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Title: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: jumpinjohnny on April 14, 2018, 05:09:35 PM
Committed per Rothstein
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: RedStormNC on April 14, 2018, 05:12:11 PM
Guess we got the replacement for Marvin Clark after he graduates

Looking forward to what he can bring next year.  Hopefully he helps make practices competitive this season
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: prjohnnies on April 14, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Nice - good to get one on the board for a kid who I think will benefit from a sit out year and be able to contribute.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: fordham96 on April 14, 2018, 05:16:35 PM
Maybe he develops into the type of player I hoped Freudenberg could be if he stuck around.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: paultzman on April 14, 2018, 05:35:59 PM
David Caraher on St. John’s, “Honestly it was the guys and the culture. The tradition at St John’s is second to none. The coaches and guys made me feel at home and their plan for the program is exciting. Something I thought I needed to be part of.”  #sjubb
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: thetruth8734 on April 14, 2018, 06:17:10 PM
I like the addition. Seems like a good player, and had good numbers albeit at a lower level D-1. The thing that concerns me is he is from NC and not one local school was in on him. Is there a reason for that? I would think a guy who put up 16 and 7 as a freshman would be a hot commodity.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: QuanMan on April 14, 2018, 06:34:04 PM
Joins Mikey Dixon as transfers to join the program after winning conference ROY.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Johnny23 on April 14, 2018, 06:37:57 PM
Solid pickup for the '19-'20 season. Now let's get another big for next season.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on April 14, 2018, 06:47:00 PM
Welcome. He'll pay dividends immediately in practice stretching the floor and showing our guys real consequences for late closeouts and cheating too far. Nothing corrects bad habits like getting 4 treys drilled on you in a row.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 14, 2018, 06:48:09 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marillac on April 14, 2018, 06:49:37 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play

His dad is a strength and conditioning coach. When I learned that, I was all in.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Redy2Rumble on April 14, 2018, 06:50:47 PM
I like the addition. Seems like a good player, and had good numbers albeit at a lower level D-1. The thing that concerns me is he is from NC and not one local school was in on him. Is there a reason for that? I would think a guy who put up 16 and 7 as a freshman would be a hot commodity.

He committed to Butler before his Junior year.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: wpc77 on April 14, 2018, 07:08:17 PM
I like the addition. Seems like a good player, and had good numbers albeit at a lower level D-1. The thing that concerns me is he is from NC and not one local school was in on him. Is there a reason for that? I would think a guy who put up 16 and 7 as a freshman would be a hot commodity.

He committed to Butler before his Junior year.

That gave plenty of time for others to make a run at him.  Rumor at butler was that he was always looking for the next best thing.  In 3 years, he has switched high school twice, decommitted and now transferred from a college.  I am hopeful but this is something to be aware of
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: mjdinkins on April 14, 2018, 07:12:37 PM
I like the addition. Seems like a good player, and had good numbers albeit at a lower level D-1. The thing that concerns me is he is from NC and not one local school was in on him. Is there a reason for that? I would think a guy who put up 16 and 7 as a freshman would be a hot commodity.

He committed to Butler before his Junior year.

That gave plenty of time for others to make a run at him.  Rumor at butler was that he was always looking for the next best thing.  In 3 years, he has switched high school twice, decommitted and now transferred from a college.  I am hopeful but this is something to be aware of

Interesting.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 14, 2018, 07:27:35 PM
I like the addition. Seems like a good player, and had good numbers albeit at a lower level D-1. The thing that concerns me is he is from NC and not one local school was in on him. Is there a reason for that? I would think a guy who put up 16 and 7 as a freshman would be a hot commodity.

He committed to Butler before his Junior year.

