6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: stormwarning on November 09, 2012, 10:19:57 PM
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holy crap, is rutgers horrible. enough said. also caught the uconn game. even though they won, its obvious they only have four players who could play. and i'm including omar calhoun even though he was invisible today. they jumped all over mich st. but as soon as they started rotating players in, mich st. came right back. i don't see them being competitive with a rough big east schedule.
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Like that backcourt though...
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Georgetown / Florida game on boat called at half, wet floor. These games are a bad idea. What's next playing on a wildlife preserve in Kenya?
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Georgetown / Florida game on boat called at half, wet floor. These games are a bad idea. What's next playing on a wildlife preserve in Kenya?
Would Obama go?
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Coach Crazy look like he auditioning for a place on Glee.
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Like that backcourt though...
catch 22. for them to be good, they need to play a high energy game. but they also need to stay on the court for 40 minutes. good luck with that over an entire big east schedule. we had a deeper team last year, to put things in perspective. they should name that bench the fiscal cliff.
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Georgetown / Florida game on boat called at half, wet floor. These games are a bad idea. What's next playing on a wildlife preserve in Kenya?
Why doesn't the ncaa just schedule all games like the NHL schedules the Winter Classic-outdoors on ice so they than can just cancel all the games when the playing surface proves too slippery? ::)
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Coach Crazy look like he auditioning for a place on Glee.
You talking about Calhoun? Dude looked coked-up to me on the half time broadcast. He was out of his mind.
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I thought Uconn looked good for the first game. I agree they have no bench but the back court looked strong and both Daniels and Olander (sp?) Looked good at points
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I thought Uconn looked good for the first game. I agree they have no bench but the back court looked strong and both Daniels and Olander (sp?) Looked good at points
I've also never seen a Michigan State defense look sooo bad. Uconn was driving around the Michigan State players like they were planted in the ground and tons of open shots. Agree they Uconn looked prepared, but I'm still not sold on their frontcourt at all. They'll struggle when teams don't give them as many easy looks as they got last night. I do have to say though is that it is a fantastic win for our conference and Ollie is much easier to root for than Calhoun.
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I heard from a St Peters Alum that the Peacocks are picked to finish last in one poll. So much for the pre-season polls.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Per source, x-rays of Seton Hall's Patrik Auda confirm break of 5th metatarsal. Expected to miss the rest of the season and redshirt. #shbb”
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it seems like the league has had more of its share of bad luck the past couple of years...losing key guys for a variety of reasons. especially during out of conference play. i would argue that out of conference play is more important than conference play...because out of conference play determines how many teams in your conference will make the tourney. the league sent eleven teams to the tourney a couple of seasons ago because they ripped up the other conferences.
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Saw Cincy play two games & am quite impressed. Sean K. is a monster, they have nice size, play tough D and IMO will go a long way in tourney sans injuries. Cronin, like him or not, has built a program. Juco transfer Rubles is a gifted power player.
“@BigEastMBB: Cincinnati G Cashmere Wright named MVP of the Global Sports Classic after leading Bearcats to the title - 17 points vs. Oregon in final.”
“@tsnmike: Nice recovery for Cincinnati after blowing 19-pt lead. Titus Rubles played fantastic in arena that's often been kind to jukes.”
BTW, Jermaine Lawrence visiting Vegas had a chance to see Cincy up close as well. It was a great atmosphere at this tourney. Good BBall town.
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Saw that Nova lost to Columbia by 18 the other day
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I guess this is why Pitino has a thirty man roster.
“@GoodmanCBS: Severity of Gorgui Dieng's wrist injury still unknown until Louisville returns home later today: http://t.co/Z6KxAC1E (http://t.co/Z6KxAC1E)”
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Nova blows game and loses to LaSalle in OT.
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Nova blows game and loses to LaSalle in OT.
Someone told me the inmates on Nova board are getting restless.
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UConn down by 5 to Stoney Brook at half.
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“@CardChronicle: X-Ray Reveals Gorgui Dieng Has A Broken Left Wrist http://t.co/xECOhtmR (http://t.co/xECOhtmR)”
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“@CardChronicle: X-Ray Reveals Gorgui Dieng Has A Broken Left Wrist http://t.co/xECOhtmR (http://t.co/xECOhtmR)”
That's a huge loss. Too bad.
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“@ECoastBias: Just seeing that Trey Ziegler of Pitt was charged with a DUI yesterday. http://t.co/qLm9t62F (http://t.co/qLm9t62F)”
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Latest on Dieng, Tough injury, Pitino may be a bit too optimistic on time frame IMO.
Nov. 25, 2012
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - University of Louisville center Gorgui Dieng will be out four-to-six weeks while recovering from a broken wrist he suffered last Friday.
"With a little luck, Gorgui will be back by the start of our BIG EAST schedule," said UofL Coach Rick Pitino. "We will miss his defensive presence and passing ability, but it is time for other guys to step up their performances."
Dr. Luis Scheker of the Kleinert Kutz Hand Care Center in Louisville will perform surgery on Tuesday to insert a screw in Dieng's broken scaphoid bone in his left wrist. Dieng fell while taking a charge early in the first half of the Cardinals' 84-61 victory over No. 13 Missouri on Friday in the Battle 4 Atlantis. He returned to the game with his wrist taped and played a total of 24 minutes, but sat out the championship game against Duke on Saturday.
Dieng is averaging 8.2 points, 8.0 rebounds and two rebounds through five games this season. He produced his 13th career double-double against Samford with 10 points, 13 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 blocks and 3 steals. Dieng is a preseason All-BIG EAST selection and is among the top 50 preseason candidates for the Wooden Award and Naismith Award.
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“@ECoastBias: Just seeing that Trey Ziegler of Pitt was charged with a DUI yesterday. http://t.co/qLm9t62F (http://t.co/qLm9t62F)”
What's up with Pitt. Their two "stud" newcomers, Steven Adams ("sure lotto pick") and Trey Zeigler, haven't been so studly. 6 games in Adams is getting 7 pts and 4 rebs, and Shooting Guard Zeigler is getting just 6 pts, and has yet to sink a 3!
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Robinson from Dematha, however, is playing great.
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“@raphiellej: 27 turnovers for Seton Hall and they lose 72-67 at LSU.”
Marquette also smoked by Florida.
ND beats Kentucky
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"Will be Movin on Up"
Conference power rankings: Big East
November, 30, 2012
By Dana O'Neil | ESPN.com
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The early season is always hard to judge -- what with some teams playing tougher teams than others. So you have to rate not only the result but also the opponents teams played and how they played them.
Hence the first week hodgepodge of Big East power rankings:
1. Syracuse. Usually it’s hard to know just how good the Orange is early in the season, since Jim Boeheim rarely crosses the New York border in November. But Syracuse’s opening demolition of San Diego State was telling. As is Michael Carter-Williams. The point guard is averaging 9.3 assists per game.
2. Louisville. Yes, the Cards lost to Duke, but they lost to Duke without Gorgui Dieng and so there has to be an asterisk attached here. Anyone who has watched Louisville play knows this is a formidable team, and maybe the best defensively in the country.
3. Notre Dame. The loss to a good Saint Joseph’s team in Brooklyn hurts, but the ridiculously impressive win against Kentucky erases any of the bad. When the Irish can execute Mike Brey’s thought out game plans, their combo of talent and experience will be tough to beat.
4. Georgetown. The surprise team to everyone but themselves, the Hoyas opened some eyes in Brooklyn, beating UCLA and taking Indiana to overtime. Otto Porter is probably the early clubhouse leader for league player of the year.
5. Cincinnati. Sean Kilpatrick is on fire and so are the Bearcats. Paced by Kilpatrick’s 21 points per game, Cincinnati is seventh in the country in scoring, averaging 86.8 per game. The win against Oregon was good but would have been nice to see how the running Bearcats handled the Runnin’ Rebels of UNLV as a good gauge.
6. Pittsburgh. Tray Woodall is healthy, Talib Zanna is inspired and the Panthers are back. The most telling evidence? Pitt’s los to Michigan, where the Panthers were in the ballgame in the final minute, ultimately done in by free throws.
7. UConn. Let’s face it, the Huskies are playing with house money. No one expects much out of embattled UConn this year, yet Kevin Ollie’s squad already has one big win -- against Michigan State -- and has rolled to a 6-1 record (struggles against Quinnipiac and New Hampshire notwithstanding). Another big test this week when the Huskies face NC State in the Jimmy V Classic.
8. Marquette. Buzz Williams’ squad had a lot of rebuilding to do, what with losing the Big East player of the year and league leading scorer, so this isn’t terribly surprising. The Golden Eagles had been competitive until they faced their first real test in the form of a buzzsaw Florida team, which exposed their weaknesses.
9. St. John’s. The young Red Storm have work to do, evidenced by their losses to the two better teams in the early going (Murray State and Baylor), but this is a team with a huge upside as the season progresses.
10. Seton Hall. The Pirates had a chance to secure a decent win against LSU on Thursday night, leading in the SEC/Big East Challenge game by as many as 16. Instead SHU came up empty with too many end-of-game turnovers, and still lack even a moderately signature win.
11. South Florida. The Bulls are still very good defensively and still woeful offensively. In their two losses -- to Central Florida and Western Michigan -- they scored 56 and 53 points, respectively. That eventually has to change.
12. Rutgers. The Scarlet Knights are 4-1. Their opponents are a combined 9-20 in the MAAC, NEC, Ivy League, America East and Southern conferences. So take that record for what it’s worth.
13. Providence. Give Ed Cooley credit. With little to work with -- Vincent Council is out four weeks with a hamstring injury -- the Friars are at least beating the teams they are supposed to beat.
14. DePaul. Every year the Blue Deacons think this is the year and then it’s not. Despite Cleveland Melvin and Brandon Young’s best efforts, DePaul is 3-3.
15. Villanova. The Wildcats lost to Columbia ... by 18. The Lions -- a team that lost by 20 to San Francisco -- were picked to finish third in the Ivy League. Need we say more.
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Marquette sucks. So does Seton Hall.
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Marquette sucks. So does Seton Hall.
We are better than Marquette and Uconn so right now I would have us 7.
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Imo UConn will fade as well with no interior defense.
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“@Kieran_Lynch: #stjbb currently ranks 44 in SOS, according to http://t.co/yEs6zRfQ (http://t.co/yEs6zRfQ)”
“@Kieran_Lynch: #stjbb has a good balance of opponents at this point. Enough to test them, but not overwhelming by any stretch.”
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I like those rankings. Seem pretty accurate to me. I always thought gtown was being underrated in the preseason. I think we are in the 7-9 range but have no problem with 9 right now.
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right now cinci looks like the best team to me so far.
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right now cinci looks like the best team to me so far.
Big win for ND...but they will drop as season goes on and they play more road games...they are the ultimate home team...
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I like those rankings. Seem pretty accurate to me. I always thought gtown was being underrated in the preseason. I think we are in the 7-9 range but have no problem with 9 right now.
They beat utenn 37-36, no baskets made from either team for last4:10
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I like those rankings. Seem pretty accurate to me. I always thought gtown was being underrated in the preseason. I think we are in the 7-9 range but have no problem with 9 right now.
They beat utenn 37-36, no baskets made from either team for last4:10
They also beat UCLA and took the #1 team to OT.
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And played Florida even for a half
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No different then SJU can look oh so good or awful
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“@ESPNAndyKatz: Wow. Cincinnati's Cashmere Wright with the buzzer-beater to take down Alabama, 58-56.”
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By my count Big East won the challenge 9-3. I'm suprised anyone other than Florida won.
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By my count Big East won the challenge 9-3. I'm suprised anyone other than Florida won.
Wasn't surprised to see Rutgers lose. They look awful.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to D'Angelo Harrison on his third-straight BIG EAST Honor Roll nod. Hattrick after opening 2012-13 w/ 7-of-8 20-point games! #stjbb”
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Nova blog lacing into Jay Wright. BTW, watched Temple/Nova game. Dunphy continues to impress.
“@VUhoops: FINAL: Temple Blows Out Villanova 76-61 http://t.co/ktJq1BD9 (http://t.co/ktJq1BD9)”
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Nova blog lacing into Jay Wright. BTW, watched Temple/Nova game. Dunphy continues to impress.
“@VUhoops: FINAL: Temple Blows Out Villanova 76-61 http://t.co/ktJq1BD9 (http://t.co/ktJq1BD9)”
"Most troubling however, is the clear lack of coaching during the halftime break. While Fran Dunphy made the necessary adjustments to put his team in a position to win, Villanova appeared to regress significantly in both their gameplan and execution, which falls squarely on coach Jay Wright."
A perfect example of the "half time adjustment" canard.
Villanova was leading by 4 at half time, having shot + 50 percent from the floor. They shot 33 percent for the game, meaning they shot like 10 percent in the second half. They didn't score a field goal for the first ten minutes of the second half going 0-10 from the floor and made 7 FGs total. That sort of ineptitude has nothing to do with a half time speech or any sort of strategic tweak or adjustment, unless the author thinks Wright failed to remind them at half to throw the round thing in the hole.
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A perfect example of the "half time adjustment" canard.
Quote from MCNPA's best friend
I agree with you to a point. Most times it comes down to execution, one team playing better that particular game or one team just being better. I think coaching comes into play more leading up to games. However sub patterns and defenseadjustments will have an effect on the game. It might not always result in the difference between a win or loss but it def affects the game. In regards to coach I think he stays to long in the zone and sometimes his sub patterns do not seem to make the most sense. Lavin knows more about basketball than anyone on the board so I am sure he has reasons for some of this, but coaches can sometimes be stubborn.
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A perfect example of the "half time adjustment" canard.
Quote from MCNPA's best friend
I agree with you to a point. Most times it comes down to execution, one team playing better that particular game or one team just being better. I think coaching comes into play more leading up to games. However sub patterns and defenseadjustments will have an effect on the game. It might not always result in the difference between a win or loss but it def affects the game. In regards to coach I think he stays to long in the zone and sometimes his sub patterns do not seem to make the most sense. Lavin knows more about basketball than anyone on the board so I am sure he has reasons for some of this, but coaches can sometimes be stubborn.
It's difficult to know what to make of you. On the one hand, as an outstandinng student high school and college athlete your opinions are deserving of respect and admiration. On the other, your troubling inability to properly use the quote function suggests that you are suffering from mental disability or defect. It's a conundrum.
Anyway, I'm not saying that game coaching is unimportant. That would be silly. What I'm saying is that if you come and shoot 10-10 in the first half and come out and do exactly the same things and shoot 0-10 in the second, it's silly to blame that on coaching, and especially an "adjustment", which suggests a slight tweak in game strategy or planning. I didn't see the game but I suspect Jay Wright, who was ahead at the half, suggested to his team that they continue scoring more points than the other team. There's no strategy, whether in game or at half time, that's going to coach up a team that doesn't score a basket in the first 11 minutes of the 2nd half and if there were an adjustment Wright could have made that would have resulted in his team scoring he'd probably have implemented it.
Regarding TGAPL, I think he has a defensive system that he thinks is going to work long term and he's implementing it. Is Boeheim 'stubborn' if he plays a 2-3, even when Syracuse is getting hosed?
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"Regarding TGAPL, I think he has a defensive system that he thinks is going to work long term and he's implementing it. Is Boeheim 'stubborn' if he plays a 2-3, even when Syracuse is getting hosed?"
Quote from first person on the board to ever use both conundrum and canard in the same thread
I knew you were going to use Smiley Jim. Once you win the National championship you can do whatever you want and it and shouldn't be questioned. At least it won't by me. Even so couple years ago they came out of the zone and played man all game against ND if you remember.
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Latest ESPN BE ratings;
The top of the league is rock-solid strong, with six nationally relevant programs in Syracuse, Louisville, Cincinnati, Georgetown, Notre Dame and, yes, I’m buying -- Pittsburgh.
After that, things already are muddy. Connecticut is better than anyone expected but irrelevant in the national picture, and Marquette remains a work in progress.
Everyone else has some major work to do.
1. Syracuse. With James Southerland doing a good Dion Waiters impression, starring as the sixth man, the Orange keep steamrolling the competition, getting Jim Boeheim within single digits of his 900th win in the process. Arkansas is the only team that has gotten within single digits of Syracuse this season. And the Razorbacks lost by nine.
2. Louisville. The Cards turned up their trademark withering defense against Charleston (the same team that beat Baylor, which beat Kentucky, if you’re into transitive theory), holding the Cougars to 38 points and forcing 27 turnovers. The only caveat: Louisville still isn’t great offensively. The Cards hit only four of 14 shots from behind the arc. Next up: UMKC.
3. Cincinnati. The Bearcats are quietly sensational. With Cashmere Wright saving the day with a buzzer-beating jumper against Alabama, Cincinnati remains undefeated, relying on a three-guard lineup that is as potent as any in the country.
4. Georgetown. Everyone wanted to talk about the Hoyas’ awful offense in the 37-36 victory against Tennessee last week. Fair enough. It was brutal. But the defense was impressive, as it was Tuesday against Texas, limiting the Longhorns to only 41. Georgetown is already very good offensively. The D could make for a scary combo.
5. Notre Dame. The scheduling gods were kind to the Irish -- offering them more than a week to savor the win against Kentucky. Notre Dame returns to action against Brown on Saturday.
6. Pittsburgh. The Panthers keep rolling, and in the process, they are coming up with a pretty sweet inside-outside package in the form of Tray Woodall and Talib Zanna. The point guard and the forward have been solid all season for Pitt, which sits at 8-1.
7. Connecticut. The Huskies' guards, Shabazz Napier and Ryan Boatright, are sensational. The question: Can they be enough for the long haul? That’s the biggest issue for UConn and coach Kevin Ollie these days, evidenced in the loss to North Carolina State, in which the Huskies were simply outmuscled inside.
8. Marquette. The Golden Eagles had the week off, welcome especially after the news that alum and former assistant Rick Majerus had died. Now Buzz Williams' team needs to regroup for Saturday's game against in-state rival Wisconsin. Marquette likes to score -- but can it against the Badgers?
9. Providence. Freshman Kris Dunn is still out with a shoulder injury, but the Friars keep winning. With seven scholarship players -- including a hampered Bryce Cotton -- Providence beat Rhode Island easily Thursday. And every day is closer to Dunn returning.
10. DePaul. The Blue Demons are on a three-game win streak, and while the quality of competition leaves much to be desired, building confidence is crucial right now if DePaul is going to make any strides come Big East time. The feasting should continue Sunday against two-win Milwaukee.
11. South Florida. That the Bulls have no inside game isn’t surprising -- Gus Gilchrist is gone -- but it’s still an absolute killer for Stan Heath’s squad. South Florida simply couldn’t compete on the glass against Oklahoma State, and until USF can find at least some semblance of a paint presence, it will be tough sledding.
12. St. John’s. The Red Storm keep building themselves large holes to climb out of. The problem: Sometimes you can’t finish that climb, especially if you’re not that adept at scoring to begin with. That’s why St. John’s took a bad loss against San Francisco. The Red Storm can cure what ails them against one-win Fordham in the Holiday Festival on Saturday.
13. Seton Hall. The Pirates needed a late 3-pointer to seal a victory Tuesday against New Jersey Institute of Technology. That’s not going to instill fear in anyone. Fuquan Edwin can’t do it alone, although he’s trying.
14. Rutgers. When Eli Carter can’t score, the Scarlet Knights can’t win. Plain and simple. Carter went 1-of-12, including 0-for-6 from 3-point range, and Rutgers lost Saturday at Ole Miss. That’s too much pressure on Carter.
15. Villanova. Things are not pretty on the Main Line, where the Wildcats are simply a mess. Yes, Villanova beat Vanderbilt, but that says as much about the Commodores’ struggles as it does Villanova’s strengths. This is a team without a rudder right now, ineffective defensively and confused offensively -- and rival Saint Joseph’s is salivating at all of that ahead of their meeting Tuesday.
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providence is playing better than i expected considering how thin they are. if ledo and henton are on the team next year, they're gonna be real tough to beat. that's a big if though.
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G' Town beat Towson in close game 46 - 40. It was close all the way. Skerry, ably assisted by former SJU Coach Kevin Clark, is doing a nice job at Towson.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Official @ncaastats: #STJBB second in the nation w/ 9.0 blocks per game. Obekpa third w/ 4.9 per game, Sampson 103rd 1.7 per game.”
“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB also 10th nationally w/ 10.3 TOs per game, amazing for fast-pace! 31st nationally with a +3.9 TO margin, 43rd with a 1.24 ATO ratio.”
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“@STJ_Basketball: Official @ncaastats: #STJBB second in the nation w/ 9.0 blocks per game. Obekpa third w/ 4.9 per game, Sampson 103rd 1.7 per game.”
“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB also 10th nationally w/ 10.3 TOs per game, amazing for fast-pace! 31st nationally with a +3.9 TO margin, 43rd with a 1.24 ATO ratio.”
I have to question what is meant by fast pace. I'm still waiting to see our fast pace.
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“@STJ_Basketball: RT @BigEastMBB: Check out the video highlighting our Players of the Week http://t.co/W2Qmv2Ny (http://t.co/W2Qmv2Ny) #stjbb”
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“@STJ_Basketball: Official @ncaastats: #STJBB second in the nation w/ 9.0 blocks per game. Obekpa third w/ 4.9 per game, Sampson 103rd 1.7 per game.”
“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB also 10th nationally w/ 10.3 TOs per game, amazing for fast-pace! 31st nationally with a +3.9 TO margin, 43rd with a 1.24 ATO ratio.”
Well, we fall behind pretty fast.
I have to question what is meant by fast pace. I'm still waiting to see our fast pace.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Starting Five: St. John's, Michael Carter-Williams and the A-10 NCAA Tournament chances http://t.co/edKHv8sy (http://t.co/edKHv8sy) via @nypost”
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Braziller: It's not just two games. St. John's struggles go back further than that, nearly losing to Holy Cross and Florida Gulf Coast as well.
Read more: - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4 (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4)
I know these two were tighter than many of us expected or would have liked but double digit wins in both does not qualify as nearly losing.
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Braziller: It's not just two games. St. John's struggles go back further than that, nearly losing to Holy Cross and Florida Gulf Coast as well.
Read more: - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4 (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4)
I know these two were tighter than many of us expected or would have liked but double digit wins in both does not qualify as nearly losing.
And the other guy thinks were are tournament bound but Marco is our only shooter............
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Funny thing is that Louisville is a top 5 program this year, and yet they too don't have many real "shooters". Go figure.
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Braziller: It's not just two games. St. John's struggles go back further than that, nearly losing to Holy Cross and Florida Gulf Coast as well.
Read more: - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4 (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4)
I know these two were tighter than many of us expected or would have liked but double digit wins in both does not qualify as nearly losing.
And the other guy thinks were are tournament bound but Marco is our only shooter............
Think he said next year.
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Braziller: It's not just two games. St. John's struggles go back further than that, nearly losing to Holy Cross and Florida Gulf Coast as well.
Read more: - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4 (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4)
I know these two were tighter than many of us expected or would have liked but double digit wins in both does not qualify as nearly losing.
And the other guy thinks were are tournament bound but Marco is our only shooter............
Think he said next year.
Missed that. So proof he's even more nuts :)
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I actually saw nothing wrong with what Zach said.
Our struggles aren't a new thing - they do trace back to those games. Even though we won by 10, nobody walked out of Holy Cross or the NJIT games saying we played well.
And common opponents aren't a great measure, I'll admit that up front, but some of the games we won in single digits, our Big East breather-en won in blowouts.
We beat Detroit by 3, Pitt beat them by 13.
We beat C of Charleston by 11, Lousiville beat them by 42. Not a misprint.
Holy Cross loss to Providence by 19.
And Pitt beat Fordham by 35.
To say we've played well this far is incorrect. We have struggled. I think Zach is right. I don't personally think outside shooting is the issue; I would point to 1) Defensive assignments 2) Rebounding 3) Ball movement.
But regardless, I do agree we've struggled, and we do not look like a tournament caliber team.
The best that can be said is we're young and supposedly very talented - if that talent develops... then we're a different team.
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I actually saw nothing wrong with what Zach said.
Our struggles aren't a new thing - they do trace back to those games. Even though we won by 10, nobody walked out of Holy Cross or the NJIT games saying we played well.
And common opponents aren't a great measure, I'll admit that up front, but some of the games we won in single digits, our Big East breather-en won in blowouts.
We beat Detroit by 3, Pitt beat them by 13.
We beat C of Charleston by 11, Lousiville beat them by 42. Not a misprint.
Holy Cross loss to Providence by 19.
And Pitt beat Fordham by 35.
To say we've played well this far is incorrect. We have struggled. I think Zach is right. I don't personally think outside shooting is the issue; I would point to 1) Defensive assignments 2) Rebounding 3) Ball movement.
But regardless, I do agree we've struggled, and we do not look like a tournament caliber team.
The best that can be said is we're young and supposedly very talented - if that talent develops... then we're a different team.
I understand they are common opponents but I'm not a fan of playing 6 degrees of separation that way. Its reaching IMO on so many grounds.
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Margin of victory does not really mean much.
Last year STJ lost to Detroit by 6. ND beat Detroit by 6. STJ beat ND by 3.
Your logic does not hold.
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Margin of victory does not really mean much.
Last year STJ lost to Detroit by 6. ND beat Detroit by 6. STJ beat ND by 3.
Your logic does not hold.
I know what you're saying. It's not my first choice for comparison either; I'm just offering it to you guys as 1 example. It's early in the season and we've all played these teams within the last month. It's "a" method of comparison, not necessarily the best. Certainly there are plenty of other ways to measure a team's performance, no doubt.
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Braziller: It's not just two games. St. John's struggles go back further than that, nearly losing to Holy Cross and Florida Gulf Coast as well.
Read more: - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4 (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4)
I know these two were tighter than many of us expected or would have liked but double digit wins in both does not qualify as nearly losing.
And the other guy thinks were are tournament bound but Marco is our only shooter............
Think he said next year.
Missed that. So proof he's even more nuts :)
So you don't think we are making tourney next year either. Must admit i may be confused.
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Braziller: It's not just two games. St. John's struggles go back further than that, nearly losing to Holy Cross and Florida Gulf Coast as well.
Read more: - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4 (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4)
I know these two were tighter than many of us expected or would have liked but double digit wins in both does not qualify as nearly losing.
And the other guy thinks were are tournament bound but Marco is our only shooter............
Think he said next year.
Missed that. So proof he's even more nuts :)
So you don't think we are making tourney next year either. Must admit i may be confused.
I've said many times were making it this year and its a disappointment if not.
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Braziller: It's not just two games. St. John's struggles go back further than that, nearly losing to Holy Cross and Florida Gulf Coast as well.
Read more: - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4 (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_prospects_storm_struggles_3OEm950rRgNFf8kzot1tMK#ixzz2ElypQHG4)
I know these two were tighter than many of us expected or would have liked but double digit wins in both does not qualify as nearly losing.
And the other guy thinks were are tournament bound but Marco is our only shooter............
Think he said next year.
Missed that. So proof he's even more nuts :)
So you don't think we are making tourney next year either. Must admit i may be confused.
I've said many times were making it this year and its a disappointment if not.
Sorry, I got confused. Do remember you saying that but thought you may have changed your mind. Agree, prior to the season thought the same way-now not so sure our chances are above 50-50.
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“@BigEastMBB: DePaul rolls to a 78-61 win at Arizona State. Blue Demons improve to 7-3.”
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“@BigEastMBB: DePaul rolls to a 78-61 win at Arizona State. Blue Demons improve to 7-3.”
Pretty impressive road win. Look out for the Blue Demons.
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“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB's Sampson Earns BIG EAST Rookie Of The Week Nod; Harrison Selected To Honor Roll: Plus updated @ncaastats: http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o (http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o)”
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“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB's Sampson Earns BIG EAST Rookie Of The Week Nod; Harrison Selected To Honor Roll: Plus updated @ncaastats: http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o (http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o)”
Interesting note-
Of note, St. John’s Moe Harkless was a two-time BIG EAST Rookie of the Week before going on to capture conference Rookie of the Year honors last season.
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“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB's Sampson Earns BIG EAST Rookie Of The Week Nod; Harrison Selected To Honor Roll: Plus updated @ncaastats: http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o (http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o)”
Interesting note-
Of note, St. John’s Moe Harkless was a two-time BIG EAST Rookie of the Week before going on to capture conference Rookie of the Year honors last season.
One or two more RotW awards during BE play, and I think Sampson is as good as gone to the NBA next year. Bittersweet for SJU, but I think it's inevitable given the totality of the circumstances (e.g., conference uncertainty, projected weak NBA draft class this year and the other usual motivators).
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“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB's Sampson Earns BIG EAST Rookie Of The Week Nod; Harrison Selected To Honor Roll: Plus updated @ncaastats: http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o (http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o)”
Interesting note-
Of note, St. John’s Moe Harkless was a two-time BIG EAST Rookie of the Week before going on to capture conference Rookie of the Year honors last season.
One or two more RotW awards during BE play, and I think Sampson is as good as gone to the NBA next year. Bittersweet for SJU, but I think it's inevitable given the totality of the circumstances (e.g., conference uncertainty, projected weak NBA draft class this year and the other usual motivators).
The biggest factor that isn't mentioned much that ppl overlook is he's really not a freshman. So he's already a year older.
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“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB's Sampson Earns BIG EAST Rookie Of The Week Nod; Harrison Selected To Honor Roll: Plus updated @ncaastats: http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o (http://t.co/cFw7Ma7o)”
Interesting note-
Of note, St. John’s Moe Harkless was a two-time BIG EAST Rookie of the Week before going on to capture conference Rookie of the Year honors last season.
One or two more RotW awards during BE play, and I think Sampson is as good as gone to the NBA next year. Bittersweet for SJU, but I think it's inevitable given the totality of the circumstances (e.g., conference uncertainty, projected weak NBA draft class this year and the other usual motivators).
jermaine lawrence can slide right into that role with a veteran team of super athletes around him
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What position is Sampson in the league?
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
Throwing a name out there
Hakim Warrick
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
Throwing a name out there
Hakim Warrick
Not a bad comparison at all.
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Butler's President commenting on the BE 7's new conference and rumors surrounding Butler's possible invitation:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8756116/butler-bulldogs-president-catholic-7-rumor-says-school-do-right (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8756116/butler-bulldogs-president-catholic-7-rumor-says-school-do-right)
Two days after school president James Danko told The Associated Press he would not rule out the possibility of joining a new conference with the seven Catholic schools that are leaving the Big East, he issued a statement calling the rumors a "tribute" to the Bulldogs' success and saying only that that the school would "do what is right."
Butler would be a great fit.
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
i wasn't suggesting a problem. just that i didn't know.
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
Throwing a name out there
Hakim Warrick
I recall Warrick starting off slowly, but improving greatly by the end of the year. If that is who NBA scouts would compare Sampson to, then he's not going to be coming out early. He'll be a 4 year player. Hakim Warrick was a first round pick, and he stinks.
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
Throwing a name out there
Hakim Warrick
I recall Warrick starting off slowly, but improving greatly by the end of the year. If that is who NBA scouts would compare Sampson to, then he's not going to be coming out early. He'll be a 4 year player. Hakim Warrick was a first round pick, and he stinks.
Oh you and Cuse :)
I wouldnt say he stinks. He's play over 500 games in the NBA. Career scoring average of 9 ppg. His first contract saw him average 4ppg, 12ppg, 11ppg and 12ppg. Since then he's leveled off but still this is his 8th year in the NBA
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Let's enjoy Jakarr while we have him. He could certainly use another year, but Moe could have too. Let's just land Jermaine Lawrence and keep it rolling Jakarr or no Jakarr.
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
Throwing a name out there
Hakim Warrick
I recall Warrick starting off slowly, but improving greatly by the end of the year. If that is who NBA scouts would compare Sampson to, then he's not going to be coming out early. He'll be a 4 year player. Hakim Warrick was a first round pick, and he stinks.
Oh you and Cuse :)
I wouldnt say he stinks. He's play over 500 games in the NBA. Career scoring average of 9 ppg. His first contract saw him average 4ppg, 12ppg, 11ppg and 12ppg. Since then he's leveled off but still this is his 8th year in the NBA
My only point is that if you're not a lottery pick, or a first round pick, you should stay.
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
Throwing a name out there
Hakim Warrick
I recall Warrick starting off slowly, but improving greatly by the end of the year. If that is who NBA scouts would compare Sampson to, then he's not going to be coming out early. He'll be a 4 year player. Hakim Warrick was a first round pick, and he stinks.
Oh you and Cuse :)
I wouldnt say he stinks. He's play over 500 games in the NBA. Career scoring average of 9 ppg. His first contract saw him average 4ppg, 12ppg, 11ppg and 12ppg. Since then he's leveled off but still this is his 8th year in the NBA
My only point is that if you're not a lottery pick, or a first round pick, you should stay.
But Warrick was.
And he's made 17M. Nice life he made for himself. And he played 4 yrs in College
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What position is Sampson in the league?
That's the problem I see. No 3 point shot and not big enough to bang.
Throwing a name out there
Hakim Warrick
I recall Warrick starting off slowly, but improving greatly by the end of the year. If that is who NBA scouts would compare Sampson to, then he's not going to be coming out early. He'll be a 4 year player. Hakim Warrick was a first round pick, and he stinks.
Oh you and Cuse :)
I wouldnt say he stinks. He's play over 500 games in the NBA. Career scoring average of 9 ppg. His first contract saw him average 4ppg, 12ppg, 11ppg and 12ppg. Since then he's leveled off but still this is his 8th year in the NBA
My only point is that if you're not a lottery pick, or a first round pick, you should stay.
But Warrick was.
And he's made 17M. Nice life he made for himself. And he played 4 yrs in College
A good deal for the player, yes.
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Cuse nips Detroit by 4 at home.
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Cuse nips Detroit by 4 at home.
Detroit presented Boeheim w a small heart attack in honor of his 900th win.
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Cuse nips Detroit by 4 at home.
Detroit presented Boeheim w a small heart attack in honor of his 900th win.
PG Carter Williams gave him a Lord and Taylor gift bag with price tags.
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Cuse nips Detroit by 4 at home.
Detroit presented Boeheim w a small heart attack in honor of his 900th win.
PG Carter Williams gave him a Lord and Taylor gift bag with price tags.
Ridiculous that he wasn't suspended. If he did that here, they'd slice off his hands w a machete.
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We beat Detroit by 3. So we would lose to Cuse by 1. Right?
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We beat Detroit by 3. So we would lose to Cuse by 1. Right?
When I left the house to watch the Jetpuke game at my father's house they were up like 15 in 2nd half. Guess they had their typical late game collapse. But Moose if you want to give me the Cuse giving only one point I will bet you one million dollars. :)
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We beat Detroit by 3. So we would lose to Cuse by 1. Right?
When I left the house to watch the Jetpuke game at my father's house they were up like 15 in 2nd half. Guess they had their typical late game collapse. But Moose if you want to give me the Cuse giving only one point I will bet you one million dollars. :)
I just love when people play the we beat School A by X and they lost to School B by Y so we would play School B to Z. :)
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We beat Detroit by 3. So we would lose to Cuse by 1. Right?
When I left the house to watch the Jetpuke game at my father's house they were up like 15 in 2nd half. Guess they had their typical late game collapse. But Moose if you want to give me the Cuse giving only one point I will bet you one million dollars. :)
I just love when people play the we beat School A by X and they lost to School B by Y so we would play School B to Z. :)
Talking about me Moose and the St. F game? LOL :) But your right i fell into that trap listening to a bud of mine (you know who) ;)
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We beat Detroit by 3. So we would lose to Cuse by 1. Right?
When I left the house to watch the Jetpuke game at my father's house they were up like 15 in 2nd half. Guess they had their typical late game collapse. But Moose if you want to give me the Cuse giving only one point I will bet you one million dollars. :)
I just love when people play the we beat School A by X and they lost to School B by Y so we would play School B to Z. :)
Talking about me Moose and the St. F game? LOL :) But your right i fell into that trap listening to a bud of mine (you know who) ;)
Nah I have limited memory so don't recall you specifically saying it. But MANY ppl do ;)
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Weak opposition, but Dunn is going to help PC a lot. Cooley, I must admit, is doing a good job under tough circumstances.
“@friarblog: Friars beat Colgate 79-54. Cotton 21 points, Dunn 13 assists (new Friar assist record in debut), Henton 10 rebounds, Fortune 17 points #pcbb”
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Maybe shurinaCheese has been on to something after all. :o
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Make no mistake, Providence is on the upswing. They have real talent in kids like Henton, Dunn, Cotton etc. Their problem, much like ours, is that they are in rebuild mode. They have several legit D1 weapons on that team though and it's a good time for Providence resurgence with the new conference moving forward. Providence could surprise down the stretch this season because they are getting some of that depth back.
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Make no mistake, Providence is on the upswing. They have real talent in kids like Henton, Dunn, Cotton etc. Their problem, much like ours, is that they are in rebuild mode. They have several legit D1 weapons on that team though and it's a good time for Providence resurgence with the new conference moving forward. Providence could surprise down the stretch this season because they are getting some of that depth back.
They are following a similar path that we are. I do think they will suffer the same problems we did in the Big East that we did last year due to a short roster. Going forward though, can't see Ledo suiting up next year.
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Once they get Council back they will have a pretty strong 8 man rotation with 10 scholarship players in all, so they should have an easier time then we had last year in the big east schedule with the added depth. We played with 6 guys and 5 of them were freshman. They could definitely make some noise in the big east this year.
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Marquette, as expected, is struggling a bit, losing last night by a bucket to Wisc. Green Bay.
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Marquette, as expected, is struggling a bit, losing last night by a bucket to Wisc. Green Bay.
3 losses on the year and 2 of them are to BUT and FLA. Struggling?
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Marquette, as expected, is struggling a bit, losing last night by a bucket to Wisc. Green Bay.
3 losses on the year and 2 of them are to BUT and FLA. Struggling?
"Struggling a bit" was descriptor. they are 0 and 3 on road and Blue has been quite inconsistent. Not "doomed", but I expected some early season losses due to considerable roster changes. IMO Blue takes too many shots and hurts their team style play.
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Marquette, as expected, is struggling a bit, losing last night by a bucket to Wisc. Green Bay.
3 losses on the year and 2 of them are to BUT and FLA. Struggling?
"Struggling a bit" was descriptor. they are 0 and 3 on road and Blue has been quite inconsistent. Not "doomed", but I expected some early season losses due to considerable roster changes. IMO Blue takes too many shots and hurts their team style play.
He's definitely not a controlled player. Nuri esque.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Inside the BIG EAST features #stjbb's 3'Angelo, @KarrSampson this weekend on @SNYtv. Fri at4:30 pm, Sat at 6:30 am or Sun at 12:30 pm.”
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“@rickbozich: In 100 home dates, Big East schools have generated 6 sellouts -- all by Villanova in 6,500-seat arena. Scheduling? Cost of tickets?”
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“@GoodmanCBS: Buzz Williams told CBSSports that Todd Mayo is eligible. Marquette needs him. Badly.”
“@PaintTouches: Can confirm that Buzz Williams has reinstated Todd Mayo. Will be in uniform Saturday against LSU: http://t.co/BX5zcruj (http://t.co/BX5zcruj) #mubb”
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“@GoodmanCBS: Buzz Williams told CBSSports that Todd Mayo is eligible. Marquette needs him. Badly.”
“@PaintTouches: Can confirm that Buzz Williams has reinstated Todd Mayo. Will be in uniform Saturday against LSU: http://t.co/BX5zcruj (http://t.co/BX5zcruj) #mubb”
Hmmmmmm
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“@GoodmanCBS: Buzz Williams told CBSSports that Todd Mayo is eligible. Marquette needs him. Badly.”
“@PaintTouches: Can confirm that Buzz Williams has reinstated Todd Mayo. Will be in uniform Saturday against LSU: http://t.co/BX5zcruj (http://t.co/BX5zcruj) #mubb”
Hmmmmmm
Ya think?
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Heart attack.
“@DickieV: Prayers out to Bob Valvano 4 a speedy recovery http://t.co/fvPrXlj4 (http://t.co/fvPrXlj4)”
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Temple leading Cuse by 5 early in second half.
“@AdamZagoria: Temple fans chanting "Lord & Taylor" at Syracuse's Michael Carter-Williams.”
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Not playing in our league yet but;
“@GoodmanCBS: Dayton knocks off Isaiah Canaan and Murray State. Give Kevin Dillard credit for gutting this one out at less than 100 percent.”
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Temple knocked off Syracuse.
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Everyone has a upset going into league play except us
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Not playing in our league yet but;
“@GoodmanCBS: Dayton knocks off Isaiah Canaan and Murray State. Give Kevin Dillard credit for gutting this one out at less than 100 percent.”
Dayton coach Archie Miller brother of Sean looks like a good one.
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Providence loses to BC;
“@raphiellej: BC wins it, 71-68. Anderson with 24, Cotton led PC with 30.”
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“@JonRothstein: Cincy now 12-0 after 68-58 win over Wright State. 21 for JaQuon Parker. 11 and 9 for Titus Rubles.”
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“@STJ_Basketball: 3'Angelo is 10th nationally w/ 20.9 ppg scoring avg. #STJBB is 8th w/ 10.3 TOs per game, 27th w/ a +3.0 TO margin, 34th w/ a 1.3 ATO ratio.”
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Two differing opinions of SJU season thus far from NY Post;
What’s wrong with St. John’s?
Sulla-Heffinger: Honestly, I think St. John’s will be fine and the panic after the loss to UNC-Asheville, as bad as it was, is a bit of an overreaction. Let’s remember that the Bulldogs were a tournament team last year and that St. John’s was playing with transfer Jamal Branch for the first time. Any time you throw a new guard into the rotation, there will be an adjustment period. Also, this was an absolute trap game for the Red Storm with an 11-day layoff between games and Big East play starting on Jan. 2, it’s conceivable that a group of 18-22 year olds were a bit anxious to get home for winter break and start their conference schedule. Steve Lavin’s team is 8-4, not 4-8 so let’s not write it off yet.
Braziller: Expectations were too high for St. John's. Many prognosticators, including yours truly, predicted then as a tournament team, a gross miscalculation. The lack of shooters and weakness on the boards will be huge issues in Big East play. I do agree the Red Storm will be fine -- next year when they get older and more experienced. For now, expect a lot of growing pains.
Read more: - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_america_best_freshman_0BmTLiEEPr4nnkcgFmDL4K#ixzz2G5L5C6nz (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/starting_five_america_best_freshman_0BmTLiEEPr4nnkcgFmDL4K#ixzz2G5L5C6nz)
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“@JPPelzman: Season-ending injury to Patrik Auda and now a knee injury for C Kevin Johnson leaves Hall thin up front w/ Big East play one week away #shbb”
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“@GoodmanCBS: Gorgui Dieng will practice for the first time today and Rick Pitino told CBSSports he could play on Saturday vs. UK -- http://t.co/zIChrWK0 (http://t.co/zIChrWK0)”
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“@AdamZagoria: Providence PG Vincent Council is expected to play Friday vs. Brown after a full practice today. Watch out for Friars.”
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We could use Vincent council right now
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Note it has taken Cincy five years to become relevant. Disagree with writer's contention that Cincy has no NBA players. Kilpatrick seems to have that ability IMO.
“@GoodmanCBS: Cincinnati may have lost to New Mexico last night, but the Bearcats program has come a long way in Cronin regime -- http://t.co/lTA4jPxZ (http://t.co/lTA4jPxZ)”
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“@rumbleSBN: Jim Boeheim wants Syracuse to continue playing St. John's. #stjbb #cuse http://t.co/8CicW1sS (http://t.co/8CicW1sS)”
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I'm all for it...but lets make them come to Queens.
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Playing SU after they've lead the charge to destroy the BE is an awful idea.
What happened to punishing them for their crimes against the conference?
They've housed us for 20 years, destroyed the BE and now we want to welcome
them back into OUR home, so they can once again reclaim it while stomping us like
we are some kinda D3 team. I'm disgusted by this.
The school bully has beaten the piss out of us for 20 years, and the moment he wants
to be friends, we are right there w a pen in our hand ready to do his homework for him.
SU is going to disappear once Boeheim retires. Why should we help keep their pipeline to NYC
recruits alive after all they've done to the BE? Monasch is a fool.
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The best thing to do against he school bully is to learn to fight and beat him. We need to improve and start beating them, not run away from them. This conference rallignment is riduculous. With your thinking, we should never play WVU, Miami,BC, ND ,Louisville,Pitt and more.
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The best thing to do against he school bully is to learn to fight and beat him. We need to improve and start beating them, not run away from them. This conference rallignment is riduculous. With your thinking, we should never play WVU, Miami,BC, ND ,Louisville,Pitt and more.
And whats wrong with that?
Plenty of other D1 teams to play.
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Anyone know if the nurideen Vs. Rutgers game is on tv anywhere. Just look on my BB and its halftime. Real barn burner with Rutgers up 23 to 21.
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The best thing to do against he school bully is to learn to fight and beat him. We need to improve and start beating them, not run away from them. This conference rallignment is riduculous. With your thinking, we should never play WVU, Miami,BC, ND ,Louisville,Pitt and more.
And whats wrong with that?
Plenty of other D1 teams to play.
Maybe Im old fashioned, but I think we have nice rivalries against Syracuse and UConn, would like to still play them. I cant wait to get on even footing w Syracuse and start handing them a few losses. I think those 2 at the garden means more then a game agaist Baylor or Michigan.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
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If we want to be called the best team in New York then we need to beat them on a regular basis and the games will be at MSG.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
Filling the OOC schedule with good teams that are willing to come into your building is a dream. Bring in Pitt. and Conn. too. It's Coach Steve's job to have us primed for that kinda competition. Ya gotta draw If ya wanna have the money to pay a top staff. We all were kicking about the quality of hoops the new BE was to offer. Oh no, not Tulane and SMU. When that #1 goes next to your name when they rate strength of schedule, I know everyone one this board feels the pride. A couple of weeks ago the board was worried about us being thought of as mid majors. With MSG and coach Steve at the helm, we have the chance of being big time. With the help of Georgetown, Marq, Nova, X-men and Butler we can once again be known as the top hoops conference in the country. Now is not the time to go soft.
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The best thing to do against he school bully is to learn to fight and beat him. We need to improve and start beating them, not run away from them. This conference rallignment is riduculous. With your thinking, we should never play WVU, Miami,BC, ND ,Louisville,Pitt and
For those of you who have attended and suffered through humiliating losses to the Cuse ( blow out city) at the Garden in front of their obnoxious fans, I believe that we should not play them until we can compete with them on the recruiting trail or until our coaching staff can get enough out of our players to get them competitive against the likes of the Cuse and other such teams. I remember leaving last years Cuse game sick to my stomach and ready to tear someone's head off. It certainly did nothing for my high blood pressure.
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Crazy idea but it would be nice to do a pre season 8 team tournament perhaps every other year and invite Cuse Louisville Notre Dame Pitt Rutgers Miami West Va along with St Johns. It could be a real money maker.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
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Crazy idea but it would be nice to do a pre season 8 team tournament perhaps every other year and invite Cuse Louisville Notre Dame Pitt Rutgers Miami West Va along with St Johns. It could be a real money maker.
Won't happen because its rare that two teams from the same conference play in a tournament.
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Crazy idea but it would be nice to do a pre season 8 team tournament perhaps every other year and invite Cuse Louisville Notre Dame Pitt Rutgers Miami West Va along with St Johns. It could be a real money maker.
Won't happen because its rare that two teams from the same conference play in a tournament.
That is definitely true
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
Yep. They will absolutely use MSG as a neutral site to appease their NYC alums - with or without us. So, why give them multiple appearances.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
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If your not already watching providence and brown your missing a good one brown up 1 with 7 seconds left
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Brown wins! The kid tucker halpern hits 8 3's
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Yes I am, do you think we are "Doomed" ;)
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Yes I am, do you think we are "Doomed" ;)
I do
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Yes I am, do you think we are "Doomed" ;)
I do
Well I guess we should move to the MAAC or American East then. ;)
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Yes I am, do you think we are "Doomed" ;)
I do
Well I guess we should move to the MAAC or American East then. ;)
Every conference needs a doormat. No need to move
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Yes I am, do you think we are "Doomed" ;)
I do
Well I guess we should move to the MAAC or American East then. ;)
Every conference needs a doormat. No need to move
You could be right never know
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Damn moose, why so gloomy?
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Weird seeing oriakhi in a Missouri uniform
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I would rather not play them either because having them play in NYC benefits them as much as us but finances for the program with a sold out garden is important. With the move to a new conference it is crucial to get home and home deals with great programs to fill our arena. It is crucial for recruiting to tell kids you will play Kentucky Kansas Florida UNC Duke etc in your career at St Johns.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I would rather not play them either because having them play in NYC benefits them as much as us but finances for the program with a sold out garden is important. With the move to a new conference it is crucial to get home and home deals with great programs to fill our arena. It is crucial for recruiting to tell kids you will play Kentucky Kansas Florida UNC Duke etc in your career at St Johns.
Sorry Ted, but IMO I would rather have Cuse than Florida in that list.
If UNC ever left the ACC do you think Duke would not schedule them?? We need to play the best, it's just that one of the best team is in the same state. St. John's needs to show everyone that they can compete and beat Cuse. If we don't schedule them we will IMO always be 2nd best in the state, at least until they fall on their face.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I would rather not play them either because having them play in NYC benefits them as much as us but finances for the program with a sold out garden is important. With the move to a new conference it is crucial to get home and home deals with great programs to fill our arena. It is crucial for recruiting to tell kids you will play Kentucky Kansas Florida UNC Duke etc in your career at St Johns.
Sorry Ted, but IMO I would rather have Cuse than Florida in that list.
If UNC ever left the ACC do you think Duke would not schedule them?? We need to play the best, it's just that one of the best team is in the same state. St. John's needs to show everyone that they can compete and beat Cuse. If we don't schedule them we will IMO always be 2nd best in the state, at least until they fall on their face.
UNC and Duke are 6 miles apart. We're 6 hours from Cuse.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I'm for playing the best programs in the country year in and year out. As much as I hate them, Syracuse fits that category.
I don't know when it will happen, but I'm looking forward to the time when I can walk out of MSG and mock Cuse fans all the way to Penn Station. I've experienced it all too much these last 15 years and it'll be fun repaying the favor.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I'm for playing the best programs in the country year in and year out. As much as I hate them, Syracuse fits that category.
I don't know when it will happen, but I'm looking forward to the time when I can walk out of MSG and mock Cuse fans all the way to Penn Station. I've experienced it all too much these last 15 years and it'll be fun repaying the favor.
That time might never happen.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I'm for playing the best programs in the country year in and year out. As much as I hate them, Syracuse fits that category.
I don't know when it will happen, but I'm looking forward to the time when I can walk out of MSG and mock Cuse fans all the way to Penn Station. I've experienced it all too much these last 15 years and it'll be fun repaying the favor.
That time might never happen.
Very pessimistic thinking here.
While it's true we most likely will never be a program like Syracuse, it's extremely pessimistic to say we can't compete with them year in and year out. We're in good hands with Lavin, as much as it may not feel like it right now. If we continue to recruit like this, we will be a solid top 50 program year in and year out, and the occasional top 25 season, which any St. John's fan should be happy with. And so far there is nothing that says Lavin can't continue to recruit this level of talent.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Mr. Moose, you musta had high hopes after we lost to the Bonnies and Rams. We really won't know where this program is going for a while. No way we should be getting to nuts or to smart. I do know there are programs out there that would be sky high if good teams would actually give em a home game. Best case is we beat em up at MSG and refuse to go up there.
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“@ESPNAndyKatz: Source: UConn will announce a new five-year deal for Kevin Ollie at a 5 p.m. news conference. Ollie was given a 7-month deal initially.”
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Moose is on a mission to prove he isn't a friend fan anymore. Lol. Bring back the old Moose.
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I think it is very possible to be like cuse again we were once. The difference is is that they had a great coach for the last 30yrs and we had a revolving door of coaches since Louie left. If we can't compete with an upstate school in the middle of nowhere then honesty shame on us...
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middle of nowhere schools are tough to beat. they usually have a large campus with a big student following who live away from home. so they have a real party environment. nothing else to do besides going to the game and party in the dorms. and, as far as the locals are concerned, there are no professional teams to compete with. new york will always be a pro town. tough for st johns to beat out the knicks for the back page. it has happened...especially during the glory years. but unless we do something special, its easy for us to get overlooked.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
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winnin cures all.
puts fans in the seats.
puts us on the back page.
puts us on the top of sports center.
puts money in the program.
we had a taste two year ago.
hope y'all remember what it was like.
glory.
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winnin cures all.
puts fans in the seats.
puts us on the back page.
puts us on the top of sports center.
puts money in the program.
we had a taste two year ago.
hope y'all remember what it was like.
glory.
I remember, we are good once every 10 years.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
If we do, we need to promote the game to alumni and try to minimize the # of tickets available to Syracuse fans...Let them buy tickets at inflated prices
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Moose is on a mission to prove he isn't a friend fan anymore. Lol. Bring back the old Moose.
Yeah its funny I'm either Lavin's lover or too pessimistic. Can't win with this board.
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Mr. Moose, you musta had high hopes after we lost to the Bonnies and Rams. We really won't know where this program is going for a while. No way we should be getting to nuts or to smart. I do know there are programs out there that would be sky high if good teams would actually give em a home game. Best case is we beat em up at MSG and refuse to go up there.
That team was full of 4 yr players. This team isn't.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I'm for playing the best programs in the country year in and year out. As much as I hate them, Syracuse fits that category.
I don't know when it will happen, but I'm looking forward to the time when I can walk out of MSG and mock Cuse fans all the way to Penn Station. I've experienced it all too much these last 15 years and it'll be fun repaying the favor.
That time might never happen.
Very pessimistic thinking here.
While it's true we most likely will never be a program like Syracuse, it's extremely pessimistic to say we can't compete with them year in and year out. We're in good hands with Lavin, as much as it may not feel like it right now. If we continue to recruit like this, we will be a solid top 50 program year in and year out, and the occasional top 25 season, which any St. John's fan should be happy with. And so far there is nothing that says Lavin can't continue to recruit this level of talent.
You think our fan base will be happy with that????
Our fan base remembers all those NCAA Championships and will never be happy with an occasional top 25 year.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
Because Pitino was a traitor? He went to the NBA first and THEN went to LVILLE. Mind you he also coached previous to Kentucky at places. Apples to Oranges MCNPA. Hope you enjoy sitting in a Garden chalk full of Cuse fans. Cuz lord knows our fans won't bother coming.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
Unless you are the Cubs, this is true just about anywhere. Remember Yankee stadium in the 80s? This isn't a St. John's or NY phenomenon. It's called economics and common sense.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
Unless you are the Cubs, this is true just about anywhere. Remember Yankee stadium in the 80s? This isn't a St. John's or NY phenomenon. It's called economics and common sense.
It also blows the whole NY theory up IMO. NY is full of people who grew up here and went away to school. Therefore they root for other teams. Then there are tons of people who moved to NY after college who have another team to root for. So when their teams play at MSG the 1 or 2 times a year they WILL pay premium to watch them in person. So why everyone plays up the STJ-NY connection if anything I see a negative with it. The fairweather fans will only come when we win.
The other problem is the student makeup of STJ is not a sports minded population. STJ has a lot of foreign kids and most don't give a rats ass about basketball. While STJ might have a big enrollment I'd say the majority could care less about sports and there is no connection once they graduate.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
Because Pitino was a traitor? He went to the NBA first and THEN went to LVILLE. Mind you he also coached previous to Kentucky at places. Apples to Oranges MCNPA. Hope you enjoy sitting in a Garden chalk full of Cuse fans. Cuz lord knows our fans won't bother coming.
UK fans all view him as a traitor. I was making a point though. They schedule the Ville because it is good for Kentucky basketbsll. Good for both sides. Same holds true with SJU vs Cuse. It will be different when Boeheim is gone I think. Quite a bit actually, but not sure yet when that will be.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
Because Pitino was a traitor? He went to the NBA first and THEN went to LVILLE. Mind you he also coached previous to Kentucky at places. Apples to Oranges MCNPA. Hope you enjoy sitting in a Garden chalk full of Cuse fans. Cuz lord knows our fans won't bother coming.
UK fans all view him as a traitor. I was making a point though. They schedule the Ville because it is good for Kentucky basketbsll. Good for both sides. Same holds true with SJU vs Cuse. It will be different when Boeheim is gone I think. Quite a bit actually, but not sure yet when that will be.
I know the point you were trying to make. Again just over and hour drive separates them as opposed to us and Cuse. Hey what do I know. Let NY's team play another game in the Garden every year. We can have a little bit of extra cash (When most will probably be STJ fans or Colleary selling their tix for premium). Create a road game atmosphere for the kids.
Sounds great. Who's pumped?!?!?!
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Mr. Moose, you musta had high hopes after we lost to the Bonnies and Rams. We really won't know where this program is going for a while. No way we should be getting to nuts or to smart. I do know there are programs out there that would be sky high if good teams would actually give em a home game. Best case is we beat em up at MSG and refuse to go up there.
That team was full of 4 yr players. This team isn't.
I think we have quite a few 4 year players. Problem is that the fans don't seem to want to let them get past freshman or soph years. We are still very young in Lavin's total rebuild with all of his recruits in only their first or second years. Anybody expecting a polished, veteran team isn't on the same page. I certainly thought we'd have two or maybe 3 losses the most before League play, but we have some issues still to iron out, and I thought we'd have Sanchez Eligible. Not having Sanchez has hurt us more than I thought it would.
Again, while it isn't in our nature to be patient, we are still a real young team and it will take time to get to where we want to be. I'm hoping we have an epiphany as a team pretty soon and get back to playing the way we did vs South Carolina, Schaumburg I thought was exactly what we were aiming for.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
Unless you are the Cubs, this is true just about anywhere. Remember Yankee stadium in the 80s? This isn't a St. John's or NY phenomenon. It's called economics and common sense.
It also blows the whole NY theory up IMO. NY is full of people who grew up here and went away to school. Therefore they root for other teams. Then there are tons of people who moved to NY after college who have another team to root for. So when their teams play at MSG the 1 or 2 times a year they WILL pay premium to watch them in person. So why everyone plays up the STJ-NY connection if anything I see a negative with it. The fairweather fans will only come when we win.
The other problem is the student makeup of STJ is not a sports minded population. STJ has a lot of foreign kids and most don't give a rats ass about basketball. While STJ might have a big enrollment I'd say the majority could care less about sports and there is no connection once they graduate.
Fans don't care when the team doesn't win. However, when the team does put up W's, fans start to pay attention.
I'm sure the attendance in 2010 was probably the highest St. John's has had in years. I'm not saying the team will sell out the Garden every game, but I guarantee you the students will come if you are a consistent Top 25 program.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
Unless you are the Cubs, this is true just about anywhere. Remember Yankee stadium in the 80s? This isn't a St. John's or NY phenomenon. It's called economics and common sense.
It also blows the whole NY theory up IMO. NY is full of people who grew up here and went away to school. Therefore they root for other teams. Then there are tons of people who moved to NY after college who have another team to root for. So when their teams play at MSG the 1 or 2 times a year they WILL pay premium to watch them in person. So why everyone plays up the STJ-NY connection if anything I see a negative with it. The fairweather fans will only come when we win.
The other problem is the student makeup of STJ is not a sports minded population. STJ has a lot of foreign kids and most don't give a rats ass about basketball. While STJ might have a big enrollment I'd say the majority could care less about sports and there is no connection once they graduate.
Fans don't care when the team doesn't win. However, when the team does put up W's, fans start to pay attention.
I'm sure the attendance in 2010 was probably the highest St. John's has had in years. I'm not saying the team will sell out the Garden every game, but I guarantee you the students will come if you are a consistent Top 25 program.
You cannot refer to the Uconn or Duke games that year. They had a very large number of opposing fans or in the Duke case just people who wanted to see Duke play. College basketball fans. The Pitt game was the best example. The bottom level of the old MSG was packed to the gills and it was over 90% STJ fans.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
Unless you are the Cubs, this is true just about anywhere. Remember Yankee stadium in the 80s? This isn't a St. John's or NY phenomenon. It's called economics and common sense.
St.John's doesn't sell when they win, too.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
Unless you are the Cubs, this is true just about anywhere. Remember Yankee stadium in the 80s? This isn't a St. John's or NY phenomenon. It's called economics and common sense.
It also blows the whole NY theory up IMO. NY is full of people who grew up here and went away to school. Therefore they root for other teams. Then there are tons of people who moved to NY after college who have another team to root for. So when their teams play at MSG the 1 or 2 times a year they WILL pay premium to watch them in person. So why everyone plays up the STJ-NY connection if anything I see a negative with it. The fairweather fans will only come when we win.
The other problem is the student makeup of STJ is not a sports minded population. STJ has a lot of foreign kids and most don't give a rats ass about basketball. While STJ might have a big enrollment I'd say the majority could care less about sports and there is no connection once they graduate.
Fans don't care when the team doesn't win. However, when the team does put up W's, fans start to pay attention.
I'm sure the attendance in 2010 was probably the highest St. John's has had in years. I'm not saying the team will sell out the Garden every game, but I guarantee you the students will come if you are a consistent Top 25 program.
You cannot refer to the Uconn or Duke games that year. They had a very large number of opposing fans or in the Duke case just people who wanted to see Duke play. College basketball fans. The Pitt game was the best example. The bottom level of the old MSG was packed to the gills and it was over 90% STJ fans.
Maybe Moose is right and we should play Pitt every year instead. Was totally a huge SJU crowd, stadium packed and a great win with mostly sju fans. Great atmosphere!
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Again, the matchup benefits both SJU and SU. Building an even greater rivalry with that dirtbag school and filling the garden is great for assuring our future and recruiting circles. This is a brave new world with respect to the new conference and having a built-in matchup that packs the Garden and gives us an edge is excellent. It is also great for our relationship with the Garden and encouraging that playing us there is in demand.
It is simply good business and no good programs should ditch a game that fills the place. I hate Syracuse as much as anyone but I'd rather pack the Garden and actually start beating them for a change. Make it like the UNC vs Duke rivalry. Plenty of bad blood there but in that one it is a two-sided matchup. We need to make it so.
How does it benefit us besides a 'sold out' building?
If you don't see it, I can't explain it any further Moose. It fills the building, pays the bills, is an intra-state rivalry and has recruiting implications. There are a lot more negatives to canceling a potentially yearly matchup.
I told you how many times the bills were paid just fine drawing 6k while Norm was coach. Doesn't take much to break even. I don't see the point in allowing a team that has tormented us and called themselves NY's team another chance to play in MSG every year. Lord knows they will probably get a game there anyway.
So many posters kicked and screamed when they left yet these same posters are bending over the table and oh so willing to allow them right back in.
Like you said they will most likely play a game there every year anyways, so that game should be against St. John's. In order to remove that NY's team title from them is by playing them and beating them.
You think they are just going to stop at 1 game vs. us? They are going to get another game against a premier team (ie Duke, etc). Forget them already. I'm amazed how many people are so attached to an original team that pretty much hammered the final nail in BE coffin.
I'm more concerned with taking the NY team title away from Cuse and in order to do that you must play them.
We cant beat Asheville your asking for Cuse
Mr. Moose, you musta had high hopes after we lost to the Bonnies and Rams. We really won't know where this program is going for a while. No way we should be getting to nuts or to smart. I do know there are programs out there that would be sky high if good teams would actually give em a home game. Best case is we beat em up at MSG and refuse to go up there.
That team was full of 4 yr players. This team isn't.
I think we have quite a few 4 year players. Problem is that the fans don't seem to want to let them get past freshman or soph years. We are still very young in Lavin's total rebuild with all of his recruits in only their first or second years. Anybody expecting a polished, veteran team isn't on the same page. I certainly thought we'd have two or maybe 3 losses the most before League play, but we have some issues still to iron out, and I thought we'd have Sanchez Eligible. Not having Sanchez has hurt us more than I thought it would.
Again, while it isn't in our nature to be patient, we are still a real young team and it will take time to get to where we want to be. I'm hoping we have an epiphany as a team pretty soon and get back to playing the way we did vs South Carolina, Schaumburg I thought was exactly what we were aiming for.
I've realized that my expectations for this season were probably unrealistic. What I'm really watching for come conference play are these 3 things: (1) Will the presence of a true PG in Branch help to create opportunities on the offensive end (2) Is the coaching staff capable of creating a better defensive system (3) Are we going to see improvement in the games of our young players? If there is one thing I've been disappointed in, it's the play of our sophomores. Thus far, it really does seem that Pointer, Garrett, and Greene have regressed in year two. There is a lot of basketball left to be played, but I expected these guys to a bigger leap forward than what I'm seeing. I believe in their abilities and know they have more in them than what they've shown. So go out there and prove it boys.
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
Unless you are the Cubs, this is true just about anywhere. Remember Yankee stadium in the 80s? This isn't a St. John's or NY phenomenon. It's called economics and common sense.
St.John's doesn't sell when they win, too.
Yes we do...
St. John's vs. Pittsburgh Madison Square Garden: Dwight Hardy Game-Winning Layup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxlbjXu1FuE#)
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Lville just knocked off Kentucky by 3. They built a huge lead but let uk back in. The cards look damn good.
Yeah, and SJU not scheduling Cuse would be like UK not scheduling Louisville because Pitino was a traitor. We play these games like SJU vs Cuse for one reason and that is that people attend to see the game. It's the game New Yorkers want to see and that is evidenced by the ticket sales. Who cares whether it is more Cuse fans. If that is the case, then more SJU fans need to go out and buy blocks of seats. No excuses. We need to schedule Cuse because it is the game that New Yorkers whether metro area or upstat fans, want to see... It helps our recruiting as much or more than theirs. We just need to start competing with them and we will.
A dose of reality. SJ fans have no heart. The hint of bad season means an empty arena. We saw it in Brooklyn.
Unless you are the Cubs, this is true just about anywhere. Remember Yankee stadium in the 80s? This isn't a St. John's or NY phenomenon. It's called economics and common sense.
St.John's doesn't sell when they win, too.
Yes we do...
St. John's vs. Pittsburgh Madison Square Garden: Dwight Hardy Game-Winning Layup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxlbjXu1FuE#)
Yes, very nice. I went to the pre season NIT in 1999, when we had our best team in the last 30 years. I was sitting in the 100s, and the place was empty. Selling out a few games over a 30 year period doesn't win the debate. Most of those sell outs are due to the Duke fans.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I'm for playing the best programs in the country year in and year out. As much as I hate them, Syracuse fits that category.
I don't know when it will happen, but I'm looking forward to the time when I can walk out of MSG and mock Cuse fans all the way to Penn Station. I've experienced it all too much these last 15 years and it'll be fun repaying the favor.
That time might never happen.
Very pessimistic thinking here.
While it's true we most likely will never be a program like Syracuse, it's extremely pessimistic to say we can't compete with them year in and year out. We're in good hands with Lavin, as much as it may not feel like it right now. If we continue to recruit like this, we will be a solid top 50 program year in and year out, and the occasional top 25 season, which any St. John's fan should be happy with. And so far there is nothing that says Lavin can't continue to recruit this level of talent.
You think our fan base will be happy with that????
Our fan base remembers all those NCAA Championships and will never be happy with an occasional top 25 year.
Yes, I think that would satisfy any St. John's fan. That would mean they are at least a bubble team most years, always competitive, with the occasional big year (sweet 16, top 25 ranking, 2010-11 type years).
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The Barkley years the place was packed a lot. Damn, I even remember seeing Spike Lee sitting courtside with a Barkley jersey on. That was the last team at St. John's to truly have a national stage IMO. People will come if you win, rightly or wrongly.
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We have to consistently win too, that is the other issue that has plagued us over the years. A great season here and there really won't do anything to draw fans. Cuse has an identity with JB, what is our identity? is it that ir players and coaches constantly change?
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We have to consistently win too, that is the other issue that has plagued us over the years. A great season here and there really won't do anything to draw fans. Cuse has an identity with JB, what is our identity? is it that ir players and coaches constantly change?
I agree. We are not known for anything, except that we can't get our players on the floor. We were once known for man to man defense. Now, we are earning a rep for not defending the 3. Might as well take the shot, we won't mind.
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We have to consistently win too, that is the other issue that has plagued us over the years. A great season here and there really won't do anything to draw fans. Cuse has an identity with JB, what is our identity? is it that ir players and coaches constantly change?
ExCuse is a totally different animal. it is the ONLY thing to do in Syracuse during their winter. I spent about a month their one winter for work and, for excitement, you had your choice of minor league hockey or basketball at the War Memorial arena or going to dinner where every restaurant in town had a salad bar with you having various ways to eat iceberg lettuce. SJU competes against 3 major BB and 3 major Hockey (when they play) teams not to mention the Giants and Jets until either end of Decenber or through the playoffs. One could also mention Bway shows which are not in Syr.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I would rather not play them either because having them play in NYC benefits them as much as us but finances for the program with a sold out garden is important. With the move to a new conference it is crucial to get home and home deals with great programs to fill our arena. It is crucial for recruiting to tell kids you will play Kentucky Kansas Florida UNC Duke etc in your career at St Johns.
Sorry Ted, but IMO I would rather have Cuse than Florida in that list.
If UNC ever left the ACC do you think Duke would not schedule them?? We need to play the best, it's just that one of the best team is in the same state. St. John's needs to show everyone that they can compete and beat Cuse. If we don't schedule them we will IMO always be 2nd best in the state, at least until they fall on their face.
I was just using an example of schools we should play
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We have to consistently win too, that is the other issue that has plagued us over the years. A great season here and there really won't do anything to draw fans. Cuse has an identity with JB, what is our identity? is it that ir players and coaches constantly change?
ExCuse is a totally different animal. it is the ONLY thing to do in Syracuse during their winter. I spent about a month their one winter for work and, for excitement, you had your choice of minor league hockey or basketball at the War Memorial arena or going to dinner where every restaurant in town had a salad bar with you having various ways to eat iceberg lettuce. SJU competes against 3 major BB and 3 major Hockey (when they play) teams not to mention the Giants and Jets until either end of Decenber or through the playoffs. One could also mention Bway shows which are not in Syr.
It isn't the only thing to do in Syracuse during the winter. They have a shopping mall, and inside that shopping mall there are several restaurants, and there's a movie theatre.
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We have to consistently win too, that is the other issue that has plagued us over the years. A great season here and there really won't do anything to draw fans. Cuse has an identity with JB, what is our identity? is it that ir players and coaches constantly change?
ExCuse is a totally different animal. it is the ONLY thing to do in Syracuse during their winter. I spent about a month their one winter for work and, for excitement, you had your choice of minor league hockey or basketball at the War Memorial arena or going to dinner where every restaurant in town had a salad bar with you having various ways to eat iceberg lettuce. SJU competes against 3 major BB and 3 major Hockey (when they play) teams not to mention the Giants and Jets until either end of Decenber or through the playoffs. One could also mention Bway shows which are not in Syr.
It isn't the only thing to do in Syracuse during the winter. They have a shopping mall, and inside that shopping mall there are several restaurants, and there's a movie theatre.
hahaha beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I was stationed at Fort Drum NY and Syracuse was a lot more exciting then Watertown...I will say one of my favorite Irish bars ever is Kitty Hoynes is Syracuse. If you like Irish music that is the place to go...when we win St. John's does grab backpage headlines. During the winter months Football is over Basketball and hockey (is they ever play again) are only in the middle of the season. A big win and a ranked Johnny team will make headlines.
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We have nothing to gain by playing Syracuse. Losing to them gives credibility to their obnoxious "New York's College Team" line. Obnoxious, but spot on. They chose to leave. That opens the door for us. W out SU in the BE Tourney, we have a chance to take back NY. Playing them jeopardizes that IMO.
If we want to play big time programs at MSG, schedule Kentucky, Kansas, NC, Arizona, Florida etc.
I would rather not play them either because having them play in NYC benefits them as much as us but finances for the program with a sold out garden is important. With the move to a new conference it is crucial to get home and home deals with great programs to fill our arena. It is crucial for recruiting to tell kids you will play Kentucky Kansas Florida UNC Duke etc in your career at St Johns.
Sorry Ted, but IMO I would rather have Cuse than Florida in that list.
If UNC ever left the ACC do you think Duke would not schedule them?? We need to play the best, it's just that one of the best team is in the same state. St. John's needs to show everyone that they can compete and beat Cuse. If we don't schedule them we will IMO always be 2nd best in the state, at least until they fall on their face.
I was just using an example of schools we should play
Still would rather play Cuse instead of Florida. Beating Cuse would feel so much better than beating Florida. I guess living in Saratoga I am surrounded by Cuse fans and hate them!! Tired of being a 2nd rate them in New York
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Giants are out, Johnnies need to be good!
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We have to consistently win too, that is the other issue that has plagued us over the years. A great season here and there really won't do anything to draw fans. Cuse has an identity with JB, what is our identity? is it that ir players and coaches constantly change?
ExCuse is a totally different animal. it is the ONLY thing to do in Syracuse during their winter. I spent about a month their one winter for work and, for excitement, you had your choice of minor league hockey or basketball at the War Memorial arena or going to dinner where every restaurant in town had a salad bar with you having various ways to eat iceberg lettuce. SJU competes against 3 major BB and 3 major Hockey (when they play) teams not to mention the Giants and Jets until either end of Decenber or through the playoffs. One could also mention Bway shows which are not in Syr.
It isn't the only thing to do in Syracuse during the winter. They have a shopping mall, and inside that shopping mall there are several restaurants, and there's a movie theatre.
Don't forget Lord and taylor in the mall where one can do their Christmas shop LIFTING :)
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“@CoachCroninUC: Early start to the final day of 2012. Big East play begins with a great challenge at Pitt. Noon tip Bearcat Nation!!”
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Cinci wins at Pitt, grinding it out as usual. Very mentally tough team with a few good additions, especially Rubles, a good SF.
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Cinci wins at Pitt, grinding it out as usual. Very mentally tough team with a few good additions, especially Rubles, a good SF.
Isn't Rubles more a PF?
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Cinci wins at Pitt, grinding it out as usual. Very mentally tough team with a few good additions, especially Rubles, a good SF.
Isn't Rubles more a PF?
He can play both, but today he put the ball on floor well, slashed, passed nicely and out quicked defenders for the time he played. Like his athleticism.
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Rubles info, is 6'7;
http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/rubles_titus00.html (http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/rubles_titus00.html)
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Ouch Andy!
“@ESPNAndyKatz: If MWC decides to take SDSU back, it would have teams I'd rather watch (UNLV, SDSU, UNM, CSU, USU)over 7 leaving BE. I may not be alone.”
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Ouch Andy!
“@ESPNAndyKatz: If MWC decides to take SDSU back, it would have teams I'd rather watch (UNLV, SDSU, UNM, CSU, USU)over 7 leaving BE. I may not be alone.”
What a load of crap.
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Ouch Andy!
“@ESPNAndyKatz: If MWC decides to take SDSU back, it would have teams I'd rather watch (UNLV, SDSU, UNM, CSU, USU)over 7 leaving BE. I may not be alone.”
What a load of crap.
Agree, ESPN has no interest in the group of 7 succeeding at this juncture.
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Katz heard you Desco! Ha!
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Getting back to my previous MWC vs. 7 BE point. Go and grab Butler, VCU, Xavier and it's a different ballgame.”
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Rubles info, is 6'7;
http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/rubles_titus00.html (http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/rubles_titus00.html)
Didn't realize he was only 6'7
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Katz heard you Desco! Ha!
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Getting back to my previous MWC vs. 7 BE point. Go and grab Butler, VCU, Xavier and it's a different ballgame.”
Those two teams change his whole perception?
Please.
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ESPN succeeded at destroying the Big East. He's just following the company line.
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ESPN succeeded at destroying the Big East. He's just following the company line.
Sadly I think there is more to his opinion. And some other TV blowhards.
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Katz heard you Desco! Ha!
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Getting back to my previous MWC vs. 7 BE point. Go and grab Butler, VCU, Xavier and it's a different ballgame.”
Haha, comical. I think this whole process of ranking conferences compared to one another is stupid.
I couldn't care less if our conference was 1st or 3rd in experts eyes.
And I'm pretty certain fans in IowA, UCLA, and Florida feel the same way.
I just want to see good basketball among the classic big east schools, what difference does it make to me as a fan if Andy Katz thinks the Big10 is a better league?
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Anyone surprised?
“@CBTonNBC: Former Seton Hall forward Herb Pope reportedly arrested for pulling gun at bar http://t.co/igiTKAsX (http://t.co/igiTKAsX)”
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Anyone surprised?
“@CBTonNBC: Former Seton Hall forward Herb Pope reportedly arrested for pulling gun at bar http://t.co/igiTKAsX (http://t.co/igiTKAsX)”
It's the Hall of Injustice. If you put on SportsNet, you can watch Seton Hall before they became the biggest thugs in the nation.
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Marquette vs Uconn tonight. Super 7 vs sloppy seconds. Go Marquette!
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Marquette vs Uconn tonight. Super 7 vs sloppy seconds. Go Marquette!
No Buzz Williams tonight, suspension.
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Marquette vs Uconn tonight. Super 7 vs sloppy seconds. Go Marquette!
No Buzz Williams tonight, suspension.
Maybe the play with a chip on their shoulder? Regardless, hope Marquette works them.
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Uconn loses in OT. May their suffering know no end.
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“@ESPNAndyKatz: Syracuse expected to add former Fairfield coach Tim O'Toole to staff as director of bkb ops. O'Toole has been a St. John's/ESPNU announcer.”
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“@ESPNAndyKatz: Syracuse expected to add former Fairfield coach Tim O'Toole to staff as director of bkb ops. O'Toole has been a St. John's/ESPNU announcer.”
Ooof
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Yeah, great win for Marquette last night. I'll be pulling for them and the other 5 Catholic break-aways, except against us(!), all season. Marquette has special significance too since the team's finest hour came with a SJU guy as their leader.
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L'Ville wins by 18 over Prov. and Cuse killing Rutgers at half.
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can only go up, #15
“@friarblog: Friars are No. 13 in ESPN's latest BIG EAST Power Rankings http://t.co/XAEnYAK9 (http://t.co/XAEnYAK9) #pcbb”
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anyone else catch the end of the Rutgers v Pitt game? Jim burr and his crew called a flagrant 1 foul that was half as violent as Sutton's was. Way to be consistent James!
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anyone else catch the end of the Rutgers v Pitt game? Jim burr and his crew called a flagrant 1 foul that was half as violent as Sutton's was. Way to be consistent James!
Rutgers gets a signature win (assuming Pitt is really a top 25 team).
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anyone else catch the end of the Rutgers v Pitt game? Jim burr and his crew called a flagrant 1 foul that was half as violent as Sutton's was. Way to be consistent James!
Rutgers gets a signature win (assuming Pitt is really a top 25 team).
Pitt is not. Had soft schedule and IMO will struggle to go 50/50 in conference. Their recruiting has fallen a bit IMO. Give Rutgers credit. Their guards are tough and Judge will help down low.
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SH w 12 minutes left in game down 15 to ND. SH lives and dies with 3s. BTW, didn't Scott Martin start his college career in 1950?
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SH D sorely lacking;
“@NJHoopsHaven: Final: Notre Dame 93, Seton Hall 74. Jack Cooley 19 & 13 for the Irish, who shot 58 percent. Hall has lost 7 straight there since 2001.”
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GT is just tough on the eyes. Admire the program, but IMO JT3's offensive system stifles creativity.
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Let me qualify on Gtown and Marquette. Two quality brand names but this is more offensive than an offensive game at 20-19 at the half.”
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GT is just tough on the eyes. Admire the program, but IMO JT3's offensive system stifles creativity.
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Let me qualify on Gtown and Marquette. Two quality brand names but this is more offensive than an offensive game at 20-19 at the half.”
Respectfully disagree. I like the way their teams pass the ball.
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GT is just tough on the eyes. Admire the program, but IMO JT3's offensive system stifles creativity.
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Let me qualify on Gtown and Marquette. Two quality brand names but this is more offensive than an offensive game at 20-19 at the half.”
Respectfully disagree. I like the way their teams pass the ball.
Passing the ball around for 30 seconds is kind of like our dribbling the ball for 30 seconds :) Pick your poison
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GT is just tough on the eyes. Admire the program, but IMO JT3's offensive system stifles creativity.
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Let me qualify on Gtown and Marquette. Two quality brand names but this is more offensive than an offensive game at 20-19 at the half.”
Respectfully disagree. I like the way their teams pass the ball.
Passing the ball around for 30 seconds is kind of like our dribbling the ball for 30 seconds :) Pick your poison
haha far different IMO. especially when its dribbling in place
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GT is just tough on the eyes. Admire the program, but IMO JT3's offensive system stifles creativity.
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Let me qualify on Gtown and Marquette. Two quality brand names but this is more offensive than an offensive game at 20-19 at the half.”
Respectfully disagree. I like the way their teams pass the ball.
Passing the ball around for 30 seconds is kind of like our dribbling the ball for 30 seconds :) Pick your poison
haha far different IMO. especially when its dribbling in place
We don't dribble in place. We dribble in a stupid weave. Same thing as passing it around. It's two ways to kill the clock. 4 minutes in and we can't score right now. Unreal.
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“@WeAreDePaul: Final score from the Dunk - #DePaul 83, Providence 73 #dpubb”
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Not enjoyable!
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Kudos for D'Lo and SJU #10 in BE power rankings noted, better than last.
“@AdamZagoria: Big East Breakdown - Top 5 Storylines, Power Rankings (Updates with Honor Roll) http://t.co/3zgauWIZ (http://t.co/3zgauWIZ)”
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ND up at half over Cinci by 4. Scott Martin celebrating 35th birthday.
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ND up at half over Cinci by 4. Scott Martin celebrating 35th birthday.
Two guys in this game as old or older than Sanchez. Just saying
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ND up at half over Cinci by 4. Scott Martin celebrating 35th birthday.
Rally by Cincinnati will fall short and ND is really good.
Cincy will bounce back. Trust me I am really glad SJU got them now. Also shows you the fine line in this league between winning and losing.
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“@howielindsey: The Big East has 13 of its 15 teams among the top 100 nationally in the RPI. Hey Providence and DePaul... how 'bout a little pep, hmm?”
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Kool aid anyone?
“@gregauman: First projected NCAA bracket from @AndyGlockner has six Big East teams making field. St. John's among first four out. http://t.co/ZcPDXqze (http://t.co/ZcPDXqze)”
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Kool aid anyone?
“@gregauman: First projected NCAA bracket from @AndyGlockner has six Big East teams making field. St. John's among first four out. http://t.co/ZcPDXqze (http://t.co/ZcPDXqze)”
Oh boy, this is all our fans need to think we're back in position for a tournament bid.
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We wouldn't want any optimism.... not here. We are realists . We are St. johns
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“@tarik4turner: Check me out at 6:30pm talkin top big east freshmen #bigeast #snytv #jakarr”
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SJU fwiw #64
“@eamonnbrennan: The 2013 RPI is officially here http://t.co/IKpVe5VK (http://t.co/IKpVe5VK)”
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Georgetown getting blown-out at home by Pittsburg. Panthers up 24 now with 3 mins to go.
Lot of teams in this league are inconsistent after Syracuse and Louisiville
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Georgetown getting blown-out at home by Pittsburg. Panthers up 24 now with 3 mins to go.
Lot of teams in this league are inconsistent after Syracuse and Louisiville
Probably not the best thing for Saturday's game.
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Georgetown getting blown-out at home by Pittsburg. Panthers up 24 now with 3 mins to go.
Lot of teams in this league are inconsistent after Syracuse and Louisiville
Probably not the best thing for Saturday's game.
Watched Georgetown early in the year against UCLA and IU at Brooklynn and they looked really good. But since then they have had MAJOR problems scorring. That 30+ point game at home to Tennessee was down right ugly.
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Chuckled, not surprised, with Lavin's reference to "youngest team I have ever coached", but the Lombardi / Halas schtick is so corny. Guess if we won last night, I would not be so picky. Ha!
“@NJHoopsHaven: Notable quotes from the first Big East coaches' teleconference, including Mike Rice, Kevin Willard, Ed Cooley, etc http://t.co/nRk6BDrK (http://t.co/nRk6BDrK)”
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Chuckled, not surprised, with Lavin's reference to "youngest team I have ever coached", but the Lombardi / Halas schtick is so corny. Guess if we won last night, I would not be so picky. Ha!
“@NJHoopsHaven: Notable quotes from the first Big East coaches' teleconference, including Mike Rice, Kevin Willard, Ed Cooley, etc http://t.co/nRk6BDrK (http://t.co/nRk6BDrK)”
The youngest team in America lost last night.
That's Texas I'm referring to.
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Chuckled, not surprised, with Lavin's reference to "youngest team I have ever coached", but the Lombardi / Halas schtick is so corny. Guess if we won last night, I would not be so picky. Ha!
“@NJHoopsHaven: Notable quotes from the first Big East coaches' teleconference, including Mike Rice, Kevin Willard, Ed Cooley, etc http://t.co/nRk6BDrK (http://t.co/nRk6BDrK)”
The youngest team in America lost last night.
That's Texas I'm referring to.
Coach must listen to you. He has changed the propaganda from "youngest team in universe" to "youngest I have coached this week".
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Hes got us film flamed and I love it particularly our contribution. We rather he has managed to bring in a number top 100 recruits and we equate it with an immediate return to the "day of glory" what ever they were. In the 3 recruiting class there is not a top 10 or top 20 recruit. His fault I think not. Does he shine us on you bet and he should.
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Like UConn or not Ollie coaching well under tough circumstances;
“@raphiellej: And UConn will win it. Impressive road win for the Huskies. ND has lost 2 home games out of their last 48. Both to UConn.”
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The locals in BE are all horrible; SH had 15 turnovers in first half alone.
“@NYPost_Brazille: Providence snaps 5-game losing streak 67-55. Seton Hall now 1-3 in Big East. That was ug-ly. #shbb”
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Mobley hurt too
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Interesting;
“@KevinMcNamara33: Big East road teams improved to 15-10 w Providence win @Seton Hall today. Go figure.”
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Interesting;
“@KevinMcNamara33: Big East road teams improved to 15-10 w Providence win @Seton Hall today. Go figure.”
Must be pitiful home team fan support ;)
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Interesting;
“@KevinMcNamara33: Big East road teams improved to 15-10 w Providence win @Seton Hall today. Go figure.”
Must be pitiful home team fan support ;)
Your sarcasm ability gets more refined with each SJU loss. Ha!
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The locals in BE are all horrible; SH had 15 turnovers in first half alone.
“@NYPost_Brazille: Providence snaps 5-game losing streak 67-55. Seton Hall now 1-3 in Big East. That was ug-ly. #shbb”
The way things are going, the battle for the Big East basement is going to be a dog fight.
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“@ReggieRankin: Looks like UCONN has landed C Amida Brimah. Extra long and mobile, blocks shots.Thin but very active. Saw in the fall. Great Upside!”
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.
2 games? His BE number show the rebounds increasing. The blocks aren't going away. Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.
Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.
2 games? His BE number show the rebounds increasing. The blocks aren't going away. Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.
Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)
Good synopsis of CO's progress;
“@ECoastBias: Chris Obekpa wins Big East Rookie of the Week - & now does more than block shots. @bigeastmbb #stjbb http://t.co/s4FxELpx (http://t.co/s4FxELpx)”
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Obekpa is more nba than karr IMO but with that said both need to come back to school. Development is needed for both.
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Obekpa is more nba than karr IMO but with that said both need to come back to school. Development is needed for both.
+1
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“@BigEastMBB: Check out the highlights of the Player and Rookie of the Week C.J. Fair and Chris Obekpa. @cuse @STJ_Basketball http://t.co/SgMxjLOa (http://t.co/SgMxjLOa)”
Notice the blocks stay in play.
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
nephew, who do you see as ROY contenders thus far?
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.
2 games? His BE number show the rebounds increasing. The blocks aren't going away. Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.
Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)
Agree that CO is a great shot blocker and has had an effect on defense inside even when he doesn't block a shot and I love having him but I think to be labeled a "game changer" you have too be changing losses into wins and we are still losing these games. I do think he has the potential to be a game changer in terms of being the difference in us winning games and I hope that happens soon.
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
nephew, who do you see as ROY contenders thus far?
Karr, Ryan A, and Omar are the only three Fresh in the Top 40 in BE scoring. I liked Adams coming into the year but he's been all over the place and inconsistent. Dunn hasnt lit the world on fire and Harrell is putting up nice numbers but not many MPG.
I'd say my top 5 would be Karr, Ryan A, Obekpa, Omar, Adams.
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.
2 games? His BE number show the rebounds increasing. The blocks aren't going away. Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.
Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)
Agree that CO is a great shot blocker and has had an effect on defense inside even when he doesn't block a shot and I love having him but I think to be labeled a "game changer" you have too be changing losses into wins and we are still losing these games. I do think he has the potential to be a game changer in terms of being the difference in us winning games and I hope that happens soon.
Nova game would have never saw OT and the Cincy game would have been a loss. Rutgers would have been a bigger beatdown. Thats game changing to me. He makes players think twice about what they are doing on the court.
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.
2 games? His BE number show the rebounds increasing. The blocks aren't going away. Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.
Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)
Agree that CO is a great shot blocker and has had an effect on defense inside even when he doesn't block a shot and I love having him but I think to be labeled a "game changer" you have too be changing losses into wins and we are still losing these games. I do think he has the potential to be a game changer in terms of being the difference in us winning games and I hope that happens soon.
Nova game would have never saw OT and the Cincy game would have been a loss. Rutgers would have been a bigger beatdown. Thats game changing to me. He makes players think twice about what they are doing on the court.
I'm not disagreeing with you Moose, but think about this... does a Big East Rookie of the Year, who's best attribute by far is his defense; have games like USF where the pg drove right at him time after time? Or the Georgetown game where Lubick was 4 for 4 I think posting him up?
He might end up deserving it, but I'm just saying... if defense is his calling card then maybe those things shouldn't be happening.
I think Jakarr ends up bringing it home.
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
I think that by the time he's a junior, he could be the best defensive big man, we've ever had. Growing pains are hard to stomach though. I love his potential, but you have to wonder what the rest of the league has in terms of freshman, if two lousy games gets him an award.
2 games? His BE number show the rebounds increasing. The blocks aren't going away. Yes the offense needs work but his presence is game changing.
Pretty much exactly what I called in March of last year when I saw him (Marillac pat on the back moment)
Agree that CO is a great shot blocker and has had an effect on defense inside even when he doesn't block a shot and I love having him but I think to be labeled a "game changer" you have too be changing losses into wins and we are still losing these games. I do think he has the potential to be a game changer in terms of being the difference in us winning games and I hope that happens soon.
Nova game would have never saw OT and the Cincy game would have been a loss. Rutgers would have been a bigger beatdown. Thats game changing to me. He makes players think twice about what they are doing on the court.
I'm not disagreeing with you Moose, but think about this... does a Big East Rookie of the Year, who's best attribute by far is his defense; have games like USF where the pg drove right at him time after time? Or the Georgetown game where Lubick was 4 for 4 I think posting him up?
He might end up deserving it, but I'm just saying... if defense is his calling card then maybe those things shouldn't be happening.
I think Jakarr ends up bringing it home.
You make it seem like a PG driving past a Center is uncommon thing.
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Louisville is the bomb right now. The way they just turned that UCONN game tonight around on a dime and went from 6-8 down to 17 up was very impressive.
I like Syracuse a lot but without Southerland not sure they have the firepower to beat Louisville. The game is at the Dome this Saturday.
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“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse F C.J. Fair (22.5 ppg, 8.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's C Chris Obekpa is the BIG EAST Rookie of the Week.”
Karr off to the hot start now watch Obekpa pile up ROW honors. Don't be shocked if he's ROY instead.
nephew, who do you see as ROY contenders thus far?
Karr, Ryan A, and Omar are the only three Fresh in the Top 40 in BE scoring. I liked Adams coming into the year but he's been all over the place and inconsistent. Dunn hasnt lit the world on fire and Harrell is putting up nice numbers but not many MPG.
I'd say my top 5 would be Karr, Ryan A, Obekpa, Omar, Adams.
Thank you as always.
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Louisville was scary good in that second half last night against Uconn.
Omar Calhoun had a nice game for Uconn. Wish we had a youngster that shot like that ( besides Harrison) .
Both teams, when they played well, Uconn in 1st half and Louisville in 2nd, proved PG is the most important position in the college game. Napier, Boatwright, and Siva. We need a guy like that. Is it Branch? I'm not sure...at all
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Interesting stat! Let's get another road win Saturday at DePaul.
“@kenpomeroy: In conference play, Big East teams are 11-18 at home. 4 games into season, 14 of 15 teams have a road win.”
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“@SBNationCBB: Georgetown's Greg Whittington will miss a second straight game because of an unspecified rules violation http://t.co/ulHdTgyL (http://t.co/ulHdTgyL)”
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“@CerasolisGhost: Seton Hall could be playing w/ just 7 scholarship players if Brian Oliver remains out & Kevin Johnson's knee is not 100% #shbb #mubb”
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Aresco must be thrilled he took this job;
“@blauds: Big East and San Diego State ready for mutual announcement to go separate ways http://t.co/ocOG4ubr (http://t.co/ocOG4ubr)”
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Both JaKarr and Chris noted;
“@jeffborzello: I updated my Freshman of the Year rankings yesterday -- McLemore closes gap on Bennett, Carson rises to No. 3: http://t.co/50iQFmuK (http://t.co/50iQFmuK)”
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Both JaKarr and Chris noted;
“@jeffborzello: I updated my Freshman of the Year rankings yesterday -- McLemore closes gap on Bennett, Carson rises to No. 3: http://t.co/50iQFmuK (http://t.co/50iQFmuK)”
Kid McLemore from Kansas? He is a good looking player. Great shooting stroke. WASJU would be proud. They were analyzing his shot the other night against Baylor. Pretty much perfect form. Reminded me of Ray Allen a bit. Scary.
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Both JaKarr and Chris noted;
“@jeffborzello: I updated my Freshman of the Year rankings yesterday -- McLemore closes gap on Bennett, Carson rises to No. 3: http://t.co/50iQFmuK (http://t.co/50iQFmuK)”
Kid McLemore from Kansas? He is a good looking player. Great shooting stroke. WASJU would be proud. They were analyzing his shot the other night against Baylor. Pretty much perfect form. Reminded me of Ray Allen a bit. Scary.
Yea hes got scary potential. Keep in mind hes been in college two years.
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Big loss;
“@BobbyBancroft: #Hoyas release statement on Greg Whittington - he's been declared academically ineligible.”
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Louisville was scary good in that second half last night against Uconn.
Omar Calhoun had a nice game for Uconn. Wish we had a youngster that shot like that ( besides Harrison) .
Both teams, when they played well, Uconn in 1st half and Louisville in 2nd, proved PG is the most important position in the college game. Napier, Boatwright, and Siva. We need a guy like that. Is it Branch? I'm not sure...at all
Napier, Boatwright, Siva and especially Russ Smith of Louisville all very quick and might be better NBA prospects than Dlo who I love as a great college player but lacks the quickness of these guys although they all may be too small that is why I said might be. :-\
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Louisville was scary good in that second half last night against Uconn.
Omar Calhoun had a nice game for Uconn. Wish we had a youngster that shot like that ( besides Harrison) .
Both teams, when they played well, Uconn in 1st half and Louisville in 2nd, proved PG is the most important position in the college game. Napier, Boatwright, and Siva. We need a guy like that. Is it Branch? I'm not sure...at all
Napier, Boatwright, Siva and especially Russ Smith of Louisville all very quick and might be better NBA prospects than Dlo who I love as a great college player but lacks the quickness of these guys although they all may be too small that is why I said might be. :-\
I don't disagree with you but I don't see any of them making an impact in the NBA.
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Nova loses;
“@jmverlin: Internet stops working at the BEST times. Pitt scores the final 15 points to win 58-43”
GT over Providence by 9.
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This may explain why Cuse DOBO resigned recently;
“@BrentAxeMedia: Syracuse forward James Southerland's suspension related to NCAA investigation http://t.co/gC4L5OyS (http://t.co/gC4L5OyS)”
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Wrist slap coming up
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Wrist slap coming up
Maybe not. If they think he's guilty of plagiarism, and they think there is a ring of academic fraud, this could be huge.
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Wrist slap coming up
Maybe not. If they think he's guilty of plagiarism, and they think there is a ring of academic fraud, this could be huge.
I hope so. Couldnt happen to a better program.
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“@AdamZagoria: Jerron Wilbut to Seton Hall http://t.co/tz4C4Hvh (http://t.co/tz4C4Hvh) @jwil23”
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers survives against South Florida, 70-67, to move to 3-2 in Big East play http://t.co/S9gVsmok (http://t.co/S9gVsmok)”
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#9 in latest ESPN power ranking;
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/73124/conference-power-rankings-big-east-21 (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/73124/conference-power-rankings-big-east-21)
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This may explain why Cuse DOBO resigned recently;
“@BrentAxeMedia: Syracuse forward James Southerland's suspension related to NCAA investigation http://t.co/gC4L5OyS (http://t.co/gC4L5OyS)”
What is the NCAA doing looking at term papers of students. This may stem from an SU professor getting fed up with special treatment for BB players and being a whistle blower.
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We all new Syracuse would not have done this on their own. I dont think this school will get away with things in the ACC. They will be treated much differently once they get there. They may as well get used to this.
Also, wasn't OSU screwed by the NCAA over tutors doing the papers for basketball players?
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Meeting with his new tutor, Clifford Notes;
“@PSBasketball: Syracuse basketball forward James Southerland did not travel with team to Louisville on Friday.”
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We all new Syracuse would not have done this on their own. I dont think this school will get away with things in the ACC. They will be treated much differently once they get there. They may as well get used to this.
Also, wasn't OSU screwed by the NCAA over tutors doing the papers for basketball players?
Florida State is a terrible school. They're in the ACC. How does the ACC tolerate them?
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UConn down 13 to Pitt at half. They seem to be coming back to earth after solid early season start.
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Cuse goes into Louisville and gets the win. We still have a ways to go before we will be anointed New York's team. Sticky fingers ( Michael Carter) Williams had a big game. As much as I despise the Cuse, am not fan of Ricky either.
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Cuse goes into Louisville and gets the win. We still have a ways to go before we will be anointed New York's team. Sticky fingers ( Michael Carter) Williams had a big game. As much as I despise the Cuse, am not fan of Ricky either.
“@SethDavisHoops: Saw clip of Pitino's press conference. Told reporters to ask his players hard questions because he was "pissed off." Practice should be fun!”
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Cuse goes into Louisville and gets the win. We still have a ways to go before we will be anointed New York's team. Sticky fingers ( Michael Carter) Williams had a big game. As much as I despise the Cuse, am not fan of Ricky either.
“@SethDavisHoops: Saw clip of Pitino's press conference. Told reporters to ask his players hard questions because he was "pissed off." Practice should be fun!”
Put it this way I am glad SJU is not next on Louisville's schedule. Someone is going to pay for that loss.
Up 1 with the ball less then a minute and Siva makes a bad pass turns into a layup for Cuse.
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Cuse goes into Louisville and gets the win. We still have a ways to go before we will be anointed New York's team. Sticky fingers ( Michael Carter) Williams had a big game. As much as I despise the Cuse, am not fan of Ricky either.
“@SethDavisHoops: Saw clip of Pitino's press conference. Told reporters to ask his players hard questions because he was "pissed off." Practice should be fun!”
Put it this way I am glad SJU is not next on Louisville's schedule. Someone is going to pay for that loss.
Up 1 with the ball less then a minute and Siva makes a bad pass turns into a layup for Cuse.
Russ smith didnt touch the ball in any of the key possessions late. Tough one to lose at home. BIG win for cuse.
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FWIW, standings looking better;
“@gregauman: Last-second heave from midcourt misses, and USF gets 61-58 win over Georgetown. First Big East win of season for Bulls.”
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Interesting thing to watch so far in BE is how many road wins have accumulated so far.
The only two teams not have a home loss yet are the two teams not to yet lose in league Marquette and Syracuse.
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Interesting thing to watch so far in BE is how many road wins have accumulated so far.
The only two teams not have a home loss yet are the two teams not to yet lose in league Marquette and Syracuse.
Marquette 1 point down vs Cincy late right now. Might be their first loss, but time to go yet...
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Interesting thing to watch so far in BE is how many road wins have accumulated so far.
The only two teams not have a home loss yet are the two teams not to yet lose in league Marquette and Syracuse.
Marquette 1 point down vs Cincy late right now. Might be their first loss, but time to go yet...
Looks like it will be OT. Fantastic game..
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Terrible call here on the rebound by Marquette. Definitely a foul on Cincinnati
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At what point does Jay Wright update his resume?
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Aaaannd that was definitely a travel on that in bound! And if it wasn't a travel then it should be a jump ball.
Wow Buzz is going to lose it
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In the "old news " category......... In today's blowout loss to Wyoming, Dwayne Pollee played for 12 minutes and ad no points, was 0 for 2 , no boards etc. Too bad, if the kid had stayed, he may have been a solid contributor here at this point. I guess the grass is always greener on the West coast?
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“@PaintTouches: Runner from Kilpatrick, missed runner by Cadougan and Cincinnati escapes with a 71-69 win. Tough one to take for #mubb. More to come”
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In the "old news " category......... In today's blowout loss to Wyoming, Dwayne Pollee played for 12 minutes and ad no points, was 0 for 2 , no boards etc. Too bad, if the kid had stayed, he may have been a solid contributor here at this point. I guess the grass is always greener on the West coast?
Would have thought the same thing a while ago Linda but his lack of contribution in what is his redshirt sophomore year makes me wonder if that is truly the case. :-\
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ND over Rutgers by 3
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ND over Rutgers by 3
We need to beat Rutgers this Wednesday. Split with them is important.
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ND over Rutgers by 3
We need to beat Rutgers this Wednesday. Split with them is important.
Completely agree. We need to establish ourselves as the area's top dog. ND barely beat RU showing that either the Irish are vastly overated, ND's football players played in the game or Manti's girlfriend was in the stands. ;D
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ND over Rutgers by 3
We need to beat Rutgers this Wednesday. Split with them is important.
Completely agree. We need to establish ourselves as the area's top dog. ND barely beat RU showing that either the Irish are vastly overated, ND's football players played in the game or Manti's girlfriend was in the stands. ;D
The league is so wide open this year, we win a few more games and can be at the top of the league. Time to shine
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ND over Rutgers by 3
We need to beat Rutgers this Wednesday. Split with them is important.
Agree, big momentum game. What a day of hoops in BE!
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ND over Rutgers by 3
We need to beat Rutgers this Wednesday. Split with them is important.
Completely agree. We need to establish ourselves as the area's top dog. ND barely beat RU showing that either the Irish are vastly overated, ND's football players played in the game or Manti's girlfriend was in the stands. ;D
The league is so wide open this year, we win a few more games and can be at the top of the league. Time to shine
Relaxxxxxxx
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ND over Rutgers by 3
We need to beat Rutgers this Wednesday. Split with them is important.
Completely agree. We need to establish ourselves as the area's top dog. ND barely beat RU showing that either the Irish are vastly overated, ND's football players played in the game or Manti's girlfriend was in the stands. ;D
The league is so wide open this year, we win a few more games and can be at the top of the league. Time to shine
Relaxxxxxxx
Just saying. We are a few wins away from being in the thick of it. Gotta keep winning. The RAC game will be tough.
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It is unbelievable. There were 7 games today in the league and 2 won on the road, Cuse and SJU.
But of the 5 home teams to win, 4 won basically a one possession game at the end-Cincy, USF, ND and Providence. Pitt beat UCONN by 8.
Outside of Louisville and Syracuse few teams win blowout games in this league even at home.
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Thus far, there is no doubt that Louisville and Cuse play a level above everyone else in the league. Yes there will be nights when a team gets them, but they can both look downright scary at times.
Honestly, Rutgers has surprised me a bit. Mack and Carter are a nice tandem, and even if you don't like Rice, he gets his teams to play defense (reminds me of Norm a bit in that regard). Miller also can do some things and against the right matchup (like us at the Garden), their two true bigs can cause some problems (Judge and I'm blanking on the other senior who did some damage against us).
Miller hurt us last game, and I'd like to see Dom/Garrett lock him up next week. And I'd also like to see Christian play a bit more to help CO down low on the blocks against their two big guys.
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Just think that at minimum we have a slight talent advantage over Rutgers so not good to be swept by them. We should come out hungrey to continue momentum and make up for home loss vs RU.
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Really need to split with Rutgers. I don't want 2 losses if we approach bubble at the end of season.
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At what point does Jay Wright update his resume?
I don't think he's too worried.
if he did get canned, he would have a job before the door hit him on the ass on the way out, either on TV or another coaching gig.
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Really our season begins now. If we finish 6 or 7 in the BE we should have a good chance of making the tournament. As of rigt now our record means nothing now as long as we do well the rest of the way...maybe Stealing a few games in the BET wouldn't hurt either...
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“@ESPNLunardi: S-Curve (AQs in CAPS): 61-ZonaSt, 62-FlaSt, 63-StJoes, 64-StLouis, 65-AKRON, 66-StJohn, 67-Arkansas, 68-UVa, 69-Nova, 70-Stanford”
Rutgers #60
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“@ESPNLunardi: S-Curve (AQs in CAPS): 61-ZonaSt, 62-FlaSt, 63-StJoes, 64-StLouis, 65-AKRON, 66-StJohn, 67-Arkansas, 68-UVa, 69-Nova, 70-Stanford”
Rutgers #60
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The Rutgers and St Johns rankings will change Wednesday :)
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#4 I believe.
“@BigEastMBB: Cincinnati G Sean Kilpatrick (27.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg) is 1/21 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”
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Impressive;
“@BigEastMBB: Syracuse is 27-1 in its last 28 BIG EAST games - the best 28-game stretch in league history. UConn won 35 of 37 between 1994-96.”
“@EyeOnCBB: Per the conference, the Big East's nonconference record of 177-60 (.746) is the best of any league.”
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#4 I believe.
“@BigEastMBB: Cincinnati G Sean Kilpatrick (27.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg) is 1/21 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”
Seems like every week either Obekpa or Sampson wins Rookie of the Week. Good days ahead for this team. Need to keep growing and learning. We could have something special.
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#4 I believe.
“@BigEastMBB: Cincinnati G Sean Kilpatrick (27.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg) is 1/21 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”
Seems like every week either Obekpa or Sampson wins Rookie of the Week. Good days ahead for this team. Need to keep growing and learning. We could have something special.
Branch's emergence is going to be big for us. he and Harrison have to develop some chemistry out there. Once hey do, Our backcourt will be tough to stop.
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Cincy up by 5 over Syracuse at Dome with 4 minutes left.. Game on ESPN
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Cincy up by 5 over Syracuse at Dome with 4 minutes left.. Game on ESPN
Very good game. Tied up now with 1 minute left in second half. Great game.
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Cashmere Wright in first game back goes 2 for 13 (many from Utica)and makes several bad plays down stretch. Kilpatrick never sees rock at end of game. Cuse in a good one wins by 2.
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Cashmere Wright in first game back goes 2 for 13 (many from Utica)and makes several bad plays down stretch. Kilpatrick never sees rock at end of game. Cuse in a good one wins by 2.
Yeah they are going to kick themselves, they should have won this one.
Cuse is good but they are skating on thin ice in terms of getting picked off. Last 3 games, first against Nova at home needed a late run to put them away, then the Louisville game and then today. I wish the SJU game with them was next just because I think they are riped to get picked now.
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#4 I believe.
“@BigEastMBB: Cincinnati G Sean Kilpatrick (27.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg) is 1/21 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”
Seems like every week either Obekpa or Sampson wins Rookie of the Week. Good days ahead for this team. Need to keep growing and learning. We could have something special.
Branch's emergence is going to be big for us. he and Harrison have to develop some chemistry out there. Once hey do, Our backcourt will be tough to stop.
For some reason it seems like DLOs offense has been oiff since Branch has been starting.
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#4 I believe.
“@BigEastMBB: Cincinnati G Sean Kilpatrick (27.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg) is 1/21 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”
Seems like every week either Obekpa or Sampson wins Rookie of the Week. Good days ahead for this team. Need to keep growing and learning. We could have something special.
Branch's emergence is going to be big for us. he and Harrison have to develop some chemistry out there. Once hey do, Our backcourt will be tough to stop.
For some reason it seems like DLOs offense has been oiff since Branch has been starting.
Harrison needs to find his role more as a SG and use Branch to get him open instead of relying on taking on every defense by himself. Harrison will be fine once he finds his rhythm with Branch in there. Our backcourt could be that much better when they get on the same page. Even though Harrison hasn't scored, we have been much better as a team and won. We're heading the right direction.
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
GT is one of those teams that can beat anyone in the country and then lose to anyone just as easily.
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
GT is one of those teams that can beat anyone in the country and then lose to anyone just as easily.
Thats us, yo.
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
GT is one of those teams that can beat anyone in the country and then lose to anyone just as easily.
Thats us, yo.
2010 it was us , for sure.
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
GT is one of those teams that can beat anyone in the country and then lose to anyone just as easily.
Thats us, yo.
That's a number of BE teams as well it appears. Going to be an interesting BE season to say the least.
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
GT is one of those teams that can beat anyone in the country and then lose to anyone just as easily.
Thats us, yo.
As soon as I read it, I thaught the same thing.
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
GT is one of those teams that can beat anyone in the country and then lose to anyone just as easily.
ND is just not that good, period!
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Big logjam in the middle of the BE, with 5 teams at 3-3. If we can keep winning, we can find ourselves in a good spot. Not looking forward to the back end of our schedule. We need to win now and, hopefully, build on the momentum.
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
GT is one of those teams that can beat anyone in the country and then lose to anyone just as easily.
ND is just not that good, period!
Diminishing our win now?
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ND getting smoked by GT at home.
GT is one of those teams that can beat anyone in the country and then lose to anyone just as easily.
