6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2009 Class => Topic started by: TRabinowitz on December 26, 2007, 05:01:30 PM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2007/12/xavier-intrigues-rice-star-sco.html
i said it before and i will say it again: xavier made a better hire from the gauchos by bringing on book richardson than sju did with billy singleton. according to one of the gauchos people ive been speaking to, singleton has little pull with their players and sju has been late on jumping on the younger guys. durand scott, possibly the second or third best junior prospect in the city not named lance stephenson made a visit to xavier and was impressed.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2007/12/xavier-intrigues-rice-star-sco.html
i said it before and i will say it again: xavier made a better hire from the gauchos by bringing on book richardson than sju did with billy singleton. according to one of the gauchos people ive been speaking to, singleton has little pull with their players and sju has been late on jumping on the younger guys. durand scott, possibly the second or third best junior prospect in the city not named lance stephenson made a visit to xavier and was impressed.
Bring Sean Miller here, and the players will follow
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
Who's that? Is it your fellow former OSNA coach?
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
One person will influence Lance Stephenson's college choice.. his father.. that is it.....
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
Who's that? Is it your fellow former OSNA coach?
you mean osl. who was that coach? i heard that kareem meminger sought it
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
One person will influence Lance Stephenson's college choice.. his father.. that is it.....
not entirely true. his pops is very cool peoples and his moms holds alot of weight. trust me his dad isnt the only person with influence.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2007/12/xavier-intrigues-rice-star-sco.html
i said it before and i will say it again: xavier made a better hire from the gauchos by bringing on book richardson than sju did with billy singleton. according to one of the gauchos people ive been speaking to, singleton has little pull with their players and sju has been late on jumping on the younger guys. durand scott, possibly the second or third best junior prospect in the city not named lance stephenson made a visit to xavier and was impressed.
That visit wuz straight up out of respct. All Ill say on the subjct.
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
Who's that? Is it your fellow former OSNA coach?
you mean osl. who was that coach? i heard that kareem meminger sought it
You're right, my bad. I had heard back in the day that Oswald Cross was involved at some point (had heard Meminger as well).
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http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/weiss/2007/12/xavier-intrigues-rice-star-sco.html
i said it before and i will say it again: xavier made a better hire from the gauchos by bringing on book richardson than sju did with billy singleton. according to one of the gauchos people ive been speaking to, singleton has little pull with their players and sju has been late on jumping on the younger guys. durand scott, possibly the second or third best junior prospect in the city not named lance stephenson made a visit to xavier and was impressed.
That visit wuz straight up out of respct. All Ill say on the subjct.
Durrand is the real deal and Xavier has no shot. . he will be playing basketball in a major conference... I just hope he is doing it at St. John's... I have been saying it for a year.. he is a guy Norm has to get...!!!
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
One person will influence Lance Stephenson's college choice.. his father.. that is it.....
not entirely true. his pops is very cool peoples and his moms holds alot of weight. trust me his dad isnt the only person with influence.
Kob.. I am not saying you are wrong but I have watched Lance play since grammar school... his father holds ALL the sway in the decision making process.. and next in line is Tiny....
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
One person will influence Lance Stephenson's college choice.. his father.. that is it.....
not entirely true. his pops is very cool peoples and his moms holds alot of weight. trust me his dad isnt the only person with influence.
Kob.. I am not saying you are wrong but I have watched Lance play since grammar school... his father holds ALL the sway in the decision making process.. and next in line is Tiny....
Well if he held all the sway then there would be no next in line correct?
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there was another coach that interviewed with st. johns that would have brung in plenty of players. they might even had a realistic shot at lance
One person will influence Lance Stephenson's college choice.. his father.. that is it.....
not entirely true. his pops is very cool peoples and his moms holds alot of weight. trust me his dad isnt the only person with influence.
Kob.. I am not saying you are wrong but I have watched Lance play since grammar school... his father holds ALL the sway in the decision making process.. and next in line is Tiny....
Well if he held all the sway then there would be no next in line correct?
if you wwant to look at it that way. . you are right but I think you knew what I meant....
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Any thoughts on the possibility of getting Scott? Those who have seen him live, what's his game like?
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Any thoughts on the possibility of getting Scott? Those who have seen him live, what's his game like?
He's an above-average shooter (which puts him well ahead of the curve in New York), an average handle for a quality 2, and a good, physical defender. On a championship caliber team, he can be a integral member in a few years.
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nah durand has very very good handle. hes gonna play the point in college. thats what i like about him kev and omari. they can score but was given the gift to play point. when all three play together man its special.kevin usally takes the point. durand does all the crazy passing and omari defends and scores
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nah durand has very very good handle. hes gonna play the point in college. thats what i like about him kev and omari. they can score but was given the gift to play point. when all three play together man its special.kevin usally takes the point. durand does all the crazy passing and omari defends and scores
Outside of a completely desperate one, which schools have actually told him that they view him as a future point guard for their program?
