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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: desco80 on December 05, 2016, 03:10:48 PM

Title: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: desco80 on December 05, 2016, 03:10:48 PM
6:30 tonight on campus.

FYI: for anyone who's interested they are collecting toys for a toy drive outside tonight's game.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 03:12:07 PM
13 point spread.. We are favored
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: desco80 on December 05, 2016, 03:28:29 PM
By 13 ?  Damn.   I think we'll win.  By everyone knows what happened last monday. 
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: desco80 on December 05, 2016, 06:13:29 PM
Why no Lovett tonight ?  Wtf
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 06:23:29 PM
Sprain shooting elbow?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Poison on December 05, 2016, 06:33:08 PM
Uh oh
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 06:36:36 PM
Sima air all from 3 feet
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 06:38:06 PM
Is Lovett on the bench?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: queensfinest on December 05, 2016, 06:42:25 PM
Yes he's here and actually in great spirits, that's the good news. The bad news is he has a walking boot on his right foot.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Wods317 on December 05, 2016, 06:44:27 PM
The fact that he is in walking boot doesn't tell you that much. That is very common for a sprained ankle regardless of the severity. I guess we will find out soon.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 06:47:30 PM
3 weeks at least
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 06:54:12 PM
Why is Amair a spot up shooter?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: 0404 on December 05, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
Ponds is awesome
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 07:11:46 PM
Ponds is awesome

Best player on the team in last 15 years or so
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: KJ_Django on December 05, 2016, 07:14:59 PM
Did any of our freshman last season play as bad as Freud has  played this year

In his defense his Defense isn't that bad and hes a solid passer/rebounder...he's just dreadful offensively thus far
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Gray Chudney on December 05, 2016, 07:30:33 PM
Did any of our freshman last season play as bad as Freud has  played this year

In his defense his Defense isn't that bad and hes a solid passer/rebounder...he's just dreadful offensively thus far
Ellison could barely hit iron early on last year. Give RF time. He's a young freshman with size, skills and instincts.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: 0404 on December 05, 2016, 07:43:24 PM
I really dislike Ahmed's game
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 07:50:20 PM
They don't stop taking 3's they are going to lose
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 07:50:21 PM
Refs bailed us out twice. Gotta take advantage
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 08:06:49 PM
Why is Amar playing in a close game?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 08:07:02 PM
Dumb dumb plays
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 08:07:48 PM
Why is Amar playing in a close game?

Why is it a close game, should be the question
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 08:09:44 PM
Keep on grinding.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 08:11:36 PM
Keep on grinding.
Imagine if Lavin said that while losing to this shit team
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 05, 2016, 08:11:51 PM
Bad play by Yakwe. If you're going to foul him then you better make sure he doesn't get the shot off.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 05, 2016, 08:12:48 PM
Why is Lovett not playing? What did I miss?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 08:13:42 PM
Why is Lovett not playing? What did I miss?
Sprained ankle. No info about how serious
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 08:13:57 PM
Why is Lovett not playing? What did I miss?

In a boot
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 08:14:53 PM
1 on 1 ball
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 05, 2016, 08:15:55 PM
Why is Lovett not playing? What did I miss?
Sprained ankle. No info about how serious

Ughh brutal. Hope it's only a few games, if any.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 05, 2016, 08:16:18 PM
Why is Lovett not playing? What did I miss?

In a boot

Sucks.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: 0404 on December 05, 2016, 08:17:45 PM
Not sure I can sanely watch a whole season of Yakwe, Ahmed and Amar
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 05, 2016, 08:19:02 PM
Hard charging Ahmed as always. Keep your head up (literally).
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 08:21:37 PM
Don't hate Ahmed . I wish he took better shots. But I think that about all of these guys . At least he occasionally goes to the basket
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 08:27:03 PM
Don't know how Owens will do in conference, but I like him a lot.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 08:30:26 PM
Thank God They suck. Otherwise we would have lost this game
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 05, 2016, 08:31:31 PM
This makes Rucker looks organized.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 08:34:05 PM
Why take our best free throw shooter out?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Why take our best free throw shooter out?
Crazy
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: rdstr25 on December 05, 2016, 08:35:20 PM
Defense for offense, which backfired
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 08:36:01 PM
They should have just fouled Ellison or Owens. Stupid
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 05, 2016, 08:40:09 PM
Johnnies hang on. Good hard fought win. Let's hope Lovett gets back quick.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marillac on December 05, 2016, 08:44:18 PM
Ponds is some passer. If there is a silver lining this year it's that Ponds is the goods.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 05, 2016, 08:44:40 PM
Cuse playing UConn at MSG.

st John's playing Cal St Nortnridge in Queens

Why
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Celtics11 on December 05, 2016, 09:21:52 PM
Did any of our freshman last season play as bad as Freud has  played this year

In his defense his Defense isn't that bad and hes a solid passer/rebounder...he's just dreadful offensively thus far
Ellison could barely hit iron early on last year. Give RF time. He's a young freshman with size, skills and instincts.
That's not encouraging. Ellison can barely hit iron this year either.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: boo3 on December 05, 2016, 09:25:39 PM
Take the win, especially without the leader and best player ( one of them).

Interior defense is still atrocious.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on December 05, 2016, 09:28:01 PM
We should smile every night knowing we have Ponds and Lovett for the next 2+ years. And they are only going to get better.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: redmen not storm on December 05, 2016, 09:41:16 PM
We probably lose this game if csun doesn't go 2-14 from 3.

