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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: hnk on April 16, 2015, 11:17:15 AM

Title: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 16, 2015, 11:17:15 AM
Who would you rather have? Who do you think we get?

I think we get both.  If only one, I'd rather Diallo since it would send a better statement. ...even if we'll  only have him two years or so.



Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Poison on April 16, 2015, 11:36:46 AM
I want it all, and I want it now.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: redmen4life on April 16, 2015, 11:57:53 AM
i want both.  but i would be extremely happy with just getting Sampson.  we need someone to pick-up DLo offense. 
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: queensfinest on April 16, 2015, 11:58:57 AM
Haha you kind of bailed us out with the "both" there, no? Of course we all want both, and while Diallo would be the sexy choice I think Sampson has the ability to leave a bigger mark on the program. Getting a McDonald's all-american would be great but for some reason I have a really good feeling about Sampson.

Have to imagine Diallo is planning on being a one and done, and if Sima is as good as some people are saying we really have Obekpa back I think our short term and long term needs both say Sampson. Not an easy call though, hopefully we don't have to make it!
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Wods317 on April 16, 2015, 12:09:42 PM
Sampson for me is the choice of you get just one. I think if we get one we probably get the other. I think if Sampson commits and then we would have Obepka, Jordan, Williams, Sampson and Sima I think that would be very attractive to Diallo. That's jsut my two cents but I think we can get both but I would take Sampson because we need scoring and he's probably a guy who will be in school for 3 years as opposed to Diallo.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Tha Kid on April 16, 2015, 12:19:49 PM
Both of course, but if it's just one, I say Sampson.  We are pretty good with bigs next year, but we don't have a scorer like Sampson. 
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: TONYD3 on April 16, 2015, 12:20:14 PM
We need sampson. he seems like a 4 year stud.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2015, 12:30:10 PM
Both of course, but if it's just one, I say Sampson.  We are pretty good with bigs next year, but we don't have a scorer like Sampson. 

This. We need guards
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: MCNPA on April 16, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
Two men enter...no man leaves
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: mjdinkins on April 16, 2015, 12:58:34 PM
I'm greedy, in this instance, hnk.  Eff it!  Give me both!    :)
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2015, 01:03:09 PM
We are in good shape for both. 1 announcing soon. Was told we are in the lead for Tarrant also
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: prjohnnies on April 16, 2015, 01:05:50 PM
Guards - Sampson and Tarrant would be money.  Add those two with Sheed and possibly Doughty and we are talking.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: queensfinest on April 16, 2015, 01:10:55 PM
We are in good shape for both. 1 announcing soon. Was told we are in the lead for Tarrant also

Safe to say that's Sampson considering he cancelled a visit to SMU to meet with us this weekend?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Chilleb on April 16, 2015, 01:44:39 PM
How many ships do we have left??
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Spruces2 on April 16, 2015, 01:48:50 PM
We are in good shape for both. 1 announcing soon. Was told we are in the lead for Tarrant also

Sampson and Tarrant would be terrific. Diallo in addition would be amazing.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: stjohnnie75 on April 16, 2015, 01:53:38 PM
How many ships do we have left??

Right now one. Two if JDR didn't get a year of eligibility back. Could be more depending on roster moves.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: redstorm212 on April 16, 2015, 01:56:42 PM
I'd rather get Diallo. But think getting both is very possible.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: WillieG on April 16, 2015, 01:57:37 PM
We are in good shape for both. 1 announcing soon. Was told we are in the lead for Tarrant also
Are you the one with the great sources?  Please tell me you are.  Sampson and Tarrant!  Exactly who we need!  And with Tarrant , Diallo is much more likely to come because he wants to play with a good point guard, and the signings would generate great momentum and excitement, which is like a magnet in recruiting.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 16, 2015, 02:11:35 PM
Sampson, put that in the bank for 3-4 years and watch it develop. Diallo seems more likely to leave early, while also at a position with less of a lead. With that said I would be ecstatic if we get either.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: desco80 on April 16, 2015, 02:13:18 PM
Tarrant, Sampson, and Diallo make this a possible tournament team next season.
I didn't think that was even remotely possible, not in my wildest dreams.    But IF about 4 things go our way... that would be a very rotation with Tarrant, Rysheed, Sampson, Williams, Diallo, Obekpa.
VEry nice.

But I question why Tarrant would come if Rysheed and Sampson are both here.    Doubt very much that all 3 are on the same team.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Howie71 on April 16, 2015, 02:13:57 PM
Baldi's posts used to piss me off.  Now they make me happy.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 16, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
Baldi's posts used to piss me off.  Now they make me happy.

That's just the Mullin effect kicking in.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: paultzman on April 16, 2015, 02:27:18 PM
Sampson, because he is a likely three or four year contributor & in short term we also need guards who can score.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: mullin85berry86 on April 16, 2015, 02:57:20 PM
Just my hunch, they'll both commit on Monday.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: PIB on April 16, 2015, 03:03:17 PM
A buddy of mine is a die hard KU fan. He is doubtful that KU lands Diallo. In fact, he has heard that we are VERY much in it for him.

Seems like a Saint John's / UK battle.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: valgoth on April 16, 2015, 03:06:57 PM
whats been really eerie is poison and desco's happy disposition, its like there has been a tremor in the force.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: rdstr25 on April 16, 2015, 03:08:44 PM
A buddy of mine is a die hard KU fan. He is doubtful that KU lands Diallo. In fact, he has heard that we are VERY much in it for him.

Seems like a Saint John's / UK battle.

