6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2018 Class => Topic started by: mjdinkins on November 01, 2017, 02:55:58 AM
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Brooks, a top 100 kid (#86, per RSCI, #79, per 247Sports Composite, and as, high as #70 on Rivals) recently decommitted from Southern Cal.
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Thanks to the coaches from #Cal #Georgetown #StJohns & #Uconn for making a trip to Seattle. #ThingsAreLookingUp🏀
@JraanBrooks J'Raan Brooks
https://247sports.com/Player/JRaan-Brooks-86004
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/j-raan-brooks-588
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@NYPost_Brazille:
His cousin played at Iowa State with Abdelmassih #sjubb
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/11/02/jraan-brooks-hosts-suitors-will-visit-cal/
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Per Rivals.....
Contenders: Arizona State, California, Connecticut, Georgetown, St. John’s, Stanford, Washington
Favorite: None.
Chances of signing early: 15%
Brooks is another whose initial commitment – to USC – was rescinded in the wake of the college hoops corruption scandal. Since opening things up, he’s been on campus at nearby Washington and this weekend he’ll take an official visit to California. For now, this one is wide open and he’s another who we’ll learn much more about throughout the spring.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/how-things-stand-with-the-top-10-available-big-men
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Johnnies has offered.
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Active, mobile big, looks to be plenty capable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrWLkd5SqE
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Visiting the weekend of 12/16-17. Iona game at the Garden is 12/17.
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Visiting the weekend of 12/16-17. Iona game at the Garden is 12/17.
Would be a huge get. With Keita, Roberts and possibly Brooks we would add a ton of much needed depth in the front court.
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Any of our insiders have a feeling regarding our standing with J'raan? I know many have said Jordan is a pipe dream so that'd make Brooks a huge priority in my mind. Frontcourt beef is desperately lacking.
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Any of our insiders have a feeling regarding our standing with J'raan? I know many have said Jordan is a pipe dream so that'd make Brooks a huge priority in my mind. Frontcourt beef is desperately lacking.
Apparently in it with two other schools from out West. Puncher's chance perhaps in my opinion.
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Any of our insiders have a feeling regarding our standing with J'raan? I know many have said Jordan is a pipe dream so that'd make Brooks a huge priority in my mind. Frontcourt beef is desperately lacking.
Apparently in it with two other schools from out West. Puncher's chance perhaps in my opinion.
Thanks paultz. Hopefully "punchers chance" improves after our visit.
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Any of our insiders have a feeling regarding our standing with J'raan? I know many have said Jordan is a pipe dream so that'd make Brooks a huge priority in my mind. Frontcourt beef is desperately lacking.
Apparently in it with two other schools from out West. Puncher's chance perhaps in my opinion.
Thanks paultz. Hopefully "punchers chance" improves after our visit.
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Any of our insiders have a feeling regarding our standing with J'raan? I know many have said Jordan is a pipe dream so that'd make Brooks a huge priority in my mind. Frontcourt beef is desperately lacking.
there are no "insiders" on this board
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Kid looks good. I'm on board.
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Would love to get him. But, he’s not pie in the sky territory like Jordan Brown. His ranking is good, but not great. Hopefully , we would have more than a punchers chance.
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Any of our insiders have a feeling regarding our standing with J'raan? I know many have said Jordan is a pipe dream so that'd make Brooks a huge priority in my mind. Frontcourt beef is desperately lacking.
Apparently in it with two other schools from out West. Puncher's chance perhaps in my opinion.
If the puncher is Ron Lyle or Ernie Shavers I like our chances.
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Any of our insiders have a feeling regarding our standing with J'raan? I know many have said Jordan is a pipe dream so that'd make Brooks a huge priority in my mind. Frontcourt beef is desperately lacking.
there are no "insiders" on this board
Say what!!! Not true, just ask Baldi
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Any of our insiders have a feeling regarding our standing with J'raan? I know many have said Jordan is a pipe dream so that'd make Brooks a huge priority in my mind. Frontcourt beef is desperately lacking.
there are no "insiders" on this board
Say what!!! Not true, just ask Baldi
Hearing there are insiders on this board
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I am still waiting for that Ponds Suspension you told us all about before the year started......
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As far as ranking goes, the kid is ranked as high as top 70.... that’s a great range to recruit in and should be impactful. In addition watch the videos. The kid has good footwork and will be scoring in the post, not hoisting treys which is exactly what we need. Hopefully we can get him to come east...
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I am still waiting for that Ponds Suspension you told us all about before the year started......
Be careful what you ask for junior
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Received a Texas A&M offer today.
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Big SJU visit this weekend
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=jazb3S9YIsg
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I really like this kid. Athletic and lots of nice moves. Would love to land him and our frontcourt is transformed entering next season. Paultz, think we have a real shot here?
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I really like this kid. Athletic and lots of nice moves. Would love to land him and our frontcourt is transformed entering next season. Paultz, think we have a real shot here?
A couple of weeks back I heard he had us in his top 3, so I guess so. Seems more realistic than Jordan Brown, but we'll see. Matt is lead guy for Brooks btw.
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I really like this kid. Athletic and lots of nice moves. Would love to land him and our frontcourt is transformed entering next season. Paultz, think we have a real shot here?
A couple of weeks back I heard he had us in his top 3, so I guess so. Seems more realistic than Jordan Brown, but we'll see. Matt is lead guy for Brooks btw.
Brown is certainly a stud, but Brooks is a highly ranked and skilled kid as well. I’d be just as happy locking this kid up as these are the types we will build around. Brooks seems more of a throwback type PF and really thrives around basket. Scores down low.
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I really like this kid. Athletic and lots of nice moves. Would love to land him and our frontcourt is transformed entering next season. Paultz, think we have a real shot here?
A couple of weeks back I heard he had us in his top 3, so I guess so. Seems more realistic than Jordan Brown, but we'll see. Matt is lead guy for Brooks btw.
Brown is certainly a stud, but Brooks is a highly ranked and skilled kid as well. I’d be just as happy locking this kid up as these are the types we will build around. Brooks seems more of a throwback type PF and really thrives around basket. Scores down low.
He looks like a Q'rran Calhoun type...face-up four. I wouldn't count on him for a traditional PF role.
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Delgado ?
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Delgado ?
No
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/15/former-usc-commit-jraan-brooks-visting-st-johns-official/
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https://twitter.com/JraanBrooks/status/941729781774737408
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/15/former-usc-commit-jraan-brooks-visting-st-johns-official/
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Ranked 87th these are the type recruiting battles we need to start wining.
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I really like this kid. Athletic and lots of nice moves. Would love to land him and our frontcourt is transformed entering next season. Paultz, think we have a real shot here?
A couple of weeks back I heard he had us in his top 3, so I guess so. Seems more realistic than Jordan Brown, but we'll see. Matt is lead guy for Brooks btw.
Brown is certainly a stud, but Brooks is a highly ranked and skilled kid as well. I’d be just as happy locking this kid up as these are the types we will build around. Brooks seems more of a throwback type PF and really thrives around basket. Scores down low.
He looks like a Q'rran Calhoun type...face-up four. I wouldn't count on him for a traditional PF role.
Agree, he also has skills outside and off he dribble. He’s skilled though and looks like he can ear his points inside too. I liked Calhoun a lot.. I think the comparo is a fair one.
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Got a nice soft touch, good low post scorer which is something we sorely need. Good feel for blocking shots and rebounding. Kid looks like a player and a throwback 4. Sign this beast.
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Gotta get him in the fold.
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Any updates as to how the visit went? The weather was not great. Suspect the buzz on campus is minimal with the holidays, finals etc. Hopefully he enjoys the MSG experience including a big win over Iona.
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Sensing an excellent shot.
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Sensing an excellent shot.
Slater and Meyer both predicted Brooks to SJU on their crystal ball yesterday FWIW. Would be a great get
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Sensing an excellent shot.
Slater and Meyer both predicted Brooks to SJU on their crystal ball yesterday FWIW. Would be a great get
Sounds good.
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Sensing an excellent shot.
Slater and Meyer both predicted Brooks to SJU on their crystal ball yesterday FWIW. Would be a great get
Sounds good.
Both are very good signs...
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Nice to hear. Make it so.
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Would be a huge get
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Sensing an excellent shot.
Slater and Meyer both predicted Brooks to SJU on their crystal ball yesterday FWIW. Would be a great get
He may very well commit to us and I sure hope he does but I have noticed that many of these CB picks both in football and basketball go to the school that the prospect just had an official visit with. If he takes another official visit wouldn't be surprised to see that school pick up a few CB predictions. I do realize though that Slater and Meyer are two of the better CB predicts so I hope they are right. These picks as are those of the kids involved are fluid though.
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UConn would love nab a visit from Brooks, as would Washington, but currently, it seems as if Cal and St. John’s might stand in the best position for the four-star senior.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/twitter-tuesday-simons-speculation-matthew-hurt-uconn
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Sounds like Brooks, similar to Brown, may want to wait and see how the season pans out for SJU and others before deciding. Exciting times to be a Johnnies fan again.
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Former USC commit J'Raan Brooks has committed to St. John's, per a source. Top-75 player in 2018 class. Huge get for Chris Mullin. #SJUBB
Per Jon Rothstein.
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https://twitter.com/jraanbrooks/status/945107292353163265
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Nice pickup!
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Wow, nice to hear!
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BOOM !!!!!
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Merry Christmas indeed...
Tremendous pick up.
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what a huge pickup!!
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Just when you least expect it and BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
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Great work by the staff. 6 new players in fol next year and 4 of them have legitimate size. Welcome J’raan
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Heck yeah! I felt good about our chances, but didn't think he"d make the call so soon.
This is a solid pickup, and a kid who likely can help us right outta the gate.
Good job by the staff, and much luck to J'Raan!
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Nice pickup. Welcome aboard Mr
Brooks!
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Great get!
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Nice Christmas present. Welcome!
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Huge get. If we have most of this years roster back we will have a deep and very talented roster with these additions. Brooks willl be a huge part of it. A legit big who can score down low and mid range. We are missing that right now. Welcome!
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Getting a commit like this is huge for the program.
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https://twitter.com/nwballersbb/status/945148623888642048
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Terrific pickup.
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Great job by Matt and the staff closing the deal on this one so quickly
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Huge get!
Side note...Nice job by Matt A for finally balancing out the roster!
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Great pickup! All signs pointing up for this team and program. Nice job by staff.
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Best Christmas ever
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Corey Evans
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St John's has landed the commitment of top-75 forward J'Raan Brooks. Tremendous pull for the Red Storm. One of the most polished forwards in high school ball
I like the last sentence. He also seems to have good footwork, per a few clips I watched earlier.
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Great job by the staff. Well rounded player with size. Just what we need.
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Great job by the staff! Welcome aboard J'Raan!!!!
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Fantastic pickup!! Love this one!
