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Title: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on May 21, 2008, 08:17:10 AM
It all but over. This bus is rollin to Nov.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 21, 2008, 12:51:55 PM
It all but over. This bus is rollin to Nov.

You mention a strong showing in Portland... 

But not the trouncing in Kentucky...

It will get very interesting for the Democratic Party once they decided what is to be done about Flroida & Michigan..?

I think Obama will get the nomination but he will lose the election...    middle America will not identify with his massively liberal politics and the Republicans, right or wrong, are going to kill him over Rev Wright and his admitted willingness to sit down with foreign leaders who have nothing but true and total hate for America....
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on May 21, 2008, 02:41:02 PM
It all but over. This bus is rollin to Nov.

You mention a strong showing in Portland... 

But not the trouncing in Kentucky...

It will get very interesting for the Democratic Party once they decided what is to be done about Flroida & Michigan..?

I think Obama will get the nomination but he will lose the election...    middle America will not identify with his massively liberal politics and the Republicans, right or wrong, are going to kill him over Rev Wright and his admitted willingness to sit down with foreign leaders who have nothing but true and total hate for America....


I'm not sure that America ready for Obama.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: peter on May 21, 2008, 02:55:19 PM
It all but over. This bus is rollin to Nov.

You mention a strong showing in Portland... 

But not the trouncing in Kentucky...

It will get very interesting for the Democratic Party once they decided what is to be done about Flroida & Michigan..?

I think Obama will get the nomination but he will lose the election...    middle America will not identify with his massively liberal politics and the Republicans, right or wrong, are going to kill him over Rev Wright and his admitted willingness to sit down with foreign leaders who have nothing but true and total hate for America....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/world/middleeast/22mideast.html?hp

If Israel and Syria can have talks, the US can talk too.  The era of "pre-emptive" attacks on leaders who hate the US just won't work - it's too costly.  And whether you think Obama's politics are overly liberal (likely not, if he gets his message across as opposed to being defined by Rev Wright or some other boogeyman idea of what his politics are), McCain has a LONG way to go to convince people that more years of going to war is palatable.  It might be realistic that we need a presence in Iraq, but no one will be convinced that McCain's straight talk will make the mission any more successful.

And as for the trouncings, republicans have learned the magic of focusing on the groups that matter to get the numbers to get their guys elected.  If Obama carries eastern and western states, and a few midwestern states, does he need Kentucky?  He might need PA or Ohio, but does he need W Va?
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on May 21, 2008, 02:57:21 PM
It all but over. This bus is rollin to Nov.

You mention a strong showing in Portland... 

But not the trouncing in Kentucky...

It will get very interesting for the Democratic Party once they decided what is to be done about Flroida & Michigan..?

I think Obama will get the nomination but he will lose the election...    middle America will not identify with his massively liberal politics and the Republicans, right or wrong, are going to kill him over Rev Wright and his admitted willingness to sit down with foreign leaders who have nothing but true and total hate for America....


PMG I hear what you are saying about liberal politics and foreign leaders but......Rev Wright??? Are you kidding me.....Rev Wright??? We all have Rev or Pastors at our own Establishments and what comes out of there mouths has nothing to do with you or me. If Wright wants to talk about his opinion on 911 etc. that's HIS OPINION not Obama's. In college did you always agree with your Professors lecturs in class....did you ever challenge them?? Now imagine a Professor stating Slavery for example was not as bad as history makes it out to be. Now you are in the audience when this occurs....you hear this.....now just because you are registered for that class...or because you sat in the audience....does that mean you believe slavery was not as bad as history makes it out to be????? No! That's the Professors opinion or perespective not yours.

If America blames Obama because of what Wright said/says then that just sad....and by the way the example regarding the Professor is a true story.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: JohnnyJungle on May 22, 2008, 12:36:23 AM

I'm not sure that America ready for Obama.

I'm not sure Obama is ready for America
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on May 22, 2008, 12:19:45 PM
mccain's pastor's worse...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/2...02892.html
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on May 22, 2008, 03:33:09 PM
mccain's pastor's worse...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/2...02892.html

This is their 15 minutes of fame.....for Obama's Pastor it's his hour and 15 minutes of fame.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 22, 2008, 03:52:48 PM
It all but over. This bus is rollin to Nov.

You mention a strong showing in Portland... 

But not the trouncing in Kentucky...

It will get very interesting for the Democratic Party once they decided what is to be done about Flroida & Michigan..?

I think Obama will get the nomination but he will lose the election...    middle America will not identify with his massively liberal politics and the Republicans, right or wrong, are going to kill him over Rev Wright and his admitted willingness to sit down with foreign leaders who have nothing but true and total hate for America....


