight/Sheeeed13/Ben. He's been a member since the site first opened in 2007.
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I ordered 5 things from the website and then like 2 days later I get an email saying my order was cancelled. When I asked why, I was told that the website is out of date and all the items I selected and bought were sold out. Don't know why i bother
Did you order medium ?
;D
I don't think patrick is liny89/Johnnies11/Joe3/RedStormyNight/Sheeeed13/Ben. He's been a member since the site first opened in 2007.
Nah I know. Just joking. I think I actually know this Patrick if this is the one from connecticut
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If I was a Hawaii fan I'd be facepalming big time right now :idiot2:
I can see it now...someone bringing a giant poster of the gay guy's head from Reno 9-11 behind the hoop.
I know you're trying to be funny but this forum is not the place to discuss or make fun of people's sexual orientation. Please refrain. Consider this your only warning.
If you knew I was trying to be funny (which you were correct to assume), why even suggest I meant it maliciously? All I said was what I forsee happening, not any political stance or offensive terms. I can hear the eggshells crackling now as I tip toe ever so gingerly.
It doesn't matter how you meant it. There isn't a place for it here nor is it funny. I've shown you the door once, I have no problem doing it again. I'd prefer to not do that.
The King has spoken - don't dare to question him..!!
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Well, it's his house. You don't like it, build your own. Oh wait, yours got given away in foreclosure to Fun. LOL
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Under Armour® Protect This House (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB06g-C1nPw#)
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How appropriate
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so what day is this going to be officially announced?
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I ordered 5 things from the website and then like 2 days later I get an email saying my order was cancelled. When I asked why, I was told that the website is out of date and all the items I selected and bought were sold out. Don't know why i bother
Did you order medium ?
;D
I don't think patrick is liny89/Johnnies11/Joe3/RedStormyNight/Sheeeed13/Ben. He's been a member since the site first opened in 2007.
Nah I know. Just joking. I think I actually know this Patrick if this is the one from connecticut
it is and I didn't
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Does anyone know when the jersey's are going to be released?
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Tweet from former CBS, now ESPN college football writer ... not sure why he's writing about us, but:
Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN 6m
St. John's will have 6-year apparel & equipment deal w/Under Armour July 1 ending 20-year relationship w/Nike
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Tweet from former CBS, now ESPN college football writer ... not sure why he's writing about us, but:
Brett McMurphy @McMurphyESPN 6m
St. John's will have 6-year apparel & equipment deal w/Under Armour July 1 ending 20-year relationship w/Nike
Maybe he thinks we have a football program (St. John's of Minnesota?). :)
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New Unis?
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It's nothing different and probably just a hold over for the summer tour. They are designing new uni's and that's probably just a band aid to get thru the summer tour and launch the big debuts when more eyes are on everything when school starts
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New Unis?
Above was taken down and replaced with a pic of two guys in Gtown Unis...
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New Unis?
Looks like it. But I don't think I've ever seen the guy wearing #21 before. Am I wrong?
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New Unis?
Looks good. Not a huge difference, just some nice changes here and there.
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New Unis?
Looks like it. But I don't think I've ever seen the guy wearing #21 before. Am I wrong?
Yeah I had no clue who he was.
Also I didn't see any changes at all. You did?
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New Unis?
Looks good. Not a huge difference, just some nice changes here and there.
There are more changes. Pretty sure its just a holdover for now.
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New Unis?
Looks like it. But I don't think I've ever seen the guy wearing #21 before. Am I wrong?
Yeah I had no clue who he was.
Also I didn't see any changes at all. You did?
So I believe you if you say that this is just to get the team through summer, and the real debut would be closer to the fall. Makes sense.
But to answer your question, (after making my browser 150%) yes, I did notice some things.
No black and white stripe on the shoulder blades. Instead a white stripe around the collar.
Also a white stripe and rivets going down the side under the armpit. Logo is exactly the same though.
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New Unis?
Looks like it. But I don't think I've ever seen the guy wearing #21 before. Am I wrong?
Yeah I had no clue who he was.
Also I didn't see any changes at all. You did?
Looks like they took out most of the black, especially at the top of the uniform, like in this pic:
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1286274!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/sampsonweb13s-1-web.jpg)
And we have lines with check marks down the sides similar to Marylands jersey:
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/544/992/hi-res-140941776_crop_650x440.jpg?1346120430)
This could all be a placeholder, but maybe not since it looks like they took it down.
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New Unis?
Looks like it. But I don't think I've ever seen the guy wearing #21 before. Am I wrong?
Yeah I had no clue who he was.
Also I didn't see any changes at all. You did?
There's a checkered pattern down the right side.
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Thanks I couldn't zoom in really. I saw some vague piping on the side. Black is gone because as it was speculated blue would be inserted instead.
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Thanks I couldn't zoom in really. I saw some vague piping on the side. Black is gone because as it was speculated blue would be inserted instead.
Yes!
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Larger look at the uniform.
(http://i.imgur.com/QZ8VzqR.png)
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Georgetown recruiting the Jersey Shore hard these days, huh? :D
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Larger look at the uniform.
(http://i.imgur.com/QZ8VzqR.png)
I wish I could see a little more leg. No Roy Hibbert
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^^^^ Not the uniforms. I've seen all the uniforms for next season.
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^^^^ Not the uniforms. I've seen all the uniforms for next season.
Do you approve of what you've seen?
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^^^^ Not the uniforms. I've seen all the uniforms for next season.
Do you approve of what you've seen?
Different.
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^^^^ Not the uniforms. I've seen all the uniforms for next season.
Do you approve of what you've seen?
Different.
Oh boy. I think that's saying something considering Dave isn't exactly the most traditionalist among us.
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“@Isaiah_W15: Flavors !!! @UAassociation http://twitter.com/Isaiah_W15/status/347781830008791041/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/Isaiah_W15/status/347781830008791041/photo/1)”
Do our new unis have to match all of these colors? Yikes
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camo
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They should go retro style... back to the 80s look, minus the tiny shorts.
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They should go retro style... back to the 80s look, minus the tiny shorts.
You are onto something
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They should go retro style... back to the 80s look, minus the tiny shorts.
You are onto something
Good
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Maybe have a sewn in red tee under the tank top. Ala Mullin.
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Maybe have a sewn in red tee under the tank top. Ala Mullin.
Have to disagree with you. Hate the sewn in look.
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You should disagree with me. Its a horrible idea.
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^^^^ Not the uniforms. I've seen all the uniforms for next season.
Do you approve of what you've seen?
Different.
Different is fine. Even a little controversial is fine. Winning is different for us too. I'm on board whatever they look like for the sake of change. We may all hate em, but it isn't like SJU jerseys are jumping off the shelves now. I just want to see our unis plastered all over the NCAA tourney...
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i imagine our sneakers will look something like this. i like that UA takes chances with the designs.
http://www.underarmour.com/shop/us/en/mens/footwear/basketball-shoes (http://www.underarmour.com/shop/us/en/mens/footwear/basketball-shoes)
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i imagine our sneakers will look something like this. i like that UA takes chances with the designs.
http://www.underarmour.com/shop/us/en/mens/footwear/basketball-shoes (http://www.underarmour.com/shop/us/en/mens/footwear/basketball-shoes)
Those all look like shoes Mil Mascaras would have worn in the ring.
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They should go retro style... back to the 80s look, minus the tiny shorts.
1 of many. Really focused on going back to the roots of Redmen.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_outfits_itself_with_dream_CQPgOoiX9GVxFwNFxGkbVK (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_outfits_itself_with_dream_CQPgOoiX9GVxFwNFxGkbVK)
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_outfits_itself_with_dream_CQPgOoiX9GVxFwNFxGkbVK (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_outfits_itself_with_dream_CQPgOoiX9GVxFwNFxGkbVK)
Wow... Sounds great for us and certainly good timing. New Big East, our resurgent program etc.
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Cool but we all know that this best marketin is slammin yo opponents into oblivion anytime anywhere.
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Cool but we all know that this best marketin is slammin yo opponents into oblivion anytime anywhere.
Agree there, which is why I think it is good timing. I think we are getting an extra marketing boost at a time that we are poised to be pretty good.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_outfits_itself_with_dream_CQPgOoiX9GVxFwNFxGkbVK (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_outfits_itself_with_dream_CQPgOoiX9GVxFwNFxGkbVK)
Lenny must have really burned up the phone lines the last few months for that scoop... LOL!!!"
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I really wanna see these jerseys already. Are we also getting a new logo? Has that been confirmed?
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These are exciting times for the STJ basketball program. With fox starting up their sports network and in need of programing, and now UA getting into the fray and in need of programs to sponsor, being in the largest media market, we are poised to becoming both companies flagship program to promote their brand. We're talking about highly capitalized companies who will be throwing plenty of it our way and no one better to take advantage of this opportunity than Coach Lavin. He said this was a sleeping giant, now I believe the whole basketball community will start to see it as well.
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Seize the opportunity.
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The move from STJ to SJU is official, love it. Although now I have to change my username ;)
Torch Newspaper @STJTorch 48m
.@STJNow tweet confirms switch to SJU. The University's change from STJ back to SJU is part of the school's rebranding process - sources.
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The move from STJ to SJU is official, love it. Although now I have to change my username ;)
Torch Newspaper @STJTorch 48m
.@STJNow tweet confirms switch to SJU. The University's change from STJ back to SJU is part of the school's rebranding process - sources.
Finally.. always called it SJU
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Now they HAVE to get rid of that stupid logo!
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Is there any chance we change our name to the Red Men? With no Indian logo or mascot or anything like that. Just a team that wears red. Make it two words to avoid any confusion regarding the Indians. The rumors about the name change, getting rid of the Thunderbird, going back to SJU and the uni's looking like the 80's unis have me thinking this may be an actual possibility.
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I'll probably sound like an idiot worrying about this, but what does this do for our twitter presence as well our #stjbb?
are we now #sjubb or does St. Joes have that?
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Also, there has been a lot of confusion regarding St. Joseph's allegedly trademarking SJU and that being the reason we were not allowed to use it. St. John's actually has the SJU trademark for merchandise. St. Joe's registered the domain name SJU.edu and St. John's/Nike made the decision to switch to STJ to avoid the confusion of people searching for SJU then going to the St. Joe's website.
This is an interesting article that the Torch had in 2006 regarding the issue . http://www.torchonline.com/uncategorized/2006/04/26/sju-vs-stj-new-logo-new-look-2/ (http://www.torchonline.com/uncategorized/2006/04/26/sju-vs-stj-new-logo-new-look-2/)
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Seize the opportunity.
Like I say.
More to come.