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Great job! Welcome aboard J'Raan!
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Wow! This is some Christmas present. Thank you Matt A and the people who brought this difference maker to St Johns. Welcome J'Raan!
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Merry Christmas to St.John’s! Welcome aboard! Sounds like he will play a lot.
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Welcome J'Raan.... Great job by the staff
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Christmas present is right. West Coast player. Early commitment. Nice job by the staff (especially Matt).Don't think we are done but have to see what else happens.
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Nice full class. Feels like a different program.
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Setting up to be a nice front court next year, Clark, Brooks, Roberts and TO
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Nice full class. Feels like a different program.
It's almost like there's a balanced roster. Six upperclassmen, seven underclassmen, six guards, eight forwards.
SR
Clark
Owens
Yakwe
JR
Ponds
Lovett
Simon
SO
Dixon
Trimble
Keita
FR
Brooks
Williams
Roberts
Diakite
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Not being a kill joy but can see Yakwe leaving for sr year
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Nice balanced squad with some bigs who should be able to score. If Ponds and Lovett hang around this looks like an easy top 20 team.
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Nice full class. Feels like a different program.
It's almost like there's a balanced roster. Six upperclassmen, seven underclassmen, six guards, eight forwards.
SR
Clark
Owens
Yakwe
JR
Ponds
Lovett
Simon
SO
Dixon
Trimble
Keita
FR
Brooks
Williams
Roberts
Diakite
It is always what they’ve said they wanted to do. People just thought it should have been done in one season which would have been impossible. Two things people thought weren’t possible, balanced recruiting and defense. That and a coach who actually wants to be here...
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https://twitter.com/nwballersbb/status/945148623888642048
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Not being a kill joy but can see Yakwe leaving for sr year
Why would he transfer and sit out? He could contribute as a senior on a tournament team and play another year as a grad transfer at a school of his choosing.
I'm looking forward to the day when this program is not so hapless that its fans look for the black lining in every silver cloud. Well sure the roster's balanced but <this unpleasant thing might happen> ... Not because I resent the opinion, but because what it will say about the state of the program. Nova fans, Creighton fans, Xavier fans, and dare I say dewk fans, Kansas fans, Kentucky fans, whoever fans, they don't see every event as the equivalent of the Titanic hitting an iceberg. They see minor blips on an upward trajectory. SJU fans are conditioned to see everything as a disaster. Whereas I think the landscape is shifting: I think the staff knows what it's doing. I think there's a plan and it's coming together. I think all aboard.
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Nice full class. Feels like a different program.
It's almost like there's a balanced roster. Six upperclassmen, seven underclassmen, six guards, eight forwards.
SR
Clark
Owens
Yakwe
JR
Ponds
Lovett
Simon
SO
Dixon
Trimble
Keita
FR
Brooks
Williams
Roberts
Diakite
It is always what they’ve said they wanted to do. People just thought it should have been done in one season which would have been impossible. Two things people thought weren’t possible, balanced recruiting and defense. That and a coach who actually wants to be here...
Norm wanted to be here but was way over his head. Lavin wanted to be somewhere but was too scared of looking the fool to try to succeed here. Chris Mullins wants to be here and wants to win and has not demonstrated that he knows how to lose. I might have had too much egg nog - which is what you drink if you want to get a little drunk but also want pancakes - but I think worm is turned.
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Yakwe is in year # 3 currently....only has one more year left of playing eligibility
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Not being a kill joy but can see Yakwe leaving for sr year
Why would he transfer and sit out? He could contribute as a senior on a tournament team and play another year as a grad transfer at a school of his choosing.
I'm looking forward to the day when this program is not so hapless that its fans look for the black lining in every silver cloud. Well sure the roster's balanced but <this unpleasant thing might happen> ... Not because I resent the opinion, but because what it will say about the state of the program. Nova fans, Creighton fans, Xavier fans, and dare I say dewk fans, Kansas fans, Kentucky fans, whoever fans, they don't see every event as the equivalent of the Titanic hitting an iceberg. They see minor blips on an upward trajectory. SJU fans are conditioned to see everything as a disaster. Whereas I think the landscape is shifting: I think the staff knows what it's doing. I think there's a plan and it's coming together. I think all aboard.
He only has one year of eligibility left after this season.
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Looks like a kid that can make a play out of the low post with his back to the basket, something we haven't had in a very long time. Sould make life much easier for the guards
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He only has one year of eligibility left after this season.
Thanks, I stand corrected. So the roster isn't balanced, Yakwe's gone, Mulliins doesn't know what he''s doing and the sky is falling. Merry xmas.
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He only has one year of eligibility left after this season.
Thanks, I stand corrected. So the roster isn't balanced, Yakwe's gone, Mulliins doesn't know what he''s doing and the sky is falling. Merry xmas.
How gracious of you to admit when you are wrong even thought the posters who pointed out your mistake were as gentle as possible. But hey maybe Foad is right, even if he uses up 4 years of eligibility if he graduates and transfers is he not a grad transfer? ??? :-\ ::)
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Not being a kill joy but can see Yakwe leaving for sr year
That would be silly. Freshman bigs need a few years of seasoning and we will only have Owens, Clark, and Keita as experienced bigs. Two of them can't play 25 mpg due to foul trouble while the other is unproven.
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Not being a kill joy but can see Yakwe leaving for sr year
Why would he transfer and sit out? He could contribute as a senior on a tournament team and play another year as a grad transfer at a school of his choosing.
I'm looking forward to the day when this program is not so hapless that its fans look for the black lining in every silver cloud. Well sure the roster's balanced but <this unpleasant thing might happen> ... Not because I resent the opinion, but because what it will say about the state of the program. Nova fans, Creighton fans, Xavier fans, and dare I say dewk fans, Kansas fans, Kentucky fans, whoever fans, they don't see every event as the equivalent of the Titanic hitting an iceberg. They see minor blips on an upward trajectory. SJU fans are conditioned to see everything as a disaster. Whereas I think the landscape is shifting: I think the staff knows what it's doing. I think there's a plan and it's coming together. I think all aboard.
I don’t want him to go, but it’s not insane for a kid who is likely looking at a career overseas to transfer after his junior year. He can sit out a full season from games, but during that same time he can be working on the parts of his game that need improvement, like anything he does with the ball in his hands. Furthermore, and this is the real reason why I think a player who is averaging 2 ppg might transfer to another school: he can get a grad degree from a school like Boston College, the University of Florida or Cal - might be well worth it.
That said, I’m really impressed with his improvement on defense this season. I feel like it’s unfair for anyone to expect him to start playing like Walter Berry. I see a very Donald Emanuel (maybe better) senior season in Red and White for this hard working kid.
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Somewhat good news here, as J'Raan is confirmed NOT to be player 8: https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-cherry-fbi-20171226-story,amp.html
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I don’t want him to go, but it’s not insane for a kid who is likely looking at a career overseas to transfer after his junior year. He can sit out a full season from games, but during that same time he can be working on the parts of his game that need improvement, like anything he does with the ball in his hands. Furthermore, and this is the real reason why I think a player who is averaging 2 ppg might transfer to another school: he can get a grad degree from a school like Boston College, the University of Florida or Cal - might be well worth it.
That said, I’m really impressed with his improvement on defense this season. I feel like it’s unfair for anyone to expect him to start playing like Walter Berry. I see a very Donald Emanuel (maybe better) senior season in Red and White for this hard working kid.
No doubt there are reasons why transferring might benefit a junior and the ones you cite are valid. Despite which I can't think of too many who have. If a junior were looking to improve his game it might make more sense to red shirt or maybe work harder - as opposed to uprooting himself to go somewhere where he's going to play ten more minutes a game for a year. On the other hand maybe he hates his coach and his team mates and he's dating some hewer he cant' stand or maybe he just has wanderlust. He's a teenager from Mali, I'm not going to pretend to have the vaguest idea what he's thinking or how. But unless you (royal) know him personally and he told you hey I'm thinking of transferring, it's all projection: well, if I were Yawke and I was looking at playing 20 minutes a game and players X Y Z were coming in I might transfer, so Yakwe must want to transfer too. Yeah well, if I were Yawke Yakwe'd have a nice 15 foot jump shot and he wouldn't have to worry about playing time and he'd be drowning in so much pussy he'd never want to leave.
Again, it annoys me - as many things do - that the sky is always falling. Just this morning I've read that Lovett's maybe leaving, and then Trimble's going, and if that happens and Yakwe leaves that's about a third of the roster, that kind of leaves the team in a bind, unless maybe Alibewotz has another year of eligibility.
Yakwe is frustrating. His freshman year I thought he was going to be an all BE player. Now I don't even know if he is a BE player. He shows flashes of what he could be in a sea of what he is. I don't care about the points so much but I don't understand zero rebounds in 20 minutes versus St Joe's and three rebounds in his last four games. That's just unacceptable.
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Not being a kill joy but can see Yakwe leaving for sr year
That would be silly. Freshman bigs need a few years of seasoning and we will only have Owens, Clark, and Keita as experienced bigs. Two of them can't play 25 mpg due to foul trouble while the other is unproven.
Another reason I dont see Yakwe leaving is , hes the reason that Diakete is here.
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No offense, Yakwe seems like a nice kid, but I wouldn't be too upset if he transferred. Fact is he isn't very good at basketball.
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No offense, Yakwe seems like a nice kid, but I wouldn't be too upset if he transferred. Fact is he isn't very good at basketball.
This the Norm Roberts strategy that told Cedric Jackson, a guard who has played more NBA minutes than Dwight Hardy and Marcus Hatten. And I think you’re wrong about Yakwe not being good at basketball. He’s not well rounded and he doesn’t have an offensive game, but he has been a good defender this season, and we need someone to come in off the bench and be willing to take a charge. If you’ve played any organized ball you know, those really hurt. Yakwe embraces the opportunity. It doesn’t show up in a box score, but as fans we he’s doing it for the team.
Next season he probably won’t give us more than 4 or 5 points, but he can spend the entire season teaching J’Raan Brooks, Josh Roberts and Boubecar Diakite how to draw a charge.
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No offense, Yakwe seems like a nice kid, but I wouldn't be too upset if he transferred. Fact is he isn't very good at basketball.
This the Norm Roberts strategy that told Cedric Jackson, a guard who has played more NBA minutes than Dwight Hardy and Marcus Hatten. And I think you’re wrong about Yakwe not being good at basketball. He’s not well rounded and he doesn’t have an offensive game, but he has been a good defender this season, and we need someone to come in off the bench and be willing to take a charge. If you’ve played any organized ball you know, those really hurt. Yakwe embraces the opportunity. It doesn’t show up in a box score, but as fans we he’s doing it for the team.
Next season he probably won’t give us more than 4 or 5 points, but he can spend the entire season teaching J’Raan Brooks, Josh Roberts and Boubecar Diakite how to draw a charge.