PMG I hear what you are saying about liberal politics and foreign leaders but......Rev Wright??? Are you kidding me.....Rev Wright??? We all have Rev or Pastors at our own Establishments and what comes out of there mouths has nothing to do with you or me. If Wright wants to talk about his opinion on 911 etc. that's HIS OPINION not Obama's. In college did you always agree with your Professors lecturs in class....did you ever challenge them?? Now imagine a Professor stating Slavery for example was not as bad as history makes it out to be. Now you are in the audience when this occurs....you hear this.....now just because you are registered for that class...or because you sat in the audience....does that mean you believe slavery was not as bad as history makes it out to be????? No! That's the Professors opinion or perespective not yours.

If America blames Obama because of what Wright said/says then that just sad....and by the way the example regarding the Professor is a true story.

By no means am I saying the Republicans would be right but they will use it as a lightning rod topic... 

The one thing about Obama & the Rev..    Obama should have been much more proactive in denouncing the man's hatred for America & blatant lies...   

I would love to get him a room full of people who lost loved ones, like myself, on 9/11 and hear him try to give one of his hate filled sermons..


As for the country...   I think in this next election you will see the same basic results you saw in 2004..   the liberal leaning costs, espcecially the North east & California, will vote Democratic. . and middle Amercia will vote Republican...

Personally..  I stand up and admit I will be voting Republican...    but I honestly don't think that any of the 3 remaining candidates are qualified to be President of the United States..     none of them have governed anything in their politcal careers...    and of those 3..   Obama is with out a doubt the least qualified candidate...
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on May 22, 2008, 10:10:10 PM
Whoeva win, all I know is that the national nightmare gonna be ova come Jan. Least I hope. 
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on May 22, 2008, 10:31:30 PM
It all but over. This bus is rollin to Nov.

You mention a strong showing in Portland... 

But not the trouncing in Kentucky...

It will get very interesting for the Democratic Party once they decided what is to be done about Flroida & Michigan..?

I think Obama will get the nomination but he will lose the election...    middle America will not identify with his massively liberal politics and the Republicans, right or wrong, are going to kill him over Rev Wright and his admitted willingness to sit down with foreign leaders who have nothing but true and total hate for America....


PMG I hear what you are saying about liberal politics and foreign leaders but......Rev Wright??? Are you kidding me.....Rev Wright??? We all have Rev or Pastors at our own Establishments and what comes out of there mouths has nothing to do with you or me. If Wright wants to talk about his opinion on 911 etc. that's HIS OPINION not Obama's. In college did you always agree with your Professors lecturs in class....did you ever challenge them?? Now imagine a Professor stating Slavery for example was not as bad as history makes it out to be. Now you are in the audience when this occurs....you hear this.....now just because you are registered for that class...or because you sat in the audience....does that mean you believe slavery was not as bad as history makes it out to be????? No! That's the Professors opinion or perespective not yours.

If America blames Obama because of what Wright said/says then that just sad....and by the way the example regarding the Professor is a true story.

By no means am I saying the Republicans would be right but they will use it as a lightning rod topic... 

The one thing about Obama & the Rev..    Obama should have been much more proactive in denouncing the man's hatred for America & blatant lies...   

I would love to get him a room full of people who lost loved ones, like myself, on 9/11 and hear him try to give one of his hate filled sermons..


As for the country...   I think in this next election you will see the same basic results you saw in 2004..   the liberal leaning costs, espcecially the North east & California, will vote Democratic. . and middle Amercia will vote Republican...

Personally..  I stand up and admit I will be voting Republican...    but I honestly don't think that any of the 3 remaining candidates are qualified to be President of the United States..     none of them have governed anything in their politcal careers...    and of those 3..   Obama is with out a doubt the least qualified candidate...

It will be an interesting election.....I lost friends on 911 and I worked in the Deustche Bank building on the 11th floor....survived 911 because of a hair cut....I decided to cut my hair and go in late that morning. I have a few choice words for Rev Wright my damn self!!
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 23, 2008, 08:49:56 AM
Whoeva win, all I know is that the national nightmare gonna be ova come Jan. Least I hope. 

Can you please exaplin "national nightmare"..?
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: gray49 on May 23, 2008, 08:53:27 PM
Can you please exaplin "national nightmare"..?

Read the newspaper...
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: simplyred on May 23, 2008, 09:01:08 PM
Paid $4.19 a gallon last night... $72 to fill up.  Up almost $20 from a couple of months ago.  Its a nightmare.  And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on May 23, 2008, 10:31:33 PM
Whoeva win, all I know is that the national nightmare gonna be ova come Jan. Least I hope. 

Can you please exaplin "national nightmare"..?