Ponds is by far the most well rounded player on this team. No need for a mvp poll tonight
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: desco80 on December 05, 2016, 09:46:03 PM
Heard Richmond on the radio after the game ... he said the team had a very emotional "come to Jesus meeting" down in New Orleans.  No aau coaches or advisors, nobodies dad or uncle .... and he said a lot of things got hashed out in that meeting and everybody felt a lot looser and as if a weight had been lifted. 
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: JayJay on December 05, 2016, 09:48:35 PM
UConn beats ExCuse by 2. Can't tell which team/school I hate more, and especially playing at MSG.

Cuse playing UConn at MSG.

st John's playing Cal St Nortnridge in Queens

Why
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: prjohnnies on December 05, 2016, 09:51:31 PM
Ha your views are an enigma to me Baldi

Sprain shooting elbow?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: desco80 on December 05, 2016, 10:15:00 PM
FYI Howie Kussoy from the Post says Lovett is day to day with a sprained ankle. 
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: HowCouldUBeSoHarkless on December 05, 2016, 10:40:01 PM
Was at the game. Shocked at how much Amar played in crunch time. Otherwise hope Lovett is better soon, can't win against marginally better than CSUN teams without him.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 05, 2016, 10:46:03 PM
We should smile every night knowing we have Ponds and Lovett for the next 2+ years. And they are only going to get better.
Where they going? These are the kind of guys we need. Not only are they great, but to skinny and short to play in NBA. Just like Harrison . 4 year studs!
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: RedStormNC on December 05, 2016, 11:14:27 PM
Post game quotes

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/120516aab.html

Post game press conf
http://www.redstormsports.com/collegesportslive/?media=543647
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Celtics11 on December 05, 2016, 11:21:01 PM
Was at the game. Shocked at how much Amar played in crunch time. Otherwise hope Lovett is better soon, can't win against marginally better than CSUN teams without him.
Astute coaching move. We are half way home as our win total increased to 4.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Poison on December 05, 2016, 11:31:22 PM
Cuse playing UConn at MSG.

st John's playing Cal St Nortnridge in Queens

Why

Because those are two programs that win. Who would bother to go on a Monday night if we were playing?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: valgoth on December 05, 2016, 11:51:13 PM
Cuse playing UConn at MSG.

st John's playing Cal St Nortnridge in Queens

Why

Because those are two programs that win. Who would bother to go on a Monday night if we were playing?

that game was a tough watch,  I think cuse went over 10 minutes with 1 FG
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: MCNPA on December 05, 2016, 11:54:11 PM
Our deficiencies are definitely accentuated, but even without Lovett we won.  Good sign.  Mussini played great.  Ponds was amazing.  Our biggest weakness we can fix this season, that being our frontcourt.  Still think we are headed in right direction. 

Even without Lovett, our offense looked fine.  Our defense still looks like crap.  Not sure how we remedy that?  Is it coaching or just that we have poor defensive players?  Yakwe is lost and Sima has regressed.  Liked that we got some minutes for Freudenbeg, but he still has to be more aggressive.  He's got his man backed down.  He can't always pass it... Gotta use some savy and score from there.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Celtics11 on December 06, 2016, 12:14:18 AM
Our deficiencies are definitely accentuated, but even without Lovett we won.  Good sign.  Mussini played great.  Ponds was amazing.  Our biggest weakness we can fix this season, that being our frontcourt.  Still think we are headed in right direction. 

Even without Lovett, our offense looked fine.  Our defense still looks like crap.  Not sure how we remedy that?  Is it coaching or just that we have poor defensive players?  Yakwe is lost and Sima has regressed.  Liked that we got some minutes for Freudenbeg, but he still has to be more aggressive.  He's got his man backed down.  He can't always pass it... Gotta use some savy and score from there.
If as you say players have regressed or look lost on defense that sounds like coaching.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: MCNPA on December 06, 2016, 12:36:24 AM
Our deficiencies are definitely accentuated, but even without Lovett we won.  Good sign.  Mussini played great.  Ponds was amazing.  Our biggest weakness we can fix this season, that being our frontcourt.  Still think we are headed in right direction. 

Even without Lovett, our offense looked fine.  Our defense still looks like crap.  Not sure how we remedy that?  Is it coaching or just that we have poor defensive players?  Yakwe is lost and Sima has regressed.  Liked that we got some minutes for Freudenbeg, but he still has to be more aggressive.  He's got his man backed down.  He can't always pass it... Gotta use some savy and score from there.
If as you say players have regressed or look lost on defense that sounds like coaching.

Not necessarily..  Sir Dom didn't improve much if at all his first season or so.  Lots of other I could name.  I just think it's specify with this crew ie. Sima and Yakwe.  Yakwe is offensively challenged.  He's still a good shot blocker.  Sima just hadn't moved the needle much.   I'm not sure why people think it's all coaching though?  Chris Dudley practiced free throws and got plenty of coaching and always sucked.  Sometimes the talent isn't malleable.  We have guards that stepped in and are excellent..  Mussini improved quite a bit. Yakwe and Sima aren't.  I think it has more to do with Both of their sucky ball control though.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Scheppy on December 06, 2016, 07:32:42 AM
“I enjoyed watching the way St. John’s played tonight. I’ve known Chris [Mullin] for a long time and Mitch [Richmond] for a long time. It’s kind of nice to see what those guys are doing. For a while, I was one of the only guys that was coaching in college that played that long in the NBA. I know the battle that they are going through right now, with a young team trying to figure things out. I think the future is really bright here. I know those two guys know basketball and they have really good people around them.”

Comments from Reggie Theus - per Adam

I respect people like this more than people that put Chris and Mitch down that never played in the NBA
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Poison on December 06, 2016, 09:33:07 AM
“I enjoyed watching the way St. John’s played tonight. I’ve known Chris [Mullin] for a long time and Mitch [Richmond] for a long time. It’s kind of nice to see what those guys are doing. For a while, I was one of the only guys that was coaching in college that played that long in the NBA. I know the battle that they are going through right now, with a young team trying to figure things out. I think the future is really bright here. I know those two guys know basketball and they have really good people around them.”