ND is just not that good, period!
Diminishing our win now?
Standard operating procedure for LM. ::)
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I again agree with Linda. I don't think ND deserves to be ranked. They are very overrated.
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I again agree with Linda. I don't think ND deserves to be ranked. They are very overrated.
Before our win over them you felt this way?
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I again agree with Linda. I don't think ND deserves to be ranked. They are very overrated.
My favorite word, OVERRATED. Trust me if you analyzed ONLY teams that you think are any good you would have a handful of teams ranked. That's it. Overrated implies you think other teams deserve rating OVER them.
Every team is going thru this type of stretch. Look at Georgetown themselves. Beat UCLA and took Indiana to OT and then they lose to Pitt by 27 at home and lose to USF on the road. UCLA looked lost early in the year then won 7 straight and got back in the top 25.
Cincy was thisclose to being 4-0 on the road in BE play (losing to SU after blowing a late lead) and they are THISCLOSE to being 0-3 at home having survived Marquette in OT. Explain that.
ND beats Cincy on the road and proceeds to get blown out at home to Georgetown.
Marquette is 4-1 in league play this year. They have already played 3 OT games (UCONN at home, Pitt and Cincy on the road) and a 1 pt game at home to Georgetown (49-48).
Explain how every Big East team except for Syracuse and Marquette have a HOME loss already and we are not out of the 3rd week in January.
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My sense is we are making progress with the integration of Branch in lineup and limiting Greene's time. Pleased with Dom's improvement, Sampson and Chris blossoming and Harrison maturing emotionally. That said, on any given night we are vulnerable. Absence of solid perimeter shooting, iffy FT prowess, spotty passing and not playing smart will prove detrimental at times. Beat Rutgers (certainly not a given) and get another four or five BE wins and I will feel we are doing fine. Steal an additional game and this will equate to great success IMO.
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#4 I believe.
“@BigEastMBB: Cincinnati G Sean Kilpatrick (27.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg) is 1/21 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”
Seems like every week either Obekpa or Sampson wins Rookie of the Week. Good days ahead for this team. Need to keep growing and learning. We could have something special.
Branch's emergence is going to be big for us. he and Harrison have to develop some chemistry out there. Once hey do, Our backcourt will be tough to stop.
For some reason it seems like DLOs offense has been oiff since Branch has been starting.
Harrison needs to find his role more as a SG and use Branch to get him open instead of relying on taking on every defense by himself. Harrison will be fine once he finds his rhythm with Branch in there. Our backcourt could be that much better when they get on the same page. Even though Harrison hasn't scored, we have been much better as a team and won. We're heading the right direction.
Harrison's emergence as more of an all around player is more important to the direction of this team. He sees Branch has a knack for getting and sticking his mid range shot and with JaKarr and Dominick improving their offensive game, it takes the pressure off D'Lo feeling that he has to hoist up shots off the double and triple team.
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I again agree with Linda. I don't think ND deserves to be ranked. They are very overrated.
Before our win over them you felt this way?
Based on the few games I've seen this year (including ours), and looking attheir roster, I'm not that impressed.
Georgetown, while more talented and experienced rhan us, suffers from the same inconsistency bug. I'm not yet sold on Marquette---although Buzz seems to get the most out of his roster. Cinci has nothing inside (other than Rubles, who plays more on the wing).
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I again agree with Linda. I don't think ND deserves to be ranked. They are very overrated.
Before our win over them you felt this way?
Based on the few games I've seen this year (including ours), and looking attheir roster, I'm not that impressed.
Georgetown, while more talented and experienced rhan us, suffers from the same inconsistency bug. I'm not yet sold on Marquette---although Buzz seems to get the most out of his roster. Cinci has nothing inside (other than Rubles, who plays more on the wing).
You evaded my question though. Going into our game before the ball was tipped. Did you think ND was overrated?
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Btw, they are supposed to be in the "New York market" but I don't recall seeing a single Seton Hall game this year. Are they on anywhere?
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I again agree with Linda. I don't think ND deserves to be ranked. They are very overrated.
Before our win over them you felt this way?
Based on the few games I've seen this year (including ours), and looking attheir roster, I'm not that impressed.
Georgetown, while more talented and experienced rhan us, suffers from the same inconsistency bug. I'm not yet sold on Marquette---although Buzz seems to get the most out of his roster. Cinci has nothing inside (other than Rubles, who plays more on the wing).
You evaded my question though. Going into our game before the ball was tipped. Did you think ND was overrated?
When I saw that they were in the top 25, I didn't think they belonged there. Going into our game, I felt we would beat them. I was more confident going into that game than I was about the Cinci game (although we've done fairly well against both lately).
In short, yes. Going into our game, I felt that way. Tell me, besides overhyped Cooley, who is the scary player on that team?
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I again agree with Linda. I don't think ND deserves to be ranked. They are very overrated.
Before our win over them you felt this way?
Based on the few games I've seen this year (including ours), and looking attheir roster, I'm not that impressed.
Georgetown, while more talented and experienced rhan us, suffers from the same inconsistency bug. I'm not yet sold on Marquette---although Buzz seems to get the most out of his roster. Cinci has nothing inside (other than Rubles, who plays more on the wing).
You evaded my question though. Going into our game before the ball was tipped. Did you think ND was overrated?
When I saw that they were in the top 25, I didn't think they belonged there. Going into our game, I felt we would beat them. I was more confident going into that game than I was about the Cinci game (although we've done fairly well against both lately).
In short, yes. Going into our game, I felt that way. Tell me, besides overhyped Cooley, who is the scary player on that team?
Cooley is better than he played against us.
I'm one of ND's harshest critics. I have said some pretty damning things over the past few years echoing your sentiments about them being overrated. But facts are facts and they win and often go thru stretches where they run a bunch in a row either way. Their problem is they are not deep at all. Pretty much bordering on the depth we had last year. Connoughton and Martin have been all over the place this year in terms of consistency. Atkins is a solid PG option. We have their number no doubt.
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Cooley is two notches below Harangody
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Providence loses another close one at home v. Pitt. Cotton for PU is one of best guards in BE.
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Villanova hanging with Louisville up 4.
Pretty amazing considering this is the same Nova team that was blown out at home to Columbia.
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I think for tonight we found a worse free throw shooting team then SJU tonight.
Louisville has been dreadful tonight and they just gave back a 6 point lead.
Down 5.
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I think for tonight we found a worse free throw shooting team then SJU tonight.
Louisville has been dreadful tonight and they just gave back a 6 point lead.
Down 5.
Can't believe Villanova is going to win this game.
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I think for tonight we found a worse free throw shooting team then SJU tonight.
Louisville has been dreadful tonight and they just gave back a 6 point lead.
Down 5.
Can't believe Villanova is going to win this game.
Played well...shows you the importance of hitting FTs...
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Shocking win! Crazy conference!
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“@AdamZagoria: Big East Notebook – Pitino Says Nation Lacks a Dominant Team; Lavin Wouldn’t Trade Class; Rice May Shake Up Lineup http://t.co/s2ihFg3V (http://t.co/s2ihFg3V)”
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http://sbn.to/V0mo9I (http://sbn.to/V0mo9I)
Defensive stats.
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Possibly losing Martin would add to ND struggles;
“@jeffborzello: Seems like Scott Martin has been around since the 90s, but nagging knee injuries could force him to miss rest of year: http://t.co/C4NVecPb (http://t.co/C4NVecPb)”
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Possibly losing Martin would add to ND struggles;
“@jeffborzello: Seems like Scott Martin has been around since the 90s, but nagging knee injuries could force him to miss rest of year: http://t.co/C4NVecPb (http://t.co/C4NVecPb)”
He definitely didn't look right this year.
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#9
“@eamonnbrennan: Conference Power Rankings: Big East http://t.co/bdwGGGKp (http://t.co/bdwGGGKp)”
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Possibly losing Martin would add to ND struggles;
“@jeffborzello: Seems like Scott Martin has been around since the 90s, but nagging knee injuries could force him to miss rest of year: http://t.co/C4NVecPb (http://t.co/C4NVecPb)”
He definitely didn't look right this year.
If he is out for year, helps us a bit playing at ND IMO.
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Possibly losing Martin would add to ND struggles;
“@jeffborzello: Seems like Scott Martin has been around since the 90s, but nagging knee injuries could force him to miss rest of year: http://t.co/C4NVecPb (http://t.co/C4NVecPb)”
He definitely didn't look right this year.
If he is out for year, helps us a bit playing at ND IMO.
Definitely. They only went 7 deep as is.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
Archapodomus flops every chance he gets.
Should have went to Duke.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
Archapodomus flops every chance he gets.
Should have went to Duke.
Very annoying player.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
Archapodomus flops every chance he gets.
Should have went to Duke.
Nova gets almost as many calls as duke this year. What's with that? I feel like I'm watching a Paulus-led Duke team here. Only reason we lost to them was the refs happy whistles all game. Same thing happening now to Cuse.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
Share the same perspective MCN.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
Archapodomus flops every chance he gets.
Should have went to Duke.
Nova gets almost as many calls as duke this year. What's with that? I feel like I'm watching a Paulus-led Duke team here. Only reason we lost to them was the refs happy whistles all game. Same thing happening now to Cuse.
Ive been watching on and off, missed the first 6-7 minutes of the second half. But a lot of the calls ive seen have been against cuse. Couple block/charges come to mind.
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ND struggling v. USF, down 3 with two and change to go in first half.
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Syracuse is very vulnerable this year too. Not as good as past years, especially their defense.
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Like that Heslip guy, who went nuts against us! Ha!
“@jeffborzello: Since knocking down seven 3-pointers against St. John's, Ryan Arcidiacono is 6-for-32 from 3-point range over his last six games.”
hit that one though!
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Syracuse is very vulnerable this year too. Not as good as past years, especially their defense.
Just thinking the same thing. They have not looked dominant. They just find ways to win. However, it is their offense that seems lacking to me.
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Jakarr just got a shout out in the Cuse-Nova game. Announcer said Ryan A and him are two contenders for BEROY.
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Syracuse is very vulnerable this year too. Not as good as past years, especially their defense.
Just thinking the same thing. They have not looked dominant. They just find ways to win. However, it is their offense that seems lacking to me.
Yeah, offense hasn't looked good either. Nova has rebounding position every time. Nova is killing Cuse's zone with their big guys and Cuse makes no adjustments. Cuse should go man-d and possibly change it up.
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Trying my best to enjoy all these big east games - good stuff today. After realignment kills this conference I hope to find big east level ball somewhere in the future
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Trying my best to enjoy all these big east games - good stuff today. After realignment kills this conference I hope to find big east level ball somewhere in the future
Nova has a good future looking at this team as well. Jay Wright's rumored demise is premature. They have some good bigs and guards. Good players still being recruited. They're getting better.
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Cuse's 2-3 this year has their players really chasing. Poor rotation.
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MCW not getting it done.
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Cuse not getting vets, Fair and Triche touches.
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Grown lville a close one right now. On pace for 60 points!
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Big W for Nova, quite a week!
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Was rooting for a Cuse win---as hard as that is---because of the standings. But I just LOVE seeing Cuse go down!
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so much for the demise Jay Wright
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Nova throwing off the curve for STJ, lol. Good win for them though, always nice to see Cuse lose.
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Now our only choice is to beat Cuse too!
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Great for Nova-2 top 5 wins in the same week. Great for the future of the C7
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so much for the demise Jay Wright
Cue Gonzalo...3...2...1...
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Jakarr just got a shout out in the Cuse-Nova game. Announcer said Ryan A and him are two contenders for BEROY.
Archiejacomo is rather inconsistent. Despite hitting the tying 3, he didn't have a good game. I missed most of the OT (had to walk the dog) but he missed a lot of shots. After a slow start, Jakarr is consistently around his scoring average.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
Share the same perspective MCN.
Syracuse is not as good as it is perceived to be.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
Share the same perspective MCN.
Syracuse is not as good as it is perceived to be.
Agree, MCW is erratic, bigs are ordinary and bench so so. Southerland coming back is a must.
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If G'town beats Louisville, there will be 7 teams tied at 4-3. Tomorrow is a MUST win for us or we fall behind the pack.
I'm hoping for Louisville win because I think we will have two losses against Georgetown.
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Just thinking same;
“@NJHoopsHaven: Nova's two massive Ws won't hurt the Catholic 7's TV contract negotiations either.”
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Just thinking same;
“@NJHoopsHaven: Nova's two massive Ws won't hurt the Catholic 7's TV contract negotiations either.”
Bigger picture, SJU just needs to win...period! Forget what the rest of em do. We win, we put ourselves in good shape. Take down the "top" teams and then they are struggling and vulnerable as well. Gotta pull for the Catholics to win, except against us...
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GT wins! Mrs. Pitino staying with her sister tonight.
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Just thinking same;
“@NJHoopsHaven: Nova's two massive Ws won't hurt the Catholic 7's TV contract negotiations either.”
Bigger picture, SJU just needs to win...period! Forget what the rest of em do. We win, we put ourselves in good shape. Take down the "top" teams and then they are struggling and vulnerable as well. Gotta pull for the Catholics to win, except against us...
Exactly
We just need to take care of business
The better the C7 does, the better our future conference will look and the money they command goes back into our basketball program. It also gives s the hammer to get what we want from Aresco and his Conf USA cronies.
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This just irks me the only games we really came out and got bet were Baylor and Gtown, we gave away 5 games, 5 GAMES!! If we don't make the tourney it's gonna really be hard to get over Amir fouling at the end of nova, 17 point give away against unc, 8 point giveaway vs Murry, rutgers at home and the poor mans Steve Nash in San fran
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Go Catholics!
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Just thinking same;
“@NJHoopsHaven: Nova's two massive Ws won't hurt the Catholic 7's TV contract negotiations either.”
Bigger picture, SJU just needs to win...period! Forget what the rest of em do. We win, we put ourselves in good shape. Take down the "top" teams and then they are struggling and vulnerable as well. Gotta pull for the Catholics to win, except against us...
+1 As long as we keep on winning things will take care of themselves. A lineup of Branch. DLO,Dom,Sampson and CO is quite good, team is developing chemistry and improving. Lets take care of SHU and move on from there.
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Marquette beating up on Providence, but game stalled because of a bat flying on court.
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There is a live bat flying around courtside, dive bombing the players on the court of the Providence - Marquette game. Stadium staff plays the Batman theme song, classic.
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There is a live bat flying around courtside, dive bombing the players on the court of the Providence - Marquette game. Stadium staff plays the Batman theme song, classic.
Hope the poor bat doesn't get tangled up in Buzz's hair.
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Holy crap they turned out the lights to calm the bat down. I thought bats came out at night ?
No f'ing way I'd be sitting in my seats in the dark with a bat dive bombing the inside of the arena.
Closest you will see me to a bat is drinking bacardi
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I might be wrong but if we win tomorrow, we will be alone in 3RD place. Go Johnnies, Go!!!
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Correct, bit no jinxing. Ha
http://www.bigeast.org/Sports/MensBasketball.aspx (http://www.bigeast.org/Sports/MensBasketball.aspx)
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Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Could have easily been at 6-1 and tied with Cuse for 1st place. This conference is so strange this year.
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Nova up 6 at half v. Cuse. Still think Cuse will win, but what is Nova drinking? Ha!
They're playing well. They are a catholic and I normally want them to win, but I don't think it's in our best interest with nova having a win over us this season.
Archapodomus flops every chance he gets.
Should have went to Duke.
Very annoying player.
He is but I have to give him his due...for a freshmen PG he is pretty good player and appears to be vocal leader
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Jakarr just got a shout out in the Cuse-Nova game. Announcer said Ryan A and him are two contenders for BEROY.
It's jakarr by a mile IMO. Ryan A has the fact that his team beat nova and cuse but he was 6 for 20 and had more to's than assists. If you polled all 15 coaches I think 15 of them would prefer jakarr. The only difference is that Ryan A is a four year player whereas jakarr is probably 2 and done at most.
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Cuse loses a road game and you knock em out of the top 4? Really? You think they lose a game at home this year?
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Cuse loses a road game and you knock em out of the top 4? Really? You think they lose a game at home this year?
Yes, Feb. 10
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Cuse loses a road game and you knock em out of the top 4? Really? You think they lose a game at home this year?
Yup. February 10th. Ill be the only guy wearing red in a sea full of orange.
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Cuse loses a road game and you knock em out of the top 4? Really? You think they lose a game at home this year?
Yup. February 10th. Ill be the only guy wearing red in a sea full of orange.
May God bless you.
Also I will supply the $ to bail you out :)
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Cuse loses a road game and you knock em out of the top 4? Really? You think they lose a game at home this year?
Yup. February 10th. Ill be the only guy wearing red in a sea full of orange.
May God bless you.
Also I will supply the $ to bail you out :)
Haha appreciate the generosity moose but wont be necessary, friend I'm goin with owes me a bail out lol
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Cuse loses a road game and you knock em out of the top 4? Really? You think they lose a game at home this year?
Yup. February 10th. Ill be the only guy wearing red in a sea full of orange.
God speed... And may God have mercy on your soul if the Johnnies win...if you survive stop by kitty Hoynes, great place to have a beer.
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Ah screw it. Nova won. I hope Georgetown does too. Lates make the top 4 this year marquette, Georgetown, St. johns and Nova!
Cuse loses a road game and you knock em out of the top 4? Really? You think they lose a game at home this year?
Yup. February 10th. Ill be the only guy wearing red in a sea full of orange.
God speed... And may God have mercy on your soul if the Johnnies win...if you survive stop by kitty Hoynes, great place to have a beer.
Haha there will be no stopping me if we win. They'll have to tear my limbs off to slow me down. And I'll have to check that place out. Is it in the Irish district?
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No, it's actually downtown right next door to daisy dukes which is a cowboy type place. i apologize it has been a few years. There is another bar that is next to a street light that has the green light on top, because the Irish immigrants could not stand have the green at the bottom of the light.
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No, it's actually downtown right next door to daisy dukes which is a cowboy type place. i apologize it has been a few years. There is another bar that is next to a street light that has the green light on top, because the Irish immigrants could not stand have the green at the bottom of the light.
Thanks for the heads up nud! I'm goin out in cuse the night before ill be sure to look out for it.
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No, it's actually downtown right next door to daisy dukes which is a cowboy type place. i apologize it has been a few years. There is another bar that is next to a street light that has the green light on top, because the Irish immigrants could not stand have the green at the bottom of the light.
Thanks for the heads up nud! I'm goin out in cuse the night before ill be sure to look out for it.
No worries, please let me know what you think and hopefully you will be bragging how St. John's won as well!
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I should be at the Cuse game as well. I am usually the only one in red there every year. I have been known to wear my johnnies gear even when Cuse is playing someone else. The fans don't usually talk shit they usually just feel bad for me. I would give anything for a johnnies win at the Dome
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I should be at the Cuse game as well. I am usually the only one in red there every year. I have been known to wear my johnnies gear even when Cuse is playing someone else. The fans don't usually talk shit they usually just feel bad for me. I would give anything for a johnnies win at the Dome
This is always the worst day of the year for me. I have several friends who went to SU. Their fan base, program, school etc. We cannot compete in any way. Not even in our own house. It's maddening. We may never outnumber them in Syracuse, but we need to show some spine in NY if they foolishly keep this "rivalry" going.
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I should be at the Cuse game as well. I am usually the only one in red there every year. I have been known to wear my johnnies gear even when Cuse is playing someone else. The fans don't usually talk shit they usually just feel bad for me. I would give anything for a johnnies win at the Dome
This is always the worst day of the year for me. I have several friends who went to SU. Their fan base, program, school etc. We cannot compete in any way. Not even in our own house. It's maddening. We may never outnumber them in Syracuse, but we need to show some spine in NY if they foolishly keep this "rivalry" going.
You an STJ grad?
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I should be at the Cuse game as well. I am usually the only one in red there every year. I have been known to wear my johnnies gear even when Cuse is playing someone else. The fans don't usually talk shit they usually just feel bad for me. I would give anything for a johnnies win at the Dome
This is always the worst day of the year for me. I have several friends who went to SU. Their fan base, program, school etc. We cannot compete in any way. Not even in our own house. It's maddening. We may never outnumber them in Syracuse, but we need to show some spine in NY if they foolishly keep this "rivalry" going.
You an STJ grad?
No
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Bruce Beck is doing piece on SJU tonight on Miked Up.
Seth also gives us a kudo!
“@SethDavisHoops: In case you haven't noticed, St. Johns has won four in a row. Could be five with a win at home over DePaul this week.”
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“@BigEastMBB: Villanova G Darrun Hilliard (18.0 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.5 apg) is BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”
Harrison on honor roll as well.
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“@LennRobbins: JaKarr Sampson with his 5th Big East Rookie of the Week honor, halfway to Carmelo Anthony's 10..Allen Iverson at 9 #stjbb”
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“@PSBasketball: RT @goodmancbs: Louisville desperately needs win tonight vs. Pitt -- Cards will be without Blackshear (shoulder) and Kevin Ware (suspension)”
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“@PSBasketball: RT @goodmancbs: Louisville desperately needs win tonight vs. Pitt -- Cards will be without Blackshear (shoulder) and Kevin Ware (suspension)”
Id prefer Pitt moves to the top of the league and then we beat them at home... ;)
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Not a big loss in terms of his contribution, but makes a thin bench thinner. Southerland is needed badly. Cuse is very vulnerable without him.
“@PSBasketball: Syracuse freshman Dajuan Coleman to have surgery on left knee Tuesday. Recovery expected to take four weeks.”
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Louisville is gonna have a hard time winning if Siva and Russ Smith keep playing like they hate each other. Neither one wants to pass the ball to the other.
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L'Ville beats Pitt by 3. Pitino did a good job juggling lineup being so short handed. Dieng was great.
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L'Ville beats Pitt by 3. Pitino did a good job juggling lineup being so short handed. Dieng was great.
Can't believe how good of a passer dieng is.
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L'Ville beats Pitt by 3. Pitino did a good job juggling lineup being so short handed. Dieng was great.
Can't believe how good of a passer dieng is.
Dieng was nothing like this a few years ago. I hope Obekpa can continue to work to be half as good as Dieng on the offensive end. With time and hard work he can improve a ton though. Dieng is a good example.
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Is it OK to comment on WVU in this thread. Man, they are looking more and more like the new BC.
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Is it OK to comment on WVU in this thread. Man, they are looking more and more like the new BC.
Haha you beat me to this exact post. Enjoy the Big 12 Huggy Bear! He's gonna go through 50 sweatsuits this year at this rate
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Not to get off big east topic, but gonna compare wvu to sju that got in tourney in 2002. If I remember correctly a lot of people questioned if we should got in that yr like wvu last year. I'm not saying wvu gonna go in tank cause of sanctions but I could see them spiraling down like sju did for yrs to come especially if huggy bear calls it quits. Wvu is not exactly a hot bed in recruiting world as most of their success hindered on NYC talent and now that they are not playing in garden anymore the allure of metro area recruits could dwindle
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As we criticize WVU, they go on a nice little run to make this a game vs Kansas. Self must have let Norm call a few plays there...
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Is it OK to comment on WVU in this thread. Man, they are looking more and more like the new BC.
They looked like an episode of Buck Wild there before they started to pull it together. IMO I don't think they'll be as good as the were the last few years for a while now.
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Not to get off big east topic, but gonna compare wvu to sju that got in tourney in 2002. If I remember correctly a lot of people questioned if we should got in that yr like wvu last year. I'm not saying wvu gonna go in tank cause of sanctions but I could see them spiraling down like sju did for yrs to come especially if huggy bear calls it quits. Wvu is not exactly a hot bed in recruiting world as most of their success hindered on NYC talent and now that they are not playing in garden anymore the allure of metro area recruits could dwindle
Don't know what "hindered" means, but agree with the essence of your post: fewer NYC kids are going to be attracted to West Virginia now that they're in the SEC. It's run its cycle.
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Not to get off big east topic, but gonna compare wvu to sju that got in tourney in 2002. If I remember correctly a lot of people questioned if we should got in that yr like wvu last year. I'm not saying wvu gonna go in tank cause of sanctions but I could see them spiraling down like sju did for yrs to come especially if huggy bear calls it quits. Wvu is not exactly a hot bed in recruiting world as most of their success hindered on NYC talent and now that they are not playing in garden anymore the allure of metro area recruits could dwindle
Don't know what "hindered" means, but agree with the essence of your post: fewer NYC kids are going to be attracted to West Virginia now that they're in the SEC. It's run its cycle.
SEC or Big 12? So hard to keep up w this crap. It changes so often. Penalty for leaving the BE should have been the death penalty. Hopefully, they've learned their lesson.
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Probably meant to type "hinged." Auto correct is a bitch
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Not to get off big east topic, but gonna compare wvu to sju that got in tourney in 2002. If I remember correctly a lot of people questioned if we should got in that yr like wvu last year. I'm not saying wvu gonna go in tank cause of sanctions but I could see them spiraling down like sju did for yrs to come especially if huggy bear calls it quits. Wvu is not exactly a hot bed in recruiting world as most of their success hindered on NYC talent and now that they are not playing in garden anymore the allure of metro area recruits could dwindle
Don't know what "hindered" means, but agree with the essence of your post: fewer NYC kids are going to be attracted to West Virginia now that they're in the SEC. It's run its cycle.
Plus Huggy bear is overdue for some sort of incident pretty soon. ;)
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Is it OK to comment on WVU in this thread. Man, they are looking more and more like the new BC.
They would have struggled this year whether in the Big East or not look at the decline they have been on. He is great coach but he needs to infuse some big time talent back at Morgantown or they are going to be mediocre for awhile. See below for recent conference records:
2009-10: 13-5 BE Tourney champs and Final Four.
2010-11: 11-7 5th seed in NCAA Tourney, won 1st round.
2011-12: 9-9 squeeze into NCAA's as a 11th seed and get smoked in first round by Gonzaga.
2012-13: 8-10 overall, 2-5 in Big 12.
Notice an obvious trend? Sort of like Villanova the last few years under Jay. WVU lost guys like Da'Sean Butler, Devin Ebanks, Kevin Jones, Flowers, Truck Bryant etc over those 3 years and he has not adequately replaced them.
Like Jay he is a good coach but this is how quickly things can go in the other direction especially if recruiting goes in the wrong direction for a year or 2.
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Is it OK to comment on WVU in this thread. Man, they are looking more and more like the new BC.
They would have struggled this year whether in the Big East or not look at the decline they have been on. He is great coach but he needs to infuse some big time talent back at Morgantown or they are going to be mediocre for awhile. See below for recent conference records:
2009-10: 13-5 BE Tourney champs and Final Four.
2010-11: 11-7 5th seed in NCAA Tourney, won 1st round.
2011-12: 9-9 squeeze into NCAA's as a 11th seed and get smoked in first round by Gonzaga.
2012-13: 8-10 overall, 2-5 in Big 12.
Notice an obvious trend? Sort of like Villanova the last few years under Jay. WVU lost guys like Da'Sean Butler, Devin Ebanks, Kevin Jones, Flowers, Truck Bryant etc over those 3 years and he has not adequately replaced them.
Like Jay he is a good coach but this is how quickly things can go in the other direction especially if recruiting goes in the wrong direction for a year or 2.
No program (except maybe Duke) is immune to the occassional lulls caused by early depatures and weak recruiting classes. For example, UNC is on the ropes this year with a young team. And FWIW, Nova is one of the hottest team in the country right now. Wouldn't be shocked if they finish strong and make the tourney given their remaining schedule, including games against Prov, Hall, Rutgers, USF, DePaul, Pitt and UConn.
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Is it OK to comment on WVU in this thread. Man, they are looking more and more like the new BC.
I agree with the BC reference; particularly the more removed from the BE. When in the BE, they recruited a lot of NY area kids with the ability to say that they would get to play in front of the home folks (4 schools they vist were close-us , SH, RU, Conn and Nove a short train/car ride plus the tournament). Now WVU is THE East in their conference. Good luck in recruiting so kids parents and friends in OK, Kan. Iowa and Tex can see their kids. At least they will get the money from the FB TV contract and have the nearest away game a mere 800 miles WEST. They will reap what they sow--nothing grows in WV :)
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“@MattSugam: #Rutgers' Wally Judge @Judge_me_now tells @SNYtv he could have a lingering knee issue for the rest of the year: http://t.co/kZwCzK0U (http://t.co/kZwCzK0U) #RHoops”
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Honest appraisal of Marquette record by fan blog. Should put our record in perspective as well IMO.
“@PaintTouches: New to PT: 6-1 in the Big East is nice, but this is what you should know about Marquette's schedule: http://t.co/Hheja3TU (http://t.co/Hheja3TU) … #mubb”
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King from ESPN today;
THOUGHTS FROM PRESS ROW
1. Add St. John's to the list of teams on the NCAA tournament bubble. Sunday's victory over Seton Hall was the fourth straight for Steve Lavin's squad, which is now 13-7
THOUGHTS FROM PRESS ROW
1. Add St. John's to the list of teams on the NCAA tournament bubble. Sunday's victory over Seton Hall was the fourth straight for Steve Lavin's squad, which is now 13-7 overall and 5-3 in league play.
Not bad for a team that entered 2013 toting losses to San Francisco and UNC-Asheville.
"It all started with the Notre Dame game," forward JaKarr Sampson said of his team's Jan. 15 win over the then-No. 20 Fighting Irish. "Things started to take off after that.
"Our chemistry is just so strong. Everyone on the team is finding ways to step up."
Shooting guard D.J. Harrison leads the Red Storm with 19.8 points per game, and freshman Chris Obekpa ranks second in the nation in blocks with 4.6. Lately, though, the 6-foot-8 Sampson has been one of the team's biggest threats. He's averaging 14.3 points on the season and 16.8 points during the Red Storm's current win streak. His 6.5 rebounds per game are a team high.
Sampson's college career was supposed to begin last season, but he was declared academically ineligible by the NCAA and returned to his prep school, Brewster (N.H.) Academy, for a post-graduate year.
"I was upset at first, because I was disappointed in myself," Sampson said. "But that year actually ended up helping me. I got stronger and improved my game to the point it's at today."
Sampson decommitted from St. John's last fall and took official visits to Kansas and Baylor. Eventually, though, he switched back to his original plan and renewed his pledge to the Red Storm.
"[Lavin] recruited me even harder the second time," Sampson said. "He was making more calls, coming to visit me more. I had developed such good relationships with all of the players and coaches. I realized this is where I wanted to be all along."
“@JasonKingESPN: ... Report Cards, an All-Mark Few team, thoughts on Oklahoma Joe's & @Whataburger, notes on St.Johns, Colorado & more http://t.co/7UipPz36 (http://t.co/7UipPz36)”
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Lenn Robbins @LennRobbins
St. John's and Syracuse agree to a home and home series starting next season. #stjbb
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Lenn Robbins @LennRobbins
St. John's and Syracuse agree to a home and home series starting next season. #stjbb
Wonderful.
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Lenn Robbins @LennRobbins
St. John's and Syracuse agree to a home and home series starting next season. #stjbb
Wonderful.
mid December at the Garden then upstate next year
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Anything to get out of playing Iona!
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Lenn Robbins @LennRobbins
St. John's and Syracuse agree to a home and home series starting next season. #stjbb
To be the best you gotta beat the best.
I've been consistently in favor of this since the leagues started breaking up.
And, I'll say this.... I don't know who has the first home game, but if our whole team returns and we add Lawrence, the home game against 'Cuse at MSG would easily be the highlight of the regular season for me.
For the first time in a long time we wouldn't be bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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Lenn Robbins @LennRobbins
St. John's and Syracuse agree to a home and home series starting next season. #stjbb
I won't buy a ticket
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Syracuse just wanted another in state non conference game.
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So cuse gets us 1 big OOC game. Need two more, I want duke, and a western school, my option is Gonzaga but would also like UCLA, or Zona.
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So cuse gets us 1 big OOC game. Need two more, I want duke, and a western school, my option is Gonzaga but would also like UCLA, or Zona.
Has it been announced if we're in an early season tournament next year?
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Anything to get out of playing Iona!
Haha..
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Anything to get out of playing Iona!
watch your back--you have made Baldi's hit list ;D
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So cuse gets us 1 big OOC game. Need two more, I want duke, and a western school, my option is Gonzaga but would also like UCLA, or Zona.
Has it been announced if we're in an early season tournament next year?
Not sure Desco. Would like to be part of the maui
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So cuse gets us 1 big OOC game. Need two more, I want duke, and a western school, my option is Gonzaga but would also like UCLA, or Zona.
Has it been announced if we're in an early season tournament next year?
Not sure Desco. Would like to be part of the maui
Its been mentioned we are part of Maui and Atlantis but not next year. I'm guessing NIT.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/76501/take-two-should-big-east-keep-its-name (http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/76501/take-two-should-big-east-keep-its-name)
Q: How many Big East teams remain from the first year the league began playing football in 1991?
A: One. Temple.
That, my friends, is exactly why the Big East should politely hand over its conference name to the breakaway hoops schools and start over. Because nothing in this current/future league iteration shouts Big East.
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Bet he will be back for our game;
“@PSBasketball: James Southerland will miss Syracuse's next two games before his appeal is heard. http://t.co/xMe6SERs (http://t.co/xMe6SERs)”
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Bet he will be back for our game;
“@PSBasketball: James Southerland will miss Syracuse's next two games before his appeal is heard. http://t.co/xMe6SERs (http://t.co/xMe6SERs)”
But of course
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If it is the same appeals board that ruled on Devendorf we're in trouble.
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/suspension_of_sus_eric_devendo.html (http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/suspension_of_sus_eric_devendo.html)
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Cooley sitting Council and Henton at start v. UConn tonight. Henton surprisingly has struggled this season. Am hoping Friars can knock off Huskies.
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“@NeillOstrout: #UConn 33, PC 32 at the half. Huskies squandered nearly all of that 15-point lead by the half.”
Council rallied team after sitting out ten minutes. Boatright of UConn seems to be struggling with knee problem. UConn has no interior presence and rebounds poorly. All in all, I like our chances against them at MSG next week. If Boatright continues to struggle, I like us even better.
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“@NeillOstrout: #UConn 33, PC 32 at the half. Huskies squandered nearly all of that 15-point lead by the half.”
Council rallied team after sitting out ten minutes. Boatright of UConn seems to be struggling with knee problem. UConn has no interior presence and rebounds poorly. All in all, I like our chances against them at MSG next week. If Boatright continues to struggle, I like us even better.
Agree, I think were a better team than UCANT
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“@NeillOstrout: #UConn 33, PC 32 at the half. Huskies squandered nearly all of that 15-point lead by the half.”
Council rallied team after sitting out ten minutes. Boatright of UConn seems to be struggling with knee problem. UConn has no interior presence and rebounds poorly. All in all, I like our chances against them at MSG next week. If Boatright continues to struggle, I like us even better.
Good call "Billy". Our most winable game of the next 4.
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Uconn 69 PC 69 to OT
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I hope Uconn wins. I want to play them when they have confidence and some wins under their belt.
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UConn wins by 3 in OT.
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PC is not that far off. They have a nice base of talent and with Austin and presumably Ledo next year they should be ready to go to the NIT.
DePaul is making some strides as well. They are not elite obviously but they are slowly getting better.
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PC is not that far off. They have a nice base of talent and with Austin and presumably Ledo next year they should be ready to go to the NIT.
DePaul is making some strides as well. They are not elite obviously but they are slowly getting better.
You really think Ledo stays?
Bad year for the draft put him over the top to leave.
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I think PC will be tough to beat this year too. They have some nice talent both in backcourt and frontcourt. Still glad Uconn won though. I want to play them at the Garden when they are "up".
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PC is not that far off. They have a nice base of talent and with Austin and presumably Ledo next year they should be ready to go to the NIT.
DePaul is making some strides as well. They are not elite obviously but they are slowly getting better.
You really think Ledo stays?
Bad year for the draft put him over the top to leave.
50/50 but even without him they got a nice core, Dunn is going to be a really good BE point guard.
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PC is not that far off. They have a nice base of talent and with Austin and presumably Ledo next year they should be ready to go to the NIT.
DePaul is making some strides as well. They are not elite obviously but they are slowly getting better.
You really think Ledo stays?
Bad year for the draft put him over the top to leave.
50/50 but even without him they got a nice core, Dunn is going to be a really good BE point guard.
Hasn't Dunn under performed to date. Based on his high accolades
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PC is not that far off. They have a nice base of talent and with Austin and presumably Ledo next year they should be ready to go to the NIT.
DePaul is making some strides as well. They are not elite obviously but they are slowly getting better.
You really think Ledo stays?
Bad year for the draft put him over the top to leave.
50/50 but even without him they got a nice core, Dunn is going to be a really good BE point guard.
Hasn't Dunn under performed to date. Based on his high accolades
A little raw but his potential is off the charts
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No way Ledo plays next year. And I thought they lose Council as well? Austin, on the other hand, seems like a real nice player from what I've read.
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Young or not, Cooley's team this year has too often gotten into a big hole early, fought back, but fallen short in the end. I question his strategic ability, but know he is trying to resurrect a dormant program. BTW, Sidiki played a lot last game but DNP last night? IMO, just a matter of time before he transfers to Iona. Ha!
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7. St. John’s. The Red Storm could catapult up these rankings in a week. St. John’s has won five in a row, showing a streak of consistency few in this league can match. The catch? The Red Storm have feasted on the bottom of the standings (with the exception of Notre Dame) to get out on that run. I want to see how St. John’s does in upcoming games against Georgetown and Connecticut.
“@eamonnbrennan: Conference Power Rankings: Big East http://t.co/FzdYMrJV (http://t.co/FzdYMrJV)”
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7. St. John’s. The Red Storm could catapult up these rankings in a week. St. John’s has won five in a row, showing a streak of consistency few in this league can match. The catch? The Red Storm have feasted on the bottom of the standings (with the exception of Notre Dame) to get out on that run. I want to see how St. John’s does in upcoming games against Georgetown and Connecticut.
“@eamonnbrennan: Conference Power Rankings: Big East http://t.co/FzdYMrJV (http://t.co/FzdYMrJV)”
Entirely agree with that statement.
Georgetown is vulnerable if we can tire them out. They still outsize us without Whittington but we are a different team than 3 weeks ago. We will see if staff can put together a strong gameplan and the team can play at a hostile arena.
I don't expect a repeat of a 7 point performance from Harrison with 3-12 shooting and 0-5 from 3 point.
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Young or not, Cooley's team this year has too often gotten into a big hole early, fought back, but fallen short in the end. I question his strategic ability, but know he is trying to resurrect a dormant program. BTW, Sidiki played a lot last game but DNP last night? IMO, just a matter of time before he transfers to Iona. Ha!
I just looked at the box score and Providence out rebounded UCONN 55 to 24. Its tough to lose a game where you have so many more opportunities than the other team.
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7. St. John’s. The Red Storm could catapult up these rankings in a week. St. John’s has won five in a row, showing a streak of consistency few in this league can match. The catch? The Red Storm have feasted on the bottom of the standings (with the exception of Notre Dame) to get out on that run. I want to see how St. John’s does in upcoming games against Georgetown and Connecticut.
“@eamonnbrennan: Conference Power Rankings: Big East http://t.co/FzdYMrJV (http://t.co/FzdYMrJV)”
Entirely agree with that statement.
Georgetown is vulnerable if we can tire them out. They still outsize us without Whittington but we are a different team than 3 weeks ago. We will see if staff can put together a strong gameplan and the team can play at a hostile arena.
I don't expect a repeat of a 7 point performance from Harrison with 3-12 shooting and 0-5 from 3 point.
What you can expect is for G'Town to do what they did last time...flat out double DLo almost every time he touches the ball within 25 feet and force somebody else to beat them. Not only did DLo have a bad game that day, Amir was 0-7, Jakarr was 5-14, and PG4 was 0-4. That cant happen again. It will be interesting to see how we adjust and if DLo can stay patient and take advantage of the double.
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It will be interesting to see if Lavin adjusts unlike Looie who never adjusted to Gtown hence 3 loses in 4 tries in '85
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It will be interesting to see if Lavin adjusts unlike Looie who never adjusted to Gtown hence 3 loses in 4 tries in '85
Sometimes it is not so much about adjustments but about the fact that one team is just flat better then the other.
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DePaul lands a 3-start wing:
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/01/31/depaul-picks-up-3-star-wing-r-j-curington/ (http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/01/31/depaul-picks-up-3-star-wing-r-j-curington/)
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Watching this Cuse Pitt game Jim Burr continues to be one of the most incompetent people to walk the face of the earth. It's truly amazing he is able to pull the wool over the eyes of whoever his boss is.
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Watching this Cuse Pitt game Jim Burr continues to be one of the most incompetent people to walk the face of the earth. It's truly amazing he is able to pull the wool over the eyes of whoever his boss is.
Is this a Bob Knight post? :) Totally agree, he should be forced to retire.
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In Women's Hoops:
St. John's is tied at the Half with UConn
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DePaul giving Notre Dame all they can handle. Notre dame up 1 with 8 minutes and change to go. Go DePaul!
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Great game in Chicago.
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ND ,DePaul in OT
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ND ,DePaul in OT
Looks like DePaul ran out of gas...
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ND wins by 8 over DePaul
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Riding high in April, shot down in May;
“@TerryToohey: Villanova is 1 for its last 16. Providence leads, 52-43. Crowd starting to file out”
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Nova coming back. Providence is playing scared.
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PC leads by two after turning ing ball over 4 straight times. 40 secs left
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Worst possible offensive set but it results in a Cotton 3
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Cotton nails a 3 with game tied to beat Nova. Kid is a tough college player!
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Now the PC fans will have them in the final four and as we lost our fans will have us failing to make the cutoff for the NIT ;)
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“@DaveBorges: One of best parts of Kevin Ollie's rookie year is that #UConn has won every game it should win. That could change today. 27-15 USF at half.”
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“@DaveBorges: One of best parts of Kevin Ollie's rookie year is that #UConn has won every game it should win. That could change today. 27-15 USF at half.”
Would like them coming into MSG off a win not a loss.
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“@DaveBorges: One of best parts of Kevin Ollie's rookie year is that #UConn has won every game it should win. That could change today. 27-15 USF at half.”
Would like them coming into MSG off a win not a loss.
I hear that all the time and I'm not sure I agree with it. I prefer playing a team whose confidence is shaken than one that is riding high.
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L'Ville up 14 at half over Marq.
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“@DaveBorges: One of best parts of Kevin Ollie's rookie year is that #UConn has won every game it should win. That could change today. 27-15 USF at half.”
Would like them coming into MSG off a win not a loss.
I hear that all the time and I'm not sure I agree with it. I prefer playing a team whose confidence is shaken than one that is riding high.
Two schools of thought. They can also be hyped up like never before and beat your brains in.
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UConn in OT v. USF & Louisville drubs M'Q.
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UConn wins in OT. Should be good game Wed. Like our chances. At least they don't have good bigs. Guards are tough obviously.
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UConn wins in OT. Should be good game Wed. Like our chances. At least they don't have good bigs. Guards are tough obviously.
Their bigs can match ours. Can we match their guards?
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Great question Poison. With Branch that is far more likely, but without I think we need a vintage Dlo game and Dom to step up.
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UConn wins in OT. Should be good game Wed. Like our chances. At least they don't have good bigs. Guards are tough obviously.
Their bigs can match ours. Can we match their guards?
We need Harrison to return to form. There guards are better than ours IMO.
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Tonight, I am officially announcing that I am committing to...Cincinnati (as a fan). After much soul searching and consulting with my family, I realize that their fan boards are the right place for me. They will be best able to help me develop my posting skills and get me to the next level (as a fan).
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Tonight, I am officially announcing that I am committing to...Cincinnati (as a fan). After much soul searching and consulting with my family, I realize that their fan boards are the right place for me. They will be best able to help me develop my posting skills and get me to the next level (as a fan).
Best of luck to you but poison is not going to like it! :)
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The comments about absence of "handlers" timely; Rutgers recruit.
“@NJHoopsHaven: Broward coach Bob Starkman said Craig Brown is a great kid with "no handlers, no AAU coaches" involved. The story: http://t.co/nRk6BDrK (http://t.co/nRk6BDrK)”
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Tonight, I am officially announcing that I am committing to...Cincinnati (as a fan). After much soul searching and consulting with my family, I realize that their fan boards are the right place for me. They will be best able to help me develop my posting skills and get me to the next level (as a fan).
You mean you don't have a handler?
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Feel bad for Williard, one injury or problem after another.
“@JPPelzman: Seton Hall shorthanded again tonight. Soph G Aaron Cosby didn't travel to Pittsburgh b/c of a family issue, according to the school. #shbb”
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Tonight, I am officially announcing that I am committing to...Cincinnati (as a fan). After much soul searching and consulting with my family, I realize that their fan boards are the right place for me. They will be best able to help me develop my posting skills and get me to the next level (as a fan).
You mean you don't have a handler?
Who's playing you in the TV special?
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Denzel is playing me. Brad Pitt is Mick Cronin and DeNiro is Naclerio.
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Cuse up 12 with ten minutes to go.
Southerland will likely be back for SJU game. His SU Review Board, meeting Friday, consists of
Julie Boeheim, Lori Fine, Eric Devandorf and Derrick Coleman. Outcome obvious!
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Cuse up 12 with ten minutes to go.
Southerland will likely be back for SJU game. His SU Review Board, meeting Friday, consists of
Julie Boeheim, Lori Fine, Eric Devandorf and Derrick Coleman. Outcome obvious!
It doesn't matter. They'll beat us w out him. SU plays too fast for us. Our defense would have to be better than ever.
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Cuse by 16, gives ND loss #4 in BE. SU's Grant is quite a player.
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Sounds like Cosby not coming back;
Kevin Willard on Aaron Cosby before the game: "Taking care of some family matters in Louisville ... It's really unknown when he'll be back---if he'll be back."
“@SOrangeJuice: Quotes & Notes: Pittsburgh vs. Seton Hall, February 4th, 2013 #shbb http://t.co/BEhf8KSS (http://t.co/BEhf8KSS)”
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“@VUhoopsLive: HALFTIME: Villanova 40, DePaul 40”
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“@JonRothstein: Villanova now 5-5 in the Big East after 94-71 win at Depaul. Cats may not make NCAAs, but Jay Wright is getting the most out of this group.”
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Convincing win. What are those?
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Easy money, Villanova was only giving 3 pts :up:
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Easy money, Villanova was only giving 3 pts :up:
Winner winner chicken dinner
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When do you think the last time St. Johns and Providence won on the same night?
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I'm not a fan of Cooley, but he is keeping program headed in right direction. Telling Sidiki to buy in or get out seems to deserve kudos IMO..
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Mash Unit;
“@NJHoopsHaven: Kevin Willard said Fuquan Edwin is "out" for Sunday's game right now, unless he responds well to treatment tomorrow.”
“@AdamZagoria: Willard says Brian Oliver won't practice again this year but can play games. "We'll see how he can go from game to game." #shbb”
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6. St. John’s. The Red Storm don’t make it easy, but they make it entertaining. Steve Lavin’s young crew has won six of its past seven, putting it at least in the bubble conversation. This week, though, will be perhaps the most telling of all for St. John’s when it faces a treacherous one-two punch, at Syracuse on Sunday and at Louisville on Thursday.
“@eamonnbrennan: Conference Power Rankings: Big East http://t.co/hYKLAb9W (http://t.co/hYKLAb9W)”
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Rutgers playing well v. GT, tied at half.
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Rutgers playing well v. GT, tied at half.
A Rutgers win would help us big time. We won't jump ahead of G'town for an NCAA bid but it helps us with our standing in the Big East. The higher we finish, the better our chances of a bid.
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BTW, Rutgers has been doing well down low. Lubick picked up two fouls early. Johnson and Judge playing physical.
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Mike Rice is the kid who threw tantrums when his pee wee team lost. JTIII is the kid that hit the buzzer beater and calmly walked off the court.
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
Yeah, that was amazing.
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Rutgers hanging in there. Mike Poole can play on my team anytime!
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
Yeah, that was amazing.
Wisconsin with three fouls to give allowed Hardaway a three with time running out on shooting clock.. Hit it, but Wisconsin hits a desperation 3 to tie. Love college basketball!
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Rutgers hanging in there. Mike Poole can play on my team anytime!
Agree. NYC kid that I wish we had.
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BTW, Nate Lubick fouled out for GT with zero points. Crazy game, against us he looked like Larry Bird. Well sorta! Ha!
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
B10 has what 4 teams in Top 10 this year?
Crazy good this year.
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GT over Rutgers by 6. Tough loss, really out muscled GT.
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GT over Rutgers by 6. Tough loss, really out muscled GT.
Gtown is good but not as good as they have looked against us.
Just a really bad personnel matchup for us.
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
B10 has what 4 teams in Top 10 this year?
Crazy good this year.
IMO, clearly best league. Indy and Michigan could win it all, great guard play and well coached. OSU not shabby either.
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“@NJHoopsHaven: Otto Porter: 19 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 turnover. Scored 10 straight in crunch time. Tremendous game from a superb player.”
Porter to me is best player in BE. Consider he plays in such a structured, low scoring system. IMO, he will be a solid NBA player and get more open court opportunities over time.
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
B10 has what 4 teams in Top 10 this year?
Crazy good this year.
IMO, clearly best league. Indy and Michigan could win it all, great guard play and well coached. OSU not shabby either.
People forget Mich St chugging along with 4 losses quietly. Still have 2 games vs. MICH on their schedule.
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
B10 has what 4 teams in Top 10 this year?
Crazy good this year.
IMO, clearly best league. Indy and Michigan could win it all, great guard play and well coached. OSU not shabby either.
People forget Mich St chugging along with 4 losses quietly. Still have 2 games vs. MICH on their schedule.
Yeah, didn't think of them. Boy is Rutgers in for a " day in the park" when they join that league.
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
B10 has what 4 teams in Top 10 this year?
Crazy good this year.
IMO, clearly best league. Indy and Michigan could win it all, great guard play and well coached. OSU not shabby either.
People forget Mich St chugging along with 4 losses quietly. Still have 2 games vs. MICH on their schedule.
One of those losses at the hand of Uconn.
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
B10 has what 4 teams in Top 10 this year?
Crazy good this year.
IMO, clearly best league. Indy and Michigan could win it all, great guard play and well coached. OSU not shabby either.
People forget Mich St chugging along with 4 losses quietly. Still have 2 games vs. MICH on their schedule.
One of those losses at the hand of Uconn.
First game of the year. In Germany. I'll ignore it.
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
B10 has what 4 teams in Top 10 this year?
Crazy good this year.
IMO, clearly best league. Indy and Michigan could win it all, great guard play and well coached. OSU not shabby either.
People forget Mich St chugging along with 4 losses quietly. Still have 2 games vs. MICH on their schedule.
One of those losses at the hand of Uconn.
First game of the year. In Germany. I'll ignore it.
As they say in baseball-a game in April is just as important as a game in September. Dogging you Moose. Cabin fever with all this snow. :)
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Why is Cinci ranked #17 when they are 6-4 and in the bottom half of the Big East?
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Pitt has Cincy in trouble. Cronin looking a bit like "Benjamin Button" now.
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Cinci shitting the bed.
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Pitt has Cincy in trouble. Cronin looking a bit like "Benjamin Button" now.
Who dressed Cronin today?
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Pitt has Cincy in trouble. Cronin looking a bit like "Benjamin Button" now.
Who dressed Cronin today?
The other night on "blackout night" he looked like a pedophilic priest.
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Get a room Seth!
“@SethDavisHoops: Mick Cronin going with no-tie, open-collar, pocket-square look tonight. Very dashing--and comfortable. #winning”
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Get a room Seth!
“@SethDavisHoops: Mick Cronin going with no-tie, open-collar, pocket-square look tonight. Very dashing--and comfortable. #winning”
You can play chess or checkers on his sports coat.
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“@CBSSports: No. 23 Pittsburgh beats No. 17 Cincinnati 62-52 for 20th win of season - http://cbsprt.co/PITCIN0209 (http://cbsprt.co/PITCIN0209)”
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Pitt has Cincy in trouble. Cronin looking a bit like "Benjamin Button" now.
Who dressed Cronin today?
He looked rather dapper.
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Pitt has Cincy in trouble. Cronin looking a bit like "Benjamin Button" now.
Who dressed Cronin today?
The other night on "blackout night" he looked like a pedophilic priest.
I can't stop laughing.
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If Nova can beat Cinci Tuesday, it's possible Cinci loses it's next 5 to have an 8 game losing streak!!
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Cincy is solid, but I think Pitt is a bit underrated at this point. They have one bad loss, and Rutgers always seems to knock off at least one ranked team at the RAC every year. I don't recall whether the Michigan game was tight the whole way, but they only lost by a few at a neutral site. Other losses are Cincy, Marquette and Louisville, all good teams and all games were close, I believe. And a number of good wins.
They go ten deep and have a number of juniors and seniors who are key contributors.
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5th ot for nd lville
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5th ot for nd lville
Grant & Sherman 19 & 17
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crazy five overtime. notre dame just doesnt lose at home.
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That game was awesome. Don't know who I really wanted to win though.
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What a crazy game!
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Good result tonight since the Johnnies beat the Irish so we need that win to have all the more importance.
That and we get a now disheartened Louisville team in 5 days that might be drained and really letdown. Its a home game for the Cardinal though.
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Not Big East, but did anyone just see the end of Wisco/ Mich? Holy Crap
B10 has what 4 teams in Top 10 this year?
Crazy good this year.
IMO, clearly best league. Indy and Michigan could win it all, great guard play and well coached. OSU not shabby either.
Disagree with best league tag. Looking at Yukons win over Michigan State and Marquettes solid win over Wisconsin and Georgetowns near upset of then Number 1 Indy and I think they are the most hyped league by the press but not the best. BE top to 3/4 of the way down is far more competitive.
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“@SOrangeJuice: Seton Hall F Brandon Mobley and G/F Brian Oliver are both out against UConn per @JPGuerette. #shbb”
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Watching the Seton Hall/UCONN game. They are having a lot of success playing man against UCONN -- guess we couldn't because of the size differential.
Edwin is a real good player. Anyone know if he was a big recruit?
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Watching the Seton Hall/UCONN game. They are having a lot of success playing man against UCONN -- guess we couldn't because of the size differential.
Edwin is a real good player. Anyone know if he was a big recruit?
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/44579/fuquan-edwin (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/44579/fuquan-edwin)
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Thanks. I bet you a number of Big East schools wish they would have offered him.
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“@NeillOstrout: Enosch Wolf arrested, suspended from #UConn basketball team.”
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“@NeillOstrout: Enosch Wolf arrested, suspended from #UConn basketball team.”
He should have been arrested last Wednesday for throwing his elbows around like Macho Man Randy Savage.
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http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2013/02/11/wolf-suspended-from-uconn-mens-basketball-team/ (http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2013/02/11/wolf-suspended-from-uconn-mens-basketball-team/)
Missing cafeteria bratwurst?
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The UConn center was arrested at 5:55 a.m. Monday morning at the La Flesche Building on the Storrs campus (Hilltop apartments). He was charged with third-degree burglary, criminal trespass and disorderly conduct.
He was released on a $500 non-surety bond and is due in court Wednesday.
According to police Wolf was “found to be responsible in a verbal and physical dispute with another individual.”
Also, he supposedly “remained in an apartment after being asked to leave several times by a resident.”
“@NeillOstrout: #UConn C Enosch Wolf arrested. A few details. http://j.mp/Y5d56p (http://j.mp/Y5d56p)”
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Marquette road losses continue. Interesting article;
“@PaintTouches: New to PT: Things have gone from bad to worse for Marquette on the road, and it's leaving major question marks: http://painttouches.com/2013/02/12/road-woes-leave-major-question-marks/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/02/12/road-woes-leave-major-question-marks/) … #mubb”
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“@NeillOstrout: Ollie on Phil Nolan stepping up: “He’s going to have to. There’s no more waiting, no more seeing. He’s going to learn through experience."”
“@AmoreCourant: Donny Marshall was at practice, working some one on one with Phil Nolan for #UConnmen. Nolan will have to take some of wolf minutes.” Cuse game!
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“@Jim Dewars: Jim Calhoun on Wolf " it's a big misunderstanding. He couldnt leave the apartment because of all the snow "
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Great job by Jacobs pressuring UConn to do the right thing on Wolf matter;
http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men/hc-jacobs-column-0213-20130213,0,6152235.column (http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-men/hc-jacobs-column-0213-20130213,0,6152235.column)
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Hoya blog guy has a crazy sense of humor;
“@CasualHoya: Syracuse v. UConn tonight in the Hide Your Women and Laptops Championship.”
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“@NeillOstrout: Boatright beats the halftime buzzer. It's 29-24 #UConn at the break.”
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
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DP and ND tied in ot and I can't find game.
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Napier's and Boatwright's ability to penetrate the zone won the game. And UCONN played man versus Cuse, who had a terrible shooting night.
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By the way, UCONN sent plenty of screens at the top of the key tonight. Difference is that Boatwright and Napier could turn the corner.
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And DePaul has taken ND to OT
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
Poison states the obvious
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
I will be happy when we return to the form we were in before Lou retired. Until then, I'm going to be pretty angry, mainly because I see fans ripping on SU, Uconn and Pitt, and directing nothing at our greatest enemy. St.John's.
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
Poison states the obvious
You sure seem to be a fan also ::)
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
I will be happy when we return to the form we were in before Lou retired. Until then, I'm going to be pretty angry, mainly because I see fans ripping on SU, Uconn and Pitt, and directing nothing at our greatest enemy. St.John's.
Do you even remember the Lou years?
He retired 21 years ago
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
I will be happy when we return to the form we were in before Lou retired. Until then, I'm going to be pretty angry, mainly because I see fans ripping on SU, Uconn and Pitt, and directing nothing at our greatest enemy. St.John's.
Do you even remember the Lou years?
He retired 21 years ago
Yes, I remember the Lou years. A better question is does Lou remember them?
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We were playing a far superior program, with almost ZERO chance of beating them. We needed all stars to align in order to have a chance. We had 3 things go against us as we approached the game. Call them excuses if you want, but the fact is, they were contributing factors to turning the game into a blowout.
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We were playing a far superior program, with almost ZERO chance of beating them. We needed all stars to align in order to have a chance. We had 3 things go against us as we approached the game. Call them excuses if you want, but the fact is, they were contributing factors to turning the game into a blowout.
All true. Happens every time we play them. At some point though, it isn't bad luck anymore. It's who we are.
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Boheim calls Katz an idiot and disloyal. Katz basically said its an issue that kids keep having second semester eligibility issues. Said that the southernland issue surrounding 2 paragraphs in a paper he wrote. He wasn't happy that Katz mentioned the specific issue aloud. Basically Katz spoke the truth and boheim didn't like it.
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
I will be happy when we return to the form we were in before Lou retired. Until then, I'm going to be pretty angry, mainly because I see fans ripping on SU, Uconn and Pitt, and directing nothing at our greatest enemy. St.John's.
You have no clue what you are talking about. Not every team has an equivalent back up to their starting point guard. Where do you get this information from? So Louisville has a back up to Siva? Who? Their backup to Siva is to move Russ Smith over to point and bring someone off the bench. There is no one of Siva's ability though to bring off the bench. You merely have to move the parts around. But Louisville is significantly weaker if they do that. So SJU does the same thing moving Harrison or Greene over but they are WEAKER for doing this.
Syracuse won because they ARE BETTER then SJU right now especially at home.
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Boheim calls Katz an idiot and disloyal. Katz basically said its an issue that kids keep having second semester eligibility issues. Said that the southernland issue surrounding 2 paragraphs in a paper he wrote. He wasn't happy that Katz mentioned the specific issue aloud. Basically Katz spoke the truth and boheim didn't like it.
Bingo. And Boeheim ain't Mr. Personality.
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Boheim calls Katz an idiot and disloyal. Katz basically said its an issue that kids keep having second semester eligibility issues. Said that the southernland issue surrounding 2 paragraphs in a paper he wrote. He wasn't happy that Katz mentioned the specific issue aloud. Basically Katz spoke the truth and boheim didn't like it.
Bingo. And Boeheim ain't Mr. Personality.
Boeheim is being a baby. And actually Boeheim is very funny but on this one he is being a baby. I mean "disloyal?" I didn't know Katz had an obligation to be loyal to Syracuse as a reporter for ESPN. And it might run deeper then just the Southerland issue. I don't think Boeheim liked the way Katz covered the Bernie Fine story either. Here is the clip:
http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf/2013/02/syracuse_basketball_vs_connect.html#incart_special-report (http://www.syracuse.com/axeman/index.ssf/2013/02/syracuse_basketball_vs_connect.html#incart_special-report)
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
I will be happy when we return to the form we were in before Lou retired. Until then, I'm going to be pretty angry, mainly because I see fans ripping on SU, Uconn and Pitt, and directing nothing at our greatest enemy. St.John's.
You have no clue what you are talking about. Not every team has an equivalent back up to their starting point guard. Where do you get this information from? So Louisville has a back up to Siva? Who? Their backup to Siva is to move Russ Smith over to point and bring someone off the bench. There is no one of Siva's ability though to bring off the bench. You merely have to move the parts around. But Louisville is significantly weaker if they do that. So SJU does the same thing moving Harrison or Greene over but they are WEAKER for doing this.
Syracuse won because they ARE BETTER then SJU right now especially at home.
I think you have a reading comprehension problem. Where did I say that we needed to have a back up point that was as good as Branch? We have no back up.
And no, not every team has an equivalent point guard to their starter. You're responding to yourself there. I am well of that. I'm also aware that Iona, Rutgers, Uconn and Providence have two guys that can play the point. We should as well.
If you don't agree w the importance of the point guard position, I think your understanding of the game is pretty questionable.
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
I will be happy when we return to the form we were in before Lou retired. Until then, I'm going to be pretty angry, mainly because I see fans ripping on SU, Uconn and Pitt, and directing nothing at our greatest enemy. St.John's.
You have no clue what you are talking about. Not every team has an equivalent back up to their starting point guard. Where do you get this information from? So Louisville has a back up to Siva? Who? Their backup to Siva is to move Russ Smith over to point and bring someone off the bench. There is no one of Siva's ability though to bring off the bench. You merely have to move the parts around. But Louisville is significantly weaker if they do that. So SJU does the same thing moving Harrison or Greene over but they are WEAKER for doing this.
Syracuse won because they ARE BETTER then SJU right now especially at home.
I think you have a reading comprehension problem. Where did I say that we needed to have a back up point that was as good as Branch? We have no back up.
And no, not every team has an equivalent point guard to their starter. You're responding to yourself there. I am well of that. I'm also aware that Iona, Rutgers, Uconn and Providence have two guys that can play the point. We should as well.
If you don't agree w the importance of the point guard position, I think your understanding of the game is pretty questionable.
You implied it by saying "everyone" has a backup.
No they don't. Obviously one way or another EVERYONE will make up for injuries because no one forfeits games but that hardly is a "backup."
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A horrible uconn team beating cus 65-57 with a minute left. Love it. Uconn playing spoiler. I hate both these schools, but uconn isn't going anywhere. We shouldn't have lost as bad as we did to Cuse.
Agree on all points---although my dislike of Uconn comes nowhere close to my HATRED for Cuse.
As far as our game, the passing of Coach's dad, Branch being out and Southerland's timely (for them) return, all served to make it a blowout.
We always have great excuses for getting our ass kicked. At least we're consistent somewhere. Uconn had a plan for their game tonight. We had no plan on Sunday.
We have no freaking luck. No excuses here but if we had Branch it would have made a difference. Not saying a win at the Dome but definitely not a 19 point loss.
Every other BE team has a back up point guard. We don't.
You seem to hate the program so much, why do you bother following ?
Honestly I have known you as a poster for years and you have never been happy
I will be happy when we return to the form we were in before Lou retired. Until then, I'm going to be pretty angry, mainly because I see fans ripping on SU, Uconn and Pitt, and directing nothing at our greatest enemy. St.John's.
You have no clue what you are talking about. Not every team has an equivalent back up to their starting point guard. Where do you get this information from? So Louisville has a back up to Siva? Who? Their backup to Siva is to move Russ Smith over to point and bring someone off the bench. There is no one of Siva's ability though to bring off the bench. You merely have to move the parts around. But Louisville is significantly weaker if they do that. So SJU does the same thing moving Harrison or Greene over but they are WEAKER for doing this.
Syracuse won because they ARE BETTER then SJU right now especially at home.
I think you have a reading comprehension problem. Where did I say that we needed to have a back up point that was as good as Branch? We have no back up.
And no, not every team has an equivalent point guard to their starter. You're responding to yourself there. I am well of that. I'm also aware that Iona, Rutgers, Uconn and Providence have two guys that can play the point. We should as well.
If you don't agree w the importance of the point guard position, I think your understanding of the game is pretty questionable.
You implied it by saying "everyone" has a backup.
No they don't. Obviously one way or another EVERYONE will make up for injuries because no one forfeits games but that hardly is a "backup."
We don't have a point guard playing the point guard position. We should. That is all. Enjoy your day.
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No one has a true bacl up these days at each position. Even Cuse this year has no true backup to MCW. It would be nice if Lavin had filled the "ark" with 2 players at each position but it hasn't happened. Phil Greene is the backup PG who doesn't turn the ball over. He doesn't run the position great but he is the secondary ball handler.
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No one has a true bacl up these days at each position. Even Cuse this year has no true backup to MCW. It would be nice if Lavin had filled the "ark" with 2 players at each position but it hasn't happened. Phil Greene is the backup PG who doesn't turn the ball over. He doesn't run the position great but he is the secondary ball handler.
SU has two great points. Triche and Williams are both great point guards. Two of the best in the country.
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No one has a true bacl up these days at each position. Even Cuse this year has no true backup to MCW. It would be nice if Lavin had filled the "ark" with 2 players at each position but it hasn't happened. Phil Greene is the backup PG who doesn't turn the ball over. He doesn't run the position great but he is the secondary ball handler.
SU has two great points. Triche and Williams are both great point guards. Two of the best in the country.
Triche is not a PG, he is a combo guard.
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No one has a true bacl up these days at each position. Even Cuse this year has no true backup to MCW. It would be nice if Lavin had filled the "ark" with 2 players at each position but it hasn't happened. Phil Greene is the backup PG who doesn't turn the ball over. He doesn't run the position great but he is the secondary ball handler.
You have to move the ball to beat a zone. We are going to be zoned to death now.
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No one has a true bacl up these days at each position. Even Cuse this year has no true backup to MCW. It would be nice if Lavin had filled the "ark" with 2 players at each position but it hasn't happened. Phil Greene is the backup PG who doesn't turn the ball over. He doesn't run the position great but he is the secondary ball handler.
SU has two great points. Triche and Williams are both great point guards. Two of the best in the country.
Triche is not a PG, he is a combo guard.
He has been running the point for 4 years. He plays both positions, but he certainly plays both well. I would love a 4 year guy like that on SJ. Williams didn't play in a game, they'd be fine w Triche. He is better than just about every guard in our conference. Maybe a small handful are better.
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8. St. John’s. A difficult week for the Red Storm. Head coach Steve Lavin left the team to say goodbye to his beloved father, Cap, just as St. John’s was set to face Syracuse and Louisville in back-to-back games. Losses aside, the future looks brighter for this young team.
“@eamonnbrennan: Conference Power Rankings: Big East http://es.pn/VlcbZg (http://es.pn/VlcbZg)”
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Boeheim vs Katz Round 2.
Boeheim explains why he is upset at Katz and why he will not talk to him again. Both men essentially agree on when/where the incident that has triggered Boeheim's anger occurred but they disagree STRONGLY over the details.
The incident occurred during the NIT Tourney in November of 2011 as the Fine story was ongoing. Boeheim agreed to do a sit down interview. He claims he made an agreement with Katz that he would not answer any questions regarding Fine. Katz claims NO WAY did he agree to that.
Boeheim also that he got mad because Katz repeatedly asked the questions even after he made it clear he would not answer them. Katz agrees he asked several times but felt that was the only way he could get him to address the issue.
Boeheim said that Katz's behavior was so unprofessional that the others in the room (Van Gundy, Breen etc.) walked out in disgust and the producer apologized. Katz says NO ONE walked out and that the Producer did NOT apologize but rather simply said to the effect, "Coach I am sorry if you disapprove of the questioning but I see nothing wrong with the questions." In other words the Producer did NOT apologize for Katz's behavior per se but just apologized for the fact that Boeheim was upset.
Katz admitted that Boeheim was very angry after the interview and has refused to talk to Katz since.
Boeheim's take:
http://www.syracuse.com/poliquin/index.ssf/2013/02/jim_boeheim_explains_what_led.html (http://www.syracuse.com/poliquin/index.ssf/2013/02/jim_boeheim_explains_what_led.html)
Katz's take:
http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2013/02/espns_andy_katz_says_he_never.html#incart_river (http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2013/02/espns_andy_katz_says_he_never.html#incart_river)
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Boeheim once handed a bag of cash to a guy Deshaun Williams beat the snot out of. He's got a lot to hide. Katz probably knows that.
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Anyone see the tweet yesterday, by Borzello( sp?) i think., where he predicts all the conference tourney finals?
He had Georgetown vs St. John's in the BE Final..
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Anyone see the tweet yesterday, by Borzello( sp?) i think., where he predicts all the conference tourney finals?
He had Georgetown vs St. John's in the BE Final..
That sounds perfectly reasonable, and not insane at all.
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No one thinks St. John's is as bad as actual St. John's fans....interesting dynamic. ::)
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No one thinks St. John's is as bad as actual St. John's fans....interesting dynamic. ::)
I thought my ex-wife sucked. The guy who she left me for thought she was great...until he married her. Lol.
Not sure where I was going with that but that's what popped into my head when I read that post.
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No one thinks St. John's is as bad as actual St. John's fans....interesting dynamic. ::)
Yea, people that haven't watched since Mullin was here think we're still good. I meet people like that all the time. They are also the same people who we would categorize as the casual fan. It's that fan's lack of interest that explains why we don't sell tickets.
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The superfan is always hyper-critical of their team, while the outside observer usually looks for positives.
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The superfan is always hyper-critical of their team, while the outside observer usually looks for positives.
We have super fans?
Ha
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The superfan is always hyper-critical of their team, while the outside observer usually looks for positives.
We have super fans?
Ha
Just one.... ;)
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So it's Danny Kannell (why?) and two guys who just "graduated" from the Connecticut School of Broadcasting--Online.
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GT over Cincy by 7 with 3 minutes left in first half. Cincy has a tough remaining schedule.
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GT over Cincy by 7 with 3 minutes left in first half. Cincy has a tough remaining schedule.
Georgetown is a solid team that I could see making a run deep into March. Felt this way before only to see them sent packing first weekend. I think this could be the year they make Final Four. Wide open tourney with no true dominant team. It should be awesome.
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GT over Cincy by 7 with 3 minutes left in first half. Cincy has a tough remaining schedule.
Georgetown is a solid team that I could see making a run deep into March. Felt this way before only to see them sent packing first weekend. I think this could be the year they make Final Four. Wide open tourney with no true dominant team. It should be awesome.
Agree GT playing super and getting contributions from many guys. Nice job by JT.
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They are a solid, well coached team but they are offensively challenged. If they run into a hot shooting team, they can be taken out early.
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GT was No.1 in ESPN Big East Power rankings yesterday before last night's win.
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Never thought I would say this, but I hope UConn runs the table. They could help us out by taking down Nova and Cincy (2x), in addition to boosting our RPI.
Also, that game @ Providence scares me the most of our 5 remaining regular season games...
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Batts may be the most improved guy in BE. Cooley has these guys playing well.
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Never thought I would say this, but I hope UConn runs the table. They could help us out by taking down Nova and Cincy (2x), in addition to boosting our RPI.
Also, that game @ Providence scares me the most of our 5 remaining regular season games...
Me too. 1 because its a game we can't lose. And 2 because they can shoot the 3
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PC putting it to ND
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Besides being solid team G'town has the luxury of a player like Porter who can really explode and help carry a team in the tourney. Kid is INCREDIBLE! :)
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The Friars haver it rolling right now. While I think it's great for our future league to see Providence have a resurgence, our game there is going to be extremely tough to win.
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Was hoping Nova would lose at UConn, but appears unlikely.
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Marquette is up 15 over Pitt at home. I would love to emulate their success in recent years. Without getting McD AA type kids regularly, they do an excellent job of integrating solid Juco kids, getting good size interior players and attracting athletic wings and heady guards. They reload and compete year after year. I hope we are on cusp of establishing like program consistency and not so vulnerable to the loss of star players like Moe and Jakarr. Just not feeling we are there yet. Hopefully that happens soon.
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On the flip side, Buzz Williams resembles a well dressed Portuguese flag today. What an outfit!
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On the flip side, Buzz Williams resembles a well dressed Portuguese flag today. What an outfit!
Bald is beautiful
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DePaul beats Rutgers by 6. Does Rice even make it to Big Ten? Eli Carter out with a tough looking knee injury. Wheels off!
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On the flip side, Buzz Williams resembles a well dressed Portuguese flag today. What an outfit!
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If you are a Providence fan, aren't you disappointed with how this year is playing out. Granted you are playing short-handed, so that should be factored in, but the 5 guys who play almost all your minutes (now that Sidiki is gone) consist of a senior, three juniors and a highly touted freshman. It isn't like they are a squad of freshman/sophomores playing most of the minutes ...
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If you are a Providence fan, aren't you disappointed with how this year is playing out. Granted you are playing short-handed, so that should be factored in, but the 5 guys who play almost all your minutes (now that Sidiki is gone) consist of a senior, three juniors and a highly touted freshman. It isn't like they are a squad of freshman/sophomores playing most of the minutes ...
Picked last preseason,currently 6-7. Pretty decent season giving expectations
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If you are a Providence fan, aren't you disappointed with how this year is playing out. Granted you are playing short-handed, so that should be factored in, but the 5 guys who play almost all your minutes (now that Sidiki is gone) consist of a senior, three juniors and a highly touted freshman. It isn't like they are a squad of freshman/sophomores playing most of the minutes ...
Picked last preseason,currently 6-7. Pretty decent season giving expectations
Cooley has made me eat some crow this year.
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Also if we are on the bubble, providence can't be far from it. Not bound at the least
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Triche is scoring tonight. Syracuse only up 4 pts vs. Setn Hall.
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Agree that they have exceeded expectations based upon the preseason poll. But it seems that people on this board though Council was one of the better guards in the Big East. With him (a senior), Dunn (top recruit), Cotton (who people seem to really like -- a junior) and two other good juniors, it seems that they are playing at least to what people here think.
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UPDATED: 12:52 a.m.
When it happened, the prospects didn't seem good for Eli Carter.
On the flight home, Rutgers hoped that the fall that its leading scorer took wasn't as bad as his reaction on the floor looked. Instead, it was worse.
Carter is done for the season.
The Scarlet Knights' sophomore guard fractured his right fibula on a foul in the opening minutes the second half of Saturday afternoon's loss at DePaul. He will be evaluated by an orthopedic specialist this week, according to a school release, but is not expected to need surgery.
"It's an unfortunate accident that will have an impact on our team of course," Rutgers head coach Mike Rice told The Star-Ledger late Saturday night. "But injuries are a part of the game in sports and somebody's going to have to step up and fulfill the void that we have now that Eli's gone. A big void."
“@BrendanPrunty: Spoke to Mike Rice about Eli Carter's injury. Updated story about to hit http://nj.com/rutgersbasketball. (http://nj.com/rutgersbasketball.)”
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If you are a Providence fan, aren't you disappointed with how this year is playing out. Granted you are playing short-handed, so that should be factored in, but the 5 guys who play almost all your minutes (now that Sidiki is gone) consist of a senior, three juniors and a highly touted freshman. It isn't like they are a squad of freshman/sophomores playing most of the minutes ...
Picked last preseason,currently 6-7. Pretty decent season giving expectations
Cooley has made me eat some crow this year.
As well as shurinaCheese? ;) :)
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If you are a Providence fan, aren't you disappointed with how this year is playing out. Granted you are playing short-handed, so that should be factored in, but the 5 guys who play almost all your minutes (now that Sidiki is gone) consist of a senior, three juniors and a highly touted freshman. It isn't like they are a squad of freshman/sophomores playing most of the minutes ...
Picked last preseason,currently 6-7. Pretty decent season giving expectations
Cooley has made me eat some crow this year.
As well as shurinaCheese? ;) :)
Once he learns to post more than once every 4 months and stop typing in CAPS he might get some respect.
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Ed only knows how to type in caps. It is why Jakar called him a clown, and he failed to land Obekpa and Sanchez.
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Ed only knows how to type in caps. It is why Jakar called him a clown, and he failed to land Obekpa and Sanchez.
Zinggggg
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Agree that they have exceeded expectations based upon the preseason poll. But it seems that people on this board though Council was one of the better guards in the Big East. With him (a senior), Dunn (top recruit), Cotton (who people seem to really like -- a junior) and two other good juniors, it seems that they are playing at least to what people here think.
Providence hasn't been good since God Shamgod was running the point.
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Ed only knows how to type in caps. It is why Jakar called him a clown, and he failed to land Obekpa and Sanchez.
Did anyone land Sanchez?
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Talk about a "zing" from your coach!
The Pirates have had to deal with several injuries this season. Forward Patrik Auda was lost after just five games with a broken bone in his foot. Swingman Brian Oliver also sat out the Syracuse game with what Willard called a "self-proclaimed" ankle injury. He is out indefinitely.
"It's one of those amazing injuries that when a game appears, it kind of goes away and feels really good, and when practice appears it really hurts," Willard said of Oliver's injury. "We do have the New England Journal of Medicine coming to study him, because they wanna know how that's possible. It's quite amazing."
“@JRbroadcaster: Willard comments priceless - Seton Hall's Mobley (shoulder) done for season http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8955988/seton-hall-pirates-brandon-mobley-shoulder-done-season (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8955988/seton-hall-pirates-brandon-mobley-shoulder-done-season)”
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Haha gotta love Willard. That's the rep Branch had coming in I was told
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Calhoun chose right school IMO, gets a lot of shots when teams concentrate on the other two star guards;
“@BigEastMBB: Georgetown F Otto Porter (18.5 ppg, 7.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. Connecticut G Omar Calhoun is Rookie of the Week.”
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Calhoun chose right school IMO, gets a lot of shots when teams concentrate on the other two star guards;
“@BigEastMBB: Georgetown F Otto Porter (18.5 ppg, 7.0 rpg) is the BIG EAST Player of the Week. Connecticut G Omar Calhoun is Rookie of the Week.”
Calhoun really earned that one. He's going to be a great 4 year player.
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Did anyone land Sanchez?
Pretty sure the school he signs with is the one that landed him. Whether or not he plays is a different matter.
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Did anyone land Sanchez?
Pretty sure the school he signs with is the one that landed him. Whether or not he plays is a different matter.
Knowing Sanchez will likely never play for SJU is obviously disappointing. What I find irksome is, after Lenn Robbins was fed that story about Sanchez getting eligible, the whole matter just died. Can't SJU just acknowledge the matter is over. If it is still pending, which I doubt, just say that. IMO, this whole matter has been handled poorly. Is Athletic Department just letting this issue die or sweeping it under carpet. Why the hell was that article written in the first place. Lenn did not just pluck that theory out of the blue. SJU leaked it. To what end?
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Sanchez v. NCAA?
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Did anyone land Sanchez?
Pretty sure the school he signs with is the one that landed him. Whether or not he plays is a different matter.
Knowing Sanchez will likely never play for SJU is obviously disappointing. What I find irksome is, after Lenn Robbins was fed that story about Sanchez getting eligible, the whole matter just died. Can't SJU just acknowledge the matter is over. If it is still pending, which I doubt, just say that. IMO, this whole matter has been handled poorly. Is Athletic Department just letting this issue die or sweeping it under carpet. Why the hell was that article written in the first place. Lenn did not just pluck that theory out of the blue. SJU leaked it. To what end?
So they can advertize before our first NIT game "St. John's is expecting the NCAA to rule Sanchez eligible for the NIT". :-[
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Any chance Notre Dame can fall completely out of this thing and not make the tournament? They are 8-5 and looked awful against Providence and haven't look good in the first half against Pitt. They play vs. Cincy, at Marquette, vs. St. John's and at Louisville. They could easily lose all of those games.
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Any chance Notre Dame can fall completely out of this thing and not make the tournament? They are 8-5 and looked awful against Providence and haven't look good in the first half against Pitt. They play vs. Cincy, at Marquette, vs. St. John's and at Louisville. They could easily lose all of those games.
I was just thinking the same. But we would probably rather ND win those games, except against us obviously. That way it looks better if we have 2 W's vs. them. And that first half between Pitt and ND showed how beatable both teams are.
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Any chance Notre Dame can fall completely out of this thing and not make the tournament? They are 8-5 and looked awful against Providence and haven't look good in the first half against Pitt. They play vs. Cincy, at Marquette, vs. St. John's and at Louisville. They could easily lose all of those games.
I think those 3 to games over a 4 game stretch wore the down. I don't think the are a deep team.
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Any chance Notre Dame can fall completely out of this thing and not make the tournament? They are 8-5 and looked awful against Providence and haven't look good in the first half against Pitt. They play vs. Cincy, at Marquette, vs. St. John's and at Louisville. They could easily lose all of those games.
Notre Dame seems to do the same thing every year by starting off hot, and then hitting a wall. If they happen to make the tournament they'll lose in the first round.
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Pitt loses two straight. Sixth BE loss! Sunday should be a low scoring physical game.
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Pitt loses two straight. Sixth BE loss! Sunday should be a low scoring physical game.
ND was down 19-3 with 6 mins left in the 1st half of that game.
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Brey forced action at that point to get a tech. Strangely, the entire game turned around after that. BTW, root for Rutgers v. Nova tonight.
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Pitt loses two straight. Sixth BE loss! Sunday should be a low scoring physical game.
There is hope, but we need to rebound.
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Go rutgers! Tough without Carter, but still love to see em pull it off...
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Pitt loses two straight. Sixth BE loss! Sunday should be a low scoring physical game.
Let's get the one on Wednesday first.
But Sunday's game is going to be a War.
BTW Don't tell Marillac but Mike Brey can coach.
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Pitt loses two straight. Sixth BE loss! Sunday should be a low scoring physical game.
Let's get the one on Wednesday first.
But Sunday's game is going to be a War.
BTW Don't tell Marillac but Mike Brey can coach.
Who am I kidding, Nova in double bonus 8 minutes in. Not sure why the refs treat Nova like they are Duke, but rutgers is getting the same referring treatment we got. And guess who it is? Arcidiacono again with a phantom call.
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Go rutgers! Tough without Carter, but still love to see em pull it off...
Man, thought it was maddening watching our team play. Try rooting for Rutgers... No wonder Mike Rice is a psycho
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Can't and won't cheer against a c-7 school.
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Can't and won't cheer against a c-7 school.
Guess you don't want us to dance then... We still play in the BE. Nova is our direct competition on the bubble. A Rutgers win here would be helpful
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Can't and won't cheer against a c-7 school.
Guess you don't want us to dance then... We still play in the BE. Nova is our direct competition on the bubble. A Rutgers win here would be helpful
+1. It's us vs nova now. Time to cheer for nova when our direct future doesn't hang in the balance. Btw, Mack has scored 12 straight despite the refs best efforts to screw rutgers, and RU leads 24-15. Unfortunately just about everybody on the Rutgers team is in foul trouble with Nova getting every call going their way.
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Let's take care of business against USF before we meet a pissed off Pitt team that will be looking for blood.
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Can't and won't cheer against a c-7 school.
Why?
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Rutgers 31-21 at half time
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Nova not missing much right now. Nova Up 1. 6 left
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Nova not missing much right now. Nova Up 1. 6 left
I got a feeling that Ryan Archa-pimpleface of Nova is going to give us fits for the next 4 years. Could see him having some BET/C7 Tourney moments
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Arch. is good, annoying and gets every foul call possible.
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No help from Rutgers. Really bothers me we lost at MSG to them.
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Mike Rice on the hot seat?
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Mike Rice on the hot seat?
think hell get 1 more.
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Mike Rice on the hot seat?
think hell get 1 more.
Yea. He will never see the move though
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Mike Rice on the hot seat?
think hell get 1 more.
Yea. He will never see the move though
Rutgers could have a good year next year. Think this time off for carter will do wonders for both Myles Mack and rutgers heading into next year.
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This pays for a lot of term papers and fines for wayward players;
“@PSBasketball: It's official: Syracuse and Georgetown on Saturday is a sell-out. The final number: A record-busting 35,012: http://ow.ly/hRAdT (http://ow.ly/hRAdT)”
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Seton Hall is Seton Halling.
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Seton Hall is Seton Halling.
in historic proportions.
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Seton Hall is Seton Halling.
in historic proportions.
3,500 at game last night. It appears Coach W. is really on edge. Can't blame him with injuries, but I just don't see him having recruiting capability to turn program around.
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“@HoyaHoopClub: GUHoyas: Georgetown Begins Next Phase for Intercollegiate Athletics Center http://www.guhoyas.com/genrel/022013aaa.html (http://www.guhoyas.com/genrel/022013aaa.html)”
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Pulling for UConn, would love to see Cincy implode;
Best game: Cincinnati at Connecticut (7 p.m., ESPN). Connecticut hasn't been getting the attention it deserves this season, primarily because it can't make the NCAA tournament. But the Huskies would be a sure-fire at-large team if they were eligible, and therefore would be a nice win for Cincinnati on Thursday. Surprisingly, the Bearcats are in 10th place in the Big East, and need to finish strong. After Thursday, they still have to go to Notre Dame and Louisville, and host the Huskies next weekend. Sean Kilpatrick and Cashmere Wright need to find consistency in their jumpers.
“@jeffborzello: No marquee games tonight, but a bunch of games with at-large implications: Cincy/UConn, Oregon/Cal, La Salle/Temple: http://cbsprt.co/ZujVcD (http://cbsprt.co/ZujVcD)”
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Right now they have a record of 19-7 & 7-6 in the big east with a RPI of 42, SOS of 31. They have 2 games against UCONN, @Notre Dame, @ Louisville & USF. With some luck maybe there is a chance they can fall into the bubble
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Right now they have a record of 19-7 & 7-6 in the big east with a RPI of 42, SOS of 31. They have 2 games against UCONN, @Notre Dame, @ Louisville & USF. With some luck maybe there is a chance they can fall into the bubble
exactly
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They are a solid, well coached team but they are offensively challenged. If they run into a hot shooting team, they can be taken out early.
They haven't scored 70 against a good team since November. Can't win the tourney like that. Probably can't get to the second weekend. Also great BE defense often becomes foul trouble in the dance. Need the scoring to balance that out.
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“@NeillOstrout: #UConn 37, Cincinnati 34 at the half. Napier with 11 for Huskies. Wright 10 for Bearcats.”
I think Cincy is wearing UConn down however.
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“@NeillOstrout: #UConn 37, Cincinnati 34 at the half. Napier with 11 for Huskies. Wright 10 for Bearcats.”
I think Cincy is wearing UConn down however.
Your not a fan of weaveare you? Cincy offense make STJ's look good
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Bearcats blew a big chance tonight. A lot of one on one crap and chucking. They remind me of a Jarvis team.
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I think Cincy is still OK because their non-conference is good. Wins over Iowa St, Oregon and Xavier really help. But this is a bad stretch from them. 4 losses in 5 games.
9-9 should be enough to get them in. Kind of reminds me of UCONN 2 years ago. Remember before their post season run UCONN was 9-9 in the regular season.
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I'm not sure Fordham. They are .500 now in Big East play and with their schedule and the way they are playing they could conceivably fall below SJU and Nova depending on how both teams play down the stretch. If they crap the bed late in big east season, I'm not sure some decent OOC wins early in the year will save them. NCAA awards teams that perform down the stretch.
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Cinci needs to finish horribly to not make it. They have a lot of strong wins. Do they have it in them? Let's hope so.
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I'm not sure Fordham. They are .500 now in Big East play and with their schedule and the way they are playing they could conceivably fall below SJU and Nova depending on how both teams play down the stretch. If they crap the bed late in big east season, I'm not sure some decent OOC wins early in the year will save them. NCAA awards teams that perform down the stretch.
They have USF at home, win. Steal one other.
UCONN went 8-10 last year and made it.
And not sure why you are rooting so hard against Cincy, the stronger they are the stronger SJU's road win over them looks.
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As for collapses go look at Nova's finish 2 years ago.
They were 9-5 in the Big East. Proceeded to lose 5 straight to end the season. Lost 4 straight to end the regular season and then lost to a horrible S Florida team in the first round of the BE Tournament. Made the NCAA's as a 9 seed, in other words they weren't even a bubble team made it with ease....
Then proceeded to lose to George Mason in the 1st round to lose 6 straight to end the season.
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I suppose you're right. They have the quantity/quality wins. They just have had a real rough stretch.
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As for collapses go look at Nova's finish 2 years ago.
They were 9-5 in the Big East. Proceeded to lose 5 straight to end the season. Lost 4 straight to end the regular season and then lost to a horrible S Florida team in the first round of the BE Tournament. Made the NCAA's as a 9 seed, in other words they weren't even a bubble team made it with ease....
Then proceeded to lose to George Mason in the 1st round to lose 6 straight to end the season.
If they lost 3 of their last 4 And then lost their first game in the bigeast tourny. They would have to to be somewhat nervous on selsecation Sunday. It's not out of question.
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I would love to achieve the continuity achieved at Marquette. nice article;
“@SN_Reeves: Rite of spring: Rebuilt Marquette again surprises in Big East, ready to go dancing http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing)”
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I would love to achieve the continuity achieved at Marquette. nice article;
“@SN_Reeves: Rite of spring: Rebuilt Marquette again surprises in Big East, ready to go dancing http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing)”
Marquette doesn't rebuild, they just reload
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I would love to achieve the continuity achieved at Marquette. nice article;
“@SN_Reeves: Rite of spring: Rebuilt Marquette again surprises in Big East, ready to go dancing http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing)”
Marquette doesn't rebuild, they just reload
I would love to see Marq beat Nova today.
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I would love to achieve the continuity achieved at Marquette. nice article;
“@SN_Reeves: Rite of spring: Rebuilt Marquette again surprises in Big East, ready to go dancing http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing)”
Marquette doesn't rebuild, they just reload
They reload into a pretty good team every year that will probably win one tournament game per year.
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I would love to achieve the continuity achieved at Marquette. nice article;
“@SN_Reeves: Rite of spring: Rebuilt Marquette again surprises in Big East, ready to go dancing http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing)”
Marquette doesn't rebuild, they just reload
They reload into a pretty good team every year that will probably win one tournament game per year.
They kind of do what St Johns did for years under Coach C
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I would love to achieve the continuity achieved at Marquette. nice article;
“@SN_Reeves: Rite of spring: Rebuilt Marquette again surprises in Big East, ready to go dancing http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-02-21/rite-of-spring-rebuilt-marquette-again-surprises-in-big-east-ready-to-go-dancing)”
Marquette doesn't rebuild, they just reload
They reload into a pretty good team every year that will probably win one tournament game per year.
They kind of do what St Johns did for years under Coach C
that is a good comp
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Wondering
They keep showing the standings on CBS during the Orange Idiots vs. Gtown game. They show the top 8 schools. We are also 8-6 in conference but they don't show us.
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Wondering
They keep showing the standings on CBS during the Orange Idiots vs. Gtown game. They show the top 8 schools. We are also 8-6 in conference but they don't show us.
Its because Nova has a better all around record
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Wondering
They keep showing the standings on CBS during the Orange Idiots vs. Gtown game. They show the top 8 schools. We are also 8-6 in conference but they don't show us.
Its because Nova has a better all around record
Its sorted by BE standings though, not overall.
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Wondering
They keep showing the standings on CBS during the Orange Idiots vs. Gtown game. They show the top 8 schools. We are also 8-6 in conference but they don't show us.
Its because Nova has a better all around record
Its sorted by BE standings though, not overall.
I think they just use it as a tie-braker since both teams are 8-6 in league play
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Wondering
They keep showing the standings on CBS during the Orange Idiots vs. Gtown game. They show the top 8 schools. We are also 8-6 in conference but they don't show us.
Part of the worldwide conspiracy against St. John's! ;)
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Wondering
They keep showing the standings on CBS during the Orange Idiots vs. Gtown game. They show the top 8 schools. We are also 8-6 in conference but they don't show us.
Part of the worldwide conspiracy against St. John's! ;)
Wouldn't doubt it
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Good job by Gtown
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Need Marquette to beat down Nova.
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Archipoddamus should have went to Duke. He 'never' commits fouls. The look on his face when he gets called is priceless.
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He is going to be a thorn in our side the next few years. At least Lubick, one of our other annoying thorns, will be gone after next year.
Otto Porter put his stamp on BE player of the year today? Has a lot less offensive talent than the other candidates IMO, and does everything on the floor.
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Archipoddamus should have went to Duke. He 'never' commits fouls. The look on his face when he gets called is priceless.
As annoying as Eric Devendorf.
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He is going to be a thorn in our side the next few years. At least Lubick, one of our other annoying thorns, will be gone after next year.
Otto Porter put his stamp on BE player of the year today? Has a lot less offensive talent than the other candidates IMO, and does everything on the floor.
Who are the other candidates? Russ smith? Triche?
Otto porter is the best player in the league hands Down IMO. It's a damn shame too because had moe of stayed porter would be the second best player in the league.
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Smith doesn't annoy me. Triche has for years. He is the most annoying -- more than Archdiowhatever and Lubick, although the latter has gained some steam.
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Smith doesn't annoy me. Triche has for years. He is the most annoying -- more than Archdiowhatever and Lubick, although the latter has gained some steam.
Triche made us his bitch for 4 years.
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Not happy with nova beating Marquette tonight. That said, we still need to just take care of our own business.
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Smith doesn't annoy me. Triche has for years. He is the most annoying -- more than Archdiowhatever and Lubick, although the latter has gained some steam.
Triche made us his bitch for 4 years.
His team perhaps. He was always the 3rd option.
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Smith doesn't annoy me. Triche has for years. He is the most annoying -- more than Archdiowhatever and Lubick, although the latter has gained some steam.
Triche made us his bitch for 4 years.
His team perhaps. He was always the 3rd option.
I don't agree. He plays within the team concept, but he was more than solid from day one.
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Not saying he isn't a very good college player Poison. Just that he annoyed the s*** out of me, partially because of how well he seemed to play against us.
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Smith doesn't annoy me. Triche has for years. He is the most annoying -- more than Archdiowhatever and Lubick, although the latter has gained some steam.
Triche made us his bitch for 4 years.
His team perhaps. He was always the 3rd option.
I don't agree. He plays within the team concept, but he was more than solid from day one.
I agree with that. Always was a solid player for them. I just never looked at him as a guy that defenses needed to focus on to stop Cuse. He played with some great players and had his share of open looks. He made the most of the opportunities.
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Nova pretty much locked up a bid IMO. Too many quality wins to keep them out. They got the job done....can we?
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Nova pretty much locked up a bid IMO. Too many quality wins to keep them out. They got the job done....can we?
they have the knack for spiraling too. take care of business and they ticket is punched. question is: can they do it?
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Ain't complaining about SJU;
“@AdamZagoria: Rutgers & Seton Hall are now a combined 6-24 in the Big East. SHU has lost 9 in a row & Rutgers has dropped 9 of 10.”
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“@GaryParrishCBS: Otto Porter should be a top three National POY candidate. I wrote about him yesterday from the Carrier Dome. -- http://cbsprt.co/XytelQ (http://cbsprt.co/XytelQ)”
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Cincy scores 41 today in loss to ND. Did Lavin and Cronin attend the same "Productive Offensive Basketball" Clinic?
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Cincy not really different than us IMO, except for the fact that they have more experienced players. They rely principally on two scorers -- Kilpatrick a very good one. When they get points from a third or fourth source, in addition to SK and CW, they are a different team. And when one or both of those guys struggle, they are going to have problems.
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Hope Buzz puts it to Cuse;
“@PaintTouches: [New to PT] #mubb-Syracuse preview: The winner is alive for a title hunt, the loser may not finish top-4. That's all: http://painttouches.com/2013/02/25/marquette-syracuse-preview-plenty-on-the-line-tonight/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/02/25/marquette-syracuse-preview-plenty-on-the-line-tonight/)”
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Marquette over Cuse. Buzz!! Gardner killed it with 26.
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Marquette over Cuse. Buzz!! Gardiner killed it with 26.
Marquette has a bunch of grown men. Really put it to Syracuse down low. Worried about them doing the same to us.
Lets hope The Hall gets one tonight against nova.
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Marquette over Cuse. Buzz!! Gardiner killed it with 26.
Marquette has a bunch of grown men. Really put it to Syracuse down low. Worried about them doing the same to us.
Lets hope The Hall gets one tonight against nova.
Saving grace in my mind is all 4 of their BE losses have been road games.
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Syracuse looks lost sometimes. Never against us though. MCW is erratic as heck. Triche isn't very good, despite Poison's claims to the contrary.
Marquette and Georgetown are the class of the BE at the moment. Porter should be unanimous BE POY. JT3 or Buzz for COY. Sampson ROY
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I hate Cuse too Boo but, come one, Triche can flat out play.
Gardener is going to be a handful for us, as will the quickness of Marquette's guards/wings at the top of that zone.
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Marquette draws a a ton of fouls, 35 FTAs tonight. Cuse, I believe,has lost 5 of last 9 and could be caught early in NCAA tourney.
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I hate Cuse too Boo but, come one, Triche can flat out play.
Gardener is going to be a handful for us, as will the quickness of Marquette's guards/wings at the top of that zone.
He has been a good 4 year player for them. He isn't, nor has he ever been, a player that opponents game plan against. He plays for a great program and has the benefit with playing with pros every year he's been there.
You think he plays at the next level? I don't. Too slow and not athletic enough.
So, I'll take back that he isn't very good. He's good, serviceable. He would start for us, that's for sure.
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Nova game;
“@SOrangeJuice: Pirates hit 8 long balls, but commit 9 turnovers, all tied at halftime 32-32. #shbb”
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Nova game;
“@SOrangeJuice: Pirates hit 8 long balls, but commit 9 turnovers, all tied at halftime 32-32. #shbb”
Could use a Pirate win for some seeding help in BET as well
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I think triche is great. I know dlo is a sophomore and is the number one option on our team and believe me I love him to death, but what can he do better than triche?
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I think triche is great. I know dlo is a sophomore and is the number one option on our team and believe me I love him to death, but what can he do better than triche?
Soph yr comparison
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche)
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I think triche is great. I know dlo is a sophomore and is the number one option on our team and believe me I love him to death, but what can he do better than triche?
Soph yr comparison
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche)
I mentioned dlo being a sophomore and agree his numbers as a soph are better, but right now what can dlo do that triche can't?
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I think triche is great. I know dlo is a sophomore and is the number one option on our team and believe me I love him to death, but what can he do better than triche?
Soph yr comparison
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche)
I mentioned dlo being a sophomore and agree his numbers as a soph are better, but right now what can dlo do that triche can't?
As the numbers at that time show not much. All the stats outside of PPG are pretty much in line. So me thinks same player. Dee still has time to improve but nobody knows. He will obliterate all of Triche's scoring if he stays as for if the rest improves? We'll see.
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Nova game;
“@SOrangeJuice: Pirates hit 8 long balls, but commit 9 turnovers, all tied at halftime 32-32. #shbb”
Could use a Pirate win for some seeding help in BET as well
FUUUUUUUUUUUQUAN
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Need a big stop from Hall here.
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SH with a steal & Fuquan 3 beats Nova by 1!
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Need a big stop from Hall here.
ARCHI-PIMPLEFACE MISSES!
That was a Reggie Miller-esque finish there by Fuquan and the Hall
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Big win by Seton Hall. Now let's take care of Providence this weekend.
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Whew nova was riding high there for a while. After that yarou corner jumper went in I thought for sure they were gonna win another. This will count as a bad loss I think.
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Great story on recruitment of Otule, a raw big who developed into a competent big over time.
“@PaintTouches: [PT FEATURE] Chris Otule's recruitment is as unique as it gets: http://painttouches.com/2013/02/26/in-buzz-he-trusts-chris-otule/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/02/26/in-buzz-he-trusts-chris-otule/) #mubb”
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Interesting to note that Gardner, Marquette beast and big, chose MU over Norfolk State. I look forward to the day when we can get a raw, but promising big guy and develop him. Looking past top 100 rated guys to get size is prudent sometimes, because bigs take longer to develop.
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Fans are fans, even when team is a top program, folks get antsy;
“@PSBasketball: Your comments: #Syracuse basketball loses to Marquette http://ow.ly/i43Wx (http://ow.ly/i43Wx)”
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I think triche is great. I know dlo is a sophomore and is the number one option on our team and believe me I love him to death, but what can he do better than triche?
Soph yr comparison
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche)
I mentioned dlo being a sophomore and agree his numbers as a soph are better, but right now what can dlo do that triche can't?
As the numbers at that time show not much. All the stats outside of PPG are pretty much in line. So me thinks same player. Dee still has time to improve but nobody knows. He will obliterate all of Triche's scoring if he stays as for if the rest improves? We'll see.
Tough to compare the numbers when Dlo has basically been our #1 option while Triche is surrounded by talent.
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I think triche is great. I know dlo is a sophomore and is the number one option on our team and believe me I love him to death, but what can he do better than triche?
Soph yr comparison
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=d-angelo-harrison&brandon-triche=2010-2011&p1=brandon-triche)
I mentioned dlo being a sophomore and agree his numbers as a soph are better, but right now what can dlo do that triche can't?
As the numbers at that time show not much. All the stats outside of PPG are pretty much in line. So me thinks same player. Dee still has time to improve but nobody knows. He will obliterate all of Triche's scoring if he stays as for if the rest improves? We'll see.
Tough to compare the numbers when Dlo has basically been our #1 option while Triche is surrounded by talent.
Isn't that what percentages are for? If anything the fact Dee takes more shots would improve his percentage if he had better talent around him, no?
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Wasn't making a judgment just pointing out that it is tough to compare players that are in different circumstances.
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I think triche is great. I know dlo is a sophomore and is the number one option on our team and believe me I love him to death, but what can he do better than triche?
Smile. Triche is a pretty ugly dude.
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I guess it is all about matchups, but UConn playing GT well in first half. Envious! Btw, Philip Nolan just scored on a nice spin play. He needs to bulk up, but has good skills.
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I guess it is all about matchups, but UConn playing GT well in first half. Envious! Btw, Philip Nolan just scored on a nice spin play. He needs to bulk up, but has good skills.
Georgetown having one of their offensively challenged stretches there in the 1st half. One hoop in 12 minutes? Wow.
If you have good/excellent guards, you always have a chance in college hoops. I mean guys that can create their own GOOD shots whenever they want, and get in the paint off the dribble in an one on one situation. Napier and Boatwright both have that ability, plus they are above average shooters imo.
We really need a guard like this with this group of athletic wings.... We need Rysheed.( he is like that guys, right? ) :)
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I guess it is all about matchups, but UConn playing GT well in first half. Envious! Btw, Philip Nolan just scored on a nice spin play. He needs to bulk up, but has good skills.
Georgetown having one of their offensively challenged stretches there in the 1st half. One hoop in 12 minutes? Wow.
If you have good/excellent guards, you always have a chance in college hoops. I mean guys that can create their own GOOD shots whenever they want, and get in the paint off the dribble in an one on one situation. Napier and Boatwright both have that ability, plus they are above average shooters imo.
We really need a guard like this with this group of athletic wings.... We need Rysheed.( he is like that guys, right? ) :)
Agree with that. Pitt up 1 v. USF in another "hard to watch" low scoring game. Too much grabbing and clutching in College hoops today, especially in BE.
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Calhoun w game tying 3 for UConn! OT
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GT 79 UConn 78 in double OT.
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crazy ending to the uconn game.
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I guess it is all about matchups, but UConn playing GT well in first half. Envious! Btw, Philip Nolan just scored on a nice spin play. He needs to bulk up, but has good skills.
But why is it when we play the good teams matchups never seem to favor us so we can pull the upset. Also why don't these teams have offensive lulls, bad shooting nights or sloppy play to allow us to spring the upset. 2 G'town games, Cuse, Ville, Pitt all double digit loses.
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Lousy HOF matchup;
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Louisville basketball to open with Hofstra, Hartford in November Hall of Fame Tip-Off Tournament (Carolina in it too) http://cjky.it/WifcKp (http://cjky.it/WifcKp)”
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“@PaintTouches: Per @NDmbb, Scott Martin will miss the rest of the season. Has missed the last nine, but obviously means he won't play Saturday vs. #mubb.”
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huge loss for nd.
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Maybe ncaa will give him a 9th yr of eligibility.
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Maybe ncaa will give him a 9th yr of eligibility.
Wasn't Anthony Mason here for 9 years?
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Believe it was 10, felt like 12. ;)
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Believe it was 10, felt like 12. ;)
Just long enough to get a documentary on MTV's True Life...
Mase was a great guy though. I was a freshman same time he was, lived in the same dorm as him. Always said hello to me. Too bad he didn't inherit his father's bulk..
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Cuse in Dome loses to L'Ville by 5. Cuse is trending down, will be early out in Tourney. Love it!
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Cuse in Dome loses to L'Ville by 5. Cuse is trending down, will be early out in Tourney. Love it!
Benehan, Siva and Blackshear had a combined 2 FGs
Unreal
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Cuse in Dome loses to L'Ville by 5. Cuse is trending down, will be early out in Tourney. Love it!
Benehan, Siva and Blackshear had a combined 2 FGs
Unreal
Can't remember triche having a worse game than he just had
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UConn up 5 at half without Napier at Cincy. Hope SJU can do likewise tonight without Harrison, but doubt it. BTW, Phil Nolan is showing some game. Looks like,with some additional weight & strength, he will be a good player. Cincy shoots worse than us, well maybe! Ha!
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“@PaintTouches: At half, Marquette leads 41-27. Otule with 10 to lead all scorers. Grant had 9 for ND, which shot 37 percent from the field. MU shoots 64%.”
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Buzz and boys tough at home. Great coaching job this year.
“@CBSSports: No. 22 Marquette holds off No. 21 Notre Dame 72-64 - http://cbsprt.co/NDMARQ0302 (http://cbsprt.co/NDMARQ0302)”
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“@NeillOstrout: Cincinnati 61, #UConn 56 the final. Huskies had chances and blew them but pretty good effort w/o Napier.”
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Nova at Pitt heading to OT. VU's Arciadiacono had great game so far. He scores, gets the ball to folks in right position and makes steals. Annoying player, who gets a ton of calls, but great for a Frosh. Envious!
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Nova at Pitt heading to OT. VU's Arciadiacono had great game so far. He scores, gets the ball to folks in right position and makes steals. Annoying player, who gets a ton of calls, but great for a Frosh. Envious!
any idea where he was ranked in high school ?
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Nova at Pitt heading to OT. VU's Arciadiacono had great game so far. He scores, gets the ball to folks in right position and makes steals. Annoying player, who gets a ton of calls, but great for a Frosh. Envious!
any idea where he was ranked in high school ?
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/93810/ryan-arcidiacono (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/93810/ryan-arcidiacono)
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Nova at Pitt heading to OT. VU's Arciadiacono had great game so far. He scores, gets the ball to folks in right position and makes steals. Annoying player, who gets a ton of calls, but great for a Frosh. Envious!
And He does it without extreme quickness or athleticism. Basketball know-how.
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Pitt over Nova by 9 in OT. Tough loss! Nova's last game is against GT. NCAA bubble time.
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“@PSBasketball: Will he stay at Louisville or go pro? RT @clbrown_cj: Morning tipoff: Gorgui's dilemma http://blogs.courier-journal.com/ulbeat/2013/03/05/morning-tipoff-should-he-stay-or-should-he-go/ (http://blogs.courier-journal.com/ulbeat/2013/03/05/morning-tipoff-should-he-stay-or-should-he-go/)”
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“@PSBasketball: Will he stay at Louisville or go pro? RT @clbrown_cj: Morning tipoff: Gorgui's dilemma http://blogs.courier-journal.com/ulbeat/2013/03/05/morning-tipoff-should-he-stay-or-should-he-go/ (http://blogs.courier-journal.com/ulbeat/2013/03/05/morning-tipoff-should-he-stay-or-should-he-go/)”
A kid who wants to be in school? Maybe get a degree. How unusual.
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Must have been D'Lo's fault;
“@CerasolisGhost: Per @StevvieV, Seton Hall freshman center Kevin Johnson has been suspended from the team; did not travel to Providence. #shbb”
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I'm hoping for a Hall win. Hopefully, this doesn't have too big an impact.
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Must have been D'Lo's fault;
“@CerasolisGhost: Per @StevvieV, Seton Hall freshman center Kevin Johnson has been suspended from the team; did not travel to Providence. #shbb”
Rumor on the seton hall board is that he ate one of the team managers.
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Rutgers fell apart down the stretch and Rice apparently did so as well. The pressures getting to him it seems.
“@BrendanPrunty: Here's my updated RU-Marquette game story featuring an emotionally gutted Mike Rice and RU locker room: http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2013/03/rutgers_marquette_big_east_bas.html#incart_river (http://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketball/index.ssf/2013/03/rutgers_marquette_big_east_bas.html#incart_river)”
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Does Providence make the NCAA Tourney?
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Does Providence make the NCAA Tourney?
I think BE has 6 in
Lville, Cuse, Marquette, Gtown, ND, Pitt
Then 3 fighting for 1 I think-
Prov, Cincy, Nova
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Does Providence make the NCAA Tourney?
I think BE has 6 in
Lville, Cuse, Marquette, Gtown, ND, Pitt
Then 3 fighting for 1 I think-
Prov, Cincy, Nova
Agreed. If Nova beats GTown, I would think they would be in.
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Nova up early on GTown, 23-19
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“@APgelston: Nova takes a 33-29 lead over No. 5 Georgetown into halftime. 9pts for Pinkston. 9 turnovers for Wildcats.”
