6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: talkbigeast on January 17, 2018, 03:03:38 PM
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Heading down to DC tomorrow for the weekend with the gf for the St. Johns - Gtown Game....Some xmas gift she got me.... ::)
sitting in Section 109 ...looking for a bar outside the stadium if to have some drinks before the game if anyone is going down and knows of places to go / or wants to meet up before before we potential get our soul crushed at the game let me know.
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You may see a win.
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Heading down to DC tomorrow for the weekend with the gf for the St. Johns - Gtown Game....Some xmas gift she got me.... ::)
sitting in Section 109 ...looking for a bar outside the stadium if to have some drinks before the game if anyone is going down and knows of places to go / or wants to meet up before before we potential get our soul crushed at the game let me know.
I'll be there as well. Not sure of our section yet, but my buddies and I (also stj grads) will be around before. There is a sushi place we go to before Wizards games...could be an option tho early
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I cannot understate what a huge game this is with the chance of revenge. The nation will be holding it's breath to see who comes out on top in this battle of titans in the college basketball world. Is ESPN's College Gameday going to originate from D.C. this Saturday? And let's not forget the battle of the coaching legends that the game will entail. Why it's as if the legendary John Wooden was coming back from the dead to face off against the living legend Mike Krzyzewski.
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I cannot understate what a huge game this is with the chance of revenge. The nation will be holding it's breath to see who comes out on top in this battle of titans in the college basketball world. Is ESPN's College Gameday going to originate from D.C. this Saturday? And let's not forget the battle of the coaching legends that the game will entail. Why it's as if the legendary John Wooden was coming back from the dead to face off against the living legend Mike Krzyzewski.
Maybe, a one-on-one between the head coaches.
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You may see a win.
3 places SJU has not won at since the inception of the new BE. They are 0-5 at Creighton, 0-4 at Villanova and 0-4 at Georgetown I believe. This might be their best chance to get one of those at Georgetown.
BTW Villanova is laying a beatdown on Georgetown, 63-25, that is not a misprint....
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Ha!
I'm not saying this because of tonight's game, as I've said this all along.... I don't think he's gonna amount to much of a coach there. He might tease 'em a few games or even for a season, but I just don't believe it's gonna work out.
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I cannot understate what a huge game this is with the chance of revenge. The nation will be holding it's breath to see who comes out on top in this battle of titans in the college basketball world. Is ESPN's College Gameday going to originate from D.C. this Saturday? And let's not forget the battle of the coaching legends that the game will entail. Why it's as if the legendary John Wooden was coming back from the dead to face off against the living legend Mike Krzyzewski.
This game is meaningless provided St.John’s is still too blind to see the writing on the wall.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
Imagine if Mullin started off at St.John’s with some coaching experience. Mullin is 0-7. That is entirely on him.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
Govan is so soft.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
Usually disagree with most of what you post, but that is spot on.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
The point of my post is no one has any clue at this point either way. There were people who literally are judging Ewing based on a few minutes of viewing him in a huddle and on the sideline and saying he seems to be more prepared than Mullin. Just nonsense.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
The point of my post is no one has any clue at this point either way. There were people who literally are judging Ewing based on a few minutes of viewing him in a huddle and on the sideline and saying he seems to be more prepared than Mullin. Just nonsense.
I am a Mullin guy. If you are going to look / act detached during TO's and in the huddle and you are unsuccessful as he has been it just adds to the criticism. Based of his won / loss record it is a fair criticism as is most anything when you lose this much.
No idea how things work at with Ewing but by looking more engaged he probably will buy himself more time than Mullin has.
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Two games on SJU's schedule I give them no chance in winning, at Villanova and home to Duke. Zero.
I am not suggesting they will win against Creighton or Xavier at home, but would it shock you if they split? Could they go to Butler or Marquette or Providence and maybe steal one? I think so. They have the personnel on a given night to beat those teams.
And Georgetown and DePaul even on the road, SJU can not only win those games but at this point they almost have to. See if they can get to 5-13 or 6-12 and then re-group and push real hard next year.
But man if they lose Saturday...1-17 and 2-16 does come into play. I do feel like though if they can breakthrough and win Saturday they can go on a mini-run...Beat some decent teams at home and maybe steal a couple on the road.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
The point of my post is no one has any clue at this point either way. There were people who literally are judging Ewing based on a few minutes of viewing him in a huddle and on the sideline and saying he seems to be more prepared than Mullin. Just nonsense.
I am a Mullin guy. If you are going to look / act detached during TO's and in the huddle and you are unsuccessful as he has been it just adds to the criticism. Based of his won / loss record it is a fair criticism as is most anything when you lose this much.
No idea how things work at with Ewing but by looking more engaged he probably will buy himself more time than Mullin has.
Whatever that is just nonsense. Base it on his shoe color. You don't attend practices, huddles, you have zero connection to Georgetown and they have done nothing this year yet you want to say these stupid things. I don't care.
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Win or lose against Georgetown, and we are still going to be under 500 for the season in Mullin's 3rd year. You finish under 500 in college basketball and you suck, no two ways about it.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
The point of my post is no one has any clue at this point either way. There were people who literally are judging Ewing based on a few minutes of viewing him in a huddle and on the sideline and saying he seems to be more prepared than Mullin. Just nonsense.
I am a Mullin guy. If you are going to look / act detached during TO's and in the huddle and you are unsuccessful as he has been it just adds to the criticism. Based of his won / loss record it is a fair criticism as is most anything when you lose this much.
No idea how things work at with Ewing but by looking more engaged he probably will buy himself more time than Mullin has.
Whatever that is just nonsense. Base it on his shoe color. You don't attend practices, huddles, you have zero connection to Georgetown and they have done nothing this year yet you want to say these stupid things. I don't care.
You really are an annoying little guy. You argue both sides of every point.
There has been probably 1,000 posts about Mullin's sideline demeanor, dry board, sitting on tables, etc on these boards. Where both you and I are posting. None of what is said on these boards has any effect whatsoever on Chris Mullin in real life. People on these boards criticize Mullin for many things. Most unfortunately deserved at this point. If he had looked more involved it would have lessened the criticisms ON THESE BOARDS. That is a fact.
Now go ahead and tell me that no one could know anything until it actually happens.
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Win or lose against Georgetown, and we are still going to be under 500 for the season in Mullin's 3rd year. You finish under 500 in college basketball and you suck, no two ways about it.
Oh I'm not suggesting somehow if they can win 5 or 6 that this would deemed to be a successful season, no way. This season is a clear step back that needs to be met next season with 2 steps forward.
All I am saying is it would give us something to cheer for and some hope going into next season if they can start winning some of these starting Saturday. The one string I am holding onto is they are not getting summarily blown out like they were a year ago in all of their losses, especially to the better teams. They have shown some competitive fire.
If you want to keep whining and calling for a coaching change even though you know it is not going to happen, that's fine.
But at this point I am trying to find some silver linings.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
The point of my post is no one has any clue at this point either way. There were people who literally are judging Ewing based on a few minutes of viewing him in a huddle and on the sideline and saying he seems to be more prepared than Mullin. Just nonsense.
I am a Mullin guy. If you are going to look / act detached during TO's and in the huddle and you are unsuccessful as he has been it just adds to the criticism. Based of his won / loss record it is a fair criticism as is most anything when you lose this much.
No idea how things work at with Ewing but by looking more engaged he probably will buy himself more time than Mullin has.
Whatever that is just nonsense. Base it on his shoe color. You don't attend practices, huddles, you have zero connection to Georgetown and they have done nothing this year yet you want to say these stupid things. I don't care.
You really are an annoying little guy. You argue both sides of every point.
There has been probably 1,000 posts about Mullin's sideline demeanor, dry board, sitting on tables, etc on these boards. Where both you and I are posting. None of what is said on these boards has any effect whatsoever on Chris Mullin in real life. People on these boards criticize Mullin for many things. Most unfortunately deserved at this point. If he had looked more involved it would have lessened the criticisms ON THESE BOARDS. That is a fact.
Now go ahead and tell me that no one could know anything until it actually happens.
You are like a bad penny. The fact you feel the need to respond to every post is remarkable.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
The point of my post is no one has any clue at this point either way. There were people who literally are judging Ewing based on a few minutes of viewing him in a huddle and on the sideline and saying he seems to be more prepared than Mullin. Just nonsense.
I am a Mullin guy. If you are going to look / act detached during TO's and in the huddle and you are unsuccessful as he has been it just adds to the criticism. Based of his won / loss record it is a fair criticism as is most anything when you lose this much.
No idea how things work at with Ewing but by looking more engaged he probably will buy himself more time than Mullin has.
Whatever that is just nonsense. Base it on his shoe color. You don't attend practices, huddles, you have zero connection to Georgetown and they have done nothing this year yet you want to say these stupid things. I don't care.
You really are an annoying little guy. You argue both sides of every point.
