6th Man of St. John's Basketball

St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marco Baldi on March 30, 2015, 08:02:54 AM

Title: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Marco Baldi on March 30, 2015, 08:02:54 AM
All things pointing towards him coming back. Good news. I think he will be the best player, if not than top 3 player in the Big East.  He and Sampson, along with Yawke and Diallo on board should keep us interesting.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Moose on March 30, 2015, 08:06:25 AM
All things pointing towards him coming back. Good news. I think he will be the best player, if not than top 3 player in the Big East.  He and Sampson, along with Yawke and Diallo on board should keep us interesting.

That would be a nice mix for sure.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: sju89tr on March 30, 2015, 11:23:27 AM
Not to change the subject but wonder what this means

Christian Jones ‏@Christian4Jones   18s18 seconds ago
My journey continues..

Getting back to topic, I think Jordan and Obekpa both come back . I think we keep Sampson and one of the two other recruits

Need to keep some ships available for bodies needed for next year so I don't expect both Samir and Sammy 
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 03, 2015, 03:00:22 PM
All things pointing towards him coming back. Good news. I think he will be the best player, if not than top 3 player in the Big East.  He and Sampson, along with Yawke and Diallo on board should keep us interesting.

Bump
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: P1NSTR1PEZ on April 03, 2015, 03:09:17 PM
Sheed just tweeted:

Im not in no Rush im hungry and humble....
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: desco80 on April 03, 2015, 03:11:52 PM
Hope Baldi's right about this one.   Would be fantastic news
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: MCNPA on April 05, 2015, 12:36:34 PM
Jordan bwck is good for all parties.  He needs to develop as a PG. 
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Poison on April 05, 2015, 12:51:47 PM
Not to change the subject but wonder what this means

Christian Jones ‏@Christian4Jones   18s18 seconds ago
My journey continues..

Getting back to topic, I think Jordan and Obekpa both come back . I think we keep Sampson and one of the two other recruits

Need to keep some ships available for bodies needed for next year so I don't expect both Samir and Sammy 

Jones is as bad at Twitter as he is at basketball.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: ras on April 05, 2015, 12:56:21 PM
Jordan bwck is good for all parties.  He needs to develop as a PG. 
We know that. But does he and his handlers know that?
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 05, 2015, 02:13:26 PM
Not to change the subject but wonder what this means

Christian Jones ‏@Christian4Jones   18s18 seconds ago
My journey continues..

Getting back to topic, I think Jordan and Obekpa both come back . I think we keep Sampson and one of the two other recruits

Need to keep some ships available for bodies needed for next year so I don't expect both Samir and Sammy 

Jones is as bad at Twitter as he is at basketball.

nice man
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: CC on April 05, 2015, 08:43:21 PM
All things pointing towards him coming back. Good news. I think he will be the best player, if not than top 3 player in the Big East.  He and Sampson, along with Yawke and Diallo on board should keep us interesting.

Who is Yawke?
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: valgoth on April 05, 2015, 10:10:42 PM
yakwe plays at OSNA also, very good prospect for 2016. Was thinking about reclassifying to 2015. He even talked about going with diallo in a package deal at one point.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: francois arouet on April 05, 2015, 10:27:45 PM
Do we know something about Diallo?  Yakwe, it seems, is Matt A's recruit.  He took 1 visit so far & it was to Iowa St.  I think we look good on Yakwe but not sure about Diallo.  He is a sharp kid.  He knows a lot of underclassmen are gonna declare from UK, & he might like some PT @ UK.

I think we'll field a squad regardless.  I've heard some things about Diallo & I am not sure he wants to be here @ this point, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: mullin85berry86 on April 06, 2015, 12:40:32 AM
Do we know something about Diallo?  Yakwe, it seems, is Matt A's recruit.  He took 1 visit so far & it was to Iowa St.  I think we look good on Yakwe but not sure about Diallo.  He is a sharp kid.  He knows a lot of underclassmen are gonna declare from UK, & he might like some PT @ UK.

