6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2016 Class => Topic started by: paultzman on April 26, 2015, 10:30:18 AM
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http://scouthoops.scout.com/player/8516436n-kostas-antetokounmpo
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Please move to 16 section. Sorry
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this another brother of little greek freak?
forget that, saw scouting report and it is....nice. his brother should be on the knicks by then also.
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Sensing real SJU interest in Kostas.
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Thanassis NYC connection helping?
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Thanassis NYC connection helping?
I believe Matt A knows him a bit.
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Matt A's last two follows on Twitter are Kostas and Thanasis.
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His brother is going to be a star in the NBA.
I don't think Giannis started playing basketball until the age of 15 or 16 also.
Kostas is listed as 6'9" and still growing...
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@trigonis30: Player with as much upside as any here at #nikeeyb is my fellow Greek 6-9 2016 Konstandinos Antetokunmpo. Brother of Mil Bucks' Giannis
Staff appears to agree.
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http://247sports.com/Bolt/Kostas-Antetokounmpo-A-five-star-talent-37281247
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I'll be spending some time with Kostas over the summer at one or more camps.
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"Of course, it all starts with 6'8" 2016 Kostandinos Antetokounmpo. You know him Giannis' younger brother, but the younger Greek Freak has game himself. At his length and size, Antetokounmpo flashes plus-ballhandling and playmaking skills off the bounce. I want to see more confidence in a jumpshot, however this kid is a high-major player."
@hoopseen: From Day One of the #LivePeriod // Live Summer Festival: Opening day http://t.co/ntiSEGvbSF
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@Midwest_Ballers: NEW: 6'9 Kostas Antetokounmpo Has FREAKISH Potential!! Official Junior Season Mixtape https://t.co/moXlD0BBG2 http://t.co/YWBDcWgXOG
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@coreyevans_10: Kostas Antetokounmpo is still 2 years away but potential and ceiling, not many more guys as promising as the Greek import
@coreyevans_10: Once the body gets in line for Kostas Antetokounmpo, watch out. Superior length and timing makes him a fine rim protector in and out of area
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A lot to live up to
As if Kostas Antetokounmpo's name didn't stand out enough as is, the brother of NBA's "Greek Freak" has a comparison point that's difficult to escape.
Not that Milwaukee Bucks standout Giannis Antetokounmpo's younger sibling wants to distance himself from it.
"Everybody wants me to become like my brother," Kostas said, "but I don't think that puts any pressure on me.
"I like it."
There's a better than good chance the younger Antetokounmpo will make his own name in time.
Like Giannis, he's all arms and legs physically, but extremely athletic, with that uncommon length affording him the ability to wreak havoc defensively. Kostas Antetokounmpo, No. 86 in the 2016 Rivals150, runs very well and has shown he can attack the basket some off the dribble.
That said, he is very much a work in progress, but the raw materials are difficult to dispute.
"Coaches like my length and the way I run on the court," he said. "They think they can develop me as a player. They just want to work with me."
Iowa State has offered a scholarship, Antetokounmpo said.
Texas, Arizona State and St. John's are the others he listed as interested.
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1784051
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@WisconsinPGE: 2016 F Kostas Antetokounmpo | @alexadetokoubo has received an offer from the University of Memphis! #PGE #EYBL #AAC #Tigers
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Zach Braziller – Verified account @NYPost_Brazille
St. John's assistant Matt Abdelmassih will be in to see Kostas Antetokounmpo today, per source. Young brother of Greek Freak. Senior wing.
Some say he could benefit from prepping a year.
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KA talks about SJU a bit;
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1632824-high-majors-track-kostas-antetokounmpo
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KA talks about SJU a bit;
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1632824-high-majors-track-kostas-antetokounmpo
He states that he expects a SJU offer when he visits and that he has the best rleationship with the staffs at Iowa St and SJU.
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KA talks about SJU a bit;
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1632824-high-majors-track-kostas-antetokounmpo
He states that he expects a SJU offer when he visits and that he has the best rleationship with the staffs at Iowa St and SJU.
Hopefully he thinks Matt A is on both staffs and when he visits he will learn he is all SJU and he will follow suit. :)
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https://vine.co/v/iiqKKLl0ubt (https://vine.co/v/iiqKKLl0ubt)
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wow
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I thought you were only allowed two steps on a layup.
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absolute beast dunk. heard he's 6'11 now...
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He's a freak too but wouldn't bother. Makes Mustapha Heron look easy to deal with and loyal.
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His brother got called up from westchester today for a 10 day contract with the Knicks
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Somebody on the site 247 had him today committing to sju
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http://www.todaysu.com/recruiting/cbb-recruiting/undeclared-wants-kostas-antetokounmpo/
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SJU should jump on him great size a top 100 recruit.
So far we struck out on every 5 star recruit and I wouldn't count on Jordan Tucker
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Now that we missed on Rawle and most people seem to think someone will transfers so we will have two open ships I would definitely take a chance on this kid. He's already a pretty good player from what I hear and with his athleticism his ceiling is high. I'm sure Matt A is on top of this
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Ideal kid to redshirt it seems.
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If he wants to come take him
Is there any five star recruit we actually have a chance with next year
So far we cant close with a top ten recruit hopefully one day they can but not at this time
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If he wants to come take him
Is there any five star recruit we actually have a chance with next year
So far we cant close with a top ten recruit hopefully one day they can but not at this time
We just won 8 games this season. I think we need to win some games before you can expect 5 star guys to come here. Staff hasn't even been on the job a year so to expect them to land 5 star guys in premature. Have to be patient here.
