6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marillac on October 14, 2017, 12:48:15 AM
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Simon looks insane athletically and physically. Can see his vision over the top is really there and his rebound and go opportunities will be huge. Clark can have freedom to shoot some
3’s as long as he’s physical on defense and hunts down boards.
Owens will never be a big guy but you can see some more muscle in his arms and I’m hinesrlt not worried about him getting man handled in the post. He’s easily our best option at center and would love to see him get over 25 min a game.
Ponds is a clown. An extremely talented clown. 20 ppg.
We are gonna shoot so many threes it will be gross.
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How was the musical performance?
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How was the musical performance?
You were great ;)
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How was the musical performance?
You were great ;)
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BREAKING: Rapper Dave East tells students at St. John's Tip Off to "put up the middle finger for Donald Trump," students emphatically cheer.
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BREAKING: Rapper Dave East tells students at St. John's Tip Off to "put up the middle finger for Donald Trump," students emphatically cheer.
View details ·
Torch Sports
@TorchSportsReplying to @TorchSports
Students responded to East by displaying the vulgar symbol, at which point East says "keep them up there."pic.twitter.com/CRFEkOa6
As a result of this, 4 blue collar losers will not pay for season tickets this season. Instead, they will spend their money where it is appreciated.
But it shouldn't take a away the fact that it was a great moment of unity at St.John's and reflected the feelings of an America that will be there when Trump is sentenced.
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12h
BREAKING: Rapper Dave East tells students at St. John's Tip Off to "put up the middle finger for Donald Trump," students emphatically cheer.
View details ·
Torch Sports
@TorchSportsReplying to @TorchSports
Students responded to East by displaying the vulgar symbol, at which point East says "keep them up there."pic.twitter.com/CRFEkOa6
As a result of this, 4 blue collar losers will not pay for season tickets this season. Instead, they will spend their money where it is appreciated.
But it shouldn't take a away the fact that it was a great moment of unity at St.John's and reflected the feelings of an America that will be there when Trump is sentenced.
Can you guys discuss this some where else?
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Any link to video of the scrimmage?
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Simon looks insane athletically and physically. Can see his vision over the top is really there and his rebound and go opportunities will be huge. Clark can have freedom to shoot some
3’s as long as he’s physical on defense and hunts down boards.
Owens will never be a big guy but you can see some more muscle in his arms and I’m hinesrlt not worried about him getting man handled in the post. He’s easily our best option at center and would love to see him get over 25 min a game.
Ponds is a clown. An extremely talented clown. 20 ppg.
We are gonna shoot so many threes it will be gross.
Like Syracuse gross? But will they go in?
How about the other frosh, Trimble?
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Simon looks insane athletically and physically. Can see his vision over the top is really there and his rebound and go opportunities will be huge. Clark can have freedom to shoot some
3’s as long as he’s physical on defense and hunts down boards.
Owens will never be a big guy but you can see some more muscle in his arms and I’m hinesrlt not worried about him getting man handled in the post. He’s easily our best option at center and would love to see him get over 25 min a game.
Ponds is a clown. An extremely talented clown. 20 ppg.
We are gonna shoot so many threes it will be gross.
Like Syracuse gross? But will they go in?
How about the other frosh, Trimble?
You mean the only frosh. Our lazy staff brought in one recruit.
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Trimble looked like he has a solid
The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Simon looks insane athletically and physically. Can see his vision over the top is really there and his rebound and go opportunities will be huge. Clark can have freedom to shoot some
3’s as long as he’s physical on defense and hunts down boards.
Owens will never be a big guy but you can see some more muscle in his arms and I’m hinesrlt not worried about him getting man handled in the post. He’s easily our best option at center and would love to see him get over 25 min a game.
Ponds is a clown. An extremely talented clown. 20 ppg.
We are gonna shoot so many threes it will be gross.
Like Syracuse gross? But will they go in?
How about the other frosh, Trimble?
Trimble looked like he had a pretty good stroke but it’s a low release. While his strength will help him in some regard and is certainly a nice contrast to our guards last year, I think he’s a bit out of shape and will struggle with quickness both staying and front and geting by defenders.
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Any link to video of the scrimmage?
Can be replayed here..
https://www.facebook.com/StJohnsRedStorm/
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Trimble looked like he has a solidThe board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Simon looks insane athletically and physically. Can see his vision over the top is really there and his rebound and go opportunities will be huge. Clark can have freedom to shoot some
3’s as long as he’s physical on defense and hunts down boards.