I think we'll field a squad regardless.  I've heard some things about Diallo & I am not sure he wants to be here @ this point, unfortunately.

Oh well, we'll get some other very good player then if Diallo doen't come. No need to sweat it.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: francois arouet on April 06, 2015, 02:20:24 AM
There are other 4 star kids that aren't decided.  They said it was 8 @ the McD's event.  Mullin & Matt are going to that showcase in Dallas this week where there will be tons of 3 & 4 star guys.  And they are definitely getting in on the NYC kids who went juco route.  Then you have transfers.  Then you have the international scene, where Mullin is probably very popular among kids & parents who knew the way he played. 

And in the long run, they will be in on so many city/nj kids that percentages suggest we'd get a handful of kids if we knew we needed that many.  Mullin's job for many years was trying to make sure he did everything he could to advance the Warriors.  He comes with the same mentality, from the team building perspective.

Game coaching.  Absolutely no worries.  I think all told, he can be someone ppl look at like a Calipari in a few years.  The team is going to be very prepared next year, and he'll get a lot from the people he gets.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: CC on April 06, 2015, 12:34:40 PM
yakwe plays at OSNA also, very good prospect for 2016. Was thinking about reclassifying to 2015. He even talked about going with diallo in a package deal at one point.

thanks
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Johnny4Life on April 06, 2015, 01:25:39 PM
This is good news for not only us fans but I really do believe for him as well.

I was looking at the NBA draft prospects at the PG and SG positions last night and don't think he would make the first round if he declared this year.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: kingofk1ngs on April 06, 2015, 10:11:46 PM
@NYPost_Brazille
Told Rysheed Jordan situation should be resolved rather soon. He has met with Chris Mullin. #sjubb
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: P1NSTR1PEZ on April 06, 2015, 10:16:08 PM
I think Mullin is really making these kids believe in his vision.

The Rex Ryan impression I got from him at the presser is holding true.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: boo3 on April 06, 2015, 10:23:04 PM
Mullin can help Jordan prepare for the NBA in so many ways.   He'd be nuts to reject the opportunity to run the show for Chris and St Johns next season. 
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: boo3 on April 06, 2015, 10:43:23 PM
Good

https://twitter.com/wojyahoonba/status/585271132619669504
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: goredmen on April 06, 2015, 10:43:47 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA  ·  2m 2 minutes ago
St. John's guard Rysheed Jordan leaning toward return as a junior to play for Chris Mullin, sources tell Yahoo. He's considered NBA Draft.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: bball purist on April 06, 2015, 10:54:46 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA  ·  2m 2 minutes ago
St. John's guard Rysheed Jordan leaning toward return as a junior to play for Chris Mullin, sources tell Yahoo. He's considered NBA Draft.
"Johnny Jungle members also said he'd be crazy not to return"...lol
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 06, 2015, 11:10:13 PM
Haven't we known all this for over a week.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: paultzman on April 06, 2015, 11:24:53 PM
Jordan;

@____whynot: You can’t change the past, but you can make adjustments in your present for a better future.#WHYNOT💉 http://t.co/qQOJq2yJlD
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: lihoop on April 06, 2015, 11:27:13 PM
nice avatar Paultzman!!
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: cjfish on April 06, 2015, 11:39:19 PM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: STJ11Redmen on April 06, 2015, 11:41:05 PM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     

I don't think I've watched a game without  my computer/phone/tablet open in years. You should try it sometime.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: cjfish on April 06, 2015, 11:50:17 PM
I do it often but not for a big game, cant pick up the subtleties if you have 2 screens going.  Take some time off from your device during an important game and you would be surprised how much more you pick up.  Too many of us are becoming slaves to technology.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: francois arouet on April 07, 2015, 01:54:39 AM
extremely fortuitous.  Most talented kid on the team comes back.  It's gonna be fun watching him under Mullin.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: pmg911 on April 07, 2015, 07:51:53 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     

Vulgar Coach..?
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Poison on April 07, 2015, 07:58:53 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     

Vulgar Coach..?