That gave plenty of time for others to make a run at him.  Rumor at butler was that he was always looking for the next best thing.  In 3 years, he has switched high school twice, decommitted and now transferred from a college.  I am hopeful but this is something to be aware of

Sounds familiar
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 14, 2018, 07:35:22 PM
This took me by surprise. I know David and he was always quietly coming up with big plays. Athletically will be his biggest struggle but he immediately has more IQ than Amar and better sense of where to be and when.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 14, 2018, 07:44:55 PM
This took me by surprise. I know David and he was always quietly coming up with big plays. Athletically will be his biggest struggle but he immediately has more IQ than Amar and better sense of where to be and when.

Oh boy
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: tominsimsbury on April 14, 2018, 08:02:23 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play

At least there's one white boy for you to adopt.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: fordham96 on April 14, 2018, 08:23:10 PM
This took me by surprise. I know David and he was always quietly coming up with big plays. Athletically will be his biggest struggle but he immediately has more IQ than Amar and better sense of where to be and when.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/985272633745985537

Goodie got a scout's take.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 14, 2018, 08:29:36 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play

At least there's one white boy for you to adopt.

Racists cunts like the repulsive timinsimsbury see everything through a prism of color. Fortunately his kind are dying off.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 14, 2018, 08:34:35 PM
This took me by surprise. I know David and he was always quietly coming up with big plays. Athletically will be his biggest struggle but he immediately has more IQ than Amar and better sense of where to be and when.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/985272633745985537

Goodie got a scout's take.

Sounds like a freshmen Sam Hauser at Marquette. I'll take that.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 14, 2018, 08:35:26 PM
I like the addition. Seems like a good player, and had good numbers albeit at a lower level D-1. The thing that concerns me is he is from NC and not one local school was in on him. Is there a reason for that? I would think a guy who put up 16 and 7 as a freshman would be a hot commodity.

He committed to Butler before his Junior year.

That gave plenty of time for others to make a run at him. 

Other than UConn do a lot of programs spend their time recruiting players who've already committed elsewhere?

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Rumor at butler was that he was always looking for the next best thing.

Interesting. A, how are you privy to rumors at Butler. Who was spreading them, what did they say, who were they spread to. Do tell. B, who isn't looking for the next best thing. I certainly am. What are you looking for? The next worst thing?

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  I am hopeful

Yeah, you sound hopeful.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: MCNPA on April 14, 2018, 09:51:27 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play

He dropped 19 points and 7 rebounds on Providence this season in a loss.  Looks like he already is adjusted.  The season practicing and working out can only help...  seems a scrappy player who can shoot and rebound and is quite skilled.  Can post-up sf’s like Bootsy did.  Welcome aboard!
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: wpc77 on April 14, 2018, 10:05:00 PM
I like the addition. Seems like a good player, and had good numbers albeit at a lower level D-1. The thing that concerns me is he is from NC and not one local school was in on him. Is there a reason for that? I would think a guy who put up 16 and 7 as a freshman would be a hot commodity.

He committed to Butler before his Junior year.

That gave plenty of time for others to make a run at him. 

Other than UConn do a lot of programs spend their time recruiting players who've already committed elsewhere?

Quote
Rumor at butler was that he was always looking for the next best thing.

Interesting. A, how are you privy to rumors at Butler. Who was spreading them, what did they say, who were they spread to. Do tell. B, who isn't looking for the next best thing. I certainly am. What are you looking for? The next worst thing?

Quote
  I am hopeful

Yeah, you sound hopeful.

Ok pal.  Keep your head in the sand.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: ras on April 14, 2018, 11:38:27 PM
I like the addition. Seems like a good player, and had good numbers albeit at a lower level D-1. The thing that concerns me is he is from NC and not one local school was in on him. Is there a reason for that? I would think a guy who put up 16 and 7 as a freshman would be a hot commodity.

He committed to Butler before his Junior year.