There has been probably 1,000 posts about Mullin's sideline demeanor, dry board, sitting on tables, etc on these boards. Where both you and I are posting. None of what is said on these boards has any effect whatsoever on Chris Mullin in real life. People on these boards criticize Mullin for many things. Most unfortunately deserved at this point. If he had looked more involved it would have lessened the criticisms ON THESE BOARDS. That is a fact.
Now go ahead and tell me that no one could know anything until it actually happens.
You are like a bad penny. The fact you feel the need to respond to every post is remarkable.
You are basically Baldi in an angry off putting way. You really come on here to argue with everyone. You bash people complaining about Mullin and defending Mullin. You really take no sides or have any agenda except being a troll. You were tolerable back in the day but now you are just an angry little guy. Like an old guy yelling at kids playing in the park to be quiet.
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Win or lose against Georgetown, and we are still going to be under 500 for the season in Mullin's 3rd year. You finish under 500 in college basketball and you suck, no two ways about it.
Yes, you are right, it is not going to happen, which is most frustrating. For me, at this point I could care less about wins and losses, I want to see improvement as a team in areas that we have stunk at for 3 years. Rebounding we will get crushed on Saturday, but maybe, just maybe sju can play better perimeter defense and win a game they should.
Oh I'm not suggesting somehow if they can win 5 or 6 that this would deemed to be a successful season, no way. This season is a clear step back that needs to be met next season with 2 steps forward.
All I am saying is it would give us something to cheer for and some hope going into next season if they can start winning some of these starting Saturday. The one string I am holding onto is they are not getting summarily blown out like they were a year ago in all of their losses, especially to the better teams. They have shown some competitive fire.
If you want to keep whining and calling for a coaching change even though you know it is not going to happen, that's fine.
But at this point I am trying to find some silver linings.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
Total BS! They why were we preseason picked 5-6 and G'Town 9-10 (even in the BE coaches poll)? You weren't saying this nonsense before the season. Does G'town have anyone as good as your boy Ponds?
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Saint Bartholomew (the saint of lost causes for you heathens) appeared to me last nite in response to my desperate prayers and said (in a voice eerily like James Earle Jones) "Lo, these many years the School of St. John has failed miserably in the pursuit of your strange game of basketball. Your prayers shall be answered. I have decided to give them 5 more victories and then allow them to sweep through the pagan city of new York like the Romans through Gaul. Im afraid I cant do a thing about the warriors from The Carolinas and Philadelphia. Even the Lord could not help you with them. Sleep well my son"
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You may see a win.
Hopefully they win.
They can't go 0-4 against G-Town and DePaul, can they?
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
Yes results have been bad, but I think he didn't help himself with the "optics". Or if George Blaney or at least some guy that looked like one of the old guys from the Muppets instead of ST Jean had been using the the dry board.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
If that is what the point is then it iscridiculous on a different number of ways.
Also being an NBA assistant as opposed to Mullin's long history in the NBA in various roles is marginally different.
And regardless, they were basing it on what they have seen combined with his background. Both incredibly dubious claims...
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
Yes results have been bad, but I think he didn't help himself with the "optics". Or if George Blaney or at least some guy that looked like one of the old guys from the Muppets instead of ST Jean had been using the the dry board.
I was at that game. St. John’s shirt and hat on. Sitting in same row as his family. I was excited and happy to see Chris Mullin. I took pictures of him and sent him to my friends. Bad optics is wearing an under armor sweatshirt under you suit jacket. Not taking charge and basically not doing anything with your team as they are getting smoked by a division 2 team is not bad oPtics. Slice and Matt sat as statues. Mullin socialized. The boy tried to coach but he was overwhelmed. Not a good 1st impression
Patrick seems to be trying his best. That is all a person can do. Was a huge Knick fan. I wish him well. Mullin in year 3 is better then day 1. Still don’t think he is capable or willing to put in the work to be a good coach. I have been done with this experiment for over 2 years. Our coach should have been more prepared and more self aware or he should have kept his mouth shut and we could have a real coach.
8-35. Lost the last 9 big east games.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
Yes results have been bad, but I think he didn't help himself with the "optics". Or if George Blaney or at least some guy that looked like one of the old guys from the Muppets instead of ST Jean had been using the the dry board.
I was at that game. St. John’s shirt and hat on. Sitting in same row as his family. I was excited and happy to see Chris Mullin. I took pictures of him and sent him to my friends. Bad optics is wearing an under armor sweatshirt under you suit jacket. Not taking charge and basically not doing anything with your team as they are getting smoked by a division 2 team is not bad oPtics. Slice and Matt sat as statues. Mullin socialized. The boy tried to coach but he was overwhelmed. Not a good 1st impression
Patrick seems to be trying his best. That is all a person can do. Was a huge Knick fan. I wish him well. Mullin in year 3 is better then day 1. Still don’t think he is capable or willing to put in the work to be a good coach. I have been done with this experiment for over 2 years. Our coach should have been more prepared and more self aware or he should have kept his mouth shut and we could have a real coach.
8-35. Lost the last 9 big east games.
Here is the one thing I will argue to the death. People who are hardworking throughout their whole life do not suddenly become lazy. Mullin was a self made basketball star. I doubt very much he took a job at the place that made him who he is and then decided to mail it in. He may not be able to coach and he certainly could have done things differently but I doubt any of this comes out of laziness.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
It doesn't matter what the circumstances are, if you go 1-17, you're goin to hear it. Mullin has had 2 years to be awful at this. The fact that he's still awful at this is unacceptable.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
Yes results have been bad, but I think he didn't help himself with the "optics". Or if George Blaney or at least some guy that looked like one of the old guys from the Muppets instead of ST Jean had been using the the dry board.
I was at that game. St. John’s shirt and hat on. Sitting in same row as his family. I was excited and happy to see Chris Mullin. I took pictures of him and sent him to my friends. Bad optics is wearing an under armor sweatshirt under you suit jacket. Not taking charge and basically not doing anything with your team as they are getting smoked by a division 2 team is not bad oPtics. Slice and Matt sat as statues. Mullin socialized. The boy tried to coach but he was overwhelmed. Not a good 1st impression
Patrick seems to be trying his best. That is all a person can do. Was a huge Knick fan. I wish him well. Mullin in year 3 is better then day 1. Still don’t think he is capable or willing to put in the work to be a good coach. I have been done with this experiment for over 2 years. Our coach should have been more prepared and more self aware or he should have kept his mouth shut and we could have a real coach.
8-35. Lost the last 9 big east games.
Here is the one thing I will argue to the death. People who are hardworking throughout their whole life do not suddenly become lazy. Mullin was a self made basketball star. I doubt very much he took a job at the place that made him who he is and then decided to mail it in. He may not be able to coach and he certainly could have done things differently but I doubt any of this comes out of laziness.
I don't doubt how hardworking Mullin was his whole life to become the player that he was. However coaching is a totally different animal than any job Mullin ever had as a player or front office guy. It's especially hard to become a head coach at 50+ when you have never coached a day in your life especially at a high level like a Power 5 conf. I think Mullin may be lazy in the sense that as a high level head coach you need to be on the road recruiting and that's a real year round grind. He may have not really taken seriously how much of a commitment that was and it's just too much for him. Maybe, maybe not but this next 12 months will tell us a lot more in regards to how serious he is about this job.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
If that is what the point is then it iscridiculous on a different number of ways.
Also being an NBA assistant as opposed to Mullin's long history in the NBA in various roles is marginally different.
And regardless, they were basing it on what they have seen combined with his background. Both incredibly dubious claims...
Note to self. Don't hire Fordham96. He doesn't know the difference between experience and lack thereof, nor between the many varied roles that folks serve in a company.
But seriously, here's Mullin's post playing experience. Note no role in coaching or player development, though he did have a role in scouting, ergo his ability to identify transcendent talent like that which STJ has put on the floor during his tenure (I kid because I love, besides we know Matt is doing all the "scouting" for recruits) :
Front office positions
After his playing days were over, Mullin was hired by the Warriors as a special assistant, dealing with daily business operations. On April 22, 2004, he was named Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations for the team.[10] On May 11, 2009, the team announced that Mullin's expiring contract would not be renewed.[11] He was replaced by Larry Riley as the Warriors' General Manager.
Mullin began working with the Sacramento Kings in May 2013 when Vivek Ranadivé became owner.[12] In September 2013, the Sacramento Kings hired him as an advisor.[13] As an advisor, Mullin's duties were not only to provide advice to Ranadive and D'Alessandro on player transactions, but to also supervise the organization's college and overseas scouting program.[14]
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Just a quick question, can we stop calling this Year 3 for Mullin? Year 1 is null and void. He had no talent to work with and had to fill almost an entire team in less than 5 months. That 1st year should not be considered. As of right now, he is 24-27 and 7-17 in Conference Play with a Big East Tournament win. It's been an unfortunate year but it hasn't been a bad year. We've had two bad losses but I see no reason why it can't be turned around. We haven't been noncompetitive in any game this season except for one half against Providence.
It's Year 2 and while our record looks worse, our performance has been better overall.