Funny you say that because the Kentucky guys seem to think its us and KU.  LOL
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: 0404 on April 16, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Venn Diagram
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: PIB on April 16, 2015, 05:06:28 PM
A buddy of mine is a die hard KU fan. He is doubtful that KU lands Diallo. In fact, he has heard that we are VERY much in it for him.

Seems like a Saint John's / UK battle.

Funny you say that because the Kentucky guys seem to think its us and KU.  LOL

Let's pray. LOL.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: ras on April 16, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
I read an article last night by SBNation and they think it's between us and ISU . Go figure.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: PIB on April 16, 2015, 07:30:23 PM
I read an article last night by SBNation and they think it's between us and ISU . Go figure.

LMAO, recruiting is very unpredictable, more so in college football.  However, CBB is no exception. Lots of phuckery.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Johnny4Life on April 16, 2015, 08:55:14 PM
Who is Tarrant?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: stjohnnie75 on April 16, 2015, 08:58:45 PM
Who is Tarrant?

Transfer from Alabama who transferred to Alabama from Tulane.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: upstate32 on April 16, 2015, 09:11:09 PM
Both is the easy answer...but right now the biggest need is in the back court so I would say Sampson.  Plus as others have mentioned, Sampson will likely be a 4 year contributor. 
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Poison on April 16, 2015, 09:32:35 PM
Both is the easy answer...but right now the biggest need is in the back court so I would say Sampson.  Plus as others have mentioned, Sampson will likely be a 4 year contributor. 

I think our biggest needs are equal if we're breLimg it down in terms of frontcourt and backcourt. We have one player in each court that we can count on, and even that is pretty ambitious considering the last two seasons.

This team needs offense. Jordan will score, but he's one guy. Obekpa will probably score a little, but unless he really works on his entire offensive game this summer, we really can't expect more than 8 or 9 points per game.

If you break it down by position, IMO, it looks like this now:

PG Jordan - 20 ppg
SG Doughty - 9.5 ppg
SF Alibegovic - 8 ppg
PF Williams - 11 ppg
Obekpa - 8 ppg

What we're hoping for is this:

Jordan 18 ppg
Sampson 13 ppg
Williams 9 ppg
Diallo 11 ppg
Obekpa 8 ppg
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2015, 09:35:18 PM
Both is the easy answer...but right now the biggest need is in the back court so I would say Sampson.  Plus as others have mentioned, Sampson will likely be a 4 year contributor. 

I think our biggest needs are equal if we're breLimg it down in terms of frontcourt and backcourt. We have one player in each court that we can count on, and even that is pretty ambitious considering the last two seasons.

This team needs offense. Jordan will score, but he's one guy. Obekpa will probably score a little, but unless he really works on his entire offensive game this summer, we really can't expect more than 8 or 9 points per game.

If you break it down by position, IMO, it looks like this now:

PG Jordan - 20 ppg
SG Doughty - 9.5 ppg
SF Alibegovic - 8 ppg
PF Williams - 11 ppg
Obekpa - 8 ppg

What we're hoping for is this:

Jordan 18 ppg
Sampson 13 ppg
Williams 9 ppg
Diallo 11 ppg
Obekpa 8 ppg

If we get Tarrant, maybe we start 3  guards. And run the shit out of the ball
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2015, 09:37:56 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: upstate32 on April 16, 2015, 09:49:36 PM
Both is the easy answer...but right now the biggest need is in the back court so I would say Sampson.  Plus as others have mentioned, Sampson will likely be a 4 year contributor. 

I think our biggest needs are equal if we're breLimg it down in terms of frontcourt and backcourt. We have one player in each court that we can count on, and even that is pretty ambitious considering the last two seasons.

This team needs offense. Jordan will score, but he's one guy. Obekpa will probably score a little, but unless he really works on his entire offensive game this summer, we really can't expect more than 8 or 9 points per game.

If you break it down by position, IMO, it looks like this now:

PG Jordan - 20 ppg
SG Doughty - 9.5 ppg
SF Alibegovic - 8 ppg
PF Williams - 11 ppg
Obekpa - 8 ppg

What we're hoping for is this:

Jordan 18 ppg
Sampson 13 ppg
Williams 9 ppg
Diallo 11 ppg
Obekpa 8 ppg

If we get Tarrant, maybe we start 3  guards. And run the shit out of the ball
If we get Tarrant (or a different legit PG) I would love to run a 3 guard line up with Williams at the 4 and CO or Diallo at the 5. 

I think with CO and Diallo on the court at the same time, that line up would struggle to score in the half court.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: francois arouet on April 16, 2015, 09:52:52 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

Do you know something about Tarrant?  He seems big on southern schools...
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2015, 09:54:11 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

Do you know something about Tarrant?  He seems big on southern schools...

Heard we were in good shape, nothing more. Just speculating
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 16, 2015, 09:55:15 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

Do you know something about Tarrant?  He seems big on southern schools...

Heard we were in good shape, nothing more. Just speculating
his bro Kevin went to Texas, right? :)
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: upstate32 on April 16, 2015, 09:55:28 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima
Any chance Myles Stewart sticks around?  I really liked him and was surprised he didn't see more minutes this year.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2015, 10:05:07 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima
Any chance Myles Stewart sticks around?  I really liked him and was surprised he didn't see more minutes this year.

I think he's in over his head. If he's getting minutes, going to be a long year imo
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 16, 2015, 10:06:38 PM
Sampson still projected for SJ's as of today .... bustingbrackets.com
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Dan on April 16, 2015, 10:30:33 PM
You take Diallo...everyone just assuming Sampson is a 3-4 year player, you don't know that.

You take the McDonald's All American...they need to start getting those type of players more often an establish it as a trend
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Mike on April 16, 2015, 10:56:08 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: francois arouet on April 16, 2015, 11:06:41 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima
Any chance Myles Stewart sticks around?  I really liked him and was surprised he didn't see more minutes this year.

