6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: QuanMan on June 03, 2015, 11:00:46 PM
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http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-pm-harkless-prepares-for-breakout-year/
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@jdemling: Pitino says he believes Moe Harkless will play for him on Puerto Rican national team.
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@WojYahooNBA Orlando is trading forward Moe Harkless to Portland for a future second-round pick, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
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Needs a fresh start. His early NBA career has been disappointing to say the least. This is a big-boys league. No one is going to hand you playing time. You have to earn it..
I feel like his passive nature has hurt him.
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Should have stayed in College.
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Should have stayed in College.
Disagree.. You are only looking at it from a pro- STJ viewpoint. He was a top half, 1st round pick after one season of college. You have to come out. Dumb not to in this day and age. $$ is too good.
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Should have stayed in College.
Disagree.. You are only looking at it from a pro- STJ viewpoint. He was a top half, 1st round pick after one season of college. You have to come out. Dumb not to in this day and age. $$ is too good.
And its easy to forget about a 15th overall pick in the nba. If he would have stayed his sophomore he could have been a top 5 pick (see Otto Porter) and he would be a much bigger investment. Can't go wrong taking home a few mill though.
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Should have stayed in College.
Disagree.. You are only looking at it from a pro- STJ viewpoint. He was a top half, 1st round pick after one season of college. You have to come out. Dumb not to in this day and age. $$ is too good.
And its easy to forget about a 15th overall pick in the nba. If he would have stayed his sophomore he could have been a top 5 pick (see Otto Porter) and he would be a much bigger investment. Can't go wrong taking home a few mill though.
Could have been an 11th pick the next year too - and how does it shake out then? Just one less year of earning power.
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Should have stayed in College.
Disagree.. You are only looking at it from a pro- STJ viewpoint. He was a top half, 1st round pick after one season of college. You have to come out. Dumb not to in this day and age. $$ is too good.
And its easy to forget about a 15th overall pick in the nba. If he would have stayed his sophomore he could have been a top 5 pick (see Otto Porter) and he would be a much bigger investment. Can't go wrong taking home a few mill though.
Could have been an 11th pick the next year too - and how does it shake out then? Just one less year of earning power.
True but we both saw moe and Otto as freshmen. The next year Otto was nearly the national player of the year. I dont think there was gonna be anyway he was better then moe as sophomores.
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The problem with the "should have stayed in college" mindset is that it is now a disadvantage in terms of draft stock to be a 22 year old senior rather than a 19/20 year old freshman/soph.
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The moment Tobias was brought into Orlando, it was apparent that Moe wasn't going to have a long term future with the Magic. He was in Jacque Vaughn's dog house for the entirety of last season, which crippled his exposure, but everyone still knows his potential at 22. When you factor in Tobias' near max deal recently, coupled with he and Scott Skiles being paired together again, Moe was really on the outs.
This is a blessing and opportunity for him, and I believe that he'll emerge with the available playing time. Portland could be the worst team in the NBA next season, and he could/should eventually beat out Al Faruq-Aminu to be the every day starter from Day 1 in a contract year.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/por/portland-trail-blazers
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I'll never understand why he was in the doghouse.
The last couple of podcasts Bill Simmons did before leaving ESPN with Zack Lowe he would always mention how a team would end up fleecing the Magic for him in a trade. Welp looks like Portland did the deed. I expect nothing but a great year from him out west.
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Should have stayed in College.
Disagree.. You are only looking at it from a pro- STJ viewpoint. He was a top half, 1st round pick after one season of college. You have to come out. Dumb not to in this day and age. $$ is too good.
And its easy to forget about a 15th overall pick in the nba. If he would have stayed his sophomore he could have been a top 5 pick (see Otto Porter) and he would be a much bigger investment. Can't go wrong taking home a few mill though.
Could have been an 11th pick the next year too - and how does it shake out then? Just one less year of earning power.
I reality it is only one less year if he retires due to old age. If his career ends up 5-10 years or so what difference does it make when he started it.
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Should have stayed in College.
Disagree.. You are only looking at it from a pro- STJ viewpoint. He was a top half, 1st round pick after one season of college. You have to come out. Dumb not to in this day and age. $$ is too good.