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Just a quick question, can we stop calling this Year 3 for Mullin?
I vote no.
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Just a quick question, can we stop calling this Year 3 for Mullin? Year 1 is null and void. He had no talent to work with and had to fill almost an entire team in less than 5 months. That 1st year should not be considered. As of right now, he is 24-27 and 7-17 in Conference Play with a Big East Tournament win. It's been an unfortunate year but it hasn't been a bad year. We've had two bad losses but I see no reason why it can't be turned around. We haven't been noncompetitive in any game this season except for one half against Providence.
It's Year 2 and while our record looks worse, our performance has been better overall.
I am with you but would like to add an addendum to pretending year one of Chris Mullin never happened. I would also like to pretend the following never happened:
Rocky V
Caddy Shack 2
Another 48 hours
Norm Roberts
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Just a quick question, can we stop calling this Year 3 for Mullin? Year 1 is null and void. He had no talent to work with and had to fill almost an entire team in less than 5 months. That 1st year should not be considered. As of right now, he is 24-27 and 7-17 in Conference Play with a Big East Tournament win. It's been an unfortunate year but it hasn't been a bad year. We've had two bad losses but I see no reason why it can't be turned around. We haven't been noncompetitive in any game this season except for one half against Providence.
It's Year 2 and while our record looks worse, our performance has been better overall.
I am with you but would like to add an addendum to pretending year one of Chris Mullin never happened. I would also like to pretend the following never happened:
Rocky V
Caddy Shack 2
Another 48 hours
Norm Roberts
The remake of Karate Kid
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
Yes results have been bad, but I think he didn't help himself with the "optics". Or if George Blaney or at least some guy that looked like one of the old guys from the Muppets instead of ST Jean had been using the the dry board.
I was at that game. St. John’s shirt and hat on. Sitting in same row as his family. I was excited and happy to see Chris Mullin. I took pictures of him and sent him to my friends. Bad optics is wearing an under armor sweatshirt under you suit jacket. Not taking charge and basically not doing anything with your team as they are getting smoked by a division 2 team is not bad oPtics. Slice and Matt sat as statues. Mullin socialized. The boy tried to coach but he was overwhelmed. Not a good 1st impression
Patrick seems to be trying his best. That is all a person can do. Was a huge Knick fan. I wish him well. Mullin in year 3 is better then day 1. Still don’t think he is capable or willing to put in the work to be a good coach. I have been done with this experiment for over 2 years. Our coach should have been more prepared and more self aware or he should have kept his mouth shut and we could have a real coach.
8-35. Lost the last 9 big east games.
Here is the one thing I will argue to the death. People who are hardworking throughout their whole life do not suddenly become lazy. Mullin was a self made basketball star. I doubt very much he took a job at the place that made him who he is and then decided to mail it in. He may not be able to coach and he certainly could have done things differently but I doubt any of this comes out of laziness.
I don't doubt how hardworking Mullin was his whole life to become the player that he was. However coaching is a totally different animal than any job Mullin ever had as a player or front office guy. It's especially hard to become a head coach at 50+ when you have never coached a day in your life especially at a high level like a Power 5 conf. I think Mullin may be lazy in the sense that as a high level head coach you need to be on the road recruiting and that's a real year round grind. He may have not really taken seriously how much of a commitment that was and it's just too much for him. Maybe, maybe not but this next 12 months will tell us a lot more in regards to how serious he is about this job.
B Mahoney was just not a competent basketball coach (record at Manhattan foretold this). FF was an up and coming hungry young coach who self destructed. Replaced by Jarvis who thought he could run the program from the race track. Norm followed and he was just not competent enough to be a head coach (record at Queens College foretold this). Followed by Hollywood Lavin who thought he could run the program from Europe during his vacations and from NYC 5* restaurants. Mullin comes in with zero coaching experience. Excepting Mullin because he is still coaching at SJU not one of those coaches went on to let alone bigger and better things not even anything equal to the job poor job they did at St. John's (FF did decent job at NM). For those that say it is SJU that makes it impossible for coaches to do well rather than we just made poor hiring choices the track record says otherwise. I realize it seems hard to fathom you can make 6 straight post hires but never underestimate the incompetency of the powers that be at SJU to make the wrong choice. Reserve judgement on Mully until after next year. Mullin shortcoming are lack of experience and just maybe not being willing to put in the tremendous amount of work that it takes to rebuild a high level D1 program. Doesn't mean he doesn't work hard relatively speaking but maybe just not hard enough for what this position requires (after all he is 54 years old with a highly successful career already behind him). I finished my career at a job where many came late in their careers because it didn't take the tremendous amount of work their previous positions required. In short if things don't work out for Mully would hope our next coach is a young, hungry up and comer willing to basically devote that time of his life to St. John's basketball. That is all. (My longest post ever LOL).
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
Yes results have been bad, but I think he didn't help himself with the "optics". Or if George Blaney or at least some guy that looked like one of the old guys from the Muppets instead of ST Jean had been using the the dry board.
I was at that game. St. John’s shirt and hat on. Sitting in same row as his family. I was excited and happy to see Chris Mullin. I took pictures of him and sent him to my friends. Bad optics is wearing an under armor sweatshirt under you suit jacket. Not taking charge and basically not doing anything with your team as they are getting smoked by a division 2 team is not bad oPtics. Slice and Matt sat as statues. Mullin socialized. The boy tried to coach but he was overwhelmed. Not a good 1st impression
Patrick seems to be trying his best. That is all a person can do. Was a huge Knick fan. I wish him well. Mullin in year 3 is better then day 1. Still don’t think he is capable or willing to put in the work to be a good coach. I have been done with this experiment for over 2 years. Our coach should have been more prepared and more self aware or he should have kept his mouth shut and we could have a real coach.
8-35. Lost the last 9 big east games.
Here is the one thing I will argue to the death. People who are hardworking throughout their whole life do not suddenly become lazy. Mullin was a self made basketball star. I doubt very much he took a job at the place that made him who he is and then decided to mail it in. He may not be able to coach and he certainly could have done things differently but I doubt any of this comes out of laziness.
I don't doubt how hardworking Mullin was his whole life to become the player that he was. However coaching is a totally different animal than any job Mullin ever had as a player or front office guy. It's especially hard to become a head coach at 50+ when you have never coached a day in your life especially at a high level like a Power 5 conf. I think Mullin may be lazy in the sense that as a high level head coach you need to be on the road recruiting and that's a real year round grind. He may have not really taken seriously how much of a commitment that was and it's just too much for him. Maybe, maybe not but this next 12 months will tell us a lot more in regards to how serious he is about this job.
B Mahoney was just not a competent basketball coach (record at Manhattan foretold this). FF was an up and coming hungry young coach who self destructed. Replaced by Jarvis who thought he could run the program from the race track. Norm followed and he was just not competent enough to be a head coach (record at Queens College foretold this). Followed by Hollywood Lavin who thought he could run the program from Europe during his vacations and from NYC 5* restaurants. Mullin comes in with zero coaching experience. Excepting Mullin because he is still coaching at SJU not one of those coaches went on to let alone bigger and better things not even anything equal to the job poor job they did at St. John's (FF did decent job at NM). For those that say it is SJU that makes it impossible for coaches to do well rather than we just made poor hiring choices the track record says otherwise. I realize it seems hard to fathom you can make 6 straight post hires but never underestimate the incompetency of the powers that be at SJU to make the wrong choice. Reserve judgement on Mully until after next year. Mullin shortcoming are lack of experience and just maybe not being willing to put in the tremendous amount of work that it takes to rebuild a high level D1 program. Doesn't mean he doesn't work hard relatively speaking but maybe just not hard enough for what this position requires (after all he is 54 years old with a highly successful career already behind him). I finished my career at a job where many came late in their careers because it didn't take the tremendous amount of work their previous positions required. In short if things don't work out for Mully would hope our next coach is a young, hungry up and comer willing to basically devote that time of his life to St. John's basketball. That is all. (My longest post ever LOL).
And probably your best.
Again I question whether that coach everyone is looking for exists let alone ST John's being able to identify and hire him....But solid post nonetheless.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
Yes results have been bad, but I think he didn't help himself with the "optics". Or if George Blaney or at least some guy that looked like one of the old guys from the Muppets instead of ST Jean had been using the the dry board.
I was at that game. St. John’s shirt and hat on. Sitting in same row as his family. I was excited and happy to see Chris Mullin. I took pictures of him and sent him to my friends. Bad optics is wearing an under armor sweatshirt under you suit jacket. Not taking charge and basically not doing anything with your team as they are getting smoked by a division 2 team is not bad oPtics. Slice and Matt sat as statues. Mullin socialized. The boy tried to coach but he was overwhelmed. Not a good 1st impression
Patrick seems to be trying his best. That is all a person can do. Was a huge Knick fan. I wish him well. Mullin in year 3 is better then day 1. Still don’t think he is capable or willing to put in the work to be a good coach. I have been done with this experiment for over 2 years. Our coach should have been more prepared and more self aware or he should have kept his mouth shut and we could have a real coach.