Agreed. If things pan out, he's a senior leader coming off the bench giving us 15 minutes a game. Grabbing rebounds, taking charges, and providing leadership/mentorship is something those young guys could use.
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This the Norm Roberts strategy that told Cedric Jackson, a guard who has played more NBA minutes than Dwight Hardy and Marcus Hatten.
I know you hate Norm and everything he did was evil and wrong but that's neither true nor fair. Jackson was IIRC Norm's first recruit and Jackson himself said he left because “I was looking for playing time.” Gary Waters said "He wanted to make a difference and have a bigger role. He felt at St. John’s his role would remain the same. Though they wanted him to stay, he knew what I could do for him”.
Jackson shot 12 percent from 3 as a sophomore and 40 percent as a junior; under 50 percent from the FT line as a soph and nearly 70 as a junior. Seems like he looked at his shortcomings pretty honestly and worked hard to get better and transferred somewhere where that hard work would pay off. That's pretty rational thinking for a teenager. As opposed to the irrationality of "who cares about him, he's not very good at basketball" from an alleged adult.
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This the Norm Roberts strategy that told Cedric Jackson, a guard who has played more NBA minutes than Dwight Hardy and Marcus Hatten.
I know you hate Norm and everything he did was evil and wrong but that's neither true nor fair. Jackson was IIRC Norm's first recruit and Jackson himself said he left because “I was looking for playing time.” Gary Waters said "He wanted to make a difference and have a bigger role. He felt at St. John’s his role would remain the same. Though they wanted him to stay, he knew what I could do for him”.
Jackson shot 12 percent from 3 as a sophomore and 40 percent as a junior; under 50 percent from the FT line as a soph and nearly 70 as a junior. Seems like he looked at his shortcomings pretty honestly and worked hard to get better and transferred somewhere where that hard work would pay off. That's pretty rational thinking for a teenager. As opposed to the irrationality of "who cares about him, he's not very good at basketball" from an alleged adult.
Why would Jackson want to leave if his role remained the same? He was the starting 2 guard. Waters doesn’t make any sense.
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This the Norm Roberts strategy that told Cedric Jackson, a guard who has played more NBA minutes than Dwight Hardy and Marcus Hatten.
I know you hate Norm and everything he did was evil and wrong but that's neither true nor fair. Jackson was IIRC Norm's first recruit and Jackson himself said he left because “I was looking for playing time.” Gary Waters said "He wanted to make a difference and have a bigger role. He felt at St. John’s his role would remain the same. Though they wanted him to stay, he knew what I could do for him”.
Jackson shot 12 percent from 3 as a sophomore and 40 percent as a junior; under 50 percent from the FT line as a soph and nearly 70 as a junior. Seems like he looked at his shortcomings pretty honestly and worked hard to get better and transferred somewhere where that hard work would pay off. That's pretty rational thinking for a teenager. As opposed to the irrationality of "who cares about him, he's not very good at basketball" from an alleged adult.
Why would Jackson want to leave if his role remained the same? He was the starting 2 guard. Waters doesn’t make any sense.
Foad makes an excellent point. No sarcasm at all. Cedric Jackson made a great decision for himself and worked hard to become a pro Basketball player as well as a very good college player who got to play in the tournament.
Our own DJ Kennedy came to St. John’s and played major minutes in the big east. He did plenty of losing but gained plenty of experience. DJ May have only played a few games in the NBA but he is enjoying a productive pro career. He could have went elsewhere and been more successful, but like Cleveland state was good for Jackson St. John’s was great for Kennedy.
I am sure if their was a Johnny jungle when Cedric Jackson played their would be many (myself included) who would post that he and others were not good basketball players. I don’t think their is anything wrong with that. This is a basketball site. Discussing someone being good or bad is what you are supposed to do. Opinions are sometimes right and wrong and change. I can’t imagine anyone at the time being upset when Jackson transfered. It was a long time ago
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Why would Jackson want to leave if his role remained the same?
According to Jackson, he left because he wanted more "a bigger role." A bigger role being larger and more important than the same role.
He was the starting 2 guard. Waters doesn’t make any sense.
I don't think that's exactly correct. Hill and Geno played a combined 71 minutes in the backcourt CJ's freshman year. Gray and Hamilton played 27 and 33 respectively. CJ and Ryan Williams split time 45 minutes at the three, 25 to 16. The next year when Hill got hurt Mason Jr played 30 plus minutes and CJ played slightly fewer than as a FR (24). That was the year Derwin Kitchen was declared ineligible (no doubt he'd have have gotten CJ's minutes) and Maybank got hurt. The next year Patterson, Wright and Calhoun all came in, all of whom were allegedly better shooters than CJ.
Which anyway is immaterial, since Jackson himself said why he transferred. Maybe he was lying to make Norm look bad although if Norm was recruiting over him and that pissed Jackson off enough to transfer he'd have no reason not make Norm look bad and neither would Waters for that matter. It might be that everyone's lying and you've sussed out the truth but I don't believe it.
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Nice full class. Feels like a different program.
It's almost like there's a balanced roster. Six upperclassmen, seven underclassmen, six guards, eight forwards.
SR
Clark
Owens
Yakwe
JR
Ponds
Lovett
Simon
SO
Dixon
Trimble
Keita
FR
Brooks
Williams
Roberts
Diakite
It's cliche but true: (outside of 2-3 schools) good programs don't rebuild, they reload. The importance of balance can't be overstated. 4 is the max # of freshman I'm comfortable with and that is eased somewhat by Diakate redshirting and bringing a year of experience with him. Brooks also seems to be skilled enough of a big to contribute 15 mpg out of the gate. That's uncommon for freshman big men. We just need to hold onto Ponds and Lovett for two years if possible.
To add, although you never know how things will shake out, I only see one potential transfer in Trimble and I'd like to see him stay and can think of many reasons why he would want to.
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Why would Jackson want to leave if his role remained the same?
According to Jackson, he left because he wanted more "a bigger role." A bigger role being larger and more important than the same role.
He was the starting 2 guard. Waters doesn’t make any sense.
I don't think that's exactly correct. Hill and Geno played a combined 71 minutes in the backcourt CJ's freshman year. Gray and Hamilton played 27 and 33 respectively. CJ and Ryan Williams split time 45 minutes at the three, 25 to 16. The next year when Hill got hurt Mason Jr played 30 plus minutes and CJ played slightly fewer than as a FR (24). That was the year Derwin Kitchen was declared ineligible (no doubt he'd have have gotten CJ's minutes) and Maybank got hurt. The next year Patterson, Wright and Calhoun all came in, all of whom were allegedly better shooters than CJ.
Which anyway is immaterial, since Jackson himself said why he transferred. Maybe he was lying to make Norm look bad although if Norm was recruiting over him and that pissed Jackson off enough to transfer he'd have no reason not make Norm look bad and neither would Waters for that matter. It might be that everyone's lying and you've sussed out the truth but I don't believe it.
The kid left because he knew the plan was to play other guys. I don’t blame him for leaving. I blame a coach who was too slow to realize what he had on a regular basis. Whether his offense developed or not, Norm should have realized that he needed someone who could stop the ball.
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https://nypost.com/2017/12/30/ncaa-scandal-leads-program-changing-recruit-to-st-johns/
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https://nypost.com/2017/12/30/ncaa-scandal-leads-program-changing-recruit-to-st-johns/
I'm very excited to add Brooks to the class but a four star ranked in the 80s is far from a "program changer." The braziller promotional train keeps a runnin'.
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Maybe. But the program has changed. It's time to tip our caps to Matt and the rest of the staff. The proof is in the pudding, on the court, on the bench and waiting in the wings. NCAA's or NIT this year and look out next year and after. It's been a long, long time. They were/are right to preach trust the process.
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https://nypost.com/2017/12/30/ncaa-scandal-leads-program-changing-recruit-to-st-johns/
I'm very excited to add Brooks to the class but a four star ranked in the 80s is far from a "program changer." The braziller promotional train keeps a runnin'.
By now we should all be aware that a program changer is never going to be one player. From Lopez to Artest to Barkley to Cook to Hatten to Burrell to Harkless we’ve seen that it’s the culture of a program and the identity of a program that will finally change it.
When Ben Howland and then Jamie Dixon coached at Pitt they changed the program by changing the way everyone was playing. They went from a team that didn’t bother to defend to a team that you were scared to play. That requires a coach to have a plan.
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The plan is right in front of us. A balanced roster coming. Fewer run outs against us. Team rebounding. Stopping dribble penetration mostly. It's coming. Fewer turnovers.
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https://nypost.com/2017/12/30/ncaa-scandal-leads-program-changing-recruit-to-st-johns/
I'm very excited to add Brooks to the class but a four star ranked in the 80s is far from a "program changer." The braziller promotional train keeps a runnin'.
We just got run out of our own gym with a two top 40 guards and a top 75 forward.
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https://nypost.com/2017/12/30/ncaa-scandal-leads-program-changing-recruit-to-st-johns/
Great job by Matt and the staff and a great get. As for the quote "he'll make 3s if allowed" have you seen us play? Oh, he'll be allowed. Probably even encouraged.
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He really seems like he comes from a great family, just like Greg Williams CM is bringing in high character kids first.
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Even if Lovett leaves after this year (Ponds is going nowhere) the roster is well stacked for next season. Trimble wouldn't be a real loss if he transfers as well. We can make better use of that ship.
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Maybe. But the program has changed. It's time to tip our caps to Matt and the rest of the staff. The proof is in the pudding, on the court, on the bench and waiting in the wings. NCAA's or NIT this year and look out next year and after. It's been a long, long time. They were/are right to preach trust the process.
Everything is in place to take that next step. Now it comes to down to coaching and execution.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/jraan-brooks-at-rancho-mirage-holiday-invitational/vi-BBHSQte?ocid=st
Dude on the other team has a 'fro like Fletch....
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/3d/32/423d326214f0e25b2a5a0cbc8c04f093.jpg)
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/jraan-brooks-at-rancho-mirage-holiday-invitational/vi-BBHSQte?ocid=st
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/jraan-brooks-at-rancho-mirage-holiday-invitational/vi-BBHSQte?ocid=st
Wow, a low post scorer! I do tell!
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https://nypost.com/2017/12/30/ncaa-scandal-leads-program-changing-recruit-to-st-johns/
I'm very excited to add Brooks to the class but a four star ranked in the 80s is far from a "program changer." The braziller promotional train keeps a runnin'.
We just got run out of our own gym with a two top 40 guards and a top 75 forward.
U really are a douchebag.
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The plan is right in front of us. A balanced roster coming. Fewer run outs against us. Team rebounding. Stopping dribble penetration mostly. It's coming. Fewer turnovers.