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Nova closing out win over Gt to punch their NCAA ticket. Amazing how well they draw fouls. They shot 32 already with a minute to go. Wright did a nice job this year and Pinkston is really getting good.
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Nova wins. 42 attempts at the line vs. 8 shows obvious home cooking, but still this guarantees Nova a spot in the tourney. Why can't we be Nova? They just keep winning no matter who they have. We just keep losing.
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Nova wins. 42 attempts at the line vs. 8 shows obvious home cooking, but still this guarantees Nova a spot in the tourney. Why can't we be Nova? They just keep winning no matter who they have. We just keep losing.
Because we took 7 free throws in our game and they took 42.
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We will never get home cooking like that. What I meant was, when are we going to exceed expectations? We have the talent...we have Sanchez coming...we have the best blocker...we have the Big East ROY...we have the #3 scorer in the Big East...we have a solid PG when healthy. Why can we never seem to put it all together? I don't see Nova beating anywhere near 3 top 5 teams again for a while, but you know they will be a top 25 team next year. Is it Jay Wright? Is it their talent scouts? Is it just luck? Is it chemistry? Whatever it is that helps them win so consistently, we need it here and fast.
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We will never get home cooking like that. What I meant was, when are we going to exceed expectations? We have the talent...we have Sanchez coming...we have the best blocker...we have the Big East ROY...we have the #3 scorer in the Big East...we have a solid PG when healthy. Why can we never seem to put it all together? I don't see Nova beating anywhere near 3 top 5 teams again for a while, but you know they will be a top 25 team next year. Is it Jay Wright? Is it their talent scouts? Is it just luck? Is it chemistry? Whatever it is that helps them win so consistently, we need it here and fast.
C'mon man, you know the reasons already. These guys don't execute in the half court offense enough, and they really are poor shooters. If we did either better, we would have a better record. If we did both, we'd have a great record. But we won't don't. We have to hope for next year.
Fortunately for us, I think we'll have a very good defense next year. We'll have tons of fouls to give with our athletic big men, so we really should be able to play aggressively. We will lead the country again in blocks, without a doubt. Rebounding has improved and should continue to improve.
To me the off-season is only about three things: half court execution, three point shooting and foul shot shooting.
We have to hope.. Our future is uncertain. But we have no idea if we will improve in these three areas. We could have a cruddy offense again, or maybe not. We just have to wait to whole off-season to find out. Unfortunately we'll have to have some patience to see what they can do to improve.
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Nova beat what Cuse, ville, G'town, have 20 wins. Deserve ncaa bid. Mean time we get blown out by Cuse, Ville, 2x by G'town, ND. What is wrong with this picture since 2 months ago we played them to OT on the road? ???
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Nova beat what Cuse, ville, G'town, have 20 wins. Deserve ncaa bid. Mean time we get blown out by Cuse, Ville, 2x by G'town, ND. What is wrong with this picture since 2 months ago we played them to OT on the road? ???
They get after it on defense. All we do is block shots. We have no other defensive skill.
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If we play 16 league games next year, I guess we add a few decent games in addition to Syracuse.
“@NJHoopsHaven: Mike Rice: Rutgers-Seton Hall "going to happen" next year. "We just have to figure out the logistics." Full text: http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hoopshaven/2013/03/07/mike-rice-ru-shu-going-to-happen-next-year/ (http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hoopshaven/2013/03/07/mike-rice-ru-shu-going-to-happen-next-year/)”
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“@AdamZagoria: Seton Hall recently gave @KevinWillard a contract extension but didn't announce it, sources told @SNYtv. Was told it's long term.”
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“@AdamZagoria: Seton Hall recently gave @KevinWillard a contract extension but didn't announce it, sources told @SNYtv. Was told it's long term.”
Following Norms 'rollover' model perhaps.
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Humorous;
“@PSBasketball: The Georgetown students are really giving it to James Southerland and MCW. Lord & Taylor chants plus offers to write James' term paper.”
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UConn battling PC without Giffey, Calhoun, Olander and the suspended big guy. Give Ollie credit for hanging tough this year. His attitude is to play the guys he has left and go at it. No BS excuses like losing players, having to play freshmen and sophomores, etc. Refreshing!
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A beat-up team with nothing to play for often thrives. That's what we're seeing so far this afternoon as a thin UConn team is beating Providence, 32-26. The Huskies are sending little-used players into the action around vets Shabazz Napier, Ryan Boatright and DeAndre Daniels and that's been enough to jump out to leads of as many as 10 points.
The PC defense (41% Husky shooting) hasn't been good enough. The offense is plagued by nine turnovers and not enough shots for Kadeem Batts. Bryce Cotton leads the Friars with seven points. Batts has six on 2-of-4 shooting.
PC badly needs the win to finish 10-8 in the Big East and keep its momentum heading into the Big East Tournament in New York next week. With a win, PC would finish the regular season winning 8 of 9 Big East games for the first time in program history.
“@KevinMcNamara33: UConn up on PC at half, 32-26 http://news.providencejournal.com/sports/college/2013/03/pc-set-to-take-on-beat-up-uconn.html#.UTt3kaz9z7k.twitter (http://news.providencejournal.com/sports/college/2013/03/pc-set-to-take-on-beat-up-uconn.html#.UTt3kaz9z7k.twitter)”
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Humorous;
“@PSBasketball: The Georgetown students are really giving it to James Southerland and MCW. Lord & Taylor chants plus offers to write James' term paper.”
We should lock our players and coaches in a room for three days and force them to watch the way Georgetown attacks the Syracuse zone on a video loop. Say what you want about the old man (I'll say he was a racist SOB), but JT3 is a great coach.
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Humorous;
“@PSBasketball: The Georgetown students are really giving it to James Southerland and MCW. Lord & Taylor chants plus offers to write James' term paper.”
We should lock our players and coaches in a room for three days and force them to watch the way Georgetown attacks the Syracuse zone on a video loop. Say what you want about the old man (I'll say he was a racist SOB), but JT3 is a great coach.
GT puts good passer at high post to pass down low to other power players. We waste CO on high post, why not put Sampson there for short jumper or dump to Chris? Frustrating.
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Lets not get carried away. They were lucky to score 25 points in a half. 15 of those from the 3 point line.
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Lets not get carried away. They were lucky to score 25 points in a half. 15 of those from the 3 point line.
Get ball inside with two options, dump down low or kick out for a three, not rocket science.
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Cuse trending way down. Not one of JB's best coaching job. Was MCW overrated? A future pro for sure, but not the super impact player a lot of folks said he would be this year.
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Lets not get carried away. They were lucky to score 25 points in a half. 15 of those from the 3 point line.
Get ball inside with two options, dump down low or kick out for a three, not rocket science.
What if you don't have anyone that can make a three? My points being Georgetown can shoot the three and we cant. You can't execute a zone offense if you cant shoot. And 25 points is not exactly lighting it up.
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Cuse trending way down. Not one of JB's best coaching job. Was MCW overrated? A future pro for sure, but not the super impact player a lot of folks said he would be this year.
I thought MCW could shoot...apparently not. Triche has been horrible too.
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Lets not get carried away. They were lucky to score 25 points in a half. 15 of those from the 3 point line.
Get ball inside with two options, dump down low or kick out for a three, not rocket science.
What if you don't have anyone that can make a three? My points being Georgetown can shoot the three and we cant. You can't execute a zone offense if you cant shoot. And 25 points is not exactly lighting it up.
My initial comment had to do with normal inside out way of attacking zones and SJU using bigs differently. I was not suggesting that our abysmal outside shooting would still not be a problem. I fully realize the fact that for too long we have not recruited or developed zone busting shooters. Slashers, yes, but to our detriment.
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Cuse has scored 35 pts with 2 minutes to go. We didn't have a chance against the G'town D.
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Cuse trending way down. Not one of JB's best coaching job. Was MCW overrated? A future pro for sure, but not the super impact player a lot of folks said he would be this year.
Yet they still smoked us
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Couldn't hit 40. I enjoyed watching that. God, I hate Cuse!
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We gave that Georgetown guy who came on our board hell about there returning team. Ha! Guess he got the last laugh. We told him markel Starks was at most average. I'd take staks over Greene anyday, twice on Sunday. Hats off to the horas, what's the story with Whittington though?
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Watching the end of GTown/Cuse was a thing of beauty.
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UConn wins in OT over PC.
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UConn grits one out in OT over PC.
That hurts provo a lot
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“@SIPeteThamel: Whoa. RT @NicoleAuerbach: Jim Boeheim: "I'm pretty much ready to go play golf somewhere."”
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Smith-Rivera turning into quite a player too.
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We gave that Georgetown guy who came on our board hell about there returning team. Ha! Guess he got the last laugh. We told him markel Starks was at most average. I'd take staks over Greene anyday, twice on Sunday. Hats off to the horas, what's the story with Whittington though?
Not all of us did.
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“@BigEastMBB: All-Rookie Team: O. Calhoun (UConn); D. Smith-Rivera (GU); S. Adams (Pitt); C. Obekpa (STJ); J. Sampson (STJ); R. Arcidiacono (VU).”
“@BigEastMBB: All-BIG EAST Honorable Mention: Davante Gardner (MU) Kadeem Batts (PC); JaKarr Sampson (STJ); Fuquan Edwin (SHU)”
“@BigEastMBB: All-BIG EAST Second Team: Sean Kilpatrick (CIN); Vander Blue (MU); Jerian Grant (ND); Michael Carter-Williams (SYR); C.J. Fair (SYR)”
“@BigEastMBB: All-BIG EAST First Team: Shabazz Napier (UConn); Otto Porter (GU); Gorgui Dieng (LOU); Russ Smith (LOU); Jack Cooley (ND); Bryce Cotton (PC)”
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“@KieranDarcy: D'Angelo Harrison, third-leading scorer in Big East, did not make All-Big East first, second or third teams, or even honorable mention”
“@PaintTouches: RT @BigEastMBB: All-BIG EAST Third Team: Markel Starks (GU); Peyton Siva (LOU); Tray Woodall (Pitt); Brandon Triche; JayVaughn Pinkston”
Argument?
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“@STJ_Basketball: #STJBB's Sampson and Villanova's Ryan Arcidiacono were the two unanimous All-Rookie Selections. @BigEastMBB ROY announced Monday at 11 a.m.”
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“@KieranDarcy: D'Angelo Harrison, third-leading scorer in Big East, did not make All-Big East first, second or third teams, or even honorable mention”
“@PaintTouches: RT @BigEastMBB: All-BIG EAST Third Team: Markel Starks (GU); Peyton Siva (LOU); Tray Woodall (Pitt); Brandon Triche; JayVaughn Pinkston”
Argument?
Harrison's snub is 100% late season suspension. No doubt. The idea that he at worst is not an honorable mention all league player is absurd assuming no suspension.
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“@KieranDarcy: D'Angelo Harrison, third-leading scorer in Big East, did not make All-Big East first, second or third teams, or even honorable mention”
“@PaintTouches: RT @BigEastMBB: All-BIG EAST Third Team: Markel Starks (GU); Peyton Siva (LOU); Tray Woodall (Pitt); Brandon Triche; JayVaughn Pinkston”
Argument?
Harrison's snub is 100% late season suspension. No doubt. The idea that he at worst is not an honorable mention all league player is absurd assuming no suspension.
Agree
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So Lavin has had 4 all rookie players the last 2 years ?
Nice
Assuming we have the remaining 3 for next year it could be a special year even after what we have gone through this year
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Hopefully the snub will motivate D'lo
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RA best not get roy over Karr.
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No respect for Harrison.
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No respect for Harrison.
BE awards are not just about stats. He has to carry himself like a player his team can count on. He didn't do that. His suspension ruined this season. W him, we probably beat Providence and Marquette.
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Probably another diamond in rough. GT certainly can identify talent;
“@GoodmanCBS: Isaac Copeland has committed to Georgetown, Miller School coach Scott Willard told CBSSports. Talented power forward in Class of 2014.”
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No respect for Harrison.
BE awards are not just about stats. He has to carry himself like a player his team can count on. He didn't do that. His suspension ruined this season. W him, we probably beat Providence and Marquette.
Didn't deserve honorable mention?
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MCW is a criminal and he made 2nd team....Dlo should've been at least honorable mention
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
Not saying I think it makes sense. Just got a real bad feeling about it.
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
Not saying I think it makes sense. Just got a real bad feeling about it.
Doomed man?
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
Not saying I think it makes sense. Just got a real bad feeling about it.
Doomed man?
A day in the life of a STJ fan.
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BTW, Moose cheer up and watch Carrington "slash" on MSG!
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BTW, Moose cheer up and watch Carrington "slash" on MSG!
I think that channel is only on Cablevision. I don't have Cablevision
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BTW, Moose cheer up and watch Carrington "slash" on MSG!
I think that channel is only on Cablevision. I don't have Cablevision
“@NYPost_Brazille: Full house of college coaches. Tony Chiles (St. John's), Van Macon (Rutgers) Allen Griffin (Dayton), Tom Pecora and John Morton (Fordham).”
Lavs hopefully shows.
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So Lavin has had 4 all rookie players the last 2 years ?
Nice
Assuming we have the remaining 3 for next year it could be a special year even after what we have gone through this year
That is correct. And it is even more impressive then that. Assuming Sampson wins ROY he will have back to back ROY and both his ROY's were honored on all league teams as well. I believe Mo was 2nd team and JaKarr honorable mention.
Furthermore there is little doubt that Harrison would have been recognized this year if not for the suspension.
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No respect for Harrison.
BE awards are not just about stats. He has to carry himself like a player his team can count on. He didn't do that. His suspension ruined this season. W him, we probably beat Providence and Marquette.
Didn't deserve honorable mention?
IDK. It wasn't an honorable finish to the season.
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RA best not get roy over Karr.
Dont think that will happen...Jakarr won 7 rookie of the week awards and can't see coaches voting him honorable mention All BE and not ROY
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Let's not forget also, that Harrison was shooting about 39% and 32% from 3. Not really that impressive. Overall, not even counting the suspension, I think this was a pretty disappointing season for D-lo.
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Let's not forget also, that Harrison was shooting about 39% and 32% from 3. Not really that impressive. Overall, not even counting the suspension, I think this was a pretty disappointing season for D-lo.
Would you want him on this offensively challenged team at all? IMO, he and Branch would do nice things together. Too bad Branch got hurt and we had to take a step back. BTW, I want him on my team.
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Let's not forget also, that Harrison was shooting about 39% and 32% from 3. Not really that impressive. Overall, not even counting the suspension, I think this was a pretty disappointing season for D-lo.
Yet the 39% was better than the 37% of last year.
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Let's not forget also, that Harrison was shooting about 39% and 32% from 3. Not really that impressive. Overall, not even counting the suspension, I think this was a pretty disappointing season for D-lo.
Would you want him on this offensively challenged team at all? IMO, he and Branch would do nice things together. Too bad Branch got hurt and we had to take a step back. BTW, I want him on my team.
Yes, of course I want him on the team. We need a scorer like him. I think we win against Providence and Marquette had he not been suspended. But I had hoped his FG% would be much better this year with a deeper team. I think he should've gotten honorable mention, but I can also understand why he was left off.
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
Not saying I think it makes sense. Just got a real bad feeling about it.
Why would you have a "real bad" feeling about this? Why do you even care who wins ROY? We are still headed to the NIT or the CBI regardless.
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
Not saying I think it makes sense. Just got a real bad feeling about it.
Why would you have a "real bad" feeling about this? Why do you even care who wins ROY? We are still headed to the NIT or the CBI regardless.
I would think back-to-back ROY's brings good PR for Lavin and the program on the recruiting trail, and given it's a safe assumption that JS's win would not be the catalyst for pushing him into the draft this year, it would be nothing but a positive for the program.
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
Not saying I think it makes sense. Just got a real bad feeling about it.
Why would you have a "real bad" feeling about this? Why do you even care who wins ROY? We are still headed to the NIT or the CBI regardless.
But how could the "youngest team" in the galaxy not benefit?
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
Not saying I think it makes sense. Just got a real bad feeling about it.
Why would you have a "real bad" feeling about this? Why do you even care who wins ROY? We are still headed to the NIT or the CBI regardless.
But how could the "youngest team" in the galaxy not benefit?
It would be something to brag about. That's for certain. Well, I suppose it would be nice to win SOMETHING.
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“@BigEastMBB: Providence's Kadeem Batts and Syracuse's Michael Carter-Williams named BIG EAST Most Improved Players.”
“@BigEastMBB: Marquette's Davante Gardner (11.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, .577 FG%) wins the BIG EAST Sixth Man Award”
“@BigEastMBB: Louisville's Gorgui Dieng (10.3 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 2.6 bpg) named BIG EAST Defensive Player of the Year.”
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“@BigEastMBB: Providence's Kadeem Batts and Syracuse's Michael Carter-Williams named BIG EAST Most Improved Players.”
There is no bigger fan of MCW but its a joke that he was voted Most Improved. Getting a chance to actually play doesn't mean you got better.
I don't care if he does get POY award.... how can Otto Porter not be the Most Improved Player in the league..?
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As expected;
“@GaryParrishCBS: One Big East coach is off the hot seat, according to his AD. Story: http://cbsprt.co/16muJul (http://cbsprt.co/16muJul) (H/T @BrendanPrunty)”
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As expected;
“@GaryParrishCBS: One Big East coach is off the hot seat, according to his AD. Story: http://cbsprt.co/16muJul (http://cbsprt.co/16muJul) (H/T @BrendanPrunty)”
Rice can keep the seat warm for one more year until Danny Hurley gets the job...
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STJ fans were voters hence the Harrison snub
Got a real bad feel that Archipoddamus gets ROY. Just with the black cloud over the program just my gut feeling.
Disagree. Wouldn't that be inconsistent with JS winning lion share of weekly awards?
Not saying I think it makes sense. Just got a real bad feeling about it.
Why would you have a "real bad" feeling about this? Why do you even care who wins ROY? We are still headed to the NIT or the CBI regardless.
I would have a real bad feeling about this because of the black cloud that never leaves above our head. Why wouldn't I care if an STJ player won ROY. The fact your asking why I care is a bit perplexing. The ROY award has nothing to do with where the team is headed. They are not correlated.
Thanks
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As expected;
“@GaryParrishCBS: One Big East coach is off the hot seat, according to his AD. Story: http://cbsprt.co/16muJul (http://cbsprt.co/16muJul) (H/T @BrendanPrunty)”
Rice can keep the seat warm for one more year until Danny Hurley gets the job...
So Danny is going from Wagner to URI to FDU to RU in a span of 2 years?
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As expected;
“@GaryParrishCBS: One Big East coach is off the hot seat, according to his AD. Story: http://cbsprt.co/16muJul (http://cbsprt.co/16muJul) (H/T @BrendanPrunty)”
Rice can keep the seat warm for one more year until Danny Hurley gets the job...
So Danny is going to from Wagner to URI to FDU to RU in a span of 2 years?
Bobby was mentioned in a post for FDU, not Danny.
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As expected;
“@GaryParrishCBS: One Big East coach is off the hot seat, according to his AD. Story: http://cbsprt.co/16muJul (http://cbsprt.co/16muJul) (H/T @BrendanPrunty)”
Rice can keep the seat warm for one more year until Danny Hurley gets the job...
So Danny is going to from Wagner to URI to FDU to RU in a span of 2 years?
Bobby was mentioned in a post for FDU, not Danny
No I was pretty certain the poster in question said that he heard Danny's family was not happy in Rhode Island and might grab the FDU job.
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As expected;
“@GaryParrishCBS: One Big East coach is off the hot seat, according to his AD. Story: http://cbsprt.co/16muJul (http://cbsprt.co/16muJul) (H/T @BrendanPrunty)”
Rice can keep the seat warm for one more year until Danny Hurley gets the job...
So Danny is going to from Wagner to URI to FDU to RU in a span of 2 years?
Bobby was mentioned in a post for FDU, not Danny.
I 100% stand corrected re-read it. He said Bobby.
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Hurley family is fine in rhode island and really excited about re-building, Know staff personally
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Carr headed overseas per Zags article
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kind of lame article but;
“@GoodmanCBS: Hot Seat Index continues with the Big East -- and it looks as though Mike Rice will get at least one more year: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21860423/hot-seat-index-big-east (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21860423/hot-seat-index-big-east)”
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kind of lame article but;
“@GoodmanCBS: Hot Seat Index continues with the Big East -- and it looks as though Mike Rice will get at least one more year: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21860423/hot-seat-index-big-east (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21860423/hot-seat-index-big-east)”
Dumb because its on a 1-10 scale. And what is the difference between a 1 and a 2 honestly. Should be 1-5 where you'd be able to differentiate better.
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kind of lame article but;
“@GoodmanCBS: Hot Seat Index continues with the Big East -- and it looks as though Mike Rice will get at least one more year: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21860423/hot-seat-index-big-east (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21860423/hot-seat-index-big-east)”
Dumb because its on a 1-10 scale. And what is the difference between a 1 and a 2 honestly. Should be 1-5 where you'd be able to differentiate better.
Hot seat coaches scale differential is the important stat. :) ;)
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Craig Carton tweet. Who knows?
“@cc660: Word on street is Jim Boeheim is out after this year.”
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Craig Carton tweet. Who knows?
“@cc660: Word on street is Jim Boeheim is out after this year.”
He had Ichiro news 2 days before he signed :)
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I buy it.
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JB has been more test than usual, blasting school presidents for demise of BE, etc.
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Craig Carton tweet. Who knows?
“@cc660: Word on street is Jim Boeheim is out after this year.”
He made it clear that he was angry with SU's decision to leave the conference. He's done enough. Hall of Famer. I won't miss facing him.
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Hello Mr. McCullough
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Hello Mr. McCullough
how sweet it would be.
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Hello Mr. McCullough
how sweet it would be.
Too good to be true?
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Hall USF game may be the worst basketball game I've EVER seen! (Hello Mike Patrick). Seems like no one on USF wants to take the shot. The pg Collins, who is usually decent, is standing in one spot when he doesn't have the ball, and lets his bigs get trapped and he doesn't move to get the ball. The Hall looks just as pathetic. Missed shots and turnovers by both teams.
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Hello Mr. McCullough
"Reverse Doomed" Moose?
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Hall USF game may be the worst basketball game I've EVER seen! (Hello Mike Patrick). Seems like no one on USF wants to take the shot. The pg Collins, who is usually decent, is standing in one spot when he doesn't have the ball, and lets his bigs get trapped and he doesn't move to get the ball. The Hall looks just as pathetic. Missed shots and turnovers by both teams.
I second this post. The game is impossible to watch.
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it is a painful game. makes me want to gouge my eyes out. :buck2:
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I know South Florida plays solid defense at times (not like last year though), but how come it seems that the last few years Seton Hall always shoots well against us?
This would be a terrible loss for SHU. South Florida is miserable.
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Guy just said it turned into a good game. I know it's on your network but c'mon.
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I know South Florida plays solid defense at times (not like last year though), but how come it seems that the last few years Seton Hall always shoots well against us?
This would be a terrible loss for SHU. South Florida is miserable.
They are both miserable. What's the difference?
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Different levels of misery this year, lol.
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Hello Mr. McCullough
Is Hopkins the heir apparent? Does he have what it takes to take the baton and run?
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Craig Carton tweet. Who knows?
“@cc660: Word on street is Jim Boeheim is out after this year.”
You gotta think the retirement of Boeheim would help our recruiting. He is one tough guy to recruit agaist.
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Craig Carton tweet. Who knows?
“@cc660: Word on street is Jim Boeheim is out after this year.”
You gotta think the retirement of Boeheim would help our recruiting. He is one tough guy to recruit agaist.
Losing a coach who has been their head coach since 1976, has over 1000 wins, national championships and built a dynsasty will cause negative effects on all aspects. It's undeniable because of his gravitas, recruiting prowess and resume'. There is no doubt it would change the reciting landscape not only for Syracuse, but everyone else as well. Changing to a conference that's rooted in the south also will exacerbate that effect I think.
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Craig Carton tweet. Who knows?
“@cc660: Word on street is Jim Boeheim is out after this year.”
You gotta think the retirement of Boeheim would help our recruiting. He is one tough guy to recruit agaist.
Take that step further maybe an opportunity to pick off a couple of transfers
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You gotta think the retirement of Boeheim would help our recruiting. He is one tough guy to recruit agaist.
Since Mike Hopkins coordinates almost all of their recruiting efforts with Red Autry, I don't think kids will leave if Boeheim does.
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You gotta think the retirement of Boeheim would help our recruiting. He is one tough guy to recruit agaist.
Since Mike Hopkins coordinates almost all of their recruiting efforts with Red Autry, I don't think kids will leave if Boeheim does.
Agree kids might not leave, but let's remember who steers the ship. Kids commit to that program because Boeheim is at the helm. Make no doubts.
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That is a good point PMG, and I am sure it is something Cuse has done intentionally to maintain stability when Boeheim leaves. But I do think there is some merit to the notion that some recruits may think twice without Boeheim being at the helm. Ultimately he is who they come to play for, and he is the one with all of those wins and history of developing guys for the league. So I can't help but think certain recruits might second guess the decision, even if they are very familiar with Hop, Autry, etc.
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Craig Carton tweet. Who knows?
“@cc660: Word on street is Jim Boeheim is out after this year.”
You gotta think the retirement of Boeheim would help our recruiting. He is one tough guy to recruit agaist.
Take that step further maybe an opportunity to pick off a couple of transfers
That'll be the day. Other schools aren't as incompetent as us. Except for maybe Seton Hall.
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Craig Carton tweet. Who knows?
“@cc660: Word on street is Jim Boeheim is out after this year.”
You gotta think the retirement of Boeheim would help our recruiting. He is one tough guy to recruit agaist.
In the last 10 years, he's recruited, what maybe 3 New Yorkers. He knows to stay away from overhyped punks.
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In the last 10 years, he's recruited, what maybe 3 New Yorkers. He knows to stay away from overhyped punks.
How silly a statement.
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In the last 10 years, he's recruited, what maybe 3 New Yorkers. He knows to stay away from overhyped punks.
How silly a statement.
It is. You're right, but what I meant is that Boeheim wouldn't bother with the Sebastian Telfair, Lance Stephenson type. He isn't sweating NYC. It's not like he's Pitino, Huggins or Calhoun, and he's built national contenders off of NYC.
He hasn't been recruiting very much here. No more than one guy at a time, if that.
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In the last 10 years, he's recruited, what maybe 3 New Yorkers. He knows to stay away from overhyped punks.
How silly a statement.
It is. You're right, but what I meant is that Boeheim wouldn't bother with the Sebastian Telfair, Lance Stephenson type. He isn't sweating NYC. It's not like he's Pitino, Huggins or Calhoun, and he's built national contenders off of NYC.
He hasn't been recruiting very much here. No more than one guy at a time, if that.
Wonder how karlton Hines would have looked in that Syracuse orange
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In the last 10 years, he's recruited, what maybe 3 New Yorkers. He knows to stay away from overhyped punks.
How silly a statement.
It is. You're right, but what I meant is that Boeheim wouldn't bother with the Sebastian Telfair, Lance Stephenson type. He isn't sweating NYC. It's not like he's Pitino, Huggins or Calhoun, and he's built national contenders off of NYC.
He hasn't been recruiting very much here. No more than one guy at a time, if that.
Wonder how karlton Hines would have looked in that Syracuse orange
Who's that?
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In the last 10 years, he's recruited, what maybe 3 New Yorkers. He knows to stay away from overhyped punks.
How silly a statement.
It is. You're right, but what I meant is that Boeheim wouldn't bother with the Sebastian Telfair, Lance Stephenson type. He isn't sweating NYC. It's not like he's Pitino, Huggins or Calhoun, and he's built national contenders off of NYC.
He hasn't been recruiting very much here. No more than one guy at a time, if that.
Wonder how karlton Hines would have looked in that Syracuse orange
Who's that?
http://panachereport.com/channels/hip%20hop%20gallery/StreetStories.htm (http://panachereport.com/channels/hip%20hop%20gallery/StreetStories.htm)
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“@JRbroadcaster: Combo of young talent, experience means future bright for Providence http://cbsprt.co/ZIOwyI (http://cbsprt.co/ZIOwyI) via @cbssports”
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“@JRbroadcaster: UC's Mick Cronin blasts NCAA "Nobody cares about student athletes. All anybody cares about is money." More coming - #bigeastmbb”
“@JRbroadcaster: "If people cared about student athletes, WVU wouldnt be in Big12 w10 teams flying 800 miles to their closest home game" M Cronin #bigeastmbb”
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Louisville's defense is incredible so far. Giving Nova fits.
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“@KieranDarcy: Villanova has 16 turnovers -- and we still have 2:23 left in the first half”
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Louisville's defense is incredible so far. Giving Nova fits.
Good defense and wish we applied that type of pressure, but jeeze they foul every possession.
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Yeah, the refs are letting them play
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
I'm okay w guys like Branch, Jones, Balamou, Obekpa etc. working on their games against lesser teams. If this is what we've earned, then we should take our medicine like men. We have no right to expect an NIT bid. We didn't earn it.
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Lesser teams? You're in those C tournaments because you are a lesser team
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Lesser teams? You're in those C tournaments because you are a lesser team
What happened to the "we" are a lesser team Marco? I thought you were with us. Lol
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Lesser teams? You're in those C tournaments because you are a lesser team
Yea, but Mullin went here. Jackson too.
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Lesser teams? You're in those C tournaments because you are a lesser team
What happened to the "we" are a lesser team Marco? I thought you were with us. Lol
Haha. I was generally speaking. Not just about SJU
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Lesser teams? You're in those C tournaments because you are a lesser team
Yea, but Mullin went here. Jackson too.
Ya and Looie coached here
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
I'm okay w guys like Branch, Jones, Balamou, Obekpa etc. working on their games against lesser teams. If this is what we've earned, then we should take our medicine like men. We have no right to expect an NIT bid. We didn't earn it.
I never said anything about expecting an NIT bid. If you don't get picked you don't get picked. Move on. That's my opinion. Everyone has one.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
I'm okay w guys like Branch, Jones, Balamou, Obekpa etc. working on their games against lesser teams. If this is what we've earned, then we should take our medicine like men. We have no right to expect an NIT bid. We didn't earn it.
I never said anything about expecting an NIT bid. If you don't get picked you don't get picked. Move on. That's my opinion. Everyone has one.
I didn't say you expected it. I think it's the nature of the University to pull that sense of entitlement crap. Norm got an NIT bid that he had no business getting.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Unless the rules have changed, I'm pretty sure you can't practice as a team once the season is over. If I remember correctly, only 3 players can run drills with one coach at a time. By accepting any post-season tournament you can run a normal practice.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Unless the rules have changed, I'm pretty sure you can't practice as a team once the season is over. If I remember correctly, only 3 players can run drills with one coach at a time. By accepting any post-season tournament you can run a normal practice.
Thought you could run thru Final Four. You might be right though I'm nowhere near certain.
Besides we don't need full practice. Lock them in a gym shooting till their arms fall off.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Unless the rules have changed, I'm pretty sure you can't practice as a team once the season is over. If I remember correctly, only 3 players can run drills with one coach at a time. By accepting any post-season tournament you can run a normal practice.
I was bored, so I looked it up:
17.3.4 End of Playing Season. A member institution’s last contest (game or scrimmage or postseason tournament
contest) with outside competition in basketball shall not be played after the respective Division I Basketball
Championship game. However, an institution may not continue to practice (or compete against outside
competition) in basketball beyond its last regular-season contest, including the conference championship (if any),
unless it has reason to believe it is under consideration for selection to participate in an NCAA championship or
other postseason national championship event. An institution not selected to participate in the championship or
an institution that loses in the championship may not continue to practice until the conclusion of the championship
event.
I think I was wrong with the 3 player drills with a coach though. I'm pretty sure Lav would accept any post-season invite just to get more time with these kids, which IMO they need.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Unless the rules have changed, I'm pretty sure you can't practice as a team once the season is over. If I remember correctly, only 3 players can run drills with one coach at a time. By accepting any post-season tournament you can run a normal practice.
I was bored, so I looked it up:
17.3.4 End of Playing Season. A member institution’s last contest (game or scrimmage or postseason tournament
contest) with outside competition in basketball shall not be played after the respective Division I Basketball
Championship game. However, an institution may not continue to practice (or compete against outside
competition) in basketball beyond its last regular-season contest, including the conference championship (if any),
unless it has reason to believe it is under consideration for selection to participate in an NCAA championship or
other postseason national championship event. An institution not selected to participate in the championship or
an institution that loses in the championship may not continue to practice until the conclusion of the championship
event.
I think I was wrong with the 3 player drills with a coach though. I'm pretty sure Lav would accept any post-season invite just to get more time with these kids, which IMO they need.
Thanks
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Unless the rules have changed, I'm pretty sure you can't practice as a team once the season is over. If I remember correctly, only 3 players can run drills with one coach at a time. By accepting any post-season tournament you can run a normal practice.
I was bored, so I looked it up:
17.3.4 End of Playing Season. A member institution’s last contest (game or scrimmage or postseason tournament
contest) with outside competition in basketball shall not be played after the respective Division I Basketball
Championship game. However, an institution may not continue to practice (or compete against outside
competition) in basketball beyond its last regular-season contest, including the conference championship (if any),
unless it has reason to believe it is under consideration for selection to participate in an NCAA championship or
other postseason national championship event. An institution not selected to participate in the championship or
an institution that loses in the championship may not continue to practice until the conclusion of the championship
event.
I think I was wrong with the 3 player drills with a coach though. I'm pretty sure Lav would accept any post-season invite just to get more time with these kids, which IMO they need.
They all need practice. Staff included.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Unless the rules have changed, I'm pretty sure you can't practice as a team once the season is over. If I remember correctly, only 3 players can run drills with one coach at a time. By accepting any post-season tournament you can run a normal practice.
I was bored, so I looked it up:
17.3.4 End of Playing Season. A member institution’s last contest (game or scrimmage or postseason tournament
contest) with outside competition in basketball shall not be played after the respective Division I Basketball
Championship game. However, an institution may not continue to practice (or compete against outside
competition) in basketball beyond its last regular-season contest, including the conference championship (if any),
unless it has reason to believe it is under consideration for selection to participate in an NCAA championship or
other postseason national championship event. An institution not selected to participate in the championship or
an institution that loses in the championship may not continue to practice until the conclusion of the championship
event.
I think I was wrong with the 3 player drills with a coach though. I'm pretty sure Lav would accept any post-season invite just to get more time with these kids, which IMO they need.
Good stuff '75, thanks for the research.
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Unless the rules have changed, I'm pretty sure you can't practice as a team once the season is over. If I remember correctly, only 3 players can run drills with one coach at a time. By accepting any post-season tournament you can run a normal practice.
I was bored, so I looked it up:
17.3.4 End of Playing Season. A member institution’s last contest (game or scrimmage or postseason tournament
contest) with outside competition in basketball shall not be played after the respective Division I Basketball
Championship game. However, an institution may not continue to practice (or compete against outside
competition) in basketball beyond its last regular-season contest, including the conference championship (if any),
unless it has reason to believe it is under consideration for selection to participate in an NCAA championship or
other postseason national championship event. An institution not selected to participate in the championship or
an institution that loses in the championship may not continue to practice until the conclusion of the championship
event.
I think I was wrong with the 3 player drills with a coach though. I'm pretty sure Lav would accept any post-season invite just to get more time with these kids, which IMO they need.
They all need practice. Staff included.
;D. +1
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Don't you have to pay to play in those tournaments?
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“@BrendanPrunty: Rutgers will not participate in either the CBI or CIT. The Scarlet Knights' 2012-13 season is officially over.”
Smart move.
Why do you think that's a smart move?
I'm not a fan of either of those two tournaments. It cheapens the post season. With 330 teams in D1 the NIT is nice for the next group of schools to get some work in. Still a respectable number of teams. The other two are a joke to me.
Even if you look at it just as a way for your team to get some extra work?
Yep. Not learning much playing vs. teams that far down on the ladder IMO. Pretty sure you can still work the team out. Rather focus on that.
Don't you have to pay to play in those tournaments?
Someone said to host games you do. To go on the road, no
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If anyone knows someone at the game tonight please let me know.
I will pay them to smack Sean McDonough in the back of the head.
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If anyone knows someone at the game tonight please let me know.
I will pay them to smack Sean McDonough in the back of the head.
D Lo
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If anyone knows someone at the game tonight please let me know.
I will pay them to smack Sean McDonough in the back of the head.
Don't like him in general or did he say something tonight?
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If anyone knows someone at the game tonight please let me know.
I will pay them to smack Sean McDonough in the back of the head.
D Lo
Dom would have made more sense. Dee would just glare at him
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If anyone knows someone at the game tonight please let me know.
I will pay them to smack Sean McDonough in the back of the head.
Don't like him in general or did he say something tonight?
Never had an issue but announcing this weeks games and Cuse games in particular has been extra nauseating.
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Ionaesque choke job here
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VT transfer, Harrell is a monster, a Moose favorite I recall.
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Ionaesque choke job here
SU Iona rematch?
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“@AdamZagoria: Montrezl Harrell has taken this game over. 16 pts, 7 rebs and a huge block there.”
If Greenberg wasn't fired he'd have Harrell, that PG, Green and Finney. Nice decision by AD to can Seth.
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VT transfer, Harrell is a monster, a Moose favorite I recall.
I got an eye for talent ;)
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Ionaesque choke job here
SU Iona rematch?
F Marius Janulis. Foul these guys all day long.brutal from the freet throw line
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Ionaesque choke job here
SU Iona rematch?
F Marius Janulis. Foul these guys all day long.brutal from the freet throw line
If only Mike Glover were still here
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Louisville is the best team in the country.
This is the team right now that Pitino envisioned at the beginning of the year.
Deep, nasty and hungry.
You want depth they turned that game on a dime with Russ Smith, Chane Behanan and Blackshear on the bench.
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Ionaesque choke job here
SU Iona rematch?
F Marius Janulis. Foul these guys all day long.brutal from the freet throw line
If only Mike Glover were still here
We got Laury. Just as good imo
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If anyone knows someone at the game tonight please let me know.
I will pay them to smack Sean McDonough in the back of the head.
Don't like him in general or did he say something tonight?
Never had an issue but announcing this weeks games and Cuse games in particular has been extra nauseating.
When Syracuse was leading in the first half I had a pleasent thought,he would be at ESPN and our most likely SJU on Fox so not longer would I have to listen to the SOB
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Louisville is the best team in the country.
This is the team right now that Pitino envisioned at the beginning of the year.
Deep, nasty and hungry.
You want depth they turned that game on a dime with Russ Smith, Chane Behanan and Blackshear on the bench.
Louisville is what we should aspire to be.
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If anyone knows someone at the game tonight please let me know.
I will pay them to smack Sean McDonough in the back of the head.
Don't like him in general or did he say something tonight?
Never had an issue but announcing this weeks games and Cuse games in particular has been extra nauseating.
When Syracuse was leading in the first half I had a pleasent thought,he would be at ESPN and our most likely SJU on Fox so not longer would I have to listen to the SOB
I never had a problem with him. That could easily be tied to my blind love for bill raftery though..
Ill take Dan shullman over him everyday however.
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If anyone knows someone at the game tonight please let me know.
I will pay them to smack Sean McDonough in the back of the head.
Don't like him in general or did he say something tonight?
Never had an issue but announcing this weeks games and Cuse games in particular has been extra nauseating.
When Syracuse was leading in the first half I had a pleasent thought,he would be at ESPN and our most likely SJU on Fox so not longer would I have to listen to the SOB
I never had a problem with him. That could easily be tied to my blind love for bill raftery though..
Ill take Dan shullman over her everyday however.
Raft and Shulman both great.
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Hard for a slow 6'9 guy to sneak in and out anywhere;
“@KevinRDuffy: #UConn's Olander arrested on spring break in Florida http://blog.ctnews.com/uconnbasketball/2013/03/21/olander-arrested-on-spring-break/ (http://blog.ctnews.com/uconnbasketball/2013/03/21/olander-arrested-on-spring-break/)”
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If GT really does modify their Princeton offense is there hope our "weave" will be put on the shelf?
“@AdamZagoria: Georgetown coach JT3 told Dwayne Morgan's mentor, Dwayne Wise, they wd alter their Princeton offense & include more isos if he committed”
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Stephen Domingo, a top 30 recruit has gotten no playing time at Georgetown. I guess you have to wait your turn there.
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Stephen Domingo, a top 30 recruit has gotten no playing time at Georgetown. I guess you have to wait your turn there.
He moved up in class and enrolled early at Gtown.
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Rutgers commit and list of top JUCOs for 2013;
“@NJHoopsHaven: The 6-foot-7 Chris Griffin is rated No. 14 overall nationally among JUCOs by http://jucorecruiting.com (http://jucorecruiting.com). The native of Tallahassee plays for Wabash”
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Rutgers commit and list of top JUCOs for 2013;
“@NJHoopsHaven: The 6-foot-7 Chris Griffin is rated No. 14 overall nationally among JUCOs by http://jucorecruiting.com (http://jucorecruiting.com). The native of Tallahassee plays for Wabash”
I mentioned a couple of these guys a month or so ago while I was bored one day looking at JUCO's. But I think we are more looking at '14 for maybe a JUCO or two.
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Grounded assessment of GT season and stunning loss. I like the reference to being a rabid fan can take its toll on your life. Being a SJU fan for so many years, I probably have a half hour to live.
“@CasualHoya: Unpacking the Agony of the 2012-13 Georgetown Hoyas: http://sbn.to/WRVq6r (http://sbn.to/WRVq6r) (HT @chrismchaines)”
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The "Nameless League"
“@BigEastMBB: Conference announces long-term basketball deal with CBS Sports: http://bit.ly/15PVmVx (http://bit.ly/15PVmVx)”
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“@GeorgetownHoops: Otto Porter Jr. named Basketball Times National Player of the Year.”
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Buzz does so well in Juco recruiting, nabbing 6'8 forward with recognition;
“@PaintTouches: Jameel McKay was named a first team JuCo All-American this morning. Joins DJO, Jae and Buycks as #mubb players to receive those honors.”
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Buzz does so well in Juco recruiting, nabbing 6'8 forward with recognition;
“@PaintTouches: Jameel McKay was named a first team JuCo All-American this morning. Joins DJO, Jae and Buycks as #mubb players to receive those honors.”
A 6'8 JUCO AA? Yeah I know someone who could have used one.
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Sanchez.
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
We can always let Dom play more PF.
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
Gift ;)
But seriously, I'm with you moose. Could use some front court insurance for after next year. Jordan priority #1 and if that falls through get on the hunt for a developable big man.
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
Not a Jones fan?
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
Not a Jones fan?
Not particularly.
Nor am I confident he even stays.
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
Not a Jones fan?
Not particularly.
Nor am I confident he even stays.
Assume we'll get someone in the '14 class, no?
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
We can always let Dom play more PF.
I'd like to see Dom become more of a guard. Think he has combo guard potential
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I really hope jones and Felix stay. I think they have huge upsides.
Not sure we should go after a stop gap big if we whiff on Jordan. There are quite a few legit bigs in our backyard for 2015. I'd like to get 2 then
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
Not a Jones fan?
Not particularly.
Nor am I confident he even stays.
Assume we'll get someone in the '14 class, no?
Would you rather have a freshman and continue to be that popular moniker or a guy already in the system for a year and a Sr?
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I really hope jones and Felix stay. I think they have huge upsides.
Not sure we should go after a stop gap big if we whiff on Jordan. There are quite a few legit bigs in our backyard for 2015. I'd like to get 2 then
Thats great but 14 is the problem. You lose Karr, Sanchez and Gift most likely. Thats a lot up front.
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
Not a Jones fan?
Not particularly.
Nor am I confident he even stays.
Assume we'll get someone in the '14 class, no?
Would you rather have a freshman and continue to be that popular moniker or a guy already in the system for a year and a Sr?
Get a juco for '14 then. I just don't view it as a big issue, though get your point. I'm also not so sure Jakarr is gone after next year.
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Sanchez.
Yeah I'd like a guy with 2 yrs. Who gets on the court too. And can hold the fort when we lose the aforementioned Sanchez and Karr in 14
We can always let Dom play more PF.
I'd like to see Dom become more of a guard. Think he has combo guard potential
Was being sarcastic.
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Great evaluation of Gardner, Marquette big, who really does great job finishing, rebounding, drawing fouls and making FTs. His defense and conditioning remain issues of concerns. I wish someone could critique our main players in similar manner.
“@PaintTouches: ICYMI, we broke down Davante Gardner's junior campaign at Marquette: http://painttouches.com/2013/04/08/player-breakdown-davante-gardner-2/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/04/08/player-breakdown-davante-gardner-2/) #mubb”
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Great evaluation of Gardner, Marquette big, who really does great job finishing, rebounding, drawing fouls and making FTs. His defense and conditioning remain issues of concerns. I wish someone could critique our main players in similar manner.
“@PaintTouches: ICYMI, we broke down Davante Gardner's junior campaign at Marquette: http://painttouches.com/2013/04/08/player-breakdown-davante-gardner-2/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/04/08/player-breakdown-davante-gardner-2/) #mubb”
Phil Greene dribbles.
Done
Happy? ;)
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Eli Carter transferring from Rutgers.
Good. Have fun leaving the Big East! Can't even imagine how badly they will suck in basketball and football in the Big 12.
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Eli Carter transferring from Rutgers.
Good. Have fun leaving the Big East! Can't even imagine how badly they will suck in basketball and football in the Big 12.
Although they have more than 10 schools, Rutgers is going to the big10
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Eli Carter transferring from Rutgers.
Good. Have fun leaving the Big East! Can't even imagine how badly they will suck in basketball and football in the Big 12.
Although they have more than 10 schools, Rutgers is going to the big10
Oops that's what I meant. Rutgers is going to be as relevant as DePaul there. Look for football scores to be 42-0, 37-3, 62-14, etc. and Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, OSU, and Wisconsin to dominate them in basketball.
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“@TheBBallDiary: Its unofficial. Soon official. Will wait for person to announce & get shine. Creighton added a key east coast staff to gear for big east.”
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“@TheBBallDiary: Its unofficial. Soon official. Will wait for person to announce & get shine. Creighton added a key east coast staff to gear for big east.”
Beware the Blue Jay?
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I'd like to see Steve DeMeo end up with some stability in his coaching life.
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I guess Baldi would have heard something if it was Grasso, right?
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I guess Baldi would have heard something if it was Grasso, right?
Jared Grasso in Omaha Nebraska?
Ha you have better chance of Poison moving to a flyover state
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Clue #2
“@TheBBallDiary: This soon to be new assistant coach for Creighton worked for hall of fame coach who produced liters of NBA players. One of them going to HOF”
Kevin Freeman? Or former GW Coach back at UConn?
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I guess Baldi would have heard something if it was Grasso, right?
Jared Grasso in Omaha Nebraska?
Ha you have better chance of Poison moving to a flyover state
Or anywhere for that matter.
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“@TheBBallDiary: Its unofficial. Soon official. Will wait for person to announce & get shine. Creighton added a key east coast staff to gear for big east.”
Chuck Martin?
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“@TheBBallDiary: Its unofficial. Soon official. Will wait for person to announce & get shine. Creighton added a key east coast staff to gear for big east.”
Chuck Martin?
Ted- Coach Cal is in the Hall of Shame, not HJall of Fame.. ha ha ha ha
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Nova got a late pickup Darryl Reynolds:
http://www.vuhoops.com/2013/4/23/4257228/villanova-recruiting-darryl-reynolds (http://www.vuhoops.com/2013/4/23/4257228/villanova-recruiting-darryl-reynolds)
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And we thought we had a problem not recruiting enough post players.
Until they signed this kid Reynolds, Nova had 1 guy over 6'7 returning.
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Stud;
“@CasualHoya: 5-star power forward, ranked 3rd overall at position in Class of 2015. RT @TheRecruitScoop: Georgetown offered Team Texas PF Elijah Thomas.”
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Staff may be working on it, but post presence a real need for the program. Marquette, GT do well in that domain.;
“@CasualHoya: Recruiting Update: Georgetown Looking to Put the "Big" Back in Big Man U http://sbn.to/Y4ds8h (http://sbn.to/Y4ds8h)”
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Buzz never sleeps, going after some nice players;
“@PaintTouches: Busy MT @RivalsNation Jim Boheim & Buzz Williams just left visit w Kaleb Joseph at Cushing Acad. Williams flying to see @Goodlucko_12 now.”
Goodluck Okonoboh
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“@blauds: West Coast Conference commissioner Jamie Zaninovich could still be in mix as Big East (Catholic 7) commissioner.”
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Doug McDermott is returning... good news for the BE
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9211520/doug-mcdermott-puts-nba-draft-return-creighton-bluejays-senior-year (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9211520/doug-mcdermott-puts-nba-draft-return-creighton-bluejays-senior-year)
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Doug McDermott is returning... good news for the BE
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9211520/doug-mcdermott-puts-nba-draft-return-creighton-bluejays-senior-year (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9211520/doug-mcdermott-puts-nba-draft-return-creighton-bluejays-senior-year)
Very good for our league. Hope Eli carter stays in the league and heads to Creighton.
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Important return for GT
“@CasualHoya: Per @GUStonewalls, Georgetown assistant Kevin Broadus said last night at team banquet that Greg Whittington will be back next season.”
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Good official IMO;
“@syrbasketball: I haven't seen this anywhere, but I hear that John Cahill will be supervisor of officials for new Big East (the Catholic 7+3).”
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Good official IMO;
“@syrbasketball: I haven't seen this anywhere, but I hear that John Cahill will be supervisor of officials for new Big East (the Catholic 7+3).”
One of the best IMO. Was with my grandpa the day he passed.
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“@VUhoops: BIG EAST eyeing WCC Commissioner Jamie Zaninovich http://sbn.to/YakrMY (http://sbn.to/YakrMY)”
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“@JonRothstein: Buzz Williams continues to relentlessly schedule for Marquette. Ohio State, at Wisconsin, at Arizona State, 76 Classic + one more BCS game.”
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Would be a plus;
“@sn_ncaab: Creighton looking at sixth year of eligibility for Grant Gibbs http://bit.ly/11R2kKd (http://bit.ly/11R2kKd)”
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Big piece;
“@VUhoops: New Big East to hire a commissioner this week http://sbn.to/15V9u4u (http://sbn.to/15V9u4u)”
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Dont know much bout any of these guys mention.
May be unfair but the question need to be asked: Is Dan Gavitt where he is only because of his pops or does he have what it takes?
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Dont know much bout any of these guys mention.
May be unfair but the question need to be asked: Is Dan Gavitt where he is only because of his pops or does he have what it takes?
In any business - 90% of the time its not what you know but who you know...
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Creighton added uconn assistant Pat Sellers to their staff. Very good move for them IMO, in trying to improve their recruiting on the east coast. Glad to see Creighton stepping up to the plate to land talent.
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“@DaveTelep: Nick Noskowiak committed to Marquette today. The 2015 G was prioritized by Buzz Williams in Dallas this month.”
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“@KevinMcNamara33: Mikael Herbert, a 6-9 stretch 4 Man from Finland is on the Providence campus today. BT shooter.”
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Sensible ref and solid choice IMO.
“@raphiellej: John Cahill to supervise officials in 'new' Big East http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1VEm (http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1VEm)”
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“@KevinMcNamara33: Mikael Herbert, a 6-9 stretch 4 Man from Finland is on the Providence campus today. BT shooter.”
Wonder if Ed will have him stay with Henton... Make sure he's tough enough so he doesn't have to run him off in a year
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Sensible ref and solid choice IMO.
“@raphiellej: John Cahill to supervise officials in 'new' Big East http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1VEm (http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1VEm)”
Hopefully he doesn't have Jim Burr's number.
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And Slice going back to Pitt. Looks like Jamie is letting go a 10 year assistant Pat Sandle to make room for Rohrssen's return.
Perhaps if Barry was there a few weeks ago maybe Severe goes to Pitt:
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/pitt-big-east/rohrssen-to-rejoin-pitt-basketball-coaching-staff-686022/ (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/pitt-big-east/rohrssen-to-rejoin-pitt-basketball-coaching-staff-686022/)
BTW-A few more weeks and this won't be Big East news anymore.
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And Slice going back to Pitt. Looks like Jamie is letting go a 10 year assistant Pat Sandle to make room for Rohrssen's return.
Perhaps if Barry was there a few weeks ago maybe Severe goes to Pitt:
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/pitt-big-east/rohrssen-to-rejoin-pitt-basketball-coaching-staff-686022/ (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/pitt-big-east/rohrssen-to-rejoin-pitt-basketball-coaching-staff-686022/)
BTW-A few more weeks and this won't be Big East news anymore.
Thats why it was posted in Coaching Carousel thread ;)
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Ha must have missed it. Only have two eyes... :2funny: :2funny:
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Sensible ref and solid choice IMO.
“@raphiellej: John Cahill to supervise officials in 'new' Big East http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1VEm (http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1VEm)”
Hopefully he doesn't have Jim Burr's number.
We can only hope lol. Wouldn't mind seeing Mike Kitts do big east games again.
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This kid is going to be a solid player, showed flashes as a Frosh;
“@MarquetteMBB: #mubb's Steve Taylor, Jr. underwent elective right knee surgery Wed. morning. Estimated rehab 3-4 months. http://on.fb.me/13IJTrh (http://on.fb.me/13IJTrh)”
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This guy is Providence area writer/broadcaster who I respect. Interesting comments about Gavitt not leading in BE Commissioner search and influence of GT. I have heard it will be Zaninovich fwiw. A better choice in my opinion.
"• ICYMI – the NCAA officially recognized the new “Big East” as an official Division I multi-sport conference this week. 32 automatic berths in next year’s basketball tournament, 36 at-larges. And the name change for the old Big East to “American Athletic Conference” (HQ remains in Providence) became official, and will changeover July 1. That’s the good news. The NCAA also added representatives of the Big East to several council and leadership positions, which is also good news. But the league still has no commissioner. Not good news. Several published reports have West Coast Conference commissioner Jamie Zaninovich as the current front-runner…
• Zaninovich has experience on the NCAA tournament selection committee, experience running a Catholic school-based league, and east coast ties from his time working at Princeton…when Georgetown’s John Thompson III was the head basketball coach. Solid credentials, sure. But there also seems to be some backlash against Providence and the Providence-centric past of the Big East, with much of the angst coming from Washington, DC. Georgetown has been out in front of much of the discussion within the new Big East, and Dan Gavitt’s candidacy has cooled. Coincidence?"
“@JRbroadcaster: Pats draft grade...Collins' gains made...your race horse name? John Rooke - Thinking Out Loud: http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud80/ (http://www.golocalprov.com/sports/john-rooke-thinking-out-loud80/)”
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And Slice going back to Pitt. Looks like Jamie is letting go a 10 year assistant Pat Sandle to make room for Rohrssen's return.
Perhaps if Barry was there a few weeks ago maybe Severe goes to Pitt:
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/pitt-big-east/rohrssen-to-rejoin-pitt-basketball-coaching-staff-686022/ (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/pitt-big-east/rohrssen-to-rejoin-pitt-basketball-coaching-staff-686022/)
BTW-A few more weeks and this won't be Big East news anymore.
Pat Sandle, of course, is a former Steve Lavin and Ben Howland assistant.
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"Nova's Athletic Director later confirmed at a Villanova Athletics event that next season's matchup would be part of a "Home & Home" that would see the Wildcats host a game in the 2014-15 season.
Word out of Syracuse now is that the agreement is actually a "One, One, and One" series with the Orange and Wildcats playing at Madison Square Garden in 2015-16. With a neutral court game in New York City, both schools can engage the shared metropolitan hotbed of alumni while sustaining a historical rivalry and solidifying an out-of-conference opponent."
“@BrendanPrunty: Another Big East rivalry staying alive ... for now. RT @VUhoops: Villanova & Syracuse to play for the next 3 seasons http://sbn.to/18pzJiK (http://sbn.to/18pzJiK)”
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" The search for a commissioner for the new Big East is apparently focusing outside of the traditional box of college administrators and focusing on someone with more marketing and business experience, perhaps connected to the NBA or Major League Baseball.
According to sources familiar with the search which could come to a conclusion in the next few days, the Big East Presidents have ruled out both former Big East associate commissioner and NCAA vice president Danny Gavitt and West Coast Commissioner Jamie Zaninovich and are focusing on the NBA or Major League Baseball as the primary talent pool.
Major League baseball VP Tim Brosnan was a finalist last summer when the old Big East was searaching for a new commissioner to replace John Marinatto. The Big East eventually hired CBS sports VP Mike Aresco.
The search also focused on several possibilities in the NBA office. With an announcement expected in the next few days ,the Big East hopes to have its leadership team in place by the start of its spring meetings next week in West Palm Beach, Fla.
With the new offices reportedly set to be in New York City, hiring an executive from baseball or basketball would fit into the geographical profile the new league wants. With a salary range that could be as high as $1 million per year, the talent pool, even at the lucrative baseball and basketball executive range."
“@blauds: Big East closing in on its commissioner. WCC's Zaninovich looks like leader in the clubhouse http://ajerseyguy.com (http://ajerseyguy.com)”
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They might want Brosnan but I know from very reliable people he won't take the job.
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This guy has been spot on re: evolution of new BE, but he really rips GT in this article;
“@blauds: Big East commissioner search looks and feels like a Georgetown operation http://ajerseyguy.com (http://ajerseyguy.com)”
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His anti-Georgetown rant seems a bit laden with agenda. Criticizing the timing of the announcement because of the Newtown incident as if it was some sort of slight? C'mon.
I also don't believe we should have waited another year to save some money. We signed a great contract with Fox. If we waited another year, we likely would lose the MSG deal we have locked up for the next 12 seasons.
Maybe they are looking at some Georgetown guys, but I don't necessarily think that is a horrible thing. Successful school with good basketball history. IMO things are going just about as well as we could ask for this far in the rebuild of our conference.
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Chicago Mayor announces they aree building 300 million dollar 13k seat DePaul Arena in downtown Chicago. Wow. DePaul stepping up to the plate BIG time.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/13/chicago-mayor-expected-to-announce-plans-for-300-million-depaul-arena/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/13/chicago-mayor-expected-to-announce-plans-for-300-million-depaul-arena/)
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Chicago Mayor announces they aree building 300 million dollar 13k seat DePaul Arena in downtown Chicago. Wow. DePaul stepping up to the plate BIG time.
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/13/chicago-mayor-expected-to-announce-plans-for-300-million-depaul-arena/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/13/chicago-mayor-expected-to-announce-plans-for-300-million-depaul-arena/)
It can only help them.
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"AMELIA ISLAND, Fla. -- The ACC is "thoroughly investigating" playing its men's basketball tournament at Madison Square Garden, sources told ESPN on Tuesday.
One source was adamant that the ACC tournament eventually would be held in the World's Most Famous Arena, which would take it out of traditional ACC country for the first time.
"We'll be playing there," a source said. "It's just a matter of getting all the legal ramifications worked out."
That's because in March, the new Big East Conference and Madison Square Garden announced a 12-year deal through 2026. However, MSG executive vice president Joel Fisher was non-committal about the ACC playing there.
"I don't want to speculate about (the ACC)," Fisher said in March.
Sources said MSG can get out of its deal before 2026 if the new Big East doesn't reach certain benchmarks. That would open the door for the ACC, which is holding its spring meetings in Amelia Island.
"There is real momentum to play the tournament at Madison Square Garden," a source said. "Why shouldn't the premier basketball conference play in the world's premier arena?"
“@McMurphyESPN: ACC looking into playing hoops tourney at MSG sources told @ESPN http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9278832/acc-investigating-playing-conference-tournament-madison-square-garden-sources-say (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9278832/acc-investigating-playing-conference-tournament-madison-square-garden-sources-say)”
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These bastards are so arrogant.
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Benchmarks?
Building holds what? 18k. Split that up 10 or 12 ways and your not talking about a lot of tickets. Selling tickets should NEVER be a concern.
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Benchmarks?
Building holds what? 18k. Split that up 10 or 12 ways and your not talking about a lot of tickets. Selling tickets should NEVER be a concern.
It is all the more reason why SJU among others need to establish themselves as national programs again. And quickly. You guys can talk all you want about the Creighton's of the world but it aint Louisville or Syracuse in NYC.
I was talking to a local writer about scheduling dilemmas next year. Picture this, a Saturday in January, Syracuse vs Duke at the Dome. Louisville and UCONN at Hartford and Creighton visiting SJU at MSG. Where you headed that weekend? All 3 have appeal but right now the SJU game is third in terms of national appeal.
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Instead, how about Syracuse vs Wake Forest, Tulane vs UCONN, Creighton visiting SJU at MSG (both should be top 25), where are you heading
that weekend. Only one has any appeal in terms of national interest.
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Instead, how about Syracuse vs Wake Forest, Tulane vs UCONN, Creighton visiting SJU at MSG (both should be top 25), where are you heading
that weekend. Only one has any appeal in terms of national interest.
Good point. Top team vs. Top teams the ACC has an advantage over basically every conference in America, but at the middle levels it's much more muddled especially even now that the ACC's geographic rivalries have been upended.
As far as the conference tournaments go, the Big East's new commissioner better work his tail off making sure that we retain MSG. That's super important. It's not a surprise, but still disappointing to some saber-rattling by unnamed ACC sources.
The football re-alignment issues and ramifications continue give us diaper-rash.
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Instead, how about Syracuse vs Wake Forest, Tulane vs UCONN, Creighton visiting SJU at MSG (both should be top 25), where are you heading
that weekend. Only one has any appeal in terms of national interest.
Creighton/SJU is the better game but hardly the national appeal if SU-Duke or UCONN/VILLE.
And again right now the top teams in the ACC are better then the new BE and that is before Louisville shows up.
Now you know why MSG is looking at the ACC. SJU should be good and they better be good and now need to consistently be good or the new conference won't get it done.
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Instead, how about Syracuse vs Wake Forest, Tulane vs UCONN, Creighton visiting SJU at MSG (both should be top 25), where are you heading
that weekend. Only one has any appeal in terms of national interest.
Creighton/SJU is the better game but hardly the national appeal if SU-Duke or UCONN/VILLE.
And again right now the top teams in the ACC are better then the new BE and that is before Louisville shows up.
Now you know why MSG is looking at the ACC. SJU should be good and they better be good and now need to consistently be good or the new conference won't get it done.
It's definitely game-time for the Big East Conference members. They have to do well in the non-conference match-ups this year and then represent well in the NCAAs.
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Instead, how about Syracuse vs Wake Forest, Tulane vs UCONN, Creighton visiting SJU at MSG (both should be top 25), where are you heading
that weekend. Only one has any appeal in terms of national interest.
Creighton/SJU is the better game but hardly the national appeal if SU-Duke or UCONN/VILLE.
And again right now the top teams in the ACC are better then the new BE and that is before Louisville shows up.
Now you know why MSG is looking at the ACC. SJU should be good and they better be good and now need to consistently be good or the new conference won't get it done.
Your last line is oh so important for the new league.
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bk8664 That's how the original Big East got it done
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Instead, how about Syracuse vs Wake Forest, Tulane vs UCONN, Creighton visiting SJU at MSG (both should be top 25), where are you heading
that weekend. Only one has any appeal in terms of national interest.
Good point. Top team vs. Top teams the ACC has an advantage over basically every conference in America, but at the middle levels it's much more muddled especially even now that the ACC's geographic rivalries have been upended.
As far as the conference tournaments go, the Big East's new commissioner better work his tail off making sure that we retain MSG. That's super important. It's not a surprise, but still disappointing to some saber-rattling by unnamed ACC sources.
The football re-alignment issues and ramifications continue give us diaper-rash.
You are defined as a conference by your top teams. Period.
The new BE is not going to be perceived as good because they have a bunch of NCAA bubble teams. They will be defined as good because SJU, Marquette, Georgetown and Villanova effectively replaced Syracuse, UCONN, VILLE and Pitt as NATIONAL powers.
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A top level commissioner is something the League needs to squash these things. And I can't help but wonder if this is out there to speed along the hiring process and get a top honcho on board ASAP.
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Instead, how about Syracuse vs Wake Forest, Tulane vs UCONN, Creighton visiting SJU at MSG (both should be top 25), where are you heading
that weekend. Only one has any appeal in terms of national interest.
Good point. Top team vs. Top teams the ACC has an advantage over basically every conference in America, but at the middle levels it's much more muddled especially even now that the ACC's geographic rivalries have been upended.
As far as the conference tournaments go, the Big East's new commissioner better work his tail off making sure that we retain MSG. That's super important. It's not a surprise, but still disappointing to some saber-rattling by unnamed ACC sources.
The football re-alignment issues and ramifications continue give us diaper-rash.
You are defined as a conference by your top teams. Period.
The new BE is not going to be perceived as good because they have a bunch of NCAA bubble teams. They will be defined as good because SJU, Marquette, Georgetown and Villanova effectively replaced Syracuse, UCONN, VILLE and Pitt as NATIONAL powers.
"You are defined as a conference by your top teams. Period."
I disagree with this statement. Top teams certainly are important to a conference's overall prestige, but the middle and the bottom are also important. Take a look at the SEC. They have two top-end players like Kentucky and FL and yet their conference is perceived as being at a lower-level than some of the other major conferences like the the old Big East or the Big 10. The reason is because the old Big East and the Big 10 offer tough teams to play most nights. That's not so in the SEC and even the ACC was viewed lower than us because it was garbage other than Duke, UNC and some other team rotating in 3rd place... Middle level teams and lower level teams matter. Success by the #7 seed from a conference making to the sweet 16 in the NCAAs brings prestige to a conference even if they don't make it to the elite 8 or final 4. It is not only about the top couple of teams in each conference; all the teams matter.
That being said, my disagreement with your statement wasn't what my original point was trying to get to. I was trying to make the point, along with the previous message in the thread, that a SJU vs. Villanova game can have as much appeal to TV networks as any other game, other than the obvious Duke vs. Cuse or UNC vs. Louisville type of game. And guess what?....That's ok. It's been that way for quite while now. Just because we don't have the #2 vs. #4 teams in the country doesn't mean we don't have prestige in our conference and doesn't mean we can't have national interest in our games or get solid TV ratings.
If the new Big East wants itself be viewed as a true big boy on the block - say as the 3rd best conference in American, then certainly our teams will need to raise their profile and we definitely will need 1 or 2 of our conference members to become perennial top 10 teams.
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A top level commissioner is something the League needs to squash these things. And I can't help but wonder if this is out there to speed along the hiring process and get a top honcho on board ASAP.
Absolutely, this is the point where an in-place commissioner would make an off the cuff remark in an obnoxious and snarky way that the Big East has a deal with MSG well into the 2020s and we will certainly will meet all performance requirements of our contract.
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A lotta wisdom bein brought to the forefront here not the least by moon, Fordham and the bk.
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This makes e sense. ACC can't just waltz in when they want. Agree we need a commissioner sooner than later though.
" MSG is unlikely going to go with a conference that would only make a cameo in the building every so often. The ACC is not going to move the conference tournament out of North Carolina (Greensboro or Charlotte) for more than one year every three or four years. If MSG wanted to maximize the opportunity it has in front of it then it should get the Big East to move its tournament to early in championship week and take the ACC the latter part of the week. If not, then the ACC has to see if it can wedge its way into the Barclays Center in Brooklyn around the A-10, or push the A-10 to play earlier in the week. Meanwhile, as expected, C-USA voted Wednesday at its league meetings to have all 16 teams go to the 2014 C-USA tournament in El Paso."
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This makes e sense. ACC can't just waltz in when they want. Agree we need a commissioner sooner than later though.
" MSG is unlikely going to go with a conference that would only make a cameo in the building every so often. The ACC is not going to move the conference tournament out of North Carolina (Greensboro or Charlotte) for more than one year every three or four years. If MSG wanted to maximize the opportunity it has in front of it then it should get the Big East to move its tournament to early in championship week and take the ACC the latter part of the week. If not, then the ACC has to see if it can wedge its way into the Barclays Center in Brooklyn around the A-10, or push the A-10 to play earlier in the week. Meanwhile, as expected, C-USA voted Wednesday at its league meetings to have all 16 teams go to the 2014 C-USA tournament in El Paso."
I doubt we will move over to try to accommodate the ACC in any way when it comes to MSG. Certainly need a commish soon though. Need to have unifying force to our conference to spearhead all of our efforts. It needs to be somebody Who is a shark and willing to take on guys like Swofford and the repugnant ACC.
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It's programs like ours that would make an ACC MSG tournament possible. With the exception of STJ, SH and Depaul every other BE team has towed the line in March.
It's time for us to man up and contribute something. Or we don't have a right to claim we belong at MSG.
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bunk
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bunk
Poppycock!
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“@MarquetteMBB: #mubb's Chris Otule (@Tule42) officially granted sixth year of eligibility by the NCAA for 2013-14 campaign.”
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“@VUhoops: Butler to spend $34m on Hinkle Fieldhouse. What should Villanova do with The Pavilion? http://sbn.to/10L1Stl (http://sbn.to/10L1Stl)”
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Marquette
Best fan bases in college hoops-
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/29/study-says-louisville-has-college-basketballs-best-fanbase-kentucky-7th/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/29/study-says-louisville-has-college-basketballs-best-fanbase-kentucky-7th/)
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How is it possible that they haven't hired a commissioner yet?
As a basketball fan, it bothers me. But if I played or coach in any of soccer or any of the other fall sports, I'd be pretty pissed that the presidents are dragging their feet on this.
The presidents need to hire someone they entrust to make decisions that frankly they don't know enough about (media rights, licensing agreements, all this IP nonsense; plus the logistical decisions of scheduling, rules, and officiating).
But it sounds like they're looking for someone who doesn't have a big enough personality, and won't be given the authority, to make any meaningful decisions unilaterally.
I think that's a mistake. Oversight is fine, but they have to recognize they aren't experts in this field. Find someone who is, and take his advice.
I hope they listen to Tagliabue, he may be a Hoya, but he obviously knows the sports business industry as well as anyone.
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How is it possible that they haven't hired a commissioner yet?
As a basketball fan, it bothers me. But if I played or coach in any of soccer or any of the other fall sports, I'd be pretty pissed that the presidents are dragging their feet on this.
The presidents need to hire someone they entrust to make decisions that frankly they don't know enough about (media rights, licensing agreements, all this IP nonsense; plus the logistical decisions of scheduling, rules, and officiating).
But it sounds like they're looking for someone who doesn't have a big enough personality, and won't be given the authority, to make any meaningful decisions unilaterally.
I think that's a mistake. Oversight is fine, but they have to recognize they aren't experts in this field. Find someone who is, and take his advice.
I hope they listen to Tagliabue, he may be a Hoya, but he obviously knows the sports business industry as well as anyone.
Agree it is time to move on this. Saw Stu Jackson's name out there today. Not sure he is answer either.
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Agree it is time to move on this. Saw Stu Jackson's name out there today. Not sure he is answer either.
I seen what Stu did wit the Knicks.
No.
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The Hoyas recruit methodically and well, especially big folks;
“@CasualHoya: Whispers on the Recruiting Circuit: Could This Be The Next Great Hoya Frontcourt? http://sbn.to/12TiHVy (http://sbn.to/12TiHVy)”
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“@STJ_Basketball: Follow the BIG EAST's new Twitter accounts: @bigeastconf @BIGEASTChamps
@BIGEASTMBB @BIGEASTWBB #stjbb”
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“@CasualHoya: Hoyas Recruiting Update: New Coaching Staff = New Targets? (HT @Hoyas247) http://sbn.to/116NhNR (http://sbn.to/116NhNR)”
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Can they hire a freakin commissioner already?
These school presidents and ADs knew in January that they were going to start a new league after the season, they must have had a "short list" prepared months ago, so what's the hold up? Interview 3 or 4, and pick the guy you like. I really don't understand what they're doing here by waiting.
This new league still needs a league office, staff, etc etc Get a commish on board so he can get to work.
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Can they hire a freakin commissioner already?
These school presidents and ADs knew in January that they were going to start a new league after the season, they must have had a "short list" prepared months ago, so what's the hold up? Interview 3 or 4, and pick the guy you like. I really don't understand what they're doing here by waiting.
This new league still needs a league office, staff, etc etc Get a commish on board so he can get to work.
Has anyone heard if Georgetown's Josh Smith will have 1 or 2 years eligibility after transferring from UCLA? He played only 4 games before quitting the Bruins last year (his Jr. Season) - I know they changed the rules and that should now be enuf to have taken his 3rd year of eligibilty, but there was talk of filing for a MEDICAL redshirt - that he didn't play the year and transferred due to a medical condition - an eating disorder, morbid obesity - and could be granted an additional year of eligibility at Georgetown.
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Interesting to see Marquette's big man recruiting targets in 14 & 15. They face same challenge as St.J.;
“@PaintTouches: [NEW TO PT] #mubb is recruiting the center position hard, knowing it's a void they must fill next season and beyond: http://bit.ly/18T5XFT (http://bit.ly/18T5XFT)”
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"2. Providence College coach Ed Cooley said he called as many schools as possible and could not schedule a home-and-home game out of the region. Providence has consistently had issues trying to get games, regardless of who their head coach is. There have been a few series with schools like Alabama and Texas, due to the connection of former coach Rick Barnes. PC also had one with Wichita State. That's why Cooley had to think out of the box with the new 18-game, round-robin Big East schedule. The Friars play Boston College at home, go to UMass (because Cooley said he was convinced the Minutemen would be a high RPI game), play Kentucky at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn and have the annual series with Rhode Island (this time in Kingston). They will also play in the Paradise Jam in St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands, against Vanderbilt and with La Salle as a possibility in the second round (Explorers play Morgan State). Maryland is on the other side of the bracket (with Northern Iowa as another player on that side). The Friars reached the NIT quarterfinals before losing to Baylor. Kris Dunn and Bryce Cotton give the Friars a shot to get back to the postseason and Cooley did a solid job of building a legitimate schedule to make the Friars potentially matter in March."
“@eamonnbrennan: 3-point shot: Memphis' veteran coaches http://es.pn/11v43CQ (http://es.pn/11v43CQ)”
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Whoa!
“@CasualHoya: Greg Whittington Could Miss Entire Season With Knee Injury: http://sbn.to/1bPKkm9 (http://sbn.to/1bPKkm9)”
"HOWEVER, if it is indeed a torn ACL then Whittington is done for the season. This injury, coupled with a looming NCAA ruling that will likely limit Josh Smith's eligibility in blue and gray to either the second semester of the upcoming season OR the full season of the next, could send what is already a fanbase known for its cynicism to levels not seen since Nikita Mesheriakov hit the side of the backboard off of a designed play in the 1st round of a 2009 Big East Tournament against St. John's and sending the Hoyas into the NIT.
Brace yourselves, Hoyas fans."
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“@DraftExpress: Ryan Arcidiacono, Damyean Dotson, James Robinson and Marcus Georges-Hunt the last four cut from @usabasketball's U19 World Championship team”
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no more conjecture;
“@CasualHoya: Source: Greg Whittington has a torn ACL and is out for the year. http://www.casualhoya.com/2013/6/17/4438116/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-knee-injury (http://www.casualhoya.com/2013/6/17/4438116/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-knee-injury)”
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no more conjecture;
“@CasualHoya: Source: Greg Whittington has a torn ACL and is out for the year. http://www.casualhoya.com/2013/6/17/4438116/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-knee-injury (http://www.casualhoya.com/2013/6/17/4438116/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-knee-injury)”
Oh that sucks. Is he the guy who was suspended for our game?
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no more conjecture;
“@CasualHoya: Source: Greg Whittington has a torn ACL and is out for the year. http://www.casualhoya.com/2013/6/17/4438116/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-knee-injury (http://www.casualhoya.com/2013/6/17/4438116/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-knee-injury)”
Oh that sucks. Is he the guy who was suspended for our game?
Yes and a nice player.
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Fwiw;
“@AdamZagoria: With no Greg Whittington, I would move Georgetown down in the Big East rankings, making Marquette No. 1 and SJU No. 2 http://zagsblog.com/articles/sny-big-east-preseason-rankings-all-big-east-teams-top-incoming-recruits/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/sny-big-east-preseason-rankings-all-big-east-teams-top-incoming-recruits/)”
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“@jeffborzello: 2015 big man Tim Delaney has committed to Villanova, sources told http://CBSSports.com (http://CBSSports.com): http://cbsprt.co/14KlgN0 (http://cbsprt.co/14KlgN0)”
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A Moose favorite;
"The Hoyas lone commitment in the 2013 class could make an earlier push for playing time than had been previously anticipated due to the bind Georgetown finds them in with Whittington's injury. Being noted as an "exceptional shooter" one could see how a player like Cameron could come in and be able to contribute in some capacity right away.
Sharp shooting freshman Reggie Cameron could come in and earn minutes right away.
One thing Cameron would bring to the table is the ability to rebound the basketball effectively. As a senior at Hudson Catholic Cameron averaged 10.1 rebounds and 20.1 points per game while shooting 50% from beyond the arc. That desire to hit the boards on offense and defense could be enough to help push Cameron's minutes up during his freshman campaign. It is important to note that the Hoyas did not only lose Whittington's 12 points per game but also the seven rebounds he'd average per contest."
The Hoyas lone commitment in the 2013 class could make an earlier push for playing time than had been previously anticipated due to the bind Georgetown finds them in with Whittington's injury. Being noted as an "exceptional shooter" one could see how a player like Cameron could come in and be able to contribute in some capacity right away.
“@CasualHoya: Picking Up The Pieces: Who Will Replace Greg Whittington? (HT @Hoyas247) http://sbn.to/195dMs4 (http://sbn.to/195dMs4)”
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He's no joke paultZ
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He's no joke paultZ
If you mean Reggie C, I like him a lot myself.
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Coach speak by John Thompson or is Smith committed to getting in shape?
“@JonRothstein: JT3 on Josh Smith "People have forgotten him because of him. He's going to be one of the best big men in the country next year."”
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It sucks that Whittington is out for year, I want all the schools to be at their best in our first year of new Big East
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Coach speak by John Thompson or is Smith committed to getting in shape?
“@JonRothstein: JT3 on Josh Smith "People have forgotten him because of him. He's going to be one of the best big men in the country next year."”
If he could do THAT, Ben Howland would still be coaching UCLA....
But if he really does, G'Town might coast to a league title. An in-shape Josh Smith would be as unstoppable as The Hulk - but JUST as unlikely to show up real life.
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“@GoodmanESPN: Sad, sad news that longtime Big East associate commissioner of communications John Paquette let go by Mike Aresco. Was w/league since 1990.”
“@BrendanPrunty: Hopefully new Big East does the right (and smart) thing and hires John Paquette yesterday. Would be an invaluable asset for a new league.”
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“@GoodmanESPN: Sad, sad news that longtime Big East associate commissioner of communications John Paquette let go by Mike Aresco. Was w/league since 1990.”
“@BrendanPrunty: Hopefully new Big East does the right (and smart) thing and hires John Paquette yesterday. Would be an invaluable asset for a new league.”
There are plenty of rumblings that a lot of BE ppl from Providence office will be coming to NY anyway so this might have already been in the hopper.
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Funny how Bigeast.org is now just an advertisement for the AAC. When do they give up the web address?
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Funny how Bigeast.org is now just an advertisement for the AAC. When do they give up the web address?
1st
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GT #2 on ESPN "Path to NBA Draft"
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/85801/path-to-the-draft-no-2-georgetown (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/85801/path-to-the-draft-no-2-georgetown)
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Late bloomer;
“@CBTonNBC: Villanova lands first commit for 2014 http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1XqH (http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1XqH)”
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“@ebosshoops: Commitment frenzy today. Sounds like Malek Harris is off the board to #Marquette.”
“@ebosshoops: Malek Harris will be moving into the national top 75 during tomorrow's update to the 2014 #Rivals150.”
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/161701/malek-harris (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/161701/malek-harris)
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“@eamonnbrennan: 3-point shot: 10 is right for new Big East http://es.pn/139i2U8 (http://es.pn/139i2U8)”
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“@STJ_Basketball: @BIGEASTConf member schools are in L.A. today to collaborate on TV strategies with @FOXSports1. Exciting day for the @BIGEASTConf! #stjbb”
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“@STJ_Basketball: @BIGEASTConf member schools are in L.A. today to collaborate on TV strategies with @FOXSports1. Exciting day for the @BIGEASTConf! #stjbb”
I will go out and stalk the 9 priests and 1 Prez LOL
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“@HolyLandofHoops: Fascinating (and long) article on the development of the new #BigEast: "How Creighton made it to the big time" http://www.omaha.com/article/20130630/NEWS/706309914/1685#big-east-how-creighton-made-it-to-the-big-time (http://www.omaha.com/article/20130630/NEWS/706309914/1685#big-east-how-creighton-made-it-to-the-big-time)”
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“@ebosshoops: Commitment frenzy today. Sounds like Malek Harris is off the board to #Marquette.”
“@ebosshoops: Malek Harris will be moving into the national top 75 during tomorrow's update to the 2014 #Rivals150.”
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/161701/malek-harris (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/161701/malek-harris)
Buzz getting it done and stockpiling top 100 talent. Great to see for the new be. I picture them, gtown and us being the top 3 for the new league
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“@ebosshoops: Commitment frenzy today. Sounds like Malek Harris is off the board to #Marquette.”
“@ebosshoops: Malek Harris will be moving into the national top 75 during tomorrow's update to the 2014 #Rivals150.”
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/161701/malek-harris (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/161701/malek-harris)
Buzz getting it done and stockpiling top 100 talent. Great to see for the new be. I picture them, gtown and us being the top 3 for the new league
Agree. I'd add Nova to that. They too are drawing nice talent there. Those four teams I think will be the heavyweights. Butler, Creighton Providence, Xavier will also get better with more talent and recruiting to boost their rosters. Very excited about this league.
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“@ebosshoops: Commitment frenzy today. Sounds like Malek Harris is off the board to #Marquette.”
“@ebosshoops: Malek Harris will be moving into the national top 75 during tomorrow's update to the 2014 #Rivals150.”
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/161701/malek-harris (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/161701/malek-harris)
Buzz getting it done and stockpiling top 100 talent. Great to see for the new be. I picture them, gtown and us being the top 3 for the new league
Agree. I'd add Nova to that. They too are drawing nice talent there. Those four teams I think will be the heavyweights. Butler, Creighton Providence, Xavier will also get better with more talent and recruiting to boost their rosters. Very excited about this league.
Yes Nova too. Anyway you slice it this league should have 5-6 NCAA teams and a lot of fun basketball.
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Nice game for BE;
“@PaintTouches: Get those calendars out: Ohio State at Marquette on Nov. 16 per tOSU release. #mubb”
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Laudable, sensible initial goals from Commish;
“@WeAreDePaul: A Letter From BIG EAST Commissioner Val Ackerman - DePaul University Official Athletic Site http://fw.to/uVncCUP (http://fw.to/uVncCUP) #dpubb”
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For fellow hoops junkies! I notified site to include Johnny Jungle on resource list.
“@whitebluereview: Welcome to the new Big East. Here is the comprehensive Must Follow List for the league. http://whiteandbluereview.com/?p=24888 (http://whiteandbluereview.com/?p=24888)”
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I would have told Cuse to buzz off
Stanford Univ. over the weekend “traded” its @SUAthletics Twitter handle to Syracuse Univ. in exchange for a collection of local goods to be named later. Stanford was able to part with the handle after its @GoStanford became more popular as the official handle and hashtag (Stanford).
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I would have told Cuse to buzz off
Stanford Univ. over the weekend “traded” its @SUAthletics Twitter handle to Syracuse Univ. in exchange for a collection of local goods to be named later. Stanford was able to part with the handle after its @GoStanford became more popular as the official handle and hashtag (Stanford).
They should have given it to Southern University.
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Johnny Thunder working out?
“@eamonnbrennan: Even Butler Blue III has a montage http://es.pn/14MQ8Kq (http://es.pn/14MQ8Kq)”
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Expected, but huge, nice PG;
OMAHA, Neb. -- Men's basketball guard Grant Gibbs has been awarded a sixth season of eligibility, Creighton University was notified by the NCAA today.
Gibbs led the Missouri Valley Conference in assists each of the last two seasons and will be a senior for the Bluejays in 2013-14. With Gibbs in the line-up the past two seasons, Creighton is 57-14 and is one of 13 teams to earn NCAA Tournament victories in both campaigns.
The Marion, Iowa, native averaged 8.5 points, 5.8 assists and 4.1 rebounds per game last season, when he joined Syracuse's Michael Carter-Williams as the nation's only players with at least 300 points, 200 assists and 145 rebounds.
Gibbs' return gives Creighton four returning starters from a team that went 28-8 last season and swept MVC regular-season and tournament titles in 2012-13.
“@gocreighton: GRANTED! Creighton Basketball's Gibbs earns sixth year! http://ow.ly/mAL8w (http://ow.ly/mAL8w)”
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Expected, but huge, nice PG;
OMAHA, Neb. -- Men's basketball guard Grant Gibbs has been awarded a sixth season of eligibility, Creighton University was notified by the NCAA today.
Gibbs led the Missouri Valley Conference in assists each of the last two seasons and will be a senior for the Bluejays in 2013-14. With Gibbs in the line-up the past two seasons, Creighton is 57-14 and is one of 13 teams to earn NCAA Tournament victories in both campaigns.
The Marion, Iowa, native averaged 8.5 points, 5.8 assists and 4.1 rebounds per game last season, when he joined Syracuse's Michael Carter-Williams as the nation's only players with at least 300 points, 200 assists and 145 rebounds.
Gibbs' return gives Creighton four returning starters from a team that went 28-8 last season and swept MVC regular-season and tournament titles in 2012-13.
“@gocreighton: GRANTED! Creighton Basketball's Gibbs earns sixth year! http://ow.ly/mAL8w (http://ow.ly/mAL8w)”
WTH?
They didn't wait until February to make a ruling?
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You heard it here first-Creighton wins first new BE regular season title! BE T another story. (BE schools traveling to Nebraska for the first time will find it hard to ignore all the distractions what with all the trappings offered by Omaha, Nebraska. Crieghton is in Omaha, Nebraska isn't it?) :crazy2:
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“@mswissbeats: With no Ricky Ledo and Vincent Council gone to graduation, the time is now for Providence's Kris Dunn to step up. http://collegechalktalk.com/?p=7080 (http://collegechalktalk.com/?p=7080)”
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Warren Buffett just renewed his season tickets;
“@JonRothstein: Grant Gibbs' return doesn't take away the big questions surrounding Creighton in the Big East? Will they be able to defend + rebound?”
“@ESPNAndyKatz: “@ESPNDanaOneil: Grant Gibbs gets sixth year at Creighton. Bluejays early (and first offiical) Big East favorite?” I would say so.”
“@tsnmike: Lotta Creighton-as-Big-East-favorite love with Grant Gibbs back. Happy for him. Still prefer Marquette.”
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Warren Buffett just renewed his season tickets;
“@JonRothstein: Grant Gibbs' return doesn't take away the big questions surrounding Creighton in the Big East? Will they be able to defend + rebound?”
“@ESPNAndyKatz: “@ESPNDanaOneil: Grant Gibbs gets sixth year at Creighton. Bluejays early (and first offiical) Big East favorite?” I would say so.”
“@tsnmike: Lotta Creighton-as-Big-East-favorite love with Grant Gibbs back. Happy for him. Still prefer Marquette.”
With or without them I don't think they are the favorite, and I know who DEFINITELY doesn't think they are ;).
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Warren Buffett just renewed his season tickets;
“@JonRothstein: Grant Gibbs' return doesn't take away the big questions surrounding Creighton in the Big East? Will they be able to defend + rebound?”
“@ESPNAndyKatz: “@ESPNDanaOneil: Grant Gibbs gets sixth year at Creighton. Bluejays early (and first offiical) Big East favorite?” I would say so.”
“@tsnmike: Lotta Creighton-as-Big-East-favorite love with Grant Gibbs back. Happy for him. Still prefer Marquette.”
With or without them I don't think they are the favorite, and I know who DEFINITELY doesn't think they are ;).
To me who is favorite is not important. This league is going to be highly competitive. Who comes out on top is anyone's guess. Every game will be a war. SH & DP will also knock off some teams. Should be a lot of fun and beats playing SMU, Central Florid, Eastern Carolina, etc. Can't wait!
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Warren Buffett just renewed his season tickets;
“@JonRothstein: Grant Gibbs' return doesn't take away the big questions surrounding Creighton in the Big East? Will they be able to defend + rebound?”
“@ESPNAndyKatz: “@ESPNDanaOneil: Grant Gibbs gets sixth year at Creighton. Bluejays early (and first offiical) Big East favorite?” I would say so.”
“@tsnmike: Lotta Creighton-as-Big-East-favorite love with Grant Gibbs back. Happy for him. Still prefer Marquette.”
With or without them I don't think they are the favorite, and I know who DEFINITELY doesn't think they are ;).
The who that DEFINITELY doesn't think they are is the main reason I think they are! :) :) :)
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“@EvanDanielsFOX: LJ Peak has committed to Georgetown. Scout's No. 68 ranked player.”
2014 SF
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Feed this guy and he loves your team;
“@JonRothstein: The latest @WFAN660 features Five Observations From Providence http://cbsloc.al/16O1Y8T (http://cbsloc.al/16O1Y8T)”
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Feed this guy and he loves your team;
“@JonRothstein: The latest @WFAN660 features Five Observations From Providence http://cbsloc.al/16O1Y8T (http://cbsloc.al/16O1Y8T)”
When the Providence's board see this they'll declare a National Championship
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Feed this guy and he loves your team;
“@JonRothstein: The latest @WFAN660 features Five Observations From Providence http://cbsloc.al/16O1Y8T (http://cbsloc.al/16O1Y8T)”
When the Providence's board see this they'll declare a National Championship
I like Rothstein, but he is the ultimate pre-season dreamer.
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Brad Stevens leaving Butler to coach the Celtics, big blow to the conference
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http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/070313-celtics-hire-brad-stevens-head-coach (http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/070313-celtics-hire-brad-stevens-head-coach)
Wow...
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Wow is right.
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i can't see him in the nba. everyone thought it would be duke. maybe will be like pitino, terrible in the nba but great college coach.
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On the surface that is a big loss for the Big East.
Butler has been like Xavier in terms of producing really good coaches who move on to bigger jobs, Stevens, Lickliter and Matta.
For the sake of the new BE I hope their luck continues.
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it's time for Butler to step up now with a high profile hire.
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it's time for Butler to step up now with a high profile hire.
not the Butler way
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Ben Howland?
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it's time for Butler to step up now with a high profile hire.
not the Butler way
it better be if they think they're big time.
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On the surface that is a big loss for the Big East.
Butler has been like Xavier in terms of producing really good coaches who move on to bigger jobs, Stevens, Lickliter and Matta.
For the sake of the new BE I hope their luck continues.
They were good before Stevens thought not as good. Just ask John Minko.
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Feed this guy and he loves your team;
“@JonRothstein: The latest @WFAN660 features Five Observations From Providence http://cbsloc.al/16O1Y8T (http://cbsloc.al/16O1Y8T)”
When the Providence's board see this they'll declare a National Championship
Maybe shurinaCheese was on to something or on something.
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it's time for Butler to step up now with a high profile hire.
not the Butler way
it better be if they think they're big time.
No offense but questioning their hiring principles might be a bit much. They do have 3 solid hires in a row. Multiple 25 win seasons and oh I don't know. 2 final fours?
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“@jeffborzello: Butler's perennial success won't disappear with the departure of Brad Stevens. My take: http://cbsprt.co/1aDKMrt (http://cbsprt.co/1aDKMrt)”
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“@jeffborzello: Butler's perennial success won't disappear with the departure of Brad Stevens. My take: http://cbsprt.co/1aDKMrt (http://cbsprt.co/1aDKMrt)”
The only thing I would say about previous success is they are not in the Horizon League or the A-10 anymore.
Now I love Brad Stevens and to me he would win in any conference but Butler is stepping up in class or at least we hope they are and Brad Stevens' and Thad Matta's don't grow on trees.
Put it to you another way let's assume Butler was joining the Big 10 and not the new BE. And they are going up against Matta, Izzo, Beilein, Ryan, etc. and Stevens is leaving. They could say "Hey we know how to do it we did it before" or they could say "Our previous hires were in the context of the Horizon NOT the Big 10. We may have to think bigger."
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it's time for Butler to step up now with a high profile hire.
not the Butler way
it better be if they think they're big time.
No offense but questioning their hiring principles might be a bit much. They do have 3 solid hires in a row. Multiple 25 win seasons and oh I don't know. 2 final fours?
I agree, they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But, to be fair the Lichleter hire doesn't look as spectacular as it did when he first moved up to the Big 10. He was below .500 all 3 seasons at Iowa.
But Matta and Stevens were home runs, no doubt.
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“@jeffborzello: Butler's perennial success won't disappear with the departure of Brad Stevens. My take: http://cbsprt.co/1aDKMrt (http://cbsprt.co/1aDKMrt)”
The only thing I would say about previous success is they are not in the Horizon League or the A-10 anymore.
Now I love Brad Stevens and to me he would win in any conference but Butler is stepping up in class or at least we hope they are and Brad Stevens' and Thad Matta's don't grow on trees.
Put it to you another way let's assume Butler was joining the Big 10 and not the new BE. And they are going up against Matta, Izzo, Beilein, Ryan, etc. and Stevens is leaving. They could say "Hey we know how to do it we did it before" or they could say "Our previous hires were in the context of the Horizon NOT the Big 10. We may have to think bigger."
Gene Hackman?
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it's time for Butler to step up now with a high profile hire.
not the Butler way
It probably was not in the budget for them to do that in the past, Choz. Now, it very well could be.
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I hear Mike Dunlap is available ...
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I hear Mike Dunlap is available ...
He's not willing to recruit so I doubt he will go back to college in a head coaching role.
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In recent years has Stevens been the primary recruiter for the program? Or do they have an ace assistant that does their recruiting?
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it's time for Butler to step up now with a high profile hire.
not the Butler way
it better be if they think they're big time.
No offense but questioning their hiring principles might be a bit much. They do have 3 solid hires in a row. Multiple 25 win seasons and oh I don't know. 2 final fours?
I agree, they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But, to be fair the Lichleter hire doesn't look as spectacular as it did when he first moved up to the Big 10. He was below .500 all 3 seasons at Iowa.
But Matta and Stevens were home runs, no doubt.
But he was a Home Run at Butler that's the point. As for where they choose to go after that's a different ballgame.
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“@ESPNAndyKatz: http://ESPN.com (http://ESPN.com) has learned that Butler will act extremely fast to fill Stevens' spot. Assistants are in play to replace him.”
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“@ESPNAndyKatz: http://ESPN.com (http://ESPN.com) has learned that Butler will act extremely fast to fill Stevens' spot. Assistants are in play to replace him.”
I'd hate to see a domino effect if they pluck another HC from a college this late in the game.
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Larry Brown interested.
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Larry Brown interested.
Hahaha
When will that s-bag just go away.
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Why should Butler change their system if it's working?
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Headed to Boston. Interesting to see how Butler responds.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/9448871/brad-stevens-hired-boston-celtics-head-coach (http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/9448871/brad-stevens-hired-boston-celtics-head-coach)
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Why should Butler change their system if it's working?
Because working in the Horizon or the A-10 is one thing but it ain't what we envision for the BE.
We all hope the new Big East becomes one of the power conferences.
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Not good. Very difficult to replace.
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Larry Brown interested.
better than isaiah thomas.
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Tough loss, but Butler will be fine. They were good before Stevens, even if not THIS good, and have nice infrastructure of success being built there in Indiana. They'll need to hire the right guy and maybe that is one if the assistants, but it will come down to them recruiting at a higher level anyway.
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Why should Butler change their system if it's working?
Because working in the Horizon or the A-10 is one thing but it ain't what we envision for the BE.
We all hope the new Big East becomes one of the power conferences.
I don't think we can say for certain that a big name is the answer for them. What Stevens built, he built in part because he wasn't a name. He was a really young guy with an eye for talent, and a terrific system.
For Butler, that recipe has worked over the years. Under Stevens, it work famously, but it's not like his assistants are completely unaware of how it's done. Larry Brown, I see someone mentioned above would probably be a disaster. He should be retired now.
I think Butler should be searching for the next Brad Stevens. Changing the recipe now when it's worked so well would be a disaster IMO.
We'll see soon enough.
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Why should Butler change their system if it's working?
Because working in the Horizon or the A-10 is one thing but it ain't what we envision for the BE.
We all hope the new Big East becomes one of the power conferences.
I don't think we can say for certain that a big name is the answer for them. What Stevens built, he built in part because he wasn't a name. He was a really young guy with an eye for talent, and a terrific system.
For Butler, that recipe has worked over the years. Under Stevens, it work famously, but it's not like his assistants are completely unaware of how it's done. Larry Brown, I see someone mentioned above would probably be a disaster. He should be retired now.
I think Butler should be searching for the next Brad Stevens. Changing the recipe now when it's worked so well would be a disaster IMO.
We'll see soon enough.
Again it has worked in the context of hiring in the Horizon League when you are competing against Valpo and Detroit-Mercy.
But again let's say Butler left a year ago for the Big 10. And Stevens who had turned down all those BCS jobs leaves for UCLA this year.
Now Butler has to hire a coach. Do they go the same route and hire within? Maybe and maybe they are successful. But now they are competing against schools who when they hire coaches they are going to go get ESTABLISHED coaches with records in MOST cases.
In other words when Indiana was looking to hire a replacement for Sampson they went and hired Tom Crean from BCS school Marquette. When Illinois hired a coach after firing Bruce Weber they hired John Groce from Ohio who had just gone to the Sweet 16. When Ohio St fired Jim O'Brien they hired successful Xavier HC Thad Matta.
When ACC schools like Maryland and Virginia and NC St made hires they hired head coaches who had a record of success like Tony Bennett, Mark Gottfried and Mark Turgeon.
I use those conferences because they are BCS conferences that the new Big East hopes to compete with.
Again Butler has had a nice blueprint and it has worked. All I am saying is it has worked in the context of the Horizon League they have never had to hire a coach in the context of competing in a BCS conference.
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Why should Butler change their system if it's working?
Because working in the Horizon or the A-10 is one thing but it ain't what we envision for the BE.
We all hope the new Big East becomes one of the power conferences.
I don't think we can say for certain that a big name is the answer for them. What Stevens built, he built in part because he wasn't a name. He was a really young guy with an eye for talent, and a terrific system.
For Butler, that recipe has worked over the years. Under Stevens, it work famously, but it's not like his assistants are completely unaware of how it's done. Larry Brown, I see someone mentioned above would probably be a disaster. He should be retired now.
I think Butler should be searching for the next Brad Stevens. Changing the recipe now when it's worked so well would be a disaster IMO.
We'll see soon enough.
I posted Larry Brown as a joke. Know Moose got it.
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“@FriarFrenzy: Domestic assault/vandalism charges against LaDontae Henton dropped per ProJo, @KevinMcNamara33. #pcbb”
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M'Q recruits methodically and well;
"“I really like Marquette,” Cohen said during a break at the Kevin Durant Skills Academy. ”Right now Marquette’s probably my favorite. I just like the hometown, I really like Coach Buzz Williams, I just really like Marquette as a whole, as a college and everything.”
Cohen has a long way to go in his recruitment process and a longer way to go in his development as a player, but his skill set would fit in nicely with what Marquette, who is one of the program’s to have offered Cohen, likes to do. At 6-foot-5, Cohen is one of the more versatile wings in the country, capable enough of running the point that he’s said it’s the position that he would prefer to play in college. That wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing, either, as Cohen’s a willing passer and a competent creator. Williams seems to thrive on those guys.
He’s also a lanky, athletic defender that can make plays on that end of the floor, and if there is anything that we know about Buzz Williams, it’s that he requires his team to play hard on that end of the floor."
“@CBTonNBC: Top 100 recruit Sandy Cohen has 13 offers, but one program is standing out http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1Xzy (http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1Xzy)”
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Why should Butler change their system if it's working?
Because working in the Horizon or the A-10 is one thing but it ain't what we envision for the BE.
We all hope the new Big East becomes one of the power conferences.
I don't think we can say for certain that a big name is the answer for them. What Stevens built, he built in part because he wasn't a name. He was a really young guy with an eye for talent, and a terrific system.
For Butler, that recipe has worked over the years. Under Stevens, it work famously, but it's not like his assistants are completely unaware of how it's done. Larry Brown, I see someone mentioned above would probably be a disaster. He should be retired now.
I think Butler should be searching for the next Brad Stevens. Changing the recipe now when it's worked so well would be a disaster IMO.
We'll see soon enough.
Again it has worked in the context of hiring in the Horizon League when you are competing against Valpo and Detroit-Mercy.
But again let's say Butler left a year ago for the Big 10. And Stevens who had turned down all those BCS jobs leaves for UCLA this year.
Now Butler has to hire a coach. Do they go the same route and hire within? Maybe and maybe they are successful. But now they are competing against schools who when they hire coaches they are going to go get ESTABLISHED coaches with records in MOST cases.
In other words when Indiana was looking to hire a replacement for Sampson they went and hired Tom Crean from BCS school Marquette. When Illinois hired a coach after firing Bruce Weber they hired John Groce from Ohio who had just gone to the Sweet 16. When Ohio St fired Jim O'Brien they hired successful Xavier HC Thad Matta.
When ACC schools like Maryland and Virginia and NC St made hires they hired head coaches who had a record of success like Tony Bennett, Mark Gottfried and Mark Turgeon.
I use those conferences because they are BCS conferences that the new Big East hopes to compete with.
Again Butler has had a nice blueprint and it has worked. All I am saying is it has worked in the context of the Horizon League they have never had to hire a coach in the context of competing in a BCS conference.
If we look at Butler, and what Stevens has accomplished there, I think it's on par with what we've seen from Jim Calhoun and Coach K. While they haven't been a contender every season, the two consecutive years they went to the finals, they beat the snot out of several BCS programs.
Obviously, hiring a proven name is less of a risk, but I think Butler is different. With Stevens' success, they've entered a category that includes only them. If their success was mainly due to a weaker Horizon League schedule, their weaknesses would have been clear come March.
But instead, they proved that not only were they ready for the big time, but that they were as good anyone. Once, like a GMU, or a VCU, a case can be made that its a fluke. Twice, there is no dispute.
As far as Maryland, Virginia and NC State go I would put them in a category similar to us. They are trying to become a nationally recognized program again. Right now, it clear that Virginia is a bottom feeder.
They may get there eventually, but right now, despite their big name hires, they are not examples of success. Virginia was a hair better than us last year. Butler could have beaten both teams at the same time.
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“@zkeefer: Source tells The Star the vacant #Butler head coaching job will come down to Brandon Miller or LaVall Jordan.”
“@zkeefer: Miller interviewed with athletic director Barry Collier on Wednesday. Jordan is set to interview today, according to the source. #Butler”
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“@zkeefer: Source tells The Star the vacant #Butler head coaching job will come down to Brandon Miller or LaVall Jordan.”
“@zkeefer: Miller interviewed with athletic director Barry Collier on Wednesday. Jordan is set to interview today, according to the source. #Butler”
Being Trey Burke's position coach Michigan is a nice topper on Jordan's resume - but his 4 years as a starting guard at Butler (for Brad Collier and Thad Mata), 3 years as an assistant at Butler to Todd Lickliter (he went with Lickliter to Iowa in 2007), and now 4 years with Beilien at Michican is a heckuva resume. Butler wan'ts to keep it in family - Jordan is family.
Miller just rejoined the Butler staff in April, replacing Matthew Graves (he left for the head gig at South Alabama - reports are they reached out to him first, but he's going to honor the SA committment). Some Butler friends tell me that with Miller they need to feel out how that effects current assistants Terry Johnson and Michael Lewis - they hope to maintain some "Stevens" continuity thru the transition year (new coach, new conference) - they've got a 4 man frosh class coming in this year that COULD ask for their releases. Mater Dei (California) guard Elijah Brown, especially. Randy Bennett really wanted him at St. Mary's, but he opted to play for Brad Stevens. And St. Mary's just lost 2013 recruit (and former New Mexico Player of the Year) Cullen Neal - he was released from his LOI when his dad Craig got the Head Coaching job at New Mexico.
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
No. I don't think he was a big fan of recruiting, and would have bolted for any NBA job that would have carried a decent contract with it. Looking back now, I'm surprised this kind of thing didn't crop up as a rumor earlier.
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
I see it as Brad getting a 350% raise and wanting to set his family up for life.
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
I see it as Brad getting a 350% raise and wanting to set his family up for life.
Yep!
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
I see it as Brad getting a 350% raise and wanting to set his family up for life.
And he gets to coach an iconic sports franchise. Somehow even if the money was similar I don't think he would be leaving Butler for the Charlotte Bobcats.
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
I see it as Brad getting a 350% raise and wanting to set his family up for life.
Exactly!
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
It would've looked worse if he went to coach in another conference
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
It's the Boston Celtics. They're kind of a big deal.
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
It's the Boston Celtics. They're kind of a big deal.
So is UCLA and he didn't want that. I hope it is a money thing or a recruiting thing. It's just the way things have happened over the last few years with the conference stuff, I immediately think the worst. I was excited to see Butler join the new conference. Stevens leaving dampens that for me.
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Does anyone else see this as Brad not having much confidence in the new Big East and getting out before the super conferences end the NCAA as we know it?
I see it as Brad getting a 350% raise and wanting to set his family up for life.
Spot on--22 million reasons to make switch and if does not work out he would still be young, hot property in the college coaching ranks a la Patino and Calapari.
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Assistant coach miller promoted to HC at Butler.
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“@CBTonNBC: Report: Butler won't lose any recruits, transfers with coaching change http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1XDo (http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1XDo)”
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“@CasualHoya: Otto Porter signed his contract with the Wizards yesterday and banked a guaranteed $7,290,400 over the first two years.”
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Man these guys recruit bruisers;
“@CasualHoya: Hoyas Recruiting Update: The July "Live Period" Is Here (HT @Hoyas247) http://sbn.to/11ywLbx (http://sbn.to/11ywLbx)”
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“@eamonnbrennan: Take Two: Picking the Big East favorite http://es.pn/1aVMzbu (http://es.pn/1aVMzbu)”
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For shurina cheese;
“@PCAthletics: The 2013-14 Providence College Men's Basketball Team. http://twitter.com/PCAthletics/status/355027226816811008/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/PCAthletics/status/355027226816811008/photo/1)”
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Big get;
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Jalen Lindsey just committed to Providence, per his coach.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey)
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Big get;
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Jalen Lindsey just committed to Providence, per his coach.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey)
providence fans can annoy me even though some are my clients but I want them to do well and am happy to hear any of our conference teams getting big recruits right now
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Big get;
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Jalen Lindsey just committed to Providence, per his coach.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey)
providence fans can annoy me even though some are my clients but I want them to do well and am happy to hear any of our conference teams getting big recruits right now
Agree. Cooley deserves credit for getting on kids early and sticking with them. He may offer half the globe, but he does work hard and is making a big difference at Providence.
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Big get;
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Jalen Lindsey just committed to Providence, per his coach.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/117566/jalen-lindsey)
providence fans can annoy me even though some are my clients but I want them to do well and am happy to hear any of our conference teams getting big recruits right now
Agree. Cooley deserves credit for getting on kids early and sticking with them. He may offer half the globe, but he does work hard and is making a big difference at Providence.
He bothers me
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Lindsey is a big time pickup for them. Cooley is a good recruiter, hard worker and was a great hire for that program. Good for the Big East that Providence seeing a resurgence. Lindsey chose the friars over a lot of good programs.
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Lindsey is a big time pickup for them. Cooley is a good recruiter, hard worker and was a great hire for that program. Good for the Big East that Providence seeing a resurgence. Lindsey chose the friars over a lot of good programs.
“@FriarFrenzy: Jalen Lindsey's father on Ed Cooley & staff, "There's no other team that put in half the work that they've put in" per ESPN #pcbb”
Cooley landing Abu and/or Terrell would not surprise me.
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Cooley landing Abu and/or Terrell would not surprise me.
Maybe one. Both would put them over the salary cap.
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GT participating;
“@eamonnbrennan: Bracket reveal: Puerto Rico Tip-Off http://es.pn/1bkrDLm (http://es.pn/1bkrDLm)”
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“@insidethehall: Just checked in with Phil Booth. Confirmed IU in his final five along with Georgetown, Temple, Villanova and Virginia. #iubb”
4 Star PG.
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big ed cooley is the salt of the earth..works hard recruiting and coaching and kids connect to his hard backround. he is helping to elevate the new big east. hopefully we land terrell and abu from him.
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big ed cooley is the salt of the earth..works hard recruiting and coaching and kids connect to his hard backround. he is helping to elevate the new big east. hopefully we land terrell and abu from him.
we?
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Fair article IMO;
“@jeffborzello: Jalen Lindsey's commitment shows Ed Cooley is keeping his recruiting promise at Providence. Column: http://cbsprt.co/11TNVR5 (http://cbsprt.co/11TNVR5)”
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big ed cooley is the salt of the earth..works hard recruiting and coaching and kids connect to his hard backround. he is helping to elevate the new big east. hopefully we land terrell and abu from him.
we?
Guess you still haven't seen Ed and Cheese at the same time. :)
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M'Q & Creighton is same tourney;
“@eamonnbrennan: Bracket reveal: Wooden Legacy http://es.pn/12wqSH1 (http://es.pn/12wqSH1)”
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M'Q & Creighton is same tourney;
“@eamonnbrennan: Bracket reveal: Wooden Legacy http://es.pn/12wqSH1 (http://es.pn/12wqSH1)”
I'm sure these schools committed before conference realignment. That's why the schools were put on opposite sides of the bracket, though with that field, they should meet in the finals anyway. Happened with Oklahoma and West Virginia last year, too (they met in the third place game of the Old Spice).