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If he wants to come take him
Is there any five star recruit we actually have a chance with next year
So far we cant close with a top ten recruit hopefully one day they can but not at this time
Wow, you're expectations might be JUST a tad high for SJU basketball
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I personally think he's a bit of a project but 1000% think its worth getting him to come here. His ceiling seems ridiculous and if mullin and the coaching staff can develop him, he could be special.
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I really have no clue about his recruitment but I'd imagine he's going to a UK, KU, or powerhouse. I think anyone outside of that will be on a goose chase.
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A month ago or less we had the inside track if we wanted him.....don't know if that's changed.
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I really have no clue about his recruitment but I'd imagine he's going to a UK, KU, or powerhouse. I think anyone outside of that will be on a goose chase.
That's surprising to hear because he basically a 3 star guy with upside.
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Kostas added to Nike Hoop Summit International Team for game v US on 4/9 in Portland.
http://www.sportando.com/en/usa/ncaa/195114/kostas-antetokounmpo-added-to-world-team-roster-for-nike-hoop-summit.html
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His HS team also won state championship.
http://fox6now.com/2016/03/22/kostas-antetokounmpo-helped-wfb-dominican-win-state-hes-also-won-big-brother-giannis-respect/
Seems like he'd be a great addition to the program...if we can land him.
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KA visit to SJU soon.
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Awesome development thanks paultz
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He reminds me some of Tomas Jasuloines and Amar Alibegovic.
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He reminds me some of Tomas Jasuloines and Amar Alibegovic.
Why, his long name?
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He reminds me some of Tomas Jasuloines and Amar Alibegovic.
Far less talented. :)
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Per Zach B
Also, St. John's is very much in the mix for talented wing Kostas Antetekounmpo. Expected to visit soon. #sjubb
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From Draft Express
Kostas will be in Portland, though, barring an injury or late roster withdrawal, it is unclear at the moment if he will ultimately participate in the Hoop Summit game itself, as he is designated as the 13th player on the roster. A senior at Dominican in Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin, Antetokounmpo is considering a number of high major offers.
Not all that unlike Giannis at the same stage, he is a late bloomer physically who sprouted up a few inches late in his high school career, and whose defense is currently ahead of his defense. The 6'10 small forward will participate in the practice sessions, giving him a chance to test his length and budding skill set alongside a loaded roster, in a very competitive setting. Considering the amount of NBA teams who will be present in the practice sessions, Kostas can help himself tremendously with a strong showing in the practices.
Jonathan Givony – @DraftExpress
The @nikehoopsummit World Team expanded to 13 players today, after a Greek player (w/a famous last name) was invited http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-International-Roster-Breakdown-5402 …
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Judging by Paultzman's new avatar, is it safe to say we are in very good shape for him?
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Zach B says we are probably better than 50 - 50 to land him
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Zach B says we are probably better than 50 - 50 to land him
I'll take it. 6'10" freak athlete with good pedigree, who can be developed here. High major athleticism.
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Zach B says we are probably better than 50 - 50 to land him
I'll take it. 6'10" freak athlete with good pedigree, who can be developed here. High major athleticism.
Good, not freakish athleticism. Not the same leaper that his brothers are, but still an intriguing prospect.
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Zach B says we are probably better than 50 - 50 to land him
I'll take it. 6'10" freak athlete with good pedigree, who can be developed here. High major athleticism.
Good, not freakish athleticism. Not the same leaper that his brothers are, but still an intriguing prospect.
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Not a 45 inch leap maybe like his brother but I think he's going to be bigger and hasn't grown into his body yet. He's already better than just a "good" athlete IMHO. Maybe not freakishly athletic like his brothers, but for a very young 6'10" kid, he's a very good athlete.
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Zach B says we are probably better than 50 - 50 to land him
I'll take it. 6'10" freak athlete with good pedigree, who can be developed here. High major athleticism.
Good, not freakish athleticism. Not the same leaper that his brothers are, but still an intriguing prospect.
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Not a 45 inch leap maybe like his brother but I think he's going to be bigger and hasn't grown into his body yet. He's already better than just a "good" athlete IMHO. Maybe not freakishly athletic like his brothers, but for a very young 6'10" kid, he's a very good athlete.
True. He might wind up being a center. Hope we get him
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Nike Hoop Summit – @nikehoopsummit
Meet the World Team:
Kostas Antetokounmpo, class of 2016, is representing the World Team at #HoopSummit
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Are we still expecting a visit from him?
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Are we still expecting a visit from him?
Yes
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Are we still expecting a visit from him?
Yes
Thank you, good to hear
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My VERY clear understanding is that as soon as SJU makes a commitment to him( if they decide to do so)he will commit to them
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My VERY clear understanding is that as soon as SJU makes a commitment to him he will commit to them
When I saw the timing of a post on KA thought you were going to say he just committed to Villanova. LOL
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My VERY clear understanding is that as soon as SJU makes a commitment to him( if they decide to do so)he will commit to them
Thanks 79. Any insight into the second half of that statement?
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Meaning that he only commits if we agree not to redshirt?
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I take it to mean if we want him he is ours but staff is waiting to see what there options are.