And its easy to forget about a 15th overall pick in the nba. If he would have stayed his sophomore he could have been a top 5 pick (see Otto Porter) and he would be a much bigger investment. Can't go wrong taking home a few mill though.
Could have been an 11th pick the next year too - and how does it shake out then? Just one less year of earning power.
True but we both saw moe and Otto as freshmen. The next year Otto was nearly the national player of the year. I dont think there was gonna be anyway he was better then moe as sophomores.
It goes both ways. The expecations are so much higher for a soph than a freshman. Moe's was raw and his greatest NBA assets were his height/length and skill potential. He would have really had to deliver as a soph. I'm not saying that he couldn't.
One thing I am convinced about is that had Sampson qualified in 2011, Moe would not have been nearly as attractive of a draft pick. Sampson is clearly the better athlete and he would have cut into Moe's stats.
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Harkless injured his ankle while practicing with the Puerto Rican national team, forcing him to fly back to Portland for further evaluation. Here's what the Puerto Rican national team's associate director Joel Katz had to say:
"However, Katz was adamant that Harkless’ trip to Portland isn’t a guarantee that Harkless won’t play in the Olympic qualifier which begins this upcoming Monday in Mexico. 'It’s not that his participation is in doubt, but we need clearance from the Trail Blazers. Once they evaluate him, it will be determined whether he can participate in the qualifier', said Katz."
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/portland-trail-blazers-moe-harkless-082615
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It's a gamble to go, and it's a gamble to stay. He clearly wasn't ready to play in the league, but you can't argue with automatic money for your family when your family really needs it. He fooled me. I would never have taken him in the first round.
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Not saying he shouldn't have grabbed the money - I think the kid made the right call given that he was a guarantee mid-first round pick that year -- but had Mo returned, I think he would have been a top 5/8 pick in the following season's draft.
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Not saying he shouldn't have grabbed the money - I think the kid made the right call given that he was a guarantee mid-first round pick that year -- but had Mo returned, I think he would have been a top 5/8 pick in the following season's draft.
Oh I know. He could have probably gone even higher in the draft. Lavin did an excellent job bringing in talent that year. He did an equally horrible job not following through on the details to make sure that talent arrived and played. Had Jakarr, Norvelle and Garret all suited up from day 1, we would not have had two players taking 22 shots a game, and Harkless would have been just another promising freshman instead of a guy who dropped 28 in a blow out loss.
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. . . and Harkless would have been just another promising freshman instead of a guy who dropped 28 in a blow out loss.
Excellent point.
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but had Mo returned, I think he would have been a top 5/8 pick in the following season's draft.
Or scouts would have had another year to asses his ability and he could have fallen lower. He made the right decision for him and his family.
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And just think how good they would have been that next year if Harkless and Dunlap had stayed. It would have gotten Lavin into the next recruiting cycle because other coaches would not have been able to "negative recruit" on him.
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but had Mo returned, I think he would have been a top 5/8 pick in the following season's draft.
Agreed - hence why the first part of my post said he made the right call taking the $$
Or scouts would have had another year to asses his ability and he could have fallen lower. He made the right decision for him and his family.
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Not saying he shouldn't have grabbed the money - I think the kid made the right call given that he was a guarantee mid-first round pick that year -- but had Mo returned, I think he would have been a top 5/8 pick in the following season's draft.
Oh I know. He could have probably gone even higher in the draft. Lavin did an excellent job bringing in talent that year. He did an equally horrible job not following through on the details to make sure that talent arrived and played. Had Jakarr, Norvelle and Garret all suited up from day 1, we would not have had two players taking 22 shots a game, and Harkless would have been just another promising freshman instead of a guy who dropped 28 in a blow out loss.
That was an exceptional class from an nba perspective -- a first rounder, a second rounder, and an undrafted guy who played 70+ games as a rookie. and that doesn't even include harrison! what could have been
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Yesterday's Oregonian article on Moe:
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2015/10/moe_harkless_relaxed_confident_with_more_freedom_i.html#incart_river
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Not saying he shouldn't have grabbed the money - I think the kid made the right call given that he was a guarantee mid-first round pick that year -- but had Mo returned, I think he would have been a top 5/8 pick in the following season's draft.