Owens will never be a big guy but you can see some more muscle in his arms and I’m hinesrlt not worried about him getting man handled in the post. He’s easily our best option at center and would love to see him get over 25 min a game.
Ponds is a clown. An extremely talented clown. 20 ppg.
We are gonna shoot so many threes it will be gross.
Like Syracuse gross? But will they go in?
How about the other frosh, Trimble?
Trimble looked like he had a pretty good stroke but it’s a low release. While his strength will help him in some regard and is certainly a nice contrast to our guards last year, I think he’s a bit out of shape and will struggle with quickness both staying and front and geting by defenders.
Appreciate the analysis but how can we tell who is in shape when they aren't supposed to be going all out?
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You cannot tell anything from these scrimmages. The guys are going halfway and just trying to put on a show while staying healthy. Non of this translates to a real game. The only thing I took away from last night is that these kids seem to all really like and support each other. Team unity is obviously important. Looking froward to the season
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You cannot tell anything from these scrimmages. The guys are going halfway and just trying to put on a show while staying healthy. Non of this translates to a real game. The only thing I took away from last night is that these kids seem to all really like and support each other. Team unity is obviously important. Looking froward to the season
Exactly. This isn't a real practice, nor should it ever be.
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You cannot tell anything from these scrimmages. The guys are going halfway and just trying to put on a show while staying healthy. Non of this translates to a real game. The only thing I took away from last night is that these kids seem to all really like and support each other. Team unity is obviously important. Looking froward to the season
Exactly. This isn't a real practice, nor should it ever be.
Not saying if hes in shape or not, because Ive read good things about him for his summer here... but in the scrimmage he looks like the chubby kid from the playground.
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You cannot tell anything from these scrimmages. The guys are going halfway and just trying to put on a show while staying healthy. Non of this translates to a real game. The only thing I took away from last night is that these kids seem to all really like and support each other. Team unity is obviously important. Looking froward to the season
Exactly. This isn't a real practice, nor should it ever be.
Main thing about the "Exhibition" is that no one got hurt.
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Yakwe catching and finishing was encouraging, as was Alibagowtz looking to rebound, as was Ahmed looking in control considering how out of control they were. Clark has a better handle than I expected, Simon is bigger than I expected and the two freshmen look reasonably coordinated. The dance wearing flannel shirts did little to hide the freshman and that fat guy dances worse than I do and I don't dance.
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BREAKING: Rapper Dave East tells students at St. John's Tip Off to "put up the middle finger for Donald Trump," students emphatically cheer.
View details ·
Torch Sports
@TorchSportsReplying to @TorchSports
Students responded to East by displaying the vulgar symbol, at which point East says "keep them up there."pic.twitter.com/CRFEkOa6
As a result of this, 4 blue collar losers will not pay for season tickets this season. Instead, they will spend their money where it is appreciated.
But it shouldn't take a away the fact that it was a great moment of unity at St.John's and reflected the feelings of an America that will be there when Trump is sentenced.
Can you guys discuss this some where else?
Yes, please. We come here to escape this stuff.
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Trimble looked like he has a solidThe board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Simon looks insane athletically and physically. Can see his vision over the top is really there and his rebound and go opportunities will be huge. Clark can have freedom to shoot some
3’s as long as he’s physical on defense and hunts down boards.
Owens will never be a big guy but you can see some more muscle in his arms and I’m hinesrlt not worried about him getting man handled in the post. He’s easily our best option at center and would love to see him get over 25 min a game.
Ponds is a clown. An extremely talented clown. 20 ppg.
We are gonna shoot so many threes it will be gross.
Like Syracuse gross? But will they go in?
How about the other frosh, Trimble?
Trimble looked like he had a pretty good stroke but it’s a low release. While his strength will help him in some regard and is certainly a nice contrast to our guards last year, I think he’s a bit out of shape and will struggle with quickness both staying and front and geting by defenders.
His stroke is really low and his release points are inconsistent, but he's good at getting his feet set and under him and he seems to have a good touch. I don't see 220 lbs...that seems crazy to me at just 6'3. He's in a really good spot as the lone freshman given his physicality IF he becomes a shutdown defender.
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
Do tell.
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
Do tell.
He won't
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
Do tell.
He won't
I can't
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So sick of Baldi's endless bullshit. Doesn't Iona have a site? Go there and leave us alone.
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So sick of Baldi's endless bullshit. Doesn't Iona have a site? Go there and leave us alone.