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My VERY clear understanding is that as soon as SJU makes a commitment to him( if they decide to do so)he will commit to them
Thanks 79. Any insight into the second half of that statement?
Staff is clearly waiting for Poison's approval.
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I take it to mean if we want him he is ours but staff is waiting to see what there options are.
Seems so. It should be noted again that Kostas was not targeted aggressively by his local school,Marquette, despite roster opening. It tells you he needs seasoning. In the old days he would be stashed in a prep school. With so much roster movement today, safer alternative seems to be redshirt route or just have him play minimally year one. Despite Kostas' upside, I can understand staff looking at all alternatives. We'll see soon enough.
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Thanks 79. Any insight into the second half of that statement?
Yeah, it was written by ee cummings
a commitment to him( if they decide to do so)he will commit to them
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Thanks 79. Any insight into the second half of that statement?
Yeah, it was written by ee cummings
a commitment to him( if they decide to do so)he will commit to them
This is St.John's. You were expecting Tolstoy?
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My VERY clear understanding is that as soon as SJU makes a commitment to him( if they decide to do so)he will commit to them
Thanks 79. Any insight into the second half of that statement?
Staff is clearly waiting for Poison's approval.
What's the matter buttercup? Itchy vag again?
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There is a much better shot at landing him than I originally anticipated.
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Is he 7 ' yet .
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I don't get what the hold up is. Since when are we in a position to turn away kids with his talent and potential?
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I don't get what the hold up is. Since when are we in a position to turn away kids with his talent and potential?
Perhaps the staff sees him as a bit redundant with Yakwe already on the roster and would prefer a more impact-ready transfer? KA clearly has potential, but is a project. Maybe there is some talk of redshirting or position expectations that need to be resolved.
I don't think I'd want this kid if he is hellbent on being a SF. The Sampson experience was too much, and his stats in high school are pretty terrible for a kid with his size and ranking (10.6 points 6.5 boards, 2.5 blocks).
He clearly doesn't have the same genetic freakish ability his brother has.
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I don't get what the hold up is. Since when are we in a position to turn away kids with his talent and potential?
Perhaps the staff sees him as a bit redundant with Yakwe already on the roster and would prefer a more impact-ready transfer? KA clearly has potential, but is a project. Maybe there is some talk of redshirting or position expectations that need to be resolved.
I don't think I'd want this kid if he is hellbent on being a SF. The Sampson experience was too much, and his stats in high school are pretty terrible for a kid with his size and ranking (10.6 points 6.5 boards, 2.5 blocks).
He clearly doesn't have the same genetic freakish ability his brother has.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPfGBNsqWUY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPfGBNsqWUY)
He gets some pretty high praise from Giannis in this video lol.
I obviously don't think he will ever be on the level of the Greek Freak, but if he's even half as good he will be one hell of a college player. I'd like to see the staff take a chance on him.
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I hear all these rumors but when are they actually going to visit SJU.
He is a top hundred recruit four star player and with height we should be jumping on him to visit
When is Simon going to visit
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The Sampson experience was too much
Yeah, god forbid we get another kid who averages 12 and 6 for two years and then goes on to play in the NBA.
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The biggest problem with Sampson was that from his freshman to his sophomore year he didn't get better. As is, he was a good player, and we'd be lucky to have another like him. But this staff is here because of the clear flaws we saw in the last one. Let this kid commit to us, and if he redshirts, the staff will have a great chance to show potential recruits that raw players improve with coaching.
Still, it's not all on the staff. The kid has to be a hard worker, and he has to listen. Lavin was far from a skillful game coach, but I seriously doubt he or anyone on the staff told Sampson to grab the rebound and dribble coast to coast whenever you feel like it. Without watching him in the NBA, I seriously doubt the Nuggets would give him a contract if he pulled that garbage in the league. Only Carmelo can pull that shit off and not get benched.
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The biggest problem with Sampson was that from his freshman to his sophomore year he didn't get better. As is, he was a good player, and we'd be lucky to have another like him. But this staff is here because of the clear flaws we saw in the last one. Let this kid commit to us, and if he redshirts, the staff will have a great chance to show potential recruits that raw players improve with coaching.
Still, it's not all on the staff. The kid has to be a hard worker, and he has to listen. Lavin was far from a skillful game coach, but I seriously doubt he or anyone on the staff told Sampson to grab the rebound and dribble coast to coast whenever you feel like it. Without watching him in the NBA, I seriously doubt the Nuggets would give him a contract if he pulled that garbage in the league. Only Carmelo can pull that shit off and not get benched.
Biggest problem with Sampson was he played for Sampson not team. Can't have kids auditioning for next stage over winning.
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The biggest problem with Sampson was that from his freshman to his sophomore year he didn't get better. As is, he was a good player, and we'd be lucky to have another like him. But this staff is here because of the clear flaws we saw in the last one. Let this kid commit to us, and if he redshirts, the staff will have a great chance to show potential recruits that raw players improve with coaching.
Still, it's not all on the staff. The kid has to be a hard worker, and he has to listen. Lavin was far from a skillful game coach, but I seriously doubt he or anyone on the staff told Sampson to grab the rebound and dribble coast to coast whenever you feel like it. Without watching him in the NBA, I seriously doubt the Nuggets would give him a contract if he pulled that garbage in the league. Only Carmelo can pull that shit off and not get benched.
Biggest problem with Sampson was he played for Sampson not team. Can't have kids auditioning for next stage over winning.