That gave plenty of time for others to make a run at him.  Rumor at butler was that he was always looking for the next best thing.  In 3 years, he has switched high school twice, decommitted and now transferred from a college.  I am hopeful but this is something to be aware of
That explains him ending up at Houston Baptist.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: P1NSTR1PEZ on April 15, 2018, 09:23:52 AM
David Caraher on St. John’s, “Honestly it was the guys and the culture. The tradition at St John’s is second to none. The coaches and guys made me feel at home and their plan for the program is exciting. Something I thought I needed to be part of.”  #sjubb

happy to have him on board, but what exactly is this "plan for the program"??
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: P1NSTR1PEZ on April 15, 2018, 09:26:49 AM
This took me by surprise. I know David and he was always quietly coming up with big plays. Athletically will be his biggest struggle but he immediately has more IQ than Amar and better sense of where to be and when.

a rock has more IQ than Amar
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: fordham96 on April 15, 2018, 09:10:45 PM
https://stjohns.rivals.com/news/caraher-talks-about-st-john-s-commitment
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: thetruth8734 on April 15, 2018, 09:20:26 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play

He dropped 19 points and 7 rebounds on Providence this season in a loss.  Looks like he already is adjusted.  The season practicing and working out can only help...  seems a scrappy player who can shoot and rebound and is quite skilled.  Can post-up sf’s like Bootsy did.  Welcome aboard!

A friend who is a Providence fan said that PC blew them out and Caraher accumulated most of his stats during garbage time when PC wasn't playing starters or rotation players.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: fordham96 on April 15, 2018, 09:23:18 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play

He dropped 19 points and 7 rebounds on Providence this season in a loss.  Looks like he already is adjusted.  The season practicing and working out can only help...  seems a scrappy player who can shoot and rebound and is quite skilled.  Can post-up sf’s like Bootsy did.  Welcome aboard!

A friend who is a Providence fan said that PC blew them out and Caraher accumulated most of his stats during garbage time when PC wasn't playing starters or rotation players.

I guess that means he sucks.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: TONYD3 on April 15, 2018, 09:25:35 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play

He dropped 19 points and 7 rebounds on Providence this season in a loss.  Looks like he already is adjusted.  The season practicing and working out can only help...  seems a scrappy player who can shoot and rebound and is quite skilled.  Can post-up sf’s like Bootsy did.  Welcome aboard!

A friend who is a Providence fan said that PC blew them out and Caraher accumulated most of his stats during garbage time when PC wasn't playing starters or rotation players.
Houston Baptist went 6-25 last year. They did beat Incarnate word though.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: thetruth8734 on April 15, 2018, 09:26:15 PM
Looks good, hopefully he can use the time to adjust to Big East style of play

He dropped 19 points and 7 rebounds on Providence this season in a loss.  Looks like he already is adjusted.  The season practicing and working out can only help...  seems a scrappy player who can shoot and rebound and is quite skilled.  Can post-up sf’s like Bootsy did.  Welcome aboard!

A friend who is a Providence fan said that PC blew them out and Caraher accumulated most of his stats during garbage time when PC wasn't playing starters or rotation players.

I guess that means he sucks.

Nah it just means throwing out random stats without context is meaningless.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: mjdinkins on April 15, 2018, 09:55:13 PM
I just kinda glanced through the first half stats....  I believe Caraher had 9 or 10 points in the first half versus Providence.  Per both sides, this is why I like to do my homework before talking about a matter or subject. 

http://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2017-2018/mbb-gm1.html
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 15, 2018, 10:35:52 PM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 15, 2018, 10:41:40 PM
Houston Baptist went 6-25 last year. They did beat Incarnate word though.

Super fan TonyD takes a break from shitting in public toilets yo bring you this hot take on a player he'd never heard of three days ago. And he's single ladies.  Guys too maybe, because I don't don't to assume, because he seems pretty butch though.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: thetruth8734 on April 16, 2018, 01:34:00 AM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 16, 2018, 07:05:30 AM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.

If I'm so unpopular how come I keep winning Miss Congeniality stupid? Don't bother answering, that's rhetorical.

So anyway "thetruth," here's where Caraher scored against Providence.

