Chris Mullin's seat getting hotter?

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Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

You need to take a break to get your mind straight. Between your knocking of our All-American Ponds to drivel about mid-majors, you are losing it.

We aren't setup to recruit the kids you described. Our talent pool consists of kids from or near big cities who are athletic and play fast. We aren't in Wisconsin or Nebraska like Marquette and Creighton. We don't have amazing academics like Georgetown. We need to be creative to get transfers and land a star or two like Ponds.

How can you love Simon so much and then turn around and say we need to recruit skilled shooters?! Simon is the antithesis of what you just described. He is the antithesis of the Villanova player.

Simon is a good player. Ponds is a really good player. That is 2 of 12. 5 or 6 more Marvin Clark's sprinkled in and we are near top of BE.

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Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

You need to take a break to get your mind straight. Between your knocking of our All-American Ponds to drivel about mid-majors, you are losing it.

We aren't setup to recruit the kids you described. Our talent pool consists of kids from or near big cities who are athletic and play fast. We aren't in Wisconsin or Nebraska like Marquette and Creighton. We don't have amazing academics like Georgetown. We need to be creative to get transfers and land a star or two like Ponds.

How can you love Simon so much and then turn around and say we need to recruit skilled shooters?! Simon is the antithesis of what you just described. He is the antithesis of the Villanova player.

Simon is a good player. Ponds is a really good player. That is 2 of 12. 5 or 6 more Marvin Clark's sprinkled in and we are near top of BE.

How many wings that handle and shoot like Simon did you see the last 3-4 rounds? I didn't see any.

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Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

You need to take a break to get your mind straight. Between your knocking of our All-American Ponds to drivel about mid-majors, you are losing it.

We aren't setup to recruit the kids you described. Our talent pool consists of kids from or near big cities who are athletic and play fast. We aren't in Wisconsin or Nebraska like Marquette and Creighton. We don't have amazing academics like Georgetown. We need to be creative to get transfers and land a star or two like Ponds.

How can you love Simon so much and then turn around and say we need to recruit skilled shooters?! Simon is the antithesis of what you just described. He is the antithesis of the Villanova player.

Simon is a good player. Ponds is a really good player. That is 2 of 12. 5 or 6 more Marvin Clark's sprinkled in and we are near top of BE.

How many wings that handle and shoot like Simon did you see the last 3-4 rounds? I didn't see any.

Muhammed Ali Joe Frazier Mahmoud Rauf Rahmin from Michigan

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Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

You need to take a break to get your mind straight. Between your knocking of our All-American Ponds to drivel about mid-majors, you are losing it.

We aren't setup to recruit the kids you described. Our talent pool consists of kids from or near big cities who are athletic and play fast. We aren't in Wisconsin or Nebraska like Marquette and Creighton. We don't have amazing academics like Georgetown. We need to be creative to get transfers and land a star or two like Ponds.

How can you love Simon so much and then turn around and say we need to recruit skilled shooters?! Simon is the antithesis of what you just described. He is the antithesis of the Villanova player.

Simon is a good player. Ponds is a really good player. That is 2 of 12. 5 or 6 more Marvin Clark's sprinkled in and we are near top of BE.

How many wings that handle and shoot like Simon did you see the last 3-4 rounds? I didn't see any.

Muhammed Ali Joe Frazier Mahmoud Rauf Rahmin from Michigan

Now you've officially lost it. Beilein wouldn't give a kid like Simon a second glance. His entire system would fall apart with the crappy spacing and turnovers. That kid, I refuse to write his ridiculous name, is a great shooter and has a good handle. He shoots 4.8 threes per game at 38% and he averages only 0.7 turnovers to 3.2 assists. He also 40 lbs lighter. I'm not quite sure your eyes are working well. Time for glasses.

Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

You post the same thing over and over. What does that say about you.

We are all insane to share a web site with you, someone who makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like Will Rodgers.

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Quote from: we are sju on April 03, 2018, 02:43:10 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

You need to take a break to get your mind straight. Between your knocking of our All-American Ponds to drivel about mid-majors, you are losing it.

We aren't setup to recruit the kids you described. Our talent pool consists of kids from or near big cities who are athletic and play fast. We aren't in Wisconsin or Nebraska like Marquette and Creighton. We don't have amazing academics like Georgetown. We need to be creative to get transfers and land a star or two like Ponds.

