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St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: nudginator59 on March 28, 2015, 01:46:28 AM

Title: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: nudginator59 on March 28, 2015, 01:46:28 AM
With Lavin moving on, Dr. Gempenshaw has a chance to put his mark on the program by hiring a new coach. Father Harrington definitely left his mark on the program, and for the first time in a quarter of a century a new vision will be put in place.

What kind of impact will the new President  have on the program?
Was Lavin the problem or just a symptom of the prolem?
Does remove Lavin show true leadership or smells of desperation?
Do you have faith in the new President?
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: mullin85berry86 on March 28, 2015, 03:07:19 AM
With Lavin moving on, Dr. Gempenshaw has a chance to put his mark on the program by hiring a new coach. Father Harrington definitely left his mark on the program, and for the first time in a quarter of a century a new vision will be put in place.

What kind of impact will the new President  have on the program? A good impact
Was Lavin the problem or just a symptom of the prolem? He was 50% of the pronblem
Does remove Lavin show true leadership or smells of desperation? Didn't he walk away because he wanted a higher salary? Though kudos to Gemp for not budging.
Do you have faith in the new President? Yes

I voted the top option, winning a NC? Would love for that dream to become a reality one day. Hopefully with the next coach.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: mavericknyc1980 on March 28, 2015, 05:41:54 AM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: bball purist on March 28, 2015, 07:23:43 AM
With Lavin moving on, Dr. Gempenshaw has a chance to put his mark on the program by hiring a new coach. Father Harrington definitely left his mark on the program, and for the first time in a quarter of a century a new vision will be put in place.

What kind of impact will the new President  have on the program? A good impact
Was Lavin the problem or just a symptom of the prolem? He was 50% of the pronblem
Does remove Lavin show true leadership or smells of desperation? Didn't he walk away because he wanted a higher salary? Though kudos to Gemp for not budging.
Do you have faith in the new President? Yes

I voted the top option, winning a NC? Would love for that dream to become a reality one day. Hopefully with the next coach.
Leave it to a former ref to get it done...:)
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: Poison on March 28, 2015, 09:26:42 AM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: Moon Mullen on March 28, 2015, 09:42:05 AM
Every wrong choice is 5-6 years of your basketball fan life.
A correct choice can be 15-20 years of your basketball fan life.
Let's hope he gets it right, I've had enough of the 5-6  year choices.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: redslope on March 28, 2015, 11:34:29 AM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: redslope on March 28, 2015, 11:40:28 AM
I think he should review all sports and make similar decisions where warranted.  He looked at women's BB and gave Coach Joe an extension that was warranted.  He needs to look at men's soccer to see how far we have fallen.  Question the change in the golf team coach and its impact on alumni.  Look at all sports and expect excellence.  Maybe some coaches have become complacent after so many years on the payroll (Darby wasn't after 20 years as we won the BE in 2014).  He should also look at the AD because I can't see a thing that he adds other than to his tan.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: goredmen on March 28, 2015, 11:40:36 AM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.

I don't think he's calling Lavin a criminal. I think he's calling Father Harrington a criminal 1000x worse than Jarvis
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: simplyred on March 28, 2015, 12:13:08 PM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.

I don't think he's calling Lavin a criminal. I think he's calling Father Harrington a criminal 1000x worse than Jarvis

Coming a day after Lavin's firing, I also thought that's who he was referring to.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: redstorm212 on March 28, 2015, 01:09:37 PM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.

do people here even read?  they just name call without even knowing what's being said.

Gempenshaw  was referenced.

Poison said "he" replaced a criminal x1000 Mike Jarvis.

Since he is Gempenshaw, "he" replaced Fr. Harrington

add in that there's been no evidence of shady behavior by Lavin (context for you) and there's no way he would have been talking about lavin

It could easily be interpreted both ways.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: mjmaherjr on March 28, 2015, 01:10:15 PM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.
poison definitely talking about harrington
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: bball purist on March 28, 2015, 01:12:59 PM
Jeez, when we make it back to the top 10, I feel like they're going to make a documentary called the Gempenshaw(shank) Redemption
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: redslope on March 28, 2015, 01:24:19 PM
The comment above about a replacement was very poorly written and the writer should  amend it unless he is calling Lavin worse than Jarvis.  This topic as started was discussing was discussing Gempenshaw putting his mark on the program so when someone writes he replaced, the he is referring to Gempenshaw who the topic is discussing.  Furthermore Gempenshaw did NOT replace Harrington-there was a one year university president between Harrington and Gempenshaw. 

Lastly as I said in my second post above, I believe Gempenshaw should look at ALL sports and clean house of dead wood.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: boo3 on March 28, 2015, 02:37:30 PM
 All fans of the same team yet there is still a segment of posters that sole purpose is to insult others.   
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: Celtics11 on March 28, 2015, 03:38:26 PM
Poison quoted a one line quote about GEMPESHAW. No ambiguity or possible other interpretation unless you think Poison thinks that Gempeshaw is replacing Lavin as basketball coach.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: bball purist on March 28, 2015, 03:47:45 PM
All fans of the same team yet there is still a segment of posters that sole purpose is to insult others.
so easy to veer off topic and let the vitriol fly. 


I hope President Gempenshaw adopts a similar stance to the analogy that President Loh used when he took over at Maryland.  Dr. Loh stated that if a university is one big house, then the entire athletics department is the front porch.