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Also, there has been a lot of confusion regarding St. Joseph's allegedly trademarking SJU and that being the reason we were not allowed to use it. St. John's actually has the SJU trademark for merchandise. St. Joe's registered the domain name SJU.edu and St. John's/Nike made the decision to switch to STJ to avoid the confusion of people searching for SJU then going to the St. Joe's website.
This is an interesting article that the Torch had in 2006 regarding the issue . http://www.torchonline.com/uncategorized/2006/04/26/sju-vs-stj-new-logo-new-look-2/ (http://www.torchonline.com/uncategorized/2006/04/26/sju-vs-stj-new-logo-new-look-2/)
Interesting. So this was Nike's big idea, the STJ thing? Glad we switched to Under Armour. Love that we are SJU again!! Now if only we could bring back the Redmen, I'd be thrilled. No need for Native mascots or anything. Johnny Thunderbird is fine with me. I won't get my hopes up, but would love to get back to our roots.
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“@DalyDoseOfHoops: I address the whole St. John's rebranding scenario here...sorry for rambling on. http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2013/06/st-johns-to-revert-to-sju.html (http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2013/06/st-johns-to-revert-to-sju.html) #stjbb #STJ #SJU”
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More excellent news. STJ was ridiculous from jump as everyone knows.
SJU Johnnies
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
I don't mind it.. Red Storm sucks.
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
I don't mind it.. Red Storm sucks.
St. John's Johnnies just doesn't sound right.
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
It was said by others before as well. Seems like all the recommendations that were given were accepted by admin.
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I refer to them as the "Johnnies" most of the time now anyway. The " Johnnies of St. John's" sounds better than the other way around..
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
St. John's Johnnies just doesn't sound right.
No but the Johnnies of St. John's is what we are, were, and always will be.
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"Johnnies" works for me.
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This is what happen when the amateurs step aside.
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red storm would have been okay if it wasn't for the tradition of losing we've all attached it to.
johnnys is fine. ncaa would never allow red men, so forget it.
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johnnys is fine. ncaa would never allow red men, so forget it.
http://athletics.carthage.edu/ (http://athletics.carthage.edu/)
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
I don't mind it.. Red Storm sucks.
I'm with you Boo. Seems fine to me. And if we win I'm sure it'll grow on me a lot faster.
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
I don't mind it.. Red Storm sucks.
I always thought that Johnnies sucks. I have never and will never call them Johnnies (although it's not bad as Bonnies). Johnnies sounds like a 6th grade boys team. I have always loved Red Storm. It's a colorful name that suggests a lot of action. I never liked Redmen. Boring dull name.
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Like the johnnies and SJU.
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If they make it to the Final Four they can be called the "Dildos" for all I care...
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I aprove. You are good to proceed.
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Not sure I like johnnies. But then again I hated the red storm but got use to it. I would love to go back to the Redmen. Maybe with Harrington gone they will. Other than that I can't think of any name that I would like. So if its not Redmen I'm in Boos camp of I don't care as long as we get to the final 4.
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How about just "Red"
It works for Cuse
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If they make it to the Final Four they can be called the "Dildos" for all I care...
Yes, but if our name was St. Dildo's, would you want the nickname to be the Dildos? Or would it sound really dumb?
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I envision opposing fans holding up pics of toilets and port-a-potties. Can't wait.
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Someone grow a pair and return us to Redmen!
Johnnies is a horrible idea.
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I love the changes. So far we've been getting a lot of good things our way, with seemingly a big boost in our marketing coming our way.
Now I'd love to be called the Redmen too, but you have to think that with all of this good publicity we are gaining, if its worth it to get negative publicity our way. I don't think it it and I think we should just keep climbing upwards as a program instead of taking unnecessary risks.
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Someone grow a pair and return us to Redmen!
Johnnies is a horrible idea.
almost all my friends who are not from St. John's refers to us as the Johnnies. any thing other than the Red Storm, sounds artificial.
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SJU Johnnies is perfect.
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Hearing our nickname is changing to the Johnnies
I don't mind it.. Red Storm sucks.
I always thought that Johnnies sucks. I have never and will never call them Johnnies (although it's not bad as Bonnies). Johnnies sounds like a 6th grade boys team. I have always loved Red Storm. It's a colorful name that suggests a lot of action. I never liked Redmen. Boring dull name.
Wow! I think you're one of a kind on all three names :laugh:
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I envision opposing fans holding up pics of toilets and port-a-potties. Can't wait.
Sounds like you were around in the '60's. I went undergrad to Manhattan and remember the buttons we wore for games against the Redmen reading Flush the Johns. Been an SJU supporter/season ticket holder since the '70's and would prefer Redmen as the name. As an Irishman, I was always offended by the Excuse's Orangemen name as they were the ones persecuting us Catholics in Northern Ireland even to this day.
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more glimpses of some UA design updates
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1045006_450787791684885_733080458_n.jpg
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Someone grow a pair and return us to Redmen!
Johnnies is a horrible idea.
They is a certain irony at play here.
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I can't believe how many posters have no problem with the way the St. John's Johnnies sounds. It makes me want to vomit blood.
It's fine if Bill Raftery want to call us that during games, but to make it the official name is ridiculous.
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I can't believe how many posters have no problem with the way the St. John's Johnnies sounds. It makes me want to vomit blood.
It's fine if Bill Raftery want to call us that during games, but to make it the official name is ridiculous.
Doc Holiday? Donate blood instead. Lol
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I can't believe how many posters have no problem with the way the St. John's Johnnies sounds. It makes me want to vomit blood.
It's fine if Bill Raftery want to call us that during games, but to make it the official name is ridiculous.
Lav has called us the Johnnies since his initial press conference. Can't recall him ever referring to his team as anything else.
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more glimpses of some UA design updates
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1045006_450787791684885_733080458_n.jpg
Looks like a nice jacket. Anyone know if we should expect a big unveil on July 1?
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more glimpses of some UA design updates
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1045006_450787791684885_733080458_n.jpg
Looks like a nice jacket. Anyone know if we should expect a big unveil on July 1?
No
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Lav has called us the Johnnies since his initial press conference. Can't recall him ever referring to his team as anything else.
So that means we need to make the change official? It's a dumb name.
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@QSTJHoops 3m
St. John's sent out an email to all students this afternoon notifying of a graphic branding change to appear on the website tmrw. #stjbb
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Lav has called us the Johnnies since his initial press conference. Can't recall him ever referring to his team as anything else.
So that means we need to make the change official? It's a dumb name.
Not what I said. Just presenting a fact
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Lav has called us the Johnnies since his initial press conference. Can't recall him ever referring to his team as anything else.
So that means we need to make the change official? It's a dumb name.
Not what I said. Just presenting a fact
Does he call us the St. John's Johnnies every time, or just the Johnnies?
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Lav has called us the Johnnies since his initial press conference. Can't recall him ever referring to his team as anything else.
So that means we need to make the change official? It's a dumb name.
Not what I said. Just presenting a fact
Does he call us the St. John's Johnnies every time, or just the Johnnies?
I'm really not a fan of it mostly based on what people have said. The constantly changing. The repetitiveness. But also look at Gonzaga. They are the Zags. Its great to have a secondary name like Johnnies. But should have just left Red Storm and made a bigger push on the secondary name.
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As a secondary name it's fine. It rolls off the tongue, everyone knows who you are talking about, etc.
But as far as rebranding, I would have done the Syracuse thing no question.
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I want to wait and see what they use for a logo, and how it's presented.
That will have a lot to do with how people perceive the new nickname.
On the face of it though I think Jonnies is fine, it's certainly better than Redstorm, but LJSA brings up some good points.
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just think of it like this.
"New York, New York, a city so nice, they named it twice."
"Johnnies of St. John's" is 100x better than Red Storm. I've always referred to them as the Johnnies.
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I can't believe how many posters have no problem with the way the St. John's Johnnies sounds. It makes me want to vomit blood.
It's fine if Bill Raftery want to call us that during games, but to make it the official name is ridiculous.
I am 100% with you on this. As a secondary nickname, referring to us as the Johnnies is ok. i do it. But as the official name The St. John's Johnnies sounds so stupid. I hate it.
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“@DMartinCSN: Also among those at Under Armour Undeniable Grindsession this weekend in LA will be St. John's Jamal Branch and Sir'Dominic Pointer. #stjbb”
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They will be called the Johnnies of St. John's.. No one will say St. John's Johnnies... Believe me. I'm all for it..
The Red Storm name has been pretty much bad luck since it began.. I like the fresh start.
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full roster. Whitehead will be there too.
hopefully they're on the same flight ;) :up: :angel:
http://www.csnbaltimore.com/ncaa-maryland-terps/maryland-commits-romelo-trimble-jared-nickens-ua-camp (http://www.csnbaltimore.com/ncaa-maryland-terps/maryland-commits-romelo-trimble-jared-nickens-ua-camp)
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Lav has called us the Johnnies since his initial press conference. Can't recall him ever referring to his team as anything else.
So that means we need to make the change official? It's a dumb name.
Not what I said. Just presenting a fact
Does he call us the St. John's Johnnies every time, or just the Johnnies?
I'm really not a fan of it mostly based on what people have said. The constantly changing. The repetitiveness. But also look at Gonzaga. They are the Zags. Its great to have a secondary name like Johnnies. But should have just left Red Storm and made a bigger push on the secondary name.
Gonzaga are the Bulldogs, the Zags is a standalone nickname, as the term Johnnies should be.
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Lav has called us the Johnnies since his initial press conference. Can't recall him ever referring to his team as anything else.
So that means we need to make the change official? It's a dumb name.
Not what I said. Just presenting a fact
Does he call us the St. John's Johnnies every time, or just the Johnnies?
I'm really not a fan of it mostly based on what people have said. The constantly changing. The repetitiveness. But also look at Gonzaga. They are the Zags. Its great to have a secondary name like Johnnies. But should have just left Red Storm and made a bigger push on the secondary name.
Gonzaga are the Bulldogs, the Zags is a standalone nickname, as the term Johnnies should be.
Uh that was my point.
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What they really should have done was listen to all the fans, history and everything else and go back to Redmen, or Red Men without a Native mascot. Johnnies as a secondary name. That is what the fans want. I don't know why that is so difficult to go back to, when it was never Native American in origin to begin with. The University could have out out some press as to the origin of the Redmen name and assertion that there is no link to Native American denigration in it's original intended origin.
The Johnnies is fair, but the fans, alums and everybody else want the Redmen back. That is our name... It starts and ends there..
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The idea of rebranding athletics was thrown in after the process had begun for the University’s academic side. Because of that, there is no possibility of any changes being ready for the fall semester – even the current interlocking STJ athletics logo. But both Sammartino and vice president of external relations Dominic Scianna said that a rollout of new athletic features could be ready as soon as early 2014.