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A shadow of former self, Lol
“@JonRothstein: Georgetown big man Josh Smith is down to 358 pounds. Was 385. Going to be interesting to see how he meshes with Hoyas in 13-14.”
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A shadow of former self, Lol
“@JonRothstein: Georgetown big man Josh Smith is down to 358 pounds. Was 385. Going to be interesting to see how he meshes with Hoyas in 13-14.”
88 more pounds and he'll have an NBA career and live past 45.
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Not with all the crabcakes he'll eat.
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VCU AD Ed McLaughlin on Wednesday released a five-year strategic plan that he "hopes will make the Rams a major player in Division I in all sports but football," according to Tim Pearrell of the RICHMOND TIMES-DISPATCH. McLaughlin believes that the plan will "help the Rams continue to build on the momentum and become 'an elite-level' program." The plan "includes eight themes: strengthening VCU’s Division I position; enriching the student-athlete experience; expecting academic success; providing championship quality facilities; growing athletics revenues; sustaining fiscal responsibility; embracing equity and diversity; and constructing an optimal Division I infrastructure." However, "adding football is not part of the plan." New facilities, upgrades and money "will be required." McLaughlin's "first priority remains getting a privately funded basketball practice facility built." He said that the school "has some gifts that need to be finalized" and hopes to have the $14-16M needed for the facility "by the end of the summer." Other priorities "include possible expansion" of the basketball program's Siegel Center. McLaughlin said that expansion "depends on what a study says can be done 'without losing the environment.'" He added that the athletics department had a "small surplus this year and he expects the budget to be balanced in the future." VCU had a $981,848 deficit in '11-12 (RICHMOND TIMES-DISPATCH, 7/18).
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VCU AD Ed McLaughlin on Wednesday released a five-year strategic plan that he "hopes will make the Rams a major player in Division I in all sports but football," according to Tim Pearrell of the RICHMOND TIMES-DISPATCH. McLaughlin believes that the plan will "help the Rams continue to build on the momentum and become 'an elite-level' program." The plan "includes eight themes: strengthening VCU’s Division I position; enriching the student-athlete experience; expecting academic success; providing championship quality facilities; growing athletics revenues; sustaining fiscal responsibility; embracing equity and diversity; and constructing an optimal Division I infrastructure." However, "adding football is not part of the plan." New facilities, upgrades and money "will be required." McLaughlin's "first priority remains getting a privately funded basketball practice facility built." He said that the school "has some gifts that need to be finalized" and hopes to have the $14-16M needed for the facility "by the end of the summer." Other priorities "include possible expansion" of the basketball program's Siegel Center. McLaughlin said that expansion "depends on what a study says can be done 'without losing the environment.'" He added that the athletics department had a "small surplus this year and he expects the budget to be balanced in the future." VCU had a $981,848 deficit in '11-12 (RICHMOND TIMES-DISPATCH, 7/18).
Aka. "We want to be part of the Big East". Hopefully when we decide to add more teams, we will select the proper ones. Nice to see VCU pushing all sports and purposely declaring there won't be football. They should certainly be considered come expansion time which I'm sure will come sooner or later. One more "eastern" school to add and it will likely be Richmond or VCU.
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I think it's terrible that we considered programs like Seton Hall and Depaul to be reputable D1 programs when deciding who would make up this conference.
The point isn't that VCU is better than Depaul. The point is that Depaul should be asked to earn their place in our conference. We were held accountable for the crimes that Harrington committed. Depaul is a disgrace, and their name recognition needs to go the way of the dinosaur.
History is fine, but everything dies, and if this conference is to have any chance of success, they need to man up, and judge each member by what they offer. And if it's nothing, the MAAC is waiting. Seton Hall would be perfect.
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I think it's terrible that we considered programs like Seton Hall and Depaul to be reputable D1 programs when deciding who would make up this conference.
The point isn't that VCU is better than Depaul. The point is that Depaul should be asked to earn their place in our conference. We were held accountable for the crimes that Harrington committed. Depaul is a disgrace, and their name recognition needs to go the way of the dinosaur.
History is fine, but everything dies, and if this conference is to have any chance of success, they need to man up, and judge each member by what they offer. And if it's nothing, the MAAC is waiting. Seton Hall would be perfect.
Who do you hate more?
DePaul, Hall or Fordham? :)
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I think it's terrible that we considered programs like Seton Hall and Depaul to be reputable D1 programs when deciding who would make up this conference.
The point isn't that VCU is better than Depaul. The point is that Depaul should be asked to earn their place in our conference. We were held accountable for the crimes that Harrington committed. Depaul is a disgrace, and their name recognition needs to go the way of the dinosaur.
History is fine, but everything dies, and if this conference is to have any chance of success, they need to man up, and judge each member by what they offer. And if it's nothing, the MAAC is waiting. Seton Hall would be perfect.
All it takes is the right coach to turn them around, Seton Hall & DePaul have plenty to offer
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Seems like a good passing team with decent players surrounding an AA.
“@ShaneInROC: Taking a Look at #Creighton 's 2013-14 Roster - solid lineup with a pretty darn good player --Blog-- http://playforthegarden.com/2013/07/22/taking-a-look-at-creightons-2013-14-roster/ (http://playforthegarden.com/2013/07/22/taking-a-look-at-creightons-2013-14-roster/)”
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From Fran SI interview;
SI.com: One story that everyone is interested in is realignment. You were part of the last era at St. John’s where they were really nationally relevant. How much of a help do you think it will be for programs like St. John’s, DePaul, Providence in getting out of the mega-Big East under the impact of the football schools?
FF: I think there’s going to be an aspect of the realignment that’s going to help them in their Big East, but honestly, and I say this as a partisan, the fact that the Big East will not be on ESPN is going to be a detriment to them, at least in the early going as FOX gets their network up and running, because I can’t imagine they’re going to get the kind of exposure they deserve based on the history and tradition of those programs. So that will be interesting to see how that plays out.
You’ve seen it to a lesser degree with the Mountain West and how little exposure really good teams have gotten the last five to 10 years, so I’ll be anxious to see, despite with my buddy Bill Raftery being over there, how that all shakes not. Not from a network competition standpoint, but just in terms of exposure of that conference.
It’s never going to be the same as long as you don’t have the rivalries of the Notre Dames and the Syracuses and the Pittsburghs. That’s what made that league so spectacular over 30 years, so I’m anxious to see how the Big East, in particular, with all basketball-playing schools, whether it can thrive or not given it will be one of the few conferences that’s basketball only.
“@tsnmike: My friend @AndyGlockner interviews my friend @FranFraschilla. How can that not be worth your time? http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/ (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/) via @SI_NCAABB”
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He's just spewing the same crap all the ESPN guys are.
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He's just spewing the same crap all the ESPN guys are.
And he's dumb enough to explicitly mention the ESPN/Fox connection. The other guys are sly enough to avoid it though we all know it exists.
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From Fran SI interview;
SI.com: One story that everyone is interested in is realignment. You were part of the last era at St. John’s where they were really nationally relevant. How much of a help do you think it will be for programs like St. John’s, DePaul, Providence in getting out of the mega-Big East under the impact of the football schools?
FF: I think there’s going to be an aspect of the realignment that’s going to help them in their Big East, but honestly, and I say this as a partisan, the fact that the Big East will not be on ESPN is going to be a detriment to them, at least in the early going as FOX gets their network up and running, because I can’t imagine they’re going to get the kind of exposure they deserve based on the history and tradition of those programs. So that will be interesting to see how that plays out.
You’ve seen it to a lesser degree with the Mountain West and how little exposure really good teams have gotten the last five to 10 years, so I’ll be anxious to see, despite with my buddy Bill Raftery being over there, how that all shakes not. Not from a network competition standpoint, but just in terms of exposure of that conference.
It’s never going to be the same as long as you don’t have the rivalries of the Notre Dames and the Syracuses and the Pittsburghs. That’s what made that league so spectacular over 30 years, so I’m anxious to see how the Big East, in particular, with all basketball-playing schools, whether it can thrive or not given it will be one of the few conferences that’s basketball only.
“@tsnmike: My friend @AndyGlockner interviews my friend @FranFraschilla. How can that not be worth your time? http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/ (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/) via @SI_NCAABB”
he nails the problem...and the greek chorus comes in to trash him.
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From Fran SI interview;
SI.com: One story that everyone is interested in is realignment. You were part of the last era at St. John’s where they were really nationally relevant. How much of a help do you think it will be for programs like St. John’s, DePaul, Providence in getting out of the mega-Big East under the impact of the football schools?
FF: I think there’s going to be an aspect of the realignment that’s going to help them in their Big East, but honestly, and I say this as a partisan, the fact that the Big East will not be on ESPN is going to be a detriment to them, at least in the early going as FOX gets their network up and running, because I can’t imagine they’re going to get the kind of exposure they deserve based on the history and tradition of those programs. So that will be interesting to see how that plays out.
You’ve seen it to a lesser degree with the Mountain West and how little exposure really good teams have gotten the last five to 10 years, so I’ll be anxious to see, despite with my buddy Bill Raftery being over there, how that all shakes not. Not from a network competition standpoint, but just in terms of exposure of that conference.
It’s never going to be the same as long as you don’t have the rivalries of the Notre Dames and the Syracuses and the Pittsburghs. That’s what made that league so spectacular over 30 years, so I’m anxious to see how the Big East, in particular, with all basketball-playing schools, whether it can thrive or not given it will be one of the few conferences that’s basketball only.
“@tsnmike: My friend @AndyGlockner interviews my friend @FranFraschilla. How can that not be worth your time? http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/ (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/) via @SI_NCAABB”
he nails the problem...and the greek chorus comes in to trash him.
yawn...........
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Will there be games televised on the Fox proper (something akin to the current CBS national cbb coverage)? Even 1 weekly marquee game on Saturdays during conference play with Raftery and Johnson would go a long way.
Is the expectation that sportscenter will not show BE highlights?
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“@AdamZagoria: Providence’s Cooley: ‘We want to recruit the best players in the country’ http://zagsblog.com/providence/providences-cooley-we-want-to-recruit-the-best-players-in-the-country/ (http://zagsblog.com/providence/providences-cooley-we-want-to-recruit-the-best-players-in-the-country/)”
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From Fran SI interview;
SI.com: One story that everyone is interested in is realignment. You were part of the last era at St. John’s where they were really nationally relevant. How much of a help do you think it will be for programs like St. John’s, DePaul, Providence in getting out of the mega-Big East under the impact of the football schools?
FF: I think there’s going to be an aspect of the realignment that’s going to help them in their Big East, but honestly, and I say this as a partisan, the fact that the Big East will not be on ESPN is going to be a detriment to them, at least in the early going as FOX gets their network up and running, because I can’t imagine they’re going to get the kind of exposure they deserve based on the history and tradition of those programs. So that will be interesting to see how that plays out.
You’ve seen it to a lesser degree with the Mountain West and how little exposure really good teams have gotten the last five to 10 years, so I’ll be anxious to see, despite with my buddy Bill Raftery being over there, how that all shakes not. Not from a network competition standpoint, but just in terms of exposure of that conference.
It’s never going to be the same as long as you don’t have the rivalries of the Notre Dames and the Syracuses and the Pittsburghs. That’s what made that league so spectacular over 30 years, so I’m anxious to see how the Big East, in particular, with all basketball-playing schools, whether it can thrive or not given it will be one of the few conferences that’s basketball only.
“@tsnmike: My friend @AndyGlockner interviews my friend @FranFraschilla. How can that not be worth your time? http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/ (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/) via @SI_NCAABB”
he nails the problem...and the greek chorus comes in to trash him.
What problem? Fox sports is launching an entirely different scale of network and he compares our league to the Mountain West? C'mon Newsie. It's easy to see that this is just a jab at the league and Fox. No rivalries like Notre Dame? Who's rival has Notre Dame been? I don't think we'll miss Pitt much either. I think Syracuse and Uconn are big losses but we added some good bball schools. We still have rivals like Nova, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence etc. New ones will be built.
What you don't seem to grasp Newsie, is that this is the best case scenario by far for all the bball-only schools. This is as happy an ending and anyof us could have hoped for. The basketball will be very good, the money is coming in and we are on a real network with great network deal as well as MSG.
Franny is just spitting out the company line basically saying we'll be obsolete if not playing on the network that he is a mouthpiece for.
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I think it's terrible that we considered programs like Seton Hall and Depaul to be reputable D1 programs when deciding who would make up this conference.
The point isn't that VCU is better than Depaul. The point is that Depaul should be asked to earn their place in our conference. We were held accountable for the crimes that Harrington committed. Depaul is a disgrace, and their name recognition needs to go the way of the dinosaur.
History is fine, but everything dies, and if this conference is to have any chance of success, they need to man up, and judge each member by what they offer. And if it's nothing, the MAAC is waiting. Seton Hall would be perfect.
All it takes is the right coach to turn them around, Seton Hall & DePaul have plenty to offer
The Seton Hall Rivals board is heating up with rumors of the possible hiring of a third assistant who, in the words of some posters (who are obviously jacked up), is a "wowser," "who would wipe the floor with Savino," and would provide "potentially big recruiting ... in a locale we've been lacking with Willard." Apparently there are hints of who he is on their pay forum (which I'm certainly not about to sign up for). Barry Rohrssen immediately came to mind -- something I'd hate to see -- but I thought he's set at Pitt. Just wondering if anyone's heard anything about this and, if so, who the mystery recruiter might be.
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Wasn't Fred Hill supposed to do that?
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Wasn't Fred Hill supposed to do that?
Hill was for the NJ connection. They haven't been able to recruit in NY lately.
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From Fran SI interview;
SI.com: One story that everyone is interested in is realignment. You were part of the last era at St. John’s where they were really nationally relevant. How much of a help do you think it will be for programs like St. John’s, DePaul, Providence in getting out of the mega-Big East under the impact of the football schools?
FF: I think there’s going to be an aspect of the realignment that’s going to help them in their Big East, but honestly, and I say this as a partisan, the fact that the Big East will not be on ESPN is going to be a detriment to them, at least in the early going as FOX gets their network up and running, because I can’t imagine they’re going to get the kind of exposure they deserve based on the history and tradition of those programs. So that will be interesting to see how that plays out.
You’ve seen it to a lesser degree with the Mountain West and how little exposure really good teams have gotten the last five to 10 years, so I’ll be anxious to see, despite with my buddy Bill Raftery being over there, how that all shakes not. Not from a network competition standpoint, but just in terms of exposure of that conference.
It’s never going to be the same as long as you don’t have the rivalries of the Notre Dames and the Syracuses and the Pittsburghs. That’s what made that league so spectacular over 30 years, so I’m anxious to see how the Big East, in particular, with all basketball-playing schools, whether it can thrive or not given it will be one of the few conferences that’s basketball only.
“@tsnmike: My friend @AndyGlockner interviews my friend @FranFraschilla. How can that not be worth your time? http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/ (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/) via @SI_NCAABB”
he nails the problem...and the greek chorus comes in to trash him.
What problem? Fox sports is launching an entirely different scale of network and he compares our league to the Mountain West? C'mon Newsie. It's easy to see that this is just a jab at the league and Fox. No rivalries like Notre Dame? Who's rival has Notre Dame been? I don't think we'll miss Pitt much either. I think Syracuse and Uconn are big losses but we added some good bball schools. We still have rivals like Nova, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence etc. New ones will be built.
What you don't seem to grasp Newsie, is that this is the best case scenario by far for all the bball-only schools. This is as happy an ending and anyof us could have hoped for. The basketball will be very good, the money is coming in and we are on a real network with great network deal as well as MSG.
Franny is just spitting out the company line basically saying we'll be obsolete if not playing on the network that he is a mouthpiece for.
first, marcus, fran isn't saying we'll be obsolete.
he says there will be an aspect that will help us. that aspect is a weaker league. you have to agree we really hadn't been competitive in the big east, with the exception of lavin's year one, since jarvis was our coach. a much weaker big east will give us a temporary boost. after that, players who are acc, big ten, sec, etc quality will opt for those big time conferences over us. we'll compete with the mountain west and the aac and the atlantic ten for the leftovers. we'll have no shot at being a perennial top ten program. we'll be a perennial top twenty five, probably as long as we have lavin.
on some level, not being on espn will hurt. who knows where we can find fox? we'll look, but most viewers won't. that's fran's point. i'm glad we went to fox because of the backstabbing paper bags at espn and because fox supposedly broke the bank to get the league. however, exposure is important. having little exposure is a league killer. you know that.
rivalries are important. that's one reason the league should have at least sixteen teams. we shouldn't have to crap in our pants when a coach leaves one of our schools for a better job. the already weak league got softer with the stevens departure. this shouldn't happen.
in other words, a minute shouldn't go by without the league heavily promoting itself...and looking for serious programs to join. no matter what the greek chorus says, this year's version of the big east isn't as good as it was in the recent past. it could be, but it's not.
this wasn't a case of fran shilling for espn. someone asked him a serious question and he gave a serious answer.
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I think it's terrible that we considered programs like Seton Hall and Depaul to be reputable D1 programs when deciding who would make up this conference.
The point isn't that VCU is better than Depaul. The point is that Depaul should be asked to earn their place in our conference. We were held accountable for the crimes that Harrington committed. Depaul is a disgrace, and their name recognition needs to go the way of the dinosaur.
History is fine, but everything dies, and if this conference is to have any chance of success, they need to man up, and judge each member by what they offer. And if it's nothing, the MAAC is waiting. Seton Hall would be perfect.
how were we held accountable? we put seton hall quality crap on the floor and picked up checks from the conference. we'd still be stinking out college basketball if not for mike repole.
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Fran is right: it's not -- at least initially -- a good thing for us not to be on ESPN. Fox 1 won't reach nearly as many homes as ESPN does, at least not in its early stages, plus it's a given for kids to watch college BB on ESPN. We'll have to wait and see ... but with talk of a new Division 4, who knows what the future holds.
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From Fran SI interview;
SI.com: One story that everyone is interested in is realignment. You were part of the last era at St. John’s where they were really nationally relevant. How much of a help do you think it will be for programs like St. John’s, DePaul, Providence in getting out of the mega-Big East under the impact of the football schools?
FF: I think there’s going to be an aspect of the realignment that’s going to help them in their Big East, but honestly, and I say this as a partisan, the fact that the Big East will not be on ESPN is going to be a detriment to them, at least in the early going as FOX gets their network up and running, because I can’t imagine they’re going to get the kind of exposure they deserve based on the history and tradition of those programs. So that will be interesting to see how that plays out.
You’ve seen it to a lesser degree with the Mountain West and how little exposure really good teams have gotten the last five to 10 years, so I’ll be anxious to see, despite with my buddy Bill Raftery being over there, how that all shakes not. Not from a network competition standpoint, but just in terms of exposure of that conference.
It’s never going to be the same as long as you don’t have the rivalries of the Notre Dames and the Syracuses and the Pittsburghs. That’s what made that league so spectacular over 30 years, so I’m anxious to see how the Big East, in particular, with all basketball-playing schools, whether it can thrive or not given it will be one of the few conferences that’s basketball only.
“@tsnmike: My friend @AndyGlockner interviews my friend @FranFraschilla. How can that not be worth your time? http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/ (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/) via @SI_NCAABB”
he nails the problem...and the greek chorus comes in to trash him.
What problem? Fox sports is launching an entirely different scale of network and he compares our league to the Mountain West? C'mon Newsie. It's easy to see that this is just a jab at the league and Fox. No rivalries like Notre Dame? Who's rival has Notre Dame been? I don't think we'll miss Pitt much either. I think Syracuse and Uconn are big losses but we added some good bball schools. We still have rivals like Nova, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence etc. New ones will be built.
What you don't seem to grasp Newsie, is that this is the best case scenario by far for all the bball-only schools. This is as happy an ending and anyof us could have hoped for. The basketball will be very good, the money is coming in and we are on a real network with great network deal as well as MSG.
Franny is just spitting out the company line basically saying we'll be obsolete if not playing on the network that he is a mouthpiece for.
first, marcus, fran isn't saying we'll be obsolete.
he says there will be an aspect that will help us. that aspect is a weaker league. you have to agree we really hadn't been competitive in the big east, with the exception of lavin's year one, since jarvis was our coach. a much weaker big east will give us a temporary boost. after that, players who are acc, big ten, sec, etc quality will opt for those big time conferences over us. we'll compete with the mountain west and the aac and the atlantic ten for the leftovers. we'll have no shot at being a perennial top ten program. we'll be a perennial top twenty five, probably as long as we have lavin.
on some level, not being on espn will hurt. who knows where we can find fox? we'll look, but most viewers won't. that's fran's point. i'm glad we went to fox because of the backstabbing paper bags at espn and because fox supposedly broke the bank to get the league. however, exposure is important. having little exposure is a league killer. you know that.
rivalries are important. that's one reason the league should have at least sixteen teams. we shouldn't have to crap in our pants when a coach leaves one of our schools for a better job. the already weak league got softer with the stevens departure. this shouldn't happen.
in other words, a minute shouldn't go by without the league heavily promoting itself...and looking for serious programs to join. no matter what the greek chorus says, this year's version of the big east isn't as good as it was in the recent past. it could be, but it's not.
this wasn't a case of fran shilling for espn. someone asked him a serious question and he gave a serious answer.
Arguably your most level headed response on this sore subject of yours.
No question it will be easier to stand out in a 10-12 team league as opposed to 16. However as I mentioned to you on the other board is a recent post to say kids will only go to those other conferences is complete BS. Look at all the Top 100, 50, even 25 kids listing schools in the new Big East. These kids are basketball players. We are basketball schools. There are many schools in the other 'big' conferences that suck at basketball and regardless of what conference they are in it won't help their cause. Lastly as for your perennial Top 10 vs. Top 25 statement, someone will have to look but most teams I'm sure fall into the latter as Top 10 is too unpredictable this day in age. It's too dynamic.
Fox is Fox. This isn't Versus when they launched post NHL lockout in 30M homes. They are taking channels with distribution upwards of 80-90M and rebranding them. And will promote the hell out of it via Fox and all the regional networks they have a piece of.
So wait, now you want 16 teams? I mean I always knew you wanted more teams. I think you even suggested like 30 in a previous post. 10-12 makes it manageable. Why invite everyone and their mother? Please share a list of 4-6 'serious' programs you'd want to see join and please don't bother suggesting a school that plays D1 Football.
*By the way for someone born in the last 30 years what the hell is a greek chorus?
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Let's remember, that when the old Big East was formed in 1979, nobody knew what this "ESPN channel" that we signed up with was, and many people thought cable TV would not last. I don't know how many homes ESPN was in at the time, but it was not many. A lot of people thought the league would never establish any credibility with that TV contract.
Well, you know what happened? We fooled them then, and we're going to do it again. Maybe not right away, but sooner rather then later.
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Let's remember, that when the old Big East was formed in 1979, nobody knew what this "ESPN channel" that we signed up with was
I knew what it was. It was my go-to source for all roller derby, all the time. ;D
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When it comes to business, Murdoch doesn't go into these ventures to lose. It's
up to the league and it's members to do the rest. Make some noise and the hand
remotes will follow. Also, I expect the cable stations will move the two Fox sport
stations into the sports groupings with station numbers within that grouping.
On Verizon HD 570-598, Speed is 583 and I expect Fuel will be moved down into this range.
Fox has 584 already and 581-2 is not utilized.
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“@ECoastBias: RT @QSTJHoops: The Big East Summer Q&A series continues with a look at DePaul with @WeAreDePaul. #stjbb #sjubb #dpubb http://sbn.to/19fssnS (http://sbn.to/19fssnS)”
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He's just spewing the same crap all the ESPN guys are.
And he's dumb enough to explicitly mention the ESPN/Fox connection. The other guys are sly enough to avoid it though we all know it exists.
Maybe it's just my perspective...But I don't watch games because they are on ESPN...I watch them because they are compelling games regardless of the network...It just so happens that ESPN, with little competition, has had the most compelling games...
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He's just spewing the same crap all the ESPN guys are.
And he's dumb enough to explicitly mention the ESPN/Fox connection. The other guys are sly enough to avoid it though we all know it exists.
Maybe it's just my perspective...But I don't watch games because they are on ESPN...I watch them because they are compelling games regardless of the network...It just so happens that ESPN, with little competition, has had the most compelling games...
Preaching to the choir here.
ESPN finally has someone who is fighting with them in the sandbox.
I don't follow the political scene much but at one time wasn't CNN the end all be all. Now there is FoxNews, MSNBC and I'm sure another maybe I'm leaving out. ESPN has a history and Fox can learn the good and the bad and replicate what it needs to in order to rival ESPN.
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He's just spewing the same crap all the ESPN guys are.
And he's dumb enough to explicitly mention the ESPN/Fox connection. The other guys are sly enough to avoid it though we all know it exists.
Maybe it's just my perspective...But I don't watch games because they are on ESPN...I watch them because they are compelling games regardless of the network...It just so happens that ESPN, with little competition, has had the most compelling games...
If there's a compelling game on then, sure, that's the case. If there isn't ESPN is like White Noise for millions of men. It's always running in the background. So yes, if the NBE puts a compelling product on the floor then some folks will change channels, but they're starting at ESPN.
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From Fran SI interview;
SI.com: One story that everyone is interested in is realignment. You were part of the last era at St. John’s where they were really nationally relevant. How much of a help do you think it will be for programs like St. John’s, DePaul, Providence in getting out of the mega-Big East under the impact of the football schools?
FF: I think there’s going to be an aspect of the realignment that’s going to help them in their Big East, but honestly, and I say this as a partisan, the fact that the Big East will not be on ESPN is going to be a detriment to them, at least in the early going as FOX gets their network up and running, because I can’t imagine they’re going to get the kind of exposure they deserve based on the history and tradition of those programs. So that will be interesting to see how that plays out.
You’ve seen it to a lesser degree with the Mountain West and how little exposure really good teams have gotten the last five to 10 years, so I’ll be anxious to see, despite with my buddy Bill Raftery being over there, how that all shakes not. Not from a network competition standpoint, but just in terms of exposure of that conference.
It’s never going to be the same as long as you don’t have the rivalries of the Notre Dames and the Syracuses and the Pittsburghs. That’s what made that league so spectacular over 30 years, so I’m anxious to see how the Big East, in particular, with all basketball-playing schools, whether it can thrive or not given it will be one of the few conferences that’s basketball only.
“@tsnmike: My friend @AndyGlockner interviews my friend @FranFraschilla. How can that not be worth your time? http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/ (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/22/fran-fraschilla/) via @SI_NCAABB”
he nails the problem...and the greek chorus comes in to trash him.
What problem? Fox sports is launching an entirely different scale of network and he compares our league to the Mountain West? C'mon Newsie. It's easy to see that this is just a jab at the league and Fox. No rivalries like Notre Dame? Who's rival has Notre Dame been? I don't think we'll miss Pitt much either. I think Syracuse and Uconn are big losses but we added some good bball schools. We still have rivals like Nova, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence etc. New ones will be built.
What you don't seem to grasp Newsie, is that this is the best case scenario by far for all the bball-only schools. This is as happy an ending and anyof us could have hoped for. The basketball will be very good, the money is coming in and we are on a real network with great network deal as well as MSG.
Franny is just spitting out the company line basically saying we'll be obsolete if not playing on the network that he is a mouthpiece for.
first, marcus, fran isn't saying we'll be obsolete.
he says there will be an aspect that will help us. that aspect is a weaker league. you have to agree we really hadn't been competitive in the big east, with the exception of lavin's year one, since jarvis was our coach. a much weaker big east will give us a temporary boost. after that, players who are acc, big ten, sec, etc quality will opt for those big time conferences over us. we'll compete with the mountain west and the aac and the atlantic ten for the leftovers. we'll have no shot at being a perennial top ten program. we'll be a perennial top twenty five, probably as long as we have lavin.
on some level, not being on espn will hurt. who knows where we can find fox? we'll look, but most viewers won't. that's fran's point. i'm glad we went to fox because of the backstabbing paper bags at espn and because fox supposedly broke the bank to get the league. however, exposure is important. having little exposure is a league killer. you know that.
rivalries are important. that's one reason the league should have at least sixteen teams. we shouldn't have to crap in our pants when a coach leaves one of our schools for a better job. the already weak league got softer with the stevens departure. this shouldn't happen.
in other words, a minute shouldn't go by without the league heavily promoting itself...and looking for serious programs to join. no matter what the greek chorus says, this year's version of the big east isn't as good as it was in the recent past. it could be, but it's not.
this wasn't a case of fran shilling for espn. someone asked him a serious question and he gave a serious answer.
Arguably your most level headed response on this sore subject of yours.
No question it will be easier to stand out in a 10-12 team league as opposed to 16. However as I mentioned to you on the other board is a recent post to say kids will only go to those other conferences is complete BS. Look at all the Top 100, 50, even 25 kids listing schools in the new Big East. These kids are basketball players. We are basketball schools. There are many schools in the other 'big' conferences that suck at basketball and regardless of what conference they are in it won't help their cause. Lastly as for your perennial Top 10 vs. Top 25 statement, someone will have to look but most teams I'm sure fall into the latter as Top 10 is too unpredictable this day in age. It's too dynamic.
Fox is Fox. This isn't Versus when they launched post NHL lockout in 30M homes. They are taking channels with distribution upwards of 80-90M and rebranding them. And will promote the hell out of it via Fox and all the regional networks they have a piece of.
So wait, now you want 16 teams? I mean I always knew you wanted more teams. I think you even suggested like 30 in a previous post. 10-12 makes it manageable. Why invite everyone and their mother? Please share a list of 4-6 'serious' programs you'd want to see join and please don't bother suggesting a school that plays D1 Football.
*By the way for someone born in the last 30 years what the hell is a greek chorus?
a greek chorus is way before my time. in ancient greek plays, there would be the action. then there would be a group of people in the background repeating their own lines in unison.
i would rather have more than sixteen teams. a new conference if it has aspirations to be as good as the others needs to be outside the box. recent new big east history tells me it ain't happening. that's why i won't dwell on it anymore.
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Keep in mind that channel placement is almost as important as what they put on.
If you're at an easily accessible location on the 'dial'; that's huge. I have Timewarner, and I almost never happen to land on NBCSsports, because they're in the middle of nowhere on my channel lineup, ESPN ESPN2 and MSG are all lumped together right after the big networks. That makes a big difference.
It'll be interesting to see if FS1 keeps Speed's location, uses another fox subsidiary's spot (like FX's), or pays for a better spot on the dial.
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Good!
“@wjpaquette: Happy to report that I am "back" with the Big East in a communications role. Excited to be working with a group of great schools.”
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“@eamonnbrennan: The next Wichita State: March Sleepers http://es.pn/168Rj7C (http://es.pn/168Rj7C)”
7. Butler -- Not many coaches in the country will be as heavily scrutinized this season as Brandon Miller, who was hired in July after Brad Stevens left for the Boston Celtics. Miller left coaching altogether a few seasons ago when he resigned after six years as an assistant at Ohio State. He got back in the game last year as a special assistant to Illinois coach John Groce before Stevens brought him back to Butler as an assistant a few months before his departure. Miller inherits a team that lost its top two scorers in Rotnei Clarke and Andrew Smith. But standouts Khyle Marshall and Roosevelt Jones (the hero of last season’s dramatic win over Gonzaga) return along with Kellen Dunham, one of the country’s top shooters. The biggest issue will be at point guard, where there is no clear front-runner for the starting spot. Jackson Aldridge has yet to establish himself after two seasons, and Devontae Morgan hardly saw the court last season as a freshman. Walk-on Alex Barlow is also a candidate. The Bulldogs certainly don’t have the look of a Final Four team, but if Miller does half as good of a job as Stevens, it’d be foolish to count the Bulldogs out.
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a greek chorus is way before my time. in ancient greek plays, there would be the action. then there would be a group of people in the background repeating their own lines in unison. ...
Re a Greek chorus: The actors' lines were commentary on the action that was taking place before them.
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M'Q blog's take on season;
D’Angelo Harrison, G, St. John’s — The controversial sophomore was suspended the last six games of the season last year, but he’ll return with a clean slate as an upperclassman needing to prove his worth. The numbers have always been there — he averaged 17.8 points per game — now it’s time for it to produce wins for Steve Lavin’s group. If he keeps his head on straight, admittedly a big “if,” he’ll earn First Team honors.
Second Team:
Jakarr Sampson, F, St. John’s — Last year’s Big East Rookie of the Year performed admirably and will need to be Harrison’s No. 2 for a St. John’s team that, shocker, will again be one of the youngest in the country. He’s more athlete than basketball player and another offseason of work and understanding of the game will do him good. He averaged 14.9 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last year. His sophomore numbers should look even better.
Third Team;
Rysheed Jordan, G, St. John’s — One freshman had to make all-conference honors, so why not Jordan? The 6-foot-3 point guard chose the Johnnies over UCLA and enters the fold as the 17th best prospect in the 2013 class, the highest-ranked newcomer in the conference. He’s a powerful scorer who runs the break well but must show he can run a team. Given the minutes he’ll likely need to play, he should do just that.
Honorable mention candidates
Ryan Arcidiacono, G, Villanova
Khyle Marshall, F, Butler
Kellen Dunham, F, Butler
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, G, Georgetown
Eugene Teague, C, Seton Hall
Chris Obekpa, C, St. John’s
Jajuan Johnson, G, Marquette
Eli Carter, G, Rutgers
Nate Lubick, F, Georgetown
Eli Carter??? Maybe at UF. Ha
“@nybuckets: .@PaintTouches Did his own take on the Way Too Early Big East teams. Definitely different: http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/)”
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Butler Preview;
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/big-east-2014-preview/2013/7/25/4548876/big-eas,t-,offseason-summer-preview-butler-bulldogs (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/big-east-2014-preview/2013/7/25/4548876/big-eas,t-,offseason-summer-preview-butler-bulldogs)
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M'Q blog's take on season;
D’Angelo Harrison, G, St. John’s — The controversial sophomore was suspended the last six games of the season last year, but he’ll return with a clean slate as an upperclassman needing to prove his worth. The numbers have always been there — he averaged 17.8 points per game — now it’s time for it to produce wins for Steve Lavin’s group. If he keeps his head on straight, admittedly a big “if,” he’ll earn First Team honors.
Second Team:
Jakarr Sampson, F, St. John’s — Last year’s Big East Rookie of the Year performed admirably and will need to be Harrison’s No. 2 for a St. John’s team that, shocker, will again be one of the youngest in the country. He’s more athlete than basketball player and another offseason of work and understanding of the game will do him good. He averaged 14.9 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last year. His sophomore numbers should look even better.
Third Team;
Rysheed Jordan, G, St. John’s — One freshman had to make all-conference honors, so why not Jordan? The 6-foot-3 point guard chose the Johnnies over UCLA and enters the fold as the 17th best prospect in the 2013 class, the highest-ranked newcomer in the conference. He’s a powerful scorer who runs the break well but must show he can run a team. Given the minutes he’ll likely need to play, he should do just that.
Honorable mention candidates
Ryan Arcidiacono, G, Villanova
Khyle Marshall, F, Butler
Kellen Dunham, F, Butler
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, G, Georgetown
Eugene Teague, C, Seton Hall
Chris Obekpa, C, St. John’s
Jajuan Johnson, G, Marquette
Eli Carter, G, Rutgers
Nate Lubick, F, Georgetown
Eli Carter??? Maybe at UF. Ha
“@nybuckets: .@PaintTouches Did his own take on the Way Too Early Big East teams. Definitely different: http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/)”
Do you find it odd that Orlando Sanchez isn't on a pre season team or even honorable mention?
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M'Q blog's take on season;
D’Angelo Harrison, G, St. John’s — The controversial sophomore was suspended the last six games of the season last year, but he’ll return with a clean slate as an upperclassman needing to prove his worth. The numbers have always been there — he averaged 17.8 points per game — now it’s time for it to produce wins for Steve Lavin’s group. If he keeps his head on straight, admittedly a big “if,” he’ll earn First Team honors.
Second Team:
Jakarr Sampson, F, St. John’s — Last year’s Big East Rookie of the Year performed admirably and will need to be Harrison’s No. 2 for a St. John’s team that, shocker, will again be one of the youngest in the country. He’s more athlete than basketball player and another offseason of work and understanding of the game will do him good. He averaged 14.9 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last year. His sophomore numbers should look even better.
Third Team;
Rysheed Jordan, G, St. John’s — One freshman had to make all-conference honors, so why not Jordan? The 6-foot-3 point guard chose the Johnnies over UCLA and enters the fold as the 17th best prospect in the 2013 class, the highest-ranked newcomer in the conference. He’s a powerful scorer who runs the break well but must show he can run a team. Given the minutes he’ll likely need to play, he should do just that.
Honorable mention candidates
Ryan Arcidiacono, G, Villanova
Khyle Marshall, F, Butler
Kellen Dunham, F, Butler
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, G, Georgetown
Eugene Teague, C, Seton Hall
Chris Obekpa, C, St. John’s
Jajuan Johnson, G, Marquette
Eli Carter, G, Rutgers
Nate Lubick, F, Georgetown
Eli Carter??? Maybe at UF. Ha
“@nybuckets: .@PaintTouches Did his own take on the Way Too Early Big East teams. Definitely different: http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/)”
Do you find it odd that Orlando Sanchez isn't on a pre season team or even honorable mention?
not really. no one has seen him play.
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“@PaintTouches: [New to PT] Buzz built his frontcourt on 2- and 3-star players. Now he's cashing in on trying to land a prized big: http://bit.ly/12ldVoy (http://bit.ly/12ldVoy)”
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6'6" talented 2014 guard;
“@Future150EricH: Sandy Cohen has committed to Marquette, according to various reports. Huge commitment for the Golden Eagles. Kid drips upside.”
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Imo, impressive;
"MU: Creighton has spent the past decade playing in front of 17,000 fans in an NBA-style arena for its home games, routinely selling out and finishing in the top ten nationally in attendance. CU Hoops is a tough ticket. They have nearly 13,000 season ticket holders, which is more people than the arena capacity of many schools in the Big East. That's impressive enough on it's own, but even moreso considering CU has an undergraduate enrollment of just over 4,000."
Whole article;
“@QSTJHoops: Big East Summer Q&A: Max Univers of @whitebluereview tells us about Creighton. #stjbb #sjubb #GoJays http://sbn.to/1c2vahM (http://sbn.to/1c2vahM)”
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I have always read that Creighton drew extremely well, so no surprise to me. It is why they are a good addition to the conference. Not having to compete with many professional sports teams obviously helps, as well as being in an area with limited sources of other entertainment.
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“@DMartinCSN: Big East represented on @NBCSN @ Battle 4 Atlantis. 1st Rd 11/28: Xavier v. Iowa @ 7pm, Villanova v. USC @ 1pm. Nova could face KU in 2nd rd”
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“@PaintTouches: [New to PT, for whoever the hell would be up] Column: Buzz Williams building a family at Marquette: http://bit.ly/12AOUpF (http://bit.ly/12AOUpF) #mubb”
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“@QSTJHoops: Big East Summer Q&A: Will Georgetown be able to maintain its excellence in 2013-14? #stjbb #sjubb #Hoyas http://sbn.to/13WkjRy (http://sbn.to/13WkjRy)”
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M'Q blog's take on season;
D’Angelo Harrison, G, St. John’s — The controversial sophomore was suspended the last six games of the season last year, but he’ll return with a clean slate as an upperclassman needing to prove his worth. The numbers have always been there — he averaged 17.8 points per game — now it’s time for it to produce wins for Steve Lavin’s group. If he keeps his head on straight, admittedly a big “if,” he’ll earn First Team honors.
Second Team:
Jakarr Sampson, F, St. John’s — Last year’s Big East Rookie of the Year performed admirably and will need to be Harrison’s No. 2 for a St. John’s team that, shocker, will again be one of the youngest in the country. He’s more athlete than basketball player and another offseason of work and understanding of the game will do him good. He averaged 14.9 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last year. His sophomore numbers should look even better.
Third Team;
Rysheed Jordan, G, St. John’s — One freshman had to make all-conference honors, so why not Jordan? The 6-foot-3 point guard chose the Johnnies over UCLA and enters the fold as the 17th best prospect in the 2013 class, the highest-ranked newcomer in the conference. He’s a powerful scorer who runs the break well but must show he can run a team. Given the minutes he’ll likely need to play, he should do just that.
Honorable mention candidates
Ryan Arcidiacono, G, Villanova
Khyle Marshall, F, Butler
Kellen Dunham, F, Butler
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, G, Georgetown
Eugene Teague, C, Seton Hall
Chris Obekpa, C, St. John’s
Jajuan Johnson, G, Marquette
Eli Carter, G, Rutgers
Nate Lubick, F, Georgetown
Eli Carter??? Maybe at UF. Ha
“@nybuckets: .@PaintTouches Did his own take on the Way Too Early Big East teams. Definitely different: http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/)”
Do you find it odd that Orlando Sanchez isn't on a pre season team or even honorable mention?
not really. no one has seen him play.
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M'Q blog's take on season;
D’Angelo Harrison, G, St. John’s — The controversial sophomore was suspended the last six games of the season last year, but he’ll return with a clean slate as an upperclassman needing to prove his worth. The numbers have always been there — he averaged 17.8 points per game — now it’s time for it to produce wins for Steve Lavin’s group. If he keeps his head on straight, admittedly a big “if,” he’ll earn First Team honors.
Second Team:
Jakarr Sampson, F, St. John’s — Last year’s Big East Rookie of the Year performed admirably and will need to be Harrison’s No. 2 for a St. John’s team that, shocker, will again be one of the youngest in the country. He’s more athlete than basketball player and another offseason of work and understanding of the game will do him good. He averaged 14.9 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last year. His sophomore numbers should look even better.
Third Team;
Rysheed Jordan, G, St. John’s — One freshman had to make all-conference honors, so why not Jordan? The 6-foot-3 point guard chose the Johnnies over UCLA and enters the fold as the 17th best prospect in the 2013 class, the highest-ranked newcomer in the conference. He’s a powerful scorer who runs the break well but must show he can run a team. Given the minutes he’ll likely need to play, he should do just that.
Honorable mention candidates
Ryan Arcidiacono, G, Villanova
Khyle Marshall, F, Butler
Kellen Dunham, F, Butler
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, G, Georgetown
Eugene Teague, C, Seton Hall
Chris Obekpa, C, St. John’s
Jajuan Johnson, G, Marquette
Eli Carter, G, Rutgers
Nate Lubick, F, Georgetown
Eli Carter??? Maybe at UF. Ha
“@nybuckets: .@PaintTouches Did his own take on the Way Too Early Big East teams. Definitely different: http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/)”
Do you find it odd that Orlando Sanchez isn't on a pre season team or even honorable mention?
not really. no one has seen him play.
Not familiar with all these guys but I think Dom Pointer can hold his own with almost anyone. I expect this to be a very big year for him as a swing 6th man. If he keeps playing defense he will be a pro somewhere. His versatility is his top quality and guys like that are attractive. I hope Steve gets him ample minutes, especially at crunch time when he excels.
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Nice get for Nova;
“@BigShotsSkills: BIG SHOTS alum Phil Booth 2014 6'3 G Mount St Joseph (MD) (Team Takeover) has committed to Villanova.”
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/126311/phil-booth (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/126311/phil-booth)
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Anyone going to support Hoyas? Crazy
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Hoyas, Ducks to open hoops season in Asia on Army base in South Korea: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9522216/hoyas-ducks-tip-hoops-season-asia (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9522216/hoyas-ducks-tip-hoops-season-asia)”
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Is this Army Base thing going overboard? Just seems the novelty is worn off with so many games.
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there's turnover at the bases. my guess is many have never seen a college game before.
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Anyone going to support Hoyas? Crazy
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Hoyas, Ducks to open hoops season in Asia on Army base in South Korea: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9522216/hoyas-ducks-tip-hoops-season-asia (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9522216/hoyas-ducks-tip-hoops-season-asia)”
As long as they don't go back to China!
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there's turnover at the bases. my guess is many have never seen a college game before.
I don't think Moose meant as a nice thing for a few thousand troops, I think he meant as a scheduling and travel fiasco. Like the games on the aircraft carriers that were disasters last year the novelty effect has worn off and as a statement of patriotism it's really unnecessary.
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“@QSTJHoops: Big East Summer Q&A: Is Marquette geared to defend its Big East crown? #stjbb #sjubb #mubb http://sbn.to/13Zejax (http://sbn.to/13Zejax)”
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there's turnover at the bases. my guess is many have never seen a college game before.
I don't think Moose meant as a nice thing for a few thousand troops, I think he meant as a scheduling and travel fiasco. Like the games on the aircraft carriers that were disasters last year the novelty effect has worn off and as a statement of patriotism it's really unnecessary.
maybe moose is concerned about travel fiascos. i don't know. i think international trips are a great way to bring a team together, not to mention a great recruiting tool. i love that we're going to europe in a few weeks. i'll let the administration worry about travel fiascos and costs.
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there's turnover at the bases. my guess is many have never seen a college game before.
I don't think Moose meant as a nice thing for a few thousand troops, I think he meant as a scheduling and travel fiasco. Like the games on the aircraft carriers that were disasters last year the novelty effect has worn off and as a statement of patriotism it's really unnecessary.
maybe moose is concerned about travel fiascos. i don't know. i think international trips are a great way to bring a team together, not to mention a great recruiting tool. i love that we're going to europe in a few weeks. i'll let the administration worry about travel fiascos and costs.
We're talking two different things here Newsie.
I have no problem with an European excursion for the team or any school for that matter to play Euro teams and get quality practice and bonding time.
However these military games were great when its started. Two teams on a boat surrounded by troops scenic San Diego is great. Then they started adding like 3-4 more and most of them were utter disasters with slippery floors and bad weather. Reminds me of NHL this year. 1 Winter Classic is great. Fine Canada wants a Heritage game for them ok. Now all of a sudden your adding 4 more games in a Stadium Series. Overkill. The joke is the Stadium Series is sponsored by Coors Light so its the Watered Down Stadium Series.
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Andy Glockner of SI takes an early look at the BE.
http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/31/conference-catch-up-big-east/?mobile=no (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/07/31/conference-catch-up-big-east/?mobile=no)
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“@tsnmike: Meniscus surgery for Marquette's Todd Mayo. No timetable for recovery given.”
Although he is expected to be back in time for the season, a timetable for his return was not given. He joins Steve Taylor Jr. in the rehab department as the rising sophomore went under the knife in early May. Taylor has had a few setbacks in his recovery, though inquiries into his status and a request for an interview have gone unanswered.
Mayo is slated to play a prominent role this season with the departure of Vander Blue and the inexperience of Jajuan Johnson, Deonte Burton and Duane Wilson. Depending on when he can get back on the court this could be a setback even if he does return in time for the first game.
Mayo was suspended for the first 10 games of the season last year after being ruled academically ineligible and struggled to adapt after being away from the team for four months.
““I need to figure out what’s my comfort level with Buzz,” Mayo told Paint Touches in January. “I feel like if I do something wrong, maybe I’m coming out. I just don’t have the comfort.”
He was reinstated on Dec. 20 but only averaged 5.3 points, down from the 7.9 he averaged as a freshman, while shooting just 35.6 percent from the field in 23 games.
We will see how long he is out this time and what the adjustment process is like again.
“@PaintTouches: [New to PT] Mayo goes under the knife for knee surgery. #mubb http://painttouches.com/2013/07/31/todd-mayo-undergoes-knee-surgery/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/07/31/todd-mayo-undergoes-knee-surgery/)”
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[/quote]there's turnover at the bases. my guess is many have never seen a college game before.
I don't think Moose meant as a nice thing for a few thousand troops, I think he meant as a scheduling and travel fiasco. Like the games on the aircraft carriers that were disasters last year the novelty effect has worn off and as a statement of patriotism it's really unnecessary.
maybe moose is concerned about travel fiascos. i don't know. i think international trips are a great way to bring a team together, not to mention a great recruiting tool. i love that we're going to europe in a few weeks. i'll let the administration worry about travel fiascos and costs.
We're talking two different things here Newsie.
I have no problem with an European excursion for the team or any school for that matter to play Euro teams and get quality practice and bonding time.
However these military games were great when its started. Two teams on a boat surrounded by troops scenic San Diego is great. Then they started adding like 3-4 more and most of them were utter disasters with slippery floors and bad weather. Reminds me of NHL this year. 1 Winter Classic is great. Fine Canada wants a Heritage game for them ok. Now all of a sudden your adding 4 more games in a Stadium Series. Overkill. The joke is the Stadium Series is sponsored by Coors Light so its the Watered Down Stadium Series.
Agreed and now they're not just doing it in NY, FLA and San Diego, they're taking it to Asia. Unnecessary.
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those are kind of different things. The boat things are a thing of the past because of the weather thing. I see nothing wrong with these games at army bases outside of the US as a treat to our troops abroad. Plus it's great for a teams brand to get exposure outside of the US.
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Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march. I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.
I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.
All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions. That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously).
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Nice touch IMO. could our "esteemed AD" give up a day at tanning salon to do likewise? Nice professional touch! We have a lot to be proud of also. Does not have to be a message just about last year. Why not include overall success of sports program. God knows we can spin things on twitter.
Btw, GT is excellent at communicating with alums and potential donors.
“@HoyasUnlimited: Check out this special message from @HoyasAD on the past year in Georgetown Athletics, thanking all of our... http://fb.me/Q3dFbrz0 (http://fb.me/Q3dFbrz0)”
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Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march. I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.
I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.
All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions. That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously).
The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.
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Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march. I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.
I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.
All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions. That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously).
The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.
good point
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Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march. I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.
I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.
All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions. That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously).
The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.
I think the publicity out weighs any "distraction" these games cause. You only get invited to participate in these games if you're big time and playing them keeps you big time.
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You're playing Oregon, right?
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You're playing Oregon, right?
yeah Nike University they get invites because of Nike, but they're also a top 25 team next year so they're a good opponent as well.
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Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march. I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.
I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.
All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions. That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously).
The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.
I think the publicity out weighs any "distraction" these games cause. You only get invited to participate in these games if you're big time and playing them keeps you big time.
Fans older than 12 get excited about these type games?
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Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march. I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.
I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.
All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions. That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously).
The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.
I think the publicity out weighs any "distraction" these games cause. You only get invited to participate in these games if you're big time and playing them keeps you big time.
Fans older than 12 get excited about these type games?
Um yes? These games get heavily promoted. The "type" of game doesn't even matter. People get excited for compelling match ups that are rammed down their throat. They're also great for the team providing them with a great learning opportunity by visiting a country they likely would never get a chance to visit with out this type of game.
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Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march. I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.
I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.
All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions. That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously).
The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.
I think the publicity out weighs any "distraction" these games cause. You only get invited to participate in these games if you're big time and playing them keeps you big time.
Fans older than 12 get excited about these type games?
Um yes? These games get heavily promoted. The "type" of game doesn't even matter. People get excited for compelling match ups that are rammed down their throat. They're also great for the team providing them with a great learning opportunity by visiting a country they likely would never get a chance to visit with out this type of game.
Between Asia, Puerto Rico, and any other non conference games you play, your team is spending most of November away from campus, and at least 2+ of those weeks will be out of country; not in August.. this is after the season starts and smack in the middle of the academic semester. It's not at all the awesome situation you're making it out to be. Could be good, could be bad, but I would certainly have reservations if my team was jet setting across the globe the whole first month of the season.
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Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march. I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.
I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.
All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions. That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously).
The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.
I think the publicity out weighs any "distraction" these games cause. You only get invited to participate in these games if you're big time and playing them keeps you big time.
Fans older than 12 get excited about these type games?
Um yes? These games get heavily promoted. The "type" of game doesn't even matter. People get excited for compelling match ups that are rammed down their throat. They're also great for the team providing them with a great learning opportunity by visiting a country they likely would never get a chance to visit with out this type of game.
Between Asia, Puerto Rico, and any other non conference games you play, your team is spending most of November away from campus, and at least 2+ of those weeks will be out of country; not in August.. this is after the season starts and smack in the middle of the academic semester. It's not at all the awesome situation you're making it out to be. Could be good, could be bad, but I would certainly have reservations if my team was jet setting across the globe the whole first month of the season.
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Call me cynical but I feel like you'd be singing a different tune if it were your team participating.
I honestly don't see what problems there could be: Jet lag? Meh they're young. practice time? Seems like there's plenty of time. School work? They can do work on the plane. Most of our players went to china and Maui they're used to the travel. I see no reason they need to be on campus for any sort of comfort level we only have 1 freshman on the team. We finally have an experienced team. Like St. John's we've been young for the last 3 years. I can't see any risks in playing these games.
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2. New Big East commissioner Val Ackerman said the Big East is a few weeks away from finishing the conference schedule. The old Big East was traditionally one of the last conferences to get their schedule out because of pro commitments in arenas. The Big East and Fox Sports 1 teased the schedule in late June with the announcement of a five-game, New Year's Eve lineup starting at noon with St. John's at Xavier; followed at 2:30 p.m. with Seton Hall at Providence and then DePaul at Georgetown at 5 p.m., followed by Villanova at Butler at 7:30 p.m. and then closing with a headliner of Marquette at Creighton at 10 p.m. EST. Ackerman said she is still looking to make a significant number of hires, especially a full-time person to deal with television relationships. Former Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe continues to act as a consultant for the league and has helped in championship planning. Ackerman is working from a makeshift office in Manhattan but is still searching for long-term office space.
“@eamonnbrennan: 3-point shot: Calipari finds freshmen leaders http://es.pn/174tezl (http://es.pn/174tezl)”
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Opens another scholarship;
“@jmverlin: Villanova announces sophomore guard Mislav Brozja is transferring: http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/08/brozja-to-transfer-from-villanova/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/08/brozja-to-transfer-from-villanova/)”
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Nova has at least 7 guards on their roster next year.
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We'll see;
“@CBTonNBC: Is Josh Smith turning the corner at Georgetown? http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1Y8d (http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1Y8d)”
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GT progress profiles from summer league play;
“@Hoyas247: 2013 Kenner League Report Cards http://georgetown.247sports.com/Article/2013-Kenner-League-Report-Cards-143233 (http://georgetown.247sports.com/Article/2013-Kenner-League-Report-Cards-143233) via @247Sports (FREE) #Hoyas”
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New Big East Conf @NewBigEastConf 3h
Potentially devastating news for #VillanovaWildcats JayVaughn Pinkston. #BigEast
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http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sbnation/villanova/SBNation_20130813_JayVaughn_Pinkston_injury__Forward_is_on_crutches__seeking_MRI.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sbnation/villanova/SBNation_20130813_JayVaughn_Pinkston_injury__Forward_is_on_crutches__seeking_MRI.html)
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Speaking of the Big East, how does the ‘new’ conference look attendance-wise?
Creighton 17,155
Marquette 15,033
Georgetown 10,911
Xavier 9,781
Villanova 8,022
Butler 7,899
Providence 7,772
DePaul 7,681
St. John’s 7,330
Seton Hall 7,035
Creighton is head and shoulders above the pack and will most likely see another boost this season with the influx of higher-profile teams into Omaha. Expect St. John’s to see a nice leap this season as they look to have a borderline NCAA team and fell 13% from 2012 last season. They are a key cog in the overall perception of the league. There might be a drop-off with Georgetown and Villanova with the loss of some close rivalry games, but it shouldn’t be steep if there at all.
This conference would have ranked fifth in the country in attendance with a 9,862 per-game average just below the ACC’s 9,990 average and the Big 12′s 10,289 average.
“@PaintTouches: [New to PT] Marquette attendance down a tad; second best in Big East #mubb http://painttouches.com/2013/08/14/marquette-attendance-second-best-in-big-east/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/08/14/marquette-attendance-second-best-in-big-east/)”
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Big loss;
“@zkeefer: Breaking: #Butler junior Roosevelt Jones is out for the season after tearing ligaments in his left wrist, a source has told The Star.”
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Big loss;
“@zkeefer: Breaking: #Butler junior Roosevelt Jones is out for the season after tearing ligaments in his left wrist, a source has told The Star.”
He's the guy who hit the shot against Gonzaga, right? One of the best games I watched all season .
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“@KevinMcNamara33: With Angel Delgado picking Seton Hall Hall, Big East now has 8 ESPN Top 100 verbals. Excluding Ohio State, Big 10 has 1.”
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“@KevinMcNamara33: With Angel Delgado picking Seton Hall Hall, Big East now has 8 ESPN Top 100 verbals. Excluding Ohio State, Big 10 has 1.”
Wassup with the "excluding Ohio State"?
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“@KevinMcNamara33: With Angel Delgado picking Seton Hall Hall, Big East now has 8 ESPN Top 100 verbals. Excluding Ohio State, Big 10 has 1.”
Wassup with the "excluding Ohio State"?
Don't know, but our league overall is recruiting quite well since the split, and that is with SJU having zero top 100 commits right now. Encouraging for our league. Now I'd just like to see SJU get involved with a few.
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“@KevinMcNamara33: With Angel Delgado picking Seton Hall Hall, Big East now has 8 ESPN Top 100 verbals. Excluding Ohio State, Big 10 has 1.”
Wassup with the "excluding Ohio State"?
Probably because they must have numerous top recruits and writer was trying to make the point that Big Ten is not doing that well compared to BE. Sort of like saying except for that one pitch where the pitcher gave up a grand slam he pitched great. I always think it is silly to do this.
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Veteran sports marketer Ann Wells Crandall is joining the new Big East Conference as its first CMO. She will begin her new job Sept. 10, based in N.Y. and reporting to Commissioner Val Ackerman. Crandall will oversee marketing and sales, including brand development, advertising and promotion, corporate sales and sponsorship, licensing and digital strategies. She will also oversee the conference’s relationships with FS1 and MSG, which will host the Big East basketball tournament. Crandall most recently served as Pac-12 Enterprises Exec VP/Business Development & Strategic Partnerships.
(Sports Business Journal)
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“@MBohlin247: #BigEast Tip-Off Party announced for October 25th. http://georgetown.247sports.com/Board/59467/Big-East-Tip-Off-Party-20874778 (http://georgetown.247sports.com/Board/59467/Big-East-Tip-Off-Party-20874778) #Hoyas (FREE)”
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I love that FS1 isn't just being passive but playing such an active role in promoting the league.
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“@PaintTouches: 2014 Ahmed Hill expected to take an official visit to Marquette in the coming weeks. Golden Eagles in good standing w/ the top-40 SG. #mubb”
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1. The Big East will announce its conference schedule on Thursday and according to at least one source the league will end the season as it should -- with its highest-profile series between Georgetown and Villanova in Philadelphia. The Big East has a few historical rivalries and the chance to build a few long-term matchups like Creighton-Marquette and Butler-Xavier. The Big East has the opportunity to maximize its traditional teams, especially rivalries and now has a real chance to bookend its first season as a 10-team league with quality games. The Big East and its television partner Fox had already announced a New Year's Eve opening day of five games -- St. John's at Xavier, Seton Hall at Providence, DePaul at Georgetown, Villanova at Butler and Marquette at Creighton. The conference is making the right call in highlighting its two highest-rated teams for television on the final game of the regular season.
“@eamonnbrennan: 3-point shot: Big East’s big plan http://es.pn/17Gv2z7 (http://es.pn/17Gv2z7)”
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I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
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I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
If its not gtown, it will be Prov or hall.
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I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
DePaul isn't anyone's rival
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I don't know if this was already confirmed, but the big east tourney will be wednesday through saturday. http://www.bigeast.org/ot/big-east-champ-schedule-13.html (http://www.bigeast.org/ot/big-east-champ-schedule-13.html)
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I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
If its not gtown, it will be Prov or hall.
Xavier / Butler
Creighton / Marquette
Gtown / Nova
Leaves Seton Hall, Providence Depaul and St. John's
St. John's Depaul...NY vs Chicago makes the most sense.
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I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
If its not gtown, it will be Prov or hall.
Xavier / Butler
Creighton / Marquette
Gtown / Nova
Leaves Seton Hall, Providence Depaul and St. John's
St. John's Depaul...NY vs Chicago makes the most sense.
Sched was released. We were both wrong. We got Marquette.
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I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
If its not gtown, it will be Prov or hall.
Xavier / Butler
Creighton / Marquette
Gtown / Nova
Leaves Seton Hall, Providence Depaul and St. John's
St. John's Depaul...NY vs Chicago makes the most sense.
Sched was released. We were both wrong. We got Marquette.
Marquette is great. Didn't want to draw DePaul there... I hope DePaul gets better though.
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I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
If its not gtown, it will be Prov or hall.
Xavier / Butler
Creighton / Marquette
Gtown / Nova
Leaves Seton Hall, Providence Depaul and St. John's
St. John's Depaul...NY vs Chicago makes the most sense.
Sched was released. We were both wrong. We got Marquette.
Marquette is great. Didn't want to draw DePaul there... I hope DePaul gets better though.
I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
If its not gtown, it will be Prov or hall.
Xavier / Butler
Creighton / Marquette
Gtown / Nova
Leaves Seton Hall, Providence Depaul and St. John's
St. John's Depaul...NY vs Chicago makes the most sense.
Sched was released. We were both wrong. We got Marquette.
Marquette is great. Didn't want to draw DePaul there... I hope DePaul gets better though.
I'm guessing Depaul will be our rivalry. NY vs CHI
If its not gtown, it will be Prov or hall.
Xavier / Butler
Creighton / Marquette
Gtown / Nova
Leaves Seton Hall, Providence Depaul and St. John's
St. John's Depaul...NY vs Chicago makes the most sense.
Sched was released. We were both wrong. We got Marquette.
Marquette is great. Didn't want to draw DePaul there... I hope DePaul gets better though.
Marquette has zero proximity to NY. How is that a rival in a college sport? When we are a player again, and our students actually have enough respect for the program and themselves, how will they get to Wisconsin? We can't get their sorry asses to MSG.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/xavier-athletic-director-says-big-east-likely-expand-200942236--ncaab.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/xavier-athletic-director-says-big-east-likely-expand-200942236--ncaab.html)
“I think the Big East will expand … from 10 to 12. I’m not sure it’s actually set in stone but it does appear to be headed that way” – Xavier AD Greg Christopher, on the conference possibly looking to add schools from the Atlantic 10
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/xavier-athletic-director-says-big-east-likely-expand-200942236--ncaab.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/xavier-athletic-director-says-big-east-likely-expand-200942236--ncaab.html)
“I think the Big East will expand … from 10 to 12. I’m not sure it’s actually set in stone but it does appear to be headed that way” – Xavier AD Greg Christopher, on the conference possibly looking to add schools from the Atlantic 10
The writing is on the wall that it will happen. At this point, I'm starting to think it will be St. Louis and VCU. Since their pledge against football and lobby for this league, I think VCU makes lots of sense. They are a good program with a big enrollment and fan support. Prior I thought it would be Richmond, but my guess is that the league might end up leaning to VCU. I think the other will be St. Louis to add a different market.
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Make that St Louis and Dayton!
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Make that St Louis and Dayton!
Hope not
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Make that St Louis and Dayton!
No need for Dayton when we have Xavier less than an hour away. Having either VCU or Richmond in ACC country is what I'd like to add.
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Make that St Louis and Dayton!
No need for Dayton when we have Xavier less than an hour away. Having either VCU or Richmond in ACC country is what I'd like to add.
The problem is that schools are (or at least were) pushing Dayton -- St. John's included.
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Make that St Louis and Dayton!
No need for Dayton when we have Xavier less than an hour away. Having either VCU or Richmond in ACC country is what I'd like to add.
The problem is that schools are (or at least were) pushing Dayton -- St. John's included.
Well what should Catholic Schools in the midwest be pushing!
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Make that St Louis and Dayton!
No need for Dayton when we have Xavier less than an hour away. Having either VCU or Richmond in ACC country is what I'd like to add.
The problem is that schools are (or at least were) pushing Dayton -- St. John's included.
I just think that adding St. Louis and a school in ACC country is the best bet. VCU has great momentum and could really be a boon for the conference in that region. The Anti-ACC school in Virginia. St. Louis just seems a better fit than Dayton IMO, but I'd rather have to choose between the Billikens and Flyers.
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Fox will want to get into the St. Louis market for sure and VCU had as an attractive head coach to market in Smart and would be a no brainer.
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Fox will want to get into the St. Louis market for sure and VCU had as an attractive head coach to market in Smart and would be a no brainer.
Like Brad Stevens late of Butler?
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Don't underestimate influence of Presidents of Catholic schools to push Dayton. Not my choice, but just saying.
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Don't underestimate influence of Presidents of Catholic schools to push Dayton. Not my choice, but just saying.
No why not say just thinking. A lesson learned 6 Catholic school got involved with one state university and one private school the second addition was a once private school which had became a public university. And before anyone knew what was going the football playing schools were wagging the dog tail. Presidents of Catholic school know Dayton is not going to go to D1 football.
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Don't underestimate influence of Presidents of Catholic schools to push Dayton. Not my choice, but just saying.
No why not say just thinking. A lesson learned 6 Catholic school got involved with one state university and one private school the second addition was a once private school which had became a public university. And before anyone knew what was going the football playing schools were wagging the dog tail. Presidents of Catholic school know Dayton is not going to go to D1 football.
Fair point.
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The MAJOR thing against Dayton is Location. There are no direct, non stop flights from virtually every Catholic 7 city except once a day from LaGuardia. this is a negative; while St Louis is non stop (and cheaper) from virtually all C7 cities.
Wouldn't it be ironic if Yukon realized they were NOT a football power and never will be and dropped their FB to a lower division so that could ask to rejoin the BE. As it stands now when all BE teams move out of the "AAC" and yukon is left with a second rate FB and BB conference and is traveling all over the country for their conference games; athletics will be a big time money loser for the state of CN. They will become one of the cannon fodder teams for the majoe FB conferences just so they can make some money.
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6'4" shooting guard, 4 star Rivals player;
“@JonRothstein: Very good get for Chris Mack RT @EvanDanielsFOX: JP Macura tweeted that he committed to Xavier.”
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i think D1 football should not be an automatic disqualifier for future BE membership.
For example, UMass would be a good addition. They can play basketball in the BE and keep their football in the MAC. No major conference is EVER going to target them. Every school in the MAC, Conf USA, WAC, Mountain West, would have to be taken before UMass goes to a major conference.
Dayton is a school that I would have chosen over Butler, but I would rather look elsewhere at this point. It might be a good idea to see what happens with BYU over the next couple of years, and if the B-12 or ACC dont take them, their football may be looking at eternal independence, in which case their basketball program might be a good BE target.
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i think D1 football should not be an automatic disqualifier for future BE membership.
For example, UMass would be a good addition. They can play basketball in the BE and keep their football in the MAC. No major conference is EVER going to target them. Every school in the MAC, Conf USA, WAC, Mountain West, would have to be taken before UMass goes to a major conference.
Dayton is a school that I would have chosen over Butler, but I would rather look elsewhere at this point. It might be a good idea to see what happens with BYU over the next couple of years, and if the B-12 or ACC dont take them, their football may be looking at eternal independence, in which case their basketball program might be a good BE target.
I agree...some schools are just never going to have big time FB programs..I would have liked to see the BE take Temple
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"Syracuse Athletic Director Daryl Gross said Wednesday night on his radio show on TK99 that there is a 10-year basketball contract on the table that would bring Syracuse and Georgetown together on the hardwood.
Gross said Syracuse signed the contract and is waiting for Georgetown to sign off on it. There was no mention of when the games would be played."
“@MinkNate: In addition to Georgetown note, Gross also had update on indoor football practice facility: http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2013/09/syracuse_athletic_director_dar_1.html#incart_river_default (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2013/09/syracuse_athletic_director_dar_1.html#incart_river_default)”
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"Syracuse Athletic Director Daryl Gross said Wednesday night on his radio show on TK99 that there is a 10-year basketball contract on the table that would bring Syracuse and Georgetown together on the hardwood.
Gross said Syracuse signed the contract and is waiting for Georgetown to sign off on it. There was no mention of when the games would be played."
“@MinkNate: In addition to Georgetown note, Gross also had update on indoor football practice facility: http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2013/09/syracuse_athletic_director_dar_1.html#incart_river_default (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2013/09/syracuse_athletic_director_dar_1.html#incart_river_default)”
"Executive Senior Associate Athletics Director/Chief Communications Officer for External Affairs Joe Giansante clarified that no official contract has been signed, but Syracuse has agreed to the "concept" of the series and is waiting to hear back from Georgetown."
SMH. I think the deal eventually gets done, but Cuse is a bunch of clowns. Their AD is either full of shit (most likely) or misspoke pretty badly saying he had signed a contract that does not even exist>
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"Syracuse Athletic Director Daryl Gross said Wednesday night on his radio show on TK99 that there is a 10-year basketball contract on the table that would bring Syracuse and Georgetown together on the hardwood.
Gross said Syracuse signed the contract and is waiting for Georgetown to sign off on it. There was no mention of when the games would be played."
“@MinkNate: In addition to Georgetown note, Gross also had update on indoor football practice facility: http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2013/09/syracuse_athletic_director_dar_1.html#incart_river_default (http://blog.syracuse.com/sports/2013/09/syracuse_athletic_director_dar_1.html#incart_river_default)”
"Executive Senior Associate Athletics Director/Chief Communications Officer for External Affairs Joe Giansante clarified that no official contract has been signed, but Syracuse has agreed to the "concept" of the series and is waiting to hear back from Georgetown."
SMH. I think the deal eventually gets done, but Cuse is a bunch of clowns. Their AD is either full of shit (most likely) or misspoke pretty badly saying he had signed a contract that does not even exist>
You want the series though right?
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As long as it is a true home and home then yes. I definitely want the series. I do not want to settle for the deal Nova did or 1 home 1 away and 1 @ MSG.
I just worry about cuse screwing up the deal by trying to put public pressure on Georgetown to sign a deal (especially since no such deal existed) The last team to try this was Maryland. And we're now further than ever from having a basketball series with them as a result.
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Jim B would be willing to play GT in NYC. Shocking!
"Boeheim said the discussions with Georgetown are for a home-and-home series rotating annually between the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, N.Y. and the Verizon Center in Washington D.C., but the Hoyas also mentioned playing a game in New York City."
"I would do that,'' Boeheim said. "We could do either one.''
“@ESPNAndyKatz: Syracuse, G'town working to extend rivalry with interesting quotes from Boeheim today: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9665796/syracuse-georgetown-working-10-year-proposal-extend-college-basketball-rivalry (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9665796/syracuse-georgetown-working-10-year-proposal-extend-college-basketball-rivalry)”
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“@Kieran_Lynch: Big East Media Day will take place Oct. 16 at Chelsea Piers per a release. #sjubb”
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“@joehoopsreport: Young's Paul White commitment to Georgetown came down to his feel and comfort level with staff, program, school ... http://bit.ly/17Yvfj9 (http://bit.ly/17Yvfj9)”
6'9 Four Star PF.
Georgetown's impressive recruiting class now includes the top 100 trio of White, Peak and 6-8 forward and top 50 recruit Isaac Copeland, along with point guard Tre Campbell.
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“@eamonnbrennan: Top 10 Tuesday: Teams with most to prove http://es.pn/188K2WX (http://es.pn/188K2WX)”
2. Creighton: Doug McDermott's shot to become the first player since Wayman Tisdale and Patrick Ewing to win three straight first-team All-Americans is -- well, it's a lot of things. It's fantastic shorthand for the evolution (devolution?) of college basketball in the past 20 years. It's a fascinating footnote in the narrative of a player whose father didn't even recruit him to play at Iowa State. And, of course, it's testament to McDermott's consistent individual brilliance. What it is not is a sign of Creighton's collective national success. McDermott has been must-watch viewing these past two seasons, and his teams have been just as brilliant offensively -- free-flowing, smart, up-tempo, fun. But because the Bluejays have never quite built a solid defense on the other end of the floor, they've been limited -- unable to get big stops when they need them in the NCAA tournament. This year, individual brilliance and offensive aesthetics will be old hat. This year, Creighton is expected to do even more. First, they have to prove they can guard.
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just took a look at the big east website for the first time and I have to say it is very disappointing. nowhere could I find standings for each sport, a listing of all the sports, team rosters or anything like that. they def need to spend some time updating the site to make it worth visiting, its pretty terrible at the moment
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just took a look at the big east website for the first time and I have to say it is very disappointing. nowhere could I find standings for each sport, a listing of all the sports, team rosters or anything like that. they def need to spend some time updating the site to make it worth visiting, its pretty terrible at the moment
It would have been great in 1997.
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just took a look at the big east website for the first time and I have to say it is very disappointing. nowhere could I find standings for each sport, a listing of all the sports, team rosters or anything like that. they def need to spend some time updating the site to make it worth visiting, its pretty terrible at the moment
I don't understand why people care about the conference website that much. I'm guessing the reason the launch was delayed was to coincide with the announcement of CBS' TV partnership (you'll notice it's a CBS-run website). Websites iterate over time, and I am sure it will be in a fine place in the next few months.
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just took a look at the big east website for the first time and I have to say it is very disappointing. nowhere could I find standings for each sport, a listing of all the sports, team rosters or anything like that. they def need to spend some time updating the site to make it worth visiting, its pretty terrible at the moment
I don't understand why people care about the conference website that much. I'm guessing the reason the launch was delayed was to coincide with the announcement of CBS' TV partnership (you'll notice it's a CBS-run website). Websites iterate over time, and I am sure it will be in a fine place in the next few months.
+1
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If you'll notice it also says that what is up is still just a temporary site and the final site is still not up yet.
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“@5starbasketball: 5 Reasons Why: @georgetownhoyas Is Leading The Recruiting Class of 2014 http://bit.ly/185l10v (http://bit.ly/185l10v) #5StarApproved”
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
Were hopeful or are hopeful? Are we out?
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
Were hopeful or are hopeful? Are we out?
Don't know.
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
Were hopeful or are hopeful? Are we out?
Were we ever in? I dont recall his name and ours ever linked
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
Were hopeful or are hopeful? Are we out?
Were we ever in? I dont recall his name and ours ever linked
Our name has never been linked but staff has definitely been down there on 2 occasions.
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
Were hopeful or are hopeful? Are we out?
Were we ever in? I dont recall his name and ours ever linked
Our name has never been linked but staff has definitely been down there on 2 occasions.
But hey, let's all keep making stupid Lipscomb jokes.
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
Were hopeful or are hopeful? Are we out?
Were we ever in? I dont recall his name and ours ever linked
Our name has never been linked but staff has definitely been down there on 2 occasions.
But hey, let's all keep making stupid Lipscomb jokes.
Lipscomb and Liny - never ending "go to" sources for laughs.
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Tiny M looking all over for Wright's phone number; :)
“@VUhoops: "All signs are pointing to Villanova assistant coach Billy Lange joining the Sixers" http://sbn.to/1eHtCw0 (http://sbn.to/1eHtCw0)”
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Brother played for Cuse, nice upside it appears;
“@CasualHoya: Class of 2014 center Chinanu Onuaku taking an official visit to Georgetown this weekend. (HT @HoyaNation) http://sbn.to/19nyVIv (http://sbn.to/19nyVIv)”
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Looks like DePaul is making progress on the arena front.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/22749049-418/mcpier-picks-architect-for-depaul-arena.html (http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/22749049-418/mcpier-picks-architect-for-depaul-arena.html)
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130923/BLOGS04/130929950/mcpier-approves-new-depaul-arena-design (http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130923/BLOGS04/130929950/mcpier-approves-new-depaul-arena-design)
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/22749049-418/mcpier-picks-architect-for-depaul-arena.html (http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/22749049-418/mcpier-picks-architect-for-depaul-arena.html)
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
Were hopeful or are hopeful? Are we out?
Were we ever in? I dont recall his name and ours ever linked
Our name has never been linked but staff has definitely been down there on 2 occasions.
But hey, let's all keep making stupid Lipscomb jokes.
Lipscomb and Liny - never ending "go to" sources for laughs.
Lipscomb looks like a legit college basketball player to me. Not saying you feel this way (just responding to your post because of the reference), but some of you guys are just nuts. Yeah, let's publicly make fun of a hard-working walkon whose father has serious players in his program.
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Brother played for Cuse, nice upside it appears;
“@CasualHoya: Class of 2014 center Chinanu Onuaku taking an official visit to Georgetown this weekend. (HT @HoyaNation) http://sbn.to/19nyVIv (http://sbn.to/19nyVIv)”
His brother was gigantic. Whatever happened to him? I know he got hurt.
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Giddens is the big we were hopeful about from Lipscomb's alma mater;
“@OntheRadarHoops: Marquette will be in this afternoon to see 2015's Daniel Giddens & Jaylen Brown Wheeler (GA)”
Were hopeful or are hopeful? Are we out?
Were we ever in? I dont recall his name and ours ever linked
Our name has never been linked but staff has definitely been down there on 2 occasions.
But hey, let's all keep making stupid Lipscomb jokes.
Lipscomb and Liny - never ending "go to" sources for laughs.
Lipscomb looks like a legit college basketball player to me. Not saying you feel this way (just responding to your post because of the reference), but some of you guys are just nuts. Yeah, let's publicly make fun of a hard-working walkon whose father has serious players in his program.
Lets be fair though. Nobody had any idea who his dad was and what the motives were pretty much until the season was over.
As for him being a legit college player, I will agree to disagree.
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@EvanDanielsFOX: The new Big East currently has more top 100 commitments than every league, except the ACC.
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GT seems to be creative in ticket sales promotions. I also noticed they will fully reimburse students who buy season tickets if they attend every game. Not sure how they monitor that, but why not try something novel?
“@HoyaHoopClub: Mini plans available soon for home games. Pick any 5 games for $225 (100 lvl) or $150 (400 lvl). Check out http://www.wearegeorgetown.com/tickets/ (http://www.wearegeorgetown.com/tickets/) for info.”
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Xavier got a commitment from a four star PF today and;
@EvanDanielsFOX: The ACC has 17 top 100 recruits for the 2014 class. Big East now up to 14. There are still 34 available top 100 recruits.
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Xavier got a commitment from a four star PF today and;
@EvanDanielsFOX: The ACC has 17 top 100 recruits for the 2014 class. Big East now up to 14. There are still 34 available top 100 recruits.
That's pretty impressive.
But does the BE get more notoriety having their top100 talent spread out, or if we had one or two flagship programs like Kansas in the big 12. Arizona or UCLA in the PAC 12 etc.?
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“@JonRothstein: Villanova isn't being mentioned as a contender at the top of the Big East - but they should. Cats' sum is greater than its parts.”
@JonRothstein: Early prediction on Villanova starting five --- Ryan Arcidiacono, Darrun Hilliard, James Bell, Jayvaughn Pinkston, Daniel Ochefu...
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Xavier got a commitment from a four star PF today and;
@EvanDanielsFOX: The ACC has 17 top 100 recruits for the 2014 class. Big East now up to 14. There are still 34 available top 100 recruits.
That's pretty impressive.
But does the BE get more notoriety having their top100 talent spread out, or if we had one or two flagship programs like Kansas in the big 12. Arizona or UCLA in the PAC 12 etc.?
Notoriety will come when top to bottom we are loading up on top players. Not sure is a league that is going to be this competitive from 1-10. The "flagship" programs will separate themselves over the next few years, but the truth is that we will benefit most from putting a lot of teams in the tourney and having our teams advance against other conferences. Recruiting for the Big East out the gate has been fantastic though.
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Xavier got a commitment from a four star PF today and;
@EvanDanielsFOX: The ACC has 17 top 100 recruits for the 2014 class. Big East now up to 14. There are still 34 available top 100 recruits.
That's pretty impressive.
But does the BE get more notoriety having their top100 talent spread out, or if we had one or two flagship programs like Kansas in the big 12. Arizona or UCLA in the PAC 12 etc.?
Notoriety will come when top to bottom we are loading up on top players. Not sure is a league that is going to be this competitive from 1-10. The "flagship" programs will separate themselves over the next few years, but the truth is that we will benefit most from putting a lot of teams in the tourney and having our teams advance against other conferences. Recruiting for the Big East out the gate has been fantastic though.
I tend to agree. I'd rather have 6 teams in the dance. If we have enough teams that are competitive, some team will break-through.
But itll be interesting to see if the BE gets credit for a strong league even if we don't have that top 5 program for pundits to point at.
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“@JonRothstein: .@VUCoachJWright on teams to watch in the Big East "St. John's and Providence. They're going to be better than people think."”
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Xavier got a commitment from a four star PF today and;
@EvanDanielsFOX: The ACC has 17 top 100 recruits for the 2014 class. Big East now up to 14. There are still 34 available top 100 recruits.
That's pretty impressive.
But does the BE get more notoriety having their top100 talent spread out, or if we had one or two flagship programs like Kansas in the big 12. Arizona or UCLA in the PAC 12 etc.?
Notoriety will come when top to bottom we are loading up on top players. Not sure is a league that is going to be this competitive from 1-10. The "flagship" programs will separate themselves over the next few years, but the truth is that we will benefit most from putting a lot of teams in the tourney and having our teams advance against other conferences. Recruiting for the Big East out the gate has been fantastic though.
I tend to agree. I'd rather have 6 teams in the dance. If we have enough teams that are competitive, some team will break-through.
But itll be interesting to see if the BE gets credit for a strong league even if we don't have that top 5 program for pundits to point at.
I believe this will be a highly competitive league, which will make for great TV and engender respect around the country. Out of the gate, a lot has been accomplished. The new BE IMO may never compare to hay day of the original group, but it will evolve positively. Separation from football schools was the only real choice and one well worth taking.
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I think we are going to run away with the conference. Solid at every position
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Xavier got a commitment from a four star PF today and;
@EvanDanielsFOX: The ACC has 17 top 100 recruits for the 2014 class. Big East now up to 14. There are still 34 available top 100 recruits.
That's pretty impressive.
But does the BE get more notoriety having their top100 talent spread out, or if we had one or two flagship programs like Kansas in the big 12. Arizona or UCLA in the PAC 12 etc.?
Notoriety will come when top to bottom we are loading up on top players. Not sure is a league that is going to be this competitive from 1-10. The "flagship" programs will separate themselves over the next few years, but the truth is that we will benefit most from putting a lot of teams in the tourney and having our teams advance against other conferences. Recruiting for the Big East out the gate has been fantastic though.
I tend to agree. I'd rather have 6 teams in the dance. If we have enough teams that are competitive, some team will break-through.
But itll be interesting to see if the BE gets credit for a strong league even if we don't have that top 5 program for pundits to point at.
I believe this will be a highly competitive league, which will make for great TV and engender respect around the country. Out of the gate, a lot has been accomplished. The new BE IMO may never compare to hay day of the original group, but it will evolve positively. Separation from football schools was the only real choice and one well worth taking.
I definitely agree Paultz. From a national fan's perspective, I don't know how enticing our games will be compared to the other conferences. But I also don't really care about that.
I think, like you said, that our conference will be highly competitive, and I think the fact we do a home and away with each team now, adds a little something to the season for fans. That should make for great viewing.
As long as the fox announcers are halfway decent it should be a fun season.
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“@CasualHoya: Georgetown has been invited to play in 2015 doubleheader at Barclays Center along with former Big Easters Louisville, Rutgers and Cincy.”
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“@CasualHoya: Georgetown has been invited to play in 2015 doubleheader at Barclays Center along with former Big Easters Louisville, Rutgers and Cincy.”
Sure hope it's Georgetown vs. Louisville and Rutgers vs. Cincinnati.
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“@EvanDanielsFOX: Interesting development in the Chinanu Onuaku recruitment. Thought to be down to Louisville & Miami ... he'll visit Georgetown this weekend.”
“@GoodmanESPN: @EvanDanielsFOX Few are better at going underground in recruiting than the Hoyas.”
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Too bad we don't recruit anymore
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Too bad we don't recruit anymore
LOL every time a read the crawl on espn and it says recruiting I hope it is us getting a commitment and than I say what could I have been thinking!
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Forget about a commitment at this time. Id be happy seeing some 2014 targets.
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If recruiting rankings were based on instagram photos....ST Johns would be number 1
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“@eamonnbrennan: Smith is big question for Georgetown http://es.pn/18FYOV7 (http://es.pn/18FYOV7)”
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CBS predictions. SJU ranges from no. 2 (Gottleib) to no. 7 from Jerry Palm.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/23932001/college-basketball-preview-conference-predictions?utm_content=buffer64b0a&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/23932001/college-basketball-preview-conference-predictions?utm_content=buffer64b0a&utm_source=buffer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer)
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“@QSJUHoops: Lavin: New Big East puts members on level ground, won't require different style. #sjubb http://sbn.to/18K9GBF (http://sbn.to/18K9GBF)”
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“@TheBBallDiary: St John's University is bringing Chris Obekpa, D'Angelo Harrison, Jakarr Sampson, Phil Greene IV, Sir'Dominic Pointer to Big East Media Day.”
October 16
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“@jerrymeyer247: Big East is doing a phenomenal job recruiting. Top 6 schools in conference are in the top 21 of the national rankings http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=Big-East (http://247sports.com/Season/2014-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings?Conference=Big-East)”
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“@TheBBallDiary: St John's University is bringing Chris Obekpa, D'Angelo Harrison, Jakarr Sampson, Phil Greene IV, Sir'Dominic Pointer to Big East Media Day.”
October 16
Guess we have our starting 5. :-\
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“@TheBBallDiary: St John's University is bringing Chris Obekpa, D'Angelo Harrison, Jakarr Sampson, Phil Greene IV, Sir'Dominic Pointer to Big East Media Day.”
October 16
Guess we have our starting 5. :-\
oh i hope not..
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http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/10/georgetown-coach-kevin-brown-on-administrative-leave-for-alleged-verbal-abuse-94749.html#.UkuIxZo7kM4.twitter (http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/10/georgetown-coach-kevin-brown-on-administrative-leave-for-alleged-verbal-abuse-94749.html#.UkuIxZo7kM4.twitter)
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“@TheBBallDiary: St John's University is bringing Chris Obekpa, D'Angelo Harrison, Jakarr Sampson, Phil Greene IV, Sir'Dominic Pointer to Big East Media Day.”
October 16
Guess we have our starting 5. :-\
These are just our veterans from last season.
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Fwiw;
“@BigEastDaily: Big East Basketball: Power Ranking the Top 25 Players http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2 (http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2)”
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Fwiw;
“@BigEastDaily: Big East Basketball: Power Ranking the Top 25 Players http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2 (http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2)”
And we're all hoping that Sanchez is high on that list by season's end.
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“@TheBBallDiary: St John's University is bringing Chris Obekpa, D'Angelo Harrison, Jakarr Sampson, Phil Greene IV, Sir'Dominic Pointer to Big East Media Day.”
October 16
Guess we have our starting 5. :-\
For the first few games, I'm fine with that, but if when Jordan, Sanchez, Hooper or Branch come into games they play much better, a change will be made. Greene should be given a chance to keep his job. He did nothing to deserve a spot buried on the bench. Is that likely? Of course not. I think Lavin will want to fair, and he doesn't want to develop a rep as a guy who recruits over hard working kids who have held their own. And at best, Greene has held his own.
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Fwiw;
“@BigEastDaily: Big East Basketball: Power Ranking the Top 25 Players http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2 (http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2)”
So Brandon Young is the 6th best player in the BE, and Gene Teague is 7th. Have they been confused with other players?
Gene Teague isn't the 7th best player in New Jersey.
IMO, Smith-Rivera should be in the top 5.
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Fwiw;
“@BigEastDaily: Big East Basketball: Power Ranking the Top 25 Players http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2 (http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2)”
So Brandon Young is the 6th best player in the BE, and Gene Teague is 7th. Have they been confused with other players?
Gene Teague isn't the 7th best player in New Jersey.
IMO, Smith-Rivera should be in the top 5.
Its Bleacher Report. The guy who wrote the article is a 23 year old kid who's an auto claims processor at State Farm Insurance.
Seriously...that's what he does.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-curi/4b/582/916 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-curi/4b/582/916)
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Fwiw;
“@BigEastDaily: Big East Basketball: Power Ranking the Top 25 Players http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2 (http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2)”
So Brandon Young is the 6th best player in the BE, and Gene Teague is 7th. Have they been confused with other players?
Gene Teague isn't the 7th best player in New Jersey.
IMO, Smith-Rivera should be in the top 5.
Its Bleacher Report. The guy who wrote the article is a 23 year old kid who's an auto claims processor at State Farm Insurance.
Seriously...that's what he does.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-curi/4b/582/916 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-curi/4b/582/916)
He also said every single SJU player was picked too high. I wonder if he has ever watched a SJU game in his life.
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Fwiw;
“@BigEastDaily: Big East Basketball: Power Ranking the Top 25 Players http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2 (http://www.snsanalytics.com/pnwly2)”
So Brandon Young is the 6th best player in the BE, and Gene Teague is 7th. Have they been confused with other players?
Gene Teague isn't the 7th best player in New Jersey.
IMO, Smith-Rivera should be in the top 5.
Its Bleacher Report. The guy who wrote the article is a 23 year old kid who's an auto claims processor at State Farm Insurance.
Seriously...that's what he does.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-curi/4b/582/916 (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-curi/4b/582/916)
He also said every single SJU player was picked too high. I wonder if he has ever watched a SJU game in his life.
Well if they weren't picked too high we have 4 in the top 15 and 5 in top 21 so we should finish 1st in the conference! :)
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After breaking UCLA commitment;
“@EvanDanielsFOX: I'm sure there will be plenty of schools involved with Trevon Bluiett, but bank on Xavier and Butler being involved.”
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After breaking UCLA commitment;
“@EvanDanielsFOX: I'm sure there will be plenty of schools involved with Trevon Bluiett, but bank on Xavier and Butler being involved.”
Guess he didn't need to add-but not St. John's.
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During football on Fox today, there was a nice little promotional commercial for Big East Basketball on Fox Sports 1. If I remember correctly, the opening moments of the promo showed both St. John's and Georgetown banners and then cycled through rest of the Big East teams. It was a slick, well put together commercial. I like the promotion of our conference.
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Interesting piece IMO;
“@CasualHoya: Coaching Roundup: Georgetown's Off-Season Coaching Changes http://sbn.to/1e3KGsa (http://sbn.to/1e3KGsa)”
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“@eamonnbrennan: 3-point shot: Creighton's outlook http://es.pn/1amnP8m (http://es.pn/1amnP8m)”
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This guy is right out of Hoosiers.
“@NewBigEastConf: Excellent article on #Butler head coach Brandon Miller. #BigEast http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9786661/brandon-miller-now-man-charge-butler (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9786661/brandon-miller-now-man-charge-butler)”
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Creighton-
http://www.omaha.com/article/20131009/BLUEJAYS/131008609 (http://www.omaha.com/article/20131009/BLUEJAYS/131008609)
Creighton officials yesterday formally unveiled a new athletic logo at their basketball arena, CenturyLink Center, and public reaction "seemed generally favorable among the 3,000 people in attendance." The logo features a "multicolored Bluejay, with a huge letter C in the background." Other sport-specific logos unveiled on the arena's new video board "featured a Bluejay's head on top of the word Creighton." This is "part of a university-wide rebranding that the school decided to embark on after Creighton became a member of the new Big East in mid-March"
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I like the new Creighton logo, although I think the one on the court should have been smaller. I wonder why we couldn't have done our rebranding as expeditiously as they did.
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“@jmverlin: Good morning, everybody! Final school-specific preview stuff on CoBL today as we look at Villanova: http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/10/2013-14-season-primer-villanova-wildcats/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/10/2013-14-season-primer-villanova-wildcats/)”
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Fwiw
“@nybuckets: Our Big East preview content continues today with @HudsonGiles' 10 players with breakout potential: http://www.nycbuckets.com/2013/10/big-east-breakout-candidates-in-2013-14/ (http://www.nycbuckets.com/2013/10/big-east-breakout-candidates-in-2013-14/)”
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“@AdamZagoria: Marquette Hosts Big Recruiting Weekend http://zagsblog.com/articles/marquette-hosts-big-recruiting-weekend/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/marquette-hosts-big-recruiting-weekend/)”
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The top-60 recruit in the country chose the Golden Eagles over Missouri and Indiana. Hill, a 6-foot-4 shooting guard from Georgia, is Buzz Williams’ third commitment in the class, joining wings Sandy Cohen and Malek Harris.
A source revealed to Paint Touches in late September that Hill was leaning heavily toward the Golden Eagles after an impressive in-home visit from Buzz Williams and the coaching staff. Hill reportedly wanted to take his official visit to Marquette before cementing his decision, which he did this this weekend during Marquette Madness.
“@PaintTouches: Some PT reposts for you: Ahmed Hill gives an oral commitment to Marquette: http://bit.ly/19GI4eR (http://bit.ly/19GI4eR) #mubb”
“@PaintTouches: PM repost: Your official Marquette Madness recap: http://bit.ly/17mBWZm (http://bit.ly/17mBWZm) #mubb”
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“@DalyDoseOfHoops: The first half of our two-part @BigEastMBB roundtable, where 9 out of 10 schools' media members share their insights: http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2013/10/big-east-roundtable-part-i.html (http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2013/10/big-east-roundtable-part-i.html)”
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Vulnerable guard play imo, especially PG, but tough up front;
@CBTonNBC: 2013-2014 Season Preview: No. 14 Marquette Golden Eagles http://t.co/4OMIYG1AH1 (http://t.co/4OMIYG1AH1)
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“@CBTonNBC: #POSTERIZED: Jamil Wilson dunks all over Chris Otule at Midnight Madness http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1Zez (http://wp.me/p1aWjM-1Zez)”
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“@jmverlin: 2013-14 Season Preview: Big East Primer http://bit.ly/196GKVJ (http://bit.ly/196GKVJ)”
4. St. John’s Red Storm (17-16, 8-10 Big East)
Coach: Steve Lavin – 4th season, 51-47 (.520)
Postseason: NIT Second round (Defeated St. Joe’s, lost to Virginia)
RPI/KenPom: 91/104
Key loss(es): Amir Garrett (5.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
Starters returning: 4
Name to know: Orlando Sanchez. Other than JaKarr Sampson, who showed promise but was also prone to inconsistency during his freshman season, the Red Storm did not have any bigs who could generate frontcourt offense. Sanchez sat out last season and only has one year of eligibility remaining, but could be the Johnny needed operate in the middle of the court.
Based on the team’s European trip, Sanchez will likely start, and while his offensive debut was not seamless – Big Apple Buckets’ John Templon calculated the 6’9” Sanchez’s offensive rating as below 100 – his ability to flash to the free throw line, put the ball on the ground and shift opposing defense will help create openings for SJU’s uber-athletic guards and boost what was a very anemic offense a year ago.
The Skinny: This is a crucial year for Steve Lavin. Lavin has succeeded in creating a nation-wide recruiting database for the Queens-based school, distancing the program from the notion SJU only succeeds by recruiting the Big Apple’s best by bringing in top talent from all over, but this team is built – and needs to – succeed this season. It’s unclear if Sampson, D’Angelo Harrison, or Chris Obekpa will be back in 2014-15, and there is arguably no other Big East program with as much returning talent as the Johnnies. The addition of Rysheed Jordan allows Harrison and Jamal Branch to play off the ball, and also presents Lavin with several different lineups options. Jordan has drawn raves for his athleticism and eerily prescient decision making for a freshman, and it will be interesting how he adjusts to the physicality of Big East basketball. Obekpa added an extra element to the team’s match-up zone – his 15.8% block percentage led the nation – but can Obeka decrease his fouls (four per 40 minutes) and also expand his severely limited offensive game? One wrinkle worth observing is what new assistant coach Jim Whitesell brings to the team. A frequent – and tired – knock on Lavin is that while he can recruit, he sorely lacks the Xs and Os acumen to succeed at a high major level, and some perceive Whitesell’s hiring as an attempt to restore balance to SJU’s gameplan (one that was missing when Mike Dunlap left Queens for Charlotte).
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“@jmverlin: 2013-14 Season Preview: Big East Primer http://bit.ly/196GKVJ (http://bit.ly/196GKVJ)”
4. St. John’s Red Storm (17-16, 8-10 Big East)
Coach: Steve Lavin – 4th season, 51-47 (.520)
Postseason: NIT Second round (Defeated St. Joe’s, lost to Virginia)
RPI/KenPom: 91/104
Key loss(es): Amir Garrett (5.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
Starters returning: 4
Name to know: Orlando Sanchez. Other than JaKarr Sampson, who showed promise but was also prone to inconsistency during his freshman season, the Red Storm did not have any bigs who could generate frontcourt offense. Sanchez sat out last season and only has one year of eligibility remaining, but could be the Johnny needed operate in the middle of the court.
Based on the team’s European trip, Sanchez will likely start, and while his offensive debut was not seamless – Big Apple Buckets’ John Templon calculated the 6’9” Sanchez’s offensive rating as below 100 – his ability to flash to the free throw line, put the ball on the ground and shift opposing defense will help create openings for SJU’s uber-athletic guards and boost what was a very anemic offense a year ago.
The Skinny: This is a crucial year for Steve Lavin. Lavin has succeeded in creating a nation-wide recruiting database for the Queens-based school, distancing the program from the notion SJU only succeeds by recruiting the Big Apple’s best by bringing in top talent from all over, but this team is built – and needs to – succeed this season. It’s unclear if Sampson, D’Angelo Harrison, or Chris Obekpa will be back in 2014-15, and there is arguably no other Big East program with as much returning talent as the Johnnies. The addition of Rysheed Jordan allows Harrison and Jamal Branch to play off the ball, and also presents Lavin with several different lineups options. Jordan has drawn raves for his athleticism and eerily prescient decision making for a freshman, and it will be interesting how he adjusts to the physicality of Big East basketball. Obekpa added an extra element to the team’s match-up zone – his 15.8% block percentage led the nation – but can Obeka decrease his fouls (four per 40 minutes) and also expand his severely limited offensive game? One wrinkle worth observing is what new assistant coach Jim Whitesell brings to the team. A frequent – and tired – knock on Lavin is that while he can recruit, he sorely lacks the Xs and Os acumen to succeed at a high major level, and some perceive Whitesell’s hiring as an attempt to restore balance to SJU’s gameplan (one that was missing when Mike Dunlap left Queens for Charlotte).
pretty good synapsis.
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anyone else having trouble getting into the holy land of hoops message board? Did it already get taken down?
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anyone else having trouble getting into the holy land of hoops message board? Did it already get taken down?
Looks like its working to me:
http://holylandofhoops.com/forum/ (http://holylandofhoops.com/forum/)
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Thanks. I was getting error messages for some reason.
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Thanks. I was getting error messages for some reason.
No problem. I think the made some changes and changed the url. This is probably the thing that gave you trouble:
http://holylandofhoops.com/viewforum.php?f=1 (http://holylandofhoops.com/viewforum.php?f=1)
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“@AdamZagoria: New-Look Big East Takes a Beating in First Coaches Poll http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/ (http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/) @SNYtv”
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Wow, Juco stud & quite a surprise;
“@MUTribuneSports: Junior college transfer Jameel McKay is transferring from Marquette before having played a game. #mubb”
“@PaintTouches: [New to PT] What does Jameel McKay's surprise transfer mean for Marquette? #mubb http://painttouches.com/2013/10/17/jameel-mckay-announces-his-transfer-from-marquette/ (http://painttouches.com/2013/10/17/jameel-mckay-announces-his-transfer-from-marquette/)”
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“@AdamZagoria: New-Look Big East Takes a Beating in First Coaches Poll http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/ (http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/) @SNYtv”
Gotta show everybody on the court. Our league has plenty to prove on our OOC slate. For us, it start with Wisconsin, but the league in general getting no respect in the top 25 is silly. Have to earn those spots now.
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“@AdamZagoria: New-Look Big East Takes a Beating in First Coaches Poll http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/ (http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/) @SNYtv”
Gotta show everybody on the court. Our league has plenty to prove on our OOC slate. For us, it start with Wisconsin, but the league in general getting no respect in the top 25 is silly. Have to earn those spots now.
Good to see Wisconsin in at 21. Should make that 69-58 win look even better.
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“@AdamZagoria: New-Look Big East Takes a Beating in First Coaches Poll http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/ (http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/) @SNYtv”
Gotta show everybody on the court. Our league has plenty to prove on our OOC slate. For us, it start with Wisconsin, but the league in general getting no respect in the top 25 is silly. Have to earn those spots now.
Gotta take it to Wisconsin for the conference. The conference needs all the top 25 wins it can get. This first season is everything.
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“@AdamZagoria: New-Look Big East Takes a Beating in First Coaches Poll http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/ (http://zagsblog.com/big-east/new-look-big-east-takes-a-beating-in-first-coaches-poll/) @SNYtv”
Gotta show everybody on the court. Our league has plenty to prove on our OOC slate. For us, it start with Wisconsin, but the league in general getting no respect in the top 25 is silly. Have to earn those spots now.
Gotta take it to Wisconsin for the conference. The conference needs all the top 25 wins it can get. This first season is everything.
“@jmverlin: 2013-14 Season Preview: Big East Primer http://bit.ly/196GKVJ (http://bit.ly/196GKVJ)”
4. St. John’s Red Storm (17-16, 8-10 Big East)
Coach: Steve Lavin – 4th season, 51-47 (.520)
Postseason: NIT Second round (Defeated St. Joe’s, lost to Virginia)
RPI/KenPom: 91/104
Key loss(es): Amir Garrett (5.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg)
Starters returning: 4
Name to know: Orlando Sanchez. Other than JaKarr Sampson, who showed promise but was also prone to inconsistency during his freshman season, the Red Storm did not have any bigs who could generate frontcourt offense. Sanchez sat out last season and only has one year of eligibility remaining, but could be the Johnny needed operate in the middle of the court.
Based on the team’s European trip, Sanchez will likely start, and while his offensive debut was not seamless – Big Apple Buckets’ John Templon calculated the 6’9” Sanchez’s offensive rating as below 100 – his ability to flash to the free throw line, put the ball on the ground and shift opposing defense will help create openings for SJU’s uber-athletic guards and boost what was a very anemic offense a year ago.
The Skinny: This is a crucial year for Steve Lavin. Lavin has succeeded in creating a nation-wide recruiting database for the Queens-based school, distancing the program from the notion SJU only succeeds by recruiting the Big Apple’s best by bringing in top talent from all over, but this team is built – and needs to – succeed this season. It’s unclear if Sampson, D’Angelo Harrison, or Chris Obekpa will be back in 2014-15, and there is arguably no other Big East program with as much returning talent as the Johnnies. The addition of Rysheed Jordan allows Harrison and Jamal Branch to play off the ball, and also presents Lavin with several different lineups options. Jordan has drawn raves for his athleticism and eerily prescient decision making for a freshman, and it will be interesting how he adjusts to the physicality of Big East basketball. Obekpa added an extra element to the team’s match-up zone – his 15.8% block percentage led the nation – but can Obeka decrease his fouls (four per 40 minutes) and also expand his severely limited offensive game? One wrinkle worth observing is what new assistant coach Jim Whitesell brings to the team. A frequent – and tired – knock on Lavin is that while he can recruit, he sorely lacks the Xs and Os acumen to succeed at a high major level, and some perceive Whitesell’s hiring as an attempt to restore balance to SJU’s gameplan (one that was missing when Mike Dunlap left Queens for Charlotte).
I agree. We didn't run an offense. Hopefully Whitesell fixed that.
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“@AdamZagoria: Marial Shayok to Marquette http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/shayok-to-announce-friday/ (http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/shayok-to-announce-friday/)”
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Mike Jarvis' world worst in home visit recipient;
“@Brian_Ewart: 2006 Grad Jason Fraser is headed back to Villanova to join the men's basketball staff as Director of Student Athlete Development.”
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Mike Jarvis' world worst in home visit recipient;
“@Brian_Ewart: 2006 Grad Jason Fraser is headed back to Villanova to join the men's basketball staff as Director of Student Athlete Development.”
Mr.Glass
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Fwiw;
@TheBBallDiary: Final score. Xavier University 75 vs Ohio University 85 scrimmage. #XU #BobcatNation stats to follow.”
“@TheBBallDiary: Xavier scoring leaders Isaiah Philmore 19pts, 4ast. Matt Stainbrook 13pts, 4reb, 1ast. Semaj Christon 11pts, 3reb, 5ast.
“@TheBBallDiary: Ohio: Ricardo Johnson 20pts, 4reb, 2stl. Maurice Ndour 17pts, 5reb, 2blk, 1ast. TJ Hall 10pts, 5reb. Jon Smith 10pts, 3reb, 2blk, 2stl.”
Ndour is former teammate of Orlando S. at Monroe, always liked his game.
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Quite a story;
“@NYPost_Brazille: Local product Pinkston ready to lead Villanova after MRSA scare http://nyp.st/1bJI8xS (http://nyp.st/1bJI8xS) @novaathletics @villanovabb @newheightsnyc”
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“@MarquetteMBB: #mubb's Duane Wilson (@SwaggyDu1) to miss start of 2013-14 with stress fracture in left leg.”
Duane Wilson will miss the start of the season, Marquette’s Twitter account revealed on Monday.
At 6-foot-2, 180 pounds, Wilson was expected to be a contributor from day one backing up Derrick Wilson at point guard. He possessed incredible quickness in high school and AAU ball that made him a consensus top-75 player, ranked as high as No. 51 by Rivals.com.
It is not yet known how long he will be out or how he was injured, but he did share the photo above on Instagram over the weekend.
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Providence got a new floor
https://twitter.com/PCAthletics/status/392367962172043265/photo/1/large
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Quite a story;
“@NYPost_Brazille: Local product Pinkston ready to lead Villanova after MRSA scare http://nyp.st/1bJI8xS (http://nyp.st/1bJI8xS) @novaathletics @villanovabb @newheightsnyc”
How many Wilsons do they have? Jesus.
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“@MarquetteMBB: #mubb's Duane Wilson (@SwaggyDu1) to miss start of 2013-14 with stress fracture in left leg.”
Duane Wilson will miss the start of the season, Marquette’s Twitter account revealed on Monday.
At 6-foot-2, 180 pounds, Wilson was expected to be a contributor from day one backing up Derrick Wilson at point guard. He possessed incredible quickness in high school and AAU ball that made him a consensus top-75 player, ranked as high as No. 51 by Rivals.com.
It is not yet known how long he will be out or how he was injured, but he did share the photo above on Instagram over the weekend.
allegedly out 8-12 weeks. Ouch that's a huge blow seeing as many marquette fans wanted him starting at PG over Derrick. PG was one of the 2 major question mark for Marquette and they just lost one of their major possible answers.
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Solid fan base;
“@KASarver: Creighton MBB fans have already purchased over 600 all-session tickets to the 2014 BIG EAST Trny at MSG in NYC. Deadline to order is Nov. 1.”
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The forms were sent already?
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The forms were sent already?
No. Pretty sure ours come with Garden tickets. Each team handles on their own
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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east)
I am a little confused how McDermott is a walk on. The article says that he gave up his schollie for someone that got a 6th year of eligibility. Is that allowed?
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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east)
I am a little confused how McDermott is a walk on. The article says that he gave up his schollie for someone that got a 6th year of eligibility. Is that allowed?
Of course. That's the Rick Pitino Rule. And when he needs even more schollies, he sends end of the bench kids to his son.
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http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9859284/mark-titus-previews-2013-14-ncaa-basketball-season-starting-big-east)
I am a little confused how McDermott is a walk on. The article says that he gave up his schollie for someone that got a 6th year of eligibility. Is that allowed?
His dad is the coach. Pretty sure all schools allow employees kids to go to school, if not all employees, definitely someone as high profile as bball coach.
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“@CasualHoya: BREAKING: Georgetown's Josh Smith has been cleared by the NCAA to play for Hoyas this semester!”
“@DanWolken: Josh Smith getting a two-year waiver at Georgetown is remarkable. Left UCLA after 6 games b/c he was disgruntled, NCAA says "No prob!"”
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“@CasualHoya: BREAKING: Georgetown's Josh Smith has been cleared by the NCAA to play for Hoyas this semester!”
“@DanWolken: Josh Smith getting a two-year waiver at Georgetown is remarkable. Left UCLA after 6 games b/c he was disgruntled, NCAA says "No prob!"”
What is this a waiver for? Because he wanted it?
Who is the kid that came back to the NY area this year because a relative is seriously ill? Something with an O. That kid was told no? WTF.
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“@CasualHoya: BREAKING: Georgetown's Josh Smith has been cleared by the NCAA to play for Hoyas this semester!”
“@DanWolken: Josh Smith getting a two-year waiver at Georgetown is remarkable. Left UCLA after 6 games b/c he was disgruntled, NCAA says "No prob!"”
thats ridiculous. what is the waiver for? the whole process is absurd and needs a major overhaul
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“@CasualHoya: BREAKING: Georgetown's Josh Smith has been cleared by the NCAA to play for Hoyas this semester!”
“@DanWolken: Josh Smith getting a two-year waiver at Georgetown is remarkable. Left UCLA after 6 games b/c he was disgruntled, NCAA says "No prob!"”
What is this a waiver for? Because he wanted it?
Who is the kid that came back to the NY area this year because a relative is seriously ill? Something with an O. That kid was told no? WTF.
Its a friggin joke Smith got a waiver.
You are thinking of Okoro who lost his dad and brother last year while at Iowa State and transferred back to Rutgers. He was told no and there was a Twitter firestorm with Vitale and Bilas and others saying what a joke that was. He was eventually given the OK.
Last year Ashton Pankey had a sick relative and came from Maryland to Manhattan and was told no.
I seriously think they just flip a coin in Indy or something when they make these decisions.
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Why? How is this different than any other midseason transfer.
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Why? How is this different than any other midseason transfer.
Hooper played in 2 games for harvard for a total of 4 minutes. He had to sit a year. I'm actually annoyed by this now
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Why? How is this different than any other midseason transfer.
Hooper played in 2 games for harvard for a total of 4 minutes. He had to sit a year. I'm actually annoyed by this now
@franfraschilla: Josh Smith eligible? I'm not going waste my time trashing NCAA. It's a lost cause .
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Haters gonna Hate 8)
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Haters gonna Hate 8)
Is there a backstory to this Hoya? Didn't even know it was a possibility.
