6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2013 Class => Topic started by: fordham96 on May 02, 2011, 08:09:13 PM
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Don't see him listed in the 2013 recruit page. I have noticed in several articles SJU is mentioned as a possible suitor. Perhaps we should add him Dave:
"It's been crazy so far," he said. "The new coaches at Missouri, Coach (Frank) Haith and Coach (Isaac) Chew, they've been up to the school to recruit me. They offered me right on the spot."
According to Wainwright, other schools in the picture right now include Arkansas, Baylor, Kansas, St. John's, Texas and UCLA.
http://kansas.scout.com/2/1069248.html (http://kansas.scout.com/2/1069248.html)
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yes I do have to update some recruiting pages. I have my last tournament next weekend and I can exhale somewhat for a week or two. I've pretty much had an AAU tourney every weekend besides Easter which I spent with my family.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/101154/ishmail-wainright (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/101154/ishmail-wainright)
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Ishmael Wainright (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmkEWG5BvVg#)
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Committed to Frank Haith and Missouri. Great pick up.
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Just a gut feeling but this recruitment will open up down the road. Not saying for us, even though he did have positive things to say about us, but I just think its pretty early for him especially to a new coach.
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Just a gut feeling but this recruitment will open up down the road. Not saying for us, even though he did have positive things to say about us, but I just think its pretty early for him especially to a new coach.
Totally had the same feeling moose. Nothin about the kid, just the situation at mizzo
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Ha has decommitted from Missouri.
http://www.therecruitscoop.com/ishmail-wainright-decommits-from-missouri (http://www.therecruitscoop.com/ishmail-wainright-decommits-from-missouri)
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Ha has decommitted from Missouri.
http://www.therecruitscoop.com/ishmail-wainright-decommits-from-missouri (http://www.therecruitscoop.com/ishmail-wainright-decommits-from-missouri)
Ha.
Wish I put money on my prediction.
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Wainright indicated that Missouri is still high on his list and that the coaches "did nothing wrong". Wainright had signifcant interest from Arkansas, Baylor, St. John's, and Kansas before making his commitment to Missouri.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=2&cid=1082080&nid=4763142&fhn=1 (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=2&cid=1082080&nid=4763142&fhn=1)
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IMO, I don't think he's a must-have. Saw some of his games on net. He's a decent athlete, but at 6'5" is a little bit too much of a below the rim type guy. Weird jumper at times. The positives though, are that he's a real good passer and savy player overall. I think there are others that might fit our ultra athletic style a little bit better overall. Reminds me a bit of former Temple player Mark Karcher.
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Per ESPN Recruiting.... Wainright was listed as one of the "standout players" at the Under Armour Summer Jam. He's also still listing the Johnnies.
Ishmail Wainright (Raytown, Mo./Raytown South)
2013, SF, 6-5, 220 pounds
The strong and physical small forward is not only a power driver who scores through contact, he also slashes in between defenders and he welcomes physicality. Wainright has a nice floater where he displays good touch and body control and is a highlight power dunker on the break and on all clear paths to the rim. He overpowers perimeter defenders in the post as well. Wainright attacks the offensive glass and if not boxed out aggressively he is a tip-in or tip-dunk threat. The Missouri decommit has a college-ready body right now, but will need to make his jumper from behind the arc more consistent in order to add another weapon. Kentucky, UCLA, West Virginia, St. John's, Baylor, Kansas, Memphis, Utah, Texas, Texas Tech, UMKC and Missouri are in the mix.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6780468/ny2la-armour-summer-jam-recap (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6780468/ny2la-armour-summer-jam-recap)
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Per ESPN Recruiting.... Wainright was listed as one of the "standout players" at the Under Armour Summer Jam. He's also still listing the Johnnies.
Ishmail Wainright (Raytown, Mo./Raytown South)
2013, SF, 6-5, 220 pounds
The strong and physical small forward is not only a power driver who scores through contact, he also slashes in between defenders and he welcomes physicality. Wainright has a nice floater where he displays good touch and body control and is a highlight power dunker on the break and on all clear paths to the rim. He overpowers perimeter defenders in the post as well. Wainright attacks the offensive glass and if not boxed out aggressively he is a tip-in or tip-dunk threat. The Missouri decommit has a college-ready body right now, but will need to make his jumper from behind the arc more consistent in order to add another weapon. Kentucky, UCLA, West Virginia, St. John's, Baylor, Kansas, Memphis, Utah, Texas, Texas Tech, UMKC and Missouri are in the mix.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6780468/ny2la-armour-summer-jam-recap (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6780468/ny2la-armour-summer-jam-recap)
I don't think we need this kid. We have Pointer, Garrett, and Harkless already. He sounds like Pointer with one less year of experience.
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Oops...I thought he was for 2012. He'd be a good pickup for 2013.
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Ishmail Wainright–6-5 Guard/Forward–KC 76ers: Despite being a member of the 2013 class, Wainright had the most pro-ready body out of the entire event. Wainwirght can definitely be described as a ‘power’ wing who will beat defenders into the ground with his physicality and athleticism. Skill wise he is pretty solid but will look to improve his ball-handling and 3pt range going forward.
Wainright gave a school list of Kentucky, Baylor, Missouri, Memphis, Kansas, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, UCLA, Texas, Texas Tech and St. John’s.
Wainright had previously committed to Missouri before opening things back up at the end of June.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0721/ua-summer-jam-presented-by-ny2la-sports-top-performers/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0721/ua-summer-jam-presented-by-ny2la-sports-top-performers/)
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Per Rivals....
Ishmail Wainright- This 2013 inside/outside threat nearly led his KC 76'ers team to an upset win over The Playaz. He was a clutch scorer down the stretch, getting buckets by posting in the midrange and also coming off screens behind the arc.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1243323 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1243323)
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Looks like he wants to visit SJU in August. Sounds like we maybe on this kid's short list:
* Ishmail Wainright has offers from Texas, Missouri, West Virginia, UCLA, St. John’s and Virginia Tech. He hopes to visit Kentucky and St. John’s in August.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1089356.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1089356.html)
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Looks like he wants to visit SJU in August. Sounds like we maybe on this kid's short list:
* Ishmail Wainright has offers from Texas, Missouri, West Virginia, UCLA, St. John’s and Virginia Tech. He hopes to visit Kentucky and St. John’s in August.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1089356.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1089356.html)
Sounds good, fordham! There is also a premium article on Wainright and his AAU team (KC 76ers) on Rivals. Seems like he's been playing some serious ball over the past couple of weeks.
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To summarize the Rivals article, it sounds like Wainwright is a multi talented wing who loves to play D. Sounds like he did a great job shutting down Jabari Parker in the championship game. The biggest thing mentioned in the article is that Earl Watson was sitting courtside and is an alum of the KC 76ers. Seeing as how Earl will be working out at St. John's this summer and obviously likes Lavin, this was very exciting to hear.
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Sounds good to me if he's going to visit this summer. Another top 60 kid. Simply amazing.
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To summarize the Rivals article, it sounds like Wainwright is a multi talented wing who loves to play D. Sounds like he did a great job shutting down Jabari Parker in the championship game. The biggest thing mentioned in the article is that Earl Watson was sitting courtside and is an alum of the KC 76ers. Seeing as how Earl will be working out at St. John's this summer and obviously likes Lavin, this was very exciting to hear.
Thanks, Vig! I forgot Watson was a Kansas City native. Even more interesting he's an alum of the KC 76ers. Could be of aide down the road.
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Ishmail Wainright Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hZXlzoPLZA#ws)
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Yup looks like Earl Watson connection. Both Howland and Lavin were watching him in Vegas:
While the stands weren’t filled to brim as they were last summer (Oakland Soldiers tend to bring out the crowds), there were a few college programs represented in the coaches area with 2013 wing Ishmail Wainwright the primary focus.
Ben Howland (UCLA) and Steve Lavin (St. John’s) were both there to watch Wainwright, who considers Earl Watson (who has connections to both as he played at UCLA under Lavin) to be an older brother and mentor. Other programs represented include Western Illinois, George Mason, Kansas, Missouri, UC Irvine, South Florida, Cal Poly, Nebraska, UM-KC and Creighton.
Wainwright was unselfish, not forcing the issue offensively and looking to share the wealth when possible. He’s a very athletic wing with a long wingspan, which allows him to defend a number of positions on the floor, and he also displayed the ability to finish with contact. After the game he provided the following list: Kentucky, Missouri, Syracuse, Texas, Oklahoma State, St. John’s and UCLA.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0726/las-vegas-aau-day-4-notebook-wild-wild-west-in-vegas/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0726/las-vegas-aau-day-4-notebook-wild-wild-west-in-vegas/)
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Having Garrett, Harkless, Pointer and Sampson, do we need another small forward?
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Having Garrett, Harkless, Pointer and Sampson, do we need another small forward?
They will be juniors. Odds are pretty good there will be a departure or two.
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Having Garrett, Harkless, Pointer and Sampson, do we need another small forward?
They will be juniors. Odds are pretty good there will be a departure or two.
Yes, but with two available scholarships (from Stith and Achiuwa) I think that there are other positions where we have more necessities.
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Having Garrett, Harkless, Pointer and Sampson, do we need another small forward?
They will be juniors. Odds are pretty good there will be a departure or two.
Yes, but with two available scholarships (from Stith and Achiuwa) I think that there are other positions where we have more necessities.
Having Garrett, Harkless, Pointer and Sampson, do we need another small forward?
They will be juniors. Odds are pretty good there will be a departure or two.
Yes, but with two available scholarships (from Stith and Achiuwa) I think that there are other positions where we have more necessities.
Throw in Nuri too if you want. I don't see him staying 3 years. Its great we are after all these great '13 and '14 players but there is just so much that can happen I can't focus much on needs beyond '12
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his game reminds me of brownlee a little bit. seems like an undersized four that can put it on the floor from midrange and post ups and has a nack for finishing on the baseline.
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Per Jeff Borzello (CBS Sports)....
Ishmail Wainright, 2013, KC 76ers: Arguably the most impressive overall performer of the week, Wainright led his team to a surprising Fab 48 title. The muscular junior has always been a great defender and energy guy, but he carried the 76ers offensively, including getting the upper hand on Jabari Parker in a head-to-head battle.
http://eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29884776/30877106 (http://eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29884776/30877106)
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Having Garrett, Harkless, Pointer and Sampson, do we need another small forward?
This is what I thought at first as well, but I bet we lose one of our wings by that time. He's also a power player at the SF spot that can complement our run-and-gun athletes there. I don't think we'll have too many holes come 2013. This is the type of athlete you need to land so you can just reload and have kids ready to step when our big class graduates.
It'd be great to be able to count on experienced returning players then like McCullough, Wainright, and Gathers.
They will be juniors. Odds are pretty good there will be a departure or two.
Yes, but with two available scholarships (from Stith and Achiuwa) I think that there are other positions where we have more necessities.
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Having Garrett, Harkless, Pointer and Sampson, do we need another small forward?
This is what I thought at first as well, but I bet we lose one of our wings by that time. He's also a power player at the SF spot that can complement our run-and-gun athletes there. I don't think we'll have too many holes come 2013. This is the type of athlete you need to land so you can just reload and have kids ready to step when our big class graduates.
It'd be great to be able to count on experienced returning players then like McCullough, Wainright, and Gathers.
They will be juniors. Odds are pretty good there will be a departure or two.
Yes, but with two available scholarships (from Stith and Achiuwa) I think that there are other positions where we have more necessities.
This kid could conceivably take Achiuwa's place as a PF, though not as a center which we certainly would need in that class. Indeed the kid seems like too good of a player and talent to pass over if we can land him. If he's outplaying one of the best forwards in the class, he's going to be rising fast ranking-wise. Couple that with the fact that he'll likely be visiting when Earl Watson is on campus and it looks like we have an inside track.
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Having Garrett, Harkless, Pointer and Sampson, do we need another small forward?