8-35. Lost the last 9 big east games.
Here is the one thing I will argue to the death. People who are hardworking throughout their whole life do not suddenly become lazy. Mullin was a self made basketball star. I doubt very much he took a job at the place that made him who he is and then decided to mail it in. He may not be able to coach and he certainly could have done things differently but I doubt any of this comes out of laziness.
I don't doubt how hardworking Mullin was his whole life to become the player that he was. However coaching is a totally different animal than any job Mullin ever had as a player or front office guy. It's especially hard to become a head coach at 50+ when you have never coached a day in your life especially at a high level like a Power 5 conf. I think Mullin may be lazy in the sense that as a high level head coach you need to be on the road recruiting and that's a real year round grind. He may have not really taken seriously how much of a commitment that was and it's just too much for him. Maybe, maybe not but this next 12 months will tell us a lot more in regards to how serious he is about this job.
B Mahoney was just not a competent basketball coach (record at Manhattan foretold this). FF was an up and coming hungry young coach who self destructed. Replaced by Jarvis who thought he could run the program from the race track. Norm followed and he was just not competent enough to be a head coach (record at Queens College foretold this). Followed by Hollywood Lavin who thought he could run the program from Europe during his vacations and from NYC 5* restaurants. Mullin comes in with zero coaching experience. Excepting Mullin because he is still coaching at SJU not one of those coaches went on to let alone bigger and better things not even anything equal to the job poor job they did at St. John's (FF did decent job at NM). For those that say it is SJU that makes it impossible for coaches to do well rather than we just made poor hiring choices the track record says otherwise. I realize it seems hard to fathom you can make 6 straight post hires but never underestimate the incompetency of the powers that be at SJU to make the wrong choice. Reserve judgement on Mully until after next year. Mullin shortcoming are lack of experience and just maybe not being willing to put in the tremendous amount of work that it takes to rebuild a high level D1 program. Doesn't mean he doesn't work hard relatively speaking but maybe just not hard enough for what this position requires (after all he is 54 years old with a highly successful career already behind him). I finished my career at a job where many came late in their careers because it didn't take the tremendous amount of work their previous positions required. In short if things don't work out for Mully would hope our next coach is a young, hungry up and comer willing to basically devote that time of his life to St. John's basketball. That is all. (My longest post ever LOL).
St.John’s conference wins in coach’s 3rd season:
Brian Mahoney - 7
Fran Fraschilla - 13 (2nd season)
Mike Jarvis - 8
Norm Roberts - 7
Steve Lavin - 7
Chris Mullin - 0
The head coach with the lowest conference win total outside of Mullin was Norm Roberts. By comparison, Norm was a better coach. Everyone should think about that when they suggest Mullin be given more time.
And you know, if Jarvis wasn’t fired, for the 2004-2005 season he would have had this line up:
Ingram - PG
Hill - SG
Epperson - SF
Hosley - SF/PF
Hamilton - C
Not imposing, but Hosley would have been a 2nd team all BE. For all the talk of him not being interested in recruiting, the guy brought in better talent than Mullin.
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St.John’s conference wins in coach’s 3rd season:
Steve Lavin - 7
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
With kids now you can't hit and can barely yell. The new thing is "positive reinforcement" at least that is what my wife keeps telling me when I yell. Thought I might try it in every facet of my life to see if it works.
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
To get confidence back, for recruiting, Need wins to turn trajectory around and for optics.
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
Thinking that every game isn't a must win game is a loser's mentality. It's people like you thinking like that that have caused the decline of this program.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Obviously the results suck, but Mullin was getting flak on these boards in first season when was supposed to be in Honeymoon phase. Don't you think if he would have acted more ''coachy" from the beginning it might have delayed some of the vitriol?
That and not losing to Aquinas by 33
Yes results have been bad, but I think he didn't help himself with the "optics". Or if George Blaney or at least some guy that looked like one of the old guys from the Muppets instead of ST Jean had been using the the dry board.
I was at that game. St. John’s shirt and hat on. Sitting in same row as his family. I was excited and happy to see Chris Mullin. I took pictures of him and sent him to my friends. Bad optics is wearing an under armor sweatshirt under you suit jacket. Not taking charge and basically not doing anything with your team as they are getting smoked by a division 2 team is not bad oPtics. Slice and Matt sat as statues. Mullin socialized. The boy tried to coach but he was overwhelmed. Not a good 1st impression
Patrick seems to be trying his best. That is all a person can do. Was a huge Knick fan. I wish him well. Mullin in year 3 is better then day 1. Still don’t think he is capable or willing to put in the work to be a good coach. I have been done with this experiment for over 2 years. Our coach should have been more prepared and more self aware or he should have kept his mouth shut and we could have a real coach.
8-35. Lost the last 9 big east games.
Here is the one thing I will argue to the death. People who are hardworking throughout their whole life do not suddenly become lazy. Mullin was a self made basketball star. I doubt very much he took a job at the place that made him who he is and then decided to mail it in. He may not be able to coach and he certainly could have done things differently but I doubt any of this comes out of laziness.
Not lazy. Maybe just The Peter Principle at work.
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
To get confidence back, for recruiting, Need wins to turn trajectory around and for optics.
I guess 2-16 better than 1-17 or 0-18 for some. Makes no difference to me.
Like to see Ponds hit some jumpers, Clark rebound, Simon keep improving and Trimble be more involved. Mix things up not just hang out behind 3 point line.
To me the above much more important than winning 2 games as opposed to 1.
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
To get confidence back, for recruiting, Need wins to turn trajectory around and for optics.
I guess 2-16 better than 1-17 or 0-18 for some. Makes no difference to me.
Like to see Ponds hit some jumpers, Clark rebound, Simon keep improving and Trimble be more involved. Mix things up not just hang out behind 3 point line.
To me the above much more important than winning 2 games as opposed to 1.
Trimble's growing on me.
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
To get confidence back, for recruiting, Need wins to turn trajectory around and for optics.
I guess 2-16 better than 1-17 or 0-18 for some. Makes no difference to me.
Like to see Ponds hit some jumpers, Clark rebound, Simon keep improving and Trimble be more involved. Mix things up not just hang out behind 3 point line.
To me the above much more important than winning 2 games as opposed to 1.
Trimble's growing on me.
Yup, he should get some of Ahmed's minutes
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
To get confidence back, for recruiting, Need wins to turn trajectory around and for optics.
I guess 2-16 better than 1-17 or 0-18 for some. Makes no difference to me.
Like to see Ponds hit some jumpers, Clark rebound, Simon keep improving and Trimble be more involved. Mix things up not just hang out behind 3 point line.
To me the above much more important than winning 2 games as opposed to 1.
Trimble's growing on me.
He's taken huge steps forward over the past two weeks. I've always seen why Mullin likes him, his shots are finally falling as he's adjusted to the pace. You can tell that there's talent there, like all freshmen he needed time, but he's getting more comfortable.
Tomorrow is going to be a war, I can't wait.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
Patrick looks impressive. I love Patrick. Hate Georgetown
This is incredibly premature. He narrowly beat us and DePaul and had the easiest non-conference schedule in d-1. He has arguably more talent than us and definitely has more quality players. Imagine if Mullin started of with a monster like Govan and a handful of juniors and seniors?
I understand that you are pot committed. But these excuses are getting old.
The point of my post is no one has any clue at this point either way. There were people who literally are judging Ewing based on a few minutes of viewing him in a huddle and on the sideline and saying he seems to be more prepared than Mullin. Just nonsense.
I am a Mullin guy. If you are going to look / act detached during TO's and in the huddle and you are unsuccessful as he has been it just adds to the criticism. Based of his won / loss record it is a fair criticism as is most anything when you lose this much.
No idea how things work at with Ewing but by looking more engaged he probably will buy himself more time than Mullin has.
Whatever that is just nonsense. Base it on his shoe color. You don't attend practices, huddles, you have zero connection to Georgetown and they have done nothing this year yet you want to say these stupid things. I don't care.
You really are an annoying little guy. You argue both sides of every point.
There has been probably 1,000 posts about Mullin's sideline demeanor, dry board, sitting on tables, etc on these boards. Where both you and I are posting. None of what is said on these boards has any effect whatsoever on Chris Mullin in real life. People on these boards criticize Mullin for many things. Most unfortunately deserved at this point. If he had looked more involved it would have lessened the criticisms ON THESE BOARDS. That is a fact.
Now go ahead and tell me that no one could know anything until it actually happens.
You are like a bad penny. The fact you feel the need to respond to every post is remarkable.
You are basically Baldi in an angry off putting way. You really come on here to argue with everyone. You bash people complaining about Mullin and defending Mullin. You really take no sides or have any agenda except being a troll. You were tolerable back in the day but now you are just an angry little guy. Like an old guy yelling at kids playing in the park to be quiet.
He's an ass clown. Everyone has their rivals on this site, but he's universally detested by all.
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
To get confidence back, for recruiting, Need wins to turn trajectory around and for optics.