This is scout.com's take on 2/3 Durand Scott:
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2619452
AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT
Ballhandling
Catch and Shoot
Decision Making
Strengths:
Big-Game Player
Competitiveness
Toughness
Extremely competitive young man. Has improved his perimeter game through his high school years. He's the kind of guy you want on your team. Brings a hard-nosed attitude toward the game.
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this is the same scout that has kevin a 3 star recruit. ive known durand since he was 10. i know whta he is capable of and hes capable of running a point. he runs it for guachos. and they are winning
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worse case scenario in college he's a glue guy off the bench.
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this is the same scout that has kevin a 3 star recruit. ive known durand since he was 10. i know whta he is capable of and hes capable of running a point. he runs it for guachos. and they are winning
what position dos russ smith adn tyreak Johnson play rof dem Choz%
hte gucahos have ben wiinnnning due to the outstanding play of their repimeter derpth, primarily their wings fo Lamb, Scott, and Baskin sa well sa the only decent 6'8"+ kid in NYC, Dna Jneeings
This weekend, they'll add 6'4" wing, Jason Morris, a 2010 kid from Hotchkiss via Augusta, Georgia.
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worse case scenario in college he's a glue guy off the bench.
For a program like St. John's, he should be able to start right away.
For an elite program, he'd have to come off of the bench to start, but should be able to start in later years.
http://www.newyorkgauchos.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=201:chris-wallace-cavscornercom&catid=46:gauchos-news#comments
As far as Scott's recruitment goes, he's still taking things fairly slow, and no favorites have emerged at this stage.
But he did say that there are five schools showing him the most interest right now.
"I'm still open and there are more schools recruiting me, but the ones that are coming at me the hardest are Miami, Virginia, Pitt, St. John's and Wake Forest," said Scott, who's rated by Rivals.com as the No. 83 overall player in the class of 2009.
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Only video I could find mostly just layups....he is lanky and looks like he has good size for a guard but can he shoot?
http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=1278008401&channel=1215674518
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http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080720/SPORTS11/807200630/1002/SPORTS
Cards want New Yorkshooting guard Scott
Look for U of L to get serious in its recruitment of New York City shooting guard Durand Scott.
The 6-4, 180-pound senior-to-be from Rice High School is ranked No. 27 nationally in his class by Scout and No. 51 by Rivals.
"Louisville is showing a lot of interest and is not too, too far from home," Scott said at the LeBron James camp, where he was slowed by an ankle injury.
Scott's list of schools also includes Pittsburgh, Miami, Memphis, St. John's and Seton Hall.
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hell yeah he can shoot. He is a must have period
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The 6-foot-4, 180-pound Scott is a Top 50 player in the Class of 2009 and a rising senior at Rice High in Manhattan.
“Louisville is showing a lot of interest and is not too, too far from home,†Scott told Jody Demling of the Louisville Courier-Journal at the LeBron James US Skills Academy, where he sprained his ankle.
Scott’s list also includes Pittsburgh, Miami, Memphis, St. John’s and Seton Hall.
“Most schools show me love, but some schools go out of their way and try and show me more love,†Scott said. “I am not going to rush it. I am a humble guy and I will let my decision come to me. When I am ready, a decision will come to me.â€
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louisville is not too, too far from home.
why don't we take up a collection and get this kid a map.
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From Super Showcase in Orlando, FL
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=830304
"The New York Gauchos 17 and under team is playing well, and as usual Durand Scott is the person behind it all. The intense guard was getting into the lane at will and playing tough defense all game. He led a balanced Gaucho attack with 15 points."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=3507751
Durand Scott, SG (6-5)
2009, New York/Rice
Scott is most definitely the glue guy for the New York Gauchos and has the talent to dominate games from his backcourt position. He is truly a winner and a fierce competitor. He is not a pure outside shooter and gets most of his points slashing to the hoop or getting fouled. However he has 3-point shooting abilities, as evidenced by the three trifectas he made against Athlete's First in the semifinals. Scott has excellent knowledge of the game, good court vision and the vision to find open teammates. He works hard defensively and can be a nightmare for opposing guards. He has the all-around game to be an immediate starter and impact player at the collegiate level.
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A few recent tid-bits on scott from rivals & scout :
July 26, 2008
Give credit to Durand Scott. The New York Gauchos guard just knows what it takes to win. Whenever things get tight, Scott takes the big shot for the Gauchos, and usually he makes it. That happened again down the stretch for Scott as the Gauchos closed out the Birmingham Storm in a close battle.
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=910&CID=830602
July 27, 2008
Scott was needed to have a big performance against the tournament's favorite -- Athletes First from Oklahoma. Athletes First features three of the top players in the 2009 class and a couple of McDonald's All American candidates too.