Need a safe space?
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Your routine is exhausting. If you know something, say it. You hint at shit like a junior high girl.
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We always know bad news is on the way. It's who were are and what we do. ::)
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Your routine is exhausting. If you know something, say it. You hint at shit like a junior high girl.
I always post what I got, as I did with Ponds a few weeks back. I was told it's multiple things, which we will know soon enough I would guess. Once I get more specifics, I'll be sure to let you know.
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Don't recall what you posted on Ponds, other than suggesting he watch what he posts on his social media pages which all I saw was his posting of playing pickup ball w/ Melo and some pics with some hot chick.
Is your new info related to Ponds or something else?
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
Do tell.
He won't
I can't
Sure you're can. Just don't reveal your sources.
On the real, Baldi.... You won't reveal it because it probably won't come to fruition, and it'll create an out for you, if don't reveal it.
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
Do tell.
He won't
I can't
Sure you're can. Just don't reveal your sources.
On the real, Baldi.... You won't reveal it because it probably won't come to fruition, and it'll create an out for you, if don't reveal it.
No, I'm saying I don't know what it is yet. Only was told it was multiple things.
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Don't recall what you posted on Ponds, other than suggesting he watch what he posts on his social media pages which all I saw was his posting of playing pickup ball w/ Melo and some pics with some hot chick.
Is your new info related to Ponds or something else?
He's posted a few things that are better left off social media.
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Baldi Source: Hey Baldi, bet you'll love to know there is embarassing news to surface for SJU
Baldi: Of course I would
Baldi Source: It's multiple embarrasing things.
Baldi: Even better
Baldi Source: I can't tell you what it is though... because it's all too embarrasing
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Baldi Source: Hey Baldi, bet you'll love to know there is embarassing news to surface for SJU
Baldi: Of course I would
Baldi Source: It's multiple embarrasing things.
Baldi: Even better
Baldi Source: I can't tell you what it is though... because it's all too embarrasing
LOL
See you soon
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BREAKING: Rapper Dave East tells students at St. John's Tip Off to "put up the middle finger for Donald Trump," students emphatically cheer.
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Students responded to East by displaying the vulgar symbol, at which point East says "keep them up there."pic.twitter.com/CRFEkOa6
As a result of this, 4 blue collar losers will not pay for season tickets this season. Instead, they will spend their money where it is appreciated.
But it shouldn't take a away the fact that it was a great moment of unity at St.John's and reflected the feelings of an America that will be there when Trump is sentenced.
Can you guys discuss this some where else?
This happened on our basketball court, so no. Why don't you take some pride in the St.John's student body? At least they're passionate about something that will make the University look better than anything they've done lately. Let's hope the students can use their hatred for that POS and apply it towards emphatically supporting the team.
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12h
BREAKING: Rapper Dave East tells students at St. John's Tip Off to "put up the middle finger for Donald Trump," students emphatically cheer.
View details ·
Torch Sports
@TorchSportsReplying to @TorchSports
Students responded to East by displaying the vulgar symbol, at which point East says "keep them up there."pic.twitter.com/CRFEkOa6
As a result of this, 4 blue collar losers will not pay for season tickets this season. Instead, they will spend their money where it is appreciated.
But it shouldn't take a away the fact that it was a great moment of unity at St.John's and reflected the feelings of an America that will be there when Trump is sentenced.
Can you guys discuss this some where else?
This happened on our basketball court, so no. Why don't you take some pride in the St.John's student body? At least they're passionate about something that will make the University look better than anything they've done lately. Let's hope the students can use their hatred for that POS and apply it towards emphatically supporting the team.
Take pride? You're such a sleazy invertebrate.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TorchSports/status/919010329060872193/photo/1
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12h
BREAKING: Rapper Dave East tells students at St. John's Tip Off to "put up the middle finger for Donald Trump," students emphatically cheer.
View details ·
Torch Sports
@TorchSportsReplying to @TorchSports
Students responded to East by displaying the vulgar symbol, at which point East says "keep them up there."pic.twitter.com/CRFEkOa6
As a result of this, 4 blue collar losers will not pay for season tickets this season. Instead, they will spend their money where it is appreciated.
But it shouldn't take a away the fact that it was a great moment of unity at St.John's and reflected the feelings of an America that will be there when Trump is sentenced.
Can you guys discuss this some where else?