I think he's in over his head. If he's getting minutes, going to be a long year imo


LOL.  So true.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 16, 2015, 11:19:44 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

Just position
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: shaun1345 on April 17, 2015, 12:03:18 AM
On a related note, 5 star c Stephen Zimmerman just committed to unlv.  Uk was thought to be in the running.  Although we've been hearing a lot of Kansas vs sju for diallo I think cal might start getting antsy and a desperate cal is a dangerous cal haha.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Poison on April 17, 2015, 12:18:21 AM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

He'll be a freshman. Let him come off the bench and earn a starting position. He plays like an all american, then he'll start.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: goredmen on April 17, 2015, 06:29:09 AM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

He'll be a freshman. Let him come off the bench and earn a starting position. He plays like an all american, then he'll start.

Tell him he won't start right away and then enjoy watching him in blue in the middle of Kansas or Kentucky
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 17, 2015, 06:31:58 AM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

He'll be a freshman. Let him come off the bench and earn a starting position. He plays like an all american, then he'll start.

Tell him he won't start right away and then enjoy watching him in blue in the middle of Kansas or Kentucky
Cal or Self don't guarantee anything. It's a given he will play major minutes anywhere someway, somehow.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Poison on April 17, 2015, 07:45:36 AM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

He'll be a freshman. Let him come off the bench and earn a starting position. He plays like an all american, then he'll start.

Tell him he won't start right away and then enjoy watching him in blue in the middle of Kansas or Kentucky

The coach is in charge. Not the child. No reason to tell him anything of the sort.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: goredmen on April 17, 2015, 08:42:12 AM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

He'll be a freshman. Let him come off the bench and earn a starting position. He plays like an all american, then he'll start.

Tell him he won't start right away and then enjoy watching him in blue in the middle of Kansas or Kentucky

The coach is in charge. Not the child. No reason to tell him anything of the sort.

That's fine. but if you do that he won't come here over Kansas or Kentucky. You would just have to realize and accept that
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Wods317 on April 17, 2015, 08:47:25 AM
Mullin isn't going to tell him he isn't starting, that's ridiculous. He may not tell him he will start either but there's no way he won't start in he comes here. He will be the highest rated recruit we have had in a long time and a New York kid. He may not guarantee him a starting spot but he will definitely not tell him he won't be starting, that would be make no sense. Anywhere this guy goes he will start.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Johnny23 on April 17, 2015, 08:50:34 AM
To think that you don't need to stroke these kids egos is being naive at best. That's the state of the game today. SJU is not Kentucky, nor is it Kansas. We all want it to be but we're not anywhere near their level yet. Giving a star recruit the hope of big minutes is all part of the process. Of course he's got to earn those minutes. But you better believe that the coaches are selling him on those big minutes also.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: shamsman2 on April 17, 2015, 08:57:08 AM
To think that you don't need to stroke these kids egos is being naive at best. That's the state of the game today. SJU is not Kentucky, nor is it Kansas. We all want it to be but we're not anywhere near their level yet. Giving a star recruit the hope of big minutes is all part of the process. Of course he's got to earn those minutes. But you better believe that the coaches are selling him on those big minutes also.


Am curious has anyone here actually created someone or is this pure speculation as to what a coach should say?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Tha Kid on April 17, 2015, 08:59:46 AM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

He'll be a freshman. Let him come off the bench and earn a starting position. He plays like an all american, then he'll start.

So sophomore and juco transfer Darien williams should automatically start over freshman and mcd aa MVP in year one...just because diallos younger?

Mullin should hire you.  I am sure w your strategies you'd have a pipeline of mcd aas dying to come here knowing they'll be completely nh off the bench...
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: desco80 on April 17, 2015, 09:31:02 AM
To think that you don't need to stroke these kids egos is being naive at best. That's the state of the game today. SJU is not Kentucky, nor is it Kansas. We all want it to be but we're not anywhere near their level yet. Giving a star recruit the hope of big minutes is all part of the process. Of course he's got to earn those minutes. But you better believe that the coaches are selling him on those big minutes also.


Am curious has anyone here actually created someone or is this pure speculation as to what a coach should say?

Now when you say "create" do you mean old testament, Genesis, creating mankind?  Or do you mean creating like with Mr potato head?
Because I tried to make a team of basketball players once out of play - dough, but the dog ate them. 
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 19, 2015, 09:50:21 AM
My usual talkative sources on Diallo are silent......wondering how meeting went?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: shamsman2 on April 19, 2015, 09:59:43 AM
To think that you don't need to stroke these kids egos is being naive at best. That's the state of the game today. SJU is not Kentucky, nor is it Kansas. We all want it to be but we're not anywhere near their level yet. Giving a star recruit the hope of big minutes is all part of the process. Of course he's got to earn those minutes. But you better believe that the coaches are selling him on those big minutes also.


Am curious has anyone here actually created someone or is this pure speculation as to what a coach should say?

Now when you say "create" do you mean old testament, Genesis, creating mankind?  Or do you mean creating like with Mr potato head?
Because I tried to make a team of basketball players once out of play - dough, but the dog ate them. 

I meant recruit, instead of "create".
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: paultzman on April 19, 2015, 10:06:36 AM
My usual talkative sources on Diallo are silent......wondering how meeting went?

I assume your sources include Cheick's advisor. If not, you are missing the key ingredient in this process.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 19, 2015, 10:09:27 AM
Who do you mean by his advisor?  You can PM if you'd prefer.  I still think no one speaks for Cheick, but Cheick. Do you know who was at the meeting?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: paultzman on April 19, 2015, 10:30:53 AM
Who do you mean by his advisor?  You can PM if you'd prefer.  I still think no one speaks for Cheick, but Cheick. Do you know who was at the meeting?