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Haters gonna Hate 8)
Guess the entire basketball community are 'haters'
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“@BigEastDaily: Big East Season Preview: Creighton Bluejays http://www.snsanalytics.com/pzwvy3 (http://www.snsanalytics.com/pzwvy3)”
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Honestly I have no clue how we pulled this off. My guess it had to do with the toxic environment at UCLA and the abuse Josh received from coach Howland and fellow players. Lots of Rutgers players were granted immediate eligibility due to Mike Rice's antics. I'm guessing that's why he's eligible immediately.
How he has 2 years of eligibility is the real question to me. I have no clue how we pulled off getting him two full years when he played 6 games at UCLA last year. Again just making this up, but maybe we argued he obesity was a type of injury and got last year to count as a medical redshirt since he played in so few games he would have been eligible for a medical redshirt. Or maybe he actually had an injury that no one knew about, or maybe we made up an injury. Who knows.
But it's great for Georgetown and therefore good for the BE.
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My guess it had to do with the toxic environment at UCLA and the abuse Josh received from coach lavin and fellow players.
Lavin still getting blame for UCLA's failures ;)
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My guess it had to do with the toxic environment at UCLA and the abuse Josh received from coach lavin and fellow players.
Lavin still getting blame for UCLA's failures ;)
Haha oops Freudian slip caused by being on a st. John's board.
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“@PaintTouches: Vander Blue released by the Sixers: http://bit.ly/19BLtis (http://bit.ly/19BLtis)”
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Stud!
“@Eiser_XU_Sports: Point guard Semaj Christon aims to lead retooled Xavier back to prominence http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/point-guard-semaj-christon-aims-lead-retooled-xavier-202851112--ncaab.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/point-guard-semaj-christon-aims-lead-retooled-xavier-202851112--ncaab.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory) via @YahooSports”
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“@GoodmanESPN: Villanova's Dylan Ennis has a broken bone in his right hand, and will be evaluated in a month, Wildcats spokesman Mike Sheridan told ESPN.”
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“@MarcusHelton: Paul VI (Va.) 2015 F Marcus Derrickson has committed to Georgetown, per @EvanDanielsFOX GREAT pickup for the Hoyas. #DMVhoops”
4 star PF
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But I thought Top players weren't going to play in the new Big East?
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But I thought Top players weren't going to play in the new Big East?
No the new big east actually has a lot of top 100 commitments. It just feels that way because we have zero. ;)
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This league is going to be a lot of fun for years to come.
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“@NYDNSports: Born-again Big East focuses on hoops, great coaching and the Garden | http://nydn.us/1aLWYBI (http://nydn.us/1aLWYBI)”
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Fwiw
“@rumbleSBN: Statheads predict the Big East men's hoops teams #bigeast #sjubb http://sbn.to/16gPTLf (http://sbn.to/16gPTLf)”
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Fwiw
“@rumbleSBN: Statheads predict the Big East men's hoops teams #bigeast #sjubb http://sbn.to/16gPTLf (http://sbn.to/16gPTLf)”
I was always bad at math
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“@QSJUHoops: Big East announces the hiring of former top NCAA executive Tom Jernstedt as senior advisor to commish Val Ackerman. #sjubb”
Interesting background;
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News/2010+news+stories/August+latest+news/Four+decades+of+service+for+Tom+Jernstedt (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Resources/Latest+News/2010+news+stories/August+latest+news/Four+decades+of+service+for+Tom+Jernstedt)
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Fwiw
“@rumbleSBN: Statheads predict the Big East men's hoops teams #bigeast #sjubb http://sbn.to/16gPTLf (http://sbn.to/16gPTLf)”
That seems like a terrible way to project this year. If we go 8-10 this year the program is in trouble.
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Fwiw
“@rumbleSBN: Statheads predict the Big East men's hoops teams #bigeast #sjubb http://sbn.to/16gPTLf (http://sbn.to/16gPTLf)”
That seems like a terrible way to project this year. If we go 8-10 this year the program is in trouble.
Not playing Pit, Ville, and ND. A year older. We will have Harrison the entire year. Not to mention we will add players such as Jordan, Primo, GG, and Hooper to the mix. After we put that all together, we end up with the same record as last year? Not understanding the logic there.
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Nothing else cooking in town, but still impressive;
“@KevinMcNamara33: Why Creighton is in the Big East @_robanderson Within one hour, 8 Bluejays games have sold out for the 17,390-seat CenturyLink Center.”
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“@CasualHoya: Big East Preseason Previews and Predictions: #7 Xavier http://sbn.to/Hto0Gm (http://sbn.to/Hto0Gm)”
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@tsnmike: Starting 5: Ranking the Big East's expansion candidates; Tom Crean's five-year plan http://t.co/cgWFYkPl70 (http://t.co/cgWFYkPl70)
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@tsnmike: Starting 5: Ranking the Big East's expansion candidates; Tom Crean's five-year plan http://t.co/cgWFYkPl70 (http://t.co/cgWFYkPl70)
I vote for VCU, but only because they don't suck like the other 4 programs do.
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Sports Illustrated journalist @georgedohrmann is going on a bit of a Twitter rant right now encouraging certain schools to drop football.
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Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop
Xavier lands a top-50 commitment from 2014 Park Tudor (IN) SF Trevon Bluiett, a former UCLA commit.
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No big time players want to play in this mid major conference.
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No big time players want to play in this mid major conference.
Big East killing it on recruiting trail. It's actually gotten better.
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No big time players want to play in this mid major conference.
Big East killing it on recruiting trail. It's actually gotten better.
Having the vast majority of your games nationally televised and playing in MSG during your conference tournament are both great recruiting tools.
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Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop
Xavier lands a top-50 commitment from 2014 Park Tudor (IN) SF Trevon Bluiett, a former UCLA commit.
Huge get
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#3 in the country, has DePaul in final 4. Would be shocked if he goes there but still...
http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/cliff-alexander-cuts-to-4/ (http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/cliff-alexander-cuts-to-4/)
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“@NewBigEastConf: 83 of the ESPN Top 100 2014 CBB recruiting class have made verbal commitments and 15 of them have chosen #BigEast schools.”
@NewBigEastConf: Of the Top 20 ESPN CBB recruiting classes 5 of them are #BigEast schools.
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No big time players want to play in this mid major conference.
Big East killing it on recruiting trail. It's actually gotten better.
Having the vast majority of your games nationally televised and playing in MSG during your conference tournament are both great recruiting tools.
The other thing our league offers is that BB players will be the BMOC. to the BE basketball is not a filler between the FB season and spring practice for FB
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“@JonRothstein: Seton Hall beats Caldwell 67-49 in exhibition. Sterling Gibbs continues to emerge for Pirates. 7-14, 15 points, 4 assists, 1 TO.”
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BY KEVIN MCNAMARA
PROVIDENCE - Kris Dunn, Providence College's starting point guard, has left tonight's exhibition game against Rhode Island College with a shoulder injury.
Dunn fell in front of the Friars' bench with 10:23 to play in the first half. He left holding his right wrist and was clearly in pain as he walked into the locker room. Dunn did not return to the bench the rest of the half and did not play the rest of the game, which Providence won easily, 97-65.
He eventually returned to the bench midway through the second half. During timeouts the sophomore was seen stretching gingerly and clearly favoring his right shoulder. The shoulder is the same one that was operated on for a torn labrum in July of 2012.
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#3 in the country, has DePaul in final 4. Would be shocked if he goes there but still...
http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/cliff-alexander-cuts-to-4/ (http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/cliff-alexander-cuts-to-4/)
Always a bridesmaid
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“@JonRothstein: Seton Hall beats Caldwell 67-49 in exhibition. Sterling Gibbs continues to emerge for Pirates. 7-14, 15 points, 4 assists, 1 TO.”
Looks like Edwin didn't play. Didn't say injured so think what you will.
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“@JonRothstein: Seton Hall beats Caldwell 67-49 in exhibition. Sterling Gibbs continues to emerge for Pirates. 7-14, 15 points, 4 assists, 1 TO.”
Looks like Edwin didn't play. Didn't say injured so think what you will.
Violated team rules.
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would be huge for DP;
@NewBigEastConf: Breaking: Cliff Alexander to choose between #DePaul and #Illinois. #BigEast
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would be huge for DP;
@NewBigEastConf: Breaking: Cliff Alexander to choose between #DePaul and #Illinois. #BigEast
Wow
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would be huge for DP;
@NewBigEastConf: Breaking: Cliff Alexander to choose between #DePaul and #Illinois. #BigEast
Wow
Latest chatter has Kansas still in it.
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@CBTonNBC: 2013-2014 Big East Preview: Marquette's favored, but the Big East could send seven to tourney http://t.co/gpl8urrs0U (http://t.co/gpl8urrs0U)
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:-*Renewal of an old rivalry & good test for Friars;
“@JRbroadcaster: Game Preview: Providence College vs. Boston College http://sbn.to/1hg0P2I (http://sbn.to/1hg0P2I) via @becb_sbn”
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ESPN has Big East as the fourth best conference.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/post?id=2147 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/post?id=2147)
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ESPN has Big East as the fourth best conference.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/post?id=2147 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/post?id=2147)
Pretty on point. 3, 4 and 5 are really a toss up.
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@CBTonNBC: Nate Lubick on guarding Josh Smith in practice: 'Ugh. It's miserable.' http://t.co/m766DKW7Fl (http://t.co/m766DKW7Fl)
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Oregon sophomores Dominic Artis and Ben Carter will be suspended for multiple games -- including Friday's season-opener against Georgetown -- because of a violation of NCAA rules, according to a report from DuckTerritory.com.
DuckTerritory.com is an affiliate of the 247Sports Network.
The 247Sports Network is in partnership with CBSSports.com.
Artis and Carter -- as well as three former Oregon players -- sold "exclusive basketball shoes" in violation of NCAA bylaws, according to the report. Their punishment will be a suspension of up to nine games, which would keep both sidelined all of November.
Artis, a point guard, averaged 24 minutes per game last season.
Carter, a power forward, averaged 10 minutes per game last season.
Oregon is ranked 19th in the preseason AP poll and considered a challenger in the Pac-12.
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@tsnmike: Bill Raftery on his new home, his old (new) league and his future http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0 (http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0)
SN: What about St. Johns? You’ve watched them since Steve Lavin took over, the progress in recruiting and the setback when he was ill.
Raftery: To me, they could win it all in the league. I just think there are so many key things: Defensively, getting these talented kids to get after it. (D’Angelo) Harrison’s attitude, which has been good so far; Rysheed Jordan, everyone says he’s been the real deal running the team.
If they can guard—they’ve got size and they’ve got backcourt play—they could be terrific. They’re good, it’s just a matter of a mindset at this point. Steve is healthy and looks much better. He’s got the old spunk back.
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@MarquetteMBB: MU tops Southern 63-56 in the regular season opener. Golden Eagles have now won 26 straight at the @BMOHBC #mubb
@JonRothstein: Marquette holds off a pesky Southern team 63-56. 25 for Davante Gardner. 20 for Todd Mayo.
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GT lost to well coached Oregon team playing short handed. (82 -75) Big Smith of GT had 25 points & looked good.
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Good test;
@eamonnbrennan: Ohio State-Marquette a year in the making http://t.co/b4B410ghc4 (http://t.co/b4B410ghc4)
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Stud!
@DimeMag: Semaj Christon Is The Best College Basketball Player You Don't Know http://t.co/XlZDiQK2CN (http://t.co/XlZDiQK2CN)
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@tsnmike: Bill Raftery on his new home, his old (new) league and his future http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0 (http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0)
SN: What about St. Johns? You’ve watched them since Steve Lavin took over, the progress in recruiting and the setback when he was ill.
Raftery: To me, they could win it all in the league. I just think there are so many key things: Defensively, getting these talented kids to get after it. (D’Angelo) Harrison’s attitude, which has been good so far; Rysheed Jordan, everyone says he’s been the real deal running the team.
If they can guard—they’ve got size and they’ve got backcourt play—they could be terrific. They’re good, it’s just a matter of a mindset at this point. Steve is healthy and looks much better. He’s got the old spunk back.
So, basically Bill Raftery, one of the most respected basketball announcers in the game, just said that we have to hustle on d.
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Jim Burr, who just turned 80, doing M'Quette/Ohio State game.
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@tsnmike: Bill Raftery on his new home, his old (new) league and his future http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0 (http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0)
SN: What about St. Johns? You’ve watched them since Steve Lavin took over, the progress in recruiting and the setback when he was ill.
Raftery: To me, they could win it all in the league. I just think there are so many key things: Defensively, getting these talented kids to get after it. (D’Angelo) Harrison’s attitude, which has been good so far; Rysheed Jordan, everyone says he’s been the real deal running the team.
If they can guard—they’ve got size and they’ve got backcourt play—they could be terrific. They’re good, it’s just a matter of a mindset at this point. Steve is healthy and looks much better. He’s got the old spunk back.
So, basically Bill Raftery, one of the most respected basketball announcers in the game, just said that we have to hustle on d.
That is why I am not worried about the offense or the 3 pt shooting yet. They need to understand how important each possession is and the importance of guarding people.
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BTW-If you want to watch ugly basketball turn on Marquette-Ohio St. Neither team can throw it in the ocean in the first half.
But at the same time both teams can guard you and sometimes that is good enough to win.
BTW-I guess Fox can put games on their national network as opposed to just Fox Sports 1. Perhaps college football being on Fox Sports 1 is the reason this is on Fox national. Why isn't Raftery doing this high profile game?
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@tsnmike: Bill Raftery on his new home, his old (new) league and his future http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0 (http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0)
SN: What about St. Johns? You’ve watched them since Steve Lavin took over, the progress in recruiting and the setback when he was ill.
Raftery: To me, they could win it all in the league. I just think there are so many key things: Defensively, getting these talented kids to get after it. (D’Angelo) Harrison’s attitude, which has been good so far; Rysheed Jordan, everyone says he’s been the real deal running the team.
If they can guard—they’ve got size and they’ve got backcourt play—they could be terrific. They’re good, it’s just a matter of a mindset at this point. Steve is healthy and looks much better. He’s got the old spunk back.
So, basically Bill Raftery, one of the most respected basketball announcers in the game, just said that we have to hustle on d.
That is why I am not worried about the offense or the 3 pt shooting yet. They need to understand how important each possession is and the importance of guarding people.
Why do juniors and seniors not understand how importance it is to hustle on d?
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
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Nine made field goals, nineteen TOs and shot 6% from three! Ouch M'Q!
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And Marquette will regroup and be a good team. But they went 12 minutes in the 2nd half without a FG at home. 12 MINUTES.
The consensus best team in the conference won't break the 40 point barrier at home. And with 8 minutes left in the game had 26 TOTAL points.
And we are constantly nitpicking about SJU 2 freaking games into the year.
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@tsnmike: Bill Raftery on his new home, his old (new) league and his future http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0 (http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0)
SN: What about St. Johns? You’ve watched them since Steve Lavin took over, the progress in recruiting and the setback when he was ill.
Raftery: To me, they could win it all in the league. I just think there are so many key things: Defensively, getting these talented kids to get after it. (D’Angelo) Harrison’s attitude, which has been good so far; Rysheed Jordan, everyone says he’s been the real deal running the team.
If they can guard—they’ve got size and they’ve got backcourt play—they could be terrific. They’re good, it’s just a matter of a mindset at this point. Steve is healthy and looks much better. He’s got the old spunk back.
So, basically Bill Raftery, one of the most respected basketball announcers in the game, just said that we have to hustle on d.
That is why I am not worried about the offense or the 3 pt shooting yet. They need to understand how important each possession is and the importance of guarding people.
Why do juniors and seniors not understand how importance it is to hustle on d?
Going hard all the time and playing D like you are playing for your last drop of water. That will be the difference between SJU being a pretty good team or an elite team ranked throughout the year. That is what Raft meant.
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And Marquette will regroup and be a good team. But they went 12 minutes in the 2nd half without a FG at home. 12 MINUTES.
The consensus best team in the conference won't break the 40 point barrier at home. And with 8 minutes left in the game had 26 TOTAL points.
And we are constantly nitpicking about SJU 2 freaking games into the year.
Yes, but their players don't curse...
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
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@jeffborzello: OVERTIME in Seton Hall-Mercer.
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@CerasolisGhost: FINAL: Mercer 77, Seton Hall 74. Brian Oliver rims out tying shot at buzzer.
@NJHoopsHaven: Seton Hall wasted a career-high 35 points from Fuquan Edwin and lost in double OT at fiesty Mercer.
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@tsnmike: Bill Raftery on his new home, his old (new) league and his future http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0 (http://t.co/gV8wg6Q9V0)
SN: What about St. Johns? You’ve watched them since Steve Lavin took over, the progress in recruiting and the setback when he was ill.
Raftery: To me, they could win it all in the league. I just think there are so many key things: Defensively, getting these talented kids to get after it. (D’Angelo) Harrison’s attitude, which has been good so far; Rysheed Jordan, everyone says he’s been the real deal running the team.
If they can guard—they’ve got size and they’ve got backcourt play—they could be terrific. They’re good, it’s just a matter of a mindset at this point. Steve is healthy and looks much better. He’s got the old spunk back.
So, basically Bill Raftery, one of the most respected basketball announcers in the game, just said that we have to hustle on d.
That is why I am not worried about the offense or the 3 pt shooting yet. They need to understand how important each possession is and the importance of guarding people.
Why do juniors and seniors not understand how importance it is to hustle on d?
Going hard all the time and playing D like you are playing for your last drop of water. That will be the difference between SJU being a pretty good team or an elite team ranked throughout the year. That is what Raft meant.
I agree. I would like to see us play like that.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
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@sjnard: #sjuhawks
Halftime
Creighton 40
St Joseph's 45
McDermott 8 points
@sjnard: #SJUHawks
SJU led Creighton by as many as 13.
Half SJU 45, Creighton 40.
Galloway, Wilson and Roberts all 9 pts.
McDermott 8 pts, (2-5 FG)
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@JonRothstein: Final score --- Creighton 83 St. Joe's 79....
McD nailed a late jumper, was fouled & made FT.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
+1
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
Pittsburgh isn't even the top job in their state.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
Debateable but hard to argue with facitlities and recent success.
Think about this from 2002 thru 2011, 10 straight years Pitt was arguably the best program in the best conference in America. They had more league wins, more league regular season championships, more appearances in the conference championship games and 10 straight NCAA Tourney appearances. No one in the BE could touch that. And a tremendous home court. The Peterson Center is a tremendous on campus facility.
Name me a program in the BE that is a better job then Pitt? Seriously. Maybe Georgetown, maybe.
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If I had to name the top 15 college basketball jobs in America I think it is safe to name these 14 in no specific order:
ACC-Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse, Louisville (will join soon)
Big 10-Ohio St, Indiana, Michigan St, Michigan
Big 12-Kansas, Texas
Pac 12-Arizona and UCLA
SEC-Kentucky and Florida
That is 14 programs. The 15th I would throw schools like UCONN, Pitt, Maryland, Wisconsin, maybe Georgetown. A few years ago Pitt and UCONN would have been locks. And when Gary Williams left Maryland everyone from Goodman to Vitale called MD a top 10 job.
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If I had to name the top 15 college basketball jobs in America I think it is safe to name these 14 in no specific order:
ACC-Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse, Louisville (will join soon)
Big 10-Ohio St, Indiana, Michigan St, Michigan
Big 12-Kansas, Texas
Pac 12-Arizona and UCLA
SEC-Kentucky and Florida
That is 14 programs. The 15th I would throw schools like UCONN, Pitt, Maryland, Wisconsin, maybe Georgetown. A few years ago Pitt and UCONN would have been locks. And when Gary Williams left Maryland everyone from Goodman to Vitale called MD a top 10 job.
I agree with Maryland. Illinois a pretty good job for the right guy as well. Uconn IMO has lost it's luster with conference affiliation. I don't think Pitt is right there though. They are lumped with a ton of other programs in football towns that can afford nice facilities.
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If I had to name the top 15 college basketball jobs in America I think it is safe to name these 14 in no specific order:
ACC-Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse, Louisville (will join soon)
Big 10-Ohio St, Indiana, Michigan St, Michigan
Big 12-Kansas, Texas
Pac 12-Arizona and UCLA
SEC-Kentucky and Florida
That is 14 programs. The 15th I would throw schools like UCONN, Pitt, Maryland, Wisconsin, maybe Georgetown. A few years ago Pitt and UCONN would have been locks. And when Gary Williams left Maryland everyone from Goodman to Vitale called MD a top 10 job.
I agree with Maryland. Illinois a pretty good job for the right guy as well. Uconn IMO has lost it's luster with conference affiliation. I don't think Pitt is right there though. They are lumped with a ton of other programs in football towns that can afford nice facilities.
Ask Rutgers about that. How did their football turnaround help their basketball program? Zip.
Pitt is a big time job now.
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rankings of conferences, according to KPI Sports (http://kpisports.wordpress.com/kpibasketball/ (http://kpisports.wordpress.com/kpibasketball/)) (start-up website using analytics for several different type of basketball stats. the below, i believe, is based on w/l, so take it with a grain of salt:
@GoodmanESPN @kenpomeroy #KPI by conf as of 8 ET:
1-Big Ten;
2-Big 12;
3-A-10;
4-WCC;
5-Big East;
6-Pac-12;
7-SEC;
8-American;
9-ACC;
10-MVC
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rankings of conferences, according to KPI Sports (http://kpisports.wordpress.com/kpibasketball/ (http://kpisports.wordpress.com/kpibasketball/)) (start-up website using analytics for several different type of basketball stats. the below, i believe, is based on w/l, so take it with a grain of salt:
@GoodmanESPN @kenpomeroy #KPI by conf as of 8 ET:
1-Big Ten;
2-Big 12;
3-A-10;
4-WCC;
5-Big East;
6-Pac-12;
7-SEC;
8-American;
9-ACC;
10-MVC
3 games into a season we are talking RPI ratings????
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
Debateable but hard to argue with facitlities and recent success.
Think about this from 2002 thru 2011, 10 straight years Pitt was arguably the best program in the best conference in America. They had more league wins, more league regular season championships, more appearances in the conference championship games and 10 straight NCAA Tourney appearances. No one in the BE could touch that. And a tremendous home court. The Peterson Center is a tremendous on campus facility.
Name me a program in the BE that is a better job then Pitt? Seriously. Maybe Georgetown, maybe.
I look at the best jobs in the country as the best historic programs in the country. It can't just be about the success over the last ten years because if that was the case butler would be a better job than Indiana. Which it's not. And it can't just be because f acilities or the type of salary a school can offer because if that were the case then Oregon would be a better job than duke. Also not true.
To add to your list of fourteen for sure teams, I would add Maryland, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, UCONN, Wisconsin.
Then there is these schools which are much more debatable but I would still lean towards better on.
NC State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Cincinnati, Gonzaga, Memphis.
Not trying to take anything away from Pitt, but top 15 job they are not. Their between the 25-30th best and that's pretty damn good.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
Debateable but hard to argue with facitlities and recent success.
Think about this from 2002 thru 2011, 10 straight years Pitt was arguably the best program in the best conference in America. They had more league wins, more league regular season championships, more appearances in the conference championship games and 10 straight NCAA Tourney appearances. No one in the BE could touch that. And a tremendous home court. The Peterson Center is a tremendous on campus facility.
Name me a program in the BE that is a better job then Pitt? Seriously. Maybe Georgetown, maybe.
I look at the best jobs in the country as the best historic programs in the country. It can't just be about the success over the last ten years because if that was the case butler would be a better job than Indiana. Which it's not. And it can't just be because f acilities or the type of salary a school can offer because if that were the case then Oregon would be a better job than duke. Also not true.
To add to your list of fourteen for sure teams, I would add Maryland, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, UCONN, Wisconsin.
Then there is these schools which are much more debatable but I would still lean towards better on.
NC State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Cincinnati, Gonzaga, Memphis.
Not trying to take anything away from Pitt, but top 15 job they are not. Their between the 25-30th best and that's pretty damn good.
Disagee. And if history is the deciding factor then UCONN goes nowhere near the top 15 because before Calhoun got there they were a cow pasture.
10 years is no a small sample and it was a pretty dominant 10 years. You don' have that or what UCONN did from the 90's into the mid 2000's if you are a top 30 program. No way.
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BTW-Keep this in mind, Cincy and UCONN were BEGGING for ACC invites. And yet the ACC took Pitt ahead of them.
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The 15 best coaching jobs are (with slight variation) the ones that pay the most.
It really is that simple.
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@slrussell: Creighton's Doug McDermott is the Big East player of the week. DePaul's Tommy Hamilton IV is the rookie of the week.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
Debateable but hard to argue with facitlities and recent success.
Think about this from 2002 thru 2011, 10 straight years Pitt was arguably the best program in the best conference in America. They had more league wins, more league regular season championships, more appearances in the conference championship games and 10 straight NCAA Tourney appearances. No one in the BE could touch that. And a tremendous home court. The Peterson Center is a tremendous on campus facility.
Name me a program in the BE that is a better job then Pitt? Seriously. Maybe Georgetown, maybe.
I look at the best jobs in the country as the best historic programs in the country. It can't just be about the success over the last ten years because if that was the case butler would be a better job than Indiana. Which it's not. And it can't just be because f acilities or the type of salary a school can offer because if that were the case then Oregon would be a better job than duke. Also not true.
To add to your list of fourteen for sure teams, I would add Maryland, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, UCONN, Wisconsin.
Then there is these schools which are much more debatable but I would still lean towards better on.
NC State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Cincinnati, Gonzaga, Memphis.
Not trying to take anything away from Pitt, but top 15 job they are not. Their between the 25-30th best and that's pretty damn good.
Disagree. And if history is the deciding factor then UCONN goes nowhere near the top 15 because before Calhoun got there they were a cow pasture.
10 years is no a small sample and it was a pretty dominant 10 years. You don' have that or what UCONN did from the 90's into the mid 2000's if you are a top 30 program. No way.
Andy Glockner of SI.com has his list from September.
He weighs recent success a lot. He has UCONN, Wisconsin and Memphis in his top 15 and Michigan and Texas between 15 and 20.
He tends to agree with you on Pitt.
But either way he confirms my earlier point the only BE school he has in his top 20 is Georgetown.
http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/09/26/ranking-college-basketballs-best-current-programs-6-10/ (http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/09/26/ranking-college-basketballs-best-current-programs-6-10/)
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
Debateable but hard to argue with facitlities and recent success.
Think about this from 2002 thru 2011, 10 straight years Pitt was arguably the best program in the best conference in America. They had more league wins, more league regular season championships, more appearances in the conference championship games and 10 straight NCAA Tourney appearances. No one in the BE could touch that. And a tremendous home court. The Peterson Center is a tremendous on campus facility.
Name me a program in the BE that is a better job then Pitt? Seriously. Maybe Georgetown, maybe.
I look at the best jobs in the country as the best historic programs in the country. It can't just be about the success over the last ten years because if that was the case butler would be a better job than Indiana. Which it's not. And it can't just be because f acilities or the type of salary a school can offer because if that were the case then Oregon would be a better job than duke. Also not true.
To add to your list of fourteen for sure teams, I would add Maryland, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, UCONN, Wisconsin.
Then there is these schools which are much more debatable but I would still lean towards better on.
NC State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Cincinnati, Gonzaga, Memphis.
Not trying to take anything away from Pitt, but top 15 job they are not. Their between the 25-30th best and that's pretty damn good.
Disagee. And if history is the deciding factor then UCONN goes nowhere near the top 15 because before Calhoun got there they were a cow pasture.
10 years is no a small sample and it was a pretty dominant 10 years. You don' have that or what UCONN did from the 90's into the mid 2000's if you are a top 30 program. No way.
You confused me with you final paragraph. The difference With uconn's recent success is that it includes 3 national championships. That's enough for a 100 year period let alone a 15 year one. Again this is my opinion. The difference between a Marquette, Villanova, or Cincy and a Pitt is that those programs have recent success and a great history including NAtional championships, final four appearances, as well as hall of fame coaches and players.
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Pitt is not a top 15 job.
Why do you think there are rumors about Dixon leaving all the time?
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Pitt is not a top 15 job.
Why do you think there are rumors about Dixon leaving all the time?
What?
That is a ridiculous answer. Bill Self was "rumored" to leave Kansas for Oklahoma St, I guess Kansa sucks.
Marquette really must suck because Buzz was rumored to Oklahoma a few years ago.
So because a rumor says a coach might leave that is evidence that the school isn't top 15? Despite the fact that Dixon is still there after a decade...
How about this? I'll start a rumor that Calipari is leaving for Texas after they fire Rick Barnes that in itself proves Kentucky is not an elite job. Seriously....
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But guys don't miss my point, there are reasonable arguments AGAINST my assertion on Pitt. I happen to think the Final Four/NC argument is weak kind of like the Super Bowl argument for QBs. Butler and VCU have more FF then Pitt and no way are they better programs. Calhoun has more NCs then Dean Smith but he is not a better coach or a better program.
But my overall point is where the current BE stands with other conferences. They need to have an SJU step up
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Pitt is not a top 15 job.
Why do you think there are rumors about Dixon leaving all the time?
What?
That is a ridiculous answer. Bill Self was "rumored" to leave Kansas for Oklahoma St, I guess Kansa sucks.
Marquette really must suck because Buzz was rumored to Oklahoma a few years ago.
So because a rumor says a coach might leave that is evidence that the school isn't top 15? Despite the fact that Dixon is still there after a decade...
How about this? I'll start a rumor that Calipari is leaving for Texas after they fire Rick Barnes that in itself proves Kentucky is not an elite job. Seriously....
Those other rumors are ridiculous.
Persistent annual Dixon to the west coast rumors are seen as legit because the general perception is Pittsburgh is not a top 15 job. Apparently so far...you are the only one who thinks Pitt is a top 15 job. At some point general perception becomes reality.
And you are late to the realignment party on bashing the Big East conference.
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Marquette struggling today against Ohio State. As folks have pointed out previously, M'Q has some weaknesses in backcourt. Craft, that annoying, pesky OS guard has taken them to task today. M'Q is down 20 with five minutes to go. Buzz has sweated through five shirts.
Marquette is 1-16 from 3 pt shooting today.
BTW-If you go back to the Final 8 game last year when they lost to Syracuse 55-39 Marquette has 69 points TOTAL right now COMBINED against the last two ranked teams they have played.
Keep also in mind Marquette is by anyone's standard the pre-season top BE team and currently the only ranked BE team. And that will probably change after today which means the BE won't have any ranked teams.
Keep this in mind in 3 early mathcups, SJU/Wisconsin, Georgetown/Oregon and now OSU/Marquette the new BE is 0-3.
Don't get me wrong I am a big supporter of this new conference. But we have a LONG way to go before it is on the level of the Big 10 or ACC. A LONG way to go.
The new conference is pulling in top level recruits at the same or better level than those conferences you mentioned though. So what gives then? The coaches not up to par?
I would be careful about TOP level recruits. Yes they are pulling in a good number of top 100 but how many are top 50, top 25? Seton Hall had to hire a high school coach to get one.
Meanwhile you saw how the top recruits broke yesterday, Duke and Kansas and Louisville.
It was my argument over the summer about the Big East having all these top 60 teams. Great, but how many are top 10 to top 15. 1 or none meanwhile the Big 10 and the ACC have 4-5 EACH. So the BE may have as many top 60 teams the truth is they don't have any elite programs right now.
Always been the case though. While there have been some basketball only schools that made the Final Four or won championships in the last 30 years its still the vast minority.
Precisely my point from months earlier. The Catholic schools needed to bolt but don't kid yourself into thinking that losing Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, UCONN, ND and replacing them with Xavier and Butler is an equal swap.
Geez wait til the ACC gets Louisville next year. They will have arguably 4 of the top 10 most prestigious programs in the country. Cuse, Ville, UNC and Duke.
Throw in Pitt and and that is probably 5 of the top 15 jobs in America in 1 conference.
Pitt a top 15 job in america? I'll have to disagree.
Debateable but hard to argue with facitlities and recent success.
Think about this from 2002 thru 2011, 10 straight years Pitt was arguably the best program in the best conference in America. They had more league wins, more league regular season championships, more appearances in the conference championship games and 10 straight NCAA Tourney appearances. No one in the BE could touch that. And a tremendous home court. The Peterson Center is a tremendous on campus facility.
Name me a program in the BE that is a better job then Pitt? Seriously. Maybe Georgetown, maybe.
I look at the best jobs in the country as the best historic programs in the country. It can't just be about the success over the last ten years because if that was the case butler would be a better job than Indiana. Which it's not. And it can't just be because f acilities or the type of salary a school can offer because if that were the case then Oregon would be a better job than duke. Also not true.
To add to your list of fourteen for sure teams, I would add Maryland, Notre Dame, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, UCONN, Wisconsin.
Then there is these schools which are much more debatable but I would still lean towards better on.
NC State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Cincinnati, Gonzaga, Memphis.
Not trying to take anything away from Pitt, but top 15 job they are not. Their between the 25-30th best and that's pretty damn good.
Disagee. And if history is the deciding factor then UCONN goes nowhere near the top 15 because before Calhoun got there they were a cow pasture.
10 years is no a small sample and it was a pretty dominant 10 years. You don' have that or what UCONN did from the 90's into the mid 2000's if you are a top 30 program. No way.
You confused me with you final paragraph. The difference With uconn's recent success is that it includes 3 national championships. That's enough for a 100 year period let alone a 15 year one. Again this is my opinion. The difference between a Marquette, Villanova, or Cincy and a Pitt is that those programs have recent success and a great history including NAtional championships, final four appearances, as well as hall of fame coaches and players.
Pitt has been a great BE conference program since 2002/2003. Before then, they were typically one of the worst BE programs in the conference along w BC. Uconn's success in the conference didn't just start 15 years ago. It's really more like 25 years ago. Calhoun took his lumps, but once Nadav Henefield and Tate George signed on, things changed for the better, and they never looked back.
Pitt's facilities and overall basketball presence is largely due to the notoriety of their football program. Without football driving awareness to the University, no one would even know they existed. Ben Howland and then Dixon recruited wisely and built the bball program into a perenial top 25 team. For that, they deserve massive credit.
Still, it doesn't put Pitt in the top 15 for anything. While they have clearly proven to be an excellent BE program, when the tournament starts they lay an egg every year. In the BE, I think GTown and Nova are better jobs. Possibly Marquette as well.
In the ACC alone, you've got Louisville, Duke, NC, Maryland, GT, NC State as obviously better, and then you've got other conferences w jobs like Kansas, UK, UF, UCLA, Arizona, MSU, UM, UW, Ind etc. Pitt isn't at that level.
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Pitt did win back to back BE reg season championships in 87 and 88 (send it ni Jerome) but the later Paul Evans years and the Ralph Williard years were very lean. But since Howland started there they've always been good, often very good, just rarely great.
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But guys don't miss my point, there are reasonable arguments AGAINST my assertion on Pitt. I happen to think the Final Four/NC argument is weak kind of like the Super Bowl argument for QBs. Butler and VCU have more FF then Pitt and no way are they better programs. Calhoun has more NCs then Dean Smith but he is not a better coach or a better program.
But my overall point is where the current BE stands with other conferences. They need to have an SJU step up
Quarterbacks can luck out and get on a good team with a great defense. See Dilfer. College basketball programs don't usually luck out and get great players with great results.
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@SIPeteThamel: Northeastern ties with Georgetown. 40-40. Eleven minutes left. ESPNU
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2 Min to go Gwtn56 Ne 56
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GT down 4 with minute to go. They really got outplayed down low, surprising. NE is well coached.
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GT loses by 7! Must think it is March.
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Loss not helpful to BE, but a funny line;
@BSnowScout: Georgetown should just no longer play in tournaments. It really isn't their thing
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Marquette barely beat New Hampshire.
The new Big East is doomed.
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Marquette barely beat New Hampshire.
The new Big East is doomed.
Certainly don't think the Big East is doomed, but we might see a bit of flipping at the top of the league. Marquette has looked awful, and I don't think they are top 3 in the league right now. Georgetown has to figure a few things out as well. Teams like Providence and the Hall could even move up. Very difficult to say how things will shake out, but I think SJU poised to make a run for too of the league this year. Not one team I've seen yet that I don't think we can beat.
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I still think that both Marquette and Gtown will finish near the top of the league. Too much talent and great coaches.
I could see Providence really surprising people with their experience and various guys who can score.
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BE needs this one;
“@CasualHoya: Shootaround: Georgetown Hoyas v. VCU Rams http://sbn.to/19QU79O (http://sbn.to/19QU79O)”
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I was watching Nova at the Sly Fox before heading to CA and I had to keep reminding myself that I have to root for the BE teams against OCC opponents.
VCU ranked #10. Shaka Smart is incredible. They should be in the Big East.
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Seton Hall with a tough loss vs Oklahoma. They looked pretty good
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Butler nips Ball St. by two, remaining unbeaten.
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McDermott just scored 9 points (three threes) in about 90 seconds.
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Creighton beats Tulsa by 10 at home. McDermott is so efficient, smart & talented. Old school type player. Envious!
@bluejaybanter: Jays hold on to win! 82-72 final behind 33 points and 15 rebounds from Doug McDermott. Big game for Austin Chatman, too.
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10 pt wins over a mid-major are unacceptable. Sign of impending doom.
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10 pt wins over a mid-major are unacceptable. Sign of impending doom.
I get residuals when you use that term.
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Like this kid. Heady!
@JonRothstein: Jaren Sina willing Seton Hall back. Has 13 first half points. Pirates up 30-29. 3:40 first half.
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@CasualHoya: Hoyas trail VCU 30-29 at half. Georgetown with 14 turnovers, 11 in last 21 possessions.
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Love this kid!
@JonRothstein: Melvin "The Microwave" Johnson is heating up for VCU. Has 3 3's. Rams up 48-41 over Georgetown. HAVOC starting to pick up. Hoyas w 19 TOs.
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Love this kid!
@JonRothstein: Melvin "The Microwave" Johnson is heating up for VCU. Has 3 3's. Rams up 48-41 over Georgetown. HAVOC starting to pick up. Hoyas w 19 TOs.
Same, he is gonna be a great player
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GT over VCU by 4. Nice win.
Glad I could watch this instead of Jets' vomit.
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@CasualHoya: Georgetown's win over 10th ranked VCU is the 1st win by the Big East over a Top 25 team.
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@WeAreDePaul: Wichita State is a 7 1/2 pt. favorite over the Blue Demons tonight on latest Vegas line #dpubb
WS coach is terrific. Really knows Juco & transfer terrain.
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Nice summary of upcoming tourney and non tourney games. SJU prognosis;
St. John's Red Storm
Tuesday 7:00pm vs. Longwood Lancers
Longwood has few bright spots in their roster. Senior Guard Tristan Carey, a transfer from La Salle, is averaging 18.8 PPG, but no one else on the team gets into the double digits. St. John's will win this game before taking a very quick trip to Brooklyn for the Barclays Center Classic, pending the traffic.
Thursday 7:00pm vs. Penn State Nittany Lions
The Barclays Center Classic schedule look like so:
I love how it neglects to say "Consolation" or "Championship" and blatantly says "winners and losers." I respect the to-the-point attitude of the Barclays.
Don't let the prominent name and 4-1 record fool you: Penn State has not been great this year. Senior Guard Tim Frazier has added a spark to the backcourt with 20.5 PPG and 7.3 APG, however the team still only gets 13 APG as a whole. The fast paced Red Storm should be a shock to the Lion system, and should be one of the winners. The Ole Miss Rebels should also be "winners" over the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets and St. John's should put its pieces together and win outright with all the talent they hold. All the Big East teams better watch out for them once they figure out their game plan.
Entire BE overview;
@VUhoops: BIG EAST Basketball Preview: Week 4 http://t.co/J57VhkgOi5 (http://t.co/J57VhkgOi5)
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@SetonHallMBB: Congrats to Seton Hall freshman guard Jaren Sina for being named @bigeastmbb Rookie of the Week #hallball #raisethesword"
Doug McD player of week.
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@HolyLandofHoops: Latest AP poll has Creighton #20, Marquette #25. Villanova, Xavier and Georgetown receiving votes.
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We're not gonna see votes unless we run table going into Cuse game.
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We're not gonna see votes unless we run table going into Cuse game.
Sensing we will run table fwiw.
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We're not gonna see votes unless we run table going into Cuse game.
Sensing we will run table fwiw.
Your lips to God's ears.
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Is it possible the BE could kick out Butler and replace them with UMass ?
Just huge mistake letting that program in knowing that Stevens would not be there much longer.
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UMass has football
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Is it possible the BE could kick out Butler and replace them with UMass ?
Just huge mistake letting that program in knowing that Stevens would not be there much longer.
Butler has been good for going on 20 years now
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Is it possible the BE could kick out Butler and replace them with UMass ?
Just huge mistake letting that program in knowing that Stevens would not be there much longer.
And umass would be your choice? Butler isn't a flash in the pan program. They were good before Stevens.
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Providence deserves votes. I know I sound like Shurina here, but they look dangerous.
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Providence deserves votes. I know I sound like Shurina here, but they look dangerous.
They did in the coaches poll
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No Mayo either;
@MarquetteMBB: ASU remains red hot from behind the 3-point line, draining 6-of-11 attempts. #mubb trails 33-18 with 7:52 left.
@BSnowScout: Marquette's early season struggles is one of the more baffling things. Just look lost without Cadougan and Vander Blue
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@raphiellej: Much has been made of Marquette’s offensive issues, but you’re not winning on the road allowing a team to shoot 54% from the field. Down 10 at half.
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Marquette looks awful IMO. Not worried about them at all right now. Too bad because we need them to be good but SJU better at this point. Hope we hear about Jordan soon though...
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Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today
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Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today
We're the new A10.
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Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today
We're the new A10.
To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league
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Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today
We're the new A10.
To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league
Why does the conference need time? These programs haven't changed. It's many of the same teams. DePaul is awful. Probably the worst high major team in the nation, yet again. I think if anything, the teams that have not pulled their weight need to recognize that it's their turn.
It took STJ 6 years to fire a complete nice person. But at least w Lavin, they are trying. There may not be a a top tier program in the BE this year, and that's dangerous going forward. If we play like we're the new A10, then that is what we are.
Personally, I think just about every program in the conference has the right to point the finger at us for sucking for so long. If the BE is going to survive, we have to man up.
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Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today
We're the new A10.
To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league
That's a compliment coming from the poison. He thought they were better then the bigeast last year.
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Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today
We're the new A10.
To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league
That's a compliment coming from the poison. He thought they were better then the bigeast last year.
Better?
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I get it that in the early part of the season, even good teams will sometimes slip up a few times because they look past an opposing team, and the underdog plays a great game and pulls off the upset. Duke needed a last second free throw to edge out the Vermont Catamounts, at Duke, earlier this week, so sh!t happens. Problem is, the new BE doesn't offer nearly as many redemption opportunities as the old BE (e.g., beat ND, Pitt , UConn, Cincy and a half dozen games against the weaker teams in the old BE, and you were likely dancing). So unless the current BE teams either run the table against cupcakes and other mildly good teams before conference play, or schedule and win a few games against out-of-conference heavyweight programs, the teams in the new BE will not get much love from the polls, and to Poison's point, puts the BE in a very similar situation as the A10, imo.
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DF. For what it's worth, the A-10 got more ncaa bids last year than the ACC. Good teams will still make the tourney.
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DF. For what it's worth, the A-10 got more ncaa bids last year than the ACC. Good teams will still make the tourney.
Not a big ACC fan I take it MCN. ;)
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Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today
We're the new A10.
To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league
That's a compliment coming from the poison. He thought they were better then the bigeast last year.
Better?
Did I make this up? I remember you goin on for about a week during tourney time that they were better.
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Not a good day for the big east, Marquette, Providence & DePaul all lose. Xavier the only team to win today
We're the new A10.
To be fair I think you gotta give the conference a few years to make a judgement like that. As a conference we are recruiting at a very high level so there are signs that this can still be a top league
That's a compliment coming from the poison. He thought they were better then the bigeast last year.
Better?
Did I make this up? I remember you goin on for about a week during tourney time that they were better.
I said after Louisville and SU they were better. And they were.
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DF. For what it's worth, the A-10 got more ncaa bids last year than the ACC. Good teams will still make the tourney.
Not a big ACC fan I take it MCN. ;)
ACC has actively tried to sink the Big East for a long time now. Every fan of current Big East teams should despise the ACC IMHO.
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DF. For what it's worth, the A-10 got more ncaa bids last year than the ACC. Good teams will still make the tourney.
Not a big ACC fan I take it MCN. ;)
ACC has actively tried to sink the Big East for a long time now. Every fan of current Big East teams should despise the ACC IMHO.
I know I do.
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ACC has actively tried to sink the Big East for a long time now. Every fan of current Big East teams should despise the ACC IMHO.
Totally agree--they should be called the BECC (Big East Coast Conference). After this season when MD leaves and L'ville comes in 7 of the 15 schools will be former BE schools. The only reason they exist is because of the attacks on us. They will reap what they have sewn when the SEC and the Big 12 come after some of the real FB programs.
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DF. For what it's worth, the A-10 got more ncaa bids last year than the ACC. Good teams will still make the tourney.
Not a big ACC fan I take it MCN. ;)
ACC has actively tried to sink the Big East for a long time now. Every fan of current Big East teams should despise the ACC IMHO.
Hating a conference does not mean inventing ridiculous arguments that no one believes for the sole purpose of trying to convince people of something that simply is not true.
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DF. For what it's worth, the A-10 got more ncaa bids last year than the ACC. Good teams will still make the tourney.
Not a big ACC fan I take it MCN. ;)
ACC has actively tried to sink the Big East for a long time now. Every fan of current Big East teams should despise the ACC IMHO.
Hating a conference does not mean inventing ridiculous arguments that no one believes for the sole purpose of trying to convince people of something that simply is not true.
I have to agree 100% with this.
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I didn't invent any ridiculous arguments. Not in the least. Just stated that I want them to lose as much as possible, and that the more they lose, the better it is for us. The first part is opinion. The second part is fact.
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Doug McDermott came out with aggression and energy from the opening tip, and Creighton seemed to be in control the entire game. Arizona State made a couple of runs – late in the first half and midway through the second half – but it was all Bluejays on Thursday night. McDermott finished with 27 points and six rebounds, but the story going forward could be the emergence of junior college transfer Devin Brooks. The talented guard from New York came off the bench to score 23 points; he gives Creighton a player who can get his own shot whenever he wants. On the other side, Carson seemed frustrated at times against Creighton, and was missing shots he normally makes with ease. He finished with 15 points and four assists.
The same Devin Brooks from St. Rays we once looked at. Adonis' brother Joey is also referenced in article from 2009 below;
http://nypost.com/2009/11/24/young-ravens-will-take-time-to-fly/ (http://nypost.com/2009/11/24/young-ravens-will-take-time-to-fly/)
@CBSSports: "The Doug McDermott-Jahii Carson matchup didn't live up to the hype." -@EyeOnCBB on a busy Thursday in college hoops: http://t.co/6GufSWOb9r (http://t.co/6GufSWOb9r)
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Two BE teams in nice 14 Old Spice & Atlantis tourneys;
@ESPNAndyKatz: Better field in '14? Old Spice (MichSt, KU, GTech, Marq, Tenn, X, Rider, SClara) or Atlantis (UNC, UF, UCLA, Wis, Gtown, OK, UAB, But)?
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Butler who was picked to finish 9th this year in the Big East is in a street fight with #5 OK State and Marcus Smart.
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Butler is well coached, smart team that shoots well. Envious!
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OSU wins by 2 in nail biter. great effort Butler!
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OSU wins by 2 in nail biter. great effort Butler!
Marshall makes Obekpa look smooth from foul line...What was Brown thinking...took his time coming down court with 6+ left
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OSU wins by 2 in nail biter. great effort Butler!
Marshall makes Obekpa look smooth from foul line...What was Brown thinking...took his time coming down court with 6+ left
Freshman brain fart. Why was he even taking the shot?
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I'd be having sweaty nightmares tonight if I were a Butler fan about those bricked free throws. Kinda right after witnessing Nuri donk those free throws against Texas A&M.
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OSU wins by 2 in nail biter. great effort Butler!
Marshall makes Obekpa look smooth from foul line...What was Brown thinking...took his time coming down court with 6+ left
Freshman brain fart. Why was he even taking the shot?
Exactly...they should have been under orders to give it to Dunham ...
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Creighton loses to SDSU by 6 after trailing by 19.
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Nova just beat #2 Kansas. Arcidiacono makes 2 treys late and he is 5-29 from three thus far this year. Signature win for the Big East, no thanks to SJU of course...
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Arcidiacono nails a big jumper to beat Kansas. Clutch! He had missed all five of previous shots.
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Nova just beat #2 Kansas. Arcidiacono makes 2 treys late and he is 5-29 from three thus far this year. Signature win for the Big East, no thanks to SJU of course...
1 trey
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Nova just beat #2 Kansas. Arcidiacono makes 2 treys late and he is 5-29 from three thus far this year. Signature win for the Big East, no thanks to SJU of course...
1 trey
Sorry, announcer said 2 I believe. I thought I just missed one while grabbing something from the fridge. Regardless, great win for the Big East. To bad SJU hasn't been part of moving this league forward... #depressed.
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Nova just beat #2 Kansas. Arcidiacono makes 2 treys late and he is 5-29 from three thus far this year. Signature win for the Big East, no thanks to SJU of course...
1 trey
Sorry, announcer said 2 I believe. I thought I just missed one while grabbing something from the fridge. Regardless, great win for the Big East. To bad SJU hasn't been part of moving this league forward... #depressed.
What you gonna do? Have to live with it. Hope that Marquette, Nova, Gtown and Creighton and some 5th team carry the conference this year and we smarten up at some point and don't let it drag.
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Did anyone get a whiff of coaching going on. That iis what coaching is all about.
Hammer to rock!
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Nova just beat #2 Kansas. Arcidiacono makes 2 treys late and he is 5-29 from three thus far this year. Signature win for the Big East, no thanks to SJU of course...
1 trey
Sorry, announcer said 2 I believe. I thought I just missed one while grabbing something from the fridge. Regardless, great win for the Big East. To bad SJU hasn't been part of moving this league forward... #depressed.
What you gonna do? Have to live with it. Hope that Marquette, Nova, Gtown and Creighton and some 5th team carry the conference this year and we smarten up at some point and don't let it drag.
What am I gonna do? Nothing.. Just get old before we win any compelling games. I'll be getting my jiu jitsu purple belt before we make any waves, and that's gonna take me a while. Want SJU to be part of some winning ball sooner or later. I was worried about this game, then I turn on Nova beating Kansas. They're getting better, we are getting worse. I'm hoping Lavin can get things moving. I know it's early, but seems we are constantly re-learning the game.
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SDSU 86 Creighton 80
Polee: 4 for 7 on Field goals of which 2 of 5 were 3s 1 for 1 from free throw lane =11 points
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Gtown dismisses Whittington
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team)
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Nova just downed Iowa in OT. Nova easily top 15 team right now, and in the higher end I think.
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Looks like others are aware of the same ridiculous theories...
http://syracusefan.com/threads/acc-ranked-7th-in-rpi-with-only-5-in-top-100.62563/ (http://syracusefan.com/threads/acc-ranked-7th-in-rpi-with-only-5-in-top-100.62563/)
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Nova's new folks have really played well. VU's ability to get to the line so much is enhanced by new restrictive foul rules. Great start!
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Nova has a fantastic core that plays great together. Myself and others called this over the summer, I'm not surprised by their start at all.
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I thought lack of size would be their achilles heel. Shows how little I know about basketball.
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Gtown dismisses Whittington
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team)
I thought lack of size would be their achilles heel. Shows how little I know about basketball.
You know that Wright's game is the 3-4 player perimeter offense. They do it well. The bigs are usually manageable enough, but you'll never see many top bigs going to Nova.
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Gtown dismisses Whittington
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team)
I thought lack of size would be their achilles heel. Shows how little I know about basketball.
You know that Wright's game is the 3-4 player perimeter offense. They do it well. The bigs are usually manageable enough, but you'll never see many top bigs going to Nova.
Also like Jay's solid recruits this year, as well as transfer Ennis. Nice, smart players.
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Seton Hall loses to Fairleigh Dickinson by four. Really need Tiny Morton! FD has knocked off Rutgers & SH.
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Gtown dismisses Whittington
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team)
I thought lack of size would be their achilles heel. Shows how little I know about basketball.
You know that Wright's game is the 3-4 player perimeter offense. They do it well. The bigs are usually manageable enough, but you'll never see many top bigs going to Nova.
I know that Nova is always guard-centric. I just never really expect it to work so well.
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@NYPost_Brazille: I can't imagine how St. John's fans would react if they performed the way the other Jersey schools have against mid-majors.
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LSU over Butler in OT.
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Gtown dismisses Whittington
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10056297/greg-whittington-georgetown-hoyas-dismissed-team)
I thought lack of size would be their achilles heel. Shows how little I know about basketball.
You know that Wright's game is the 3-4 player perimeter offense. They do it well. The bigs are usually manageable enough, but you'll never see many top bigs going to Nova.
I know that Nova is always guard-centric. I just never really expect it to work so well.
For sure. Arcidiacono was hurt last season, or else the wouldn't have done as poorly.
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Seton Hall loses to Fairleigh Dickinson by four. Really need Tiny Morton! FD has knocked off Rutgers & SH.
Oh, that's too bad. Shameful, really.
Nova, on the other hand is the best team in the league right now, and they should be ranked. IMO they are a top 20 team, at least.
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One guy's opinion;
@NewBigEastConf: #BigEast Power Rankings: 10 #SHBB 9 #DePaul 8 #SJBB 7 #Xavier 6 #Marquette 5 #Providence 4 #Butler 3 #Georgetown 2 #Creighton 1 #Villanova
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One guy's opinion;
@NewBigEastConf: #BigEast Power Rankings: 10 #SHBB 9 #DePaul 8 #SJBB 7 #Xavier 6 #Marquette 5 #Providence 4 #Butler 3 #Georgetown 2 #Creighton 1 #Villanova
Butler lost again today. They won't be there. Not sure who this is, but no way we are 8th with only two losses, our worst being against a solid Big Ten team in OT. That game we should have won. I think SJU around 5th or so.
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Seton Hall loses to Fairleigh Dickinson by four. Really need Tiny Morton! FD has knocked off Rutgers & SH.
Oh, that's too bad. Shameful, really.
Nova, on the other hand is the best team in the league right now, and they should be ranked. IMO they are a top 20 team, at least.
Nova should be top 15 at minimum. Agree they are the cream right now, and that's good for the conference.
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One guy's opinion;
@NewBigEastConf: #BigEast Power Rankings: 10 #SHBB 9 #DePaul 8 #SJBB 7 #Xavier 6 #Marquette 5 #Providence 4 #Butler 3 #Georgetown 2 #Creighton 1 #Villanova
Butler lost again today. They won't be there. Not sure who this is, but no way we are 8th with only two losses, our worst being against a solid Big Ten team in OT. That game we should have won. I think SJU around 5th or so.
I am actually impressed with Butler so far. Playing without the kid Roosevelt Jones I expected them to be a disaster and they have been pretty good. Took Okie St to the wire with a chance to take the lead at the line late before losing and then losing to LSU in OT today.
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One guy's opinion;
@NewBigEastConf: #BigEast Power Rankings: 10 #SHBB 9 #DePaul 8 #SJBB 7 #Xavier 6 #Marquette 5 #Providence 4 #Butler 3 #Georgetown 2 #Creighton 1 #Villanova
Butler lost again today. They won't be there. Not sure who this is, but no way we are 8th with only two losses, our worst being against a solid Big Ten team in OT. That game we should have won. I think SJU around 5th or so.
Wasn't Penn St picked like 11th in the BIG 10? Why do some call them a solid BIG 10 team. I know pre season predictions are not dispositive on how good a team will be and I am not saying maybe they won't do well but how at this point can they be called a solid BIG 10 team? Because they beat us?
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One guy's opinion;
@NewBigEastConf: #BigEast Power Rankings: 10 #SHBB 9 #DePaul 8 #SJBB 7 #Xavier 6 #Marquette 5 #Providence 4 #Butler 3 #Georgetown 2 #Creighton 1 #Villanova
Butler lost again today. They won't be there. Not sure who this is, but no way we are 8th with only two losses, our worst being against a solid Big Ten team in OT. That game we should have won. I think SJU around 5th or so.
I am actually impressed with Butler so far. Playing without the kid Roosevelt Jones I expected them to be a disaster and they have been pretty good. Took Okie St to the wire with a chance to take the lead at the line late before losing and then losing to LSU in OT today.
Definitely a solid team. They had a lead for much of the game on LSU. I too think they'll be competitive. They're well coached and young. Not denigrating them, just that they are somewhere in the middle and likely aren't in top few due to recent, even though narrow losses. I still love them as a member of the Big East and they'll be a headache for teams all season.
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Providence needs to stop playing scared against UK. They're certainly a talented group at uk, but Providence feeding into it. Providence could be even right now...
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Creighton just bit it against GW. McDermott was 2-12.
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Hard to say. They aren't playing scared at this point any more. They have a lot of talent at Providence. I think we are pretty evenly matched actually, but you're right, they may be ahead a little bit with their inside game offensively. Derosiers is a big help for them at his height. He's second best shotblocker in conference to Obekpa. I want to see em win this game though. Cauley-Stein is the difference maker here. Without him, Providence would be ahead.
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Providence getting screwed a bit in this game with fouls IMO. Getting touch fouls called, yet uk has to mug them to get a call.
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
So you're saying we can form a reasonable judgement on Providence because of the competition they've played thus far? Gotchya. But just don't do that regarding Penn State, because you "can't do that".
Glad we cleared that up. Explain something else to us why don't you?
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And let me be clear I am not knocking Providence. I think Cooley has done a real nice job there challenging the mediocrity that has been PC basketball.
But I am just fascinated by SJU fans who are so quick to judge SJU when they beat an underwhelming opponent by 18 but then want to crown a fellow BE team because they only "trail" and overhyped UK team by 4 at halftime.
If you watched SHU play Oklahoma you would say the same thing. Then if you watched them today you would think they belong in the MAAC.
How about Butler? I can tell you Oklahoma St is BETTER then Kentucky right now. Not close quite frankly. So is Wisconsin. UK may be real good at the end of the year but right now they are not a top 5 team. They are hyped that way because of their class NOT because they have played like it.
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
So you're saying we can form a reasonable judgement on Providence because of the competition they've played thus far? Gotchya. But just don't do that regarding Penn State, because you "can't do that".
Glad we cleared that up. Explain something else to us why don't you?
Fwiw, for the most part, Providence defense is worse than ours. It has been since Cooley took over. They need help there even more than we do.
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
So you're saying we can form a reasonable judgement on Providence because of the competition they've played thus far? Gotchya. But just don't do that regarding Penn State, because you "can't do that".
Glad we cleared that up. Explain something else to us why don't you?
Read my next post and I explained it guy. Personally I don't think either team has been particularly impressive which also makes my point.
And good for you I will be here to explain things so you don't wallow in your own ignorance.
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And let me be clear I am not knocking Providence. I think Cooley has done a real nice job there challenging the mediocrity that has been PC basketball.
But I am just fascinated by SJU fans who are so quick to judge SJU when they beat an underwhelming opponent by 18 but then want to crown a fellow BE team because they only "trail" and overhyped UK team by 4 at halftime.
If you watched SHU play Oklahoma you would say the same thing. Then if you watched them today you would think they belong in the MAAC.
How about Butler? I can tell you Oklahoma St is BETTER then Kentucky right now. Not close quite frankly. So is Wisconsin. UK may be real good at the end of the year but right now they are not a top 5 team. They are hyped that way because of their class NOT because they have played like it.
Hahaha
Lenn Robbins @LennRobbins 2m
If @johncalipari can get @KentuckyMBB to play defense like this for 6 games in March-April you're looking at the NCAA champ
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My overall point has little to do with if you think SJU is living up to there hype or not. I am personally not happy with the loss to PSU.
It just seems some of you will literally INVENT reasons to criticize SJU with non-sensical posts that are not researched and quite frankly fall flat.
I don't believe in judging a team by a few games I sure as hell don't think you can judge a program because of a few minutes.
My God if that is the case then most of the BE is behind Cleveland St....
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
So you're saying we can form a reasonable judgement on Providence because of the competition they've played thus far? Gotchya. But just don't do that regarding Penn State, because you "can't do that".
Glad we cleared that up. Explain something else to us why don't you?
Read my next post and I explained it guy. Personally I don't think either team has been particularly impressive which also makes my point.
And good for you I will be here to explain things so you don't wallow in your own ignorance.
Right. I'll be anxiously awaiting your next flip flop. Or not.
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My overall point has little to do with if you think SJU is living up to there hype or not. I am personally not happy with the loss to PSU.
It just seems some of you will literally INVENT reasons to criticize SJU with non-sensical posts that are not researched and quite frankly fall flat.
I don't believe in judging a team by a few games I sure as hell don't think you can judge a program because of a few minutes.
My God if that is the case then most of the BE is behind Cleveland St....
Nobody happy about our PSU loss. But if our worst loss entering Big East play is an overtime loss to a solid Big Ten team who we should have beaten in regulation, then we are doing well. We need to hold serve and at minimum beat everybody we need to beat. MIT we beat Cuse, it's a huge bonus.
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My overall point has little to do with if you think SJU is living up to there hype or not. I am personally not happy with the loss to PSU.
It just seems some of you will literally INVENT reasons to criticize SJU with non-sensical posts that are not researched and quite frankly fall flat.
I don't believe in judging a team by a few games I sure as hell don't think you can judge a program because of a few minutes.
My God if that is the case then most of the BE is behind Cleveland St....
Nobody happy about our PSU loss. But if our worst loss entering Big East play is an overtime loss to a solid Big Ten team who we should have beaten in regulation, then we are doing well. We need to hold serve and at minimum beat everybody we need to beat. MIT we beat Cuse, it's a huge bonus.
You didn't watch the PSU game, how can you tell me it's not that bad a loss?
We played horrendous for 30 minutes. It was embarrassing. And then we came out and scored 4pts in the first 12mins against Georgia Tech.
It's not the end of the world, and nobody should be encouraging Linda and the other loons. But coming out of this weekend it's very difficult to say we're on the right track.
We're treading water. I wish there were these bright signs of what we could become, but you have to look very very hard to see any progress.
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Bad night for the big east with Marquette, creighton and providence all losing. Marquette will fall from the top 25 and possibly creighton as well.
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Bad night for the big east with Marquette, creighton and providence all losing. Marquette will fall from the top 25 and possibly creighton as well.
What makes this league so tough is that, with the exception of DePaul, it will be highly difficult to sweep anyone. Holding serve at home and stealing two BE road games seems a recipe for NCAA tourney participation. A Cuse win, very improbable, but not impossible, adds flexibility to equation.
The BE has thus far not awed anyone, but it is a solid league. Every night will be a war and fun to watch. It may never rival old BE, but, without dominant top dogs, every game should prove exciting. Oddly, as stated, it will be hard to sweep teams, but any team not bringing A game every night runs risk of being swept. Hope that makes sense.
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Bad night for the big east with Marquette, creighton and providence all losing. Marquette will fall from the top 25 and possibly creighton as well.
What makes this league so tough is that, with the exception of DePaul, it will be highly difficult to sweep anyone. Holding serve at home and stealing two BE road games seems a recipe for NCAA tourney participation. A Cuse win, very improbable, but not impossible, adds flexibility to equation.
The BE has thus far not awed anyone, but it is a solid league. Every night will be a war and fun to watch. It may never rival old BE, but, without dominant top dogs, every game should prove exciting. Oddly, as stated, it will be hard to sweep teams, but any team not bringing A game every night runs risk of being swept. Hope that makes sense.
I agree. Not a lot of star power like the old big east, but a solid and competitve league.
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Watched the Marquette/San Diego State game, State is built similar to our team just X Thames shoots a better percentage from 3 than D'Lo.
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Watched the Marquette/San Diego State game, State is built similar to our team just X Thames shoots a better percentage from 3 than D'Lo.
I like Winston Sheperd too. Wouldn't have minded him on the team.
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Nova 14 in AP & 19 in Coaches poll.
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@AdamZagoria: Villanova's James Bell named Big East Player of the Week. DePaul's Billy Garrett Jr Rookie of the Week
@StJohnsBBall: Congrats to D'Angelo Harrison, selected to the @BIGEASTConf Honor Roll for the first time this season and ninth time in his career. #SJUBB
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
Providence's performance has been much more impressive than St. John's to date.
Wins over BC, Lasalle , Vanderbilt, and Vermont (Who almost beat duke in Cameron) are much more impressive than St. John's wins over I guess GT is the only one worth listing comparing to PC's wins. Yes Wisconsin is good, but Penn State is bad. That is a bad loss for St. John's. Penn State is not a tournament team. Much worse of a loss than PC's to Maryland who is at least a Bubble team ( I think they end up on the wrong side, but they'll be on the bubble). Penn State is no where near the bubble.
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Providence's performance has been much more impressive than St. John's to date.
Wins over BC, Lasalle , Vanderbilt, and Vermont (Who almost beat duke in Cameron) are much more impressive than St. John's wins over I guess GT is the only one worth listing comparing to PC's wins. Yes Wisconsin is good, but Penn State is bad. That is a bad loss for St. John's. Penn State is not a tournament team. Much worse of a loss than PC's to Maryland who is at least a Bubble team ( I think they end up on the wrong side, but they'll be on the bubble). Penn State is no where near the bubble.
[/quote]Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
Providence's performance has been much more impressive than St. John's to date.
Wins over BC, Lasalle , Vanderbilt, and Vermont (Who almost beat duke in Cameron) are much more impressive than St. John's wins over I guess GT is the only one worth listing comparing to PC's wins. Yes Wisconsin is good, but Penn State is bad. That is a bad loss for St. John's. Penn State is not a tournament team. Much worse of a loss than PC's to Maryland who is at least a Bubble team ( I think they end up on the wrong side, but they'll be on the bubble). Penn State is no where near the bubble.
Impressive?
BC 3-4, lost to Toledo
Lasalle 3-4, lost to Manhattan and Penn State
Vandy 4-3, have beat nobody
Vermont 3-6, lost to Wagner
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Providence's performance has been much more impressive than St. John's to date.
Wins over BC, Lasalle , Vanderbilt, and Vermont (Who almost beat duke in Cameron) are much more impressive than St. John's wins over I guess GT is the only one worth listing comparing to PC's wins. Yes Wisconsin is good, but Penn State is bad. That is a bad loss for St. John's. Penn State is not a tournament team. Much worse of a loss than PC's to Maryland who is at least a Bubble team ( I think they end up on the wrong side, but they'll be on the bubble). Penn State is no where near the bubble.
Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
Providence's performance has been much more impressive than St. John's to date.
Wins over BC, Lasalle , Vanderbilt, and Vermont (Who almost beat duke in Cameron) are much more impressive than St. John's wins over I guess GT is the only one worth listing comparing to PC's wins. Yes Wisconsin is good, but Penn State is bad. That is a bad loss for St. John's. Penn State is not a tournament team. Much worse of a loss than PC's to Maryland who is at least a Bubble team ( I think they end up on the wrong side, but they'll be on the bubble). Penn State is no where near the bubble.
Impressive?
BC 3-4, lost to Toledo
Lasalle 3-4, lost to Manhattan and Penn State
Vandy 4-3, have beat nobody
Vermont 3-6, lost to Wagner
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all still better than GT
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
Providence's performance has been much more impressive than St. John's to date.
Wins over BC, Lasalle , Vanderbilt, and Vermont (Who almost beat duke in Cameron) are much more impressive than St. John's wins over I guess GT is the only one worth listing comparing to PC's wins. Yes Wisconsin is good, but Penn State is bad. That is a bad loss for St. John's. Penn State is not a tournament team. Much worse of a loss than PC's to Maryland who is at least a Bubble team ( I think they end up on the wrong side, but they'll be on the bubble). Penn State is no where near the bubble.
Neither is Maryland who lost at home to Oregon St. Look you maybe right, but it is hardly overwhelming. LaSalle lost 4 times already including at home to a MAAC school. Vermont was 1-5. Vandy has done nothing this year. None of those teams are Tourney teams.
Let's be clear neither one of those teams has beaten a NCAA team yet and PC lost to a team who you claim to be a bubble team that has a home loss to Oregon St already. You can't use Vermont nearly beating X and then ignore LaSalle having all of these losses and Maryland losing at home already.
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SJU beat the favorite in the NEC, Wagner. That does not better a win over a 1-5 Vermont team, why?
Because Vermont nearly beat Duke? OK.
Well LIU lost to Indiana by 1 at IU. So would you be impressed if SJU beat LIU instead of Holy Cross or Wagner? Why?
Keep in mind in addition to that 1 point loss to Indiana LIU also lost to E Washington by THIRY TWO POINTS and BU by FIFTEEN.
Does anyone here think an SJU win over LIU would be impressive?
I am not suggesting SJU has done a lot yet, by no means. But PC’s schedule is hardly overwhelming either and you can argue PC has lost to the two best teams on their schedule.
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The field for the 2014 Battle 4 Atlantis has been revealed;
The eight teams: Florida, North Carolina, UCLA, Georgetown, Wisconsin, Butler, Oklahoma and UAB.
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I've been the first to discount both the PSU loss and the GT win, but both teams are playing well tonight.
Georgia Tech leads Illinois at half and Penn State is up 2 on Pittsburgh.
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I've been the first to discount both the PSU loss and the GT win, but both teams are playing well tonight.
Georgia Tech leads Illinois at half and Penn State is up 2 on Pittsburgh.
Look I don't think either one is tremendous but PSU in particular is not "terrible." That backcourt they have is legit. Pat Chambers is a really good up and coming coach.
And ask yourself this, PSU plays Providence right now are you telling me Providence blows them out? Says who? Based on what? Because they only trailed Kentucky by 15 midway thru the second half?
PSU is terrible??
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Providence looking very capable tonight. Think they are the ahead of us at this point.
Based on what? So because they play a decent half against a Kentucky team that really has not look good at all this year including trailing Cleveland St by 10 with 7 minutes to play at home is somehow evidence they are good.
They beat BC in OT, a BC team that opened the season 0-3. They beat Brown by 4. Brown is who? They lost to a Maryland team, scoring a grand total of 52 points, that lost at home to Oregon St. An Oregon St team that has a home loss to Coppin St and now a blowout loss on the road to...DePaul...
I love SJU fans. They critique the hell out of SJU and then watch another team for 5 minutes and they are not only experts on those teams but already to make judgements on where SJU fits 6-7 games into the season.
Providence's performance has been much more impressive than St. John's to date.
Wins over BC, Lasalle , Vanderbilt, and Vermont (Who almost beat duke in Cameron) are much more impressive than St. John's wins over I guess GT is the only one worth listing comparing to PC's wins. Yes Wisconsin is good, but Penn State is bad. That is a bad loss for St. John's. Penn State is not a tournament team. Much worse of a loss than PC's to Maryland who is at least a Bubble team ( I think they end up on the wrong side, but they'll be on the bubble). Penn State is no where near the bubble.
You may be right on some points...SJ hasn't looked good...But Providence has not exactly beaten anybody great either...Further, while Penn State may not be a tourney team, they are not a bad team...Frankly, the Hoyas could lose to them if they played...they play smart and hard for 40 minutes...
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
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I've been the first to discount both the PSU loss and the GT win, but both teams are playing well tonight.
Georgia Tech leads Illinois at half and Penn State is up 2 on Pittsburgh.
Agreed. Those games certainly look better after last night. I'll admit I was wrong. I still think Providence has looked better in terms of actual play, but St. John's schedule does look better than I previously thought.
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
And it could just as easily be a 5 bid even 6 bid league. How bout we play a full season?
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
And it could just as easily be a 5 bid even 6 bid league. How bout we play a full season?
I don't think it could just as easily anymore. Half of OOC schedule as gone and most of us missed a lot of our opportunities for quality wins.
St. John's Missed on Wisconsin, only has Syracuse left to get a quality OOC win.
Georgetown Missed on Oregon, got VCU, Still has Kansas, and Michigan St left
Butler missed on Oklahoma St and LSU best OOC game left is Purdue
Xavier missed on Iowa, and rematch with tennessee, just has Cincinnati left
Providence missed on Kentucky, Maryland got BC ( I think this will be a decent win by the end of the year but maybe not), just have Umass left
Creighton missed on San Diego St got @ St. Joes and Arizona St, only has Cal left
Marquette missed on Ohio St, San Diego St, Arizona St, only has @ Wisconsin left
Villanova did what they need to do.
BE has a lot of top 100 teams, but only 2 top 50 teams in the RPI currently. Not going to be a lot of high RPI wins to be gained in conference play this year. Last year there were 8 BE teams with top 50 RPIs. You had at least 8 chances to pick up a top 50 win in conference. Right now you only get 4 with home and homes with Nova and Butler. Yes the RPI will improve hopefully we can get 4 teams in the top 50 of the RPI before conference play so we have those same 8 opportunities for quality wins.
Right now Creighton, Georgetown, and Villanova have secured an OOC win that will help them get into the tourney. We would need a heck of a lot to go right to get 6 teams at this point and 5 is looking hard as well. Looking a lot more like 4.
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
And it could just as easily be a 5 bid even 6 bid league. How bout we play a full season?
I don't think it could just as easily anymore. Half of OOC schedule as gone and most of us missed a lot of our opportunities for quality wins.
St. John's Missed on Wisconsin, only has Syracuse left to get a quality OOC win.
Georgetown Missed on Oregon, got VCU, Still has Kansas, and Michigan St left
Butler missed on Oklahoma St and LSU best OOC game left is Purdue
Xavier missed on Iowa, and rematch with tennessee, just has Cincinnati left
Providence missed on Kentucky, Maryland got BC ( I think this will be a decent win by the end of the year but maybe not), just have Umass left
Creighton missed on San Diego St got @ St. Joes and Arizona St, only has Cal left
Marquette missed on Ohio St, San Diego St, Arizona St, only has @ Wisconsin left
Villanova did what they need to do.
BE has a lot of top 100 teams, but only 2 top 50 teams in the RPI currently. Not going to be a lot of high RPI wins to be gained in conference play this year. Last year there were 8 BE teams with top 50 RPIs. You had at least 8 chances to pick up a top 50 win in conference. Right now you only get 4 with home and homes with Nova and Butler. Yes the RPI will improve hopefully we can get 4 teams in the top 50 of the RPI before conference play so we have those same 8 opportunities for quality wins.
Right now Creighton, Georgetown, and Villanova have secured an OOC win that will help them get into the tourney. We would need a heck of a lot to go right to get 6 teams at this point and 5 is looking hard as well. Looking a lot more like 4.
Quick Question Hooli: Who is JTIII's main asst. working with Team Takeover? They did fast work with MDerr.
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
And it could just as easily be a 5 bid even 6 bid league. How bout we play a full season?
I don't think it could just as easily anymore. Half of OOC schedule as gone and most of us missed a lot of our opportunities for quality wins.
St. John's Missed on Wisconsin, only has Syracuse left to get a quality OOC win.
Georgetown Missed on Oregon, got VCU, Still has Kansas, and Michigan St left
Butler missed on Oklahoma St and LSU best OOC game left is Purdue
Xavier missed on Iowa, and rematch with tennessee, just has Cincinnati left
Providence missed on Kentucky, Maryland got BC ( I think this will be a decent win by the end of the year but maybe not), just have Umass left
Creighton missed on San Diego St got @ St. Joes and Arizona St, only has Cal left
Marquette missed on Ohio St, San Diego St, Arizona St, only has @ Wisconsin left
Villanova did what they need to do.
BE has a lot of top 100 teams, but only 2 top 50 teams in the RPI currently. Not going to be a lot of high RPI wins to be gained in conference play this year. Last year there were 8 BE teams with top 50 RPIs. You had at least 8 chances to pick up a top 50 win in conference. Right now you only get 4 with home and homes with Nova and Butler. Yes the RPI will improve hopefully we can get 4 teams in the top 50 of the RPI before conference play so we have those same 8 opportunities for quality wins.
Right now Creighton, Georgetown, and Villanova have secured an OOC win that will help them get into the tourney. We would need a heck of a lot to go right to get 6 teams at this point and 5 is looking hard as well. Looking a lot more like 4.
Unfortunately, I think you're right. Almost makes Cuse a must win game for us.
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
And it could just as easily be a 5 bid even 6 bid league. How bout we play a full season?
I don't think it could just as easily anymore. Half of OOC schedule as gone and most of us missed a lot of our opportunities for quality wins.
St. John's Missed on Wisconsin, only has Syracuse left to get a quality OOC win.
Georgetown Missed on Oregon, got VCU, Still has Kansas, and Michigan St left
Butler missed on Oklahoma St and LSU best OOC game left is Purdue
Xavier missed on Iowa, and rematch with tennessee, just has Cincinnati left
Providence missed on Kentucky, Maryland got BC ( I think this will be a decent win by the end of the year but maybe not), just have Umass left
Creighton missed on San Diego St got @ St. Joes and Arizona St, only has Cal left
Marquette missed on Ohio St, San Diego St, Arizona St, only has @ Wisconsin left
Villanova did what they need to do.
BE has a lot of top 100 teams, but only 2 top 50 teams in the RPI currently. Not going to be a lot of high RPI wins to be gained in conference play this year. Last year there were 8 BE teams with top 50 RPIs. You had at least 8 chances to pick up a top 50 win in conference. Right now you only get 4 with home and homes with Nova and Butler. Yes the RPI will improve hopefully we can get 4 teams in the top 50 of the RPI before conference play so we have those same 8 opportunities for quality wins.
Right now Creighton, Georgetown, and Villanova have secured an OOC win that will help them get into the tourney. We would need a heck of a lot to go right to get 6 teams at this point and 5 is looking hard as well. Looking a lot more like 4.
Agree with post suggesting to let season play out. That said, your analysis is spot on. Not "doomed", but challenging to get more than four teams in NCAAs. We'll see. Regarding Johnnies, plain & simple, it is time to put a solid run together. Even if we lose to Cuse, the opportunity for success lies in stealing some quality BE wins on road & holding serve at home. Step up guys!
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
And it could just as easily be a 5 bid even 6 bid league. How bout we play a full season?
I don't think it could just as easily anymore. Half of OOC schedule as gone and most of us missed a lot of our opportunities for quality wins.
St. John's Missed on Wisconsin, only has Syracuse left to get a quality OOC win.
Georgetown Missed on Oregon, got VCU, Still has Kansas, and Michigan St left
Butler missed on Oklahoma St and LSU best OOC game left is Purdue
Xavier missed on Iowa, and rematch with tennessee, just has Cincinnati left
Providence missed on Kentucky, Maryland got BC ( I think this will be a decent win by the end of the year but maybe not), just have Umass left
Creighton missed on San Diego St got @ St. Joes and Arizona St, only has Cal left
Marquette missed on Ohio St, San Diego St, Arizona St, only has @ Wisconsin left
Villanova did what they need to do.
BE has a lot of top 100 teams, but only 2 top 50 teams in the RPI currently. Not going to be a lot of high RPI wins to be gained in conference play this year. Last year there were 8 BE teams with top 50 RPIs. You had at least 8 chances to pick up a top 50 win in conference. Right now you only get 4 with home and homes with Nova and Butler. Yes the RPI will improve hopefully we can get 4 teams in the top 50 of the RPI before conference play so we have those same 8 opportunities for quality wins.
Right now Creighton, Georgetown, and Villanova have secured an OOC win that will help them get into the tourney. We would need a heck of a lot to go right to get 6 teams at this point and 5 is looking hard as well. Looking a lot more like 4.
The problem I am seeing is playing everyone twice it will be tough to sweep. So you might not have extremes of a two loss or two win team in conference. So you get a lot of people bunched up in the middle. Then you have to add in the other factors of OOC wins and BET performance. I still think its way too early to say 3 bid, 5 bid whatever.
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Of course, we'll let the season play out. College basketball is still fun to watch, even if it's maddening at times.
This is the year I thought we'd be ranked after the Lavin hire. Now we're hoping to eke our way into the tournament.
I just hope there's a sense of urgency. No one thinks the BE is what it used to be. Three bids are realistic but aren't etched in stone. Teams with gaudy records and few top 25 wins get passed over all the time.
I hope it's not us.
In my heart, I still think we can finish in the top three in the conference. Fourth or fifth and we may be posting at the end of the year that we got screwed.
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
And it could just as easily be a 5 bid even 6 bid league. How bout we play a full season?
I don't think it could just as easily anymore. Half of OOC schedule as gone and most of us missed a lot of our opportunities for quality wins.
St. John's Missed on Wisconsin, only has Syracuse left to get a quality OOC win.
Georgetown Missed on Oregon, got VCU, Still has Kansas, and Michigan St left
Butler missed on Oklahoma St and LSU best OOC game left is Purdue
Xavier missed on Iowa, and rematch with tennessee, just has Cincinnati left
Providence missed on Kentucky, Maryland got BC ( I think this will be a decent win by the end of the year but maybe not), just have Umass left
Creighton missed on San Diego St got @ St. Joes and Arizona St, only has Cal left
Marquette missed on Ohio St, San Diego St, Arizona St, only has @ Wisconsin left
Villanova did what they need to do.
BE has a lot of top 100 teams, but only 2 top 50 teams in the RPI currently. Not going to be a lot of high RPI wins to be gained in conference play this year. Last year there were 8 BE teams with top 50 RPIs. You had at least 8 chances to pick up a top 50 win in conference. Right now you only get 4 with home and homes with Nova and Butler. Yes the RPI will improve hopefully we can get 4 teams in the top 50 of the RPI before conference play so we have those same 8 opportunities for quality wins.
Right now Creighton, Georgetown, and Villanova have secured an OOC win that will help them get into the tourney. We would need a heck of a lot to go right to get 6 teams at this point and 5 is looking hard as well. Looking a lot more like 4.
Quick Question Hooli: Who is JTIII's main asst. working with Team Takeover? They did fast work with MDerr.
I'm not positive who is the main takeover guy between Kevin Broadus and Kevin Sutton both have a lot of DC ties. But yeah that was a very nice early win for us.
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If 21 or 22 total wins with no "bad losses" doesn't get us a tournament berth, we absolutely must beef up the non conference schedule going forward. I can't see us going 12-6 in conference this year, which might be required to make the dance absent winning the conference tournament or beating Cuse next week.
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We could ......beat three teams twice....and six other teams once....not impossible.
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We could ......beat three teams twice....and six other teams once....not impossible.
NCAA's here we come
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How many BE teams make the tournament if every school comes in with a so-so ooc record and then beat each other up during the BE season?
Does it really matter that the BE only has one ranked team now?
If that beat down occurs, it is possible this could be a three bid league. We'll see.
I agree, this could be a three bid league. That means we better have it together as Lavin promised when it starts.
And it could just as easily be a 5 bid even 6 bid league. How bout we play a full season?
I don't think it could just as easily anymore. Half of OOC schedule as gone and most of us missed a lot of our opportunities for quality wins.
St. John's Missed on Wisconsin, only has Syracuse left to get a quality OOC win.
Georgetown Missed on Oregon, got VCU, Still has Kansas, and Michigan St left
Butler missed on Oklahoma St and LSU best OOC game left is Purdue
Xavier missed on Iowa, and rematch with tennessee, just has Cincinnati left
Providence missed on Kentucky, Maryland got BC ( I think this will be a decent win by the end of the year but maybe not), just have Umass left
Creighton missed on San Diego St got @ St. Joes and Arizona St, only has Cal left
Marquette missed on Ohio St, San Diego St, Arizona St, only has @ Wisconsin left
Villanova did what they need to do.
BE has a lot of top 100 teams, but only 2 top 50 teams in the RPI currently. Not going to be a lot of high RPI wins to be gained in conference play this year. Last year there were 8 BE teams with top 50 RPIs. You had at least 8 chances to pick up a top 50 win in conference. Right now you only get 4 with home and homes with Nova and Butler. Yes the RPI will improve hopefully we can get 4 teams in the top 50 of the RPI before conference play so we have those same 8 opportunities for quality wins.
Right now Creighton, Georgetown, and Villanova have secured an OOC win that will help them get into the tourney. We would need a heck of a lot to go right to get 6 teams at this point and 5 is looking hard as well. Looking a lot more like 4.
I think it's been a dismal for every BE team with the exception of Nova, and maybe Creighton. I think every other team has at least one loss that they really shouldn't have. I'd ask how GTown lost to Northeastern, but parity reigns today. It happens all over.
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Providence leading Rhody by 1 with 7 minutes remaining. Hassan Martin has looked good in spots for RI, really runs floor well. I know he has an edge, but if Lav ever left, I would take Hurley in a heartbeat. Mas of Manhattan as well. Lol
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Enjoyed this game. Cooley & Hurley jawed at each other in heat of battle and atmosphere was great in Kingston.
PC nips Rhody by one.
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Enjoyed this game. Cooley & Hurley jawed at each other in heat of battle and atmosphere was great in Kingston.
PC nips Rhody by one.
So Hurley just catapulted up my next coach list :)
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Enjoyed this game. Cooley & Hurley jawed at each other in heat of battle and atmosphere was great in Kingston.
PC nips Rhody by one.
That was hilarious
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Was that Rhody's on campus home court arena? If so I'm jealous!
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Was that Rhody's on campus home court arena? If so I'm jealous!
Dont be, the place is usually like a library
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Marquette lost today to Wisconsin on the road 70-64. No shame in that certainly as Wisconsin is the real thing. Not only is Wisconsin undefeated but they have wins over SJU, Florida, St. Louis, Virginia and now Marquette. That is some resume ALREADY.
But Marquette essentially went 0-4 in marquee games this year: Ohio St, Arizona St, San Diego St and Wisconsin.
No shame in any of those losses as the Ohio St game was the only game at home and Buzz is such a good coach that he should have them ready come BE season but your pre-season favorite has 4 losses already.
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Marquette lost today to Wisconsin on the road 70-64. No shame in that certainly as Wisconsin is the real thing. Not only is Wisconsin undefeated but they have wins over SJU, Florida, St. Louis, Virginia and now Marquette. That is some resume ALREADY.
But Marquette essentially went 0-4 in marquee games this year: Ohio St, Arizona St, San Diego St and Wisconsin.
No shame in any of those losses as the Ohio St game was the only game at home and Buzz is such a good coach that he should have them ready come BE season but your pre-season favorite has 4 losses already.
The question is what is the line between a tough scheduled to being a fool for scheduling such a hard OOC schedule?
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Todd Mayo of Marquette has been suspended indefinitely for team rules violation. Another head case!
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@AdamZagoria: Doug McDermott named Big East Player of the Week...Xavier's Myles Davis Rookie of the Week
Davis is former St. Peter's of Jersey City teammate of Ron Roberts.
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@AdamZagoria: Sterling Gibbs, Dom Pointer, JayVaughn Pinkston, Semaj Christon and Kellen Dunham all made the Big East honor roll
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Why is Butler playing a D3 team ?
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Why is Butler playing a D3 team ?
Why is Butler playing a D3 team ?
Why is Butler playing a D3 team ?
Baylor also played one last week.
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@JeffEisenberg: Two ACC teams headline my list of the nation's most disappointing teams so far. http://t.co/cQIbEAp779 (http://t.co/cQIbEAp779)
4. Marquette (5-4)
Four times, Marquette has had a chance this season to notch a marquee win. Each time, the Golden Eagles have come up short. Losses against Ohio State, Arizona State, San Diego State and Wisconsin have exposed the fact that Marquette is not yet at the level expected when the Golden Eagles were anointed preseason favorites in the Big East.
They have not been quite as formidable as usual defensively and they're not getting nearly enough perimeter scoring to complement a strong frontcourt. With Vander Blue turning pro a year earlier than expected and highly touted freshman Duane Wilson out with a stress fracture, Marquette has lacked scoring punch. Derrick Wilson is a solid defensive-minded point guard better suited for the backup role than a starting job and Todd Mayo remains erratic and prone to mistakes off the floor that land him in the dog house. Jake Thomas is the team's lone outside shooting threat, but he doesn't bring much else and he hasn't been hitting consistently from behind the arc either.
All hope is not lost since Marquette has faced a challenging schedule, but the backcourt play must improve for the Eagles to get where they hope to be by March.
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Seton Hall is hanging tough w NJIT. Two evenly matched teams.
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Seton Hall is hanging tough w NJIT. Two evenly matched teams.
Well hope the Hall wins it. We need our league to represent and win these types of games that we should win.
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Seton Hall is hanging tough w NJIT. Two evenly matched teams.
Well hope the Hall wins it. We need our league to represent and win these types of games that we should win.
I think we are well past that stage. They lost to FDU. This is not a resume builder opponent. Seton Hall will probably be better next year provided everything works out with their shady recruiting.
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Hate the Hall, but they are playing without two key forecourt players, Edwin (their star) and Auda ... although freshman Sterling Gibbs seems to be their best player. The kid's play -- not just his numbers -- has been very impressive to date..
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Seton Hall is hanging tough w NJIT. Two evenly matched teams.
Well hope the Hall wins it. We need our league to represent and win these types of games that we should win.
I think we are well past that stage. They lost to FDU. This is not a resume builder opponent. Seton Hall will probably be better next year provided everything works out with their shady recruiting.
Even with their recruiting, they are going to be graduating Edwin, Teague, Oliver and Geramipoor. I thought they were losing Auda too but think he might be a junior. We've also heard some questions on whether Delgado will meet eligibility from some of he pundits here. I think they still might have a tough time transitioning.
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Hate the Hall, but they are playing without two key forecourt players, Edwin (their star) and Auda ... although freshman Sterling Gibbs seems to be their best player. The kid's play -- not just his numbers -- has been very impressive to date..
Gibbs is solid. Agreed. He's not a freshman, but he's solid. As far as injuries are concerned, it is just the way things have gone there since they fired Gonzo.
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Seton Hall is hanging tough w NJIT. Two evenly matched teams.
Well hope the Hall wins it. We need our league to represent and win these types of games that we should win.
I think we are well past that stage. They lost to FDU. This is not a resume builder opponent. Seton Hall will probably be better next year provided everything works out with their shady recruiting.
Even with their recruiting, they are going to be graduating Edwin, Teague, Oliver and Geramipoor. I thought they were losing Auda too but think he might be a junior. We've also heard some questions on whether Delgado will meet eligibility from some of he pundits here. I think they still might have a tough time transitioning.
I think Teague is fine. Slow, but strong. Edwin is fine as well, but the rest are garbage.
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Seton Hall is hanging tough w NJIT. Two evenly matched teams.
Well hope the Hall wins it. We need our league to represent and win these types of games that we should win.
I think we are well past that stage. They lost to FDU. This is not a resume builder opponent. Seton Hall will probably be better next year provided everything works out with their shady recruiting.
Even with their recruiting, they are going to be graduating Edwin, Teague, Oliver and Geramipoor. I thought they were losing Auda too but think he might be a junior. We've also heard some questions on whether Delgado will meet eligibility from some of he pundits here. I think they still might have a tough time transitioning.
I think Teague is fine. Slow, but strong. Edwin is fine as well, but the rest are garbage.
Edwin is an All Big East player. Not only excellent defender but good shooter too. Teague is a very crafty scorer and rebounder. Neither will be easily replaceable. Oliver will also be missed. He's averaging over 10ppg right now and shooting 42% from 3. They will be losing 3 of their biggest contributors. Most of their big recruits are at the guard position where they will be a bit logjammed. Very little of the talent they are bringing in thus far are legitimate frontcourt prospects.
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Last night was Mayaan's last game with the team. Has to go back to Israel to fulfill military obligations
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Last night was Mayaan's last game with the team. Has to go back to Israel to fulfill military obligations
His 2 ppg and TOs will be sorely missed.
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Hate the Hall, but they are playing without two key forecourt players, Edwin (their star) and Auda ... although freshman Sterling Gibbs seems to be their best player. The kid's play -- not just his numbers -- has been very impressive to date..
Gibbs is solid. Agreed. He's not a freshman, but he's solid. As far as injuries are concerned, it is just the way things have gone there since they fired Gonzo.
Poison, I stand corrected about Gibbs' status. Keep forgetting he's a Texas transfer, mainly because he didn't see much PT there.
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Last night was Mayaan's last game with the team. Has to go back to Israel to fulfill military obligations
His 2 ppg and TOs will be sorely missed.
Well and good but its a hit to depth. 15-20 mpg and 3 assists a game too.
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@BigEastDaily: Is the Big East a "power conference?" http://t.co/jVOdxx4WA5 (http://t.co/jVOdxx4WA5)
Right now, the answer is no. We really need a win against Syracuse for both SJU and the BE to be taken seriously at this point.
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If we aren't a power conference, neither is the SEC and possibly the Big 12. Therefore, we are a power conference. If we consistently get 40%+ of the league in the tournament, this won't even be a question.
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If we aren't a power conference, neither is the SEC and possibly the Big 12. Therefore, we are a power conference. If we consistently get 40%+ of the league in the tournament, this won't even be a question.
Ding ding ding ding
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If we aren't a power conference, neither is the SEC and possibly the Big 12. Therefore, we are a power conference. If we consistently get 40%+ of the league in the tournament, this won't even be a question.
Kansas #13, Oklahoma State #16, Baylor #18, Iowa State #22
Big 12 isn't in the same boat. But I agree with you that the SEC is comparable after UK and Florida
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@BigEastDaily: Is the Big East a "power conference?" http://t.co/jVOdxx4WA5 (http://t.co/jVOdxx4WA5)
Right now, the answer is no. We really need a win against Syracuse for both SJU and the BE to be taken seriously at this point.
I agree. It's our turn to man up. We can cry all we want Uconn, SU and Louisville quitting on the BE, the fact remains many of the conferences original teams have not be pulling their weight. I think STJ, Seton Hall and Providence have got to perform better.
Seton Hall will be improved next season, and Providence has shown some potential this season w limited players, but IMO, we have to lead the conference THIS season. Two tourney bids in 13 seasons is dreadful. It's on par w Penn State and Virginia Tech.
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@CerasolisGhost: Big East has 3rd best conference rating in KenPom behind Big Ten, ACC. Three top-25 teams in Villanova (5), Creighton (18), Georgetown (25).
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@CerasolisGhost: Big East has 3rd best conference rating in KenPom behind Big Ten, ACC. Three top-25 teams in Villanova (5), Creighton (18), Georgetown (25).
But I thought we weren't a power conference
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Big East has the best conference rating in HRsystem.
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DePaul beat Florida Atlantic and Jarvis last night. FAU dropped to 3-7. How does that man still have a job?
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@BigEastDaily: The new Big East: St. John's finds a stable home in a new league with an old name http://t.co/3y6TxToicb (http://t.co/3y6TxToicb)
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Over Indy, Nova and others;
@insidethehall: Class of 2015 Trenton Catholic (N.J.) wing and #iubb recruiting target Malachi Richardson has committed to Syracuse.
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DePaul beat Florida Atlantic and Jarvis last night. FAU dropped to 3-7. How does that man still have a job?
I watched part of that game. FA actually played okay. Do you think Jarvis at FA should be expected to beat a BE team on the road? 3-7 in med December isn't that big of a deal for FA because if they play BE teams tight, then it's likely they'll be tough in conference play.
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DePaul beat Florida Atlantic and Jarvis last night. FAU dropped to 3-7. How does that man still have a job?
I watched part of that game. FA actually played okay. Do you think Jarvis at FA should be expected to beat a BE team on the road? 3-7 in med December isn't that big of a deal for FA because if they play BE teams tight, then it's likely they'll be tough in conference play.
I think the great Mike Jarvis should have a better stint at Florida Atlantic than 6-26, 14-16, 21-11, 12-19, 14-18 and 3-7 now.
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He was only there two years. Wish our AD would find a better opportunity, not likely
@EyeOnCBB: Marquette announces late on a Friday that its AD is stepping down, effective immediately http://t.co/1Nr10olHog (http://t.co/1Nr10olHog)
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DePaul beat Florida Atlantic and Jarvis last night. FAU dropped to 3-7. How does that man still have a job?
I watched part of that game. FA actually played okay. Do you think Jarvis at FA should be expected to beat a BE team on the road? 3-7 in med December isn't that big of a deal for FA because if they play BE teams tight, then it's likely they'll be tough in conference play.
I think the great Mike Jarvis should have a better stint at Florida Atlantic than 6-26, 14-16, 21-11, 12-19, 14-18 and 3-7 now.
I agree, but where were they before he arrived? At least he had one good year. My only real point is to say that I thought FA looked decent last night. If anyone should have a better stint, it's Purnell. That guy is the worst coach in BE history. He's even worse than Norm.
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Purnell did a good job at Dayton. maybe he doesn't have the resources and support necessary to resurrect a long dormant program. I really don't know. Maybe a contributing factor are all the inner city murders of young people in Chicago make it hard to keep kids home and maybe even to bring them in.
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Purnell did a good job at Dayton. maybe he doesn't have the resources and support necessary to resurrect a long dormant program. I really don't know. Maybe a contributing factor are all the inner city murders of young people in Chicago make it hard to keep kids home and maybe even to bring them in.
In the 70's and 80's Chicago had a TON of murders. Purnell needs to take the blame here. In other news, Seton Hall is f'n terrible.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/09/18/fbi-chicago-passes-new-york-as-murder-capital-of-u-s/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/09/18/fbi-chicago-passes-new-york-as-murder-capital-of-u-s/)
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Seton Hall struggling with St. Peter's late and Gibbs just went down in agony with a knee injury.
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Seton Hall struggling with St. Peter's late and Gibbs just went down in agony with a knee injury.
Was it me or did the cheerleader like shove him back onto the court?
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Holy crap what a shot by Oliver from near midcourt with 1.1 seconds left to tie.
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Seton Hall hits long three to tie St. Peter's who chose not to foul. Gibbs was injured, carried off court earlier
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Holy crap what a shot by Oliver from near midcourt with 1.1 seconds left to tie.
Holy crap what a shot by Oliver from near midcourt with 1.1 seconds left to tie.
That was incredible. Win or lose, that's a signature moment for Seton Hall. This is a big game for them if they have CBI aspirations.
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Seton Hall loses by three. St. Peter's deserved this one.
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Seton hall is so bad without Edwin. If Willard didn't have whitehead coming in next year, he'd have to get canned. They are an embarrassment
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@JPGuerette: Sina had "one of those days." 0-7 from the field, 0-4 from three, four turnovers, 1 assist. #shbb
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@DalyDoseOfHoops: Kevin Willard on Sterling Gibbs: "We'll know more after he gets his MRI tomorrow, but it doesn't look good." #shbb
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@DalyDoseOfHoops: Kevin Willard on Sterling Gibbs: "We'll know more after he gets his MRI tomorrow, but it doesn't look good." #shbb
@DalyDoseOfHoops: Kevin Willard on Sterling Gibbs: "We'll know more after he gets his MRI tomorrow, but it doesn't look good." #shbb
@DalyDoseOfHoops: Kevin Willard on Sterling Gibbs: "We'll know more after he gets his MRI tomorrow, but it doesn't look good." #shbb
While I wish their fans endless suffering, I hope Gibbs is okay. He's a very good player, who made a terrible decision to play for Seton Hall after making a terrible decision to play for Texas. The next school he plays for, he should let someone else pick it.
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@DalyDoseOfHoops: Kevin Willard on Sterling Gibbs: "We'll know more after he gets his MRI tomorrow, but it doesn't look good." #shbb
@DalyDoseOfHoops: Kevin Willard on Sterling Gibbs: "We'll know more after he gets his MRI tomorrow, but it doesn't look good." #shbb
@DalyDoseOfHoops: Kevin Willard on Sterling Gibbs: "We'll know more after he gets his MRI tomorrow, but it doesn't look good." #shbb
While I wish their fans endless suffering, I hope Gibbs is okay. He's a very good player, who made a terrible decision to play for Seton Hall after making a terrible decision to play for Texas. The next school he plays for, he should let someone else pick it.
that cracked me up :)
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Seton Hall loses by three. St. Peter's deserved this one.
Think about this. Even with both playing essentially mediocre/bad non-conference schedules Rutgers and SHU have a combined 11 losses already and 7 at home and we are not even halfway thru December yet.
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willard will still have his job because of all of the recruits he got especially whitehead - probably saved his job .
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willard will still have his job because of all of the recruits he got especially whitehead - probably saved his job .
He was always going to get 5 years.
But now you know why he had to go all out for this class. They were probably not going to make the NCAAs this year anyway if you were objectively projecting and that was before these injuries and losses and now after a 3-15 conference record last year a probable tough year again that raises the specter of him having to do something spectacular next year. And he was not going to do that with the Canaris Island pipeline.
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willard will still have his job because of all of the recruits he got especially whitehead - probably saved his job .
He was always going to get 5 years.
But now you know why he had to go all out for this class. They were probably not going to make the NCAAs this year anyway if you were objectively projecting and that was before these injuries and losses and now after a 3-15 conference record last year a probable tough year again that raises the specter of him having to do something spectacular next year. And he was not going to do that with the Canaris Island pipeline.
He won't win next year either...Whitehead may be good but he will not transform them from where they are now to a contender
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
nice ! but you should be watching frosty right now :)
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
nice ! but you should be watching frosty right now :)
How about Frosty Returns with Jonathan Winters!!!!
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
nice ! but you should be watching frosty right now :)
How about Frosty Returns with Jonathan Winters!!!!
I'm not a big fan of the one that's on right now. The claymation christmas ones are my favorite. Rudolph and the year without a santa claus. Then the one with the burgermeister meisterburger and then charlie brown then the original frosty.
I'm 43 and I watch these literally every year. lol
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
nice ! but you should be watching frosty right now :)
How about Frosty Returns with Jonathan Winters!!!!
I'm not a big fan of the one that's on right now. The claymation christmas ones are my favorite. Rudolph and the year without a santa claus. Then the one with the burgermeister meisterburger and then charlie brown then the original frosty.
I'm 43 and I watch these literally every year. lol
100%
1) Rudolph 2) Frosty 3) Santa Claus is Coming to Town (Burgermeister Burger) 4) Charlie Brown
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
nice ! but you should be watching frosty right now :)
How about Frosty Returns with Jonathan Winters!!!!
I'm not a big fan of the one that's on right now. The claymation christmas ones are my favorite. Rudolph and the year without a santa claus. Then the one with the burgermeister meisterburger and then charlie brown then the original frosty.
I'm 43 and I watch these literally every year. lol
100%
1) Rudolph 2) Frosty 3) Santa Claus is Coming to Town (Burgermeister Burger) 4) Charlie Brown
Good list but you gotta throw the Grinch in there
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
Xavier wins the Crosstown Rivalry by 17.
BTW-I always liked Mick Cronin and his teams are always tough and know how to defend. But man they can be hard to watch offensively sometimes. No flow, bad shot selection and low percentage shooting. They play a lot of ugly basketball even when they win.
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
nice ! but you should be watching frosty right now :)
How about Frosty Returns with Jonathan Winters!!!!
I'm not a big fan of the one that's on right now. The claymation christmas ones are my favorite. Rudolph and the year without a santa claus. Then the one with the burgermeister meisterburger and then charlie brown then the original frosty.
I'm 43 and I watch these literally every year. lol
100%
1) Rudolph 2) Frosty 3) Santa Claus is Coming to Town (Burgermeister Burger) 4) Charlie Brown
Good list but you gotta throw the Grinch in there
tru dat. forgot about the grinch. thats a classic also
heck it might not be top 5 but I love that one with the baby new year kid with big ears
And another big ear one that people my generation might remember and I haven't seen it in awhile and just thought of it. Nestor the long eared christmas donkey.
I'm going to find that one on youtube to watch it
Movie wise polar express was real good. Obviously christmas story is a classic and I watch it's a wonderful life every year
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Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol is near the top, and Yogi's First Christmas is also very good.
MJ: Nestor is included in one of those holiday multipacks. Comes included as one of the sub movies under the main famous feature.
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Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol is near the top, and Yogi's First Christmas is also very good.
MJ: Nestor is included in one of those holiday multipacks. Comes included as one of the sub movies under the main famous feature.
Loved Yogi, but when is it ever on TV anymore?
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Good for him. @NJHoopsHaven: Here’s the word on Sterling Gibbs: “Hyperextension and bruised knee, out 1-2 weeks.” Best possible news for Gibbs & Seton Hall
@SterlingGibbs4: Finally leaving the doctors office with good news! Nothing serious
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Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol is near the top, and Yogi's First Christmas is also very good.
MJ: Nestor is included in one of those holiday multipacks. Comes included as one of the sub movies under the main famous feature.
Loved Yogi, but when is it ever on TV anymore?
It's not. I debate every year whether to pull the trigger on Amazon, then always put it off. I have two daughters so will use them as an excuse for the purchase.
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
Xavier wins the Crosstown Rivalry by 17.
BTW-I always liked Mick Cronin and his teams are always tough and know how to defend. But man they can be hard to watch offensively sometimes. No flow, bad shot selection and low percentage shooting. They play a lot of ugly basketball even when they win.
Cronin-Roberts games were the worst. That is probably why Roberts faired so well against Cincy.
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@KevinMcNamara33: It's an 18-3 run to close the half at Providence as Yale ties, 35-35.
GT trailing Elon by four with a minute left in first half.
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East might be deepest conference in nation | FOX Sports on MSN http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz (http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz)
Interesting particularly as Fox has TV rights, I took this with a grain of salt.
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PC beats Yale by two.
GT also in control up 9 w 2 minutes left.
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East might be deepest conference in nation | FOX Sports on MSN http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz (http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz)
Interesting particularly as Fox has TV rights, I took this with a grain of salt.
Big Ten is the deepest, but I think we could be second. Our league will only get better IMO over next few years as well.
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I love it. Xavier is destroying Cincinnati right now. 33-14 and at the line shooting two. Hope they keep the foot on the gas.
Xavier wins the Crosstown Rivalry by 17.
BTW-I always liked Mick Cronin and his teams are always tough and know how to defend. But man they can be hard to watch offensively sometimes. No flow, bad shot selection and low percentage shooting. They play a lot of ugly basketball even when they win.
Cronin-Roberts games were the worst. That is probably why Roberts faired so well against Cincy.
For some reason it seems to me like Kilpatrick has been playing for 10 years
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East might be deepest conference in nation | FOX Sports on MSN http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz (http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz)
Interesting particularly as Fox has TV rights, I took this with a grain of salt.
Big Ten is the deepest, but I think we could be second. Our league will only get better IMO over next few years as well.
"We" could be...We could also be the 5th or 6th deepest. Whereas the Big 10 and the ACC will NEVER be 5th or 6th even in bad year because they have so many programs (Mich St, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Duke UNC, Syracuse (soon to be Louisville) that you know will be Good/Great every year.
Syracuse is BETTER then any BE school including Nova. UNC and Duke are as good as Nova and in most years they are going to better if not MUCH better. And I have not even talked about Louisville.
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East might be deepest conference in nation | FOX Sports on MSN http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz (http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz)
Interesting particularly as Fox has TV rights, I took this with a grain of salt.
Big Ten is the deepest, but I think we could be second. Our league will only get better IMO over next few years as well.
"We" could be...We could also be the 5th or 6th deepest. Whereas the Big 10 and the ACC will NEVER be 5th or 6th even in bad year because they have so many programs (Mich St, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Duke UNC, Syracuse (soon to be Louisville) that you know will be Good/Great every year.
Syracuse is BETTER then any BE school including Nova. UNC and Duke are as good as Nova and in most years they are going to better if not MUCH better. And I have not even talked about Louisville.
Depth is relative to the number of teams as well though Fordham, as it relates to percentage of good teams compared to teams in the league. Not arguing that the ACC is better at the top, but after the first few, I think we have more good Big East teams.
P.S. as we speak undefeated Pitt lost to a Cincy team that was just blown out by Xavier,
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East might be deepest conference in nation | FOX Sports on MSN http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz (http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz)
Interesting particularly as Fox has TV rights, I took this with a grain of salt.
Big Ten is the deepest, but I think we could be second. Our league will only get better IMO over next few years as well.
"We" could be...We could also be the 5th or 6th deepest. Whereas the Big 10 and the ACC will NEVER be 5th or 6th even in bad year because they have so many programs (Mich St, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Duke UNC, Syracuse (soon to be Louisville) that you know will be Good/Great every year.
Syracuse is BETTER then any BE school including Nova. UNC and Duke are as good as Nova and in most years they are going to better if not MUCH better. And I have not even talked about Louisville.
Depth is relative to the number of teams as well though Fordham, as it relates to percentage of good teams compared to teams in the league. Not arguing that the ACC is better at the top, but after the first few, I think we have more good Big East teams.
P.S. as we speak undefeated Pitt lost to a Cincy team that was just blown out by Xavier,
Right. 2 years ago Xavier blew out Cincy as well, a CIncy team that went to the Sweet 16 and went 12-6 in the BEST conference in the country, the BE.
And they beat Pitt by a point after Pitt missed two FT's to go up 3 in an UGLY game. The X beat Y who then beat Z is the WORST argument known to man. It does not work. Do you really think Xavier goes to Pitt and would beat Pitt by 20?? Or even win the game???
And I'll say it again depth is nice, the A-10 has had depth, but you are defined by the 3-4-5 teams you can count on being really good. The BE is not even CLOSE to that level of the Big 10 or the ACC even in a down year for them. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East might be deepest conference in nation | FOX Sports on MSN http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz (http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz)
Interesting particularly as Fox has TV rights, I took this with a grain of salt.
Big Ten is the deepest, but I think we could be second. Our league will only get better IMO over next few years as well.
"We" could be...We could also be the 5th or 6th deepest. Whereas the Big 10 and the ACC will NEVER be 5th or 6th even in bad year because they have so many programs (Mich St, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Duke UNC, Syracuse (soon to be Louisville) that you know will be Good/Great every year.
Syracuse is BETTER then any BE school including Nova. UNC and Duke are as good as Nova and in most years they are going to better if not MUCH better. And I have not even talked about Louisville.