This happened on our basketball court, so no. Why don't you take some pride in the St.John's student body? At least they're passionate about something that will make the University look better than anything they've done lately. Let's hope the students can use their hatred for that POS and apply it towards emphatically supporting the team.
Take pride? You're such a sleazy invertebrate.
Don't be such a snowflake. Hurry up Florida. It's almost time for dinner.
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Back to basketball. Yakwe looks to be much improved and much more confident. Here's hoping he takes this to actual games. Amir also looks much better...Everyone played ole defense out there...so who knows? I'm praying Ponds doesn't launch half court bricks during games. Undisciplined. Clark/Simon look like the real deal. Same with Trimble. Again, this team will have to play defense. It does us no good to score 90+ points a game when we're giving up 100.
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Back to basketball. Yakwe looks to be much improved and much more confident. Here's hoping he takes this to actual games. Amir also looks much better...Everyone played ole defense out there...so who knows? I'm praying Ponds doesn't launch half court bricks during games. Undisciplined. Clark/Simon look like the real deal. Same with Trimble. Again, this team will have to play defense. It does us no good to score 90+ points a game when we're giving up 100.
I think a lot of us are forgetting that making it out of this nonsense without a major knee injury during a dunk contest is all that we should hope for. I don't want any of them playing defense during a dance party. And we shouldn't be worrying about Ponds chucking up bad shots. He makes them in games.
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Back to basketball. Yakwe looks to be much improved and much more confident. Here's hoping he takes this to actual games. Amir also looks much better...Everyone played ole defense out there...so who knows? I'm praying Ponds doesn't launch half court bricks during games. Undisciplined. Clark/Simon look like the real deal. Same with Trimble. Again, this team will have to play defense. It does us no good to score 90+ points a game when we're giving up 100.
I think Yakwe is the wildcard. We need one more piece on the inside. Cant count on Owens giving us 35 minutes a game. Lets hope this year is an improved version of his freshman year.
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
Agree. I don’t think the offense is efficient. We take to many bad shots. Bad players take way to many shots period. The tempo makes no sense to me. Can’t win playing so fast and inefficient. Sadly the defense is much worse. No intensity. We often don’t box out. Our Guards allow way to much penetration. Wing players, don’t recognize and cover shooters. Our big players are not physical. All they do is try and block shots.
I want to make the tournament also. And I will still watch every game. We have some talent. Their will be some games. But this team does not play wining basketball.
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
I want to make the tournament also. And I will still watch every game. We have some talent. Their will be some games. But this team does not play wining basketball.
They haven't played any games yet, how would you know if they play winning basketball or not?
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
I want to make the tournament also. And I will still watch every game. We have some talent. Their will be some games. But this team does not play wining basketball.
They haven't played any games yet, how would you know if they play winning basketball or not?
Contrast to Kentucky's Midnight Madness. They meant business. We were content to entertain.
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Midnight madness is nothing more than a glorified pep rally. I'm fine w entertainment providing the team plays tough and plays D in the real games.
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
I want to make the tournament also. And I will still watch every game. We have some talent. Their will be some games. But this team does not play wining basketball.
They haven't played any games yet, how would you know if they play winning basketball or not?
Contrast to Kentucky's Midnight Madness. They meant business. We were content to entertain.
Right that's why Kentucky gets 5 star recruits and will win more games than SJU this year, because for 1 hour on the 1st practice they were 10% more serious than SJU.
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
Do tell.
He won't
I can't
Sure you're can. Just don't reveal your sources.
On the real, Baldi.... You won't reveal it because it probably won't come to fruition, and it'll create an out for you, if don't reveal it.
Baldi's source is pretty obvious.
But more importantly we have a fat guard? How come I was not informed of this? Lot of potential comedy there.
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The impression I have from the staff is that they are very good at coaching the offensive side of the ball and all the nuances that go with it. I've heard first hand from a coach I respect that St. Jean is a "monster" on that side of the ball. But offense is fun and it's easy physically. Defense is grueling and zaps your energy. You need a coach that obsesses over every detail. A split-second late on a switch or help and you might as well not even try. I'm not sure we have that guy on the staff and, for that reason, I'm not bullish on our chances even with an exponentially more talented roster.
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
Do tell.
He won't
I can't
Sure you're can. Just don't reveal your sources.
On the real, Baldi.... You won't reveal it because it probably won't come to fruition, and it'll create an out for you, if don't reveal it.
Baldi's source is pretty obvious.
But more importantly we have a fat guard? How come I was not informed of this? Lot of potential comedy there.