Better believe it... we will be top 25 to start season... take it to the bank actual fans of the program..... the rest of u frauds can go....😎
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The plan is right in front of us. A balanced roster coming. Fewer run outs against us. Team rebounding. Stopping dribble penetration mostly. It's coming. Fewer turnovers.
Better believe it... we will be top 25 to start season... take it to the bank actual fans of the program..... the rest of u frauds can go....😎
I'll have what she's having . . . .
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The plan is right in front of us. A balanced roster coming. Fewer run outs against us. Team rebounding. Stopping dribble penetration mostly. It's coming. Fewer turnovers.
Better believe it... we will be top 25 to start season... take it to the bank actual fans of the program..... the rest of u frauds can go....😎
Actual fans? This is St.John’s. No one gives a shit about this cess pool except for the 35 people here who continue to sign up for this garbage.
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The plan is right in front of us. A balanced roster coming. Fewer run outs against us. Team rebounding. Stopping dribble penetration mostly. It's coming. Fewer turnovers.
Better believe it... we will be top 25 to start season... take it to the bank actual fans of the program..... the rest of u frauds can go....😎
I'll have what she's having . . . .
It costs about 100 a gram and needs to be plunged directly into your veins
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https://scorebooklive.com/basketball/teams/115433-garfield-bulldogs/players/250717-jraan-brooks
Is this kid the real deal? Stats look pretty lackluster
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https://scorebooklive.com/basketball/teams/115433-garfield-bulldogs/players/250717-jraan-brooks
Is this kid the real deal? Stats look pretty lackluster
Not familliar with that site but high school stats online are not the most trustworthy.
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https://scorebooklive.com/basketball/teams/115433-garfield-bulldogs/players/250717-jraan-brooks
Is this kid the real deal? Stats look pretty lackluster
Not familliar with that site but high school stats online are not the most trustworthy.
Concur.
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Video highlights he looks like the real deal. Think he plays for a very good team so scoring may be balanced. I just hope he signs on the first day of the signing period in April.
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Video highlights he looks like the real deal. Think he plays for a very good team so scoring may be balanced. I just hope he signs on the first day of the signing period in April.
Gee, I can’t imagine why he wouldn’t want to come here.
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https://scorebooklive.com/basketball/teams/115433-garfield-bulldogs/players/250717-jraan-brooks
Is this kid the real deal? Stats look pretty lackluster
The kid is legit. I wouldn't get too caught up on stats. In HS they can be very misleading pro or con. Watch his highlight videos. Seattle has a good prep hoops scene. Also his AAU team played big time comp and he played really well. Kid's good.
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He is on every top 100 list out there, albeit in the bottom quadrant. So he obviously has either the skills or potential experts look for. The only two concerns are was he caught up in the adidas situation that preceded his decommit from USC and can the staff get the most out of him to achieve this potential if he gets to campus.
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Xavier
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Xavier
Cunt
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Xavier
What? This is a rumor?
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Xavier
Cunt
Wow guess you were at today's woman's march.
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Xavier
What? This is a rumor?
No, Baldi just throws spaghetti against the wall, hoping something will stick.
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Xavier
What? This is a rumor?
Word on the street
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Xavier
What? This is a rumor?
Word on the street
Did you log out, to ask yourself a question, then log back in to answer?
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Xavier
What? This is a rumor?
Word on the street
Did you log out, to ask yourself a question, then log back in to answer?
I'm sure he'll come. Future looks bright
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Xavier
What? This is a rumor?
Word on the street
Did you log out, to ask yourself a question, then log back in to answer?
I'm sure he'll come. Future looks bright
Try not relish in the losses so much, positing rumors like this. It's not very becoming.... and it's why everyone thinks you are vile.
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Xavier
What? This is a rumor?
Word on the street
Did you log out, to ask yourself a question, then log back in to answer?
I'm sure he'll come. Future looks bright
Try not relish in the losses so much, positing rumors like this. It's not very becoming.... and it's why everyone thinks you are vile.
I'm not one of the people calling for Mullin's head
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Xavier
What? This is a rumor?
Word on the street
Did you log out, to ask yourself a question, then log back in to answer?
I'm sure he'll come. Future looks bright
Try not relish in the losses so much, positing rumors like this. It's not very becoming.... and it's why everyone thinks you are vile.
I'm not one of the people calling for Mullin's head
A complete non sequitur...And seriously Dave needs to seriously think about stepping in on some of this nonsense....
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Xavier
Cunt
Wow guess you were at today's woman's march.
You mean our bus ride home?
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Take that to mean Rice in Matt and Brooks still on board.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
I guess that means Mike Rice is in as of now?
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
I guess that means Mike Rice is in as of now?
Nah, just noting Matt is not going anywhere in my opinion. Brooks, I would state the obvious, he is not a signed commitment at this point & that's always a risk.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
Supposedly another core player is on the outs. Graduate transfer
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His Mom stopped referencing us for a while on Twitter, but he has been liking St. John's tweets up until yesterday. We need clarification here ASAP.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
If Matt goes, then Brooks likely heads elsewhere. As, Paultz stated.... Brooks never signed as he committed after the early signing deadline. So, there was or is always the chance he could renege on his commitment (with or without Matt on the Johnnies' sideline).
I'd love to nab Mike Rice as an assistant, as I think he'd be a valuable coach on the sidelines. We blew an opportunity to bring him in for this season. But, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
Supposedly another core player is on the outs. Graduate transfer
Id hate to loose Owens and Brooks, we can’t afford to take a hit on our front line.
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His Mom stopped referencing us for a while on Twitter, but he has been liking St. John's tweets up until yesterday. We need clarification here ASAP.
Staff can only try to keep the commitment, not easy under recent circumstances. We'll see soon enough I guess.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
Supposedly another core player is on the outs. Graduate transfer
Id hate to loose Owens and Brooks, we can’t afford to take a hit on our front line.
Wasn't talking about Owens, not in this post anyway
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
Supposedly another core player is on the outs. Graduate transfer
That could potentially happen. If anyone has been paying attention lately to Owens' dad stuff, then you almost expect it to happen. It'd be unfortunate, but we'll just have to press on.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
Supposedly another core player is on the outs. Graduate transfer
Id hate to loose Owens and Brooks, we can’t afford to take a hit on our front line.
Wasn't talking about Owens, not in this post anyway
That means Clark , he will be a senior. That is the problem w transfers, they can bolt their senior year wo sitting out. Clark seems to like SJU.
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How come where always trying to figure out what players are leaving, whose coming. Maybe the players we have now and our recruits want to come to or stay at st. john's because they like it.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
Supposedly another core player is on the outs. Graduate transfer
Id hate to loose Owens and Brooks, we can’t afford to take a hit on our front line.
Wasn't talking about Owens, not in this post anyway
That means Clark , he will be a senior. That is the problem w transfers, they can bolt their senior year wo sitting out. Clark seems to like SJU.
Not a big loss
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Not sure how anyone can say its "Not a big loss" Kid can shoot, he is valuable to stretch floor. We are losing kids left and right, good or bad, but each could fill a role.
The more that leave and the less that come, is one day closer to Mullin getting Sh*t Canned and I can not wait.
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Not sure how anyone can say its "Not a big loss" Kid can shoot, he is valuable to stretch floor. We are losing kids left and right, good or bad, but each could fill a role.
The more that leave and the less that come, is one day closer to Mullin getting Sh*t Canned and I can not wait.
Team is in last place. Whoever wants to leave, please go. Rebuild.
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Not sure how anyone can say its "Not a big loss" Kid can shoot, he is valuable to stretch floor. We are losing kids left and right, good or bad, but each could fill a role.
The more that leave and the less that come, is one day closer to Mullin getting Sh*t Canned and I can not wait.
Team is in last place. Whoever wants to leave, please go. Rebuild.
You wanted Mussini gone two years ago?
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We blew an opportunity to bring him in for this season. But, I'll believe it when I see it.
When you don't have funds available to pay someone, there is nothing to be done
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
So Brooks is/was coming to SJU because of Matt A? the Matt A who doesn't do any coaching? That Matt A?
You are so profoundly full of shit, your toilet must fuvking hate you!!!
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Not sure how anyone can say its "Not a big loss" Kid can shoot, he is valuable to stretch floor. We are losing kids left and right, good or bad, but each could fill a role.
The more that leave and the less that come, is one day closer to Mullin getting Sh*t Canned and I can not wait.
Team is in last place. Whoever wants to leave, please go. Rebuild.
The way I see it, Mullin rolls the ball out and says “go play guys” I would rather have a guy who will do that for 2 years in a shit system, than play with no one next year cause the replacement can’t play till 2020.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
So Brooks is/was coming to SJU because of Matt A? the Matt A who doesn't do any coaching? That Matt A?
You are so profoundly full of shit, your toilet must fuvking hate you!!!
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
So Brooks is/was coming to SJU because of Matt A? the Matt A who doesn't do any coaching? That Matt A?
You are so profoundly full of shit, your toilet must fuvking hate you!!!
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Word on the street
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
So Brooks is/was coming to SJU because of Matt A? the Matt A who doesn't do any coaching? That Matt A?
You are so profoundly full of shit, your toilet must fuvking hate you!!!
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Xavier
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
So Brooks is/was coming to SJU because of Matt A? the Matt A who doesn't do any coaching? That Matt A?
You are so profoundly full of shit, your toilet must fuvking hate you!!!
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Xavier
bingo
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We need Brooks. Clark leaving makes little sense. Where else is he going to be allowed to play on the perimeter so much and get all those minutes? Owens seems more likely. I'd make both Owens and Clark captains with Yakwe.
A coach leaving now after an o for the season would be career suicide when the team comes back and wins 7-12 conference games next year. We need Matt.
I think we can absorb 3 defections so long as one of them isn't Ponds and we can add a high school 3* PG and a 5th year transfer.
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Baldi, Congrats. They fall for it every time.
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At this point, it is widely known by coaches , Mullin is not going to make it and would not Look down upon a guy like matty A leaving.
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We need Brooks. Clark leaving makes little sense. Where else is he going to be allowed to play on the perimeter so much and get all those minutes? Owens seems more likely. I'd make both Owens and Clark captains with Yakwe.
A coach leaving now after an o for the season would be career suicide when the team comes back and wins 7-12 conference games next year. We need Matt.
I think we can absorb 3 defections so long as one of them isn't Ponds and we can add a high school 3* PG and a 5th year transfer.
Absorb 3 defections from this team and still win between 22- 25 games?
A 3 star PG is a good idea- how many are good as freshman?
Matt - on one hand him being here is absurd, he has nothing to do with basketball. On the other hand, he is the only one called coach some what capable at something
Someone suggested earlier today an extention- cant make this shit up
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If any of this is true...we MUST BOLT from the Big East. The embarrassments and the inflated expectations are ludicrous already.
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Cant see Matt being let go. Mullin choose him over Barry for a reason.