But Durand was simply terrific on both ends of the court. Scott registered 23 points, including three three-pointers.
Scott also did a nice job in helping out his backcourt mates beat zone pressure and traps. His size and strength helped him land double figures in rebounds too, giving him end to end opportunities on a few occasions.
Late in the game, Scott showed his ballhandling skills with a swift crossover, causing a terrific defender in Terrence Boyd of Athletes First to first stagger the wrong way and then fall on his back.
The move ignited a roar from the gym. On the way up the court after the move, all Boyd could do was flash a sheepish smile while Scott had a stern look on his face. The reason? His team was losing. The individual move meant nothing to him. While the Gauchos fell late on some charity free throws, Scott's effort was noticed by the many college coaches in attendance trying to recruit him.
"I don't have a set list," he said. "I'm just trying to help the team win games. When I get back I'll think about that."
http://hsnewyork.scout.com/2/772753.html
July 31, 2008
FACES IN THE CROWD : Head coaches for Durand Scott: Miami, St. John’s, South Florida.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/773998.html
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we're still on his list
http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/08/18/durand-scott-narrowing-list/#comments
Rice head coach Mo Hicks said Scott will visit Pitt, Miami, UCLA and Louisville officially and Seton Hall and St. John’s unofficially.
“At this point, the other official could come to Seton Hall or St. John’s,†Hicks said. “We’re saving it for one of the locals.â€
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St Johns and Norm are definitely involved with a great list of recruits lately. Maybe we'll get lucky and these kids talk to each other and vow to put SJU back on the map
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so much for that...never had a good feeling about him.
http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/08/19/durand-scott-has-top-8/#more-2257
After talking with Rice coach Mo Hicks about Durand Scott the other day, I caught up with Durand himself today on the phone.
He says he has a top eight schools of UCLA, Miami, UConn, Tennessee, Xavier, Pittsburgh, Memphis and Virginia
“When I get down to my top five, those are the five schools I’m going to take a visit to,†the 6-4, 180-pound Scott said, adding that he plans to cut his list “before school starts, around early September.â€
Hicks had said Scott would take official visits to Pitt, UCLA, Miami and Louisville and unofficials to St. John’s and Seton Hall, but Scott had a slightly different version.
He did not include Louisville among his final eight, although he said he may well take an unofficial visit there. And he concurred that he would take unofficials to Seton Hall and St. John’s, but did not include them among his top eight.
“I will take a visit (to Louisville),†he said â€I’m not saying I’m not interested in them. I don’t really know nothing about Louisville. I never really put them on my list. I just know they got a good coach (in Rick Pitino).â€
Scott said he is friendly with Louisville guard Edgar Sosa, who also played at Rice.
“I am tight with him,†he said.
As for UConn, Scott recently went there for Jim Calhoun’s Elite Camp and he said he liked it, and could imagine re-joining Kemba Walker, who played at Rice and will be a frosh at UConn.
“UConn, they had a lot of pros that came from there,†he said. â€(Coach Calhoun) seems like a very good guy. I played with Kemba, he’s going there. I’ve been down there and learned about it. I think I know enough.â€
As for UCLA, Scott said head coach Ben Howland watched the Gauchos in Orlando and came to the semis and finals of the U17 national championship, where he offered him a scholarship.
“They came into the mix because they came to see me play in the semifinals and the championship game in Orlando,†Scott said. â€I like what they did last year. I don’t really know nothing about them. From what I know, they seem pretty OK. I want to give them a look.
“I was offered a scholarship on the spot.â€
Scott said Tennessee also offered a scholarship in Orlando, and that he is considering them. The Vols are also in the mix for Lance Stephenson of Brooklyn Lincoln and Dominic Cheek of St. Anthony.
He said neither St. John’s nor Seton Hall were in his top eight, but that he will visit.
“I will take an unofficial to both those schools,†he said. “I really have intentions of getting away from New York.
“(But) the game plan some of these local schools have, I guess I’ll give them a look. I’m not going to blow them off. That’s why I give them an unofficial.â€
Scott will play Friday in the Boost Mobile Elite 24 event at Rucker Park.
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UConn is away from NY?
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those aren't Durand words and understand that I keep saying only certain people wanna see y'all suceed other organizations have other intents
*hit edit by accident JJ
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those aren't Durand words and understand that I keep saying only certain people wanna see y'all suceed other organizations have other intents.
Thank you for confirming what I've been saying for years kob... it is sad but TRUE.. ::) ... unfortunately, there are more than a couple h.s./aau coaches who hold a "grudge" against Norm/SJU & they will go to ANY length to sway kids away from us... either because they were pissed on by Jarvis OR they feel they were "passed over" by the current staff... the worst part is they clearly do NOT have the best interests of their kids in mind.. :-[ .. F 'em!!