This is what I thought at first as well, but I bet we lose one of our wings by that time. He's also a power player at the SF spot that can complement our run-and-gun athletes there. I don't think we'll have too many holes come 2013. This is the type of athlete you need to land so you can just reload and have kids ready to step when our big class graduates.
It'd be great to be able to count on experienced returning players then like McCullough, Wainright, and Gathers.
They will be juniors. Odds are pretty good there will be a departure or two.
Yes, but with two available scholarships (from Stith and Achiuwa) I think that there are other positions where we have more necessities.
This kid could conceivably take Achiuwa's place as a PF, though not as a center which we certainly would need in that class. Indeed the kid seems like too good of a player and talent to pass over if we can land him. If he's outplaying one of the best forwards in the class, he's going to be rising fast ranking-wise. Couple that with the fact that he'll likely be visiting when Earl Watson is on campus and it looks like we have an inside track.
I agree. Best available here. If we have 6'10 Pelle, 6'7 Gathers, 6'8 Sampson, 6'8 Anderson able to play up front, I think we're fine. Sampson's AAU coach said he could play some five if he had to, and Gathers looks more than strong enough to hold down the middle while the long, athletic wings come swatting from the zone.
We were a shot away from the Final Four starting 6'7 and 6'7 up front with Artest and Grant. We probably move on if Grant stays healthy.
Gotta strike while the iron is hot and Earl Watson being on campus gives us a great shot at this KC product that will surely be rising above his current #52 ranking.
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It's pretty funny how we talk about needing "size" but we're actually a lot bigger than we have been in the past with some of our better teams. At one point we had Glover as a 6'5" post player and we were advancing far. Maryland did it with Lonnie Baxter. I don't thin we need more than 1 or maybe 2 real post players on the roster to be effective. Pelle, GG, sampson, Harkless and maybe gathers Anderson etc are all 6'7"+. Don't thin size is a big issue with the way we want to play.
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We need to actually get Anderson & Gathers first
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Per ESPN Recruiting....
Featured matchup
Jabari Parker vs. Ishmail Wainright
In one of the more anticipated Fab 48 quarterfinal tilts, the ultratalented Mac Irvin Fire clashed with a hard-nosed KC 76ers squad in what would be an intriguing 2013 matchup between the 6-7 Parker (Chicago/Simeon) and the 6-5 Wainright (Raytown, Mo./Raytown South). Parker, who is arguably the No. 1 player in high school basketball, has a polished offensive game while Wainright possesses a beefy frame combined with an albatross-like reach.
From the beginning, Wainright's length and strength bothered Parker as he had difficult breaking down Wainright off the dribble. Parker settled for jump shots early on and could never really get into any rhythm on the offensive end. Wainwright, on the other hand, punished Parker and his teammates on the boards and converted some nice buckets in the paint area. In the second half, Parker did a much better job of not settling for jumpers and put together some nice drives of his own, usually resulting with a pinpoint pass to an open teammate. Meanwhile, Wainright displayed some slick ballhandling of his own and demonstrated that passing is part of his offensive package as well. Overall, Wainright won the individual matchup due to the fact that he is one of the few players in the country who has the ability to frustrate Parker at both ends of the floor.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6802720/marcus-smart-highlights-las-vegas-tournaments-day-4 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6802720/marcus-smart-highlights-las-vegas-tournaments-day-4)
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
Lavin is building UCLA-EAST. We're more than in the conversation and we're not just making lists. We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
Lavin is building UCLA-EAST. We're more than in the conversation and we're not just making lists. We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
We'll be doubling UCLA's attendance in three years :)
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
Lavin is building UCLA-EAST. We're more than in the conversation and we're not just making lists. We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
We'll be doubling UCLA's attendance in three years :)
The funny thing Marillac, is that our attendance is limited a little bit by our small on campus arena, but certainly our numbers at msg can improve by a ton, and I'm positive they will...
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
Told ya :)
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
Told ya :)
I'm happy to admit it. :up:
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
Lavin is building UCLA-EAST. We're more than in the conversation and we're not just making lists. We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
We'll be doubling UCLA's attendance in three years :)
The funny thing Marillac, is that our attendance is limited a little bit by our small on campus arena, but certainly our numbers at msg can improve by a ton, and I'm positive they will...
I know...I hate that our arena holds so few. I think we are going to be seeing more Garden games as we are now a high profile brand (awesome). I think we have the people on board to have a few creative Garden double-headers to draw more fans. STJ-Fordham and Iona-Manhattan could get 10,000-12,000 to the Garden I'd think. Wagner is up-and-coming as well and could help draw with the Hurleys.
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
Lavin is building UCLA-EAST. We're more than in the conversation and we're not just making lists. We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
We'll be doubling UCLA's attendance in three years :)
The funny thing Marillac, is that our attendance is limited a little bit by our small on campus arena, but certainly our numbers at msg can improve by a ton, and I'm positive they will...
I know...I hate that our arena holds so few. I think we are going to be seeing more Garden games as we are now a high profile brand (awesome). I think we have the people on board to have a few creative Garden double-headers to draw more fans. STJ-Fordham and Iona-Manhattan could get 10,000-12,000 to the Garden I'd think. Wagner is up-and-coming as well and could help draw with the Hurleys.
Eff that. I agree with more Garden games, but make em big OOC games, not Wagner, Iona etc. Sorry, but those guys should never share MSG with us. No need. We can get just about any high profile OOC team we want to come play at MSG. Everybody is dying to play there. Need to use it to our advantage. Duke draws amazingly well. Since we're playing in the Big East-SEC this season, maybe we invite UK next time around.. They'll travel for sure. If we are going to invite OOC games to MSG on our home slate, they should be games that provide us a strategic advantage.
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
Lavin is building UCLA-EAST. We're more than in the conversation and we're not just making lists. We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
We'll be doubling UCLA's attendance in three years :)
The funny thing Marillac, is that our attendance is limited a little bit by our small on campus arena, but certainly our numbers at msg can improve by a ton, and I'm positive they will...
I know...I hate that our arena holds so few. I think we are going to be seeing more Garden games as we are now a high profile brand (awesome). I think we have the people on board to have a few creative Garden double-headers to draw more fans. STJ-Fordham and Iona-Manhattan could get 10,000-12,000 to the Garden I'd think. Wagner is up-and-coming as well and could help draw with the Hurleys.
Eff that. I agree with more Garden games, but make em big OOC games, not Wagner, Iona etc. Sorry, but those guys should never share MSG with us. No need. We can get just about any high profile OOC team we want to come play at MSG. Everybody is dying to play there. Need to use it to our advantage. Duke draws amazingly well. Since we're playing in the Big East-SEC this season, maybe we invite UK next time around.. They'll travel for sure. If we are going to invite OOC games to MSG on our home slate, they should be games that provide us a strategic advantage.
I hear what you're saying, but we still need some cupcakes. I don't see a problem with two Garden double-headers with the locals. The good locals average about 2,000 fans per game. You'd have to imagine that anything involving St. John's (forget a ranked St. John's team) would add a thousand to that figure. We could be looking at 9,000 fans from the other schools to add to our figure.
FWIW, I think we'd spank UK next year after it has a mass exodus. That would be a sellout for sure...they travel well.
I'd love to see us bring in a few of the kings of college basketball on an annual basis: UCLA, UNC, UK, Kansas, etc. As we start to draw more, we will have more leverage with the Garden to limit how many other college teams they invite. I think UCLA-St. John's should be an annual rivalry. It makes so much sense: NY v. LA, East v. West, Big East v. Pac-10, two of the most storied programs in the history of college basketball, Lavin....
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Per Alex Kline twitter Ishmail wainwright said that St john's and ucla are recruiting him the hardest.
I was just about to post it, as well. Interesting.... It feels good to be in conversation and knowingly, can grab highly rated kids.
Lavin is building UCLA-EAST. We're more than in the conversation and we're not just making lists. We're finalists for just about everybody we set in our sights. I am in awe.
We'll be doubling UCLA's attendance in three years :)
The funny thing Marillac, is that our attendance is limited a little bit by our small on campus arena, but certainly our numbers at msg can improve by a ton, and I'm positive they will...
I know...I hate that our arena holds so few. I think we are going to be seeing more Garden games as we are now a high profile brand (awesome). I think we have the people on board to have a few creative Garden double-headers to draw more fans. STJ-Fordham and Iona-Manhattan could get 10,000-12,000 to the Garden I'd think. Wagner is up-and-coming as well and could help draw with the Hurleys.
Eff that. I agree with more Garden games, but make em big OOC games, not Wagner, Iona etc. Sorry, but those guys should never share MSG with us. No need. We can get just about any high profile OOC team we want to come play at MSG. Everybody is dying to play there. Need to use it to our advantage. Duke draws amazingly well. Since we're playing in the Big East-SEC this season, maybe we invite UK next time around.. They'll travel for sure. If we are going to invite OOC games to MSG on our home slate, they should be games that provide us a strategic advantage.
I hear what you're saying, but we still need some cupcakes. I don't see a problem with two Garden double-headers with the locals. The good locals average about 2,000 fans per game. You'd have to imagine that anything involving St. John's (forget a ranked St. John's team) would add a thousand to that figure. We could be looking at 9,000 fans from the other schools to add to our figure.
FWIW, I think we'd spank UK next year after it has a mass exodus. That would be a sellout for sure...they travel well.
I'd love to see us bring in a few of the kings of college basketball on an annual basis: UCLA, UNC, UK, Kansas, etc. As we start to draw more, we will have more leverage with the Garden to limit how many other college teams they invite. I think UCLA-St. John's should be an annual rivalry. It makes so much sense: NY v. LA, East v. West, Big East v. Pac-10, two of the most storied programs in the history of college basketball, Lavin....
Agree with all. Just don't want to start pushing the locals at the Garden. I think the locals should be brought in to fill up games at Carnesecca. We can sell out those games with the locals. Perfect opportunity, but not MSG.
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Back to discussing Ish Wainright....
Thanks to Scout Bruin Poster PHS1 for this info:
Ishmail Wainright is being watched by Coach Howland this afternoon while his KC 76ers pound the Dallas Showtyme Elite for the Best of Summer championship in Anaheim. Lavin is also there, as UCLA and St. John's were the first two schools to offer Wainright, who previously rescinded a commitment to Missouri - the closest program to his home (and Kansas isn't too much further away). At least for now, Wainright is at the top of the 2013 UCLA priority list. His KC 76ers squad has now won the Fab 48 and Best of Summer titles back-to-back, and Wainright opened a lot of eyes in severely bothering fellow elite class of 2013 wing Jabari Parker with is defense in their match-up last week in Las Vegas.
As an aside, former Bruin Earl Watson is an alumnus of the KC 76ers AAU program
I'd remind everyone here that Earl Watson is spending this summer/fall during the lockout working with Steve Lavin at St. Johns.
(My inference from that is that there's a good chance Earl could someday be a St. John's staffer - his on court career is really winding down - perhaps even before Ish Wainright steps on a college campus as a frosh for the 2014 hoops season.....)
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Back to discussing Ish Wainright....
Thanks to Scout Bruin Poster PHS1 for this info:
Ishmail Wainright is being watched by Coach Howland this afternoon while his KC 76ers pound the Dallas Showtyme Elite for the Best of Summer championship in Anaheim. Lavin is also there, as UCLA and St. John's were the first two schools to offer Wainright, who previously rescinded a commitment to Missouri - the closest program to his home (and Kansas isn't too much further away). At least for now, Wainright is at the top of the 2013 UCLA priority list. His KC 76ers squad has now won the Fab 48 and Best of Summer titles back-to-back, and Wainright opened a lot of eyes in severely bothering fellow elite class of 2013 wing Jabari Parker with is defense in their match-up last week in Las Vegas.
As an aside, former Bruin Earl Watson is an alumnus of the KC 76ers AAU program
I'd remind everyone here that Earl Watson is spending this summer/fall during the lockout working with Steve Lavin at St. Johns.
(My inference from that is that there's a good chance Earl could someday be a St. John's staffer - his on court career is really winding down - perhaps even before Ish Wainright steps on a college campus as a frosh for the 2014 hoops season.....)