I guess 2-16 better than 1-17 or 0-18 for some. Makes no difference to me.
Like to see Ponds hit some jumpers, Clark rebound, Simon keep improving and Trimble be more involved. Mix things up not just hang out behind 3 point line.
To me the above much more important than winning 2 games as opposed to 1.
Trimble's growing on me.
He's the only one that plays a position. We need less Swiss Army knives and more structure.
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
To get confidence back, for recruiting, Need wins to turn trajectory around and for optics.
I guess 2-16 better than 1-17 or 0-18 for some. Makes no difference to me.
Like to see Ponds hit some jumpers, Clark rebound, Simon keep improving and Trimble be more involved. Mix things up not just hang out behind 3 point line.
To me the above much more important than winning 2 games as opposed to 1.
Trimble's growing on me.
Me too but still hangs out too much behind line. 43 of 49 shots have been 3's
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And probably your best.
To be fair he's set the bar pretty low.
Foady - is Georgetown a must win?
For what?
To get confidence back, for recruiting, Need wins to turn trajectory around and for optics.
I guess 2-16 better than 1-17 or 0-18 for some. Makes no difference to me.
Like to see Ponds hit some jumpers, Clark rebound, Simon keep improving and Trimble be more involved. Mix things up not just hang out behind 3 point line.
To me the above much more important than winning 2 games as opposed to 1.
Trimble's growing on me.
Me too but still hangs out too much behind line. 43 of 49 shots have been 3's
I agree but I wouldn't be too surprised if that's just what he's been told to do. I'm looking forward to see how he progresses, hope he hangs around.
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I think I see why people think Patrick Ewing is going to be a great hire, if it weren't for his motivation Georgetown may have lost by 50 tonight.
I think what people said/think is, he's not as illogical a hire as Mullin because he has previous coaching experience, something many of us like in our coaches. And he started off better than Mullin by constructing a well rounded and experienced staff, given that he had never coached at the college level before, something you can not say about a staff that included Greg St. Jean. How that hire pans out, and even the Mullin hire though there's a bigger body of evidence to work with, is still TBD.
Ewing paid his dues. He had respect for the craft. Mullin did not. Somehow Mullin gets credit for being the GM of the Warriors and the Kings despite accomplishing nothing there.
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Trimble has been better
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Trimble has been better
He needs to get Ahmed's mins. He is awful
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Pinds out of control
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Pinds out of control
They all are.
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Simon looks like Mase Jr
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LOL @ Ahmed
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Clark 1 rebound
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Trimble 3 rebounds
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Ahmed 1 rebound
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Nice backdoor pass
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I like when st Jean and Richmond slap themselves in head. Hahaha.
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Two awful teams so far setting a new standard for poor out of control play. We have been having a lot of good second halfs and hopefully this will be one of those days.
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Too many turnovers. Simon passes the ball out of bounds or off the backboard
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Clark 1 rebound
He’s Ron M’Vouika Part 2. Same player.
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Teams results are the same as Ron’s team. You could be onto something
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Teams results are the same as Ron’s team. You could be onto something
Same coach.
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Teams results are the same as Ron’s team. You could be onto something
Same coach.
would say these teams are setting basketball back 50 years but this isn't basketball. I am watching a sh$t show.
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Wait until next year. We just need a x and o guy to help out. Rome wasn’t built in a day
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Trimble starts 2nd half over Ahmed
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Think that is the first time I've seen Clark jump, missed dunk
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Need some separation here
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Ponds needs to give that up on the break
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Yep. Maybe he sees guy too far under basket knowing it’s a charge, but that’s type of play he has to give up. He has to be a pg to have any chance to get To nba
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Need to get Ponds a minute rest
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Need to get Ponds a minute rest
Playing with players. Has taken 0 timeouts
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Ahmeds shot selection and decisionmaking are horrifying
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Clark 4 rebounds! A miracle
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I like way Mullin has coached game. He got most out of Trimble and put Ahmed on bench. If they can get a 8-10 point lead, could be a bunch of mix and matching rest of way, to get a guy a breather in between time outs. Fouls starting to mount up.
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Not only don't we get any offensive rebounds under or near the basket we don't even get any long O rebs because our guys are just so far from the basket when a shot goes up. It really is astounding.
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Where's Amar?
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I like way Mullin has coached game. He got most out of Trimble and put Ahmed on bench. If they can get a 8-10 point lead, could be a bunch of mix and matching rest of way, to get a guy a breather in between time outs. Fouls starting to mount up.
Not looking to Amar. But he may have to play. Wish he got a minute or two in first half
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I bet St Johns, wtf was I thinking
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I like way Mullin has coached game. He got most out of Trimble and put Ahmed on bench. If they can get a 8-10 point lead, could be a bunch of mix and matching rest of way, to get a guy a breather in between time outs. Fouls starting to mount up.
Did you fall down and hit your head and wake up we are sju? Yes we do look well coached and game has been well played. Think what you may have meant is you liked that one particular move Mullin made.
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In a game like this, it only takes one move to get a victory. Same as a defeat but so far he’s made the right call.
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I like way Mullin has coached game. He got most out of Trimble and put Ahmed on bench. If they can get a 8-10 point lead, could be a bunch of mix and matching rest of way, to get a guy a breather in between time outs. Fouls starting to mount up.
Not looking to Amar. But he may have to play. Wish he got a minute or two in first half
Let’s hope aa don’t play.
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In a game like this, it only takes one move to get a victory. Same as a defeat but so far he’s made the right call.
If they were well coached it wouldn't be a "game like this".
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How is he that open?
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Nut cracking time! My are hurting already!
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Back to back missed 3s by Clark(who just came back in the game) and Ahmed killed any momentum
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lets get this freaking w
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Bashir Ahmed needs to stop playing basketball
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Back to back missed 3s by Clark(who just came back in the game) and Ahmed killed any momentum
Two good looks. First thing I saw when I turned the game on. And gtown hit both their shots. Havnt seen any of the game up until then but there nothing mullin can do about that.
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So here it is again. SJU has a 56-52 lead and they are 0-4 from the field since then with two fts and Georgetown has hit 4 shots including a 3. Now they are down 3.
0-8....
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Back to back missed 3s by Clark(who just came back in the game) and Ahmed killed any momentum
Two good looks. First thing I saw when I turned the game on. And gtown hit both their shots. Havnt seen any of the game up until then but there nothing mullin can do about that.
Lark just got back in the game after he limped off, then hoist a brick first time he touches ball
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Simon to the free throw line, God help the rim
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Simon to the free throw line, God help the rim
That was a great play though
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Why the flop Owens, why
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Fouling the 3 point shooter.
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Trimble brutal
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That fouls right there is St. John’s Basketball
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This team is depressing to watch
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Mullin needs to get Clark an open look from 3. He's feeling it.
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Maybe Mullin can read the kids a fairy tale during the TO
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That fouls right there is St. John’s Basketball
At least we are playing OUR game.
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Stupidity all around by Clark
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Clark with a bad, rushed shot and a worse foul.
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0-8.
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Geez that was brutal. Off balance 3 with 20 on the shot clock, then a foul with 1:13 left when you could have played D which fouled out the only 3 point shooter
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This team is horrible. #FireMullin
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They need a quick 2 here if they get the ball back. A 2 for 1 here. Let's see what Mullin does.
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LOL Georgetown trying so hard to give us this game and we don't want it.
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LOL Georgetown trying so hard to give us this game and we don't want it.
Yeah. Point shaving
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Great job by Simon and Ahmed
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Ponds missing the front end of that 1 on 1 was painful.
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LOL Georgetown trying so hard to give us this game and we don't want it.
Sad but true.
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Put in Amar to foul
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He is not 85 % when it counts
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Georgetown may actually lose this game.....or is it SJU may win it....
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Ponds missing the front end of that 1 on 1 was painful.
This team just doesn't have winners on it. Same situation vs Creighton and they miss the front end of a 1 and 1. One of the worst teams I've ever watched including the 2015 team, and every team in the Norm era.
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That was not a foul
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Put in Amar to foul
He would miss that too
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2 guys fouled out already now Owens his fourth which is why I called for Amar to foul!
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I'd put the odds at 95% that Gtown hits the game winner here.
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I am sick. Hurt my entire body when he hit that shot
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Ponds big time....await the stupid foul
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Ponds missing the front end of that 1 on 1 was painful.
This team just doesn't have winners on it. Same situation vs Creighton and they miss the front end of a 1 and 1. One of the worst teams I've ever watched including the 2015 team, and every team in the Norm era.
Yeah they are a snake bitten bunch for sure.
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I'd put the odds at 95% that Gtown hits the game winner here.
+1
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jump ball actually hurts the clock probably runs out guy had nowhere to go
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Yakwe with good D there.
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Do not foul
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Let's play 5 more.
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"St John's Georgetown like the old days"............ we wish.
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What a tough shot and make by Ponds.
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This f*ckin team!!! Just lay it in Simon!!!!!