Duke fans are the absolute worst in the game. But Coach K vulgar? You can call him a lot of names, but it was Ryan who acted like a sore loser. When Okafor and Winslow went down Duke had a scrub that I'd never even heard of step up, and that's the definition of a team. Wisconsin rushed and forced shots and stopped running a patient methodical offense. That's why they lost.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: LoganK on April 07, 2015, 08:03:00 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     
I do it often but not for a big game, cant pick up the subtleties if you have 2 screens going.  Take some time off from your device during an important game and you would be surprised how much more you pick up.  Too many of us are becoming slaves to technology.
I can't believe you were more interested in a Duke/Wisconsin game than you are in the future of our program.  I'm starting to believe you're not a true SJU fan.  Can't be watching a championship game and still concentrate on the state of our Johnnies.  It was a fantastic game to watch (from what I was told - I was on the site, so I couldn't pay attention).  In case you missed it, Jordan and Obekpa are likely coming back, and Slice is likely joining the staff.  Too bad he won't be bringing Briscoe, he plays ball the way it should be played but doesn't have the desire to rise with a team; would rather join a team that's already there. 
Also, you know television qualifies as technology, right?
;)
On a serious note, yea, the refs were horrible.  Otherwise known as, the refs were as expected for a Duke game.  Other than that, was a great game of basketball.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Poison on April 07, 2015, 08:13:05 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     
I do it often but not for a big game, cant pick up the subtleties if you have 2 screens going.  Take some time off from your device during an important game and you would be surprised how much more you pick up.  Too many of us are becoming slaves to technology.
I can't believe you were more interested in a Duke/Wisconsin game than you are in the future of our program.  I'm starting to believe you're not a true SJU fan.  Can't be watching a championship game and still concentrate on the state of our Johnnies.  It was a fantastic game to watch (from what I was told - I was on the site, so I couldn't pay attention).  In case you missed it, Jordan and Obekpa are likely coming back, and Slice is likely joining the staff.  Too bad he won't be bringing Briscoe, he plays ball the way it should be played but doesn't have the desire to rise with a team; would rather join a team that's already there. 
Also, you know television qualifies as technology, right?
;)
On a serious note, yea, the refs were horrible.  Otherwise known as, the refs were as expected for a Duke game.  Other than that, was a great game of basketball.

Briscoe is no different than most fans. It's easier to run to the front.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: pmg911 on April 07, 2015, 08:41:18 AM

On a serious note, yea, the refs were horrible.  Otherwise known as, the refs were as expected for a Duke game.  Other than that, was a great game of basketball.

Officiating was horrible during the entire Final Four
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Foad on April 07, 2015, 08:45:21 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     

Vulgar Coach..?

Duke fans are the absolute worst in the game. But Coach K vulgar? You can call him a lot of names, but it was Ryan who acted like a sore loser. When Okafor and Winslow went down Duke had a scrub that I'd never even heard of step up, and that's the definition of a team. Wisconsin rushed and forced shots and stopped running a patient methodical offense. That's why they lost.

Yeah that's why

FGS made

Wisc 25 (+1)
DoOk 24

3's made

Wisc 7 (+3)
DooK 4

Reb

Wisc 35 (+2)
Dewk 33

Assists

Wisc 13 (+6)
DoOk 7

TOs

Wisc 5 (even)
Dewk 5


FT

Wisc 6-10
DewK 16-20 (+10)
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: stjohnnie75 on April 07, 2015, 08:46:29 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     

Vulgar Coach..?

Duke fans are the absolute worst in the game. But Coach K vulgar? You can call him a lot of names, but it was Ryan who acted like a sore loser. When Okafor and Winslow went down Duke had a scrub that I'd never even heard of step up, and that's the definition of a team. Wisconsin rushed and forced shots and stopped running a patient methodical offense. That's why they lost.