If you minimize the influence of his advisor you are wrong. Leave it at that & yes I do know who that is.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 19, 2015, 10:37:11 AM
Who?   Or just say u r unwilling to disclose.  I am not minimizing anything.  I think you make a mistake minimizing Cheick and his fortitude. But to each his own,

By the way, i admit i have zero idea at this moment what he will decide....what the tipping factors will be and who will influence him.  And when he will decide?

I just hope.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: paultzman on April 19, 2015, 10:43:57 AM
Who?   Or just say u r unwilling to disclose.  I am not minimizing anything.  I think you make a mistake minimizing Cheick and his fortitude. But to each his own,

By the way, i admit i have zero idea at this moment what he will decide....what the tipping factors will be and who will influence him.  And when he will decide?

I just hope.

I'm not giving you a name, but accept that recruitment of many of kids from Africa include guardians and advisors, many with fine intentions. Obekpa recruitment was led by OSNA, but this isn't. I have chatted with this individual a few times about work he does with kids in his native country. I have no interest in making things up & merely asked if your "sources" included his advisor. Apparently I touched a nerve. Sorry, perhaps we should move on.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 19, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
Ok, now, I know who you are speaking about.  That's what I would have guessed. I don't talk to him personally, but do talk to people who do talk to him.  He has influence....not what it was three years ago. Didn't touch any nerve......just think you don't really get Diallo.

I still don't have any idea what he'll do......I guess you do from his advisor.  We'll see.

Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 19, 2015, 12:00:35 PM
Who?   Or just say u r unwilling to disclose.  I am not minimizing anything.  I think you make a mistake minimizing Cheick and his fortitude. But to each his own,

By the way, i admit i have zero idea at this moment what he will decide....what the tipping factors will be and who will influence him.  And when he will decide?

I just hope.

I'm not giving you a name, but accept that recruitment of many of kids from Africa include guardians and advisors, many with fine intentions. Obekpa recruitment was led by OSNA, but this isn't. I have chatted with this individual a few times about work he does with kids in his native country. I have no interest in making things up & merely asked if your "sources" included his advisor. Apparently I touched a nerve. Sorry, perhaps we should move on.
So true.   The only one I ever heard from the horse's mouth was the Simplice Njoya recruitment.  My cousin coached him his senior year, and he was about the 10th rated center in the country.  My cousin said Dougherty and others offered him, but he went with the AC at UNLV because the advisor was friends with him.  When the AC ended up going to Duquesne, the advisor pushed him there despite all the good offers (Michigan, GT, UNC, etc) he originally had. Ironically, Cal wound up with him at Memphis after he transferred after his soph season.  My cousin said it was crazy how this advisor gave him bad advice based upon their personal interest.


Thus,


Advisor = Good Advice/Bad Advice just like any other person.  Problem is their agenda just like any other person too.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Poison on April 19, 2015, 12:03:42 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

He'll be a freshman. Let him come off the bench and earn a starting position. He plays like an all american, then he'll start.

So sophomore and juco transfer Darien williams should automatically start over freshman and mcd aa MVP in year one...just because diallos younger?

Mullin should hire you.  I am sure w your strategies you'd have a pipeline of mcd aas dying to come here knowing they'll be completely nh off the bench...

If Diallo is Okafor, sure let him start, but we've had bad experiences w treating NYers like Gods. I'd like that to stop.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 19, 2015, 12:07:31 PM
PG-Tarrant, Doughty
SG-Sampson, Felix
G-Jordan
PF-Williams, Diallo, Amar
C-Obekpa, Sima

You are not putting Diallo as a backup are you? I can't see that happening if he came here.

He'll be a freshman. Let him come off the bench and earn a starting position. He plays like an all american, then he'll start.

So sophomore and juco transfer Darien williams should automatically start over freshman and mcd aa MVP in year one...just because diallos younger?

Mullin should hire you.  I am sure w your strategies you'd have a pipeline of mcd aas dying to come here knowing they'll be completely nh off the bench...

If Diallo is Okafor, sure let him start, but we've had bad experiences w treating NYers like Gods. I'd like that to stop.
Maybe CO, Williams and Diallo all start - lol.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 19, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
Diallo is more of a complete player than Obekpa. A much better motor too. He sneaks up in the box score and will 10 points off 6 shots before a half all off put backs and hustle.

Obekpa is a better shot blocker and has a better midrange shot which isn't saying much.

I'd love to see them play on the floor together. I think Diallo would push Obekpa and vice versa.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 19, 2015, 12:52:11 PM
Diallo is more of a complete player than Obekpa. A much better motor too. He sneaks up in the box score and will 10 points off 6 shots before a half all off put backs and hustle.

Obekpa is a better shot blocker and has a better midrange shot which isn't saying much.

I'd love to see them play on the floor together. I think Diallo would push Obekpa and vice versa.

You think it would work well enough offensively to use for big stretches?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: simplyred on April 19, 2015, 01:09:14 PM
Diallo is more of a complete player than Obekpa. A much better motor too. He sneaks up in the box score and will 10 points off 6 shots before a half all off put backs and hustle.

Obekpa is a better shot blocker and has a better midrange shot which isn't saying much.

I'd love to see them play on the floor together. I think Diallo would push Obekpa and vice versa.

You think it would work well enough offensively to use for big stretches?

Diallo is not an offensive liability at the 4.  He and CO would be a fine together.  With good shooters at the 1-3 spots, we would have a great team on the floor.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 19, 2015, 01:20:40 PM
Diallo is more of a complete player than Obekpa. A much better motor too. He sneaks up in the box score and will 10 points off 6 shots before a half all off put backs and hustle.

