6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2014 Class => Topic started by: fordham96 on April 09, 2014, 08:01:14 PM
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http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=6289439 (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=6289439)
Joe Henricksen @joehoopsreport · 4h
Orr senior big man Marlon Jones with scheduled visits (in order) in the coming weeks to St. John's, Tulane and Loyola
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/4/9/5599250/st-johns-2014-recruiting-johnnies-forward-marlon-jones-orr-high (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/4/9/5599250/st-johns-2014-recruiting-johnnies-forward-marlon-jones-orr-high)
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6'9" forward from Orr high school visiting soon. Very athletic kid with good hands. Videos look good.
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His videos look really good. Very active hands and rebounder. Reminds me of a poor man's Lance Thomas a bit.
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http://youtu.be/jEznLI2gH1I (http://youtu.be/jEznLI2gH1I)
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He's definitely an upgrade from Obekpa
At free throw shooting
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His videos look really good. Very active hands and rebounder. Reminds me of a poor man's Lance Thomas a bit.
Maybe. He's too thin for a 6'9 PF but I like the tenacity and touch with which he plays under the basket (again, based solely on the youtube clip), however, it will be much tougher on him when he's banging up against 6'9, 240lbs kids of the BE. I'd take him.
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Usually when a kid is a sleeper and no high major schools have offered, there's a reason
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Usually when a kid is a sleeper and no high major schools have offered, there's a reason
Generally, I agree. But then you watch the NCAA tourney, and every year there are a handful of kids that were not heavily recruited by top-flight schools that step up and lead their team to clutch victories. This year's prime example was Frank Kaminsky. Why the hell can't we find a diamond in the rough for a change???
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Usually when a kid is a sleeper and no high major schools have offered, there's a reason
Generally, I agree. But then you watch the NCAA tourney, and every year there are a handful of kids that were not heavily recruited by top-flight schools that step up and lead their team to clutch victories. This year's prime example was Frank Kaminsky. Why the hell can't we find a diamond in the rough for a change???
We did in Hardy. That was probably the last one.
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Need to have a coach that can bring that out of a kid.
Do we have that?
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Fighting with Tulane and Loyola for a recruit?
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Fighting with Tulane and Loyola for a recruit?
It's ok to go after low rated recruits once in a while. Especially when you are desperate.
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Which returns us back to the elephant in the room.
Why are we desperate? Because Lavin and his coaching staff decided to take the 2014 recruiting class off.
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Which returns us back to the elephant in the room.
Why are we desperate? Because Lavin and his coaching staff decided to take the 2014 recruiting class off.
They did?
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Need to have a coach that can bring that out of a kid.
Do we have that?
Well, if you're going to split hairs...not that I'm aware of.
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i'd sign him - seems like a high energy kid who can be a good role player
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Hey, Uconn just won a national championship without a front court player I've ever heard of out of high school except Daniels and late pickup Nolan. I don't know how much this kid can give us, but he looks like he boxes out, gets vertical for rebounds and is long and active. Beggars can't be choosers but if we land Thomas in addition to this kid and Delarosa, out rebounding will be a bit better than it has.
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I just hope we can find players that play hard for 40 minutes and have heart in big situations.
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This kid apparently had recruitment fall off due to foot injury but it has come on lately. Just had. 24/14 game 2 days ago. Looks like a good fit. With jones and Thomas, not sure what we would have but it seems these kids are a bit tougher rebounders than we've had. I like how he has a jumpshot out to 15' or so. We desperately need all these guys like Delarosa, Jones and Thomas.
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This kid apparently had recruitment fall off due to foot injury but it has come on lately. Just had. 24/14 game 2 days ago. Looks like a good fit. With jones and Thomas, not sure what we would have but it seems these kids are a bit tougher rebounders than we've had. I like how he has a jumpshot out to 15' or so. We desperately need all these guys like Delarosa, Jones and Thomas.
If we sign up say, four to five aggressive hard nosed rebounders this offseason - and two them stick, in the sense that two of them are net positives when they are on the floor, maybe that can be enough if our guard play is consistent enough next year. Maybe that'll be enough... that's a big maybe, but that's the best we can hope for at this point.
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But as first year players and freshman will they have a clue on defense or always be out of position and we get killed inside. Realize there are no other options and agree about the rebounding because lord knows we will miss a lot of shots. We could use a wing that could actually shoot.
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But as first year players and freshman will they have a clue on defense or always be out of position and we get killed inside. Realize there are no other options and agree about the rebounding because lord knows we will miss a lot of shots. We could use a wing that could actually shoot.
Couldn't you apply your post to the cast of characters that we just had????
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Kid doesn't look no where near 6' 9".
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I mean look where all these "highly rated" recruits have gotten us. Nowhere. Add some hustlers and bangers that go after the ball like they're thirsty for it to the Harrison, Jordan, Branch (maybe Greene) backcourt and things could be worse.
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Kid doesn't look no where near 6' 9".
Hey man, stay positive. Hammer to rock. If Lavin is recruiting this kid, clearly it's because he sees something in him that he didn't see in Obekpa and Sampson.
