6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marco Baldi on February 28, 2015, 02:18:04 PM
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No longer does this belong in the college and sports section! Now we can relax on selection Sunday and only worry about seeding
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I'm not comfortable saying that unless we beat Marquette. Can't get in on a 3 game losing streak including a bad loss.
Huge win but let's make sure there is no doubt...
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Seth Davis just said Big East is getting 6 in. I think we are in
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For everyone who says Baldi isn't a fan.. look at his posts in this thread.
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If anyone has to worry, I think it's Xavier
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Just left the game . Very happy. Can't lose to Marquette . Good teams can't lose to bad teams in March . Goal is not to make the tournament . Goal is to make some noise in March.
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Just left the game... 2nd win I have seen (syracuse). So pumped up about these seniors. Let's go Johnnies!!!
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If anyone has to worry, I think it's Xavier
On cue, they are beating nova by 7 at half
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No longer does this belong in the college and sports section! Now we can relax on selection Sunday and only worry about seeding
As Louie would say--don't put the horns on us. Gotta beat MU because Nova will be near impossible ad then we draw Friars in BE tournament; trying to beat a team 3 times is really difficult.
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Villanova deserve a 1 seed?
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Villanova deserve a 1 seed?
I think so. Why have they never been mentioned?
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IMO, too early to tell. If they win big east reg season and tourney, absolutely.
Villanova deserve a 1 seed?
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IMO, too early to tell. If they win big east reg season and tourney, absolutely.
Villanova deserve a 1 seed?
Ya someone has to lose the ACC tourney
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IMO, too early to tell. If they win big east reg season and tourney, absolutely.
Villanova deserve a 1 seed?
Agreed! UvA and Duke could lose in semis playing better teams. However if nova wins big east, that mean we didn't. 😜
Ya someone has to lose the ACC tourney
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I think we still have work to do. 10 wins gets us in, but 9-9 might not, and we wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on. The celebrating needs to end tomorrow and they have to beat the hell out of a bad Marquette team. Our history says we sleep on games like these. It's another hurdle for these guys. Marquette is bad, but that doesn't mean they can't have a great night. Even Norm had his moments.
When they win 10 conference games, we can talk tournanent.
Until them, I'm looking forward to seeing our 4th straight win over Marquette after getting beaten by them for years.
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I think we still have work to do. 10 wins gets us in, but 9-9 might not, and we wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on. The celebrating needs to end tomorrow and they have to beat the hell out of a bad Marquette team. Our history says we sleep on games like these. It's another hurdle for these guys. Marquette is bad, but that doesn't mean they can't have a great night. Even Norm had his moments
When they win 10 conference games, we can talk tournanent.
Until them, I'm looking forward to seeing our 4th straight win over Marquette after getting beaten by them for years.
A win at Marquette would definitely rap it up and keep us out of any playin game.
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
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Lunadi also saying Syracuse would not be in had it be eligible, yet
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
Lol. He also just went on a rant how Syracuse players should not be penalized for something that happened years ago. Specifically Christmas and Cooney. I kind of agree
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
Lol. He also just went on a rant how Syracuse players should not be penalized for something that happened years ago. Specifically Christmas and Cooney. I kind of agree
Yeah I agree, but really no way around it.
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
Lol. He also just went on a rant how Syracuse players should not be penalized for something that happened years ago. Specifically Christmas and Cooney. I kind of agree
Yeah I agree, but really no way around it.
Something that happened in 2007?
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
Lol. He also just went on a rant how Syracuse players should not be penalized for something that happened years ago. Specifically Christmas and Cooney. I kind of agree
Yeah I agree, but really no way around it.
Something that happened in 2007?
So they should get a free pass?
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
Lol. He also just went on a rant how Syracuse players should not be penalized for something that happened years ago. Specifically Christmas and Cooney. I kind of agree
Yeah I agree, but really no way around it.
Something that happened in 2007?
So they should get a free pass?
Well it was 8 years ago.
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
Lol. He also just went on a rant how Syracuse players should not be penalized for something that happened years ago. Specifically Christmas and Cooney. I kind of agree
Yup Syracuse took the cowards way out. Let those guys stand and take a bullet. If the ncaa doesn't penalize them further it is a joke.
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I think Duke might be the only team able to beat Kentucky. Tyus Jones might be the best player in the nation right now
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Lunadi also saying Syracuse would not be in had it be eligible, yet
I think if they finish .500 in conference that's an NIT team.
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
Lol. He also just went on a rant how Syracuse players should not be penalized for something that happened years ago. Specifically Christmas and Cooney. I kind of agree
Yup Syracuse took the cowards way out. Let those guys stand and take a bullet. If the ncaa doesn't penalize them further it is a joke.
Didn't they do what we did in 04-05?
In terms of penalizing current players for what previous players did, how do we know that the current players are innocent?
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If anyone has to worry, I think it's Xavier
I'm srill nervous anmd won't relax until it's a sure bet thjat we are in.
Just 1 more f'ing win. 1 more
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I agree. I'm not going to pop my NCAA champagne until we get 1 more win. Although we re probably in.
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SJU beating GT is awesome but making the tournament should be a given at this point. The goal should be winning at least one goal in the tournament if not more. We were ranked as high as 15....this team deserves credit for bending and not breaking in the middle of the season.
However Lavin deserves blame if we don't get out of the the first round of the NCAA tournament. Making it to the first round with norm guys was an achievement, being bounced in the first round with his guys is a disappointment.
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I think they'll still be hyped for the two remaining road games and the BET. Winning the Big East Tournament should not be out of their minds.
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Vitale yelling at Lunadi that Pitt deserves to be in
Vitale pulling for the ACC? No way, lol
Lol. He also just went on a rant how Syracuse players should not be penalized for something that happened years ago. Specifically Christmas and Cooney. I kind of agree
Yup Syracuse took the cowards way out. Let those guys stand and take a bullet. If the ncaa doesn't penalize them further it is a joke.
Didn't they do what we did in 04-05?
In terms of penalizing current players for what previous players did, how do we know that the current players are innocent?
That is true poision, we dont know whats gone on with the current guys.
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No longer does this belong in the college and sports section! Now we can relax on selection Sunday and only worry about seeding
Marco please tell me you are not trying to put the jinx on us. Below is what you posted one week ago - 3 out of 4 AND help. Now we are solidly in with just two? What made you change your mind?
IMO. Absolutely need to beat Xavier and Marquette, and split the Nova/Grown. We need help too. That D2 win is biting us in the arse, useless game
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SJU beating GT is awesome but making the tournament should be a given at this point. The goal should be winning at least one goal in the tournament if not more. We were ranked as high as 15....this team deserves credit for bending and not breaking in the middle of the season.
However Lavin deserves blame if we don't get out of the the first round of the NCAA tournament. Making it to the first round with norm guys was an achievement, being bounced in the first round with his guys is a disappointment.
Already setting up Lavin to be blamed for a potential loss a few weeks away. I hope you enjoyed yesterday's game, as much as you will be disappointed with our final loss of the season. Our coaches always disappoint us then.
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No longer does this belong in the college and sports section! Now we can relax on selection Sunday and only worry about seeding
Marco please tell me you are not trying to put the jinx on us. Below is what you posted one week ago - 3 out of 4 AND help. Now we are solidly in with just two? What made you change your mind?
IMO. Absolutely need to beat Xavier and Marquette, and split the Nova/Grown. We need help too. That D2 win is biting us in the arse, useless game
I've been following the "experts" closely. Every time they mention Big East, they say 6 teams are getting in. If they are wrong and it's only 5, imo Xavier is odd man out. Combine that with the weakest bubble we've seen in years, I think St Johns has done enough. We got some help also.
Obviously if Marquette blows us out we may take a step back in seeding, maybe play in seed 11, but I don't see that happening. Nova I have chalked up for a loss as well as 1 win in BET
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SJU beating GT is awesome but making the tournament should be a given at this point. The goal should be winning at least one goal in the tournament if not more. We were ranked as high as 15....this team deserves credit for bending and not breaking in the middle of the season.
However Lavin deserves blame if we don't get out of the the first round of the NCAA tournament. Making it to the first round with norm guys was an achievement, being bounced in the first round with his guys is a disappointment.
Already setting up Lavin to be blamed for a potential loss a few weeks away. I hope you enjoyed yesterday's game, as much as you will be disappointed with our final loss of the season. Our coaches always disappoint us then.
Yes I did enjoy yesterday's victory greatly and I hope Lavin and the team keep winning so that their seeding keeps improving. They need to keep winning to remove the should to defiantly be in the tournament. Your saying that you will be happy with being in one game, and igborebthe fact that we havn't one a tournament game in a decade?
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Not being happy if we lose in the first round and the season being a disappointment are not the same thing.
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Not being happy if we lose in the first round and the season being a disappointment are not the same thing.
At they point they are and it could cost Lavin his job. Being ranked as high as 15 then being on the outside of the tournament to now being most likely in the tournament is an example of an up and down season. Not saying they have to go to the finals to have a succesful year, but not winning a game especially with a veteran team would be disappointing.
NYP has an interesting take on this as well.
http://nypost.com/2015/02/28/breaking-down-potential-historic-march-madness-for-ny-area/
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Not being happy if we lose in the first round and the season being a disappointment are not the same thing.
At they point they are and it could cost Lavin his job. Being ranked as high as 15 then being on the outside of the tournament to now being most likely in the tournament is an example of an up and down season. Not saying they have to go to the finals to have a succesful year, but not winning a game especially with a veteran team would be disappointing.
NYP has an interesting take on this as well.
http://nypost.com/2015/02/28/breaking-down-potential-historic-march-madness-for-ny-area/
That it would cost Lavin his job is pure speculation. I speculate that it wouldn't. In any event, we will never know since this team will win at least one tournament game.
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I remember alot of Louies teams getting bounced early also. We are a team athletically no one is going to want to play. We also have the ability to morph our style to go 4 guards making us very difficult to press. The one time Gtown tried their vaunted press it ended in a layup and that ended that.
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Anyone besides me crazy and want to be an 8 seed matched up w Kentucky in round 2?
We'd probbaly be creamed but outside of making a run to the final four a win would be remembered forever.
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Anyone besides me crazy and want to be an 8 seed matched up w Kentucky in round 2?
We'd probbaly be creamed but outside of making a run to the final four a win would be remembered forever.
I'm one of the most optimistic posters on here, but...
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I want nothing to do with Kentucky.
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I want nothing to do with Kentucky.
Ditto. Unless, it's in the Final Four. :)
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Need to play teams without much size and hope they have bad shooting days.
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I don't mind size if they have limited athleticism. A team with both poses a big problem for us.
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Anyone besides me crazy and want to be an 8 seed matched up w Kentucky in round 2?
We'd probbaly be creamed but outside of making a run to the final four a win would be remembered forever.
You're crazy. And I kinda like it.
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I bet we end up Virginia's bracket
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Need to play teams without much size and hope they have bad shooting days.
I don't mind size if they have limited athleticism. A team with both poses a big problem for us.
Georgetown and Providence are very big, athletic teams. Not Kentucky big and athletic, but big and athletic.
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I think over the course of the season we've found ways to play against bigger teams. I think a rematch with Gonzaga would be a nice matchup if we end up a 7 or a 10.
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I think over the course of the season we've found ways to play against bigger teams. I think a rematch with Gonzaga would be a nice matchup if we end up a 7 or a 10.
Of all teams, Palm's bracketology has us facing Purdue, with Hammonds and Haas to contend with if that comes true...
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SJU beating GT is awesome but making the tournament should be a given at this point. The goal should be winning at least one goal in the tournament if not more. We were ranked as high as 15....this team deserves credit for bending and not breaking in the middle of the season.
However Lavin deserves blame if we don't get out of the the first round of the NCAA tournament. Making it to the first round with norm guys was an achievement, being bounced in the first round with his guys is a disappointment.
And having your best or 2nd best player hurt in that game and not playing was disappointing too... maybe Lavin could have performed a miracle and made DJ healthy for that game...
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Lunardi has us as an 8 now facing Texas A&M with Duke in Round 2...
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yea - here is the bracket http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
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Lunardi has us as an 8 now facing Texas A&M with Duke in Round 2...
I'd sign up for that. I'd hope St. John's fans would travel to Charlotte for that.
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Lunardi has us as an 8 now facing Texas A&M with Duke in Round 2...
I'd sign up for that. I'd hope St. John's fans would travel to Charlotte for that.
I would be there!
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I still think they will put us in Virginia bracket
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I still think they will put us in Virginia bracket
Why? Just avoid Duke and gonzaga ? Is want out of 8/9 slot.
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I still think they will put us in Virginia bracket
Why? Just avoid Duke and gonzaga ? Is want out of 8/9 slot.
I think there is some truth about the committee wanting to avoid rematches in the opening 2 rounds
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Lunardi has us as an 8 now facing Texas A&M with Duke in Round 2...
I'd sign up for that. I'd hope St. John's fans would travel to Charlotte for that.
Dave, St.John's fans don't travel to 7th avenue. You think they'd travel to Charlotte?
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Virginia vs cuse. Virginia has 2 points with 7 mins left in half. Let's get in that bracket
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Groupon has deals across the country for NCAA games. I just went on googled and did a search,
Dayton
Portland
Syracuse
Pittsburgh
Charlotte
Jacksonville
Houston
Columbus
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=groupon+men's+basketball+championship&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=X&as_q=&spell=1&ei=IZX3VKXZHMiqggStkIHgDQ&ved=0CBEQBSgA
there are a couple of more links on the second page
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Lunardi has us as an 8 now facing Texas A&M with Duke in Round 2...
I'd sign up for that. I'd hope St. John's fans would travel to Charlotte for that.
Dave, St.John's fans don't travel to 7th avenue. You think they'd travel to Charlotte?
They definitely did this past weekend. Game was PACKED.
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Gtown was the best crowd we have had since the Pitt/Hardy game.
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Gtown was the best crowd we have had since the Pitt/Hardy game.
Better than the Duke game this year?
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Gtown was the best crowd we have had since the Pitt/Hardy game.
Better than the Duke game this year? The placed was packed during the Duke game. But much more SJU fans at the GT game.
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Duke game had a bigger crowd but a lot of Duke/neutral fans.
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Crowds were great at the Duke game this year, Cuse last year, etc but those two teams travel so well I didn't consider them.
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You ladies relaxed now or what? Going to be a great few weeks!
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Stony Brook 1 win away from bid
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Hoping for a ton of NY teams! Would be really fun.
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Stony Brook 1 win away from bid
Stony Brook 1 win away from bid
No shot. Danes are gonna wax them!
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Can't wait for Iona-Manhattan tn.
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Any chance we snag a 6 seed with a win over providence? Jerry Palm already has us as a 6 seed
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Any chance we snag a 6 seed with a win over providence? Jerry Palm already has us as a 6 seed
Yes. Lots of variables though...
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I think we have to play Saturday for a 6. Beat providence for a 7 and play nova close. Lose Thursday I think we are 9/10.
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I think we have to play Saturday for a 6. Beat providence for a 7 and play nova close. Lose Thursday I think we are 9/10.
I think we're an 7 or 8 seed at the moment. Lose Thursday, and we're probably 8 or 9 (it doesn't matter in that scenario). Win Thursday, and we're a solid 7, IMO. Win Friday, and we're a 6. Win Saturday, and we could possibly end up being a 5 seed. Mainly, I think a 6 is our ceiling, while 9 is the floor.
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I'd much rather be a 10 or 11 than a 8 or 9. We either want a 6/7 or a 10/11.
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I'd much rather be a 10 or 11 than a 8 or 9. We either want a 6/7 or a 10/11.
Y'all can forget about being a 10 or 11. Those are mainly reserved for mid-majors and high-majors who barely got into the tournament. More than likely, we're gonna end up being anywhere from a 6 to 9 seed.
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I think if Xavier gets in, they will be 10 plus seed
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I'd much rather be a 10 or 11 than a 8 or 9. We either want a 6/7 or a 10/11.
Y'all can forget about being a 10 or 11. Those are mainly reserved for mid-majors and high-majors who barely got into the tournament. More than likely, we're gonna end up being anywhere from a 6 to 9 seed.
Think you are right MJ, but if we lose to PC and a couple of these bubble teams do very well in conf tourneys, being the "best" 10 might be a legit possibility. I agree we are probably a 9 at worst. Win v PC and should be a 7. Thats the goal.
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Currently in Palm's bracketology on CBSSPORTS, we are a 6 seed playing Purdue, with Maryland as the 3 seed. I personally feel like Maryland is the easiest 3 or 4 seed to play by far. I think right now we are a 7 or 8, but maybe we can improve on that and get a 6 seed. Hope we get Maryland no matter where we are, feel we match up great against them.
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Snazzy...I thought that about Maryland too but Dez Wells is playing off the charts lately. Would be interesting matchup between him and Dom...and Trimble/Jordan
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Snazzy...I thought that about Maryland too but Dez Wells is playing off the charts lately. Would be interesting matchup between him and Dom...and Trimble/Jordan
I just feel we match up well with them. They also have no NCAA tournament experience either, and the other 3 seeds I feel are much better. Obviously I'd rather play any of the 3 seeds over the 1s or 2s, because the top 8 teams are a step above IMO.
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I'd much rather be a 10 or 11 than a 8 or 9. We either want a 6/7 or a 10/11.
Y'all can forget about being a 10 or 11. Those are mainly reserved for mid-majors and high-majors who barely got into the tournament. More than likely, we're gonna end up being anywhere from a 6 to 9 seed.
Think you are right MJ, but if we lose to PC and a couple of these bubble teams do very well in conf tourneys, being the "best" 10 might be a legit possibility. I agree we are probably a 9 at worst. Win v PC and should be a 7. Thats the goal.
I think a 9 seed is the floor, but otherwise agree. I think this providence game has big ncaa implications. A loss and sju is potentially an 8/9 seed, whereas a win locks us in at no lower than a 7, since we would get a good win and then our loss would be to nova, which doesn't hurt at all (possibly even a 6 if that happens).
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I'd like to avoid the 8/9 game with a #1 lurking two days later.
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I'd like to avoid the 8/9 game with a #1 lurking two days later.
Honestly, between Virginia and Duke, or Arizona and Wisconsin, I'll take the 1s!
That said, the Kentucky game would be brutal. Still think if anyone outside the top few teams can somehow mircaculously beat Kentucky, its a senior laden team who is athletic and can shoot. That just means I give us a 5% chance. But as Lloyd Christmas says...
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Imagine if this team had the one missing piece that was once committed to SJU and then took his talents to Baylor. We'd be talking Final Four or bust!
Proud of these kids though...can't wait for Thursday to Sunday!
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or the big kid who is hurt at "Cuse
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Currently in Palm's bracketology on CBSSPORTS, we are a 6 seed playing Purdue, with Maryland as the 3 seed. I personally feel like Maryland is the easiest 3 or 4 seed to play by far. I think right now we are a 7 or 8, but maybe we can improve on that and get a 6 seed. Hope we get Maryland no matter where we are, feel we match up great against them.
careful what you wish for. Maryland is playing great now, and they shoot a high FT% with a lot of FTM, which is a good tourney quality. Maryland will be a 2 seed after this week, beating out Kansas and IS for the last 2.