Yeah it was his fault the team lost, good point.
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Addition by subtraction is joked about on here. But last years team was better without Sampson then with him.
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Lavin was far from a skillful game coach, but I seriously doubt he or anyone on the staff told Sampson to grab the rebound and dribble coast to coast whenever you feel like
Maybe they said it to Pointer and Sampson misheard them.
Lavin was a garbage coach and Lavin's teams were garbage. Phil Greene was garbage for three years. Pointer was garbage for 3 plus years. Branch was garbage for four years. Sanchez stunk. Obekpa was a one dimensional psychopath. Polee, Amirovicowith, Jones, Gift, Balamou were at best ill used and at worst awful. Hooper and Bourgault were D2 stiffs.
Along with 2 or three other players (Jordan, Harrison, Harkless) Sampson wasn't garbage. Blaming Sampson for Lavin's failures or the team's failure is just nuts.
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Addition by subtraction is joked about on here. But last years team was better without Sampson then with him.
Zzzz. Teams that are one year older are almost always better than they were when they were one year younger. I thought you were a teacher? That's pedagogy in a nutshell, sixth graders are better at math than fifth graders, how'd you manage to miss that?
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Addition by subtraction is joked about on here. But last years team was better without Sampson then with him.
Zzzz. Teams that are one year older are almost always better than they were when they were one year younger. I thought you were a teacher? That's pedagogy in a nutshell, sixth graders are better at math than fifth graders, how'd you manage to miss that?
I don't disagree. My point is the team lost Sampson. And I don't think he sucked and got no one. And was better. They also lost the Dominican older player, who wasn't great but not bad and still were better.
Joey Delarosa played last year.
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Addition by subtraction is joked about on here. But last years team was better without Sampson then with him.
Doesn't mean Sampson was the problem. All of his NBA teams seem pretty pleased with him. With right coaching and using him properly perhaps he would have been a total stud here....
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Addition by subtraction is joked about on here. But last years team was better without Sampson then with him.
Zzzz. Teams that are one year older are almost always better than they were when they were one year younger. I thought you were a teacher? That's pedagogy in a nutshell, sixth graders are better at math than fifth graders, how'd you manage to miss that?
I don't disagree. My point is the team lost Sampson. And I don't think he sucked and got no one. And was better. They also lost the Dominican older player, who wasn't great but not bad and still were better.
Joey Delarosa played last year.
Addition by subtraction is joked about on here. But last years team was better without Sampson then with him.
Zzzz. Teams that are one year older are almost always better than they were when they were one year younger. I thought you were a teacher? That's pedagogy in a nutshell, sixth graders are better at math than fifth graders, how'd you manage to miss that?
I don't disagree. My point is the team lost Sampson. And I don't think he sucked and got no one. And was better. They also lost the Dominican older player, who wasn't great but not bad and still were better.
Joey Delarosa played last year.
2 primary reasons for this IMO:
1. WASJU harped on all season --- there were less quality players which equated to less ways Lavin could F the lineups up. He was forced to play his best and the right guys bc there was no other choice.
2. Sir'Dom improved SIGNIFICANTLY while the others all improved at least a bit. We had a BE Player of the YEar candidate on our team last year. We didnt the year before. Makes a big difference.
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Addition by subtraction is joked about on here. But last years team was better without Sampson then with him.
Zzzz. Teams that are one year older are almost always better than they were when they were one year younger. I thought you were a teacher? That's pedagogy in a nutshell, sixth graders are better at math than fifth graders, how'd you manage to miss that?
I don't disagree. My point is the team lost Sampson. And I don't think he sucked and got no one. And was better. They also lost the Dominican older player, who wasn't great but not bad and still were better.
Joey Delarosa played last year.
Okay. At the risk of sounding like a pretentious d bag - or more of one - that is an example of the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy: because A followed B, B caused A. Because my alarm clock went off before the sun rose the sun rose because my alarm clock went off. Correlation is not causation.
The team got better because they were all seniors - just like Lavin's only other successful team - and was bigger and stronger and more experienced than the teams they beat. The team got better because the light bulb went on for Dom Pointer, because Jordan played like a sophomore rather than a freshman, because Phil Greene started making more threes than he clanked. The team did not get better because the guy who averaged 13 points a game while shooting 50 percent from the floor went to the NBA. In fact, the team - which underachieved - might have been more successful had Sampson played Branch's minutes, because Branch was garbage.
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Thought there would be news on KA not Jakarr Sampson
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Lavins team underachieved w Sampson, not blaming Sampson. Taking half the season to find a lineup didn't help. Had the talent and depth to be tourney team. IMO
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Sampson was a fantastic individual talent and we sucked with him. Manhattan sucked with Jermaine Lawrence. I don't like 6'8 + combo forwards thinking they are Kevin Durant before they are ready. There are plenty of guys that end up developing from combo-type forwards into small forwards, but it's not an easy transition and it's tough in college with so many guards playing the three.
I'd rather have a smaller and less physically talented player with more skill like a Postell type.
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Sampson was a fantastic individual talent and we sucked with him. Manhattan sucked with Jermaine Lawrence. I don't like 6'8 + combo forwards thinking they are Kevin Durant before they are ready. There are plenty of guys that end up developing from combo-type forwards into small forwards, but it's not an easy transition and it's tough in college with so many guards playing the three.
I'd rather have a smaller and less physically talented player with more skill like a Postell type.