18:40
17:06
8:31
5:43
3:21
-----
18:21
16:11
6:40

Doesn't look like he "accumulated most of his stats during garbage time." In fact, it doesn't look like he accumulated any stats during garbage time. I guess that makes you a liar, huh.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: TONYD3 on April 16, 2018, 08:23:28 AM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.

If I'm so unpopular how come I keep winning Miss Congeniality stupid? Don't bother answering, that's rhetorical.

So anyway "thetruth," here's where Caraher scored against Providence.

18:40
17:06
8:31
5:43
3:21
-----
18:21
16:11
6:40

Doesn't look like he "accumulated most of his stats during garbage time." In fact, it doesn't look like he accumulated any stats during garbage time. I guess that makes you a liar, huh.
Foady- Mikey dixion played against seton hall and Gonzaga. Guess how he did?
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 16, 2018, 09:36:22 AM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.

If I'm so unpopular how come I keep winning Miss Congeniality stupid? Don't bother answering, that's rhetorical.

So anyway "thetruth," here's where Caraher scored against Providence.

18:40
17:06
8:31
5:43
3:21
-----
18:21
16:11
6:40

Doesn't look like he "accumulated most of his stats during garbage time." In fact, it doesn't look like he accumulated any stats during garbage time. I guess that makes you a liar, huh.
Foady- Mikey dixion played against seton hall and Gonzaga. Guess how he did?

In the first place, this thread isn't about Mikey Dixion. Try and follow along. If you use your finger to keep your place that might help.

In the second place, if you're talking about this Mikey Dixion, the one who was Delaware State Player of the Year as a senior, who led his HS a state championship , who was a first team all state player as a junior, who was the MAAC rookie of the year and the 12th highest scoring freshman in Division 1, I don't know how he did against Seton Hall two years ago in the fourth game of his college career. Why don't you tell me. And then tell me why it matters.

In the third place, how come when I cite statistics you dismiss them by saying the sample size is too small, and yet here you are positing that two games out of 30 some kid played in two years ago are dispositive of his talent and prospects. Seems a bit disingenuous.

Now go eat a nice bran muffin and sit yourself down in some stinky train station toilet and write me a nice essay in response. As usual, spelling counts.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: longtimefan on April 16, 2018, 09:58:15 AM
Foad Rules. He doesn't always, but he surely does regarding the nice persons in this thread. Get a life guys. Your pathetic attempts to diminish Chris Mullin and his recruits just shows how poorly informed and disingenuous you all are. Do all true fans of St. John's basketball a favor and start rooting for Uconn.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: MCNPA on April 16, 2018, 11:22:12 AM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.

If I'm so unpopular how come I keep winning Miss Congeniality stupid? Don't bother answering, that's rhetorical.

So anyway "thetruth," here's where Caraher scored against Providence.

18:40
17:06
8:31
5:43
3:21
-----
18:21
16:11
6:40

Doesn't look like he "accumulated most of his stats during garbage time." In fact, it doesn't look like he accumulated any stats during garbage time. I guess that makes you a liar, huh.
Foady- Mikey dixion played against seton hall and Gonzaga. Guess how he did?

Oh cmon... he only played 8 minutes against Gonzaga, probably because injury or something and never looked back after that game.  Those two games were in his first four games of the season as a freshman...  in addition, I know this thread isn’t about Dixon, but I think people are sleeping on this kid.  If Ponds comes back, I think he and Dixon can be extremely hard to stop in the backcourt as scorers, coupled with G-Will, etc.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Poison on April 16, 2018, 01:06:43 PM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.

If I'm so unpopular how come I keep winning Miss Congeniality stupid? Don't bother answering, that's rhetorical.

So anyway "thetruth," here's where Caraher scored against Providence.

18:40
17:06
8:31
5:43
3:21
-----
18:21
16:11
6:40

Doesn't look like he "accumulated most of his stats during garbage time." In fact, it doesn't look like he accumulated any stats during garbage time. I guess that makes you a liar, huh.
Foady- Mikey dixion played against seton hall and Gonzaga. Guess how he did?