Comments from Reggie Theus - per Adam

I respect people like this more than people that put Chris and Mitch down that never played in the NBA

Reggie can really relate to them because as a former NBA star w no coaching experience, he's just as lost as they are. Great observation.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Wods317 on December 06, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
“I enjoyed watching the way St. John’s played tonight. I’ve known Chris [Mullin] for a long time and Mitch [Richmond] for a long time. It’s kind of nice to see what those guys are doing. For a while, I was one of the only guys that was coaching in college that played that long in the NBA. I know the battle that they are going through right now, with a young team trying to figure things out. I think the future is really bright here. I know those two guys know basketball and they have really good people around them.”

Comments from Reggie Theus - per Adam

I respect people like this more than people that put Chris and Mitch down that never played in the NBA

Reggie can really relate to them because as a former NBA star w no coaching experience, he's just as lost as they are. Great observation.

They have a a few nice players and I think they should be pretty competitive in their conference. That big man from UCONN has some skill, if he plays more under control he could do some damage for them. It is interesting that their whole team is made up of almost all transfers from big programs.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: QuanMan on December 06, 2016, 10:07:31 AM
-Ever since it was re-emphasized amidst the losing streak the ball movement has been tremendous. The roster likes eachother and is making eachother better. They are learning how to win together game by game.

-Malik with his most complete game in a Johnnie uniform.

-Shamorie with a masterful performance. Remarkable poise and vision, controls tempo, he's a true city general.

-Tariq's hustle is contagious, love his tenacity, brings it every night. A crowd favorite, his minutes are coming.


This winning streak can't end here. I'm trying to make the NIT at the very least. They need some notable OOC W's with their remaining schedule before the new year to improve their resume. The VCU loss still stings. I want to embarrass Fordham, take care of business w LIUBK and then get our first notable W against Penn St. next Sunday.

The Penn St. and @Cuse matchups are HUGE.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Foad on December 06, 2016, 10:12:56 AM
Northridge recap: http://www.bigeastboards.com/
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: prjohnnies on December 06, 2016, 10:23:54 AM
CSUN reminded me of a bigger version of the typical Iona teams we have seen under Cluess.  A few high-major transfers who have some offensive skills and were recruited over at prior schools but will be very good at their level, some athletes, and minimal defense.


“I enjoyed watching the way St. John’s played tonight. I’ve known Chris [Mullin] for a long time and Mitch [Richmond] for a long time. It’s kind of nice to see what those guys are doing. For a while, I was one of the only guys that was coaching in college that played that long in the NBA. I know the battle that they are going through right now, with a young team trying to figure things out. I think the future is really bright here. I know those two guys know basketball and they have really good people around them.”

Comments from Reggie Theus - per Adam

I respect people like this more than people that put Chris and Mitch down that never played in the NBA

Reggie can really relate to them because as a former NBA star w no coaching experience, he's just as lost as they are. Great observation.

They have a a few nice players and I think they should be pretty competitive in their conference. That big man from UCONN has some skill, if he plays more under control he could do some damage for them. It is interesting that their whole team is made up of almost all transfers from big programs.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: redslope on December 06, 2016, 10:27:17 AM
Northridge showed again our lack of physicality underneath; why Amar got minutes is that he is probably the bulkiest guy we have.

Pre game write up said this was a good 3PT shooting team but they did not look it tonight.  I am not sure how much we had to do with it as they played Saturday night and had a cross country trip for a game played at 3"30PM their local time.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Poison on December 06, 2016, 10:35:27 AM
Northridge showed again our lack of physicality underneath; why Amar got minutes is that he is probably the bulkiest guy we have.

Pre game write up said this was a good 3PT shooting team but they did not look it tonight.  I am not sure how much we had to do with it as they played Saturday night and had a cross country trip for a game played at 3"30PM their local time.

We don't have one big man who knows what he's doing. Sima and Yakwe are often not even facing the direction of the play. What are they looking at? The staff needs to find another way to get through to them. Penn State and SU will kill us if we pull that shit against them.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Poison on December 06, 2016, 11:22:11 AM
-Ever since it was re-emphasized amidst the losing streak the ball movement has been tremendous. The roster likes eachother and is making eachother better. They are learning how to win together game by game.

-Malik with his most complete game in a Johnnie uniform.

-Shamorie with a masterful performance. Remarkable poise and vision, controls tempo, he's a true city general.

-Tariq's hustle is contagious, love his tenacity, brings it every night. A crowd favorite, his minutes are coming.


This winning streak can't end here. I'm trying to make the NIT at the very least. They need some notable OOC W's with their remaining schedule before the new year to improve their resume. The VCU loss still stings. I want to embarrass Fordham, take care of business w LIUBK and then get our first notable W against Penn St. next Sunday.

The Penn St. and @Cuse matchups are HUGE.

Good stuff. Malik is starting to play better. He looked good passing the ball, and we really need him to be a guy that does it all. He has to fight for rebounds, make plays for other guys, like he did last night and he has to penetrate. He was getting into the lane last season. Last night, his dribble seemed to have no point. Like he was just showing off.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 11:45:14 AM
“I enjoyed watching the way St. John’s played tonight. I’ve known Chris [Mullin] for a long time and Mitch [Richmond] for a long time. It’s kind of nice to see what those guys are doing. For a while, I was one of the only guys that was coaching in college that played that long in the NBA. I know the battle that they are going through right now, with a young team trying to figure things out. I think the future is really bright here. I know those two guys know basketball and they have really good people around them.”