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Kid doesn't look no where near 6' 9".
Hey man, stay positive. Hammer to rock. If Lavin is recruiting this kid, clearly it's because he sees something in him that he didn't see in Obekpa and Sampson.
http://youtu.be/V-IgnzwUV04 (http://youtu.be/V-IgnzwUV04)
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This kid apparently had recruitment fall off due to foot injury but it has come on lately. Just had. 24/14 game 2 days ago. Looks like a good fit. With jones and Thomas, not sure what we would have but it seems these kids are a bit tougher rebounders than we've had. I like how he has a jumpshot out to 15' or so. We desperately need all these guys like Delarosa, Jones and Thomas.
If we sign up say, four to five aggressive hard nosed rebounders this offseason - and two them stick, in the sense that two of them are net positives when they are on the floor, maybe that can be enough if our guard play is consistent enough next year. Maybe that'll be enough... that's a big maybe, but that's the best we can hope for at this point.
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we have as good a back court as any team in the bigeast. Ive already said how I feel about Christian Jones, if we can get a couple guys to come in and bang bodies and rebound while not killing the team with dumb mistakes then I think we can be successful.
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This kid apparently had recruitment fall off due to foot injury but it has come on lately. Just had. 24/14 game 2 days ago. Looks like a good fit. With jones and Thomas, not sure what we would have but it seems these kids are a bit tougher rebounders than we've had. I like how he has a jumpshot out to 15' or so. We desperately need all these guys like Delarosa, Jones and Thomas.
If we sign up say, four to five aggressive hard nosed rebounders this offseason - and two them stick, in the sense that two of them are net positives when they are on the floor, maybe that can be enough if our guard play is consistent enough next year. Maybe that'll be enough... that's a big maybe, but that's the best we can hope for at this point.
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we have as good a back court as any team in the bigeast. Ive already said how I feel about Christian Jones, if we can get a couple guys to come in and bang bodies and rebound while not killing the team with dumb mistakes then I think we can be successful.
And that is the problem. Even if the projects we go after pan out, it is still asking a lot for them to perform at a high enough level to give us a chance next year. I don't think we have one rebounder returning other than DLo. Pointer is a child, and Jones thinks he's a guard.
I'm hoping that the staff has worked w Chris on his game, and that he's toughened up, but we have no way of knowing if that's the case. I see an unbelievable amount of laziness on their part in terms of developing players. Only Greene, Obekpa, Harrison and Sampson have improved, and their improvement has been barely noticeable.
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I just hope we can find players that play hard for 40 minutes and have heart in big situations.
I agree with your sentiment, but it's not always practical at this level. I'm with you guys that this team needs hard working, gritty players. However, you have to have a good mix of players on your roster. Otherwise, your front court essentially consists of Curtis Johnson, Phil Missere, and Dexter Gray.
Anybody who would be satisfied with a class of the ADR, Keith Thomas, and Marlon Jones has really lowered their expectations for this program. I'm not saying any of these guys are bad players. What I am saying is that they are probably not as polished as some of the higher ranked players out there. And let's be honest, Lavin needs as much help as he can get. Developing players isn't exactly his forte.
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6'9" forward from Orr high school visiting soon. Very athletic kid with good hands. Videos look good.
I have to disagree here. I love the rebounding, but he's off balance on offense throughout the video. He looks really uncoordinated and I'm not sure what athleticism you see.
This is really one of the worst highlight videos I've ever seen. I see no reason why we would need both him and Thomas. Then again, after the Sampson debacle, I just want to stockpile bulldogs and this kids rebounds were awesome. I never want a finesse four again.
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But as first year players and freshman will they have a clue on defense or always be out of position and we get killed inside. Realize there are no other options and agree about the rebounding because lord knows we will miss a lot of shots. We could use a wing that could actually shoot.
Couldn't you apply your post to the cast of characters that we just had????
Yes. But these guys will have even less experience and Lavin isn't exactly Robert Montgomery Knight when it comes to teaching D.
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Fighting with Tulane and Loyola for a recruit?
loyola just landed guard better than phil greene today, his name is andre walker
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6'9" forward from Orr high school visiting soon. Very athletic kid with good hands. Videos look good.
I have to disagree here. I love the rebounding, but he's off balance on offense throughout the video. He looks really uncoordinated and I'm not sure what athleticism you see.
This is really one of the worst highlight videos I've ever seen. I see no reason why we would need both him and Thomas. Then again, after the Sampson debacle, I just want to stockpile bulldogs and this kids rebounds were awesome. I never want a finesse four again.
You don't see any athleticism with him skying for blocks and boards? C'mon now Marillac. Kid is 6'9, runs the court well. His rebounding is the best part though. I want both this kid and Thomas. I don't want guys like Tyler Harris destroying us on the boards again. We need tougher players, period.
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The program day by day is getting healthier. We're going to surround our elite backcourt with traditional big men, and elite rebounders. Keep on doubting Lavs and the staff people, the rumors and negativity with this forum has been embarrassing for a month, everyone needs to get a grip, and finally realize that a plan has been in place this entire Spring.