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those aren't Durand words and understand that I keep saying only certain people wanna see y'all suceed other organizations have other intents.
unfortunately, there are more than a couple h.s./aau coaches who hold a "grudge" against Norm/SJU & they will go to ANY length to sway kids away from us... either because they were pissed on by Jarvis OR they feel they were "passed over" by the current staff...
PLEASE PLEASE share an example of someone, sny coach who is holding a grudge against Norm & SJU.. and don't use Ron Naclerio... since you said there were "more then a couple"
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those aren't Durand words and understand that I keep saying only certain people wanna see y'all suceed other organizations have other intents.
unfortunately, there are more than a couple h.s./aau coaches who hold a "grudge" against Norm/SJU & they will go to ANY length to sway kids away from us... either because they were pissed on by Jarvis OR they feel they were "passed over" by the current staff...
PLEASE PLEASE share an example of someone, sny coach who is holding a grudge against Norm & SJU.. and don't use Ron Naclerio... since you said there were "more then a couple"
No need to mention names at this point buddy... since kob has confirmed everything i've said for years.. ;D .. but here's a picture of the "culprits" instead.. :) .. yawn.
(http://www.emerchandise.com/images/p/TTS/pdSITTS0009.jpg)
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PLEASE PLEASE share an example of someone, sny coach who is holding a grudge against Norm & SJU.. and don't use Ron Naclerio... since you said there were "more then a couple"
No need to mention names at this point buddy... since kob has confirmed everything i've said for years.. ;D .. but here's a picture of the "culprits" instead.. :) .. yawn.
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YOU can't mention names because YOU can't... the only coach you might know is Tim Leary because you went to St. Francis... and Timmy holds NO grudge aginst Norm and St. John's... and you are probably even angry at hime because he had you cut from the Freshamn team and ruined your career at the Prep...
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So how about that Durand Scott......
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So how about that Durand Scott......
Well if Omari's commitment is imminent then his eliminating SJU, while unfortunate, is not that big a deal. There's only one more ride left for this class until after the season and any transfers and the guard stock for 09/10 looks fine (Booth, Stith, Edmundson, Horne, Lawrence). Need a SF first, at this point it's just Kennedy and Roberts.
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So how about that Durand Scott......
Well if Omari's commitment is imminent then his eliminating SJU, while unfortunate, is not that big a deal. There's only one more ride left for this class until after the season and any transfers and the guard stock for 09/10 looks fine (Booth, Stith, Edmundson, Horne, Lawrence). Need a SF first, at this point it's just Kennedy and Roberts.
You are very off base. Omari told me that he is campaigning to have Scott join him at St. John's. So Omari's commitment might increase his interest in St. John's. Scott will also definitely be visiting St. John's soon unlike other reports have indicated. However Scott does not have St. John's high on his list but St. John's is definitely in his schools of interest.
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So how about that Durand Scott......
Well if Omari's commitment is imminent then his eliminating SJU, while unfortunate, is not that big a deal. There's only one more ride left for this class until after the season and any transfers and the guard stock for 09/10 looks fine (Booth, Stith, Edmundson, Horne, Lawrence). Need a SF first, at this point it's just Kennedy and Roberts.
You are very off base. Omari told me that he is campaigning to have Scott join him at St. John's. So Omari's commitment might increase his interest in St. John's. Scott will also definitely be visiting St. John's soon unlike other reports have indicated. However Scott does not have St. John's high on his list but St. John's is definitely in his schools of interest.
How many schollies we have after Omari signs?
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So how about that Durand Scott......
Well if Omari's commitment is imminent then his eliminating SJU, while unfortunate, is not that big a deal. There's only one more ride left for this class until after the season and any transfers and the guard stock for 09/10 looks fine (Booth, Stith, Edmundson, Horne, Lawrence). Need a SF first, at this point it's just Kennedy and Roberts.
I disagree. If Omari comes, 09/10 is very balanced. The 12 would have 2 of each position plus Rob a 3/4 plus 5th guard as above. Go for best player avail.
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We would have 1 left assuming Stith and Omari both sign their letter of intents.
A good way to keep track of all of this is use the Scholarship Distribution Table. I will sticky one of these to each of the recruiting boards as well. However it can be found stickied here in the main section of the chat....
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0
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We would have 1 left assuming Stith and Omari both sign their letter of intents.
A good way to keep track of all of this is use the Scholarship Distribution Table. I will sticky one of these to each of the recruiting boards as well. However it can be found stickied here in the main section of the chat....
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0
Im starting to doubt Stith getting a schollie
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We would have 1 left assuming Stith and Omari both sign their letter of intents.
A good way to keep track of all of this is use the Scholarship Distribution Table. I will sticky one of these to each of the recruiting boards as well. However it can be found stickied here in the main section of the chat....
