6th Man of St. John's Basketball

St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: desco80 on July 19, 2014, 09:42:50 AM

Title: Bosnian big-man
Post by: desco80 on July 19, 2014, 09:42:50 AM
"St. John's will bolster its frontcourt this season with the addition of a 6-9 big man from Bosnia who can shoot, sources tell @SNYtv"

Per Zags
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Poison on July 19, 2014, 09:47:56 AM
Poor guy. He doesn't even have a name.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 19, 2014, 09:49:34 AM
"St. John's will bolster its frontcourt this season with the addition of a 6-9 big man from Bosnia who can shoot, sources tell @SNYtv"

Per Zags

Hopefully there are no eligibility issues if we land him, often a problem with foreign players.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 19, 2014, 09:58:31 AM
@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Lavin is in Bosnia this weekend to see a stretch 4 for this year's class per source. #sjubb

@AdamZagoria: St. John's lost Sampson, Sanchez & Achiuwa from the frontcourt, but now adds the Bosnian kid, Adonis Delarosa & Keith Thomas.All guards back
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: kingofk1ngs on July 19, 2014, 10:04:37 AM
"@AdamZagoria: St. John's will add 6-9 Amar Alibegovic of Bosnia for 2014, sources tell @SNYtv. Father Teo played with Gary Payton at Oregon State."
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 19, 2014, 10:05:55 AM
"@AdamZagoria: St. John's will add 6-9 Amar Alibegovic of Bosnia for 2014, sources tell @SNYtv. Father Teo played with Gary Payton at Oregon State."

@AdamZagoria: Give him this. Steve Lavin thinks outside the box. Every other high-major coach is here at Peach Jam and he's in Bosnia adding a 6-9 kid
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on July 19, 2014, 10:16:33 AM
"@AdamZagoria: St. John's will add 6-9 Amar Alibegovic of Bosnia for 2014, sources tell @SNYtv. Father Teo played with Gary Payton at Oregon State."

@AdamZagoria: Give him this. Steve Lavin thinks outside the box. Every other high-major coach is here at Peach Jam and he's in Bosnia adding a 6-9 kid

HAHA true
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: capmaker on July 19, 2014, 10:29:11 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=Amar+Alibegovic&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.yahoo:en-US:official&client=firefox&channel=sb (https://www.google.com/search?q=Amar+Alibegovic&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.yahoo:en-US:official&client=firefox&channel=sb)
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on July 19, 2014, 10:30:43 AM
Welcome aboard Amar!
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 19, 2014, 10:32:04 AM
Welcome aboard Amar!

Not so fast, this is SJU, lol;

@NYPost_Brazille: St John's is recruiting Serbian prospect Amar Alibegovic, a 6-9 forward but no commitment has been given per source. #sjubb
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 19, 2014, 10:33:56 AM
http://zagsblog.com/articles/st-johns-pursuing-6-9-bosnian-stretch-four/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/st-johns-pursuing-6-9-bosnian-stretch-four/)
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: desco80 on July 19, 2014, 10:43:45 AM
"@AdamZagoria: St. John's will add 6-9 Amar Alibegovic of Bosnia for 2014, sources tell @SNYtv. Father Teo played with Gary Payton at Oregon State."

@AdamZagoria: Give him this. Steve Lavin thinks outside the box. Every other high-major coach is here at Peach Jam and he's in Bosnia adding a 6-9 kid

That's the type of compliment Lavin usually gets from Otis.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: QuanMan on July 19, 2014, 01:26:38 PM
Now this is exciting.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: derk on July 19, 2014, 04:43:44 PM
Not yet
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on July 19, 2014, 10:51:57 PM
Welcome aboard Amar!

Not so fast, this is SJU, lol;

@NYPost_Brazille: St John's is recruiting Serbian prospect Amar Alibegovic, a 6-9 forward but no commitment has been given per source. #sjubb

lol of course. And Paultz your avatar gives me hope that this kid is a lefty.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: TONYD3 on July 19, 2014, 11:09:14 PM
I dont know what a stretch 4 is. But I want a tough guy playing the 4. I dont care how tall he is as long as he is strong. I dont want to see him block any shots. I want to see him box out.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: simplyred on July 20, 2014, 12:00:57 PM
I dont know what a stretch 4 is. But I want a tough guy playing the 4. I dont care how tall he is as long as he is strong. I dont want to see him block any shots. I want to see him box out.

