6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: hnk on October 28, 2017, 08:31:34 AM
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Who looked good etc? Thanks
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Per Zach B:
@NYPost_Brazille
St Johns beat Hofstra in scrimmage by 15. Justin Simon with 18 and 9. Marvin Clark 16. Shamorie Ponds Marcus LoVett double figures #sjubb
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Per Zach B:
@NYPost_Brazille
St Johns beat Hofstra in scrimmage by 15. Justin Simon with 18 and 9. Marvin Clark 16. Shamorie Ponds Marcus LoVett double figures #sjubb
:)
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Good numbers by Simon. Is that 9 ast or rebounds?
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If we can get production even close to that level from those two with improved defense could be a nice season for us.
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@NYPost_Brazille
Won by 13 not 15
I think that really tilted the payouts in Vegas. ::)
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Better result than losing to STAC by 30+. Nice start guys.
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Good numbers by Simon. Is that 9 ast or rebounds?
Rebounds
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Per Zach B:
@NYPost_Brazille
St Johns beat Hofstra in scrimmage by 15. Justin Simon with 18 and 9. Marvin Clark 16. Shamorie Ponds Marcus LoVett double figures #sjubb
Exactly what we wanted to see to start.
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If Simon and Clark can score consistently, alongside Bash, LoVett, and Ponds, this team is far harder to defend. Opponents can't focus on simply making LoVett and Ponds work very hard for their points to hold us down. This could be an offensively deep team with different guys stepping up on different days. Four consistent double figure scorers would be nice balance.
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Good for Simon & Clark after the long wait.
Would have equally liked to see Yakwe & Owens perform well in an early session like this.
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Per Zach B:
@NYPost_Brazille
St Johns beat Hofstra in scrimmage by 15. Justin Simon with 18 and 9. Marvin Clark 16. Shamorie Ponds Marcus LoVett double figures #sjubb
Exactly what the doctor ordered, after 1.5 years of wondering what if, our questions have been answered. We have not 1 but 2 immediate contributors that are more talented and well rounded than the kids that transferred out in the Spring.
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After hearing we beat lowly Hofstra by a whopping 13 points I hear that Duke is trying to cancel their game with us. Now I know you can't read to much into the results of this scrimmage but reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like we are final 4 bound. Sorry to be Debbie Downer or Negative Nancy but if the 2 new guys played well added to what we have returning shouldn't we beat Hofstra by more than 13 points?
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After hearing we beat lowly Hofstra by a whopping 13 points I hear that Duke is trying to cancel their game with us. Now I know you can't read to much into the results of this scrimmage but reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like we are final 4 bound. Sorry to be Debbie Downer or Negative Nancy but if the 2 new guys played well added to what we have returning shouldn't we beat Hofstra by more than 13 points?
Maybe coach Mullin didn’t have his starters in the final couple of minutes. We don’t know what happened outside of us winning. Providence is projected to finish in the upper half of the Big East and they just lost to Carleton College.
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After hearing we beat lowly Hofstra by a whopping 13 points I hear that Duke is trying to cancel their game with us. Now I know you can't read to much into the results of this scrimmage but reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like we are final 4 bound. Sorry to be Debbie Downer or Negative Nancy but if the 2 new guys played well added to what we have returning shouldn't we beat Hofstra by more than 13 points?
This was a scrimmage last year's team could have lost. A double-digit win over Hofstra is great news and puts us where many hoped we'd be at this early stage. One step at a time.
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After hearing we beat lowly Hofstra by a whopping 13 points I hear that Duke is trying to cancel their game with us. Now I know you can't read to much into the results of this scrimmage but reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like we are final 4 bound. Sorry to be Debbie Downer or Negative Nancy but if the 2 new guys played well added to what we have returning shouldn't we beat Hofstra by more than 13 points?
It's a scrimmage first of all. So the goal is to get everyone playing time and see who meshes together. The goal is not to win by as much as possible. I'm sure there was a lot of experimenting with lineups and things like that. I'm not saying a win against hoftstra is a huge step but the fact that Simon and Clark played well is important. If we can have 5 guys that can score 12-15 on any given night with Ponds, Bash, Lovett, Simon and Clark then we will be tough to beat.
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After hearing we beat lowly Hofstra by a whopping 13 points I hear that Duke is trying to cancel their game with us. Now I know you can't read to much into the results of this scrimmage but reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like we are final 4 bound. Sorry to be Debbie Downer or Negative Nancy but if the 2 new guys played well added to what we have returning shouldn't we beat Hofstra by more than 13 points?
Maybe coach Mullin didn’t have his starters in the final couple of minutes. We don’t know what happened outside of us winning. Providence is projected to finish in the upper half of the Big East and they just lost to Carleton College.
Carleton College beat Alabama pre season nationally ranked by 30 points during their summer tour. They are no joke. If you are excited by a 13 point win over Hofstra so be it. My concerns about Mullein's coaching continue. Instead of comparing it to our past few teams compare it to a team expected to be on the bubble for the tourney this season and we only have 9 guys this year and all are expected to contribute it's not like he is playing 9 through 13 on the roster.
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After hearing we beat lowly Hofstra by a whopping 13 points I hear that Duke is trying to cancel their game with us. Now I know you can't read to much into the results of this scrimmage but reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like we are final 4 bound. Sorry to be Debbie Downer or Negative Nancy but if the 2 new guys played well added to what we have returning shouldn't we beat Hofstra by more than 13 points?
