6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: carmineabbatiello on January 24, 2017, 12:53:40 AM
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D'angelo "3'lo" Harrison - 79
Avery "Single game 3-pt record holder" Patterson - 72
Willie "Phillies" Shaw - 71
Shamorie "Ducks on the" Ponds - 55 with a minimum of 11 games remaining.
The race is on! Does he get there?
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/77/a1/d077a10fa0c2c5d7271cb1c2ef5f3d9a.jpg)
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Is this for a Freshman record or most in any season?
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If this was Duke-related, then you could use Grayson "Jack Tripper" Allen.
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D'angelo "3'lo" Harrison - 79
Avery "Single game 3-pt record holder" Patterson - 72
Willie "Phillies" Shaw - 71
Shamorie "Ducks on the" Ponds - 55 with a minimum of 11 games remaining.
The race is on! Does he get there?
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/77/a1/d077a10fa0c2c5d7271cb1c2ef5f3d9a.jpg)
I think as a freshman, Shamorie Ponds is better than those three players were as freshman, and all of them played on more balanced teams than Ponds does. He's streaky but the guy always contributes. Can't expect every game to be a college senior All American level, but some of his games have been exactly that.
The fact that Ponds is the best rebounder on our team is both impressive and sad at the same time.
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D'angelo "3'lo" Harrison - 79
Avery "Single game 3-pt record holder" Patterson - 72
Willie "Phillies" Shaw - 71
Shamorie "Ducks on the" Ponds - 55 with a minimum of 11 games remaining.
The race is on! Does he get there?
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/77/a1/d077a10fa0c2c5d7271cb1c2ef5f3d9a.jpg)
nice picture
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The fact that Ponds is the best rebounder on our team is both impressive and sad at the same time.
much more sad than impressive
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Is this for a Freshman record or most in any season?
These are the all-time single season St. John leaders.
Recall that the 3 pt. shot was not yet adopted by the Ncaa when our beloved coach was a player.
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If this was Duke-related, then you could use Grayson "Jack Tripper" Allen.
Good one.
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I think as a freshman, Shamorie Ponds is better than those three players were as freshman, and all of them played on more balanced teams than Ponds does. He's streaky but the guy always contributes. Can't expect every game to be a college senior All American level, but some of his games have been exactly that.
The fact that Ponds is the best rebounder on our team is both impressive and sad at the same time.
Was the team Dangelo's freshman year more balanced? There were really only 2 contributors on that team and then a whole lot of nothing. There are 4-5 guys that are capable of scoring on any given night this year.
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Ponds will break this. My guess is 81.
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I think as a freshman, Shamorie Ponds is better than those three players were as freshman, and all of them played on more balanced teams than Ponds does. He's streaky but the guy always contributes. Can't expect every game to be a college senior All American level, but some of his games have been exactly that.
The fact that Ponds is the best rebounder on our team is both impressive and sad at the same time.
Was the team Dangelo's freshman year more balanced? There were really only 2 contributors on that team and then a whole lot of nothing. There are 4-5 guys that are capable of scoring on any given night this year.
Didn't they have to go with an Iron Six that first year? Pelle and Sampson did not qualify; Stith and Lindsey quit.
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I think as a freshman, Shamorie Ponds is better than those three players were as freshman, and all of them played on more balanced teams than Ponds does. He's streaky but the guy always contributes. Can't expect every game to be a college senior All American level, but some of his games have been exactly that.
The fact that Ponds is the best rebounder on our team is both impressive and sad at the same time.
Was the team Dangelo's freshman year more balanced? There were really only 2 contributors on that team and then a whole lot of nothing. There are 4-5 guys that are capable of scoring on any given night this year.
Didn't they have to go with an Iron Six that first year? Pelle and Sampson did not qualify; Stith and Lindsey quit.
The Fresh Five + God'sgift was better players but I don't know if they were more "balanced".
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For the first time ever we have 5 count'em 5 more than competent three point shooters. And that's not counting Evander Holifields 100% clip.
It's crystal clear to even Mr. Magoo what our offensive strategy needs to be at this point.
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I wish we would run more plays to try and get these guys open 3's. I still think a lot of these 3's are forced and we are still hitting them. If we could just get some more guys better looks we might be able to shoot the lights out more often. This is especially true for guys like Ahmed and Mussini who don't really have the handle or qucikness to get open from deep on their own.
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I think as a freshman, Shamorie Ponds is better than those three players were as freshman, and all of them played on more balanced teams than Ponds does. He's streaky but the guy always contributes. Can't expect every game to be a college senior All American level, but some of his games have been exactly that.
The fact that Ponds is the best rebounder on our team is both impressive and sad at the same time.
Was the team Dangelo's freshman year more balanced? There were really only 2 contributors on that team and then a whole lot of nothing. There are 4-5 guys that are capable of scoring on any given night this year.
This current team has better overall guard play, but they had Harkless and God's Gift inside. Garret and Pointer hustled on defense. They played harder than this group, too.
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53 - 45 - 46 - 47
Carmine's peak blood alcohol levels following another Johnny loss?
No, the three point shooting percentages of our Big East opponents thus far.