8 year of trampling the constitution.
8 year of thinkin torture the way to go.
8 year and Osama still on the run.
8 year and the economy in the dink.
8 year later and Haliburton got itself a 22 percent profit margin.
8 year and our allies dont trust us.
8 year and we got mo enemies than ever befo.
8 year and the ghettoz getting worse by the min.
8 year later and it still hard fo a decent man to get hisself a self-respectin  job.
8 year and that smirk still the same.
8 year and 4,080 bodies later.
8 year and we all worse off than we ever been in my life.

Should I stop, yo?

Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 27, 2008, 08:54:14 PM
Whoeva win, all I know is that the national nightmare gonna be ova come Jan. Least I hope. 

Can you please exaplin "national nightmare"..?


8 year of trampling the constitution.
8 year of thinkin torture the way to go.
8 year and Osama still on the run.
8 year and the economy in the dink.
8 year later and Haliburton got itself a 22 percent profit margin.
8 year and our allies dont trust us.
8 year and we got mo enemies than ever befo.
8 year and the ghettoz getting worse by the min.
8 year later and it still hard fo a decent man to get hisself a self-respectin  job.
8 year and that smirk still the same.
8 year and 4,080 bodies later.
8 year and we all worse off than we ever been in my life.

Should I stop, yo?



8 year of trampling the constitution. - according to who..?

8 year of thinkin torture the way to go. -  its is when dealing with terroist..   do what ever you have to do to get the information...   these people want to destroy American's and American way of life..     they could kill them all and I could care less...

8 year and Osama still on the run.  - can't argue there but when he is hiding in a region between Afganistan * Pakistan that we can't access there is nothing we can do..    maybe if that Democratic stalwart Bill Clinto killed him when we had the chance we wouldn't even be having this conversation and all the people in the Twin Towers (including my brother) would still be alive...

8 year and the economy in the dink.  - maybe you think you know something about finance but if you don't think the economic problems facing America today were not started at end of the Clinton adminstration you are sadly mistaken...   the war made them worse...

8 year later and Haliburton got itself a 22 percent profit margin. - they were making money long before 8 years ago and will keep on going for years from now...

8 year and our allies dont trust us.  - please be a little more specific...   and if you call France a friend you are kidding yourself. .   these same allies that don't trust us will coming begging for big Bad George W if they ever got attacked..

8 year and we got mo enemies than ever befo. - and we are bringing democracy to an enitre region and we have removed one of the most vicious leaders in the history of the world from Iraq...

8 year and the ghettoz getting worse by the min. - the ghetto was bad long before George W and unfortunately it will probably not change anytime in the near future. . nothing the Democrats or the Republicans can do about it..

8 year later and it still hard fo a decent man to get hisself a self-respectin  job. - iam sorry but that is jusy not true...  and it alldepends on one's definition of self respecting..

8 year and that smirk still the same. - no clue what you mean...  but if uyou are talking about George Bush...     maybe walk a mile in man's shoes before you remotely judge the leader of the free world...

8 year and 4,080 bodies later. - the country is at war...    unforunately casualties are part of it...    how many died in Vietnam..?   Korea. ?   look it up and tell me what you think...

8 year and we all worse off than we ever been in my life.  - very sorry of you are. . but I am not..   I have a beautiful home..  two children on the way...    pay less taxes...  make more money then I ever have..

Choz..  I am sorry but you are sadly mistaken if you think this country will be better off and safer if Barack Obama is elected President of the United States...  I am not saying John McCain is the answer..      but Obama is not...   like I said before. .  he just isn't qualified at this time in his political career...

Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: erickthered on May 27, 2008, 09:15:54 PM
Choz please if you are going to comment on certain subjects please use spell check or make an honest attempt to speak and type in proper english. I respect your views however if you are going to make certain statements you should lead by example. My parents came here from another country and learned how to read, WRITE and speak proper ENGLISH.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: erickthered on May 27, 2008, 09:17:49 PM
And choz speak for yourself DO NOT include me when you state "we all worse of than eva before"
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: gray49 on May 27, 2008, 11:53:44 PM
Choz please if you are going to comment on certain subjects please use spell check or make an honest attempt to speak and type in proper english. I respect your views however if you are going to make certain statements you should lead by example. My parents came here from another country and learned how to read, WRITE and speak proper ENGLISH.

You might work on your sentence structure and punctuation...
Peace
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on May 28, 2008, 12:00:05 AM
Whoeva win, all I know is that the national nightmare gonna be ova come Jan. Least I hope. 

Can you please exaplin "national nightmare"..?


8 year and the ghettoz getting worse by the min.


no welfare checks? cmon choz, you sound ridiculous.

Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 28, 2008, 08:51:41 PM
Subject: Remember this picture on election day!
Let's all remember this on election day...if you have family serving in the military, make sure you send it along. I don't care for Hillary, but at least she shows respect for the country she lives in!
I had heard about this but a picture is definitely worth 1000 words! God save us!!!

apologies to the board..   while I have my own thoughts on the picture and Barack Obama..   the post was inflamatory and I should not have posted it...


***PMG (he was having trouble editing his own posts so I did it for him)
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on May 28, 2008, 08:55:06 PM
people do the pledge a different way.  why should we care about something as little as this?
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on May 28, 2008, 10:25:18 PM
Is that all you got??? You got to be kiding me! So we have Rev Wright's comments (words from another persons mouth) and the fact that one day Obama did not put his hand over his heart for the pledge = what? He is unAmerican? Please. Give me a break. Why DOES THIS MATTER? The fact that his hand is not over his heart (at this moment) means what?
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: gray49 on May 28, 2008, 11:22:55 PM
The picture of Obama is tame compared to the ugly picture of John McCain not showing up for the vote...And not supporting the New GI Bill of Rights...Raising money for his campaign being more important...An act of political cowardice...
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on May 28, 2008, 11:28:25 PM
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
-Samuel Johnson







No doubt.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 29, 2008, 07:23:58 AM
For me. . the picture just shows a lack of political experience...would it be so hard to just throw your hand over your heart and not cause a stir...   its is little things like that middle America clings to and that, unfortunately, certain Republicans will harp on over and over..   just like Reve Wright...

I have said I am not voting for Barack Obama. . and for it because I just don't think he is qualified to be Preseident of the United States and I don't think he is as committed to our national defense as he should be at this time...  I will vote for McCain because I think the county will be a safer place...  but I vote with a lot reservations about the man.. . the largest being his age...
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 29, 2008, 07:33:53 AM
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
-Samuel Johnson







No doubt.

Choz. . you really need to join the real world...  that quote is just ridiuclous and offends on so many levels...

Lets use the example of Pat Tillman. . do you know who he is..?   

In case not, let me tell you. .  he is the star NFL player who walked away from millions of dollars after 9/11 to go fight the war on terror...  and gave his life doing it...

He did it because he felt it was his patriotic duty. .  is he a scoundrel...?

NO DOUBT that when you make make comments like the one above..  I lose a ton of respect for you.....

Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on May 29, 2008, 08:12:51 AM
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
-Samuel Johnson







No doubt.

Choz. . you really need to join the real world...  that quote is just ridiuclous and offends on so many levels...

Lets use the example of Pat Tillman. . do you know who he is..?  

In case not, let me tell you. .  he is the star NFL player who walked away from millions of dollars after 9/11 to go fight the war on terror...  and gave his life doing it...

He did it because he felt it was his patriotic duty. .  is he a scoundrel...?

NO DOUBT that when you make make comments like the one above..  I lose a ton of respect for you.....



Read the quote again. This time slowly so it sink in. Flew ova yo head in the most obvious of fashions.

And like I say befor, son, I neva ask for or wanted yo respct. I cant say it anymo clearer: I dont care what you think bout me. It got no meanin in my life. We was neva boys. We was neva gonna be boys. Dag man, you like some girl actin all jilted and whatnot.



Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: HTGS_says_shutup on May 29, 2008, 08:56:07 AM
people do the pledge a different way.  why should we care about something as little as this?

you are the posterchild for why the voting age is 18 and up.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 29, 2008, 09:16:27 AM
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
-Samuel Johnson


Choz. . you really need to join the real world...  that quote is just ridiuclous and offends on so many levels...

Lets use the example of Pat Tillman. . do you know who he is..?  

In case not, let me tell you. .  he is the star NFL player who walked away from millions of dollars after 9/11 to go fight the war on terror...  and gave his life doing it...

He did it because he felt it was his patriotic duty. .  is he a scoundrel...?

NO DOUBT that when you make make comments like the one above..  I lose a ton of respect for you.....



Read the quote again. This time slowly so it sink in. Flew ova yo head in the most obvious of fashions.

And like I say befor, son, I neva ask for or wanted yo respct. I cant say it anymo clearer: I dont care what you think bout me. It got no meanin in my life. We was neva boys. We was neva gonna be boys. Dag man, you like some girl actin all jilted and whatnot.


The quote is a reference to false Patriotism...  I know what it means...

You are a walking contradiction man...    and the sad part is that you don't even realize it..

I will stop acting like "like some girl actin all jilted and whatnot" now...   

You have a nice day now..



Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Marco Baldi on May 29, 2008, 09:21:00 AM
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
-Samuel Johnson


Choz. . you really need to join the real world...  that quote is just ridiuclous and offends on so many levels...