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If any of this is true...we MUST BOLT from the Big East. The embarrassments and the inflated expectations are ludicrous already.
This is not a star wars movie, where only a jedi knight can save the world. This is real life just hire a basketball coach. Kevin Williard is amazing? I dont think so. But I think he competent. Seton Hall is not a better job then St. Johns. They have issues also. I really like Ed Cooley. He is not a basketball genius. Just a coach. St. Johns should and could be better job then the providence job. Some of you are unreal
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Cant see Matt being let go. Mullin choose him over Barry for a reason.
And the team is 0 for
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So we aren't even going to get a guy that has already committed to us yet we think we have a chance with guys like Precious Achiuwa, Igiehon, and Cockburn?
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So we aren't even going to get a guy that has already committed to us yet we think we have a chance with guys like Precious Achiuwa, Igiehon, and Cockburn?
Mike Rice well connected in Jersey
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As much as I disagree with Baldi he makes sense here. If Matt is getting canned ( which he should BTW) then I wouldn’t blame Brooks for leaving at all. It was because of Matt relationship with his cousin that we even got in with him. He’s a four star rated in the 80’s and as much as I attack Mullin he has three other four star players coming in ( Boubacar, Greg Williams and Sedee Keita). With Mike Rice, you have a way better chance of re-entering the NYC and NJ talent market.. this is what Mullin promised he would do ( Shamorie is the key to this).
Now about Clarke leaving..........Okay.... we’ll move on. I’ve been told from trainers on the team that Keita looks great during practice and he’s just physically more imposing. Add the fact he does the same exact thing as Clarke, it’s not a monumental loss.
With Dixon, Williams, Ponds and Simon, the three guard system that had us playing well earlier in the season is still intact.
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Now about Clarke leaving..........Okay.... we’ll move on. I’ve been told from trainers on the team that Keita looks great during practice and he’s just physically more imposing. Add the fact he does the same exact thing as Clarke, it’s not a monumental loss.
Keita and Clark are about as close as you can get to being the exact opposite of one another as far as what they do on the court
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Now about Clarke leaving..........Okay.... we’ll move on. I’ve been told from trainers on the team that Keita looks great during practice and he’s just physically more imposing. Add the fact he does the same exact thing as Clarke, it’s not a monumental loss.
Keita and Clark are about as close as you can get to being the exact opposite of one another as far as what they do on the court
Thank God for that
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So we aren't even going to get a guy that has already committed to us yet we think we have a chance with guys like Precious Achiuwa, Igiehon, and Cockburn?
Matt relies on transfers and out of state kids for his recruiting. I suspect all local recruits are being personally handled by Mullin and Richmond. Mike rice adds Jersey massive amount of talent to the table.
You guys wanted Tri-State area talent on the team. Well, it seems Mullin is going all in with that.
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Now about Clarke leaving..........Okay.... we’ll move on. I’ve been told from trainers on the team that Keita looks great during practice and he’s just physically more imposing. Add the fact he does the same exact thing as Clarke, it’s not a monumental loss.
Keita and Clark are about as close as you can get to being the exact opposite of one another as far as what they do on the court
Not true at all. Keita has been working on his ability to stretch the floor all year and is showing great progress. Clarke wants to run and shoot, keita does the same exact thing. Clarke is a way better shooter, but Keita bangs down low more.
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SJU has a 12 game losing streak in the regular season(dated to last year). SJU has an inept staff who can not develop players and coach. To say "its ok" for any player to leave is absurd because no one is coming in that is better at this point. SJU has lost 7 kids in the last 2 years, a big reason why they are in this mess. If Matty A goes, then the whole staff can go. Unless there is something terrible that is truly dividing Matt from Mullin, he should not go and you keep Brooks. SJU needs quality players, plain and simple.
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We need Brooks. Clark leaving makes little sense. Where else is he going to be allowed to play on the perimeter so much and get all those minutes? Owens seems more likely. I'd make both Owens and Clark captains with Yakwe.
A coach leaving now after an o for the season would be career suicide when the team comes back and wins 7-12 conference games next year. We need Matt.
I think we can absorb 3 defections so long as one of them isn't Ponds and we can add a high school 3* PG and a 5th year transfer.
Absorb 3 defections from this team and still win between 22- 25 games?
A 3 star PG is a good idea- how many are good as freshman?
Matt - on one hand him being here is absurd, he has nothing to do with basketball. On the other hand, he is the only one called coach some what capable at something
Someone suggested earlier today an extention- cant make this shit up
Most guards are ready to play 15 mpg day one. Look at a kid like Rakym Felder at South Carolina last year who was barely a 3* from Brooklyn or Alvarado from Christ the King or a Malik Boothe or Geno Lawrence type (in the appropriate role). That's what we need.
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Anything is possible but there seems to be some broke clock predictions in this thread. Only thing with some merit is that Owens does graduate and I do know of some coaches looking to pouch him but I don't think he's bouncing.
I really don't have a pulse on Brooks.
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So we aren't even going to get a guy that has already committed to us yet we think we have a chance with guys like Precious Achiuwa, Igiehon, and Cockburn?
Matt relies on transfers and out of state kids for his recruiting. I suspect all local recruits are being personally handled by Mullin and Richmond.
lol
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We need Brooks. Clark leaving makes little sense. Where else is he going to be allowed to play on the perimeter so much and get all those minutes? Owens seems more likely. I'd make both Owens and Clark captains with Yakwe.
A coach leaving now after an o for the season would be career suicide when the team comes back and wins 7-12 conference games next year. We need Matt.
I think we can absorb 3 defections so long as one of them isn't Ponds and we can add a high school 3* PG and a 5th year transfer.
Absorb 3 defections from this team and still win between 22- 25 games?
A 3 star PG is a good idea- how many are good as freshman?
Matt - on one hand him being here is absurd, he has nothing to do with basketball. On the other hand, he is the only one called coach some what capable at something
Someone suggested earlier today an extention- cant make this shit up
Most guards are ready to play 15 mpg day one. Look at a kid like Rakym Felder at South Carolina last year who was barely a 3* from Brooklyn or Alvarado from Christ the King or a Malik Boothe or Geno Lawrence type (in the appropriate role). That's what we need.
We should have the kid from Christ the king. He would have been good. Don’t know the other guy. We could use either boothe or geno type because we have nothing. Not because they are so useful. I agree with some of what you say, after I understand better.
But you can’t lose players every year. No one graduates. They just leave. I don’t know how you could have any faith in this mess of a coaching staff. If we lose this kid and either ponds or Owens. 10th place again
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
I don't mean using all 13 ships by full roster. 11-12 good scholarship players and a few solid prederred walkons meets that criteria for me. Certainly more than 7 with one being a waste like AA.
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Now about Clarke leaving..........Okay.... we’ll move on. I’ve been told from trainers on the team that Keita looks great during practice and he’s just physically more imposing. Add the fact he does the same exact thing as Clarke, it’s not a monumental loss.
Keita and Clark are about as close as you can get to being the exact opposite of one another as far as what they do on the court
Not true at all. Keita has been working on his ability to stretch the floor all year and is showing great progress. Clarke wants to run and shoot, keita does the same exact thing. Clarke is a way better shooter, but Keita bangs down low more.
If Keita touches the ball anywhere outside of the paint it is a bad thing for us and a good thing for the defense. If Clark touches the ball in the paint it is a bad thing for us and a good thing for the defense
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
I don't mean using all 13 ships by full roster. 11-12 good scholarship players and a few solid prederred walkons meets that criteria for me. Certainly more than 7 with one being a waste like AA.
My point, you can’t recuit to this mess. 3 years ago it was Chris Mullin hall of famer. Do you think ponds would come here again if he could take a mulligan? Do you think the next ponds wants play for this coach? Would you?
The only player that stayed was Amar, besides never getting better he tried to leave also.
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If Paultz is being honest.. which I don't know why he wouldn't be.. and 1 of the 3 were going to happen then Brooks leaving because of Matty A leaving makes no sense because that'd be two. Realistically Brooks decommiting is the only answer that makes sense. Matt just got paid last year, and leaving now would hurt his credibility elsewhere. Brooks has already decommited from one school, were in the middle of a full scale self-destruct this season, and we are literally on the other side of the country; not a good look. And in regards to the situation with Rice, this rumor has been floating around for a while now and we clearly need another coach so it just fits and makes sense. (Note the sudden interest in NJ players as well including Marcellus Earlington who Paultz told us today the staff was looking at.
As it stands the answer to the Paultz-gorithm is:
Brooks is gone (for the time being, recruiting changes daily)
Matt is staying and buying a few new suits for the new season
Mike Rice is coming on board
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If Paultz is being honest.. which I don't know why he wouldn't be.. and 1 of the 3 were going to happen then Brooks leaving because of Matty A leaving makes no sense because that'd be two. Realistically Brooks decommiting is the only answer that makes sense. Matt just got paid last year, and leaving now would hurt his credibility elsewhere. Brooks has already decommited from one school, were in the middle of a full scale self-destruct this season, and we are literally on the other side of the country; not a good look. And in regards to the situation with Rice, this rumor has been floating around for a while now and we clearly need another coach so it just fits and makes sense. (Note the sudden interest in NJ players as well including Marcellus Earlington who Paultz told us today the staff was looking at.
As it stands the answer to the Paultz-gorithm is:
Brooks is gone (for the time being, recruiting changes daily)
Matt is staying and buying a few new suits for the new season
Mike Rice is coming on board
Makes sense from what Paultz wrote. I would tale it. W Matt and Rice you would have 2 recruiters, which is what we need , plus the experience of Rice.
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If Paultz is being honest.. which I don't know why he wouldn't be.. and 1 of the 3 were going to happen then Brooks leaving because of Matty A leaving makes no sense because that'd be two. Realistically Brooks decommiting is the only answer that makes sense.
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As it stands the answer to the Paultz-gorithm is:
Brooks is gone (for the time being, recruiting changes daily)
Matt is staying and buying a few new suits for the new season
Mike Rice is coming on board
No. You contradict yourself.
The magic 8-baldi said: Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
P-man said : 1/3 there Baldi it seems.
So if P-man is correct in saying that the magic eight-baldi is one third right (which is higher than his usual percentage) one of these three things is happening
Brooks gone
Matt gone
Rice in
Your answer, Brooks is gone, Mike Rice is coming, is two things.
I don't know what the answer is but P-man has said within recent memory both that Brooks is not gone and that Rice is not coming. That leaves one answer. Make of it what you will.
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If Matt is getting canned ( which he should BTW) then I wouldn’t blame Brooks for leaving at all. It was because of Matt relationship with his cousin that we even got in with him. He’s a four star rated in the 80’s and as much as I attack Mullin he has three other four star players coming in ( Boubacar, Greg Williams and Sedee Keita).
With all that said, explain to me why matt should be canned?