Stretch 4:  Think Durant, Nowitzki.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Foad on July 20, 2014, 01:04:46 PM
I dont know what a stretch 4 is. But I want a tough guy playing the 4. I dont care how tall he is as long as he is strong. I dont want to see him block any shots. I want to see him box out.

Stretch 4:  Think Durant, Nowitzki.

Perhaps he'd be better off thinking Tyler Jones, Rodney Epperson, Mike Menniefield, Fred Hemphill, Paul Berwanger, and every other crappy 4 we've ever had than two of the better players on the planet.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: simplyred on July 20, 2014, 03:21:55 PM
I dont know what a stretch 4 is. But I want a tough guy playing the 4. I dont care how tall he is as long as he is strong. I dont want to see him block any shots. I want to see him box out.

Stretch 4:  Think Durant, Nowitzki.

Perhaps he'd be better off thinking Tyler Jones, Rodney Epperson, Mike Menniefield, Fred Hemphill, Paul Berwanger, and every other crappy 4 we've ever had than two of the better players on the planet.

I certainly wasn't comparing him to those players.  I was attempting to explain my understanding of the term "stretch 4."  (Although Durant may be more of a 3 than a 4...even at 6'11".
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 20, 2014, 03:31:04 PM
SL coming home or looking at other Euro players?

@SJUCoachLavin: Life On The Run! #Hammer2Rock #StJohnsInternationalBrand #NYC #CenterOfUniverse #GothamCityHoops #MeccaOfHoops http://t.co/FLTRaBdymx (http://t.co/FLTRaBdymx)
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Poison on July 21, 2014, 10:59:14 AM
I dont know what a stretch 4 is. But I want a tough guy playing the 4. I dont care how tall he is as long as he is strong. I dont want to see him block any shots. I want to see him box out.

Stretch 4:  Think Durant, Nowitzki.

Perhaps he'd be better off thinking Tyler Jones, Rodney Epperson, Mike Menniefield, Fred Hemphill, Paul Berwanger, and every other crappy 4 we've ever had than two of the better players on the planet.

Epperson wasn't so bad. And he wasn't a 4. He was a 3.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 21, 2014, 11:38:34 AM
"Sanders has been garnering a lot of attention from many DI programs. He has received offers from St. John’s, Temple, Seton Hall, and Manhattan. VCU, Minnesota, and Nebraska have also shown interest.

Nakye is very close with his family which could mean good news for St. John’s.

"Nakye has a tremendous support system around him. He lives with his mother and stepfather. He has a younger brother Donte who is in the 7th grade," Woodman said.

Adding a player with Sanders’s skill set would be a plus for the St. John’s program. Sanders might be undersized, but his motor and his versatility can make up for what he lacks in height.

His coach is very optimistic of his chances of succeeded at the next level, and he believes that Nakye will be able to play multiple positions in college.

"He continues to work on his ball handling and that will determine how far away from the basket he can play," Woodman said. "At 6’8", 225 pounds and only 16 he is certainly still growing. With that growth should come the distinction as to where his future would be. He would probably excel as a hybrid or a small forward or power forward."

It is difficult to make comparisons, but when thinking of Sanders one player that comes to mind is former St. Joseph’s forward, Halil Kanacevic. Kanacevic, who also hails from Staten Island, was a Swiss Army Knife for St. Joe’s. He was able to rebound, pass, and even knock down the three ball.

Sanders still has a lot of work ahead of him to reach that level of effectiveness. However, his future is very bright.

New York City’s Public School Athletic League (PSAL) was once regarded as one of the most competitive high school basketball leagues in the country, producing stars such as Bernard King, Lenny Wilkens, and Stephon Marbury. The PSAL has lost some of its luster, with players choosing to play in the Catholic league, or outside of the confines of New York City.