Lavor Postell was garbage his first two years at SJU. He was very good as as a junior and senior, when he averaged what Sampson did as a freshman.
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Sampson was a fantastic individual talent and we sucked with him. Manhattan sucked with Jermaine Lawrence. I don't like 6'8 + combo forwards thinking they are Kevin Durant before they are ready. There are plenty of guys that end up developing from combo-type forwards into small forwards, but it's not an easy transition and it's tough in college with so many guards playing the three.
I'd rather have a smaller and less physically talented player with more skill like a Postell type.
Lavor Postell was garbage his first two years at SJU. He was very good as as a junior and senior, when he averaged what Sampson did as a freshman.
Durand Johnson had similar averages. Someone has to get the stats. Postell embraced his role as a secondary scorer, rebounded like a mad man, defended with effort and did the little things. This new age of Durant wannabees only want to score like a SG.
Guys like Sampson come to campus and they are such athletic freaks that the coaches and teammates let them get away with murder. As soon as they can whipe their asses without falling over, they go pro, so it's a constant threat and gives them leverage in college. Sampson goes pro, and he becomes the secondary player he should have been at SJU, doing all of the little things to survive in the league. His leverage is gone.
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Sampson was a fantastic individual talent and we sucked with him. Manhattan sucked with Jermaine Lawrence. I don't like 6'8 + combo forwards thinking they are Kevin Durant before they are ready. There are plenty of guys that end up developing from combo-type forwards into small forwards, but it's not an easy transition and it's tough in college with so many guards playing the three.
I'd rather have a smaller and less physically talented player with more skill like a Postell type.
Lavor Postell was garbage his first two years at SJU. He was very good as as a junior and senior, when he averaged what Sampson did as a freshman.
Bite your tongue. If we had a player that could give us Lavor Postell's sophomore year, we'd have an all BE talent next year. He most certainly didn't suck as a sophomore. The improvement he made from his freshman year to his sophomore year is what this program should consider the gold standard.
In an ideal world, that is what Ellison can turn into. But he'll have to work his butt off to achieve it.
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Is KA going to visit or is any of the transfer going to visit.
Don't want the staff to get lazy like Lavin staff other than Tony Childs
I haven't really heard who the staff is after lately
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Is KA going to visit or is any of the transfer going to visit.
Don't want the staff to get lazy like Lavin staff other than Tony Childs
I haven't really heard who the staff is after lately
It's a dead period. What would like to hear?
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Loved postell as a kid. Beast.
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Loved postell as a kid. Beast.
"Loving" kids is illegal.
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lol let me rephrase... When I was a kid, I loved postell.
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Is KA going to visit or is any of the transfer going to visit.
Don't want the staff to get lazy like Lavin staff other than Tony Childs
I haven't really heard who the staff is after lately
Do you think you are entitled to hear something?
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Is KA going to visit or is any of the transfer going to visit.
Don't want the staff to get lazy like Lavin staff other than Tony Childs
I haven't really heard who the staff is after lately
Wow
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Durand Johnson had similar averages.
Uh huh. And Sampson had higher averages. Oops.
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Sampson was a fantastic individual talent and we sucked with him. Manhattan sucked with Jermaine Lawrence. I don't like 6'8 + combo forwards thinking they are Kevin Durant before they are ready. There are plenty of guys that end up developing from combo-type forwards into small forwards, but it's not an easy transition and it's tough in college with so many guards playing the three.
I'd rather have a smaller and less physically talented player with more skill like a Postell type.
Lavor Postell was garbage his first two years at SJU. He was very good as as a junior and senior, when he averaged what Sampson did as a freshman.
IMO, Postell was "garbage" his first season, but he played fairly decently his sophomore season. I recall him coming up huge in an early season game on the road versus Notre Dame during his sophomore campaign. I also recall games versus Miami and West Virginia where he played well. He also played solidly in the Big East Tournament, too. It's been nearly 20 years, so some things are kinda vague, but I do recall his game taking a big step from his freshmen season to his sophomore season. There use to be a site where you could view game-by-game individual stats, but it no longer exists.
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Is KA going to visit or is any of the transfer going to visit.
Don't want the staff to get lazy like Lavin staff other than Tony Childs
I haven't really heard who the staff is after lately
Do you think you are entitled to hear something?
Haha! He's trolling the forum.
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Is KA going to visit or is any of the transfer going to visit.
Don't want the staff to get lazy like Lavin staff other than Tony Childs
I haven't really heard who the staff is after lately
Do you think you are entitled to hear something?
Haha! He's trolling the forum.
And I'm sure you have your candidates of who is he.
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Is KA going to visit or is any of the transfer going to visit.
Don't want the staff to get lazy like Lavin staff other than Tony Childs
I haven't really heard who the staff is after lately
Do you think you are entitled to hear something?
Haha! He's trolling the forum.
And I'm sure you have your candidates of who is he.
Not at all. Rest assure, I'd say so, if I had an inkling. I've noticed him doing similar--a handful of times--to Zagoria and Braziller in the past on Twitter. Nevertheless, I sense he's "poking" for the fun of it, and intentionally "trolling" the forum.
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Sampson was a fantastic individual talent and we sucked with him. Manhattan sucked with Jermaine Lawrence. I don't like 6'8 + combo forwards thinking they are Kevin Durant before they are ready. There are plenty of guys that end up developing from combo-type forwards into small forwards, but it's not an easy transition and it's tough in college with so many guards playing the three.