Lets use the example of Pat Tillman. . do you know who he is..?  

In case not, let me tell you. .  he is the star NFL player who walked away from millions of dollars after 9/11 to go fight the war on terror...  and gave his life doing it...

He did it because he felt it was his patriotic duty. .  is he a scoundrel...?

NO DOUBT that when you make make comments like the one above..  I lose a ton of respect for you.....



Read the quote again. This time slowly so it sink in. Flew ova yo head in the most obvious of fashions.

And like I say befor, son, I neva ask for or wanted yo respct. I cant say it anymo clearer: I dont care what you think bout me. It got no meanin in my life. We was neva boys. We was neva gonna be boys. Dag man, you like some girl actin all jilted and whatnot.


The quote is a reference to false Patriotism...  I know what it means...

You are a walking contradiction man...    and the sad part is that you don't even realize it..

I will stop acting like "like some girl actin all jilted and whatnot" now...   

You have a nice day now..





For Choz and pmg911, what are your takes on "false patriotism"?
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on May 29, 2008, 09:48:43 AM
I am going refrain from further comment on this thread because I don't want to say something that anyone might remotely thinks comes across the wrong way...
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on May 29, 2008, 09:55:18 AM
people do the pledge a different way.  why should we care about something as little as this?

you are the posterchild for why the voting age is 18 and up.

yeah because when voting people should be really concerned about how they do the pledge of alligance.  i'm so immature i can't comprehend how it's important.  makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on May 29, 2008, 10:06:06 AM
For me. . the picture just shows a lack of political experience...would it be so hard to just throw your hand over your heart and not cause a stir...   its is little things like that middle America clings to and that, unfortunately, certain Republicans will harp on over and over..   just like Reve Wright...

I have said I am not voting for Barack Obama. . and for it because I just don't think he is qualified to be Preseident of the United States and I don't think he is as committed to our national defense as he should be at this time...  I will vote for McCain because I think the county will be a safer place...  but I vote with a lot reservations about the man.. . the largest being his age...

I respect your opinion on all of the above but all of the candidates have made mistakes durning their current runs for office. The article even states on other occassions Obama had his hand over his heart and recited the pledge. To me no big deal but that's my own personal view.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: kjd01067 on May 29, 2008, 10:53:38 AM
Ive been checking in on this thread almost everyday because this race interests me and i have enjoyed reading what all parties have had to say.  In my opinion none of the candidates are a homerun choice.  Being a democrat myself I would probably vote for Obama.  Thing is guys whoever the democrat candidate is (likely Obama) will win NY(electoral college).  I assume most people on this board live in NY so your vote has almost already been made for you, thats the problem with electoral college.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on May 29, 2008, 11:01:24 AM
Choz, gimme some of that you be smokin'?
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on May 29, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Quote:
Yesterday, in his big non-proliferation speech, McCain took his gaffes to a new level. He actually invented 20 years of negotiations between the United States and Tehran. In his speech, McCain said:


"Today, some people seem to think they've discovered a brand new cause, something no one before them ever thought of. Many believe all we need to do to end the nuclear programs of hostile governments is have our president talk with leaders in Pyongyang and Tehran, as if we haven't tried talking to these governments repeatedly over the past two decades."

McCain has clearly forgotten what Max Bergmann points out: The stated policy of the United States since April 7, 1980 has been that we don't talk to the Iranians. Never has the United States had communications, or tried to have communications, with the Iranian government on their nuclear program. Iran's nuclear communications have been limited to working through the European Union (led by France and Germany, countries John McCain has referred to as "vacuous" and "posturing").
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: HTGS_says_shutup on May 31, 2008, 11:24:44 AM
Whoeva win, all I know is that the national nightmare gonna be ova come Jan. Least I hope. 

Can you please exaplin "national nightmare"..?


8 year of trampling the constitution.
8 year of thinkin torture the way to go.
8 year and Osama still on the run.
8 year and the economy in the dink.
8 year later and Haliburton got itself a 22 percent profit margin.
8 year and our allies dont trust us.
8 year and we got mo enemies than ever befo.
8 year and the ghettoz getting worse by the min.
8 year later and it still hard fo a decent man to get hisself a self-respectin  job.
8 year and that smirk still the same.
8 year and 4,080 bodies later.
8 year and we all worse off than we ever been in my life.

Should I stop, yo?



GREAT MENTALITY ALL AROUND-- TAKE THE MAN'S MONEY WHO WORKS (PRODUCTIVE MAN) AND GIVE IT TO THE MAN WHO DOESN'T WORK(nON-PRODUCTIVE MAN).