Comments from Reggie Theus - per Adam

I respect people like this more than people that put Chris and Mitch down that never played in the NBA

Reggie can really relate to them because as a former NBA star w no coaching experience, he's just as lost as they are. Great observation.

Reggie won a HS championship with a girl and Anthony Anderson when he was really fat. That Hang Time team could ball!
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 12:06:53 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Celtics11 on December 06, 2016, 12:22:59 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow
Uh, no.     PS. this should make Scheppy happy.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: redmen4life on December 06, 2016, 12:26:15 PM
-Ever since it was re-emphasized amidst the losing streak the ball movement has been tremendous. The roster likes eachother and is making eachother better. They are learning how to win together game by game.

-Malik with his most complete game in a Johnnie uniform.

-Shamorie with a masterful performance. Remarkable poise and vision, controls tempo, he's a true city general.

-Tariq's hustle is contagious, love his tenacity, brings it every night. A crowd favorite, his minutes are coming.


This winning streak can't end here. I'm trying to make the NIT at the very least. They need some notable OOC W's with their remaining schedule before the new year to improve their resume. The VCU loss still stings. I want to embarrass Fordham, take care of business w LIUBK and then get our first notable W against Penn St. next Sunday.

The Penn St. and @Cuse matchups are HUGE.

Good stuff. Malik is starting to play better. He looked good passing the ball, and we really need him to be a guy that does it all. He has to fight for rebounds, make plays for other guys, like he did last night and he has to penetrate. He was getting into the lane last season. Last night, his dribble seemed to have no point. Like he was just showing off.

 i don't know what game you guys were watching but Ellison was once again horrible.  Threw a bunch of lazy passes. Forced shots.  And all I know is that Mullin was riding him hard all game.

Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: sju61982 on December 06, 2016, 12:31:36 PM
-Ever since it was re-emphasized amidst the losing streak the ball movement has been tremendous. The roster likes eachother and is making eachother better. They are learning how to win together game by game.

-Malik with his most complete game in a Johnnie uniform.

-Shamorie with a masterful performance. Remarkable poise and vision, controls tempo, he's a true city general.

-Tariq's hustle is contagious, love his tenacity, brings it every night. A crowd favorite, his minutes are coming.


This winning streak can't end here. I'm trying to make the NIT at the very least. They need some notable OOC W's with their remaining schedule before the new year to improve their resume. The VCU loss still stings. I want to embarrass Fordham, take care of business w LIUBK and then get our first notable W against Penn St. next Sunday.

The Penn St. and @Cuse matchups are HUGE.

Good stuff. Malik is starting to play better. He looked good passing the ball, and we really need him to be a guy that does it all. He has to fight for rebounds, make plays for other guys, like he did last night and he has to penetrate. He was getting into the lane last season. Last night, his dribble seemed to have no point. Like he was just showing off.

 i don't know what game you guys were watching but Ellison was once again horrible.  Threw a bunch of lazy passes. Forced shots.  And all I know is that Mullin was riding him hard all game.



First half, he was terrible.  Second half, I thought he did a better job.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Foad on December 06, 2016, 12:32:16 PM
Reggie can really relate to them because as a former NBA star w no coaching experience, he's just as lost as they are. Great observation.

RT took NM State from 6 wins to the NCAA tournament in two years before coaching the Sacramento Kings.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny4Life on December 06, 2016, 12:35:53 PM
Was at the game. Shocked at how much Amar played in crunch time. Otherwise hope Lovett is better soon, can't win against marginally better than CSUN teams without him.

Why? Sima hasn't exactly been lighting it up lately. Not even on the defensive end. Owens is okay but foul prone. Yakwe is a great blocker but can't play the 5.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Foad on December 06, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

Maybe bench both of them and let Mussini play the point and shooting guard.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 12:37:20 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

There is something wrong with you!
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 12:39:02 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

Maybe bench both of them and let Mussini play the point and shooting guard.

Funny he was saying Mussini was better than Ponds early in season.
I will give it to him that Mussini is far and away our best white player. Of course Amar is our 2nd best so....you know
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 06, 2016, 12:51:48 PM
The guard domination continues for this team. Mullin is playing with lineups as much as he can to see if anyone (Owens, Freud, Amar) can provide frountcourt scoring. It's a work in progress but the W's are all that matter at this point.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Foad on December 06, 2016, 01:04:46 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

Maybe bench both of them and let Mussini play the point and shooting guard.

Funny he was saying Mussini was better than Ponds early in season.
I will give it to him that Mussini is far and away our best white player. Of course Amar is our 2nd best so....you know

You forgot Herr Gazellemeisterfuhrer, the funf star recruit.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 01:04:57 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

Maybe bench both of them and let Mussini play the point and shooting guard.

Funny he was saying Mussini was better than Ponds early in season.
I will give it to him that Mussini is far and away our best white player. Of course Amar is our 2nd best so....you know

Never said that. I did say that maybe Ponds should maybe come off the bench so Mussini can get in the flow of the game.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marillac on December 06, 2016, 01:07:01 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

There is something wrong with you!

I still think that Lovett is the future, but I'm not convinced we would have won last
night if he was playing. He can do a lot more with less IMO. Last year we needed a Tasmanian devil at PG but this year Ponds and Mussini can both create....Ellison as well in spurts. It was probably a good thing longterm that the team played as well without him last night.

Barring an open look, the best option will probably always be Ponds creating off the bounce. His passes are just so much more accurate and manageable at this point.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 01:19:12 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

There is something wrong with you!