That scrub you never heard of (Grayson Allen) was the #28 overall recruit coming out of HS last year. Didn't play too much this year but is going to have a very nice career at Duke.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: bball purist on April 07, 2015, 08:54:09 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     
I do it often but not for a big game, cant pick up the subtleties if you have 2 screens going.  Take some time off from your device during an important game and you would be surprised how much more you pick up.  Too many of us are becoming slaves to technology.
I can't believe you were more interested in a Duke/Wisconsin game than you are in the future of our program.  I'm starting to believe you're not a true SJU fan.  Can't be watching a championship game and still concentrate on the state of our Johnnies.  It was a fantastic game to watch (from what I was told - I was on the site, so I couldn't pay attention).  In case you missed it, Jordan and Obekpa are likely coming back, and Slice is likely joining the staff.  Too bad he won't be bringing Briscoe, he plays ball the way it should be played but doesn't have the desire to rise with a team; would rather join a team that's already there. 
Also, you know television qualifies as technology, right?
 ;)
On a serious note, yea, the refs were horrible.  Otherwise known as, the refs were as expected for a Duke game.  Other than that, was a great game of basketball.

Briscoe is no different than most fans. It's easier to run to the front.
Fans are worse if it has nothing to do with their careers and they're front running. NONE of us can ever be accused of that unless we are rooting for another squad we have zero connection to -  ;D
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: prjohnnies on April 07, 2015, 08:54:32 AM
Ha stole my thunder. Allen was a MCD's all-american - for all the KY talk, Duke had 8 on its roster. Allen played well in some games down the stretch and in the tourney. Not sure why he didn't get more burn earlier in the year. He saved that game last night when Wisconsin started pulling away and then Jones took them home.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: bball purist on April 07, 2015, 08:56:44 AM
Ha stole my thunder. Allen was a MCD's all-american - for all the KY talk, Duke had 8 on its roster. Allen played well in some games down the stretch and in the tourney. Not sure why he didn't get more burn earlier in the year. He saved that game last night when Wisconsin started pulling away and then Jones took them home.
And they only had 8 scholarship players on their roster.  I didn't know they had 8 McDs AAs
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Tha Kid on April 07, 2015, 09:16:04 AM
Unsung hero of the game was amile Jefferson.  His d on Kaminsky esp when okafor and Winslow were out was awesome.

Grayson Allen is a MCDs but he has looked absolutely clueless at times (and flashes of greatness at others). He and tyus jones have large cojones.

I get the Duke and coach K hatred Truat me, but gotta respect coach K.  He has the faith in guys like Plumlee jefferson and Allen at key junctures of the game to sit okafor and Winslow down 9 and slowly bring them back.  Duke didn't fold - they played as tough as confident as ever.  He is the best teacher and leader of men in the game and On a johnnies note, Chris Mullin names him as someone he wants to emulate.  I see a lot of those same qualities in chris that coach k has.  Great couple weeks for me in the basketball world.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Mike on April 07, 2015, 11:18:39 AM
Unsung hero of the game was amile Jefferson.  His d on Kaminsky esp when okafor and Winslow were out was awesome.

Grayson Allen is a MCDs but he has looked absolutely clueless at times (and flashes of greatness at others). He and tyus jones have large cojones.