I suspect you are correct with that. If somebody were to move on from the staff, I could certainly see Watson comin on board. No doubt Watson coming to work with Lavin this summer is part of that process. Was the first thing I thought of when I heard Watson was headed this way. Think he'd be a great addition to the staff to tell the truth. NBA veteran PG and former Lavin player.
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Back to discussing Ish Wainright....
Thanks to Scout Bruin Poster PHS1 for this info:
Ishmail Wainright is being watched by Coach Howland this afternoon while his KC 76ers pound the Dallas Showtyme Elite for the Best of Summer championship in Anaheim. Lavin is also there, as UCLA and St. John's were the first two schools to offer Wainright, who previously rescinded a commitment to Missouri - the closest program to his home (and Kansas isn't too much further away). At least for now, Wainright is at the top of the 2013 UCLA priority list. His KC 76ers squad has now won the Fab 48 and Best of Summer titles back-to-back, and Wainright opened a lot of eyes in severely bothering fellow elite class of 2013 wing Jabari Parker with is defense in their match-up last week in Las Vegas.
As an aside, former Bruin Earl Watson is an alumnus of the KC 76ers AAU program
I'd remind everyone here that Earl Watson is spending this summer/fall during the lockout working with Steve Lavin at St. Johns.
(My inference from that is that there's a good chance Earl could someday be a St. John's staffer - his on court career is really winding down - perhaps even before Ish Wainright steps on a college campus as a frosh for the 2014 hoops season.....)
I suspect you are correct with that. If somebody were to move on from the staff, I could certainly see Watson comin on board. No doubt Watson coming to work with Lavin this summer is part of that process. Was the first thing I thought of when I heard Watson was headed this way. Think he'd be a great addition to the staff to tell the truth. NBA veteran PG and former Lavin player.
Could not agree more, Earl has serious presence and every kid today wants to play for a staff with NBA experience.
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Per ESPN Recruiting.... Wainright was considered to be one of the "standout players" at the Double Pump.
Ishmail Wainright (Raytown, Mo./Raytown South)
2013, WF, 6-5, 215 pounds
He is one of the better all-around defenders in his class. Wainright led his team (KC 76ers) to the tournament championship by affecting the outcome of each and every game in multiple ways. The chiseled, long-armed wing is a lockdown defender at all three levels. He is an excellent on-ball defender where he utilizes his length and quick hands to disrupt his opponent. In addition, he has the ability to pick apart the defense with his precision passing and slashing drives. As of right now, it appears this will be a battle between UCLA and St. John's for his services.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6823899/double-pump-best-summer-recap (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6823899/double-pump-best-summer-recap)
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Im growing more and more confident abou wainright. Im interested to see where he is on he class rankings after the summer
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Per Rivals....
3. Wainright plays a balanced, controlled game
Ishmail Wainright didn't have the sophomore season that many were expecting of him at Raytown (Mo.) South. He would probably be the first to tell you that. At times during the spring and early summer, the 6-foot-5 four-star wing from the class of 2013 was also a bit quiet. However, that all changed during the second half of July as he led his KC 76ers team to titles at the Fab 48 - where he was named MVP - and then capped it with a win at the Best of the Summer.
With his long arms, strong frame and athleticism, Wainright immediately jumps out as a physically impressive player. Because of that, people sometimes expect that he'll be dominant every second of the game and put up huge numbers offensive numbers. While Wainright can score - he's best in transition, off the dribble, as a slasher and cleaning up other people's misses - expecting him to be a scorer is missing what it was that made him so successful in Anaheim.
When Wainright has had it rolling as he did over the last 10 days of July, he's best as an all-around player and facilitator. He will defend the other team's best player inside or out, rebounds the ball, gets out in transition, passes the ball exceptionally well and has started to knock down the open shot.
In other words, he's a guy who does a little bit of everything and provides leadership for his team. Most importantly, he also seems to have developed a good feel for when it's time for him to take over - as he did in Las Vegas against 2013 five-star Jabari Parker - and when it's time for him to play setup man. It's that all-around play and leadership he demonstrated that has his stock on the rise.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1246608 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1246608)
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Ish headed to Montrose Christian in Maryland for his junior year.
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Ish headed to Montrose Christian in Maryland for his junior year.
Right in Rico's wheelhouse.
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Ish headed to Montrose Christian in Maryland for his junior year.
Right in Rico's wheelhouse.
More than that, he played for Stu Vetter. Hmm. Rico played for Vetter where Wainright is going to play, and also for Earl Watson's AAU program. I also have a good feeling about this kid. I watched some more of him, and with his long arms, defensively he reminds me a little bit of Artest actually.
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Ish headed to Montrose Christian in Maryland for his junior year.
Right in Rico's wheelhouse.
More than that, he played for Stu Vetter. Hmm. Rico played for Vetter where Wainright is going to play, and also for Earl Watson's AAU program. I also have a good feeling about this kid. I watched some more of him, and with his long arms, defensively he reminds me a little bit of Artest actually.
And him and Anderson hooked up on twitter recently :) Hmmmm. Rico has certainly pulling his weight. Lavin recruited some sick athletes first year, but he's going after a bunch of really controlled, skilled players lately: Wainwright, Anderson, Jefferson...you could kind of even put Gathers in that category.
I really like what I see/read on Wainwright. Seems a lot like Ron like you said in the way he can do it all from running some point, d'ing up on anyone, etc.
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While none of us has a crystal ball on our Class of 2011 and Class of 2012 recruits in terms of who will still be in Queens at the end of the 2012-13 Season, are we looking for two definite recruits in 2013? Those openings are the MS and GG spots. If so, it seems like the front runners are RJ and IW. Not bad!
I think Coach will look for a PF/C from the JC ranks, if another spot comes open.
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While none of us has a crystal ball on our Class of 2011 and Class of 2012 recruits in terms of who will still be in Queens at the end of the 2012-13 Season, are we looking for two definite recruits in 2013? Those openings are the MS and GG spots. If so, it seems like the front runners are RJ and IW. Not bad!
I think Coach will look for a PF/C from the JC ranks, if another spot comes open.
Man abbreviations make my head spin.
Lets not start counting ships. I think its clear we're recruiting high level talent that in a perfect world won't last 4 yrs. There WILL be defections. Either to the NBA or the inevitable transfer for homesick, playing time, etc.
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While none of us has a crystal ball on our Class of 2011 and Class of 2012 recruits in terms of who will still be in Queens at the end of the 2012-13 Season, are we looking for two definite recruits in 2013? Those openings are the MS and GG spots. If so, it seems like the front runners are RJ and IW. Not bad!
I think Coach will look for a PF/C from the JC ranks, if another spot comes open.
Man abbreviations make my head spin.
Lets not start counting ships. I think its clear we're recruiting high level talent that in a perfect world won't last 4 yrs. There WILL be defections. Either to the NBA or the inevitable transfer for homesick, playing time, etc.
Wow, I am being told not to speculate on the number of scholarships we may have in a few years. I thought that one of the key points on this website is speculating about any thing related the the St. John's BB team.
Chill out and let me do my thing!
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While none of us has a crystal ball on our Class of 2011 and Class of 2012 recruits in terms of who will still be in Queens at the end of the 2012-13 Season, are we looking for two definite recruits in 2013? Those openings are the MS and GG spots. If so, it seems like the front runners are RJ and IW. Not bad!
I think Coach will look for a PF/C from the JC ranks, if another spot comes open.
Man abbreviations make my head spin.
Lets not start counting ships. I think its clear we're recruiting high level talent that in a perfect world won't last 4 yrs. There WILL be defections. Either to the NBA or the inevitable transfer for homesick, playing time, etc.
Wow, I am being told not to speculate on the number of scholarships we may have in a few years. I thought that one of the key points on this website is speculating about any thing related the the St. John's BB team.
Chill out and let me do my thing!
Chill out? You need to chill out. I'm not 'telling' you to do anything.
That being said just as you have an opinion I do too. I'm stating its pointless speculation. Speculate on who is going to come sure thats fine and fun but to wonder how many ships we have is fruitless excercise. Case in point how many people thought we would have Polee's ship after just one yr?
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"Lets not start counting ships. "
Gee, that sounds like a direct order to cease and desist.
I probably will live on the wild side, and not follow your order. Sorry!
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"Lets not start counting ships. "
Gee, that sounds like a direct order to cease and desist.
I probably will live on the wild side, and not follow your order. Sorry!
Yeah sure thing. That was an order all right. You have me all figured out. ::)
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Careful Gumby-Moose might twist you into a pretzel! (just sayin-between a Gumby and a Moose I'm betting on the Moose).
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Careful Gumby-Moose might twist you into a pretzel! (just sayin-between a Gumby and a Moose I'm betting on the Moose).
You are probably right, even with my pal, Pokey, we would not stand a chance with an enlarged elk.
Seriously though, I think the signing of Darrick shows us all that Coach Lavin is also not concerned with a "minor" detail like the number of scholarships available. He (Coach Lavin) is all knowing.
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Actually I used to love Gumby-owned one of those bendable green Gumbys.
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Actually I used to love Gumby-owned one of those bendable green Gumbys.
(http://www.arcatapet.com/fullsize/14875.jpg)
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Actually I used to love Gumby-owned one of those bendable green Gumbys.
(http://www.arcatapet.com/fullsize/14875.jpg)
Thanks for the flashback Moose! :)
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Providence getting in the mix-
http://bit.ly/nQok1k (http://bit.ly/nQok1k)
Friars in the mix w/ '13 SF Ishmail Wainwright of Montrose Christian Academy (MD). Have not offered to date. ESPN 31, RIVALS 32. #pcbb
*Also read somewhere last night that Lville offered.
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Lavin and staff were at Montrose yesterday watching him. Baylor, Missouri also there.
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I wonder if Lavin asked the Baylor staff what they had in store for Sampson this weekend. :)
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I wonder if Lavin asked the Baylor staff what they had in store for Sampson this weekend. :)
Murder?
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I wonder if Lavin asked the Baylor staff what they had in store for Sampson this weekend. :)
Murder?
LOL. And blame Jakarr in a drug deal gone bad after he refuses to commit on the spot. ::)
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huh? have bliss was and is a good man.
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^^^ yeah, ok
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huh? have bliss was and is a good man.
Have Bliss? Time to lay off the sauce bro! :(
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Ishmail posted "YO YO YO ! Wats good eeveryone. i want to see wat school has the most fans showing me love . so far KU is kicking butt . lol" http://www.prepforce.com/user/Ishmail_Wainright (http://www.prepforce.com/user/Ishmail_Wainright)
Come on Johnnies lets show him some love!
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Ishmail posted "YO YO YO ! Wats good eeveryone. i want to see wat school has the most fans showing me love . so far KU is kicking butt . lol" http://www.prepforce.com/user/Ishmail_Wainright (http://www.prepforce.com/user/Ishmail_Wainright)
Come on Johnnies lets show him some love!
this means nothing. Seton Hall showed KA soooooo much love. it got them nowhere...
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Ishmail posted "YO YO YO ! Wats good eeveryone. i want to see wat school has the most fans showing me love . so far KU is kicking butt . lol" http://www.prepforce.com/user/Ishmail_Wainright (http://www.prepforce.com/user/Ishmail_Wainright)
Come on Johnnies lets show him some love!
CR will come and correct me but there is hometown and AAU ties to JaRon Rush and Earl Watson.
And now he goes to Rico's old HS or his backyard I think.
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Apparently he is at Okie St this weekend with a bunch of other recruits.
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Apparently he is at Okie St this weekend with a bunch of other recruits.
Hopefully he dumps them for us like Deangelo did.
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its been quiet on his front for a bit now. I hope were still heavily persuing him.
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its been quiet on his front for a bit now. I hope were still heavily persuing him.
Our recruiting overall has been quiet.
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its been quiet on his front for a bit now. I hope were still heavily persuing him.
Our recruiting overall has been quiet.
Our coach is recovering from surgery and we are about start the season, our focus is on this year right now as it should be.
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We just have to regain the momentum. We had as much as any team in the country until the trio was ruled ineligible. We have been taking our lumps since.