THAT'S WHAT I CALL THE AMERICAN DREAM!! ::)
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on May 31, 2008, 05:17:36 PM
"The cost of liberty is less than the price of repression."

-W. E. B. Du Bois
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: jumpinjohnny on May 31, 2008, 06:27:42 PM
"Appeasement is feeding the dragon hoping he will eat you last."

 - Really Smart Man
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on May 31, 2008, 10:52:46 PM
      “It's Big East basketball. Big East basketball is that way. It's a physical game every time you play in the league.”

- a very good coach
 
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: mkras99 on June 01, 2008, 12:40:20 AM
"To be the best, you've got to beat the best. Wooo."

- Ric Flair
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on June 01, 2008, 08:54:38 PM
"To be the best, you've got to beat the best. Wooo."

- Ric Flair


Tha's mad funny, bre.
Bringin me back in the day when I was just a lil biddy in like '84 or sometin. My boys Rayshawn, Kokai and Ty would turn on Ch. 9 Saturdays when the WWF was goin strong. We'd all take the couch cushions out and put 'em on the floor and wrestle like we was on TV. Junkyard Dog was king, no doubt. But I always was down wit Superfly. Dude would leap from the top rope to do his thang. No one gonna escape that less you is Roddy Piper.
Just a lil shout out to all my Polynesian brothaz out there. Kei rua luka lanmo y rei! Keep it strong. Never let imperialism get ya down. Mea tyu togan!

-Choz4Life
   
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 01, 2008, 09:44:02 PM
The man right here

(http://www.westre.com/images/totspics/totshammer1.jpg)
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 03, 2008, 11:43:40 PM
obama clinched!

what a speech!!
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on June 04, 2008, 08:14:16 AM


It's been a long time comin, but I know a change gonna come.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on June 04, 2008, 09:00:58 AM
I am breaking my promise here..  but that's life..

Choz. . what has been a long time coming..?   that a black man is the party nominee for President..?

Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 04, 2008, 10:11:32 AM
i'm sure he meant a long time coming for him to win the nomination.  he has been leading for a while now.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on June 04, 2008, 10:40:19 AM
i'm sure he meant a long time coming for him to win the nomination.  he has been leading for a while now.

im willing to bet thats not what choz meant
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: newsman13 on June 04, 2008, 11:58:28 AM
it's the lyric of a sam cooke song.  he wrote it during the civil rights movement in the early '60s.

Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on June 04, 2008, 07:38:51 PM

What it's all about...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6570922175794593073&q=sam+cooke+a+change+is+gonna+come&ei=LidHSKqlHYTQ4gKD-8WJDA&hl=en
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on June 05, 2008, 12:16:29 PM

What it's all about...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6570922175794593073&q=sam+cooke+a+change+is+gonna+come&ei=LidHSKqlHYTQ4gKD-8WJDA&hl=en

all i see is black. cannot play
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Choz4Life on June 05, 2008, 10:22:15 PM
Now this truly what it all about:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qyWIGu5Ryk
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: gray49 on June 05, 2008, 10:39:17 PM
Thank you Choz...

http://www.youtube.com/v/QRvVzaQ6i8A&hl=en

Peace
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on June 06, 2008, 07:10:14 AM
Now this truly what it all about:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qyWIGu5Ryk

That ia a great video Choz. .   truly is...

But I wonder if you would remotely be interested in the this Presidential election if Barack Obama was not a black man...    if that is the reeason you are so into it . .  just say it...

Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on June 06, 2008, 08:55:42 AM
that video is lame
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Post by: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on June 06, 2008, 08:57:43 AM
Now this truly what it all about:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qyWIGu5Ryk

That ia a great video Choz. .   truly is...

But I wonder if you would remotely be interested in the this Presidential election if Barack Obama was not a black man...    if that is the reeason you are so into it . .  just say it...




The price of gas, oil to heat my home and jobs being shipped overseas have nothing to do with skin color. That's just my opinion. That Sam Cook's song was a staple in my home when I was younger. Brings back memories. Whoever our next President is they have a lot of work to do.  
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on June 06, 2008, 11:26:26 AM


The price of gas, oil to heat my home and jobs being shipped overseas have nothing to do with skin color. That's just my opinion. That Sam Cook's song was a staple in my home when I was younger. Brings back memories. Whoever our next President is they have a lot of work to do.  

You are sure right about the next President having work to do...
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on June 06, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
i would like to comment once more, that that video was lame...
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on June 06, 2008, 02:00:09 PM
Choz,
If true, this video is what America will be talking about......