However, every couple of years there are a few players who remind people why the league is so special. St. John’s and Steve Lavin hope to have found one of these players in Tottenville High School’s Nakye Sanders."

Full article;

http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/7/21/5921975/st-johns-nakye-sanders-tottenville-offer-chat-coach-woodman (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2014/7/21/5921975/st-johns-nakye-sanders-tottenville-offer-chat-coach-woodman)
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Poison on July 21, 2014, 11:49:24 AM
Amar sounds a like Tomas Jasuloines. So, he's probably a really nice kid.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: derk on July 21, 2014, 11:54:25 AM
I dont know what a stretch 4 is. But I want a tough guy playing the 4. I dont care how tall he is as long as he is strong. I dont want to see him block any shots. I want to see him box out.

Stretch 4:  Think Durant, Nowitzki.

Perhaps he'd be better off thinking Tyler Jones, Rodney Epperson, Mike Menniefield, Fred Hemphill, Paul Berwanger, and every other crappy 4 we've ever had than two of the better players on the planet.

Epperson wasn't so bad. And he wasn't a 4. He was a 3.

Epperson had a sweet shot. Too bad he wasn't around long enough to develop for us. Knew how to get in the paint too.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: bball purist on July 21, 2014, 02:12:08 PM
SL coming home or looking at other Euro players?

@SJUCoachLavin: Life On The Run! #Hammer2Rock #StJohnsInternationalBrand #NYC #CenterOfUniverse #GothamCityHoops #MeccaOfHoops http://t.co/FLTRaBdymx (http://t.co/FLTRaBdymx)
Well, after giving Lavs some grief over not backing up his "international university" play when he came in, he is getting more serious overseas.  I know nothing about him, but at least we have a puncher's chance with his dad having played college ball. Let's hope it's a step up, not down on the talent level...  :up:
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Poison on July 21, 2014, 04:53:53 PM
SL coming home or looking at other Euro players?

@SJUCoachLavin: Life On The Run! #Hammer2Rock #StJohnsInternationalBrand #NYC #CenterOfUniverse #GothamCityHoops #MeccaOfHoops http://t.co/FLTRaBdymx (http://t.co/FLTRaBdymx)
Well, after giving Lavs some grief over not backing up his "international university" play when he came in, he is getting more serious overseas.  I know nothing about him, but at least we have a puncher's chance with his dad having played college ball. Let's hope it's a step up, not down on the talent level...  :up:

This kid seems like he's not at a BE, or possibly even a D1 level. We shouldn't be sweating this one out.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: desco80 on July 21, 2014, 09:40:22 PM
I have no idea whether this kid is good or not, and I don't fault coach for going to look at him.

But I think this shows that last cycle the staff didn't get the job done.   There's less than 90 days till the season starts and we're scrambling to find pieces, while every other high-major program is focused on 2015 or 2016 kids.   
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: SJU79 on July 21, 2014, 10:06:20 PM
They like this kid and think he's a baller, not a reach. No clue myself but they think he's legit
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Poison on July 21, 2014, 10:45:36 PM
They like this kid and think he's a baller, not a reach. No clue myself but they think he's legit

This is the staff that told us Marco Bourgault was the best pure sure shooter they ever coached. What would they say, he's just not very good, but f it, at least he'll get us some attention in the media.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: simplyred on July 21, 2014, 11:00:13 PM
There are a couple of guys on this board who still agree with that assessment of Marco.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: JohnnyJungle on July 22, 2014, 12:41:16 AM
From what I'm told is that he's skillful and a little more polished than Sanchez but not as dynamic. I don't know physically how he will play down low but if he can make shots efficiently when he's in the game this is a positive.

I wouldn't hold out thinking he's a stud.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Foad on July 22, 2014, 07:38:33 AM
more polished than Sanchez but not as dynamic.

Not as dynamic as Sanchez? Is he still animate?

Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: bball purist on July 22, 2014, 11:23:48 AM
SL coming home or looking at other Euro players?