I'd rather have a smaller and less physically talented player with more skill like a Postell type.
Lavor Postell was garbage his first two years at SJU. He was very good as as a junior and senior, when he averaged what Sampson did as a freshman.
Bite your tongue. If we had a player that could give us Lavor Postell's sophomore year, we'd have an all BE talent next year. He most certainly didn't suck as a sophomore. The improvement he made from his freshman year to his sophomore year is what this program should consider the gold standard.
Okay I made a mistake, alert the media. The larger point is that Sampson averaged
14.9 ppg / 6.6 rpg / .45 FG
12.8 ppg / 6.1 rpg / .50
Postell averaged
9.9 / 5.1 / .48
13.1 / 6.4 / .45
14.3 / 6.9 / .46
Sampson was as productive as a freshman and soph as than Postell was as a junior and senior and Postell played on just about the most talented SJ team since Lou coached. On Sampson's team the three guards shot under 40 percent from the floor and the two other forwards averaged 11 points and 8 rebounds between them. If Sampson was out for himself and auditioning for the NBA it's just a shame that he was the only one so motivated, the team might not have sucked as much as it did.
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One observation from Kostas' Nike Hoop Summit practice yesterday;
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nike-Hoop-Summit-practice-observations-44682538
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One observation from Kostas' Nike Hoop Summit practice yesterday;
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nike-Hoop-Summit-practice-observations-44682538
Seems the same verdict... Gonna be good but is raw. That is fine though, even if he doesn't want to redshirt. Redshirt definitely sounds better, but for years Uconn landed these very raw big men and brought them along so as juniors and seniors they were much different players. I wouldn't expect anything his first season anyway, but wouldn't hurt to have a kid with his height and athleticism coming off the bench.
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How does a 6'10 kid only average 10 and 6 as a senior in high school in Wisconsin? That is a red flag.
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One observation from Kostas' Nike Hoop Summit practice yesterday;
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nike-Hoop-Summit-practice-observations-44682538
Seems the same verdict... Gonna be good but is raw. That is fine though, even if he doesn't want to redshirt. Redshirt definitely sounds better, but for years Uconn landed these very raw big men and brought them along so as juniors and seniors they were much different players. I wouldn't expect anything his first season anyway, but wouldn't hurt to have a kid with his height and athleticism coming off the bench.
I know they are different players as far as their skill set, but Yakwe was (to my knowledge) regarded as very raw coming here, and while he wasn't great early he improved quickly and I think was the best freshman on the team. Because of the bit of a logjam we have at the 3 and 4, I would rather have KA as a redshirt, but definitely wouldn't pass him up if he didn't want that.
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One observation from Kostas' Nike Hoop Summit practice yesterday;
http://247sports.com/Bolt/Nike-Hoop-Summit-practice-observations-44682538
Seems the same verdict... Gonna be good but is raw. That is fine though, even if he doesn't want to redshirt. Redshirt definitely sounds better, but for years Uconn landed these very raw big men and brought them along so as juniors and seniors they were much different players. I wouldn't expect anything his first season anyway, but wouldn't hurt to have a kid with his height and athleticism coming off the bench.
I know they are different players as far as their skill set, but Yakwe was (to my knowledge) regarded as very raw coming here, and while he wasn't great early he improved quickly and I think was the best freshman on the team. Because of the bit of a logjam we have at the 3 and 4, I would rather have KA as a redshirt, but definitely wouldn't pass him up if he didn't want that.
Yakwe is a freak athlete with an absurd motor and willingness to play big. KA looks like he's got an awful motor (admittedly limited footage) or is just not quick at all....or both. He's also half the athlete of Yakwe. Unless he's willing to redshirt, what can he give us over Owens and Yakwe for the next three years?
Honestly, I'd pass. I'd rather have a 6'7 junkyard dog than another skinny project.
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Raising some eyebrows at Nike Hoop Summit practices;
https://basketballrecruiting.n.rivals.com/news/hoops-in-antetokounmpo-s-dna
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How does a 6'10 kid only average 10 and 6 as a senior in high school in Wisconsin? That is a red flag.
How does a 6-10 guy weigh 188 pounds in the land of Beer, Brats and cheese curds?
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How does a 6'10 kid only average 10 and 6 as a senior in high school in Wisconsin? That is a red flag.
How does a 6-10 guy weigh 188 pounds in the land of Beer, Brats and cheese curds?
He's remained true to his Mediterranean diet.
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Raising some eyebrows at Nike Hoop Summit practices;
https://basketballrecruiting.n.rivals.com/news/hoops-in-antetokounmpo-s-dna
Poorly researched article. It says there are three brothers and that Kostas is the youngest. There are five and Alex is the youngest.
I think most of his intrigue comes from being related to Gianis. I hate his quote about wanting to improve his handle and shot and playing 1-4. You're 6-10 and got six boards a game in Wisconsin! You need to work on rebounding and scoring with your back to the basket.
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Raising some eyebrows at Nike Hoop Summit practices;
https://basketballrecruiting.n.rivals.com/news/hoops-in-antetokounmpo-s-dna
Poorly researched article. It says there are three brothers and that Kostas is the youngest. There are five and Alex is the youngest.
I think most of his intrigue comes from being related to Gianis. I hate his quote about wanting to improve his handle and shot and playing 1-4. You're 6-10 and got six boards a game in Wisconsin! You need to work on rebounding and scoring with your back to the basket.