I get the Duke and coach K hatred Truat me, but gotta respect coach K.  He has the faith in guys like Plumlee jefferson and Allen at key junctures of the game to sit okafor and Winslow down 9 and slowly bring them back.  Duke didn't fold - they played as tough as confident as ever.  He is the best teacher and leader of men in the game and On a johnnies note, Chris Mullin names him as someone he wants to emulate.  I see a lot of those same qualities in chris that coach k has.  Great couple weeks for me in the basketball world.
I actually don't mind Coach K, I would take him here anytime to be our coach. Most of the hate is out of jealously. But if he was here people would love him. Just like when we lose a recruit to say Slice, it's always about that brown bag. If slice comes here will we be talking about a brown bag when he lands a recruit? I doubt it. Lol
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Celtics11 on April 07, 2015, 11:24:37 AM
Ha stole my thunder. Allen was a MCD's all-american - for all the KY talk, Duke had 8 on its roster. Allen played well in some games down the stretch and in the tourney. Not sure why he didn't get more burn earlier in the year. He saved that game last night when Wisconsin started pulling away and then Jones took them home.
Had 9 Mac All Americans until they threw Sulimon off the team who probably ate up the PT Grayson didn't get while he was still on the team. Kentucky and Duke started season with most Mac All Americans ever with 9.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: cjfish on April 07, 2015, 11:30:59 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to









Vulgar Coach..?









Indeed, his language with the refs and the way he rides them is inexcusable but he gets away with it, particularly at Cameron, because of the Duke Mystique, largely a creation of Dick Vitale.  Doing it the "Duke way" in reality consists of a Vulgar coach who bends the rules.  What happened to the Duke way which was 4 year students.  He has more early outs than anyone, Ky only competes recently. THe student body, "The Cameron Crazies"  are the most obnoxious in the land and the administration gives them free rein.  Disgraceful, particularly for an academically elite institution.  FOR DETAILS GOOGLE THE "ANTI-DUKE MANIFESTO".  I Tried to attach it but it exceeded the size limits     
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Poison on April 07, 2015, 11:33:11 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     

Vulgar Coach..?

Duke fans are the absolute worst in the game. But Coach K vulgar? You can call him a lot of names, but it was Ryan who acted like a sore loser. When Okafor and Winslow went down Duke had a scrub that I'd never even heard of step up, and that's the definition of a team. Wisconsin rushed and forced shots and stopped running a patient methodical offense. That's why they lost.

Yeah that's why

FGS made

Wisc 25 (+1)
DoOk 24

3's made

Wisc 7 (+3)
DooK 4

Reb

Wisc 35 (+2)
Dewk 33

Assists

Wisc 13 (+6)
DoOk 7

TOs

Wisc 5 (even)
Dewk 5


FT

Wisc 6-10
DewK 16-20 (+10)

I said they stopped running a patient methodical offense. That doesn't mean that they didn't play that way for most of the game, which they did.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: jumpinjohnny on April 07, 2015, 11:35:20 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to.     

Vulgar Coach..?

He is an absolute beacon of integrity


"Then, on March 2, The Chronicle, the independent Duke student newspaper, published a story that drove Sulaimon further out of view. The story said that Krzyzewski and others in Duke’s athletic department knew Sulaimon had been accused by two women of sexual assault more than a year ago, but had kept him on the team until a student intern, Lincoln Wensley, learned of the allegations and raised questions."
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Tha Kid on April 07, 2015, 11:35:49 AM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to









Vulgar Coach..? 









Indeed, his language with the refs and the way he rides them is inexcusable but he gets away with it, particularly at Cameron, because of the Duke Mystique, largely a creation of Dick Vitale.  Doing it the "Duke way" in reality consists of a Vulgar coach who bends the rules.  What happened to the Duke way which was 4 year students.  He has more early outs than anyone, Ky only competes recently. THe student body, "The Cameron Crazies"  are the most obnoxious in the land and the administration gives them free rein.  Disgraceful, particularly for an academically elite institution.  FOR DETAILS GOOGLE THE "ANTI-DUKE MANIFESTO".  I Tried to attach it but it exceeded the size limits     

I didn't know you were the crying UNC fan!
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Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Johnny23 on April 07, 2015, 12:01:17 PM
Unsung hero of the game was amile Jefferson.  His d on Kaminsky esp when okafor and Winslow were out was awesome.