@SJUCoachLavin: Life On The Run! #Hammer2Rock #StJohnsInternationalBrand #NYC #CenterOfUniverse #GothamCityHoops #MeccaOfHoops http://t.co/FLTRaBdymx (http://t.co/FLTRaBdymx)
Well, after giving Lavs some grief over not backing up his "international university" play when he came in, he is getting more serious overseas.  I know nothing about him, but at least we have a puncher's chance with his dad having played college ball. Let's hope it's a step up, not down on the talent level...  :up:

This kid seems like he's not at a BE, or possibly even a D1 level. We shouldn't be sweating this one out.
I will take your word for it.  As I mentioned in some earlier posts when Mykhailiuk popped up, I am surprised Coach wasn't after Cekovsky (Canaris A.) when the Terps got him.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: bball purist on July 22, 2014, 11:27:33 AM
From what I'm told is that he's skillful and a little more polished than Sanchez but not as dynamic. I don't know physically how he will play down low but if he can make shots efficiently when he's in the game this is a positive.

I wouldn't hold out thinking he's a stud.
Why didn't the staff go after Cekovsky?  They had to have known about him being aware that Willard was "living" at Canaris a few years back...why didn't we have a dog in that quiet race?
I have to question the staff's thoroughness on this one, unless I read something to the contrary.

Jon Rothstein called him a "steal" for MD:

From Testudo Times:

"After observing Maryland, who does Rothstein see as their starting five?"

"Early prediction on Maryland starting five --- Romelo Trimble, Dez Wells, Jake Layman, Evan Smotrycz, Michal Cekovsky....I think that's a pretty good guess. Rothstein said Cekovsky is a "steal" for Maryland and really thinks he can make an impact. With Reed recovering from his foot injury, I think that puts Cekovsky in an even better position to start at the beginning of the season. He will add a lot of height and length that Maryland has missed since Alex Len left for the NBA. And as Andrew noted in his piece about Cekovsky (http://www.testudotimes.com/2014/4/8/5591238/recruting-michal-cekovsky-reaction), he has a great face-up game, and moves extremely well with the ball, considering he's seven feet tall."

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/statuses/490972857875193856 (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/statuses/490972857875193856)
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Celtics11 on July 22, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
From what I'm told is that he's skillful and a little more polished than Sanchez but not as dynamic. I don't know physically how he will play down low but if he can make shots efficiently when he's in the game this is a positive.

I wouldn't hold out thinking he's a stud.
Why didn't the staff go after Cekovsky?  They had to have known about him being aware that Willard was "living" at Canaris a few years back...why didn't we have a dog in that quiet race?
I have to question the staff's thoroughness on this one, unless I read something to the contrary.

Jon Rothstein called him a "steal" for MD:

From Testudo Times:

"After observing Maryland, who does Rothstein see as their starting five?"

"Early prediction on Maryland starting five --- Romelo Trimble, Dez Wells, Jake Layman, Evan Smotrycz, Michal Cekovsky....I think that's a pretty good guess. Rothstein said Cekovsky is a "steal" for Maryland and really thinks he can make an impact. With Reed recovering from his foot injury, I think that puts Cekovsky in an even better position to start at the beginning of the season. He will add a lot of height and length that Maryland has missed since Alex Len left for the NBA. And as Andrew noted in his piece about Cekovsky (http://www.testudotimes.com/2014/4/8/5591238/recruting-michal-cekovsky-reaction), he has a great face-up game, and moves extremely well with the ball, considering he's seven feet tall."

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/statuses/490972857875193856 (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/statuses/490972857875193856)
Too busy scouting out the best restaurants to eat at rather than noticing the appropriate basketball players to recruit to SJU.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: bball purist on July 22, 2014, 02:07:37 PM
From what I'm told is that he's skillful and a little more polished than Sanchez but not as dynamic. I don't know physically how he will play down low but if he can make shots efficiently when he's in the game this is a positive.

I wouldn't hold out thinking he's a stud.
Why didn't the staff go after Cekovsky?  They had to have known about him being aware that Willard was "living" at Canaris a few years back...why didn't we have a dog in that quiet race?
I have to question the staff's thoroughness on this one, unless I read something to the contrary.

Jon Rothstein called him a "steal" for MD:

From Testudo Times:

"After observing Maryland, who does Rothstein see as their starting five?"