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If Matt is getting canned ( which he should BTW) then I wouldn’t blame Brooks for leaving at all. It was because of Matt relationship with his cousin that we even got in with him. He’s a four star rated in the 80’s and as much as I attack Mullin he has three other four star players coming in ( Boubacar, Greg Williams and Sedee Keita).
With all that said, explain to me why matt should be canned?
If Paultz is being honest.. which I don't know why he wouldn't be.. and 1 of the 3 were going to happen then Brooks leaving because of Matty A leaving makes no sense because that'd be two. Realistically Brooks decommiting is the only answer that makes sense.
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As it stands the answer to the Paultz-gorithm is:
Brooks is gone (for the time being, recruiting changes daily)
Matt is staying and buying a few new suits for the new season
Mike Rice is coming on board
No. You contradict yourself.
The magic 8-baldi said: Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
P-man said : 1/3 there Baldi it seems.
So if P-man is correct in saying that the magic eight-baldi is one third right (which is higher than his usual percentage) one of these three things is happening
Brooks gone
Matt gone
Rice in
Your answer, Brooks is gone, Mike Rice is coming, is two things.
I don't know what the answer is but P-man has said within recent memory both that Brooks is not gone and that Rice is not coming. That leaves one answer. Make of it what you will.
In response to someone posting Brooks Is gone because Matt is gone Paultz said not true which sounds like Matt not gone either so we're back to square one. That's quite a riddle Baldi has everyone trying to solve. LOL.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
1/3 there Baldi it seems.
Sense that Brooks is out. Mike rice in ?
Brooks is gone because Matt Is gone once the season ends
Anything is possible, but as of now not true.
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think if Matt goes, so does Brooks? Of all our recruits, he’s the one I really wanted. But if we don’t loose any core players we will be ok, probably a net gain If what Baldi says is true.
Supposedly another core player is on the outs. Graduate transfer
Id hate to loose Owens and Brooks, we can’t afford to take a hit on our front line.
If they go, we could be really bad next year. Everyone should just relax. Try to enjoy the season and the players we have now. Isn’t that what we used to say back in the day in regards to Erick Barkley and Ron Artest?
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
I don't mean using all 13 ships by full roster. 11-12 good scholarship players and a few solid prederred walkons meets that criteria for me. Certainly more than 7 with one being a waste like AA.
My point, you can’t recuit to this mess. 3 years ago it was Chris Mullin hall of famer. Do you think ponds would come here again if he could take a mulligan? Do you think the next ponds wants play for this coach? Would you?
The only player that stayed was Amar, besides never getting better he tried to leave also.
Ponds has to be thrilled with his role and exposure. Where else does a 6'1 combo ranked #46 out of high school get himself into mock drafts in November or his soph year? Do you think Fultz regrets going to a single-digit win team in Washington? How many programs would have given him 30 minutes at PG this early?
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
I don't mean using all 13 ships by full roster. 11-12 good scholarship players and a few solid prederred walkons meets that criteria for me. Certainly more than 7 with one being a waste like AA.
My point, you can’t recuit to this mess. 3 years ago it was Chris Mullin hall of famer. Do you think ponds would come here again if he could take a mulligan? Do you think the next ponds wants play for this coach? Would you?
The only player that stayed was Amar, besides never getting better he tried to leave also.
Ponds has to be thrilled with his role and exposure. Where else does a 6'1 combo ranked #46 out of high school get himself into mock drafts in November or his soph year? Do you think Fultz regrets going to a single-digit win team in Washington? How many programs would have given him 30 minutes at PG this early?
Ponds was ranked #36 overall. Nevertheless, I can only chuckle at most of this thread.
No offense to Baldi, but pay attention to what Paultz had to say on this thread.
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Big Baller Brand
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
I don't mean using all 13 ships by full roster. 11-12 good scholarship players and a few solid prederred walkons meets that criteria for me. Certainly more than 7 with one being a waste like AA.
My point, you can’t recuit to this mess. 3 years ago it was Chris Mullin hall of famer. Do you think ponds would come here again if he could take a mulligan? Do you think the next ponds wants play for this coach? Would you?
The only player that stayed was Amar, besides never getting better he tried to leave also.
Ponds has to be thrilled with his role and exposure. Where else does a 6'1 combo ranked #46 out of high school get himself into mock drafts in November or his soph year? Do you think Fultz regrets going to a single-digit win team in Washington? How many programs would have given him 30 minutes at PG this early?
U think ponds is thrilled? I love going to St. John’s games at the garden. I am sitting on the train full of duke fans and I feel sick.
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
I don't mean using all 13 ships by full roster. 11-12 good scholarship players and a few solid prederred walkons meets that criteria for me. Certainly more than 7 with one being a waste like AA.
My point, you can’t recuit to this mess. 3 years ago it was Chris Mullin hall of famer. Do you think ponds would come here again if he could take a mulligan? Do you think the next ponds wants play for this coach? Would you?
The only player that stayed was Amar, besides never getting better he tried to leave also.
Ponds has to be thrilled with his role and exposure. Where else does a 6'1 combo ranked #46 out of high school get himself into mock drafts in November or his soph year? Do you think Fultz regrets going to a single-digit win team in Washington? How many programs would have given him 30 minutes at PG this early?
U think ponds is thrilled? I love going to St. John’s games at the garden. I am sitting on the train full of duke fans and I feel sick.
Imagine how they feel
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
I don't mean using all 13 ships by full roster. 11-12 good scholarship players and a few solid prederred walkons meets that criteria for me. Certainly more than 7 with one being a waste like AA.
My point, you can’t recuit to this mess. 3 years ago it was Chris Mullin hall of famer. Do you think ponds would come here again if he could take a mulligan? Do you think the next ponds wants play for this coach? Would you?
The only player that stayed was Amar, besides never getting better he tried to leave also.
Ponds has to be thrilled with his role and exposure. Where else does a 6'1 combo ranked #46 out of high school get himself into mock drafts in November or his soph year? Do you think Fultz regrets going to a single-digit win team in Washington? How many programs would have given him 30 minutes at PG this early?
U think ponds is thrilled? I love going to St. John’s games at the garden. I am sitting on the train full of duke fans and I feel sick.
Well hopefully Ponds took the team bus and there weren't that many.
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Matt has some annoying qualities and a lot of us don't like what transpired with him and Slice, but getting rid of him makes no sense. We will need his creative recruiting more than ever the next two years. If any coach wants to make it at St. John's, they have to be able to complete a roster. The transfer game is essential for us and Matt has great potential in that area.
Jesus Christ, guys, can we let one staff fill out a roster before we cannabilize our program?
If you have 8 players. 1 quits. You recuit a few more. Atleast one never comes. Then a few more decide to leave. You might never have a full roster.
I don't mean using all 13 ships by full roster. 11-12 good scholarship players and a few solid prederred walkons meets that criteria for me. Certainly more than 7 with one being a waste like AA.
My point, you can’t recuit to this mess. 3 years ago it was Chris Mullin hall of famer. Do you think ponds would come here again if he could take a mulligan? Do you think the next ponds wants play for this coach? Would you?
The only player that stayed was Amar, besides never getting better he tried to leave also.
Ponds has to be thrilled with his role and exposure. Where else does a 6'1 combo ranked #46 out of high school get himself into mock drafts in November or his soph year? Do you think Fultz regrets going to a single-digit win team in Washington? How many programs would have given him 30 minutes at PG this early?
U think ponds is thrilled? I love going to St. John’s games at the garden. I am sitting on the train full of duke fans and I feel sick.
I’m sure it was a pleasurable train ride home.
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Brooks is out, as is Matt A. Mike Rice in
Did Brooks re-commit? What did the magic eight-ball say?
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He has not decommiited. Apparently he & his family watched game today. Hang in there Johnnies!
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He has not decommiited. Apparently he & his family watched game today. Hang in there Johnnies!
Yes, we all know only to trust you. I'm just teasing Baldi because he loves to conjure up inane stuff right when the program has had a rough stretch.
Your word is gospel. We all know it.
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He has not decommiited. Apparently he & his family watched game today. Hang in there Johnnies!
Yes, we all know only to trust you. I'm just teasing Baldi because he loves to conjure up inane stuff right when the program has had a rough stretch.
Your word is gospel. We all know it.
Yes Paultzman is The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler! ;) :)
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He has not decommiited. Apparently he & his family watched game today. Hang in there Johnnies!
Yes, we all know only to trust you. I'm just teasing Baldi because he loves to conjure up inane stuff right when the program has had a rough stretch.
Your word is gospel. We all know it.
Yes Paultzman is The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler! ;) :)
+1 Paultzman has earned it!
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Brooks & mom chime in on win;
Jen Brooks
Jen Brooks
@mama_brooks33
👏🏼👏🏼 #SJUBB Great win today fellas!! #KeepKilling 🏀
JBro™
@JraanBrooks
Congrats to them johnnies 🤟🏽🤟🏽 Took down #4 Duke!
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Brooks & mom chime in on win;
Jen Brooks
Jen Brooks
@mama_brooks33
👏🏼👏🏼 #SJUBB Great win today fellas!! #KeepKilling 🏀
JBro™
@JraanBrooks
Congrats to them johnnies 🤟🏽🤟🏽 Took down #4 Duke!
He and his Mom are liking each of the fan comments as well. Today was so important. I'm wondering what type of impression the game atmosphere created for Scottie Lewis!
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Brooks & mom chime in on win;
Jen Brooks
Jen Brooks
@mama_brooks33
👏🏼👏🏼 #SJUBB Great win today fellas!! #KeepKilling 🏀
JBro™
@JraanBrooks
Congrats to them johnnies 🤟🏽🤟🏽 Took down #4 Duke!
He and his Mom are liking each of the fan comments as well. Today was so important. I'm wondering what type of impression the game atmosphere created for Scottie Lewis!
Don’t get greedy. 😳
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When is Ponds' suspension gonna hit?
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When is Ponds' suspension gonna hit?
Bigger fish to fry
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When is Ponds' suspension gonna hit?
Bigger fish to fry
lol
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Dicey it appears
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Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
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Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Former
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Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Former
I'm going with LSU
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Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Former
I'm going with LSU
Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Former
I'm going with LSU
Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Former
I'm going with LSU
I see what you did there ☺️
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Well, now we know why we are recruiting the football player.
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Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Dicey it appears
Based on him wanting to go somewhere else or him not qualifying?
Former
Probably worried about how much playing time he'll get stuck behind Jordan brown 😉
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Noticed that Brooks and his mom who had been very active and pro-SJU on Twitter had one post referencing the SJU win over Duke and nothing after the Nova win
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Grab Erlington (who I think we'll land) and either a grad or JUCO PF/"big."
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Why would he leave after seeing what’s growing here.
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Grab Erlington (who I think we'll land) and either a grad or JUCO PF/"big."
Whose Erlington.