Apparently Matt differs. I personally agree he is raw & needs a few years of work, but I'll go with Matt's prognosis since he has seen him up close & over the past two seasons.
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Raising some eyebrows at Nike Hoop Summit practices;
https://basketballrecruiting.n.rivals.com/news/hoops-in-antetokounmpo-s-dna
Poorly researched article. It says there are three brothers and that Kostas is the youngest. There are five and Alex is the youngest.
I think most of his intrigue comes from being related to Gianis. I hate his quote about wanting to improve his handle and shot and playing 1-4. You're 6-10 and got six boards a game in Wisconsin! You need to work on rebounding and scoring with your back to the basket.
Non-Related: Love the subtle use of "In Wisconsin" in this post.
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ESPN2 3:00pm today, Nike Hoop Summit-- will be watching for KA
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We got to say another nickname for Kosta. KA = Kyle Anderson. 1 recruit I wish we landed.
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We got to say another nickname for Kosta. KA = Kyle Anderson. 1 recruit I wish we landed.
People only do that stuff because they are too lazy to type out names. LOL Just call him Kostas.
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GF3 or Kostas should suffice
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well world team might want to think about putting Kostas in... It can't hurt. They're getting housed.
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He needs several years of development, but worth the investment. From his limited time today thus far, he doesn't look like an interior player. That lines up with his self assessment. As MCN noted, this game is extremely one sided.
Btw, Terrance Ferguson looks awesome, shooter! Oh well.
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We got to say another nickname for Kosta. KA = Kyle Anderson. 1 recruit I wish we landed.
People only do that stuff because they are too lazy to type out names. LOL Just call him Kostas.
In this country Greeks shorten Kostas to Gus. :).
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Seem to remember a relative of Andy Sipowicz on NYPD Blue being named something like Kostas Kostas Kostas. Name was at least close and it was 3 of the same in a row.
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He hardly played in Hoop Summit but in mop up time Kostas hit a 3 & made two free throws. He seems to have a nice stroke and decent handle. At this point he does not look like a good rebounder. All in all, although tiny sample, I'm buying. :)
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In this country Greeks shorten Kostas to Gus. :).
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This is true. Any other Greek Johnnies here?
Paultzman, I am buying also.
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6-10 kid who can put it on the floor and play like a wing. Big upside.
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6-10 kid who can put it on the floor and play like a wing. Big upside.
+1
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Kostas Antetokounmpo: 8mins, 4pts, 1/2 FG, 2/2 FT, 1reb.
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Hmm.. I thought that shot he made in the corner was a 3... Must have been just over the line.
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See this guy's take on Kostas
http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/241499/Notes-From-The-2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit
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Yeah I'm still buyin too. He legitimately can handle the ball at his height, and there is little downside to developing a player like him. He could be a 4 year player that is real good by the end.
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Comprehensive evaluation by a very respected guy;
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Nike-Hoop-Summit-Scouting-Reports-Forwards-5434
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With Simon and Clark signed has the "ship" sailed on kostas?
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It seems as if its contingent on whether Livingston is signed
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With Simon and Clark signed has the "ship" sailed on kostas?
With the recent developments, this is looking like the trail to go (Livingston).
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Williams????????
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Crazy to think after how we were starving for talent this time last year now we might back off a 3/4 star kid who though very raw has high upside. I still like Kostas but there just might not be room for him unless Williams cannot play anymore.
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With Simon and Clark signed has the "ship" sailed on kostas?
I think we have enough projects. Either kick someone out, or let it go, and bring in a player in 17-18 who can tie his own shoes.
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Crazy to think after how we were starving for talent this time last year now we might back off a 3/4 star kid who though very raw has high upside. I still like Kostas but there just might not be room for him unless Williams cannot play anymore.
That's not crazy. It's just relative to what the staff could do at this time last year, which was practically nothing.
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Crazy to think after how we were starving for talent this time last year now we might back off a 3/4 star kid who though very raw has high upside. I still like Kostas but there just might not be room for him unless Williams cannot play anymore.
That's not crazy. It's just relative to what the staff could do at this time last year, which was practically nothing.
I'll stick to my previous comment. The change in talent level from one year to the next where we are turning down this kid possibly is crazy. There were years in the past we would have killed to have a kid with upside like this.
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Crazy to think after how we were starving for talent this time last year now we might back off a 3/4 star kid who though very raw has high upside. I still like Kostas but there just might not be room for him unless Williams cannot play anymore.
That's not crazy. It's just relative to what the staff could do at this time last year, which was practically nothing.
I'll stick to my previous comment. The change in talent level from one year to the next where we are turning down this kid possibly is crazy. There were years in the past we would have killed to have a kid with upside like this.
I'm not sure how much upside there is here. He looks pretty awkward to me. If think if he was so promising, more schools would be after him. Why don't Marquette and Wisconsin want him?
Justin Simon and Marvin Clark Jr, we can see that those guys can really play. They will be stars here. This kid doesn't look like he'll change the game very much for a long time.
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Crazy to think after how we were starving for talent this time last year now we might back off a 3/4 star kid who though very raw has high upside. I still like Kostas but there just might not be room for him unless Williams cannot play anymore.
That's not crazy. It's just relative to what the staff could do at this time last year, which was practically nothing.