Obekpa is a better shot blocker and has a better midrange shot which isn't saying much.

I'd love to see them play on the floor together. I think Diallo would push Obekpa and vice versa.

You think it would work well enough offensively to use for big stretches?

It depends who the guards are. They are the ones getting majority of the shots and both CO/CD are great passers out of the post.

Additionally I think defensive rebounding would see significant boost and allow this team to get out and run. Diallo is best big in the country running rim to rim.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Foad on April 19, 2015, 02:53:59 PM
CO [...] great passers out of the post.

16 assists in 819 minutes.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: zimzimma16 on April 19, 2015, 03:31:01 PM
Diallo remind anyone of jefferson of duke or kid gilchrist of kentucky? 
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Johnny23 on April 19, 2015, 03:38:12 PM
Yes a longer and more physical Kidd Gilchrist.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: stjohnnie75 on April 20, 2015, 12:26:38 AM
Looks like none of the above. Top '16 class will be a must get.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Aknel79 on April 20, 2015, 12:46:49 AM
would you rather have obekpa and diallo on the floor or obekpa and amar.....i mean come on
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: boo3 on April 20, 2015, 12:58:18 AM
How about neither?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 20, 2015, 01:32:01 AM
Diallo remind anyone of jefferson of duke or kid gilchrist of kentucky? 

huh? no and no.

More like Serge Ibaka or a little bit of Kennth Farried.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: valgoth on April 20, 2015, 07:39:50 AM
anyone with ken farried's rebounding motor would be an amazing get
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: stjohnnie75 on April 20, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
We are in good shape for both. 1 announcing soon. Was told we are in the lead for Tarrant also

You jinx!
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: boo3 on April 20, 2015, 02:40:46 PM
Order has been restored
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2015, 02:42:18 PM
We are in good shape for both. 1 announcing soon. Was told we are in the lead for Tarrant also

You jinx!

Haha. Things obviously changed.  Not the end of the world. You'll see
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: stjohnnie75 on April 20, 2015, 02:44:21 PM
We are in good shape for both. 1 announcing soon. Was told we are in the lead for Tarrant also

You jinx!

Haha. Things obviously changed.  Not the end of the world. You'll see

Yup, just busting your balls a bit.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2015, 02:48:46 PM
We are in good shape for both. 1 announcing soon. Was told we are in the lead for Tarrant also

You jinx!

Haha. Things obviously changed.  Not the end of the world. You'll see

Yup, just busting your balls a bit.

All good. I expect some announcements soon
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 20, 2015, 02:59:39 PM
Is Mullin coming? Ooops got that wrong too.  Pittino? Ooooops.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2015, 03:00:51 PM
Is Mullin coming? Ooops got that wrong too.  Pittino? Ooooops.

How'd  that extension work out?  Get off the ledge homeboy
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: we are sju on April 20, 2015, 03:03:34 PM
Should we change title to include or neither?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 20, 2015, 03:05:20 PM
Just sayin".......don't know how it would've worked out, but at this moment we'd have a great back court. 

I'm very happy with new team, but I don't think Coach Lavin was treated fairly by the university or by you.

 And I don't think what you post is reliable....or you make clear what's your hope vs. your opinion vs. fact. vs. fantasy.  That's all.

No worries all is good.

What's a homeboy? Please don't make me go look it up in some dictionary of idiot's language.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 20, 2015, 03:06:01 PM
Can we wait to change the title until he announces?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2015, 03:11:10 PM
Just sayin".......don't know how it would've worked out, but at this moment we'd have a great back court. 

I'm very happy with new team, but I don't think Coach Lavin was treated fairly by the university or by you.

 And I don't think what you post is reliable....or you make clear what's your hope vs. your opinion vs. fact. vs. fantasy.  That's all.

No worries all is good.

What's a homeboy? Please don't make me go look it up in some dictionary of idiot's language.


Lavin was lucky he was able to coach his seniors. Homeboy would have been canned last year had it not been for the president transition?

Aren't you supposed to be on hiatus?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Spruces2 on April 20, 2015, 03:13:03 PM
Just sayin".......don't know how it would've worked out, but at this moment we'd have a great back court. 

I'm very happy with new team, but I don't think Coach Lavin was treated fairly by the university or by you.

 And I don't think what you post is reliable....or you make clear what's your hope vs. your opinion vs. fact. vs. fantasy.  That's all.

No worries all is good.

What's a homeboy? Please don't make me go look it up in some dictionary of idiot's language.

You might be on to something:
"And I don't think what you post is reliable....or you make clear what's your hope vs. your opinion vs. fact. vs. fantasy.  That's all."

I "hope" Baldi is right about the good news coming. Still think we are in much better shape long term than a few months ago.

Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 20, 2015, 03:14:03 PM
What's a homeboy/  What a hiatus?  Though i would like one from your misinformation.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2015, 03:19:02 PM
What's a homeboy/  What a hiatus?  Though i would like one from your misinformation.

How soon you forget. It's ok, I enjoy owning you,  which is why I didn't pursue yours and boo bet
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: erickthered on April 20, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2015, 03:27:16 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.

Great post
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: TONYD3 on April 20, 2015, 03:33:35 PM
U can be happy Mullin is here and not bash Lavin at every opportunity. Mullin is here because Lavin did a good job. Mullin didn't come 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: boo3 on April 20, 2015, 03:42:38 PM
What's a homeboy/  What a hiatus?  Though i would like one from your misinformation.