Depth is relative to the number of teams as well though Fordham, as it relates to percentage of good teams compared to teams in the league. Not arguing that the ACC is better at the top, but after the first few, I think we have more good Big East teams.
P.S. as we speak undefeated Pitt lost to a Cincy team that was just blown out by Xavier,
Right. 2 years ago Xavier blew out Cincy as well, a CIncy team that went to the Sweet 16 and went 12-6 in the BEST conference in the country, the BE.
And they beat Pitt by a point after Pitt missed two FT's to go up 3 in an UGLY game. The X beat Y who then beat Z is the WORST argument known to man. It does not work. Do you really think Xavier goes to Pitt and would beat Pitt by 20?? Or even win the game???
And I'll say it again depth is nice, the A-10 has had depth, but you are defined by the 3-4-5 teams you can count on being really good. The BE is not even CLOSE to that level of the Big 10 or the ACC even in a down year for them. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Not even close, yet last year the A-10 got more teams last year into the tourney than the ACC. Isn't that a pretty decent measure of close vs "not close"? I'm sorry, but this year the ACC aside from Cuse and Duke really isn't very good. UNC is coming on and has talent but who else? Don't bring up Louisville because they are not there yet. To say its not close is silly at this point, when the results on the court aren't showing that. A 9-0 Pitt team just lost to a tough but unspectacular Cincy team coming off a blowout. I'm not buying it.
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East might be deepest conference in nation | FOX Sports on MSN http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz (http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz)
Interesting particularly as Fox has TV rights, I took this with a grain of salt.
Big Ten is the deepest, but I think we could be second. Our league will only get better IMO over next few years as well.
"We" could be...We could also be the 5th or 6th deepest. Whereas the Big 10 and the ACC will NEVER be 5th or 6th even in bad year because they have so many programs (Mich St, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Duke UNC, Syracuse (soon to be Louisville) that you know will be Good/Great every year.
Syracuse is BETTER then any BE school including Nova. UNC and Duke are as good as Nova and in most years they are going to better if not MUCH better. And I have not even talked about Louisville.
Nova is better than Syracuse. I doubt Syracuse would make it through this Big East with less than 4-5 losses. There are no easy games outside of SH--and even that contest is tougher than it has been in the past. Sure, there may be no Louisville like last year, but there is terrible bottom of Rutgers, SJU, USF, Depaul, and SH. Depaul still isn't good, but they are much better than they've been been the last three years.
I agree with you that the top of the conference isn't exactly murderers row. I liken it to a pitching rotation that has no ace, but three or four #2 guys.
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East might be deepest conference in nation | FOX Sports on MSN http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz (http://t.co/VDbURQd6Nz)
Interesting particularly as Fox has TV rights, I took this with a grain of salt.
Big Ten is the deepest, but I think we could be second. Our league will only get better IMO over next few years as well.
"We" could be...We could also be the 5th or 6th deepest. Whereas the Big 10 and the ACC will NEVER be 5th or 6th even in bad year because they have so many programs (Mich St, Wisconsin, Ohio St, Duke UNC, Syracuse (soon to be Louisville) that you know will be Good/Great every year.
Syracuse is BETTER then any BE school including Nova. UNC and Duke are as good as Nova and in most years they are going to better if not MUCH better. And I have not even talked about Louisville.
I liken it to a pitching rotation that has no ace, but three or four #2 guys.
That's a pretty good analogy
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Villanova is better then Syracuse based on what? A last second win over a 3 loss Kansas team on a desperate 3?
Secondly Syracuse has been a 3, 1, 3, 1, 4 seeding in the last 5 NCAA's. Keep this in mind after a 9-5 start in 2010-11 Villanova lost 6 straight to end the season including 5 straight in the BE and then went 5-13 the next year (that is a stretch of 5-18 in the BE conference). That is AWFUL. Syracuse, UNC, Duke, Louisville WILL NEVER go thru a stretch that bad. NEVER.
My point is not to disparage Nova or Wright my point is Villanova is a program that is very good but not even close to that level even if you concede they are better then Syracuse right now and I don't.
And the A-10 argument is my point, there is NO ONE who puts the A-10 in a top 5 conference. Again you have 12-14 teams and you get 5 bids, that is nice but it is a product of having a lot of teams and look at the seeds. No 1, 2 or 3 seeds.
The BE at 16 teams was not the best conference because it always got the most bids (that was nice) but because it got 1, 2 and 3's consistently. Remember in 2009 they got 7 teams but look at how good they were. 3 no. 1's is still a record. 2 number 3 seeds and 2 no. 6 seeds means the committee felt that the BE had 7 teams among the top 24 (multiply 6 by 4) in the country. Or 5 teams among the top 12 in the country. NEVER happened before.
And this early look at the top 16 teams for the NCAA's has exactly ONE BE school, 3 ACC, 3 Big 10, 3 Big 12, 3 AAC, 2 PAC 12, and 1 SEC school.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20131217/bracket-watch-wisconsin-badgers-ncaa-tournament/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20131217/bracket-watch-wisconsin-badgers-ncaa-tournament/)
The BE is NOT close to being among the top 2 conferences in the country. No way. More importantly what happens when McDermott leaves, is Creighton still going to be solid/decent?
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Who in the BE is better then Florida? Florida has lost twice to Wisconsin on the road and UCONN on the road. Both of those teams are unbeaten and in the case of UCONN they literally lost at the buzzer. And they have not been at full strength all season.
They have beaten Kansas and FSU and they are playing Memphis tonight and they have had their best freshman ineligible and Wilbekin has missed several key games.
Are you telling me Nova would be 9-0 after playing Wisconsin AND UCONN on the road, shorthanded no less?
And everyone believes that Kentucky s probably the best team in that conference anyway not Florida.
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Crazy article;
@EricPrisbell: Marquette spends more per athlete on men's hoops ($270,000 a year) than any school except Duke, writes Michael Hunt: http://t.co/BxRhn1ZSDj (http://t.co/BxRhn1ZSDj)
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Crazy article;
@EricPrisbell: Marquette spends more per athlete on men's hoops ($270,000 a year) than any school except Duke, writes Michael Hunt: http://t.co/BxRhn1ZSDj (http://t.co/BxRhn1ZSDj)
Any guess as to what St. John's spends
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I remember reading an article a few years back on budgets for men's basketball. I was surprised that Marquette was so high. They weren't #2 at the time but they were in the top 10. We were higher than I thought we would be but I think rent on MSG is a big factor. At the time, our coaching budget was less than it is now so we may be even higher on the list than we were back then.
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To me I was a bit surprised by power of "boosters" at Marquette. Nudging that AD out, who was a player in formation of new BE, speaks to their clout I assume.
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Good move;
@Brian_Ewart: This is pretty interesting... http://t.co/1DiYFFKQ3Q (http://t.co/1DiYFFKQ3Q) Big East Conference Announces National Radio Agreement (via @becb_sbn)
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Villanova is better then Syracuse based on what? A last second win over a 3 loss Kansas team on a desperate 3?
Secondly Syracuse has been a 3, 1, 3, 1, 4 seeding in the last 5 NCAA's. Keep this in mind after a 9-5 start in 2010-11 Villanova lost 6 straight to end the season including 5 straight in the BE and then went 5-13 the next year (that is a stretch of 5-18 in the BE conference). That is AWFUL. Syracuse, UNC, Duke, Louisville WILL NEVER go thru a stretch that bad. NEVER.
My point is not to disparage Nova or Wright my point is Villanova is a program that is very good but not even close to that level even if you concede they are better then Syracuse right now and I don't.
And the A-10 argument is my point, there is NO ONE who puts the A-10 in a top 5 conference. Again you have 12-14 teams and you get 5 bids, that is nice but it is a product of having a lot of teams and look at the seeds. No 1, 2 or 3 seeds.
The BE at 16 teams was not the best conference because it always got the most bids (that was nice) but because it got 1, 2 and 3's consistently. Remember in 2009 they got 7 teams but look at how good they were. 3 no. 1's is still a record. 2 number 3 seeds and 2 no. 6 seeds means the committee felt that the BE had 7 teams among the top 24 (multiply 6 by 4) in the country. Or 5 teams among the top 12 in the country. NEVER happened before.
And this early look at the top 16 teams for the NCAA's has exactly ONE BE school, 3 ACC, 3 Big 10, 3 Big 12, 3 AAC, 2 PAC 12, and 1 SEC school.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20131217/bracket-watch-wisconsin-badgers-ncaa-tournament/ (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20131217/bracket-watch-wisconsin-badgers-ncaa-tournament/)
The BE is NOT close to being among the top 2 conferences in the country. No way. More importantly what happens when McDermott leaves, is Creighton still going to be solid/decent?
Settle down. I am not talking "programs" here, I am merely expressing my opinion that Nova is a better TEAM than Syracuse. Last year's Cuse squad would have beaten this year's squad by double-digits.
Nova, right now, looks like a complete team to me. You and I argued over Marquette and Nova earlier in the year. You thought it was criminal for Dickie V to not have them in the top 25 because they were so clearly the best team in the conference. I told you that I thought Nova was.
Nova has no holes. They have a diesel, versatile big man in Pinkston, they have the most improved player in the conference thus far in Bell, and they have a three or four-headed backcourt that can play with anyone. They can shoot the ball and they are unselfish, tough, and smart. Nova plays Syracuse soon so we won't have to wait long to see who is better that day. The game is at the Dome too, so that should be a huge advantage for Cuse.
If you want to compare programs, Nova is not that far from Cuse over the last decade.
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@bigeastconf: It's not just wins and losses, basketball unites players across the globe. @bigeastmbb w/ 16 international players http://t.co/Ok2p50864f (http://t.co/Ok2p50864f)
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Wonder if this photo was taken after Buzz found out the AD he disliked left? Ha
@GoodmanESPN: Wow. This photo must be altered.@bdGlobalSports: . @MarquetteMBB & @TeamCoachBuzz getting wild in Vegas http://t.co/NRUZV0huUI (http://t.co/NRUZV0huUI) @GoodmanESPN
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Looks like Georgetown is getting another stud inside player, Marcus Derrickson. The summary below references his team's win at City of Palms Tourney over Wheeler High School, David Lipscomb's father's squad. Are we still looking at any of those kids? I know Giddens, the big, is being recruited by some elite schools.
@TakeOverBBall: City of Palms: Paul VI 62, Wheeler 46 http://t.co/sGgHlZrPfH[/url
(http://t.co/sGgHlZrPfH)
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Josh Smith looks very good so far in this Kansas game. Looks like he will be a lot to handle for us. Different player than he was a few seasons ago.
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Goes against every bone in my body but I hope G'Town beats Kansas...I really hate Hoya Saxa, but we need to get the BE some more quality wins.
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Goes against every bone in my body but I hope G'Town beats Kansas...I really hate Hoya Saxa, but we need to get the BE some more quality wins.
Kansas is pulling away in the second half.
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GT getting hammered not helpful to BE. Bad showing!
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GT getting hammered not helpful to BE. Bad showing!
I left the house the game was tied at 25
Wow
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Xavier comes from behind to win at Bama. butler also won.
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Xavier comes from behind to win at Bama. butler also won.
Watching Marquette now on ESPNU
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Xavier comes from behind to win at Bama. butler also won.
Watching Marquette now on ESPNU
Marquette needs this game. 5 losses going into conference play is a lot. Plus it would be a quality win.
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Xavier comes from behind to win at Bama. butler also won.
Watching Marquette now on ESPNU
Aren't you supposed to tweet messages like that? :)
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Xavier comes from behind to win at Bama. butler also won.
Watching Marquette now on ESPNU
Marquette needs this game. 5 losses going into conference play is a lot. Plus it would be a quality win.
Marquette heading for defeat. It is a trend I see with a lot of BE schools when they play good teams. Inability to score down the stretch. Inability to execute in the halfcourt when the game goes possession by possession. Cost SJU down the stretch against Syracuse. Georgetown just couldn't throw it in the ocean in the 2nd half against Kansas. Marquette was dreadful against Ohio St last month, scoring just 37 points at home.
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Of all the years for historicly solid BE teams to play like crap, this is the worst time to do it...at this point I think 3 BE teams making it to the tournament would be lucky.
Except for the B1G, it seems the other conferences are not as strong either. I think ACC only has 3 in the top 25 and that is with NC being upset red by Texas.
This should help the BE, but this is still troubling...
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Of all the years for historicly solid BE teams to play like crap, this is the worst time to do it...at this point I think 3 BE teams making it to the tournament would be lucky.
Except for the B1G, it seems the other conferences are not as strong either. I think ACC only has 3 in the top 25 and that is with NC being upset red by Texas.
This should help the BE, but this is still troubling...
Parity
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Creighton beat Cal, Seton Hall beat Eastern Washington & DePaul lost to Illinois St. today
I hate to say this about a mans job, but I dont see how DePaul can stick with Oliver Purnell. Unless he turns it around this season, they appear to be making no progress as a program.
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Creighton beat Cal, Seton Hall beat Eastern Washington & DePaul lost to Illinois St. today
I hate to say this about a mans job, but I dont see how DePaul can stick with Oliver Purnell. Unless he turns it around this season, they appear to be making no progress as a program.
Purnell and Willard have done an awful job if you just look at the body of work. Willard has had some minor success. Purnell is just terrible. His players are soft. They don't play defense. They don't improve. They don't even look like they in game shape physically. DePaul was once a great program. For the sake of Chicago, and the BE, I hope they finally remove him.
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Nice article on Nova & Jay Wright's lessons learned;
@ESPNDanaOneil: A lesson learned brings Villanova back to national prominence http://t.co/Shxm9LGcJZ (http://t.co/Shxm9LGcJZ)
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Creighton beat Cal, Seton Hall beat Eastern Washington & DePaul lost to Illinois St. today
I hate to say this about a mans job, but I dont see how DePaul can stick with Oliver Purnell. Unless he turns it around this season, they appear to be making no progress as a program.
Purnell and Willard have done an awful job if you just look at the body of work. Willard has had some minor success. Purnell is just terrible. His players are soft. They don't play defense. They don't improve. They don't even look like they in game shape physically. DePaul was once a great program. For the sake of Chicago, and the BE, I hope they finally remove him.
It believe he is 0 and 7 in career NCAA appearances.
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Creighton beat Cal, Seton Hall beat Eastern Washington & DePaul lost to Illinois St. today
I hate to say this about a mans job, but I dont see how DePaul can stick with Oliver Purnell. Unless he turns it around this season, they appear to be making no progress as a program.
Purnell and Willard have done an awful job if you just look at the body of work. Willard has had some minor success. Purnell is just terrible. His players are soft. They don't play defense. They don't improve. They don't even look like they in game shape physically. DePaul was once a great program. For the sake of Chicago, and the BE, I hope they finally remove him.
It believe he is 0 and 7 in career NCAA appearances.
What is our NCAA record during the same time frame?
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Creighton beat Cal, Seton Hall beat Eastern Washington & DePaul lost to Illinois St. today
I hate to say this about a mans job, but I dont see how DePaul can stick with Oliver Purnell. Unless he turns it around this season, they appear to be making no progress as a program.
Purnell and Willard have done an awful job if you just look at the body of work. Willard has had some minor success. Purnell is just terrible. His players are soft. They don't play defense. They don't improve. They don't even look like they in game shape physically. DePaul was once a great program. For the sake of Chicago, and the BE, I hope they finally remove him.
It believe he is 0 and 7 in career NCAA appearances.
What is our NCAA record during the same time frame?
Are you asking whats our record since Purnell coached an NCAA game? That's tough because he coached his first in 92/93 and didnt make it back till 99/00.
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This conference is tougher than most people think. It's very tough to sweep anyone, but every team will have to play a home-and-home with nine other teams. How many schools would be able to sweep our top eight teams? That is just brutal...there are no breaks.
SH isn't a cakewalk with Edwin, Sina, and the big guy. DePaul has already beaten a Pac-12 school.
To go just 11-7 in this conference you'll have to sweep two teams and then beat Nova, Gtown, Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, Butler, St. John's, and Butler once (minus one if you are one of the teams listed).
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So now that the Cuse game is out of the way, which game are you guys looking forward to the most?
home against Villanova?
I think the Georgetown game will still carry sway. Hopefully by the time we play them and Marquette both teams are back in the top 25
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So now that the Cuse game is out of the way, which game are you guys looking forward to the most?
home against Villanova?
I think the Georgetown game will still carry sway. Hopefully by the time we play them and Marquette both teams are back in the top 25
Nova. Essential to go 2 and I in first three BE games, turn some heads, gain confidence and start league play with a bang.
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This conference is tougher than most people think. It's very tough to sweep anyone, but every team will have to play a home-and-home with nine other teams. How many schools would be able to sweep our top eight teams? That is just brutal...there are no breaks.
SH isn't a cakewalk with Edwin, Sina, and the big guy. DePaul has already beaten a Pac-12 school.
To go just 11-7 in this conference you'll have to sweep two teams and then beat Nova, Gtown, Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, Butler, St. John's, and Butler once (minus one if you are one of the teams listed).
It is not that tough playing teams twice. Take the old BE. Would you rather play DePaul twice or play DePaul once and Louisville once?
Louisville, Syracuse, Ohio St, Wisconsin, Michigan St and Arizona among others would win 14 games MINIMUM in this BE if you say put them in and take out a Xavier or Butler.
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Hard to argue with this;
"2. Big East teams will struggle to gain resume-lifting wins in league play: Other than Villanova, no one in the Big East has set themselves apart in nonconference games. Creighton has wins over California and Arizona State and needs those teams to have quality years in the Pac-12 to help its NCAA chances. Xavier has beaten Tennessee, Cincinnati and Alabama but those teams are still far from proven commodities. Georgetown has a win over VCU and gets a crack at Michigan State in February, but right now the Hoyas are just another team trying to build a resume.
Everyone knew that the new Big East wasn't going to be the same, but there's a new problem: Schools in the new Big East without quality nonconference wins may only get legitimate resume-building chances in their two games vs. Villanova. The Wildcats beat Louisville and Syracuse in the same week last season, helping them reach the NCAA Tournament. Within the new league, those chances won't exist anymore, nor will there be opportunities to play household names like Pitt or Notre Dame. And aside from losing power teams, this still isn't the conference we thought it would be before the season. Providence was supposed to be a borderline NCAA team but the Friars lost point guard Kris Dunn for the season (shoulder) and touted freshman Brandon Austin has been suspended for the rest of the season. Marquette also has struggled early after being cast as one of the league's preseason favorites."
@JonRothstein: DeAndre Kane, Branden Dawson's terrific start, + 3 story lines to follow moving forward. The Triple Threat @CBSSports http://t.co/oDOdQCjyoY (http://t.co/oDOdQCjyoY)
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Because we lost to Penn.St. we now might have to go 12@6 in the new and less talented BE. For those who thought losing to State not so bad, wrong. We now must schedule better and slip up less OOC.
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We can beat Depaul, Seton Hall, Providence twice and maybe one other and split the rest....that would be 12-6 or better.....Xavier? or Butler?........split w Georgetown, Marquette (maybe win twice) Creighton? Villie?....gonna be fun and interesting.....we need Jordan.....
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Because we lost to Penn.St. we now might have to go 12@6 in the new and less talented BE. For those who thought losing to State not so bad, wrong. We now must schedule better and slip up less OOC.
Penn St is not a killer. PSU will be decent. Not great but decent. I agree should have won the game but not a killer loss.
I think SJU and a few others will step up in BE play. But again this notion that the BE is among the top 2 or even 3 conferences right now is not being serious. It is not even close right now.
I will say it again. This assertion seems to be born of the excitement of the new conference. When the Catholic 7 bolted to form the "new" BE we applauded. Rightfully so. But they needed to do that to survive but some of you are confusing this survival move with re-creating a monster conference. Just because they took the BE name does not mean they automatically inherit the recent success the BE has had on the court. UCONN, Syracuse, Louisville, Cincy, Pitt, ND cannot just be replaced with Butler and Xavier and Creighton and BAM everything is the same.
Look at Iowa St. They are unbeaten, beaten BYU, Michigan and Iowa. Why is any BE team better then Iowa St right now? If any are?
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Here is the current BE list in terms of RPI. As noted Nova is clearly the best at #8. Butler (who I think is the surprise of the BE so far) is next at 31.
Creighton, SJU, Georgetown, Xavier and Providence are in a group between 42 and 87. Right in the decent range. Half the league in the so so/decent range. And then 30% of the league 100 and below; Marquette, DePaul and SHU. I fully expect Marquette to rebound and probably Butler to fall.
But again none of those numbers screams DOMINANT conference.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html (http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_bige_Men.html)
And Villanova has been clearly the best BE team, we all agree. But look closer at their numbers. They rank 170th in FG percentage offense, shooting .449. That is the worst of any top 10 team. By contrast Louisville is 70th, UCONN is 53rd and Syracuse is 76th.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/222/villanova-wildcats (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/222/villanova-wildcats)
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Serious. Question- how did they get so good ? We shouldn't have lost them last year . Do they have any new players?
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Serious. Question- how did they get so good ? We shouldn't have lost them last year . Do they have any new players?
Their guards are playing better than anyone could have imagined. Their frontcourt, to me, is extremely weak.
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Just for comparison same, assuming Kentucky loses to lville this weekend, how many conference names will they need for a tourny bid. They would be 9-4 with no quality wins and losing only to ranked teams. They only hAve 3 more games in conference Against ranked teams and 2 if those are against a rising Florida.
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Serious. Question- how did they get so good ? We shouldn't have lost them last year . Do they have any new players?
Their guards are playing better than anyone could have imagined. Their frontcourt, to me, is extremely weak.
They've shot it well so far this year. Nearly 60% of their points come from the line or from the 3. They get to the line a lot (rule "changes" probably benefit them) and attempt the 7th most 3s per possession in the country.
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Serious. Question- how did they get so good ? We shouldn't have lost them last year . Do they have any new players?
Their guards are playing better than anyone could have imagined. Their frontcourt, to me, is extremely weak.
They've shot it well so far this year. Nearly 60% of their points come from the line or from the 3. They get to the line a lot (rule "changes" probably benefit them) and attempt the 7th most 3s per possession in the country.
Even before rule changes, they drew a ton of fouls. The addition of transfer Ennis and integration of two solid freshmen has helped. Their inside line is indeed thin. Ironically "Arciannoying" has struggled a bit. I think he will be fine, but refs catching up to his flopping act and competition at guard position may have effected his production.
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Can't imagine many teams have more talent at guard then d- lo and whoever is playing next to him.
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This conference is tougher than most people think. It's very tough to sweep anyone, but every team will have to play a home-and-home with nine other teams. How many schools would be able to sweep our top eight teams? That is just brutal...there are no breaks.
SH isn't a cakewalk with Edwin, Sina, and the big guy. DePaul has already beaten a Pac-12 school.
To go just 11-7 in this conference you'll have to sweep two teams and then beat Nova, Gtown, Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, Butler, St. John's, and Butler once (minus one if you are one of the teams listed).
It is not that tough playing teams twice. Take the old BE. Would you rather play DePaul twice or play DePaul once and Louisville once?
Louisville, Syracuse, Ohio St, Wisconsin, Michigan St and Arizona among others would win 14 games MINIMUM in this BE if you say put them in and take out a Xavier or Butler.
You also said it was criminal for Marquette to be left out of the top 25. Your projection powers have been revoked for the remainder of the year. Seriously, though, I can't really argue with the five teams you listed winning 14 games if subbed out for Butler of Xavier. Top 10 teams are going to win 14+ games in any conference. I am really looking at it from that second tier of very good teams down...say top 15-20 and worse. Sweeping teams is not an easy task. Depaul and SH are clearly a few notches lower than anyone else in the conference...but 1-8 this is a tough, tough conference night in and night out.
From a St. John's perspective, (this year) I would rather us play in the old Big East. It gives us a chance to pickup some wins against lower teams like USF, RU, SH, Depaul (usually a gift home-and-home in there for us as well) and also the chance to build a great RPI/SOS and chance to get a defining win or two at home against a Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, etc.
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People must still keep in perspective that our league is only a 10 team league. If we are getting "only" 4 teams into the dance, we are still getting 40% of our conference members into the dance. Even one more, and that is half our conference making it. It's not as atrocious as some are making it out to be. What we need is Nova to keep winning and have a few teams separate within our conference. I'm hoping we will be one of them. If we do that, the ranking will follow as well, even though our league didn't get as many big OOC wins as we would have liked.
At this point, our league hasn't performed poorly OOC. We've actually performed relatively well, but failed to seal the deal on a few big games. All we can worry about is SJU at this point and finishing amongst the top 3 or 4 and maybe even winning our league which is certainly a possibility.
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People must still keep in perspective that our league is only a 10 team league. If we are getting "only" 4 teams into the dance, we are still getting 40% of our conference members into the dance. Even one more, and that is half our conference making it. It's not as atrocious as some are making it out to be. What we need is Nova to keep winning and have a few teams separate within our conference. I'm hoping we will be one of them. If we do that, the ranking will follow as well, even though our league didn't get as many big OOC wins as we would have liked.
At this point, our league hasn't performed poorly OOC. We've actually performed relatively well, but failed to seal the deal on a few big games. All we can worry about is SJU at this point and finishing amongst the top 3 or 4 and maybe even winning our league which is certainly a possibility.
+1. 4 teams making the tourny in a 10 team league is very good.
If one other team was top 20, say Georgetown, Marquette, or us; there wouldn't even be a debate about whether the BE was strong or not. I think by February the league will have 3 ranked teams and it will be a moot point.
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@MarquetteMBB: #mubb guard Duane Wilson to redshirt in 2013-14. Freshman yet to play for MU after preseason leg injury.
Smart move for promising player IMO.
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Paultzman , do u know anything about the RENS program overall and/or its relationship w St. John's? Thanks
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[/quote]Paultzman , do u know anything about the RENS program overall and/or its relationship w St. John's? Thanks
Artie Cox, a long time Christ the King assistant coach, has been a driving force for years with RENs. Obviously you see many CTK guys on the roster. I don't know what the SJU relationship is with them.
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Thanks...is it seen as a good program?
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Thanks...is it seen as a good program?
I would say so, but Team Scan appears to be the hot local team now. Frankly, I often saw Artie coach years ago when a family member played for Riverside against his young squads. I admired his dedication back then, but have not seen them often in recent years. Others like Happy, Kob or Chilleb can better judge that.
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Teague on Seton Hall is having a monster game and just took a big fall under the basket and now they're bringing a stretcher out for him.
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Teague on Seton Hall is having a monster game and just took a big fall under the basket and now they're bringing a stretcher out for him.
Is he OK?
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Teague on Seton Hall is having a monster game and just took a big fall under the basket and now they're bringing a stretcher out for him.
Is he OK?
He was moving his arms and legs which is a good sign i guess. They stretchered him off I'm sure there will be an update tonight. That would be a real tough loss for them to overcome right before Big East play if he has to miss games.
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Teague on Seton Hall is having a monster game and just took a big fall under the basket and now they're bringing a stretcher out for him.
Is he OK?
He was moving his arms and legs which is a good sign i guess. They stretchered him off I'm sure there will be an update tonight. That would be a real tough loss for them to overcome right before Big East play if he has to miss games.
Yeah but much like with Jordan and his mom I can't think about basketball when something like that happens. Just hope to God he is OK.
I am not in front of a TV right now.
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Update is that his neck is OK and he''s being tested for a concussion.
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Nice buzzer beater win for DePaul on the road at Northwestern.
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@HolyLandofHoops: Several really good #BIGEAST games today: 10-2 Wake at 9-3 Xavier; 10-3 Providence at 10-1 UMass; #8 Villanova at #2 Syracuse.
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This conference is tougher than most people think. It's very tough to sweep anyone, but every team will have to play a home-and-home with fine other teams. How many schools would be able to sweep our top eight teams? That is just brutal...there are no breaks.
SH isn't a cakewalk with Edwin, Sina, and the big guy. DePaul has already beaten a Pac-12 school.
To go just 11-7 in this conference you'll have to sweep two teams and then beat Nova, Gtown, Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, Butler, St. John's, and Butler once (minus one if you are one of the teams listed).
It is not that tough playing teams twice. Take the old BE. Would you rather play DePaul twice or play DePaul once and Louisville once?
Louisville, Syracuse, Ohio St, Wisconsin, Michigan St and Arizona among others would win 14 games MINIMUM in this BE if you say put them in and take out a Xavier or Butler.
You also said it was criminal for Marquette to be left out of the top 25. Your projection powers have been revoked for the remainder of the year. Seriously, though, I can't really argue with the five teams you listed winning 14 games if subbed out for Butler of Xavier. Top 10 teams are going to win 14+ games in any conference. I am really looking at it from that second tier of very good teams down...say top 15-20 and worse. Sweeping teams is not an easy task. Depaul and SH are clearly a few notches lower than anyone else in the conference...but 1-8 this is a tough, tough conference night in and night out.
From a St. John's perspective, (this year) I would rather us play in the old Big East. It gives us a chance to pickup some wins against lower teams like USF, RU, SH, Depaul (usually a gift home-and-home in there for us as well) and also the chance to build a great RPI/SOS and chance to get a defining win or two at home against a Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse, etc.
I did not say it was criminal I said it must have been an oversight by Vitals who later confirmed based on pre-season consensus that Marquette was the best team in the BE. Just like it was consensus by Vitals and everyone that Kentucky was a top 5 team. If you are going to lie at least be original about it.
The rest of your home and home stuff is pure drivel written to justify an unjustifiable post.
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Nova pounding Cuse early 20-5. Cuse calls time out. Hope they keep rolling.
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Forget Tyler Ennis hitting any freshman walls. Super PG!
@jeffborzello: Tyler Ennis' season-high for turnovers in a game is two. That's tremendous for a frosh PG who plays 32 mins per game.
@AdamZagoria: Halftime: No. 2 Syracuse 38, No. 8 Villanova 34. Fair & Cooney 11 apiece, Ennis w/ 9. Bell w/ 11 for Nova.
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Forget Tyler Ennis hitting any freshman walls. Super PG!
@jeffborzello: Tyler Ennis' season-high for turnovers in a game is two. That's tremendous for a frosh PG who plays 32 mins per game.
@AdamZagoria: Halftime: No. 2 Syracuse 38, No. 8 Villanova 34. Fair & Cooney 11 apiece, Ennis w/ 9. Bell w/ 11 for Nova.
Villanova led 25-7 and lost by 16. A 34 point swing, 71-37 Cuse. Someone said Nova was better then Cuse on this board, no???? LOL!!!
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We lost by 5,they lost by 16. We're better than Nova!
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Wonder what his entourage thinks now?
@IAmDPick: Marquette alum Vander Blue who went to training camp with 76ers, registers back-to-back DNPs for Maccabi Rishon, will soon be released.
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I know this year's draft is a lot better, but you never know how Blue could have improved his game with another year at Marquette. I hope our underclassmen and the people who have their ear consider this and many other examples (and yes I know there are some that have gone the other way).
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Forget Tyler Ennis hitting any freshman walls. Super PG!
@jeffborzello: Tyler Ennis' season-high for turnovers in a game is two. That's tremendous for a frosh PG who plays 32 mins per game.
@AdamZagoria: Halftime: No. 2 Syracuse 38, No. 8 Villanova 34. Fair & Cooney 11 apiece, Ennis w/ 9. Bell w/ 11 for Nova.
Villanova led 25-7 and lost by 16. A 34 point swing, 71-37 Cuse. Someone said Nova was better then Cuse on this board, no???? LOL!!!
Point Fordham96 :)
I turned the game off with like seven minutes to play and it was still within like five or six. The game was in Syracuse, though, and the Dome(over 28,000 fans for this one) might be the biggest home court advantage in all of college basketball. Remember, Xavier beat Tennessee at home this year by five and then lost on a neutral court to the same Tennessee team by FIFTEEN a week later. And last year, Nova lost at Cuse by 9 and then beat them at home two weeks later.
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Btw, Bryce Cotton is so impressive. He played 45 minutes in OT loss to UMass & plays major minutes on depleted team. He is too small for NBA, but is the kind of tough, clutch, talented college player to enjoy. To think he almost left Providence.
Stainbrook and Garrett Earn Men's Basketball Weekly Honors
Billy Garrett's game-winning bucket highlights week of play.
Matt Stainbrook
Dec. 30, 2013
BIG EAST PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Matt Stainbrook, C, Xavier
Stainbrook registered game highs of 21 points and 10 rebounds in a 68-53 win against Wake Forest in the Musketeers’ only game of the week. He shot 9-of-12 from the floor. For the season, Stainbrook is averaging 11.2 points and 8.5 rebounds. His rebound average ranks third in the BIG EAST.
BIG EAST ROOKIE OF THE WEEK
Billy Garrett, Jr., G, DePaul
Garrett, Jr. hit a short jumper as time expired to give the Blue Demons a 57-56 victory at Northwestern. For the game, he scored nine points, dished four assists and blocked two shots.
BIG EAST HONOR ROLL
Khyle Marshall, F, Butler
Scored a game-high 21 points in a 66-48 win against NJIT. Shot 8-of-10 from the floor and grabbed five rebounds.
Doug McDermott, F, Creighton
Had 24 points, six rebounds and four assists in a 90-58 win against Chicago State.
Bryce Cotton, G, Providence
Had a game-high 24 points, five rebounds and five assists in a 69-67 overtime loss at Massachusetts.
Eugene Teague, F, Seton Hall
Scored 18 points on 7-of-8 shooting and grabbed 11 rebounds in a 90-58 win over Lafayette.
James Bell, G, Villanova
Posted a game-high 25 points, including six 3-pointers, in a 78-62 loss at No. 2/2 Syracuse.
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Bell is the most improved player in the conference. Incredible.
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While upset by our loss, thought "opening" night on Fox was a great start for the new league. New members bring exciting college venues for college Bball.
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@AndrewGruman: Buzz on Davante Gardner: "He doesn't work hard enough to be consistent. I'm not mad at him. I tell him that all the time." #mubb
@AndrewGruman: Buzz on Davante: "I wouldn't tell you that without telling him that. He's disappointed in himself. The only way to break out of that is work
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@EyeOnCBB: ICYMI, a Big East Conference reset http://t.co/GRUfgq83mv (http://t.co/GRUfgq83mv)
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Seton hall has the 330th worst sos? Nice of them to drag down the league.
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Guard U strikes again with another heady, smart four star player;
@TheRecruitScoop: BREAKING: 2015 Salesianum (DE) guard Donte Divincenzo has committed to Villanova.
@TheRecruitScoop: Villanova continues to add ideal system players to their program. Donte Divincenzo will fill a role similar to that of Ryan Arcidiacono.
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Guard U strikes again with another heady, smart four star player;
@TheRecruitScoop: BREAKING: 2015 Salesianum (DE) guard Donte Divincenzo has committed to Villanova.
@TheRecruitScoop: Villanova continues to add ideal system players to their program. Donte Divincenzo will fill a role similar to that of Ryan Arcidiacono.
And 4 year player.
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The BE is such a weak conference this season.
It will be a 3 bid league, probably the same as A-10. (Nova, Xavier, Creighton; with G-town on the outer bubble)
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The BE is such a weak conference this season.
It will be a 3 bid league, probably the same as A-10. (Nova, Xavier, Creighton; with G-town on the outter bubble)
And yet it has the 2nd most Top 100 players of any conference next year.
Who'd a thunk it?
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I'll take the over. I say 5 BE teams get into the NCAA.
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@CBTonNBC: Former Indiana center Luke Fischer transferring to Marquette http://t.co/73475bTROR (http://t.co/73475bTROR)
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@Kevin_Farrahar: Nova a Daunting Task - http://t.co/H43hgMlhbr (http://t.co/H43hgMlhbr) #pcbb
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@GaryParrishCBS: Creighton has won seven straight by double-digits. So the Bluejays are back in the Top 25 (and one). -- http://t.co/g19F4tE2zh (http://t.co/g19F4tE2zh)
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@KevinMcNamara33: Worst PC defensive effort in years or Villanova can't miss. Take your pick but Wildcats up 26-8.
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@GaryParrishCBS: Creighton star @dougmcd3 is the @CBSSports National College Basketball Player of the Week. Story: http://t.co/yBJxH96RoO (http://t.co/yBJxH96RoO)
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This group of non blue chip (exception of McD Pinkston) four year type guys are impressive;
@becb_sbn: AP Top 25: Villanova jumps three spots to No. 8, Pinkston named Big 5 Player of the Week http://t.co/febC8SQAR5 (http://t.co/febC8SQAR5)
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@BigEastDaily: Forgrave: Big East deep now, may be deeper in March http://t.co/J9Nkd5u9TY (http://t.co/J9Nkd5u9TY)
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Key player for Creighton;
@GoodmanESPN: Bad news for Creighton -- as Grant Gibbs being helped to the locker room just before halftime with leg injury.
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Key player for Creighton;
@GoodmanESPN: Bad news for Creighton -- as Grant Gibbs being helped to the locker room just before halftime with leg injury.
It does suck for them but they have two other PG's in Chatman and Brooks. Crazy how usually they had at least 2 on the floor among the 3 at all times.
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@YahooDagger: Injuries to Doug McDermott, Grant Gibbs mar Creighton’s victory over DePaul http://t.co/Sg0cVf6B6U (http://t.co/Sg0cVf6B6U)
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@GoodmanESPN: Creighton's Grant Gibbs told ESPN he has Dislocated knee cap. No torn ACL or MCL. Out 4-6 weeks.
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@JonRothstein: Seton Hall shorthanded tonight vs. Villanova. Pirates will be without both Eugene Teague (concussion) + Fuquan Edwin (knee).
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@gene_wang: #Hoyas C Joshua Smith did not make trip to Providence, dealing with academic issue.
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@DalyDoseOfHoops: Halftime in Newark: Seton Hall really hanging with No. 8 Villanova, trailing 38-32 at the break. Stats to come. #shbb
GT down by 5 to PC at half
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@Hoyas247: The #Hoyas drop their first Big East game of their season and lose their first game to Providence since 2005 by the score of 70-52.
And
SH loses to Nova by 16
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DePaul just beat Butler in Butler. Didn't see that one coming
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So Butler and STJ only winless teams
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Could this guy be done?
@CasualHoya: Georgetown center Josh Smith's name is conspicuously missing from the game preview report released by the school: http://t.co/EZUeDQcTp6 (http://t.co/EZUeDQcTp6)
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@ButlerVictory: Big East kenpom ratings: 4 Nova, 8 Creighton, 31 Xavier, 41 G'Town, 55 Marquette, 64 SJ, 67 Providence, 82 Butler, 117 SH, 132 DePaul.
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@TylerRickyTynes: Report: The Big East announces two-year deal with New York Life for all 22 conference championships http://t.co/Qf8gUSLVfl (http://t.co/Qf8gUSLVfl)
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@BenStandig: JT3 said Josh Smith will not travel to Xavier for Wednesday's game. Missed last two games due to academic issues. #hoyas
With our luck he will return on 2/16 to help ward off our "February Surge".
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@BenStandig: JT3 said Josh Smith will not travel to Xavier for Wednesday's game. Missed last two games due to academic issues. #hoyas
With our luck he will return on 2/16 to help ward off our "February Surge".
This seems just like what happened with their kid last year. Whittington?
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@BenStandig: JT3 said Josh Smith will not travel to Xavier for Wednesday's game. Missed last two games due to academic issues. #hoyas
With our luck he will return on 2/16 to help ward off our "February Surge".
This seems just like what happened with their kid last year. Whittington?
Also, Sutherland of Cuse returned from suspension in time to torch us.
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This is how bad it has gotten....commentators on SHU vs. GT game said that if SHU can win (they are ahead), they have some winnable games coming up....sad but true
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Hope this nugget is not tweeted by mission control as an indication of progress;
@JohnGasaway: At the moment Georgetown's offense ranks No. 10 in Big East play, scoring 0.96 points per trip. Yes, worse than St. John's.
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This is how bad it has gotten....commentators on SHU vs. GT game said that if SHU can win (they are ahead), they have some winnable games coming up....sad but true
And wait till Willard has some real talent coming in? good night St. John's
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Butler finally wins one over M'Q at home in OT.
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In the basement
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Providence playing well again...Tough team...Cotton reminds me of Hardy...great offensive player and a real leader on the court
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providence just crushing creighton. they could have been really good if the suspensions and injuries did not happen
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Butler finally wins one over M'Q at home in OT.
Butler is solid team that got off to a rough start in conference play. I think they will be a certain top 20 team next season when Roosevelt Jones returns and their young guys get an extra year under their belts.
Much like us, they have had a very tough schedule to start conference play: Nova, @Xavier, Depaul, Georgetown, and @Creighton.
There are no easy wins in this conference, man. SH and Depaul are better than anyone expected. It says a lot about the strength of a conference when 3/4 of your bottom teams are Marquette, Butler, and St. John's.
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@AdamZagoria: Bryce Cotton of Providence is the Big East Player of the Week and Billy Garrett Jr. Of DePaul is ROW
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@NJHoopsHaven: Just saw the latest Top 25. Villanova is up to 4th. Creighton is out (26th). UConn 27th.
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Butler finally wins one over M'Q at home in OT.
Butler is solid team that got off to a rough start in conference play. I think they will be a certain top 20 team next season when Roosevelt Jones returns and their young guys get an extra year under their belts.
Much like us, they have had a very tough schedule to start conference play: Nova, @Xavier, Depaul, Georgetown, and @Creighton.
There are no easy wins in this conference, man. SH and Depaul are better than anyone expected. It says a lot about the strength of a conference when 3/4 of your bottom teams are Marquette, Butler, and St. John's.
I haven't seen Butler play much, if at all, yet; what do you think of the new guy Brandon Miller?
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Butler finally wins one over M'Q at home in OT.
Butler is solid team that got off to a rough start in conference play. I think they will be a certain top 20 team next season when Roosevelt Jones returns and their young guys get an extra year under their belts.
Much like us, they have had a very tough schedule to start conference play: Nova, @Xavier, Depaul, Georgetown, and @Creighton.
There are no easy wins in this conference, man. SH and Depaul are better than anyone expected. It says a lot about the strength of a conference when 3/4 of your bottom teams are Marquette, Butler, and St. John's.
I haven't seen Butler play much, if at all, yet; what do you think of the new guy Brandon Miller?
They got off to a good start but I've seen a few comments lately about he needs to firm up his X's and O's. He's real young though so that's expected.
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Butler finally wins one over M'Q at home in OT.
Butler is solid team that got off to a rough start in conference play. I think they will be a certain top 20 team next season when Roosevelt Jones returns and their young guys get an extra year under their belts.
Much like us, they have had a very tough schedule to start conference play: Nova, @Xavier, Depaul, Georgetown, and @Creighton.
There are no easy wins in this conference, man. SH and Depaul are better than anyone expected. It says a lot about the strength of a conference when 3/4 of your bottom teams are Marquette, Butler, and St. John's.
I haven't seen Butler play much, if at all, yet; what do you think of the new guy Brandon Miller?
You can never fully replace a guy like Brad Stevens. Miller is a very solid, young coach with deep ties to the program and enjoyed great success as a player at Butler. He will be fine. Starting 1-5 I conference will always make fans question some aspects, but the truth is this group has played a very tough schedule and has lost more close games than just about anyone.
It's three most talents players are a son, frosh, and a junior sitting out the year due to injury.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
The truth hurts sometimes.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
I agree. I have no doubt he is right, but that just uncalled for. Villanova is #4 in the country, and it is very plausible that they can overcome a deficit like that at home--especially one created by the three-ball. Live by the 3, die by the 3.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
I agree. I have no doubt he is right, but that just uncalled for. Villanova is #4 in the country, and it is very plausible that they can overcome a deficit like that at home--especially one created by the three-ball. Live by the 3, die by the 3.
Kind of interesting we have been more effective from 3pt line over last 6 games and we are 1-5.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
I agree. I have no doubt he is right, but that just uncalled for. Villanova is #4 in the country, and it is very plausible that they can overcome a deficit like that at home--especially one created by the three-ball. Live by the 3, die by the 3.
People would piss and moan that Lenn Robbins would never say anything bad. Now we have a reporter who isn't afraid to take the coach or admin to task. And we complain.
So is the life of St. John's fans.
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Good news is the Nova players are keeping their chin up. Zach won't have to ask Jay Wright about any bad body language.
Also impressed that the Nova fans are still there. I'd be long gone down by 40.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
I agree. I have no doubt he is right, but that just uncalled for. Villanova is #4 in the country, and it is very plausible that they can overcome a deficit like that at home--especially one created by the three-ball. Live by the 3, die by the 3.
I just find it funny that this clown constantly attacks the SJU fan base and adds negative commentary in his stories about the team/players (which is fine) but when it comes to asking Lavin serious questions that the fans want answers to his courage evaporates. He brings absolutely nothing to the table
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
I agree. I have no doubt he is right, but that just uncalled for. Villanova is #4 in the country, and it is very plausible that they can overcome a deficit like that at home--especially one created by the three-ball. Live by the 3, die by the 3.
People would piss and moan that Lenn Robbins would never say anything bad. Now we have a reporter who isn't afraid to take the coach or admin to task. And we complain.
So is the life of St. John's fans.
I don't mind that he says negative things about the team, in fact I think it's good. But why is he talking about our fan base when he's covering the villanova Creighton game?
He may take the staff and administration to task in his stories but has he asked Lavin any questions that we actually want answers to? I haven't seen any. He just lobs softballs at him, listens to Lavin talk in circles and prints it instead of trying to get a real answer out of him
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
I agree. I have no doubt he is right, but that just uncalled for. Villanova is #4 in the country, and it is very plausible that they can overcome a deficit like that at home--especially one created by the three-ball. Live by the 3, die by the 3.
People would piss and moan that Lenn Robbins would never say anything bad. Now we have a reporter who isn't afraid to take the coach or admin to task. And we complain.
So is the life of St. John's fans.
I don't mind that he says negative things about the team, in fact I think it's good. But why is he talking about our fan base when he's covering the villanova Creighton game?
He may take the staff and administration to task in his stories but has he asked Lavin any questions that we actually want answers to? I haven't seen any. He just lobs softballs at him, listens to Lavin talk in circles and prints it instead of trying to get a real answer out of him
Well he's our beat writer, and our fans follow him. And Nova is in the same conference as us so he went to Philly to cover a premier matchup for our conference. It's not like he's at an Oklahoma/Kansas State game.
What questions do you want him to ask? Might as well post them here because everyone reads the site. Maybe they have been asked. I mean unless you are in the press conferences. I'm not but we don't know. More questions might be asked than what makes it to print. Also you know how Lavin answers. He can babble on for 10 minutes without answering what was asked and that means ask the questions you have to ask before time runs out.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova fans are louder down 22 than St. John's fans have been all year.
He's probably right but Brazille seems to go out of his way to attack our fan base. He's a real piece of you know what for that and a few other things he's done.
Got to hope Creighton doesn't open up a 28 point first half lead against us. If that happens I don't think we have the fight needed to cut it 13 by halftime like nova did
I agree. I have no doubt he is right, but that just uncalled for. Villanova is #4 in the country, and it is very plausible that they can overcome a deficit like that at home--especially one created by the three-ball. Live by the 3, die by the 3.
People would piss and moan that Lenn Robbins would never say anything bad. Now we have a reporter who isn't afraid to take the coach or admin to task. And we complain.
So is the life of St. John's fans.
I don't mind that he says negative things about the team, in fact I think it's good. But why is he talking about our fan base when he's covering the villanova Creighton game?
He may take the staff and administration to task in his stories but has he asked Lavin any questions that we actually want answers to? I haven't seen any. He just lobs softballs at him, listens to Lavin talk in circles and prints it instead of trying to get a real answer out of him
Well he's our beat writer, and our fans follow him. And Nova is in the same conference as us so he went to Philly to cover a premier matchup for our conference. It's not like he's at an Oklahoma/Kansas State game.
What questions do you want him to ask? Might as well post them here because everyone reads the site. Maybe they have been asked. I mean unless you are in the press conferences. I'm not but we don't know. More questions might be asked than what makes it to print. Also you know how Lavin answers. He can babble on for 10 minutes without answering what was asked and that means ask the questions you have to ask before time runs out.
I admit that I don't know every question that's asked in the press conferences but I have yet to see any quotes in which Lavin attempts to answer a question along the lines of "at what point does all this hyperbole and talk of progress have to turn into actual wins?" Also, maybe guys like Brazilller may not really notice but I haven't heard any Lavin explanations on specific crunch time lineup decisions. The fact that Lavin can still give 10 minute answers where he just talks in circles and can get away with it tells me they aren't pressing him hard enough. Braziller actually has a little leverage when it comes to asking tough questions that might ruffle some feathers because St John's needs as much major media attention as possible.
I mainly take issue with the fact that he seems to talk a big game in his articles but doesn't actually provide anything of value. Maybe that's just me though
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The whole SJU team- players AND coaches- should be locked in a room with water and vitamins and be forced to watch this game (Creighton-Nova) on a loop for about four days straight.
Even if you take away the once in a season three point shooting, the ball movement, the constant looking for the open man, the defense and rebounding that comes from force of will will rather than athletic ability...its freakin beautiful A pleasure to watch. Once Creighton gets into their offense, you almost never see anyone dribble more than twice...the ball just moves, side to side, in and out. Just as a fan of good basketball, I cant wait to see them at MSG.
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Quite a contrast to our "freelance crap";
"Is this the best this Creighton team will ever play? Yes -- but that is no more an insult than saying “Smells Like Teen Spirit” was Nirvana’s best song. For three years, Creighton has been working toward an offensive ideal, a perfect attack -- every screen a productive one, every flare crisp, every pass on point, every shot in rhythm. Most teams never get there. The few that do rarely last more than a few minutes."
Entire article;
@ESPNAndyKatz: 'Incredible' Creighton puts it all together http://t.co/mK3Vp4wt5A (http://t.co/mK3Vp4wt5A)
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Quite a contrast to our "freelance crap";
"Is this the best this Creighton team will ever play? Yes -- but that is no more an insult than saying “Smells Like Teen Spirit” was Nirvana’s best song. For three years, Creighton has been working toward an offensive ideal, a perfect attack -- every screen a productive one, every flare crisp, every pass on point, every shot in rhythm. Most teams never get there. The few that do rarely last more than a few minutes."
Entire article;
@ESPNAndyKatz: 'Incredible' Creighton puts it all together http://t.co/mK3Vp4wt5A (http://t.co/mK3Vp4wt5A)
And they did that all without Grant Gibbs
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I was one who definitely looked at Creighton and said "wait until they have to play a big time schedule", blah, blah, blah. Mea Culpa.
I echo what the kid from the ESPN article said...that was one of the most fundamentally sound beatdowns I have ever seen. Very, very impressive.
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Creighton is gonna tie us to a tree and make us squeal like a piggy. Lol!
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Creighton is gonna tie us to a tree and make us squeal like a piggy. Lol!
Creighton is gonna tie us to a tree and make us squeal like a piggy. Lol!
Ned Beatty is a huge Creighton fan! Lol
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So we all went to the movies in the early 70s
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@KevinMcNamara33: Providence keeps rising in Big East with 4th win in a row, tops Butler 65-56.
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School cafeteria better stock up! Another wasted opportunity;
@BenStandig: JT3 says Josh Smith is out for the season. #hoyas
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School cafeteria better stock up! Another wasted opportunity;
@BenStandig: JT3 says Josh Smith is out for the season. #hoyas
I'm sure he'll make a surprise return when they play us again
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School cafeteria better stock up! Another wasted opportunity;
@BenStandig: JT3 says Josh Smith is out for the season. #hoyas
I'm sure he'll make a surprise return when they play us again
School cafeteria better stock up! Another wasted opportunity;
@BenStandig: JT3 says Josh Smith is out for the season. #hoyas
I'm sure he'll make a surprise return when they play us again
School cafeteria better stock up! Another wasted opportunity;
@BenStandig: JT3 says Josh Smith is out for the season. #hoyas
I'm sure he'll make a surprise return when they play us again
Definitely not happening this year. I personally think he is done at GT.
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@JonRothstein: DePaul has suspended Cleveland Melvin for today's game at Seton Hall for a violation of team rules, Oliver Purnell told @CBSSports...
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So we all went to the movies in the early 70s
My wife will never forgive me for making her watch THAT MOVIE! lol
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http://msn.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/new-big-east-builds-foundation-with-solid-teams-012714 (http://msn.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/new-big-east-builds-foundation-with-solid-teams-012714)
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@TylerRickyTynes: Creighton's Ethan Wragge was named the Big East POW after a big win over Villanova and avg 19.2 points this week and 60% from deep
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Decently recruited big man;
@slrussell: Freshman Jalen Reynolds has suspended indefinitely from #Xavier's basketball team, per coach Chris Mack.
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@BIGEASTMBB: MBB Weekly Awards: McDermott Named #BIGEAST Player of the Week, @DePaulAthletics Curington picks up Rookie honor http://t.co/Tx2G4yhS0O (http://t.co/Tx2G4yhS0O)
D'Lo also honored.
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http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/college/content/20140202-kevin-mcnamara-a-10-big-east-teams-hurting-each-other.ece (http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/college/content/20140202-kevin-mcnamara-a-10-big-east-teams-hurting-each-other.ece)
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In AP poll; Nova #6 & Creighton #12
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In AP poll; Nova #6 & Creighton #12
What a jump by Creighton! Nobody can say that St. John's doesn't attract attention. Creighton destroys then # 4 Nova on the road...tiny boost. McDermott goes for 39 with a buzzer-beater against St. John's...they go from 20 to 12. You rarely see that kind of jump this late in a single week.
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In AP poll; Nova #6 & Creighton #12
What a jump by Creighton! Nobody can say that St. John's doesn't attract attention. Creighton destroys then # 4 Nova on the road...tiny boost. McDermott goes for 39 with a buzzer-beater against St. John's...they go from 20 to 12. You rarely see that kind of jump this late in a single week.
I think it has way more to do with the fact that a bunch of teams they jumped in the poll lost or struggled against a mediocre team this past week.
- Saint Louis needed OT to beat G Mason at home (They jumped 6 spots despite that performance. Does G Mason attract attention too?)
- Louisville lost at home to Cinci
- Iowa State lost to Kansas
- Iowa lost to undermanned Mich State at home
- Kentucky lost at bubble team LSU
- Oklahoma State lost at home to Baylor who had been on a downward spiral prior to that game
- Pittsburgh lost two home games last week
- Wisconsin lost two home games last week
Thats what accounts for the 8 spot jump in one week
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In AP poll; Nova #6 & Creighton #12
What a jump by Creighton! Nobody can say that St. John's doesn't attract attention. Creighton destroys then # 4 Nova on the road...tiny boost. McDermott goes for 39 with a buzzer-beater against St. John's...they go from 20 to 12. You rarely see that kind of jump this late in a single week.
I think it has way more to do with the fact that a bunch of teams they jumped in the poll lost or struggled against a mediocre team this past week.
- Saint Louis needed OT to beat G Mason at home (They jumped 6 spots despite that performance. Does G Mason attract attention too?)
- Louisville lost at home to Cinci
- Iowa State lost to Kansas
- Iowa lost to undermanned Mich State at home
- Kentucky lost at bubble team LSU
- Oklahoma State lost at home to Baylor who had been on a downward spiral prior to that game
- Pittsburgh lost two home games last week
- Wisconsin lost two home games last week
Thats what accounts for the 8 spot jump in one week
Oh Yeah! What will you say when Creighton beats us again and ascend to the Number 1 ranking? ;) :)
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In AP poll; Nova #6 & Creighton #12
What a jump by Creighton! Nobody can say that St. John's doesn't attract attention. Creighton destroys then # 4 Nova on the road...tiny boost. McDermott goes for 39 with a buzzer-beater against St. John's...they go from 20 to 12. You rarely see that kind of jump this late in a single week.
I think it has way more to do with the fact that a bunch of teams they jumped in the poll lost or struggled against a mediocre team this past week.
- Saint Louis needed OT to beat G Mason at home (They jumped 6 spots despite that performance. Does G Mason attract attention too?)
- Louisville lost at home to Cinci
- Iowa State lost to Kansas
- Iowa lost to undermanned Mich State at home
- Kentucky lost at bubble team LSU
- Oklahoma State lost at home to Baylor who had been on a downward spiral prior to that game
- Pittsburgh lost two home games last week
- Wisconsin lost two home games last week
Thats what accounts for the 8 spot jump in one week
Oh Yeah! What will you say when Creighton beats us again and ascend to the Number 1 ranking? ;) :)
Hahaha.
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DeWayne Polee just hit a game winning 3 with 4 seconds left to pull out a road win for SD ST over Boise St.
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DeWayne Polee just hit a game winning 3 with 4 seconds left to pull out a road win for SD ST over Boise St.
Lol, just posted the same thing in the college hoops thread. I'll take it down over there.
He's been a real important player on a really good team this year
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DeWayne Polee just hit a game winning 3 with 4 seconds left to pull out a road win for SD ST over Boise St.
Lol, just posted the same thing in the college hoops thread. I'll take it down over there.
He's been a real important player on a really good team this year
Polee can now make the outside shot. He has been solid for them. That pass by Thames awesome!!
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@BGI_AndrewOwens: Mike Brey is looking to play Villanova or St. John’s two years from now. Probably not next year.
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@BGI_AndrewOwens: Mike Brey is looking to play Villanova or St. John’s two years from now. Probably not next year.
Too bad the Irish didn't stay with the BE. The football team would have stayed independent and not be forced to at so many ACC games. The basketball team would have gotten more exposure through the Fox sports network, and the BE would have been stronger overall.
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@BGI_AndrewOwens: Mike Brey is looking to play Villanova or St. John’s two years from now. Probably not next year.
Too bad the Irish didn't stay with the BE. The football team would have stayed independent and not be forced to at so many ACC games. The basketball team would have gotten more exposure through the Fox sports network, and the BE would have been stronger overall.
Pretty sure you get way more exposure on ESPN and ESPN2 playing against Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Pitt etc than you do on Fox Sports 1 which most people don't even know what channel that is on their cable provider
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@BGI_AndrewOwens: Mike Brey is looking to play Villanova or St. John’s two years from now. Probably not next year.
Too bad the Irish didn't stay with the BE. The football team would have stayed independent and not be forced to at so many ACC games. The basketball team would have gotten more exposure through the Fox sports network, and the BE would have been stronger overall.
Pretty sure you get way more exposure on ESPN and ESPN2 playing against Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Pitt etc than you do on Fox Sports 1 which most people don't even know what channel that is on their cable provider
How many games are the Irish on ESPN, compared to all if their games on Fox. Being crammed in the middle of a packed ACC is tough too. I know they were doing the same in the BE, except they are farther away distance wise. The Basketball and their other sports would have gotten some separation from Football. It will be interesting long term how the old BE teams will fare in the ACC.
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@BGI_AndrewOwens: Mike Brey is looking to play Villanova or St. John’s two years from now. Probably not next year.
Too bad the Irish didn't stay with the BE. The football team would have stayed independent and not be forced to at so many ACC games. The basketball team would have gotten more exposure through the Fox sports network, and the BE would have been stronger overall.
Pretty sure you get way more exposure on ESPN and ESPN2 playing against Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Pitt etc than you do on Fox Sports 1 which most people don't even know what channel that is on their cable provider
How many games are the Irish on ESPN, compared to all if their games on Fox. Being crammed in the middle of a packed ACC is tough too. I know they were doing the same in the BE, except they are farther away distance wise. The Basketball and their other sports would have gotten some separation from Football. It will be interesting long term how the old BE teams will fare in the ACC.
It all comes down to money. Their basketball program will generate a ton more money in the ACC than they would have in the new BE
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@BGI_AndrewOwens: Mike Brey is looking to play Villanova or St. John’s two years from now. Probably not next year.
Too bad the Irish didn't stay with the BE. The football team would have stayed independent and not be forced to at so many ACC games. The basketball team would have gotten more exposure through the Fox sports network, and the BE would have been stronger overall.
Pretty sure you get way more exposure on ESPN and ESPN2 playing against Duke, UNC, Syracuse, Pitt etc than you do on Fox Sports 1 which most people don't even know what channel that is on their cable provider
How many games are the Irish on ESPN, compared to all if their games on Fox. Being crammed in the middle of a packed ACC is tough too. I know they were doing the same in the BE, except they are farther away distance wise. The Basketball and their other sports would have gotten some separation from Football. It will be interesting long term how the old BE teams will fare in the ACC.
It all comes down to money. Their basketball program will generate a ton more money in the ACC than they would have in the new BE
You are correct... Frustratingly and unfortunately. At least with college Basketball you can play old rivals an it be a good thing , unlike college football where a team is taking a big risk.. Living in Texas it is a shame that UT and A&M do not play each other (state government almost made legislation to force them to play), but the game would potentially wreck their season with a loss.
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Nice article on Buzz Williams & his community generosity. Interesting he has no agent;
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24433916/humorous-antics-aside-marquette-coach-williams-is-a-positive-force-for-children (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24433916/humorous-antics-aside-marquette-coach-williams-is-a-positive-force-for-children)
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Nova up 8 on SH at half.
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@VUhoops: Jay Wright notches career win #400 as Villanova downs Seton Hall, 70-53. Recap coming… http://t.co/ndrUHW91xx (http://t.co/ndrUHW91xx)
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@VUhoops: Jay Wright notches career win #400 as Villanova downs Seton Hall, 70-53. Recap coming… http://t.co/ndrUHW91xx (http://t.co/ndrUHW91xx)
Nice...it sets up revenge for us!
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Xavier beats PC. PC starting to struggle a bit, wearing down?
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Xavier beats PC. PC starting to struggle a bit, wearing down?
Hard to say. Teams pretty even and X wins a close one at home.
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@HolyLandofHoops: Updated AP poll. Villanova #6, Creighton #18.
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I just saw a tweet from Zags that Cleveland Melvin is no longer enrolled at Depaul.
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http://zagsblog.com/depaul/depauls-melvin-leaves-program/ (http://zagsblog.com/depaul/depauls-melvin-leaves-program/)
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I just saw a tweet from Zags that Cleveland Melvin is no longer enrolled at Depaul.
Edit*
http://zagsblog.com/depaul/depauls-melvin-leaves-program/ (http://zagsblog.com/depaul/depauls-melvin-leaves-program/)
Kid is months from graduating. Unreal.
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@CasualHoya: Bryce Cotton the one guy Hoyas need to stop. He has 19 points at half as Hoyas trail 36-32.
McD may be best player in BE, but Cotton is MVP when you consider what he does for undermanned PC.
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@CasualHoya: Bryce Cotton the one guy Hoyas need to stop. He has 19 points at half as Hoyas trail 36-32.
McD may be best player in BE, but Cotton is MVP when you consider what he does for undermanned PC.
Georgetown pulling away. PC has hit a wall. Little depth and a lot of games left on the road are beginning to take its toll.
Bryce Cotton is averaging like 39 minutes a game.
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I just saw a tweet from Zags that Cleveland Melvin is no longer enrolled at Depaul.
Edit*
http://zagsblog.com/depaul/depauls-melvin-leaves-program/ (http://zagsblog.com/depaul/depauls-melvin-leaves-program/)
Word is Purnell is going to get a 5th year. Large buyout plus a number of freshmen is going to buy him 1 more year
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Purnell is the worst BE coach in the history of the conference. DePaul fans should riot.
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Purnell is the worst BE coach in the history of the conference. DePaul fans should riot.
What fans?
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http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/2/11/5400334/hoya-takeaway-georgetown-83-providence-71 (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/2/11/5400334/hoya-takeaway-georgetown-83-providence-71)
"It seems like Georgetown has demonstrated it can do almost everything, but is only capable of excelling in a few areas at a time. Right now, the Hoyas are featuring strong back court play, an effective offense based on attacking the rim and avoiding turnovers, and much welcomed parity in the free throw department. This has been accompanied by a slip in the team’s defense and a continued struggle by team’s outmanned front court. Tonight’s game reinforces what the Hoyas have already proven themselves to be, a decidedly mediocre bubble team that can produce moments of greatness and horror.
The Great Bubble Adventure of 2014 continues Sunday with another huge game at St. John’s, yet another team quite close to the cut line."
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Fox blowing up inflatable Pirates. Yikes!
@RogRubin: Marquette (13-10, 5-5 Big East) and Seton Hall (13-10, 4-6) about to tip at the Rock. Rough guess: 500 fans in the arena right now.
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Fox blowing up inflatable Pirates. Yikes!
@RogRubin: Marquette (13-10, 5-5 Big East) and Seton Hall (13-10, 4-6) about to tip at the Rock. Rough guess: 500 fans in the arena right now.
I don't like Marquette at 6-5...let's go Pirates.
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@CerasolisGhost: FINAL: Marquette - 77, Seton Hall - 66. Golden Eagles run away w/ a must-win game down stretch. 17 TOs, 12 ORebs allowed do SHU in. #shbb
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Fox blowing up inflatable Pirates. Yikes!
@RogRubin: Marquette (13-10, 5-5 Big East) and Seton Hall (13-10, 4-6) about to tip at the Rock. Rough guess: 500 fans in the arena right now.
I don't like Marquette at 6-5...let's go Pirates.
Buzz squeezing everything he can out of Marquette. They are hard to watch sometimes (offensively challenged) but he is doing it the old fashioned way, tough defense, timely shooting. Still a tough out.
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http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/2/11/5400334/hoya-takeaway-georgetown-83-providence-71 (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/2/11/5400334/hoya-takeaway-georgetown-83-providence-71)
"It seems like Georgetown has demonstrated it can do almost everything, but is only capable of excelling in a few areas at a time. Right now, the Hoyas are featuring strong back court play, an effective offense based on attacking the rim and avoiding turnovers, and much welcomed parity in the free throw department. This has been accompanied by a slip in the team’s defense and a continued struggle by team’s outmanned front court. Tonight’s game reinforces what the Hoyas have already proven themselves to be, a decidedly mediocre bubble team that can produce moments of greatness and horror.
The Great Bubble Adventure of 2014 continues Sunday with another huge game at St. John’s, yet another team quite close to the cut line."
wow don't agree with that assessment at all. Our defense has been much better over this 4 game win streak and our front court has been scoring more than ever before as well. And of course I don't think we're decidedly mediocre at all. Can't wait for our game on Sunday.
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http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/2/11/5400334/hoya-takeaway-georgetown-83-providence-71 (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/2/11/5400334/hoya-takeaway-georgetown-83-providence-71)
"It seems like Georgetown has demonstrated it can do almost everything, but is only capable of excelling in a few areas at a time. Right now, the Hoyas are featuring strong back court play, an effective offense based on attacking the rim and avoiding turnovers, and much welcomed parity in the free throw department. This has been accompanied by a slip in the team’s defense and a continued struggle by team’s outmanned front court. Tonight’s game reinforces what the Hoyas have already proven themselves to be, a decidedly mediocre bubble team that can produce moments of greatness and horror.
The Great Bubble Adventure of 2014 continues Sunday with another huge game at St. John’s, yet another team quite close to the cut line."
wow don't agree with that assessment at all. Our defense has been much better over this 4 game win streak and our front court has been scoring more than ever before as well. And of course I don't think we're decidedly mediocre at all. Can't wait for our game on Sunday.
Should be a battle between two peaking teams, and possibly a knockout game for an at-large bid. We just need to take care of business first against SHU.
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@CerasolisGhost: Seton Hall dropped 10 spots to No. 93 in KenPom after their 77-66 loss to Marquette last night. #shbb
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At couple of interesting points;
@BEandBeyond: Our thoughts on how the Big East can be a force for a long time http://t.co/kMExA13F8T (http://t.co/kMExA13F8T)
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Fox blowing up inflatable Pirates. Yikes!
@RogRubin: Marquette (13-10, 5-5 Big East) and Seton Hall (13-10, 4-6) about to tip at the Rock. Rough guess: 500 fans in the arena right now.
I don't like Marquette at 6-5...let's go Pirates.
I do. There one of three teams we can sweep. Having them a game ahead of us isnt a problem if we take care of business.
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Should Wichita State be considered for Big East? VCU, St. Louis have been talked about. But why not Wichita?
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Should Wichita State be considered for Big East? VCU, St. Louis have been talked about. But why not Wichita?
I don't think it's wise to keep adding teams that aren't in the east. It's nice that Creighton is having a fine season, but they are not a BE team because they are in the east. There is no rivalry to grow.
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If we are going to add two more, I think that UMASS and VCU are logical choices. UMASS from a location standpoint, tradition standpoint, and that they seem to be on the upswing. VCU is better than others from a location standpoint, and they have been a very successful program of late.
My one concern with VCU is what happens if Shaka leaves. It is premature, but Butler doesn't look nearly as attractive for the league as it did a year ago when Stevens was there. No one saw Stevens making the leap to the pros (or leaving Butler generally) when he was turning down programs left and right. I know that Shaka has turned down plenty of opportunities, but I'm sure there are a few jobs he would HAVE to take and if/when he does, what happens to VCU.
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Not suggesting them, but SLU will get a big push from Catholic schools in all probability.
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@BEandBeyond: How does this year's Big East conference stack up with the 'old Big East' of the past 10 years? Check it out at: http://t.co/Qp4blzqlTM (http://t.co/Qp4blzqlTM)
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Everyone looks at this issue from a fan's perspective. But at the end of the day it's a business decision for each school.
That's why I can't see the conference adding more teams anytime soon. Each team is getting $5mil a year from Fox. Just for basketball. That's pretty remarkable.
If they add 2 more teams, Fox would have to be willing to pay at least $10m more per season. Otherwise everyone is taking home less.
As good as Witchita St and VCU might be, I don't think they are worth an extra $10m to Fox. 10 is perfect. It gives Fox bball inventory, the conference plays round-robbin, and each school takes home the max amount of revenue. Adding teams will dilute that.
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Everyone looks at this issue from a fan's perspective. But at the end of the day it's a business decision for each school.
That's why I can't see the conference adding more teams anytime soon. Each team is getting $5mil a year from Fox. Just for basketball. That's pretty remarkable.
If they add 2 more teams, Fox would have to be willing to pay at least $10m more per season. Otherwise everyone is taking home less.
As good as Witchita St and VCU might be, I don't think they are worth an extra $10m to Fox. 10 is perfect. It gives Fox bball inventory, the conference plays round-robbin, and each school takes home the max amount of revenue. Adding teams will dilute that.
I agree with you. It might be better from a PR standpoint to have 12 teams, but from a financial standpoint, it doesn't seem to make sense. If there were two great programs available (say a Uconn and Memphis) then it would be a good idea. I like VCU but I don't know that they bring a big enough tv market. St. Louis brings in a tv market but I don't know that they will maintain a level of success to bring in enough viewers over the long haul. A 10 team Big East, with tough competition from top to bottom, seems to make the most sense right now.
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There are rumors that the contract states Fox will increase the pay day should teams be added.
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There are rumors that the contract states Fox will increase the pay day should teams be added.
Who do you as a Gtown fan want to see added.
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There are rumors that the contract states Fox will increase the pay day should teams be added.
Who do you as a Gtown fan want to see added.
It depends what the restrictions are. I think realistically the best adds at this point would be VCU and St. Louis. Not only would we be great at Basketball but how sick would that soccer conference be!
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Ideally you'd like to add one to the (future) Eastern Division- SJU, SHU, Nova, Gtown, Prov.- and one to the Western Division-XU, DePaul,Marq., Creighton, Butler
Current TV markets w ranking- NY-1, Chicago-3, Philly-4, DC-8, Indianapolis-26, Milwaukee-34, Cincy-35, Providence-52,Omaha-76
The big, honking hole- TV wise and Big East tradition-wise is Boston at number 8.
Other top TV markets which could conceivably be part of the BE (east coast or Midwest, does not have a highly established school in another conference, has a school which could be remotely considered for the BE)
Detroit-11
Tampa-14
Cleveland-18
Orlando-19
St. Louis-21
Charlotte-25
Baltimore-27
Hartford/New Haven-31
Richmond-58
Just throwing it out there for informational purposes. Obviously, TV market isn't the only requirement...help to have an established program or one with high potential.
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Ideally you'd like to add one to the (future) Eastern Division- SJU, SHU, Nova, Gtown, Prov.- and one to the Western Division-XU, DePaul,Marq., Creighton, Butler
Current TV markets w ranking- NY-1, Chicago-3, Philly-4, DC-8, Indianapolis-26, Milwaukee-34, Cincy-35, Providence-52,Omaha-76
The big, honking hole- TV wise and Big East tradition-wise is Boston at number 8.
Other top TV markets which could conceivably be part of the BE (east coast or Midwest, does not have a highly established school in another conference, has a school which could be remotely considered for the BE)
Detroit-11
Tampa-14
Cleveland-18
Orlando-19
St. Louis-21
Charlotte-25
Baltimore-27
Hartford/New Haven-31
Richmond-58
Just throwing it out there for informational purposes. Obviously, TV market isn't the only requirement...help to have an established program or one with high potential.
Thanks for posting this. I haven't bothered to look but I posted something similar last year with a big breakdown of TV markets. I think TV markets and also attendance/school size need to play a factor. But not at the price of the premise of what the new BE is based on.
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Ideally you'd like to add one to the (future) Eastern Division- SJU, SHU, Nova, Gtown, Prov.- and one to the Western Division-XU, DePaul,Marq., Creighton, Butler
Current TV markets w ranking- NY-1, Chicago-3, Philly-4, DC-8, Indianapolis-26, Milwaukee-34, Cincy-35, Providence-52,Omaha-76
The big, honking hole- TV wise and Big East tradition-wise is Boston at number 8.
Other top TV markets which could conceivably be part of the BE (east coast or Midwest, does not have a highly established school in another conference, has a school which could be remotely considered for the BE)
Detroit-11
Tampa-14
Cleveland-18
Orlando-19
St. Louis-21
Charlotte-25
Baltimore-27
Hartford/New Haven-31
Richmond-58
Just throwing it out there for informational purposes. Obviously, TV market isn't the only requirement...help to have an established program or one with high potential.
Out of that list St. Louis & Richmond are potential matches. Detroit isn't a good enough program. UMass for the Boston market is a stretch but might work
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UMass and St. Louis would round out the league very nicely.
I would love those two additions.
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The Problem with Umass is their D1 football team. Unless they give up on their recent move to 1A and drop back down to 1AA I don't see them being added.
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@eamonnbrennan: Saint Louis is good at basketball, and good at being good. My feature on the Billikens: http://t.co/FD6nazVHmm (http://t.co/FD6nazVHmm)
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The Problem with Umass is their D1 football team. Unless they give up on their recent move to 1A and drop back down to 1AA I don't see them being added.
Just read that they are spending alot of money upgrading their football field so you are probably right. St Louis is a no brainer in my opinion if the league is going to expand
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St. Joes?
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St. Joes?
Nova
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http://ux.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2014/02/15/butler-freshman-rene-castro-will-transfer-from-school/5512829/ (http://ux.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2014/02/15/butler-freshman-rene-castro-will-transfer-from-school/5512829/)
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Who do you gguys think we should be rooting for in the Quette/Xavier game? Im thinking marquette because we have a chance to sweep them but I am not positive.
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I'm rooting for Xavier. A loss for 'Quette puts us ahead of them on the bubble. If we beat G'town, we pass them. Then we can worry about PC losing a couple. If we finish 4th in the BE, we will dance. Also, Xavier has a pretty tough road ahead. If they lose a couple, and we keep winning, we may be able to jump them.
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Love Buzz! Turning things around;
@MarquetteMBB: #mubb leads Xavier 39-29 at the half, led by nine points from J. Wilson and 8 from Gardner. Both teams shooting 50 pct. from the floor.
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@PhilKasiecki: Oliver Purnell may be running out of time at DePaul http://t.co/jLyuu4ZqfJ (http://t.co/jLyuu4ZqfJ)
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Damn, Creighton smoking Nova again. They just own Wright's team. I kinda feel the same way about us and Gtown. Hope tonight makes me wrong.
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Damn, Creighton smoking Nova again. They just own Wright's team. I kinda feel the same way about us and Gtown. Hope tonight makes me wrong.
How do you feel about being wrong?! :-)
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@PhilKasiecki: Oliver Purnell may be running out of time at DePaul http://t.co/jLyuu4ZqfJ (http://t.co/jLyuu4ZqfJ)
Interesting, I was listening to Anthony Davis being interviewed by Bill Simmons. They were discussing how the city of Chicago is dominating with talent & Simmons asked why there wasn't a college taking advantage of this and why DePaul couldn't land these kids. Davis said that Wayne Blackshear, himself and a couple other Chicago kids all planned on going to DePaul together but one of them got cold feet and the plan kinda fell apart. DePaul is a sleeping giant, with the new arena coming in all it takes is the right coach and these guys could be huge again
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Damn, Creighton smoking Nova again. They just own Wright's team. I kinda feel the same way about us and Gtown. Hope tonight makes me wrong.
How do you feel about being wrong?! :-)
Feels great!!!
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@PhilKasiecki: Oliver Purnell may be running out of time at DePaul http://t.co/jLyuu4ZqfJ (http://t.co/jLyuu4ZqfJ)
Interesting, I was listening to Anthony Davis being interviewed by Bill Simmons. They were discussing how the city of Chicago is dominating with talent & Simmons asked why there wasn't a college taking advantage of this and why DePaul couldn't land these kids. Davis said that Wayne Blackshear, himself and a couple other Chicago kids all planned on going to DePaul together but one of them got cold feet and the plan kinda fell apart. DePaul is a sleeping giant, with the new arena coming in all it takes is the right coach and these guys could be huge again
I also listened to this, totally didn't realize Chicago doesn't really have a college bball team. DePaul needs a coach that can play up the fact that Chicago is a huge city that can rally behind a team.
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Rooting for Nova! moving on up,
http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/college/content/20140217-beating-9th-ranked-villanova-would-give-pc-a-major-late-season-boost.ece (http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/college/content/20140217-beating-9th-ranked-villanova-would-give-pc-a-major-late-season-boost.ece)
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When DePaul eventually fires Purnell, would they have $ to attract Shaka Smart? He knows the area and there are a ton of kids from Chicago area who would love his style of play. Would be great for conference and give DePaul a boost. I realize he may get better offers at some point, but just a thought.
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@zkeefer: Kameron Woods has been temporarily suspended from the #Butler basketball team, per coach Brandon Miller.
Leading rebounder.
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Posted this here because BE could maybe learn a lesson from ad campaigns from our basketball brethren-
The Atlantic 10 Conference is hoping that an "assertive new campaign" beginning this week will "help it gain the notice and attention enjoyed by its more well-known rivals," according to Stuart Elliott of the N.Y. TIMES. The campaign is being created by Philadelphia-based agency 160 Over 90, which "also works on advertising" for A-10 schools Dayton and George Washington, as well as for UCLA and Florida. The "upbeat tone of the campaign is exemplified by its theme, 'Who wants next?'" The theme also "serves as the address" of a microsite, whowantsnext.com. Among the microsite contents are "a forceful two-minute commercial; a manifesto that proclaims the conference’s academic achievement along with its athletic prowess; and results of recent A-10 basketball games that carry the confident heading 'Scoreboards Don’t Lie.'" The campaign also includes "a 60-second version of the commercial," which is to run during TV coverage of A-10 basketball games. There will be an "extensive presence in social media, using the hashtag #WhoWantsNext." Conference members also will "promote it on their individual" school/athletic websites, Facebook pages and Twitter feeds. A-10 Commissioner Bernadette McGlade said the theme is appropriate because it invokes "the gritty experience you have on the street with pickup basketball" when "the winner gets to stay on the court." The commercial features a narration by poet Saul Williams, "who speaks as viewers watch fast-paced clips of A-10 basketball games." There also are ads "that are more temperate." For example, one uses the headline, “Winning doesn’t mean losing,” and under the rubric, “What we stand for,” explains that “running our programs the right way and winning aren’t separate goals, they’re one and the same” (N.Y. TIMES, 2/19).
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
How was DePaul allowed to be in the BE to begin with? There will be years where a team is bad but if the administration doesn't care that is troubling for the conference...Especially to a 10 team conference.
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
How was DePaul allowed to be in the BE to begin with? There will be years where a team is bad but if the administration doesn't care that is troubling for the conference...Especially to a 10 team conference.
The Chicago market. That's how
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
DePaul can be good but Purnell stinks. The guy needs to go. Time for them to hire somebody with a plan who can recruit Chicago and the Midwest well.
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
DePaul can be good but Purnell stinks. The guy needs to go. Time for them to hire somebody with a plan who can recruit Chicago and the Midwest well.
Shaka
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
DePaul can be good but Purnell stinks. The guy needs to go. Time for them to hire somebody with a plan who can recruit Chicago and the Midwest well.
Shaka
I don't know how Shaka would go there. Turning down UCLA and end up with DePaul? That's rough.
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
DePaul can be good but Purnell stinks. The guy needs to go. Time for them to hire somebody with a plan who can recruit Chicago and the Midwest well.
Shaka
I don't know how Shaka would go there. Turning down UCLA and end up with DePaul? That's rough.
Which is precisely why DePaul won't pull the plug. Who the hell wants that job???
It is very easy to fire someone it is MUCH harder to hire someone? If you would have said that DePaul could hire a coach who helped turn around Dayton and then took Clemson to 5 consecutive NCAA tourney appearances you would say "GO FREAKIN' HIRE THAT GUY." Because there is no way they could do any better. And guess what that is who they hired. Now has it worked out? No. But you're DePaul who in the hell are they going to hire? And don't tell me some no record career assistant because you can't have it both ways. In other words you can't say Purnell stinks even with his track record but you KNOW FOR A FACT a no record career assistant will do better.
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Craig Robinson might be a good hire. He has Chicago connections and would probably recruit the city well due to the Obama connection. I have no idea how good a coach he is.
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Craig Robinson might be a good hire. He has Chicago connections and would probably recruit the city well due to the Obama connection. I have no idea how good a coach he is.
He is a HORRIBLE coach. He sits silently practically all game and lets his guys fire shots from wherever they want. The only reason he hasn't been fired at Oregon State yet is because of Obama.
I hope the NSA doesn't monitor these boards....
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Craig Robinson might be a good hire. He has Chicago connections and would probably recruit the city well due to the Obama connection. I have no idea how good a coach he is.
Exactly. Don't get me wrong there are candidates but be clear no real established coaches and certainly none with the track record of Purnell. In other words if Purnell was a bit of a reach then their next hire will be a LEAP of faith.
Same thing with Seton Hall fans. I understand when you want results from a coach. But look who SHU has hired the last 4 hires since PJ: Blaney (Patriot League), Amaker (Assistant), Louis Orr (MAAC), Gonzo (MAAC) and Willard (MAAC). Notice the trend. These jobs are not in high demand. That is why they keep going back to the MAAC. You want to fire him, fine. Tell me who you think should be hired (realistically) and then tell me why you think they will do a BETTER job.
Kentucky fires Gillispie and hires Calipari. I know damn well Calipari was going to do a better job at UK. Look at his track record.
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
DePaul can be good but Purnell stinks. The guy needs to go. Time for them to hire somebody with a plan who can recruit Chicago and the Midwest well.
Shaka
I don't know how Shaka would go there. Turning down UCLA and end up with DePaul? That's rough.
Was kidding, but his wife went to Northwestern and he has recruited that area I believe. On the other hand, would he want to take on a total rebuild? Secondly, could DP pay him? I now realize I'm refuting my own silly suggestion. ;)
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
DePaul can be good but Purnell stinks. The guy needs to go. Time for them to hire somebody with a plan who can recruit Chicago and the Midwest well.
Shaka
I don't know how Shaka would go there. Turning down UCLA and end up with DePaul? That's rough.
Was kidding, but his wife went to Northwestern and he has recruited that area I believe. On the other hand, would he want to take on a total rebuild? Secondly, could DP pay him? I now realize I'm refuting my own silly suggestion. ;)
I know me and you have talked about it. If he leaves VCU I see him going to a basketball focused school. Probably within a big city. He would literally shock the college basketball world if it was DePaul. If DePaul has some ballsy donors they should throw the kitchen sink at him.
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
DePaul can be good but Purnell stinks. The guy needs to go. Time for them to hire somebody with a plan who can recruit Chicago and the Midwest well.
Shaka
I don't know how Shaka would go there. Turning down UCLA and end up with DePaul? That's rough.
Was kidding, but his wife went to Northwestern and he has recruited that area I believe. On the other hand, would he want to take on a total rebuild? Secondly, could DP pay him? I now realize I'm refuting my own silly suggestion. ;)
I know me and you have talked about it. If he leaves VCU I see him going to a basketball focused school. Probably within a big city. He would literally shock the college basketball world if it was DePaul. If DePaul has some ballsy donors they should throw the kitchen sink at him.
Somewhat off point, but I saw this recently. Pretty smart couple;
"Smart's given name was bestowed in honor of the famous Zulu warrior.[11] He graduated magna cum laude from Kenyon with a degree in History, researching and writing on issues related to race and the Great Migration his junior and senior years.[12] Smart received an NCAA postgraduate scholarship and earned a master's degree in social science at California University of Pennsylvania. He developed a love for quotations at Kenyon. Smart began writing down quotes into a digital document that is now over 110 pages long. He also likes nature documentaries featuring big cats.[13]
Smart has been married to Maya Payne, a professional writer and an alumna of both Harvard University and Northwestern University,[14] since 2006.[3] Their child, Zora Sanae Smart, was born on September 25, 2011.[15]"
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@phillipshoops: DePaul getting smoked again -- by Xavier -- yet Oliver Purnell faces minimal pressure to win from university administration. Incredible.
DePaul can be good but Purnell stinks. The guy needs to go. Time for them to hire somebody with a plan who can recruit Chicago and the Midwest well.
Shaka
I don't know how Shaka would go there. Turning down UCLA and end up with DePaul? That's rough.
Was kidding, but his wife went to Northwestern and he has recruited that area I believe. On the other hand, would he want to take on a total rebuild? Secondly, could DP pay him? I now realize I'm refuting my own silly suggestion. ;)
I know me and you have talked about it. If he leaves VCU I see him going to a basketball focused school. Probably within a big city. He would literally shock the college basketball world if it was DePaul. If DePaul has some ballsy donors they should throw the kitchen sink at him.
Two things:
1)He turned down the Illinois job 2 years ago when they fired Bruce Weber. A significantly better job then DePaul (and quite frankly most of the Big East) at a state school with an opportunity to return to Illinois and recruit Chicago in a great conference.
2)You can make a serious argument VCU is a better job then DePaul right now.
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As Creighton dismantles Marquette on their home court, it is clear that McD Senior can coach a little bit. This team may not get to final eight, as some folks say, but man he has them prepared, organized and playing team ball. Class of Big East for sure. When young McD leaves, obviously there will be a fall off, but I suspect the coach will continue to be successful.
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As Creighton dismantles Marquette on their home court, it is clear that McD Senior can coach a little bit. This team may not get to final eight, as some folks say, but man he has them prepared, organized and playing team ball. Class of Big East for sure. When young McD leaves, obviously there will be a fall off, but I suspect the coach will continue to be successful.
They lose a lot after this year. His son is a once in a 20 year type of 4 year special kid. McD can coach but keep in mind look at his 4 years at Iowa St in between N Iowa and Creighton. Four losing seasons. Bolted before he could get fired when Altman left for Oregon.
My point is sometimes things don't work out, doesn't mean the coach stinks or is "terrible." Circumstances sometimes just don't pan out.
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As Creighton dismantles Marquette on their home court, it is clear that McD Senior can coach a little bit. This team may not get to final eight, as some folks say, but man he has them prepared, organized and playing team ball. Class of Big East for sure. When young McD leaves, obviously there will be a fall off, but I suspect the coach will continue to be successful.
I wouldn't be surprised one but if he bolts to a new school after this year, even if it winds up being a somewhat lateral move. I can't see them finishing in the top half of the league next year. His value as a coach will never be any higher
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@JonRothstein: Xavier's final five regular season games: at Georgetown, at St. John's, Creighton, at Seton Hall, Villanova. Arduous slate.
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Interesting line ;
@BEandBeyond: Seton Hall favored by 1.5 over Georgetown tonight. Can the Hoyas pull off the "upset"?
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seton hall just dismantling the hoyas
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Georgetown does not come back they are probably done in terms of a at-large bid.
They are getting a lot of mileage out of that MSU win which has to be seen in context in terms of MSU missing both Payne and Dawson that game.
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Georgetown does not come back they are probably done in terms of a at-large bid.
They are getting a lot of mileage out of that MSU win which has to be seen in context in terms of MSU missing both Payne and Dawson that game.
Not feeling so good anymore about the beating we gave Georgetown.
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Not feeling so good anymore about the beating we gave Georgetown.
Don't be silly.
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We would have dismantled a lot of teams with how we played that night. Plenty to feel good about.
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Georgetown does not come back they are probably done in terms of a at-large bid.
They are getting a lot of mileage out of that MSU win which has to be seen in context in terms of MSU missing both Payne and Dawson that game.
Also was told that shockingly only because it is Izzo that Mich St did not put much focus into that game instead focusing on conference games. Shocking only in that Izzo would admit it.
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Georgetown up by 12...I think that's what we'd want. We'd be tied for third.
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Georgetown up by 12...I think that's what we'd want. We'd be tied for third.
Or the middle of the conference gets further muddy with their win.
Xavier loses RPI so our game on Tuesday isn't worth as much
And Xavier is coming into Tuesday off a loss.
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Georgetown up by 12...I think that's what we'd want. We'd be tied for third.
Or the middle of the conference gets further muddy with their win.
Xavier loses RPI so our game on Tuesday isn't worth as much
And Xavier is coming into Tuesday off a loss.
I think 3rd place is worth it though. Looks a lot better. Especially with a chance to pass them with tuesdays game
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I know I want Xavier to win. Keeps them in top 50 rpi and sets up a possible seeding game in eyes of committee.
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If Xavier loses that actually makes the Nova game much bigger. If we can beat Nova and Xavier loses that is a big jump for us. If we can beat them on Tuesday we will be solidly in third.
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Kevin W not fooling around;
@BrendanPrunty: Official word that Sterling Gibbs is out today, per coach's decision. Have confirmed @NJHoopsHaven report that Gibbs was suspended today.
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Kevin W not fooling around;
@BrendanPrunty: Official word that Sterling Gibbs is out today, per coach's decision. Have confirmed @NJHoopsHaven report that Gibbs was suspended today.
Setting the tone for next year, much like what Lav did with the Dlo suspension last year
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Kevin W not fooling around;
@BrendanPrunty: Official word that Sterling Gibbs is out today, per coach's decision. Have confirmed @NJHoopsHaven report that Gibbs was suspended today.
Setting the tone for next year, much like what Lav did with the Dlo suspension last year
For next year?
Yeah Whitehead and company will run that team.
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Kevin W not fooling around;
@BrendanPrunty: Official word that Sterling Gibbs is out today, per coach's decision. Have confirmed @NJHoopsHaven report that Gibbs was suspended today.
Setting the tone for next year, much like what Lav did with the Dlo suspension last year
For next year?
Yeah Whitehead and company will run that team.
Hes trying to create an environment within the program that this kind of stuff won't be tolerated going forward. Hes laying down the law harshly now to get the message across and make sure he won't have to deal with this kind of nonsense next year when they will be playing meaningful games this time of year
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Iversonitis I guess;
@CerasolisGhost: Willard "Over the last week or so, week and half, Sterling has not had the greatest attitude." #shbb
@CerasolisGhost: Kevin Willard on Gibbs suspension: "He didn’t come the other day with a great attitude, he didn’t come ready to practice." #shbb
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SH in great effort loses to Creighton by one.
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Creighton missed so many free throws in the last few minutes.
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PC beats Butler by 6, Cotton scorched it as usual.
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@WeAreDePaul: RT @DePaulSID: Billy Garrett Jr. picks up @BIGEASTMBB Rookie of the Week honor for fifth time this season. #dpubb @BGarrett_5 #DePaul
@CerasolisGhost: DePaul's Billy Garrett Jr. named Big East Rookie of Week for fifth time. 17 pts, 5 ast vs Xavier, 26 pts vs Marquette.
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Jordan might be the Most Valuable Freshman in the BE, but I think BE Rookie of the Year is in the bag for Garrett.
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Jordan might be the Most Valuable Freshman in the BE, but I think BE Rookie of the Year is in the bag for Garrett.
Confused.
How can he have it in the bag?
I don't think either of them is a sure thing by any stretch.
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Jordan might be the Most Valuable Freshman in the BE, but I think BE Rookie of the Year is in the bag for Garrett.
Confused.
How can he have it in the bag?
I don't think either of them is a sure thing by any stretch.
In addition to winning the weekly honor a league leading 5 times and leading all freshman in scoring and assists, I think Garrett will have the ability to "get his" for the remainder of the season without regard to how it impacts the team, whereas Jordan's contributions to the team's success, while invaluable, will not always fill up the stat sheet, IMO. I hope I'm wrong and we take our 3rd ROY in a row. We'll see.
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Jordan might be the Most Valuable Freshman in the BE, but I think BE Rookie of the Year is in the bag for Garrett.
Confused.
How can he have it in the bag?
I don't think either of them is a sure thing by any stretch.
In addition to winning the weekly honor a league leading 5 times and leading all freshman in scoring and assists, I think Garrett will have the ability to "get his" for the remainder of the season without regard to how it impacts the team, whereas Jordan's contributions to the team's success, while invaluable, will not always fill up the stat sheet, IMO. I hope I'm wrong and we take our 3rd ROY in a row. We'll see.
He's got 5 to Sheed's 3? Right? That is the whole season and Sheed's have all been in the BE. Tommy Hamilton has also done very well for DePaul. He could split some votes. Whoever wins its gonna be close. There will some who look at the awards and then others who will see the importance factor.
How many did Karr have last year vs. Archipoddumus.
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Jordan might be the Most Valuable Freshman in the BE, but I think BE Rookie of the Year is in the bag for Garrett.
Confused.
How can he have it in the bag?
I don't think either of them is a sure thing by any stretch.
In addition to winning the weekly honor a league leading 5 times and leading all freshman in scoring and assists, I think Garrett will have the ability to "get his" for the remainder of the season without regard to how it impacts the team, whereas Jordan's contributions to the team's success, while invaluable, will not always fill up the stat sheet, IMO. I hope I'm wrong and we take our 3rd ROY in a row. We'll see.
He's got 5 to Sheed's 3? Right? That is the whole season and Sheed's have all been in the BE. Tommy Hamilton has also done very well for DePaul. He could split some votes. Whoever wins its gonna be close. There will some who look at the awards and then others who will see the importance factor.
How many did Karr have last year vs. Archipoddumus.
JaKarr won the weekly award 7 times to Archipoddumus' 4 times, plus JaKarr led all freshmen in scoring and rebounds.
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Nice story on Garrett;
http://www.depauliaonline.com/sports/billy-garrett-jr-of-depaul-men-s-basketball-and-his-father-have-a-unique-player-coach-relationship-1.3112055#.Uwy9X7S9KSN (http://www.depauliaonline.com/sports/billy-garrett-jr-of-depaul-men-s-basketball-and-his-father-have-a-unique-player-coach-relationship-1.3112055#.Uwy9X7S9KSN)
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saw on Holy land of hoops that some are saying purnell will be out at Depaul and they are targeting Howland to coach. Any one hearing this also?
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saw on Holy land of hoops that some are saying purnell will be out at Depaul and they are targeting Howland to coach. Any one hearing this also?
Would be a real good hire on their part.
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
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saw on Holy land of hoops that some are saying purnell will be out at Depaul and they are targeting Howland to coach. Any one hearing this also?
Wow - Howland would have to be desperate or want to prove a point by taking over the demons
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
When Purnell took it, also being an ACC/MD guy, I personally thought it was a retirement play by Oliver from the get go.
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
Pearl could sure re-invigorate the program and has the midwest ties however his whole controversy with Illinois might be tough considering how he would have to recruit that state.
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
Pearl is headed back to the SEC with a strong chance of him going back to Tennessee
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
Pearl is headed back to the SEC with a strong chance of him going back to Tennessee
Going back to a place he put on violations?
Should we give Fran or Jarvis a call then?
*Not linking Fran to violations just saying lets go for a return engagement.
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
Pearl is headed back to the SEC with a strong chance of him going back to Tennessee
Going back to a place he put on violations?
Should we give Fran or Jarvis a call then?
*Not linking Fran to violations just saying lets go for a return engagement.
Cuonzo is in hot water? I saw them play once this season, and his guys played UK hard.
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
Pearl is headed back to the SEC with a strong chance of him going back to Tennessee
Going back to a place he put on violations?
Should we give Fran or Jarvis a call then?
*Not linking Fran to violations just saying lets go for a return engagement.
The fans there want him back bad. He would bring in major money to that program and he's proven he could win there already. If its not there it will be to another SEC school. Half the coaches in that league are in trouble
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
Pearl is headed back to the SEC with a strong chance of him going back to Tennessee
Going back to a place he put on violations?
Should we give Fran or Jarvis a call then?
*Not linking Fran to violations just saying lets go for a return engagement.
Cuonzo is in hot water? I saw them play once this season, and his guys played UK hard.
This doesnt mean much but it shows people believe its a possibility. I'm not making it up out of thin air
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24456460/after-years-away-repentant-bruce-pearl-could-be-jewel-for-tennessee (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24456460/after-years-away-repentant-bruce-pearl-could-be-jewel-for-tennessee)
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Cant get any worse. Looking at the thread, the rumor got started from a tweet from a guy that worked in the athletic department so he may be right. Some guys think they should go after Pearl but he cant do anything until August. Either way they definitely need a change and either would be an upgrade.
Pearl is headed back to the SEC with a strong chance of him going back to Tennessee
Going back to a place he put on violations?
Should we give Fran or Jarvis a call then?
*Not linking Fran to violations just saying lets go for a return engagement.
The fans there want him back bad. He would bring in major money to that program and he's proven he could win there already. If its not there it will be to another SEC school. Half the coaches in that league are in trouble
Pearl might go to Wake Forest to change things up a bit. It's a little more flattering for a guy to paint his chest Gold. They'll call him the "Golden Pearl." lmao
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Edwin out for SH tonight v. Providence. Not helpful!
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Anybody else notice that these last minute mystery suspensions and mystery injuries have been for games against bubble teams? SHU suspended Teague and Oliver against us, UCLA suspended their 2 best players against Oregon, and now Edwin is out against Providence. Just an observation...
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@BrendanPrunty: Also: Didn't take a mindreader to sense that Seton Hall players were not thrilled with Edwin's decision not to play tonight.
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Seton Hall is a mess right now. They will be adding significant talent next year with Whitehead and Delgado (if he ever gets there), although losing guys like Edwin & Co. Thing is, I could foresee just as many issues with Tiny & Co. around.
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@jeffborzello: Xavier's win over Creighton puts the Musketeers in very good position for an at-large bid heading down the stretch: http://t.co/WOhr900rxb (http://t.co/WOhr900rxb)
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@jeffborzello: Xavier's win over Creighton puts the Musketeers in very good position for an at-large bid heading down the stretch: http://t.co/WOhr900rxb (http://t.co/WOhr900rxb)
Big bummer for us..At this point team just has to keep winning and that's it. SJU is not getting a lot of help right now.
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@jeffborzello: Xavier's win over Creighton puts the Musketeers in very good position for an at-large bid heading down the stretch: http://t.co/WOhr900rxb (http://t.co/WOhr900rxb)
Big bummer for us..At this point team just has to keep winning and that's it. SJU is not getting a lot of help right now.
You should good about yourself. We're the ones helping other teams. It's very Vincentian of us! Be proud of our good deeds! :-)
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@jeffborzello: Xavier's win over Creighton puts the Musketeers in very good position for an at-large bid heading down the stretch: http://t.co/WOhr900rxb (http://t.co/WOhr900rxb)
Big bummer for us..At this point team just has to keep winning and that's it. SJU is not getting a lot of help right now.
You should good about yourself. We're the ones helping other teams. It's very Vincentian of us! Be proud of our good deeds! :-)
The problem is the basketball team has been doing the Vincention mission for other teams for the last 20years...Isn't wrong to be al little selfish now and again hahah.
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How did the Nova/Marquette game get on CBS national network?
I know when the BE signed the deal with Fox that most of the games would be on Fox Sports 1 and 2 with some games for scheduling purposes would be on local TV (so for NY area that would be MSG Network or YES) or CBS Sports Network-cable like today's SJU game. But as far as I knew Big East games would not be shown on CBS Network.
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How did the Nova/Marquette game get on CBS national network?
I know when the BE signed the deal with Fox that most of the games would be on Fox Sports 1 and 2 with some games for scheduling purposes would be on local TV (so for NY area that would be MSG Network or YES) or CBS Sports Network-cable like today's SJU game. But as far as I knew Big East games would not be shown on CBS Network.
I think CBS has some games of everything. Its like them having OSU/IU when you can say the Big Ten Network should have that. Its like DEP/SJU being on CBSNetwork today. I think that's just some of the games they get.
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How did the Nova/Marquette game get on CBS national network?
I know when the BE signed the deal with Fox that most of the games would be on Fox Sports 1 and 2 with some games for scheduling purposes would be on local TV (so for NY area that would be MSG Network or YES) or CBS Sports Network-cable like today's SJU game. But as far as I knew Big East games would not be shown on CBS Network.
I think CBS has some games of everything. Its like them having OSU/IU when you can say the Big Ten Network should have that. Its like DEP/SJU being on CBSNetwork today. I think that's just some of the games they get.
OSU/IU is a bad analogy. CBS has a national contract with the BIG 10 and has for years. Heck their feature games on Selection Weekend is the Big 10 Tourney, semis on Saturday and the title game on Sunday.
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/23495784/cbs-sports-signs-multiyear-deal-to-televise-big-east-basketball (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/23495784/cbs-sports-signs-multiyear-deal-to-televise-big-east-basketball)
CBS Sports has reached a sublicensing agreement with FOX Sports to televise Big East games from 2013-14 to 2018-19, the network announced on Thursday.
Up to 30 men's basketball games per year will be televised on CBS Sports and CBS Sports Network, beginning in the 2014-15 season. The 2013-14 season features 20 Big East games on the two channels, including Butler at Georgetown (Feb. 8) and Marquette at Villanova (March 2) on CBS.
By the looks of it, more games will be on CBS/CBSNetwork moving forward.
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http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/23495784/cbs-sports-signs-multiyear-deal-to-televise-big-east-basketball (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/23495784/cbs-sports-signs-multiyear-deal-to-televise-big-east-basketball)
CBS Sports has reached a sublicensing agreement with FOX Sports to televise Big East games from 2013-14 to 2018-19, the network announced on Thursday.
Up to 30 men's basketball games per year will be televised on CBS Sports and CBS Sports Network, beginning in the 2014-15 season. The 2013-14 season features 20 Big East games on the two channels, including Butler at Georgetown (Feb. 8) and Marquette at Villanova (March 2) on CBS.
By the looks of it, more games will be on CBS/CBSNetwork moving forward.
Good catch. I knew about the sub-licensing agreement but I did not know that CBS would put any of their games on network television.
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@AdamZagoria: Bryce Cotton of Providence is the Big East Player of the Week and Jalen Reynolds of Xavier is ROW
@JohnFanta13: Big East Honor Roll: Doug McDermott, DePaul's Brandon Young, St. John's D'Angelo Harrison, Nova's Darrun Hilliard, Xavier's Semaj Christon
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@BrendanPrunty: Xavier's Matt Stainbrook is down and looking to be in a bit of pain. Looking at his right knee it appears. That would not be good for X.
helped off court. Appears to be knee injury.
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Hall up 32-20 at halftime vs. Xavier
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Hall up 32-20 at halftime vs. Xavier
Trap game but Xavier has the discipline to come back in the second half. Not over by a long shot.
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@BrendanPrunty: Xavier's Matt Stainbrook is down and looking to be in a bit of pain. Looking at his right knee it appears. That would not be good for X.
helped off court. Appears to be knee injury.
If Stainbrook is out for any significant period of time Xavier is in big trouble. Their resume is good enough to sustain losses here at the end of the year and still make the NCAA's but they might not win another game.
I was thinking with Xavier going down tonight and with Villanova left on their schedule they could finish 10-8. In fact the BE could have 4 teams finish 10-8 if things broke perfect. Marquette beats PC and loses to SJU. PC beats Creighton and Xavier loses to Nova. Boom, all 4 finish 10-8. Not likely but possible.
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@NJHoopsHaven: Here is how you do Senior Night: Oliver 20 points, Edwin 17 points, Teague 17 points & 8 rebounds, Flag Man 20 laps. SHU 71, Xavier 62
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I couldn't believe that I was watching the same Xavier team that I saw beat us up almost a week ago...
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I couldn't believe that I was watching the same Xavier team that I saw beat us up almost a week ago...
Two things:
1)They are inconsistent like all the other middle of the pack teams in the BE especially on offense...and...
2)Stainbrook is a huge loss for them.
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I couldn't believe that I was watching the same Xavier team that I saw beat us up almost a week ago...
Two things:
1)They are inconsistent like all the other middle of the pack teams in the BE especially on offense...and...
2)Stainbrook is a huge loss for them.
Very inconsistent offensively;
@CerasolisGhost: Xavier 11-36 (30.5%) from the field outside of Semaj Christon. 3-22 (13.6%) from three on the night. Yikes.
Big "Stain" is an excellent passing big, who finds the right guys cutting to basket or finding them for threes. Agree, huge loss!
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Nice article on quest for Tourney bids. Buzz Williams adds some interesting observations;
http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/college/content/20140303-victory-crucial-to-both-pc-marquettes-ncaa-tourney-hopes.ece (http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/college/content/20140303-victory-crucial-to-both-pc-marquettes-ncaa-tourney-hopes.ece)
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I'm assuming we want Marquette to beat Prov tonight?
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Not as bad as feared;
@Eiser_XU_Sports: Jr. center Matt Stainbrook suffered a strain of the MCL in his left knee last night at Seton Hall; will miss Villanova 3/6, day-to-day after
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Early, but Creighton certainly struggling, down 14 at the half. My sense is Creighton is vulnerable in NCAA Tourney. Teams seem to be figuring them out, except Nova. Lol
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Early, but Creighton certainly struggling, down 14 at the half. My sense is Creighton is vulnerable in NCAA Tourney. Teams seem to be figuring them out, except Nova. Lol
Refs are letting McDermott do his fish out of water routine and not biting on the calls.
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Early, but Creighton certainly struggling, down 14 at the half. My sense is Creighton is vulnerable in NCAA Tourney. Teams seem to be figuring them out, except Nova. Lol
Refs are letting McDermott do his fish out of water routine and not biting on the calls.
Good point, frustrating him too. A little whining in McD when things not going his way.
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Early, but Creighton certainly struggling, down 14 at the half. My sense is Creighton is vulnerable in NCAA Tourney. Teams seem to be figuring them out, except Nova. Lol
Refs are letting McDermott do his fish out of water routine and not biting on the calls.
This is where MVC vs Big East (granted not the BE of the last few years) is beginning to take its toll on Creighton. They are not use to the physical nature, night in and night out. Stainbrook, JaKarr Sampson, Mikael Hopkins etc. The middle and bottom tier teams in the MVC are not nearly as big and physical.
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Perils of scoreboard watching, as GT beats Creighton. Oh well.
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@RidicUpside: Source: Former DePaul Star Cleveland Melvin Claimed By Erie #BayHawks http://t.co/JfW3EvMXDa (http://t.co/JfW3EvMXDa)
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Don't get caught up in this. I don't think Georgetown is going to beat Nova in Philly which means they finish 8-10. They have some very good wins but I find it hard to believe the Committee takes a team with an under .500 record in the BE who lost twice to Seton Hall.
SJU needs to win on Saturday and then do some damage in NY which I think they will.
FYI-I believe Nova clinched a share of the BE crown tonight and with another win clinches the outright title and the no. 1 seed in NY.
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Don't get caught up in this. I don't think Georgetown is going to beat Nova in Philly which means they finish 8-10. They have some very good wins but I find it hard to believe the Committee takes a team with an under .500 record in the BE who lost twice to Seton Hall.
SJU needs to win on Saturday and then do some damage in NY which I think they will.
FYI-I believe Nova clinched a share of the BE crown tonight and with another win clinches the outright title and the no. 1 seed in NY.
On cue;
@jeffborzello: One thing to worry about with Georgetown is the number of overall losses. At Nova and in the BE tourney would be 14: http://t.co/iZwpWSrCiO (http://t.co/iZwpWSrCiO)
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Don't get caught up in this. I don't think Georgetown is going to beat Nova in Philly which means they finish 8-10. They have some very good wins but I find it hard to believe the Committee takes a team with an under .500 record in the BE who lost twice to Seton Hall.
SJU needs to win on Saturday and then do some damage in NY which I think they will.
FYI-I believe Nova clinched a share of the BE crown tonight and with another win clinches the outright title and the no. 1 seed in NY.
On cue;
@jeffborzello: One thing to worry about with Georgetown is the number of overall losses. At Nova and in the BE tourney would be 14: http://t.co/iZwpWSrCiO (http://t.co/iZwpWSrCiO)
Yes, but a win at Nova and Gtown is in. Providence up 29 -27 against Marq at the half. Really need Providence to lose.
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Don't get caught up in this. I don't think Georgetown is going to beat Nova in Philly which means they finish 8-10. They have some very good wins but I find it hard to believe the Committee takes a team with an under .500 record in the BE who lost twice to Seton Hall.
SJU needs to win on Saturday and then do some damage in NY which I think they will.
FYI-I believe Nova clinched a share of the BE crown tonight and with another win clinches the outright title and the no. 1 seed in NY.
On cue;
@jeffborzello: One thing to worry about with Georgetown is the number of overall losses. At Nova and in the BE tourney would be 14: http://t.co/iZwpWSrCiO (http://t.co/iZwpWSrCiO)
Yes, but a win at Nova and Gtown is in. Providence up 29 -27 against Marq at the half. Really need Providence to lose.
Big "but" though with Nova looking to keep winning for a solid NCAA seed. Will be tough to beat in Philly.