I'll stick to my previous comment. The change in talent level from one year to the next where we are turning down this kid possibly is crazy. There were years in the past we would have killed to have a kid with upside like this.
I'm not sure how much upside there is here. He looks pretty awkward to me. If think if he was so promising, more schools would be after him. Why don't Marquette and Wisconsin want him?
Justin Simon and Marvin Clark Jr, we can see that those guys can really play. They will be stars here. This kid doesn't look like he'll change the game very much for a long time.
I think you may be on the money here. I liked his athleticsm and handle for a big guy, but some guys don't have the motor. I'm guessing might be more Jack Wolfinger than Darius Miles.
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Kostas has just published a new highlight reel out for his Senior Year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVI3XotSzWI&feature=youtu.be
Also Purdue is taking a hard look at Kostas
http://www.jconline.com/story/sports/college/purdue/basketball/2016/05/16/purdue-targeting-kostas-antetokounmpo/84429894/
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Kostas has just published a new highlight reel out for his Senior Year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVI3XotSzWI&feature=youtu.be
Also Purdue is taking a hard look at Kostas
http://www.jconline.com/story/sports/college/purdue/basketball/2016/05/16/purdue-targeting-kostas-antetokounmpo/84429894/
Not one shot with his back to the basket. His dribble couldn't possibly be any higher. No thanks.
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Why isn't Marquette on this kid?
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Why isn't Marquette on this kid?
Because he averages 10 ppg against teams JJ poster could beat.
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
He's an interesting subject - merely because of his older brothers... it's fun to speculate when the outcomes can be so varied. Plus it's the off, off season right now..
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
Maybe if you made a list of things you find interesting that'd help focus the discussion
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
He's an interesting subject - merely because of his older brothers... it's fun to speculate when the outcomes can be so varied. Plus it's the off, off season right now..
There has to be more to it than his genes. He's 6'8 or 6'9 and he put up 12.9 points per game while shooting 20% from three. What kind of competition did he go up against where 12.9 points per game is impressive? If he did that at Oak Hill, and every player on his team was a high major D1 prospect, ok then.
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
He's an interesting subject - merely because of his older brothers... it's fun to speculate when the outcomes can be so varied. Plus it's the off, off season right now..
You're right, sorry.
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
He's an interesting subject - merely because of his older brothers... it's fun to speculate when the outcomes can be so varied. Plus it's the off, off season right now..
You're right, sorry.
The most polite person on the boards. :up: :)
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
He's an interesting subject - merely because of his older brothers... it's fun to speculate when the outcomes can be so varied. Plus it's the off, off season right now..
You're right, sorry.
The most polite person on the boards. :up: :)
Paultzman definitely is the most polite person .
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
He's an interesting subject - merely because of his older brothers... it's fun to speculate when the outcomes can be so varied. Plus it's the off, off season right now..
You're right, sorry.
The most polite person on the boards. :up: :)
Paultzman definitely is the most polite person .
Pretty sure he was talking about me.
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Ship has sailed, so why bother talking about this kid.
He's an interesting subject - merely because of his older brothers... it's fun to speculate when the outcomes can be so varied. Plus it's the off, off season right now..
You're right, sorry.
The most polite person on the boards. :up: :)
Paultzman definitely is the most polite person .
Pretty sure he was talking about me.
Close second but there's always next year! :)
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did this kid land anywhere..?
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 4m4 minutes ago
Kostas Antetokounmpo -- younger brother of Giannis -- announced his commitment to Dayton.
FWIW - everybody on Twitter classifying this as a "great get" for Archie and co.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 4m4 minutes ago
Kostas Antetokounmpo -- younger brother of Giannis -- announced his commitment to Dayton.
FWIW - everybody on Twitter classifying this as a "great get" for Archie and co.
Every player is a great get on Twitter.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmDSMXjVAAAf03C.jpg:large
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Appropriate level IMO. Great program and great
coach. He couldn't have made a better decision. I can see Archie leaving in a year or two and bringing him to a bigger program if he's progressed.
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The fact that this is Archie's highest ranked recruit since being at Dayton is a testament to how great of a coach he really is. He's the crown jewel of young HC candidates nationally IMO.
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Appropriate level IMO. Great program and great
coach. He couldn't have made a better decision. I can see Archie leaving in a year or two and bringing him to a bigger program if he's progressed.
What do you mean appropriate level? Dayton is a top 25 team. That's several levels up from where we are.
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Appropriate level IMO. Great program and great
coach. He couldn't have made a better decision. I can see Archie leaving in a year or two and bringing him to a bigger program if he's progressed.
What do you mean appropriate level? Dayton is a top 25 team. That's several levels up from where we are.
A-10. Archie does more with less than most Big East schools. KA would rot at the bottom of most Big East rosters. He might end up rotting on Dayton too.
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Per Jon Rothstein
Dayton freshman Kostas Antetokounmpo has been ruled a partial qualifier by the NCAA, per release. Will redshirt this season.
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Per Jon Rothstein
Dayton freshman Kostas Antetokounmpo has been ruled a partial qualifier by the NCAA, per release. Will redshirt this season.
Gee, maybe that's why no one wanted him.
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Per Jon Rothstein
Dayton freshman Kostas Antetokounmpo has been ruled a partial qualifier by the NCAA, per release. Will redshirt this season.
Gee, maybe that's why no one wanted him.
Wouldn't say no one. Dayton is a pretty good program. Read he can not practice first semester.