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_denies_a_rumor_and_questions_the_question.html


June 05, 2008
Categories: Barack Obama

Obama denies a rumor and questions the question

Sen. Barack Obama on Thursday batted down rumors circulating on the Internet and mentioned on some cable news shows of the existence of a video of his wife using a derogatory term for white people, and criticized a reporter for asking him about the rumor, which has not a shred of evidence to support it.

“We have seen this before. There is dirt and lies that are circulated in e-mails and they pump them out long enough until finally you, a mainstream reporter, asks me about it,” Obama said to the McClatchy reporter during a press conference aboard his campaign plane. “That gives legs to the story. If somebody has evidence that myself or Michelle or anybody has said something inappropriate, let them do it.”

Asked whether he knew it not to be true, Obama said he had answered the question.

“Frankly, my hope is people don’t play this game,” Obama said. “It is a destructive aspect of our politics. Simply because something appears in an e-mail, that should lend it no more credence than if you heard it on the corner. Presumably the job of the press is to not to go around and spread scurrilous rumors like this until there is actually anything, an iota, of substance or evidence that would substantiate it.”



Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: newsman13 on June 06, 2008, 03:49:55 PM
the racists will get desperate.  you can see they're coming out of the woodwork already.  that doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't like obama is racist.  far from it.  but putting his wife on the line??? please.

we could take the low road with mccain's wife...she had a three year affair with the senator while he was married.  she plagiarized a cookbook, which also speaks to her character.  she was a drug addict who stole prescription painkillers and who was never prosecuted for it thanks to the influence of her husband.  she won't give up her income tax info...although kerry's wife was badgered endlessly for the same "transgression".  this is a great model for first lady???

obama graduated magna cum laude from harvard law school...he's the first black to be elected president of the harvard law review.  mccain graduated fifth from the bottom of his class at the naval academy...and you can bet having a father and grandfather who served as admirals probably prevented him from getting kicked out altogether.

i think we've had enough of presidents who are intellectually challenged.  you konw what happened when the "bush is an idiot" jokes stopped being funny. 
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on June 06, 2008, 04:22:36 PM
obama graduated magna cum laude from harvard law school...he's the first black to be elected president of the harvard law review.  mccain graduated fifth from the bottom of his class at the naval academy...and you can bet having a father and grandfather who served as admirals probably prevented him from getting kicked out altogether.

i think we've had enough of presidents who are intellectually challenged.  you konw what happened when the "bush is an idiot" jokes stopped being funny. 

I will not question obama's intelligence, but to suggest that Mccain's family serving as admirals has something to do with him getting in or staying in is a fair statement. Can you also suggest that affirmative action may have gotten obama in harvard? Maybe obama got in harvard because obama senior conducted graduate studies there.  I dont know. I dont think anybody has ill-intent to start something here, but there are 2 sides to every viewpoint.

Of all the presidents that did serve their term well, i wonder what their graduation ranking was in their respective class?


Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: newsman13 on June 06, 2008, 04:40:31 PM
i don't know if obama got into harvard via affirmative action.  if he did, it shows the program works. 

you have to realize some type of "affirmative action" was in play for mccain...and for bush getting into yale for that matter.  they turned their college opportunities into jokes. 

that's the difference between obama and the other two.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on June 06, 2008, 04:52:24 PM
i don't know if obama got into harvard via affirmative action.  if he did, it shows the program works. 

you have to realize some type of "affirmative action" was in play for mccain...and for bush getting into yale for that matter.  they turned their college opportunities into jokes. 

that's the difference between obama and the other two.

to turn your college opportunity into jokes means one day running for the presidential election, man thats a great deal. obama cannot be excluded in this assumption as well. if elected, he may become a big disappointment.

Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on June 06, 2008, 05:43:28 PM
the racists will get desperate.  you can see they're coming out of the woodwork already.  that doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't like obama is racist.  far from it.  but putting his wife on the line??? please.

we could take the low road with mccain's wife...she had a three year affair with the senator while he was married.  she plagiarized a cookbook, which also speaks to her character.  she was a drug addict who stole prescription painkillers and who was never prosecuted for it thanks to the influence of her husband.  she won't give up her income tax info...although kerry's wife was badgered endlessly for the same "transgression".  this is a great model for first lady???

obama graduated magna cum laude from harvard law school...he's the first black to be elected president of the harvard law review.  mccain graduated fifth from the bottom of his class at the naval academy...and you can bet having a father and grandfather who served as admirals probably prevented him from getting kicked out altogether.

i think we've had enough of presidents who are intellectually challenged.  you konw what happened when the "bush is an idiot" jokes stopped being funny. 

What President are referring to that is intellectually challenged..?  I hope its not the current one...   the man went to Yale and finished near the top of class @ Harvard Business....   just because he is not the greatest public speaker in the world doesn't mean he is "intellectually challenged"... 