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Hard to beat a good team on Senior Night. Nova will probably be up for the game, just as G'town was tonight against Creighton. It also has me worried about aour game against Marquette.
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Wow@ Prov. Game. That looked familiar!
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Providence wins another game thanks to forcing a turnover on a shooter off of an inbounds pass. Amazing
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Wow@ Prov. Game. That looked familiar!
Cooley has done a really good job with this team. In late situations other teams are trying to get the ball to their best free through shooter expecting the foul, Cooley has his teams tie them up when they have the possession arrow. That's twice now that the player didn't even attempt to make a basketball move, just went into fetal position.
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Wow!!! The new Big East is a really exciting basketball league. The people that got these teams to commit, did an excellent job. During the last week of the season, every game has relevance to the NCAA tournament. I am not sure we could have said that with last year's league. Hopefully, the competitiveness continues for years to come. Unfortunately, once the NCAA tournament reaches the final four weekend (and maybe sooner), there will be no reference to the "Big East" until November 2014. That's a long period of dormancy and irrelevance. Another sport needs to be hyped and it won't be football.
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It seems an amazing number of games are buzzer beaters or go to overtime...they should use the end of games in some of their marketing. We were involved on the wrong side in a few too many.
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Wow@ Prov. Game. That looked familiar!
Cooley has done a really good job with this team. In late situations other teams are trying to get the ball to their best free through shooter expecting the foul, Cooley has his teams tie them up when they have the possession arrow. That's twice now that the player didn't even attempt to make a basketball move, just went into fetal position.
Interesting & smart;
@FriarFrenzy: AC Bob Simon on last night's radio post gm w @JRbroadcaster & Joe Hassett said told refs in last TO they were not fouling right away. #pcbb
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Don't get caught up in this. I don't think Georgetown is going to beat Nova in Philly which means they finish 8-10. They have some very good wins but I find it hard to believe the Committee takes a team with an under .500 record in the BE who lost twice to Seton Hall.
SJU needs to win on Saturday and then do some damage in NY which I think they will.
FYI-I believe Nova clinched a share of the BE crown tonight and with another win clinches the outright title and the no. 1 seed in NY.
First of all in theory conference record is not a consideration of the committee. Obviously it's entirely subjective and people can consider whatever they want, but I don't believe it's on the stat sheet they're provided.
Second of all. Yes Nova is playing for seeding to an extent, but I think they're pretty locked into a 2 seed(They only have 1 top 25 RPI win and only 4 top 50 wins I don't see how you can give them a 1 seed) and playing for seeding is very little motivation especially compared to playing for your NCAA lives. In addition assuming a win tonight Nova will have the BE title locked up before our game so again very little motivation. Nova is also on spring break so there will be less students than usual at the game. Georgetown also has a better record @ Nova under JT3 than it does at home vs. Nova. I would not be surprised by a win @ Nova at all.
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Don't get caught up in this. I don't think Georgetown is going to beat Nova in Philly which means they finish 8-10. They have some very good wins but I find it hard to believe the Committee takes a team with an under .500 record in the BE who lost twice to Seton Hall.
SJU needs to win on Saturday and then do some damage in NY which I think they will.
FYI-I believe Nova clinched a share of the BE crown tonight and with another win clinches the outright title and the no. 1 seed in NY.
First of all in theory conference record is not a consideration of the committee. Obviously it's entirely subjective and people can consider whatever they want, but I don't believe it's on the stat sheet they're provided.
Second of all. Yes Nova is playing for seeding to an extent, but I think they're pretty locked into a 2 seed(They only have 1 top 25 RPI win and only 4 top 50 wins I don't see how you can give them a 1 seed) and playing for seeding is very little motivation especially compared to playing for your NCAA lives. In addition assuming a win tonight Nova will have the BE title locked up before our game so again very little motivation. Nova is also on spring break so there will be less students than usual at the game. Georgetown also has a better record @ Nova under JT3 than it does at home vs. Nova. I would not be surprised by a win @ Nova at all.
As much as it pains me, I have been thinking along these lines too, Hoyahooligan. If your team takes out Nova on their court, I don't think you need more than 1 win in the BET to make the dance.
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Don't get caught up in this. I don't think Georgetown is going to beat Nova in Philly which means they finish 8-10. They have some very good wins but I find it hard to believe the Committee takes a team with an under .500 record in the BE who lost twice to Seton Hall.
SJU needs to win on Saturday and then do some damage in NY which I think they will.
FYI-I believe Nova clinched a share of the BE crown tonight and with another win clinches the outright title and the no. 1 seed in NY.
First of all in theory conference record is not a consideration of the committee. Obviously it's entirely subjective and people can consider whatever they want, but I don't believe it's on the stat sheet they're provided.
Second of all. Yes Nova is playing for seeding to an extent, but I think they're pretty locked into a 2 seed(They only have 1 top 25 RPI win and only 4 top 50 wins I don't see how you can give them a 1 seed) and playing for seeding is very little motivation especially compared to playing for your NCAA lives. In addition assuming a win tonight Nova will have the BE title locked up before our game so again very little motivation. Nova is also on spring break so there will be less students than usual at the game. Georgetown also has a better record @ Nova under JT3 than it does at home vs. Nova. I would not be surprised by a win @ Nova at all.
So you are counting on them ignoring an 8-10 record and Villanova not showing up. Good news...LOL!!!
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BTW-Villanova won the outright BE crown tonight at Xavier.
8-1 on the road is a tremendous job by Jay.
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BTW-Villanova won the outright BE crown tonight at Xavier.
8-1 on the road is a tremendous job by Jay.
Nobody could have done better. Great, great job.
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Purnell coming back;
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/451/article/p2p-79533599/ (http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/451/article/p2p-79533599/)
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Purnell coming back;
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/451/article/p2p-79533599/ (http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/451/article/p2p-79533599/)
Never doubt me....LOL!!!
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And obviously he was the only one from the BE that would be considered in any danger of being fired which means all 10 BE coaches will be returning next year barring something unforeseen.
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Don't get caught up in this. I don't think Georgetown is going to beat Nova in Philly which means they finish 8-10. They have some very good wins but I find it hard to believe the Committee takes a team with an under .500 record in the BE who lost twice to Seton Hall.
SJU needs to win on Saturday and then do some damage in NY which I think they will.
FYI-I believe Nova clinched a share of the BE crown tonight and with another win clinches the outright title and the no. 1 seed in NY.
First of all in theory conference record is not a consideration of the committee. Obviously it's entirely subjective and people can consider whatever they want, but I don't believe it's on the stat sheet they're provided.
Second of all. Yes Nova is playing for seeding to an extent, but I think they're pretty locked into a 2 seed(They only have 1 top 25 RPI win and only 4 top 50 wins I don't see how you can give them a 1 seed) and playing for seeding is very little motivation especially compared to playing for your NCAA lives. In addition assuming a win tonight Nova will have the BE title locked up before our game so again very little motivation. Nova is also on spring break so there will be less students than usual at the game. Georgetown also has a better record @ Nova under JT3 than it does at home vs. Nova. I would not be surprised by a win @ Nova at all.
So you are counting on them ignoring an 8-10 record and Villanova not showing up. Good news...LOL!!!
Evidently no one told Nova not to show up at home today.
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I really thought Nova would be in relax mode and Georgetown would be up for the game. I'm really surprised by the lopsided score.
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I really thought Nova would be in relax mode and Georgetown would be up for the game. I'm really surprised by the lopsided score.
I'm not.
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I really thought Nova would be in relax mode and Georgetown would be up for the game. I'm really surprised by the lopsided score.
I'm not.
Just about all of my predictions this year have been wrong.
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Creighton laying the wood to PC right now in Omaha. Which means SJU officially will finish in a tie for 3rd with Xavier and PC. They lose the tiebreaker and fall to 5th seed because of their 1-3 record combined head to head. Xavier gets the 3rd seed by virtue of going 3-1 and PC gets 4th by going 2-2.
Bottom line is it will be PC/SJU on Thursday in the 4-5 and the only difference in being the 5 as opposed to the 4 is SJU is wearing their road uniforms.
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Creighton laying the wood to PC right now in Omaha. Which means SJU officially will finish in a tie for 3rd with Xavier and PC. They lose the tiebreaker and fall to 5th seed because of their 1-3 record combined head to head. Xavier gets the 3rd seed by virtue of going 3-1 and PC gets 4th by going 2-2.
Bottom line is it will be PC/SJU on Thursday in the 4-5 and the only difference in being the 5 as opposed to the 4 is SJU is wearing their road uniforms.
keep the blue then till we lose
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Hammered PC;
@GaryParrishCBS: Doug McDermott just checked out of his final home game with a career-high 45 points. Pretty cool scene here in Omaha.
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Hammered PC;
@GaryParrishCBS: Doug McDermott just checked out of his final home game with a career-high 45 points. Pretty cool scene here in Omaha.
he hit everything. damn he is good
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Creighton laying the wood to PC right now in Omaha. Which means SJU officially will finish in a tie for 3rd with Xavier and PC. They lose the tiebreaker and fall to 5th seed because of their 1-3 record combined head to head. Xavier gets the 3rd seed by virtue of going 3-1 and PC gets 4th by going 2-2.
Bottom line is it will be PC/SJU on Thursday in the 4-5 and the only difference in being the 5 as opposed to the 4 is SJU is wearing their road uniforms.
keep the blue then till we lose
We also blew a lead and barely escaped with a win, do you really want to test the uniform gods again...they look a little bit too much like Depaul's uniforms to me. Just like Nova's grey uniforms look like GT.
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ALL-BIG EAST FIRST TEAM
*Doug McDermott, Creighton, F, Sr., 6-8, 225, Ames, Iowa
Markel Starks, Georgetown, G, Sr., 6-2, 175, Accokeek, Md.
*Bryce Cotton, Providence, G, Sr., 6-1, 165, Tucson, Ariz.
D’Angelo Harrison, St. John’s, G, Jr., 6-4, 204, Missouri City, Texas
James Bell, Villanova, G, Sr., 6-6, 220, Orlando, Fla.
*Semaj Christon, Xavier, G, So., 6-3, 190, Cincinnati, Ohio
ALL-BIG EAST SECOND TEAM^
Kellen Dunham, Butler, G, So., 6-6, 185, Pendleton, Ind.
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Georgetown, G, So., 6-3, 218, Indianapolis, Ind.
Davante Gardner, Marquette, F, Sr., 6-8, 290, Suffolk, Va.
Kadeem Batts, Providence, F, Sr., 6-9, 245, Boston, Mass.
Fuquan Edwin, Seton Hall, F/G, Sr., 6-6, 215, Paterson, N.J.
JayVaughn Pinkston, Villanova, F, Jr., 6-7, 240, Brooklyn, N.Y.
BIG EAST HONORABLE MENTION
Ethan Wragge, Creighton, F, Sr., 6-7, 225, Eden Prairie, Minn.
Ryan Arcidiacono, Villanova, G, So., 6-3, 195, Langhorne, Pa.
Darrun Hilliard, Villanova, G, Jr., 6-6, 215, Bethlehem, Pa.
Matt Stainbrook, Xavier, C, Jr., 6-10, 263, Bay Village, Ohio
BIG EAST ALL-ROOKIE TEAM^
Andrew Chrabascz, Butler, F, Fr., 6-7, 225, Portsmouth, R.I.
Billy Garrett, Jr., DePaul, G, Fr., 6-5, 194, Chicago, Ill.
Tommy Hamilton IV, DePaul, F, Fr., 6-10, 284, Chicago, Ill.
Deonte Burton, Marquette, F, Fr., 6-4, 230, Milwaukee, Wis.
Rysheed Jordan, St. John’s G, Fr., 6-4, 185, Philadelphia, Pa.
Josh Hart, Villanova, G, Fr., 6-5, 202, Silver Springs, Md.
*Denotes unanimous selection.
^Due to a tie in the voting, an additional position was named.
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ALL-BIG EAST FIRST TEAM
*Doug McDermott, Creighton, F, Sr., 6-8, 225, Ames, Iowa
Markel Starks, Georgetown, G, Sr., 6-2, 175, Accokeek, Md.
*Bryce Cotton, Providence, G, Sr., 6-1, 165, Tucson, Ariz.
D’Angelo Harrison, St. John’s, G, Jr., 6-4, 204, Missouri City, Texas
James Bell, Villanova, G, Sr., 6-6, 220, Orlando, Fla.
*Semaj Christon, Xavier, G, So., 6-3, 190, Cincinnati, Ohio
ALL-BIG EAST SECOND TEAM^
Kellen Dunham, Butler, G, So., 6-6, 185, Pendleton, Ind.
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, Georgetown, G, So., 6-3, 218, Indianapolis, Ind.
Davante Gardner, Marquette, F, Sr., 6-8, 290, Suffolk, Va.
Kadeem Batts, Providence, F, Sr., 6-9, 245, Boston, Mass.
Fuquan Edwin, Seton Hall, F/G, Sr., 6-6, 215, Paterson, N.J.
JayVaughn Pinkston, Villanova, F, Jr., 6-7, 240, Brooklyn, N.Y.
BIG EAST HONORABLE MENTION
Ethan Wragge, Creighton, F, Sr., 6-7, 225, Eden Prairie, Minn.
Ryan Arcidiacono, Villanova, G, So., 6-3, 195, Langhorne, Pa.
Darrun Hilliard, Villanova, G, Jr., 6-6, 215, Bethlehem, Pa.
Matt Stainbrook, Xavier, C, Jr., 6-10, 263, Bay Village, Ohio
BIG EAST ALL-ROOKIE TEAM^
Andrew Chrabascz, Butler, F, Fr., 6-7, 225, Portsmouth, R.I.
Billy Garrett, Jr., DePaul, G, Fr., 6-5, 194, Chicago, Ill.
Tommy Hamilton IV, DePaul, F, Fr., 6-10, 284, Chicago, Ill.
Deonte Burton, Marquette, F, Fr., 6-4, 230, Milwaukee, Wis.
Rysheed Jordan, St. John’s G, Fr., 6-4, 185, Philadelphia, Pa.
Josh Hart, Villanova, G, Fr., 6-5, 202, Silver Springs, Md.
*Denotes unanimous selection.
^Due to a tie in the voting, an additional position was named.
Wragge on third team? Sampson is one kid who could have gotten that nod over him.
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Sampson not making Second Team or Honorable mention is a joke.
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@VUhoops: AP Top 25: Villanova rises to #3 http://t.co/aQvr24Lh0V (http://t.co/aQvr24Lh0V)
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@VUhoops: AP Top 25: Villanova rises to #3 http://t.co/aQvr24Lh0V (http://t.co/aQvr24Lh0V)
Good. Beating no. 3 should put us in without a play in.
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Fun field with a lot of running I would guess;
@BEandBeyond: Villanova will play in the 2014 Legends Classic at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, NY next season with VCU, Michigan, & Oregon.
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Interesting NY Times short piece on initial period of development;
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/sports/ncaabasketball/seeking-an-identity-the-new-big-east-takes-a-familiar-stage.html?ref=sports (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/12/sports/ncaabasketball/seeking-an-identity-the-new-big-east-takes-a-familiar-stage.html?ref=sports)
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Some really bad basketball being played tonight at MSG. SHU holds on to beat Butler 51-50 and Georgetown currently losing to DePaul 22-19 after going about 8 minutes with only 1 basket.
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This was like watching the Tuesday night games in the old Big East.
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@CasualHoya: Per source, Hoyas likely to play Tuesday night in 1st round of NIT at McDonough.
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@CasualHoya: Per source, Hoyas likely to play Tuesday night in 1st round of NIT at McDonough.
Let the fun begin...
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Will be a nice player in time.
@SOrangeJuice: 2014 PF Nathan Ekwu (Cardinal Hayes, NY) will visit Seton Hall this weekend per @NYPost_Brazille, visited Davidson last weekend. #shbb
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Providence 14 recruiting plans;
http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/college/content/20140322-after-a-year-to-savor-pcs-focus-must-be-on-the-future.ece (http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/college/content/20140322-after-a-year-to-savor-pcs-focus-must-be-on-the-future.ece)
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Creighton getting blitzed off the floor in San Antonio by Baylor. Looks like the BE will be shut out of the Sweet 16.
Give Scott Drew some credit at Baylor. Not a huge fan and they started 1-6 in the Big 12 but now have rallied to the Sweet 16.
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Creighton getting blitzed off the floor in San Antonio by Baylor. Looks like the BE will be shut out of the Sweet 16.
Give Scott Drew some credit at Baylor. Not a huge fan and they started 1-6 in the Big 12 but now have rallied to the Sweet 16.
None from BE and 3 from the SEC the conference everyone likes to dump on in basketball. A one seed in Florida, a team that beat an undefeated one seed in Kentucky, and a bubble team who is 3-0 in the T in Tennessee.
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@UndercoverFriar: Providence will travel to Italy this summer to partake in some international competition. Great experience for Ed Cooley & the Friars. #pcbb
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@PaintTouches: Confirmed that Marquette's entire coaching staff, minus Jerry Wainwright, is out. Wainwright staying on board to help w/ transition. #mubb
@PaintTouches: This was an expected move by the assistants, but it still now puts the 2014 recruiting class in jeopardy. Stay tuned. #mubb
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@UndercoverFriar: Providence will travel to Italy this summer to partake in some international competition. Great experience for Ed Cooley & the Friars. #pcbb
Let's see if it takes the Friars until February to "jell".
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Good for him, works hard & had great year;
@UndercoverFriar: Ed Cooley is 1/15 finalists for the Jim Phelan Award, which is awarded to the top D1 coach in the nation. He deserves this in so many ways.
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@Juco_Offers: Creighton has offered Roderick Lawrence (6'5/G/2014) of South Plains.
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Good for him, works hard & had great year;
@UndercoverFriar: Ed Cooley is 1/15 finalists for the Jim Phelan Award, which is awarded to the top D1 coach in the nation. He deserves this in so many ways.
Defiantly! Great run to the end of the season and the. Almost pulled off the upset against UNC.
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I think it was Evan Daniel but somebody tweeted saying they contacted all of MUs incoming recruits and at least 2 are going to reopen their recruitment.
Anyone know who they have coming in and if we have any connections with any of them?
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@PaintTouches: Derrick Wilson said he expects everyone on MU's current roster back next season. #mubb
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Wojo to coach Marquette. Dammit...thats who i wanted as Lavin's replacement.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10708664/marquette-hires-duke-assistant-steve-wojciechowski (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10708664/marquette-hires-duke-assistant-steve-wojciechowski)
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@NickNoskowiak: My family and I have decided what's best for me is to open my recruitment up and keep my options open...I am no longer comitted to Marquette
@WisBBYearbook: Xavier University coach Chris Mack has extended a scholarship offer to Nick Noskowiak ... .http://t.co/31vczYgu0m, (http://t.co/31vczYgu0m,)
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@TheRecruitScoop: Providence forward Brice Kofane will transfer for his 5th year after graduating, per his coach.
No big loss.
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Anybody know anything about Legend Robertin's recruitment? He is a 4 star and an athletic 7 footer, i am praying Lav is working this
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Anybody know anything about Legend Robertin's recruitment? He is a 4 star and an athletic 7 footer, i am praying Lav is working this
Transfered mid season to JUCO Chipola College
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@jerrymeyer247: Expecting Butler to land its transfer target Tyler Lewis. Already visited. At this point, not expecting him to take any other visits.
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http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/07/malek-harris-decommits-from-marquette/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/07/malek-harris-decommits-from-marquette/)
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@MarquetteMBB: #mubb & @steve_wojo welcome Chris Carrawell to the Marquette family as an assistant coach. http://t.co/dbeG3JOOgu (http://t.co/dbeG3JOOgu) http://t.co/rOs98pa5Em (http://t.co/rOs98pa5Em)
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-conn-vincing-case-hoop-champs-rejoin-big-east-article-1.1750178 (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/rubin-conn-vincing-case-hoop-champs-rejoin-big-east-article-1.1750178)
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http://marquettewire.org/2014/04/10/tribune/tribune-sports/wojciechowski-holding-2014-recruiting-class-together/ (http://marquettewire.org/2014/04/10/tribune/tribune-sports/wojciechowski-holding-2014-recruiting-class-together/)
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Very good player who runs with Team Scan;
@ZachFleerLGHL: 2016 North Royalton (OH) PF Omari Spellman has received an offer from Villanova. Coach Jay Wright visited the sophomore in person today.
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@PaintTouches: [New to PT] How did @FOXSports1 affect the Big East this season? #mubb http://t.co/huwpwJka4M (http://t.co/huwpwJka4M)
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@PaintTouches: [New to PT] How did @FOXSports1 affect the Big East this season? #mubb http://t.co/huwpwJka4M (http://t.co/huwpwJka4M)
That's pathetic. The ad is right. St.Johns students are different. They don't care.
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@PaintTouches: [New to PT] How did @FOXSports1 affect the Big East this season? #mubb http://t.co/huwpwJka4M (http://t.co/huwpwJka4M)
That's pathetic. The ad is right. St.Johns students are different. They don't care.
They been bad for 20 years pretty much and this year year was a great disappointment...It's not really shocking. Winning constantly and a school that gives a crap about the program and buzz will be created.
Mac Brown made it to two BCS title games, won one of them and after four years of being mediocre he was pushed out...Norm lasted SIX YEARS and the AD sadly fired him...What would have happened if he actually won a few NIT games?
Lavin I still can't figure out...Inconstancy will not bring cowers especially after 20yrs of suckness.
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@PaintTouches: [New to PT] How did @FOXSports1 affect the Big East this season? #mubb http://t.co/huwpwJka4M (http://t.co/huwpwJka4M)
That's pathetic. The ad is right. St.Johns students are different. They don't care.
They been bad for 20 years pretty much and this year year was a great disappointment...It's not really shocking. Winning constantly and a school that gives a crap about the program and buzz will be created.
Mac Brown made it to two BCS title games, won one of them and after four years of being mediocre he was pushed out...Norm lasted SIX YEARS and the AD sadly fired him...What would have happened if he actually won a few NIT games?
Lavin I still can't figure out...Inconstancy will not bring cowers especially after 20yrs of suckness.
Nudge you've gone from being one of the biggest YESMEN to being one of the harshest critics of the program. I can't figure you out. :)
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@PaintTouches: [New to PT] How did @FOXSports1 affect the Big East this season? #mubb http://t.co/huwpwJka4M (http://t.co/huwpwJka4M)
That's pathetic. The ad is right. St.Johns students are different. They don't care.
They been bad for 20 years pretty much and this year year was a great disappointment...It's not really shocking. Winning constantly and a school that gives a crap about the program and buzz will be created.
Mac Brown made it to two BCS title games, won one of them and after four years of being mediocre he was pushed out...Norm lasted SIX YEARS and the AD sadly fired him...What would have happened if he actually won a few NIT games?
Lavin I still can't figure out...Inconstancy will not bring cowers especially after 20yrs of suckness.
Nudge you've gone from being one of the biggest YESMEN to being one of the harshest critics of the program. I can't figure you out. :)
Hahaha not a yes man...More of a short term pessimist long term optimist. I will always over root for my team and give the benefit of the doubt as long as I feel the program is moving in the right direction... For example not making the NCAA this year was disappointing but I still thought that Lavin was moving in the right direction and supported him coming back. When the program was bleeding players left and right and Lavin was no where to be found maybe getting rid of Lavin now may have better result for the program down the road even if we are bad short term...Right now I don't...Hopefully Lavin righted the ship.
I do think Lavin has the personality for NYC and I want him to succeed, I grew up around SJU and pretty much my entire life and want the school to do well in all areas. I think Harrington let the program rot from the inside out and in the process destroyed NYCs team. It's possible to bring that SJU BB spirit back but it will be very difficult and we need to WIN consistently and be fun to watch. Hopefully we get there...Being an optimist of course :-)
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Lavin can succeed if he makes sure he has a good X and O assistant (maybe Whitesell with more time) and gets back to working hard at what he does best which is recruiting. I too hope he succeeds.
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Lavin can succeed if he makes sure he has a good X and O assistant (maybe Whitesell with more time) and gets back to working hard at what he does best which is recruiting. I too hope he succeeds.
If Lavin can get CO back and get another body, I will be a little more optimistic...Hopefully Whitesell can out together a coherent offense like glimpses in Feb...The whole team needs to eat some humble pie and get over any issues and just play ball this year.
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http://www.vuhoops.com/2014/4/16/5620582/big-east-conference-selects-location-for-headquarters (http://www.vuhoops.com/2014/4/16/5620582/big-east-conference-selects-location-for-headquarters)
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M'Q fallout;
@PaintTouches: So... IN: Sandy Cohen OUT: Marial Shayok, Ahmed Hill UNKNOWN: Satchel Pierce, Malek Harris #mubb
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M'Q fallout;
@PaintTouches: So... IN: Sandy Cohen OUT: Marial Shayok, Ahmed Hill UNKNOWN: Satchel Pierce, Malek Harris #mubb
Ahmed Hill hurts. He was the best of a solid class.
His twitter:
Ahmed Hill @MedHill_14 · 29m
Attention all MU fans!!! I'm truly sorry!! pic.twitter.com/8Yku5scWCe
https://twitter.com/MedHill_14
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Not helpful;
@jeffborzello: Butler freshman Elijah Brown is transferring from the school.
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@NikeHead_Vonte: Per @JonRothstein ,Georgetown head coach John Thompson III expects to have Josh Smith back next season
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24536087/georgetown-expects-to-have-josh-smith-for-2014-15?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24536087/georgetown-expects-to-have-josh-smith-for-2014-15?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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Not helpful;
@jeffborzello: Butler freshman Elijah Brown is transferring from the school.
Good player, and wise move by him. With Kellen Dunham and Roosevelt Jones around for two more years and the Indiana grad transfer, it meant reduced role until his senior season.
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@GoodmanESPN: Marquette has landed a commitment from BYU graduate transfer Matt Carlino, a source told ESPN. Eligible to play this coming season.
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RT @GoodmanESPN: Marquette has landed a commitment from BYU graduate transfer Matt Carlino, who is eligible to play this coming season.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: Big commitment for Butler, landing Jackson Davis. Good for Big East, too.” #BIGEAST
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Georgetown lands Noah Dickerson, 2015 big man. Very nice pickup:
Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello · 28m
Top-50 junior big Noah Dickerson. RT @NDickerson41: Proud to say I committed to Georgetown University #hoyasaxa
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@CBTonNBC: Georgetown nabs four-star 2015 forward Noah Dickerson http://t.co/iGZI0LoSaC (http://t.co/iGZI0LoSaC)
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And Xavier adds a nice late piece when guard Larry Austin, former UT commit who got released after Cuonzo Martin left for Cal, has committed to Xavier.
Providence was trying to push on him as well. PC has been trying desperately to find a PG late going after Terrell, Austin, Graham, Elijah Stewart with little luck.
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/xaviersports/2014/05/10/larry-austin-jr-commits-to-xavier/8941007/ (http://www.cincinnati.com/story/xaviersports/2014/05/10/larry-austin-jr-commits-to-xavier/8941007/)
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@JonRothstein: Xavier has extended the contract of @CoachChrisMack through the 2019-20 season, per the school.
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JT III working on another stud big man;
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff)
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JT III working on another stud big man;
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff)
Yet when we get a big some of our fans think OK now we don't need anyone over 5'7 for the next 4 years!
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JT III working on another stud big man;
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff)
Yet when we get a big some of our fans think OK now we don't need anyone over 5'7 for the next 4 years!
Who? Like seriously Celts, who has ever said anything like that?
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JT III working on another stud big man;
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff)
Yet when we get a big some of our fans think OK now we don't need anyone over 5'7 for the next 4 years!
Who? Like seriously Celts, who has ever said anything like that?
As soon as we got Thomas some said we don't need anymore bigs for next season yet even Lavin stated we need another big and a wing (said last week when he visited the WFAN as was reported). I wouldn't count 6'6 CJ as a big or do I think you can count on ADR next season, I would have liked another big for next season even if it was the Martin or Jones kids we were recruiting. G'town already as 7 new bigs committed in this class and next that are 4 stars or better and are hard after Rabb. Guess they think 8 bigs are enough while some of our fans think 2 are enough or at least count a 6'6 non rebounder and an admittedly out of shape big who averaged a whopping 12 pts at the HS level when he was by far the biggest kid in his league. If he is on the court next season we are outmanned at his position against almost everyone we play.
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Who did Lavin talk to at WFAN last week?
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JT III working on another stud big man;
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/5/19/5729702/2015-ivan-rabb-talks-georgetown-and-also-about-some-more-stuff)
Yet when we get a big some of our fans think OK now we don't need anyone over 5'7 for the next 4 years!
Is be willing to best most consider diallo a make it break recruit for Lavin. We have some pieces now but can still use an elite big man it two in 15.
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14 recruiting synopsis;
http://www.vuhoops.com/big-east-news/2014/5/29/5713982/2014-big-east-conference-incoming-recruits (http://www.vuhoops.com/big-east-news/2014/5/29/5713982/2014-big-east-conference-incoming-recruits)
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Envious of stability & continuity at Nova;
http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/06/villanovas-booth-anxious-to-get-to-work-at-guard-u/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/06/villanovas-booth-anxious-to-get-to-work-at-guard-u/)
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Envious of stability & continuity at Nova;
http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/06/villanovas-booth-anxious-to-get-to-work-at-guard-u/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/06/villanovas-booth-anxious-to-get-to-work-at-guard-u/)
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Envious of stability & continuity at Nova;
http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/06/villanovas-booth-anxious-to-get-to-work-at-guard-u/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2014/06/villanovas-booth-anxious-to-get-to-work-at-guard-u/)
I think we can enjoy the same here in time. It took Wright a while to get going there.
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@JonRothstein: Georgetown and Indiana will play a neutral site game at Madison Square Garden on Saturday December 27th, 2014, sources told @CBSSports.
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The Big East has tabled any expansion talk and clearly won’t be growing beyond 10 members anytime soon. The reasons are simple: 10 is the perfect basketball scheduling number, the 10-member Big 12 has shown that that number of schools can work splendidly in hoops, and TV partner Fox isn’t demanding any change in inventory.
What PC’s Driscoll says the league is planning on doing is juicing up Fox’s offerings in the nonconference portion of the season. The recently announced Gavitt Tipoff series with the Big Ten is a great start, and sources said Fox was working to broker a similar partnership between the Pac 12 and Big East.
“Instead of expanding, we want to emphasize playing more high-profile games that will help us with TV and get more teams into the NCAA Tournament,” Driscoll said.
The Big East isn’t too small to succeed in basketball. It just had a very average first season with only four teams — Villanova, Creighton, Xavier, PC — making the NCAA Tournament.
But Georgetown and Marquette won’t stay down for long. The 10-school Big 12 offered the perfect template last season by finishing first in the RPI with seven top-50 teams and earning seven NCAA bids.
http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/content/20140607-kevin-mcnamara-rhodys-instrastate-schools-maintaining-their-distance-in-basketball.ece (http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/content/20140607-kevin-mcnamara-rhodys-instrastate-schools-maintaining-their-distance-in-basketball.ece)
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Why would schools stay if the league isn't looking to improve itself?
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By bolstering the non conference portion of the schedule to play better programs, isn't the league trying to do just that?
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Why would schools stay if the league isn't looking to improve itself?
It seems the opinion of Fox and the Big East is that expanding will not improve, but rather just depreciate the conference. They stated they look to improve the conference by improving the non-con schedules, improving revenue and the chance of big wins.
So the answer to your question is that they will stay because the league is looking to improve itself.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
I made a chart for the 10 best conferences (the 10 multi-bid leagues) using % tourney teams, Conference RPI, RPI sub-150 teams (cupcake wins), and the conference record in NCAA tourney (win %). I then awarded points on a 1-10 scale for each conference's ranking in each category. These were the results:
1. Big 10 - 36.5 pts
2. Big 12 - 31.5
3. Pac 12 -30
4. SEC - 23.5
5. Big East - 22
6. ACC - 21
7. AAC - 19.5
8. A-10 - 17.5
9. MWC - 12
10. WCC - 6.5
For the most part that's how I see it. The biggest surprise to me was the SEC and the A-10. The SEC performed well in the tourney and only had two sub150 teams, while the A-10 had a poor tourney showing and had the second most sub150 teams. 5, 6, and 7 are pretty interchangeable - especially if you're in the crowd who thinks SMU was snubbed. I'd post the chart but it was handwritten and i feel like it'd be a pain in the ass to post.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
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Fwiw, I would have the Big East at 8
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Not that it matters, because I just want to see SJU play well. I would be fine if we became Gonzaga or Witchita State of the east coast. It's nice if the conference is good, but that's not my priority.
That said I think the BE is about tied with the AAC for 6th. With Lousiville leaving the AAC, they won't be tied for long.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
I made a chart for the 10 best conferences (the 10 multi-bid leagues) using % tourney teams, Conference RPI, RPI sub-150 teams (cupcake wins), and the conference record in NCAA tourney (win %). I then awarded points on a 1-10 scale for each conference's ranking in each category. These were the results:
1. Big 10 - 36.5 pts
2. Big 12 - 31.5
3. Pac 12 -30
4. SEC - 23.5
5. Big East - 22
6. ACC - 21
7. AAC - 19.5
8. A-10 - 17.5
9. MWC - 12
10. WCC - 6.5
For the most part that's how I see it. The biggest surprise to me was the SEC and the A-10. The SEC performed well in the tourney and only had two sub150 teams, while the A-10 had a poor tourney showing and had the second most sub150 teams. 5, 6, and 7 are pretty interchangeable - especially if you're in the crowd who thinks SMU was snubbed. I'd post the chart but it was handwritten and i feel like it'd be a pain in the ass to post.
thats great work logan!
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Not that it matters, because I just want to see SJU play well. I would be fine if we became Gonzaga or Witchita State of the east coast. It's nice if the conference is good, but that's not my priority.
That said I think the BE is about tied with the AAC for 6th. With Lousiville leaving the AAC, they won't be tied for long.
I suppose, gun to my head, I'd accept the lowly accomplishments of Wichita State or Gonzaga as our own.
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Do you think ? I do, but barely.
Hey Marco, I fixed your post for you. ;)
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
That was your takeaway? Skillful deflection.
To answer your question, I do not see an objective way that one could rank it lower than 6th. At this moment. How did you arrive at 8th? It doesn't sound like you are basing it on RPI, KenPom, NCAA bid %, SOS, incoming talent, etc.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
That was your takeaway? Skillful deflection.
To answer your question, I do not see an objective way that one could rank it lower than 6th. At this moment. How did you arrive at 8th? It doesn't sound like you are basing it on RPI, KenPom, NCAA bid %, SOS, incoming talent, etc.
Easy....
1. MAAC
2. MAAC
3. MAAC
4. MAAC
5. MAAC
6. MAAC
7. MAAC
8. BE
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Another guy who has zero to add. 1 guy says I have an agenda, the other refers to the MAAC in every post. Boys, Try growing a penis
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
That was your takeaway? Skillful deflection.
To answer your question, I do not see an objective way that one could rank it lower than 6th. At this moment. How did you arrive at 8th? It doesn't sound like you are basing it on RPI, KenPom, NCAA bid %, SOS, incoming talent, etc.
So this coming year, you think Big East is 6th?
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
That was your takeaway? Skillful deflection.
To answer your question, I do not see an objective way that one could rank it lower than 6th. At this moment. How did you arrive at 8th? It doesn't sound like you are basing it on RPI, KenPom, NCAA bid %, SOS, incoming talent, etc.
So this coming year, you think Big East is 6th?
Possibly better. Again, how did you arrive at 8th?
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
That was your takeaway? Skillful deflection.
To answer your question, I do not see an objective way that one could rank it lower than 6th. At this moment. How did you arrive at 8th? It doesn't sound like you are basing it on RPI, KenPom, NCAA bid %, SOS, incoming talent, etc.
So this coming year, you think Big East is 6th?
Possibly better. Again, how did you arrive at 8th?
Creighton and Providence are taking huge steps back. Xavier isn't scaring anybody. Top 3 in the conference IMO will be Nova, Seton Hall and STJohns. How many of these teams are top 25?
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thats great work logan!
Thanks, appreciate it.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
That was your takeaway? Skillful deflection.
To answer your question, I do not see an objective way that one could rank it lower than 6th. At this moment. How did you arrive at 8th? It doesn't sound like you are basing it on RPI, KenPom, NCAA bid %, SOS, incoming talent, etc.
So this coming year, you think Big East is 6th?
Possibly better. Again, how did you arrive at 8th?
Creighton and Providence are taking huge steps back. Xavier isn't scaring anybody. Top 3 in the conference IMO will be Nova, Seton Hall and STJohns. How many of these teams are top 25?
So number of teams in the top 25 is the primary factor in your ranking? That could account for you valuing conferences like the AAC and SEC ahead of the BE. Not unreasonable, but I think there are better ways to evaluate a conference relative to other conferences. But then it would indicate a huge drop in your system for those conferences with no top 25 teams. Surprising from a mid major fan
I'd guess 2 top 25 teams with 3 others in the next 15-25 all year. I expect 70% of the conference to be in the mix for an NCAA bid with 4-5 actually getting them.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
That was your takeaway? Skillful deflection.
To answer your question, I do not see an objective way that one could rank it lower than 6th. At this moment. How did you arrive at 8th? It doesn't sound like you are basing it on RPI, KenPom, NCAA bid %, SOS, incoming talent, etc.
So this coming year, you think Big East is 6th?
Possibly better. Again, how did you arrive at 8th?
Creighton and Providence are taking huge steps back. Xavier isn't scaring anybody. Top 3 in the conference IMO will be Nova, Seton Hall and STJohns. How many of these teams are top 25?
So number of teams in the top 25 is the primary factor in your ranking? That could account for you valuing conferences like the AAC and SEC ahead of the BE. Not unreasonable, but I think there are better ways to evaluate a conference relative to other conferences. But then it would indicate a huge drop in your system for those conferences with no top 25 teams. Surprising from a mid major fan
I'd guess 2 top 25 teams with 3 others in the next 15-25 all year. I expect 70% of the conference to be in the mix for an NCAA bid with 4-5 actually getting them.
It's all opinion, a ton of ways to look at it.
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I prefer more objective means, but I agree that it's all opinion at this stage. Let's stop repeatedly posting leading questions on the subject this offseason. I think we can agree that the big east has challenges in its current form but its teams are positioned well (especially financially) for success at the highest level.
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Do you think the big east is a top 10 conference? I do, but barely.
It is top 6 by all measurements. Even if you use NCAA bids last year as your sole metric, only 5 conferences put more teams in (in absolute terms, not as percentage of conference membership). You are the only poster to repeat this over and over again, and your agenda is obvious. I am absolutely fine with a conference that is 6th in the country in a "down" year.
So you think the conference will be better this year?
That was your takeaway? Skillful deflection.
To answer your question, I do not see an objective way that one could rank it lower than 6th. At this moment. How did you arrive at 8th? It doesn't sound like you are basing it on RPI, KenPom, NCAA bid %, SOS, incoming talent, etc.
So this coming year, you think Big East is 6th?
Possibly better. Again, how did you arrive at 8th?
Creighton and Providence are taking huge steps back. Xavier isn't scaring anybody. Top 3 in the conference IMO will be Nova, Seton Hall and STJohns. How many of these teams are top 25?
I think the BE will have at a minimum 2 top 25 teams in Nova and Georgetown most of the year like Nova and Creighton last year. I think Xavier, Providence, Seton Hall, and St. John's all have the potential to break into the top 25 at points as well. And that's the order I have the teams as well.
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Seton Hall? I guess you guys think that Whitehead is going to be an immediate impact player, and same with Delgado (assuming he ends up there). I think Sina will be a nice role player in time, but unless Whitehead or Delgado are really good freshman, or Mobley steps up like some thought he would this year, Gibbs is going to need A LOT of help.
I think Nova, then some combination of Georgetown/St. John's/Xavier. Providence if it picks up some guys in the transfer game. Henton is the most underrated player in the conference IMO, Dunn will be back and Green will probably be better, but they lost a lot in Cotton, Fortune and Batts.
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Fwiw, I would have the Big East at 8
Well, the Beast was at #4 for Conference RPI on CBS Sports:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/conference (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/conference)
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Seton Hall? I guess you guys think that Whitehead is going to be an immediate impact player, and same with Delgado (assuming he ends up there). I think Sina will be a nice role player in time, but unless Whitehead or Delgado are really good freshman, or Mobley steps up like some thought he would this year, Gibbs is going to need A LOT of help.
I think Nova, then some combination of Georgetown/St. John's/Xavier. Providence if it picks up some guys in the transfer game. Henton is the most underrated player in the conference IMO, Dunn will be back and Green will probably be better, but they lost a lot in Cotton, Fortune and Batts.
Whitehead is a 5 star recruit it'd be much more surprising if he wasn't really good than if he was like you seem to be implying.
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Seton Hall? I guess you guys think that Whitehead is going to be an immediate impact player, and same with Delgado (assuming he ends up there). I think Sina will be a nice role player in time, but unless Whitehead or Delgado are really good freshman, or Mobley steps up like some thought he would this year, Gibbs is going to need A LOT of help.
I think Nova, then some combination of Georgetown/St. John's/Xavier. Providence if it picks up some guys in the transfer game. Henton is the most underrated player in the conference IMO, Dunn will be back and Green will probably be better, but they lost a lot in Cotton, Fortune and Batts.
Whitehead is a 5 star recruit it'd be much more surprising if he wasn't really good than if he was like you seem to be implying.
I have every expectation that he'll be very good. There's no reason to believe he won't be. Yet. The only thing that I think will hold him back this coming season is the lack of proven talent on Seton Hall's roster. Who do they have? Say Whitehead can come right in, and produce as well as Edwin did as a senior. Wouldn't they still lose 20 games?
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@GaryParrishCBS: Former Big East rivals Georgetown and Syracuse have reached a deal on a four-year home-and-home series that starts in 2015-16.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/99257/wright-is-the-opposite-of-what-people-think (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/99257/wright-is-the-opposite-of-what-people-think)
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Whitehead looks about as college ready as you can be. I think he steps right in and will be a leading candidate for BEROY. Gibbs is coming into his own and Sina developed nicely at the end of last year. Add Delgado and I think Seton Hall is the sleeper team to finish in the top 3 in the conference next year.
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Hoya I think he'll be a very good freshman -- wasn't suggesting otherwise. But do I think he'll be first team all-conference? I don't. And I think for Seton Hall to be top 3 he'll have to play at that level.
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Whitehead looks about as college ready as you can be. I think he steps right in and will be a leading candidate for BEROY. Gibbs is coming into his own and Sina developed nicely at the end of last year. Add Delgado and I think Seton Hall is the sleeper team to finish in the top 3 in the conference next year.
Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina is not top 3...maybe a team that makes team work on certain nights but not top 3
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Seton Hall? I guess you guys think that Whitehead is going to be an immediate impact player, and same with Delgado (assuming he ends up there). I think Sina will be a nice role player in time, but unless Whitehead or Delgado are really good freshman, or Mobley steps up like some thought he would this year, Gibbs is going to need A LOT of help.
I think Nova, then some combination of Georgetown/St. John's/Xavier. Providence if it picks up some guys in the transfer game. Henton is the most underrated player in the conference IMO, Dunn will be back and Green will probably be better, but they lost a lot in Cotton, Fortune and Batts.
Whitehead is a 5 star recruit it'd be much more surprising if he wasn't really good than if he was like you seem to be implying.
I have every expectation that he'll be very good. There's no reason to believe he won't be. Yet. The only thing that I think will hold him back this coming season is the lack of proven talent on Seton Hall's roster. Who do they have? Say Whitehead can come right in, and produce as well as Edwin did as a senior. Wouldn't they still lose 20 games?
Exactly, let's not forget they lose 4 of their top 5 players including their top guard, their top wing and their top 2 bigs plus Geraminpoor. Only Whitehead was a treasured recruit outside the metro NYC area. Plenty of 5 star recruits have entered the fray and played well but not their teams due to overall team talent and depth.
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Whitehead looks about as college ready as you can be. I think he steps right in and will be a leading candidate for BEROY. Gibbs is coming into his own and Sina developed nicely at the end of last year. Add Delgado and I think Seton Hall is the sleeper team to finish in the top 3 in the conference next year.
Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina is not top 3...maybe a team that makes team work on certain nights but not top 3
Is Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina much worse than Harrison, Jordan, Branch(or Greene)?
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I think that group is a pretty far drop if Jordan plays as I think he will next year
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Whitehead looks about as college ready as you can be. I think he steps right in and will be a leading candidate for BEROY. Gibbs is coming into his own and Sina developed nicely at the end of last year. Add Delgado and I think Seton Hall is the sleeper team to finish in the top 3 in the conference next year.
Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina is not top 3...maybe a team that makes team work on certain nights but not top 3
Is Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina much worse than Harrison, Jordan, Branch(or Greene)?
Much worse? no. Would you or I take those three over st johns three? I doubt it. Gibbs is a real solid player but I wouldnt take him over harrison ever. Whitehead has yet to play a game but have no doubt he will be a really really good college player, Rysheed on the other hand has already got a year under his belt and the potential to explode. Sina is a solid third guard and I might take him over phil, but would much rather have branch.
Is gtowns backcourt better than either?
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Whitehead looks about as college ready as you can be. I think he steps right in and will be a leading candidate for BEROY. Gibbs is coming into his own and Sina developed nicely at the end of last year. Add Delgado and I think Seton Hall is the sleeper team to finish in the top 3 in the conference next year.
Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina is not top 3...maybe a team that makes team work on certain nights but not top 3
Is Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina much worse than Harrison, Jordan, Branch(or Greene)?
Not as good...and Whitehead is a freshmen...Jordan (and most freshmen) struggle...only top 5 freshmen dominate...he is not going to dominate
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Whitehead looks about as college ready as you can be. I think he steps right in and will be a leading candidate for BEROY. Gibbs is coming into his own and Sina developed nicely at the end of last year. Add Delgado and I think Seton Hall is the sleeper team to finish in the top 3 in the conference next year.
Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina is not top 3...maybe a team that makes team work on certain nights but not top 3
Is Whitehead, Gibbs, Sina much worse than Harrison, Jordan, Branch(or Greene)?
Much worse? no. Would you or I take those three over st johns three? I doubt it. Gibbs is a real solid player but I wouldnt take him over harrison ever. Whitehead has yet to play a game but have no doubt he will be a really really good college player, Rysheed on the other hand has already got a year under his belt and the potential to explode. Sina is a solid third guard and I might take him over phil, but would much rather have branch.
Is gtowns backcourt better than either?
Well right I worded the question because yes Seton Hall's is worse that St. John's, but I don't think there's a huge drop off. I mean obviously no one can KNOW since players improve in the off season and who knows for sure how freshman will perform. Jordan could come back and be considerably better than he was last year which was pretty good or he could just make an incremental improvement. Sina was a freshman too and could make a considerable leap as well( not that those players are on the same level).
As for our back court I obviously would take DSR over any other of the players and I think Jabril, Peak, and Campbell will make a formidable back court. And with what we have at SF, PF, and C I like where we sit.
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You take DSR over Harrison? I think they are comparable players. However, D-Lo has never played with a guard as good as Starks. I think Jordan can get there, but Starks was a really good player for you guys.
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You take DSR over Harrison? I think they are comparable players. However, D-Lo has never played with a guard as good as Starks. I think Jordan can get there, but Starks was a really good player for you guys.
DSR over Harrison? THe question is DSR over Jordan...Jordan is much better athlete...if Jordan improves consistency of his jumper and confidence develops, DSR vs. Jordan is no walkover
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Smart move by WoJo;
@jerrymeyer247: Minnesota transfer Wally Ellenson tweeted that he will play basketball at Marquette. Brother of 2015 5-star Henry Ellenson
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@_robanderson: Stu Jackson named Senior Associate Commissioner, Men’s Basketball for @BIGEAST. Had been @NBA's ex-Executive Vice President, Basketball Ops.
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Nice review of Butler for upcoming season from Creighton blog;
https://creighton.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1663262
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@PaintTouches: Source confirms to PT that Todd Mayo is no longer with the Marquette program. @RealGM reported first. #mubb
@PaintTouches: Mayo will pursue a professional career, likely to sign with D-League with hopes of entering name in next year's NBA Draft. #mubb
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@PaintTouches: Source confirms to PT that Todd Mayo is no longer with the Marquette program. @RealGM reported first. #mubb
@PaintTouches: Mayo will pursue a professional career, likely to sign with D-League with hopes of entering name in next year's NBA Draft. #mubb
Man its been a tough stretch for them. Will allow young guards to develop though.
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BE 14 recruiting breakdown for all teams;
http://m.bigeast.com/m/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/063014aaa.html (http://m.bigeast.com/m/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/063014aaa.html)
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@jmverlin: Turns out Villanova is playing VCU in the Legends Classic semifinals, Nov. 24 at Barclays: http://t.co/tUGXl893NT (http://t.co/tUGXl893NT)
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@bluejaybanter: Tonight, we continue our Big East basketball preview with a look at @StJohnsBBall -- we'll be joined by Red Storm head coach @SJUCoachLavin.
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http://www.coxhub.com/articles/big-east-ranking-the-incoming-classes?utm_content=7271002&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter (http://www.coxhub.com/articles/big-east-ranking-the-incoming-classes?utm_content=7271002&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
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http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/8/27/6071335/roosevelt-jones-return-will-be-a-welcome-sight-for-butler (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2014/8/27/6071335/roosevelt-jones-return-will-be-a-welcome-sight-for-butler)
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@HolyLandofHoops: According to @KevinMcNamara33 - Sporting News hoops preview predicts Top 4 #bigeast teams as Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, and Providence.
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@HolyLandofHoops: According to @KevinMcNamara33 - Sporting News hoops preview predicts Top 4 #bigeast teams as Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, and Providence.
Nova and GTown I get, but didn't Xavier lose Christian? And didn't Providence lose 4 starters? Lotta faith in Cooley.
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@HolyLandofHoops: According to @KevinMcNamara33 - Sporting News hoops preview predicts Top 4 #bigeast teams as Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, and Providence.
Basically Georgetown, Xavier, Providence, St. John's and Seton Hall I think are those contending for 2-6 and NCAA bids.
Nova and GTown I get, but didn't Xavier lose Christian? And didn't Providence lose 4 starters? Lotta faith in Cooley.
I think it's mostly because Georgetown, Xavier, and Providence brought in the top 3 recruiting classes in the big east this year, plus both Xavier and PC made the tournament last year. Xavier lost Christian and Martin but return everyone else and brought in a great recruiting class, PC lost 3 starters, but brought in a very good recruiting class and will no longer have 0 bench like they did last year. They're certainly reasonable picks.
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@HolyLandofHoops: According to @KevinMcNamara33 - Sporting News hoops preview predicts Top 4 #bigeast teams as Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, and Providence.
Basically Georgetown, Xavier, Providence, St. John's and Seton Hall I think are those contending for 2-6 and NCAA bids.
Nova and GTown I get, but didn't Xavier lose Christian? And didn't Providence lose 4 starters? Lotta faith in Cooley.
I think it's mostly because Georgetown, Xavier, and Providence brought in the top 3 recruiting classes in the big east this year, plus both Xavier and PC made the tournament last year. Xavier lost Christian and Martin but return everyone else and brought in a great recruiting class, PC lost 3 starters, but brought in a very good recruiting class and will no longer have 0 bench like they did last year. They're certainly reasonable picks.
He picked Georgetown what 6th and Blue Jays 4th
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Nice pick up by Marquette, 2015 SG;
http://247sports.com/Player/Haanif-Cheatham-24281 (http://247sports.com/Player/Haanif-Cheatham-24281)
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As expected;
@phillipshoops: Stevenson 2015 point guard Jalen Brunson has committed to Villanova.
Great get by Wright
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DP is such a mess.
@JonRothstein: DePaul has dismissed Charles McKinney for a violation of team rules, per the school. Would have been potential starter.
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Yeah Purnell is going to have to pull a rabbit out of the hat to survive past this year.
Boy DePaul is going to have to eat a lot of money in that buyout.
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DP is such a mess.
@JonRothstein: DePaul has dismissed Charles McKinney for a violation of team rules, per the school. Would have been potential starter.
He has been charged with 3 counts of battery, after an altercation with campus security:
http://wgntv.com/2014/09/10/depaul-basketball-player-off-the-team-after-battery-charges/ (http://wgntv.com/2014/09/10/depaul-basketball-player-off-the-team-after-battery-charges/)
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http://www.bigeast.com/genrel/092914aaa.html (http://www.bigeast.com/genrel/092914aaa.html)
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Did anybody else notice that Georgetown has a game at MSG again thus season?
They play Indiana, except this year I don't think it's part of any double header.
Troubling trend.
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Did anybody else notice that Georgetown has a game at MSG again thus season?
They play Indiana, except this year I don't think it's part of any double header.
Troubling trend.
Yeah, MSG is becoming less of a recruiting factor with everyone and his mother playing there. Not to mention our poor crowds. The only solution is winning and attracting strong, loud crowds like that Hardy/Pitt game. Lately for the most part the MSG atmosphere for our games has been mediocre at best. The big question is when will SJU get back on a winning track on a consistent basis to get attendance to a solid level?
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Did anybody else notice that Georgetown has a game at MSG again thus season?
They play Indiana, except this year I don't think it's part of any double header.
Troubling trend.
Yeah, MSG is becoming less of a recruiting factor with everyone and his mother playing there. Not to mention our poor crowds. The only solution is winning and attracting strong, loud crowds like that Hardy/Pitt game. Lately for the most part the MSG atmosphere for our games has been mediocre at best. The big question is when will SJU get back on a winning track on a consistent basis to get attendance to a solid level?
Exactly right. I don't fault MSG for scheduling games they can sell. Although it is a little slick on Georgetown's part to try to play on our home court every season.
But ultimately it's on us to make SJU games an in-demand event.
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Did anybody else notice that Georgetown has a game at MSG again thus season?
They play Indiana, except this year I don't think it's part of any double header.
Troubling trend.
Yeah, MSG is becoming less of a recruiting factor with everyone and his mother playing there. Not to mention our poor crowds. The only solution is winning and attracting strong, loud crowds like that Hardy/Pitt game. Lately for the most part the MSG atmosphere for our games has been mediocre at best. The big question is when will SJU get back on a winning track on a consistent basis to get attendance to a solid level?
Exactly right. I don't fault MSG for scheduling games they can sell. Although it is a little slick on Georgetown's part to try to play on our home court every season.
But ultimately it's on us to make SJU games an in-demand event.
Sorry I'm not sorry.
1) Georgetown has a ton of Alumni in NYC (duh everyone does, but it's the #2 city for GU alums after DC), plus it's great exposure.
2) Georgetown Will have played a game at MSG besides vs. St. John's or the BET 4 out of the last 6 years and 6 total games in NYC in that time outside of the BET and vs. St. John's with us playing 2 games at Barclays 2 years ago in addition to playing Texas in MSG that year. That year the Hoyas played 6 games in NYC including St. Johns and the BET. St. John's played 10 in those 2 arenas that year.
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I actually don't mind the Big East schools sharing MSG. It can only help the league overall. We have to do our part and win.
To add, I'd love to see Creighton play more at the Garden. Their fans are very loyal and will travel (as evidenced by last year's BET)
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Paultz agree we want better crowds, but I do think it still has a factor in recruiting, as every recruit seems to mention MSG as a positive.
Also, I don't believe we need to sell out the Garden for attendance to be deemed "solid". 8k-10k with energy makes for a pretty good environment. Most college teams would not sell out the Garden at its full capacity.
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Paultz agree we want better crowds, but I do think it still has a factor in recruiting, as every recruit seems to mention MSG as a positive.
Also, I don't believe we need to sell out the Garden for attendance to be deemed "solid". 8k-10k with energy makes for a pretty good environment. Most college teams would not sell out the Garden at its full capacity.
Agree "solid" does not connote sold out.
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I actually don't mind the Big East schools sharing MSG. It can only help the league overall. We have to do our part and win.
To add, I'd love to see Creighton play more at the Garden. Their fans are very loyal and will travel (as evidenced by last year's BET)
If every team can play games at MSG whenever they want, then we lose a big recruiting pitch for local kids. Why stay home and play for SJU if Georgetown has 5 games a year at the garden?
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I actually don't mind the Big East schools sharing MSG. It can only help the league overall. We have to do our part and win.
To add, I'd love to see Creighton play more at the Garden. Their fans are very loyal and will travel (as evidenced by last year's BET)
If every team can play games at MSG whenever they want, then we lose a big recruiting pitch for local kids. Why stay home and play for SJU if Georgetown has 5 games a year at the garden?
+largest number possible
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I'm actually suprise this has not happend sooner.
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@ReggieRankin: Breaking News: Henry Ellenson has informed @ESPNRNHoops he is headed to Marquette Story and Scout's Take on the way. http://t.co/5YX8d8FG9v (http://t.co/5YX8d8FG9v)
Big get!!
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/henry-ellenson-to-marquette/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/henry-ellenson-to-marquette/)
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Nice for Marquette and the league. Local kid stays home even though Kentucky's knocking. Hopefully IB does the same.
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@JonRothstein: Duke, Wisconsin, Georgetown, and VCU will headline the 2015 2K Sports Classic at MSG, multiple sources told @CBSSports. Story coming.
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http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/24/former-big-east-foes-announce-home-and-home-series/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/24/former-big-east-foes-announce-home-and-home-series/)
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Xavier in my opinion will be in top three in BE, well coached, some savy veterans & maybe top newcomer ;
@NewBigEastConf: #BigEast and #Xavier have to be excited about Trevon Bluiett's ridiculous debut: http://t.co/OqN0UWmkWA (http://t.co/OqN0UWmkWA)
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@FOXSports1: HALFTIME: @GeorgetownHoops tied with Texas A&M-Corpus Christian at 34-34 on #FOXSports2.
Joshua Smith: 10 points for the Hoyas. #BIGEAST
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@becb_sbn: Xavier soundly defeats Long Beach State 93-74. #LetsGoX
These guys will be in top three in BE for sure Imo. Bluitt is a stud.
@slrussell: .@TrevonBluiett led #Xavier with 20 points, a team-best 8 reb and 5 assists. Macura (17 pts), M. Davis (15), Abell (13), Stainbrook (11).
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Creighton playing Oklahoma tough. Tied with 1:40 to go on FS1
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Creighton playing Oklahoma tough. Tied with 1:40 to go on FS1
Good win for the BE
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Villanova tied up with Bucknell in the 2nd half.
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Probably best newcomer in BE;
@JeffEisenberg: Xavier freshman Trevon Bluiett is off to a half-decent start. How about 18 ppg, 5.3 rpg and a 7-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio?
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Probably best newcomer in BE;
@JeffEisenberg: Xavier freshman Trevon Bluiett is off to a half-decent start. How about 18 ppg, 5.3 rpg and a 7-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio?
Do stats have any meaning at this point? He had 7 assists and one T/O in three November games against non BE/ACC level competition.
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Probably best newcomer in BE;
@JeffEisenberg: Xavier freshman Trevon Bluiett is off to a half-decent start. How about 18 ppg, 5.3 rpg and a 7-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio?
Do stats have any meaning at this point? He had 7 assists and one T/O in three November games against non BE/ACC level competition.
He is a SF who coaches around the BE have noted is a steal for Xavier. Not saying anything is proven yet, but it seems likely he will be a top newcomer. For a kid who takes it to the hoop, he takes care of the ball. If he was on SJU I suspect we would be giddy about his prospects. Oh well. Btw, he had 16 points with no TOs v. solid Steven Austin team last night & is averaging 18 points a game on a good team with experience.
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They aren't Big East anymore, but it's nice to see Pitt suffer an embarrassing loss to Hawaii last night. Cal housed SU, and then the Orange barely got by Iowa. May there be no end to their suffering.
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Kid on Xavier is a stud.
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Probably best newcomer in BE;
@JeffEisenberg: Xavier freshman Trevon Bluiett is off to a half-decent start. How about 18 ppg, 5.3 rpg and a 7-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio?
Do stats have any meaning at this point? He had 7 assists and one T/O in three November games against non BE/ACC level competition.
He is a SF who coaches around the BE have noted is a steal for Xavier. Not saying anything is proven yet, but it seems likely he will be a top newcomer. For a kid who takes it to the hoop, he takes care of the ball. If he was on SJU I suspect we would be giddy about his prospects. Oh well. Btw, he had 16 points with no TOs v. solid Steven Austin team last night & is averaging 18 points a game on a good team with experience.
I don't doubt he's a good freshmen player. Eisenberg using the stats at this point is questionable.
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Maquette lost to Omaha at home, rough loss for them. Providence crushed Florida State.
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For PC, Chris Dunn, 16 pts, 9 assists. Henton huge too.( 24 & 10 rebounds)
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Forget who on this board was mocking Henton, but he is a really really good player and top 5 in the conference (or around there) IMO.
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Forget who on this board was mocking Henton, but he is a really really good player and top 5 in the conference (or around there) IMO.
Agree. Coming out of HS in Michigan, he was on heavy side & not heavily recruited. Cooley has really done a nice job developing him. With Hinton, a healthy Dunn & Harris, they have a nice nucleus. Lindsey, a freshman, nailed five threes today. Say what you want, but Cooley has PC headed in right direction.
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Providence beat Notre dame by one....Kris Dunn limping
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POY candidate in BE for sure;
@RobDauster: LaDontae Henton had a career-high 38, seven in the final minute for Providence, but his biggest play was blocking Connaughton's game-winner.
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He was awesome...a monster......will be fun to watch SirDom guard him....and take him out of the game (he said hopefully.)
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He was awesome...a monster......will be fun to watch SirDom guard him....and take him out of the game (he said hopefully.)
He is "one of the best defensive players in the country" so it should be a piece of cake
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Hope it's not holiday fruit cake.
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POY candidate in BE for sure;
@RobDauster: LaDontae Henton had a career-high 38, seven in the final minute for Providence, but his biggest play was blocking Connaughton's game-winner.
He made play after play down the stretch. Cooley has an easy team to root for IMO.
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POY candidate in BE for sure;
@RobDauster: LaDontae Henton had a career-high 38, seven in the final minute for Providence, but his biggest play was blocking Connaughton's game-winner.
He made play after play down the stretch. Cooley has an easy team to root for IMO.
Agree Mase. They close well & don't get rattled.
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Notre dame for the most part looked pretty good too....a good win for Providence and the Big East.
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Creighton winning big as well.
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Notre dame for the most part looked pretty good too....a good win for Providence and the Big East.
Agree, Connaughton is the type of kid I wish we would recruit more of. Hell, ever for that matter.
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Love it when the ACC loses, especially against the BE...Hopefully SJU can put two more Ws on the Board for the BE.
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Nice opportunity to watch two well coached teams;
@VUhoops: VCU vs. Villanova, Legends Classic preview: 3 matchups to watch http://t.co/9VqMdy1rzf (http://t.co/9VqMdy1rzf) http://t.co/cM2TgfFgQV (http://t.co/cM2TgfFgQV)
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@TylerRickyTynes: Big East news: Providence’s Ladonte Henton has been named POW for his 38-point spurt. Xavier’s Trevon Blueitt was named Rookie of the Week.
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Villanova with a big game agains VCU. At least it's something other than the jet game
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Probably best newcomer in BE;
@JeffEisenberg: Xavier freshman Trevon Bluiett is off to a half-decent start. How about 18 ppg, 5.3 rpg and a 7-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio?
Do stats have any meaning at this point? He had 7 assists and one T/O in three November games against non BE/ACC level competition.
He is a SF who coaches around the BE have noted is a steal for Xavier. Not saying anything is proven yet, but it seems likely he will be a top newcomer. For a kid who takes it to the hoop, he takes care of the ball. If he was on SJU I suspect we would be giddy about his prospects. Oh well. Btw, he had 16 points with no TOs v. solid Steven Austin team last night & is averaging 18 points a game on a good team with experience.
I don't doubt he's a good freshmen player. Eisenberg using the stats at this point is questionable.
Agreed, and to Paultz, if nothing is proven yet then why is the outcome already likely. JK
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Can we hold up our end?
@GoodmanESPN: Big East hoops combined is 30-2. The only team with a blemish is Marquette -- who has lost both.
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Can we hold up our end?
@GoodmanESPN: Big East hoops combined is 30-2. The only team with a blemish is Marquette -- who has lost both.
Looks like Wojo should have spent less time doing ice bucket challenges and writing love letters and spent more time preparing for the season.
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Can we hold up our end?
@GoodmanESPN: Big East hoops combined is 30-2. The only team with a blemish is Marquette -- who has lost both.
Looks like Wojo should have spent less time doing ice bucket challenges and writing love letters and spent more time preparing for the season.
You can't learn the finer points of slapping the floor and flopping in only a few months
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Nova killing VCU. Conference looks pretty good so far.
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@JonRothstein: Xavier out rebounded Murray State 56-23 en route to an impressive 89-62 rout. 19 and 5 for Trevon Blueitt. Musketeers are legit folks.
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Marquette in a tight battle with our old friends NJIT. Yikes.
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@JonRothstein: Xavier out rebounded Murray State 56-23 en route to an impressive 89-62 rout. 19 and 5 for Trevon Blueitt. Musketeers are legit folks.
Rebounding is overrated.
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@VinParise: Seton Hall wins Paradise Jam w/ 84-80 win over Illinois State. Sterling Gibbs goes for 40 points. Strong tourney showing for the Pirates.
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Can we hold up our end?
@GoodmanESPN: Big East hoops combined is 30-2. The only team with a blemish is Marquette -- who has lost both.
Looks like Wojo should have spent less time doing ice bucket challenges and writing love letters and spent more time preparing for the season.
Have you seen his recruiting class... I think he is doing something right...
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@VinParise: Seton Hall wins Paradise Jam w/ 84-80 win over Illinois State. Sterling Gibbs goes for 40 points. Strong tourney showing for the Pirates.
Who did they beat in the Paradise Jam? Were there any real opponents?
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@VinParise: Seton Hall wins Paradise Jam w/ 84-80 win over Illinois State. Sterling Gibbs goes for 40 points. Strong tourney showing for the Pirates.
Who did they beat in the Paradise Jam? Were there any real opponents?
They beat Nevada, Gardner-Webb and Illinois State . . .
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It was a pretty bad tourney field but they did win it.
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They can only beat who they play....their freshman big looks pretty good and comfortable.
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michigan v. nova was a great game, another big win for them and good for us to have another strong team in the conference
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VIllanova has kids who make winning plays. Always.
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• Xavier big man Matt Stainbrook is on an absolute tear. The 6-10 senior is currently shooting 84.4 percent from the field and averaging 17 points and 7.5 rebounds through the Musketeers' first four games. Several Big East coaches have said they believe Chris Mack's squad will emerge as the conference's top challenger to Villanova.
@JonRothstein: Quinn Cook, Maryland, and why we'll know a lot more about St. John's after the next few days. Observations @CBSSports http://t.co/Dwp2K1GLnl (http://t.co/Dwp2K1GLnl)
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Butler up by 8 with 2 to go. Killin North Carolina on the boards, not that it has anything to do with it.
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Butler with a big win over #5 North Carolina. Butler with 56 rebounds I believe. Roy Williams said "gamblamit" 8 times and never got teed up. Any one on the NC bench was forced to basket weave when not in the game so they can hit the core curriculum. Looks like there will be no easy wins in the big east this year
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Rebounding, which Yanni's head coche Steve Levine said is the least important aspect of basketball, was the difference in this one. Butler was a +17 on the glass.
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CBS Sports @CBSSports
Butler knocks off No. 5 North Carolina, Big East improves to 37-2 on the season: cbsprt.co/1rvClTL pic.twitter.com/MLtlcAfsIk
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Can we hold up our end?
@GoodmanESPN: Big East hoops combined is 30-2. The only team with a blemish is Marquette -- who has lost both.
Looks like Wojo should have spent less time doing ice bucket challenges and writing love letters and spent more time preparing for the season.
Have you seen his recruiting class... I think he is doing something right...
He can recruit, but x's and o's seem to be an issue. Sounds familiar.
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DePaul down 10 vs. Lehigh with 2mins left
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Georgetown beats Florida 66-65 in OT. Love that the league is doing so well. Maybe they'll get some respect this year.
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I was just thinking of this, if Butler meets Georgetown in the Battle 4 Atlantis championship or third place games would that count in their league record?
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I was just thinking of this, if Butler meets Georgetown in the Battle 4 Atlantis championship or third place games would that count in their league record?
I'm 98% sure it wouldn't count as a league game.
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I was just thinking of this, if Butler meets Georgetown in the Battle 4 Atlantis championship or third place games would that count in their league record?
I'm 98% sure it wouldn't count as a league game.
yea it cant. Gotta have equal # of games played for conference.
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Can we hold up our end?
@GoodmanESPN: Big East hoops combined is 30-2. The only team with a blemish is Marquette -- who has lost both.
Looks like Wojo should have spent less time doing ice bucket challenges and writing love letters and spent more time preparing for the season.
Have you seen his recruiting class... I think he is doing something right...
He can recruit, but x's and o's seem to be an issue. Sounds familiar.
according to Fran, xs and os is last of four things a coach needs
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Nice win Xaiver.
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Butler over GT by 6. Butler coach looks like he knows the game.
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Marquette is going be tough his year
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Marquette is going be tough his year
They'll be tough. For DePaul.
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Marquette is going be tough his year
They'll be tough. For DePaul.
Life is tough for De Paul
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DePaul with the win over Stanford
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DePaul with the win over Stanford
Good for them for showing a spine after getting housed by Lehigh.
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Xavier lost to Long Beach St for second consecutive loss.
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I didnt know that Darrick Wood went to Depaul. I thought he was still in JUCO.
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We got five votes;
@syrbasketball: Syracuse basketball remains unranked in AP Top 25 poll; see how close they are they are to getting back in | http://t.co/hEkiQJk3sP
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If he worked for St. John's, some of my fellow posters would want Boeheim fired.
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@patokeefe12: .@SetonHallMBB's Sterling Gibbs named @BIGEASTMBB Player of Week. Averaged 25.5 in 2 wins, including 40-point performance a/g Illinois St.
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Creighton lost to Tulsa tonight
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Providence losses to BC and the big east has really come back down to earth. Big east 17-12 since they were 37-2 (I did this quick adding so may be slightly off), and it looks like reversion to the mean is complete.
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Seton Hall killing Rutgers. Rutgers is really slow. Getting killed by seton hall's press. We gotta sweep them this year
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Butler is playing Northwestern at 4:30 on regular fox 5. Are they going to put Big East basketball on every Saturday?
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Seton Hall killing Rutgers. Rutgers is really slow. Getting killed by seton hall's press. We gotta sweep them this year
Rutgers reminds me of the 04-05 STJ squad.
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The Big East might be this year's Atlantic 10.....some big wins today over the Big Ten.....ACC....maybe SEC.
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D'Lo is BE Player of the Week. Whitehead wins Rookie award.
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@Coach_Rick57: Conference winning %
Big 12
62-11 84.9%
Big East
62-15 80.5%
Big 10
88-26 77.9%
ACC
90-32 73%
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@Coach_Rick57: Conference winning % Big 12 62-11 84.9% Big East 62-15 80.5% Big 10 88-26 77.9% ACC 90-32 73%
As they keep winning ESPN can't continue to ignore the BE. Just read the weekly blog and there was no mention of any BE team...Cuse snapping their OOC home winning streak doesn't mean anything? Dana did mention how the BE is still vulnerable in NYC and that's why the ACC and B10 are trying to move in...B10 seems silly movin g there conference championship a week earlier.
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@Coach_Rick57: Conference winning % Big 12 62-11 84.9% Big East 62-15 80.5% Big 10 88-26 77.9% ACC 90-32 73%
As they keep winning ESPN can't continue to ignore the BE. Just read the weekly blog and there was no mention of any BE team...Cuse snapping their OOC home winning streak doesn't mean anything? Dana did mention how the BE is still vulnerable in NYC and that's why the ACC and B10 are trying to move in...B10 seems silly movin g there conference championship a week earlier.
i think we need two more teams in the league. with cincy and memphis about to leave aac, i think uconn needs to come back to bigeast. thrown in VCU and i think we're set.
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@Coach_Rick57: Conference winning % Big 12 62-11 84.9% Big East 62-15 80.5% Big 10 88-26 77.9% ACC 90-32 73%
As they keep winning ESPN can't continue to ignore the BE. Just read the weekly blog and there was no mention of any BE team...Cuse snapping their OOC home winning streak doesn't mean anything? Dana did mention how the BE is still vulnerable in NYC and that's why the ACC and B10 are trying to move in...B10 seems silly movin g there conference championship a week earlier.
i think we need two more teams in the league. with cincy and memphis about to leave aac, i think uconn needs to come back to bigeast. thrown in VCU and i think we're set.
If UCONN gave up football then I think that is a possibilty. I think the Big12 will add two more teams soon because the got screwed out of the Playoffs. It will be interesting to see who they go after. For first time in a long while in glad BE doesbt have to worry about that crap and it may actually help the conference out to see what the after affects would be.
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Would take Uconn and Cincinnati back in a second
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Not happening with any school that even remotely has a D-I football investment.
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Providence sucks
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Not playing well tonight in the first half, but they crushed FSU and won in Notre Dame. And only one semi-bad loss BC. I think with Henton, Dunn, Harris, etc, they will be pretty good this year.
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Providence sucks
Yes they do
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Brown beats Prov at the Dunk. A healthy reminder for our guys that there is no such thing as a patsy in college basketball.
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I said it on twitter preseason that I thought Providence was most overrated team in Big East. I thought Creighton was most underrated. Butler has been beyond shocking.
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I said it on twitter preseason that I thought Providence was most overrated team in Big East. I thought Creighton was most underrated. Butler has been beyond shocking.
But everyone is still basking in the Cooley glory.....
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I watched second half of PC game. Brown is very well coached, but PC showed its shortcomings for sure. Henton & Dunne are very good players, but from there it is dicey. I find Tyler Harris to be selfish & tends to do stupid things at wrong time. Batts & Cotton are sorely missed. How many times did Cotton put that team on his back last year with incredible shooting? Not easy to replace. PC better beat Rhody & UMass before BE play.
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I watched second half of PC game. Brown is very well coached, but PC showed its shortcomings for sure. Henton & Dunne are very good players, but from there it is dicey. I find Tyler Harris to be selfish & tends to do stupid things at wrong time. Batts & Cotton are sorely missed. How many times did Cotton put that team on his back last year with incredible shooting? Not easy to replace. PC better beat Rhody & UMass before BE play.
Agree 100% on Harris. Derosiers also leaves a lot to be desired from a former top 100 7' center. I do think that Bentil will eventually fill the Batts role. More than anything, PC needs Dunn to step up like Cotton did.
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@MarquetteMBB: Deonte Burton & John Dawson departing #mubb program at conclusion of semester/finals week (Dec. 14) & will transfer.
Burton is a loss. Guess these guys did not buy into new regime.
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@MarquetteMBB: Deonte Burton & John Dawson departing #mubb program at conclusion of semester/finals week (Dec. 14) & will transfer. Burton is a loss. Guess these guys did not buy into new regime.
Man whats the deal with Burton? Didnt get minutes under buzz, but was productive. This off season he got plenty of hype and again did not get the minutes.
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Hall getting bossed up in Wichita
18-34 with 2 to go in the first.
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Whitehead needs to keep his mouth shut on the court. Few times I saw him jawing or gesturing to the Wichita st bench. Just got tech
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
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Whitehead needs to keep his mouth shut on the court. Few times I saw him jawing or gesturing to the Wichita st bench. Just got tech
Down 13 Whitehead's gets a technical foul for taunting the Wichita State bench.
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
Amen. I take Tiny and Heads baggage
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No big deal. No one else on team is doing anything. It's what kids do... talk trash. Kid played an incredible half of basketball in hostile environment , don't focus on one minor blip. Cost them 1 point. No Big deal
I wouldn't have been bullied into taking Tiny though. F-that
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No big deal. No one else on team is doing anything. It's what kids do... talk trash. Kid played an incredible half of basketball in hostile environment , don't focus on one minor blip. Cost them 1 point. Big deal
I noticed it a few times. Let's see how be he and Willard react
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No big deal. No one else on team is doing anything. It's what kids do... talk trash. Kid played an incredible half of basketball in hostile environment , don't focus on one minor blip. Cost them 1 point. Big deal
Actually WSU coach conned the ref on that tech. Was nothing but usual banter.
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No big deal. No one else on team is doing anything. It's what kids do... talk trash. Kid played an incredible half of basketball in hostile environment , don't focus on one minor blip. Cost them 1 point. Big deal
Actually WSU coach conned the ref on that tech. Was nothing but usual banter.
Coach complained because it wasn't the first time
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No big deal. No one else on team is doing anything. It's what kids do... talk trash. Kid played an incredible half of basketball in hostile environment , don't focus on one minor blip. Cost them 1 point. No Big deal I wouldn't have been bullied into taking Tiny though. F-that
Except his team had just scored on consecutive possessions. Is it a crime? No, but he F'd his team that shit. Maybe it doesn't make him a punk, but it definitely makes him thoughtless.
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It cost them 1point in a game they were losing by 13 and will likely lose by 20+.
All the good things he did and all we can talk about is the tech?
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Damn, now he's hurt. Hope not too serious.
Should probably fire Willard over that tech. ;)
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It cost them 1point in a game they were losing by 13 and will likely lose by 20+. All the good things he did and all we can talk about is the tech?
Yea, he's a great scorer, but I stand by what I said. That was pretty stupid.
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Damn, Wichita plays big boy defense.
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Hopefully, after this, Seton Hall can return to playing the likes of SW New Jersey State College
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Daniel Ochefu looks older than Jay Wright
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
They would have killed eachother.
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
They would have killed eachother.
I don't think Whitehead would have been willing to take a back seat. Not sure the chemistry would have been good at all.
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
They would have killed eachother.
No interviews for the backcourt
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Villanova looked really good yesterday. Creighton needed to go into 2OT to beat South Dakota.
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
They would have killed eachother.
No interviews for the backcourt
Kinda makes you appreciate Greene. Kid takes the game seriously. You never see him act like a punk.
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
They would have killed eachother.
No interviews for the backcourt
Kinda makes you appreciate Greene. Kid takes the game seriously. You never see him act like a punk.
Does Harrison not? Plus that kid is the best interview I've seen at St. John's.
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
They would have killed eachother.
Can someone explain what Moose's avatar is?
Am I supposed to slow down for crossing leprechauns?
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
They would have killed eachother.
Can someone explain what Moose's avatar is? Am I supposed to slow down for crossing leprechauns?
Someone can explain. How about me :)
Its a troll in honor of us having so many ;)
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Whitehead incredible. Has last 18 Hall points. Whitehead, Harrion, Jordan would have been some backcourt.
They would have killed eachother.
Can someone explain what Moose's avatar is? Am I supposed to slow down for crossing leprechauns?
Someone can explain. How about me :) Its a troll in honor of us having so many ;)
There are trolls around here?? I didn't even notice.
I thought they were just naturally happy people, or Steve Lavin's agent. One of the two. But trolls? wow
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Trolls are the positive ones.. Yeah, that's it, I'm sure.
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I mean, we are 5-1, coming off a win on road at Cuse. We have a winnable 5 game stretch heading towards league play. Anyone spouting positives re: team, players, or coach must be trolling.
Everyone else is just keeping it real, yo.
This place is hysterical
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I mean, we are 5-1, coming off a win on road at Cuse. We have a winnable 5 game stretch heading towards league play. Anyone spouting positives re: team, players, or coach must be trolling. Everyone else is just keeping it real, yo. This place is hysterical
Not everyone Boo. But some. Like those who come on and call for the coach to get a raise and an extension every time he makes it through a day without causing the apocalypse. "See! He's doing great!"
As Ive been saying, let's keep the momentum going - and soon all of us will be drinking the kool aid. But right now, one win over Cuse isn't enough to wash all the bad taste out of my mouth.
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I mean, we are 5-1, coming off a win on road at Cuse. We have a winnable 5 game stretch heading towards league play. Anyone spouting positives re: team, players, or coach must be trolling. Everyone else is just keeping it real, yo. This place is hysterical
Not everyone Boo. But some. Like those who come on and call for the coach to get a raise and an extension every time he makes it through a day without causing the apocalypse. "See! He's doing great!"
As Ive been saying, let's keep the momentum going - and soon all of us will be drinking the kool aid. But right now, one win over Cuse isn't enough to wash all the bad taste out of my mouth.
Saying we only have one win over Cuse is IMO an understatement. We beat Minny, Had 2 chances to tie Gonzaga with under 20 seconds to go, and have our first ranking since Lavin's first year. I'm not one of those calling for an extension quite yet, but let's not understate what this team has achieved through the first month of the season.
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I mean, we are 5-1, coming off a win on road at Cuse. We have a winnable 5 game stretch heading towards league play. Anyone spouting positives re: team, players, or coach must be trolling. Everyone else is just keeping it real, yo. This place is hysterical
Not everyone Boo. But some. Like those who come on and call for the coach to get a raise and an extension every time he makes it through a day without causing the apocalypse. "See! He's doing great!" As Ive been saying, let's keep the momentum going - and soon all of us will be drinking the kool aid. But right now, one win over Cuse isn't enough to wash all the bad taste out of my mouth.
You can re read the chicken or egg thread. In it you will see most with a well reasoned position on why or why not Lavin should get an extension.
You are over simplifying a tad, no?
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Gtown a 2pt favorite over #10 Kansas tonight. Hoyas are home.
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I mean, we are 5-1, coming off a win on road at Cuse. We have a winnable 5 game stretch heading towards league play. Anyone spouting positives re: team, players, or coach must be trolling. Everyone else is just keeping it real, yo. This place is hysterical
Not everyone Boo. But some. Like those who come on and call for the coach to get a raise and an extension every time he makes it through a day without causing the apocalypse. "See! He's doing great!" As Ive been saying, let's keep the momentum going - and soon all of us will be drinking the kool aid. But right now, one win over Cuse isn't enough to wash all the bad taste out of my mouth.
You can re read the chicken or egg thread. In it you will see most with a well reasoned position on why or why not Lavin should get an extension. You are over simplifying a tad, no?
absolutely, I am oversimplifying it. And Artesticles is right, Im not offering full context. But that's only because I don't want to rehash the whole argument. So I just laid out my feelings why I think some on here are trolling. But only because I know some posters are annoyed when we rehash the whole thing repeatedly.
Either way, I'll say it again. If it turns out you guys are right, and we keep winning, and coach signs a few recruits - then I'll be happy to say I'm wrong and see the university give him an extension. But Saturday's win hasn't changed my view dramatically. I need to see more. And for what it's worth, I don't think I troll. I know alot of you disagree with me, but I almost always engage in conversation. I don't post just to inflame emotions. (well, maybe sometimes when I talk about the tie stuff :2funny: )
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Gtown a 2pt favorite over #10 Kansas tonight. Hoyas are home.
That's a little surprising. Should be a good test for Georgetown though, and a good signal for how good the conference really can be.
odds makers must be impressed by the 2pt loss to wisconsin
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I mean, we are 5-1, coming off a win on road at Cuse. We have a winnable 5 game stretch heading towards league play. Anyone spouting positives re: team, players, or coach must be trolling. Everyone else is just keeping it real, yo. This place is hysterical
Not everyone Boo. But some. Like those who come on and call for the coach to get a raise and an extension every time he makes it through a day without causing the apocalypse. "See! He's doing great!" As Ive been saying, let's keep the momentum going - and soon all of us will be drinking the kool aid. But right now, one win over Cuse isn't enough to wash all the bad taste out of my mouth.
You can re read the chicken or egg thread. In it you will see most with a well reasoned position on why or why not Lavin should get an extension. You are over simplifying a tad, no?
absolutely, I am oversimplifying it. And Artesticles is right, Im not offering full context. But that's only because I don't want to rehash the whole argument. So I just laid out my feelings why I think some on here are trolling. But only because I know some posters are annoyed when we rehash the whole thing repeatedly. Either way, I'll say it again. If it turns out you guys are right, and we keep winning, and coach signs a few recruits - then I'll be happy to say I'm wrong and see the university give him an extension. But Saturday's win hasn't changed my view dramatically. I need to see more. And for what it's worth, I don't think I troll. I know alot of you disagree with me, but I almost always engage in conversation. I don't post just to inflame emotions. (well, maybe sometimes when I talk about the tie stuff :2funny: )
Just because one doesn't mean to be a troll doesn't mean one's not.
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I mean, we are 5-1, coming off a win on road at Cuse. We have a winnable 5 game stretch heading towards league play. Anyone spouting positives re: team, players, or coach must be trolling. Everyone else is just keeping it real, yo. This place is hysterical
Not everyone Boo. But some. Like those who come on and call for the coach to get a raise and an extension every time he makes it through a day without causing the apocalypse. "See! He's doing great!" As Ive been saying, let's keep the momentum going - and soon all of us will be drinking the kool aid. But right now, one win over Cuse isn't enough to wash all the bad taste out of my mouth.
You can re read the chicken or egg thread. In it you will see most with a well reasoned position on why or why not Lavin should get an extension. You are over simplifying a tad, no?
absolutely, I am oversimplifying it. And Artesticles is right, Im not offering full context. But that's only because I don't want to rehash the whole argument. So I just laid out my feelings why I think some on here are trolling. But only because I know some posters are annoyed when we rehash the whole thing repeatedly. Either way, I'll say it again. If it turns out you guys are right, and we keep winning, and coach signs a few recruits - then I'll be happy to say I'm wrong and see the university give him an extension. But Saturday's win hasn't changed my view dramatically. I need to see more. And for what it's worth, I don't think I troll. I know alot of you disagree with me, but I almost always engage in conversation. I don't post just to inflame emotions. (well, maybe sometimes when I talk about the tie stuff :2funny: )
Just because one doesn't mean to be a troll doesn't mean one's not.
I beg to differ. Not all dictionaries have adopted the internet usage of the word, but those that have define it as:
(computing, slang) a person who submits deliberately inflammatory articles to an internet discussion http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/troll
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@GaryParrishCBS: I was wondering when a college team would do it. RT @MikeHumePost: Hoyas wearing "I Can't Breathe" shirts. http://t.co/VeVTf8VWmH
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Georgetown was on verge of getting blown out the door.. Just made a nice comeback 3 point game on Fox S 1
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I know it's not BE but Columbia leading UK at the half.
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I know it's not BE but Columbia leading UK at the half.
Kyle Smith of Columbia is very good coach with a bright future.
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@GaryParrishCBS: I was wondering when a college team would do it. RT @MikeHumePost: Hoyas wearing "I Can't Breathe" shirts. http://t.co/VeVTf8VWmH
Embarrassment
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@GaryParrishCBS: I was wondering when a college team would do it. RT @MikeHumePost: Hoyas wearing "I Can't Breathe" shirts. http://t.co/VeVTf8VWmH
Embarrassment
Why?
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@GaryParrishCBS: I was wondering when a college team would do it. RT @MikeHumePost: Hoyas wearing "I Can't Breathe" shirts. http://t.co/VeVTf8VWmH
Embarrassment
Why?
Has nothing to do with college basketball
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
I guess "I support career criminals" is acceptable nowadays. What a joke
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Haha love you Baldi!!
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
I guess "I support career criminals" is acceptable nowadays. What a joke
Talk about missing the point... not surprised.
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
I guess "I support career criminals" is acceptable nowadays. What a joke
Talk about missing the point... not surprised.
I can't breathe, meanwhile the guy is selling illegal cigs. Oh the irony
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You don't like the message so it's an embarrassment? Doesn't work that way in this country.. It's a t-shirt dude.. Get over it.
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
I guess "I support career criminals" is acceptable nowadays. What a joke
Talk about missing the point... not surprised.
I can't breathe, meanwhile the guy is selling illegal cigs. Oh the irony
No irony actually. Just you completely missing the point.
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You don't like the message so it's an embarrassment? Doesn't work that way in this country.. It's a t-shirt dude.. Get over it.
You compared "support our troops" to "I can't breath".
As you say, why am I not surprised
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
I guess "I support career criminals" is acceptable nowadays. What a joke
Talk about missing the point... not surprised.
I can't breathe, meanwhile the guy is selling illegal cigs. Oh the irony
No irony actually. Just you completely missing the point.
Ok, please tell me the point
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You don't like the message so it's an embarrassment? Doesn't work that way in this country.. It's a t-shirt dude.. Get over it.
You compared "support our troops" to "I can't breath". As you say, why am I not surprised
Nice try...I just compared the " I can't breathe" message to a message you would support...
Neither have anything to do with College Basketball. Was your asinine point, not mine.
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
I guess "I support career criminals" is acceptable nowadays. What a joke
Talk about missing the point... not surprised.
I can't breathe, meanwhile the guy is selling illegal cigs. Oh the irony
No irony actually. Just you completely missing the point.
Ok, please tell me the point
I don't want to derail the thread, and it's probably not worth getting into with you on here anyway, If you want to PM, I'd be happy to talk to you about the point.
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Not even worth arguing anymore. The blind support for a 30 time offender who resisted arrest is absurd.
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Done derailing the thread.. It's not worth it.. You don't get it. That's the second time you put words in my mouth that I never came close to saying.. Not surprised.
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Done derailing the thread.. It's not worth it.. You don't get it. That's the second time you put words in my mouth that I never came close to saying.. Not surprised.
I wasn't talking about you. Unless of course you play for the Hoyas
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I would add this one point...
How can it be blind support when the whole world saw exactly what happened? Seems to be the opposite of blind.
Now I'm done. You should stop also.
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I support our troops
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I watched second half of PC game. Brown is very well coached, but PC showed its shortcomings for sure. Henton & Dunne are very good players, but from there it is dicey. I find Tyler Harris to be selfish & tends to do stupid things at wrong time. Batts & Cotton are sorely missed. How many times did Cotton put that team on his back last year with incredible shooting? Not easy to replace. PC better beat Rhody & UMass before BE play.
PC beat Rhode Island by 8
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@NicoleAuerbach: To understand Butler's 8-1 start & tough/abrupt transition from Brandon Miller, get to know Chris Holtmann: http://t.co/q5FSU9pUM2
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I'd be okay with firing Purnell tonight. What a disease he is. Pathetic that such a horrible coach is even allowed to work in our conference.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Yes, it's early, but Joe Lunardi has seven Big East teams in his projected field of 68.
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Creighton vs. St. Marys on FS1 right now.
good chance to scout some future competition. Only mid-way through the first half, but neither of these teams scare me. We should win provided we don't have an off-evening from multiple guys.
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#3 on St. Mary's can really stroke the three.
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Creighton vs. St. Marys on FS1 right now. good chance to scout some future competition. Only mid-way through the first half, but neither of these teams scare me. We should win provided we don't have an off-evening from multiple guys.
agree.
want to see how we guard the center from St. mary's
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
Discussing what T shirts Georgetown's players wear is silly. Move along.
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
Discussing what T shirts Georgetown's players wear is silly. Move along.
My point. Thanks for making it. Baldi brought it up to stir pot. You are catching on little man.
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St. Mary's won in ot. Neither teams were that good. Gotta win all 3 . Both teams can shoot if left open. Creighton has a good PG and St. mary's has big Center.
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Fwiw, since the board has been discussing sju players being benched because of disciplinary reasons. Creighton guard James millikin was benched entire first half today after scoring 22 in 2ot win the other night vs sth dak because of a team violation. His 22 the other night, big diff in a close win. Today 0 points in 5 min, was a big difference in loss.
All coaches have guidelines, and if players don't follow these types of losses will happen but it's the right way to run a program. Sometimes a loss is the best way for players to learn, because they let their teammates down.
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
Discussing what T shirts Georgetown's players wear is silly. Move along.
My point. Thanks for making it. Baldi brought it up to stir pot. You are catching on little man.
Support our troops
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So what? If they had a "Support our Troops" t-shirt on that would have nothing to do with College Hoops either.. Is that embarrassing? I don't think so.
Discussing what T shirts Georgetown's players wear is silly. Move along.
My point. Thanks for making it. Baldi brought it up to stir pot. You are catching on little man.
Support our troops
100%
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Fwiw, since the board has been discussing sju players being benched because of disciplinary reasons. Creighton guard James millikin was benched entire first half today after scoring 22 in 2ot win the other night vs sth dak because of a team violation. His 22 the other night, big diff in a close win. Today 0 points in 5 min, was a big difference in loss. All coaches have guidelines, and if players don't follow these types of losses will happen but it's the right way to run a program. Sometimes a loss is the best way for players to learn, because they let their teammates down.
Lavin is entitled to run his program how he sees fit, but if he doesn't win, we're still coming for his head.
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Hall is dominating a weak USF team in Tampa right now. They stay in the SouthEast and fly to Atlanta to play UGA on Sunday, if they come out of this weekend 2-0 (10-1) there's no doubt they'll be in the Top25.
Depaul@Oregon St. is also a sneaky good game tn at 10.
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Hall is dominating a weak USF team in Tampa right now. They stay in the SouthEast and fly to Atlanta to play UGA on Sunday, if they come out of this weekend 2-0 (10-1) there's no doubt they'll be in the Top25. Depaul@Oregon St. is also a sneaky good game tn at 10.
Georgia isn't bad. That would be a good win. Think Seton Hall is going to be ok this year. I like the way we match up with them. I think they will finish in top half of conference.
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Hall in top 25 is great for the conference
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Hall is dominating a weak USF team in Tampa right now. They stay in the SouthEast and fly to Atlanta to play UGA on Sunday, if they come out of this weekend 2-0 (10-1) there's no doubt they'll be in the Top25. Depaul@Oregon St. is also a sneaky good game tn at 10.
DePaul and Oregon State are two of the worse power conference teams in the country. Wouldn't call that a sneaky good game
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This is a big game for DePaul, they're very improved.
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@CerasolisGhost: FINAL: Seton Hall 89, USF 69. Pirates offense killed it. Delgado 16 pts, 6 rebs; Gibbs 14 pts, 6 asts; Whitehead 10 pts, 5 asts #shbb
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Ryan A. from Nova is only averaging 7 points a game. I thought he was much better then that. Does he only kill us?
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Snow graphic on fox is so dumb
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Snow graphic on fox is so dumb
It's Fox. Of course, it's dumb.
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Ryan A. from Nova is only averaging 7 points a game. I thought he was much better then that. Does he only kill us?
We were not interested in defending the 3 last year, so he did well, because he can knock down a wide open 3. This year, especially last night, guys like Greene, Jordan and Harrison are getting out on shooters.
It also helps that Jakarr Sampson and his patented I dare you make a wide open jumper defense aren't here to pull that crap anymore.
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Ryan A. from Nova is only averaging 7 points a game. I thought he was much better then that. Does he only kill us?
We were not interested in defending the 3 last year, so he did well, because he can knock down a wide open 3. This year, especially last night, guys like Greene, Jordan and Harrison are getting out on shooters. It also helps that Jakarr Sampson and his patented I dare you make a wide open jumper defense aren't here to pull that crap anymore.
Refs are catching up to "Arcidiannoying" flops & theatrics.
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Nova down by 12. I guess it's a win win either way. A cuse win will help our RPI even though I hate them
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GT wins by 3 over Charlotte
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Nova down by 12. I guess it's a win win either way. A cuse win will help our RPI even though I hate them
Much prefer a Nova win. We will get 2 chances at them this year, one at home, and we could use a Top 10 win to solidify our resume.
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Refs are catching up to "Arcidiannoying" flops & theatrics.
Hilarious!!!
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Is anyone else's audio fading in and out of Fox during the Nova SU game? I rewatch we St.John's last night, and it happened during that broadcast as well.
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Nova down by 12. I guess it's a win win either way. A cuse win will help our RPI even though I hate them
Much prefer a Nova win. We will get 2 chances at them this year, one at home, and we could use a Top 10 win to solidify our resume.
If Syracuse wins they will probably give them a very unwarranted ranking so our Rpi will shoot up 5 to 10 spots. Villanova would still be ranked for our 2 games with them. I hate it but we need a cuse win.
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Nova wins by 5 in OT. Jim B's wife is staying with her parents tonight. :)
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Snow graphic on fox is so dumb
It's Fox. Of course, it's dumb.
Easy now, it's not Fox News.
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I have really become anti espn. Watching okla vs wash game which is at half. Top 25 scoreboard comes up and Studio guys summing up games focusses on butler loss rather than nova win.. The way that nova got to OT happens rarely to ever and espn focusses on butler loss vs Indiana. Jay Williams forgets to mention that msu lost to Texas southern.
Beating a dead horse but working in sports entertainment, I see this happen all the time where a company goes out of way to kick a competitor down. Love the fact that SEC, ACC and big 10 are down this Yr.. Worst thing that happens is duke vs UK in finals. Espn might create a holiday for employees.
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Ryan A. from Nova is only averaging 7 points a game. I thought he was much better then that. Does he only kill us?
We were not interested in defending the 3 last year, so he did well, because he can knock down a wide open 3. This year, especially last night, guys like Greene, Jordan and Harrison are getting out on shooters. It also helps that Jakarr Sampson and his patented I dare you make a wide open jumper defense aren't here to pull that crap anymore.
Refs are catching up to "Arcidiannoying" flops & theatrics.
Haha about time, but regardless of his poor shooting he still has his hand in almost all their crucial plays. Last 30 seconds of regulation yesterday was perfect example, 2 assists and a steal. Ive said it a million times, those kids on Nova just seem to make winning plays.
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Georgia up 41-22 on Seton Hall at the half. Do they have a St.John's like comeback in them?
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I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile.
If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE.
Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!!
They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina.
They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova.
Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!!
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Did we go after Desi fro seton hall and Lincoln? Wish we had him.
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I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!!
Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova?
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I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!!
Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova?
Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova.
Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country.
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Harrison on honor roll &
@BIGEAST: #BIGEASTmbb weekly awards released. @NovaMBB's Pinkston & @MarquetteMBB's Wilson pick up honors. http://t.co/GVUk57Q1aU
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I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!!
Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova?
Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova. Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country.
I disagree. Outside of Kentucky and maybe duke I think nova can play with any team in the country. They have proven that so far
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I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!!
Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova?
Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova. Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country.
I disagree. Outside of Kentucky and maybe duke I think nova can play with any team in the country. They have proven that so far
I didn't say they "couldn't play with anyone" I said Virginia and Louisville are better. And they are. What you are saying is any top 15 team can play with any top 15 team essentially. But that is not the point I am making.
If you put them on a neutral floor right now who would be favored? That is my point. The ACC has THREE teams if not more at or quite frankly ABOVE Nova in stature.
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Very simply put with regards to overall strength of conference, ask Villanova who would they rather face in a 3 game stretch right now:
SJU, Butler and Georgetown? Or Duke, Virginia and Louisville?
Would take them about 2 seconds to answer that.
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Very simply put with regards to overall strength of conference, ask Villanova who would they rather face in a 3 game stretch right now: SJU, Butler and Georgetown? Or Duke, Virginia and Louisville? Would take them about 2 seconds to answer that.
Have to agree. Bennett btw is one of the great defensive minds in the game. Good genes.
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I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!!
Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova?
Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova. Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country.
I disagree. Outside of Kentucky and maybe duke I think nova can play with any team in the country. They have proven that so far
I didn't say they "couldn't play with anyone" I said Virginia and Louisville are better. And they are. What you are saying is any top 15 team can play with any top 15 team essentially. But that is not the point I am making. If you put them on a neutral floor right now who would be favored? That is my point. The ACC has THREE teams if not more at or quite frankly ABOVE Nova in stature.
Okay what you said was significant favorites. What is significant? At the garden would Virginia be favored over Nova? Im not sure they would be, but I do know that if they were it would not be significant.
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The problem with the big east isn't the top. Our top 4 teams are good. After Xavier conference goes down pretty fast. We need Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall, and Providence not to suck.
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bad losses by Creighton and Seton Hall yesterday. Didn't see the scores till today.
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I think it is improved but can we all now relax on the BE being this elite (on the level of the ACC) conference for awhile. If it weren't for SJU and Villanova with big rallies at home (and quite frankly Nova got outplayed and deserved to lose) this would have been a complete disaster of a weekend for the BE. Let's be clear the ACC has 3 teams: Duke, Louisville and Virginia (really being underappreciated in my mind that is a Final Four caliber team) that are all better than Villanova. Period. Deeper and more talented. And Villanova is the deepest and best BE team by a country mile!!! They have another who has as much talent as Nova if not more that has clearly underachieved so far but you can see they will be big time by the end of year, North Carolina. They have another ND who has one loss (granted that was to a BE team in Providence by a point in Connecticut) and Syracuse is not vintage but they showed they have enough young talent that they will win some games against good teams later in the year. That was a gift they gave Villanova. Again the League is improving Georgetown and Xavier even with some early losses will be legit in the League. But you saw all those tweets from a few weeks ago with the BE W/L record 38-3 nonsense, that stopped pretty quick no??? LOL!!
Why are you so sure that Louisville and Virginia are better than nova?
Because I watched all 3 and I have no doubt on a neutral floor that both Virginia and Louisville would be significant favorites over Nova. Virginia, next to Kentucky, is the best defensive team in the country.
I disagree. Outside of Kentucky and maybe duke I think nova can play with any team in the country. They have proven that so far
I didn't say they "couldn't play with anyone" I said Virginia and Louisville are better. And they are. What you are saying is any top 15 team can play with any top 15 team essentially. But that is not the point I am making. If you put them on a neutral floor right now who would be favored? That is my point. The ACC has THREE teams if not more at or quite frankly ABOVE Nova in stature.
Okay what you said was significant favorites. What is significant? At the garden would Virginia be favored over Nova? Im not sure they would be, but I do know that if they were it would not be significant.
Yes they would be a 5-6 point favorite right now.
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The problem with the big east isn't the top. Our top 4 teams are good. After Xavier conference goes down pretty fast. We need Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall, and Providence not to suck.
All conferences have bad bottom's. When the BE was a 16 team monster it still had South Florida, Rutgers, DePaul, SJU and SHU that consistently did little or nothing. The ACC is no exception they will have some weak teams.
Your top needs to be VERY STRONG though. The ACC will have a very STRONG top especially if UNC rebounds in conference play. Have multiple top 2-3 seeded teams in the NCAA. This BE conference does not.
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The problem with the big east isn't the top. Our top 4 teams are good. After Xavier conference goes down pretty fast. We need Creighton, Butler, Seton Hall, and Providence not to suck.
All conferences have bad bottom's. When the BE was a 16 team monster it still had South Florida, Rutgers, DePaul, SJU and SHU that consistently did little or nothing. The ACC is no exception they will have some weak teams. Your top needs to be VERY STRONG though. The ACC will have a very STRONG top especially if UNC rebounds in conference play. Have multiple top 2-3 seeded teams in the NCAA. This BE conference does not.
So far the BE is doing better then last year and hopefully they do better in March which is more important. I do take pleasure that a lot if the teams that left other conferences for greener pastures are struggling. The BE just needs to keep getting better every year, and more importantly the conference needs consistently good teams...To include SJU representing NYC and the Garden.
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Depaul lost by 20 to Ohio yesterday. Amazing that they are so terrible.
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Depaul lost by 20 to Ohio yesterday. Amazing that they are so terrible.
They lost again today to LMU. I think it is a foregone conclusion that Purnell is a goner the question is do they wait to seasons end to pull the plug of do they do it now like they did with Wainwright 5 years ago with a mid-season firing. I don't think they have an AD either.
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http://nypost.com/2014/12/25/bill-raftery-big-east-title-not-out-of-question-for-st-johns/
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Depaul lost by 20 to Ohio yesterday. Amazing that they are so terrible.
They lost again today to LMU. I think it is a foregone conclusion that Purnell is a goner the question is do they wait to seasons end to pull the plug of do they do it now like they did with Wainwright 5 years ago with a mid-season firing. I don't think they have an AD either.
Why should he be a goner? Maybe they can't do any better than Oliver Purnell?
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This Georgetown - Indiana is shaping up to he a good game. Two underrated teams.
Also, having both Greenberg and Calhoun analyzing the game is giving viewers a good coach's perspective. Better announcing than I'm used to hearing.
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Calhoun is surprisingly a great announcer. Enjoy him way more than I ever thought I could.
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Calhoun is surprisingly a great announcer. Enjoy him way more than I ever thought I could.
+1
As a man he's pretty awful, but he does appreciate the Big East and traditional east coast basketball. And his comments during the game are about strategy and play, not intangibles, grit or other bs.
He's recognizes good play, not just the big play.
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Agree . Still hate him
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Just posted on the other board too-
Most coaches who become announcers just spew BS and 'coach speak'. I gotta say listening to Calhoun he is damn good as an analyst. Wish he would call more games.
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Just posted on the other board too- Most coaches who become announcers just spew BS and 'coach speak'. I gotta say listening to Calhoun he is damn good as an analyst. Wish he would call more games.
Maybe he wants to come back?
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I'd enjoy seeing Georgetown lose by 30
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I hate Gtown but root for the conference in these OOC games.
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I hate Gtown but root for the conference in these OOC games.
Normally I would too. But the I can't breathe shirts they sported sealed it for me. Norte Dame too, I hope they lose every game in every sport
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Indiana has not been able to do a thing vs this 2-3. They're living and dieing by the 3pt. No ball movement, no entry to the short corner or the foul line.
Poor second half coaching by crean.
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Damn. Troy Williams is a beast
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Good good game. Nice day for bball.
Gonna make my way to a bar for the UK UL game.
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Love that G town on ESPN2 went to OT when ESPN wanted so badly to get to the Kentucky/ Louisville game.
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Why would Crea. Take Troy Williams out of the game with 2 mins
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Indiana's lack of size and porous defense caught up with them.
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Plus one on the tshirts baldi
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Pul eeze.........we need to root for all Big East teams. Always.
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Depaul lost by 20 to Ohio yesterday. Amazing that they are so terrible.
They lost again today to LMU. I think it is a foregone conclusion that Purnell is a goner the question is do they wait to seasons end to pull the plug of do they do it now like they did with Wainwright 5 years ago with a mid-season firing. I don't think they have an AD either.
Why should he be a goner? Maybe they can't do any better than Oliver Purnell?
They probably can't but they also don't need to pay someone $2 million to lose this bad year after year.
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This Georgetown - Indiana is shaping up to he a good game. Two underrated teams. Also, having both Greenberg and Calhoun analyzing the game is giving viewers a good coach's perspective. Better announcing than I'm used to hearing.
+1
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@AdamZagoria: .@GeorgetownHoops D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera Named #BigEast Player of the Week. Seton Hall's Angel Delgado named Rookie of the Week.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmw90A2t74
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7 of 10 teams in the top 40 Rpi for the big east. We actually moved up after the loss to #10 which I don't quite get.
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@VUhoops: FS1 is launching a #BigEast-centric show on Sunday http://t.co/5Iu7X0bSut http://t.co/EThm1ONW8o
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Josh Hart is #$%^in scum. Just kicked Delgado and stepped on him on purpose.
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Josh Hart is #$%^in scum. Just kicked Delgado and stepped on him on purpose.
Hilliard undercut him too. Either Nova is dirty or Delgado is doing something to get these reactions out of them.
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Sina can't hit anything today.
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Sina can't hit anything today.
He's came back down to earth. He hadn't been playing well 'til the game versus the Johnnies.
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There's something about Jay Wright that just looks "professional", Willard too for that matter, I can't put my fingex on it exactly though...
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Josh Hart is #$%^in scum. Just kicked Delgado and stepped on him on purpose.
Hilliard undercut him too. Either Nova is dirty or Delgado is doing something to get these reactions out of them.
I thought Hilliard's was just a good box out,delgaldo left his feet and fell on top of him. The foul he fouled out on in ot was on a box out too.
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Josh Hart is #$%^in scum. Just kicked Delgado and stepped on him on purpose.
Hilliard undercut him too. Either Nova is dirty or Delgado is doing something to get these reactions out of them.
I thought Hilliard's was just a good box out,delgaldo left his feet and fell on top of him. The foul he fouled out on in ot was on a box out too.
Hillard moonwalked under him. My guess is Delgado was doing something down low that caused outbursts out of both guys.
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@NJHoopsHaven: Heady times for Seton Hall: Pirates sweep Big East weekly honors: Player of Week (Sterling Gibbs) & Rookie of Week (Khadeen Carrington).
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@CBSSportsCBB: Former Louisville F Akoy Agau has decided to transfer to Georgetown.
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DePaul about to beat Creighton in Omaha to move to 3-0. They sure aren't the pushover everybody thought they'd be this year. We are looking at another 0-5 start right in the face
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DePaul about to beat Creighton in Omaha to move to 3-0. They sure aren't the pushover everybody thought they'd be this year. We are looking at another 0-5 start right in the face
Gotta be an anomaly. I can easily see them losing their next 12. @Nova, Gtown, SJU, @SH, @X, @Prov, Nova, SH, @Butler, @SJU, Prov, @Gtown. Who knows, maybe their 6-7 start against weak competition was the anomaly? Still, good for them (but bad for the conference) for their hot start.
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Sterling Gibbs with a huge three to knock off creighton. A bunch of good games this afternoon, unc with a big win over Louisville and uk had a ton of trouble scoring against aggies but won in 2ot
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DePaul going to lose by 40
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Butler up @ Seton Hall
Big East is a #$%^ing gauntlet this year, man.
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OT in Jers
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If it wasn't for Sheed, Roosevelt Jones would be far and away the most overrated player in the big east
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Ashton Gibbs might be the player of the year in big east
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Ashton Gibbs might be the player of the year in big east
He almost won it in 2011....
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Does Butler now have the two biggest road wins in Big East play?
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Wow.. Goredmen you want to take back your last post? Jones just took over both ends of the court for a big road win. Hopefully your comments work on Jordan for game tommorow night.
Marco- you are right about Gibbs. Not sure anyone is playing better than him the last few weeks.
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Ashton Gibbs might be the player of the year in big east
He almost won it in 2011....
;D
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got it also
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Ashton Gibbs might be the player of the year in big east
He almost won it in 2011....