Oh I know. He could have probably gone even higher in the draft. Lavin did an excellent job bringing in talent that year. He did an equally horrible job not following through on the details to make sure that talent arrived and played. Had Jakarr, Norvelle and Garret all suited up from day 1, we would not have had two players taking 22 shots a game, and Harkless would have been just another promising freshman instead of a guy who dropped 28 in a blow out loss.
That was an exceptional class from an nba perspective -- a first rounder, a second rounder, and an undrafted guy who played 70+ games as a rookie. and that doesn't even include harrison! what could have been
On paper, I thought the Mo and Company recruiting class was the best ever in terms of quantity of talent. Repeat, on paper! Second came the Mel Davis and Bill Schaeffer recruiting class.
Of course, we all know what happened to Coach Lavin's first full recruiting class. All that glitters was not gold. Eligibility questions, Rise Academy, early departures, baseball, and head cases took their toll on that class. Too bad!
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Moe had a strong game last night recording 8 and 9. He's in the Blazers starting lineup again tn on NBATV against the Lakers. Looking great.
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http://www.nba.com/blazers/news/comfortable-and-confident-harkless-turning-out-be-steal-portland?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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http://www.nba.com/blazers/news/comfortable-and-confident-harkless-turning-out-be-steal-portland?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Can't believe the Knicks went for O'Quinn instead of Harkless. Both good and both under utilized by the horrible Magic regime but in the long run I believe Harkless has star potential.
Portland straight up robbed those dumbasses.
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Harkless is having a nice run over the last few weeks...
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2016/02/moe_harkless_has_emerged_as_a_game_changer_for_the.html#incart_river_index
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He's been playing more and shockingly given minutes he's contributed a ton. Blazers could make the playoffs.
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14-4-2, 25 minutes in a start last night as the Blazers continue to solidify their postseason birth.
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Moe continuing to surge as Blazers head into the playoffs. Could be assigned to contain KD in the first round:
Trail Blazers' Maurice Harkless: Pitches in with 16 points in another start Saturday Maurice Harkless pitched in with 16 points (5-9 FG, 1-3 3Pt, 5-7 FT), eight rebounds, an assist, a steal and a block over 30 minutes in Saturday's 108-105 victory over the Sixers.
Harkless has now posted double-digit scoring in his three consecutive starts, as he continues to make a case for remaining in the starting five over Noah Vonleh as the season winds down. He was solid on the glass as well, managing eight boards for the second consecutive contest.
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Orlando gave Harkless up for a second round pick. Those nice persons lol
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Keep it up Moe!
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What would the starting 5 had been if Harkless came back for soph season?
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What would the starting 5 had been if Harkless came back for soph season?
Phil
Dlo
Moe
Jakarr
dom/amir/obekpa
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Great interview:
The all-around play of @Moe_Harkless has helped propel the exciting Blazers team. Our Q+A with Portland's 4-man: http://slam.ly/JciRVx
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Harkless went for 20 points with 16 rebounds tonight... He's on a really nice roll...
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Harkless went for 20 points with 16 rebounds tonight... He's on a really nice roll...
Still so young too. He's only 10 months older than Kris Dunn!
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Harkless went for 20 points with 16 rebounds tonight... He's on a really nice roll...
Hope he finds a nice place for himself in Portland. Great city. They love their hoops.
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Averaging 14 ppg while in the starting lineup. He's going to get a ton of national exposure throughout the NBA playoffs. It appears that Moe's time has finally come in the NBA, he's received his opportunity and is capitalizing on it.
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I know a kid who works for the Trailblazers, says can't find a more class act than Moe!
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Is he doing that much better then Sampson?
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Is he doing that much better then Sampson?
Don't know - but he's doing it for a playoff team. A first for Hollywood's new wave of Johnny Nba'ers.
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Is he doing that much better then Sampson?
When comparing Moe and Jak, they're numbers are astoundingly similar. Both are their teams starting forward. Moe has to dramatically improve his free throw and 3 pt percentage, as does Jak. Both average about 6/3 and are defensive specialists early in their respective careers...but Moe has had a much better year especially of late where he's blossoming.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sampsja02.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harklma01.html
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Is he doing that much better then Sampson?