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its been quiet on his front for a bit now. I hope were still heavily persuing him.
Our recruiting overall has been quiet.
Our coach is recovering from surgery and we are about start the season, our focus is on this year right now as it should be.
Um so college recruiting stops because the season is starting?
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We just have to regain the momentum. We had as much as any team in the country until the trio was ruled ineligible. We have been taking our lumps since.
We haven't taken any lumps since except losing arguably the #1 player in the country in Anderson. We have landed gathers and wood. I don't see any other lumps we've taken since then. We are expecting Amir in December at at point, and possibly Pelle next season. It's not like we have 5 ships to give and are resting on our laurels. I highly doubt it is the case. Not sure what people are expecting at this point. We have one ship or so to give and we haven't even hit the fall signing period yet.
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We just have to regain the momentum. We had as much as any team in the country until the trio was ruled ineligible. We have been taking our lumps since.
We haven't taken any lumps since except losing arguably the #1 player in the country in Anderson. We have landed gathers and wood. I don't see any other lumps we've taken since then. We are expecting Amir in December at at point, and possibly Pelle next season. It's not like we have 5 ships to give and are resting on our laurels. I highly doubt it is the case. Not sure what people are expecting at this point. We have one ship or so to give and we haven't even hit the fall signing period yet.
We have a lot more than 1 ship to give. You cannot count on the guys who didn't qualify. Sorry but you can't. Sure Amir is saying positive things but remember we are at the mercy of the NCAA. As for the other two I am NOT holding my breath.
As for it being quiet of course last year we were dealing with 9 ships and lots of attention. Things seems to be eerily quiet this year. Throw in rumblings on Gathers and the uneasiness is easy to explain.
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We just have to regain the momentum. We had as much as any team in the country until the trio was ruled ineligible. We have been taking our lumps since.
We haven't taken any lumps since except losing arguably the #1 player in the country in Anderson. We have landed gathers and wood. I don't see any other lumps we've taken since then. We are expecting Amir in December at at point, and possibly Pelle next season. It's not like we have 5 ships to give and are resting on our laurels. I highly doubt it is the case. Not sure what people are expecting at this point. We have one ship or so to give and we haven't even hit the fall signing period yet.
We have a lot more than 1 ship to give. You cannot count on the guys who didn't qualify. Sorry but you can't. Sure Amir is saying positive things but remember we are at the mercy of the NCAA. As for the other two I am NOT holding my breath.
As for it being quiet of course last year we were dealing with 9 ships and lots of attention. Things seems to be eerily quiet this year. Throw in rumblings on Gathers and the uneasiness is easy to explain.
I think "eerily" quiet is a bit of an exaggeration Moose. Just because we aren't landing players at a pace like we did last year means little. Like I said, we already have 2 top 100 kids on board for 2012. I'd agree with you if we had nobody signed at this point. As far as Amir goes, if he has the grades in requisite classes at Bridgton, I don't see the NCAA denying him a second time. They aren't going to pull the same nonsense they did with Rise classes with Bridgton.
Yes we'll have a few ships but I don't expect that all year will be quiet. We get involved pretty quickly when we're interested in a kid. Right now might be a bit quiet with Lavin having surgery and an illness. But I think it is the only reason things are so quiet.
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We just have to regain the momentum. We had as much as any team in the country until the trio was ruled ineligible. We have been taking our lumps since.
We haven't taken any lumps since except losing arguably the #1 player in the country in Anderson. We have landed gathers and wood. I don't see any other lumps we've taken since then. We are expecting Amir in December at at point, and possibly Pelle next season. It's not like we have 5 ships to give and are resting on our laurels. I highly doubt it is the case. Not sure what people are expecting at this point. We have one ship or so to give and we haven't even hit the fall signing period yet.
We have a lot more than 1 ship to give. You cannot count on the guys who didn't qualify. Sorry but you can't. Sure Amir is saying positive things but remember we are at the mercy of the NCAA. As for the other two I am NOT holding my breath.
As for it being quiet of course last year we were dealing with 9 ships and lots of attention. Things seems to be eerily quiet this year. Throw in rumblings on Gathers and the uneasiness is easy to explain.
I think "eerily" quiet is a bit of an exaggeration Moose. Just because we aren't landing players at a pace like we did last year means little. Like I said, we already have 2 top 100 kids on board for 2012. I'd agree with you if we had nobody signed at this point. As far as Amir goes, if he has the grades in requisite classes at Bridgton, I don't see the NCAA denying him a second time. They aren't going to pull the same nonsense they did with Rise classes with Bridgton.
Yes we'll have a few ships but I don't expect that all year will be quiet. We get involved pretty quickly when we're interested in a kid. Right now might be a bit quiet with Lavin having surgery and an illness. But I think it is the only reason things are so quiet.
As for Amir we don't know what happened with Rise. We just know him and the others didn't qualify. We don't know why and we might never find out.
I don't think eerily quiet is an exaggeration. It is. Yea last year we got involved late with everyone but we came out smelling like roses. Granted that was in April when Lavin was hired. We had a lot invested in Kyle and in late September he said no and we are without question playing bigger catch-up with '12 class. What's worse is we don't know the status of Amir, Pelle and Jakarr. No question a tough predicament. I know Lavin is out but that doesn't change the other staff members recruiting.
That all being said and back to the topic at hand I think we're still in extremely good shape with Wainwright. With the Jaron Rush and Earl Watson to Lavin connection I think we are in pretty good shape. I'd guess we see a 3 man class in '13.
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We just have to regain the momentum. We had as much as any team in the country until the trio was ruled ineligible. We have been taking our lumps since.
We haven't taken any lumps since except losing arguably the #1 player in the country in Anderson. We have landed gathers and wood. I don't see any other lumps we've taken since then. We are expecting Amir in December at at point, and possibly Pelle next season. It's not like we have 5 ships to give and are resting on our laurels. I highly doubt it is the case. Not sure what people are expecting at this point. We have one ship or so to give and we haven't even hit the fall signing period yet.
We have a lot more than 1 ship to give. You cannot count on the guys who didn't qualify. Sorry but you can't. Sure Amir is saying positive things but remember we are at the mercy of the NCAA. As for the other two I am NOT holding my breath.
As for it being quiet of course last year we were dealing with 9 ships and lots of attention. Things seems to be eerily quiet this year. Throw in rumblings on Gathers and the uneasiness is easy to explain.
I think "eerily" quiet is a bit of an exaggeration Moose. Just because we aren't landing players at a pace like we did last year means little. Like I said, we already have 2 top 100 kids on board for 2012. I'd agree with you if we had nobody signed at this point. As far as Amir goes, if he has the grades in requisite classes at Bridgton, I don't see the NCAA denying him a second time. They aren't going to pull the same nonsense they did with Rise classes with Bridgton.
Yes we'll have a few ships but I don't expect that all year will be quiet. We get involved pretty quickly when we're interested in a kid. Right now might be a bit quiet with Lavin having surgery and an illness. But I think it is the only reason things are so quiet.
As for Amir we don't know what happened with Rise. We just know him and the others didn't qualify. We don't know why and we might never find out.
I don't think eerily quiet is an exaggeration. It is. Yea last year we got involved late with everyone but we came out smelling like roses. Granted that was in April when Lavin was hired. We had a lot invested in Kyle and in late September he said no and we are without question playing bigger catch-up with '12 class. What's worse is we don't know the status of Amir, Pelle and Jakarr. No question a tough predicament. I know Lavin is out but that doesn't change the other staff members recruiting.
That all being said and back to the topic at hand I think we're still in extremely good shape with Wainwright. With the Jaron Rush and Earl Watson to Lavin connection I think we are in pretty good shape. I'd guess we see a 3 man class in '13.
I agree we are behind with the 12' class. The staff didn't expect to have this many ships to give for 12' with all those guys ineligible and Kyle choosing a different direction. There is still a lot of recruiting to be done in this class. I agree about Wainright, but he's 2013 and right now 2012 is the main priority. I think Obekpa could be a big pickup if we can get that done. We need more size, regardless.
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The team needs more size, to be sure.
And I think the quiet about recruiting may be in part because Lavin's not there to make contact and to feed reporters. Also, most of the impact talents for 2012 are spoken for or are heavy leans, especially with the big men. Obekpa and possibly Amile Jefferson are out there, but who else? No high-end point guards.
Maybe they're leaving room open for a midseason transfer possibility.
Maybe it's a good thing to worry less about 2012 for higher-impact recruits in 2013.
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The team needs more size, to be sure.
And I think the quiet about recruiting may be in part because Lavin's not there to make contact and to feed reporters. Also, most of the impact talents for 2012 are spoken for or are heavy leans, especially with the big men. Obekpa and possibly Amile Jefferson are out there, but who else? No high-end point guards.
Maybe they're leaving room open for a midseason transfer possibility.
Maybe it's a good thing to worry less about 2012 for higher-impact recruits in 2013.
I don't have a problem with a JC player or so either. They bridge the scholarship gaps for us and the staff landed two in GG and Lindsey who rare quite talented. I'm still pulling for Amir in December and Pelle in 12'. Wed be in great shape right there.
Hey, Aaron scales a 6'9" center just recommitted from missou. Maybe we can get involved as we need some size? Don't know much about him though, but bot sure he fits that ultra athletic mold we've been recruiting.
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We are expecting Amir in December at at point, and possibly Pelle next season. It's not like we have 5 ships to give and are resting on our laurels. I highly doubt it is the case. Not sure what people are expecting at this point. We have one ship or so to give and we haven't even hit the fall signing period yet.
I for one would like to have 12 players next season.
We have 7 returning(sorry I dont count White). If all 4 of Garrett, Pelle, Wood & Gathers
sign in 2 weeks, then we're fine cherry picking 1 or 2 more in spring.
But whats disturbing is there is NOT ONE other 2012 kid listing us
(other than Obekpa) if above 4 arent all here.
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No idea who this writer is - Josh Paunil ? - but he quotes Wainwright saying we're amongst his favorites. The article says Wainwright might look to goto Kentucky as part of a 3 player package with Kasey Hill and Julius Randal -- but when asked where he thought he would end up if they DON'T all goto the same school, Wainwright says
"“It would probably be between St. John’s and UCLA for me, I think Kasey would go to Florida and Julius would probably go to Kentucky,”
"Although the Red Storm and Bruins lead for Wainright, there are others who are standing out to him. “The ones standing out are UCLA, St. John’s, Louisville, Syracuse, West Virginia and Missouri,” says Wainright"
http://recruitingspotlight.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/wainright-says-he-hill-randle-could-commit-together-uk-is-most-likely/ (http://recruitingspotlight.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/wainright-says-he-hill-randle-could-commit-together-uk-is-most-likely/)
So it sounds like we're very much in the running for another big time wing.
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its been quiet on his front for a bit now. I hope were still heavily persuing him.
Our recruiting overall has been quiet.
Our coach is recovering from surgery and we are about start the season, our focus is on this year right now as it should be.
Um so college recruiting stops because the season is starting?
When you are spending 10 hours a day coaching and your head coach is out of action recruiting takes a back seat that is just reality of what is happening right now.
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The team needs more size, to be sure.
And I think the quiet about recruiting may be in part because Lavin's not there to make contact and to feed reporters. Also, most of the impact talents for 2012 are spoken for or are heavy leans, especially with the big men. Obekpa and possibly Amile Jefferson are out there, but who else? No high-end point guards.
Maybe they're leaving room open for a midseason transfer possibility.
Maybe it's a good thing to worry less about 2012 for higher-impact recruits in 2013.
I don't have a problem with a JC player or so either. They bridge the scholarship gaps for us and the staff landed two in GG and Lindsey who rare quite talented. I'm still pulling for Amir in December and Pelle in 12'. Wed be in great shape right there.
Hey, Aaron scales a 6'9" center just recommitted from missou. Maybe we can get involved as we need some size? Don't know much about him though, but bot sure he fits that ultra athletic mold we've been recruiting.