"Early prediction on Maryland starting five --- Romelo Trimble, Dez Wells, Jake Layman, Evan Smotrycz, Michal Cekovsky....I think that's a pretty good guess. Rothstein said Cekovsky is a "steal" for Maryland and really thinks he can make an impact. With Reed recovering from his foot injury, I think that puts Cekovsky in an even better position to start at the beginning of the season. He will add a lot of height and length that Maryland has missed since Alex Len left for the NBA. And as Andrew noted in his piece about Cekovsky (http://www.testudotimes.com/2014/4/8/5591238/recruting-michal-cekovsky-reaction), he has a great face-up game, and moves extremely well with the ball, considering he's seven feet tall."

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/statuses/490972857875193856 (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/statuses/490972857875193856)
Too busy scouting out the best restaurants to eat at rather than noticing the appropriate basketball players to recruit to SJU.
Funny one ... On that note, some of coaches look like they could use some serious workouts and shed a few, say 25+ lbs.  I recall fball coach Friedgen at UMD getting grief for not looking the part.  I kind of cringed when I saw a recent Peach Jam photo.  Some coaches be housin'...I love 'em, but I want the staff to have every edge they can get recruiting-wise...no schmediums there, but at least be a solid XL...
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: 0404 on July 22, 2014, 07:08:52 PM
more polished than Sanchez but not as dynamic.

Not as dynamic as Sanchez? Is he still animate?



lmfao
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: bball purist on July 23, 2014, 03:04:51 PM
Following up my comment concerning some of the staff shedding some pounds and getting in better shape:


Ironically, I just saw what Alford (of all coaches) has been doing:



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2137761-steve-alford-quickly-turning-the-tide-for-ucla-basketball?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-basketball (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2137761-steve-alford-quickly-turning-the-tide-for-ucla-basketball?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-basketball)


"LAS VEGAS — Multiple times each week, the Varsity Club meets in the Pauley Pavilion weight room.
Some days it’s a cardio workout on the treadmill or stationary bike. Other times they pump iron or focus on their core. The group only has four members, but UCLA coach Steve Alford (http://bleacherreport.com/steve-alford) and his three assistants don’t hesitate to boast about their fitness accomplishments when the Bruins players straddle in for their own session an hour later.

“They call themselves the Varsity Club and tell us we’re the Junior Varsity Club! Can you believe that?” point guard Norman Powell said in a phone interview. “They think they’re so funny, teasing with us about how they can lift more than we can. They know it’s not true. “They’re just a bunch of old men.”
Powell chuckled.
“That’s what we love about Coach Alford,” he said. “He’s intense and demanding on the court but a great guy off of it. With him, we get the best of both worlds.”

Indeed, one year since hiring Alford to replace Ben Howland, things couldn’t be working out any better for UCLA."
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: JohnnyJungle on July 24, 2014, 12:14:19 AM
Saw some raw footage of him tonight. Can elevate a bit, looked comfortable with ball in hands, and can stroke it.  Has all 4 years of eligibility.

Comparison: Tom Gugilotta
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 24, 2014, 08:03:51 AM
Saw some raw footage of him tonight. Can elevate a bit, looked comfortable with ball in hands, and can stroke it.  Has all 4 years of eligibility.

Comparison: Tom Gugilotta

Not shabby. Get him for a few years & this is a nice addition. Kudos to Lavin if this comes to fruition. Tom G was a very smart, talented player & son of a coach from Huntington area. We need an infusion of high basketball IQ kids in my opinion.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Foad on July 24, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Saw some raw footage of him tonight. Can elevate a bit, looked comfortable with ball in hands, and can stroke it.  Has all 4 years of eligibility.

Comparison: Tom Gugilotta

Not shabby. Get him for a few years & this is a nice addition. Kudos to Lavin if this comes to fruition. Tom G was a very smart, talented player & son of a coach from Huntington area. We need an infusion of high basketball IQ kids in my opinion.

Tom Gugilotta was the 6th pick in the NBA draft the year Sealy went 14th. For those of you scoring at home Gugilotta is now the third lottery pick to whom the player whose name no one knows has been compared.