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0
Im starting to doubt Stith getting a schollie
LoL why because he actually gave a solid verbal much earlier than we are all used to in recent years? Every report I hear about him is very good. He has done very well in AAU ball this summer too.
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We would have 1 left assuming Stith and Omari both sign their letter of intents.
A good way to keep track of all of this is use the Scholarship Distribution Table. I will sticky one of these to each of the recruiting boards as well. However it can be found stickied here in the main section of the chat....
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0
Im starting to doubt Stith getting a schollie
LoL why because he actually gave a solid verbal much earlier than we are all used to in recent years? Every report I hear about him is very good. He has done very well in AAU ball this summer too.
I was thinking that better players might want to come after Omari verbals leaving Stith odd man out. Wishful thinking I guess
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So how about that Durand Scott......
Well if Omari's commitment is imminent then his eliminating SJU, while unfortunate, is not that big a deal. There's only one more ride left for this class until after the season and any transfers and the guard stock for 09/10 looks fine (Booth, Stith, Edmundson, Horne, Lawrence). Need a SF first, at this point it's just Kennedy and Roberts.
You are very off base. Omari told me that he is campaigning to have Scott join him at St. John's. So Omari's commitment might increase his interest in St. John's. Scott will also definitely be visiting St. John's soon unlike other reports have indicated. However Scott does not have St. John's high on his list but St. John's is definitely in his schools of interest.
I guess our definitions of off base differ. I was simply stating an opinion. Off base is usually considered synonymous with out of place and I don't think my comments were such.
At this point it is also my opinion that the staff's priorities usurp Omari's campaigning. I would also say that RT hasn't shown any 3 type skills post injury . . . yet. If he shows them this year then I would change that opinion. I would also state that if Edmundson shows some PG skills then I would change my opinion of whether we should hope Stith's commitment sticks or not but at this time PG looks like a shallow spot and therefore Stith is important especially since I don't see any other great PG's on the list. With all that stated I will stick by my opinion that absent any transfers a wing should be the priority right now with what appears to be the one remaining schollie.
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We would have 1 left assuming Stith and Omari both sign their letter of intents.
A good way to keep track of all of this is use the Scholarship Distribution Table. I will sticky one of these to each of the recruiting boards as well. However it can be found stickied here in the main section of the chat....
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0
Im starting to doubt Stith getting a schollie
LoL why because he actually gave a solid verbal much earlier than we are all used to in recent years? Every report I hear about him is very good. He has done very well in AAU ball this summer too.
I was thinking that better players might want to come after Omari verbals leaving Stith odd man out. Wishful thinking I guess
totally understand the logic. Perhaps you might prove to be correct however but right now lets not be pushing Stith out the door.
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So how about that Durand Scott......
Well if Omari's commitment is imminent then his eliminating SJU, while unfortunate, is not that big a deal. There's only one more ride left for this class until after the season and any transfers and the guard stock for 09/10 looks fine (Booth, Stith, Edmundson, Horne, Lawrence). Need a SF first, at this point it's just Kennedy and Roberts.
I disagree. If Omari comes, 09/10 is very balanced. The 12 would have 2 of each position plus Rob a 3/4 plus 5th guard as above. Go for best player avail.
Is Roberts really a 3? That's another question. If he's not the need for either Baskin, Parrom or Lance becomes far greater.
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i agree about not pushing stith out the door. i'd hate to see a repeat of the time we pushed gary payton out the door for someone named broadnax...
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UConn is away from NY?
Some kids think getting away is better just because it's away.
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Many places are saying UConn or Xavier for Scott....
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no uconn or Miami not xavier trust me
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no uconn or Miami not xavier trust me
does this mean st. johns is the clear leader?
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R U sayin STJ is the leader for this kid? I have only heard great things about Scott. Great leader and comes thru in the clutch..... so what's the word KOB.
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no I'm sorry I wrote it wrong I meant uconn or Miami for him but not xavier. St.john has a huge shot because of Oswald cross now on the staff but Durand does want to go away. Having Oz on the staff is huge for him. Same as Jordan Williams who is very cool with Oz.
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I would love to have Scott join us but if Williams decides to come aboard that would cool. Then the question would be can Norm coach that team to 18 plus victories?
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no uconn or Miami not xavier trust me
does this mean st. johns is the clear leader?
He's saying Uconn and Miami are his leaders...not Xavier.
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no uconn or Miami not xavier trust me
does this mean st. johns is the clear leader?
He's saying Uconn and Miami are his leaders...not Xavier.
I think we are better off focusing on the athletes that have us as favorites. Right now Scott is wishfull thinking. Parrom has a real interest and talent. It should be easier to sway a kid from the likes of Xavier and South Carolina. Than competing againts perrenial powers for Scott. We should make the same push for Parrom that we made for lawrence. One thing is for sure. Lawrence will be on it. I don't care who u r, He has the advantage. He'll be sleeping next to the guy! c'mon Omari, first thing in the morning last thing at night ;D :-* ;D
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He was pretty solid in Elite 24 game. Not overly assertive though he seemed to get lost in the shuffle at times. He wasn't too flashy which I like he just did what he had to do when he had the ball.