Scales is a big boy. Pretty agile though for a guy his size. Kind of reminds me of more athletic Markus Kennedy (Nova).
Downside is all 3 recruiting services had him as just 2 star.
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its been quiet on his front for a bit now. I hope were still heavily persuing him.
Our recruiting overall has been quiet.
Our coach is recovering from surgery and we are about start the season, our focus is on this year right now as it should be.
Um so college recruiting stops because the season is starting?
When you are spending 10 hours a day coaching and your head coach is out of action recruiting takes a back seat that is just reality of what is happening right now.
Were gonna have to agree to disagree here. Not discounting what is happening to Lavin, but you don't stop recruiting. There was still plenty of time all sumemr. There are enough staff members. Now Rico's injury might hurt him bouncing around a bit and put the onus on Chiles.
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its been quiet on his front for a bit now. I hope were still heavily persuing him.
Our recruiting overall has been quiet.
Our coach is recovering from surgery and we are about start the season, our focus is on this year right now as it should be.
Um so college recruiting stops because the season is starting?
When you are spending 10 hours a day coaching and your head coach is out of action recruiting takes a back seat that is just reality of what is happening right now.
Were gonna have to agree to disagree here. Not discounting what is happening to Lavin, but you don't stop recruiting. There was still plenty of time all sumemr. There are enough staff members. Now Rico's injury might hurt him bouncing around a bit and put the onus on Chiles.
I never said stop recruiting but with your top recruiter out and the season about to start it has to take a backseat to getting the players ready for the next game.
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Back to Ish. Bad news/Good news story. Apparently Wainwright, Kasey Hill and Julius Randle are thinking of being a package deal and if so the likely destination is Kentucky. However he says assuming no package deal he will likely land at SJU or UCLA and that UK (Calipari), SJU (Lavin) and UCLA are his 3 favorite staffs:
However, the trio has talked about that possibility extensively and have come up with a few schools in common that they all like. “Kentucky is one of the main schools and Kansas and I think Baylor,” Wainright says. “And Missouri too, Kasey likes Missouri but I didn’t think he liked them.”
There are also a couple schools in particular who are most likely to land the whole trio. Says Wainright, “I’d have to say Kentucky is the number one school, I think Baylor — me and Julius like Baylor — but I don’t know if Kasey does, all I know is Kentucky is the main school.”
However, if the trio doesn’t go to the same school, Wainright identified who he thought the favorite was to land each player. “It would probably be between St. John’s and UCLA for me, I think Kasey would go to Florida and Julius would probably go to Kentucky,” he adds.
Wainright also has a good idea of what he’s looking for in his potential college choice. “I want a good relationship with the coaching staff and with some of the players who are also coming in with me,” says Wainright. “[Kentucky head coach] John Calipari is my favorite coach, it’s either between him and [St. John’s head] coach [Steve] Lavin. I’ve been talking to Coach Lavin a lot lately. And UCLA, those are probably my top three favorite coaching staffs.”
http://recruitingspotlight.wordpress.com/ (http://recruitingspotlight.wordpress.com/)
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Article was posted earlier. Its definitely not the greatest news possible but at least were amongst his favorites and well get a visit or two.
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Article was posted earlier. Its definitely not the greatest news possible but at least were amongst his favorites and well get a visit or two.
Remember that package deal of Sampson and McGary to Kentucky?
Yeah that worked out well.
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Article was posted earlier. Its definitely not the greatest news possible but at least were amongst his favorites and well get a visit or two.
Remember that package deal of Sampson and McGary to Kentucky?
Yeah that worked out well.
Aree with moose on this one. Most of the time those deals don't come to fruition. It seems that Wainright likes SJU and UCLA the best barring an unlikely package deal to UK which it seems Randle is pushing. I think that in the SJU vs ucla department, we're probably ahead as Wainright seems to really like Lavin and there are some connections there. To me, the article seems quite encouraging.
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Article was posted earlier.
Where? On this board? I scrolled back and I don't see anything plus the article is dated 10/31.
Was it posted under a different thread?
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Article was posted earlier.
Where? On this board? I scrolled back and I don't see anything plus the article is dated 10/31.
Was it posted under a different thread?
5 posts before yours by Desco80.
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Article was posted earlier.
Where? On this board? I scrolled back and I don't see anything plus the article is dated 10/31.
Was it posted under a different thread?
5 posts before yours by Desco80.
Just saw it. Checked twice and must have missed it both times.
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Article was posted earlier. Its definitely not the greatest news possible but at least were amongst his favorites and well get a visit or two.
Remember that package deal of Sampson and McGary to Kentucky?
Yeah that worked out well.
Aree with moose on this one. Most of the time those deals don't come to fruition. It seems that Wainright likes SJU and UCLA the best barring an unlikely package deal to UK which it seems Randle is pushing. I think that in the SJU vs ucla department, we're probably ahead as Wainright seems to really like Lavin and there are some connections there. To me, the article seems quite encouraging.
Let me clarify, it is great news that were one of his favorites, it would be better news if his best friends weren't pulling for a package deal and if cal wasn't his favorite coach.
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Wainwright gave us a shout out on twitter and when someone asked him if he was still considering us he gave an emphatic yes
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ESPN is televising 3 HS games tonight and I believe the 9:30pm is our boy Ish Wainright from Montrose Christian.
Anyone interested in checking out a target, take a peak.
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Saw his game tonight and was impressed. Hes got a pro body, with great length and athleticism. His game reminds me of Justin Brownlee but a bit more outside orientated. I think he would fit in great in our system and hope were still high on his list.
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Ismail tweeted "Go St. Johns!" today during the game... Gotta like that we're at the forefront and on his radar. He's a fan which is a very good thing for us...
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Earl Watson instrumental in recruiting this gem. Also played a part in bringing Branch aboard.
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Earl Watson instrumental in recruiting this gem. Also played a part in bringing Branch aboard.
Good to hear. Heard he's fantastic. Love to land Wainright. Like I said, this kid is rooting for SJU and that is a very good thing.
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Per Alex Kline....
Ishmail Wainright lists Missouri, Texas, Florida, UCLA, St. John's, Kansas St, Baylor, Kansas, NC State, Texas A&M, Louisville & more.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/TheRecruitScoop/status/161630767028510720
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“@DanielJMartin_: #STJbb 2013 target Ish Wainright from Montrose... RT @Wainright24 At the GRown and St. Johns game .”
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“@DanielJMartin_: #STJbb 2013 target Ish Wainright from Montrose... RT @Wainright24 At the GRown and St. Johns game .”
And he wasn't there to see Georgetown... :)
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Latest article on scout.com. Says UCLA is out front now but is hoping to visit SJU this spring:
“I don’t have a list right now,” he said. “I’m going to make my list probably after the summer, probably in August.”
Ben Howland and the Bruins are among the schools showing the most interest, according to the four-star prospect.
“UCLA is probably the top gun right now,” he said. “They are showing more attention that anybody.”
“They’ve been to five of my games this year and a lot of my practices,” he added.
In the midst of a busy season, Wainright hasn’t been able to take many visits recently. He said he did attend a pair of Georgetown games this year.
“I haven’t scheduled any visits,” he said.
“In the spring I’m looking forward to visiting Syracuse, St. John’s and I also want to visit Florida,” Wainright added. “I want to go down to Florida. Kasey [Hill] wants me to come down and visit.”
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1164883.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1164883.html)
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Latest article on scout.com. Says UCLA is out front now but is hoping to visit SJU this spring:
“I don’t have a list right now,” he said. “I’m going to make my list probably after the summer, probably in August.”
Ben Howland and the Bruins are among the schools showing the most interest, according to the four-star prospect.
“UCLA is probably the top gun right now,” he said. “They are showing more attention that anybody.”
“They’ve been to five of my games this year and a lot of my practices,” he added.
In the midst of a busy season, Wainright hasn’t been able to take many visits recently. He said he did attend a pair of Georgetown games this year.
“I haven’t scheduled any visits,” he said.
“In the spring I’m looking forward to visiting Syracuse, St. John’s and I also want to visit Florida,” Wainright added. “I want to go down to Florida. Kasey [Hill] wants me to come down and visit.”
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1164883.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1164883.html)
Keeping Howland on the hot seat càn only help. Now if they get rid of him, it might be better than if Howland has a good year next season. ;)
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“@DanielJMartin_: #STJbb 2013 target Ish Wainright from Montrose... RT @Wainright24 At the GRown and St. Johns game .”
And he wasn't there to see Georgetown... :)
It looks like he had/has interest in Georgetown, too.
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“@DanielJMartin_: #STJbb 2013 target Ish Wainright from Montrose... RT @Wainright24 At the GRown and St. Johns game .”
And he wasn't there to see Georgetown... :)
It looks like he had/has interest in Georgetown, too.
Don't see him as a Georgetown type of kid but it doesn't hurt that he plays HS in their back yard. It also doesn't hurt to have him playing High SChool ball for a coach so close to Rico Hines. The UCLA interest could go away quick depending on what happens with the socially awkward Ben Howland.
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“@NealNieves: Surprised he dropped UCLA RT @JoshPaunilNRS Ishmail Wainright favoring four, Duke now involved http://t.co/pv4dV1s9 (http://t.co/pv4dV1s9)”
No mention of SJU.
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“@NealNieves: Surprised he dropped UCLA RT @JoshPaunilNRS Ishmail Wainright favoring four, Duke now involved http://t.co/pv4dV1s9 (http://t.co/pv4dV1s9)”
No mention of SJU.
Surprised he dropped both of us. We were the favorites.
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“@NealNieves: Surprised he dropped UCLA RT @JoshPaunilNRS Ishmail Wainright favoring four, Duke now involved http://t.co/pv4dV1s9 (http://t.co/pv4dV1s9)”
No mention of SJU.
So a week ago he said UCLA was the leader and SJU and Georgetown were deep in the mix and now a week later he is no longer even mentioning any of those schools?
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“@NealNieves: Surprised he dropped UCLA RT @JoshPaunilNRS Ishmail Wainright favoring four, Duke now involved http://t.co/pv4dV1s9 (http://t.co/pv4dV1s9)”
No mention
Surprised he dropped both of us. We were the favorites.
Starting to feel like a Mets fan. :)
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Would much rather have Jordan & Lawrence
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Would much rather have Jordan & Lawrence
Give me Domingo and Lawrence.
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Would much rather have Jordan & Lawrence
Give me Domingo and Lawrence.
Forgot about Domingo he looks like a stud
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Would much rather have Jordan & Lawrence
Give me Domingo and Lawrence.
Forgot about Domingo he looks like a stud
Domingo and severe 8)
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This kid is a stud I hope were not out of it
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“@NealNieves: Surprised he dropped UCLA RT @JoshPaunilNRS Ishmail Wainright favoring four, Duke now involved http://t.co/pv4dV1s9 (http://t.co/pv4dV1s9)”
No mention of SJU.
Surprised he dropped both of us. We were the favorites.
Weird...
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Maybe we dropped him
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Maybe we dropped him
Dropping a top ranked kid chalk full of Lavin connections (Watson, Rush, Hines)?
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Wainwright on ESPNU now. Small forward, built like a truck, plays like a point forward. He has a nice stroke, defends well and all in all looks like a real good player.
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Wainwright on ESPNU now. Small forward, built like a truck, plays like a point forward. He has a nice stroke, defends well and all in all looks like a real good player.
My favorite (former?) target for 2013. I really wanted this kid. He would have been a tremendous complement to the athletic wings already in the stable.
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Wainwright on ESPNU now. Small forward, built like a truck, plays like a point forward. He has a nice stroke, defends well and all in all looks like a real good player.
My favorite (former?) target for 2013. I really wanted this kid. He would have been a tremendous complement to the athletic wings already in the stable.
Agree. FWIW, Biancardi noted Missouri a few times as destination. I think he also mentioned Cuse. We'll see.
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Love his game. Really solid with the ball and build like a truck
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Interesting
“@TheRecruitScoop: Providence has offered Ishmail Wainright, a 2013 SF from Team Takeover (DC).”
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Duke just offered him as well.