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I remember when Iona played Wofford earlier in the year, someone asked "what is a Wofford?" Baldi responded with , " an NCAA team". They just won their 28th
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Y are u not in Albany?
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I remember when Iona played Wofford earlier in the year, someone asked "what is a Wofford?" Baldi responded with , " an NCAA team". They just won their 28th
Your response was based on them being an NCAA team last season. You didn't have a clue about them being one this season.
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Y are u not in Albany?
Not this year
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I remember when Iona played Wofford earlier in the year, someone asked "what is a Wofford?" Baldi responded with , " an NCAA team". They just won their 28th
Your response was based on them being an NCAA team last season. You didn't have a clue about them being one this season.
NCAA "Tourney" team, or NCAA team?
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I remember when Iona played Wofford earlier in the year, someone asked "what is a Wofford?" Baldi responded with , " an NCAA team". They just won their 28th
I don't think I was the one who said that specifically, but I think I did make fun of Iona for losing to them. Oops. They were on the bubble before earning their auto bid. Far down the bubble, but they were there.
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I remember when Iona played Wofford earlier in the year, someone asked "what is a Wofford?" Baldi responded with , " an NCAA team". They just won their 28th
I don't think I was the one who said that specifically, but I think I did make fun of Iona for losing to them. Oops. They were on the bubble before earning their auto bid. Far down the bubble, but they were there.
it's a shame Iona gets scuttled. They deserve it more than an 8th place Longhorns or some other conference dregs...
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I remember when Iona played Wofford earlier in the year, someone asked "what is a Wofford?" Baldi responded with , " an NCAA team". They just won their 28th
I don't think I was the one who said that specifically, but I think I did make fun of Iona for losing to them. Oops. They were on the bubble before earning their auto bid. Far down the bubble, but they were there.
it's a shame Iona gets scuttled. They deserve it more than an 8th place Longhorns or some other conference dregs...
I disagree. They didnt beat a single good team all year. They lost to 5 really bad teams. If Wofford had lost, I could understand the argument for them. But Iona will be lucky to have a home game in the NIT. They really were not close to the bubble, resume is terrible.
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I remember when Iona played Wofford earlier in the year, someone asked "what is a Wofford?" Baldi responded with , " an NCAA team". They just won their 28th
I don't think I was the one who said that specifically, but I think I did make fun of Iona for losing to them. Oops. They were on the bubble before earning their auto bid. Far down the bubble, but they were there.
it's a shame Iona gets scuttled. They deserve it more than an 8th place Longhorns or some other conference dregs...
I disagree. They didnt beat a single good team all year. They lost to 5 really bad teams. If Wofford had lost, I could understand the argument for them. But Iona will be lucky to have a home game in the NIT. They really were not close to the bubble, resume is terrible.
Ttue. Even Manhattan played a much tougher schedule. They do reward success in tough OOC games.
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Mas>Cluess
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Mas>Cluess
Most games are very close and their head to head record is 3-3 in the last six games. Just Mas has won the most important one the last 2 years.
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i just don't see how you get rewarded finishing 6th or 7th in your conference
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Mas>Cluess
Best coach in the league. We've been saying that all year
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they played defense, thats always gonna be cleuss' achilles heel
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Mas>Cluess
Most games are very close and their head to head record is 3-3 in the last six games. Just Mas has won the most important one the last 2 years.
Clearly better tonight. Extending zone effectively negating threes won the game. Iona has better talent, but Masiello had an excellent game plan. Not knocking Cluess, just giving credit where due.
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Mas>Cluess
Most games are very close and their head to head record is 3-3 in the last six games. Just Mas has won the most important one the last 2 years.
Clearly better tonight. Extending zone effectively negating threes won the game. Iona has better talent, but Masiello had an excellent game plan. Not knocking Cluess, just giving credit where due.
Gotcha. Mas did have a great game plan tonight.
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i just don't see how you get rewarded finishing 6th or 7th in your conference
Easiest way to look at it is to remove conference affiliation from the equation. Forget about what conference they're in, what the conference record is; none of it matters. Look at the overall schedule. Which schedule + results has shown a better chance of winning games they are supposed to win, while also beating other tournament level teams?
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i just don't see how you get rewarded finishing 6th or 7th in your conference
Easiest way to look at it is to remove conference affiliation from the equation. Forget about what conference they're in, what the conference record is; none of it matters. Look at the overall schedule. Which schedule + results has shown a better chance of winning games they are supposed to win, while also beating other tournament level teams?
Someone said take the best teams earlier. How does a team like Murray st not get in?
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i just don't see how you get rewarded finishing 6th or 7th in your conference
Easiest way to look at it is to remove conference affiliation from the equation. Forget about what conference they're in, what the conference record is; none of it matters. Look at the overall schedule. Which schedule + results has shown a better chance of winning games they are supposed to win, while also beating other tournament level teams?
Someone said take the best teams earlier. How does a team like Murray st not get in?
And Temple? 2 good wins. Rest is garbage
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Kyle Collinsorth on BYU is a problem. Dudes like this carry their team in the big boy dance
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Kyle Collinsorth on BYU is a problem. Dudes like this carry their team in the big boy dance
Collinsworth=Harold Arcineaux
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Kyle Collinsorth on BYU is a problem. Dudes like this carry their team in the big boy dance
Collinsworth=Harold Arcineaux
How do you even make that comparison? Arceneaux averages 23 ppg and went 6 games with 30+ points IN A ROW. Collinsworth is awesome and a triple double machine, but carries in a different way - not via ridiculous video game point totals.
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Would love to see 1 seed Virginia draw 16 Manhattan
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Would love to see 1 seed Virginia draw 16 Manhattan
65-25 Virginia
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MAAC schools usually get better seeds then 16? Usually 13/14? I thought
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MAAC schools usually get better seeds then 16? Usually 13/14? I thought
MAAC went from a 12 seed to a 16 with the result of last nights game
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MAAC schools usually get better seeds then 16? Usually 13/14? I thought
MAAC went from a 12 seed to a 16 with the result of last nights game
Maybe a bunch of other bubble teams shit the bed this week and Iona gets in.
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Maybe the last 4 in should be saved for mid-major teams that blow it in their conference tournament.
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Maybe the last 4 in should be saved for mid-major teams that blow it in their conference tournament.
That's what the play in games should be. Not Miami vs Texas etc
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Maybe the last 4 in should be saved for mid-major teams that blow it in their conference tournament.
That's what the play in games should be. Not Miami vs Texas etc
I'll give you that. If a team wins the regular season but losses in their tournament then fine. Otherwise Miami vs. Texas etc.
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Maybe the last 4 in should be saved for mid-major teams that blow it in their conference tournament.
That's what the play in games should be. Not Miami vs Texas etc
I agree there, Baldi.
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Maybe the last 4 in should be saved for mid-major teams that blow it in their conference tournament.
That's what the play in games should be. Not Miami vs Texas etc
I agree there, Baldi.
THAT is an interesting idea. I'm not sure if every year you'd have 4 conf. champs who blew it and deserve a shot, so I'd make it 2 conf. champs who blew it, and the 2 last at large teams. And I'd have an at large face a conf. champ in each.
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Maybe the last 4 in should be saved for mid-major teams that blow it in their conference tournament.
That's what the play in games should be. Not Miami vs Texas etc
I agree there, Baldi.
THAT is an interesting idea. I'm not sure if every year you'd have 4 conf. champs who blew it and deserve a shot, so I'd make it 2 conf. champs who blew it, and the 2 last at large teams. And I'd have an at large face a conf. champ in each.
100%
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Why is Miami or Xavier killing Iona better then Miami playing a competive game vs Xavier ?
Not hard to make the tournament. Good teams rarely get left out. If iona is better then Miami they should go. If Miami is better they should go.
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I want no part of BYU. A Baldi sleeper
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Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
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Why no doubt Virginia ? Would rather be there then Kentucky . Want to get off 8 line.
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Why no doubt Virginia ? Would rather be there then Kentucky . Want to get off 8 line.
Palm has us as a 6 seed. Win tomorrow, and we'll be off that 8 line, IMO.
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Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
Why are you so certain we'll be in Virginia?
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Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
Why are you so certain we'll be in Virginia?
I believe he's saying, we'll be in Charlotte as the 8th seed, and a win would likely draw Virginia. But there isn't any certainty that'll happen, as you and Tony alluded.
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Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
Why are you so certain we'll be in Virginia?
I think they keep us in Charlotte. We already played Duke and Villanova, I think the committee wants to avoid 2nd round rematches
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Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
Why are you so certain we'll be in Virginia?
I think they keep us in Charlotte. We already played Duke and Villanova, I think the committee wants to avoid 2nd round rematches
That is only, if we're an 8 or 9 seed. But there isn't any certainty that we're gonna be an 8 or 9 seed.
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Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
Why are you so certain we'll be in Virginia?
I think they keep us in Charlotte. We already played Duke and Villanova, I think the committee wants to avoid 2nd round rematches
That is only, if we're an 8 or 9 seed. But there isn't any certainty that we're gonna be an 8 or 9 seed.
Lose tomorrow and we might be a 10
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Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
Why are you so certain we'll be in Virginia?
I think they keep us in Charlotte. We already played Duke and Villanova, I think the committee wants to avoid 2nd round rematches
That is only, if we're an 8 or 9 seed. But there isn't any certainty that we're gonna be an 8 or 9 seed.
Lose tomorrow and we might be a 10
Doubt it.
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Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
Why are you so certain we'll be in Virginia?
I think they keep us in Charlotte. We already played Duke and Villanova, I think the committee wants to avoid 2nd round rematches
That is only, if we're an 8 or 9 seed. But there isn't any certainty that we're gonna be an 8 or 9 seed.
Yeah, I think we'll end up being a five or a six and a rematch with D
Lunarid has us 8 seed vs Dayton in Charlotte in the Virginia bracket. Like I said a week ago, no doubt they put us in Virginia bracket
Why are you so certain we'll be in Virginia?
I think they keep us in Charlotte. We already played Duke and Villanova, I think the committee wants to avoid 2nd round rematches
I haven't heard that before about the committee wanting to avoid rematches with non-conference teams--only conference teams.
In any event, that is only if we are an eight or nine. A win tomorrow puts us as a seven or better.
It seems to me that we we always get shipped out west.
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http://www.ncaa.com/content/di-principles-and-procedures-selection
*Each of the first four teams selected from a conference shall be placed in different regions if they are seeded on the first four lines.
*Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional final if they played each other three or more times during the regular season and conference tournament.
*Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional semifinals if they played each other twice during the regular season and conference tournament.
*Teams from the same conference may play each other as early as the third round if they played no more than once during the regular season and conference tournament.
*Any principle can be relaxed if two or more teams from the same conference are among the last four at-large teams selected to the field to participate in the First Four.
*To recognize the demonstrated quality of such teams, the committee shall not place teams seeded on the first four lines at a potential “home-crowd disadvantage” in the second
round.
*Teams will remain in or as close to their areas of natural interest as possible.
*A team will not be permitted to play in any facility in which it has played more than three games during its season, not including exhibitions and conference post-season tournaments.
*A team may be moved up or down one (or in extraordinary circumstances) two lines from its true seed line (e.g., from the 13 seed line to the 12 seed line; or from a 12 seed line to a 13 seed line) when it is placed in the bracket if necessary to meet the principles.
*If possible, rematches of non-conference regular-season games should be avoided in the First Four and second round.
*If possible, after examining the previous two years’ brackets, teams or conferences will not be moved out of its natural region or geographic area an inordinate number of times.
*If possible, rematches from the previous two tournaments should be avoided in the second round.
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Thanks Logan. This confirms that we could play DUKE or Gonzaga in the Round of 32. We could not play Nova until the regional semis (or if we play on Friday, the regional finals).
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If Big east gets six teams in...they'll probably have to be some exceptions.
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http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
7 seed vs Colorado St in today's update.
I think a win today and we will avoid the dreaded 8/9 game.
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I would rather play Duke then Wisconsin .
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Anyone know what radio station the game is on and where on the dial it's located ?
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A national telecast will air on FOX Sports 1, with announcers Justin Kutcher, Donny Marshall and Molly McGrath reporting from the sideline. St. John's radio broadcast with John Minko and Brandon Tierney can be heard on 970 AM (WNYM).
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/031115aac.html
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Duke is a better team than when we played earlier. Both they and Wisco would pound us I'm afraid. UW size would eat us alive.
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Agree, but we're a better team than we were the first time around with Duke.
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Duke is a better team than when we played earlier. Both they and Wisco would pound us I'm afraid. UW size would eat us alive.
I think that's why winning this one and getting a 6 seed is huge. You avoid those 1 and 2 seeds until game 3. The 3s aren't nearly as scary.
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Not afraid of any 3's. Gotta win today .
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A national telecast will air on FOX Sports 1, with announcers Justin Kutcher, Donny Marshall and Molly McGrath reporting from the sideline. St. John's radio broadcast with John Minko and Brandon Tierney can be heard on 970 AM (WNYM).
Thanks. I thought 970 but I didn't know what WNYM was.
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/031115aac.html
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Duke is a better team than when we played earlier. Both they and Wisco would pound us I'm afraid. UW size would eat us alive.
This! I think Tyus Jones is the best player in the nation
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Not afraid of any 3's. Gotta win today .
Especially, a team like Notre Dame. A totally, different team away from South Bend.
Let's get the win today, and rehash this thread, afterwards. :up:
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Now we definetly have a chance to play a three seed in the second round, maybe we'll get an 11.
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11 isn't gonna happen. I'd say they're looking at a 8-10 seed.
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Ass kicked.
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I don't think this loss will hurt as too much in the seeding. We tend to overreact as fans while the committee takes into account the whole season. All that being said I am mad about this game and a lot of this season. To be so inconsistent from game to game is the sign on a young, undisciplined team with no leadership. We have a team full of seniors, they are to blame and even more so Steve and the staff. I am no longer convinced that just making to the tournament gets him an extension. Still think we will be a 9 seed at worst.
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McDermott gets the best out of his guys and runs some really nice offensive sets. I would be curious to see him with 5 talented players
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Ass kicked.
Drunk, bored, or both?
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Ass kicked.
Drunk, bored, or both?
Keeping it real,yo
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Trying to be an optimist, getting bounced early will give Branch and CO some rest.
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CBS has us as a 7 seed today. Let's all take a deep breath. No sweating on selection Sunday necessary.
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Bracketmatrix.com has us as the top 8 seed as of this morning.
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They're definitely in but this team needs to relax and just go out and ball hard in the NCAA's. For such a veteran team they have looked like deer in the headlights the last few games.
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With Oregon beat Utah and Xavier beating G'Town we can forget about a 7 seed. I expect to see us in an 8/9 game, but will be rooting for a 10.
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With Oregon beat Utah and Xavier beating G'Town we can forget about a 7 seed. I expect to see us in an 8/9 game, but will be rooting for a 10.
Other than Kentucky, I'm not sure there's a material difference between the likely 1 and 2 seeds this year. 7/8/9/10 are more interchangeable than normal with drawing UK being the lone short stick.
I'm rooting for a good first round matchup and anyone but UK in round 2.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
9 seed vs Cinci...in Kentucky's bracket.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
9 seed vs Cinci...in Kentucky's bracket.
Ugh, I wouldnt mind playing Cincy but we don't have a shot against UK.
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Palm's bracketology.... Still has us as a 7 seed vs. LSU. They are a "long" team.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
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Palm's bracketology.... Still has us as a 7 seed vs. LSU. They are a "long" team.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
LSU doesnt worry me at all. That loss to Auburn yesterday was possibly the worst coached game I saw in a long time by LSU's coach.
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
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What a great finish in the American east championship. Some terrible basketball played in these low major conferences, but I'll never get tired of watching a three down by two and 2 seconds on the clock.
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Can't believe Stony blew it AGAIN. Unreal.
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
10-19 from the free throw line
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
10-19 from the free throw line
That's a problem all over basketball today, basically par for the course.
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
10-19 from the free throw line
That's a problem all over basketball today, basically par for the course.
National FT % has remained consistent for 60 years.
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
10-19 from the free throw line
That's a problem all over basketball today, basically par for the course.
The reason both St. Francis and Stony Brook are not dancing
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
10-19 from the free throw line
That's a problem all over basketball today, basically par for the course.
National FT % has remained consistent for 60 years.
[/quoteWell than they used to suck too! :)
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins. I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins. I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
I agree. Plus, they're still getting used to having Anderson back.
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins. I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
So I guess tourny play does matter ?
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins. I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
I think the committee takes the fact that the Wiscy loss to Rutgers was without Kaminsky
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If Lavin coached SB, it would be all his fault. Instead , it's a plague of all of college hoops. Consistency , a JJ staple
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png). I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
So I guess tourny play does matter ?
I think less than in the past from what I've read.
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I thought the Terps could work their way into a 2 seed with a win(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) today over State, and even losing to Wisconsin tomorrow. But ND may secure it if they beat UNC tonight. I think they've got a better resume than Kansas.
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I thought the Terps could work their way into a 2 seed with a win today over State, and even losing to Wisconsin tomorrow. But ND may secure it if they beat UNC tomorrow. I think they've got a better resume than Kansas.
By the way, Notre Dame/UNC play tonight at 8. You're probably used to the ACC Championship game being played on Sunday afternoon. LOL
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So many phantom calls in MSU's favor at the end of the game. They've anticipated contact when it wasn't there
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If Lavin coached SB, it would be all his fault. Instead , it's a plague of all of college hoops. Consistency , a JJ staple
[/quoteIf Lavin coached SB, it would be all his fault. Instead , it's a plague of all of college hoops. Consistency , a JJ staple
[/quoteIf Lavin coached SB, it would be all his fault. Instead , it's a plague of all of college hoops. Consistency , a JJ staple
Well poor foul shooting may have cost them a one point loss on the road against the top seed but i still don't think it was a choke job. Want to know what is a choke job-a senior laden team getting blown out on their home floor to a team they had beaten twice because they came out tight. Tight in sports parlance means tight around the collar the very definition of choking. Back to sucking up to coach, huh Boo!
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
Did Iona lose to the Cuse like that? Harder to take for a huge dog.
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
Did Iona lose to the Cuse like that? Harder to take for a huge dog.
Marius Janulis. I'll never forget that SOB
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Huge choke job Stony Brook
Not really a choke when up 2 seconds remaining you play good D force up a shot that hits the top of the backboard gets tipped out to a made contested 3. Also playing a higher seed on their home court.
Did Iona lose to the Cuse like that? Harder to take for a huge dog.
They sure did. Marius Janulis, one of those classic Boeheim role players hit a 3 to win that game. This after Ryan Blackwell broke our hearts in 2OT.
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Should we get 8 or 9 seed, Hope we don't draw VCU or Michigan St
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If Lavin coached SB, it would be all his fault. Instead , it's a plague of all of college hoops. Consistency , a JJ staple
I would like to take my shot at what is coach Lavin's fault. His lack of bringing in BE quality players who can get on the court the last 2 years. When we were short players in year 2 he said that would never happen again. A coaches first responsibility is bringing enough players that belong in the conference in which you compete. Six players doesn't cut it, nor does counting on kids going 40. I thought it would take time, and never said a negative thing regarding coach until this year. If a kid is moving in slow mo or hurting he stays on the court. Both cases ain't right.