Sampson has gotten more consistent minutes over the past 2 years but rarely has double digit scoring games. In fairness, doesn't get a lot of shots. With that in mind, he must be doing the intangibles well to still be getting time.
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https://viralstyle.com/sean-davis9/maurice-harkless?utm_source=pgfan#pid=1&cid=3785054&sid=front
A poster here may want to pursue some legal action :)
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https://viralstyle.com/sean-davis9/maurice-harkless?utm_source=pgfan#pid=1&cid=3785054&sid=front
A poster here may want to pursue some legal action :)
Oh snap!
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Moe has 17 and 9 midway through the 3Q in a pivotal Game 5, the game's leading scorer. His breakout in the NBA has been realized this month and he's been shining in this series.
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19Pts and 10Rbs only 1 TO , to finish off a great night! :up:
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Monster game. Screw the Knicks for not sending the Magic the bag of balls that could have landed them Harkless. 19 and 10!
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Moe is gonna get paid some serious money this summer. This just goes to show you it's about where you play and opportunity. He never would have had a chance to make the cash he's about to if he stayed in Orlando. Fell into a perfect situation and hopefully has the smarts to stay and play with those elite guards.
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Moe is a restricted free agent this summer. Portland has the cap space, but might want to allocate funds towards CJ McCollum's big pay day next offseason. Nevertheless, he's going to get a sizeable offer from someone this summer, and it will be up to Portland to match. This offseason has the new kicker in the NBA's collective bargaining agreement, where the salary cap explodes due to the ESPN/Turner TV contract. Moe has earned himself millions over the past six months.
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Why would we want him to be a Knick? Don't we like Harkless?
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I think he's going to crank in like 4 years 50 million. Pretty crazy considering he's still a pretty crappy shooter. Best thing he's done this playoff is when he was guarding CP3. Didn't do a great job but showed his versatility. Curious to see how he does next round (assuming they win) vs Barnes, Green, Thompson or whomever else they decide to throw him to.
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Just goes to show how dumb GMs are. Orlando drafts him in the first round knowing he'll need some time to become a solid contributor in the NBA, is upset when he doesn't contribute right away, and then trade him away just before his potential is realized. NBA GM's, like many of our fans, have no patience when it comes to player development even when they know (or should know) that certain guys need time.
That said, I don't follow the NBA at all and don't know what Orlando's situation was like when they traded him. Whatever it was though, trading a former 1st round pick who is just now reaching his potential for a 2nd rounder is dumb
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Just goes to show how dumb GMs are. Orlando drafts him in the first round knowing he'll need some time to become a solid contributor in the NBA, is upset when he doesn't contribute right away, and then trade him away just before his potential is realized. NBA GM's, like many of our fans, have no patience when it comes to player development even when they know (or should know) that certain guys need time.
That said, I don't follow the NBA at all and don't know what Orlando's situation was like when they traded him. Whatever it was though, trading a former 1st round pick who is just now reaching his potential for a 2nd rounder is dumb
Moe was actually drafted by the 76ers and then traded to Orlando in the Dwight Howard trade.
And as for the Magic's treatment of Moe, Jacque Vaughn had him glued and tied down to the bench. He just didn't like Moe for some reason. And that lead the GM to trade him for peanuts.
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Moe having a career year in nearly all categories. Already a lock down defender, he's really coming along offensively.
http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6591/maurice-harkless
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Moe having a career year in nearly all categories. Already a lock down defender, he's really coming along offensively.
http://www.espn.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6591/maurice-harkless
sorry but 10 points per game for a starter on an under five-hundred team is not exactly lighting it up but for an ex St. John's player it is HOF numbers.
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Way to work that bonus 👍
http://deadspin.com/actually-moe-harkless-is-the-mvp-1794293234?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
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Actually i find it a selfish act and not at all team oriented but i guess that is to be expected in today's day and age. Guess because he is an ex-Johnnie he gets a pass.
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Actually i find it a selfish act and not at all team oriented but i guess that is to be expected in today's day and age. Guess because he is an ex-Johnnie he gets a pass.
They already secured the 8 seed. Nothing could change. Also, if the GM was good he could tell Mo he would honor the bonus and for him to go play however he wants tonight.
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Actually i find it a selfish act and not at all team oriented but i guess that is to be expected in today's day and age. Guess because he is an ex-Johnnie he gets a pass.