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The program day by day is getting healthier. We're going to surround our elite backcourt with traditional big men, and elite rebounders. Keep on doubting Lavs and the staff people, the rumors and negativity with this forum has been embarrassing for a month, everyone needs to get a grip, and finally realize that a plan has been in place this entire Spring.
So the plan was to replace a BE rookie of the year and one of the best rim protectors in school history with a guy that won't be able to play more than 10 minutes a game next year, a JuCo kid, and a kid that is only getting looks from Tulane and Loyola? Thats a pretty crappy plan
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was mutually leaving the program?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leave to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in high division D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was getting shown the door once the season ended?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leaving to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing.
We still haven't addressed two of our biggest problems: We don't have a true shooter and we don't have a head coach that knows anything about basketball. You can call it negativity, but I call it facts
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was mutually leaving the program?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leave to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
Sir dom one of the best defenders in the country yet again? Thats the most ridiculous rumor posted all off season.
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was mutually leaving the program?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leave to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
Qua man, it's not embarrassing. Embarrassing is the egg that they laid this year, and then giving up in the NIT. You will be hard pressed to find many on these forums that will give much slack, because we aren't landing top notch players in the frontcourt. I'm not saying they won't be good, but with so many ships, many fans expect to land a too 100 or two, not take flyers on late bloomers. These kids may very well be the goods, but with the disappointment we have seen this season, and our frontcourt being decimated, we expected to be involved with some big players in the 2014' class, not playing catch-up.
We still desperately need a real wing player, even if we land. Jones ans Thomas, otherwise teams will zone us forever. Any inside info on that?
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6'9" forward from Orr high school visiting soon. Very athletic kid with good hands. Videos look good.
I have to disagree here. I love the rebounding, but he's off balance on offense throughout the video. He looks really uncoordinated and I'm not sure what athleticism you see.
This is really one of the worst highlight videos I've ever seen. I see no reason why we would need both him and Thomas. Then again, after the Sampson debacle, I just want to stockpile bulldogs and this kids rebounds were awesome. I never want a finesse four again.
I agree with Marillac on this one, Marlons tape was very underwhelming. He does not possess elite atheleticism and shows no real skill around the basket, he does however have an excellent motor which is great. Thomas is iinfinitely more polished around the basket, is even more tenacious and fundamentally sound. There wasnt one shot on his tape in which he didnt box out. Thomas is ready to make an impact next year. Although we need bigs, it will be interesting to see if Lav addresses the guards in this cycle, if he doesnt we will be left with an equally unbalanced roster next year
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6'9" forward from Orr high school visiting soon. Very athletic kid with good hands. Videos look good.
I have to disagree here. I love the rebounding, but he's off balance on offense throughout the video. He looks really uncoordinated and I'm not sure what athleticism you see.
This is really one of the worst highlight videos I've ever seen. I see no reason why we would need both him and Thomas. Then again, after the Sampson debacle, I just want to stockpile bulldogs and this kids rebounds were awesome. I never want a finesse four again.
You don't see any athleticism with him skying for blocks and boards? C'mon now Marillac. Kid is 6'9, runs the court well. His rebounding is the best part though. I want both this kid and Thomas. I don't want guys like Tyler Harris destroying us on the boards again. We need tougher players, period.
I didn't see any athletic ability in this video. He doesn't have a single impressive leap. I love the rebounding, but the kid struggles putting one foot in front of the other.
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6'9" forward from Orr high school visiting soon. Very athletic kid with good hands. Videos look good.
I have to disagree here. I love the rebounding, but he's off balance on offense throughout the video. He looks really uncoordinated and I'm not sure what athleticism you see.
This is really one of the worst highlight videos I've ever seen. I see no reason why we would need both him and Thomas. Then again, after the Sampson debacle, I just want to stockpile bulldogs and this kids rebounds were awesome. I never want a finesse four again.
I agree with Marillac on this one, Marlons tape was very underwhelming. He does not possess elite atheleticism and shows no real skill around the basket, he does however have an excellent motor which is great. Thomas is iinfinitely more polished around the basket, is even more tenacious and fundamentally sound. There wasnt one shot on his tape in which he didnt box out. Thomas is ready to make an impact next year. Although we need bigs, it will be interesting to see if Lav addresses the guards in this cycle, if he doesnt we will be left with an equally unbalanced roster next year
We are being mentioned with that PG from Thomas' JC.
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was mutually leaving the program?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leave to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
Sir dom one of the best defenders in the country yet again? Thats the most ridiculous rumor posted all off season.
I can't even read that nonsense anymore. That kid better come out with a totally different game and mentality next season or he'll end up an epic bust.
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was mutually leaving the program?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leave to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
Sir dom one of the best defenders in the country yet again? Thats the most ridiculous rumor posted all off season.
I can't even read that nonsense anymore. That kid better come out with a totally different game and mentality next season or he'll end up an epic bust.
No, nonsense is drawing broad conclusions from a 2 minute video.
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Kid has a live body, something you can't teach. He's all over the boards and looks like he can provide more energy then what I saw all last year.