Grayson Allen is a MCDs but he has looked absolutely clueless at times (and flashes of greatness at others). He and tyus jones have large cojones.

I get the Duke and coach K hatred Truat me, but gotta respect coach K.  He has the faith in guys like Plumlee jefferson and Allen at key junctures of the game to sit okafor and Winslow down 9 and slowly bring them back.  Duke didn't fold - they played as tough as confident as ever.  He is the best teacher and leader of men in the game and On a johnnies note, Chris Mullin names him as someone he wants to emulate.  I see a lot of those same qualities in chris that coach k has.  Great couple weeks for me in the basketball world.

Without Grayson Allen, Duke doesn't cut down the nets. Wisky up by 9 and that kid's fearlessness and tough drives to the hoop sparked Duke to get back in the game.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Johnny4Life on April 07, 2015, 12:55:06 PM
And I am opening this thread today to think I am going to hear good news about Rysheed Jordan.  :D
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: thetruth8734 on April 07, 2015, 01:25:06 PM
So much Rysheed Jordan discussion in this thread...
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: bball purist on April 07, 2015, 01:28:03 PM
Cant believe you all are on this thread, reading twitters, etc. while the championship game is going on.  Im starting to believe most of you are not true hoop fans.  Cant be on your computer and concentrate on a game.  Im happy Jordan is apparently coming back bujt I could wait till 11:30 to check it out.  Did not hang around to watch the aftermath, hate Duke, it's vulgar coach, their preppy foulmouthed students with their sense of entitlement, and everything about the program.  Was a good game for those of you who missed it.  Too bad about the outcome, Wisc plays ball the way it should be played but did not have the athletic talent to pull it off, not to mention the ref job they fell victim to









Vulgar Coach..? 









Indeed, his language with the refs and the way he rides them is inexcusable but he gets away with it, particularly at Cameron, because of the Duke Mystique, largely a creation of Dick Vitale.  Doing it the "Duke way" in reality consists of a Vulgar coach who bends the rules.  What happened to the Duke way which was 4 year students.  He has more early outs than anyone, Ky only competes recently. THe student body, "The Cameron Crazies"  are the most obnoxious in the land and the administration gives them free rein.  Disgraceful, particularly for an academically elite institution.  FOR DETAILS GOOGLE THE "ANTI-DUKE MANIFESTO".  I Tried to attach it but it exceeded the size limits     

I didn't know you were the crying UNC fan!
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It'll start again in football next season - expectations are up ;D

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Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: carmineabbatiello on April 07, 2015, 02:26:36 PM

On a serious note, yea, the refs were horrible.  Otherwise known as, the refs were as expected for a Duke game.  Other than that, was a great game of basketball.

Officiating was horrible during the entire Final Four

Reffing basketball is very difficult.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Wods317 on April 07, 2015, 02:33:17 PM

On a serious note, yea, the refs were horrible.  Otherwise known as, the refs were as expected for a Duke game.  Other than that, was a great game of basketball.

Officiating was horrible during the entire Final Four

Reffing basketball is very difficult.

Keeping a thread on topic is very difficult. Lets talk about Rysheed.....
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: bball purist on April 07, 2015, 11:38:56 PM

On a serious note, yea, the refs were horrible.  Otherwise known as, the refs were as expected for a Duke game.  Other than that, was a great game of basketball.

Officiating was horrible during the entire Final Four

Reffing basketball is very difficult.

Keeping a thread on topic is very difficult. Lets talk about Rysheed.....
Refereeing Rysheed is difficult.

I am intrigued to see if somehow, some way,what Rysheed can do if he doesn't have any distractions next year.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Poison on April 07, 2015, 11:55:31 PM

On a serious note, yea, the refs were horrible.  Otherwise known as, the refs were as expected for a Duke game.  Other than that, was a great game of basketball.

Officiating was horrible during the entire Final Four

Reffing basketball is very difficult.