Oh you wouldn't do it?
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Actually i find it a selfish act and not at all team oriented but i guess that is to be expected in today's day and age. Guess because he is an ex-Johnnie he gets a pass.
That would have been a good move by the GM but since he didn't do it play the game straight up with first priority to win. Wasn't just one game but a series of games. Oh well, I guess the quaint notion to play to win the game is a thing of the past. Used to be huge Knick and NBA fan until this year when all the BS finally totally during me off.
They already secured the 8 seed. Nothing could change. Also, if the GM was good he could tell Mo he would honor the bonus and for him to go play however he wants tonight.
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Actually i find it a selfish act and not at all team oriented but i guess that is to be expected in today's day and age. Guess because he is an ex-Johnnie he gets a pass.
That would have been a good move by the GM but since he didn't do it play the game straight up with first priority to win. Wasn't just one game but a series of games. Oh well, I guess the quaint notion to play to win the game is a thing of the past. Used to be huge Knick and NBA fan until this year when all the BS finally totally during me off.
They already secured the 8 seed. Nothing could change. Also, if the GM was good he could tell Mo he would honor the bonus and for him to go play however he wants tonight.
Moe not taking and missing a few threes might have ended up winning them a few games.
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Actually i find it a selfish act and not at all team oriented but i guess that is to be expected in today's day and age. Guess because he is an ex-Johnnie he gets a pass.
That would have been a good move by the GM but since he didn't do it play the game straight up with first priority to win. Wasn't just one game but a series of games. Oh well, I guess the quaint notion to play to win the game is a thing of the past. Used to be huge Knick and NBA fan until this year when all the BS finally totally during me off.
They already secured the 8 seed. Nothing could change. Also, if the GM was good he could tell Mo he would honor the bonus and for him to go play however he wants tonight.
Moe not taking and missing a few threes might have ended up winning them a few games.
He hasn't shot one in the last 4 games (one he did not play in). They won all three games except the last one against New Orleans but once again the game didn't matter.
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Actually i find it a selfish act and not at all team oriented but i guess that is to be expected in today's day and age. Guess because he is an ex-Johnnie he gets a pass.
That would have been a good move by the GM but since he didn't do it play the game straight up with first priority to win. Wasn't just one game but a series of games. Oh well, I guess the quaint notion to play to win the game is a thing of the past. Used to be huge Knick and NBA fan until this year when all the BS finally totally during me off.
They already secured the 8 seed. Nothing could change. Also, if the GM was good he could tell Mo he would honor the bonus and for him to go play however he wants tonight.
Moe not taking and missing a few threes might have ended up winning them a few games.
He hasn't shot one in the last 4 games (one he did not play in). They won all three games except the last one against New Orleans but once again the game didn't matter.
If the game doesn't matter than don't show up and don't play. If you bother to show up and do play than play to win the damn game short of killing yourself of course.
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Sheesh. You bust your balls in college making no money and come up into the NBA rank. Some nice person writes a clause like that in you contract that is worth 500k (don't know you celts but I think it's a shit ton of extra money for most people) and he supposed to win a meaningless game and lose 500k. Shit, I would do it over and over again. How long do you think MO's shelf life is. He's got another 3-6 years of making big money so he should take that 500k. Why would you put that in a contract. Performance based contracts work both ways so I'm glad he took advantage.
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Sheesh. You bust your balls in college making no money and come up into the NBA rank. Some nice person writes a clause like that in you contract that is worth 500k (don't know you celts but I think it's a shit ton of extra money for most people) and he supposed to win a meaningless game and lose 500k. Shit, I would do it over and over again. How long do you think MO's shelf life is. He's got another 3-6 years of making big money so he should take that 500k. Why would you put that in a contract. Performance based contracts work both ways so I'm glad he took advantage.
100%. 500k is on the line. No one is shooting that 3...
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Sheesh. You bust your balls in college making no money and come up into the NBA rank. Some nice person writes a clause like that in you contract that is worth 500k (don't know you celts but I think it's a shit ton of extra money for most people) and he supposed to win a meaningless game and lose 500k. Shit, I would do it over and over again. How long do you think MO's shelf life is. He's got another 3-6 years of making big money so he should take that 500k. Why would you put that in a contract. Performance based contracts work both ways so I'm glad he took advantage.