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Lets get back to this kid. Why does every post have to go into a Lavin post? It's a joke. Leave the recruit section to the actual players.
We have 6 schollies. Let's get some people in here. Big men always take longer to mature. Personally he seems like he will be someone who will give effort and can get his hands dirty. I mean GG wasn't exactly Bill Russell. Not saying that this kid will be Russell either but he will develop and be better than he is now.
Also, enough with these "expert" recruiting ratings. They are all a joke after the top tier senior players. They are at best weathermen.
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was mutually leaving the program?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leave to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
Sir dom one of the best defenders in the country yet again? Thats the most ridiculous rumor posted all off season.
I can't even read that nonsense anymore. That kid better come out with a totally different game and mentality next season or he'll end up an epic bust.
No, nonsense is drawing broad conclusions from a 2 minute video.
He's talking about Pointer. In other words, learn to read.
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Usually when a kid is a sleeper and no high major schools have offered, there's a reason
But see Stephen Curry; Seth Curry; and many others.
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was mutually leaving the program?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leave to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
Sir dom one of the best defenders in the country yet again? Thats the most ridiculous rumor posted all off season.
I can't even read that nonsense anymore. That kid better come out with a totally different game and mentality next season or he'll end up an epic bust.
No, nonsense is drawing broad conclusions from a 2 minute video.
He's talking about Pointer. In other words, learn to read.
So was I.
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What exactly is the scholarship table looking like? With Adonis on board and Greene staying for now, there are 5 up for grabs, right? Assuming Joey Delarosa and Lipscomb will get ships, there are 3 open. Does it make sense to bring in Jones AND Thomas? I'd like to see us land one of the higher impact transfers to help bridge the gap to 2015, and wouldn't mind leaving a ship open heading into the year.
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Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
The gossip is right far more often than you are champ...
Dom is going to take his game to another level this year IMO.
I seem to be in the minority, but I think that Harrison is going to be in the running for National Player of the Year.
He's just as valuable to us as McDermott is to Creighton IMO.
November can't get here soon enough. We're on the verge of a monster season.
we have a top 25 team this year and are going to be contending deep into March.
December 15th will be the biggest day for the program in 10 years, because we are going to wax Syracuse and send them back to the border with their heads down.
This is the year that Lavin's celebrity is going to make his mark in NY. I won't be surprised to see us on the back page of the city daily's from January to March. I forsee us being a top 25 team and predict us to lose only 1 OOC game, San Fran.
I think we're going to make a statement in South Dakota and we will be a Big East juggernaut throughout the conference season, winning multiple road games.
24-7, 12-1 non conf, 12-6 BE. Sir will be BEDPOY, D and Jak will make 1st team, and I think we'll be champs. Sweet 16 in my eyes, we're loaded!
Btw...I'm not sweating 2014-15, I think the staff is letting this roster do all of the recruiting needed for them this year.
The Catholic 7 is going to reign supreme IMO, while the Midwest teams will take time to adjust
... Hi Mark
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I spoke with a guy who has seen him play in person in Chicago. Said he was decent. That;s all he said.
At this stage of the game, I would take him and Thomas in a heartbeat.
I agree with MCN, UCONN just won with a nobody front including an underachieving Daniels. We can do the same. Only thing is I don't mind taking an under recruited kid when you have a pool of 25 to choose from but when you are scarping the last few kids on the table left it really puts you in a bind
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I spoke with a guy who has seen him play in person in Chicago. Said he was decent. That;s all he said.
At this stage of the game, I would take him and Thomas in a heartbeat.
I agree with MCN, UCONN just won with a nobody front including an underachieving Daniels. We can do the same. Only thing is I don't mind taking an under recruited kid when you have a pool of 25 to choose from but when you are scarping the last few kids on the table left it really puts you in a bind
Did you watch any of the tournament? Daniels may have underachieved for 2 1/2 years but he was a beast in the tourney with great numbers in pts and rebs until last game. Where is that kind of frontcourt player for us? So now the model is to purposely suck in the front court? UConn may very well be an anomaly and they did have many complementary parts In senior Giffey who played great team D and hit clutch 3s, Brimoh who was a rim protector ala Opekpa who in case you haven't noticed we don't have anymore. Take this to the bank-we will not be next years UConn!
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I spoke with a guy who has seen him play in person in Chicago. Said he was decent. That;s all he said.
At this stage of the game, I would take him and Thomas in a heartbeat.
I agree with MCN, UCONN just won with a nobody front including an underachieving Daniels. We can do the same. Only thing is I don't mind taking an under recruited kid when you have a pool of 25 to choose from but when you are scarping the last few kids on the table left it really puts you in a bind
Did you watch any of the tournament? Daniels may have underachieved for 2 1/2 years but he was a beast in the tourney with great numbers in pts and rebs until last game. Where is that kind of frontcourt player for us? So now the model is to purposely suck in the front court? UConn may very well be an anomaly and they did have many complementary parts In senior Giffey who played great team D and hit clutch 3s, Brimoh who was a rim protector ala Opekpa who in case you haven't noticed we don't have anymore. Take this to the bank-we will not be next years UConn!