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Grab Erlington (who I think we'll land) and either a grad or JUCO PF/"big."
Whose Erlington.
Marcellus Earlington. I believe he's at today's game.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2017/12/former_rutgers_national_football_recruit_marcellus.amp
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Going out on a limb and saying this guy isn’t close to what we needed which is Brooks... disappointed here. If he’s RIco Gathers then fine, but we need height up front.
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Going out on a limb and saying this guy isn’t close to what we needed which is Brooks... disappointed here. If he’s RIco Gathers then fine, but we need height up front.
Agree, per Brooks. But our early season conference woes and the Washington Huskies (local school) overachieving didn't help matters.
Maybe, there's a change of heart (though, I'm not banking on it). We're just gonna have to find an alternative, if it doesn't come to pass.
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So this is now the second time he's decomitted in a short period of time? I know the first was related to the scandal, but these guys are far too flaky, why commit when it means nothing
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
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Going out on a limb and saying this guy isn’t close to what we needed which is Brooks... disappointed here. If he’s RIco Gathers then fine, but we need height up front.
Keita and Roberts
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
A "good riddance" post for a top 100 recruit who has committed to us all because one poster posted "shaky" is vintage Johnny Jungle.
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Going out on a limb and saying this guy isn’t close to what we needed which is Brooks... disappointed here. If he’s RIco Gathers then fine, but we need height up front.
Keita and Roberts
Diakte is also 6'8"
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
A "good riddance" post for a top 100 recruit who has committed to us all because one poster posted "shaky" is vintage Johnny Jungle.
Better now then a month before the year, or during the season.
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
A "good riddance" post for a top 100 recruit who has committed to us all because one poster posted "shaky" is vintage Johnny Jungle.
Better now then a month before the year, or during the season.
All of that assumption based on "shaky".
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
A "good riddance" post for a top 100 recruit who has committed to us all because one poster posted "shaky" is vintage Johnny Jungle.
Better now then a month before the year, or during the season.
All of that assumption based on "shaky".
Agree to an extent but my reading of Paultzman's comment was that he is very unlikely to be coming but Paultz wanted to let us all down gently.
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Not one poster, Paultzman. Also no tweet by his mother after the Nova win or today’s game. I am concerned. Let’s hope we finish strong and can keep him. He has a real inside game. I’m not counting on him, however.
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
A "good riddance" post for a top 100 recruit who has committed to us all because one poster posted "shaky" is vintage Johnny Jungle.
Better now then a month before the year, or during the season.
All of that assumption based on "shaky".
Agree to an extent but my reading of Paultzman's comment was that he is very unlikely to be coming but Paultz wanted to let us all down gently.
I don't have any inside knowledge to refute the claim that him coming to campus is doubtful/unlikely/up in the air. My point, however, is that we shouldn't be saying good riddance to a top 100 recruit based on rumor. Who would blame someone having doubts about a program that went 0-11? How many posters on this very board said Mullin should be fired? I'd love for him to come here and would be very disappointed if he isn't, anyone else who wouldn't be is foolish.
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
A "good riddance" post for a top 100 recruit who has committed to us all because one poster posted "shaky" is vintage Johnny Jungle.
Better now then a month before the year, or during the season.
All of that assumption based on "shaky".
Agree to an extent but my reading of Paultzman's comment was that he is very unlikely to be coming but Paultz wanted to let us all down gently.
I don't have any inside knowledge to refute the claim that him coming to campus is doubtful/unlikely/up in the air. My point, however, is that we shouldn't be saying good riddance to a top 100 recruit based on rumor. Who would blame someone having doubts about a program that went 0-11? How many posters on this very board said Mullin should be fired? I'd love for him to come here and would be very disappointed if he isn't, anyone else who wouldn't be is foolish.
Agree
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Just have to hope for the best here. Long long way away from knowing what the roster will look like next year. At this point the only guarantees to be here are Simon, Dixon, Keita, Diakite, Williams, and Roberts. On top of that nobody is guaranteed to be gone other than Ahmed and Amar (and probably Lovett).
Sure, we might lose Brooks, but we might gain somebody that is not even on our radar at this point. Could be via grad transfer or JuCo or whatever. A coach might get fired or leave somewhere forcing a recruit to reconsider his options. Trimble was set to go to FSU and wasn't even on our radar until FSU got a late committment from a 5 star kid at his position and he decided to open up and pop for us.
Let's just hope the staff is able to capitalize on the momentum and buzz around the program has garnered the last 7 days
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
A "good riddance" post for a top 100 recruit who has committed to us all because one poster posted "shaky" is vintage Johnny Jungle.
Better now then a month before the year, or during the season.
All of that assumption based on "shaky".
Agree to an extent but my reading of Paultzman's comment was that he is very unlikely to be coming but Paultz wanted to let us all down gently.
I don't have any inside knowledge to refute the claim that him coming to campus is doubtful/unlikely/up in the air. My point, however, is that we shouldn't be saying good riddance to a top 100 recruit based on rumor. Who would blame someone having doubts about a program that went 0-11? How many posters on this very board said Mullin should be fired? I'd love for him to come here and would be very disappointed if he isn't, anyone else who wouldn't be is foolish.
If he wants to be here I'd love to have him, but how many times have we been left at the altar by recruits? Need some stability can't afford another Sid Wilson situation, or in season departure (basically Lovett) to derail our season. If he doesn't wanna be here onto the next one. Like another poster said there will be opportunities with other recruits not even on our radar right now.
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Let’s hope we retain our core players, anything else is gravy. I’m sure staff is looking for back up options. If we can keep on winning, we will look better to recruits.
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A verbal commitment is meaningless. He should sign a LOI. Once that happens it’s a contract and then he can change his mind all he wants and be told a simple and firm no. Like Sid Wilson should have been told.
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A verbal commitment is meaningless. He should sign a LOI. Once that happens it’s a contract and then he can change his mind all he wants and be told a simple and firm no. Like Sid Wilson should have been told.
Have you ever heard of signing periods?
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A verbal commitment is meaningless. He should sign a LOI. Once that happens it’s a contract and then he can change his mind all he wants and be told a simple and firm no. Like Sid Wilson should have been told.
Have you ever heard of signing periods?
Yes. And at that point you can dance in the streets if you feel like it. Until then their commitment is as serious as that of a 16 year old girl crush.
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Good riddance. Don't want guys coming here who don't really want to be here.... See Sid Wilson.
A "good riddance" post for a top 100 recruit who has committed to us all because one poster posted "shaky" is vintage Johnny Jungle.
Better now then a month before the year, or during the season.
All of that assumption based on "shaky".
Agree to an extent but my reading of Paultzman's comment was that he is very unlikely to be coming but Paultz wanted to let us all down gently.
I don't have any inside knowledge to refute the claim that him coming to campus is doubtful/unlikely/up in the air. My point, however, is that we shouldn't be saying good riddance to a top 100 recruit based on rumor. Who would blame someone having doubts about a program that went 0-11? How many posters on this very board said Mullin should be fired? I'd love for him to come here and would be very disappointed if he isn't, anyone else who wouldn't be is foolish.
If he wants to be here I'd love to have him, but how many times have we been left at the altar by recruits? Need some stability can't afford another Sid Wilson situation, or in season departure (basically Lovett) to derail our season. If he doesn't wanna be here onto the next one. Like another poster said there will be opportunities with other recruits not even on our radar right now.
If an assistant coach in D1 basketball had your mindset, they'd accept almost zero commitments.
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No harm in staff flying out there to see Brooks & family to try to get this back on track. You never know.
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He's worth the extra effort and the coaches can now show him the potential of the program again.
I would not blame a kid who's Top 100 and can play practically everywhere, committed to a program across the country see a team go 0-11 and have second thoughts. Unless you've gone to this school or your parent is an alumnus, it's mindboggling to expect any young person to have loyalty to St. John's or a sense of love for the program. We've basically sucked for the past 17 years.
I can't say I'm hopeful, but there's certainly quite a bit for the staff to tell this kid (i.e. his clear starting role, NYC, the depth of next year's roster, Owens' improvement, and a run in the NCAA being the expectation)
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Is there any money in the budget for one more visit by the staff? Might be a good time to show the family some love...
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Shouldn’t he be blamed for changing his mind? A verbal commitment isn’t a contract, but it’s still your word. If you’re not ready to make a decision all you have to do is shut up.
Plenty of kids pull this crap. Doug Wiggins did it to St.John’s and Moe Harkness did it to Uconn. It’s why I don’t think a school should ever let a kid out of his LOI.
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No harm in staff flying out there to see Brooks & family to try to get this back on track. You never know.
That’s the key question. If they are, then maybe it’s not too far gone
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Have to recruit better in your own back yard.
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He's worth the extra effort and the coaches can now show him the potential of the program again.
I would not blame a kid who's Top 100 and can play practically everywhere, committed to a program across the country see a team go 0-11 and have second thoughts. Unless you've gone to this school or your parent is an alumnus, it's mindboggling to expect any young person to have loyalty to St. John's or a sense of love for the program. We've basically sucked for the past 17 years.
I can't say I'm hopeful, but there's certainly quite a bit for the staff to tell this kid (i.e. his clear starting role, NYC, the depth of next year's roster, Owens' improvement, and a run in the NCAA being the expectation)
If it’s a starting role that is so important to him, let him have it. Tell him he’s a starter. And then when he gets here if he’s not ready to start, or not good enough to start, he won’t.
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He's worth the extra effort and the coaches can now show him the potential of the program again.
I would not blame a kid who's Top 100 and can play practically everywhere, committed to a program across the country see a team go 0-11 and have second thoughts. Unless you've gone to this school or your parent is an alumnus, it's mindboggling to expect any young person to have loyalty to St. John's or a sense of love for the program. We've basically sucked for the past 17 years.
I can't say I'm hopeful, but there's certainly quite a bit for the staff to tell this kid (i.e. his clear starting role, NYC, the depth of next year's roster, Owens' improvement, and a run in the NCAA being the expectation)
Some of you are very negative. We have not sucked for 8 days and counting. Hope this kid comes, but the only recuit or player that matters is Ponds. We need him back.
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Shouldn’t he be blamed for changing his mind? A verbal commitment isn’t a contract, but it’s still your word. If you’re not ready to make a decision all you have to do is shut up.
Plenty of kids pull this crap. Doug Wiggins did it to St.John’s and Moe Harkness did it to Uconn. It’s why I don’t think a school should ever let a kid out of his LOI.
That's not very liberal of you.
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Shouldn’t he be blamed for changing his mind? A verbal commitment isn’t a contract, but it’s still your word. If you’re not ready to make a decision all you have to do is shut up.
Plenty of kids pull this crap. Doug Wiggins did it to St.John’s and Moe Harkness did it to Uconn. It’s why I don’t think a school should ever let a kid out of his LOI.
That's not very liberal of you.