In the first place, this thread isn't about Mikey Dixion. Try and follow along. If you use your finger to keep your place that might help.

In the second place, if you're talking about this Mikey Dixion, the one who was Delaware State Player of the Year as a senior, who led his HS a state championship , who was a first team all state player as a junior, who was the MAAC rookie of the year and the 12th highest scoring freshman in Division 1, I don't know how he did against Seton Hall two years ago in the fourth game of his college career. Why don't you tell me. And then tell me why it matters.

In the third place, how come when I cite statistics you dismiss them by saying the sample size is too small, and yet here you are positing that two games out of 30 some kid played in two years ago are dispositive of his talent and prospects. Seems a bit disingenuous.

Now go eat a nice bran muffin and sit yourself down in some stinky train station toilet and write me a nice essay in response. As usual, spelling counts.

4 paragraphs later, Foad finally makes a reasonable point. It’s way too small of a sample to judge a freshman on. Most freshman will struggle against top competition. Even many of our best freshman have over the years. It’s time to see some examples of the staff’s ability to evaluate talent and then develop it. After watching Caraher for a full season I’m cautiously optimistic that the staff has seen enough potential in him that they know he can play in the BE.

Hopefully he doesn’t change his mind before that happens.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: thetruth8734 on April 16, 2018, 01:35:27 PM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.

If I'm so unpopular how come I keep winning Miss Congeniality stupid? Don't bother answering, that's rhetorical.

So anyway "thetruth," here's where Caraher scored against Providence.

18:40
17:06
8:31
5:43
3:21
-----
18:21
16:11
6:40

Doesn't look like he "accumulated most of his stats during garbage time." In fact, it doesn't look like he accumulated any stats during garbage time. I guess that makes you a liar, huh.

It makes my friend a liar I guess. I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that. Either way I agree with you that citing stats from one game of a player's freshman year is not a good way to evaluate a player which was my main point all along. If Amar Allebegovic had transferred how idiotic would it be for the team getting him's fans to say he may be good because he had 15 pts and 9 rebounds against Syracuse?
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: we are sju on April 16, 2018, 01:41:03 PM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.

Not true. Only the people he makes fun of dislike him. Now admittedly that is a fairly large list but certainly not the whole universe. But honestly his wraith is usually well directed. Count me as a fan. 
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 16, 2018, 01:52:47 PM
I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that.

Maybe if you took a moment to look things up you wouldn't be so wrong so often about so much.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: ras on April 16, 2018, 02:07:48 PM
That's why I like transfers after their freshman year. Add a redshirt year and when they are eligible, they are ready to contribute and have 3 years of eligibility left.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: RedStormNC on April 16, 2018, 02:14:33 PM
Not just at St. John's, but some of these freshman transfers will
end up becoming grad transfers like Owens.

 Hopefully not Simon next year.
 
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: thetruth8734 on April 16, 2018, 02:17:04 PM
I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that.

Maybe if you took a moment to look things up you wouldn't be so wrong so often about so much.

I'm not though. My point is still valid. Who cares how many points he had vs. certain teams. His team stunk, and the sample size is too small. He looks like he has some potential,  but I'll reserve judgment until he suits up for whatever coach is coaching the team in 2019.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: we are sju on April 16, 2018, 02:28:14 PM
I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that.

Maybe if you took a moment to look things up you wouldn't be so wrong so often about so much.

I'm not though. My point is still valid. Who cares how many points he had vs. certain teams. His team stunk, and the sample size is too small. He looks like he has some potential,  but I'll reserve judgment until he suits up for whatever coach is coaching the team in 2019.

Will either be Chris Mullin or someone else you will grow to dislike in short order.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 16, 2018, 03:03:11 PM
I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that.

Maybe if you took a moment to look things up you wouldn't be so wrong so often about so much.

I'm not though. My point is still valid. Who cares how many points he had vs. certain teams.

If you don't care about how he did versus certain teams why did you lie about how he did versus Providence.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: TONYD3 on April 16, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
A friend who is a Providence fan

You gave it away when you pretended you had a friend.