“The problem with athletics is that the uniforms are being made now,” Sammartino said. “There’s no way we can play catch-up. If everything goes well, we may be able to pull something off maybe after January. All may not be lost for a rollout this year, but it’s definitely in the process.”
Scianna said that the start of the new Big East conference gave the University a reason to hold off for a little while longer on the athletics side.
“It’s late in the game certainly to kind of change branding,” he said. “That was the impetus to wait on this and get it in a neat kind of bundle once the season rolls on and possibly earlier [next year].
“@Kieran_Lynch: Survey will be sent out regarding athletics branding possibly by next Monday to all St. John's community. #stjbb http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/ (http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/)”
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Who ever thought that SJU ;D would be making headlines in June...
A lot of new traditional things happening.
New Big East, back to traditional BB roots
New initials back to traditional SJU
Redmen would be icing on the cake
Old is new again and hopefully that means we bring back our winning tradition!
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We could always drop our "official" nickname and just be St. John's. Johnnies can be our unofficial nickname...that's how Redmen started.
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Anyone who thinks Redmen are coming back needs to puff and pass or put the pipe down.
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Does anyone think Red Storm is better than Johnnies? I'm shocked at the reaction by some posters. "SJU Johnnies" is exactly where this needs to go
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Lav has called us the Johnnies since his initial press conference. Can't recall him ever referring to his team as anything else.
So that means we need to make the change official? It's a dumb name.
Not what I said. Just presenting a fact
Does he call us the St. John's Johnnies every time, or just the Johnnies?
I'm really not a fan of it mostly based on what people have said. The constantly changing. The repetitiveness. But also look at Gonzaga. They are the Zags. Its great to have a secondary name like Johnnies. But should have just left Red Storm and made a bigger push on the secondary name.
Gonzaga are the Bulldogs, the Zags is a standalone nickname, as the term Johnnies should be.
Uh that was my point.
Well, now that I actually read your post, yes it was. I am so predisposed to hating the term Red Storm that I take every post to be the statement of a new name. Sorry.
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The idea of rebranding athletics was thrown in after the process had begun for the University’s academic side. Because of that, there is no possibility of any changes being ready for the fall semester – even the current interlocking STJ athletics logo. But both Sammartino and vice president of external relations Dominic Scianna said that a rollout of new athletic features could be ready as soon as early 2014.
“The problem with athletics is that the uniforms are being made now,” Sammartino said. “There’s no way we can play catch-up. If everything goes well, we may be able to pull something off maybe after January. All may not be lost for a rollout this year, but it’s definitely in the process.”
Scianna said that the start of the new Big East conference gave the University a reason to hold off for a little while longer on the athletics side.
“It’s late in the game certainly to kind of change branding,” he said. “That was the impetus to wait on this and get it in a neat kind of bundle once the season rolls on and possibly earlier [next year].
“@Kieran_Lynch: Survey will be sent out regarding athletics branding possibly by next Monday to all St. John's community. #stjbb http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/ (http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/)”
This is the rollout strategy huh? Shockingly bad, but emblematic of the marketing of the last decade. Typical SJU, I mean STJ I mean Redmen, I mean Red Storm I mean whatever the F we are in the fall, or winter or 2014
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The idea of rebranding athletics was thrown in after the process had begun for the University’s academic side. Because of that, there is no possibility of any changes being ready for the fall semester – even the current interlocking STJ athletics logo. But both Sammartino and vice president of external relations Dominic Scianna said that a rollout of new athletic features could be ready as soon as early 2014.
“The problem with athletics is that the uniforms are being made now,” Sammartino said. “There’s no way we can play catch-up. If everything goes well, we may be able to pull something off maybe after January. All may not be lost for a rollout this year, but it’s definitely in the process.”
Scianna said that the start of the new Big East conference gave the University a reason to hold off for a little while longer on the athletics side.
“It’s late in the game certainly to kind of change branding,” he said. “That was the impetus to wait on this and get it in a neat kind of bundle once the season rolls on and possibly earlier [next year].
“@Kieran_Lynch: Survey will be sent out regarding athletics branding possibly by next Monday to all St. John's community. #stjbb http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/ (http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/)”
This is the rollout strategy huh? Shockingly bad, but emblematic of the marketing of the last decade. Typical SJU, I mean STJ I mean Redmen, I mean Red Storm I mean whatever the F we are in the fall, or winter or 2014
Little disappointing to hear how long the roll-out would take. I know I've done overhauls in a lot less time. I knew the summer was no hope but I figured start of bball they would have something. Maybe fall sports got stuck with old marks. Disappointed but not surprised since we know how things go or don't go most of the time on Union and Utopia.
I know Joe is anxious looks like he's going to need to take deep breaths waiting for this.
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Little disappointing to hear how long the roll-out would take. I know I've done overhauls in a lot less time. I knew the summer was no hope but I figured start of bball they would have something. Maybe fall sports got stuck with old marks. Disappointed but not surprised since we know how things go or don't go most of the time on Union and Utopia.
I know Joe is anxious looks like he's going to need to take deep breaths waiting for this.
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They say the roll out takes long. But has the contract with UA been signed? I know its all but done, but still. Working without a contract? Just saying find it weird.
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Yeah, I'd rather the changes be here for this basketball season but I suppose it's better to take their time and get things right than to hastily throw together some uniforms and an athletics logo and have to change it again in 8 years.
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Roll-outs take time yes but honestly things can get done in as little as 90 days provided people are diligent about approvals and vetting designs thru the chain of command. The contract starts July 1st.
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Yeah, I'd rather the changes be here for this basketball season but I suppose it's better to take their time and get things right than to hastily throw together some uniforms and an athletics logo and have to change it again in 8 years.
If thats the case lets think long and hard about the nickname because that could be looked at again. If anything that might be rushed. I'd be fine if UA just re-did our uni's from this past year like the leaked picture showed and we ran with that for the season.
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Wile these things take time, sometimes it's important to get the ball rolling prior to July 31st...
It doesn't make any sense to have a patient, well planned, coherent, citywide, campus-wide launch for both Academics and Athletics. Why take advantage of the globally recognized men's basketball program when you can send out a Wednesday afternoon email to students on summer break? After all, uniforms are already being made for the women's cross country program! Besides, apparel and marketing deals that bring unprecedented exposure to the 13-40yr old spending power demo isn't the time to be proactive with a strategy. We did, after all, have the SJU trademark prior to letting it go. You know, we voted for it before voting against it.
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I am a big fan of SJU, the new logos, moving away from black and bringing back the blue. But, please keep Redstorm and Johnny Thunderbird as the mascot.
in 2011 I used to love hearing the Redhot Redstorm!!!
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Does anyone think Red Storm is better than Johnnies? I'm shocked at the reaction by some posters. "SJU Johnnies" is exactly where this needs to go
I don't like Red Storm but prefer it to Johnnies. SJU Johnnies is atrocious. Johnnies is fine as an informal nickname...but wow please no SJU Johnnies.
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Um is it just me or are these two logos not very similar to one another.... so much for distinction
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St. Joe's is probably pretty upset about this. The font on our new University logo is nearly identical to theirs.
(http://www2.sju.edu/images/sjucircled.png)
(http://www.torchonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Screen-shot-2013-06-26-at-7.59.17-PM.png)
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I see blue.... I like it! Hopefully it makes it's way back into our logo/uniforms. Blue is the new black. It's all the rage these days
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Has anybody confirmed " Johnnies " as our new name??? or are they just going to market Red Storm and Johnnies?? I would just prefer SJU Red
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Dave on the job;
“@TheBBallDiary: Under Armour LA Undeniable Grind Session event INFO + participant ROSTER http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2013/06/2013-under-armour-los-angeles.html (http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2013/06/2013-under-armour-los-angeles.html)
@UAassociation @UAbasketball @DaveKrupinski”
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The idea of rebranding athletics was thrown in after the process had begun for the University’s academic side. Because of that, there is no possibility of any changes being ready for the fall semester – even the current interlocking STJ athletics logo. But both Sammartino and vice president of external relations Dominic Scianna said that a rollout of new athletic features could be ready as soon as early 2014.
“The problem with athletics is that the uniforms are being made now,” Sammartino said. “There’s no way we can play catch-up. If everything goes well, we may be able to pull something off maybe after January. All may not be lost for a rollout this year, but it’s definitely in the process.”
Scianna said that the start of the new Big East conference gave the University a reason to hold off for a little while longer on the athletics side.
“It’s late in the game certainly to kind of change branding,” he said. “That was the impetus to wait on this and get it in a neat kind of bundle once the season rolls on and possibly earlier [next year].
“@Kieran_Lynch: Survey will be sent out regarding athletics branding possibly by next Monday to all St. John's community. #stjbb http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/ (http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/)”
This is the rollout strategy huh? Shockingly bad, but emblematic of the marketing of the last decade. Typical SJU, I mean STJ I mean Redmen, I mean Red Storm I mean whatever the F we are in the fall, or winter or 2014
Little disappointing to hear how long the roll-out would take. I know I've done overhauls in a lot less time. I knew the summer was no hope but I figured start of bball they would have something. Maybe fall sports got stuck with old marks. Disappointed but not surprised since we know how things go or don't go most of the time on Union and Utopia.
I know Joe is anxious looks like he's going to need to take deep breaths waiting for this.
I'm just glad UA finally connected with both of my teams in red. Things are looking up big time. I go off the grid and bam, it happens. I've been waiting for this :)
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Anyone who thinks Redmen are coming back needs to puff and pass or put the pipe down.
I know it probably won't, but I just don't see the rationale of avoiding it? Just reinvent or "re-brand" it without insulting anybody. We were the Redmen because we had red uniforms... Period. Just avoid any Native American references and I really don't see why it shouldn't or can't be done. Once again, it is the only name that gets near consensus from fans and alums. It is the name that every SJU person wants.
The University goes through all types of contortions and great pains to feed us names and mascots we don't want. We had the right name, but decided to hide it like a dirty secret instead of just dropping the Indian mascot. Everybody wants the Redmen.
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Losing the Redmen name is another blow inflicted by Father Harrington. This was one of the many errors in judment he made, and he ultimately paid for them.
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Anyone who thinks Redmen are coming back needs to puff and pass or put the pipe down.
So I guess what you are saying is that ship has sailed. :) ;)
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Anyone who thinks Redmen are coming back needs to puff and pass or put the pipe down.
So I guess what you are saying is that ship has sailed. :) ;)
Yea and if things change 2 months or 2 yrs from now feel free to call me out on it
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I have been trying to bring back Redmen in the form of our student section. I would like four our student section currently known as "The Redzone" to be known as the "RedZone Redmen" similar to the "Cameron Crazies"
This is the only way Redmen will ever come back.