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Duke just offered him as well.
I'm sure Providence fans think they will beat Duke for him
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Duke just offered him as well.
I'm sure Providence fans think they will beat Duke for him
the scary thing is you're not even joking. They will think they are going to beat them.
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Duke just offered him as well.
I'm sure Providence fans think they will beat Duke for him
the scary thing is you're not even joking. They will think they are going to beat them.
Then they will blame Duke for paying off Ishmail LOL
I would have loved to land this kid although Lawrence obviously more highly coveted due to his size.
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At least we are on list fwiw.
“@TheRecruitScoop: Arizona offered Ishmail Wainright tonight. Here's my story on the 2013 Team Takeover SF who has around 25 suitors - http://t.co/InVa1JTQ (http://t.co/InVa1JTQ)”
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At least we are on list fwiw.
“@TheRecruitScoop: Arizona offered Ishmail Wainright tonight. Here's my story on the 2013 Team Takeover SF who has around 25 suitors - http://t.co/InVa1JTQ (http://t.co/InVa1JTQ)”
Where just decoration
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Know we are not landing him, but he will be a solid player. Also has a great attitude and works hard.
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Per Kline Wainwright is down to 12 schools and no surprise SJU is not on the list: Florida, Syracuse, Baylor, UCLA, Ohio St, Duke, Oklahoma St, Texas, Arizona, Tulsa, NC St and SMU.
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Per Kline Wainwright is down to 12 schools and no surprise SJU is not on the list: Florida, Syracuse, Baylor, UCLA, Ohio St, Duke, Oklahoma St, Texas, Arizona, Tulsa, NC St and SMU.
Remember when STJ, Mizzou and Gtown lead? ha
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Per Kline Wainwright is down to 12 schools and no surprise SJU is not on the list: Florida, Syracuse, Baylor, UCLA, Ohio St, Duke, Oklahoma St, Texas, Arizona, Tulsa, NC St and SMU.
Remember when STJ, Mizzou and Gtown lead? ha
And Kansas as well as UCLA. And he talked about a package deal with some of his guys to Kentucky.
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Assume we are not in it for this kid, but I pass this on for folks with access.
“@NYCHoops: http://t.co/yR16g2tN (http://t.co/yR16g2tN) - Ishmail Wainright talks about the #RedStorm http://t.co/0yxFCcuz (http://t.co/0yxFCcuz) #STJBB #stjohns #bigeast”
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Assume we are not in it for this kid, but I pass this on for folks with access.
“@NYCHoops: http://t.co/yR16g2tN (http://t.co/yR16g2tN) - Ishmail Wainright talks about the #RedStorm http://t.co/0yxFCcuz (http://t.co/0yxFCcuz) #STJBB #stjohns #bigeast”
Along with those schools, Wainright said that he is also being pursued to some extent by the likes of Villanova, Georgetown, Arkansas, St. John's, Louisville, and Alabama. He said he holds offers from every school on both this list and the longer one.
"They were involved, but I haven't heard from them in a little while," Wainright said of the St. John's Red Storm.
Despite the fact that the Johnnies have been in touch much of late, Wainright said he would still be open to the Big East school.
"I'm pretty sure [I would be]," Wainright said. "It depends on how hard they come at me."
Wainright talked about his thoughts on St. John's at this point in time.
"They haven't been talking to me, but I really like coach [Steve] Lavin," Wainright said. "Their program is great. I have a guy [I know] from KC playing on the team right now, Jamal Branch. We grew up playing football on the same team."
Wainright, who said he no longer competes on the gridiron, noted that Branch is not trying to recruit him to come to St. John's.
"No, I haven't talked to him," Wainright said. "I just know him."
Asked about his thoughts on going to New York City for college, Wainright replied, "I've never been there. I wouldn't mind visiting."
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Thanks Moose!
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Sounds like we did not like our chances with him and have moved on.
He is all over the map. He just did an interview with the Duke site at scout.com and indicated how excited he was about getting a Duke offer recently.
Terrific talent, would be nice if we could get in tight with him again.
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Hearing we may not be dead yet with this kid fwiw.
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Hearing we may not be dead yet with this kid fwiw.
hope its true. Love his game
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Wainwright's school fwiw;
H“@DanielJMartin_: St. John's coach Steve Lavin to take part in coaching clinic at Montrose Christian on Oct. 6. Jay Wright, Tony Bennett also among attendees.”
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BTW-For the record it appears he spells his last name withOUT the second "W", W-A-I-N-R-I-G-H-T.
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dam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Larry Brown is having a home visit today with Ish Wainrigh
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dam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Larry Brown is having a home visit today with Ish Wainrigh
This I don't understand. If you're looking at Florida, Syracuse, Duke, UCLA, Arizona etc why even entertain SMU? They have no basketball success to rely on, there's no assurance Brown will still be there in 2 years, and they're stepping up into a conference were they're likely to struggle during your first few years in college. I don't see the upside, unless you really think Larry Brown is going to get you to the NBA. But I'd have a lot more faith in Thad Motta, Boehim, Donovan, Howland etc. They're still hungry, is Larry???
Makes no sense to me.
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dam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Larry Brown is having a home visit today with Ish Wainrigh
This I don't understand. If you're looking at Florida, Syracuse, Duke, UCLA, Arizona etc why even entertain SMU? They have no basketball success to rely on, there's no assurance Brown will still be there in 2 years, and they're stepping up into a conference were they're likely to struggle during your first few years in college. I don't see the upside, unless you really think Larry Brown is going to get you to the NBA. But I'd have a lot more faith in Thad Motta, Boehim, Donovan, Howland etc. They're still hungry, is Larry???
Makes no sense to me.
Ask the Harrison twins. They have smu in their final 3
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dam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Larry Brown is having a home visit today with Ish Wainrigh
This I don't understand. If you're looking at Florida, Syracuse, Duke, UCLA, Arizona etc why even entertain SMU? They have no basketball success to rely on, there's no assurance Brown will still be there in 2 years, and they're stepping up into a conference were they're likely to struggle during your first few years in college. I don't see the upside, unless you really think Larry Brown is going to get you to the NBA. But I'd have a lot more faith in Thad Motta, Boehim, Donovan, Howland etc. They're still hungry, is Larry???
Makes no sense to me.
Ask the Harrison twins. They have smu in their final 3
Return of the Pony Express?
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Larry Brown is having a home visit today with Ish Wainrigh
This I don't understand. If you're looking at Florida, Syracuse, Duke, UCLA, Arizona etc why even entertain SMU? They have no basketball success to rely on, there's no assurance Brown will still be there in 2 years, and they're stepping up into a conference were they're likely to struggle during your first few years in college. I don't see the upside, unless you really think Larry Brown is going to get you to the NBA. But I'd have a lot more faith in Thad Motta, Boehim, Donovan, Howland etc. They're still hungry, is Larry???
Makes no sense to me.
Ask the Harrison twins. They have smu in their final 3
Return of the Pony Express?
Has to be, why else would high level prospects go to SMU for a coach who changes addresses like I change shirts?
And I thought it was a forgone conclusion that the Harrisons would end up at Maryland? Isnt that the prevailing wisdom?
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“@AdamZagoria: Montrose Christian wing Ish Wainright was visited yesterday by #stjbb coach Steve Lavin, source tells @SNYtv”
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full story
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/09/19/jordan-to-visit-st-johns-lavin-visits-wainright/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/09/19/jordan-to-visit-st-johns-lavin-visits-wainright/)
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Love this kids game.
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We have Branch from Missouri on our side. And I believe Earl Watson is from Missouri too. We have some leverage.
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during an in home visit how many coaches are allowed?
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during an in home visit how many coaches are allowed?
Whatever the staff decides
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during an in home visit how many coaches are allowed?
Same rules as on the road.
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Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Everyone gets a ticket to hear the glory of His sound.
Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Get on board, hallelujah, no more need to run around.
Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Don't matter if you sinned, your soul will always be found.
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Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Everyone gets a ticket to hear the glory of His sound.
Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Get on board, hallelujah, no more need to run around.
Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Don't matter if you sinned, your soul will always be found.
The question is whether Ish will be in a New York State of Mind
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We have Branch from Missouri on our side. And I believe Earl Watson is from Missouri too. We have some leverage.
I believe he has said that Earl Watson is some sort of idol in his life.
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Crazy how we were basically out of the running for this kid (or so we thought), and now we're right back in the race. Kudos to Lavin and staff once again. This would be a big get.
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Crazy how we were basically out of the running for this kid (or so we thought), and now we're right back in the race. Kudos to Lavin and staff once again. This would be a big get.
More likely the recruiting gurus know less than they claim and to be clear I mean the media gurus not those that post on our board.
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Crazy how we were basically out of the running for this kid (or so we thought), and now we're right back in the race. Kudos to Lavin and staff once again. This would be a big get.
More likely the recruiting gurus know less than they claim and to be clear I mean the media gurus not those that post on our board.
Wainright stopped mentioning us. He totally changed his schools if you recall where he went from one week listing 3 schools the next week not including any of them. Things change. Priorities get shuffled. All it takes is one commitment to throw things awry.
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@AdamZagoria
Ish Wainright just called me to say he's cut his list to St. John's, Texas, Baylor and Ohio State. Story coming.
That is quite the company for STJ to be in. Feels good.
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Wow. The kid always sounded interested, it was just a matter of showing him some love. This would be a very nice get.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/09/27/ish-wainright-cuts-list-to-four/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/09/27/ish-wainright-cuts-list-to-four/)
Positive comments. Lets hope lavs impresses him at the clinic and then he comes up for Midnight madness
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/09/27/ish-wainright-cuts-list-to-four/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/09/27/ish-wainright-cuts-list-to-four/)
Positive comments. Lets hope lavs impresses him at the clinic and then he comes up for Midnight madness
with all our connections to him, Rico, Earl Watson, i think he's ours to lose.
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What I love about who coach targets is for the most part they all have a common theme, superior defenders. Dom, Amir, Jakarr, Obekpa, Branch etc. Rysheed Jordan and Ish are both considered amongst the best defenders in 2013. It aint gonna be easy for teams to score on us in the future
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@AdamZagoria
Ish Wainright just called me to say he's cut his list to St. John's, Texas, Baylor and Ohio State. Story coming.
That is quite the company for STJ to be in. Feels good.
Told you SJU wasn't dead with him...LOL!!!
Wow final 4 and Lavs gets to go head to head with Thad Matta...LOL!!!
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@AdamZagoria
Ish Wainright just called me to say he's cut his list to St. John's, Texas, Baylor and Ohio State. Story coming.
That is quite the company for STJ to be in. Feels good.
Told you SJU wasn't dead with him...LOL!!!
Wow final 4 and Lavs gets to go head to head with Thad Matta...LOL!!!
And only one of the four is flat-out dirty and negative on the recruiting trail, so I like our chances. I'm not sure who the other teams have graduating or definitely penciled in as declaring early, but I like our chances if it drags on. Let's just put on a good show for him this season.
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Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Everyone gets a ticket to hear the glory of His sound.
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Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Everyone gets a ticket to hear the glory of His sound.
Choz seems enthusiastic about this one. Gotta think he knows something we don't. Sign him up!
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Kid is really long. Artest type build but better athlete.
Montrose Christian Official 2011-12 Season Mixtape! W/ Ishmail Wainright, Justin Anderson & More! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK2wyhvjFn8#ws)
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I don't think Lavs will be happy till he's gotten a commit from a stud from every state. Lets see NY, Ill, Oh, Tx, Cal, Mich.... looking at Msri and penn throw in Nigeria, france and dom. rep. (overseas)
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Love that we are squarely in the mix for Wainwright after months of being totally out of it, but relative to the other three schools, anyone know or have a theory on which school represents our biggest competition?
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Love that we are squarely in the mix for Wainwright after months of being totally out of it, but relative to the other three schools, anyone know or have a theory on which school represents our biggest competition?
I doubt we were ever out of it at all. Much like we were never out of it with Jakarr, Obekpa and others. Just quiet assassins...