I'm curious to the comparison of Durand Scott and Kevin Parrom
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Durand is better they both will end up playing the point
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Durand is better they both will end up playing the point
Honestly.. how can you say that..?
Neither pf these kids have playyed point guard in high school.. they both can handle the ball but play point guard in the Big East...?
As Choz has said. . "point guards are born... not made" and you just don't go from play #2 & #3 in high school to running the point in high level Division I.... maybe they both will be combo guards but true point guards.. not a chance...
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Durand is better they both will end up playing the point
Honestly.. how can you say that..?
Neither pf these kids have playyed point guard in high school.. they both can handle the ball but play point guard in the Big East...?
As Choz has said. . "point guards are born... not made" and you just don't go from play #2 & #3 in high school to running the point in high level Division I.... maybe they both will be combo guards but true point guards.. not a chance...
Kids like Chris Duhon,Sundiata Gaines,Russell Robinson,Darius Washington and even Eugene Lawrence were SG converted into PG's. Why cant these kids do the same?
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Durand is better they both will end up playing the point
Honestly.. how can you say that..?
Neither pf these kids have played point guard in high school.. they both can handle the ball but play point guard in the Big East...?
As Choz has said. . "point guards are born... not made" and you just don't go from play #2 & #3 in high school to running the point in high level Division I.... maybe they both will be combo guards but true point guards.. not a chance...
Gotta go with poppa pmg & choz on this "point".. ;D .. Especially pertaining to parrom... i definitely don't see him playing ANY pg in college. Sure he didn't mean Lawrence instead? Because omari is quoted as saying that the staff was going to use him at both guard spots to best ready him for the "next" level... peace!
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He was pretty solid in Elite 24 game. Not overly assertive though he seemed to get lost in the shuffle at times. He wasn't too flashy which I like he just did what he had to do when he had the ball.
I'm curious to the comparison of Durand Scott and Kevin Parrom
I wouldn't take much from the Boost Mobile 24 game.
Kenny Boynton was dominating all year long.
Scott said he was the hardest player he's ever defended, but, if you had never seen Boynton before, you'd think he was just above-average based on that little NY exhibition.
Scott should be a better college player than Russell Robinson.
I just hope he doesn't go to UCONN.
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Durand and kevin where born point guards but due to their height and scoring ability they have been pushed to the sg and sf/pf position. Kevin is with out a doubt a true point but he is 6'6 and has a big body. kevin has had to play back up point for me for three summers now. And since Durand was young he was a point he has just been on rice and guachos teams where there where other points. Are y'all trying to tell me truck who played power fowardin the eight grade and who will play pg for west virgina was born a point?
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Durand and kevin where born point guards but due to their height and scoring ability they have been pushed to the sg and sf/pf position. Kevin is with out a doubt a true point but he is 6'6 and has a big body. kevin has had to play back up point for me for three summers now. And since Durand was young he was a point he has just been on rice and guachos teams where there where other points. Are y'all trying to tell me truck who played power fowardin the eight grade and who will play pg for west virgina was born a point?
First. . please don't compare playing point guard in an AAU enviornment and in the high school league enviorment. . its a completely different situation....
Kids just don't go from not playing point guard in high school to moving to that position, successfully, in college and especially in the Big East... of course there are exceptions to every situation...
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I think you see adaptation on any level in any sport. You see guys play positions in college that play different positions in the NBA. You see kids who played other positions in college football who play others in NFL. I think you see it even more so in the transition from highschool to college.
I agree with PMG however the transition is going to be hard however I don't think we expect either to be all big east PG in their freshman year. I think they can be successful though in their collegiate career at the position.
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hold on so u are saying since the kid never played point in high school he can't play it in college? Since a kid can't shoot the ball he will never be able to shoot. Since a kid weighs 145 soaking wet he can't gain weight. Pmg what was bassy and steph in highschool? What was lebron? What was Lamar? Hell tell me what ronald ramon played while he was at all hallows. And u guys still haven't said anything about truck yet?
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Durand and kevin where born point guards but due to their height and scoring ability they have been pushed to the sg and sf/pf position. Kevin is with out a doubt a true point but he is 6'6 and has a big body. kevin has had to play back up point for me for three summers now. And since Durand was young he was a point he has just been on rice and guachos teams where there where other points. Are y'all trying to tell me truck who played power fowardin the eight grade and who will play pg for west virgina was born a point?
First. . please don't compare playing point guard in an AAU enviornment and in the high school league enviorment. . its a completely different situation....