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What a tough shot and make by Ponds.
Big time hoop
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Ponds playing street ball.
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Another FT miss.
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Another FT miss.
Shocking....
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Yakwe basket for the Hoyas
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Amar wins it on a 3 off the glass
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That looked like a confused staff right there
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Nobody f'ing listens when I said put Amar in to foul at end of regulation when Owens got his fourth. Now AliB in crunch time. Wake up people!
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That looked like a confused staff right there
+1
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I'm not sure which of these teams leads the nation in idiot plays
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Ponds has to pull up for short jumper...
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Amar with the assist!
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Amar with the assist!
He wanted to shoot
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Ponds playing a heckuva floor game late today.
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Amar will now proceed to foul a 3pt shooter to give them a 4 pt play.
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assist Amar, Ahmed big time
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Amar with the assist!
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Best of his career
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Amar with the assist!
Great basketball instincts not to shoot!
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Amar with the assist!
Great basketball instincts not to shoot!
Exactly...
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Amar will now proceed to foul a 3pt shooter to give them a 4 pt play.
Could happen
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Yakwe with good D and timely rebounding down the stretch.
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Amar will now proceed to foul a 3pt shooter to give them a 4 pt play.
I was kinda close.
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Spoke too soon.
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Can’t make this shit up
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unf...ing believable
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Stupid is as stupid does.
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Have to be the dumbest team in sports
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Have to be the dumbest team in sports
Sports history
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The one time we close out on a 3 pt shooter is the wrong time
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Worst team ever.......
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Pathetic.
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Why no foul. Fckn imbecile of a team
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FIRE MULLIN
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super choke
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At least we get five more minutes of Amar
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I give up....
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Ponds had a ton of room there. Could've gotten a much better shot off.
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We the Cleveland Browns of college basketball
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Amar lol
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That's definitely not the shot we wanted....
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Game time. Warm up the short bus
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Game over...0-8...
Unfreakingbelievable....
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I've never seen a team foul a 3 pt shooter 3 times in a game.... pathetic.
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It’s time for a culture change. Mullin has to be fired. Enough is enough
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No more fouls. End this game
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Why is Ponds passing the ball? Gotta want it
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Mullin is such a horrible coach, they have no idea how to finish games
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Lol.. Dumbest team in America.
Why not foul up 3 with seconds left? Just a thought?
How many times are you going to foul 3-point shooters?
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Wait till next year! Boubocar will lead us to the promised land!
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People still actually think Mullin deserves another year? This is the most embarrassing team I've ever watched in my life in any sport at any level, and it's not even the players fault.
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It’s time for a culture change. Mullin has to be fired. Enough is enough
Nah! You haven't heard it's too soon to do so?
I'll say it again.... We won 6 games in a MUCH better Big East with only 6 players (5 being freshmen), and no point guard and only one reliable outside shooter.
We'll be lucky to win half of that this season.
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Mullin looks stressed. First time I noticed it
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
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Just need to keep scratching and clawing and with any luck we can finish 1-17 in BE and we can all be happy.
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Didn’t think Amar fouled. Thought he played good defense
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Look at Goof lol
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
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Anybody notice Goff after that foul by Ponds....man feel for him...
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Look at Goof lol
Some of you guys sound like you are not exactly trusting the process.
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Swept by a Georgetown team that just lost to Villanova by half a million....
Never would have guessed it....
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I trust the process of Mullin getting let go. Only process I will believe in
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I’m so defeated right now.
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Look at Goof lol
Some of you guys sound like you are not exactly trusting the process.
Rome wasn’t built in a day
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Feel really bad for them. They play hard. Undermanned and not enough shooters. Could possibly be best 0-18 team ever. Sadly I am serious with that.
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I’m so defeated right now.
Only thing I am mad at is it took an extra 35 minutes.
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No one is best 0-18 team.
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Nice effort. I think they beat Depaul
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Feel really bad for them. They play hard. Undermanned and not enough shooters. Could possibly be best 0-18 team ever. Sadly I am serious with that.
That is because 0-18 teams suck. This team has talent
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Best 0-8 team ever!
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No one is best 0-18 team.
In every game. Lovett thing never happens we would have won 3 or 4 of these
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Maybe St Johns can win the Big East tournament
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Best 0-8 team ever!
Exactly have only really had 2 bad games. One and a half really.
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
Yep.
I'll add.... I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short. He just doesn't seem like he'll be able to maximize the team's potential. They'll play below their ceiling, and it'll eventually drive folks more nuts than they are now.
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If we do go 0-18 anyone really think all the recruits and current players that one would figure to return actually stay on board for next year if Mullin stays? These kids deserve competent coaching.
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
Yep.
I'll add.... I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short. He just doesn't seem like he'll be able to maximize the team's potential. They'll play below their ceiling, and it'll eventually drive folks more nuts than they are now.
Yep 2 Gold Medals, NBA all-star, All American, millionaire but just keeps falling short. Not sure how he lives with himself.
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Ponds deserves better
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No one is best 0-18 team.
In every game. Lovett thing never happens we would have won 3 or 4 of these
Injuries happen to everyone. He can’t coach and went into season with 7 guys. The fact that he thought he can win that way shows he’s incapable of knowing how to win year over year. This is not nba, it’s always year over year. Mullin doesn’t know that which is y, they are 0-8 in conference.
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If we do go 0-18 anyone really think all the recruits and current players that one would figure to return actually stay on board for next year if Mullin stays? These kids deserve competent coaching.
Yeah 1-17 or 2-16 much better.
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
Yep.
I'll add.... I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short. He just doesn't seem like he'll be able to maximize the team's potential. They'll play below their ceiling, and it'll eventually drive folks more nuts than they are now.
Yep 2 Gold Medals, NBA all-star, All American, millionaire but just keeps falling short. Not sure how he lives with himself.
And how many wins do those things give us? The same amount of BE wins that we have a big fat zero. We talkin bout his coaching!
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Ponds deserves better
Love his game but he did choke FTs
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If we do go 0-18 anyone really think all the recruits and current players that one would figure to return actually stay on board for next year if Mullin stays? These kids deserve competent coaching.
If that happens, we're gonna be in serious trouble. Some people are fooling themselves, if they surmise there won't be repercussions to winning one conference game or going 0-fer.
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Just a bad team. I said it many times this team doesn't know how to win.0-10 against real teams 10-0 against the scrubs. Mullin needs to go asap. We cannot take another year like this
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
Yep.
I'll add.... I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short. He just doesn't seem like he'll be able to maximize the team's potential. They'll play below their ceiling, and it'll eventually drive folks more nuts than they are now.
Yep 2 Gold Medals, NBA all-star, All American, millionaire but just keeps falling short. Not sure how he lives with himself.
And how many wins do those things give us? The same amount of BE wins that we have a big fat zero. We talkin bout his coaching!
The quote was Mullin always falls short. Which is ridiculous.
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
Yep.
I'll add.... I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short. He just doesn't seem like he'll be able to maximize the team's potential. They'll play below their ceiling, and it'll eventually drive folks more nuts than they are now.
Yep 2 Gold Medals, NBA all-star, All American, millionaire but just keeps falling short. Not sure how he lives with himself.
And how many wins do those things give us? The same amount of BE wins that we have a big fat zero. We talkin bout his coaching!
I'm paying him no mind. I'm sure most sane people knew what I meant.
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
Yep.
I'll add.... I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short. He just doesn't seem like he'll be able to maximize the team's potential. They'll play below their ceiling, and it'll eventually drive folks more nuts than they are now.
Yep 2 Gold Medals, NBA all-star, All American, millionaire but just keeps falling short. Not sure how he lives with himself.
And how many wins do those things give us? The same amount of BE wins that we have a big fat zero. We talkin bout his coaching!
The quote was Mullin always falls short. Which is ridiculous.
He was referring to his coaching of this team, read it again.
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
Yep.
I'll add.... I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short. He just doesn't seem like he'll be able to maximize the team's potential. They'll play below their ceiling, and it'll eventually drive folks more nuts than they are now.
Yep 2 Gold Medals, NBA all-star, All American, millionaire but just keeps falling short. Not sure how he lives with himself.
His last gold med happened when I was in 8th grade. This is my 17th year teaching 8th grade.
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Goff really should do something. Doing a Q & A with fans isn't going to cut it. This team is a joke and it falls on coaching. Amar and Yakwe have shown absolutely no development and the play calling and game management is close to some of the worst in college basketball. Get rid of this incompetent staff. Richmond and Matt A bring nothing to game-time decision making. Its sad that during timeouts you look at our bench and some 26-year old is doing all the heavy lifting while Mullin stands there looking lost like a dope.
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THis game literally game me a headache and I never get headaches. Both teams were horrid but we have the edge in stupidity.
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Team lost in 2 ot's on the road. Team will probably lose all but 1 or 2 games rest of the season. What is the point of bitching for next 9 games. Especially when they played hard and lost this kind of game. If this was a bubble team and we lost this game I can understand bitching. But at this point wouldn't you just want them to get a win since they play for your favorite team and play hard. If the team stopped playing hard I can understand but whining and complaining after this game you guys just look like babies.