I still think that Lovett is the future, but I'm not convinced we would have won last
night if he was playing. He can do a lot more with less IMO. Last year we needed a Tasmanian devil at PG but this year Ponds and Mussini can both create....Ellison as well in spurts. It was probably a good thing longterm that the team played as well without him last night.

Barring an open look, the best option will probably always be Ponds creating off the bounce. His passes are just so much more accurate and manageable at this point.

Yes Mussini looked very creative missing that open layup by 2 feet.
Mussini is fine if his feet are set and he is by himself. Two things that can only happen if Ponds and or Lovett are on the floor being paid attention to. That is Mussini's best / only role. ST Jean er Mullin knows this. In fact Mussini was benched last year for everyones favorite Ellison.
Mussini's role is what it is. People really need to understand that. No one better than him, e.g. Ponds, Lovett or Ahmed should play or do anything less for Mussini's sake!
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 06, 2016, 01:22:11 PM
Let's not kid ourselves. Lovett adds a whole different dimension to this team, especially when under control, with his speed and ball handling ability. We need him on the court as much as possible to have any chance of beating the better teams.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 01:26:29 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Gray Chudney on December 06, 2016, 01:30:43 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Agree with this.  I also think Mussini established himself as the third guard.  Really everything else warrants tinkering.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 01:48:23 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else

Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny23 on December 06, 2016, 01:57:45 PM
We already know what the guards give us and they are the clear strength of this team. I'm more interested in seeing what the frontcourt cast gives us and if there's any signs of life in these guys.

Sure you can also play around with Ellison and see how he does with the other guards in one lineup. He needs to work on a lot of things but I want to see how he plays off the ball and if he can score in that role versus just driving to the hoop.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 01:57:51 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: mjmaherjr on December 06, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
-Ever since it was re-emphasized amidst the losing streak the ball movement has been tremendous. The roster likes eachother and is making eachother better. They are learning how to win together game by game.

-Malik with his most complete game in a Johnnie uniform.

-Shamorie with a masterful performance. Remarkable poise and vision, controls tempo, he's a true city general.

-Tariq's hustle is contagious, love his tenacity, brings it every night. A crowd favorite, his minutes are coming.


This winning streak can't end here. I'm trying to make the NIT at the very least. They need some notable OOC W's with their remaining schedule before the new year to improve their resume. The VCU loss still stings. I want to embarrass Fordham, take care of business w LIUBK and then get our first notable W against Penn St. next Sunday.

The Penn St. and @Cuse matchups are HUGE.

Good stuff. Malik is starting to play better. He looked good passing the ball, and we really need him to be a guy that does it all. He has to fight for rebounds, make plays for other guys, like he did last night and he has to penetrate. He was getting into the lane last season. Last night, his dribble seemed to have no point. Like he was just showing off.

 i don't know what game you guys were watching but Ellison was once again horrible.  Threw a bunch of lazy passes. Forced shots.  And all I know is that Mullin was riding him hard all game.


other than free throws I thought his shooting was good last night. Hit more than he missed
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Gray Chudney on December 06, 2016, 02:02:04 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 02:04:11 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: cjfish on December 06, 2016, 02:57:12 PM
Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

Maybe bench both of them and let Mussini play the point and shooting guard.











Funny he was saying Mussini was better than Ponds early in season.
I will give it to him that Mussini is far and away our best white player. Of course Amar is our 2nd best so....you know

You forgot Herr Gazellemeisterfuhrer, the funf star recruit.




By Feb sehr  gut basketball spielen
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 06, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
Don't want this to be a lost season . Winter much better with a basketball season. have to fix the defense. They tried zone, but didn't stay with it long. I think Owens could be a great zone defender on the wing. The kid plays with plenty of energy. It will also keep him out of foul trouble.
Ahmed- I like that he attacks the basket. He needs to be reigned in. But he isn't the only one. Also think the zone would help him stay on court. I seem to like him more then most. The kid is physical and we will need that in the big east.

Amar- shoudnt ever play.

Yakwe and sima- are what they are. They offensive system doesn't do them any favors. All big east second team was crazy talk.

Happy we won. Certainly not better off without Lovett. Their is talent to have a season. It would be nice to penn state on a winning streak.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: prjohnnies on December 06, 2016, 04:13:46 PM
Doesn't Mussini have like 6 assists for the year?  I don't think he is a real "creator" of offense for anyone.  He has shot very well, provided some instant offense, played intelligently/within the offense and not turned it over.  All good things, and I see that as his role.  He doesn't create for anyone; in fact, he is seeing the benefit of having guys who can create for him.

Try Lovett off the bench. Ponds looked great and in the flow

There is something wrong with you!

I still think that Lovett is the future, but I'm not convinced we would have won last
night if he was playing. He can do a lot more with less IMO. Last year we needed a Tasmanian devil at PG but this year Ponds and Mussini can both create....Ellison as well in spurts. It was probably a good thing longterm that the team played as well without him last night.

Barring an open look, the best option will probably always be Ponds creating off the bounce. His passes are just so much more accurate and manageable at this point.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: prjohnnies on December 06, 2016, 04:19:30 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 04:48:39 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.

Momo was the Pg?

Was Lovett allowed to practice with the team last year?

Lovett can get all the buckets he wants, and I'm sure he will.  Fantastic. What place we finishing in in the Big East? The responsibility always falls on the PG. Win or lose
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 05:10:37 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.

Momo was the Pg?

Was Lovett allowed to practice with the team last year?

Lovett can get all the buckets he wants, and I'm sure he will.  Fantastic. What place we finishing in in the Big East? The responsibility always falls on the PG. Win or lose

Yet Mussini was the point guard (until he was benched for Ellison) on the worst Saint John's team ever and you seem to like him just fine.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 05:13:48 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.