This coming from a guy who is universally hated on an online college basketball board lol.

If I'm so unpopular how come I keep winning Miss Congeniality stupid? Don't bother answering, that's rhetorical.

So anyway "thetruth," here's where Caraher scored against Providence.

18:40
17:06
8:31
5:43
3:21
-----
18:21
16:11
6:40

Doesn't look like he "accumulated most of his stats during garbage time." In fact, it doesn't look like he accumulated any stats during garbage time. I guess that makes you a liar, huh.
Foady- Mikey dixion played against seton hall and Gonzaga. Guess how he did?

In the first place, this thread isn't about Mikey Dixion. Try and follow along. If you use your finger to keep your place that might help.

In the second place, if you're talking about this Mikey Dixion, the one who was Delaware State Player of the Year as a senior, who led his HS a state championship , who was a first team all state player as a junior, who was the MAAC rookie of the year and the 12th highest scoring freshman in Division 1, I don't know how he did against Seton Hall two years ago in the fourth game of his college career. Why don't you tell me. And then tell me why it matters.

In the third place, how come when I cite statistics you dismiss them by saying the sample size is too small, and yet here you are positing that two games out of 30 some kid played in two years ago are dispositive of his talent and prospects. Seems a bit disingenuous.

Now go eat a nice bran muffin and sit yourself down in some stinky train station toilet and write me a nice essay in response. As usual, spelling counts.

4 paragraphs later, Foad finally makes a reasonable point. It’s way too small of a sample to judge a freshman on. Most freshman will struggle against top competition. Even many of our best freshman have over the years. It’s time to see some examples of the staff’s ability to evaluate talent and then develop it. After watching Caraher for a full season I’m cautiously optimistic that the staff has seen enough potential in him that they know he can play in the BE.

Hopefully he doesn’t change his mind before that happens.
Agree. Hope dixion is good. Hope Caraher is good also. These are ok recuits. We need some difference makers though. Just messing with foady.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on April 16, 2018, 06:31:24 PM
I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that.

Maybe if you took a moment to look things up you wouldn't be so wrong so often about so much.

I'm not though. My point is still valid. Who cares how many points he had vs. certain teams. His team stunk, and the sample size is too small. He looks like he has some potential,  but I'll reserve judgment until he suits up for whatever coach is coaching the team in 2019.

Will either be Chris Mullin or someone else you will grow to dislike in short order.
Probably wouldn't dislike next coach if he wins and recruits well. Current regime does neither.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: thetruth8734 on April 17, 2018, 01:09:22 AM
I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that.

Maybe if you took a moment to look things up you wouldn't be so wrong so often about so much.

I'm not though. My point is still valid. Who cares how many points he had vs. certain teams.

If you don't care about how he did versus certain teams why did you lie about how he did versus Providence.

I know you're not very smart so let me try to explain my whole point for you. I'll try to keep it simple. Saying he had this many points vs a certain team is meaningless. I used the Providence example to try to show that, admittedly I was wrong. I was misinformed. Either way saying how he did vs. PC, good or bad, will not show how he will do vs high major competition. We'll have to wait and see. I hope you're not locked up for all your serial killings by 2019 so we can both see how he does together and discuss. Hopefully he will be a good player for us.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 17, 2018, 08:12:07 AM
I know you're not very smart so let me try to explain my whole point for you. I'll try to keep it simple

Thanks Tesla, I'll try and keep up.


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Saying he had this many points vs a certain team is meaningless. I used the Providence example to try to show that, admittedly I was wrong.


Let me see if I'm following. In order to demonstrate that how many points Caraher had versus a certain team is meaningless, you discussed in excruciating detail how many points Caraher got versus Providence and how and where and when he got them. And to buttress your argument about the meaninglessness of how he did against a Providence you made up an imaginary friend with whom you allegedly discussed at some length how he did versus Providence, and everything you and your imaginary friend allegedly discussed about how he did versus Providence, which is meaningless, was a completely made up lie.