Keeping a thread on topic is very difficult. Lets talk about Rysheed.....
Refereeing Rysheed is difficult.

I am intrigued to see if somehow, some way,what Rysheed can do if he doesn't have any distractions next year.

Just like w Obekpa, Jordan has to take every game seriously. And, if he's going to get drafted, he's got to be a point guard, and make everyone else around him better. Erick Barkley and Omar Cook were two of the best point guards in the nation and they had a cup of coffee in the league. If he wants to stick, he's should work as hard as he can so that Rysheed Jordan as a lottery pick is a good idea.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: francois arouet on April 08, 2015, 12:10:52 AM
Jordan has a lot better size/athleticism/quickness than Barkley & Cook.  They were natural point guards.  Jordan played quite well with the ball in his hands, esp in 2013-2014.  He also showed an ability to set up Obekpa that no one else on the team displayed.

Does it make him a point guard?  We obviously need to recruit one for this year.  Mostly all these draft picks are projects of one sort or other though, & Jordan was getting past people at will late in the season, & is probably viewed as having very good potential as a combo player.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: scoobydoo on April 08, 2015, 12:34:28 AM
To me it's pretty simple for Jordan.  Lock yourself in the gym for the next year and work your tail off.  Forget your friends, your girl and all the other distractions in your life and concentrate on basketball.  Clean up that handle, make sure that jumper is consistent and get in the weight room. 

When he came back from his leave it was clear he started to focus more on basketball evident by his improvement in shooting (Free Throws/Threes) and his ability to take care of the ball. 

Has wonderful size and athleticism but now it's time to put it all together and get to the league. 
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Poison on April 08, 2015, 01:43:48 AM
Jordan has a lot better size/athleticism/quickness than Barkley & Cook.  They were natural point guards.  Jordan played quite well with the ball in his hands, esp in 2013-2014.  He also showed an ability to set up Obekpa that no one else on the team displayed.

Does it make him a point guard?  We obviously need to recruit one for this year.  Mostly all these draft picks are projects of one sort or other though, & Jordan was getting past people at will late in the season, & is probably viewed as having very good potential as a combo player.

I agree that Jordan has a ton of natural ability, but his basketball IQ isn't comparable to Barkley and Cook. They made their teammates look as good as they ever would. Jordan has the ability to break down his defender and go strong to the basket, and he does that quite a bit. But we need him to either run the offense or play off the ball. If he's the point, and he's looking for his own shot constantly with Pointer and Harrison on the floor, what's going to happen when he's got Balamou and Jones to throw it to?
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Celtics11 on April 08, 2015, 01:59:50 AM
Jordan has a lot better size/athleticism/quickness than Barkley & Cook.  They were natural point guards.  Jordan played quite well with the ball in his hands, esp in 2013-2014.  He also showed an ability to set up Obekpa that no one else on the team displayed.

Does it make him a point guard?  We obviously need to recruit one for this year.  Mostly all these draft picks are projects of one sort or other though, & Jordan was getting past people at will late in the season, & is probably viewed as having very good potential as a combo player.

I agree that Jordan has a ton of natural ability, but his basketball IQ isn't comparable to Barkley and Cook. They made their teammates look as good as they ever would. Jordan has the ability to break down his defender and go strong to the basket, and he does that quite a bit. But we need him to either run the offense or play off the ball. If he's the point, and he's looking for his own shot constantly with Pointer and Harrison on the floor, what's going to happen when he's got Balamou and Jones to throw it to?
Hopefully not throw it to Balamou or Jones.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: desco80 on April 08, 2015, 10:20:18 AM
You guys are severely underrating Rysheed's court vision.   The guy makes plays for others.   
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Wods317 on April 08, 2015, 10:51:11 AM
To me it's pretty simple for Jordan.  Lock yourself in the gym for the next year and work your tail off.  Forget your friends, your girl and all the other distractions in your life and concentrate on basketball.  Clean up that handle, make sure that jumper is consistent and get in the weight room. 