My source says you are wrong. And you like fat men
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The board is eerily quiet for an opening night. I know you can't tell much from a scrimmage -- and this was loose even compared to normal scrimmages -- but here are some thoughts:
Simon looks freakishly athletic and very strong finishing. He's a big kid and listed at 215 on the roster. When you take those extra 20 lbs into account, he's knocking on Dom's door athletically. Also nice to see was how he crashed the glass for finishes.
Ahmed is the only guy who can really dance on the roster. Beyond that, he looked more explosive than last year and finished some really strong dunks. His movement was more efficient as well. If he can put it together as many JuCos do year two, that would be a huge boost.
T.O.'s body is disappointing. He's listed at just 205. It's inexcusable for him to be less than 225 this year. Any other major program would have had him near 240 by now.
We have a lot of lefties.
Simon seemed happy to defer PG duties in the half court as expected.
Clark's outside shot looks nice for a big man. I would be surprised to see him around 40% if he limits his shots to 3-4 open looks a game.
Two years ago Lovett was faster than anyone I've ever seen compared to the rest of the players on the floor...last year he just looked quick...this year he didn't stand out at all. I take that as a sign that the athletic ability around him as improved significantly.
Back to basketball. Yakwe looks to be much improved and much more confident. Here's hoping he takes this to actual games. Amir also looks much better...Everyone played ole defense out there...so who knows? I'm praying Ponds doesn't launch half court bricks during games. Undisciplined. Clark/Simon look like the real deal. Same with Trimble. Again, this team will have to play defense. It does us no good to score 90+ points a game when we're giving up 100.
I think Yakwe is the wildcard. We need one more piece on the inside. Cant count on Owens giving us 35 minutes a game. Lets hope this year is an improved version of his freshman year.
With 7 main guys, we have a lot of wildcards. We really need Simon to be a stud...that is probably the best surprise this team could get because of his size and versatility. We need one of Clark or Yakwe to step up for sure to have a chance.
Ahmed is also a candidate for a breakout if he trimmed some of the fat off his game and comes back more committed to defense.
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More unnecessary embarrassment for this program and school . Apparently more embarrassing news coming soon...stay tuned
Do tell.
He won't
I can't
Sure you're can. Just don't reveal your sources.
On the real, Baldi.... You won't reveal it because it probably won't come to fruition, and it'll create an out for you, if don't reveal it.
Baldi's source is pretty obvious.
But more importantly we have a fat guard? How come I was not informed of this? Lot of potential comedy there.
My source says you are wrong. And you like fat men
Well your source is a fat man ;) But I like chicks and they like me
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The impression I have from the staff is that they are very good at coaching the offensive side of the ball and all the nuances that go with it. I've heard first hand from a coach I respect that St. Jean is a "monster" on that side of the ball. But offense is fun and it's easy physically. Defense is grueling and zaps your energy. You need a coach that obsesses over every detail. A split-second late on a switch or help and you might as well not even try. I'm not sure we have that guy on the staff and, for that reason, I'm not bullish on our chances even with an exponentially more talented roster.
Fair point
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The impression I have from the staff is that they are very good at coaching the offensive side of the ball and all the nuances that go with it. I've heard first hand from a coach I respect that St. Jean is a "monster" on that side of the ball. But offense is fun and it's easy physically. Defense is grueling and zaps your energy. You need a coach that obsesses over every detail. A split-second late on a switch or help and you might as well not even try. I'm not sure we have that guy on the staff and, for that reason, I'm not bullish on our chances even with an exponentially more talented roster.
Fair point
Agreed. Great job Marillac. It all starts at the top with Lovett and Ponds. Both need to put more effort in the defense. Big East is full of great guards, these 2 need to keep in front of them
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
I want to make the tournament also. And I will still watch every game. We have some talent. Their will be some games. But this team does not play wining basketball.
They haven't played any games yet, how would you know if they play winning basketball or not?
Contrast to Kentucky's Midnight Madness. They meant business. We were content to entertain.
Right that's why Kentucky gets 5 star recruits and will win more games than SJU this year, because for 1 hour on the 1st practice they were 10% more serious than SJU.
It's the difference between a winning mentality and a not give a sht mentality. Five star players don't always win championships.
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
Agree. I don’t think the offense is efficient. We take to many bad shots. Bad players take way to many shots period. The tempo makes no sense to me. Can’t win playing so fast and inefficient. Sadly the defense is much worse. No intensity. We often don’t box out. Our Guards allow way to much penetration. Wing players, don’t recognize and cover shooters. Our big players are not physical. All they do is try and block shots.