100%. 500k is on the line. No one is shooting that 3...
Well I'm just not going to celebrate and applaud him for it. You guys can go to games and cheer way to go passing up that three, or great move passing up that layup and passing back to a teammate to try for that assist to pad your assist stats.
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Sheesh. You bust your balls in college making no money and come up into the NBA rank. Some nice person writes a clause like that in you contract that is worth 500k (don't know you celts but I think it's a shit ton of extra money for most people) and he supposed to win a meaningless game and lose 500k. Shit, I would do it over and over again. How long do you think MO's shelf life is. He's got another 3-6 years of making big money so he should take that 500k. Why would you put that in a contract. Performance based contracts work both ways so I'm glad he took advantage.
100%. 500k is on the line. No one is shooting that 3...
Well I'm just not going to celebrate and applaud him for it. You guys can go to games and cheer way to go passing up that three, or great move passing up that layup and passing back to a teammate to try for that assist to pad your assist stats.
If you don't like it, blame the management for putting it in his contract. He's doing his job, and his employer incentivized him to not take that three, so he didn't do it. Simple as that.
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There have been rumors about the Knicks looking to acquire one of Portland's 3 first round picks this year. Portland is trying to unload contracts and it looks like Moe has been discussed as possibly being involved. Would be cool to have him come home and play at the Garden again.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19513139/new-york-knicks-discuss-trade-portland-trail-blazers-first-round-pick
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There have been rumors about the Knicks looking to acquire one of Portland's 3 first round picks this year. Portland is trying to unload contracts and it looks like Moe has been discussed as possibly being involved. Would be cool to have him come home and play at the Garden again.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19513139/new-york-knicks-discuss-trade-portland-trail-blazers-first-round-pick
Moe has one of the best contracts on that roster. He's a steal at 40M. For Knick fans that article is simply click bait. They don't have the assets to acquire a 1st rounder besides Hernangomez, who they shouldn't deal.
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I thought it was clickbait to at first but if we could somehow get rid of melo and get moe and turner or crabbe and even the 26th pick it would be an amazing deal for the knicks. Unfortunately we are talking about the knicks...
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Portland is looking to shed cap to avoid a stiff luxury tax bill. Crabbe, Leonard, Aminu, Ezeli and Ed Davis all come off the bench and make more than him annually. Meanwhile Moe starts and makes significantly less, it's clickbait for NYers. I want him here as well trust me, but it's not going down.
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Yeah i dont think so either. I just hope there not looking to move KP. It would be nice if the knicks can get him and fleece someone for once though
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Sounds like there's a strong chance Harkless will be a Knick soon as part of the Melo trade. Poor guy
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Sounds like there's a strong chance Harkless will be a Knick soon as part of the Melo trade. Poor guy
Its not like Portland is gonna compete for a championship anytime soon. If Knicks can get Moe back in a melo trade then that is a steal for them as far as im concerned.
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Sounds like there's a strong chance Harkless will be a Knick soon as part of the Melo trade. Poor guy
Nothing against Portland, but who wouldn't rather play in NYC?
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Sounds like there's a strong chance Harkless will be a Knick soon as part of the Melo trade. Poor guy
Nothing against Portland, but who wouldn't rather play in NYC?
Portland isn't Oklahoma City, Indianapolis or Detroit.
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Can we add Part 5 to the title of this thread?
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Sounds like there's a strong chance Harkless will be a Knick soon as part of the Melo trade. Poor guy
Nothing against Portland, but who wouldn't rather play in NYC?
Portland isn't Oklahoma City, Indianapolis or Detroit.
This could be a first, Poison complimenting another city.
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Sounds like there's a strong chance Harkless will be a Knick soon as part of the Melo trade. Poor guy
Nothing against Portland, but who wouldn't rather play in NYC?
Portland isn't Oklahoma City, Indianapolis or Detroit.
This could be a first, Poison complimenting another city.
It could be, but it isn't. I've ripped Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Oklahoma City because they're trash bags. Portland isn't.
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I'm glad I brought it up
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If the Knicks were willing to take on Meyers Leonard contract he'd already be a Knick.