How soon you forget. It's ok, I enjoy owning you,  which is why I didn't pursue yours and boo bet

 I've "known" you a long time Baldi..   Lets be real.. the Lavin thing was the first thing you got right in about 3 years ( after crying wolf on his firing 2-3x previously)....   Nostradamus, you are not.


We are in much better spot now.. Thats not the argument.. Doesn't mean we don't get to bitch and moan when we continue to lose out on the big fish.    Lets hope Mussini comes aboard.  Mussini, Williams, Sima is a nice little haul, all things considered.   We need to sign another guard, badly.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: sjulaw1991 on April 20, 2015, 03:42:47 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.

Great post
Also add legit shot at Herron (sp ?) '16
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2015, 03:51:01 PM
What's a homeboy/  What a hiatus?  Though i would like one from your misinformation.

How soon you forget. It's ok, I enjoy owning you,  which is why I didn't pursue yours and boo bet

 I've "known" you a long time Baldi..   Lets be real.. the Lavin thing was the first thing you got right in about 3 years ( after crying wolf on his firing 2-3x previously)....   Nostradamus, you are not.


We are in much better spot now.. Thats not the argument.. Doesn't mean we don't get to bitch and moan when we continue to lose out on the big fish.    Lets hope Mussini comes aboard.  Mussini, Williams, Sima is a nice little haul, all things considered.   We need to sign another guard, badly.

I can't argue with that. But I will. Just because it wasn't tweeted  by our great local media doesn't mean  it didn't happen. I've been contacted on the side by some who I respect saying "holy shit, I can't believe you posted that". But of course, I've been wrong, who hasn't?  That's what great about a message board, we can explore a lot of possibilities
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: desco80 on April 20, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
U can be happy Mullin is here and not bash Lavin at every opportunity. Mullin is here because Lavin did a good job. Mullin didn't come 5 years ago.

Why is bashing Lavin a bad thing?     Some of us think he deserves it
I get that some people don't want to read about it in every thread, but that's not what is going on.   I think most posters have been pretty constrained. 

Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: erickthered on April 20, 2015, 03:59:37 PM
Just to be clear i liked Lavin and would only take Mullin over him from the realistic options that were in play. I know he gets bashed a lot but i appreciate what he did here.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: hnk on April 20, 2015, 04:03:43 PM
Hey homeboy....me too.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: valgoth on April 20, 2015, 06:04:43 PM
U can be happy Mullin is here and not bash Lavin at every opportunity. Mullin is here because Lavin did a good job. Mullin didn't come 5 years ago.

Why is bashing Lavin a bad thing?     Some of us think he deserves it
I get that some people don't want to read about it in every thread, but that's not what is going on.   I think most posters have been pretty constrained. 


seriously i like lavin , but if he was here our roster would be NAIA next season
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: WillieG on April 20, 2015, 06:37:01 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 20, 2015, 06:40:27 PM
Hillarious
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 20, 2015, 06:40:43 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: WillieG on April 20, 2015, 06:58:53 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: 96 Schermerhorn Street on April 20, 2015, 07:01:44 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: boo3 on April 20, 2015, 07:09:14 PM
 Do great christian men cheat on their wives with hookers?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: WillieG on April 20, 2015, 07:23:47 PM
Do great christian men cheat on their wives with hookers?
What?  Did Mark cheat on his wife with a hooker?  I'd imagine some christians do.  I'm not very religious myself, in fact I'm agnostic, but just because you are Christian doesn't mean you are without sin.  That's not the point.  I don't think I remember hearing Mark did that.  In fact I doubt it's true.  But if it is true, remember, Rick Pitino is still doing pretty well in recruiting, even though he is still playing second fiddle to the school in Lexington.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 20, 2015, 07:29:05 PM
Do great christian men cheat on their wives with hookers?
What?  Did Mark cheat on his wife with a hooker?  I'd imagine some christians do.  I'm not very religious myself, in fact I'm agnostic, but just because you are Christian doesn't mean you are without sin.  That's not the point.  I don't think I remember hearing Mark did that.  In fact I doubt it's true.  But if it is true, remember, Rick Pitino is still doing pretty well in recruiting, even though he is still playing second fiddle to the school in Lexington.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8108107/golden-state-warriors-mark-jackson-target-extortion-scheme


I think if Jackson wanted to coach college, which he apparently does not, that opposing coaches might slip that in if he was pushing the good Christian angle.  Not judging, just surmising what opposing coaches might do.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: WillieG on April 20, 2015, 10:07:12 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Just read the article in the link.  So that's what you were talking about  with "one of those pictures"  That's incredible.  That's messed up.  There's incredible evil in this world bros.  She was probably acting like she didn't want to do it but he talked her into it.  He's a fake man of god? Like I said above, just because you are Christian, does not mean you are without sin. Especially in Protestantism. Martin Luther said we are saved by faith alone.  This is what the Protestants believe.  Pitino does just fine in recruiting though.  People don't hold what he did against him.  It's really between him and his wife.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 20, 2015, 11:53:12 PM
And what boosters do is between them and the players
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Marillac on April 22, 2015, 12:36:48 AM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Just read the article in the link.  So that's what you were talking about  with "one of those pictures"  That's incredible.  That's messed up.  There's incredible evil in this world bros.  She was probably acting like she didn't want to do it but he talked her into it.  He's a fake man of god? Like I said above, just because you are Christian, does not mean you are without sin. Especially in Protestantism. Martin Luther said we are saved by faith alone.  This is what the Protestants believe.  Pitino does just fine in recruiting though.  People don't hold what he did against him.  It's really between him and his wife.