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Archie Miller has done great with a similar 7 man rotation
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Should we get 8 or 9 seed, Hope we don't draw VCU or Michigan St
Michigan State probably got themselves a higher seed going to the B1G finals. VCU is a very possible opponent.
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Should we get 8 or 9 seed, Hope we don't draw VCU or Michigan St
VCU would be a great draw for us IMO. It would be a fast paced game where we excel. Michigan State would mop us though
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Archie Miller has done great with a similar 7 man rotation
I don't care what another coach has done coaching. I think Lav getting this team in tourny is just fine, although I think the players bailed him out. Did any coach in the BE bring in but one BE quality player that hit the court the last 2 years. There is Jordan. I don't count Sanchez. The guys he did bring in were a cover up. He didn't get a real player so he brought in Hooper and Bourgualt. Thomas counts for nothing. Will AD ever play and be a BE player? We did bring in a sleeper walk on. Who's gonna fall for that.So, Baldi, please don't tell me about a coach who did a nice job coaching a seven man rotation. I'm talking about 2 years of recruiting neglect. If he gets coach of the year, same thing holds. Now lets see this team go out playing good hard hoops.
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Buffalo playing at 7:30 on espn2 if anyone wants to see Bobby coach before the big east final
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JR49 is dead on about this. I've been a Lavin supporter, but the failure to get anything from the 2013/2014 class, besides Sheed, that contribute now has really hurt us this year. Hell even a guy of Gift's caliber would have helped this year. Staff should have known that Sampson was gone, in addition to Sanchez and Gift, and recruited accordingly, knowing what we know now about others backing off Thomas and ADR who pretty much everyone said would never contribute as a freshman.
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Archie Miller has done great with a similar 7 man rotation
Very true. With no player taller than 6-6...In the A-10...that is coaching...beat RI today....we probably cannot even get him because a more impatient, more powerful school will pay the king's ransom buyout, and pay him serious coin...to oust a guy whose team was a 1 seed just two short years ago. Adults are resembling impatient 18 year olds.
We probably should try, but I think we won't, knowing Indiana is going to pull out the rail gun vs. our 9 mm...And they're considering buying Crean out before July 1st, which would mean between 10.6 to 12 MIL (without cause interpretation causes range) !!! 7.5 MIL after July 1st. That is B1G Money....But Miller does not have a huge buyout according to some board comments I read.
Another school living in the past - " judging by the general apathy from students and a fanbase still longing for the salad days of the Bob Knight era, ..."
http://bustingbrackets.com/2015/03/04/daytons-archie-miller-answer-indiana-hoosiers/ (http://bustingbrackets.com/2015/03/04/daytons-archie-miller-answer-indiana-hoosiers/)
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Should we get 8 or 9 seed, Hope we don't draw VCU or Michigan St
VCU would be a great draw for us IMO. It would be a fast paced game where we excel. Michigan State would mop us though
I've been underwhelmed by them all year, despite the win over Maryland today.
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins. I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
UVA has lost 2 of its last 3 and lost its only match up to Duke, right? Duke hasn't lost to anyone besides notre dame in 2 months. How you end has to matter a little in seeding...
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins. I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
I think the committee takes the fact that the Wiscy loss to Rutgers was without Kaminsky
I'm fine with Wisc moving up, I was more thinking that Duke should be the team dropped a seed line, rather than Virginia.
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins. I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
UVA has lost 2 of its last 3 and lost its only match up to Duke, right? Duke hasn't lost to anyone besides notre dame in 2 months. How you end has to matter a little in seeding...
I think head to head is supposed to be irrelevant. I just don't think losing to Duke, Louisville, and UNC is as bad as losing to ND, ND, NC State, and Miami. Another debate to be answered tomorrow night I guess.
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UConn is gonna steal someone's bid.
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png). I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
UVA has lost 2 of its last 3 and lost its only match up to Duke, right? Duke hasn't lost to anyone besides notre dame in 2 months. How you end has to matter a little in seeding...
I think head to head is supposed to be irrelevant. I just don't think losing to Duke, Louisville, and UNC is as bad as losing to ND, ND, NC State, and Miami. Another debate to be answered tomorrow night I guess.
UVa should be a 1 seed over Duke, no doubts in my mind
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Laundry (I love auto-correct: Lunardi) moved Wisc to a 1. Fine. But he drops...Virginia??? I had Virginia as the 2nd overall team. I can see them dropping to 3rd, but I still think they have the 2nd best profile. Three losses, but all to top 20 teams. Nova lost to SHU, Wisky lost to Rutgers, Duke lost to Miami and NC State. All three have great quality wins. I just don't see Virginia getting a 2.
UVA has lost 2 of its last 3 and lost its only match up to Duke, right? Duke hasn't lost to anyone besides notre dame in 2 months. How you end has to matter a little in seeding...
I think head to head is supposed to be irrelevant. I just don't think losing to Duke, Louisville, and UNC is as bad as losing to ND, ND, NC State, and Miami. Another debate to be answered tomorrow night I guess.
I think it's a toss up really. Duke has better RPI. Duke has two top 10 wins (at Wisconsin and v virginia) where UVA has just at Maryland. We'll see.
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Playing and beating UCONN would save the season. Would love to play them in 7/10 game.
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Playing and beating UCONN would save the season. Would love to play them in 7/10 game.
They'd be an 11 or 12 I would think.
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Think we end up an 8. Very excited to see who we get to play tomorrow. Please don't put us in with Kentucky, that's all I ask.
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ND winning the ACC tournament shows that the BE is that much better!
I have a UNC buddy who is disgruntled over the loss and we produce a new word and that is F**ckery. The definition is a f**ckery produces teams like Dook and wanna be irish like ND...The only real Irish are the fighten 69th Irish Brigade from NY!
In honor of St. Patrick's day...
Not sure if this was funnier between me and my buddy or it is funny in general. So feel free to rip of it's the latter.
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Think we end up an 8. Very excited to see who we get to play tomorrow. Please don't put us in with Kentucky, that's all I ask.
That's pretty ballsy to be worrying about a possible second round match up. You do know we're fans of the St. John's Red Storm, right?
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Logan how can lunardi have ND and Iowa State 3s but Kansas a 2? Gotta think one of them takes Kansas spot on 2 line right?
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We are now a 9 and Providnince a 6? Cant believe they are that far ahead of us.
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Logan how can lunardi have ND and Iowa State 3s but Kansas a 2? Gotta think one of them takes Kansas spot on 2 line right?
Last night I had Kansas as my last 2 and Iowa State and ND as my first 3s. This morning I developed a new "points" system, awarding 1.25 for a top 25 win, 1 for a top 50, .5 for top 100, .25 for top150, .1 for sub150. A top 25 loss is -.1, top 50 -.25, top 100 -.5, top 150 -1, sub 150 -1.25, sub 250 -1.5. With this system, Kansas would be a 1 (I switched them with Duke tho), Iowa State a 2, and Notre Dame a 3. This system also dropped Gonzaga to a 3. My current 2s are Virginia, Kansas, Arizona, and Iowa State. So, basically, Gonzaga is the one who I have getting screwed by Iowa State (actually works out for them geographically though, so it's not all bad).
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Logan how can lunardi have ND and Iowa State 3s but Kansas a 2? Gotta think one of them takes Kansas spot on 2 line right?
Last night I had Kansas as my last 2 and Iowa State and ND as my first 3s. This morning I developed a new "points" system, awarding 1.25 for a top 25 win, 1 for a top 50, .5 for top 100, .25 for top150, .1 for sub150. A top 25 loss is -.1, top 50 -.25, top 100 -.5, top 150 -1, sub 150 -1.25, sub 250 -1.5. With this system, Kansas would be a 1 (I switched them with Duke tho), Iowa State a 2, and Notre Dame a 3. This system also dropped Gonzaga to a 3. My current 2s are Virginia, Kansas, Arizona, and Iowa State. So, basically, Gonzaga is the one who I have getting screwed by Iowa State (actually works out for them geographically though, so it's not all bad).
Interesting. Wonder if you added extra bonus for 1) winning reg season title, 2) winning conf tourney, 3) top 10 wins, 4) extra poitns for top 50 road wins, how that would change things. LOL but dont worry not expecting you to do that now!!
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
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Logan how can lunardi have ND and Iowa State 3s but Kansas a 2? Gotta think one of them takes Kansas spot on 2 line right?
Last night I had Kansas as my last 2 and Iowa State and ND as my first 3s. This morning I developed a new "points" system, awarding 1.25 for a top 25 win, 1 for a top 50, .5 for top 100, .25 for top150, .1 for sub150. A top 25 loss is -.1, top 50 -.25, top 100 -.5, top 150 -1, sub 150 -1.25, sub 250 -1.5. With this system, Kansas would be a 1 (I switched them with Duke tho), Iowa State a 2, and Notre Dame a 3. This system also dropped Gonzaga to a 3. My current 2s are Virginia, Kansas, Arizona, and Iowa State. So, basically, Gonzaga is the one who I have getting screwed by Iowa State (actually works out for them geographically though, so it's not all bad).
Interesting. Wonder if you added extra bonus for 1) winning reg season title, 2) winning conf tourney, 3) top 10 wins, 4) extra poitns for top 50 road wins, how that would change things. LOL but dont worry not expecting you to do that now!!
No more numbers!!! I'm already way over-thinking this, lol. I'm basically gonna combine last night's S-Curve with this new system and see what happens, and that will probably be my final bracket. Today's games should only move teams a seed line one way or another (mostly up, none of them will be harmful losses).
Notes on new system: Has UConn in even with a loss, Texas shot up to a 7 (though I switched them with 8 seed SJU for geography reasons), no BYU or Boise. Stephen F Austin is ahead of a few bubble teams though. Northern Iowa down to a 5 and Wichita St down to a 6. And yea, Gonzaga gets screwed.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
As you have pointed out for other at large contenders (Georgia, etc.), there is a lot more to the seeding conversation than RPI. SOS and top 50 wins put SJU in a relatively favorable position. You clearly understand this but continue to repeatedly state an opinion that seemingly defies even your own criteria.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
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I think rpi is used more as a tool to rank a team's wins and losses than to evaluate a team itself, because when evaluating a team you can actually look at those wins/losses. Only 11 teams in the top 50 in rpi have more top 25 wins than st. Johns. I think having good wins goes a long way in the committe's eyes
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
As you have pointed out for other at large contenders (Georgia, etc.), there is a lot more to the seeding conversation than RPI. SOS and top 50 wins put SJU in a relatively favorable position. You clearly understand this but continue to repeatedly state an opinion that seemingly defies even your own criteria.
Most here knows he's trying to troll or simply ignorant to how the system works. To even think we could be a play-in participant tells us he's one of the two (we all know it's the former).
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
Act tough? LOL. Poor feelings, troll.
Nah, dude. More like a thorough observation.
Tell you what, "poor feelings." If St. John's is in the play-in game, then I'd get lost. If they aren't, then you get lost.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
Act tough? LOL. Poor feelings, troll.
Nah, dude. More like a thorough observation.
Tell you what, "poor feelings." If St. John's is in the play-in game, then I'd get lost. If they aren't, then you get lost.
And potentially miss out on commenting on the new coaching hire, sharing my own "thorough observations "?
Besides, you will probably get yourself kicked out(again). So it wouldn't be fair to you. Let's try to stay on topic
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
Act tough? LOL. Poor feelings, troll.
Nah, dude. More like a thorough observation.
Tell you what, "poor feelings." If St. John's is in the play-in game, then I'd get lost. If they aren't, then you get lost.
And potentially miss out on commenting on the new coaching hire, sharing my own "thorough observations "?
Besides, you will probably get yourself kicked out(again). So it wouldn't be fair to you. Let's try to stay on topic
Kicked out again? LOL
Wrong, per usual. I personally stopped posting here for nearly 3 years. So, get your facts straight.
I knew you wouldn't take the bet because you don't believe that foolishness.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
Act tough? LOL. Poor feelings, troll.
Nah, dude. More like a thorough observation.
Tell you what, "poor feelings." If St. John's is in the play-in game, then I'd get lost. If they aren't, then you get lost.
And potentially miss out on commenting on the new coaching hire, sharing my own "thorough observations "?
Besides, you will probably get yourself kicked out(again). So it wouldn't be fair to you. Let's try to stay on topic
Kicked out again? LOL
Wrong, per usual. I personally stopped posting here for nearly 3 years. So, get your facts straight.
I knew you wouldn't take the bet because you don't believe that foolishness.
Baldi's right. You act like a f*cking child with your name calling. Stay on topic. You think we're a 7 seed? I don't. We'll find out soon enough.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
Act tough? LOL. Poor feelings, troll.
Nah, dude. More like a thorough observation.
Tell you what, "poor feelings." If St. John's is in the play-in game, then I'd get lost. If they aren't, then you get lost.
And potentially miss out on commenting on the new coaching hire, sharing my own "thorough observations "?
Besides, you will probably get yourself kicked out(again). So it wouldn't be fair to you. Let's try to stay on topic
Kicked out again? LOL
Wrong, per usual. I personally stopped posting here for nearly 3 years. So, get your facts straight.
I knew you wouldn't take the bet because you don't believe that foolishness.
Baldi's right. You act like a f*cking child with your name calling. Stay on topic. You think we're a 7 seed? I don't. We'll find out soon enough.
Go take your pills, fool! You just made a hypocrite of yourself. Typical.
Obviously, you can't comprehend. What have I said since we lost on Thursday? Reading is fundamental.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
Act tough? LOL. Poor feelings, troll.
Nah, dude. More like a thorough observation.
Tell you what, "poor feelings." If St. John's is in the play-in game, then I'd get lost. If they aren't, then you get lost.
And potentially miss out on commenting on the new coaching hire, sharing my own "thorough observations "?
Besides, you will probably get yourself kicked out(again). So it wouldn't be fair to you. Let's try to stay on topic
Kicked out again? LOL
Wrong, per usual. I personally stopped posting here for nearly 3 years. So, get your facts straight.
I knew you wouldn't take the bet because you don't believe that foolishness.
Baldi's right. You act like a f*cking child with your name calling. Stay on topic. You think we're a 7 seed? I don't. We'll find out soon enough.
Agree that we aren't a 7. Pretty sure dink said 7-10, which is much more likely than a play in (virtually impossible)
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
Act tough? LOL. Poor feelings, troll.
Nah, dude. More like a thorough observation.
Tell you what, "poor feelings." If St. John's is in the play-in game, then I'd get lost. If they aren't, then you get lost.
And potentially miss out on commenting on the new coaching hire, sharing my own "thorough observations "?
Besides, you will probably get yourself kicked out(again). So it wouldn't be fair to you. Let's try to stay on topic
Kicked out again? LOL
Wrong, per usual. I personally stopped posting here for nearly 3 years. So, get your facts straight.
I knew you wouldn't take the bet because you don't believe that foolishness.
Baldi's right. You act like a f*cking child with your name calling. Stay on topic. You think we're a 7 seed? I don't. We'll find out soon enough.
Agree that we aren't a 7. Pretty sure dink said 7-10, which is much more likely than a play in (virtually impossible)
Thanks, Chudster.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
RPI is at 44 according to this site which is the NCAA. Imo that will put us at 11 or 12 seed. would not be surprised to get play in
But when you are given a list of the 15-20 bubble teams fighting for 10-11 spots, you pick st johns in the first few that you think deserve it.
We will be 7-10, my guess is a 9.
Who cares what we think? Is this RPI not relevant all of a sudden? In my opinion I think ST John's will be one of the last 6 or 8 teams in.
Yeah.... Who cares what we think, but there is nothing definitive that matches your nitwit thought.
It's so cute when you try to act tough. Try commenting on the situation instead of commenting on posters.
Act tough? LOL. Poor feelings, troll.
Nah, dude. More like a thorough observation.
Tell you what, "poor feelings." If St. John's is in the play-in game, then I'd get lost. If they aren't, then you get lost.
And potentially miss out on commenting on the new coaching hire, sharing my own "thorough observations "?
Besides, you will probably get yourself kicked out(again). So it wouldn't be fair to you. Let's try to stay on topic
Kicked out again? LOL
Wrong, per usual. I personally stopped posting here for nearly 3 years. So, get your facts straight.
I knew you wouldn't take the bet because you don't believe that foolishness.
Baldi's right. You act like a f*cking child with your name calling. Stay on topic. You think we're a 7 seed? I don't. We'll find out soon enough.
Go take your pills, fool! You just made a hypocrite of yourself. Typical.
Obviously, you can't comprehend. What have I said since we lost on Thursday? Reading is fundamental.
What have you said? Let's see, "you're stupid", you "don't understand", "the entire board agrees with me" "obviously, you can't comprehend" etc. Like I said, you act like a child. Try taking more time to formulate your thoughts before posting, or ask a parent for help. We're all happy to wait for you.
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Try taking more time to formulate your thoughts before posting
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1499879/thumbs/o-POT-MEET-KETTLE-570.jpg?1)
Okay.... You act dense and like you need to be on meds. Ask a doc for help.
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Looking at Lunardi's bracket we are a 9. So give or take all seeds in his bracket are one 1 spot off theres a few teams we have a good chance of seeing in the 1st round:
VCU: Wouldn't mind playing them. They play fast and we are better in an up tempo-game
SDSU: My dream matchup probably. They are exact opposite of VCU in terms of playing style but this team is very very overrated. They can't score at all
Cincinnati: Another team I would like to see us matched up with. Did not make waves in an average AAC
NC St: Very good backcourt. Have a lot of talent and probably underachieved a little bit. Wouldn't want to see them
Dayton: Well coached but not deep at all. We have more talent but they know how to win. Wouldn't mind seeing them but wouldn't be completely comfortable
Ohio State: I want no part of this team. Another team that underachieved with their talent. Russell would torch us
Oklahoma State: Team that struggles to score but I wouldn't want to see any B12 team in the first round. Nash is very good
Oregon: Can fill it up. Young is good but I feel thats a good matchup for us
Iowa: Would prefer to avoid them but not the worst matchup for us
With all those teams listed, I'm sure we will draw somebody else. Can't wait for 6PM
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Try taking more time to formulate your thoughts before posting
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1499879/thumbs/o-POT-MEET-KETTLE-570.jpg?1)
Okay.... You act dense and like you need to be on meds. Ask a doc for help.
Gee, so smart.
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On CBS, guy from committee just said teams are already picked. Only UConn can change that.
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"There are 6 teams who have the resume to be 1 seeds"
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Looking at Lunardi's bracket we are a 9. So give or take all seeds in his bracket are one 1 spot off theres a few teams we have a good chance of seeing in the 1st round:
VCU: Wouldn't mind playing them. They play fast and we are better in an up tempo-game
SDSU: My dream matchup probably. They are exact opposite of VCU in terms of playing style but this team is very very overrated. They can't score at all
Cincinnati: Another team I would like to see us matched up with. Did not make waves in an average AAC
NC St: Very good backcourt. Have a lot of talent and probably underachieved a little bit. Wouldn't want to see them
Dayton: Well coached but not deep at all. We have more talent but they know how to win. Wouldn't mind seeing them but wouldn't be completely comfortable
Ohio State: I want no part of this team. Another team that underachieved with their talent. Russell would torch us
Oklahoma State: Team that struggles to score but I wouldn't want to see any B12 team in the first round. Nash is very good
Oregon: Can fill it up. Young is good but I feel thats a good matchup for us
Iowa: Would prefer to avoid them but not the worst matchup for us
With all those teams listed, I'm sure we will draw somebody else. Can't wait for 6PM
Well done. I think this is spot on.