Kids just don't go from not playing point guard in high school to moving to that position, successfully, in college and especially in the Big East... of course there are exceptions to every situation...
I don't agree at all...in fact I was a point guard but played shooting guard for my high school team. We had another player that played the point but couldn't shoot so I was moved to shooting guard. I played point on my AAU team. Just because you didn't play the PG on your high school team doesn't mean you can't play it in college.
Also just because someone is a good passer doesn't mean they would be a good PG either.
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Its an unfortunate situation for some of the more talented players. They will be asked to make sacrifices for the better of the team. Why? Because they are talented enough they can. Thats like the tallest kid in class is always the big man. What if that big man has handle? He can shoot? etc. Chances are at the early level and sometimes into highschool they will be asked to play down low.
Also another scenario if a kid is talented and he is a PG and is playing with weaker players around him. It might be better for him to play off the ball so he can get more shots. If he has the ball in his hands to start it might be harder for him to finish. Double team has to pass the ball. If he is off the ball he can run through screens get free and get the ball in better spots.
Also if you look around college how many teams around the country have legit "true" pg on their roster?
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you have to take coaching into account as well, most premier players at the high school level have the attributes to play the point on any level, such as ball handling, speed and vision. I think its more of going from a scoring mentality to a running the show mentality. The great coaches can "coach a guy up" and maybe thats necessary for some circumstances.
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Pmg what was bassy and steph in highschool?
KOB. . maybe Truck was a power foward in 8th grade but he was a point guard in high school and learned the position while his game was developing...
Stephon Marbury & Sebastian Telfair have been point guards since the day they stepped on a court... I watched both of them since they were both in the 4th grade and they have never played another position...
I never said a kid can't make the transition... and of course there are exceptions but to make it and be successful playing in the Big East... its not something that happens every year... maybe for a kid who is playing in a lower tier conference the transition can be made over a couple of years...
Please don't confuse a kid that is a combo guard and a true point guard... you use the example of Ronlad Ramon... he is a combo guard.. if Pittsburgh has its choice.. who was the point guard there.. LeVance or Ronald...?
Lamar was forward in high school.. there is no question about that... in fact he pl;ayed with two true point guards while at CTK. . Speedy & Barkely...
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truck became the point guard for rays when gerald left and the point got injured. And didn't Eugene transfer to Lincoln to play the point for bassy. Stephon made the word combo guard because he felt that he was just as good scoring if not better than passing. And put Lamar in the same catergory as Parrom he still brought the ball up in high school and college he still ran plays for the team. There are so many people I can name Erving walker who was the two guard when malik is there I guess isn't considered a point. Or brandon Jennings so avereaged something like 25ppg can't play the point on the next level. Say what y'all say but at the end of the day when it's all said and done Durand isn't being recruited because he is such a scorer he is being recruited with the prospect of him playing the point. Kevin Parrom will be bring the ball and running plays for whatever school he picks. I don't care what they did in highschool or anyl other grade they will evolve.
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truck became the point guard for rays when gerald left and the point got injured. And didn't Eugene transfer to Lincoln to play the point for bassy. Stephon made the word combo guard because he felt that he was just as good scoring if not better than passing. And put Lamar in the same catergory as Parrom he still brought the ball up in high school and college he still ran plays for the team. There are so many people I can name Erving walker who was the two guard when malik is there I guess isn't considered a point. Or brandon Jennings so avereaged something like 25ppg can't play the point on the next level. Say what y'all say but at the end of the day when it's all said and done Durand isn't being recruited because he is such a scorer he is being recruited with the prospect of him playing the point. Kevin Parrom will be bring the ball and running plays for whatever school he picks. I don't care what they did in highschool or anyl other grade they will evolve.
#1. Eugene was converted to point guard upon arrival at St. John's because he was off guard at Lincoln. . Sebastian was the point guard all fours at Lincoln...
#2. Stephon has never played any other position besides the point.. he might be a scoring point guard but has never ever been a combo guard...
#3. Lamar was NOT a point guard at CTK and NEVER EVER had major ball handling responsibilities on those teams...
#4. Durand Scott is as much of a point guard as Sylven Landesburg... they cerainly might be capable of handling the job once in a while and giving the true point a rest but it will not be their primary position in a major conference... and maybe it happens.. I certainly could be proven wrong... but its a rare occurence when it happens and is extremely successful...
There are plenty of forwards who have ball handling responsibilites for their teams but that certainly doesn't make them a point guard...
We could go back and forth on this all day...
I hope both Durand & Kevin have wonderful college careers.. no matter what postion they play...
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we gonna have to agree to disagree on this one pmg. I see what u are saying but my thought pattern is different on another note congrats on the kids maybe future backcourt for the johniees women team. The same year mine plays the pf.