How can you love Simon so much and then turn around and say we need to recruit skilled shooters?! Simon is the antithesis of what you just described. He is the antithesis of the Villanova player.

Simon is a good player. Ponds is a really good player. That is 2 of 12. 5 or 6 more Marvin Clark's sprinkled in and we are near top of BE.

How many wings that handle and shoot like Simon did you see the last 3-4 rounds? I didn't see any.

Muhammed Ali Joe Frazier Mahmoud Rauf Rahmin from Michigan

Now you've officially lost it. Beilein wouldn't give a kid like Simon a second glance. His entire system would fall apart with the crappy spacing and turnovers. That kid, I refuse to write his ridiculous name, is a great shooter and has a good handle. He shoots 4.8 threes per game at 38% and he averages only 0.7 turnovers to 3.2 assists. He also 40 lbs lighter. I'm not quite sure your eyes are working well. Time for glasses.

Ridculous name or ridiculously long name?

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Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

You need to take a break to get your mind straight. Between your knocking of our All-American Ponds to drivel about mid-majors, you are losing it.

We aren't setup to recruit the kids you described. Our talent pool consists of kids from or near big cities who are athletic and play fast. We aren't in Wisconsin or Nebraska like Marquette and Creighton. We don't have amazing academics like Georgetown. We need to be creative to get transfers and land a star or two like Ponds.

How can you love Simon so much and then turn around and say we need to recruit skilled shooters?! Simon is the antithesis of what you just described. He is the antithesis of the Villanova player.

Simon is a good player. Ponds is a really good player. That is 2 of 12. 5 or 6 more Marvin Clark's sprinkled in and we are near top of BE.

How many wings that handle and shoot like Simon did you see the last 3-4 rounds? I didn't see any.

Muhammed Ali Joe Frazier Mahmoud Rauf Rahmin from Michigan

Now you've officially lost it. Beilein wouldn't give a kid like Simon a second glance. His entire system would fall apart with the crappy spacing and turnovers. That kid, I refuse to write his ridiculous name, is a great shooter and has a good handle. He shoots 4.8 threes per game at 38% and he averages only 0.7 turnovers to 3.2 assists. He also 40 lbs lighter. I'm not quite sure your eyes are working well. Time for glasses.

“Ridiculous”

You know Marillac, round these parts (New York City) some people might take offense to that.
You moved to Florida and the world went and got itself in a great big hurry. Try to keep up.

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Quote from: Celtics11 on April 03, 2018, 02:27:14 PM

we are sju-even if we accept your second choice than he still sucks as a coach (and I'm not saying he does I'm saying your premise says so) because he has a recruiting plan that you say is not working and he sticks to it. As they say doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.

I think it is hard for anyone to recruit here. Outside of Lavin's first class no one has been able to recruit consistently since Fran and he was only here 2 years.  I think it is also extremely hard for someone of Mullin's stature to deal with all of the nonsense and ass kissing of kids and delusional parents. That is where the Slice / Matt team was supposed to take over. That failure should fall on Mullin.  As is the dependence on Matt to recruit transfer players.

ST John's needs to embrace a dirty word around here mid major. Not move into a mid major but recruit like one. Recruit 3 star 6-3 to 6-6 kids that can shoot the three. Mix in a 4 star and transfer kid here and there that fit your system. But bread and butter should be three star kids that can shoot.

You need to take a break to get your mind straight. Between your knocking of our All-American Ponds to drivel about mid-majors, you are losing it.

We aren't setup to recruit the kids you described. Our talent pool consists of kids from or near big cities who are athletic and play fast. We aren't in Wisconsin or Nebraska like Marquette and Creighton. We don't have amazing academics like Georgetown. We need to be creative to get transfers and land a star or two like Ponds.

How can you love Simon so much and then turn around and say we need to recruit skilled shooters?! Simon is the antithesis of what you just described. He is the antithesis of the Villanova player.

Simon is a good player. Ponds is a really good player. That is 2 of 12. 5 or 6 more Marvin Clark's sprinkled in and we are near top of BE.

How many wings that handle and shoot like Simon did you see the last 3-4 rounds? I didn't see any.