I hope all athletics are addressed, why the AD is ticking off alums, coaches, the fan base, whomever (or if it is overblown), and the entire university bands together to move this apple cart forward.   
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: nudginator59 on March 28, 2015, 04:48:34 PM
All fans of the same team yet there is still a segment of posters that sole purpose is to insult others.
so easy to veer off topic and let the vitriol fly. 


I hope President Gempenshaw adopts a similar stance to the analogy that President Loh used when he took over at Maryland.  Dr. Loh stated that if a university is one big house, then the entire athletics department is the front porch.


I hope all athletics are addressed, why the AD is ticking off alums, coaches, the fan base, whomever (or if it is overblown), and the entire university bands together to move this apple cart forward.   

Priority one is a new coach and then does anyone think the AD will be move out by the summer, safe for now, or dismissed right after a new coach is picked?
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: bball purist on March 28, 2015, 05:00:30 PM
All fans of the same team yet there is still a segment of posters that sole purpose is to insult others.
so easy to veer off topic and let the vitriol fly. 


I hope President Gempenshaw adopts a similar stance to the analogy that President Loh used when he took over at Maryland.  Dr. Loh stated that if a university is one big house, then the entire athletics department is the front porch.


I hope all athletics are addressed, why the AD is ticking off alums, coaches, the fan base, whomever (or if it is overblown), and the entire university bands together to move this apple cart forward.   

Priority one is a new coach and then does anyone think the AD will be move out by the summer, safe for now, or dismissed right after a new coach is picked?
Great question I didn't consider. I figured he survives since a new coach was the answer, and it seems like the Prez knows about the other issues the occurred. Now I'm thinking maybe not.
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: TONYD3 on March 28, 2015, 05:02:16 PM
Why do u guys hate the AD so much?
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: Poison on March 28, 2015, 05:06:32 PM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.

Lavin is an upstanding bag of wind. I'm not talking about him. 
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: Poison on March 28, 2015, 05:07:20 PM
Why do u guys hate the AD so much?

Because he doesn't care. No passion.
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: Poison on March 28, 2015, 05:09:18 PM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.

I don't think he's calling Lavin a criminal. I think he's calling Father Harrington a criminal 1000x worse than Jarvis

Thanks
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: Poison on March 28, 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.

do people here even read?  they just name call without even knowing what's being said.

Gempenshaw  was referenced.

Poison said "he" replaced a criminal x1000 Mike Jarvis.

Since he is Gempenshaw, "he" replaced Fr. Harrington

add in that there's been no evidence of shady behavior by Lavin (context for you) and there's no way he would have been talking about lavin

It could easily be interpreted both ways.

This thread is about the President. Not the coach.
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: redstorm212 on March 28, 2015, 05:17:52 PM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.

do people here even read?  they just name call without even knowing what's being said.

Gempenshaw  was referenced.

Poison said "he" replaced a criminal x1000 Mike Jarvis.

Since he is Gempenshaw, "he" replaced Fr. Harrington

add in that there's been no evidence of shady behavior by Lavin (context for you) and there's no way he would have been talking about lavin

It could easily be interpreted both ways.

This thread is about the President. Not the coach.

I understand the subject was the current president. But when I first read it, it was unclear what you meant by "he replaced." it was unclear if you meant "he replaced" Lavin (as in replacing him with a new HC) or Harrington. Thank you for clarifying.
Title: Re: The Gempesaw era has official begun
Post by: Poison on March 28, 2015, 05:28:04 PM
Can someone give me some info on the Gempenshaw story? Trying to have an idea of what is going on.

He replaced a criminal 1000X worse than Mike Jarvis. That's the story.
You can be quite funny at times but this is totally out of the ball park if you believe it.  This will destroy your credibility. To call Lavin a criminal 1000 times worse than Jarvis indicates you were not around during those years.  In the past 5 years no BB player was accused of man handling women in the dorms; no one was having hookers in their rooms on the road, no one was feeding money under the table to one of the worst players in SJU history.  Get real.

do people here even read?  they just name call without even knowing what's being said.

Gempenshaw  was referenced.

Poison said "he" replaced a criminal x1000 Mike Jarvis.

Since he is Gempenshaw, "he" replaced Fr. Harrington

add in that there's been no evidence of shady behavior by Lavin (context for you) and there's no way he would have been talking about lavin

It could easily be interpreted both ways.

This thread is about the President. Not the coach.

I understand the subject was the current president. But when I first read it, it was unclear what you meant by "he replaced." it was unclear if you meant "he replaced" Lavin (as in replacing him with a new HC) or Harrington. Thank you for clarifying.

Ok, I see what you mean. Now that we've cleared that up, as long as Gempesaw doesn't intentionally want to harm the program, I think he'll do fine here. How much he cares about St.John's will be directly reflected in how much he cares about the basketball program.

There might be some alumns going back to the school for soccer and baseball games, but without basketball, the alumni will disappear, and the link to the majority of donors will go with them. When I said that Harrington was 1000x times worse than Jarvis, I was being conservative. People keep blaming coaches, and ignoring the master puppeteer behind all of it.

Jarvis broke no law. But Harrington belongs in jail, and he belongs there for a long time.
Title: Re: The Gempenshaw era has official begun
Post by: cjfish on March 28, 2015, 06:30:25 PM
Every wrong choice is 5-6 years of your basketball fan life.
A correct choice can be 15-20 years of your basketball fan life.
Let's hope he gets it right, I've had enough of the 5-6  year choices.



You got that right, Im not getting any younger and many more bad choices and I may be typing from the old age home