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WE should have never given up the nickname, I don't really recall the Native American community hammering us. Getting rid of the Indian logo should have sufficed
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Redmen not coming back. The association with Native American mascot, which essentially made it a quasi-slur ruined it. Never should have happened but it did, now its tainted and cant go back to the way it was before the unfortunate Native American association.
The closest realistic thing would be going the rout Syracuse did and adopting "Red" as the name.
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Redmen not coming back. The association with Native American mascot, which essentially made it a quasi-slur ruined it. Never should have happened but it did, now its tainted and cant go back to the way it was before the unfortunate Native American association.
The closest realistic thing would be going the rout Syracuse did and adopting "Red" as the name.
I like the St. John's "Red". Simple.
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I have been trying to bring back Redmen in the form of our student section. I would like four our student section currently known as "The Redzone" to be known as the "RedZone Redmen" similar to the "Cameron Crazies"
This is the only way Redmen will ever come back.
I have a feeling Johnny Jungle will be protecting the house in the student section ;)
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No offense but St. John's "Red" sounds awful. I'd much rather keep Red Storm, or change to Johnnies than become the Red.
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I used to hate the name Redstorm and really missed Redmen. The problem w Redstorm is it is associated w loosing. Winning will change that perception. Look at the name Crimson Tide, no better than redstorm, but Alabama is great in FB and the name is synonomous w winning. I like Reds better than Red.
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I guess I don't mind Red Storm because I wasn't a fan when they were the Redmen. I don't hate Johnnies, but I would prefer to just stick with Redstorm.
Mostly because I don't want to have to change my username ;)
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Redmen....Red Storm....Johnnies...It doesn't matter. We are St. John's!!!! Most people refer to the college teams by the name of the school, not the nick name. Since there is no way we go back to the Redmen, I'm fine with Red Storm or Johnnies. I wonder were the idea of rebranding is coming from, Lavin or Under Armour?
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"@STJCoachLavin: Great archived #stjbb pic of Coach Carnesecca & the boys celebrate'n a Johnnies W! Luv the red & navy uni's. http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF (http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF)"
Maybe Lavs should've added a ;-) at the end of that.
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Redmen....Red Storm....Johnnies...It doesn't matter. We are St. John's!!!! Most people refer to the college teams by the name of the school, not the nick name. Since there is no way we go back to the Redmen, I'm fine with Red Storm or Johnnies. I wonder were the idea of rebranding is coming from, Lavin or Under Armour?
Lav is very instrumental in the changes. But a lot is coming from university overall
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Jamal is embracing:
"My addiction, best drink EVER! Headed to LA! Hoping for non disturbing seat mates but I always have bad luck when flying! #teamunderamour"
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"@STJCoachLavin: Great archived #stjbb pic of Coach Carnesecca & the boys celebrate'n a Johnnies W! Luv the red & navy uni's. http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF (http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF)"
Maybe Lavs should've added a ;-) at the end of that.
Absolutely awesome that we're getting rid of black and bringing back the navy. Can't say it enough
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"@STJCoachLavin: Great archived #stjbb pic of Coach Carnesecca & the boys celebrate'n a Johnnies W! Luv the red & navy uni's. http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF (http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF)"
Maybe Lavs should've added a ;-) at the end of that.
Absolutely awesome that we're getting rid of black and bringing back the navy. Can't say it enough
+100
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I like the black
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Like the black too.
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I like the black. Navy excellent too though. With our re-branding, even from the logo, it looks like we are going back to the navy as a secondary color.
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I like the gray
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I like the gray
The grey uniform with the red trim and socks looked really good.
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I like the gray
The grey uniform with the red trim and socks looked really good.
It was really nice color scheme
We play like crap in the black
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Under Armour likes to do crazy bold designs. I don't care what colors we wear as long as there is no cammo or ugly looks like the UMD football team sports.
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Under Armour likes to do crazy bold designs. I don't care what colors we wear as long as there is no cammo or ugly looks like the UMD football team sports.
Outside of Maryland where the UA founder is from what other schools have had some crazy uniforms. Especially in basketball, not football?
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Under Armour likes to do crazy bold designs. I don't care what colors we wear as long as there is no cammo or ugly looks like the UMD football team sports.
Outside of Maryland where the UA founder is from what other schools have had some crazy uniforms. Especially in basketball, not football?
Not sure who else they make but usf has some ugly basketball unis
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Under Armour likes to do crazy bold designs. I don't care what colors we wear as long as there is no cammo or ugly looks like the UMD football team sports.
Outside of Maryland where the UA founder is from what other schools have had some crazy uniforms. Especially in basketball, not football?
Not sure who else they make but usf has some ugly basketball unis
True
Shorts were bad
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when can we expect to see new uniform templates and stuff? September?
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what I really hope for with this new UA deal is a ton of fan gear for us to wear. With Nike we were third class citizens, never getting the gear of a Duke, UNC, UK etc...I know we aren't on that level in terms of recent success but I want shirts and shorts and hoodies and all that.
let us represent!!!
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when can we expect to see new uniform templates and stuff? September?
http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/ (http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/)
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Under Armour likes to do crazy bold designs. I don't care what colors we wear as long as there is no cammo or ugly looks like the UMD football team sports.
Outside of Maryland where the UA founder is from what other schools have had some crazy uniforms. Especially in basketball, not football?
Not sure who else they make but usf has some ugly basketball unis
True
Shorts were bad
Although I think lavin is sharp enough not to let them put out something ugly
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Under Armour likes to do crazy bold designs. I don't care what colors we wear as long as there is no cammo or ugly looks like the UMD football team sports.
Outside of Maryland where the UA founder is from what other schools have had some crazy uniforms. Especially in basketball, not football?
Not sure who else they make but usf has some ugly basketball unis
Temple, South Carolina, Auburn, Texas Tech ... I can't think of any others, but they seem to have kept those uniforms pretty normal.
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"@STJCoachLavin: Great archived #stjbb pic of Coach Carnesecca & the boys celebrate'n a Johnnies W! Luv the red & navy uni's. http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF (http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF)"
Maybe Lavs should've added a ;-) at the end of that.
Not only the red & navy's comment, but saying "Johnnies".
I bet Lavin checks this board out after every tweet he makes.
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"@STJCoachLavin: Great archived #stjbb pic of Coach Carnesecca & the boys celebrate'n a Johnnies W! Luv the red & navy uni's. http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF (http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF)"
Maybe Lavs should've added a ;-) at the end of that.
Not only the red & navy's comment, but saying "Johnnies".
I bet Lavin checks this board out after every tweet he makes.
Lavin has always said Johnnies.
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"@STJCoachLavin: Great archived #stjbb pic of Coach Carnesecca & the boys celebrate'n a Johnnies W! Luv the red & navy uni's. http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF (http://t.co/X9XEL6L7wF)"
Maybe Lavs should've added a ;-) at the end of that.
Not only the red & navy's comment, but saying "Johnnies".
I bet Lavin checks this board out after every tweet he makes.
Lavin has always said Johnnies.
Yes he has. And we certainly have always been called the Johnnies... I at least enjoy the fact that the name will be one that has some history behind it, even if it's not the Redmen...
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it's July 1st, Are we supposed to see any new merch./jerseys today?
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it's July 1st, Are we supposed to see any new merch./jerseys today?
Again. Check out the quotes from University spokesman in here.
http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/ (http://www.torchonline.com/news/2013/06/26/university-set-to-launch-new-brand/)
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Here is a link to the athletic department survey where you can voice your opinion on Johnnies/Red Storm, Johnny Thunderbird's fate and the new logo. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WSGR37Q (https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WSGR37Q)
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Here is a link to the athletic department survey where you can voice your opinion on Johnnies/Red Storm, Johnny Thunderbird's fate and the new logo. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WSGR37Q (https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WSGR37Q)
Good to see they read the boards :)
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perhaps another glimpse into the rebranding? too close to syracuse no? (referring to the lineup of schools at the bottom)
http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/31e529c2e33f11e28d8c22000a1f9ad6_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/31e529c2e33f11e28d8c22000a1f9ad6_7.jpg)
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perhaps another glimpse into the rebranding? too close to syracuse no? (referring to the lineup of schools at the bottom)
http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/31e529c2e33f11e28d8c22000a1f9ad6_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/31e529c2e33f11e28d8c22000a1f9ad6_7.jpg)
That's Syracuse's logo, not a rebranded version of ours. We play them at home this year thus why they're on the lineup.
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perhaps another glimpse into the rebranding? too close to syracuse no? (referring to the lineup of schools at the bottom)
http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/31e529c2e33f11e28d8c22000a1f9ad6_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/31e529c2e33f11e28d8c22000a1f9ad6_7.jpg)
No
That's the list of our home opponents. Including Cuse
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It's cool that they're giving away a free throwback jersey as a gift. This will be my first year as a real season ticket holder, do they normally give gifts like that away?
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It's cool that they're giving away a free throwback jersey as a gift. This will be my first year as a real season ticket holder, do they normally give gifts like that away?
They give gifts but never a jersey.
And you have to pick it up at CA in the lobby. God forbid they ship it haha
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It's cool that they're giving away a free throwback jersey as a gift. This will be my first year as a real season ticket holder, do they normally give gifts like that away?
They give gifts but never a jersey.
And you have to pick it up at CA in the lobby. God forbid they ship it haha
Mullin jersey two years ago, no? How much you want to bet it's the same the one? ;D
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It's cool that they're giving away a free throwback jersey as a gift. This will be my first year as a real season ticket holder, do they normally give gifts like that away?
They give gifts but never a jersey.
And you have to pick it up at CA in the lobby. God forbid they ship it haha
Mullin jersey two years ago, no? How much you want to bet it's the same the one? ;D
I don't recall that but also can't say I've ever picked up the gift. I think it's a joke they can mail it.
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It's cool that they're giving away a free throwback jersey as a gift. This will be my first year as a real season ticket holder, do they normally give gifts like that away?
They give gifts but never a jersey.
And you have to pick it up at CA in the lobby. God forbid they ship it haha
Mullin jersey two years ago, no? How much you want to bet it's the same the one? ;D
I don't recall that but also can't say I've ever picked up the gift. I think it's a joke they can mail it.
This goes back to the administration still having a commuter campus mentality.
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Besides having to pick it up it was only available the first HOME game on campus. The opener was usually a real draw. :)
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Besides having to pick it up it was only available the first HOME game on campus. The opener was usually a real draw. :)
It's true. I think they gave it out at the cw post exhibition, or some other seemingly meaningless game that there was no crowd on hand for.
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Besides having to pick it up it was only available the first HOME game on campus. The opener was usually a real draw. :)
I thought they had it for more than 1 game. Regardless its Mickey Mouse of them. Mail with with the tickets or heaven forbid drop another 5 bucks if it has to ship separately.