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Like most folks that seem to have a clue , I think we will end up on that 8/9 line. Which sucks. Beating Providence likely would have gotten us a 6 or 7. This play-in stuff is best to just ignore.
Today should be a great day for Johnny Nation. Finally get to participate in selection Sunday. Nothing else should matter. The last 3 years, doesn't matter. The next 3 years .. Doesn't matter.... Not today.
Ignore the haters. Enjoy your day Johnny fans. If you can't get over your hatred for a coach today, just pack it in. You are a miserable person to begin with.
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I think St Johns are locked in the 8/9 spot, maybe play Davidson in an 8/9 matchup.
The real concern is being in that Midwest region which I have a gut feeling may happen. Can't see them placing St Johns in a chance to play 2 teams they've previously played(Duke/Villanova) so it'd narrow it down to either Kentucky OR Wisconsin/Arizona.
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Committee won't do STJ any favors. The no-show against Providence gives them ammo to put us wherever. I'd be estactic winning one game. Sad but true
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Committee won't do STJ any favors. The no-show against Providence gives them ammo to put us wherever. I'd be estactic winning one game. Sad but true
Precisely why I have them further down the seedlings, combined with RPI
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I think St Johns are locked in the 8/9 spot, maybe play Davidson in an 8/9 matchup.
The real concern is being in that Midwest region which I have a gut feeling may happen. Can't see them placing St Johns in a chance to play 2 teams they've previously played(Duke/Villanova) so it'd narrow it down to either Kentucky OR Wisconsin/Arizona.
I doubt they'd have us set up for a second round matchup with Villanova, but it's still possible they could do so with Duke (although, we've played 'em). Give me Duke rather than Kentucky, Wisconsin, or Arizona all day!
I'm certainly looking forward to later this evening.
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Committee won't do STJ any favors. The no-show against Providence gives them ammo to put us wherever. I'd be estactic winning one game. Sad but true
Agree. One is fine & prefer to at least be competitive in possible second game against one of the big boys.
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I mean location wise. They will be 8/9. Probably looking at Kentucky round 2.
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I'd rather be a 10 personally.
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Committee won't do STJ any favors. The no-show against Providence gives them ammo to put us wherever. I'd be estactic winning one game. Sad but true
Precisely why I have them further down the seedlings, combined with RPI
But you're a hater, even though that all makes sense.
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Committee won't do STJ any favors. The no-show against Providence gives them ammo to put us wherever. I'd be estactic winning one game. Sad but true
Agree. One is fine & prefer to at least be competitive in possible second game against one of the big boys.
IMO, there are a couple teams that I won't expect to be competitive with. I'd be surprised, if they were against those particular teams. But I'd root like heck, in hopes being surprised.
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I'd rather be a 10 personally.
If it means facing UK, Arizona, or Wisconsin, as an 8/9, then "yes."
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I'd be fine with facing Arizona. I know it's crazy but Id rather face Kentucky than Wisconsin. A talented veteran well coached team we almost have zero chance against. At least w Kentucky there is a minute near zero chance that the frosh are too cocky or fold under pressure or something. Wisconsin won't. And not taking anything from calipari who is an excellent coach, but in terms of x and os and game plan give me bo Ryan every day. Wisconsin is really the team i want to avoid at all costs. Probably naive of me.
For the record I will likely pick Kentucky over Wisconsin in a bracket, but I just think our chances against Kentucky are at like 3 pct vs like 1 pct v Wisco based on matchups etc.
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You can watch the team and their clown coach watch the selection show via this link http://meerkatapp.co/stjohnsnow/99c7af94-c209-483b-8ce5-58e981b47908
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...and we can't even enjoy one day. This program sucks. College basketball sucks. Enjoy the garbage
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Hold off. Now I was just told not to Dayton, unless UConn wins
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Hold off. Now I was just told not to Dayton, unless UConn wins
(http://www.viralread.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/internet-troll-300x269.jpg)
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Think they will be the #10 seed and play Iowa.
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Think they will be the #10 seed and play Iowa.
Lunardi said, they may drop, at the most, 1 seed, if that at all. So, anywhere between 8-10.
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Manhattan playing for a chance to get Kentucky
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Texas in? Thats garbage
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LSU a 9?
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Wow, Oklahoma a 3 with 10 losses
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everyone seems excited except for St John's, they're all sullen
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Royal screwing of mid majors. Texas? Oklahoma a fckn 3?
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Dayton a play in?
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Dayton a play in?
At home, but still that's ridiculous
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San Diego st
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Dwayne Polee vs Lavin. WTF?
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we'll see
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Duke, did not win regular or postseason in conference but get a 1 seed
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Georgetown a 4 seed? Got to be kidding
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Wow again, Gtown a 4. Seedings are crazy
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Baldi.
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Duke, did not win regular or postseason in conference but get a 1 seed
If we had to play a #1 seed, this would be it
if we can get past San Diego St...there's a slight chance to upset. If they drew Kentucky, Villanova or any other juggernaut...forget it
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Jesus Christ UCLA? Who the fck is on the committee?
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I think a 9 seed is more than fair for St. John's
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Baldi.
He did his job. Got everyone panicking.
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Just a font of misinformation.
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Congrats to the boys. Glad that our seniors will get this opportunity. Rebounding will be a major issue. Plus side is that San Diego St struggles offensively.
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Texas in? Thats garbage
8-10 in conference - what crap
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Baldi.
He did his job. Got everyone panicking.
Obekpa did that
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I think as good a draw as we could hope for. Of course it would be great to have freakin Obekpa
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No team ever gets 1 seed w/o winning reg. season conference or tourney. Of course, committee fs UVA and picks PuKe. Duke Bias
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I thought they'd do it for the Polee story line
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What about Arizona, won both
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VCU got screwed. 7th seed?
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No team ever gets 1 seed w/o winning reg. season conference or tourney. Of course, committee fs UVA and picks PuKe. Duke Bias
Duke beat another one seed on the road - Wisconsin. Also beat UVA in only matchup. Give me a break about bias.
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Royal screwing of mid majors. Texas? Oklahoma a fckn 3?
they totally hosed Maryland. Deserved the 3 much more than Oklahoma. I'd much rather have a mid-major conf champ with a lot of wins than Texas and a few other dregs.
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I think as good a draw as we could hope for. Of course it would be great to have freakin Obekpa
Amazing. Best we could have hoped for ... If we had obekpa.
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Duke, did not win regular or postseason in conference but get a 1 seed
If we had to play a #1 seed, this would be it
if we can get past San Diego St...there's a slight chance to upset. If they drew Kentucky, Villanova or any other juggernaut...forget it
Before obekpa was suspended, yes.
Now? Whos guarding the best player in the country who happens to be 6'11 and 270 pounds. We are f'ed.
We honestly should play branch Greene dee Jordan and Dom all game and pray Duke can't guard us.
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How is Dayton last 4 in?
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UCLA is a tournament team? Are we the only school in the country that hasn't cheated this year?
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How is Dayton last 4 in?
Total BS.
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Big East, 60% of conference in. Some much for anybody calling us a mid-major after last year
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Btw, ACC 6 also. So much for them being the best conference after taking half the Big East
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Texas 8-10 in conference. Only 20 wins
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Scott Barnes talking out of the side of his mouth during that interview.
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I struggle with Texas as well. Ranked 20 by KenPom tells me they are worthy
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"uCLA was gaining steam"
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Duke, did not win regular or postseason in conference but get a 1 seed
If we had to play a #1 seed, this would be it
if we can get past San Diego St...there's a slight chance to upset. If they drew Kentucky, Villanova or any other juggernaut...forget it
Before obekpa was suspended, yes.
Now? Whos guarding the best player in the country who happens to be 6'11 and 270 pounds. We are f'ed.
We honestly should play branch Greene dee Jordan and Dom all game and pray Duke can't guard us.
Don't look ahead--right now all that matters s SD ST--we need a win as it has been a long, long time
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Any idea what time this game will tip off on Friday?
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Has a coach ever been fired after the selection committee chose the field, but before a game was played? Would be great to see them fire Lavin, and give him a dose of his own medicine.
This way, we could provide a life lesson for Lavin as a way to thank him for everything he's done for and to St.John's basketball.
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Any idea what time this game will tip off on Friday?
Midnight
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San Diego State is offensively challenged so first to 50 will win this game. They scored only 43 points in conference finals loss to Wyoming.
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Marco - which member of the committee told you SJU was a lock for the play in game after the CO announcement?
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So it looks like all you have to do is schedule some tough teams, not win any, and land around .500 in league play
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Marco Baldi.
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Has a coach ever been fired after the selection committee chose the field, but before a game was played? Would be great to see them fire Lavin, and give him a dose of his own medicine.
This way, we could provide a life lesson for Lavin as a way to thank him for everything he's done for and to St.John's basketball.
I keep wondering if you have ever run a company or anything. Anything goes as long as we win, hope you don't have kids.
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Has a coach ever been fired after the selection committee chose the field, but before a game was played? Would be great to see them fire Lavin, and give him a dose of his own medicine.
This way, we could provide a life lesson for Lavin as a way to thank him for everything he's done for and to St.John's basketball.
Just hope St. John's can win a game in the NCAA Tournament. Hasn't happened since 2000.
Honestly, I see some posters saying he's gone and I see some posters saying he's getting extended. No idea what to think at this point. Just really tired of the constant drama around this program. We as fans shouldn't be seeing suspensions and players declared academically ineligible every single season.
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BE was really shown respect by the seeds they were given. I hope they can live up to them. I loved the old BE, but was starting to feel the team I root for was not really a part of it. A team like Marq was brought in and did themselves proud right off the bat. The three teams that were just brought into the new BE have better programs then we do. This Obekpa nightmare makes me feel once again we are not as good as the conference we play in. I hope the core kids that are playing Friday take pride in making the dance. A possible game 2 would be a nice spot for Pointer and the rest to show what they got and go out with pride.
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Just catching up. See we got SDSU. Who did Iona draw?
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This the BE time to shine and what will really make us look like a power conference is how we do in the the tournament...if some of BE teams can go on a run that would be awesome...if some how we can beat Dule it would be a big thumb in the eye of the ACC
Give the new President some time to fix SJU....I joke about the Redmen curse but in reality it was Harrington's mismanagement that is causing all these issue.
Dr. Gempesaw is sending a clear message about where Lavin stands right now.
Which is a short plank. I don't really think Harrington cared about the program and as long as the team was just winning I think he would have been fine with that...
Gempesaw won't put up with that and he used to ref basketball and he said one of his biggest thrills was meeting Mullin...On multiple levels he is engaged and I think is already ready changing the attitude at SJU and if you don't fall in line you better jump ship or you will be gone.
If Lavin does end up staying he will be reigned in and all this inelgiable crap won't be tolerated.
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How is Dr. Gempesaw sending the "clear message"
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id be ok with letting keady coach them this tourney and ending my misery with lavin. I was such a backer of his at one time. This year was the end for me.
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How is Dr. Gempesaw sending the "clear message"
By stating he will review Lavin's cobtract at the end of the season...The Post picked up on that as well.
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Marco - which member of the committee told you SJU was a lock for the play in game after the CO announcement?
I read the text completely wrong. True story. That's why I changed it few mins after
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Just catching up. See we got SDSU. Who did Iona draw?
IoNIT
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@SJUCoachLavin: San Diego State prefers an up-tempo style of play, similar to ours. #SJUBB
@SJUCoachLavin: My quick snapshot, before we start doing our film work, is that it will be an up-tempo affair. #SJUBB
Ummmmm..... San Diego State was ranked 339th in the nation in pace!!! They are the polar opposite of an "up-tempo" team! I know they aren't in our conference but how does he not know this. Sounds like he's planning a great game plan once again..... #firelavin
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@SJUCoachLavin: San Diego State prefers an up-tempo style of play, similar to ours. #SJUBB
@SJUCoachLavin: My quick snapshot, before we start doing our film work, is that it will be an up-tempo affair. #SJUBB
Ummmmm..... San Diego State was ranked 339th in the nation in pace!!! They are the polar opposite of an "up-tempo" team! I know they aren't in our conference but how does he not know this. Sounds like he's planning a great game plan once again..... #firelavin
So Lavin says we play an up tempo style, but after the Providence game he said we are a better half court team. Makes sense to not play the style you are best at playing. Makes as much sense as anything else Lavin has said for the past 5 years.
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@SJUCoachLavin: San Diego State prefers an up-tempo style of play, similar to ours. #SJUBB
@SJUCoachLavin: My quick snapshot, before we start doing our film work, is that it will be an up-tempo affair. #SJUBB
Ummmmm..... San Diego State was ranked 339th in the nation in pace!!! They are the polar opposite of an "up-tempo" team! I know they aren't in our conference but how does he not know this. Sounds like he's planning a great game plan once again..... #firelavin
I couldn't believe that when I read it
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Has a coach ever been fired after the selection committee chose the field, but before a game was played? Would be great to see them fire Lavin, and give him a dose of his own medicine.
The Michigan team that beat Seton Hall for the NC was coached during the season by Bill Frieder. Before MU's first tournament game - versus Xavier - Frieder announced that he was leaving Michigan to coach Arizona State. Michigan AD Bo Schembechler fired Frieder: A Michigan man will coach Michigan he allegedly said. Michigan won the national championship under an interim coach: Steve Fisher.
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Big 10 - 7 bids
Big 12 - 7
BIG EAST - 6 bids
Acc - 6
Congrats to the Big East conference. Reports of its demise to mid-major conference status were premature.
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Big 10 - 7 bids
Big 12 - 7
BIG EAST - 6 bids
Acc - 6
Congrats to the Big East conference. Reports of its demise to mid-major conference status were premature.
Now they have to do something another important step.
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Big 10 - 7 bids
Big 12 - 7
BIG EAST - 6 bids
Acc - 6
Congrats to the Big East conference. Reports of its demise to mid-major conference status were premature.
Now they have to do something another important step.
How can they do something with key players getting suspended "for violation of team rules"?
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Big 10 - 7 bids
Big 12 - 7
BIG EAST - 6 bids
Acc - 6
Congrats to the Big East conference. Reports of its demise to mid-major conference status were premature.
Now they have to do something another important step.
How can they do something with key players getting suspended "for violation of team rules"?
I meant the conference as a whole. If all six teams failed to make it to the secobd weekend that would be a big step back and obvious disappointment...The league probably can't count on SJU to help solve that issue.
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Big 10 - 7 bids
Big 12 - 7
BIG EAST - 6 bids
Acc - 6
Congrats to the Big East conference. Reports of its demise to mid-major conference status were premature.
Now they have to do something another important step.
How can they do something with key players getting suspended "for violation of team rules"?
I meant the conference as a whole.
I know. 16.7% of their team's chances have been compromised.
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On the top line , KY is of course, the flat out favorite and highly probable winner, but beneath that there's a great deal of parity and probably many, many competitive games and/or upsets....even more than in recent years.
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I like Northern Iowa to the sweet 16
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What channel are tonight's game on?
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What channel are tonight's game on?
TruTV I believe
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Disney
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A guy told me.
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Disney
That's just crazy. I'm not stupid enough to believe crazy rumors
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Disney
That's just crazy. I'm not stupid enough to believe crazy rumors
Considering some on here speculated on a fight amongst players, etc, it was not close to being out of the realm of possibility.
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.I know but I can't tell you.....maybe later
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Disney
That's just crazy. I'm not stupid enough to believe crazy rumors
Considering some on here speculated on a fight amongst players, etc, it was not close to being out of the realm of possibility.
Ya if I saw it on Twitter, maybe I would believe it
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Jaspers a 9 point favorite
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Is that TRUE?
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Disney
That's just crazy. I'm not stupid enough to believe crazy rumors
Considering some on here speculated on a fight amongst players, etc, it was not close to being out of the realm of possibility.
Ya if I saw it on Twitter, maybe I would believe it
I will never doubt any bball rumors until they finally can be true or untrue.
When Gary Williams suddenly retired in May '11, in early June some 65 y.o. twitter poster from Charlottesville with 15 followers posted a Justin Anderson to UVA post with no reference to anything else. Turned out Anderson did have a quick unofficial visit. Everything else pointed to Turgeon at least getting a shot to keep him. Terps fans pounded the guy. Turned out he was lucky or knew something. I will wait out rumors until I 100 % know an outcome later on. Lesson learned
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Broadcast just had Masiello peptalk
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Let's go Manhattan!
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Let's go Manhattan!
Here we go Jaspers!
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Disney
That's just crazy. I'm not stupid enough to believe crazy rumors
Considering some on here speculated on a fight amongst players, etc, it was not close to being out of the realm of possibility.
Ya if I saw it on Twitter, maybe I would believe it
I will never doubt any bball rumors until they finally can be true or untrue.
When Gary Williams suddenly retired in May '11, in early June some 65 y.o. twitter poster from Charlottesville with 15 followers posted a Justin Anderson to UVA post with no reference to anything else. Turned out Anderson did have a quick unofficial visit. Everything else pointed to Turgeon at least getting a shot to keep him. Terps fans pounded the guy. Turned out he was lucky or knew something. I will wait out rumors until I 100 % know an outcome later on. Lesson learned
Yes sir. I won't be convinced until the layup line
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Jaspers need to get Richards some shots
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We need to get you rabies shots.
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We need to get you rabies shots.
Zzz. You bore me. Move on
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Pal. Exactly. Glad to hear. Seriously. Drivel. Imagine that someone can bore the great Baldi.
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I recommend ignoring me.
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I recommend ignoring me.
Hnk you do realize you are far more annoying than Baldi don't you. Grating
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If Manhattan loses can we stop the Masiello talk?
In all seriousness, I find it hard to believe that he would leave once season removed from his lying fiasco a year ago. If he does leave, I would question the man's ethics, to be quite honest. He could be out of job this year if it wasn't for Manhattan taking him back. They deserve some loyalty, more than one more token year.. My opinion
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Jaspers can't hit side of a barn early
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Paultzman...I have a lot of respect for you. I'll think about that. Y do you give him a pass though?
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Paultzman...I have a lot of respect for you. I'll think about that. Y do you give him a pass though?
I know him a little, but disagree with him very often, but choose not to needle him constantly to detriment of board. Ignore him or pick your shots would be my preferred route.
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I'm Paultzman...I have a lot of respect for you. I'll think about that. Y do you give him a pass though?
you are making purely personal comments/attacks. Look back and you'll see. Question Baldi all you want, but take any rumors from anybody with a grain of salt. As I just posted, I usually wait and see. I have no "sources," so I just stay open to hearing anything, but don't spend much time on it.
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BYU is no joke, shooting the lights out. Damn
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Great game thus far.
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BYU is no joke, shooting the lights out. Damn
Mush lol
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BYU blowing a big lead...