No way I was suggesting that, we need a wing scorer and a few rebounders/defenders. That is a lot to ask for. We will have a hard time doing better than this year.
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I spoke with a guy who has seen him play in person in Chicago. Said he was decent. That;s all he said.
At this stage of the game, I would take him and Thomas in a heartbeat.
I agree with MCN, UCONN just won with a nobody front including an underachieving Daniels. We can do the same. Only thing is I don't mind taking an under recruited kid when you have a pool of 25 to choose from but when you are scarping the last few kids on the table left it really puts you in a bind
Did you watch any of the tournament? Daniels may have underachieved for 2 1/2 years but he was a beast in the tourney with great numbers in pts and rebs until last game. Where is that kind of frontcourt player for us? So now the model is to purposely suck in the front court? UConn may very well be an anomaly and they did have many complementary parts In senior Giffey who played great team D and hit clutch 3s, Brimoh who was a rim protector ala Opekpa who in case you haven't noticed we don't have anymore. Take this to the bank-we will not be next years UConn!
No way I was suggesting that, we need a wing scorer and a few rebounders/defenders. That is a lot to ask for. We will have a hard time doing better than this year.
Gotcha 89, you are a fan who seems to get it. Agree and hope we get more help for next year.
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There are only so many insiders within this forum.
Everyone else is merely guessing at what the staff might do, while the real insiders keep their mouths shut, like they should.
Tony, Rico and Whitesell are reputable coaches who have excelled in D1 college basketball and the NBA for years, (Whitesell and Rico, decades).
Do you not think they haven't known Max was on track to graduate, Jak was a 21 year old sophomore who wanted to get paid, and Obekpa was mutually leaving the program?
It's been common knowledge that Obekpa was a malcontent since he got here, that negative presence has left the locker room. Jakarr is a great kid, and is going to represent the University well in the professional ranks, globally or in the pros. All you need is one scout to like you. However, the ball movement has now opened up with him gone. No longer will the top of the key be clogged with his jump shooting.
Sheed, Dee and Phil are going to have real freedom next year. Sir is going to be one of the best defenders and athletes in the country, yet again. Now we're adding muscle, and true rebounding presence down low with traditional big men, yet people still whine around here.
Every rotation player has been rumored to leave this team this offseason with the exception of Dom and Jamal, seriously think about that, and how ridiculously inaccurate that is.
Maryland had 3 very talented rotation players all transfer yesterday, that's a bad situation. We had a bad seed transfer out, 4 students graduate, and one leave to play professionally. It's not a sinking ship.
The gossip and negativity in this forum is embarrassing. I'm a Lavin believer, have at it sharks.
Sir dom one of the best defenders in the country yet again? Thats the most ridiculous rumor posted all off season.
I can't even read that nonsense anymore. That kid better come out with a totally different game and mentality next season or he'll end up an epic bust.
No, nonsense is drawing broad conclusions from a 2 minute video.
I would only need a ten second highlight video of you to determine you can't play and you were stuffed in several lockers as a kid.
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Marillac you should be writing for Larry David shows!
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@AdamZagoria: Steve Lavin will see Marlon Jones today at Chicago Orr and Adom Jacko tomorrow in Cali
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Even if we don't address guards this year, I still think we need a wing with handle and range, unless we play 3 guards constantly which I don't really want to see us do.
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Usually when a kid is a sleeper and no high major schools have offered, there's a reason
But see Stephen Curry; Seth Curry; and many others.
It happens. It just happens for 7 or 8 programs per year, and we're asking to be one them in April, with 1 front court player committed to us, and he's not even signed, per academically eligible, yet.
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Even if we don't address guards this year, I still think we need a wing with handle and range, unless we play 3 guards constantly which I don't really want to see us do.
+1
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@VerbalCommits: 2014 Orr Academy (IL) F Marlon Jones has received an offer from St. John's. (HT @SwagAir) @24_pookie http://t.co/KDKZ4X9KYg (http://t.co/KDKZ4X9KYg)
Lavin offered yesterday apparently.
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I think new mix tape of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be)
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I think new mix tape of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be)
Well at least we know he can dunk.
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I think new mix tape of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be)
6'9 180? Wow that is skinny. This kid looks like he has a 16 inch vertical from this video.
I don't know about this one, but I do like the rebounding tenacity.
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Courtesy of Moose, some early positive commentary;
April '12
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1369434
Since day one of the spring, scouts and coaches alike have been wondering about a kid that was about 6-foot-8 and blocking everything close to the basket. That same player has shown low post moves and was catching lobs with his head at the rim. That prospects name isMarlon Jones of Chicago Orr in Illinois and he is going to be a good one.
A 2014 forward, Jones is like a one-man zone that has the ability to protect the basket inside the paint but is also a threat to fly out to the perimeter and quickly erase defensive miscues. He can make a jump hook over either shoulder and is a terrific passer from the low post. Jones fights for position in the low post and is strong enough to rut his way under the basket for an offensive rebound. He is long and a solid athlete. When the rising junior is aggressive, he is one of the most productive players in the Midwest.