Muhammed Ali Joe Frazier Mahmoud Rauf Rahmin from Michigan

Now you've officially lost it. Beilein wouldn't give a kid like Simon a second glance. His entire system would fall apart with the crappy spacing and turnovers. That kid, I refuse to write his ridiculous name, is a great shooter and has a good handle. He shoots 4.8 threes per game at 38% and he averages only 0.7 turnovers to 3.2 assists. He also 40 lbs lighter. I'm not quite sure your eyes are working well. Time for glasses.

“Ridiculous”

You know Marillac, round these parts (New York City) some people might take offense to that.
You moved to Florida and the world went and got itself in a great big hurry. Try to keep up.

Great post lil' buddy. Did you do that all on your own? I was worried because I haven't seen you post in a few days. I thought maybe your guardian restricted your screen time. Thank you for the update on NYC! Hopefully the Easter Bunny brought you and your housemates a lot of treats.

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Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

I highly doubt it.

I guess you will be disappointed. Don't worry the year after we will probably stink. That should cheer you up

You're right I'll be disappointed when we stink again because our coach was too lazy to recruit 2 grad transfer bigs because he has to make his appearances at Warriors games.

What is more realistic? Guy whose whole life is built around working hard came back to the place that helped make him and suddenly decided to stop working. OR it is hard for anyone to recruit here legally and both him and everyone's favorite midget recruiting plan is not sound? 2nd choice might not make you feel better but it is the correct choice.

Im tired of hearing the "he's worked hard in everything he's done," moniker. Its gotten old real fast. What has he done as  head coach that proves that statement to be correct? Matt A does all the recruiting, St. Jean runs all the practices and comes up with the plays. What have you heard about him recruiting?  Just because he is a Hall of Famer doesn't mean he doesn't have to bust his ass on the recruiting trail like all the other great coaches have to build their programs. Recruiting is not only trying to get players to come and play for your program, but it is also about getting players on your team to buy in and want to stay and play for you, which he has done a horrible job with so far. I truly believe if we had Lovett, SIma, Ellison, and Mussini this year, there is no doubt that we would have been a tournament team.

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Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

I highly doubt it.

I guess you will be disappointed. Don't worry the year after we will probably stink. That should cheer you up

You're right I'll be disappointed when we stink again because our coach was too lazy to recruit 2 grad transfer bigs because he has to make his appearances at Warriors games.

What is more realistic? Guy whose whole life is built around working hard came back to the place that helped make him and suddenly decided to stop working. OR it is hard for anyone to recruit here legally and both him and everyone's favorite midget recruiting plan is not sound? 2nd choice might not make you feel better but it is the correct choice.

Im tired of hearing the "he's worked hard in everything he's done," moniker. Its gotten old real fast. What has he done as  head coach that proves that statement to be correct? Matt A does all the recruiting, St. Jean runs all the practices and comes up with the plays. What have you heard about him recruiting?  Just because he is a Hall of Famer doesn't mean he doesn't have to bust his ass on the recruiting trail like all the other great coaches have to build their programs. Recruiting is not only trying to get players to come and play for your program, but it is also about getting players on your team to buy in and want to stay and play for you, which he has done a horrible job with so far. I truly believe if we had Lovett, SIma, Ellison, and Mussini this year, there is no doubt that we would have been a tournament team.

Yeah that straw man argument gets old real fast. The argument is basically just because you were a great player, worked hard at it and were around the game your whole life means you're going to succeed as a HC. Total BS! We've already seen too many cases of this not working. If this was a career achievement award then Mullin wins. Yet this has nothing to do with his past and everything to do with his current job which he is lousy at.  Besides keeping his players eligible and staying out of trouble, all that matters is wins/losses and how you do on the recruiting trail. He has yet to prove he is capable to succeed at either yet and next season is his judgement day.

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Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

Lose 2 starters. Plus yakwe. Bring in 1 good not great recruit.  What are We betting ?
What if ponds leaves?

What are We betting ?

Even money that you're dumber than an earth grader.

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What are We betting ?

Even money that you're dumber than an earth grader.