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Never heard of this Moody, baller!
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Didn't think Ole Miss deserved a spot after they lost to South Carolina in Nashville. Proved me wrong.
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Really entertaining game tonight between Ole Miss and BYU. Ole Miss proved the doubters wrong in terms if they should have been in or not. I feel they deserved a bid with their resume, which included a neutral win over cincy, a road win over oregon and a road win over arkansas, not to mention they almost beat Kentucky on the road. The NCAA always likes teams that play well off the home floor, probably why Ole Miss got in over Colorado St, temple, etc.
Still dont get why UCLA got in... :idiot2:
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Ole Miss vs BYU game was great!
Reminded me of old school UNLV and Oklahoma under Tubbs. I think they played in the tourney one year and the game was in the 90's as well
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If Manhattan loses can we stop the Masiello talk?
In all seriousness, I find it hard to believe that he would leave once season removed from his lying fiasco a year ago. If he does leave, I would question the man's ethics, to be quite honest. He could be out of job this year if it wasn't for Manhattan taking him back. They deserve some loyalty, more than one more token year.. My opinion
I believe his contract forbids his leaving for X amount of years which is why they extended the offer to take him back.
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this is on the left side of the screen right now, lol https://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/578291354041745410/photo/1
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Irrelevant!
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I don't think the North Florida coach used a timeout the entire game.
With that said Robert Morris wins, revenge game on tap! :D
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this is on the left side of the screen right now, lol https://twitter.com/StJohnsBBall/status/578291354041745410/photo/1
Impressive!
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Watching ESPN, Jim Calhoun talks so fast. Like he's been hitting the 8 ball all morning. Great insight though. He likes Davidson
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Watching UAB, they play HARD, just not shooting it well
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Watching ESPN, Jim Calhoun talks so fast. Like he's been hitting the 8 ball all morning. Great insight though. He likes Davidson
Have to admit even I laughed at that one.
There was a funny post back in 2009 in the Hartford Courant. If you remember just before the 2009 Tourney Calhoun was ill and was going to miss their opening round game, they were a 1 seed.
I remember in the comment section of the article announcing his absence all of these UCONN fans were sending their get well messages. Things like “Feel Better Jimmy” and “Here’s to a quick recovery.” Then someone wrote…”Don’t worry Jim a hangover usually only lasts a day…”
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Fire Hoiberg!!
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Fred Hoiberg lost.
He must suck in the world of SJU message board fans.
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Fred Hoiberg lost.
He must suck in the world of SJU message board fans.
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Fred Hoiberg lost.
He must suck in the world of SJU message board fans.
Iowa State fans deserve better, heard the school had an emergency board of directors meeting in the suite following loss. Just a rumor though
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Lots of speculation that this will be Hoiberg's last game and that he'll take the Bulls job. Wonder how that impacts Diallo.
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Already lost 1 of my final 4 teams. Love this shit
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UAB wasn't the youngest team in the country but the youngest team in te tournament...
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Love Georgia States coach lmao
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Amazing end of game!!!
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I had Iowa St. and Baylor in the final four....Kentucky and Virginia should be very afraid.
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Fred Hoiberg lost.
He must suck in the world of SJU message board fans.
That's crazy talk!
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Fred Hoiberg lost.
He must suck in the world of SJU message board fans.
Did you know that Lavin has the greatest winning percentage in the first weekend of the tournament in the history of college basketball?
He would NEVER lose a first or second round game.
Steve Lavin = the first round legend
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Roosevelt Jones hurt...bye bye Butler
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I had Iowa St. and Baylor in the final four....Kentucky and Virginia should be very afraid.
Hahaha great post.
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Not so fast. Kellen Dunham can really take over a game.
Anybody who was at that game @ Carnesecca knows this!
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Amazing end of game!!!
That kid drained that 3 from the NCAA logo. With no conscious
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I'm hoping I spoke to soon and reverse jinxed them. Jones just trotted back out to the bench, and Butler has extended the lead to 8...now 6
Now 4. I'm gonna stop talking...
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I'm rooting heavily for the Big East teams. I think Nova (obviously) and Butler can really make some noise. I like Providence too.
Gtown can win a couple of games. Us maybe 1. Don't like Xavier.
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Does anyone know the Heimlich maneuver? The Big 12 needs you immediately....
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Does anyone know the Heimlich maneuver? The Big 12 needs you immediately....
To be fair, Butler is the favorite. But yea, Baylor shat the bed, Iowa State too.
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Does anyone know the Heimlich maneuver? The Big 12 needs you immediately....
To be fair, Butler is the favorite. But yea, Baylor shat the bed, Iowa State too.
I agree, in reference to Butler/Texas. But I was referring, as you stated, to Baylor and Iowa State. Texas shouldn't even be there, IMO. But they're currently in position to grab a win. Hopefully, Butler can hold 'em off.
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Dunham is money when it counts.
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Does anyone know the Heimlich maneuver? The Big 12 needs you immediately....
To be fair, Butler is the favorite. But yea, Baylor shat the bed, Iowa State too.
I agree, in reference to Butler/Texas. But I was referring, as you stated, to Baylor and Iowa State. Texas shouldn't even be there, IMO. But they're currently in position to grab a win. Hopefully, Butler can hold 'em off.
I agree that UT's resume may not have warranted a bid, but I'm somewhat glad they made the tournament. All season long I've felt they have very high upside.
Granted, I wish they weren't playing a Big East team right off the bat. But I think they can do some damage, including give ND a run if they get beyond Butler.
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I think it's quite obvious that Butler won because of me. You're welcome Bulldogs...
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I missed that end of the SmU UCLA game, what happeneed
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Never would want Hoiberg or Drew as coaches - cannot coach a lick - ;D
It's a lock this will be the quote of the entire tournament:
http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-basketball/quote-of-march-madness-so-far-ballers-make-plays-dudes-are-dudes/ (http://www.sportsgrid.com/ncaa-basketball/quote-of-march-madness-so-far-ballers-make-plays-dudes-are-dudes/)
"Ballers Make Plays, Dudes are Dudes.." :2funny:
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I missed that end of the SmU UCLA game, what happeneed
SMU goaltended on a three. Semi controversial as it wasn't going to hit the rim at all. But it was still above the cylinder.
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I missed that end of the SmU UCLA game, what happeneed
Goaltending on a three point shot. It wasn't close to goal tending.
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I missed that end of the SmU UCLA game, what happeneed
Goaltending on a three point shot. It wasn't close to goal tending.
It was kinda close, IMO. Basically, I wouldn't have had a problem either way.
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Thanks boys!
Stainbrook with tech! This is a crazy day
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I have a big Irish family, so I run my family bracket pool. I fiollow college ball all year, and I swear I never finish in the top 10. Gotta love March
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georgia state, uab, ucla, endings have been ridiculous today. and a good showing by the big east so far!
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I missed that end of the SmU UCLA game, what happeneed
Goaltending on a three point shot. It wasn't close to goal tending.
It was kinda close, IMO. Basically, I wouldn't have had a problem either way.
It was absolutely a goaltend. The ball was on the way down towards hitting the rim and he definitely touched it. It was a goaltend because he altered trajectory. It likely would have bounced off front of rim but IMHO clearly a goal tend after watching several angles. Can't toch a three ball coming down towards the rim.
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I missed that end of the SmU UCLA game, what happeneed
Goaltending on a three point shot. It wasn't close to goal tending.
It was kinda close, IMO. Basically, I wouldn't have had a problem either way.
It was absolutely a goaltend. The ball was on the way down towards hitting the rim and he definitely touched it. It was a goaltend because he altered trajectory. It likely would have bounced off front of rim but IMHO clearly a goal tend after watching several angles. Can't toch a three ball coming down towards the rim.
Especially up only 2 points!
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Look at the pic in the link. I also saw the video from other angles. Way too close to the rim for refs not to call it a goaltend. To me it shouldnt even be that controversial. If they went to video, the call would stand imo.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/ucla-smu-goaltending-replay-officials-ncaa-tournament
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Coaches wait too long when taking the last shot. They send their guys with 6 seconds and end up with a garbage shot. Got to go to the hoop with 11 secs
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Coaches wait too long when taking the last shot. They send their guys with 6 seconds and end up with a garbage shot. Got to go to the hoop with 11 secs
Agreed. I'd rather have a shot at a put back or quick hitter on a rebound and worry about d-ing up if we score with 5-6 secs left.
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Ball had no shot to hit the rim and was not in the cylinder.
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Look at the pic in the link. I also saw the video from other angles. Way too close to the rim for refs not to call it a goaltend. To me it shouldnt even be that controversial. If they went to video, the call would stand imo.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/ucla-smu-goaltending-replay-officials-ncaa-tournament
That ball is clearly already past the rim. It was an airball, he overshot it.
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Look at the pic in the link. I also saw the video from other angles. Way too close to the rim for refs not to call it a goaltend. To me it shouldnt even be that controversial. If they went to video, the call would stand imo.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/ucla-smu-goaltending-replay-officials-ncaa-tournament
If that was goaltending NC State owes Houston a national championship.
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Look at the pic in the link. I also saw the video from other angles. Way too close to the rim for refs not to call it a goaltend. To me it shouldnt even be that controversial. If they went to video, the call would stand imo.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/ucla-smu-goaltending-replay-officials-ncaa-tournament
If that was goaltending NC State owes Houston a national championship.
Exactly. If that's goaltending, most Alley-oops should be wiped off the board.
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Look at the pic in the link. I also saw the video from other angles. Way too close to the rim for refs not to call it a goaltend. To me it shouldnt even be that controversial. If they went to video, the call would stand imo.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/ucla-smu-goaltending-replay-officials-ncaa-tournament
That ball is clearly already past the rim. It was an airball, he overshot it.
We will see what Adams and the official assignments say - if it was a clear mistake, none of them will work the next round.
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Who was the team wearing 2 different sneakers?
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Look at the pic in the link. I also saw the video from other angles. Way too close to the rim for refs not to call it a goaltend. To me it shouldnt even be that controversial. If they went to video, the call would stand imo.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/ucla-smu-goaltending-replay-officials-ncaa-tournament
I thought it was a clear air ball that went wide. Horrible way to lose...impossible call to make for the refs live.
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Pretty sure this is the best 1st day on any tournament I've seen. Good Lord
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Pretty sure this is the best 1st day on any tournament I've seen. Good Lord
If only Harvard could have finished off the tar holes
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Pretty sure this is the best 1st day on any tournament I've seen. Good Lord
If only Harvard could have finished off the tar holes
Ya man. Roy Williams is the worst
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Another buzzer beater. Nc state
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Awesome day of basketball.
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Tomorrow's games will suck. I'm "working" from home.
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Tomorrow's games will suck. I'm "working" from home.
As long as the last one doesn't. :)
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What is a Wofford?
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Who the hell is Bradley Hayes?
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No tech on Trawick for his typical nonsense? That was BS. Gtown's physicality wore down Eastern Washington and shooting a high-clip from 3 always helps...
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Who the hell is Bradley Hayes?
I believe he's a junior. He rarely plays, but his mere size is killing Eastern Washington. He engineered G'town's late, first half surge by getting offensive boards and putting 'em back in for buckets. He does look coordinated. We could use him right about now. LOL
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Who the hell is Bradley Hayes?
I believe he's a junior. He rarely plays, but his mere size is killing Eastern Washington. He engineered G'town's late, first half surge by getting offensive boards and putting 'em back in for buckets. He does look coordinated. We could use him right about now. LOL
Right now we could use Robby Benson from the movie One on One. :)
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Outstanding, gutsy and proper goal tending call by the ref. Meanwhile I heard him getting hammered by the disloyal alumni radio host with all the callers also piling on.
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Great day of games. Hope tomorrow is even better.
;D :up:
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Tomorrow's games will suck. I'm "working" from home.
Obviously. I only got about 2 hours of basketball in yesterday. Today I'm off at 2, and as you said, the games will all be terrible.
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Is Felix OK to go tonight?
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Get to see Remi Barry take on Kansas at 12:15 today.
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Look at the pic in the link. I also saw the video from other angles. Way too close to the rim for refs not to call it a goaltend. To me it shouldnt even be that controversial. If they went to video, the call would stand imo.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/03/ucla-smu-goaltending-replay-officials-ncaa-tournament
If that was goaltending NC State owes Houston a national championship.
Exactly. If that's goaltending, most Alley-oops should be wiped off the board.
“Goaltending occurs when a defensive player touches the ball during a field-goal try and each of the following conditions is met:
1. The ball is on its downward flight; and
2. The ball is above the level of the ring and has the possibility, while in flight, of entering the basket and is not touching the cylinder.
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Jarrod Haase got old looking
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Day One must have been one of the best day's for the BE in the tournament--4-0. Let's go Friars and Redmen!!!!
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Hoping "New York's" Upstate team pulls this out.
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Hoping "New York's" Upstate team pulls this out.
Almost. Valiant effort by Buffalo.
Get Bobby Hurley now - lol
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That dude that missed the wide open layup on Buffalo was brutal.
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Refs handing this game to Maryland
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Rob Morris not going down without a fight
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Jordan with 2 fouls, fck
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Jesus, that's being a St. John's fan in a nutshell right there. The kid who transfers from your program comes out and banks 2 threes in the first 5 minutes. Hahahah
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Jones is a mess.
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Couldn't have started worse
Polee with two garbage lucky three pointers and Jordan two fouls
Win or get canned lavin
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Dom is a man possessed
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Pointer unstoppable
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What a start by Dom. It's get it and go. Running all ovrr
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Brutal turnover
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If pointer is hurt it's beyond over
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Sds taking a lot of 3s
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Pointer no more 3s lol
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Bye Lavin!
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I thought this was suppose to be a poor shooting team? What is this lying bullcrap?
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7 of 16 threes...Polee 4-5 from three...we're 0-6 but shooting 50%. 7 threes the difference - cannot last all game. Far from over.
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Lack of a bench is killing us
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Lack of a bench is killing us
SDS agility of big men helping get too many off rebs, even with our five collapsing. Zones create too much stagnancy at times
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at least jordan won't be tired in 2nd half
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D'Lo from Queeens!!!!!!
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Awful first half...rysheed no show. Not surprised, everyone is so mercurial
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They've been hitting shots out their arse. It's one of those games where if we keep grinding and keep pursuing on D, we'll make a move. I hope Lavin adjusts
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SDSU can't keep shooting like that right? Hopefully we don't fade away in the second half...
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They've been hitting shots out their arse. It's one of those games where if we keep grinding and keep pursuing on D, we'll make a move. I hope Lavin adjusts
This team is at its worse coming out the break. The first 3-4 minutes coming out of the half will be telling.
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Watching
Lack of a bench is killing us
SDS agility of big men helping get too many off rebs, even with our five collapsing. Zones create too much stagnancy at times
Probably the worst team for us to play without Obekpa. Sucks.
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Watching Lack of a bench is killing us
SDS agility of big men helping get too many off rebs, even with our five collapsing. Zones create too much stagnancy at times
Probably the worst team for us to play without Obekpa. Sucks.
Not even close imo. Hopefully we get a chance to see a worse matchup without obekpa on Sunday.
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Watching Lack of a bench is killing us
SDS agility of big men helping get too many off rebs, even with our five collapsing. Zones create too much stagnancy at times
Probably the worst team for us to play without Obekpa. Sucks.
It does. Obekpa would have changed quite a few of those driving shots by O'Brien. Gotta suck it up, maybe go to man at the start of the half to throw them out of the three ball game. Gotta roll the dice on it imho, at least go in and out of it to affect their rhythm.
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Play your best players until they foul out. Balls to the wall
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SDS averages 61 points per game
They have 40
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Jordan should be the big difference in the second half...penetrating...drawing fouls....hitting jumpers....and long defense to stop the threes or challenge them
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Play your best players until they foul out. Balls to the wall
Yes - gotta hope Rysheed picks it up in second half and stays at 2 or 3 fouls
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Pointer trending on Twitter
https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Sir%20Dom%22&src=tren
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Down 7 with nothing from Jordan. Hopefully we keep attaching and their shots stop going in!
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Jordan should be the big difference in the second half...penetrating...drawing fouls....hitting jumpers....and long defense to stop the threes or challenge them
Do you think Lavin should throw man to man at them, at least for first 2-3 min of half?
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Pointer has a chance to play in the league. He plays an all around game. fun to watch.
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No more banked 3's and I think we can win.
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Please go man to man and don't double down. It's that simple. No one has a great post game for them. Cut the weak zone shit out and just play what you're best at.
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Pointer has a chance to play in the league. He plays an all around game. fun to watch.
I think he has the most NBA potential than anyone on our roster.
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Polee going nut
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Harrison...pathetic
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Get...Out..of...the...Zone!!!
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And there's the timeout
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No foul call there?
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Harrison trying so hard.....all heart man
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Can't win if we can't get rebounds. We can play great defense but if we give up 2nd and 3rd chances, it's irrelevant.
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And there's the timeout
Baldi they were on a 5-2 run to start the half
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Think we need to start pressing and speeding them up and hopefully forcing some turnovers. Hopefully that's what this TO is about
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Harrison...pathetic
Hahah Dan the man
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Whose that foulon
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Was hoping for a better performance. Disappointing.
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How many more Fast and Furious movies could they possibly make?
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Has anyone told Harrison he's in the NCAA tournament and maybe he should show up.
Jordan making an no NBA for me statement
Greene making Carmine proud.
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Ali had himself a nice couple of mins in the 1st half defensively so what does Lavin do? Gives him no time on the court.
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Has anyone told Harrison he's in the NCAA tournament and maybe he should show up
Has anyone told moon mullin the games on? You serious with that stuff?
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Love the effort.....they are playing theyre ass,off
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I could watch d'angelo in a St. John's uniform for the rest of my life. Kid is 100% blood and guts. You fans are pathetic
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Love the effort.....they are playing theyre ass,off
agreed. Their size is hurting us and they have been shooting lights out. You have to figure they are going to get cold soon.. Effort is there
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No one can say this team isnt giving everything they got....no secrets..obekba is the reason why were down
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Wtf Branch cmon
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that pass by branch, oofah
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geez, three possessions with turnovers. Gotta capitalize
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Branch trying to throw a no-look behind the back pass in the NCAA tournament. Give me a break.
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San Diego st sucks, just too big
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San Diego st sucks, just too big
Yup. I think we win easily with Obekpa.
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if big king blunt was here, the inside game is different and we could stick on the 3s better
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They are not too big. We are too small.
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Ugh, just sloppy, they can't build any momentum...
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San Diego st sucks, just too big
think they are a pretty good team. But yes, their size is killing us
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Ugh, just sloppy, they can't build any momentum...
we needs the chaos, just gotta finish at the rim like Jordan just did.
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Got a break there
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This Pope is going to be some player
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Gotta hit the free throws
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We had our opportunities to get back in it.
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we're gassed...too bad we dont have any time outs we can use to get the players a rest...oh wait
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Sigh. What a shitty way to go out.
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we're gassed...too bad we dont have any time outs we can use to get the players a rest...oh wait
Lavins waiting for a made basket
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lack of bench , lack of size...good thing we have a big front line coming next season .........