Mullin will be here next year. Nothing that happens rest of this year is going to change that. Sorry.
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Goff really should do something. Doing a Q & A with fans isn't going to cut it. This team is a joke and it falls on coaching. Amar and Yakwe have shown absolutely no development and the play calling and game management is close to some of the worst in college basketball. Get rid of this incompetent staff. Richmond and Matt A bring nothing to game-time decision making. Its sad that during timeouts you look at our bench and some 26-year old is doing all the heavy lifting while Mullin stands there looking lost like a dope.
Couldn’t agree more. Sju calls timeout in a tight game and Mullin just standing there in huddle like he’s a player.
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Team lost in 2 ot's on the road. Team will probably lose all but 1 or 2 games rest of the season. What is the point of bitching for next 9 games. Especially when they played hard and lost this kind of game. If this was a bubble team and we lost this game I can understand bitching. But at this point wouldn't you just want them to get a win since they play for your favorite team and play hard. If the team stopped playing hard I can understand but whining and complaining after this game you guys just look like babies.
Mullin will be here next year. Nothing that happens rest of this year is going to change that. Sorry.
I beg to differ. I wouldn't be shocked if he stepped down. He's just embarrassing himself at this point. I actually feel kind of bad for him that he is in way over his head.
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The Clyde Drexler-Houston, worst case scenario, has come to fruition...
Congrats guys..
He atleast quit
Yep.
I'll add.... I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short. He just doesn't seem like he'll be able to maximize the team's potential. They'll play below their ceiling, and it'll eventually drive folks more nuts than they are now.
Yep 2 Gold Medals, NBA all-star, All American, millionaire but just keeps falling short. Not sure how he lives with himself.
And how many wins do those things give us? The same amount of BE wins that we have a big fat zero. We talkin bout his coaching!
The quote was Mullin always falls short. Which is ridiculous.
He was referring to his coaching of this team, read it again.
"I think Mullin will always find a way to fall short".
Oh now I see.
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Team lost in 2 ot's on the road. Team will probably lose all but 1 or 2 games rest of the season. What is the point of bitching for next 9 games. Especially when they played hard and lost this kind of game. If this was a bubble team and we lost this game I can understand bitching. But at this point wouldn't you just want them to get a win since they play for your favorite team and play hard. If the team stopped playing hard I can understand but whining and complaining after this game you guys just look like babies.
Mullin will be here next year. Nothing that happens rest of this year is going to change that. Sorry.
Look we all pissed off right now and you weren't posting during the game now you come on flaming the board. Someimes you need to know when to STFU!
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If Ponds and Yakwe hit their foul shots and if they don't foul on 3 consecutive 3 point shot attempts, St. John's wins this game..
Players are no great shakes either.. A very dumb group.
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
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Team lost in 2 ot's on the road. Team will probably lose all but 1 or 2 games rest of the season. What is the point of bitching for next 9 games. Especially when they played hard and lost this kind of game. If this was a bubble team and we lost this game I can understand bitching. But at this point wouldn't you just want them to get a win since they play for your favorite team and play hard. If the team stopped playing hard I can understand but whining and complaining after this game you guys just look like babies.
Mullin will be here next year. Nothing that happens rest of this year is going to change that. Sorry.
Look we all pissed off right now and you weren't posting during the game now you come on flaming the board. Someimes you need to know when to STFU!
+100
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
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Team lost in 2 ot's on the road. Team will probably lose all but 1 or 2 games rest of the season. What is the point of bitching for next 9 games. Especially when they played hard and lost this kind of game. If this was a bubble team and we lost this game I can understand bitching. But at this point wouldn't you just want them to get a win since they play for your favorite team and play hard. If the team stopped playing hard I can understand but whining and complaining after this game you guys just look like babies.
Mullin will be here next year. Nothing that happens rest of this year is going to change that. Sorry.
Look we all pissed off right now and you weren't posting during the game now you come on flaming the board. Someimes you need to know when to STFU!
Flaming the board? Was a tough game, they lost, team is not good. Are you old ladies really going to post the same nonsense for the rest of the season?
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
Truth.
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
Yes, I have.
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
Yes, I have.
Didnt mean it to be snobby. You should understand my point then.
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
Yes, I have.
Didnt mean it to be snobby. You should understand my point then.
It's cool. I do understand your point, but this kinda stuff has been going on for three seasons. It's a pattern.
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
Yes, I have.
Didnt mean it to be snobby. You should understand my point then.
Saying what Mase that Mullin did not tell them to keep fouling three point shooters and he didn't draw up the Clark off balance three or Amar's three? Or tell Owens to take 2 of last 3 shots in 1st OT? I get your point. Team being dumb falls ultimately on the coach but team is not that good and some of these guys would still be dumb if you put them on Duke. Duke would not recruit them which is the big difference.
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
Yes, I have.
Didnt mean it to be snobby. You should understand my point then.
Saying what Mase that Mullin did not tell them to keep fouling three point shooters and he didn't draw up the Clark off balance three or Amar's three? Or tell Owens to take 2 of last 3 shots in 1st OT? I get your point. Team being dumb falls ultimately on the coach but team is not that good and some of these guys would still be dumb if you put them on Duke. Duke would not recruit them which is the big difference.
If that's your argument he is the one who put this team together, so it anyway you slice it (no pun intended) it's his fault.
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
Yes, I have.
Didnt mean it to be snobby. You should understand my point then.
Saying what Mase that Mullin did not tell them to keep fouling three point shooters and he didn't draw up the Clark off balance three or Amar's three? Or tell Owens to take 2 of last 3 shots in 1st OT? I get your point. Team being dumb falls ultimately on the coach but team is not that good and some of these guys would still be dumb if you put them on Duke. Duke would not recruit them which is the big difference.
If that's your argument he is the one who put this team together, so it anyway you slice it (no pun intended) it's his fault.
Oh agreed. And the fact that they only have 8 guys, 5 of which should not play is also on Mullin. In fact I am starting to think Ahmed should not play. But then again maybe these are the only kind of players we can get.
Oh and not my argument just deciphering what I think Mase was saying
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
Yes, I have.
Didnt mean it to be snobby. You should understand my point then.
Saying what Mase that Mullin did not tell them to keep fouling three point shooters and he didn't draw up the Clark off balance three or Amar's three? Or tell Owens to take 2 of last 3 shots in 1st OT? I get your point. Team being dumb falls ultimately on the coach but team is not that good and some of these guys would still be dumb if you put them on Duke. Duke would not recruit them which is the big difference.
Man im pretty sure you are agreeing with me but you got me confused. What do you expect from a teenage goldberg kid?
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Only saw the last five minutes of regulation and 2 ot's. . It all comes back to it being CM's team and his players but damn, the players did their best not to win that one. Missed shots. Dumb fouls. And in all honesty, some goddamn bad breaks.
Shamorie is so damn good. There is only one way this gets worse and that is him not being here as a junior.
An extension of their coach.
I pointed to that MJ. But that only goes so far. You coach before?
Yes, I have.
Didnt mean it to be snobby. You should understand my point then.
Saying what Mase that Mullin did not tell them to keep fouling three point shooters and he didn't draw up the Clark off balance three or Amar's three? Or tell Owens to take 2 of last 3 shots in 1st OT? I get your point. Team being dumb falls ultimately on the coach but team is not that good and some of these guys would still be dumb if you put them on Duke. Duke would not recruit them which is the big difference.
Man im pretty sure you are agreeing with me but you got me confused. What do you expect from a teenage goldberg kid?
Agreeing and I like the Goldbergs
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Lovett's tweet like he's part of team... what a joke...
https://twitter.com/Marcus_LoVett/status/954802273623867399
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Lovett's tweet like he's part of team... what a joke...
https://twitter.com/Marcus_LoVett/status/954802273623867399
He isn’t there? Right?
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Are you old ladies really going to post the same nonsense for the rest of the season?
Concur.
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Are you old ladies really going to post the same nonsense for the rest of the season?
Concur.
Which is exactly what you suck ups do
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Are you old ladies really going to post the same nonsense for the rest of the season?
Concur.
Which is exactly what you suck ups do
If you want to be regarded as the worst poster on this board you'll have to try harder. Yes you're stupid and yes you're boring, but unfortunately you lack the sheer awfulness of several of the other contenders. The good news is that if Baldi dies and you really apply yourself you can achieve your goal.
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If the brackets were seeded by idiocy, St. John’s would be seeded first.
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Are you old ladies really going to post the same nonsense for the rest of the season?
Concur.
Which is exactly what you suck ups do
If you want to be regarded as the worst poster on this board you'll have to try harder. Yes you're stupid and yes you're boring, but unfortunately you lack the sheer awfulness of several of the other contenders. The good news is that if Baldi dies and you really apply yourself you can achieve your goal.
Foad you really need to let that young woman go that you have secluded in the well in your basement. I realize it has been a cold winter but you really don't need another human skin overcoat.