Kudos to Lavin for finding a lottery pick where no one else was looking. Peach Jam? We don't need no steenkin Peach Jam.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 24, 2014, 08:21:12 AM
Saw some raw footage of him tonight. Can elevate a bit, looked comfortable with ball in hands, and can stroke it.  Has all 4 years of eligibility.

Comparison: Tom Gugilotta

Not shabby. Get him for a few years & this is a nice addition. Kudos to Lavin if this comes to fruition. Tom G was a very smart, talented player & son of a coach from Huntington area. We need an infusion of high basketball IQ kids in my opinion.

Tom Gugilotta was the 6th pick in the NBA draft the year Sealy went 14th. For those of you scoring at home Gugilotta is now the third lottery pick to whom the player whose name no one knows has been compared.

Kudos to Lavin for finding a lottery pick where no one else was looking. Peach Jam? We don't need no steenkin Peach Jam.

I think he meant styles are similar. Allegedly this kid can post up & step out for jumpers like Tom. Regarding substance, of course you can't compare them. Eli Wallach liked him btw. ;)
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Foad on July 24, 2014, 09:29:23 AM
Saw some raw footage of him tonight. Can elevate a bit, looked comfortable with ball in hands, and can stroke it.  Has all 4 years of eligibility.

Comparison: Tom Gugilotta

Not shabby. Get him for a few years & this is a nice addition. Kudos to Lavin if this comes to fruition. Tom G was a very smart, talented player & son of a coach from Huntington area. We need an infusion of high basketball IQ kids in my opinion.

Tom Gugilotta was the 6th pick in the NBA draft the year Sealy went 14th. For those of you scoring at home Gugilotta is now the third lottery pick to whom the player whose name no one knows has been compared.

Kudos to Lavin for finding a lottery pick where no one else was looking. Peach Jam? We don't need no steenkin Peach Jam.

I think he meant styles are similar. Allegedly this kid can post up & step out for jumpers like Tom. Regarding substance, of course you can't compare them. Eli Wallach liked him btw. ;)


Yes, I'm aware that no one is drawing a straight up comparison. I might have gone with Fred Lyson or John Hempel though. Allegedly players, allegedly shooters, no one's ever heard of them, unlikely to pan out in the long run. Hope I'm wrong of course. I saw a photo of what's his name on Bing and he kind of reminds me of John Havlicek - Hondo was a Czech not a Bosnian but it's same thing, nearly. We could use a Havlicek type to back up the other guy no one's ever seen play, I hear that guy's a Dennis Rodman clone. Between Havlicek and Rodman they got 17 rings, they'd definitely vault us over Xavier and Providence in the standings.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on July 24, 2014, 09:37:15 AM
Saw some raw footage of him tonight. Can elevate a bit, looked comfortable with ball in hands, and can stroke it.  Has all 4 years of eligibility.

Comparison: Tom Gugilotta

Not shabby. Get him for a few years & this is a nice addition. Kudos to Lavin if this comes to fruition. Tom G was a very smart, talented player & son of a coach from Huntington area. We need an infusion of high basketball IQ kids in my opinion.

Tom Gugilotta was the 6th pick in the NBA draft the year Sealy went 14th. For those of you scoring at home Gugilotta is now the third lottery pick to whom the player whose name no one knows has been compared.

Kudos to Lavin for finding a lottery pick where no one else was looking. Peach Jam? We don't need no steenkin Peach Jam.

I think he meant styles are similar. Allegedly this kid can post up & step out for jumpers like Tom. Regarding substance, of course you can't compare them. Eli Wallach liked him btw. ;)


Yes, I'm aware that no one is drawing a straight up comparison. I might have gone with Fred Lyson or John Hempel though. Allegedly players, allegedly shooters, no one's ever heard of them, unlikely to pan out in the long run. Hope I'm wrong of course. I saw a photo of what's his name on Bing and he kind of reminds me of John Havlicek - Hondo was a Czech not a Bosnian but it's same thing, nearly. We could use a Havlicek type to back up the other guy no one's ever seen play, I hear that guy's a Dennis Rodman clone. Between Havlicek and Rodman they got 17 rings, they'd definitely vault us over Xavier and Providence in the standings.