Marlon Jones has something to prove, so much so that he plays with a chip on his shoulder.
"I am not a one position player," Jones said. "I can play the 3, 4 and 5 position. Basically, I am an all-around player."
His high school coaching staff at Chicago Orr claims that he holds offers from Providence and Purdue so far to go along with interest from Texas, Missouri and Illinois.
June '12
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1377047
This summer Jones was forced to switch AAU teams when the team he was playing for disbanded in the middle of the season. Jones also had to miss the prestigious Nike Elite 100 in St. Louis when his ride fell through at the last minute. Jones' fortunes on the hardwood have started to turn around recently, though.
"I've been hearing the most from Illinois, DePaul, and Vandy, but I've also been in contact with Mizzou, Purdue, and Providence" Jones said. "My coach told me Providence and Purdue have offered."
January '13
https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1460010
However, it was the 6-foot-7 Jones who did the most work for Orr. After a quiet first half, the junior power forward took over the second half and dominated the higher-ranked and five-inch-taller Trayvon Reed from Shiloh (Ga.) High. The slender and athletic Jones was all over the offensive glass, ran the floor and played with passion. Jones feels like he's got offers from Providence and Bradley, while Nebraska, DePaul, Illinois, Miami, Notre Dame and Purdue are tracking his progress.
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Scored on an in bounds play. Sign him up!
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Loyola just had two players leave this week fwiw;
"St. John's offers Chicago big man: Loyola appeared to be in the driver's seat to land Chicago post player Marlon Jones. St. John's, however, offered the late blooming big man during an in-home visit according to Daniel Poneman."
http://247sports.com/Bolt/St-Johns-offers-Chicago-big-man-28101171 (http://247sports.com/Bolt/St-Johns-offers-Chicago-big-man-28101171)
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looks bigger than 180 lbs, at least bigger than Karr. Pretty athletic and active, looks good all around. Would take all 3 6'8 F we are involved with and hope a couple can contribute right away as I don't think ADR will be ready to help much at all next year, These 3 with CJ, Dom and felix will at least give us options up front. I know, lavin can be dangerous with options but I rather have one or two players extra than come up short. Besides all these guys will be here for awhile (barring transfer) allowing Lavin to concentrate strictly on studs in the 15 class.
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looks bigger than 180 lbs, at least bigger than Karr. Pretty athletic and active, looks good all around. Would take all 3 6'8 F we are involved with and hope a couple can contribute right away as I don't think ADR will be ready to help much at all next year, These 3 with CJ, Dom and felix will at least give us options up front. I know, lavin can be dangerous with options but I rather have one or two players extra than come up short. Besides all these guys will be here for awhile (barring transfer) allowing Lavin to concentrate strictly on studs in the 15 class.
He looks bigger because I don't believe his listed height is accurate. He appears closer to 6'6F.
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So you can tell from a video that he is 6'6" and not the 6'7" / 6'8" listed?
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I think new mix tape of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be)
6'9 180? Wow that is skinny. This kid looks like he has a 16 inch vertical from this video.
I don't know about this one, but I do like the rebounding tenacity.
I dont think he looks that frail and I think you are seriously over exaggerating his 'lack' of athleticism. Yes he is raw but he really doesnt look that bad IMO. Were not gonna find a legit scoring option right now. Id rather Marlon jones play center than Dom pointer.
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I think new mix tape of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3SXdWgb40&feature=youtu.be)
6'9 180? Wow that is skinny. This kid looks like he has a 16 inch vertical from this video.
I don't know about this one, but I do like the rebounding tenacity.
I dont think he looks that frail and I think you are seriously over exaggerating his 'lack' of athleticism. Yes he is raw but he really doesnt look that bad IMO. Were not gonna find a legit scoring option right now. Id rather Marlon jones play center than Dom pointer.
I'm all for kids that hustle, but why this kid this year with all the transfers? The only way this makes sense is if all the big men transfers like Anderson from BC, the kids form Houston, and the kid from Michigan told Lavin no.
Thomas seems way better and could be around for three years. I love the rebounding, but I hate the fact that he says "I can play the three, four, and five." I want my PF to say he plays PF...like Thomas. This kid as a three...disgusting.
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So you can tell from a video that he is 6'6" and not the 6'7" / 6'8" listed?
I didn't say he is 6'6 I said he's closer to 6'6. He has also been listed as being 6'9. So to answer your question, yes I could tell.
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
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So you can tell from a video that he is 6'6" and not the 6'7" / 6'8" listed?
I didn't say he is 6'6 I said he's closer to 6'6. He has also been listed as being 6'9. So to answer your question, yes I could tell.
Kid looks pretty long, not like a 6'6" kid, but again, just conjecture. He looks pretty good to me. Works hard around the glass. Plays very vertical by the glass. I don't think it has to be Jones or Thomas. It could be both. We lose 3 pf's.
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I haven't seen him in over a year but I remember him being like a less athletic Amir Garrett.
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/st-johns-pursuing-chicago-forwards-jones-cunningham/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/st-johns-pursuing-chicago-forwards-jones-cunningham/)
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I haven't seen him in over a year but I remember him being like a less athletic Amir Garrett.