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Why does a player have to be this "position" just because he plays it on his team. I think Geno is a PG. He is not a SG(umm he can't shoot). With his case going over to Lincoln he wasn't as good as Telfair but better than the starting SG therefore he played SG.
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http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/09/22/durand-scott-cuts-list-to-5/#more-3889
Durand Scott, a 6-foot-4 combo guard out of Rice High School in Manhattan, has cut his list to five schools, and it’s not the list incorrectly circulating on the Internet.
“As of now, my top five are Pitt, Miami, Tennessee, UConn and UCLA,†Scott wrote Monday morning in a text message. He eliminated Virginia and Xavier.
Scott added that he was also considering Memphis.
“I might take an unofficial there,†he said.
In the meantime, Scott will take an official visit this weekend to UConn. Huskies head coach Jim Calhoun and assistant Andre LaFleur came to Rice two weeks ago and put the fullcourt press on him.
“That was the plan,†he said of an official visit to Storrs this weekend. “I have to talk about it some more. We gotta make sure it’s a definite.â€
Scott may also visit Miami, Tennessee and UCLA
“Most likely I will take the visits there, but I don’t have set dates,†he said.
He spent this past weekend at Pitt, where he joined Pitt commits Dante Taylor of National Christian and Lamar Patterson of St. Benedict’s. During the Iowa-Pitt football game, the basketball team was honored with its rings for winning the Big East Tournament.
“It went really well,†he said. “I had fun out there. I met the coaching staff. I know a couple guys out there, Travon Woodall and Ashton Gibbs and Levance Fields, so I felt very comfortable. I felt right at home.â€
Scott said he hopes to decide “before my season starts†in November.
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I could understand wanting to go away from home, but how dumb do you have to be to choose Pittsburgh to be that place?
Go to California. Go to Miami.
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What kind of impact will Scott be able to have at a school like U Conn? Haralson and Miles are both guards, right? And both supposed to be impact players.
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And just so my first effort doesn't get pulled, I think Scott ends up at UConn.
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We got a bit off topic with the talk of burgers, which was pretty funny, but I just moved all that convo into another thread just so we don't flood this thread with off topic chatter. You can fulfill all your burger needs in the new thread
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=1264.msg14808#new
Keep everything focused on Durand Scott here so we can keep everything useful and resourceful with information pertaining to him.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2008/11/16/scott-to-announce-on-snytv/#more-7109
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we ever get an answer as to why we just stopped recruiting this kid
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we ever get an answer as to why we just stopped recruiting this kid
he dropped us from his list
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My gut tells me UCONN.
He was even mentioned during their game telecast last night and his close relationship to Kemba.
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My gut tells me UCONN.
He was even mentioned during their game telecast last night and his close relationship to Kemba.
I'm gonna put my money on Miami. Thong vs Northface. I have to go with bare bottoms. ;D .
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My gut tells me UCONN.
He was even mentioned during their game telecast last night and his close relationship to Kemba.
I'm gonna put my money on Miami. Thong vs Northface. I have to go with bare bottoms.
You were right, Miami it is. Gonna have a good backcourt with him and Malcolm Grant.
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My gut tells me UCONN.
He was even mentioned during their game telecast last night and his close relationship to Kemba.
I'm gonna put my money on Miami. Thong vs Northface. I have to go with bare bottoms.
You were right, Miami it is. Gonna have a good backcourt with him and Malcolm Grant.
One less player to deal with at UConn or Pitt
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Much respct to a tru city balla.
Congrats boy!
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One less player to deal with at UConn or Pitt
Not with the way Big East traitors keeping appearing on our schedule...
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One less player to deal with at UConn or Pitt
Not with the way Big East traitors keeping appearing on our schedule...
When does the Miami series end?
After they've landed Malcolm Grant and Durand Scott, we can't do Fernandez and Haith any more favors by allowing them to set up a pipeline to Coral Gables [which is about the other end of the spectrum from Jamaica, Queens].
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Much respct to a tru city balla.
Congrats boy!
tru city ballas don't quit on their city.
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Much respct to a tru city balla.
Congrats boy!
tru city ballas don't quit on their city.
They do when the 'gram quit on them.
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LOL
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/15/frank-haith-out-at-miami/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/15/frank-haith-out-at-miami/)
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wow i would love to see him stay home with omari and come to st johns, to be honest i might want him over lance but its a tough call seeing that he would most likely stay for four years.
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he had an OUTSTANDING game in the championship today. he had 27 pts and kept knocking down big shots down the stretch.
his offense is still a question mark but i obviously wouldn't mind him at st john's.... (give me a pg though)
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I don't think we were a finalist...so I don't know that means he comes here. He supposed to be very good.
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“@AdamZagoria: Durand Scott Signs With Spanish Club http://zagsblog.com/articles/durand-scott-signs-with-spanish-club/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/durand-scott-signs-with-spanish-club/)”