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Fire Lavin
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never had a chance. More size, more skill, ,more depth, better coach.
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
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When it was five, pushed hard to finish at rim, but came up empty. Then O discipline broke down with quick shots, capitulation has started.
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White kid killed us
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Not gonna win with production from 2 1/2 players. Loved watching you seniors play.
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Can't go 2-14 from 3 and expect to win
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Goddamn rebounds killing us
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White kid killed us
Don't they always?
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
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Goddamn rebounds killing us
Now we see how bad CO hurt us.
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Why wait 13 seconds than foul?
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
definition of a troll.
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Wtf again
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Loved Jordan's hustle tonight
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
I do like Lavin. I also don't say fire the coach while we're giving 100% in the middle of a tournament game.
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Great career Harrison
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
I do like Lavin. I also don't say fire the coach while we're giving 100% in the middle of a tournament game.
If you like lavin you're just dead wrong...and you accept being barely mediocre
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Hey guys lets just enjoy what this team gave us this year.....special thanks to Dlo Dom and the seniors.....
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Love you D'lo. Thank you.
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good group of kids. sad, to see it end. Played hard tonight, but outmanned.
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Not sure why Amar got so few minutes when we got destroyed on the boards
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
I do like Lavin. I also don't say fire the coach while we're giving 100% in the middle of a tournament game.
If you like lavin you're just dead wrong...and you accept being barely mediocre
Can you take your sh!t to another thread?
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The more the season went on the more rysheed reminded me of dlo. Come on back rysheed.
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
I do like Lavin. I also don't say fire the coach while we're giving 100% in the middle of a tournament game.
If you like lavin you're just dead wrong...and you accept being barely mediocre
zip it - you're out of line bringing it up now. If we were in a bar together, you'd be on your ass right now
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If Jordan doesn't come back they're even more screwed
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Played their hearts out from beginning to end. Hands were tied with no bigs and no bench
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
I do like Lavin. I also don't say fire the coach while we're giving 100% in the middle of a tournament game.
If you like lavin you're just dead wrong...and you accept being barely mediocre
zip it - you're out of line bringing it up now. If we were in a bar together, you'd be on your ass right now
What a meathead...oooh tough guy online
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Played their hearts out from beginning to end. Hands were tied with no bigs and no bench
agreed
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Played their hearts out from beginning to end. Hands were tied with no bigs and no bench
They really did man. Love those guys.
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Kids played hard. Tough to win when your center is 6'6. It's on the coach. Have to have more than one big that can actually play.
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Played their hearts out from beginning to end. Hands were tied with no bigs and no bench
Yep. Intensity level was there the whole game. SDS put together a nice overall game. Hard to match - we needed to bring the A game 3 pt shooting, but they brought it. Pollee had a beautiful offensive game tonight
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
I do like Lavin. I also don't say fire the coach while we're giving 100% in the middle of a tournament game.
If you like lavin you're just dead wrong...and you accept being barely mediocre
zip it - you're out of line bringing it up now. If we were in a bar together, you'd be on your ass right now
What a meathead...oooh tough guy online
All of your posts are negative. Look in the mirror buddy.
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They definitely played hard but its nice personic to pick times when it's okay to say what. Lavin is inept. But the players went hard
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Played their hearts out from beginning to end. Hands were tied with no bigs and no bench
Yep. Intensity level was there the whole game. SDS put together a nice overall game. Hard to match - we needed to bring the A game 3 pt shooting, but they brought it. Pollee had a beautiful offensive game tonight
Those early 3's killed us. Game takes on a different feel if we take lead. 2 bank 3's wtf... and then the sub comes in and drills another 3 three's. Last thing we needed was to be chasing
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Fire Lavin
You are a disgrace of a fan.
You like lavin? Enabler
I do like Lavin. I also don't say fire the coach while we're giving 100% in the middle of a tournament game.
If you like lavin you're just dead wrong...and you accept being barely mediocre
zip it - you're out of line bringing it up now. If we were in a bar together, you'd be on your ass right now
What a meathead...oooh tough guy online
All of your posts are negative. Look in the mirror buddy.
...are we in another dimension? Outside of the players giving it a good effort what is there to be positive about? With his own players one NCAA tournament appearance with a loss with a team of seniors
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Love these kids, was a pleasure to cheer for these guys for 4 years, thanks for the memories
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/johns1.jpg)
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Love these kids, was a pleasure to cheer for these guys for 4 years, thanks for the memories
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/johns1.jpg)
Frustrating loss, but they gave it there all and SDSU would have been tough to beat with CO...Lavin maybe have been right about them, they have were really good offensively.
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Been following for 63 years since freshmen year of high school. There will be a new bunch that you'll become fond of them
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First off, thank you Seniors. Been a pleasure to watch you grow and play the last 4 years. Some of my favorite all time Johnnies.
Now to our fearless leader. I get that Jordan's two early fouls changes how the first half gets played. They were shooting lots of 3's and making some (a few flukey) - we wanted them to chuck up 3's so fine. 7 point deficit at halftime, without Jordan and without us hitting 3's. Not insurmountable by any stretch.
But the second half. If you are going to play extra small, why a 2-3 zone? Why aren't we pressing and trying to speed up tempo and cause turnovers? And when it becomes apparent that Jamal needs a blow/isn't making an impact and Phil is having an off-game, why not throw a big body in there to prevent all of the easy paint shots, putbacks and offensive boards? No adjustments whatsoever. Compare that with Fisher - who the second we cut the lead to six or eight with a steal and the press started giving them trouble, he calls a timeout and gets some other ball handlers in the game. Just like in the first half he puts the white guy in to make a few treys. I thought Lavin got severely outcoached.
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Been following for 63 years since freshmen year of high school. There will be a new bunch that you'll become fond of them
You are the man.
Did you like the North Florida coach's quotable? => "Ballers Make Plays...Dudes are Dudes"
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- We desperately needed our first round opponent to be Texas A & M as Duane "Polee vault" Polee hits 3 threes in the 1st 4 minutes including two "the bank is open" if it wasn't for bad luck we'ld have no luck at all jobs. Was averaging 25% from three on the season. While we're on the subject of threes, a reserve that was averaging 5 pts a game went 4 of 5 from three.
- Savior had two fouls in the first minute and a half than sat the rest of the stanza. But as I've learned from this board, fouling frequently is a sure indicator of playing good defense. So Rysheed was really ballin.
- Sir with Love had a sensational first half with several incredible full court end to end rushes for scores. Weaving in and out of traffic jams like a veteran Nyc cabbie miraculously without losing the handle and finishing adeptly at the end. Like a Sean Evans wet dream. Fell and hurt his hip at some point and was never the same.
- St. John reserves totaled 0 pts, 1 rbd, 0 assts., 0 steals and 0 blocks.
SDS reserves tallied 24 pts, 17rbds, 4 assists, and 1 block.
I'm no expert, but this might have been a factor.
- Obluntpa and a society that penalizes individuals for an offense that in many circles ( no pun intended ) is no more egregious than drinking a beer screwed us.
- Did they have length and athletes or what? Looked like we were giving 6 inches at every position. Could easily have predicted this one from watching the layup line.
- That "Thank you seniors" thread is classy. Way to go fellas!
- Safe travels home to all the proud and loyal that went!
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Congratulations to Phil Greene IV! He finishes his career tied with Mel Utley at 29th on the St. John's University all-time scoring list. Mr. Utley hailed from Far Rockaway and averaged 17.6 pts. per game in the 74/74 season.
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I was very proud of the fans that traveled to the game.
But let me tell you, sleeping on it did not help. Still devastated.
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I was very proud of the fans that traveled to the game.
But let me tell you, sleeping on it did not help. Still devastated.
While I watched from home I needed a few drinks to calm down when it ended--did you have an "Irish" wake after the game down there???
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Anyone watching Cincy-UK? Cincy playing them real tough. And this guy DeBerry for Cincy who averaged 4 points and 2 boards this season is giving them fits.
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Cincy is lucky half is coming.
My brother played with Dakari Johnsons father at St Francis Brooklyn. His dad was a monster too
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I haven't watched a ton of Kentucky games this year. And I know Cincy isn't great. But seems like UK might not have faced as tough a team like them this year. Clearly getting frustrated.
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Octavius Ellis is in their heads.
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Villanova is in big trouble.
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And Nova is officially out.
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I wonder if the BE can take Arcidiacono's POY award back? What shame he has brought to our conference.
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Not totally surprised by this. NC State has big time talent, and matched up with Nova better than a lot of the other higher seeds in that bracket.
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That sucks, needed Nova to man up...
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Ochekfu got owned all night
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It's a good thing we never hired Jay Wright, or this shame would be ours to bear.
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It's a good thing we never hired Jay Wright, or this shame would be ours to bear.
Nova has first world Big East issues...Were still trying to learn not to poop where we eat...
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Georgetown in trouble as well.
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Good bye Gtown
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And Georgetown is about to go down.
Props to Xavier, but let's be honest. They caught a HUGE break when Georgia St stunned 3 seed Baylor. Having to play a 14 as opposed to a 3 is a GIFT.
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And just remember this when you start judging coaches soley on post-season success.
Since Villanova made the Final Four in 2009 Jay Wright has not gotten Nova to the second week yet. Remember in 2010 they barely beat Mike Rice and Robert Morris as a 2 seed before being knocked out by St. Mary's. Lost in the 8/9 to George Mason in 2011. Failed to make it in 2012. Lost in the 8/9 game to UNC in 2013, lost to UCONN as a 2 seed last year in the round of 32 and just lost as a 1 seed to NC St again in the round of 32.
And guess what, Georgetown is even "worse." Since they made the Final Four in 2007 they have failed to make it to the round of 16 for the last 8 years. Two times they were an NIT team, 2009 and 2014. In 2008 as a 2 seed they lost in the Round of 32 to of course Seth Curry and Davidson. 2010 lost to Ohio as the 3 seed in the round of 64. 2011 lost again right off the bat as a 6 seed to 11 seed VCU. 2012 they got to round of 32 as a 3 losing to 11 seeded NC St. 2013 they were a 2 seed and lost right off the bat to 15 seed Florida Gulf Coast. And now this year.
These are probably the 2 best programs not to mention the two best AND longest serving coaches in the BE and neither one as gotten to the second week in 6 and 8 years. Think about that.
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^^^But they both wear ties.
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And just remember when you start judging coaches soley on post-season success.
Since Villanova made the Final Four in 2009 Jay Wright has not gotten Nova to the second week yet. Remember in 2010 they barely beat Mike Rice and Robert Morris as a 2 seed before being knocked out by St. Mary's. Lost in the 8/9 to George Mason in 2011. Failed to make it in 2012. Lost in the 8/9 game to UNC in 2013, lost to UCONN as a 2 seed last year in the round of 32 and just lost as a 1 seed to NC St again in the round of 32.
And guess what, Georgetown is even "worse." Since they made the Final Four in 2007 they have failed to make it to the round of 16 for the last 8 years. Two times they were an NIT team, 2009 and 2014. In 2008 as a 2 seed they lost in the Round of 32 to of course Seth Curry and Davidson. 2010 lost to Ohio as the 3 seed in the round of 64. 2011 lost again right off the bat as a 6 seed to 11 seed VCU. 2012 they got to round of 32 as a 3 losing to 11 seeded NC St. 2013 they were a 2 seed and lost right off the bat to 15 seed Florida Gulf Coast. And now this year.
These are probably the 2 best programs not to mention the two best AND longest serving coaches in the BE and neither one as gotten to the second week in 6 and 8 years. Think about that.
I guess winning the BET doesn't count as post-season success
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I've always said I take Lavin over JT 3
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And just remember when you start judging coaches soley on post-season success.
Since Villanova made the Final Four in 2009 Jay Wright has not gotten Nova to the second week yet. Remember in 2010 they barely beat Mike Rice and Robert Morris as a 2 seed before being knocked out by St. Mary's. Lost in the 8/9 to George Mason in 2011. Failed to make it in 2012. Lost in the 8/9 game to UNC in 2013, lost to UCONN as a 2 seed last year in the round of 32 and just lost as a 1 seed to NC St again in the round of 32.
And guess what, Georgetown is even "worse." Since they made the Final Four in 2007 they have failed to make it to the round of 16 for the last 8 years. Two times they were an NIT team, 2009 and 2014. In 2008 as a 2 seed they lost in the Round of 32 to of course Seth Curry and Davidson. 2010 lost to Ohio as the 3 seed in the round of 64. 2011 lost again right off the bat as a 6 seed to 11 seed VCU. 2012 they got to round of 32 as a 3 losing to 11 seeded NC St. 2013 they were a 2 seed and lost right off the bat to 15 seed Florida Gulf Coast. And now this year.
These are probably the 2 best programs not to mention the two best AND longest serving coaches in the BE and neither one as gotten to the second week in 6 and 8 years. Think about that.
I guess winning the BET doesn't count as post-season success
No I never said that but what is your point. And to that they have a combined 1 title in that span.
Here is the bottom line they are both great coaches and great programs but think about this since 2007 Georgetown has a been a 3 seed twice and a 2 seed twice. Villanova since 2009 has a been a 2 seed twice and a 1 seed once. So in essence both teams combined since their last Final Four appearances have 7 seasons where they were 1,2 or 3 seed. Meaning legit Final Four contenders. And none of those years have they even produced a Round of 16 appearance. Not one.
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Big East the #2 ranked conference?
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My point is not to suggest anything other than it is very dangerous to judge conferences and individual teams and coaches soley on the success or failure in a 1 and done type of situation.
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And just remember when you start judging coaches soley on post-season success.
Since Villanova made the Final Four in 2009 Jay Wright has not gotten Nova to the second week yet. Remember in 2010 they barely beat Mike Rice and Robert Morris as a 2 seed before being knocked out by St. Mary's. Lost in the 8/9 to George Mason in 2011. Failed to make it in 2012. Lost in the 8/9 game to UNC in 2013, lost to UCONN as a 2 seed last year in the round of 32 and just lost as a 1 seed to NC St again in the round of 32.
And guess what, Georgetown is even "worse." Since they made the Final Four in 2007 they have failed to make it to the round of 16 for the last 8 years. Two times they were an NIT team, 2009 and 2014. In 2008 as a 2 seed they lost in the Round of 32 to of course Seth Curry and Davidson. 2010 lost to Ohio as the 3 seed in the round of 64. 2011 lost again right off the bat as a 6 seed to 11 seed VCU. 2012 they got to round of 32 as a 3 losing to 11 seeded NC St. 2013 they were a 2 seed and lost right off the bat to 15 seed Florida Gulf Coast. And now this year.
These are probably the 2 best programs not to mention the two best AND longest serving coaches in the BE and neither one as gotten to the second week in 6 and 8 years. Think about that.
I guess winning the BET doesn't count as post-season success
No I never said that but what is your point. And to that they have a combined 1 title in that span.
Here is the bottom line they are both great coaches and great programs but think about this since 2007 Georgetown has a been a 3 seed twice and a 2 seed twice. Villanova since 2009 has a been a 2 seed twice and a 1 seed once. So in essence both teams combined since their last Final Four appearances have 7 seasons where they were 1,2 or 3 seed. Meaning legit Final Four contenders. And none of those years have they even produced a Round of 16 appearance. Not one.
Not sure what your point is. So because JT3 and Wright lose early the NCAA tournament does that mean Lavin shouldn't be held accountable for his lack of NCAA tourney success here? Do your comments relate to Lavin at all or are you just speaking in generalities?
Also, Coach K has been bounced early in the tournament several times the past few years after having really good regular seasons. So has Bill Self. So has Roy Williams. So has Bo Ryan. In one-game tournaments that stuff happens
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And just remember when you start judging coaches soley on post-season success.
Since Villanova made the Final Four in 2009 Jay Wright has not gotten Nova to the second week yet. Remember in 2010 they barely beat Mike Rice and Robert Morris as a 2 seed before being knocked out by St. Mary's. Lost in the 8/9 to George Mason in 2011. Failed to make it in 2012. Lost in the 8/9 game to UNC in 2013, lost to UCONN as a 2 seed last year in the round of 32 and just lost as a 1 seed to NC St again in the round of 32.
And guess what, Georgetown is even "worse." Since they made the Final Four in 2007 they have failed to make it to the round of 16 for the last 8 years. Two times they were an NIT team, 2009 and 2014. In 2008 as a 2 seed they lost in the Round of 32 to of course Seth Curry and Davidson. 2010 lost to Ohio as the 3 seed in the round of 64. 2011 lost again right off the bat as a 6 seed to 11 seed VCU. 2012 they got to round of 32 as a 3 losing to 11 seeded NC St. 2013 they were a 2 seed and lost right off the bat to 15 seed Florida Gulf Coast. And now this year.
These are probably the 2 best programs not to mention the two best AND longest serving coaches in the BE and neither one as gotten to the second week in 6 and 8 years. Think about that.
I guess winning the BET doesn't count as post-season success
No I never said that but what is your point. And to that they have a combined 1 title in that span.
Here is the bottom line they are both great coaches and great programs but think about this since 2007 Georgetown has a been a 3 seed twice and a 2 seed twice. Villanova since 2009 has a been a 2 seed twice and a 1 seed once. So in essence both teams combined since their last Final Four appearances have 7 seasons where they were 1,2 or 3 seed. Meaning legit Final Four contenders. And none of those years have they even produced a Round of 16 appearance. Not one.
Not sure what your point is. So because JT3 and Wright lose early the NCAA tournament does that mean Lavin shouldn't be held accountable for his lack of NCAA tourney success here? Do your comments relate to Lavin at all or are you just speaking in generalities?
Also, Coach K has been bounced early in the tournament several times the past few years after having really good regular seasons. So has Bill Self. So has Roy Williams. So has Bo Ryan. In one-game tournaments that stuff happens
Exactly. Which is why people who want Lavin fired should not point to 2 first round exits. If you are saying 2 tourneys in 5 years is not good enough, I agree with you. But I'd also like to ask who could we bring in that would do better? I'm ok with letting Lavin continue pushing this program in a positive direction from where we were under Norm. But if we can't get to the point where we make the tourney at least every other season then I agree maybe it's time for a change
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And just remember when you start judging coaches soley on post-season success.
Since Villanova made the Final Four in 2009 Jay Wright has not gotten Nova to the second week yet. Remember in 2010 they barely beat Mike Rice and Robert Morris as a 2 seed before being knocked out by St. Mary's. Lost in the 8/9 to George Mason in 2011. Failed to make it in 2012. Lost in the 8/9 game to UNC in 2013, lost to UCONN as a 2 seed last year in the round of 32 and just lost as a 1 seed to NC St again in the round of 32.
And guess what, Georgetown is even "worse." Since they made the Final Four in 2007 they have failed to make it to the round of 16 for the last 8 years. Two times they were an NIT team, 2009 and 2014. In 2008 as a 2 seed they lost in the Round of 32 to of course Seth Curry and Davidson. 2010 lost to Ohio as the 3 seed in the round of 64. 2011 lost again right off the bat as a 6 seed to 11 seed VCU. 2012 they got to round of 32 as a 3 losing to 11 seeded NC St. 2013 they were a 2 seed and lost right off the bat to 15 seed Florida Gulf Coast. And now this year.