Momo was the Pg?

Was Lovett allowed to practice with the team last year?

Lovett can get all the buckets he wants, and I'm sure he will.  Fantastic. What place we finishing in in the Big East? The responsibility always falls on the PG. Win or lose

Yet Mussini was the point guard (until he was benched for Ellison) on the worst Saint John's team ever and you seem to like him just fine.

And the teams leading returning scorer
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 05:16:57 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.

Momo was the Pg?

Was Lovett allowed to practice with the team last year?

Lovett can get all the buckets he wants, and I'm sure he will.  Fantastic. What place we finishing in in the Big East? The responsibility always falls on the PG. Win or lose

Yet Mussini was the point guard (until he was benched for Ellison) on the worst Saint John's team ever and you seem to like him just fine.

And the teams leading returning scorer

Point guard's job to make others better. Last year everyone stunk. I blame Mussini.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: prjohnnies on December 06, 2016, 05:17:06 PM
Come on now as a senior you know MoMo was the PG/primary ball handler on that team.  Kid never met a shot he didn't like.  Averaged more turnovers than assists -- as a senior.  Yet you have more negative comments about Lovett in a handful of games.  He is a young player that will need time to develop, as almost all young players do.  We will need him to score, just like Ponds, when others aren't capable of doing so.  And he'll be doing it most of the year against really good competition.  Be happy we have him because he is one of the best young PGs the school has had in a long, long time.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 05:18:23 PM
Come on now as a senior you know MoMo was the PG/primary ball handler on that team.  Kid never met a shot he didn't like.  Averaged more turnovers than assists -- as a senior.  Yet you have more negative comments about Lovett in a handful of games.  He is a young player that will need time to develop, as almost all young players do.  We will need him to score, just like Ponds, when others aren't capable of doing so.  And he'll be doing it most of the year against really good competition.  Be happy we have him because he is one of the best young PGs the school has had in a long, long time.

I also said Lovett is a top 5 pg in the big east
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 05:19:49 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.

Momo was the Pg?

Was Lovett allowed to practice with the team last year?

Lovett can get all the buckets he wants, and I'm sure he will.  Fantastic. What place we finishing in in the Big East? The responsibility always falls on the PG. Win or lose

Yet Mussini was the point guard (until he was benched for Ellison) on the worst Saint John's team ever and you seem to like him just fine.

And the teams leading returning scorer

Point guard's job to make others better. Last year everyone stunk. I blame Mussini.

Who is Lovett making better? Ponds? Ahmed?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: we are sju on December 06, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.

Momo was the Pg?

Was Lovett allowed to practice with the team last year?

Lovett can get all the buckets he wants, and I'm sure he will.  Fantastic. What place we finishing in in the Big East? The responsibility always falls on the PG. Win or lose

Yet Mussini was the point guard (until he was benched for Ellison) on the worst Saint John's team ever and you seem to like him just fine.

And the teams leading returning scorer

Point guard's job to make others better. Last year everyone stunk. I blame Mussini.

Who is Lovett making better? Ponds? Ahmed?

Mussini actually. Ponds does not need anyone to make him better.
Only the lord our savior could make some of the other guys better and he is busy
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 05:29:52 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.

Momo was the Pg?

Was Lovett allowed to practice with the team last year?

Lovett can get all the buckets he wants, and I'm sure he will.  Fantastic. What place we finishing in in the Big East? The responsibility always falls on the PG. Win or lose

Yet Mussini was the point guard (until he was benched for Ellison) on the worst Saint John's team ever and you seem to like him just fine.

And the teams leading returning scorer

Point guard's job to make others better. Last year everyone stunk. I blame Mussini.

Who is Lovett making better? Ponds? Ahmed?

Mussini actually. Ponds does not need anyone to make him better.
Only the lord our savior could make some of the other guys better and he is busy

So like I was saying earlier. Maybe Lovett and Mussini should get some minutes together?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marco Baldi on December 06, 2016, 05:31:02 PM
You seem down on Lovett more than most, Baldi, even acknowledging he is a good player ("sprained elbow" comment etc).  Yes, he needs to work on being a floor general, getting others involved and defense, in addition to getting buckets.  But he is only a handful of games into his freshman year and, given that context, I am thrilled with his play thus far.  As a fellow Iona fan, you often posted glowing remarks about MoMo Jones, a shoot-first PG who averaged more turnovers than assists as a SENIOR and put up (estimating) probably 25 shots a game, playing no defense (and I'm a MoMo fan).  So I don't get the criticism of Lovett to date.


Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.

Who cares? Ellison probably won't be here next year and Mussini will have the same role, 15 minutes or so.

I'd rather be somewhat competitive in the Big East than beat Fordham  and LIU by 30. Work sht out out now.

Momo was the Pg?

Was Lovett allowed to practice with the team last year?

Lovett can get all the buckets he wants, and I'm sure he will.  Fantastic. What place we finishing in in the Big East? The responsibility always falls on the PG. Win or lose

Yet Mussini was the point guard (until he was benched for Ellison) on the worst Saint John's team ever and you seem to like him just fine.

And the teams leading returning scorer

Point guard's job to make others better. Last year everyone stunk. I blame Mussini.

Who is Lovett making better? Ponds? Ahmed?

Mussini actually. Ponds does not need anyone to make him better.
Only the lord our savior could make some of the other guys better and he is busy

So like I was saying earlier. Maybe Lovett and Mussini should get some minutes together?