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Are you old ladies really going to post the same nonsense for the rest of the season?
Concur.
Which is exactly what you suck ups do
If you want to be regarded as the worst poster on this board you'll have to try harder. Yes you're stupid and yes you're boring, but unfortunately you lack the sheer awfulness of several of the other contenders. The good news is that if Baldi dies and you really apply yourself you can achieve your goal.
Foad you really need to let that young woman go that you have secluded in the well in your basement. I realize it has been a cold winter but you really don't need another human skin overcoat.
"You can never have too many overcoats stupid. You can always take one off but if you don't have an extra you can't put one on."
-- Ed Gein
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post game quotes
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/012018aaa.html
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/01/st-johns-shut-down-by-hoyas-in-double.html
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BTW-You have to hand it to Tarik Turner. I loved the stuff during the broadcast about how Ewing and Mullin represent what the BE is about on how the BE love's this. Meanwhile you have two programs going nowhere, in a half empty building with ZERO buzz, each time trying to hand the other team the game...
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
Where are you on all of this? You stayed faithful to Norm until pretty late from what I remember.
You also had no tolerance for Realfan type posts that are all the rage today.
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
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If Ponds and Yakwe hit their foul shots and if they don't foul on 3 consecutive 3 point shot attempts, St. John's wins this game..
Players are no great shakes either.. A very dumb group.
+1 Unbelievable and if they won the BS about firing Mullin quiets down and he is on his way to being a genius :laugh:
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
Where are you on all of this? You stayed faithful to Norm until pretty late from what I remember.
You also had no tolerance for Realfan type posts that are all the rage today.
Yeah I have Norm slack for probably 4 years and maybe turned in his second to last year to insanely against Norm.
Year one with Mullin I was beyond pissed for reasons you know. Plus I expect more from Mullin than I did from Norm especially in the looking like they are coaching department. I'm not happy now and during games I freak out sometimes texting with my friends or sitting with them but I just dont post negative stuff too incessantly because I do really hope Mullin turns it around and he hasn't sat on the scorers table and looks more engaged than the first year even though I would like him to be a lot more engaged and go to more local hs games like he said he was going to do in his original press conference. So Doesn't matter if I think he will turn it around or not. I hope he does. Last year wasn't great but it wasn't horrible either. I do want a shakeup on his staff but it is what it is. If he doesn't do it the results good or bad rest with him anyway
Too much money invested in him and his staff current and former and I guess since I work in finance I just see the reality of it that he isn't going anywhere so we really need to pray next year its the turnaround year.
So to cut through the stuff I just wrote I'm certainly not happy but I'm hoping all the players and recruits are back next year and hoping that's Mullin's year to breakthrough because we really need this to happen
If we dont see major progress after next year then I'll end up complaining more
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
Where are you on all of this? You stayed faithful to Norm until pretty late from what I remember.
You also had no tolerance for Realfan type posts that are all the rage today.
As far as all the negative posts all the time it doesn't get to me like it used too. If someone is inventing their own facts that will piss me off but other than that back then in the BEB says I was in my 30's and now I'm 47 so I guess age has mellowed me out a little too so I dont let stuff like that bother me too much
Plus by now I have met a lot of the posters and friends with a lot of them so it's a lot different reading their posts because you know whether you agree or disagree with the person that they are still a good dude
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If Ponds and Yakwe hit their foul shots and if they don't foul on 3 consecutive 3 point shot attempts, St. John's wins this game..
Players are no great shakes either.. A very dumb group.
+1 Unbelievable and if they won the BS about firing Mullin quiets down and he is on his way to being a genius :laugh:
Hardy, Boothe, Evans, Burrell, Brownlee were all thought to be pretty dumb until a new staff took over. Bad coaching produces players with no idea what they’re doing. We grasped defeat from the jaws of victory today.
Would other programs blame the players with an 8-36 record. Writing is on the wall.
Headed towards three decades of not getting it. It’s not the players. It never was. It’s the coach.
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
And actually Fun was pro Norm to the end so I guess he just means you Marillac.
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
Those BEB days were the wild west. Fun party that time that PMG put together at whatever bar that was in NYC
Social
Yeah that's the place. 2nd floor. That was a fun time. A lot of BEB guys were there that night. Lot's of beers
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Anton Goff
@AD_Goff_StJohns
Long bus ride home. Still numb from that game. I tend to remember the tough losses more than the great wins. That’s just me. Will remember this one for a long time. Feel bad for these guys. They play their heart out for each other #sjubb
Nice sentiment. My only question is this part, " I tend to remember the tough losses more than the great wins." I'll bite, can someone tell me the last time they had a "great win?" Heck, how about the last time they had a win....?" LOL!!! just kidding....
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Anton Goff
@AD_Goff_StJohns
Long bus ride home. Still numb from that game. I tend to remember the tough losses more than the great wins. That’s just me. Will remember this one for a long time. Feel bad for these guys. They play their heart out for each other #sjubb
Nice sentiment. My only question is this part, " I tend to remember the tough losses more than the great wins." I'll bite, can someone tell me the last time they had a "great win?" Heck, how about the last time they had a win....?" LOL!!! just kidding....
that's why he doesn't remember the great wins cause there weren't any and I ain't kidding.
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I realize there is no reasoning with some but would just like to point out to the people claiming that this is a three year old problem, what would anyone have done that first year? People talked a nice game about understanding 1st year would be a mess but few followed through on their promise of sanity.
The 2nd year most thought we showed both an improvement on the court and in talent coming in.
This year we were right where we needed to be. Lovett thing killed the year. Now Mullin should absolutely get killed for the roster management that caused this year to go down in flames. But if Lovett had decided to stay and play we are probably 4-4 or 3-5 in BE right now.
There was progression until Lovett thing.
Sorry to interrupt the bitching, please continue. Just for old times sake though can someone start typing the Mullin sucks posts in all CAPS. Miss old BEB.
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Anton Goff
@AD_Goff_StJohns
Long bus ride home. Still numb from that game. I tend to remember the tough losses more than the great wins. That’s just me. Will remember this one for a long time. Feel bad for these guys. They play their heart out for each other #sjubb
Nice sentiment. My only question is this part, " I tend to remember the tough losses more than the great wins." I'll bite, can someone tell me the last time they had a "great win?" Heck, how about the last time they had a win....?" LOL!!! just kidding....
Iona
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Anton Goff
@AD_Goff_StJohns
Long bus ride home. Still numb from that game. I tend to remember the tough losses more than the great wins. That’s just me. Will remember this one for a long time. Feel bad for these guys. They play their heart out for each other #sjubb
Nice sentiment. My only question is this part, " I tend to remember the tough losses more than the great wins." I'll bite, can someone tell me the last time they had a "great win?" Heck, how about the last time they had a win....?" LOL!!! just kidding....
Iona
Said a month ago, that Iona would be they only win against an NCAA Tournament team. We shall see
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My God, 0-3 against DePaul and Georgetown this year...
Seriously I would have bet anything that would not be the case this year...
I'm speechless...
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I'll say this its funny because certain posters are complaining that other posters keep spewing the same negative stuff and trust me I get it. It does get old. But those same posters 10 years ago who essentially ruined redmen.com back then and then went over to BEB and continued posting the SAME INCESSANT anti-Norm stuff starting in year 2. Jumping on rumors he would be fired after year 3, year 4, year 5....
Now they can't understand why in year 3 of a non-sanctioned rebuild in a different BE some posters might be complaining about an 0-8 start and 8-36 league record in almost 2 1/2 years....?
Again it does get old, but it sure does make me yearn for the good old days when Norm literally got no slack despite taking over a train wreck ...
Oh you mean when we weren't even old enough to drink? You don't think a decade of life and experiencing three complete rebuilds can influence someone?
Must mean you and Fun, Marillac because I started on BEB.
And another stupid argument anyway. Norm was given 6 years this is year 3 of Mullin. And besides I tried to be creative when I complained about Norm. Tale of Tapes, top 10 lists, nicknames.
Didn't just post over and over Norm sucks, Norm can't coach. Norm sucks. Duhhh. Some of these Mullin posts are like a cry for help.
Really only person who did that was Realfan and he was universally mocked. Like most of you should be.
Just to be clear. Things look terrible for Mullin. I am not sure he actually even coaches the team. If we are bad next year we should go in yet another direction.
However because I like Mullin and because going in another direction means we will suck for longer, I do hope he figures it out next year.
Oh and for the record I signed on BEB for first time right before year 4 of Norm. So there!
And actually Fun was pro Norm to the end so I guess he just means you Marillac.
I assumed he meant mostly me...probably Black Stallion too.
Norm was a disaster. Not only was his 24-84 record at Queens College impossible to ignore, the guy just had no shot at top recruits. His best season came with Jarvis leftovers Showtime and Lamont Hamilton. Lance Stephenson literally had us as a finalist with four separate schools four separate times. Each time a school moved on, he added another. He had zero intention on ever coming here.