Your posts make me want to vomit.  Can you join another site to talk about this crap?  Jesus  (small pun intended).
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: WillieG on April 22, 2015, 10:12:18 AM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Just read the article in the link.  So that's what you were talking about  with "one of those pictures"  That's incredible.  That's messed up.  There's incredible evil in this world bros.  She was probably acting like she didn't want to do it but he talked her into it.  He's a fake man of god? Like I said above, just because you are Christian, does not mean you are without sin. Especially in Protestantism. Martin Luther said we are saved by faith alone.  This is what the Protestants believe.  Pitino does just fine in recruiting though.  People don't hold what he did against him.  It's really between him and his wife.

Your posts make me want to vomit.  Can you join another site to talk about this crap?  Jesus  (small pun intended).
Hey, I didn't bring it up.  Read what I wrote.  All I said is that Jackson would make a good college coach.  Other people brought up what happened with him.  And I also said no christian is without sin.  If that makes you vomit then you better see a doctor.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 22, 2015, 11:39:00 AM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Just read the article in the link.  So that's what you were talking about  with "one of those pictures"  That's incredible.  That's messed up.  There's incredible evil in this world bros.  She was probably acting like she didn't want to do it but he talked her into it.  He's a fake man of god? Like I said above, just because you are Christian, does not mean you are without sin. Especially in Protestantism. Martin Luther said we are saved by faith alone.  This is what the Protestants believe.  Pitino does just fine in recruiting though.  People don't hold what he did against him.  It's really between him and his wife.

Your posts make me want to vomit.  Can you join another site to talk about this crap?  Jesus  (small pun intended).
Hey, I didn't bring it up.  Read what I wrote.  All I said is that Jackson would make a good college coach.  Other people brought up what happened with him.  And I also said no christian is without sin.  If that makes you vomit then you better see a doctor.
You stated he could play up the Christian minister angle.  It was pointed out if he did that, the sordid details of the affair/extortion plot would be brought up by opposing coaches. You can't have it both ways of the discussion.  He would be better served to keep any talk about basketball. 
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: WillieG on April 23, 2015, 11:13:24 AM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Just read the article in the link.  So that's what you were talking about  with "one of those pictures"  That's incredible.  That's messed up.  There's incredible evil in this world bros.  She was probably acting like she didn't want to do it but he talked her into it.  He's a fake man of god? Like I said above, just because you are Christian, does not mean you are without sin. Especially in Protestantism. Martin Luther said we are saved by faith alone.  This is what the Protestants believe.  Pitino does just fine in recruiting though.  People don't hold what he did against him.  It's really between him and his wife.

Your posts make me want to vomit.  Can you join another site to talk about this crap?  Jesus  (small pun intended).
Hey, I didn't bring it up.  Read what I wrote.  All I said is that Jackson would make a good college coach.  Other people brought up what happened with him.  And I also said no christian is without sin.  If that makes you vomit then you better see a doctor.
You stated he could play up the Christian minister angle.  It was pointed out if he did that, the sordid details of the affair/extortion plot would be brought up by opposing coaches. You can't have it both ways of the discussion.  He would be better served to keep any talk about basketball.
Hey Bball, I didn't know about the "sordid affair" and I DID NOT BRING IT UP!  When I finally read the links I said "no christian is without sin". That shouldn't make you puke. I was objecting to him saying the posts make him puke, but I didn't post anything about the affair; others did.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 23, 2015, 11:39:25 AM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Just read the article in the link.  So that's what you were talking about  with "one of those pictures"  That's incredible.  That's messed up.  There's incredible evil in this world bros.  She was probably acting like she didn't want to do it but he talked her into it.  He's a fake man of god? Like I said above, just because you are Christian, does not mean you are without sin. Especially in Protestantism. Martin Luther said we are saved by faith alone.  This is what the Protestants believe.  Pitino does just fine in recruiting though.  People don't hold what he did against him.  It's really between him and his wife.

Your posts make me want to vomit.  Can you join another site to talk about this crap?  Jesus  (small pun intended).
Hey, I didn't bring it up.  Read what I wrote.  All I said is that Jackson would make a good college coach.  Other people brought up what happened with him.  And I also said no christian is without sin.  If that makes you vomit then you better see a doctor.
You stated he could play up the Christian minister angle.  It was pointed out if he did that, the sordid details of the affair/extortion plot would be brought up by opposing coaches. You can't have it both ways of the discussion.  He would be better served to keep any talk about basketball.
Hey Bball, I didn't know about the "sordid affair" and I DID NOT BRING IT UP!  When I finally read the links I said "no christian is without sin". That shouldn't make you puke. I was objecting to him saying the posts make him puke, but I didn't post anything about the affair; others did.
I was only referring to your comment about how Jackson could recruit the mom's with the Christian minister angle. My first thought after the affair was brought up was he might be recruiting them for something else. Then, I thought this all should end as he probably will never coach at the Alma mater
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: WillieG on April 23, 2015, 03:10:07 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Just read the article in the link.  So that's what you were talking about  with "one of those pictures"  That's incredible.  That's messed up.  There's incredible evil in this world bros.  She was probably acting like she didn't want to do it but he talked her into it.  He's a fake man of god? Like I said above, just because you are Christian, does not mean you are without sin. Especially in Protestantism. Martin Luther said we are saved by faith alone.  This is what the Protestants believe.  Pitino does just fine in recruiting though.  People don't hold what he did against him.  It's really between him and his wife.