How's his slider?
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
We just had that with Sampson. But just because he wasn't allowed to shoot the 3, doesn't mean he can't do it. Donald Emanuel and
Lamont Hamilton were good 3 point shooters for us. But it didn't happen overnight.
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He should be on campus on Friday.
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
He hits the glass...better rebounds per minute than anyone we had on a team with 3-4 other guys on the court with him being 6'6.
FWIW, his outside shot is actually pretty decent looking. I don't have a problem with a big taking a three here an there in the right situation--shot clock running down, wide open and not in a close game. They have to earn that first.
I really don't want this Marlon Jones kid.
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
He hits the glass...better rebounds per minute than anyone we had on a team with 3-4 other guys on the court with him being 6'6.
FWIW, his outside shot is actually pretty decent looking. I don't have a problem with a big taking a three here an there in the right situation--shot clock running down, wide open and not in a close game. They have to earn that first.
I really don't want this Marlon Jones kid.
Id take him but only after we know we wont get either Thomas or Horford.
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
He hits the glass...better rebounds per minute than anyone we had on a team with 3-4 other guys on the court with him being 6'6.
FWIW, his outside shot is actually pretty decent looking. I don't have a problem with a big taking a three here an there in the right situation--shot clock running down, wide open and not in a close game. They have to earn that first.
I really don't want this Marlon Jones kid.
Id take him but only after we know we wont get either Thomas or Horford.
This kid and Thomas would make great front court bookends. We'd be very lucky to grab them at this point. I'd take either over Chris Jones based on the videos. and what we've seen so far. You can't have too many 6'8 leapers who score and board..
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As time goes on he will only add weight and improve. Who knows maybe he ll even grow an inch or 2, Always nice to have some 4 year players.
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
He hits the glass...better rebounds per minute than anyone we had on a team with 3-4 other guys on the court with him being 6'6.
FWIW, his outside shot is actually pretty decent looking. I don't have a problem with a big taking a three here an there in the right situation--shot clock running down, wide open and not in a close game. They have to earn that first.
I really don't want this Marlon Jones kid.
Id take him but only after we know we wont get either Thomas or Horford.
This kid and Thomas would make great front court bookends. We'd be very lucky to grab them at this point. I'd take either over Chris Jones based on the videos. and what we've seen so far. You can't have too many 6'8 leapers who score and board..
Where are people seeing this leaping ability? I think they just see a skinny 6'8 kid with dreads and assume he can jump. Maybe he can, but he doesn't have a single impressive leap in either highlight video. If anything he looks like he has a limited vertical. Regardless...pass.
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
He hits the glass...better rebounds per minute than anyone we had on a team with 3-4 other guys on the court with him being 6'6.
FWIW, his outside shot is actually pretty decent looking. I don't have a problem with a big taking a three here an there in the right situation--shot clock running down, wide open and not in a close game. They have to earn that first.
I really don't want this Marlon Jones kid.
Id take him but only after we know we wont get either Thomas or Horford.
This kid and Thomas would make great front court bookends. We'd be very lucky to grab them at this point. I'd take either over Chris Jones based on the videos. and what we've seen so far. You can't have too many 6'8 leapers who score and board..
Where are people seeing this leaping ability? I think they just see a skinny 6'8 kid with dreads and assume he can jump. Maybe he can, but he doesn't have a single impressive leap in either highlight video. If anything he looks like he has a limited vertical. Regardless...pass.
Respectfully, It's not necessarily all about leaping... it's about timing and length. Maybe he has long arms. When I saw the video, his tips of his fingers were near the middle of the back-board. If his timing isn't bad, his rebounding and blocking could be fine - especially in our water-downed Big East. He certainly would be a hella of a better free throw shooter than some front court options we had this past year.
I have no idea what his game is like - if he a great player or a lousy one, but I'm pretty sure being effective down-low is not just all about leaping...
Just ask Anthony Glover.
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
He hits the glass...better rebounds per minute than anyone we had on a team with 3-4 other guys on the court with him being 6'6.
FWIW, his outside shot is actually pretty decent looking. I don't have a problem with a big taking a three here an there in the right situation--shot clock running down, wide open and not in a close game. They have to earn that first.
I really don't want this Marlon Jones kid.
Id take him but only after we know we wont get either Thomas or Horford.
This kid and Thomas would make great front court bookends. We'd be very lucky to grab them at this point. I'd take either over Chris Jones based on the videos. and what we've seen so far. You can't have too many 6'8 leapers who score and board..
Where are people seeing this leaping ability? I think they just see a skinny 6'8 kid with dreads and assume he can jump. Maybe he can, but he doesn't have a single impressive leap in either highlight video. If anything he looks like he has a limited vertical. Regardless...pass.
Respectfully, It's not necessarily all about leaping... it's about timing and length. Maybe he has long arms. When I saw the video, his tips of his fingers were near the middle of the back-board. If his timing isn't bad, his rebounding and blocking could be fine - especially in our water-downed Big East. He certainly would be a hella of a better free throw shooter than some front court options we had this past year.