Ellison and Ponds did look legit, last night
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: prjohnnies on December 06, 2016, 08:48:42 PM
Agree with you wholeheartedly that most of the time Mussini should be out there with Lovett or Ponds, playing off the ball, coming off screens or waiting for the kick out.  Only Lovett and Ponds seem to have the ability to get him regular looks so one should be with him most of the time.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 06, 2016, 08:55:50 PM
Agree with you wholeheartedly that most of the time Mussini should be out there with Lovett or Ponds, playing off the ball, coming off screens or waiting for the kick out.  Only Lovett and Ponds seem to have the ability to get him regular looks so one should be with him most of the time.
Great statergy if we were playing in the big west.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: desco80 on December 06, 2016, 10:45:22 PM
I don't blame the pg play for not getting others involved so far.  Bc they've tried to feed the ball to Sima and Yakwe and the two of them can't hold on to the damn ball or finish off a play. 

Lovett and ponds have been forced to score because our two big have been playing like stiffs.   Owens has shown some brief moments of good play.  But the 3 of them (plus Freud) need to step up as the season progresses.
Not sure how much more we can expect to get from Lovett and Ponds, and even Mussini.  Ellison is what he is. 
But the 3 big plus RF are where we should look for improvement.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: LoganK on December 07, 2016, 09:12:37 AM
Agree with you wholeheartedly that most of the time Mussini should be out there with Lovett or Ponds, playing off the ball, coming off screens or waiting for the kick out.  Only Lovett and Ponds seem to have the ability to get him regular looks so one should be with him most of the time.
Great statergy if we were playing in the big west.
Or the Big East.  Or the NBA.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 07, 2016, 09:48:47 AM
Agree with you wholeheartedly that most of the time Mussini should be out there with Lovett or Ponds, playing off the ball, coming off screens or waiting for the kick out.  Only Lovett and Ponds seem to have the ability to get him regular looks so one should be with him most of the time.
Great statergy if we were playing in the big west.
Or the Big East.  Or the NBA.
Great idea. That lineup could score 80 points a game. But give up 130!
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: LoganK on December 07, 2016, 11:18:58 AM
Agree with you wholeheartedly that most of the time Mussini should be out there with Lovett or Ponds, playing off the ball, coming off screens or waiting for the kick out.  Only Lovett and Ponds seem to have the ability to get him regular looks so one should be with him most of the time.
Great statergy if we were playing in the big west.
Or the Big East.  Or the NBA.
Great idea. That lineup could score 80 points a game. But give up 130!
I don't agree with your assessment that playing a 3-point specialist for 15 minutes with a guard who can get him open looks will result in giving up 130 pts.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Towerofshred on December 07, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Is Ellison injured?

I was rewatching the game, and I couldnt help noticing that Ellison was shying away from any sort of contact.  Be it on defense or on offense. He gave anyone driving a good 5 feet of room and wouldnt body anyone up.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: prjohnnies on December 07, 2016, 11:33:28 AM
Yea I don't think TONYD understood my post.  I wasn't advocating for Rico to play 35 minutes a game.  I was saying that when he plays, it makes sense to maximize his value by giving him minutes with the 2 guys who can get him open looks.  If Mussini isn't hitting jump shots, he doesn't seem to have much of a role.  When he is making shots, it gives us another threat that we desperately need given the lack of production on the interior.


Agree with you wholeheartedly that most of the time Mussini should be out there with Lovett or Ponds, playing off the ball, coming off screens or waiting for the kick out.  Only Lovett and Ponds seem to have the ability to get him regular looks so one should be with him most of the time.
Great statergy if we were playing in the big west.
Or the Big East.  Or the NBA.
Great idea. That lineup could score 80 points a game. But give up 130!
I don't agree with your assessment that playing a 3-point specialist for 15 minutes with a guard who can get him open looks will result in giving up 130 pts.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marillac on December 07, 2016, 11:40:48 AM
Agree with you wholeheartedly that most of the time Mussini should be out there with Lovett or Ponds, playing off the ball, coming off screens or waiting for the kick out.  Only Lovett and Ponds seem to have the ability to get him regular looks so one should be with him most of the time.
Great statergy if we were playing in the big west.
Or the Big East.  Or the NBA.
Great idea. That lineup could score 80 points a game. But give up 130!
I don't agree with your assessment that playing a 3-point specialist for 15 minutes with a guard who can get him open looks will result in giving up 130 pts.

Mussini has been one of our most solid defenders this year -- I won't argue that is probably not a good sign sign, but it is true.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 07, 2016, 11:41:28 AM
My fault guys. I definitely misunderstood. I agree it could work in the right situations.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 07, 2016, 11:42:01 AM
Agree with you wholeheartedly that most of the time Mussini should be out there with Lovett or Ponds, playing off the ball, coming off screens or waiting for the kick out.  Only Lovett and Ponds seem to have the ability to get him regular looks so one should be with him most of the time.
Great statergy if we were playing in the big west.
Or the Big East.  Or the NBA.
Great idea. That lineup could score 80 points a game. But give up 130!
I don't agree with your assessment that playing a 3-point specialist for 15 minutes with a guard who can get him open looks will result in giving up 130 pts.

Mussini has been one of our most solid defenders this year -- I won't argue that is probably not a good sign sign, but it is true.
And sadly I agree with this.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Foad on December 07, 2016, 12:14:23 PM
Mussini has been one of our most solid defenders this year -- I won't argue that is probably not a good sign sign, but it is true.

Yeah solid like molasses in February.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Foad on December 07, 2016, 12:20:01 PM
If Mussini isn't hitting jump shots,

Set shots, shirley.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny4Life on December 07, 2016, 05:09:20 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: goredmen on December 07, 2016, 05:19:44 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.

That would mean at least one and probably two of Yakwe, Sima and Owens would have to defend on the perimeter which would be far from ideal
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Johnny4Life on December 07, 2016, 05:21:49 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.