What the heck is going on? Collegiate 3 point shooting averages in general have got to be somewhere in the 30's.
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because we give leave them open more than not they have plenty of time to square up and get good looks like they are in practice vs. game
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3-POINT FG PCT DEFENSE G 3FGM 3FGA Pct
1. Creighton 8 53 175 .303
2. Providence 7 53 174 .305
3. Marquette 7 35 114 .307
4. Villanova 6 40 120 .333
5. Xavier 8 76 213 .357
6. DePaul 7 63 173 .364
7. Georgetown 8 76 208 .365
8. Seton Hall 7 58 155 .374
9. Butler 8 71 179 .397
10. St. John's 8 93 199 .467
We are at the bottom of the league by a lot. The only team to shoot less than 40% against us thus far was Gtown in the first game and they shot a respectable 35%. Add that to our league worst 3-pt shooting percentage and it's a recipe for disaster in today's game.
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3-POINT FG PCT DEFENSE G 3FGM 3FGA Pct
1. Creighton 8 53 175 .303
2. Providence 7 53 174 .305
3. Marquette 7 35 114 .307
4. Villanova 6 40 120 .333
5. Xavier 8 76 213 .357
6. DePaul 7 63 173 .364
7. Georgetown 8 76 208 .365
8. Seton Hall 7 58 155 .374
9. Butler 8 71 179 .397
10. St. John's 8 93 199 .467
We are at the bottom of the league by a lot. The only team to shoot less than 40% against us thus far was Gtown in the first game and they shot a respectable 35%. Add that to our league worst 3-pt shooting percentage and it's a recipe for disaster in today's game.
It's because we don't play zone and switch defenses.
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3-POINT FG PCT DEFENSE G 3FGM 3FGA Pct
1. Creighton 8 53 175 .303
2. Providence 7 53 174 .305
3. Marquette 7 35 114 .307
4. Villanova 6 40 120 .333
5. Xavier 8 76 213 .357
6. DePaul 7 63 173 .364
7. Georgetown 8 76 208 .365
8. Seton Hall 7 58 155 .374
9. Butler 8 71 179 .397
10. St. John's 8 93 199 .467
We are at the bottom of the league by a lot. The only team to shoot less than 40% against us thus far was Gtown in the first game and they shot a respectable 35%. Add that to our league worst 3-pt shooting percentage and it's a recipe for disaster in today's game.
It's because we don't play zone and switch defenses.
bing bing bing - correct answer. I know the man to man worked in louies days but with no bench , crappy rebounding and abysmal 3 point D you would think with the athletes we have playing a zone would be the right thing to do .
BTW a young suzanne sommers only to be topped by (http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/41/57/53/8846051/5/rawImage.jpg)
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3-POINT FG PCT DEFENSE G 3FGM 3FGA Pct
1. Creighton 8 53 175 .303
2. Providence 7 53 174 .305
3. Marquette 7 35 114 .307
4. Villanova 6 40 120 .333
5. Xavier 8 76 213 .357
6. DePaul 7 63 173 .364
7. Georgetown 8 76 208 .365
8. Seton Hall 7 58 155 .374
9. Butler 8 71 179 .397
10. St. John's 8 93 199 .467
We are at the bottom of the league by a lot. The only team to shoot less than 40% against us thus far was Gtown in the first game and they shot a respectable 35%. Add that to our league worst 3-pt shooting percentage and it's a recipe for disaster in today's game.
It's because we don't play zone and switch defenses.
bing bing bing - correct answer. I know the man to man worked in louies days but with no bench , crappy rebounding and abysmal 3 point D you would think with the athletes we have playing a zone would be the right thing to do .
BTW a young suzanne sommers only to be topped by (http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/41/57/53/8846051/5/rawImage.jpg)
This team is built for the 1-3-1. Is there a better top for that zone than Simon with his length and athletic ability? Is there a better baseline defender than Ponds with his hands and rebounding? It's just crazy the staff insists on man.
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I've been screaming for this team to play multiple zone defenses since Year 1 of this regime.
This season, even more so than the first two seasons because of the lack of depth. It could also play to their strength(s) and help save their energy.
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I thought the opposite - that it's easier to shoot 3's against zone than man as zones tend to concentrate defenders nearer the basket leaving more room to shoot on the perimeter.
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I thought the opposite - that it's easier to shoot 3's against zone than man as zones tend to concentrate defenders nearer the basket leaving more room to shoot on the perimeter.
Mix up the defenses (between zone defenses and man). Also properly, played zone (especially, against a team who doesn't particularly pass or space well) can wreak havoc.
It would also play to our strengths due to our ability to block shots (there would be weak side blocked shots) and our knack for deflections and garnering steals. Ponds and Simon could create issues, per playing the passing lanes. Once again, it'll also give the team fresher legs down the stretch in ball games.
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I actually hate zone. It is a lazy man's defense. Ponds, Simon and particularly Ahmed are slow to get out on three point shooters on rotations and sometimes just guarding their own man.
I do agree probably should have tried to mix it in for portion of games especially after Lovett thing since we were so undermanned.
Not sure would have helped and might have hurt though.