I detect a flaw in your argument. Because if you're trying to demonstrate that something is meaningless, the most important thing to do is to avoid assigning meaning to it. Like, if I said that Caraher scored 19 points against Providence because of the weather, and you said no the game was indoors so there's no way the weather had any effect on how he did, there'd be no need for you to make up an imaginary friend with whom you texted back and forth about the relatively humidity and the wind chill factor on game day. Because those things would be meaningless and by discussing them at all you're giving them meaning. Geddit dummy? If how Caraher did against PU is meaningless in terms of his prospects at SJU then how he got those points is immaterial. So besides being a completely false and made up lie, how Caraher did versus Providence - whether good or bad - is completely irrelevant to the argument you're attempting.

So to recap: you made up an irrelevant lie that tacitly admitted the truth of your opponents argument. You really completely out-stupided yourself. Kudos.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: we are sju on April 17, 2018, 09:57:36 AM
I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that.

Maybe if you took a moment to look things up you wouldn't be so wrong so often about so much.

I'm not though. My point is still valid. Who cares how many points he had vs. certain teams. His team stunk, and the sample size is too small. He looks like he has some potential,  but I'll reserve judgment until he suits up for whatever coach is coaching the team in 2019.

Will either be Chris Mullin or someone else you will grow to dislike in short order.
Probably wouldn't dislike next coach if he wins and recruits well. Current regime does neither.

Louie stopped coaching in 92.
So you have disliked ST JOHN'S coaches for 26 years? I think it is time to root for someone else.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: colelatshaw2010 on April 17, 2018, 10:37:20 PM
I actually have a life so I didn't go look up the minute by minute stats, but I guess when you're a no life serial killer like yourself you get plenty of time for stuff like that.

Maybe if you took a moment to look things up you wouldn't be so wrong so often about so much.

I'm not though. My point is still valid. Who cares how many points he had vs. certain teams. His team stunk, and the sample size is too small. He looks like he has some potential,  but I'll reserve judgment until he suits up for whatever coach is coaching the team in 2019.

Will either be Chris Mullin or someone else you will grow to dislike in short order.
Probably wouldn't dislike next coach if he wins and recruits well. Current regime does neither.

Louie stopped coaching in 92.
So you have disliked ST JOHN'S coaches for 26 years? I think it is time to root for someone else.
Nah unfortunately I don't have two degrees from any other universities so I'm stuck rooting for this team.  I'm not very hard to please though.  Thought the last guy was pretty successful. 20 win seasons,  4 star recruits, occasional tournament appearances and top 25 rankings is all I ask.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Aknel79 on April 18, 2018, 12:29:51 AM
Guys, Amar had 18 points vs #1 ranked Nova in 2016! If he were eligible a plethora of high major teams would totally be after him!
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: stjohnnie75 on April 20, 2018, 07:23:28 AM
Welcome to St. John’s
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2018, 07:37:53 AM
Eligible this year possible,  looks like that new rule should be pushed thru
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: tominsimsbury on April 20, 2018, 07:44:01 AM
Eligible this year possible,  looks like that new rule should be pushed thru

Boner time.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2018, 08:03:06 AM
Eligible this year possible,  looks like that new rule should be pushed thru

Which is what? GPA above 3 and can transfer freely?
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: MCNPA on April 20, 2018, 08:40:33 AM
Would be great if this happens.  Kid rebounds and shoots well. 
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: fordham96 on April 20, 2018, 09:26:56 AM
Eligible this year possible,  looks like that new rule should be pushed thru

Which is what? GPA above 3 and can transfer freely?

Don't get ahead of yourself, that rule change is not necessarily close to happening.
Title: Re: David Caraher - SF - Houston Baptist Transfer - ST. JOHN'S
Post by: Foad on April 20, 2018, 10:10:53 AM
Boner time.

Evidently there's a Home Alone marathon on Nickelodeon today.