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Besides having to pick it up it was only available the first HOME game on campus. The opener was usually a real draw. :)
I thought they had it for more than 1 game. Regardless its Mickey Mouse of them. Mail with with the tickets or heaven forbid drop another 5 bucks if it has to ship separately.
I'll take a 60min, season ticket holder only practice in early November where Steve is mic'd up. Follow it with brief meet and greet & light food and bev.
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Besides having to pick it up it was only available the first HOME game on campus. The opener was usually a real draw. :)
I thought they had it for more than 1 game. Regardless its Mickey Mouse of them. Mail with with the tickets or heaven forbid drop another 5 bucks if it has to ship separately.
I'll take a 60min, season ticket holder only practice in early November where Steve is mic'd up. Follow it with brief meet and greet & light food and bev.
Agreed. I think few years ago they gave out paperweights. Ohhhhhhhhhh baby lol
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Besides having to pick it up it was only available the first HOME game on campus. The opener was usually a real draw. :)
I thought they had it for more than 1 game. Regardless its Mickey Mouse of them. Mail with with the tickets or heaven forbid drop another 5 bucks if it has to ship separately.
I'll take a 60min, season ticket holder only practice in early November where Steve is mic'd up. Follow it with brief meet and greet & light food and bev.
That's a really good idea. Hopefully someone in the athletic dept reads the board. I wouldn't be surprised if they do
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“@StJohnsBBall: St. John’s Athletics currently finalizing the terms of a partnership with Under Armour. More details will be provided shortly. #SJUBB #STJBB”
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
Don't expect anything wild and crazy. Expect what you have seen already.
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
Don't expect anything wild and crazy. Expect what you have seen already.
They said blue will be in the jerseys for the trip, so it has to be something we have yet to see.
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
Don't expect anything wild and crazy. Expect what you have seen already.
They said blue will be in the jerseys for the trip, so it has to be something we have yet to see.
Where?
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
Don't expect anything wild and crazy. Expect what you have seen already.
They said blue will be in the jerseys for the trip, so it has to be something we have yet to see.
Where?
Saw it somewhere from twitter. Not sure if someone posted it here, ill see if I can find it.
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
Don't expect anything wild and crazy. Expect what you have seen already.
They said blue will be in the jerseys for the trip, so it has to be something we have yet to see.
Where?
Saw it somewhere from twitter. Not sure if someone posted it here, ill see if I can find it.
“@Kieran_Lynch: Unis for Europe will feature red, white and blue color scheme. #sjubb”
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
Don't expect anything wild and crazy. Expect what you have seen already.
They said blue will be in the jerseys for the trip, so it has to be something we have yet to see.
Where?
Saw it somewhere from twitter. Not sure if someone posted it here, ill see if I can find it.
I just wish they would do it right. If we wear some uni with some blue in it, fans will want them and there is no way they will sell them come start of school year. If they do it would be hands down the biggest shock in the world from STJ. They are not prepared or organized like that. The whole launch is just so jagged, its not even funny.
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
Don't expect anything wild and crazy. Expect what you have seen already.
They said blue will be in the jerseys for the trip, so it has to be something we have yet to see.
Where?
Saw it somewhere from twitter. Not sure if someone posted it here, ill see if I can find it.
I just wish they would do it right. If we wear some uni with some blue in it, fans will want them and there is no way they will sell them come start of school year. If they do it would be hands down the biggest shock in the world from STJ. They are not prepared or organized like that. The whole launch is just so jagged, its not even funny.
That's disappointing news moose
BTW here's that tweet
“@Kieran_Lynch: Unis for Europe will feature red, white and blue color scheme. #sjubb”
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Any pic's of the uniforms the team will be wearing on their tour?
Don't expect anything wild and crazy. Expect what you have seen already.
They said blue will be in the jerseys for the trip, so it has to be something we have yet to see.
Where?
Saw it somewhere from twitter. Not sure if someone posted it here, ill see if I can find it.
I just wish they would do it right. If we wear some uni with some blue in it, fans will want them and there is no way they will sell them come start of school year. If they do it would be hands down the biggest shock in the world from STJ. They are not prepared or organized like that. The whole launch is just so jagged, its not even funny.
That's disappointing news moose
BTW here's that tweet
“@Kieran_Lynch: Unis for Europe will feature red, white and blue color scheme. #sjubb”
Thanks for the tweet. Guessing subtle piping and/or lettering will be blue.
Case in point did they ever sell black uni's? Don't think they did outside of the firesale equipment sale this spring. Did they ever sell the gray? Nope.
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I think the blues for the trip will be special edition, made only for the trip. This is from the St John's athletic website.
"The St. John's men's basketball team will be wearing non-traditional, bold Under Armour uniforms specifically designed for their European Tour in patriotic red, white and blue."
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I'm pretty sure there is a royal blue uniform for this trip. I can't remember exactly which uniform was for where and I saw them so long ago. However the uniforms that are being worn in Europe are custom made just for Europe.
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here's the blue:
http://t.co/D4z4C4NTWv (http://t.co/D4z4C4NTWv)
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Ugh
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Ugh
i'm just happy that we'll now have more options.
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Ugh
i'm just happy that we'll now have more options.
Options? Are you a Yankee fan that used to buy the Yellow, Green and Red Yankees hats? :)
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Ugh
i'm just happy that we'll now have more options.
Options? Are you a Yankee fan that used to buy the Yellow, Green and Red Yankees hats? :)
I like the navy a lot.
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Ugh
i'm just happy that we'll now have more options.
Options? Are you a Yankee fan that used to buy the Yellow, Green and Red Yankees hats? :)
I like the navy a lot.
That one can be stomached. But as for the lighter blue? What the hell is that? It looks like a DePaul hat. Plus 7 teams in the new BE are blue focused it seems.
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A very wise man said the blue on the left is hideous. I agree with him.
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A very wise man said the blue on the left is hideous. I agree with him.
:)
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Kids have to have hats to match different outfits. Either give them more choices or watch them wear Seton Hall hats on campus.
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here's the blue:
http://t.co/D4z4C4NTWv (http://t.co/D4z4C4NTWv)
I thought we were going back to SJU.....or is that not until 2014? or are we marketing both STJ and SJU?
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Kids have to have hats to match different outfits. Either give them more choices or watch them wear Seton Hall hats on campus.
This. I know kids who don't even like the team of the hat they are wearing, they just like the way it looks.
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Unis for Europe? I was able to take a snap shot before Jordan took it down.
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Unis for Europe? I was able to take a snap shot before Jordan took it down.
Nice catch! That would be my guess.
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Unis for Europe? I was able to take a snap shot before Jordan took it down.
i like it!
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Hey look. Rysheed transferred to DePaul
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I like the blue jersey more than our old black ones.
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I like the blue jersey more than our old black ones.
Me too
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Hey look. Rysheed transferred to DePaul
You hate blue jerseys almost as much as Joe hates Creighton. Almost.
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Hey look. Rysheed transferred to DePaul
You hate blue jerseys almost as much as Joe hates Creighton. Almost.
I do hate these particular jerseys. Do I mind blue accents? No way. But a whole blue jersey? At what point is St. John's Redmen/RedStorm wearing BLUE uniforms?
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Hey look. Rysheed transferred to DePaul
You hate blue jerseys almost as much as Joe hates Creighton. Almost.
I do hate these particular jerseys. Do I mind blue accents? No way. But a whole blue jersey? At what point is St. John's Redmen/RedStorm wearing BLUE uniforms?
Did you have a problem with them wearing an all black or all grey jerseys?
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Hey look. Rysheed transferred to DePaul
You hate blue jerseys almost as much as Joe hates Creighton. Almost.
I do hate these particular jerseys. Do I mind blue accents? No way. But a whole blue jersey? At what point is St. John's Redmen/RedStorm wearing BLUE uniforms?
Did you have a problem with them wearing an all black or all grey jerseys?
No. I was all for both of the black and gray jerseys. Black and gray are usually the type of alternate jersey teams gravitate towards. These things just look identical to DePaul for me.
I hope they prove me wrong and make these for sale so all you guys can buy them and inject more money into the program :) We know they didn't run out and make black and gray jerseys before.
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Hey look. Rysheed transferred to DePaul
You hate blue jerseys almost as much as Joe hates Creighton. Almost.
I do hate these particular jerseys. Do I mind blue accents? No way. But a whole blue jersey? At what point is St. John's Redmen/RedStorm wearing BLUE uniforms?
Did you have a problem with them wearing an all black or all grey jerseys?
No. I was all for both of the black and gray jerseys. Black and gray are usually the type of alternate jersey teams gravitate towards. These things just look identical to DePaul for me.
I hope they prove me wrong and make these for sale so all you guys can buy them and inject more money into the program :) We know they didn't run out and make black and gray jerseys before.
I hope so too
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I prefer the black unis. Looked mean and better accent color
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I prefer the black unis. Looked mean and better accent color
And more people would have been fine with them but they remember out W/L record in them.
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Unis for Europe? I was able to take a snap shot before Jordan took it down.
i like it!
I think it looks pretty cool, but I really loved those gray unis last season.
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I loved the grays. The blue I could do without. I just don't get so bent out of shape over evey little change. Go Red Storm!
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I loved the grays. The blue I could do without. I just don't get so bent out of shape over evey little change. Go Red Storm!
I don't get bent out of shape either.
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I loved the grays. The blue I could do without. I just don't get so bent out of shape over evey little change. Go Red Storm!
I don't get bent out of shape either.
Sure you do Moose... ;-)
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Blue uniforms... Is this part of the black and blue series?
If they just use these uniforms like Yankees use spring training uniforms, that is ok...
I just hope for the season they stick with the red uniform. Lets get back to the basics of winning and bringing back our winning traditions before we start getting creative with uniforms.
Examples mets and Yankees.
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Like those Uniforms
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Nice looking.
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I want red uniforms with white letters and numbers, or vice versa. That's all folks! :tickedoff:
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At what point is St. John's Redmen/RedStorm wearing BLUE uniforms?
I agree with the question. Our colors are red (and white). No more.
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Now these look good.
http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=145506 (http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=145506)
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Now these look good.
http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=145506 (http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=145506)
I like those!
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I didn't think I would like the blue but that looks good. I'm easy.
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Now these look good.
http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=145506 (http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=145506)
I think they look great...
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those are awesome
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Undecided if I'm pro or con, but I appreciate the effort. Looking forward to seeing what else UA might try.
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Now these look good.
http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=145506 (http://www.redstormsports.com/view.gal?id=145506)
Much better
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http://instagram.com/p/dSPk5An9S3/ (http://instagram.com/p/dSPk5An9S3/)
They didn't show the shorts in the original pictures. Burn them. Looks like a bad bathing suit.