True, he is an undocumented recruit and a dreamer to boot.
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Shouldn’t he be blamed for changing his mind? A verbal commitment isn’t a contract, but it’s still your word. If you’re not ready to make a decision all you have to do is shut up.
Plenty of kids pull this crap. Doug Wiggins did it to St.John’s and Moe Harkness did it to Uconn. It’s why I don’t think a school should ever let a kid out of his LOI.
That's not very liberal of you.
Is this how you want to spend your only day off this week?
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To be fair, his Mom did Like several St. John's related posts on Twitter yesterday.
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Shouldn’t he be blamed for changing his mind? A verbal commitment isn’t a contract, but it’s still your word. If you’re not ready to make a decision all you have to do is shut up.
Plenty of kids pull this crap. Doug Wiggins did it to St.John’s and Moe Harkness did it to Uconn. It’s why I don’t think a school should ever let a kid out of his LOI.
That's not very liberal of you.
Is this how you want to spend your only day off this week?
Calling you out on your bullshit? Hells Yes!
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Shouldn’t he be blamed for changing his mind? A verbal commitment isn’t a contract, but it’s still your word. If you’re not ready to make a decision all you have to do is shut up.
Plenty of kids pull this crap. Doug Wiggins did it to St.John’s and Moe Harkness did it to Uconn. It’s why I don’t think a school should ever let a kid out of his LOI.
That's not very liberal of you.
Is this how you want to spend your only day off this week?
Calling you out on your bullshit? Hells Yes!
Knock yourself out.
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
Here I was thinking how nice personic we are on the boards. These idiots tweeting at the kid and his mom take the cake.
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
Here I was thinking how nice personic we are on the boards. These idiots tweeting at the kid and his mom take the cake.
Take a guess who tweeted directly at Brooks.
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
Here I was thinking how nice personic we are on the boards. These idiots tweeting at the kid and his mom take the cake.
Take a guess who tweeted directly at Brooks.
Mike Hopkins
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
Here I was thinking how nice personic we are on the boards. These idiots tweeting at the kid and his mom take the cake.
Take a guess who tweeted directly at Brooks.
Who runs that account?
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
Here I was thinking how nice personic we are on the boards. These idiots tweeting at the kid and his mom take the cake.
Take a guess who tweeted directly at Brooks.
Who runs that account?
Who runs which account? Mullin's Maniacs?
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
Here I was thinking how nice personic we are on the boards. These idiots tweeting at the kid and his mom take the cake.
Take a guess who tweeted directly at Brooks.
Who runs that account?
Who runs which account? Mullin's Maniacs?
Yeah. Mullin Maniacs.
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
Here I was thinking how nice personic we are on the boards. These idiots tweeting at the kid and his mom take the cake.
Take a guess who tweeted directly at Brooks.
Who runs that account?
Who runs which account? Mullin's Maniacs?
Yeah. Mullin Maniacs.
I believe a handful of dudes came up with the idea, but the one who tweets on the page is someone who likes "medium t-shirts."
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Haha! Some folks are now carrying on on Twitter about Brooks.
Here I was thinking how nice personic we are on the boards. These idiots tweeting at the kid and his mom take the cake.
Take a guess who tweeted directly at Brooks.
Who runs that account?
Who runs which account? Mullin's Maniacs?
Yeah. Mullin Maniacs.
I believe a handful of dudes came up with the idea, but the one who tweets on the page is someone who likes "medium t-shirts."
That guy was funny.
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They need to do some work here to salvage this.
He would hurt a little next year if he bolted.
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They need to do some work here to salvage this.
He would hurt a little next year if he bolted.
Sensing a visit out West very soon.
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They need to do some work here to salvage this.
He would hurt a little next year if he bolted.
Sensing a visit out West very soon.
Excellent, will Matt wear an LSU hat in the trip.
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They need to do some work here to salvage this.
He would hurt a little next year if he bolted.
Sensing a visit out West very soon.
Excellent, will Matt wear an LSU hat in the trip.
Xavier hat. :-)
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Zack reporting he has decomitted
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He apparently just realized St John's wasn't in Seattle.
Excuses.
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Tough loss but if he as having second thoughts I would rather him back out now so we can recruit his replacement. It’s hard for these kids with so many people in their ear. From social media he seems to be very close to his family so maybe he really didn’t want to move across the country. Top 100 bigs are hard to replace but gota move on to the next.
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That hurts a little. Now you know why GSJ went out to Cali, going to be hard but they are going to put in the work to try convince Brown to come 3K miles.
Could really use an impact big.
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Never a dull moment with this program....
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
I agree with you. While I would have loved to have Brooks, given his recent decision...I hope we go grad transfer route.
If we can get a forward / center who can shoot a bit, our roster next year would be dangerous!
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
Although, losing Brooks somewhat stings.... I'm with you, 'mase. I'm not sweating it. Go find a PF/"big" in grad transfer market (and, I mean REALLY find one this time around), and I'd also scour the JUCO ranks (whether, it's for a big or a guard/swingman).
If we can do those things, then it'll minimize on losing Brooks.
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
Easier said than done. You need to find someone who can make an impact. If it were that easy then everyone would do it.
Bottom line is Jordan Brown is a longshot but the staff is going after him with the intent on trying to land him. The reason, Jordan Brown's don't grow on trees. He is most certainly better than any late JUCO, High School or Grad transfer you may try to land.
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Although I really wanted him. Can’t say I’m surprised. If we can keep our core next year, my cup is full. Players will decommit from other schools or there may be a JUCO big out there. Retain our players, especially Ponds, add Dixon,Williams and Keita and we will be in good shape. Take a couple of pounds off Trimble ,w this years exp and he will be a nice contributor. That said, you never know what attrition we could have.
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
After Jordan and Lovett, personally I would like a break from flaky recruits. Would have liked for him to come but I am guessing we would have had daily drama with him.
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
Easier said than done. You need to find someone who can make an impact. If it were that easy then everyone would do it.
Bottom line is Jordan Brown is a longshot but the staff is going after him with the intent on trying to land him. The reason, Jordan Brown's don't grow on trees. He is most certainly better than any late JUCO, High School or Grad transfer you may try to land.
Obviously the others schools involved may have more to offer but Brown would have the ability next year to play with a veteran team with two elite guards in Ponds and Simon. He would also have help in from court with Owens and Clark who I hope and think will be back. Would be a great situation for a talented freshman to play with a veteran group. This coming from a very biased person though obviously.
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
Easier said than done. You need to find someone who can make an impact. If it were that easy then everyone would do it.
Bottom line is Jordan Brown is a longshot but the staff is going after him with the intent on trying to land him. The reason, Jordan Brown's don't grow on trees. He is most certainly better than any late JUCO, High School or Grad transfer you may try to land.
Obviously the others schools involved may have more to offer but Brown would have the ability next year to play with a veteran team with two elite guards in Ponds and Simon. He would also have help in from court with Owens and Clark who I hope and think will be back. Would be a great situation for a talented freshman to play with a veteran group. This coming from a very biased person though obviously.
Just don't bet on it :)
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
Easier said than done. You need to find someone who can make an impact. If it were that easy then everyone would do it.
Bottom line is Jordan Brown is a longshot but the staff is going after him with the intent on trying to land him. The reason, Jordan Brown's don't grow on trees. He is most certainly better than any late JUCO, High School or Grad transfer you may try to land.
Obviously the others schools involved may have more to offer but Brown would have the ability next year to play with a veteran team with two elite guards in Ponds and Simon. He would also have help in from court with Owens and Clark who I hope and think will be back. Would be a great situation for a talented freshman to play with a veteran group. This coming from a very biased person though obviously.
It's a longshot. My point is if people think it is just easy to find a low post impact presence this late by picking up the phone or by cruising the JUCO Yellow Pages then the staff would be doing that as opposed to schlepping out to Cali to visit a top 15 recruit who is a bit of a longshot. By going to Cali the staff understand the importance and difficulty they will have replacing Brooks as an incoming recruit.
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Find a grad transfer. Don’t find myself to upset about it for what ever reason.
Easier said than done. You need to find someone who can make an impact. If it were that easy then everyone would do it.
Bottom line is Jordan Brown is a longshot but the staff is going after him with the intent on trying to land him. The reason, Jordan Brown's don't grow on trees. He is most certainly better than any late JUCO, High School or Grad transfer you may try to land.
Obviously the others schools involved may have more to offer but Brown would have the ability next year to play with a veteran team with two elite guards in Ponds and Simon. He would also have help in from court with Owens and Clark who I hope and think will be back. Would be a great situation for a talented freshman to play with a veteran group. This coming from a very biased person though obviously.
Just don't bet on it :)
Haha I won’t. I realize chances are very slim.
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This is exactly why you can't have a two year plan. Brooks was a good addition and would have helped immediately. At this point let's retain Owens and Clark (make them captains too) and try to add a PG and a 5th year grad transfer big.
I'd ask Yakwe to redshirt as well to soften the blow of losing Clark and Owens. If he is unwilling or wants to transfer sign the kid from Bosco.
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This is exactly why you can't have a two year plan. Brooks was a good addition and would have helped immediately. At this point let's retain Owens and Clark (make them captains too) and try to add a PG and a 5th year grad transfer big.
I'd ask Yakwe to redshirt as well to soften the blow of losing Clark and Owens. If he is unwilling or wants to transfer sign the kid from Bosco.
Is rather get a transfer than have Yakwe redshirt. What’s going to make or break us is retention of our players. Loosing Brooks is a bummer, but if we also loose Owens or Clark due to transfer, that would be a real hit. I don’t even want to think about your favorite player getting drafted to the NBA this year.
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He apparently just realized St John's wasn't in Seattle.
Excuses.
The excuses are so pathetic, really.
Don't commit if it means nothing.
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I'm not devastated considering a guy rated in the 80s is not the "program changer" some pegged him as but the bottom line is we currently have a team 1 game above 500 with a coach many thinK isn't a tremendous tactician and a very sub par recruiting class coming in with the possibility of some key cogs leaving via draft or transfer. I'm very proud of the current run we're on and would absolutely love to see this team in any type of post season play but please forgive me for not doing backflips about the future trajectory of this program.
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Red flags everywhere. Good riddance
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Red flags everywhere. Good riddance
Another Cross dresser? Whoops, thought u said red heels
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With the FBI about to pounce, the big baller league should have some talent
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Amen if what you hear on those red flags is accurate. And better this happen now than July.
Red flags everywhere. Good riddance
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Any chance of re recruiting this kid or dead in the water
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Any chance of re recruiting this kid or dead in the water
He decommited, on to the next one.
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Committed back to USC.
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22900103/usc-trojans-hire-eric-mobley-father-recruits-isaiah-evan-mobley-assistant-coach
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J’raan gonna have a hard time getting PT over two coaches sons who are too 50 kids.