It's a scrimmage first of all. So the goal is to get everyone playing time and see who meshes together. The goal is not to win by as much as possible. I'm sure there was a lot of experimenting with lineups and things like that. I'm not saying a win against hoftstra is a huge step but the fact that Simon and Clark played well is important. If we can have 5 guys that can score 12-15 on any given night with Ponds, Bash, Lovett, Simon and Clark then we will be tough to beat.
Agreed. And get out injury free
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Wods 317 is spot on. The purpose of a scrimmage is not to blow the opposing team out. But to experiment w lineups. We have been debating how much time should Simon spend handling the ball. This is the time to find out. It is also the time to put the newcomers in and see what they have in a game situation. It also is an opportunity to work on weaknesses.
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Hopefully both Justin and Marv redeliver Wednesday night, I tend to think that they will. Any word on who was in the starting lineup was yesterday?
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Hopefully both Justin and Marv redeliver Wednesday night, I tend to think that they will. Any word on who was in the starting lineup yesterday?
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After hearing we beat lowly Hofstra by a whopping 13 points I hear that Duke is trying to cancel their game with us. Now I know you can't read to much into the results of this scrimmage but reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like we are final 4 bound. Sorry to be Debbie Downer or Negative Nancy but if the 2 new guys played well added to what we have returning shouldn't we beat Hofstra by more than 13 points?
It's progress Celts...last year we lost by 15 or so to URI...take whatever we can get...lol
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I'd like to know whether the score was 113-100 or 63-50. It makes a difference.
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After hearing we beat lowly Hofstra by a whopping 13 points I hear that Duke is trying to cancel their game with us. Now I know you can't read to much into the results of this scrimmage but reading some of the posts in this thread it sounds like we are final 4 bound. Sorry to be Debbie Downer or Negative Nancy but if the 2 new guys played well added to what we have returning shouldn't we beat Hofstra by more than 13 points?
Who'd you expect us to beat by 13 yesterday?
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Wods 317 is spot on. The purpose of a scrimmage is not to blow the opposing team out. But to experiment w lineups. We have been debating how much time should Simon spend handling the ball. This is the time to find out. It is also the time to put the newcomers in and see what they have in a game situation. It also is an opportunity to work on weaknesses.
Is it just St. John's that experiments with line-ups, work on weaknesses and have newcomers to work into the playing rotation or are other teams in the same boat? Do other teams not improve as the season goes on? Sorry but if we are a bubble team I am not going to get excited by a 13 point advantage over Hofstra. Wasn't last years Rhoddy team an NCAA team?
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Wods 317 is spot on. The purpose of a scrimmage is not to blow the opposing team out. But to experiment w lineups. We have been debating how much time should Simon spend handling the ball. This is the time to find out. It is also the time to put the newcomers in and see what they have in a game situation. It also is an opportunity to work on weaknesses.
Is it just St. John's that experiments with line-ups, work on weaknesses and have newcomers to work into the playing rotation or are other teams in the same boat? Do other teams not improve as the season goes on? Sorry but if we are a bubble team I am not going to get excited by a 13 point advantage over Hofstra. Wasn't last years Rhoddy team an NCAA team?
Hofstra is ranked 120 on KenPom (dePaul is 119). They aren't bad. 13 point road win would cover the spread if it was a real game.
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Wods 317 is spot on. The purpose of a scrimmage is not to blow the opposing team out. But to experiment w lineups. We have been debating how much time should Simon spend handling the ball. This is the time to find out. It is also the time to put the newcomers in and see what they have in a game situation. It also is an opportunity to work on weaknesses.
Is it just St. John's that experiments with line-ups, work on weaknesses and have newcomers to work into the playing rotation or are other teams in the same boat? Do other teams not improve as the season goes on? Sorry but if we are a bubble team I am not going to get excited by a 13 point advantage over Hofstra. Wasn't last years Rhoddy team an NCAA team?
You don't have to get excited to be pleased with where the team is at early on. Hofstra is a decent team and we won by a convincing margin on the road with two new starters -- who combined for 34 pts and 13 rebounds. We should beat Rutgers on the road as well. Hopefully this continues.
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Wods 317 is spot on. The purpose of a scrimmage is not to blow the opposing team out. But to experiment w lineups. We have been debating how much time should Simon spend handling the ball. This is the time to find out. It is also the time to put the newcomers in and see what they have in a game situation. It also is an opportunity to work on weaknesses.
Is it just St. John's that experiments with line-ups, work on weaknesses and have newcomers to work into the playing rotation or are other teams in the same boat? Do other teams not improve as the season goes on? Sorry but if we are a bubble team I am not going to get excited by a 13 point advantage over Hofstra. Wasn't last years Rhoddy team an NCAA team?
No it’s not just SJU. Like I said, that is the purpose of a scrimmage. The score is meaningless. Especially in a closed scrimmage.
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Wods 317 is spot on. The purpose of a scrimmage is not to blow the opposing team out. But to experiment w lineups. We have been debating how much time should Simon spend handling the ball. This is the time to find out. It is also the time to put the newcomers in and see what they have in a game situation. It also is an opportunity to work on weaknesses.
Is it just St. John's that experiments with line-ups, work on weaknesses and have newcomers to work into the playing rotation or are other teams in the same boat? Do other teams not improve as the season goes on? Sorry but if we are a bubble team I am not going to get excited by a 13 point advantage over Hofstra. Wasn't last years Rhoddy team an NCAA team?
No it’s not just SJU. Like I said, that is the purpose of a scrimmage. The score is meaningless. Especially in a closed scrimmage.
The score is never meaningless.