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http://instagram.com/p/dSPk5An9S3/ (http://instagram.com/p/dSPk5An9S3/)
They didn't show the shorts in the original pictures. Burn them. Looks like a bad bathing suit.
Yea those aren't to good looking. Loved the tops. Just go with all ride with blue piping on the side.
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Looks like a bad bathing suit.
Definitely an Old Navy clearance bin vibe to them.
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I thought theywere going to get rid of the "TJ" combination with the new look?
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I thought theywere going to get rid of the "TJ" combination with the new look?
Down the road
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I agree, those shorts are hideous!
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Those shorts are awesome. I'd rock em.
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Definitely an Old Navy clearance bin vibe to them.
Nail on the head.
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They're similar to USF's shorts from last year (http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/south-florida.jpg?w=367&h=512)
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I would love to see the wardrobe you stylish men sport as now half of you are fashion/design experts and know what is in and out!
Also, the new issues of GQ, Esquire and Details are out on the newsstands now.
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I would love to see the wardrobe you stylish men sport as now half of you are fashion/design experts and know what is in and out!
Also, the new issues of GQ, Esquire and Details are out on the newsstands now.
If half of the board are fashion experts than 100% of the board are retired basketball coaches I guess.
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They're similar to USF's shorts from last year (http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/south-florida.jpg?w=367&h=512)
Looks like sputum (whatever that is).
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They're similar to USF's shorts from last year (http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/south-florida.jpg?w=367&h=512)
When we signed with UA I pointed out how ugly the USF uniforms. The colors aren't as bad as USF, but still not a fan.
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you don't need to be a fashion expert to understand how ridiculous those shorts are. get ready to be the guinea pig for more of their crazy ideas. in all honesty though who cares if they wear bikinis and burkas out there as long as they play better than last year
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with Under Armour/possible new nickname and he probably just bought it on eBay but Jakarr is wearing an SJU Redmen hat in this pic. Pretty cool.
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/stjo/sports/m-baskbl/auto_player/9166325.jpeg)
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I wonder if this is what the logo on the new throwback jerseys will look like.
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/971239_10151825744531505_2107617018_n.jpg)
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I wonder if this is what the logo on the new throwback jerseys will look like.
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/971239_10151825744531505_2107617018_n.jpg)
I'd like that as our everyday font.
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I periodically check the UA happenings with the unis, and at page #24 is the proof of what i've talked with Moose about in the past regarding the Terps too. As long as they're not hideous, and even if they temporarily are, the new UA relationship with special gear has us talking about SJU unis more than in the past since the name change.
Overall, it is win-win. I just have reservations that the athletic department will devise its marketing to fully take advantage of this excellent opportunity. It was even difficult at Maryland for a while, but it's rolling better since the Miami football game a few years ago. Sales are solid (direct from my licensing friend). I expect sales to be very good if the campaign at SJU gets more aggressive getting the word out to the entire Metropolitan region - especially with the team about to have a solid season.
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this isn't us, but interesting on what "Johnnies" could look like:
http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/957c7de214fd11e39dbe22000a1fb6d1_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/957c7de214fd11e39dbe22000a1fb6d1_7.jpg)
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Saw these tweets from the Basketball Diary:
@TheBBallDiary: Inevitable Under Armour will lace St John's University up with their Spawn Anatomix in new colorways.
@TheBBallDiary: The new color blue, navy blue in addition to tradition red & white for St John's University & Under Armour is a good look. New sales stream.
@TheBBallDiary: @Sports_talk91 Europe tour outfit - temporary. New tweaks coming. Shorts will have NYC skylines. Assuming around October.
Like the skyline idea just hope they don't try to do too much.
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Skyline will be debuted for conference play.
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Saw these tweets from the Basketball Diary:
@TheBBallDiary: Inevitable Under Armour will lace St John's University up with their Spawn Anatomix in new colorways.
@TheBBallDiary: The new color blue, navy blue in addition to tradition red & white for St John's University & Under Armour is a good look. New sales stream.
@TheBBallDiary: @Sports_talk91 Europe tour outfit - temporary. New tweaks coming. Shorts will have NYC skylines. Assuming around October.
Like the skyline idea just hope they don't try to do too much.
Sounds good. I like them reintroducing the skyline. Hopefully it's well executed...
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Skyline will be debuted for conference play.
By design or because they won't be ready Dave?
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I wonder if this is what the logo on the new throwback jerseys will look like.
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/971239_10151825744531505_2107617018_n.jpg)
I'd like that as our everyday font.
Red, white, and blue colors , with the NYC skyline....'Merica!
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I have always loved this uniform. Hopefully the new ones are along the same lines.
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shorts
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shorts
I think the skyline on the warm ups and shorts are cool, with just St. John's on the front of the jersey would be cool.
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Skyline will be debuted for conference play.
Seems like they bumped up their line to basically the start of the season when many projected it would be after this season. It makes sense considering our team, new Tv contract, televised games etc. it makes sense for Under Armour to showcase their investment this season and not down the line.
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shorts
I think the skyline on the warm ups and shorts are cool, with just St. John's on the front of the jersey would be cool.
Yep. Very cool
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Looks like we're getting a skyline uniform for non-conference games. Did u know something Redman#13?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUYJsFNIcAAP5fx.jpg:large)
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Looks like we're getting a skyline uniform for non-conference games. Did u know something Redman#13?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUYJsFNIcAAP5fx.jpg:large)
I saw someone mention a skyline, which is why i posted the pics. The uniform looks great if you ask me. I love the tie in ti the city
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUYJ_rvIgAASKKN.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUYKx54IIAEPzsI.jpg:large)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUYLljoIMAAJavN.jpg:large)
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Like the city ones but love the other ones as well. Great job by UA.
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Love the old school font.
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Booooom! Love Em :up:
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great job, brings it past and future together.
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Love old school touch, UA gets it!
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Love 'em. Great job by UA and the school.
Upon second look, I have one minor complaint: mixing the old school unis with the new "StJ." logo on the shorts. They don't belong together.
That said, we'll look better on the floor this year than we have in 30 years.
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Man, I need all the shorts badly. These are great, definitely underestimated UA.
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Love 'em. Great job by UA and the school.
Upon second look, I have one minor complaint: mixing the old school unis with the new "StJ." logo on the shorts. They don't belong together.
That said, we'll look better on the floor this year than we have in 30 years.
good catch. didn't notice that.
they did say these are blueprints, so maybe there's still a chance they change.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUYJ_rvIgAASKKN.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUYKx54IIAEPzsI.jpg:large)
The Big East Road Reds are amazing.
I need to see the skyline reds and whites in person, but they are potentially amazing as well.
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I can't even begin to explain how exciting all of this uniform talk is.
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What is that on the uni's in the bottom left corner?
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I can't even begin to explain how exciting all of this uniform talk is.
Tell us how you really feel :)
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What is that on the uni's in the bottom left corner?
UA jock tag with size.
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I meant the other side, the right then lol.
It says Beast of East or something?
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They look great :up:
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Uniforms looks great. The classic look for conference games will be great.
Also I noticed the slogan in the screenshot, have we been calling ourselves New York's team, or is that new?
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I would prefer johnnies to red storm
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Uniforms looks great. The classic look for conference games will be great.
Also I noticed the slogan in the screenshot, have we been calling ourselves New York's team, or is that new?
We have. Every chance we get. To counter Cuse and their claim.
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They all look great IMO. One thing that ill say is that I like the written out St. John's SOO much better than the combined STJ look.
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Uniforms looks great. The classic look for conference games will be great.
Also I noticed the slogan in the screenshot, have we been calling ourselves New York's team, or is that new?
We have. Every chance we get. To counter Cuse and their claim.
Good stuff, I guess I just didn't notice it before.
The uniforms and the news we're making a move at Whitehead have got me excited for the season to start. It seemed so far off, but it's actually just a few weeks away.
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“@StJohnsBBall: Right now very small selection of #SJUBB gear at http://UA.com (http://UA.com) w/ more in Oct. The @StJohnsU Bookstore will sell both jerseys!”
“@StJohnsBBall: Seeing questions from #SJUBB fans about black unis. No blacks, but that doesn't mean there won't be some surprises. Stay tuned all season!”
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I think they look fantastic. Great representation of both modern and classic touches. Love the skyline which isnt overdone. Colors and lines look clean and I like the navy blue in it a lot. On twitter, somebody mentioned that inside the numbers is the depiction of a street map, but I can't tell from the renderings. U/A hit it out of the park with these.
They'll look even better with a Cuse player getting yammed by the skyline...
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I think they look fantastic. Great representation of both modern and classic touches. Love the skyline which isnt overdone. Colors and lines look clean and I like the navy blue in it a lot. On twitter, somebody mentioned that inside the numbers is the depiction of a street map, but I can't tell from the renderings. U/A hit it out of the park with these.
They'll look even better with a Cuse player getting yammed by the skyline...
+1
Love, love, love.
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I can't even begin to explain how exciting all of this uniform talk is.
Bet you can't wait for the matching handbags and high heeled shoes!
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Leadership and success personified;
“@MikeMMcBride: Under Armour Billionaire Kevin Plank Has Had A Very Good Year http://onforb.es/16BtAQl (http://onforb.es/16BtAQl) via @forbes”
Under Armour founder and CEO, Kevin Plank, likes to think of himself as the underdog, the man who is taking on the sports apparel industry’s big boy (Nike) with a company that he started from scratch in the basement of his grandmother’s apartment in Washington, DC.
The Youngest Billionaires On The Forbes 400:
It so happens that the underdog has had a great year. The 41-year-old Plank is once again a member of the Forbes 400, a list that he keeps climbing (he is number 327 this year, up from 345 in 2012). His net worth has increased by 26%, to an estimated $1.7 billion, based mainly on the booming stock of his company, which was founded on the strength of Plank’s sweat-wicking, form-fitting shirts, but has since branched out into cotton, shoes and exercise devices.
The highlights from Plank’s year include:
–A stock price that has risen 35%. (Plank donates 10% of his own stock sales to his Cupid Foundation)
–Thirteen straight quarters of at least 20% revenue growth.
–An expected year-end revenue number of $2.25 billion.
–A bold stated goal of doubling UA’s revenues by 2016.
–A stick-in-the-eye lawsuit filed against Nike for trademark infringement.
–A partnership with the NFL in its Head Health Initiative, which comes with a bunch of good public relations.
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Both sets of uniforms are really cool and way better than I expected. But with us changing our logo next year does this mean we will have new ones again next season?
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I think they look fantastic. Great representation of both modern and classic touches. Love the skyline which isnt overdone. Colors and lines look clean and I like the navy blue in it a lot. On twitter, somebody mentioned that inside the numbers is the depiction of a street map, but I can't tell from the renderings. U/A hit it out of the park with these.