I want to make the tournament also. And I will still watch every game. We have some talent. Their will be some games. But this team does not play wining basketball.
Disagree. The offense was good last year. The defense was embarrassing.
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The impression I have from the staff is that they are very good at coaching the offensive side of the ball and all the nuances that go with it. I've heard first hand from a coach I respect that St. Jean is a "monster" on that side of the ball. But offense is fun and it's easy physically. Defense is grueling and zaps your energy. You need a coach that obsesses over every detail. A split-second late on a switch or help and you might as well not even try. I'm not sure we have that guy on the staff and, for that reason, I'm not bullish on our chances even with an exponentially more talented roster.
+1
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+++ 9000. Some kids have better defensive techniques or instincts than others, but our guys have the athletic ability to improve on their end.
The impression I have from the staff is that they are very good at coaching the offensive side of the ball and all the nuances that go with it. I've heard first hand from a coach I respect that St. Jean is a "monster" on that side of the ball. But offense is fun and it's easy physically. Defense is grueling and zaps your energy. You need a coach that obsesses over every detail. A split-second late on a switch or help and you might as well not even try. I'm not sure we have that guy on the staff and, for that reason, I'm not bullish on our chances even with an exponentially more talented roster.
Fair point
Agreed. Great job Marillac. It all starts at the top with Lovett and Ponds. Both need to put more effort in the defense. Big East is full of great guards, these 2 need to keep in front of them
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
I want to make the tournament also. And I will still watch every game. We have some talent. Their will be some games. But this team does not play wining basketball.
They haven't played any games yet, how would you know if they play winning basketball or not?
Contrast to Kentucky's Midnight Madness. They meant business. We were content to entertain.
Right that's why Kentucky gets 5 star recruits and will win more games than SJU this year, because for 1 hour on the 1st practice they were 10% more serious than SJU.
It's the difference between a winning mentality and a not give a sht mentality. Five star players don't always win championships.
That's a crock. The difference is UK can pay a top coach 7-10 million a year, have a ridiculous fan base with ridiculous boosters to support a big program.
Butler did not have a midnight madness at all, so that must put them behind BOTH SJU and UK except Butler has done just fine. Chris Holtmann left Butler probably because Butler doesn't have a midnight madness right???
Or because Ohio St is a top 15 program with gobs of money and incredible facilities...
The idea that Midnight Madness is what is separating SJU from UK is ridiculous.
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it seems to be the collective wisdom on here that our defense needs improving, but that our offense was ok. Actually they were both pretty bad. our tempo, which was 11th in the country just made it appear that our defense was worse than it is and offense was better than it is. Offense was 90th and defense was 130th according to kenpom stats. Offense was a bit better than D, but unless one somehow becomes elite (top 15 or so), both will need to improve into the 50s or so for this team to make the tournament.
I want to make the tournament also. And I will still watch every game. We have some talent. Their will be some games. But this team does not play wining basketball.
They haven't played any games yet, how would you know if they play winning basketball or not?
Contrast to Kentucky's Midnight Madness. They meant business. We were content to entertain.
Right that's why Kentucky gets 5 star recruits and will win more games than SJU this year, because for 1 hour on the 1st practice they were 10% more serious than SJU.
It's the difference between a winning mentality and a not give a sht mentality. Five star players don't always win championships.
That's a crock. The difference is UK can pay a top coach 7-10 million a year, have a ridiculous fan base with ridiculous boosters to support a big program.
Butler did not have a midnight madness at all, so that must put them behind BOTH SJU and UK except Butler has done just fine. Chris Holtmann left Butler probably because Butler doesn't have a midnight madness right???
Or because Ohio St is a top 15 program with gobs of money and incredible facilities...
The idea that Midnight Madness is what is separating SJU from UK is ridiculous.
We're not good enough to "fool around". It brings about the usual loser mentality that's killed this team going back years. Kentucky means business. Their players' goals is to make the NBA. Our guys will be picking up women in burkas post college careers. It's all about hard work.
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Fooling around at MM madness is one thing. But, in practice they have to work hard and get down to business.
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We're not good enough to "fool around". It brings about the usual loser mentality that's killed this team going back years. Kentucky means business. Their players' goals is to make the NBA. Our guys will be picking up women in burkas post college careers. It's all about hard work.
Kentucky with 27 players on NBA rosters for opening night - staggering number