I agree that the recent Dennis Rodman / Thomas comparison  was nuts. Fair points!
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: pmg911 on July 24, 2014, 03:28:37 PM
Saw some raw footage of him tonight. Can elevate a bit, looked comfortable with ball in hands, and can stroke it.  Has all 4 years of eligibility.

Comparison: Tom Gugilotta

Not shabby. Get him for a few years & this is a nice addition. Kudos to Lavin if this comes to fruition. Tom G was a very smart, talented player & son of a coach from Huntington area. We need an infusion of high basketball IQ kids in my opinion.

Tom Gugilotta was the 6th pick in the NBA draft the year Sealy went 14th. For those of you scoring at home Gugilotta is now the third lottery pick to whom the player whose name no one knows has been compared.

Kudos to Lavin for finding a lottery pick where no one else was looking. Peach Jam? We don't need no steenkin Peach Jam.

I think he meant styles are similar. Allegedly this kid can post up & step out for jumpers like Tom. Regarding substance, of course you can't compare them. Eli Wallach liked him btw. ;)


Yes, I'm aware that no one is drawing a straight up comparison. I might have gone with Fred Lyson or John Hempel though. Allegedly players, allegedly shooters, no one's ever heard of them, unlikely to pan out in the long run. Hope I'm wrong of course. I saw a photo of what's his name on Bing and he kind of reminds me of John Havlicek - Hondo was a Czech not a Bosnian but it's same thing, nearly. We could use a Havlicek type to back up the other guy no one's ever seen play, I hear that guy's a Dennis Rodman clone. Between Havlicek and Rodman they got 17 rings, they'd definitely vault us over Xavier and Providence in the standings.

John Hempel. . was a great bouncing at Casey's on the Upper East side...
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Celtics11 on July 24, 2014, 03:56:40 PM
John Hempel-an outside shooter his first two years than transferred to SJU where Lou had him posting up and getting his shot blocked by the elbow of his defenders. He became so disenchanted with the way he was being used it looked like he played to lose in the NCAA T game where we lost a 10 point lead late to DePaul -what a heart breaker that was-took me two weeks to get out of a depression.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: pmg911 on July 25, 2014, 08:31:59 AM
John Hempel-an outside shooter his first two years than transferred to SJU where Lou had him posting up and getting his shot blocked by the elbow of his defenders. He became so disenchanted with the way he was being used it looked like he played to lose in the NCAA T game where we lost a 10 point lead late to DePaul -what a heart breaker that was-took me two weeks to get out of a depression.

Was that the game where Tyrone Corbin blatantly had a free throw line violation at the end of the game and snagged his own rebound and scored on put back..?

As for Hempel, he was very good at lower comp level but was awful when he moved up in comp...
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Foad on July 25, 2014, 08:53:25 AM

Was that the game where Tyrone Corbin blatantly had a free throw line violation at the end of the game and snagged his own rebound and scored on put back..?


I remember it being Dallas Comegys.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Foad on July 25, 2014, 08:56:50 AM

Was that the game where Tyrone Corbin blatantly had a free throw line violation at the end of the game and snagged his own rebound and scored on put back..?


I remember it being Dallas Comegys.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/16/sports/depaul-tops-redmen-overtime-georgetown-erases-15-point-lead-demons-tie-late-foul.html (http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/16/sports/depaul-tops-redmen-overtime-georgetown-erases-15-point-lead-demons-tie-late-foul.html)

Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: pmg911 on July 25, 2014, 10:04:35 AM

Was that the game where Tyrone Corbin blatantly had a free throw line violation at the end of the game and snagged his own rebound and scored on put back..?


I remember it being Dallas Comegys.

Yes,  you were correct...   my memory getting weaker as i get older..
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Marillac on July 25, 2014, 02:05:02 PM
Saw some raw footage of him tonight. Can elevate a bit, looked comfortable with ball in hands, and can stroke it.  Has all 4 years of eligibility.

Comparison: Tom Gugilotta

Oh c'mon!
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: fordham96 on July 25, 2014, 03:08:41 PM

Was that the game where Tyrone Corbin blatantly had a free throw line violation at the end of the game and snagged his own rebound and scored on put back..?