They'll look even better with a Cuse player getting yammed by the skyline...
+1
Love, love, love.
I am really impressed with both. I honestly didn't think the could pull of the skyline on the Jerseys. I would just get rid of the STJ and go with the classic St. John's. I really like the St. John's logo.
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I like those alot.
I'm thinking Whitehead will commit just because of those jerseys.
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Love. Love. Love. Love. Love.
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:D CBS Sportsline has a story on the new uniforms. :up: :D ;D
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball)
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“@BrandonTierney: Great synergy between the marketing, branding efforts and the infusion of NBA-caliber talent at St. John's. The program feels bigger #SJUBB”
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these practice unis are hot:
http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/505fe5ee20b711e3a59b22000a9f3c66_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/505fe5ee20b711e3a59b22000a9f3c66_7.jpg)
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Golden State Warriors star guard Stephen Curry has left Nike to become the centerpiece endorser for Under Armour, sources told Yahoo Sports.
Curry, 25, has developed into one of the NBA's best players, its most devastating outside shooter and one of its most coveted endorsers.
The partnership is expected to be formally announced next week, sources said.
Under Armour has had deals with several solid NBA players, including Brandon Jennings and DeAndre Jordan, but Curry – one of the league's most popular players with young fans – clearly elevates the company's brand.
In his third NBA season, Curry averaged nearly 23 points and seven assists, and led the Warriors to the Western Conference semifinals. He set an NBA single-season record with 272 3-pointers a season ago.
“@WojYahooNBA: Y! Sources: Golden State star Stephen Curry leaves Nike for Under Armour endorsement deal. http://yhoo.it/18vGuOo (http://yhoo.it/18vGuOo)”
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“@MikeMMcBride: Visiting the @uabrandhouse with @EddieKull. UA is ready to #WinNYC & St John's will play a big role. http://twitter.com/MikeMMcBride/status/390594350800834560/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/MikeMMcBride/status/390594350800834560/photo/1)”
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Between Fox & UA we are in great position to thrive along with two driven companies IMO;
http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2013/10/17/under-armours-aggressive-plan-to-expand-overseas/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2013/10/17/under-armours-aggressive-plan-to-expand-overseas/)
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Between Fox & UA we are in great position to thrive along with two driven companies IMO;
http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2013/10/17/under-armours-aggressive-plan-to-expand-overseas/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2013/10/17/under-armours-aggressive-plan-to-expand-overseas/)
I agree. I was at first concerned with the notion of forming a basketball only conference, but once we secured the backing of Fox for the new league and UA for us, it has put us and the league in a even stronger position IMO.
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Has there been anything new on the uniforms. The article said early October more announcements will be made but I have not seen anything. I also looked on the UA website and have not seen the new uniforms posted.
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Last night's jersey's looked great. The throwbacks looked especially clean, however, when looking at the away modern jerseys they didn't have the skyline displayed across the chest. The shorts did look like the mock drawings released in September w the skyline, does anyone have insight here?
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Last night's jersey's looked great. The throwbacks looked especially clean, however, when looking at the away modern jerseys they didn't have the skyline displayed across the chest. The shorts did look like the mock drawings released in September w the skyline, does anyone have insight here?
I a[so liked the long sleve shirts which had NYC and 718
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I was in the second row last night and noticed there was no skyline across the chest also. Uniforms still looked GREAT & would absolutely love to have the warm ups wore last night, or even the blue t's the managers were wearing. I also noticed that there IS a map of the city inside the numbers on the modern unis, pretty sick detail!
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“@StJohnsBBall: New @underarmour pregame gear says it all. #WeAreNewYorksTeam #WeAreStJohns #NYC #SJUBB @FOXsports1 @uabasketball http://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/394538847804989440/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/394538847804989440/photo/1)”
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“@StJohnsBBall: New @underarmour pregame gear says it all. #WeAreNewYorksTeam #WeAreStJohns #NYC #SJUBB @FOXsports1 @uabasketball http://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/394538847804989440/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/394538847804989440/photo/1)”
I can see that selling very well. If I can buy one will be sending one to my out of town family members.
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is any of the new gear for sale yet?
would love to stock up before the season.
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“@StJohnsBBall: New @underarmour pregame gear says it all. #WeAreNewYorksTeam #WeAreStJohns #NYC #SJUBB @FOXsports1 @uabasketball http://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/394538847804989440/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/394538847804989440/photo/1)”
I can see that selling very well. If I can buy one will be sending one to my out of town family members.
Definitely caught my eye. Went straight to the online store to look for it, but nothing yet.
Hey Gman, if they get it in stock, you can send one my way too...
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“@StJohnsBBall: Info on delivery of #SJUBB @UnderArmour replica jerseys and how to get #NYC shooting shirts and other team gear will be provided soon!”
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http://www.csnchicago.com/notre-dame/notre-dame-could-swap-adidas-nike-under-armour (http://www.csnchicago.com/notre-dame/notre-dame-could-swap-adidas-nike-under-armour)
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I still wonder why we haven't seen the skyline jerseys yet. They were supposed to be for our "non-conference" games.
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“@StJohnsBBall: Info on delivery of #SJUBB @UnderArmour replica jerseys and how to get #NYC shooting shirts and other team gear will be provided soon!”
Still waiting on this
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“@StJohnsBBall: Info on delivery of #SJUBB @UnderArmour replica jerseys and how to get #NYC shooting shirts and other team gear will be provided soon!”
Still waiting on this
I was in Baltimore on UA campus last week and relayed the strong desire for more St. John's gear. We'll see.
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So, just out of curiosity, are there any grown men here that would wear a basketball jersey outside? Like in public?
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So, just out of curiosity, are there any grown men here that would wear a basketball jersey outside? Like in public?
lol. I just want the warm up shirts
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So, just out of curiosity, are there any grown men here that would wear a basketball jersey outside? Like in public?
lol. I just want the warm up shirts
Me too! I'll see what I can find out.
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I still wonder why we haven't seen the skyline jerseys yet. They were supposed to be for our "non-conference" games.
I still wonder why we haven't seen the skyline jerseys yet. They were supposed to be for our "non-conference" games.
The ladies were wearing a version for their game against A&M at MSG Sunday. Their version had the skyline at the top of the back of the shirts. Hard to realize what it was if you didn't look closely and know that we were going with that design.
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So, just out of curiosity, are there any grown men here that would wear a basketball jersey outside? Like in public?
I wear the shorts around the house on Saturday and Sundays, and to work out.
27 years old.
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@MikeMMcBride: "Not surprisingly, Under Armour is outgrowing all its…peers in terms of…both revenue and earnings-per-share growth." http://t.co/IQyh5SWjcP (http://t.co/IQyh5SWjcP)
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Has anyone else been disappointed by the Under Armour merchandise available for fans? Where is it? I was in the bookstore earlier this season and they had a couple of items but nowhere near what I expected. Seems like no improvement from Nike. I love the uniforms and the gear the players wear but the fans are being left out once again.
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Notre Dame signs with UA
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Wow. That is big time.
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Notre Dame signs with UA
Knock us down one rung in terms of attention paid to us?
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Notre Dame signs with UA
Knock us down one rung in terms of attention paid to us?
Eh, ND basketball is better than us but not great. Obviously ND football and then Auburn football are going to get the motherload of attention, but that could be good because as one of few UA schools (and even fewer with a great basketball history/tradition...even if its ancient), could increase the attention/interest in UA.
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The bigger UA gets, the better for us.
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Nike does not take UA serious yet. UA's goal the next ten years is to own the North America market especially among youth sports.
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Haven't heard of a grey and red UA uniform. Coach Keady rocking it in the twitter pic. Hope to see it on the floor soon.
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UA is like vitamin water. They will take notice eventually and buy them :)
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Haven't heard of a grey and red UA uniform. Coach Keady rocking it in the twitter pic. Hope to see it on the floor soon.
Gene Keady is wearing a basketballl uniform in a twitter picture? God help us.
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Haven't heard of a grey and red UA uniform. Coach Keady rocking it in the twitter pic. Hope to see it on the floor soon.
Gene Keady is wearing a basketballl uniform in a twitter picture? God help us.
hahaha.....no not a basketball uniform just the colors, looks like a warm up jacket.
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Nike does not take UA serious yet. UA's goal the next ten years is to own the North America market especially among youth sports.
What are you talking about? Of course Nike takes Under Armour seriously. I don't know what their market share is...but they're not the little shop on the corner.
They're outfitting the US Olympic team and Notre Dame... UA isn't the little company that could anymore. They're one of the big dogs
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Nike does not take UA serious yet. UA's goal the next ten years is to own the North America market especially among youth sports.
What are you talking about? Of course Nike takes Under Armour seriously. I don't know what their market share is...but they're not the little shop on the corner.
They're outfitting the US Olympic team and Notre Dame... UA isn't the little company that could anymore. They're one of the big dogs
Small correction on US Olympic team. Parts of the team yes. Each sport has their own supplier
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Nike does not take UA serious yet. UA's goal the next ten years is to own the North America market especially among youth sports.
What are you talking about? Of course Nike takes Under Armour seriously. I don't know what their market share is...but they're not the little shop on the corner.
They're outfitting the US Olympic team and Notre Dame... UA isn't the little company that could anymore. They're one of the big dogs
Small correction on US Olympic team. Parts of the team yes. Each sport has their own supplier
Fair enough. And I didn't mean to sound like a Jerk Newyorker
I just think it's somewhat obvious that UA stopped being small time awhile ago.
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Nike does not take UA serious yet. UA's goal the next ten years is to own the North America market especially among youth sports.
What are you talking about? Of course Nike takes Under Armour seriously. I don't know what their market share is...but they're not the little shop on the corner.
They're outfitting the US Olympic team and Notre Dame... UA isn't the little company that could anymore. They're one of the big dogs
Small correction on US Olympic team. Parts of the team yes. Each sport has their own supplier
Fair enough. And I didn't mean to sound like a Jerk Newyorker
I just think it's somewhat obvious that UA stopped being small time awhile ago.
They definitely have. They key for UA is to first overtake those under Nike, aka Adidas/Reebok. International holds that key IMO.