Looks like that ship has sailed though unless a 4th team actually thinks Leonard just needs a change of scenery.
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Sounds like there's a strong chance Harkless will be a Knick soon as part of the Melo trade. Poor guy
Nothing against Portland, but who wouldn't rather play in NYC?
Portland isn't Oklahoma City, Indianapolis or Detroit.
This could be a first, Poison complimenting another city.
It could be, but it isn't. I've ripped Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Oklahoma City because they're trash bags. Portland isn't.
Most strip clips per capita in the US.
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Sounds like there's a strong chance Harkless will be a Knick soon as part of the Melo trade. Poor guy
Nothing against Portland, but who wouldn't rather play in NYC?
Portland isn't Oklahoma City, Indianapolis or Detroit.
This could be a first, Poison complimenting another city.
It could be, but it isn't. I've ripped Cincinnati, Pittsburgh and Oklahoma City because they're trash bags. Portland isn't.
Most strip clips per capita in the US.
Mark the day. We agree on something!
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Melo for Harkless, Evan Turner, and Biggie Swanigan. Get it done.
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Melo for Harkless, Evan Turner, and Biggie Swanigan. Get it done.
Would do that in half a second. Is that what you heard or is that your own idea?
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Melo for Harkless, Evan Turner, and Biggie Swanigan. Get it done.
Would do that in half a second. Is that what you heard or is that your own idea?
That trade would destroy the Knicks. That Turner contract is god awful.
Portland is actually a crappy match for the Knicks now. Pre draft would have been great because they owned 3 first round picks. Now I don't know how to match things up unless other teams get in. Knicks would not take Turner who has 3 years 50+ million and Crabbe who has 3 years 56+ million when they just signed Hardway at same position.
I guess you could do Melo for Moe, Aminu, Vonleh and Ed Davis. Seems rather repetitive though and don't know if Portland would do that anyway.
Would be interesting to throw a team like Phoenix in the mix and try and snag Bledsoe.
Also hoping DRose wants to go to the Clippers and Knicks get Beverly back in a sign and trade.
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Melo for Harkless, Evan Turner, and Biggie Swanigan. Get it done.
Would do that in half a second. Is that what you heard or is that your own idea?
That trade would destroy the Knicks. That Turner contract is god awful.
Portland is actually a crappy match for the Knicks now. Pre draft would have been great because they owned 3 first round picks. Now I don't know how to match things up unless other teams get in. Knicks would not take Turner who has 3 years 50+ million and Crabbe who has 3 years 56+ million when they just signed Hardway at same position.
I guess you could do Melo for Moe, Aminu, Vonleh and Ed Davis. Seems rather repetitive though and don't know if Portland would do that anyway.
Would be interesting to throw a team like Phoenix in the mix and try and snag Bledsoe.
Also hoping DRose wants to go to the Clippers and Knicks get Beverly back in a sign and trade.
Knicks thin up front so I liked Swanigan as a third big with KP and Hernangomez. plus just really want to get rid of Melo. Nothing will be perfect.
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Melo for Harkless, Evan Turner, and Biggie Swanigan. Get it done.
Would do that in half a second. Is that what you heard or is that your own idea?
That trade would destroy the Knicks. That Turner contract is god awful.
Portland is actually a crappy match for the Knicks now. Pre draft would have been great because they owned 3 first round picks. Now I don't know how to match things up unless other teams get in. Knicks would not take Turner who has 3 years 50+ million and Crabbe who has 3 years 56+ million when they just signed Hardway at same position.
I guess you could do Melo for Moe, Aminu, Vonleh and Ed Davis. Seems rather repetitive though and don't know if Portland would do that anyway.
Would be interesting to throw a team like Phoenix in the mix and try and snag Bledsoe.
Also hoping DRose wants to go to the Clippers and Knicks get Beverly back in a sign and trade.
Knicks thin up front so I liked Swanigan as a third big with KP and Hernangomez. plus just really want to get rid of Melo. Nothing will be perfect.
Love Swanigan but he does not make enough to balance out deals. I want Melo gone too but this bs with him only wanting the Rockets isn't right. Hope he thinks about other teams.
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Looks like Melo might waive his no trade to Portland. Harkless might be a Knick after all.