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Love that we are squarely in the mix for Wainwright after months of being totally out of it, but relative to the other three schools, anyone know or have a theory on which school represents our biggest competition?
I doubt we were ever out of it at all. Much like we were never out of it with Jakarr, Obekpa and others. Just quiet assassins...
You might be right. Lavin's track record certainly can't be ignored, and I know the recruiting process can be a long and winding road with some of these kids. That said, I would love Wainwright to come to STJ, but who knows whether his current "final four" school list won't change once again. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it did.
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Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Everyone gets a ticket to hear the glory of His sound.
I honestly believe that something completely unforseen would have to happen for him not to be a future Johnny.
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Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Everyone gets a ticket to hear the glory of His sound.
I honestly believe that something completely unforseen would have to happen for him not to be a future Johnny.
Good to hear. Another top 40 player if we do land him. Lavin's a beast and SJU poised to be top of the league, whatever league for quite a while.
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Can anyone doubt Lavins recruiting ability?
I think the biggest change for us fans is that it does seem like he flys under the radar and in today's day and age it's frustrating not to constantly hear us mentioned, but we keep sneaking up in the end.
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Can anyone doubt Lavins recruiting ability?
I think the biggest change for us fans is that it does seem like he flys under the radar and in today's day and age it's frustrating not to constantly hear us mentioned, but we keep sneaking up in the end.
It's pretty crazy. We don't really jump into the fray with tons of kids the way most teams do. Lavin definitely casts his net in a smaller pond and always seems to be high percentage. It's even crazier that if we somehow by chance lose out on all the kids we are currently recruiting(which we wont), I have no doubt we'd land excellent ones in the spring.
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i know its been discussed before, but how many schollies do we have for next year?
I count 2: GG and 1 open.
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As of right now I believe it's just 1 which is GG's.
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I gotta think that Earl Watson being from his hometown and sponsoring his AAU team is giving us a leg up in this race.
Now, who knows what the deciding factors will be for Ish, but having an NBA player tell you that this coach can get you to the league must give you confidence in that school.
On a side note would anyone here be shocked if Watson was on our staff in a few years? Totally unrelated to this recruitment, but it seems he's stayed in touch with coach Lavin as much as any of his former players. He was rumored before to be involved before Martin got the job, and I for one think that door may be open for him again in the near future. He can still earn a few more big checks from the NBA, but after that ?
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As of right now I believe it's just 1 which is GG's.
i thought Woods scholie offer was for this year too?
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As of right now I believe it's just 1 which is GG's.
i thought Woods scholie offer was for this year too?
Christian Jones took Wood's. Hooper eligible next year as well.
PS you know there's a scholarship distribution table on the main board, right? http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0)
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I gotta think that Earl Watson being from his hometown and sponsoring his AAU team is giving us a leg up in this race.
Now, who knows what the deciding factors will be for Ish, but having an NBA player tell you that this coach can get you to the league must give you confidence in that school.
On a side note would anyone here be shocked if Watson was on our staff in a few years? Totally unrelated to this recruitment, but it seems he's stayed in touch with coach Lavin as much as any of his former players. He was rumored before to be involved before Martin got the job, and I for one think that door may be open for him again in the near future. He can still earn a few more big checks from the NBA, but after that ?
He also plays for Stu Vetter, right? Rico's old coach. . .
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Can anyone doubt Lavins recruiting ability?
I think the biggest change for us fans is that it does seem like he flys under the radar and in today's day and age it's frustrating not to constantly hear us mentioned, but we keep sneaking up in the end.
Well, yes....about 90% of the UCLA fan base. :) It's been a full decade now. This exchange just appeared on a UCLA fan board. The original poster is referring to the ESPN report last week on Coach Lavin being declared cancer free, and looking forward to the season. The poster wrote:
"Great news for Lavin. Looks like he's cancer-free and ready to start coaching again."
The post drew only one response from the Bruin Faithfull: "What do you mean, "again"?
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Can anyone doubt Lavins recruiting ability?
I think the biggest change for us fans is that it does seem like he flys under the radar and in today's day and age it's frustrating not to constantly hear us mentioned, but we keep sneaking up in the end.
Well, yes....about 90% of the UCLA fan base. :) It's been a full decade now. This exchange just appeared on a UCLA fan board. The original poster is referring to the ESPN report last week on Coach Lavin being declared cancer free, and looking forward to the season. The poster wrote:
"Great news for Lavin. Looks like he's cancer-free and ready to start coaching again."
The post drew only one response from the Bruin Faithfull: "What do you mean, "again"?
Present company excluded, but a lot of Bruin fans seem to suck.
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Can anyone doubt Lavins recruiting ability?
I think the biggest change for us fans is that it does seem like he flys under the radar and in today's day and age it's frustrating not to constantly hear us mentioned, but we keep sneaking up in the end.
Well, yes....about 90% of the UCLA fan base. :) It's been a full decade now. This exchange just appeared on a UCLA fan board. The original poster is referring to the ESPN report last week on Coach Lavin being declared cancer free, and looking forward to the season. The poster wrote:
"Great news for Lavin. Looks like he's cancer-free and ready to start coaching again."
The post drew only one response from the Bruin Faithfull: "What do you mean, "again"?
Present company excluded, but a lot of Bruin fans seem to suck.
+1. I don't understand the hatred towards him. He was pretty successful there until his last season.
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Again, he's maybe the most hated coach out there that really never did anything wrong nor failed at his task. Dozens of other fan bases think Lavin can't coach either thanks to the UCLA fans. Truth is that it spread like wildfire back then. I think that even I believed it. I just finally realized that the numbers don't jive when trying to label him a horrible coach and failure.
This SJU job is the time for him to shine though. I'm not saying he's the next Izzo when drawing up plays, but I don't think there are many coaches out there who have his recruiting prowess, charisma and understanding of how to GM a program. He surrounds himself with great people because he knows they can help springboard him to the next level.
SJU a great job for him. Good tradition, fan base, and a program desperate to get back to the upper tier in one of the most amazing cities in the world. I will continue to thank UCLA fans for running him out of town, as we continue to rack up top 20-70 recruits and building a powerhouse.
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Again, he's maybe the most hated coach out there that really never did anything wrong nor failed at his task. Dozens of other fan bases think Lavin can't coach either thanks to the UCLA fans. Truth is that it spread like wildfire back then. I think that even I believed it. I just finally realized that the numbers don't jive when true to label m a horrible coach and failure.
This SJU job is the time for him to shine though. I'm not saying he's the next Izzo when drawing up plays, but I don't think there are many coaches out there who have his recruiting prowess, charisma and understanding of how to GM a program. He surrounds himself with great people because he knows they can help springboard him to the next level.
SJU a great job for him. Good tradition, fan base, and a program desperate to get back to the upper tier in one of the most amazing cities in the world. I will continue to thank UCLA fans for running him out of town, as we continue to rack up top 20-70 recruits and building a powerhouse.
Every day I thank the basketball gods more for Lavin because I truly believe this is the perfect situation for him and he's the perfect coach for us
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
#Stjbb coach Steve Lavin will meet today in Kansas City with Ish Wainright's parents, and will also watch his younger brother work out.
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Got to be a solid vibe from Ish to get Lavin to travel to KC to meet with his parents.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
#Stjbb coach Steve Lavin will meet today in Kansas City with Ish Wainright's parents, and will also watch his younger brother work out.
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Got to be a solid vibe from Ish to get Lavin to travel to KC to meet with his parents.
Another package deal?
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
#Stjbb coach Steve Lavin will meet today in Kansas City with Ish Wainright's parents, and will also watch his younger brother work out.
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Got to be a solid vibe from Ish to get Lavin to travel to KC to meet with his parents.
Another package deal?
The brother is ion 6th grade.....JK LOL
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
#Stjbb coach Steve Lavin will meet today in Kansas City with Ish Wainright's parents, and will also watch his younger brother work out.
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Got to be a solid vibe from Ish to get Lavin to travel to KC to meet with his parents.
I'm Going to Kansas City, Kansas City Here I Come...
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
#Stjbb coach Steve Lavin will meet today in Kansas City with Ish Wainright's parents, and will also watch his younger brother work out.
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Got to be a solid vibe from Ish to get Lavin to travel to KC to meet with his parents.
Just a thought.
Imagine you have a 17 year old son, and you meet Steve Lavin. One of the classiest most personable people in the game.
Next you meet Jim Boeheim. As a parent wouldn't you be concerned about what kind of environment you're putting your kid in?
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What's your guys take on ish compared to the wings we have already in Dom and amir. Is this a great addition down the road or is someone being recruited over?
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What's your guys take on ish compared to the wings we have already in Dom and amir. Is this a great addition down the road or is someone being recruited over?
Hard to say. I can't say I'm privy to any of the stuff behind the scenese, but Ishmail is 2 classes away from both Amir and Dom. I'm not sure "recruiting over" is exactly correct, but I'm sure that Lavin has a finger on the pulse of his team. Reloading on talent is something all the best teams do. Maybe he's looking at Ismail to potentially replace Samspon/Sanchez as well if he sees both being likely NBA players the next 2 years? Hard to say what the plan is, but I can't argue with bringing in kids the talent level of Wainright. Lavin getting it done in a serous way.
That said, meeting with Wainright's parents now seems to me a sign that we are very, very close. Maybe a verbal coming soon? We'll see...
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What's your guys take on ish compared to the wings we have already in Dom and amir. Is this a great addition down the road or is someone being recruited over?
I think he is slightly less athletic than those two but is much more fundamentally sound. Hes strong around the basket and is smart with the ball. I really like his game but whether or not he is of a high need is a good question.
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What's your guys take on ish compared to the wings we have already in Dom and amir. Is this a great addition down the road or is someone being recruited over?
I think he is slightly less athletic than those two but is much more fundamentally sound. Hes strong around the basket and is smart with the ball. I really like his game but whether or not he is of a high need is a good question.
Well stated!
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What's your guys take on ish compared to the wings we have already in Dom and amir. Is this a great addition down the road or is someone being recruited over?
i feel like amir is a decent bet to leave early (maybe even after this year). at some point, the reds will want him for a full year. if amir and sanchez or jakarr leave after this year, we have plenty of room for wainright and pointer.
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crud, pitino and louisville seem to have room for 23 players every year. keep recruiting elie players and somewhere the numbers will work out.
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There is always need for versatile too 25-40 players. He's a versatile basketball player in every way, and super long. Fantastic defender. I'd never turn away a kid like this if we can land him. We will have turnover, both to graduation, pros and maybe even a kid or two leave. Lavin has shown the ability to integrate lots of players well and keep most happy. Syracuse, Louisville and others are able to do the same. I think he should fit in perfectly. We should all welcome him with open arms because I think he's headed here. Great player and another kid who can lead us to the top of college ball.
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Oh this train is coming up, and it's Kansas City bound!
Get on board, hallelujah, no more need to run around.
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Zags saying he's taking an official to Ohio State this weekend. Hopefully he cancels and doesn't waste Matta's time... ;)
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What's your guys take on ish compared to the wings we have already in Dom and amir. Is this a great addition down the road or is someone being recruited over?
i feel like amir is a decent bet to leave early (maybe even after this year). at some point, the reds will want him for a full year. if amir and sanchez or jakarr leave after this year, we have plenty of room for wainright and pointer.
And remember the DOWNSIDE to no room for a freshman Wainright would be a Senior Sanchez, a Junior Amir, AND a sophomore Jakarr for the 2013-2014 season.
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What's your guys take on ish compared to the wings we have already in Dom and amir. Is this a great addition down the road or is someone being recruited over?
i feel like amir is a decent bet to leave early (maybe even after this year). at some point, the reds will want him for a full year. if amir and sanchez or jakarr leave after this year, we have plenty of room for wainright and pointer.
And remember the DOWNSIDE to no room for a freshman Wainright would be a Senior Sanchez, a Junior Amir, AND a sophomore Jakarr for the 2013-2014 season.
He's about 6'7" 230, right? I think he plays PF his first year, so no one is getting recruited over.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
#Stjbb coach Steve Lavin will meet today in Kansas City with Ish Wainright's parents, and will also watch his younger brother work out.