I have no idea what his game is like - if he a great player or a lousy one, but I'm pretty sure being effective down-low is not just all about leaping...
Just ask Anthony Glover.
I agree with that last statement. In no way do I think leaping is that important. It's a nice bonus. Thomas doesn't seem to be a great leaper, but I am all for getting him. I am just commenting to al the posters that say this kid can leap. Where do they see that?
This kid, I see as a C-USA type guy. He could decelop into kid we could use...but I'd so much rather have Thomas.
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I think we get Thomas for sure.
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I think we get Thomas for sure.
I think we get Thomas for sure.
What makes you say that?
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria 1m
Chicago F Marlon Jones won't visit #sjubb, source tells @SNYtv
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria 1m
Chicago F Marlon Jones won't visit #sjubb, source tells @SNYtv
Interesting
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria 1m
Chicago F Marlon Jones won't visit #sjubb, source tells @SNYtv
Interesting
Doesn't mean he won't commit. Perhaps he feels he doesn't need to visit. I just have a hard time believing we would get his teammate but not him. It's either we get both or neither, in my opinion.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Chicago forward Marlon Jones still expected to visit St. John's, just not this weekend. #sjubb
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There is another scenario for why we ae not chasing transfers. They may be leaving their teams because of the same me first, ego, and entourage issues that haunted our team this year. There may be concerns, legitimate I would say, that we would just be adding a new troublemaker to the locker room. Better to seek hungry kids who are seeking to improve, and not just seeking a platform to showcase for a season for NBA scouts.
Good point. The Michigan transfer Horford is one for ten shooting the 3 and he was quoted as saying he wants to go to a school where the coach will let him expand his game and shoot the 3. Until reading that I wanted him but after hell no. Who wants a one year player that wants to play to his weaknesses just to impress the pro scouts.
He hits the glass...better rebounds per minute than anyone we had on a team with 3-4 other guys on the court with him being 6'6.
FWIW, his outside shot is actually pretty decent looking. I don't have a problem with a big taking a three here an there in the right situation--shot clock running down, wide open and not in a close game. They have to earn that first.
I really don't want this Marlon Jones kid.
Id take him but only after we know we wont get either Thomas or Horford.
This kid and Thomas would make great front court bookends. We'd be very lucky to grab them at this point. I'd take either over Chris Jones based on the videos. and what we've seen so far. You can't have too many 6'8 leapers who score and board..
Where are people seeing this leaping ability? I think they just see a skinny 6'8 kid with dreads and assume he can jump. Maybe he can, but he doesn't have a single impressive leap in either highlight video. If anything he looks like he has a limited vertical. Regardless...pass.
After watching a string of dunks without the traditional SJU type missed layups I'd take him in a heartbeat. He seems very efficient as opposed to a random leaper. We've had enough track stars who couldn't score in traffic. Thomas' numbers say it all and Jones would complement him IMO quite well. Certainly there was nothing in the clips that would dissuade me. Lavin dumped Ron Roberts because he wasn't a super leaper but we sure could have used him as we were being out-boarded by the Sisters of the Poor all year. Let's put away the tape measures and focus on basketball players.from here on.
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Watching Roberts this season he developed into quite a leaper with some amazing dunks-announcers were always saying he constantly amazes his teammates especially in practice with his acrobatic dunks. As for jones I also like him and what I like best about him is he seems very active in all aspects of the game. Would not mind signing him at all and his guard teammate would seem like a good get also in the future.
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Just picked up an offer from Miami:
Verbal Commits @VerbalCommits · 7h
2014 Orr Academy (IL) F Marlon Jones has received an offer from Miami. (HT @D1Circuit) @24_pookie http://verbalcommits.com/players/marlon-jones (http://verbalcommits.com/players/marlon-jones) …
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Looks like he picked Loyola Chicago.
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Looks like he picked Loyola Chicago.
I just have a hard time believing that. Probably what happened was that the kid begged Lavin to let him come to SJU and Lavin said no and then the kid lost his will to live and randomly picked Loyola. He was only 6'2" anyway and a pussy. Next.
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According to Zach B, had to do with Obekpa coming back.
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As long as we land Cunningham and Thomas, I'm fine with it. Those two are the ones I'd most like to see here.
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As long as we land Cunningham and Thomas, I'm fine with it. Those two are the ones I'd most like to see here.
Confident about Thomas. Cunningham is the one I worry about.
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AdamZagoria: #sjubb target @Jeremy_Woo
6-8 PF Marlon Jones (Chicago Orr) has committed to Loyola (Chicago). Huge, huge get for Ramblers.
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AdamZagoria: #sjubb target @Jeremy_Woo
6-8 PF Marlon Jones (Chicago Orr) has committed to Loyola (Chicago). Huge, huge get for Ramblers.
Loyola Chicago? Got to be kidding me
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Another academic disaster. glad we avoided this one;
@CBTonNBC: Marlon Jones is headed to Junior College instead of Loyola (IL) http://t.co/7wfHcbdF1Z (http://t.co/7wfHcbdF1Z)