These are probably the 2 best programs not to mention the two best AND longest serving coaches in the BE and neither one as gotten to the second week in 6 and 8 years. Think about that.
I guess winning the BET doesn't count as post-season success
No I never said that but what is your point. And to that they have a combined 1 title in that span.
Here is the bottom line they are both great coaches and great programs but think about this since 2007 Georgetown has a been a 3 seed twice and a 2 seed twice. Villanova since 2009 has a been a 2 seed twice and a 1 seed once. So in essence both teams combined since their last Final Four appearances have 7 seasons where they were 1,2 or 3 seed. Meaning legit Final Four contenders. And none of those years have they even produced a Round of 16 appearance. Not one.
Not sure what your point is. So because JT3 and Wright lose early the NCAA tournament does that mean Lavin shouldn't be held accountable for his lack of NCAA tourney success here? Do your comments relate to Lavin at all or are you just speaking in generalities?
Also, Coach K has been bounced early in the tournament several times the past few years after having really good regular seasons. So has Bill Self. So has Roy Williams. So has Bo Ryan. In one-game tournaments that stuff happens
Exactly. Which is why people who want Lavin fired should not point to 2 first round exits. If you are saying 2 tourneys in 5 years is not good enough, I agree with you. But I'd also like to ask who could we bring in that would do better? I'm ok with letting Lavin continue pushing this program in a positive direction from where we were under Norm. But if we can't get to the point where we make the tourney at least every other season then I agree maybe it's time for a change
Exactly. I am not hear to defend Lavin at all cost. He is big boy who makes good money he can take the criticism,
But I think a 2 year extension with the right buyout and the right incentives is fair after his first 5 years and then we'll see where SJU is in 2 years.
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And just remember when you start judging coaches soley on post-season success.
Since Villanova made the Final Four in 2009 Jay Wright has not gotten Nova to the second week yet. Remember in 2010 they barely beat Mike Rice and Robert Morris as a 2 seed before being knocked out by St. Mary's. Lost in the 8/9 to George Mason in 2011. Failed to make it in 2012. Lost in the 8/9 game to UNC in 2013, lost to UCONN as a 2 seed last year in the round of 32 and just lost as a 1 seed to NC St again in the round of 32.
And guess what, Georgetown is even "worse." Since they made the Final Four in 2007 they have failed to make it to the round of 16 for the last 8 years. Two times they were an NIT team, 2009 and 2014. In 2008 as a 2 seed they lost in the Round of 32 to of course Seth Curry and Davidson. 2010 lost to Ohio as the 3 seed in the round of 64. 2011 lost again right off the bat as a 6 seed to 11 seed VCU. 2012 they got to round of 32 as a 3 losing to 11 seeded NC St. 2013 they were a 2 seed and lost right off the bat to 15 seed Florida Gulf Coast. And now this year.
These are probably the 2 best programs not to mention the two best AND longest serving coaches in the BE and neither one as gotten to the second week in 6 and 8 years. Think about that.
I guess winning the BET doesn't count as post-season success
No I never said that but what is your point. And to that they have a combined 1 title in that span.
Here is the bottom line they are both great coaches and great programs but think about this since 2007 Georgetown has a been a 3 seed twice and a 2 seed twice. Villanova since 2009 has a been a 2 seed twice and a 1 seed once. So in essence both teams combined since their last Final Four appearances have 7 seasons where they were 1,2 or 3 seed. Meaning legit Final Four contenders. And none of those years have they even produced a Round of 16 appearance. Not one.
Not sure what your point is. So because JT3 and Wright lose early the NCAA tournament does that mean Lavin shouldn't be held accountable for his lack of NCAA tourney success here? Do your comments relate to Lavin at all or are you just speaking in generalities?
Also, Coach K has been bounced early in the tournament several times the past few years after having really good regular seasons. So has Bill Self. So has Roy Williams. So has Bo Ryan. In one-game tournaments that stuff happens
I answered that and you are making my point. People are putting too much weight on the game last night. If you think Lavin is not the right guy then last night winning or losing should have no bearing.
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It's not just about the results. The easy argument to make against Lavin isn't "just two tourney appearances in 5 years", but rather the direction the program is headed.
Our only two potential starters still on our roster are gigantic question marks where nobody here would be surprised if either of them left the program to play in Taiwan next year.
We have 3 recruits signed up for next year. All 3 are guards and only 1 is viewed as an impact recruit.
Our entire recruiting class from a year ago resulted in 2 ineligibles, 1 average recruit (Amar), and a bunch of "recruited" walk-on guards.
We just played in an NCAA tournament game with our entire bench consisting of possibly the two worst players in the Big East (JDR and Jones) and previously aforementioned average freshman.
I think it's easy to sit here and see how despite him taking the program in a positive direction---most of that was that initial class and splash he made with the first year. Ever since then, it's been getting worse. And now that class is entirely gone and we're left with nothing but question marks.
Now before I get pegged as a Lavin hater, I'm about 50/50 on firing and extending (leaning a bit more towards firing). I definitely do appreciate the initial class he brought in and the Obekpa/Jordan recruitments. I do also think the team was better coached this year (although it isn't saying much...plus they were mostly seniors....)
The one thing I don't want is taking no action and forcing him to be a lame duck.
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I know for a fact that Lavin will make the tourney 3 times in the next five years; then 4 times in the five years after that. In fifteen years, we will be Duke.
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Well, BE just got slaughter again...Thank God for Xavier. At least the BE improved from last year.
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Well, BE just got slaughter again...Thank God for Xavier. At least the BE improved from last year.
Hahaha and Xavier is only standing because they got gifted a 14 seed in the second round. We need them to win one more or the analysts will be all over us. Is the ACC 9-0? I heard that in the Butler game...if so, gross.
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Notre Dame beats Butler. Mike Brey lost his mom today.
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ACC and the Pac 12 are undefeated so far
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I know Randy Freer and the Fox ppl are not happy!
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I know Randy Freer and the Fox ppl are not happy!
1 team to the sweet 16 in 2 years is awful. How many bids did big east get last year?
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4 last but I in play in game.
6 out of 10 this year is a great number. 4-2 on day 1. Would have liked to see 3 advance to Sweet 16. Big 12 - which got 7 and is the highest rated conference - is 3-4 thus far and I think will lose 2 more today. Better way to rate a conference is to see how it performs throughout the year, not in one and done format.
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This is why the BE needs two more teams. Create more separation from top to bottom of League and avoids teams beating eachother up
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4 last but I in play in game.
6 out of 10 this year is a great number. 4-2 on day 1. Would have liked to see 3 advance to Sweet 16. Big 12 - which got 7 and is the highest rated conference - is 3-4 thus far and I think will lose 2 more today. Better way to rate a conference is to see how it performs throughout the year, not in one and done format.
People don't remember the regular season, it's all about the playoffs. See the NY Giants Super Bowl runs. The Yankees won more games I. The 80s then any other team, does anybody know/ care about that star?
The Big 12 has football so they will always be considered a major conference....The BE defiantly improved but being almost wiped out two years in a row in the first weekend is not good to say the least...
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If we get 6 out of 10 every year Moose the conference will be in great shape. Need to keep scheduling strong OOC because those wins really helped the RPI.
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Fox doesn't carry the tournament games. Obviously it helps the conference brand to go deeper but 6 bids makes the season a success. It's a long term play for Fox, and the BE took a step forward this year. If Nova made the elite 8, would Fox ratings improve next season as a result? I'd bet no impact.
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I know Randy Freer and the Fox ppl are not happy!
1 team to the sweet 16 in 2 years is awful. How many bids did big east get last year?
So the Big 12 also sucks and last year the AAC was the best conference in the country?
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I know Randy Freer and the Fox ppl are not happy!
1 team to the sweet 16 in 2 years is awful. How many bids did big east get last year?
So the Big 12 also sucks and last year the AAC was the best conference in the country?
No. But maybe some conferences are a bit overrated
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I disagree, but that's fair enough.
My view would be that the BE has been looked at as a major conference the last two years rather than a high-major (power 5 or whatever). That leaves it underrated IMO.
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Tom Izzo is amazing.
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
This ^
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
This ^
This^xThis^=This^2
;D
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
As big east fans, lately we have no choice but to believe this. All we have is regular season
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
As big east fans, lately we have no choice but to believe this. All we have is regular season
Yup, only conference in history where this has happened in tournament play. Keep on keeping on
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
As big east fans, lately we have no choice but to believe this. All we have is regular season
Yup, only conference in history where this has happened in tournament play. Keep on keeping on
History. At least we got that
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
As big east fans, lately we have no choice but to believe this. All we have is regular season
Yup, only conference in history where this has happened in tournament play. Keep on keeping on
History. At least we got that
Yup, when you don't have an educated response, deflect. Good plan
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Who has taken more abuse lately Lavin or baldi?
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
As big east fans, lately we have no choice but to believe this. All we have is regular season
Yup, only conference in history where this has happened in tournament play. Keep on keeping on
History. At least we got that
Yup, when you don't have an educated response, deflect. Good plan
Me or Lavin?
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
As big east fans, lately we have no choice but to believe this. All we have is regular season
Yup, only conference in history where this has happened in tournament play. Keep on keeping on
History. At least we got that
Yup, when you don't have an educated response, deflect. Good plan
Me or Lavin?
Both, good company you are in. No wonder you dislike the guy, you know what they say, looking in the mirror and all of that.
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
As big east fans, lately we have no choice but to believe this. All we have is regular season
Yup, only conference in history where this has happened in tournament play. Keep on keeping on
History. At least we got that
Yup, when you don't have an educated response, deflect. Good plan
Me or Lavin?
Both, good company you are in. No wonder you dislike the guy, you know what they say, looking in the mirror and all of that.
All Amir Garret's fault
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Think it is hard to characterize the strength/weakness of conferences based on how teams perform in a one-and-done format (taking into account matchups, etc). Better analysis is how a conference performs against others throughout the year.
Not if you are anti Big East and St. John's then that is very relevant. Just ask Baldi
As big east fans, lately we have no choice but to believe this. All we have is regular season
Yup, only conference in history where this has happened in tournament play. Keep on keeping on
History. At least we got that
Yup, when you don't have an educated response, deflect. Good plan
Me or Lavin?
Both, good company you are in. No wonder you dislike the guy, you know what they say, looking in the mirror and all of that.
All Amir Garret's fault
Baldi that is such bullshit. It's also Jakarr Sampson's and Maurice Harkless' fault, too.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAuflPDUQAANjeo.jpg)
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>:(
That's what makes SJU so special it brings out the potential of people.
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Villanova Fan Playing Piccolo After March Madness Loss Is Saddest Fan You'll See
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2404954-villanova-fan-playing-piccolo-after-march-madness-loss-is-saddest-fan-youll-see?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
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http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=12543543 The link is how the ACC is about to make bank for how well did in the tournament. The New York Post also had an article on the BE flames out for the second year in a row http://nypost.com/2015/03/23/the-harsh-indictment-ncaa-tournament-hands-the-big-east/ . People will remember how Nova choked and how UCLA got hot. The two "best" conferences performed poorly in this tournament, but one of the them is part of the big five and has football to look forward to.
What made the BE so succesful in the 80s was how well they did in the tournament and the personalities of the coaches. Fox sports may pay up now but they are watching ...
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Both ND and Wichita St start 4 guards
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Both ND and Wichita St start 4 guards
They all move without the ball beautifully. Actually, ND has Auguste and Conaughton as F/C, so really 3. I meant G/F as I was interpreting the forward side of things - lol
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Great start for Irish. This should be a classic game.
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Both ND and Wichita St start 4 guards
Money Talks - we could get Marshall for 3.5 MIL per - lol. Bama going bamming
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Marshall will be a HR wherever he ends up. Great coach
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Marshall will be a HR wherever he ends up. Great coach
Does he go to the huge football school? Or wait until next year when the Indiana job opens up?
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ND putting on a clinic against Wichita St.
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I think Marshall is one of the ten best coaches in the country.
ND plays 4 guards sometimes, but Vastoria and Conaughton are basically 3's on the college level - and the latter plays much bigger than he is. Throw in Grant's length, and the fact that those three plus the point guard can all shoot the 3, and ND can get away with it. Most teams can't. And in other games this year ND has put in the other big kid who is the de facto 6th man to play with Augustine, when they are getting beat up inside or on the boards.
Wichita has a number of forwards who can play down low and on the boards, in addition to Carter. Both very different from a size standpoint than St. John's regular lineup this year.
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I think Marshall is one of the ten best coaches in the country.
ND plays 4 guards sometimes, but Vastoria and Conaughton are basically 3's on the college level - and the latter plays much bigger than he is. Throw in Grant's length, and the fact that those three plus the point guard can all shoot the 3, and ND can get away with it. Most teams can't. And in other games this year ND has put in the other big kid who is the de facto 6th man to play with Augustine, when they are getting beat up inside or on the boards.
Wichita has a number of forwards who can play down low and on the boards, in addition to Carter. Both very different from a size standpoint than St. John's regular lineup this year.
Grant does everything well. I cannot believe that after Jerai, Jerian, and Jerami, youngest Jaelin has not developed to their level. They say the youngest is usually best, but not in this case. He just stagnated at DeMatha.
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Notre Dame's first Elite 8 appearance in 36 years.
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Notre Dame's first Elite 8 appearance in 36 years.
I was just thinking about the '79 team the other night when Kelly Tripucka was a co-analyst on the radio.
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Should have called the MD game tight like this...sheesh. They're going to have 30 fouls easily
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Xavier taking it to Zona
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Stainbrook playing sensational against a pro-sized front line with crazy athleticism. Nuts to watch Xavier hang with Zona and yet we beat them twice.
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Xavier taking it to Zona
You jinx! Lol
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Xavier taking it to Zona
ahhh fock
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McConnell, why can't we get a pg like this
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
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And it's good bye and so long Big East...
Xaiver put up a hell of a fight.
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UCLA is not passing Baldi's eye test
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UCLA is not passing Baldi's eye test
Baldi, not the place for it, but would you get behind a Mullin or Hurley hire?
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UCLA is not passing Baldi's eye test
Baldi, not the place for it, but would you get behind a Mullin or Hurley hire?
Hell yea, Massielo too. No retreads
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UCLA is not passing Baldi's eye test
Baldi, not the place for it, but would you get behind a Mullin or Hurley hire?
Hell yea, Massielo too. No retreads
It'd be nice to have you back on board. It would be great if we could get all hands on deck for at least a few seasons.
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UCLA is not passing Baldi's eye test
Baldi, not the place for it, but would you get behind a Mullin or Hurley hire?
Hell yea, Massielo too. No retreads
It'd be nice to have you back on board. It would be great if we could get all hands on deck for at least a few seasons.
I think its Dan Hurley
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
Keith Van Horn
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
Sam Dekker channeled his inner Bo Agee: "Let it Rain!!!"
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
Keith Van Horn
Chandler Parsons.
Sean Miller badly out coached by Bo Ryan in the second half.
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
Keith Van Horn
Chandler Parsons.
Sean Miller badly out coached by Bo Ryan in the second half.
Bo Ryan and Izzo 1a and 1b
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
Keith Van Horn
Chandler Parsons.
Sean Miller badly out coached by Bo Ryan in the second half.
What was he supposed to do? Wisconsin didn't miss. Surprised they were able to keep it that close. Only mistake I saw was not fouling on that possession in the last minute
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Sam Dekker's scholarships offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
Milwaukee
Northern Illinois
Northern Iowa
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
Keith Van Horn
Chandler Parsons.
Sean Miller badly out coached by Bo Ryan in the second half.
Bo Ryan and Izzo 1a and 1b
absolutely agree
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
Keith Van Horn
Chandler Parsons.
Sean Miller badly out coached by Bo Ryan in the second half.
What was he supposed to do? Wisconsin didn't miss. Surprised they were able to keep it that close. Only mistake I saw was not fouling on that possession in the last minute
They got mostly wide open looks by exploiting matchups. Miller was reactive, Ryan proactive - even though Zona is way more talented. Bo Ryan was just as critical in that 2H as Kominsky.
Kinda reminded me of K vs Lavin in the 2H in February. Plumlee of all people making the difference
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Sam Dekker's scholarships offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
Milwaukee
Northern Illinois
Northern Iowa
no way ... he was playing in some all-star games his senior year. He was clearly super athletic when I watched him. I will find which one. He wasn't a McD AA, but he was top 75.
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Sam Dekker's scholarships offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
Milwaukee
Northern Illinois
Northern Iowa
no way ... he was playing in some all-star games his senior year. He was clearly super athletic when I watched him. I will find which one. He wasn't a McD AA, but he was top 75.
This was from ESPN and rivals
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Was a top 100 recruit, but Baldi s right. Not a lot of big offers
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Sam Dekker's scholarships offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
Milwaukee
Northern Illinois
Northern Iowa
wow
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Sam Dekker's scholarships offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
Milwaukee
Northern Illinois
Northern Iowa
no way ... he was playing in some all-star games his senior year. He was clearly super athletic when I watched him. I will find which one. He wasn't a McD AA, but he was top 75.
This was from ESPN and rivals
that is correct. He must have committed early, because I was wrong. It was the McD AA game where I watched him. Dekker was 19 RSCIfinal rating for 2012.
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Ashley Judd's hat getting pulled a little further over her face :crazy2:
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Ashley Judd's hat getting pulled a little further over her face :crazy2:
About time she went home
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Frank the tanks offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
DePaul
Northern Illinois
Northwestern
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Sam Dekker's game is going to translate to NBA. Long career for him
This
Keith Van Horn
Chandler Parsons.
Sean Miller badly out coached by Bo Ryan in the second half.
Bo Ryan and Izzo 1a and 1b
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=6246.msg103043#msg103043
been saying it for years. Ryan is pound for pound best coach in the country.
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hell of a game, give Kentucky credit, clutch plays down the stretch. Harrison better player than given credit for.
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hell of a game, give Kentucky credit, clutch plays down the stretch. Harrison better player than given credit for.
They keep winning. I think Andrew will never be more than a 2nd rounder, but Aaron can break 1st Rd in next year's draft. Andrew's lack of foot speed and lacking outside shot will hinDer him.
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Well the BE record of three teams in the final four will stay intact...ACC can still has a good shot for two.
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Sam Dekker's scholarships offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
Milwaukee
Northern Illinois
Northern Iowa
no way ... he was playing in some all-star games his senior year. He was clearly super athletic when I watched him. I will find which one. He wasn't a McD AA, but he was top 75.
This was from ESPN and rivals
that is correct. He must have committed early, because I was wrong. It was the McD AA game where I watched him. Dekker was 19 RSCIfinal rating for 2012.
Correct, purist. Dekker was a top 20 talent and a McDonald's AA to boot. He committed to Wisconsin right after his sophomore year in HS. He started blowing up after his commitment to Wisconsin. Scouting services are only showing the schools listed prior to his "coming of age," per se'. Lack of homework, per usual, by one on here.
Good foresight by the program.
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Sam Dekker's scholarships offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
Milwaukee
Northern Illinois
Northern Iowa
no way ... he was playing in some all-star games his senior year. He was clearly super athletic when I watched him. I will find which one. He wasn't a McD AA, but he was top 75.