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Got to be a solid vibe from Ish to get Lavin to travel to KC to meet with his parents.
Just a thought.
Imagine you have a 17 year old son, and you meet Steve Lavin. One of the classiest most personable people in the game.
Next you meet Jim Boeheim. As a parent wouldn't you be concerned about what kind of environment you're putting your kid in?
How's Thad with parents? I think I've heard him actually say some funny stuff (at the very least I've read interesting quips), but not sure what his personality actually is. He definitely looks meaner than Lavin.
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I think BeeJay Anya is also visiting OSU this weekend.
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Zags saying he's taking an official to Ohio State this weekend. Hopefully he cancels and doesn't waste Matta's time... ;)
I hear he is headed to OSU this weekend and then possibly SJU the following weekend/Midnight Madness.
Ohio St/Nebraska football game in Columbus this weekend. Big recruiting weekend.
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What's your guys take on ish compared to the wings we have already in Dom and amir. Is this a great addition down the road or is someone being recruited over?
i feel like amir is a decent bet to leave early (maybe even after this year). at some point, the reds will want him for a full year. if amir and sanchez or jakarr leave after this year, we have plenty of room for wainright and pointer.
And remember the DOWNSIDE to no room for a freshman Wainright would be a Senior Sanchez, a Junior Amir, AND a sophomore Jakarr for the 2013-2014 season.
He's about 6'7" 230, right? I think he plays PF his first year, so no one is getting recruited over.
More 6'5 than 6'7
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“@AdamZagoria: 6-6 SF Ish Wainright of Montrose Christian will visit Ohio State this wknd & #stjbb later this month. Also looking at Texas & Baylor.”
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“@AdamZagoria: 6-6 SF Ish Wainright of Montrose Christian will visit Ohio State this wknd & #stjbb later this month. Also looking at Texas & Baylor.”
It does not look like he is coming for Midnight Madness but it does look like SJU is getting the last visit.
Zags just sent another tweet saying he is visiting OSU, Bayor, Texas and then SJU in that ORDER this month.
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“@AdamZagoria: 6-6 SF Ish Wainright of Montrose Christian will visit Ohio State this wknd & #stjbb later this month. Also looking at Texas & Baylor.”
It does not look like he is coming for Midnight Madness but it does look like SJU is getting the last visit.
Zags just sent another tweet saying he is visiting OSU, Bayor, Texas and then SJU in that ORDER this month.
Always love the last visit
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Love the last visit. It's Lavin's encore.
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Looks like he wont be at Montrose when Lavs gives his clinic.
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Sounds like we have a very good shot with this kid. If he gives a verbal would that only leave us with 1 more scholarship for Jordan/Lawrence/Martin? Also if let's say 3 out of 4 kids want to come here would we have to basically turn one of them down? And would it be Wainwright if it were a combo of, him, Jordan, Martin/Lawrence wanting to come here?
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Sounds like we have a very good shot with this kid. If he gives a verbal would that only leave us with 1 more scholarship for Jordan/Lawrence/Martin? Also if let's say 3 out of 4 kids want to come here would we have to basically turn one of them down? And would it be Wainwright if it were a combo of, him, Jordan, Martin/Lawrence wanting to come here?
I would guess it would be first come first served.
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Sounds like we have a very good shot with this kid. If he gives a verbal would that only leave us with 1 more scholarship for Jordan/Lawrence/Martin? Also if let's say 3 out of 4 kids want to come here would we have to basically turn one of them down? And would it be Wainwright if it were a combo of, him, Jordan, Martin/Lawrence wanting to come here?
A bird in the hand... All are top 50 or better forwards. Take the guy that will come. Figure the rest out as the season rolls towards the spring. Lavin and co. know how many they can give out and where the ships will come from, even if we don't. Take the first of 3 that will commit and it's all gravy. All are awesome players.
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Good luck to "Ish", taking SAT exam today.
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So he's not on a visit to Ohio St.?
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So he's not on a visit to Ohio St.?
Seems not, but who knows.
“@Wainright24: Off to bed . I got SAT tomorrow .!!”
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“@Wainright24: Now off to Ohio .!!” After SAT I assume.
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Built like a Linebacker
@Wainright24: We here #OhioState #BuckeyeNation http://t.co/aHFMMZQ6 (http://t.co/aHFMMZQ6)
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Built like a Linebacker
@Wainright24: We here #OhioState #BuckeyeNation http://t.co/aHFMMZQ6 (http://t.co/aHFMMZQ6)
Impressive pounding of nebraska. Hope Mr. Wainright not too big of a football fan. :)
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/two-visits-down-two-to-go-for-ish-wainright/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/two-visits-down-two-to-go-for-ish-wainright/)
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Alex Kline
BREAKING: 2013 Montrose Christian (MD) SF Ishmail Wainright informs me he has verbally committed to Baylor
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Damn. Thought we had a really good shot here. Sucks, but Jordan is the one I really really want.
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Damn. Thought we had a really good shot here. Sucks, but Jordan is the one I really really want.
Wow, a little shocked this didn't last longer. I thought we were going to land him.
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To be honest i'd rather have Jordan, Martin or Lawrence. I wish him luck though, seems like a good guy.
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Really thought we had him. I certainly prefer Lawrence and Martin imply because of their height, but always thought that Wainright was more likely. Good luck to him. Next...
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I'm sure he's a very good but it's hard to get too upset over losing a SF when we already have several of them.
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I'm sure he's a very good but it's hard to get too upset over losing a SF when we already have several of them.
Its the only reason why Im not taking it too hard. He's going to be really good though. Has that Kawhi Leonard feel to him. Extreme length for his size.
If we get Jordan, I'm good with this class. He's a really good prospect. 1 and done potential imo.
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I'm sure he's a very good but it's hard to get too upset over losing a SF when we already have several of them.
Its the only reason why Im not taking it too hard. He's going to be really good though. Has that Kawhi Leonard feel to him. Extreme length for his size.
If we get Jordan, I'm good with this class. He's a really good prospect. 1 and done potential imo.
I would like to us add a 6'11 center. I don't care if he's not a McD's AA. Let him learn.
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Always thought he was a STJ lean. Wasn't he supposed to finish off his visits with us this weekend? Baylor strikes again...
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I'm just as surprised as anyone here.
Out of the 4, i thought we had the best shot with him.
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I'm just as surprised as anyone here.
Out of the 4, i thought we had the best shot with him.
Agreed I am floored by this a little. Not that we cannot overcome it but just because as you said of the 4 if I was a betting man I would have said he was the one most likely to sign with SJU.
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Interesting since SJU is a Catholic school but apparently religion and "Christian atmosphere" were big reasons why he chose Baylor:
The 2013 6-foot-6 small forward out of Montrose Christian (MD), by way of Kansas City, gave a verbal commitment to Baylor.
"The Christian atmosphere and school separated it from everywhere else," he told Rivals.com. "My father, Calvin, and mother, Mary, are both very religious and my mother is a minister. We felt very comfortable with it in that regard."
"The staff is great and it is close to home. My family sat down and spoke about it and was all for it."
http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1424333 (http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1424333)
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Interesting since SJU is a Catholic school but apparently religion and "Christian atmosphere" were big reasons why he chose Baylor:
The 2013 6-foot-6 small forward out of Montrose Christian (MD), by way of Kansas City, gave a verbal commitment to Baylor.
"The Christian atmosphere and school separated it from everywhere else," he told Rivals.com. "My father, Calvin, and mother, Mary, are both very religious and my mother is a minister. We felt very comfortable with it in that regard."
"The staff is great and it is close to home. My family sat down and spoke about it and was all for it."
http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1424333 (http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1424333)
Baylor built on strong spiritual base.
http://www.baylor.edu/student_life/?_buref=661-48570 (http://www.baylor.edu/student_life/?_buref=661-48570)
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Interesting since SJU is a Catholic school but apparently religion and "Christian atmosphere" were big reasons why he chose Baylor:
The 2013 6-foot-6 small forward out of Montrose Christian (MD), by way of Kansas City, gave a verbal commitment to Baylor.
"The Christian atmosphere and school separated it from everywhere else," he told Rivals.com. "My father, Calvin, and mother, Mary, are both very religious and my mother is a minister. We felt very comfortable with it in that regard."
"The staff is great and it is close to home. My family sat down and spoke about it and was all for it."
http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1424333 (http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1424333)
Baylor built on strong spiritual base.
http://www.baylor.edu/student_life/?_buref=661-48570 (http://www.baylor.edu/student_life/?_buref=661-48570)
Oh I absolutely know about Baylor but I just found it ironic that maybe if he had visited SJU and found out about the Catholic tradition here he may have been swayed by that as well.
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oh well, next. Trust Lavs has a plan a b and c for the ships for next yr.
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Would have liked Wainwright, but as people have already stated, I prefer a PF/C in this class as opposed to a SF.
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We didn't need Ish, but I thought we had him. Oh well, it's going to be tough to get Jordan and Martin. Got to put full court press on Lawrence. I assume 2 ships but we probably need to get involved with a few other kids.
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We need to go on the Providence board and see who they are sure they are getting. He's probably ours. ;D
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More room for Lawrence/ Martin & Jordan
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Wainwright is just as coveted as pointer was when he was coming out, we don't need him we have dom
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I would have loved to have him. I had a good feeling about him, much better feeling than I have with the other often mentioned recruits. I'm sure Lav will have another great recruiting year regardless.
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We didn't need Ish, but I thought we had him. Oh well, it's going to be tough to get Jordan and Martin. Got to put full court press on Lawrence. I assume 2 ships but we probably need to get involved with a few other kids.
Think you're right Ted. No reason to panic, but getting Jordan, Martin and Jermaine will be tough. Wouldn't be surprised if we open our net a little wider just to protect ourselves.
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We didn't need Ish, but I thought we had him. Oh well, it's going to be tough to get Jordan and Martin. Got to put full court press on Lawrence. I assume 2 ships but we probably need to get involved with a few other kids.
Think you're right Ted. No reason to panic, but getting Jordan, Martin and Jermaine will be tough. Wouldn't be surprised if we open our net a little wider just to protect ourselves.
I don't think we'll land all 3 but IMO, we don't have to. I'd love to just land Rysheed Jordan right now and all the rest falls into place. Jordan is a big timer and we need a kid like that at guard. Jordan is explosive and different from guards we currently have. IMO, he's the biggest need. Land Jordan and the rest is gravy.
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We didn't need Ish, but I thought we had him. Oh well, it's going to be tough to get Jordan and Martin. Got to put full court press on Lawrence. I assume 2 ships but we probably need to get involved with a few other kids.
Think you're right Ted. No reason to panic, but getting Jordan, Martin and Jermaine will be tough. Wouldn't be surprised if we open our net a little wider just to protect ourselves.
I'm sure we already have. I would be extremely surprised if we dont get at least one of Jordan/Martin/Lawrence
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Interesting since SJU is a Catholic school but apparently religion and "Christian atmosphere" were big reasons why he chose Baylor:
The 2013 6-foot-6 small forward out of Montrose Christian (MD), by way of Kansas City, gave a verbal commitment to Baylor.
"The Christian atmosphere and school separated it from everywhere else," he told Rivals.com. "My father, Calvin, and mother, Mary, are both very religious and my mother is a minister. We felt very comfortable with it in that regard."
"The staff is great and it is close to home. My family sat down and spoke about it and was all for it."
http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1424333 (http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1424333)
Baylor built on strong spiritual base.
http://www.baylor.edu/student_life/?_buref=661-48570 (http://www.baylor.edu/student_life/?_buref=661-48570)
Oh I absolutely know about Baylor but I just found it ironic that maybe if he had visited SJU and found out about the Catholic tradition here he may have been swayed by that as well.
Being that his Mom's a minister I'm betting he's not Catholic.
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It was really great to watch Ishmail wainwirght in Raytown, MO. Anyone here knows that when will be the next basketball tournament will held in Raytown?
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Forgot all about this kid. Only averaging 10 minutes a game this year.