As for Obama..   I ask this..    we are a country at war and he wants to be its next leader...   why hasn't he gone to Iraq and visit the troops there. . to see first hand what is going happening on the ground where our soldiers are fighting..?    why hasn't he made the time to have a one on one meeting with General Petreus or military leaders to voice his concerns or to even ask questions of the people leading our war..?

Obama will not make me feel safer as a citizen and I will definitely pay more taxes with him in the White House..
     
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 06, 2008, 06:10:22 PM
he has gone to iraq. 
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: jumpinjohnny on June 06, 2008, 07:04:33 PM
amazing... community organizer straight to the leader of the free world
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on June 06, 2008, 08:25:58 PM
amazing... community organizer straight to the leader of the free world

Only america....the greatest country in the world! LOL.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on June 06, 2008, 08:43:07 PM
he has gone to iraq. 

Not since he has announced his canidacy for President
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 06, 2008, 08:48:01 PM
amazing... community organizer straight to the leader of the free world

yeah let's forget that part about being a senator
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 06, 2008, 08:49:25 PM
and i thought i heard somewhere obama is contemplating on visiting iraq (not with mccain.  i know that's def out of the question)
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: newsman13 on June 06, 2008, 09:38:31 PM
what does a token trip to iraq do???  will it change your vote??  let's be honest.  walking around secured areas and talking with "selected" troops doesn't get it.  that's not a trip to iraq.  it's a designer junket. 

it dishonors those making the sacrifices...but who cares about them?

   
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 06, 2008, 09:41:29 PM
not mccain.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on June 07, 2008, 08:00:49 AM
amazing... community organizer straight to the leader of the free world


yeah let's forget that part about being a senator

and as a Senator. . what has the man governed..?(same olds true for McCain & Clinton)  do you know anything about Obama's voting record...

Here is one of those things/topics where your age does prevent you from knowing what you are talking about...... 
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on June 07, 2008, 08:04:19 AM
what does a token trip to iraq do???  will it change your vote??  let's be honest.  walking around secured areas and talking with "selected" troops doesn't get it.  that's not a trip to iraq.  it's a designer junket. 

it dishonors those making the sacrifices...but who cares about them?

That is just not true....   its is not token to the soliders there...    I have spoken to guys who met politicians in Iraq and means the world to them that they even make the effort..

Why not a meeting with the Commanders in Iraq. . one on one..

Krusty. .  you know I respect you and your views but you are one angry and bitter dude sometimes...
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 07, 2008, 09:54:34 AM
amazing... community organizer straight to the leader of the free world


yeah let's forget that part about being a senator

and as a Senator. . what has the man governed..?(same olds true for McCain & Clinton)  do you know anything about Obama's voting record...

Here is one of those things/topics where your age does prevent you from knowing what you are talking about...... 


he usually voted for the majority and something about not voting at all and just voting he was present.

you cna't just say he was a city organizer because of tha though.  he was part of the senate.

and mccain agreed with bush 95% of the time in the last year or so.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: newsman13 on June 07, 2008, 07:12:10 PM
what does a token trip to iraq do???  will it change your vote??  let's be honest.  walking around secured areas and talking with "selected" troops doesn't get it.  that's not a trip to iraq.  it's a designer junket. 

it dishonors those making the sacrifices...but who cares about them?

That is just not true....   its is not token to the soliders there...    I have spoken to guys who met politicians in Iraq and means the world to them that they even make the effort..

Why not a meeting with the Commanders in Iraq. . one on one..

Krusty. .  you know I respect you and your views but you are one angry and bitter dude sometimes...

not angry and bitter...krusty.  i'm a krusty person.

i enjoy debating you.  you're a worthy opponent whose views i respect.   

mark twain wrote, "some see things the way they are and ask why.  i see things the way they can be and ask, why not?"  i guess the older i get, the more "why nots" i see.

as far as the troops in iraq being grateful because a politician shows up...i can tell you from first hand experience that back in the day we were grateful for the uso shows...and thought the politicians could shove it.  as you know, my cousin is a blackhawk pilot in iraq right now.  i'll ask her about it.
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 13, 2008, 11:09:38 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#25130683
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: pmg911 on June 14, 2008, 11:35:35 AM
not mccain.

Do you think that John McCain..  a former Vietnam POW doesn't care about troops coming home..?
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: Randomhero423 on June 14, 2008, 11:50:46 AM
he did say it wasn't "too important"
Title: Re: Portland comes out strong.
Post by: buckeyestorm on March 06, 2009, 03:50:39 PM
the dow is down apprx. 3682 points (-36%) since obama became president-elect. im confident obama will get us out of the worst financial crisis in over 5 decades.