I remember it being Dallas Comegys.

Yes,  you were correct...   my memory getting weaker as i get older..

Actually I thought it was Rod Strickland.  The game was in 1987 NCAA 2nd round game and DePaul was playing on their home floor at the then called Rosemont Horizon.  They were a 3 seed SJU was a 6.  SJU had knocked off Wichita St 2 days prior on a Marco Baldi jumper, I think 62-60.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: QuanMan on July 25, 2014, 03:40:36 PM
What is the latest date that a student athlete can commit for first semester this year per the NCAA calendar?
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: pmg911 on July 25, 2014, 04:20:05 PM
What is the latest date that a student athlete can commit for first semester this year per the NCAA calendar?

Not sure there is a hard date in place for that but any potential student will have to be cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse and that takes time and foreign players tend to get a little more scrutiny then others.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: newsman13 on July 29, 2014, 07:21:41 AM

Was that the game where Tyrone Corbin blatantly had a free throw line violation at the end of the game and snagged his own rebound and scored on put back..?


I remember it being Dallas Comegys.

Yes,  you were correct...   my memory getting weaker as i get older..

That was the ref job of the century.  On topic, I see where the hammer to rock guy wrote this year's class is "stellar".  That sounds like he's wrapping things up and this kid isn't coming.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: Celtics11 on July 29, 2014, 01:07:17 PM

Was that the game where Tyrone Corbin blatantly had a free throw line violation at the end of the game and snagged his own rebound and scored on put back..?


I remember it being Dallas Comegys.

Yes,  you were correct...   my memory getting weaker as i get older..

That was the ref job of the century.  On topic, I see where the hammer to rock guy wrote this year's class is "stellar".  That sounds like he's wrapping things up and this kid isn't coming.
Disagree. If he is calling 2014 a stellar class there have to be at least two five star mystery recruits on the way by September.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: desco80 on July 29, 2014, 03:17:40 PM

Was that the game where Tyrone Corbin blatantly had a free throw line violation at the end of the game and snagged his own rebound and scored on put back..?


I remember it being Dallas Comegys.

Yes,  you were correct...   my memory getting weaker as i get older..

That was the ref job of the century.  On topic, I see where the hammer to rock guy wrote this year's class is "stellar".  That sounds like he's wrapping things up and this kid isn't coming.
Disagree. If he is calling 2014 a stellar class there have to be at least two five star mystery recruits on the way by September.

No, no.  You guys have it all wrong.
He's focusing on the 2016 class.   Everybody knows that's the class he's going all in on. 
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: carmineabbatiello on August 16, 2014, 12:26:15 AM
Newsday 8/14:

St. John's men's basketball is thinking big three. Recruits, that is.

The Red Storm announced the signing of 6-9 Bosnian forward Amar Alibegovic on Wednesday. He is the third big man added this summer after 6-11 center Adonis Delarosa (Christ The King) and 6-8 forward Keith Thomas (Mount Vernon) out of Westchester Community College.

Alibegovic, the No. 41 European prospect among 19-year-olds, competed on a Bosnia and Herzegovina national team that went 8-0 to win the Under-20 European Championship Division B in July. He averaged 5.1 points and 2.8 rebounds in the tournament and reached double figures three times.

"Amar has the skill, size and basketball intellect to help fuel our purposes as we continue to build our program into a sustainable winner," St. John's coach Steve Lavin said in a statement.

The son of former Oregon State hoops standout Teo Alibegovic also played with the Italian Stella Azzurra junior team, where he averaged 6.0 points and 3.3 rebounds, shooting 56.3 percent.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: hoyahooligan on August 18, 2014, 09:12:06 AM
Do we think there will be any eligibility concerns here? There often are in Euros.
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: paultzman on August 18, 2014, 10:32:25 AM
Do we think there will be any eligibility concerns here? There often are in Euros.

No
Title: Re: Bosnian big-man
Post by: prjohnnies on August 18, 2014, 10:32:31 AM
I believe that Fordham posted in another thread (or on another board) that there are no eligibility concerns.