This was from ESPN and rivals
that is correct. He must have committed early, because I was wrong. It was the McD AA game where I watched him. Dekker was 19 RSCIfinal rating for 2012.
Correct, purist. Dekker was a top 20 talent and a McDonald's AA to boot. He committed to Wisconsin right after his sophomore year in HS. He started blowing up after his commitment to Wisconsin. Scouting services are only showing the schools listed prior to his "coming of age," per se'. Lack of homework, per usual, by one on here.
Good foresight by the program.
Thanks for confirming. I recall watching the game and thinking, "man, this Dekker is like a kangaroo, jumping all over the place." I always enjoy watching his energy on the court. Tonight's shooting was fabuluous.
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Sam Dekker's scholarships offers
Wisconsin
Bradley
Milwaukee
Northern Illinois
Northern Iowa
no way ... he was playing in some all-star games his senior year. He was clearly super athletic when I watched him. I will find which one. He wasn't a McD AA, but he was top 75.
This was from ESPN and rivals
that is correct. He must have committed early, because I was wrong. It was the McD AA game where I watched him. Dekker was 19 RSCIfinal rating for 2012.
Correct, purist. Dekker was a top 20 talent and a McDonald's AA to boot. He committed to Wisconsin right after his sophomore year in HS. He started blowing up after his commitment to Wisconsin. Scouting services are only showing the schools listed prior to his "coming of age," per se'. Lack of homework, per usual, by one on here.
Good foresight by the program.
You mad bro?
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Pissing me off that they keep showing "New York's College Basketball Team" in the background when Mich State shoots FTs.
F Syracuse!
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How about this synergy. Duke last made the Final 4 in 2010, which was the last time SJU had a coaching search.
Also Duke was the no. 1 seed in the South where the South Regional was played in Houston in 2010 same as this year. And the Final 4 in 2010 was in Indy, Final 4 in 2015 is in Indy.
And just to throw this in, Michigan St was also in the Final 4 in 2010 as they are now.
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How about this synergy. Duke last made the Final 4 in 2010, which was the last time SJU had a coaching search.
Also Duke was the no. 1 seed in the South where the South Regional was played in Houston in 2010 same as this year. And the Final 4 in 2010 was in Indy, Final 4 in 2015 is in Indy.
And just to throw this in, Michigan St was also in the Final 4 in 2010 as they are now.
Hope the synergy also results in a Duke title....
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Baldi in Indy! Hanging with Barkley, Grant Hill and Reggie Miller
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Baldi in Indy! Hanging with Barkley, Grant Hill and Reggie Miller
Have fun baldi!
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Barkley is the man!
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Barkley is the man!
Baldi does vacations and getaways the right way now. Nice job man. Get some pictures drinking with barkley and get him to say turrible
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Barkley is the man!
Baldi does vacations and getaways the right way now. Nice job man. Get some pictures drinking with barkley and get him to say turrible
Barkley walks in "whose got question"
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Barkley is the man!
Baldi does vacations and getaways the right way now. Nice job man. Get some pictures drinking with barkley and get him to say turrible
Barkley walks in "whose got question"
you should get in a photo with a lot of people and send us a "Where's Baldi?" ala Where's Waldo...lol. enjoy
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refs doing their best to get KY to the finals....ridiculous
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refs doing their best to get KY to the finals....ridiculous
welll...been bad for both sides I thought
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the no technical was bad, otherwise the worm has turned late
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i love sam dekkars game, so smooth and confident. I think they are winning monday avenging their loss to duke.
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alrigth Wisc, now beat the most obnoxious program in the country
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Bye, Bye Calipari!
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I think this is one of the most inconsistent officiated tournaments I've ever watched though.
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besides the shot clock violation did anyone think frank had position on harrisons drive. I thought offensive he never had to slide his feet. Shaky officiating.
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besides the shot clock violation did anyone think frank had position on harrisons drive. I thought offensive he never had to slide his feet. Shaky officiating.
That looked like a charge to me. The no call on the slap?
And it was brutal both ways, I didn't see a foul on dekkers drive late in the game that they called on one of the harrisons.
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besides the shot clock violation did anyone think frank had position on harrisons drive. I thought offensive he never had to slide his feet. Shaky officiating.
That looked like a charge to me. The no call on the slap?
And it was brutal both ways, I didn't see a foul on dekkers drive late in the game that they called on one of the harrisons.
Officiating was really bad both ways; I couldn't tell who really benefited more. Hard to keep score there were so many questionable calls and non-calls.
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@JeffRabjohns: Frank Kaminsky, who avg. 1.8 points as a freshman but didn't mope, didn't transfer; is AP National Player of Year & playing for NCAA title.
Whoever worked with this guy on his footwork & post moves deserves a few dollars.
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@JeffRabjohns: Frank Kaminsky, who avg. 1.8 points as a freshman but didn't mope, didn't transfer; is AP National Player of Year & playing for NCAA title.
Whoever worked with this guy on his footwork & post moves deserves a few dollars.
It's a great example for all of the pussies out there that think it's everyone else's fault that they're on the bench.
There are big men camps where big men learn how to play. But instead, we go to Europe, because somehow there's value in that.
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Thankfully Wisconsin won...now I have someone to root for on Monday.
Liked this Barkley quote: ,"The internet..That's where fools go to feel important"
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Kentucky had a tremendous season. I just hope that Calipari, the players and the fans know that because of this loss, this entire season is a failure. And from now on, that's all they will ever be.
Failures.
And to think, people actually wanted that loser to coach to St.John's. Wait, is he seriously crying? Wow, they are all crying. Calipari, the players and the fans. Actually, I admit, I feel kinda bad for that 8 year old in the head band.
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Kentucky had a tremendous season. I just hope that Calipari, the players and the fans know that because of this loss, this entire season is a failure. And from now on, that's all they will ever be.
Failures.
And to think, people actually wanted that loser to coach to St.John's. Wait, is he seriously crying? Wow, they are all crying. Calipari, the players and the fans. Actually, I admit, I feel kinda bad for that 8 year old in the head band.
yeah, I felt a little bit worse for that kid than the Duke kid in '04 when Terps waxed them for ACC tourney title.
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Kentucky had a tremendous season. I just hope that Calipari, the players and the fans know that because of this loss, this entire season is a failure. And from now on, that's all they will ever be.
Failures.
And to think, people actually wanted that loser to coach to St.John's. Wait, is he seriously crying? Wow, they are all crying. Calipari, the players and the fans. Actually, I admit, I feel kinda bad for that 8 year old in the head band.
How can you say they had a tremendous season and then call it a failure. It's one or the other
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Kentucky had a tremendous season. I just hope that Calipari, the players and the fans know that because of this loss, this entire season is a failure. And from now on, that's all they will ever be.
Failures.
And to think, people actually wanted that loser to coach to St.John's. Wait, is he seriously crying? Wow, they are all crying. Calipari, the players and the fans. Actually, I admit, I feel kinda bad for that 8 year old in the head band.
How can you say they had a tremendous season and then call it a failure. It's one or the other
i think he's being sarcastic
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Kentucky had a tremendous season. I just hope that Calipari, the players and the fans know that because of this loss, this entire season is a failure. And from now on, that's all they will ever be.
Failures.
And to think, people actually wanted that loser to coach to St.John's. Wait, is he seriously crying? Wow, they are all crying. Calipari, the players and the fans. Actually, I admit, I feel kinda bad for that 8 year old in the head band.
How can you say they had a tremendous season and then call it a failure. It's one or the other
i think he's being sarcastic
I was being scarcastic, but after hearing Andrew Harrison's post game interview, I'm ok w a little suffering today. Suck it Kentucky. You blew it.
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Kentucky had a tremendous season. I just hope that Calipari, the players and the fans know that because of this loss, this entire season is a failure. And from now on, that's all they will ever be.
Failures.
And to think, people actually wanted that loser to coach to St.John's. Wait, is he seriously crying? Wow, they are all crying. Calipari, the players and the fans. Actually, I admit, I feel kinda bad for that 8 year old in the head band.
How can you say they had a tremendous season and then call it a failure. It's one or the other
i think he's being sarcastic
I was being scarcastic, but after hearing Andrew Harrison's post game interview, I'm ok w a little suffering today. Suck it Kentucky. You blew it.
Yessir - Stern did it - the fix was in again - ba ha ha ha - check it out
https://youtu.be/qgw4ZqmDWuU (https://youtu.be/qgw4ZqmDWuU)
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Calipari sabotaged himself yet again. Tyler Ulis should have played more minutes, I think he's better than both the Harrison's. That loss is on those 2 and Cal
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I think Kaminsky is going to pull Okafor out of the paint and I don't think anyone on Duke can guard. Dekker. 72-68 Wisky
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Baldi: I agree that Cal made a few real bad mistakes - sitting on the ball up 4 with a few minutes left (my recollection) and constantly allowing Decker/Kaminsky to get switches on smaller players (Booker) and exploit them.
Think Wisconsin wins, but disagree with your statement about Duke not being able to guard. Duke has played really good defense in the tournament, even though that was a weakness early in the year. Don't have many great individual defenders, but collectively have really stepped up. Will be interesting to see if Winslow, who I think is Duke's best individual defender, can handle Decker.
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Baldi: I agree that Cal made a few real bad mistakes - sitting on the ball up 4 with a few minutes left (my recollection) and constantly allowing Decker/Kaminsky to get switches on smaller players (Booker) and exploit them.
Think Wisconsin wins, but disagree with your statement about Duke not being able to guard. Duke has played really good defense in the tournament, even though that was a weakness early in the year. Don't have many great individual defenders, but collectively have really stepped up. Will be interesting to see if Winslow, who I think is Duke's best individual defender, can handle Decker.
Dukes guards are great defenders against penetrating offense. Michigan St offense is all about guard play. But Wisconsin is all picks and passing. Ball rarely hits the floor.
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Agree with that. Wisco is a much, much tougher cover than Mich St. - for Duke or anyone else. If Duke goes small, as they have, Hayes should have some post up opportunities against Jones or Allen.
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I think Kaminsky is going to pull Okafor out of the paint and I don't think anyone on Duke can guard. Dekker. 72-68 Wisky
Baldi THIS is what scares me about this matchup. Not sure who Okafor guards if Kaminsky isnt playing inside. Coach K hates zone and not sure if it would work great against Wisco, but that's not desirable either.
That said Duke 78-Wisco 72.
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Calipari sabotaged himself yet again. Tyler Ulis should have played more minutes, I think he's better than both the Harrison's. That loss is on those 2 and Cal
Bingo. the Harrisons played ok this season. Ulis was better for the team and should have had his PT phased out in the latter stages of the tourney.
Some might be surprised that Aaron shot 29+% from 3 point range this season. The perception was all the big 3s from last tourney, the reality was him missing the three at the end of the Wisky game because he missed at a higher rate this season as compared to last season.
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Towards the end Caliparis call timeout. Kentucky comes out and throws the ball inbounds to a Harrison for a 35 foot 3 pointer? That was the play drawn up in that timeout?
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I think Kaminsky is going to pull Okafor out of the paint and I don't think anyone on Duke can guard. Dekker. 72-68 Wisky
Watch the D 6'4" Gasser and 6'4" Koenig throw at Jones and Cook. Their length will bother them.
Nigel Hayes is going to step up even more tonight when Duke (Winslow and Amile) has trouble with Dekker. Hayes is going to put up 16/8 and be a huge part of Wisconsin's win.
69-64 Wisconsin takes it.
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Baldi: I agree that Cal made a few real bad mistakes - sitting on the ball up 4 with a few minutes left (my recollection) and constantly allowing Decker/Kaminsky to get switches on smaller players (Booker) and exploit them.
Think Wisconsin wins, but disagree with your statement about Duke not being able to guard. Duke has played really good defense in the tournament, even though that was a weakness early in the year. Don't have many great individual defenders, but collectively have really stepped up. Will be interesting to see if Winslow, who I think is Duke's best individual defender, can handle Decker.
Dukes guards are great defenders against penetrating offense. Michigan St offense is all about guard play. But Wisconsin is all picks and passing. Ball rarely hits the floor.
Watch what Nigel Hayes does off those picks - he's going to be nailing 10-15 footers.
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I think Kaminsky is going to pull Okafor out of the paint and I don't think anyone on Duke can guard. Dekker. 72-68 Wisky
Watch the D 6'4" Gasser and 6'4" Koenig throw at Jones and Cook. Their length will bother them.
Nigel Hayes is going to step up even more tonight when Duke (Winslow and Amile) has trouble with Dekker. Hayes is going to put up 16/8 and be a huge part of Wisconsin's win.
69-64 Wisconsin takes it.
Gasser D's it up, love a kid like this on your team . Tough as balls. koenig hit a few back breakers against Kentucky
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Gotta root for the red and white as seeing Duke loose is truly enjoyable. This should be different than first game as Dekker and Hayes both playing better.
As a Factoid--during Duke's non conference games they only trailed at half time once--guess who????
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Tonight's game is also a rematch from early-December. Duke went into Wisconsin during the ACC/Big10 matchup, and came out with a rather convincing win.
I expect a close one tonight, with Wisconsin winning a nailbiting rematch.
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I recall that Duke shot an incredible percentage in that game - like 60% or something. Don't see that happening again.
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Towards the end Caliparis call timeout. Kentucky comes out and throws the ball inbounds to a Harrison for a 35 foot 3 pointer? That was the play drawn up in that timeout?
He was open for the 35 footer lol
IMO Cal is not a great in game coach.
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Dekker is playing like a man amongst boys right now. Gotta go for the Badgers. I don't have any allegiance to either team so it should be a great spectator game to watch
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Last few years, in Late November early December I put some money on a team to win it all. This year I put $200 on Duke with 10/1 odds. Its been difficult to root for them this year, but I'll be rooting for them for 40 more minutes!!
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Last few years, in Late November early December I put some money on a team to win it all. This year I put $200 on Duke with 10/1 odds. Its been difficult to root for them this year, but I'll be rooting for them for 40 more minutes!!
Nice. Good luck!
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I would hedge that bet with a $1,000 on Wisky. Rather have a $1,000.00 in my pocket and root against Duke. 1,000 bird in the hand rather 2,000 in the bush.
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Soberest Barles Charkley has been in a few days
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Wisconsin -72
Duke -70
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Wisconsin -72
Duke -70
Haha I went with the exact same earlier
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Now at half time and still only one non ACC team has led Duke at this point in the game :)
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Disgraceful performance by the refs. Missed Winslow on the line which led to a bucket.....then did not reverse an out of bounds call which all the announcers and the entire country saw was off Duke. I believe Duke is favored by the NCAA and the refs have knowledge of this. K is the biggest ref baiter in the country and never gets a T. CONSPIRACY THEORY which is clearly justified. Too bad, an apparently clean program beaten by the disgrace that is Duke.
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Disgraceful performance by the refs. Missed Winslow on the line which led to a bucket.....then did not reverse an out of bounds call which all the announcers and the entire country saw was off Duke. I believe Duke is favored by the NCAA and the refs have knowledge of this. K is the biggest ref baiter in the country and never gets a T. CONSPIRACY THEORY which is clearly justified. Too bad, an apparently clean program beaten by the disgrace that is Duke.
You have to be kidding me right. Evidently you missed the game Saturday night when the refs missed an out of bounds and a blatant after the shot clock buckets by Wisconsin when they played Kentucky. The only team in foul trouble tonight was the Duke team that you say got all the calls.
Wisconsin was 3-14 after they had an 8 point lead and Tyus Jones hit big shot after big shot many of which were done with Okafor on the bench. None of that had anything to do with the officials. Duke's defense was stifling late.
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Tonight was about Mike Krzyzewski saying Kentucky maybe getting all the press but I am still the man and my program is the still the gold standard in basketball.
5 NC's. Second only to UCLA.
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-10-highest-paid-coaches-in-college-basketball-2015-03-27?page=3
Duke deserved it. I thought Wisky stopped going to Kaminski. He shouldve touched the ball on every poss last 4 mins of the game. This is why you get paid 10M a year.
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Disgraceful performance by the refs. Missed Winslow on the line which led to a bucket.....then did not reverse an out of bounds call which all the announcers and the entire country saw was off Duke. I believe Duke is favored by the NCAA and the refs have knowledge of this. K is the biggest ref baiter in the country and never gets a T. CONSPIRACY THEORY which is clearly justified. Too bad, an apparently clean program beaten by the disgrace that is Duke.
You have to be kidding me right. Evidently you missed the game Saturday night when the refs missed an out of bounds and a blatant after the shot clock buckets by Wisconsin when they played Kentucky. The only team in foul trouble tonight was the Duke team that you say got all the calls.
Wisconsin was 3-14 after they had an 8 point lead and Tyus Jones hit big shot after big shot many of which were done with Okafor on the bench. None of that had anything to do with the officials. Duke's defense was stifling late.
Fordham, there was about 6-7 plays in the second half where they could go either way and they all went towards duke. Both out of bounds on windslow weren't really even close.
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@StuJackson32: Congratulations to @BIGEASTMBB referees Mike Stephens and Pat Driscoll on working #finalfourchampionship. Exemplary country's best ref staff
Go Big East...Woooo...
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Embarassing for the NCAA.
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not kidding at all. The reason the fouls were out of proportion in the first half was Wisc did not foul, which they are known for. When the game was on the line the refs were in Ks pocket, as usual.
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What a whiny interview from bo Ryan.
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It took all tourney but I finally figured it out. Tyus Jones looks like a Leprechaun
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What a whiny interview from bo Ryan.
Congrats Kid!
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I'm hoping that Coach K now decides he has enough NC's to retire...
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It took all tourney but I finally figured it out. Tyus Jones looks like a Leprechaun
Or....we still remember last time K was in Indy...so did the Indy Star
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZOc3TJA69PutsS6X-ymlVZ5IuMyY2AUmNHQn3adRJ3IEK2NswZw)(http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/31/663/full/6415_duke_blue_devils-primary-1941.png)
(http://www.lancewilkerson.com/storage/pictures/basketball/CoachKIndyStar.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1270243555517)
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What a whiny interview from bo Ryan.
Congrats Kid!
Thanks carmine. Amile Jefferson unsung hero of the game. His defense on Kaminsky in the second half esp when okafor and Winslow were out was #$%^in awesome. Also Grayson Allen who looked absolutely clueless against St. John's and many others is apparently a killer. Shocking.
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What a whiny interview from bo Ryan.
Congrats Kid!
Thanks carmine. Amile Jefferson unsung hero of the game. His defense on Kaminsky in the second half esp when okafor and Winslow were out was #$%^in awesome. Also Grayson Allen who looked absolutely clueless against St. John's and many others is apparently a killer. Shocking.
Duke's teamwork on D got it done. Wisconsin took little advantage of the serious mismatches. They didn't work the ball as much as they normally do, and that's a credit to Amile as you said and their defenders stepping it up. Allen was unconscious. Without him, they most likely lose, even if Jones has a burst.
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Also Grayson Allen who looked absolutely clueless against St. John's and many others is apparently a killer. Shocking.
He hit a huge 3 when you went down 9 in second half.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2422861-grayson-allens-title-game-shows-hell-be-next-most-loved-and-hated-duke-star?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=cnn-sports-bin
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Wrong thread sorry