That would mean at least one and probably two of Yakwe, Sima and Owens would have to defend on the perimeter which would be far from ideal

I think Yakwe can defend a 3. Not sure about play offensively though.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on December 07, 2016, 05:32:53 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.

That would mean at least one and probably two of Yakwe, Sima and Owens would have to defend on the perimeter which would be far from ideal

2-3. defense wouldn't be the issue.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Poison on December 07, 2016, 05:56:11 PM
Guys like Yakwe and Ahmed have the athleticism to play great defense. They haven't yet, but they could. I think our best line up might be LoVett, Ponds, Ellison, Ahmed and Yakwe. Right now, Sima doesn't move at the speed we need him, too. He's been a liability against just about every player he's up against. Yakwe isn't much better, but at least he has the physical tools.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 07, 2016, 06:00:32 PM
Guys like Yakwe and Ahmed have the athleticism to play great defense. They haven't yet, but they could. I think our best line up might be LoVett, Ponds, Ellison, Ahmed and Yakwe. Right now, Sima doesn't move at the speed we need him, too. He's been a liability against just about every player he's up against. Yakwe isn't much better, but at least he has the physical tools.
Agree with this . Play sima more if the team is big. Problem is foul trouble. Ahmed  ant stay out of it.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marillac on December 07, 2016, 06:24:14 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.

That would mean at least one and probably two of Yakwe, Sima and Owens would have to defend on the perimeter which would be far from ideal

2-3. defense wouldn't be the issue.

Don't get me started on the lack of a zone. It is mind-boggling.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Marillac on December 07, 2016, 06:25:27 PM
Mussini has been one of our most solid defenders this year -- I won't argue that is probably not a good sign sign, but it is true.

Yeah solid like molasses in February.

Alan Jackson.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 07, 2016, 06:27:18 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.

That would mean at least one and probably two of Yakwe, Sima and Owens would have to defend on the perimeter which would be far from ideal

2-3. defense wouldn't be the issue.

Don't get me started on the lack of a zone. It is mind-boggling.
Watching seton hall now. Hawaii zone slowing them down in forst half.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: paultzman on December 07, 2016, 06:45:27 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.

That would mean at least one and probably two of Yakwe, Sima and Owens would have to defend on the perimeter which would be far from ideal

2-3. defense wouldn't be the issue.

Don't get me started on the lack of a zone. It is mind-boggling.
Watching seton hall now. Hawaii zone slowing them down in forst half.

You do know that game was played last night?
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: goredmen on December 07, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.

That would mean at least one and probably two of Yakwe, Sima and Owens would have to defend on the perimeter which would be far from ideal

2-3. defense wouldn't be the issue.

Don't get me started on the lack of a zone. It is mind-boggling.
Watching seton hall now. Hawaii zone slowing them down in forst half.

You do know that game was played last night?

Damn why'd you tell him. I was gonna try and get him to bite on a 2nd half bet
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: TONYD3 on December 07, 2016, 06:48:43 PM
Now is the time to tinker with lineups. Not in big East play. See who works better together against these scrub teams

Ponds and Lovett are the top 2 players on the team. Noone is saying otherwise

Best players play. Tinker with everyone else.
30 plus for Ponds and Lovett
Ahmed should play however many minutes he is not in foul trouble.
Mussini 15
Don't care about anyone else



There's not much else to tinker with but our guards. We need 1 of these guys on the court at all times. They can both start down the road, but let's see who works better with Ellison and who works better with Mussini.
I'd rather find out which front court combinations are best.  Ahmed + Sima?  Owens + Yakwe?  Let those guys develop chemistry in moving without the ball on offense and on the defensive glass.

I actually think our best defensive lineup would be if Owens, Sima and Yakwe can play the front court along with Ponds and Lovett in the back court with Ahmed as the 6th man. I think this would allow Ponds and Lovett to play tight on the ball defense as we have 3 shot blockers to step up in case someone gets beat. If we need a bucket inside, bring Ahmed in. If we need an exta shooter, Mussini.  If they have a big guard who's killing Ponds or Lovett with their size, bring in Ellison.

That would mean at least one and probably two of Yakwe, Sima and Owens would have to defend on the perimeter which would be far from ideal

2-3. defense wouldn't be the issue.

Don't get me started on the lack of a zone. It is mind-boggling.
Watching seton hall now. Hawaii zone slowing them down in forst half.

You do know that game was played last night?
Yeah should have mentioned, I DVr all big east games . Watch the ones that interest me quick
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on December 07, 2016, 09:46:48 PM


2-3. defense wouldn't be the issue.

Don't get me started on the lack of a zone. It is mind-boggling.
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They played a little bit against northridge. Did not look good but really seemed like it was due to not knowing what they should do not so much that they can't do it. When Owens was in the middle of the 2-3 there were times he was guarding the ball at the top of the key and at the corner of the baseline.  Interior defense. Interior. Big guys should stay put, control space, and not be so worried about guarding 15ft+ from the hoop. Try to form somewhat of a group effort.

 Its weird, our team seems so unselfish on offense but on defense they gamble and let their teammates out to dry on so many occasions. I think you let ponds be the guy who takes his chances. So far not only has he shown the best ability to force steals and get deflections but hes also proven to be crafty and canny not committing too many fouls in the process.  Too good of hands not to let him.
Title: Re: Game 9: Cal St. Northridge
Post by: Towerofshred on December 08, 2016, 05:19:59 PM
Just wanted to say that we easily let opposing guards penetrate that leads to our bigs rotating and going for blocks.  Which leads to either no rebound or an interior pass for an easy layup. Our guards need to stay in front of their defensive assignments.

Looking at you, Ellison.