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In the world of college hoops uniforms. Nice work from Adidas for Kansas IMO
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2014/jan/15/self-kus-alternate-uniforms-will-stick-around/ (http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2014/jan/15/self-kus-alternate-uniforms-will-stick-around/)
The alternate adidas jerseys that the Univ. of Kansas men's basketball team has worn the last two games are likely "turning into permanent jerseys" for the remainder of this season, according to Gary Bedore of the LAWRENCE JOURNAL-WORLD. KU coach Bill Self during his weekly radio show last night said the players "prefer those to what we have been wearing." Self: "Not that what we’ve been wearing (during nonconference season) has been bad, we just prefer these to be better. If the color schemes allow us to wear them like they did last night, I’d anticipate you seeing those uniforms moving forward the rest of the year." Bedore notes KU wore gray uniforms for Monday's game at Iowa State "after wearing cream colored jerseys with the script word, ‘Jayhawks’ on the front" in Saturday’s home game against Kansas State. Self called the grey jerseys "gorgeous.” He noted that he is "generally in favor of a no-frills look at KU." Self: "Going forward, our uniforms are going to be solely traditional and we’re not going to have any of this stuff other schools are going to.” Bedore notes Self's comments were "ostensibly referring to some of the camo/neon uniforms teams like KU sampled last season." Self said, "I’m not into marketing and understanding all the ins and outs of that. ... There will be some things going on we agreed to do with adidas periodically because that’s part of the contract. We’re happy to do so, but the core of who we are needs to stand strictly from a tradition standpoint"
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Nike does not take UA serious yet. UA's goal the next ten years is to own the North America market especially among youth sports.
It is all good. Nike see's UA as potential threat but, way down the line. I like how Plank has built the company, definitely not some mom and pop organization. If I were UA I would buy Puma who is known internationally.
What are you talking about? Of course Nike takes Under Armour seriously. I don't know what their market share is...but they're not the little shop on the corner.
They're outfitting the US Olympic team and Notre Dame... UA isn't the little company that could anymore. They're one of the big dogs
Small correction on US Olympic team. Parts of the team yes. Each sport has their own supplier
Fair enough. And I didn't mean to sound like a Jerk Newyorker
I just think it's somewhat obvious that UA stopped being small time awhile ago.
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it's all good, I think Nike see's UA as a threat but, a long ways away. Plank has built a great foundation. They should buy Puma to compete in international markets.
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@UnderArmour: We're proud to have the opportunity to outfit & innovate for the outstanding men & women of @NavyAthletics! #TeamUA #IWILL
The rumor is Dave enlisted to get this done.
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They just showed a pretty neat new uni for Maryland.
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@UnderArmour: We're proud to have the opportunity to outfit & innovate for the outstanding men & women of @NavyAthletics! #TeamUA #IWILL
The rumor is Dave enlisted to get this done.
Not done yet. There are more!
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Next big venture should be trying to aquire major sports uniforms.
Nike has the NFL
Adidas has the NBA & MLS
Reebok has NHL
Majestic has MLB
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Next big venture should be trying to aquire major sports uniforms.
Nike has the NFL
Adidas has the NBA & MLS
Reebok has NHL
Majestic has MLB
They are the official footwear supplier for the NFL FWIW but of course uniforms are more prominant
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Notre Dame deal announced with 10 year term.
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Great job, Dave & UA, in getting ND. ND brand reaches out across the US to Europe et al as well and I know UA will be a partner in furthering that reach. Largest shoes/apparel contract in history. Great move.
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Great job, Dave & UA, in getting ND. ND brand reaches out across the US to Europe et al as well and I know UA will be a partner in furthering that reach. Largest shoes/apparel contract in history. Great move.
I didn't know Dave helped get ND. It is another great piece to the puzzle.
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To be clear, I don't know if Dave did, but am congratulating him for his company's success
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Nike does not take UA serious yet. UA's goal the next ten years is to own the North America market especially among youth sports.
Very false.
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@UnderArmour: We're proud to have the opportunity to outfit & innovate for the outstanding men & women of @NavyAthletics! #TeamUA #IWILL
The rumor is Dave enlisted to get this done.
Ha! I get about .000001% credit for this deal getting done. I put together the keynote presentation for basketball's pitch to ND but lets be real...football made this decision.
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@jeffborzello: Under Armour's big summer event ("The Finals") will take place the same weekend as Peach Jam -- in Atlanta. I like it.
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@DanWolken 1h
Auburn senior RT @AllenPayne2_: I can say this now... We'll struggle as long as we are under Under Armour.''
I feel like UA has been nothing but good to the Johnnies. But maybe they don't give the same attention to Auburn bball.
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@DanWolken 1h
Auburn senior RT @AllenPayne2_: I can say this now... We'll struggle as long as we are under Under Armour.''
I feel like UA has been nothing but good to the Johnnies. But maybe they don't give the same attention to Auburn bball.
He's referring to UA not being Nike and being unable to recruit.
Sure hasn't effected Auburn football.
The coach and players suck. Someone should tell Mr. Payne that.
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Auburn F Allen Payne on Thursday wrote on his Twitter account the men's basketball team "will struggle as long as we are under Under Armour," according to Colin McGowan of SPORTS ON EARTH. McGowan writes, "I’m pretty sure he means Auburn’s association with Under Armour sinks it by making it nigh impossible to recruit top high school talent." The "line of thinking" is that because Nike and adidas "sponsor a slew of the most prominent basketball camps, tournaments and AAU teams, they have a hand in steering the best young players toward programs ... with which their companies are affiliated." UA is "a second-tier basketball brand." It is "not that UA doesn’t sponsor the same sorts of things the bigger companies do, but it doesn’t have the foothold in the marketplace that Nike or Adidas has." UA "probably came to Auburn with an interest in being the chosen brand of Auburn Football, and because these types of deals are athletic department-wide, it also outfits the basketball team." This has had the "unintended consequence of dooming the basketball program, which wasn’t particularly good in the first place" (SPORTSONEARTH.com, 3/14). Basketball HOFer Charles Barkley said that he wanted Auburn "to change its apparel affiliation for basketball" from UA to Nike. Former Auburn coach Tony Barbee, prior to being fired by the school on Wednesday, said, "The only problem I have with the Auburn program right now is we're not a Nike school. I've had some conversations with [AD Jay Jacobs], I think we need to separate from the football program and go with Nike. ... I would love to see Auburn switch to Nike on the basketball side of it." In Alabama, James Crepea notes the shoe and apparel deal has been "a major bone of contention for many within the basketball program privately" (MONTGOMERY ADVERTISER, 3/14).
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Auburn F Allen Payne on Thursday wrote on his Twitter account the men's basketball team "will struggle as long as we are under Under Armour," according to Colin McGowan of SPORTS ON EARTH. McGowan writes, "I’m pretty sure he means Auburn’s association with Under Armour sinks it by making it nigh impossible to recruit top high school talent." The "line of thinking" is that because Nike and adidas "sponsor a slew of the most prominent basketball camps, tournaments and AAU teams, they have a hand in steering the best young players toward programs ... with which their companies are affiliated." UA is "a second-tier basketball brand." It is "not that UA doesn’t sponsor the same sorts of things the bigger companies do, but it doesn’t have the foothold in the marketplace that Nike or Adidas has." UA "probably came to Auburn with an interest in being the chosen brand of Auburn Football, and because these types of deals are athletic department-wide, it also outfits the basketball team." This has had the "unintended consequence of dooming the basketball program, which wasn’t particularly good in the first place" (SPORTSONEARTH.com, 3/14). Basketball HOFer Charles Barkley said that he wanted Auburn "to change its apparel affiliation for basketball" from UA to Nike. Former Auburn coach Tony Barbee, prior to being fired by the school on Wednesday, said, "The only problem I have with the Auburn program right now is we're not a Nike school. I've had some conversations with [AD Jay Jacobs], I think we need to separate from the football program and go with Nike. ... I would love to see Auburn switch to Nike on the basketball side of it." In Alabama, James Crepea notes the shoe and apparel deal has been "a major bone of contention for many within the basketball program privately" (MONTGOMERY ADVERTISER, 3/14).
Those are pretty bold statements about a company that you are contracting with. UA also got some bad press over the olmypics as well...
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Auburn F Allen Payne on Thursday wrote on his Twitter account the men's basketball team "will struggle as long as we are under Under Armour," according to Colin McGowan of SPORTS ON EARTH. McGowan writes, "I’m pretty sure he means Auburn’s association with Under Armour sinks it by making it nigh impossible to recruit top high school talent." The "line of thinking" is that because Nike and adidas "sponsor a slew of the most prominent basketball camps, tournaments and AAU teams, they have a hand in steering the best young players toward programs ... with which their companies are affiliated." UA is "a second-tier basketball brand." It is "not that UA doesn’t sponsor the same sorts of things the bigger companies do, but it doesn’t have the foothold in the marketplace that Nike or Adidas has." UA "probably came to Auburn with an interest in being the chosen brand of Auburn Football, and because these types of deals are athletic department-wide, it also outfits the basketball team." This has had the "unintended consequence of dooming the basketball program, which wasn’t particularly good in the first place" (SPORTSONEARTH.com, 3/14). Basketball HOFer Charles Barkley said that he wanted Auburn "to change its apparel affiliation for basketball" from UA to Nike. Former Auburn coach Tony Barbee, prior to being fired by the school on Wednesday, said, "The only problem I have with the Auburn program right now is we're not a Nike school. I've had some conversations with [AD Jay Jacobs], I think we need to separate from the football program and go with Nike. ... I would love to see Auburn switch to Nike on the basketball side of it." In Alabama, James Crepea notes the shoe and apparel deal has been "a major bone of contention for many within the basketball program privately" (MONTGOMERY ADVERTISER, 3/14).
Reason why we have no 2014 recruits signed?
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@darrenrovell: Brutal tournament for Under Armour. Auburn, BC, Maryland, Temple, St John's all miss tournament. Only have Stephen F Austin.
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Clearly our book store sales pushed UA over top. ;)
@MySportsLegion: Under Armor is reportedly offering Kevin Durant a 10 year, $325 million endorsement deal. Incredible.
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In other news, I noticed that the season ticket-holder gift this year will be a UA duffle bag.
So... there's that.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/stjo/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/Become_A_Season_Ticket_Member.pdf (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/stjo/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/Become_A_Season_Ticket_Member.pdf)
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In other news, I noticed that the season ticket-holder gift this year will be a UA duffle bag.
So... there's that.
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/stjo/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/Become_A_Season_Ticket_Member.pdf (http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/stjo/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/2014-15/misc_non_event/Become_A_Season_Ticket_Member.pdf)
Last year we got like a leather agenda book, I'll take the bag and be happy.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/under-armour-business-mistakes-2017-3
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"Athleisure" is a new one for me... I've seen it, likely have some in drawers, but didn't think it was a trend.
Under Armour is a good brand but that potential to be a great brand... from the article though it seems it's putting the shorter term financials first in it's decision making.
What didn't make Nike great was having great running sneakers or Jordan... it was the message that it shared in that everyone could be an athlete. They don't even need to advertise the product, they just connect the logo with the feeling.
Same goes for Apple and others...