When he came back from his leave it was clear he started to focus more on basketball evident by his improvement in shooting (Free Throws/Threes) and his ability to take care of the ball. 

Has wonderful size and athleticism but now it's time to put it all together and get to the league. 
Great points. If he comes back he will either need to have razor sharp focus and only care about school and basketball during the season. He has the ability with his handle, shooting, passing and driving to be a first round pick if he works his ass off and listens to Chris and the other coaches. Or he could miss practice, go home, turn the ball over, not improve his shoot and be kicked off the team or leave mid season. I wish I could talk to him and express how this year will probably dictate the rest of his professional life. I hope he focuses both for himself and for the program.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: boo3 on April 08, 2015, 10:57:55 AM
IMO, Sheed's biggest weakness as a PG is his handle.   Just not tight enough for a big time PG.   He'd get ripped left and right at NBA level. 
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: desco80 on April 08, 2015, 11:04:42 AM
IMO, Sheed's biggest weakness as a PG is his handle.   Just not tight enough for a big time PG.   He'd get ripped left and right at NBA level. 

Agree Boo.   Going into this season, or even going into January I would've said it was his jumpshot, but that steadily improved throughout the season.   
Tighten up the handle, and work on going left occasionally. 
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: paultzman on April 08, 2015, 11:06:09 AM
IMO, Sheed's biggest weakness as a PG is his handle.   Just not tight enough for a big time PG.   He'd get ripped left and right at NBA level. 

Agree, his handle & high dribble merit improvement. I personally like him off the ball, posting up & cutting off screens. That said, unless we come up with a true PG, he may have to play there.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: desco80 on April 08, 2015, 11:08:25 AM
I like him on the ball because I think he runs that high pick and roll about as well as anyone.   He's adept at turning the corner, and he has an eye for finding his big man rolling to the tin. 
That said, he does a lot of damage when he can post up smaller guards. 
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: hnk on April 08, 2015, 11:13:11 AM
A few times from the wing he penetrated along the baseline...when help came...he assisted to Dom cutting down the lane from the foul line or even top of the key.....plays of beauty.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Poison on April 08, 2015, 12:50:45 PM
Jordan reminds me of Michael Redd. He can put it on the floor and get to the rack, and he can hit the three from all over the court. As a point guard, his penetration skills aren't resulting in plays for other players. That's a scoring guard. Nothing wrong with that, but let's put a pass first player at the point. Anthony Collins is available. We could do worse.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Poison on April 08, 2015, 12:51:42 PM
IMO, Sheed's biggest weakness as a PG is his handle.   Just not tight enough for a big time PG.   He'd get ripped left and right at NBA level. 

Gene told me that the staff tried to get him to play lower down to the ground. He didn't listen.
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: QuanMan on April 10, 2015, 03:06:25 PM
Sheed's in the midst of one of his classic Twitter tangents, I try not to read into it too much but see below:

blackjesus @____whynot  ·  5m 5 minutes ago
Somethings I do is because I have too..

blackjesus @____whynot  ·  7m 7 minutes ago
My decision I make is best for me not based on what others think....,
 
blackjesus
‏@____whynot
Hard time like this I will never forget!
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: bball purist on April 11, 2015, 12:44:45 AM
Sheed's in the midst of one of his classic Twitter tangents, I try not to read into it too much but see below:

blackjesus @____whynot  ·  5m 5 minutes ago
Somethings I do is because I have too..

blackjesus @____whynot  ·  7m 7 minutes ago
My decision I make is best for me not based on what others think....,
 
blackjesus
‏@____whynot
Hard time like this I will never forget!
@BlackYoda ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Rysheed Jordan
Post by: Aknel79 on April 11, 2015, 05:10:31 AM
I honestly believe that he will flourish if the team actually runs an offense, unlike lavin. Have him handle some, and run plays for him while off the ball