Your posts make me want to vomit.  Can you join another site to talk about this crap?  Jesus  (small pun intended).
Hey, I didn't bring it up.  Read what I wrote.  All I said is that Jackson would make a good college coach.  Other people brought up what happened with him.  And I also said no christian is without sin.  If that makes you vomit then you better see a doctor.
You stated he could play up the Christian minister angle.  It was pointed out if he did that, the sordid details of the affair/extortion plot would be brought up by opposing coaches. You can't have it both ways of the discussion.  He would be better served to keep any talk about basketball.
Hey Bball, I didn't know about the "sordid affair" and I DID NOT BRING IT UP!  When I finally read the links I said "no christian is without sin". That shouldn't make you puke. I was objecting to him saying the posts make him puke, but I didn't post anything about the affair; others did.
I was only referring to your comment about how Jackson could recruit the mom's with the Christian minister. My first thought after the affair was brought up was he might be recruiting them for something else. Then, I thought this all should end as he probably will never coach at the Alma mater
I know, bball, but at the time I posted about him coaching at SJU, did I know about the affair?  No, I didn't.  So I'm not trying to have it both ways, I just was not aware of the affair at the time of the initial posting.  And then I responded to Marillac's unfair posting about  him puking.  Say the guys who mentioned it in such an explicit way make you puke.  Not me.

But if I was aware initially of the  affair, I would not have said that Jackson could have been hired before CM.
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 23, 2015, 06:49:00 PM
Simple, would we rather have Lavin and Sampson or Mullin, Slice, Matty, Sima, Williams, Owens(16) and budding relationship with Rawle? I know i which one i would choose.
I think I'd take Sampson plus whoever else Lavin would bring in, instead of Sima and Williams.  Sima is only a three star.  And Owens is good but Lavin could have brought in someone like him easily.  51st rated juco; not a big deal.  Sampson is a big deal two and done recruit. Very hard to get guys like that.  Then release Lavin and bring in Mullin.

The truth with Mullin is he saw the writing on the wall in Sacramento.  He was on the outs with the owner who wanted him to coach the team.  He was reassigned and saw the writing on the wall.  Basically, he was run out of there. Louie has always wanted his boy in there and he may lack for objectivity here.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Mullin, but  I would have preferred that they waited a year so Lavin could recruit.  Then he'd have a more talented roster to coach.

Mark Jackson's also out there.  He has experience, a real coaches personality, and he is a minister with his own church and congregation.  If you read Boeheim's  book "Bleeding Orange" he  says you recruit the mothers.  Who better to recruit the mothers of  high school basketball players then a Protestant Christian preacher man?  Who also happens to be a top basketball alumnus and the second leading assist man in NBA history!
Plus - unfair advantage - Boeheim even had Bernie Fine's wife recruiting for a while
Fine's wife?  I don't get the joke.  It doesn't fit with what I posted.  The fact is that these mothers would love Mark Jackson.  And you might think it's hilarious Baldi but how can you not think it's true.  African Americans are the most church going ethnicity in a churchgoing country.  They take their Christian faith very seriously.  The fact is that the mothers would love him.  That's who I want recruiting. Why did the NFL players have such an affinity for Tebow?  A big part of it was his strong faith.  I'm telling you, it goes over well with African Americans if it is genuine.  Well Mark is so genuine about it that he has thousands of followers in his congregation.  Plus you can't deny the fact that he has a coach's personality.

I don't mind at all if you disagree, but you have to say why.  No one word response and no personal attacks.
Mark could send them one of those pictures
Just read the article in the link.  So that's what you were talking about  with "one of those pictures"  That's incredible.  That's messed up.  There's incredible evil in this world bros.  She was probably acting like she didn't want to do it but he talked her into it.  He's a fake man of god? Like I said above, just because you are Christian, does not mean you are without sin. Especially in Protestantism. Martin Luther said we are saved by faith alone.  This is what the Protestants believe.  Pitino does just fine in recruiting though.  People don't hold what he did against him.  It's really between him and his wife.

Your posts make me want to vomit.  Can you join another site to talk about this crap?  Jesus  (small pun intended).
Hey, I didn't bring it up.  Read what I wrote.  All I said is that Jackson would make a good college coach.  Other people brought up what happened with him.  And I also said no christian is without sin.  If that makes you vomit then you better see a doctor.
You stated he could play up the Christian minister angle.  It was pointed out if he did that, the sordid details of the affair/extortion plot would be brought up by opposing coaches. You can't have it both ways of the discussion.  He would be better served to keep any talk about basketball.
Hey Bball, I didn't know about the "sordid affair" and I DID NOT BRING IT UP!  When I finally read the links I said "no christian is without sin". That shouldn't make you puke. I was objecting to him saying the posts make him puke, but I didn't post anything about the affair; others did.
I was only referring to your comment about how Jackson could recruit the mom's with the Christian minister. My first thought after the affair was brought up was he might be recruiting them for something else. Then, I thought this all should end as he probably will never coach at the Alma mater
I know, bball, but at the time I posted about him coaching at SJU, did I know about the affair?  No, I didn't.  So I'm not trying to have it both ways, I just was not aware of the affair at the time of the initial posting.  And then I responded to Marillac's unfair posting about  him puking.  Say the guys who mentioned it in such an explicit way make you puke.  Not me.

But if I was aware initially of the  affair, I would not have said that Jackson could have been hired before CM.
True - now I see the timeline you were talking about - makes sense
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: TQ on April 28, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
Guess we will settle for neither.. Diallo to Kansas
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on April 28, 2015, 10:01:58 PM
Kansas wins the sweepstakes
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Moose on April 29, 2015, 04:02:43 PM
Where is HNK?
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: Tha Kid on April 29, 2015, 04:06:24 PM
Where is HNK?

Kansas
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: bball purist on April 30, 2015, 04:38:32 PM
Where is HNK?

Kansas
He's going to slip in a SJ's NLI for Cheick to sign - lol
Title: Re: Diallo or Sampson or Both?
Post by: redslope on April 30, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
I guess the answer to the question posed by this topic is Both :)