Only going to get worse. What if we don't land that transfer from North Carolina a&m? or that other kid from Suny Cortland or is it Oneonta? Doesn't matter those Suny schools are all good.   
1/5 we play 8/9 game in the big east tournament
2/1 a walk-on plays extended minutes during Big East

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Really do not understand it as well. Why do we rarely hear of him ever going hard after any of these high school recruits or even transfers? All we ever here is "Matt was in to see so and so yesterday." When recruits who we are recruiting are asked about where St. Johns stands its usually that they speak to matt or that we have 2 hall of fame coaches. They never mention a relationship they have with those hall of fame coaches. Paultz do you have any insight to this at all, or is what is being written true, that Mullin is not really working hard at recruiting? It is beyond frustrating.

As noted often, we have a one recruiter model for most part. Too dependent on one guy and unrealistic  work load in my opinion. Can’t say with certainty what CM does, but if he is the closer & planning, coordinating the efforts of two guys that seems fine

This guy has already collected 6 million. When will the kid gloves be taken off? If he doesn’t want the job, once again he should quit. If he wants the job, do it right. Richmond needs to go. A real coach has to be hired. Our head coach has to quadruple his efforts. One guy can’t recuit. 4 coaches are getting paid.

I am on a roll predicting things. Won office NCAA bracket pool. Had Nova beating Michigan which was easy but I also had Loyola making it to Sweet 16. Also won my top Gun NCAA pool.
I bring this up because I predict we win 22 games next year and lose 8/9 game. Then Mullin will resign and ride off into the sunset having made the exact number of NCAA tourney's in his first 4 years that Lavin did. But I really hope the last part does not come true. Your constant Pet Detective"laces out Dan" rantings used to annoy me. But now it actually brings me happiness that you are so distraught. So I am rooting that I am wrong on this prediction and Mullin gets a lifetime extension. Unless of course you promise that you will only give Will Brown a year before you start crying about him to quit?

You think I am distraught. Maybe a few years ago. I knew bringing up quit would get you going. Still that is what he should do. 22 wins with this roster? Great prediction dick vitale. Maybe he will win  22 in year 4 and 5 combined. You are right, because of nitwits like you a life time contract is still possible.

Ponds comes back they make the tourney.

I highly doubt it.

I guess you will be disappointed. Don't worry the year after we will probably stink. That should cheer you up

You're right I'll be disappointed when we stink again because our coach was too lazy to recruit 2 grad transfer bigs because he has to make his appearances at Warriors games.

What is more realistic? Guy whose whole life is built around working hard came back to the place that helped make him and suddenly decided to stop working. OR it is hard for anyone to recruit here legally and both him and everyone's favorite midget recruiting plan is not sound? 2nd choice might not make you feel better but it is the correct choice.

I wouldn't even be mad if you heard that he was out at different HS gyms and AAU games every week. But he just seems apathetic. It's one thing to not be able to recruit its a whole other thing not to try at all.

Do you think he took this job thinking that all he would have to do is wait in his office and have the recruits come to him ? Or hire a staff to do all the work. Just doesn't make sense. And where is Goff in all of this ?

it seems every coach who comes here all of a sudden becomes lazy and arrogant. wonder why that is?

it seems every coach who comes here all of a sudden becomes lazy and arrogant. wonder why that is?

The ones that have been I can think of at least two reasons- 1)because they can (are allowed to)  2) easy money. Most of us would take a high paying job where yo don't have to work to hard.

https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2018/4/5/17169106/st-johns-grade-chris-mullin-third-year-readers

link only about Mullin, have a hard time believing people who were driven and successful before arriving, go soft upon moving to SJU.

https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2018/4/5/17169106/st-johns-grade-chris-mullin-third-year-readers

link only about Mullin, have a hard time believing people who were driven and successful before arriving, go soft upon moving to SJU.

You'd have to ask Mullin that. He's clearly not getting the job done. Regardless of the circumstances, you are what your record says you are.

Perhaps more interesting Zach tweet tonight;

https://twitter.com/jcoggs17/status/982803533287260160

I wonder who our next coach will be. It's becoming fairly obvious Mullin won't last past next year. He didn't even show up to Femi's visit because he was probably too busy playing HORSE with coach Mitch. The writing is on the wall, and I can't wait until he steps away. It may not solve all the problems currently at SJU, but I'd at least rather have a coach who actually cares about the program, and does his job. He obviously could care less about his job, and he sucks at it.