Buhhaha
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Wow.. Goredmen you want to take back your last post? Jones just took over both ends of the court for a big road win. Hopefully your comments work on Jordan for game tommorow night.
Marco- you are right about Gibbs. Not sure anyone is playing better than him the last few weeks.
KenPom supports my claim
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Man, Watching Depaul on offense sometimes makes us look like the '96 bulls.
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If it wasn't for Sheed, Roosevelt Jones would be far and away the most overrated player in the big east
You got that from watching the Seton hall game? He played great
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Georgetown students storming the court after beating Nova. Unreal
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Georgetown students storming the court after beating Nova. Unreal
We agree on something.
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Georgetown students storming the court after beating Nova. Unreal
Wait what? That actually happened?
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Georgetown students storming the court after beating Nova. Unreal
Wait what? That actually happened?
Ya. And JT3 said he wish they didn't, in interview on court right after the game
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Georgetown students storming the court after beating Nova. Unreal
Wait what? That actually happened?
Ya. And JT3 said he wish they didn't, in interview on court right after the game
As he should. Remember when wasju's man larry legend hit the game winner against ND? Think the students rushed the court that game hahah
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Great Hall/DePaul game going on
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Does this mean Willard is going to hire Billy Garrett's father?
Can't believe Depaul's record in conference is what it is.
Would have been nice doe DePaul to shoot FT's and 3's against is like they did tonight.
Like us with Dlo, Seton Hall is a far different opponent when Gibbs doesn't play really well. And while I didnt catch the game it looks like he stunk tonight.
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Oh yea and Delgado is a stud
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Why isn't Darrick Wood here?
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C'mon Baldi. He played well at the end but he hasn't done much for Depaul this year. Not time yet for the coronation.
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C'mon Baldi. He played well at the end but he hasn't done much for Depaul this year. Not time yet for the coronation.
Scored 11 points in 15 mins. Would be nice having him the next 2 years. But we got Felx
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 24m 24 minutes ago
When DePaul is in first place, your league isn’t any good
hate this pr$ck, his brother Gregg good dude. Doug reminds me of kids i use to beat up at Hebrew school.
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C'mon Baldi. He played well at the end but he hasn't done much for Depaul this year. Not time yet for the coronation.
Scored 11 points in 15 mins. Would be nice having him the next 2 years. But we got Felx
Did we pass up Wood for Felix?
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C'mon Baldi. He played well at the end but he hasn't done much for Depaul this year. Not time yet for the coronation.
Scored 11 points in 15 mins. Would be nice having him the next 2 years. But we got Felx
Did we pass up Wood for Felix?
Don't remember. But Felix is taking up someone's seat
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C'mon Baldi. He played well at the end but he hasn't done much for Depaul this year. Not time yet for the coronation.
Scored 11 points in 15 mins. Would be nice having him the next 2 years. But we got Felx
Did we pass up Wood for Felix?
He had one good game. Amar Alibegovic and Myles Stewart have each had one good game too. Wood is a Juco transferred that initially committed to STJ in some manor shape or form, and then for whatever reason, possibly his grades, he was no longer ours.
I agree with the sentiment above. It took him a long time to get some real burn at Depaul. Let's see how he plays for the rest of the season.
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 24m 24 minutes ago
When DePaul is in first place, your league isn’t any good
hate this pr$ck, his brother Gregg good dude. Doug reminds me of kids i use to beat up at Hebrew school.
Tough to argue at this point. They beat Hall and us
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C'mon Baldi. He played well at the end but he hasn't done much for Depaul this year. Not time yet for the coronation.
Scored 11 points in 15 mins. Would be nice having him the next 2 years. But we got Felx
Did we pass up Wood for Felix?
He had one good game. Amar Alibegovic and Myles Stewart have each had one good game too. Wood is a Juco transferred that initially committed to STJ in some manor shape or form, and then for whatever reason, possibly his grades, he was no longer ours.
I agree with the sentiment above. It took him a long time to get some real burn at Depaul. Let's see how he plays for the rest of the season.
Stewart had 9 points against Niagara. Not exactly a top 25 team like a Seton Hall. I doubt he's even here next year. Sampson just took all his minutes
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 24m 24 minutes ago
When DePaul is in first place, your league isn’t any good
hate this pr$ck, his brother Gregg good dude. Doug reminds me of kids i use to beat up at Hebrew school.
Tough to argue at this point. They beat Hall and us
Maybe they are better than people are giving them credit for. Garrett is a hell of a player and a good pg can take a team real far. See Uconn, circa last year. And the Kemba year.
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 24m 24 minutes ago
When DePaul is in first place, your league isn’t any good
hate this pr$ck, his brother Gregg good dude. Doug reminds me of kids i use to beat up at Hebrew school.
Tough to argue at this point. They beat Hall and us
Maybe they are better than people are giving them credit for. Garrett is a hell of a player and a good pg can take a team real far. See Uconn, circa last year. And the Kemba year.
Can you name another player on the Team? Other than the 2 mentioned" I can't
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Pot amply stirred. Nicely done Baldi.
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Pot amply stirred. Nicely done Baldi.
Maybe Gottlieb. Not me
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 24m 24 minutes ago
When DePaul is in first place, your league isn’t any good
hate this pr$ck, his brother Gregg good dude. Doug reminds me of kids i use to beat up at Hebrew school.
Tough to argue at this point. They beat Hall and us
Maybe they are better than people are giving them credit for. Garrett is a hell of a player and a good pg can take a team real far. See Uconn, circa last year. And the Kemba year.
Can you name another player on the Team? Other than the 2 mentioned" I can't
I can, but I've watched several of their games this year.
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 24m 24 minutes ago
When DePaul is in first place, your league isn’t any good
hate this pr$ck, his brother Gregg good dude. Doug reminds me of kids i use to beat up at Hebrew school.
Tough to argue at this point. They beat Hall and us
Maybe they are better than people are giving them credit for. Garrett is a hell of a player and a good pg can take a team real far. See Uconn, circa last year. And the Kemba year.
Can you name another player on the Team? Other than the 2 mentioned" I can't
I can, but I've watched several of their games this year.
Ah. Think they are the real deal?
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 24m 24 minutes ago
When DePaul is in first place, your league isn’t any good
hate this pr$ck, his brother Gregg good dude. Doug reminds me of kids i use to beat up at Hebrew school.
Tough to argue at this point. They beat Hall and us
Maybe they are better than people are giving them credit for. Garrett is a hell of a player and a good pg can take a team real far. See Uconn, circa last year. And the Kemba year.
Can you name another player on the Team? Other than the 2 mentioned" I can't
I can, but I've watched several of their games this year.
Ah. Think they are the real deal?
I think they are playing better than they really are, right now. I think Garrett is an excellent pg and has been the reason for their success. Myke Henry and Jaymie Crockett are good players. Their two bigs, Forrest Robinson (soft) and Tommy Hamilton (no contribution) are not that impressive. If we weren't such a weak rebounding team, we would have beaten them even with an injured Dlo.
Edit: Stimage are contributes on both ends of the floor.
2nd edit: If we had Garrett, we would have a solid tourney team. Much better that Jordan.
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We didn't take Felix over Wood
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Doug Gottlieb @GottliebShow · 24m 24 minutes ago
When DePaul is in first place, your league isn’t any good
hate this pr$ck, his brother Gregg good dude. Doug reminds me of kids i use to beat up at Hebrew school.
Tough to argue at this point. They beat Hall and us
Maybe they are better than people are giving them credit for. Garrett is a hell of a player and a good pg can take a team real far. See Uconn, circa last year. And the Kemba year.
Can you name another player on the Team? Other than the 2 mentioned" I can't
I can, but I've watched several of their games this year.
Ah. Think they are the real deal?
I think they are playing better than they really are, right now. I think Garrett is an excellent pg and has been the reason for their success. Myke Henry and Jaymie Crockett are good players. Their two bigs, Forrest Robinson (soft) and Tommy Hamilton (no contribution) are not that impressive. If we weren't such a weak rebounding team, we would have beaten them even with an injured Dlo.
Edit: Stimage are contributes on both ends of the floor.
2nd edit: If we had Garrett, we would have a solid tourney team. Much better that Jordan.
Agree, Garrett is a well schooled, smart & talented player who is always under control. Solid!
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Read the DePaul board before our game . They were down on him, saying he shoots to much and ball hog . I agree with u guys . I think he is good.
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depaul is putting a beat down onXAvier. Still early but down 12 with 10 min left 1sr half
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depaul is putting a beat down onXAvier. Still early but down 12 with 10 min left 1sr half
If you play zone against them, you are helping them out. We'll see if there is an adjustment.
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Both Seton Hall and Creighton got pasted today. Butler probably moves into top 25
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Providence is thumping DePaul right now. Dunn is looking good.
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Seton Hall lost to DePaul again.
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Providence wins @ Gtown and Creighton wins @ Xavier. Not sure what to make of this conference
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Marquette with their first road win in a year. They've just beaten Seton Hall without, IMO, their best player in Matt Carlino.
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Marquette with their first road win in a year. They've just beaten Seton Hall without, IMO, their best player in Matt Carlino.
Glad for WoJo. SH better with Whitehead back or still adjusting while he gets to full speed?
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Marquette with their first road win in a year. They've just beaten Seton Hall without, IMO, their best player in Matt Carlino.
Glad for WoJo. SH better with Whitehead back or still adjusting while he gets to full speed?
Whitehead looked good in his first game after the injury. I didn't see much of their game today, but I read he didn't play too well. Quite a few of their fans aren't fond of Willard, either.
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No quit in Providence. Looked like Xavier was pulling away, but PC stays composed with Cooley having left the game. Chris Dunn is NBA ready or quite near that Imo.
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No quit in Providence. Looked like Xavier was pulling away, but PC stays composed with Cooley having left the game. Chris Dunn is NBA ready or quite near that Imo.
Yep. I think Kris Dunn is done at Providence after the season.
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Dunn is going to be a first round pick and if Whitehead jumps I think he will too. Hope it happens because they are by far the two most annoying fan bases in the current Big East. Serious complexes because when they win they don't get much attention.
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Xavier holds of Prov and capped by a top 10 Sportscenter play of the day
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Have a few buddies who are Seton Hall fans and they told me that there were all kinds of post game comments and tweets from Mobley and Whitehead alluding to locker room strife and in-fighting. Can't find the quotes/tweets but it is funny how quickly this stuff takes a turn in an era of social media and increased media coverage. And, by the way, the majority of the Seton Hall fans I know are not big fans of Willard. I haven't been on their board at all but my guess is that it is probably a lot of anti-Willard chatter.
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Have a few buddies who are Seton Hall fans and they told me that there were all kinds of post game comments and tweets from Mobley and Whitehead alluding to locker room strife and in-fighting. Can't find the quotes/tweets but it is funny how quickly this stuff takes a turn in an era of social media and increased media coverage. And, by the way, the majority of the Seton Hall fans I know are not big fans of Willard. I haven't been on their board at all but my guess is that it is probably a lot of anti-Willard chatter.
Willard wasn't adored by his previous schools fans either. Watching his style of play is like watching paint dry.
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Yea my friends who are Iona alums were kind of split on Willard. Obviously they like Cluess much better and are paranoid that a bigger program might pick him off. I've heard that he wants to remain in the area, and as I don't see St. John's hiring him (though I could be wrong), that would probably leave only Seton Hall as an option.
Only Seton Hall fan on this site is PMG who thinks Willard is a very good X's and O's guy but weak as a recruiter (hence the Tiny, Antigua and Hill additions).
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Yea my friends who are Iona alums were kind of split on Willard. Obviously they like Cluess much better and are paranoid that a bigger program might pick him off. I've heard that he wants to remain in the area, and as I don't see St. John's hiring him (though I could be wrong), that would probably leave only Seton Hall as an option.
Only Seton Hall fan on this site is PMG who thinks Willard is a very good X's and O's guy but weak as a recruiter (hence the Tiny, Antigua and Hill additions).
Gotta watch out for Danny Hurley at Hall
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That would be a dynamite get for Seton Hall, and bad for SJU as he is one of the two or three guys I'd like to see coaching our squad if/when we part ways with Lavin.
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Yea my friends who are Iona alums were kind of split on Willard. Obviously they like Cluess much better and are paranoid that a bigger program might pick him off. I've heard that he wants to remain in the area, and as I don't see St. John's hiring him (though I could be wrong), that would probably leave only Seton Hall as an option.
Only Seton Hall fan on this site is PMG who thinks Willard is a very good X's and O's guy but weak as a recruiter (hence the Tiny, Antigua and Hill additions).
Gotta watch out for Danny Hurley at Hall
Yup & timing may work. Next year his Rhody team will probably reach a very high level & provide impetus for a better opportunity Imo.
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Yea my friends who are Iona alums were kind of split on Willard. Obviously they like Cluess much better and are paranoid that a bigger program might pick him off. I've heard that he wants to remain in the area, and as I don't see St. John's hiring him (though I could be wrong), that would probably leave only Seton Hall as an option.
Only Seton Hall fan on this site is PMG who thinks Willard is a very good X's and O's guy but weak as a recruiter (hence the Tiny, Antigua and Hill additions).
Gotta watch out for Danny Hurley at Hall
Would be more interested in SJU
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For all the negativity around here, and trust me I'm the first to claim the season is over/Fire Lavin after a loss, we could be in worse shape. This conference is unpredictable and the standings are currently bunched up. Aside from Nova (8-2; loss @ msg) and Butler (8-3; swept us), we are in striking distance of every other team ahead of us in the standings. 2 games behind PC in the loss column for 3rd place and we already swept them so we have the tiebreaker. 1 game behind Georgetown with 2 games against them remaining. And even in the loss column with Davier, DePaul, and SH. IMO the biggest games left are the 4 with Gtown and Xaviera. A split of those games is a must. Take care of business Wednesday though, hopefully that's the only thing the team is focused on. If we can finish in the top 5 of this conference we should be a lock to dance and that is certainly not out of reach.
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For all the negativity around here, and trust me I'm the first to claim the season is over/Fire Lavin after a loss, we could be in worse shape. This conference is unpredictable and the standings are currently bunched up. Aside from Nova (8-2; loss @ msg) and Butler (8-3; swept us), we are in striking distance of every other team ahead of us in the standings. 2 games behind PC in the loss column for 3rd place and we already swept them so we have the tiebreaker. 1 game behind Georgetown with 2 games against them remaining. And even in the loss column with Davier, DePaul, and SH. IMO the biggest games left are the 4 with Gtown and Xaviera. A split of those games is a must. Take care of business Wednesday though, hopefully that's the only thing the team is focused on. If we can finish in the top 5 of this conference we should be a lock to dance and that is certainly not out of reach.
I think you nailed it with top 5 finish. I think SJU still controls their own destiny. It's tough to swallow Butler loss at home, Creighton and DePaul losses on road. Take even 2 of those 3 games and the outlook is completely different.
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Take 2 of those and we are all talking about the tourney as an almost certainty right now. Unfortunately this team is all over the place.
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Yea my friends who are Iona alums were kind of split on Willard. Obviously they like Cluess much better and are paranoid that a bigger program might pick him off. I've heard that he wants to remain in the area, and as I don't see St. John's hiring him (though I could be wrong), that would probably leave only Seton Hall as an option.
Only Seton Hall fan on this site is PMG who thinks Willard is a very good X's and O's guy but weak as a recruiter (hence the Tiny, Antigua and Hill additions).
Gotta watch out for Danny Hurley at Hall
Would be more interested in SJU
I've heard Hall had his eye months back.
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Seton Hall loses again today to G'town. That's three in a row and 6 of 8. They're playing their way out of it. That being said, if everyone were to return, they could be really good next year.
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http://www.iheart.com/live/WSOU-895-FM-5252/
Listening to Hall fans go crazy about Willard.
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Watched a lot of this game. Hate to ready into body language but Gibbs was fighting with Willard and others at times, it seemed. Whitehead didn't play well. Delgado is a beast.
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Also we better be prepared to rebound the ball against Gtown or Xavier, especially the latter. I can see Xavier's front line giving us all kinds of problems.
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http://www.iheart.com/live/WSOU-895-FM-5252/ (http://www.iheart.com/live/WSOU-895-FM-5252/)
Listening to Hall fans go crazy about Willard.
And I thought we had problems - whoa!!!! :tickedoff:
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Friend just sent me a link to the Seton Hall board. Holy crap they make this one seem like candy land. Killing Willard and Whitehead. Talking about feuding with Gibbs. Nuts
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Friend(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) just sent me a link to the Seton Hall board. Holy crap they make this one seem like candy land. Killing Willard and Whitehead. Talking about feuding with Gibbs. Nuts
Willard went from coach of the Year nominee to the firing line. If I'm willard, I pull out the us vs. them bag of tricks.
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Friend(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) just sent me a link to the Seton Hall board. Holy crap they make this one seem like candy land. Killing Willard and Whitehead. Talking about feuding with Gibbs. Nuts
Willard went from coach of the Year nominee to the firing line. If I'm willard, I pull out the us vs. them bag of tricks.
Does Willard get to choose which kids on the roster are "us" and which are "them"?
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Friend(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) just sent me a link to the Seton Hall board(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png)(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png)(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png). Holy crap they make this one seem like candy land. Killing Willard and Whitehead. Talking about feuding with Gibbs. Nuts
Willard went from coach of the Year nominee to the firing line. If I'm willard, I pull out the us vs. them bag of tricks.
Does Willard get to choose which kids on the roster are "us" and which are "them"?
Funny. You must know I meant to band together the entire team and get them to look at it as the media and fans are piling on them. That's what I would do. Also, I'd get the guys to realize they're in it together for better of for worse for this season. It's been done quite a few times.
I recall what I call the "My Bloody Valentine" (FSU - called it Valentine's Day Massacre - lol)game the Terps had against FSU in '01. The guys played poorly in the first half, and the crowd was booing them. This was a rare occurrence, and I'm not sure it had happened at all during Gary Williams' term the previous 11 years. The guys rallied at the end, but Terrence Morris missed the three to tie it, losing 74-71.
Walking off the court, Gary started angrily motioning at the booing crowd - he was pissed. This was on the heels of the epic 10 point collapse at home versus Duke (one of the most painful and exciting games I ever saw at Cole). They had lost 5 of 6. Gary rallied the guys in an us against them mode, and they went on to the FF. I'm not saying it is anything close to this, but Willard has got to fire these guys up for one another. He can be stoic during the pressers, but he damn well better show fire in the locker room.
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Jaren Sina is transferring. Must be bad in West Orange
http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2015/02/11/seton-hall-basketball-jaren-sina/23231845/
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Jaren Sina is transferring. Must be bad in West Orange
http://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2015/02/11/seton-hall-basketball-jaren-sina/23231845/
Wow
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Karma rearing its ugly head ....
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Karma rearing its ugly head ....
Hard to argue there....
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/566998626866835456
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http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/021315aaa.html
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Rumors had surfaced there was more to the Seton Hall fiasco. Well, here is a piece on it....
http://jimhaguesports.blogspot.com/2015/02/time-for-willard-to-look-at-man-in-glass.html?spref=tw
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Rumors had surfaced there was more to the Seton Hall fiasco. Well, here is a piece on it....
http://jimhaguesports.blogspot.com/2015/02/time-for-willard-to-look-at-man-in-glass.html?spref=tw
You can read between the lines and imagine the other things that may have been going on. I give credit to Lavin that this program hasn't succumbed to that kindve nonsense when things have been tough.
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Rumors had surfaced there was more to the Seton Hall fiasco. Well, here is a piece on it....
http://jimhaguesports.blogspot.com/2015/02/time-for-willard-to-look-at-man-in-glass.html?spref=tw
You can read between the lines and imagine the other things that may have been going on. I give credit to Lavin that this program hasn't succumbed to that kindve nonsense when things have been tough.
There is an elephant in the room for sure. Showed its ugly self again in this game
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Rumors had surfaced there was more to the Seton Hall fiasco. Well, here is a piece on it....
http://jimhaguesports.blogspot.com/2015/02/time-for-willard-to-look-at-man-in-glass.html?spref=tw
You can read between the lines and imagine the other things that may have been going on. I give credit to Lavin that this program hasn't succumbed to that kindve nonsense when things have been tough.
There is an elephant in the room for sure. Showed its ugly self again in this game
Gibbs and Sina are best of friends, Marco. It's not what you're insinuating.
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Creighton leading Butler late. Johnnies will be 1 game out of a second place tie if Butler goes down.
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8-0 run. Butler now up 2
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Butler pulls it out by 2
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Xavier blowing out Butler at home
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Missed FTs are killing Butler.
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GTown wins @ Butler and sweeps the season series.
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10-22 from the line for Butler. In close games, like tonight, those missed freebies can be a killer.
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Nova is a very good college basketball team, with a very good coach. With that said they haven't scored a point in a little over 6 mins vs. Creighton.
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Wow, Butler out rebounded Georgetown 39-20 and still lost by 6. Maybe the no rebounding theory wasn't so crazy after all, lol. Although, the 45% from the line and 35% from the field might have had something to do with that...
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Nova down 1 with less than a minute left @ Creighton
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Smith from georgetown gets away with a lot of fouls. Looking like we are getting Providence thursday.
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Cooley timeout after a made 3, cutting the Butler lead down to 5. All coaches do it.
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They do, but Y?
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I have been thinking that Butler isn't as talented as some of the other teams in conference. Still thinking that, just dont want to play them. They do what they need to do to win.
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Eli Cain commits to DePaul. Interesting considering Oliver Purnell is widely believed to be in serious jeopardy of losing his job.
Does this mean Purnell is getting a 6th year???
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I bet right about now Whitehead is really glad he went to Seton hall.
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Purnell resigned.
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Purnell resigned.
Wouldn't shock me if that's where Massiello lands.
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Purnell resigned.
Wouldn't shock me if that's where Massiello lands.
I'd be shocked. An NYC guy goes to a Chicago program that hasn't been at all relevant in a long time. I think he'd go to an A10 program before DePaul
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Purnell resigned.
Wouldn't shock me if that's where Massiello lands.
I'd be shocked. An NYC guy goes to a Chicago program that hasn't been at all relevant in a long time. I think he'd go to an A10 program before DePaul
Kind of like NyC hiring an LA guy? Sounds familiar
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Purnell resigned.
Wouldn't shock me if that's where Massiello lands.
I'd be shocked. An NYC guy goes to a Chicago program that hasn't been at all relevant in a long time. I think he'd go to an A10 program before DePaul
Kind of like NyC hiring an LA guy? Sounds familiar
He already left once to go to South Florida.
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Purnell resigned.
Wouldn't shock me if that's where Massiello lands.
I'd be shocked. An NYC guy goes to a Chicago program(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) that hasn't been at all relevant in a long time. I think he'd go to an A10 program before DePaul
Kind of like NyC hiring(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) an LA guy? Sounds familiar
I still suspect there was a gentleman's agreement for Mas to stay two or more years.
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Howland to DePaul
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Howland to DePaul
Agree - best chance of happening
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Howland to DePaul
Agree - best chance of happening
They should hire a young coach. The old retreads haven't exactly worked out
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Howland to DePaul
Agree - best chance of happening
That's possible. But I'm not sure he wants to deal with the grimy, Chicago hoops scene. Howland may not have enough panache for that particular scene.
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Howland to DePaul
Agree - best chance of happening
That's possible. But I'm not sure he wants to deal with the grimy, Chicago hoops scene. Howland may not have enough panache for that particular scene.
That still amazes me that another city could be grimier than NYC, but Chicago surely wins the crown. Even charismatic Groce is having trouble.
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Read the Sports Illustrated article on Howland conduct at UCLA and it will dispel any thoughts of him coaching DePaul or anywhere else.
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http://www.casualhoya.com/2015/3/31/8319357/georgetown-guard-dvauntes-smith-rivera-declares-for-the-nba-draft
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@BigEastTourney: 7 #bigeast teams cracked top 60 in attendance in 2014-15. @gocreighton leading the way, @MarquetteMBB right behind. http://t.co/B71yCvOFyh
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sad that SJU isn't in the top 60... Hopefully this program can finally coneback to where it was.
Would like to know what the capacity was at Carnesseca, it seemed on TV the place was pretty packed.
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Just for two or three games......capacity is just under 6,000 I think.....
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@BSnowScout: http://t.co/44iBhXrJ1P has learned that D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera will return to Georgetown after initially declaring for the draft
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@BSnowScout: http://t.co/44iBhXrJ1P has learned that D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera will return to Georgetown after initially declaring for the draft
Smart move.
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Unless Dunn returns, DSR is probably the pre-season favorite for player of the year in the conference.
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Unless Dunn returns, DSR is probably the pre-season favorite for player of the year in the conference.
Archidiacano?
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Good call. Him too.
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Good call. Him too.
Those guys, Rysheed, Dunham and Roosevelt Jones
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Let's hope Sheed plays to that level. He is talented enough.
Gibbs might be in that group too, so long as he returns to the Hall and him and the Whitehead contingent can get along. Lots of "ifs" with that one though, as both Whitehead and Delgado are going to be looking to go pro after next year.
I think one of the Xavier guys will step up into that category as well. They do a great job with player development. Perhaps Bluett or Reynolds makes the leap.
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sad that SJU isn't in the top 60... Hopefully this program can finally coneback to where it was.
Would like to know what the capacity was at Carnesseca, it seemed on TV the place was pretty packed.
5,602 capacity at CA. Sold out for two games, two others were 5k+. Opening night did 4,700.
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Unless Dunn returns, DSR is probably the pre-season favorite for player of the year in the conference.
He's gone, no? I thought he declared last week.
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Unless Dunn returns, DSR is probably the pre-season favorite for player of the year in the conference.
He's gone, no? I thought he declared last week.
I heard Dunn as of yesterday is leaning towards coming back. Kind of shocked.
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Unless Dunn returns, DSR is probably the pre-season favorite for player of the year in the conference.
He's gone, no? I thought he declared last week.
I heard Dunn as of yesterday is leaning towards coming back. Kind of shocked.
I as referring to Smith-rivera. I thought Rivera would be back, but he's not coming back.
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Rivera changed his mind and will be at GT.
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Unless Dunn returns, DSR is probably the pre-season favorite for player of the year in the conference.
He's gone, no? I thought he declared last week.
I heard Dunn as of yesterday is leaning towards coming back. Kind of shocked.
I as referring to Smith-rivera. I thought Rivera would be back, but he's not coming back.
Said he withdrew his name from the draft and will be back at Georgetown next year.
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Unless Dunn returns, DSR is probably the pre-season favorite for player of the year in the conference.
He's gone, no? I thought he declared last week.
I heard Dunn as of yesterday is leaning towards coming back. Kind of shocked.
I as referring to Smith-rivera. I thought Rivera would be back, but he's not coming back.
Said he withdrew his name from the draft and will be back at Georgetown next year.
whoa. Good thing he got smart before the 25th. Next year will benefit him
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@JonRothstein: Kansas State transfer Marcus Foster will visit Creighton this weekend (4/17-19), source told @CBSSports. LSU also in the mix.
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@JonRothstein: Georgetown will take a foreign tour to Italy in August, JT3 told @CBSSports. Hoyas will play exhibition games and have 10 practices.
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
Why? give us a big game. I want a Wisconsin return game.
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Why would Nova get Nebraska? I want to play Michigan, Michigan St., or Ohio State.
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That's awful. Would think they would try to give Nova a better matchup
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
Why? give us a big game. I want a Wisconsin return game.
In 3 years I would agree. Think we will struggle next year.
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
Why? give us a big game. I want a Wisconsin return game.
In 3 years I would agree. Think we will struggle next year.
I wont be surprised or upset if we do struggle next year. But regardless I'd rather play the best teams from the big 10 each year. Publicity and a good measuring stick.
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
Why? give us a big game. I want a Wisconsin return game.
In 3 years I would agree. Think we will struggle next year.
I wont be surprised or upset if we do struggle next year. But regardless I'd rather play the best teams from the big 10 each year. Publicity and a good measuring stick.
My early Marillac-esque prediction is next years team will have a better record than Lavin's 2nd year.
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
Why? give us a big game. I want a Wisconsin return game.
In 3 years I would agree. Think we will struggle next year.
I wont be surprised or upset if we do struggle next year. But regardless I'd rather play the best teams from the big 10 each year. Publicity and a good measuring stick.
My early Marillac-esque prediction is next years team will have a better record than Lavin's 2nd year.
+/- 13 wins and moose has the over? Me too, different league though.
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If we have Jordan we can be good.
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
Why? give us a big game. I want a Wisconsin return game.
In 3 years I would agree. Think we will struggle next year.
I wont be surprised or upset if we do struggle next year. But regardless I'd rather play the best teams from the big 10 each year. Publicity and a good measuring stick.
My early Marillac-esque prediction is next years team will have a better record than Lavin's 2nd year.
All depends on who else is added. Staff has filled some holes but we need to replace a lot of offense. Jordan and Williams will help but we need another player or two that can put the ball in the basket. Really hope they can pull off a miracle.
With that said I am very happy that they are building a roster for the next few years.
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@JonRothstein: Georgetown will take a foreign tour to Italy in August, JT3 told @CBSSports. Hoyas will play exhibition games and have 10 practices.
And in a related note coach JT3 said he expects this Hoya squad to jell by Feb or March. :)
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@JonRothstein: Georgetown will take a foreign tour to Italy in August, JT3 told @CBSSports. Hoyas will play exhibition games and have 10 practices.
And in a related note coach JT3 said he expects this Hoya squad to jell by Feb or March. :)
i went to Georgetown for the first time this weekend... WOW. beautiful city and campus. truly has to be one of the best college environments in the country.
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@JonRothstein: Villanova and Oklahoma will play a neutral site game in Hawaii on 12/7/15, sources told @CBSSports. Story: http://t.co/Yimwpl8Zz2
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@JonRothstein: Georgetown will take a foreign tour to Italy in August, JT3 told @CBSSports. Hoyas will play exhibition games and have 10 practices.
And in a related note coach JT3 said he expects this Hoya squad to jell by Feb or March. :)
i went to Georgetown for the first time this weekend... WOW. beautiful city and campus. truly has to be one of the best college environments in the country.
Spent my 4 undergrad years down there and many more years down there with my relatives in the summers. It is a great city with a ton to offer a college kid. However, once you graduate, it's time to move on unless you work in politics or something related to the federal gov't. DC has changed a ton for the better (much safer) since the early 2000's.
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@JonRothstein: Villanova and Oklahoma will play a neutral site game in Hawaii on 12/7/15, sources told @CBSSports. Story: http://t.co/Yimwpl8Zz2
A date which will live in infamy
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
The challenge offers some great natural rivalries that do not get played often such as Georgetown/MD; Xavier/Ohio St.; Butler/Indiana-Purdue; DePaul/NW-Ill; Marquette/Wisc-Minn; Creighton/Neb-Iowa; Nova/Penn St.; SH/RU; and what I would love as a double header in MSG SJU & Prov/ Mich & MSU
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@JonRothstein: Villanova will host Nebraska as part of the Big East-Big Ten Challenge, source told @CBSSports. Dates expected to be announced this week.
I'm still hoping we get a team like Nebraska.
The challenge offers some great natural rivalries that do not get played often such as Georgetown/MD; Xavier/Ohio St.; Butler/Indiana-Purdue; DePaul/NW-Ill; Marquette/Wisc-Minn; Creighton/Neb-Iowa; Nova/Penn St.; SH/RU; and what I would love as a double header in MSG SJU & Prov/ Mich & MSU
Man that would be great if they did a double header at MSG ever year. Contingent on us being a part of it of course.
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@GoodmanESPN: Kansas State transfer Marcus Foster is headed to weekend visit to Creighton. Told ESPN he is also considering Miami, LSU, Gonzaga.
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@JonRothstein: Georgetown will take a foreign tour to Italy in August, JT3 told @CBSSports. Hoyas will play exhibition games and have 10 practices.
And in a related note coach JT3 said he expects this Hoya squad to jell by Feb or March. :)
i went to Georgetown for the first time this weekend... WOW. beautiful city and campus. truly has to be one of the best college environments in the country.
I went there in 2012 when the Hoyas were recruiting my son. I felt truly sick thinking that I could have a kid at Georgetown. Honestly though a wonderful institution, beautiful campus, city, and their athletic facilities are very nice.
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@NYPost_Brazille: At least Big East-Big Ten Challenge got one game right with Georgetown-Maryland. That's very good.
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@NYPost_Brazille: At least Big East-Big Ten Challenge got one game right with Georgetown-Maryland. That's very good.
I've been waiting for that one for 22 years - lol. GTown's been bitching about no home court advantage at Verizon Ctr.
Perfect time to play them ;D
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@BSnowScout: B1G v Big East
Xavier @ Michigan
Creighton @ Ind
Rutgers @ St. John's
Ill @ Prov
Neb @ Nova
Penn St vs DePaul
Iowa vs Marquette
G'town vs MD
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@BSnowScout: B1G v Big East
Xavier @ Michigan
Creighton @ Ind
Rutgers @ St. John's
Ill @ Prov
Neb @ Nova
Penn St vs DePaul
Iowa vs Marquette
G'town vs MD
So no mich st, wisc, or ohio st, in the first year. Those are the guys I want.
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Nova got the worst matchup. Then us.
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@BSnowScout: B1G v Big East
Xavier @ Michigan
Creighton @ Ind
Rutgers @ St. John's
Ill @ Prov
Neb @ Nova
Penn St vs DePaul
Iowa vs Marquette
G'town vs MD
Who ever put this together should be fired. Penn.State vs Depaul. Awful
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Aside from Georgetown/Maryland, zzzzzz.
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Aside from Georgetown/Maryland, zzzzzz.
Totally agree. As for SJU-Rutgers I would rather see the surviving members of the 75-76 teams play each other. :)
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@NYPost_Brazille: Big East and Big Ten officially announce underwhelming slate of games. #sjubb-Rutgers Nov. 19 at MSG.
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The 2 leagues blew it with not having some natural rivalries and putting this for the most part, in campus arenas. Should have selected 4 venues for doubleheaders in major cities impacting conferences such as NY, DC, Chi and Indianapolis--all have major NBA arenas and make them rivalry games where the teams don't usually play each other.
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The 2 leagues blew it with not having some natural rivalries and putting this for the most part, in campus arenas. Should have selected 4 venues for doubleheaders in major cities impacting conferences such as NY, DC, Chi and Indianapolis--all have major NBA arenas and make them rivalry games where the teams don't usually play each other.
They should have done more to create real draws. SJU vs Michigan and Nova vs Michigan State at the Garden would have been great. Two Michigan teams, lots of Michigan school alums in NYC. Another double header with georgetown vs Maryland and Wisconsin vs marquette in DC or Chicago. If they needed to match up Rutgers, it should have been with the hall as a triple header at msg. Plenty of other good choices but they screwed it up.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Big East and Big Ten officially announce underwhelming slate of games. #sjubb-Rutgers Nov. 19 at MSG.
Game will be at CA. Billy Joel concert at MSG on Nov 19.
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@NYPost_Brazille: Big East and Big Ten officially announce underwhelming slate of games. #sjubb-Rutgers Nov. 19 at MSG.
Game will be at CA. Billy Joel concert at MSG on Nov 19.
That's actually not too bad then, it's easy for the students to attend and should be a fun environment as (one of) the first home games for mullin versus an empty msg. now I don't mind that it's rutgers so much
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@NYPost_Brazille: Big East and Big Ten officially announce underwhelming slate of games. #sjubb-Rutgers Nov. 19 at MSG.
Game will be at CA. Billy Joel concert at MSG on Nov 19.
Damn, was hoping Billy Joel was playing at halftime of the SJU-Rutgers game.
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Is just bad scheduling is it that the B10 doesn't respect the BE?
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Would I have liked to play MSU or Mich? Sure
But Maui is gonna be a killer for us for starters. I'll take an easy one to help us get above 500
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Would I have liked to play MSU or Mich? Sure
But Maui is gonna be a killer for us for starters. I'll take an easy one to help us get above 500
Agree. Being above 500 is key to our future recruiting. Other coaches would use it against us if we are a below 500 team next year. Once we have the horses play the best teams out there.
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Another thing I'd add is that UK also has Skal Labisierre coming in who is also a PF and even ranked above Cheick. That is going to force Cheick into either a center role or elsewhere, when both guys are really both PF's. He won't have automatic access to the PF minutes at UK.
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@EvanDaniels: Eric Cobb, a 6-9 big man that recently decommitted from Kansas State, will take an unofficial visit to Seton Hall today, per a source.
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Pascal to Nova per zags
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Pascal to Nova per zags
@AdamZagoria: Fordham Transfer Eric Paschall to Commit to Villanova http://t.co/GM7ptKlsxx
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@EvanDaniels: Kris Dunn is headed back to Providence, per sources. Official announcement coming at 1:00 ET.
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With all the talk about VCU and possible expansion- interesting piece
http://www.statesman.com/news/sports/college-basketball/how-much-will-vcu-miss-smart-texas-you-stole-the-h/nk3by/#__federated=1
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@JonRothstein: Michigan transfer Max Bielfeldt is currently visiting DePaul, source told @CBSSports. Stanford, BC, + Iowa St in mix. Eligible immediately.
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@MarquetteMBB: 2015 #mubb recruiting class finishes among best in nation. @steve_wojo http://t.co/uqXXjzGEVe http://t.co/86a9ihHFcC
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@MarquetteMBB: 2015 #mubb recruiting class finishes among best in nation. @steve_wojo http://t.co/uqXXjzGEVe http://t.co/86a9ihHFcC
Good for the league...
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Lots of people on Twitter think Chris Mack would be a good hire for Florida.
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Lots of people on Twitter think Chris Mack would be a good hire for Florida.
That would be a tough blow for the conference
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Lots of people on Twitter think Chris Mack would be a good hire for Florida.
That would be a tough blow for the conference
Not as big a loss as Jay Wright, who they will throw a ton of $ at
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Lots of people on Twitter think Chris Mack would be a good hire for Florida.
That would be a tough blow for the conference
Not as big a loss as Jay Wright, who they will throw a ton of $ at
I think Wright will go for it if the price is right
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Lots of people on Twitter think Chris Mack would be a good hire for Florida.
I only read the Xavier boards when we are about to play them. Their fans don't love him.
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Lots of people on Twitter think Chris Mack would be a good hire for Florida.
That would be a tough blow for the conference
Not as big a loss as Jay Wright, who they will throw a ton of $ at
I think Wright will go for it if the price is right
I don't think he's going anywhere. But they will try
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I'd be shocked if Florida didn't look at Steve Lavin for their opening.
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Lots of people on Twitter think Chris Mack would be a good hire for Florida.
That would be a tough blow for the conference
Not as big a loss as Jay Wright, who they will throw a ton of $ at
I think Wright will go for it if the price is right
I don't think he's going anywhere. But they will try
I saw a piece on Beast network, and it seems really happy there. Big Fish, little bit smaller pond theory maybe
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Wright ain't going to Florida. There are probably only a couple of pro/college jobs he would leave for, if that. Nova is his kingdom and dream job in many respects.
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I'd be shocked if Florida didn't look at Steve Lavin for their opening.
I bet he would do fine there.
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I'd be shocked if Florida didn't look at Steve Lavin for their opening.
I bet he would do fine there.
Well - put it this way - Chris Mack or Steve Lavin?
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I'd be shocked if Florida didn't look at Steve Lavin for their opening.
I bet he would do fine there.
Well - put it this way - Chris Mack or Steve Lavin?
Very close in my mind. I don't hate the guy like most of you. At Florida, he would recruit well and make the tournament. He would also say stupid things and bother some people.
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Wright ain't going to Florida. There are probably only a couple of pro/college jobs he would leave for, if that. Nova is his kingdom and dream job in many respects.
Duke is the only job he leaves for
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I'd be shocked if Florida didn't look at Steve Lavin for their opening.
I bet he would do fine there.
Well - put it this way - Chris Mack or Steve Lavin?
Very close in my mind. I don't hate the guy like most of you. At Florida, he would recruit well and make the tournament. He would also say stupid things and bother some people.
I don't hate Lavin - only Christian Laettner - but I don't hate him anymore - just Duke....jk
Here's the rundown for coaches - Lavin not mentioned on CBSSports
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25168953/who-shouldwill-florida-hire-to-replace-billy-donovan-as-basketball-coach
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I'd be shocked if Florida didn't look at Steve Lavin for their opening.
I bet he would do fine there.
Well - put it this way - Chris Mack or Steve Lavin?
Very close in my mind. I don't hate the guy like most of you. At Florida, he would recruit well and make the tournament. He would also say stupid things and bother some people.
Florida Atlantic Gulf Coastal State wouldn't even give Lavin an interview if they had an opening.
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I'd be shocked if Florida didn't look at Steve Lavin for their opening.
I bet he would do fine there.
Well - put it this way - Chris Mack or Steve Lavin?
Very close in my mind. I don't hate the guy like most of you. At Florida, he would recruit well and make the tournament. He would also say stupid things and bother some people.
Florida Atlantic Gulf Coastal State wouldn't even give Lavin an interview if they had an opening.
You may have to seek some therapy, Desco.
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They may decide to skip the therapy and institutionalize instead.
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I'd be shocked if Florida didn't look at Steve Lavin for their opening.
Before or after they look at Antigua?
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Lavs will do TV for a couple of years then take a Northern Cali job like U of SF
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Anyone who thinks Lavin will be a candidate at Florida is out of their mind lol. He will do some tv like the previous poster said and end up at a west coast school although I think his next job will be better then San Fran
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Anyone who thinks Lavin will be a candidate at Florida is out of their mind lol. He will do some tv like the previous poster said and end up at a west coast school although I think his next job will be better then San Fran
Don't worry, it's just Desco continuing to bash Lavin any chance he can. Eventually the hard on he has for Lavin will die down.
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Anyone who thinks Lavin will be a candidate at Florida is out of their mind lol. He will do some tv like the previous poster said and end up at a west coast school although I think his next job will be better then San Fran
Don't worry, it's just Desco continuing to bash Lavin any chance he can. Eventually the hard on he has for Lavin will die down.
I think the best place for him would be to replace Ben Howland at Fox--Ben was rather dull something one can not attribute to Coach Lavin. His personality is clearly TV oriented and I think he could have a long career in that medium rather than on the bench.
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@MarquetteMBB: 2015 #mubb recruiting class finishes among best in nation. @steve_wojo http://t.co/uqXXjzGEVe http://t.co/86a9ihHFcC
Good for the league...
My niece will be attending Marquette and be a member of the dance team this coming year. Pairing that with my father being recruited by them back in the day, Baldi has a 3rd team to root for
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@MarquetteMBB: 2015 #mubb recruiting class finishes among best in nation. @steve_wojo http://t.co/uqXXjzGEVe (http://t.co/uqXXjzGEVe) http://t.co/86a9ihHFcC (http://t.co/86a9ihHFcC)
Good for the league...
My niece will be attending Marquette and be a member of the dance team this coming year. Pairing that with my father being recruited by them back in the day, Baldi has a 3rd team to root for
Bandwagoning the mighty Wojo
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Anyone who thinks Lavin will be a candidate at Florida is out of their mind lol. He will do some tv like the previous poster said and end up at a west coast school although I think his next job will be better then San Fran
Don't worry, it's just Desco continuing to bash Lavin any chance he can. Eventually the hard on he has for Lavin will die down.
Not likely. I don't suffer fools well.
Why would my estimation of Lavin die down over time?
SL is dumb and a poor manager of personnel. Aside from that I don't feel very strongly about him one way or another.
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Anyone who thinks Lavin will be a candidate at Florida is out of their mind lol. He will do some tv like the previous poster said and end up at a west coast school although I think his next job will be better then San Fran
Don't worry, it's just Desco continuing to bash Lavin any chance he can. Eventually the hard on he has for Lavin will die down.
Not likely. I don't suffer fools well.
Why would my estimation of Lavin die down over time?
SL is dumb and a poor manager of personnel. Aside from that I don't feel very strongly about him one way or another.
i bet Lav doesn't coach again. great man, just doesn't appear to have the work ethic required to be successful.
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Anyone who thinks Lavin will be a candidate at Florida is out of their mind lol. He will do some tv like the previous poster said and end up at a west coast school although I think his next job will be better then San Fran
Don't worry, it's just Desco continuing to bash Lavin any chance he can. Eventually the hard on he has for Lavin will die down.
Not likely. I don't suffer fools well.
Why would my estimation of Lavin die down over time?
SL is dumb and a poor manager of personnel. Aside from that I don't feel very strongly about him one way or another.
I think that quote means, you won't deal with folks who consider to be foolish, and move on. Maybe, you have a different interpretation of the quote.
I'm wondering if he screwed you over personally. Otherwise, your mania seems a bit odd. No offense, you should move on or show yourself to be petty. I wanna believe you're better than that.
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Tyler Foster, 2017 SG, to Georgetown:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/high-school/varsity-letters/bal-gilman-guard-tyler-foster-commits-to-georgetown-20150610-story.html
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Tyler Foster, 2017 SG, to Georgetown:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/high-school/varsity-letters/bal-gilman-guard-tyler-foster-commits-to-georgetown-20150610-story.html
Very tight with Rafus btw.
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Tyler Foster, 2017 SG, to Georgetown:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/high-school/varsity-letters/bal-gilman-guard-tyler-foster-commits-to-georgetown-20150610-story.html (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/high-school/varsity-letters/bal-gilman-guard-tyler-foster-commits-to-georgetown-20150610-story.html)
Very tight with Rafus btw.
When I was looking at all Baltimore area top recruits these next couple of years, the cupboard is pretty bare. When it changes a bit, I hope we can pluck one or two from DMV area teams.
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@ikhurshudyan: Virginia basketball will host Villanova on Dec. 19 at JPJ, UVa announces. Return game will be during 2016-17 season in Philly.
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@BigEastDaily: Quadree Smith's long basketball journey ends with late commitment to Providence http://t.co/PcbvvFogWD http://t.co/mS226QyZOP
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@Brian_Ewart: Villanova Athletic Director Vince Nicastro steps down http://t.co/sPCP8mwKH3 http://t.co/x3N5a1eaAe
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@TheRecruitScoop: RT @AdamZagoria: Seton Hall is hosting 2016 center Rodney Miller & 2016 guard Myles Powell today. They had 2016 big Nysier Brooks on Tues.
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Cooley is not having good fortune lately;
@UndercoverFriar: 2015 PC Signee Alex Owens has not qualified and will not attend Providence. Will be at Tallahassee Community College for this year. #pcbb
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Watching the U19 team play Papa and Greece right now in the FIBA World Championship. Jalen Brunson, Rick's son, is a lefty floor general and is easily the best player on the floor. He's going to fit Nova's system perfectly, and is going to be a great representative of the Big East next season. Special talent.
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Watching the U19 team play Papa and Greece right now in the FIBA World Championship. Jalen Brunson, Rick's son, is a lefty floor general and is easily the best player on the floor. He's going to fit Nova's system perfectly, and is going to be a great representative of the Big East next season. Special talent.
Stud with a winning attitude. He & Onari Spellman 16 will add a lot of physicality to Nova down the road.
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And to think had brunson's old man not gotten in trouble days before he was announced as an AC both dad and jalen would've been at temple. Crazy how it worked out for Jay wright
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Watching the U19 team play Papa and Greece right now in the FIBA World Championship. Jalen Brunson, Rick's son, is a lefty floor general and is easily the best player on the floor. He's going to fit Nova's system perfectly, and is going to be a great representative of the Big East next season. Special talent.
Stud with a winning attitude. He & Onari Spellman 16 will add a lot of physicality to Nova down the road.
They may not be as dominant in the regular season, but they'll go further in the tournament next year with Brunson. Very unathletic team this past season--really the whole Big East was lacking in this category. Time to address that in the recruiting game.
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@ESPNAndyKatz: Great idea by Big East. Like a professional rookie symposium. More leagues should follow. https://t.co/Qbw2rL4aOU
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Sounds like a nice get for Seton Hall
http://zagsblog.com/articles/myles-powell-to-seton-hall/
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/seton-hall-offers-sports-u-team-izod-fab-5/
Would be some package deal.
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Just booked flight and hotel for SJU @ Marquette
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Just booked flight and hotel for SJU @ Marquette
No one should ever question your fan loyalty again :)
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Just booked flight and hotel for SJU @ Marquette
No one should ever question your fan loyalty again :)
Haha. My niece is a freshman on the Marquette dance team
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picture.....???
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@UndercoverFriar: There will be a big announcement today from @PCAthletics and @PCBobDriscoll regarding men's basketball. It's a great day in Friartown. #pcbb
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@NYPost_Brazille: #SJUBB big man Yankuba Sima Big East Rookie of Week.
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@UndercoverFriar: There will be a big announcement today from @PCAthletics and @PCBobDriscoll regarding men's basketball. It's a great day in Friartown. #pcbb
What was the big announcement?
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I could watch kris Dunn all day. Such an exciting player. He is going to steal a lot of games for an otherwise average providence team
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@UndercoverFriar: There will be a big announcement today from @PCAthletics and @PCBobDriscoll regarding men's basketball. It's a great day in Friartown. #pcbb
What was the big announcement?
Facilities expansion I believe
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Big win for Providence
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Big East's stock is way UP this year.
Providence beating Zona to get to their tourney finals. Nova winning NIT tip off. Xavier in the finals of their tourney. G'town taking Maryland and Duke down to the final moments.
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@HolyLandofHoops: Awesome to see 4 @BIGEASTMBB in the latest Coaches Poll:
7 - Villanova
18 - Xavier
24 - Providence
25 - Butler
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@HolyLandofHoops: Awesome to see 4 @BIGEASTMBB in the latest Coaches Poll:
7 - Villanova
18 - Xavier
24 - Providence
25 - Butler
Xavier only at 18th is a joke
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@HolyLandofHoops: Awesome to see 4 @BIGEASTMBB in the latest Coaches Poll:
7 - Villanova
18 - Xavier
24 - Providence
25 - Butler
Butler only at 18th is a joke
In AP poll;
@NYPost_Brazille: Villanova (8), Xavier (12), Providence (23) of @BIGEASTMBB ranked in Top 25. G'Town, Butler getting votes. Imagine if league was any good?
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Seton hall started slowly but beat up on Rutgers . A few guys didn't start. I read on holy land of hoops they got into a fight with other students. Not sure if that is true. I hope they implode before we play them .
In SEC network now South Carolina killing s. Florida.
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Carrington & Desi R did not start due to lateness. After game KW noted team needing to develop some maturity. See what happens when you don't have Tiny. :)
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Seton hall started slowly but beat up on Rutgers . A few guys didn't start. I read on holy land of hoops they got into a fight with other students. Not sure if that is true. I hope they implode before we play them .
In SEC network now South Carolina killing s. Florida.
If they implode before they play us they will only beat us by 15 instead of 30
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Those two, IW and/or Delgado could repeatedly break every rule Willard has and there will be no serious discipline. He wants that extension.
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My stomach can handle 15 better then 30. I think their is no chance Willard gets extended. I don't think seton hall will ever be good.
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My stomach can handle 15 better then 30. I think their is no chance Willard gets extended. I don't think seton hall will ever be good.
I seem to recall KW helped the SH AD get his job.
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Monmouth defeats G'Town 83-68.
That makes wins over UCLA, Notre Dame, and G'Town for Monmouth thus far. Wow.
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Monmouth defeats G'Town 83-68.
That makes wins over UCLA, Notre Dame, and G'Town for Monmouth thus far. Wow.
They are the best team in the area and there probably isn't even a close second. Not sure how they lost to Canisius
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Monmouth defeats G'Town 83-68.
That makes wins over UCLA, Notre Dame, and G'Town for Monmouth thus far. Wow.
And USC
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Monmouth defeats G'Town 83-68.
That makes wins over UCLA, Notre Dame, and G'Town for Monmouth thus far. Wow.
And USC
Wasn't USC a split?
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Seton Hall destroying Marquette, up 19 with a minute to go. Delgado has been a beast destroying M'Q bigs.
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Seton Hall destroying Marquette, up 19 with a minute to go. Delgado has been a beast destroying M'Q bigs.
Really impressed with Whitehead tonight. alog with Delgado, Desi and Carrington, Hall is tough
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The Hall positioned nicely for next few years. With or without Whitehead.
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If they lose Delgado and Whitehead to the pros after this year -- which is what's expected -- I don't think they will be good at all next year. And you assume that Desi and Carrington both stay when Whitehead leaves, Desi in particular.
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Desi reminds me of DJ Kennedy. Very impressed with him for an under-the-radar guy.
Agree on Carrington too - wish we would have landed him (obviously I think both Whitehead and Delgado are very impressive young players).
Seton Hall destroying Marquette, up 19 with a minute to go. Delgado has been a beast destroying M'Q bigs.
Really impressed with Whitehead tonight. alog with Delgado, Desi and Carrington, Hall is tough
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The Hall positioned nicely for next few years. With or without Whitehead.
Similar things were said at this time last season, in regards to Seton Hall.
Time will tell. Too early for that kinda prognostication, IMO.
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If they lose Delgado and Whitehead to the pros after this year -- which is what's expected -- I don't think they will be good at all next year. And you assume that Desi and Carrington both stay when Whitehead leaves, Desi in particular.
I think Carrington and Desi would be one of the better upperclassmen combos in the league. Carrington is my guy, he would look great at sju. But you are assuming more than I am. Hasnt been much talk of Delgado leaving plus who knows what Whitehead will do. Maybe he sees Kris Dunns' approach and goes that route. Their two PF's Nzei and Sanogo have shown great promise as well and they have our old friend Jevon thomas sitting next year. There will be plenty of NY talent gooing at it next year when we face off.
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I'm a big fan of both Carrington and Desi. I just think it may be different when those guys become the "guys" as opposed to complimentary pieces. I've read on the Seton Hall boards, and spoke to Seton Hall fans, who all have told me that Delgado's goal is to be gone after this season. Maybe Willard convinces him to stay. As far as Whitehead, I think his development as a point means he is as good as gone.
If they lose Delgado and Whitehead to the pros after this year -- which is what's expected -- I don't think they will be good at all next year. And you assume that Desi and Carrington both stay when Whitehead leaves, Desi in particular.
I think Carrington and Desi would be one of the better upperclassmen combos in the league. Carrington is my guy, he would look great at sju. But you are assuming more than I am. Hasnt been much talk of Delgado leaving plus who knows what Whitehead will do. Maybe he sees Kris Dunns' approach and goes that route. Their two PF's Nzei and Sanogo have shown great promise as well and they have our old friend Jevon thomas sitting next year. There will be plenty of NY talent gooing at it next year when we face off.
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Halftime Score from Allstate Arena - Georgetown 32, DePaul 27
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Didn't realize BE did away with all 10 playing on NYE. Nice job Val.........
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The Hall positioned nicely for next few years. With or without Whitehead.
Similar things were said at this time last season, in regards to Seton Hall.
Time will tell. Too early for that kinda prognostication, IMO.
Yeah I think they upset a top 15 team last New Year's Eve .
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The Hall positioned nicely for next few years. With or without Whitehead.
Similar things were said at this time last season, in regards to Seton Hall.
Time will tell. Too early for that kinda prognostication, IMO.
Yeah I think they upset a top 15 team last New Year's Eve .
I saw what you did. Ha!
Not to mention, Marquette doesn't do anything for me. They could change my opinion, as the season progresses. But currently, I haven't been impressed (at all) by what I've seen from 'em.
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Didn't realize BE did away with all 10 playing on NYE. Nice job Val.........
The marathon is on Jan 2 now bc of CFP.
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Didn't realize BE did away with all 10 playing on NYE. Nice job Val.........
The marathon is on Jan 2 now bc of CFP.
Funny. Most football fans hate that those two games are today
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The Hall positioned nicely for next few years. With or without Whitehead.
Similar things were said at this time last season, in regards to Seton Hall.
Time will tell. Too early for that kinda prognostication, IMO.
Yeah I think they upset a top 15 team last New Year's Eve .
I saw what you did. Ha!
Not to mention, Marquette doesn't do anything for me. They could change my opinion, as the season progresses. But currently, I haven't been impressed (at all) by what I've seen from 'em.
Marquettes guards are awful and have no one who can stick the jumper consistently. I would pack it in against them all day long
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Didn't realize BE did away with all 10 playing on NYE. Nice job Val.........
The marathon is on Jan 2 now bc of CFP.
Funny. Most football fans hate that those two games are today
+1000
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Williard and seton hall trying to lose vs DePaul.
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First half of Butler vs. Nova game was aggressive but kind of sloppy for both teams.
Butlers home and up by 6 at half. should be an interesting 2nd half.
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Kelan Martin and Ellenson battling. Great game
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DePaul pulled off the upset, exciting game.
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The officials in this butler sh game are atrocious. One bad call after another
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As expected per @DraftExpress
Been told Ellenson camp already scheduling agent meetings, and only a matter of time until we get an official announcement on him entering.
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Kevin McNamara – @KevinMcNamara33
Providence College and coach Ed Cooley working on contract extension https://shar.es/1Yev0l via @projo
Providence Journal
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For your reading enjoyment. Jae Crowder was one of the fiercest defenders I had seen play against the Johnnies. This is a inspiring article of perseverance and determination, what a rise to the top. Also some really great excerpts about Buzz as well, who remains one of my favorite HC's:
"When he got there he thought he was going to come in and do whatever he wanted," Butler added. "And then he figured, 'Yo, Buzz has a lot of guys that play hard, that are just like me.' And then he realized, 'I'm going to work on my game.' When he got to Marquette and that mother------ started to work, that's why he went from being National Juco Player of the Year to Big East Player of the Year. That mother------ worked."
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2016/04/jae_crowders_bumpy_rise_how_bo.html
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Big loss IMO for PC if this happens
Mark Anderson – Verified account @markanderson65
Providence associate hc Andre LaFleur and New Mexico State special asst. to hc Brandon Mason will join #UNLVmbb staff, sources said. #RJnow
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They are surprisingly very calm about this on the Providence board. Essentially stating that he is the least valuable assistant on the staff, and that they can either promote Shamgod to help with the recruiting element and PG development or add another experienced X's and O's guy.
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Per Rothstein;
Villanova's Kris Jenkins announces that he's returning to school next year, per his twitter page. Originally made plans known two weeks ago.
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Per Rothstein;
2016 guard Eron Gordon has committed to Seton Hall, per his twitter page. #shbb
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
I think they're still a good team. They should have 3 All BE players in Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado. Jevon Thomas will also be eligible and with with 3 proven scorers, he could be exactly what they need to replace Whitehead. I'd still place them in the top 3/4 teams in the BE.
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
I think they're still a good team. They should have 3 All BE players in Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado. Jevon Thomas will also be eligible and with with 3 proven scorers, he could be exactly what they need to replace Whitehead. I'd still place them in the top 3/4 teams in the BE.
You're such a glass half-full type of guy.
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
I think they're still a good team. They should have 3 All BE players in Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado. Jevon Thomas will also be eligible and with with 3 proven scorers, he could be exactly what they need to replace Whitehead. I'd still place them in the top 3/4 teams in the BE.
Fwiw Thomas will not be eligible for first semester due to grades issue. Starting lineup up of Carrington Rodrigues Sonago Delgado and the better of the two frosh will be pretty good. Carrington could be first team BE this year
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
I think they're still a good team. They should have 3 All BE players in Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado. Jevon Thomas will also be eligible and with with 3 proven scorers, he could be exactly what they need to replace Whitehead. I'd still place them in the top 3/4 teams in the BE.
You're such a glass half-full type of guy.
They beat the national champion. Respect?
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
I think they're still a good team. They should have 3 All BE players in Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado. Jevon Thomas will also be eligible and with with 3 proven scorers, he could be exactly what they need to replace Whitehead. I'd still place them in the top 3/4 teams in the BE.
You're such a glass half-full type of guy.
They beat the national champion. Respect?
Think twice, once in reg season and in BE final if i'm not mistaken.
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
I think they're still a good team. They should have 3 All BE players in Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado. Jevon Thomas will also be eligible and with with 3 proven scorers, he could be exactly what they need to replace Whitehead. I'd still place them in the top 3/4 teams in the BE.
You're such a glass half-full type of guy.
They beat the national champion. Respect?
Think twice, once in reg season and in BE final if i'm not mistaken.
But who's counting?
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
I think they're still a good team. They should have 3 All BE players in Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado. Jevon Thomas will also be eligible and with with 3 proven scorers, he could be exactly what they need to replace Whitehead. I'd still place them in the top 3/4 teams in the BE.
You're such a glass half-full type of guy.
They beat the national champion. Respect?
We beat the sh*t out of the national champs Lavin's first year (up 30 at one point) and I don't remember you being so complimentary.
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Should whitehead be gone, what does seton halls starting 5 look like?
I think they're still a good team. They should have 3 All BE players in Carrington, Rodriguez and Delgado. Jevon Thomas will also be eligible and with with 3 proven scorers, he could be exactly what they need to replace Whitehead. I'd still place them in the top 3/4 teams in the BE.
You're such a glass half-full type of guy.
They beat the national champion. Respect?
We beat the sh*t out of the national champs Lavin's first year (up 30 at one point) and I don't remember you being so complimentary.
Because you didn't remember it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Cut the act. It's getting old.
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Per Zags:
Kalif Young, 6-9 Canadian PF from @AI_OvillePrep , chose Providence over Marquette.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/providence-enters-rebuilding-mode-with-ben-bentil-staying-in-draft-132739220.html
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Georgetown just hired notre dame's lead assistant for recruiting, Anthony Solomon. Big time hire.
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Georgetown just hired notre dame's lead assistant for recruiting, Anthony Solomon. Big time hire.
With Inglesby set to go to Delaware that means Mike Brey has two big hires to make.
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Georgetown just hired notre dame's lead assistant for recruiting, Anthony Solomon. Big time hire.
With Inglesby set to go to Delaware that means Mike Brey has two big hires to make.
He will likely hire 2 former players.
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Fyi brey ended up hiring two former player, Ryan ayers and Ryan Humphrey, one of which has 2 years of experience at bucknell as an assistant and the other who has none (but was a player development coach at northwestern). Brey going with familiarity. Bet Mullin does the same in replacing slice, likely even will do that from within
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Former Ohio State guard Austin Grandstaff will transfer to DePaul, source told @CBSSports. Briefly transferred to Oklahoma.
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2017 Gilman (MD)/Georgetown commit G Tyler Foster is reopening his recruitment. (HT @jeffborzello) @tyfrost_ verbalcommits.com/players/tyler-…
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https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/villanovas-spellman-not-eligible-for-spain-trip/193079486
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/771506506583904258
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Per Evan Daniels:
Ed Cooley has to be pumped about adding top 75 recruit Nate Watson. Tough, hard-playing post player that will board it & is improving on O.
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still a while to go before the season starts, but seeing this again got me excited for some college basketball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTThyQPoXxY
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That shot is still bonkers to me
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That shot is still bonkers to me
Paige's shot would have gone down as one of the all time best if it weren't for Jenkins hitting perhaps the best.
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Andy Katz:
Providence College confirms it has also bid on the 2017 NCAA men's basketball tournament first and second rounds... espn.com/espn/now?nowId…
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Villanova's Amari Spellman has been declared academically ineligible for 2016- 2017 season. Spellman was going to play alot of minutes, even potentially start.
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Per Rothstein:
One consistent theme out of Creighton: Marcus Foster has been without question the Jays' best defender. First-Team All-Big East player.
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Lets keep a thread talking about Big East games throughout the season.
Watching this Maryland Georgetown game. LJ Peak is a beast.
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Lets keep a thread talking about Big East games throughout the season.
Watching this Maryland Georgetown game. LJ Peak is a beast.
A "beast?" Ehhh, I think he's certainly solid, but I don't use the word, "beast," loosely. He's somewhat out of control, too. He plays wild defense whenever he decides to play it. Georgetown doesn't have any guards who can handle the ball. I'd press 'em to obvilion. I've been saying that for a few years, though.
As, I type this.... Georgetown is melting.
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Wow what a meltdown by Gtown.
They have top 3 talent for the conference, but they did last year, so who knows.
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I really tried rooting for Georgetown. Happy they choked!
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I really tried rooting for Georgetown. Happy they choked!
:up:
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Really thought JT3 messed up calling a time out with 11 seconds left and two made FT's by his guy. Maryland had no timeouts. Let they regroup and set up a play as opposed to them just going with the flow. Lavin used to do this and drove me crazy. Bad stuff.
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JT 3 is a brutal coach
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That was a crazy meltdown. Haven't seen a meltdown like that since Duke came back against Maryland when Jay Williams went off.
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Creighton looking very good against Wisconsin. Should be a good finish
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Foster is legit for Creighton. Major transfer for them.
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Great start for the conference. Creighton beating a highly ranked Wisconsin team and Georgetown is the conference's first loss after all of these games
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Foster is legit for Creighton. Major transfer for them.
Didnt see the first half and it looked like he had a nice one, but in the second he took some atrocious shots when creighton was trying to put it away.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
Really? I am 38 I know his teams were rated high. I remember announcers always commenting on Georgetown's defense. Senior was a bad game coach?
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
Really? I am 38 I know his teams were rated high. I remember announcers always commenting on Georgetown's defense. Senior was a bad game coach?
Did you ever see the talent his teams had? Some of the best ever at the college level. Great recruiter, not a very good coach. Not as bad as his kid though.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
Really? I am 38 I know his teams were rated high. I remember announcers always commenting on Georgetown's defense. Senior was a bad game coach?
Did you ever see the talent his teams had? Some of the best ever at the college level. Great recruiter, not a very good coach. Not as bad as his kid though.
Are you saying that John Thompson Sr wasn't a good coach? Makes St.John's seem rather pedestrian. The man won a national championship. It's crazy to question his ability. I remember they beat the snot out of us even when we were really good.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
Really? I am 38 I know his teams were rated high. I remember announcers always commenting on Georgetown's defense. Senior was a bad game coach?
Did you ever see the talent his teams had? Some of the best ever at the college level. Great recruiter, not a very good coach. Not as bad as his kid though.
Are you saying that John Thompson Sr wasn't a good coach? Makes St.John's seem rather pedestrian. The man won a national championship. It's crazy to question his ability. I remember they beat the snot out of us even when we were really good.
I thought "Pops" Thompson was a decent coach. He started looking a bit shabby during his last couple of seasons, as I thought his recruiting had slipped. I believe he didn't care about dealing with certain factors, per recruiting.
As far, as JT3.... I don't believe he sucks. I see him as very mediocre. The only thing I'd blame him for last night was going home with a timeout in his pocket. Maybe, he kept it, as to not allow Maryland to set up defensively on the Hoyas' last possession. His team crapped the bed during the last minute of the game, more so than his coaching. Stuff like that has happened a few too many times on his watch, so that is why I see people hammering him about last night's game.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
Really? I am 38 I know his teams were rated high. I remember announcers always commenting on Georgetown's defense. Senior was a bad game coach?
Did you ever see the talent his teams had? Some of the best ever at the college level. Great recruiter, not a very good coach. Not as bad as his kid though.
Are you saying that John Thompson Sr wasn't a good coach? Makes St.John's seem rather pedestrian. The man won a national championship. It's crazy to question his ability. I remember they beat the snot out of us even when we were really good.
That's exactly what I'm saying. He should have won at a minimum 2 NC's with the Ewing squads and all the talent around him. It's not crazy at all. Morning, Mutoumbo, Iverson, on and on and very little results to show for those teams. If you ask any DC hoops insider they will tell you the same thing. The talent that program had was crazy and he did underachieve. You are mistaking recruiting with coaching. Two very different things. Like I said, not a very good coach.
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I thought the old man was a fairly decent coach. his teams were always tough defensively. He'd give you ninety feet of heat. But, he was recruiting that type of player who was a great athlete, and bought in on sharing roles and minutes. He would anchor the defense with a Ewing, Mourning, Mutumbo, etc. Then, he would have that one scorer; Floyd, RWilliams, Iverson to be surrounded by the role players.
The son...I don't know. They seem to recruit well each year but the team under achieves just about every year. Is it worth it to Georgetown to whack the son and also lose the father and his legacy? I assume the father would divorce himself from Gtown if junior ever gets fired. Or, I could be wrong.
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Ok, let me rephrase what I said. The Dad was a decent coach. Especially in the 80's and early 90's. I just never thought many of his teams were as good as they should have been wioth the talent they had.
I don't think JT3 sucks but mediocre for the most part and underachieving.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Been saying this for years. Where talent goes to die
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Gtown with the only Big East loss this season. 16-1.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
Really? I am 38 I know his teams were rated high. I remember announcers always commenting on Georgetown's defense. Senior was a bad game coach?
Did you ever see the talent his teams had? Some of the best ever at the college level. Great recruiter, not a very good coach. Not as bad as his kid though.
Are you saying that John Thompson Sr wasn't a good coach? Makes St.John's seem rather pedestrian. The man won a national championship. It's crazy to question his ability. I remember they beat the snot out of us even when we were really good.
That's exactly what I'm saying. He should have won at a minimum 2 NC's with the Ewing squads and all the talent around him. It's not crazy at all. Morning, Mutoumbo, Iverson, on and on and very little results to show for those teams. If you ask any DC hoops insider they will tell you the same thing. The talent that program had was crazy and he did underachieve. You are mistaking recruiting with coaching. Two very different things. Like I said, not a very good coach.
I respectfully disagree. JT1's teams played stifling defense. They were the class of the BE when the BE was at its very best. You can't give credit to the players and not to the coach for helping them improve. Mutombo barely contributed early on in college. Coach has to get credit for his development.
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
Really? I am 38 I know his teams were rated high. I remember announcers always commenting on Georgetown's defense. Senior was a bad game coach?
Did you ever see the talent his teams had? Some of the best ever at the college level. Great recruiter, not a very good coach. Not as bad as his kid though.
Are you saying that John Thompson Sr wasn't a good coach? Makes St.John's seem rather pedestrian. The man won a national championship. It's crazy to question his ability. I remember they beat the snot out of us even when we were really good.
That's exactly what I'm saying. He should have won at a minimum 2 NC's with the Ewing squads and all the talent around him. It's not crazy at all. Morning, Mutoumbo, Iverson, on and on and very little results to show for those teams. If you ask any DC hoops insider they will tell you the same thing. The talent that program had was crazy and he did underachieve. You are mistaking recruiting with coaching. Two very different things. Like I said, not a very good coach.
I respectfully disagree. JT1's teams played stifling defense. They were the class of the BE when the BE was at its very best. You can't give credit to the players and not to the coach for helping them improve. Mutombo barely contributed early on in college. Coach has to get credit for his development.
Fair enough. I thought about it and that's why I stated above that he was a decent/good coach but never one of the best IMO.
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Butler coming down to the wire at home against Northwestern
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Jesse Govan has beast potential on that Gtown squad. 6'10-6'11 and a sweet stroke from 3. No idea why they went away from him late in that game when MD couldn't stop him. Example A of why JT3 is a mediocre coach.
Nothing mediocre about him. He sucks
Like father, like son.
Really? I am 38 I know his teams were rated high. I remember announcers always commenting on Georgetown's defense. Senior was a bad game coach?
Did you ever see the talent his teams had? Some of the best ever at the college level. Great recruiter, not a very good coach. Not as bad as his kid though.
Are you saying that John Thompson Sr wasn't a good coach? Makes St.John's seem rather pedestrian. The man won a national championship. It's crazy to question his ability. I remember they beat the snot out of us even when we were really good.
I'm like a Cubs fan. I'd give anything for a NC. I wish I had been alive for the Wonder 5 years, when the NIT was the real national championship. Dare to dream.
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Gtown down by 19 to Ark St!!!
Nova pulls away late against W Michigan in what was a tight one.
Xavier survives Mizzou in OT.
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Gtown down by 19 to Ark St!!!
Without Livingston I presume.
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Gtown down by 19 to Ark St!!!
Without Livingston I presume.
Yup. No Livingston. Ark St trying to give this game away down the stretch. We'll see if they survive.
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Why is Gtown playing this game in a CYO gym?
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Gtown down by 19 to Ark St!!!
Without Livingston I presume.
Yup. No Livingston. Ark St trying to give this game away down the stretch. We'll see if they survive.
Arkansas State started to play tight midway through the second half, which allowed Georgetown to make the comeback.
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After that long timeout
, that's the inbound play you draw up?
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Providence hanging tough at Ohio St.
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Gtown down by 19 to Ark St!!!
Without Livingston I presume.
Yup. No Livingston. Ark St trying to give this game away down the stretch. We'll see if they survive.
Arkansas State started to play tight midway through the second half, which allowed Georgetown to make the comeback.
Looks like Ark St. is going to escape with the upset.
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JT jr's seat might get warm if they end up sub 500 again
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JT jr's seat might get warm if they end up sub 500 again
Actually, his father is JT, Jr. He's JT3. Maybe, both of their seats are hot, as "Pops" still has an office at Georgetown.
I also believe Arkansas State was picked to finish 10th in the Sun Belt Conference.
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JT jr's seat might get warm if they end up sub 500 again
Never happening
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JT jr's seat might get warm if they end up sub 500 again
Actually, his father is JT, Jr. He's JT3. Maybe, both of their seats are hot, as "Pops" still has an office at Georgetown.
I also believe Arkansas State was picked to finish 10th in the Sun Belt Conference.
They also just unveiled a new athletic training complex with a giant statue of big John. Doubt he's going anywhere.
Jt3 on the other hand needs to produce.
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Seth Greenberg just said that the ACC is a 9-10 bid league. Said they took the best of the Big East
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Why is Gtown playing this game in a CYO gym?
The circus was in town at the Verizon center.
.... aka the 2016 NY Knicks
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DePaul looked awful. Just watched game
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Marquette blew 11 point halftime lead in loss to Pitt. Marquette just could not stop Michael Young in the 2nd half
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Seth Greenberg just said that the ACC is a 9-10 bid league. Said they took the best of the Big East
With the exception of Nova, Miami and Virginia Tech, that's pretty much true.
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#mubb junior forward Sandy Cohen III has left the program, effective immediately. Appeared in 3 games in 2016-17, averaging 6.3 minutes.
Per Marquette blog
Log jam at three spot. Expect Simon to cause same on our roster.
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#mubb junior forward Sandy Cohen III has left the program, effective immediately. Appeared in 3 games in 2016-17, averaging 6.3 minutes.
Per Marquette blog
Log jam at three spot. Expect Simon to cause same on our roster.
Ahmed to IONA
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#mubb junior forward Sandy Cohen III has left the program, effective immediately. Appeared in 3 games in 2016-17, averaging 6.3 minutes.
Per Marquette blog
Log jam at three spot. Expect Simon to cause same on our roster.
Ahmed to IONA
Sorry Baldi, Ahmed starts this year and next. Guys we haven't seen play are always better than what we have. Not. Besides you will get 5-8 other transfers and have your usual 15-18 players.
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Gtown with the big OOC win against #13 Oregon in Maui.
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Gtown with the big OOC win against #13 Oregon in Maui.
They almost wanted to give it away down the stretch. Oregon also looked wild and sloppy.
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Gtown with the big OOC win against #13 Oregon in Maui.
They almost wanted to give it away down the stretch. Oregon also looked wild and sloppy.
I think I know who you were rooting for Dink! :) Great to see you posting man! Hope all is good.
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Gtown with the big OOC win against #13 Oregon in Maui.
They almost wanted to give it away down the stretch. Oregon also looked wild and sloppy.
I think I know who you were rooting for Dink! :) Great to see you posting man! Hope all is good.
It was certainly quacking. ;) Appreciate it, Paultz!
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Baylor is no joke. Waxing Xavier
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Baylor is no joke. Waxing Xavier
It was a very tight game until Xavier went 8 min without a FG. Baylor with 3 Top 10 wins already. Building a great March resume.
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Providence and URI locked up in a tight battle. Great atmosphere there too
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Providence and URI locked up in a tight battle. Great atmosphere there too
It is. Credit to Cooley. That's what a good coach does. He's developing all of his players, so that when some of them move on, he doesn't have to start over from scratch.
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Providence and URI locked up in a tight battle. Great atmosphere there too
It is. Credit to Cooley. That's what a good coach does. He's developing all of his players, so that when some of them move on, he doesn't have to start over from scratch.
Yes, it's a shame Lavin skipped that step, we might not suck.
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Traci Carter leaving Marquette
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Traci Carter leaving Marquette
Too bad he's not around 8 inches taller and a front court bruiser.
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Ameer Singh leaving the Hall
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Traci Carter leaving Marquette
Saw that coming a mile away.
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G'town-Cuse in a tight one in the 2nd half.
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G'town with another big OOC win for the BE at the Carrier Dome.
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G'town with another big OOC win for the BE at the Carrier Dome.
Frankly, Syracuse doesn't look that good to me, this season. I've seen 'em play a few times already, and have came away unimpressed. If we can play halfway decent defense (I know that's asking a lot), then we should could come away with a win.
Syracuse may end up in the NIT in March.
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G'town with another big OOC win for the BE at the Carrier Dome.
Frankly, Syracuse doesn't look that good to me, this season. I've seen 'em play a few times already, and have came away unimpressed. If we can play halfway decent defense (I know that's asking a lot), then we should could come away with a win.
Syracuse may end up in the NIT in March.
To add to that MJD, they have to turn around and play E. Michigan on Monday night. They took Pitt to 2OT's before losing in early November. By the time they play us Wednesday night, it'll be their third game in five days.
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G'town with another big OOC win for the BE at the Carrier Dome.
Frankly, Syracuse doesn't look that good to me, this season. I've seen 'em play a few times already, and have came away unimpressed. If we can play halfway decent defense (I know that's asking a lot), then we should could come away with a win.
Syracuse may end up in the NIT in March.
It's still a good OOC win in a hostile environment for the BE against a power conf. Cuse will get better as the season goes on. After losing to teams like Del St. and LIU, no game is even close to a gimme for SJU. I'd have Cuse as at least 3 point favorites against SJU.
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G'town with another big OOC win for the BE at the Carrier Dome.
Frankly, Syracuse doesn't look that good to me, this season. I've seen 'em play a few times already, and have came away unimpressed. If we can play halfway decent defense (I know that's asking a lot), then we should could come away with a win.
Syracuse may end up in the NIT in March.
To add to that MJD, they have to turn around and play E. Michigan on Monday night. They took Pitt to 2OT's before losing in early November. By the time they play us Wednesday night, it'll be their third game in five days.
If LoVett can play, we can give SU a game. Their front court isn't what it has been in recent years, but we need to establish some kind of presence inside or they will just keep coming at us until we foul out of the game.
The freshman Thompson, kid from Jersey, will be a load to handle. Their biggest weakness is the lack of a competent point guard. Like they did w the Duke transfer, they are trying to turn Frank Howard into a point guard, and he isn't getting right now. Just have to hope that they don't turn the corner before they play us. 3 games in 5 days is a lot. I hope you're right. We need a legit win to get these kids motivated for the season.
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G'town with another big OOC win for the BE at the Carrier Dome.
Frankly, Syracuse doesn't look that good to me, this season. I've seen 'em play a few times already, and have came away unimpressed. If we can play halfway decent defense (I know that's asking a lot), then we should could come away with a win.
Syracuse may end up in the NIT in March.
It's still a good OOC win in a hostile environment for the BE against a power conf. Cuse will get better as the season goes on. After losing to teams like Del St. and LIU, no game is even close to a gimme for SJU. I'd have Cuse as at least 3 point favorites against SJU.
More like 3 touchdown favorite.
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G'town with another big OOC win for the BE at the Carrier Dome.
Frankly, Syracuse doesn't look that good to me, this season. I've seen 'em play a few times already, and have came away unimpressed. If we can play halfway decent defense (I know that's asking a lot), then we should could come away with a win.
Syracuse may end up in the NIT in March.
It's still a good OOC win in a hostile environment for the BE against a power conf. Cuse will get better as the season goes on. After losing to teams like Del St. and LIU, no game is even close to a gimme for SJU. I'd have Cuse as at least 3 point favorites against SJU.
More like 3 touchdown favorite.
Sounds about right. I was trying to go easy on the good guys.
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Another good win for the league. Butler over Indiana
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a clean sweep for the BE today with some good wins over IU, Cuse and Wake. Creighton barely survived.
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Creighton manhandling AZ State.
First time watching them this year. Unselfish. Deadly at every position.
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#mubb junior forward Sandy Cohen III has left the program, effective immediately. Appeared in 3 games in 2016-17, averaging 6.3 minutes.
Per Marquette blog
Log jam at three spot. Expect Simon to cause same on our roster.
Ahmed to IONA
Sorry Baldi, Ahmed starts this year and next. Guys we haven't seen play are always better than what we have. Not. Besides you will get 5-8 other transfers and have your usual 15-18 players.
No one thought Sima would leave. Shit, in October, he was an NBA player who was already further along than Obekpa. Ahmed is ok. He's better at putting it on the floor than Durand Johnson. They are similar in overall production. One thing we haven't seen is Mullin run a play to put Ahmed in a situation where he can drive to the basket. When he drives, it's forced. Kid may get frustrated with the lack of leadership from the staff.
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Watching the Seton Hall - Rutgers game tonight...
1. Rutgers would beat us soundly.
2. Jevon Thomas is still in college? In the Big East? Idk how that flew under my radar
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Watching the Seton Hall - Rutgers game tonight...
1. Rutgers would beat us soundly.
2. Jevon Thomas is still in college? In the Big East? Idk how that flew under my radar
We've beaten Syracuse. Rutgers has zero quality wins.
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Watching the Seton Hall - Rutgers game tonight...
1. Rutgers would beat us soundly.
2. Jevon Thomas is still in college? In the Big East? Idk how that flew under my radar
We've beaten Syracuse. Rutgers has zero quality wins.
Not trying to be a downer. Syracuse was an awesome win. Can we beat teams that play tough man defense? Hope so, don't know.
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Watching the Seton Hall - Rutgers game tonight...
1. Rutgers would beat us soundly.
2. Jevon Thomas is still in college? In the Big East? Idk how that flew under my radar
We've beaten Syracuse. Rutgers has zero quality wins.
What quality wins does Syracuse have?
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Depaul up 2 at Nova. 6 mins left
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Villanova and DePaul are tied right now with 4:30 left in the game.. can't quite believe it!
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Villanova and DePaul are tied right now with 4:30 left in the game.. can't quite believe it!
At nova, too.
I'm kind of hoping that DePaul pulls it out. Maybe they'll have a little letdown on Sunday, if that happens.
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Villanova survives DePaul by 3.
Creighton up 14 at home against Seton Hall going into halftime. They are real good.
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Josh Hart is a stud.
Nova only played 7 guys?
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Was Jessie Govan supposed to be good?
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Was Jessie Govan supposed to be good?
I know Luke Fischer ain't. Govan actually has some tools, but he's soft and tends to play lackadaisical.
Can a mod merge the "Around the Big East" threads? There is one that has long been a "sticky" thread.
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Was Jessie Govan supposed to be good?
I know Luke Fischer ain't. Govan actually has some tools, but he's soft and tends to play lackadaisical.
Can a mod merge the "Around the Big East" threads? There is one that has long been a "sticky" thread.
Ya Fischer never improved. I do like Cheatham and Rowsey
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Pretty sure we are better than Georgetown. Horrendous
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Georgetown has big time talent, including Govan. But they have been maddeningly inconsistent under Thompson the past few years. It is starting to get the reputation as the place talent goes to die. His job last year was way worse than Lavin's failure to make the tourney in year 4 with that squad - and that is saying something.
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Georgetown has big time talent, including Govan. But they have been maddeningly inconsistent under Thompson the past few years. It is starting to get the reputation as the place talent goes to die. His job last year was way worse than Lavin's failure to make the tourney in year 4 with that squad - and that is saying something.
Been saying that for years about the talent dying. JT 3 will never get fired
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Villanova survives DePaul by 3.
Creighton up 14 at home against Seton Hall going into halftime. They are real good.
If our guards try those fancy dribbles where they try to cross over and dribble the ball
right in front of the defender, Creighton guards Watson and Foster will pick our pockets all night.
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Villanova survives DePaul by 3.
Creighton up 14 at home against Seton Hall going into halftime. They are real good.
If our guards try those fancy dribbles where they try to cross over and dribble the ball
right in front of the defender, Creighton guards Watson and Foster will pick our pockets all night.
Right on! my fear exactly Watson will run a master class for our pair
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Villanova guard Jalen Brunson named @BIGEAST player of the week. St. John's guard Shamorie Ponds named conference freshman of the week.
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Villanova guard Jalen Brunson named @BIGEAST player of the week. St. John's guard Shamorie Ponds named conference freshman of the week.
I don't think Brunson can check either of our guards. Baldi eagerly awaiting the Nova game
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Want Nova to win this game at Butler. Come in undefeated to the Garden
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This guy Chrabascz is going to make an all Big East team
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What a fantastic game
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Beat Creighton and we will play Xavier for 1st place
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I'm rooting for Butler as that makes our win over them look that much stronger.
A minute 40 is an eternity though.
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Butler very lucky that Brunson wasn't fully behind the 3 pt line on that foul. Dumb play.
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Butler is going to win this game.
Nova goes down.
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Xavier/G'town knotted up at 66 w/54 seconds remaining in regulation.
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Xavier/G'town headed to OT tied at 68.
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Dink smiling as JT3 goes down again. :)
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Dink smiling as JT3 goes down again. :)
:up: Mainly, Georgetown in general. But, unfortunately, he's coaching that bunch that I love to hate.
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Unfortunately Gtown being winless in conference does not bode well for us. That place has been a house of horrors for us recently, and with their talent level/experience, there is no way they should be 0-4. They will take out their misery on us next game. No way they start 0-5 with the guys they have.
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Unfortunately Gtown being winless in conference does not bode well for us. That place has been a house of horrors for us recently, and with their talent level/experience, there is no way they should be 0-4. They will take out their misery on us next game. No way they start 0-5 with the guys they have.
You could also look at it another way, too. It could bode well, as today's loss may have taken a lot out of 'em. They played with lots of energy today, but you could see the wind sucked outta 'em in OT.
IMO, they could have serious problems dealing with LoVett and Ponds. Our type of guards have given G'town fits in the past few seasons. Monday night may not be any different. I'd love to close the book on their season on Monday.
If the game was at MSG, then I'd confidently pick us. It'll be a tough one on Monday, but I think we have more than a chance to win.
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Jay Wright always seems to leave his starters in too long
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Think we will have major problems with Gtowns frontline and overall size. Also that building has been a house of horrors for us lately even when we've been solid and beaten Gtown in the garden. And Gtown has way too much talent to go 0-5 to start conference play. They will be in desperation mode - think they are there already.
Unfortunately Gtown being winless in conference does not bode well for us. That place has been a house of horrors for us recently, and with their talent level/experience, there is no way they should be 0-4. They will take out their misery on us next game. No way they start 0-5 with the guys they have.
You could also look at it another way, too. It could bode well, as today's loss may have taken a lot out of 'em. They played with lots of energy today, but you could see the wind sucked outta 'em in OT.
IMO, they could have serious problems dealing with LoVett and Ponds. Our type of guards have given G'town fits in the past few seasons. Monday night may not be any different. I'd love to close the book on their season on Monday.
If the game was at MSG, then I'd confidently pick us. It'll be a tough one on Monday, but I think we have more than a chance to win.
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Think we will have major problems with Gtowns frontline and overall size. Also that building has been a house of horrors for us lately even when we've been solid and beaten Gtown in the garden. And Gtown has way too much talent to go 0-5 to start conference play. They will be in desperation mode - think they are there already.
Unfortunately Gtown being winless in conference does not bode well for us. That place has been a house of horrors for us recently, and with their talent level/experience, there is no way they should be 0-4. They will take out their misery on us next game. No way they start 0-5 with the guys they have.
You could also look at it another way, too. It could bode well, as today's loss may have taken a lot out of 'em. They played with lots of energy today, but you could see the wind sucked outta 'em in OT.
IMO, they could have serious problems dealing with LoVett and Ponds. Our type of guards have given G'town fits in the past few seasons. Monday night may not be any different. I'd love to close the book on their season on Monday.
If the game was at MSG, then I'd confidently pick us. It'll be a tough one on Monday, but I think we have more than a chance to win.
If we lose, it won't have anything to do with their desperation mode. It'll be based on what we do or can't do. I'm confident in saying so.
If they were playing Villanova on Monday, then you'd be saying Georgetown probably will be done after Monday. But, they're playing us, so you use the desperation label. Again, they've been desperate the past two games. They still lost. This game will boil down to what we can't or won't do.
Their frontline probably will give us problems, as out backcourt will give them fits. If we make shots and share the rock, then we'll probably come away with a win. Desperation or not.
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I hear what you are saying, but I also think their players know how tough this league is and that we are one of the lesser teams. If they want any chance for a season they need to win at home against us.
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I hear what you are saying, but I also think their players know how tough this league is and that we are one of the lesser teams. If they want any chance for a season they need to win at home against us.
Again, they've been in desperation mode for the past two games. Monday's game will boil down to what we can't or won't do. Not whether the Hoyas are desperate.
We are supposedly the lesser team, and that will probably be the reason we lose. If it was Villanova, as I mentioned earlier, you would say Georgetown will be done Monday night.
That's my point
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Xavier just picked up a comittment from a 6'10" big. We need to get someone in asap.
http://www.scout.com/college/xavier/story/1744246-xavier-lands-juco-big-man-for-2017-18
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Xavier just picked up a comittment from a 6'10" big. We need to get someone in asap.
http://www.scout.com/college/xavier/story/1744246-xavier-lands-juco-big-man-for-2017-18
We have a 6'10 guy. Just have to locate him and hope he's not incarcerated
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Xavier just picked up a comittment from a 6'10" big. We need to get someone in asap.
http://www.scout.com/college/xavier/story/1744246-xavier-lands-juco-big-man-for-2017-18
We have a 6'10 guy. Just have to locate him and hope he's not incarcerated
And smudge his transcript
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Nova cruising over Xavier at home.
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Great news, Xavier might score less than we did last night!
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DePaul just came alllll the way back and upset Providence.
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That was a great finish with clutch final seconds by Garrett Jr.
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Markus Howard can play
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Markus Howard can play
Baller.
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Marquette just doesn't want to finish a game against Seton Hall. Completely collapsed late in both games against them this year
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Markus Howard shitting on Butler
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Watson left today's game vs Xavier with a knee injury and apparently he told Coach McDermott that he heard it pop. Would be a brutal blow to Creighton and the conference if he was to be out for the rest of the season
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Watson left today's game vs Xavier with a knee injury and apparently he told Coach McDermott that he heard it pop. Would be a brutal blow to Creighton and the conference if he was to be out for the rest of the season
He's now on the bench laughing it up with a couple of his teammates. He's also nursing his knee with an icepack. That's not to say, it isn't a serious injury, but he may haven't torn anything.
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Watson left today's game vs Xavier with a knee injury and apparently he told Coach McDermott that he heard it pop. Would be a brutal blow to Creighton and the conference if he was to be out for the rest of the season
He's now on the bench laughing it up with a couple of his teammates. He's also nursing his knee with an icepack. That's not to say, it isn't a serious injury, but he may haven't torn anything.
If he turns out to be OK that is huge and very good news.
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Gaston, 12 points 15 rebounds for Xavier. We need junk yard dog just like him.
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Watson left today's game vs Xavier with a knee injury and apparently he told Coach McDermott that he heard it pop. Would be a brutal blow to Creighton and the conference if he was to be out for the rest of the season
He's now on the bench laughing it up with a couple of his teammates. He's also nursing his knee with an icepack. That's not to say, it isn't a serious injury, but he may haven't torn anything.
Good news, I think he banged his knee twice
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Gaston, 12 points 15 rebounds for Xavier. We need junk yard dog just like him.
Yup. These teams have some savage horses
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Traci Carter to LaSalle
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Villanova is beating the stew outta Seton Hall.
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Creighton's PG Mo Watson's college career career over, torn ACL.
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Creighton's PG Mo Watson's college career career over, torn ACL.
Terrible
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Horrible Could have been a force in the tournament.
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Creighton's PG Mo Watson's college career career over, torn ACL.
Terrible
Brutal
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Creighton's PG Mo Watson's college career career over, torn ACL.
Terrible
Brutal
As painful as it can get for him, their program and fanbase. This team had true potential, senior laden with great balance in their starting 5, and he lead the nation in assists, so brutal.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/mauricewatsonjr/status/821448348146237444/photo/2
Classy kid
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Myles Davis announced he is leaving Xavier
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This Week in the Big East on Westwood One sports
Mullin Interview starts at the 7 minute mark
http://westwoodonesports.com/2017/01/twitbe-chris-mullin-andrew-chrabascz-and-more/
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Myles Davis announced he is leaving Xavier
Wow that hurts them.
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Hurts them and surprised - he can't possibly have any eligibility left, can he?
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Myles Davis announced he is leaving Xavier
Wow that hurts them.
I forgot he was there
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Myles Davis announced he is leaving Xavier
Wow that hurts them.
I forgot he was there
He wasn't. Scored 2 points in the 3 games he's played this season. Looked horrible in the process
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Myles Davis announced he is leaving Xavier
Wow that hurts them.
I forgot he was there
He wasn't. Scored 2 points in the 3 games he's played this season. Looked horrible in the process
He served a 15 game suspension and was boo'd everytime he touched the ball in just 34 minutes. Huge loss for them and likely ends their chances at a Final Four. They haven't looked the same without him this year.
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Myles Davis announced he is leaving Xavier
Wow that hurts them.
I forgot he was there
He wasn't. Scored 2 points in the 3 games he's played this season. Looked horrible in the process
He served a 15 game suspension and was boo'd everytime he touched the ball in just 34 minutes. Huge loss for them and likely ends their chances at a Final Four. They haven't looked the same without him this year.
Yeah but it's not really a loss considering he was never there this season to begin with. Had that suspension then looked completely lost on the court in the 34 minutes he's played. 0-8 from the field, 0 assists, 2 turnovers, 2 rebounds. There's still plenty of talent on that team for them to turn it around. They are definitely capable of getting hot at the right time
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Myles Davis announced he is leaving Xavier
Wow that hurts them.
I forgot he was there
He wasn't. Scored 2 points in the 3 games he's played this season. Looked horrible in the process
He served a 15 game suspension and was boo'd everytime he touched the ball in just 34 minutes. Huge loss for them and likely ends their chances at a Final Four. They haven't looked the same without him this year.
Yeah but it's not really a loss considering he was never there this season to begin with. Had that suspension then looked completely lost on the court in the 34 minutes he's played. 0-8 from the field, 0 assists, 2 turnovers, 2 rebounds. There's still plenty of talent on that team for them to turn it around. They are definitely capable of getting hot at the right time
What kind of logic is that? They are a weaker team without him and he was money in the clutch.
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Myles Davis announced he is leaving Xavier
I'm not sure about the validity, but heard he was asked to leave.
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DePaul and Butler having an insane overtime battle at Allstate. Never seen so many people in the Arena lol
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Butler beats DePaul in a dogfight in OT.
Baldwin is another frosh stud who came up clutch. Eli Cain killed it with 32.
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That Butler/DePaul game was one of the worst officiated games I've seen in a while on both sides. Some really bad foul calls in huge spots
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Butler beats DePaul in a dogfight in OT.
Baldwin is another frosh stud who came up clutch. Eli Cain killed it with 32.
Why did Cain, a NJ kid, go to DePaul?
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Butler beats DePaul in a dogfight in OT.
Baldwin is another frosh stud who came up clutch. Eli Cain killed it with 32.
Why did Cain, a NJ kid, go to DePaul?
New arena?
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Here's what Cain said at the time
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1526227-cain-commits-to-depaul
DePaul picked up their fourth 2015 pledge on Wednesday.
Elijah Cain, a standout at Newark (N.J.) St. Benedict, informed Scout that he will play his college basketball at DePaul. Cain picked the Blue Demons over Iona, Delaware and Wagner.
“I think it’s a good situation for me,” Cain said. “They are losing a wing player and they don’t have good guard depth. I think I can come in as a freshman and get some time.
“I like the location,” he added. “It’s in the Big East and I think with coach [Oliver] Purnell I can do well.
Cain took an official visit to DePaul last week.
“It was my first time being in Chicago,” he said. “I didn’t know what to expect. It was crazy. I wasn’t expecting it to be like that. The campus was real nice. I just got a good vibe.”
Cain, a 6-foot-5 wing, is a talented scorer. Cain scored 1,000 points in his first seasons at Medford Tech. He scored another thousand during his final two seasons at St. Benedict. Cain said he sees his offensive abilities fitting in at DePaul.
“They seem pretty free,” he said about their playing style. “They don’t do a lot of plays and stuff. They play similar to how we play on the AAU circuit. They trust their players and we go out there and play.”
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Here's what Cain said at the time
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1526227-cain-commits-to-depaul
DePaul picked up their fourth 2015 pledge on Wednesday.
Elijah Cain, a standout at Newark (N.J.) St. Benedict, informed Scout that he will play his college basketball at DePaul. Cain picked the Blue Demons over Iona, Delaware and Wagner.
“I think it’s a good situation for me,” Cain said. “They are losing a wing player and they don’t have good guard depth. I think I can come in as a freshman and get some time.
“I like the location,” he added. “It’s in the Big East and I think with coach [Oliver] Purnell I can do well.
Cain took an official visit to DePaul last week.
“It was my first time being in Chicago,” he said. “I didn’t know what to expect. It was crazy. I wasn’t expecting it to be like that. The campus was real nice. I just got a good vibe.”
Cain, a 6-foot-5 wing, is a talented scorer. Cain scored 1,000 points in his first seasons at Medford Tech. He scored another thousand during his final two seasons at St. Benedict. Cain said he sees his offensive abilities fitting in at DePaul.
“They seem pretty free,” he said about their playing style. “They don’t do a lot of plays and stuff. They play similar to how we play on the AAU circuit. They trust their players and we go out there and play.”
That last quote is why DePaul has been at the bottom of the BE forever and the same can be said about our playing style under this staff
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Here's what Cain said at the time
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1526227-cain-commits-to-depaul
DePaul picked up their fourth 2015 pledge on Wednesday.
Elijah Cain, a standout at Newark (N.J.) St. Benedict, informed Scout that he will play his college basketball at DePaul. Cain picked the Blue Demons over Iona, Delaware and Wagner.
“I think it’s a good situation for me,” Cain said. “They are losing a wing player and they don’t have good guard depth. I think I can come in as a freshman and get some time.
“I like the location,” he added. “It’s in the Big East and I think with coach [Oliver] Purnell I can do well.
Cain took an official visit to DePaul last week.
“It was my first time being in Chicago,” he said. “I didn’t know what to expect. It was crazy. I wasn’t expecting it to be like that. The campus was real nice. I just got a good vibe.”
Cain, a 6-foot-5 wing, is a talented scorer. Cain scored 1,000 points in his first seasons at Medford Tech. He scored another thousand during his final two seasons at St. Benedict. Cain said he sees his offensive abilities fitting in at DePaul.
“They seem pretty free,” he said about their playing style. “They don’t do a lot of plays and stuff. They play similar to how we play on the AAU circuit. They trust their players and we go out there and play.”
Based on the schools listed makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the fact that other schools weren't involved. Kid looks good..
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Here's what Cain said at the time
http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1526227-cain-commits-to-depaul
DePaul picked up their fourth 2015 pledge on Wednesday.
Elijah Cain, a standout at Newark (N.J.) St. Benedict, informed Scout that he will play his college basketball at DePaul. Cain picked the Blue Demons over Iona, Delaware and Wagner.
“I think it’s a good situation for me,” Cain said. “They are losing a wing player and they don’t have good guard depth. I think I can come in as a freshman and get some time.
“I like the location,” he added. “It’s in the Big East and I think with coach [Oliver] Purnell I can do well.
Cain took an official visit to DePaul last week.
“It was my first time being in Chicago,” he said. “I didn’t know what to expect. It was crazy. I wasn’t expecting it to be like that. The campus was real nice. I just got a good vibe.”
Cain, a 6-foot-5 wing, is a talented scorer. Cain scored 1,000 points in his first seasons at Medford Tech. He scored another thousand during his final two seasons at St. Benedict. Cain said he sees his offensive abilities fitting in at DePaul.
“They seem pretty free,” he said about their playing style. “They don’t do a lot of plays and stuff. They play similar to how we play on the AAU circuit. They trust their players and we go out there and play.”
Based on the schools listed makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the fact that other schools weren't involved. Kid looks good..
Seems like he was under recruited, it happens.
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Butler beats DePaul in a dogfight in OT.
Baldwin is another frosh stud who came up clutch. Eli Cain killed it with 32.
Why did Cain, a NJ kid, go to DePaul?
A lot of schools definitely whiffed on this kid. Going back to HS, he played his first 3 years at a small public school in South Jersey and was very overlooked. Then St. Ben's recruited him to come up North and finish HS and a PG year.
He's a great example of what the Johnnies should be looking to add. I know you can only go after so many kids a year but I gotta believe between the 5 boros, LI, Jersey and occasionally CT and Westchester there are overlooked Eli Cains every year.
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Biggest game to date in the Wojo era in downtown Milwaukee tonight. For a team with true promise in year 3, opportunity is knocking for a Marquette team that can solidify it's NCAA aspirations with a upset. They're 13-6 (4-3) looking for a program W. I expect a big crowd and primetime environment for this one. Nova will be tested.
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Biggest game to date in the Wojo era in downtown Milwaukee tonight. For a team with true promise in year 3, opportunity is knocking for a Marquette team that can solidify it's NCAA aspirations with a upset. They're 13-6 (4-3) looking for a program W. I expect a big crowd and primetime environment for this one. Nova will be tested.
Marquette is better than I expected them to be. Should be a good one tonight.
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Biggest game to date in the Wojo era in downtown Milwaukee tonight. For a team with true promise in year 3, opportunity is knocking for a Marquette team that can solidify it's NCAA aspirations with a upset. They're 13-6 (4-3) looking for a program W. I expect a big crowd and primetime environment for this one. Nova will be tested.
I was supposed to go to this game, going to Marquette to see Creighton later in the schedule.
Some nice young players
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Wow what a rally by Marquette. Come all the way back and now just took the lead on Nova.
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So Providence blitzes Georgetown on the road, Georgetown blows out SJU and tonight Creighton at home and Providence loses to SJU tonight.
Feel really bad for Creighton, Watson loss is a killer. Wouldn't have minded to reverse that game from earlier this year and have the remaining game with without Watson be at home instead of Omaha.
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Agree on Creighton.
As my man Baldi has accurately said, JTIII's rep now seems to be a coach that does less with talent than anyone in the country. Gtown should be much much better with their roster.
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Agree on Creighton.
As my man Baldi has accurately said, JTIII's rep now seems to be a coach that does less with talent than anyone in the country. Gtown should be much much better with their roster.
Personally, I don't love their roster. Devoid of guards.
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Delgado 22 rebounds last night
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Trevor Blueitt on fire tonight vs. Cincinnati
26 pts at the half and perfect from field and buried 3's.
X is shooting 66% from 3 (10-15) vs. season avg 33%
Hopefully this doesn't carry over to Sunday
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And the strange gets stranger. After losing to SJU at home PC goes on the road and beats a Marquette team coming off back to back wins against the top two teams in the BE-Creighton and Nova.
Then Georgetown who was 1-6 and left for dead drills Creighton at home and just beat Butler on the road...
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League is all competitive... honestly. The case is there's lots of good teams, not May bad ones. The reason for the parity. We may not have lots of great teams yet, but the big east is certainly moving towards it.
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One bad team - Depaul.
Four very good teams, which may have changed with Creighton losing Watson (might just be a "good" team) and Xavier if Sumner is out an extended period (and losing Davis, a very good player in years past).
A bunch of teams after that with talent, some better than others, who go up and down.
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Villanova in a dogfight with Virginia. The Cavs are up 31-22 at the half. Virginia's defense and physicality seems to be bothering 'Nova at the moment.
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Villanova in a dogfight with Virginia. The Cavs are up 31-22 at the half. Virginia's defense and physicality seems to be bothering 'Nova at the moment.
Virginia is legit. Some great coaching
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He is one of the best defensive coaches in the country IMO.
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Every announcing team that I have heard doing a Nova game has called the kid athletic.
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Every announcing team that I have heard doing a Nova game has called the kid athletic.
BFF Marillac disagrees
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Every announcing team that I have heard doing a Nova game has called the kid athletic.
BFF Marillac disagrees
Bridges is athletic.
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Every announcing team that I have heard doing a Nova game has called the kid athletic.
BFF Marillac disagrees
Bridges is athletic.
The one on Mich St even more so.
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Great hustle play. But, otherwise a nothing game He was abused by Jerome who basically told his teammates to back off knowing he could take Dante.
Nice player but not a star in the making.
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Great hustle play. But, otherwise a nothing game He was abused by Jerome who basically told his teammates to back off knowing he could take Dante.
Nice player but not a star in the making.
Wait. Scoring two points the entire game and getting your hand three inches above the rim with a running start when you are 6'5 isn't elite?
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Great hustle play. But, otherwise a nothing game He was abused by Jerome who basically told his teammates to back off knowing he could take Dante.
Nice player but not a star in the making.
Jerome is a going to be a good one. Too bad he didn't even sniff us. But who made the play to get the W?
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Per Zach B
St. John's guard Shamorie Ponds wins his fourth Big East Rookie of Week honor, one more than Creighton's Justin Patton. #sjubb
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Great hustle play. But, otherwise a nothing game He was abused by Jerome who basically told his teammates to back off knowing he could take Dante.
Nice player but not a star in the making.
Jerome is a going to be a good one. Too bad he didn't even sniff us. But who made the play to get the W?
Donte made the play. That said, not a star in the making
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My man Dante. Damn that kid is unathletic, right Marillac
Great hustle play. But, otherwise a nothing game He was abused by Jerome who basically told his teammates to back off knowing he could take Dante.
Nice player but not a star in the making.
Jerome is a going to be a good one. Too bad he didn't even sniff us. But who made the play to get the W?
Donte made the play. That said, not a star in the making
To think he still has 3 years left after this, id say a star soon enough. Junior and senior he will be a stud.
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Per Zagoria
Xavier's Trevon Bluiett named @BIGEASTMBB Player of the Week.
@StJohnsBBall Marcus LoVett Freshman of the Week
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Georgetown bus involved in accident on its way to Philly for Villanova game.
http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/02/07/photo-georgetown-team-bus-involved-in-accident-on-highway-in-maryland/
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Ismael Sanogo (ankle) is out for Seton Hall against Providence Wed, per Kevin Willard. Uncertain Saturday against St John's #shbb #sjubb
Per Zach
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How'd Dante do tonight?
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How'd Dante do tonight?
15/6/2 in 26 minutes. I watched the game and he looked even better than that stat line
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I don't think I've seen a game with as many missed layups as the SHU Providence game, particularly Providence missing every one of them
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How'd Dante do tonight?
15/6/2 in 26 minutes. I watched the game and he looked even better than that stat line
Who is Dante?
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Seton Hall down 1 w 30 sec to go at home vs Prov. If they lose, they'll ready for Saturday.
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Seton Hall down 1 w 30 sec to go at home vs Prov. If they lose, they'll ready for Saturday.
They lose they implode . They win they could make the tournament.
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Always wait too long and get a shit shot. Gotta go with 12 secs
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Always wait too long and get a shit shot. Gotta go with 12 secs
That was a Normesque play call.
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Always wait too long and get a shit shot. Gotta go with 12 secs
That was a Normesque play call.
Every team does it. Can't remember the last time I saw a good last second play ran. Besides Nova
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There have been 3.2 seconds of basketball played in the last 11 real time minutes of this game
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That's a loss SHU just couldn't afford. I still think they are looking good to make the dance
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Dante
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BE teams in the AP Top 25 this week: Villanova (2), Creighton (20) and Butler (24).
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Dante
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Looking more and more like UCONN will join Big East
http://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothstein-uconn-big-east-recent-discussions-expansion/
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Good news if this happens. That's one more msg game with a good crowd, a better crowd for the big east tourney, another potential NCAA team in the league, another east coast game, better ratings. Seems to make sense for all involved (except uconns football team which will likely be in an even lesser league). Let's do it
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Bring in VCU to make it an even 12 and call it a day
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10 should be the max. Go to a 20 game league schedule, and keep the home and home. That's important.
As for UConn. Screw them. Let them rot in the AAC.
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10 should be the max. Go to a 20 game league schedule, and keep the home and home. That's important.
As for UConn. Screw them. Let them rot in the AAC.
can only go to 20 games with at least 11, hence uconn
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/02/15/big-east-says-no-discussions-taken-place-uconn/
Someone is not telling the truth between the two articles.
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Playing uconn at the garden on a Saturday is absolute sellout every year. Many years the game would be on fox 5 nationally. I can't understand how any of you would be against that. I hate #$%^ing UCONN. I don't even dislike butler and creighton. I actually root for them when they are not playing us.
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I agree with TonyD3...Getting UCONN in the conference would be huge and will continue to grow it nationally. That game would be the biggest game at the garden each year and create another instant rival with St.Johns....11 team conference double round robin for 20 games is great.....Its great to dream of a Friday night at the garden Big east semis being St. Johns, Nova, GTOWN and UCONN...basketball fan dream
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No football schools. After everything that went down they really wanna do this again?
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No football schools. After everything that went down they really wanna do this again?
I would take them all back again. We have a nice conference. But it is not the same.
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Bring back Cincy too. Rivalries in east coast and Midwest.
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Bring back Cincy too. Rivalries in east coast and Midwest.
Harder for them to give up their actually good football team. If we went to 12 members which I think would be unlikely, my first guess would be VCU.
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
VCU wouldn't draw 3000 people at the garden
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
VCU wouldn't draw 3000 people at the garden
So play them at Carnesecca.
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
VCU wouldn't draw 3000 people at the garden
So play them at Carnesecca.
How would that make the conference better ? Money plays a big part. Why should the big east give VCU money?
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
VCU wouldn't draw 3000 people at the garden
So play them at Carnesecca.
How would that make the conference better ? Money plays a big part. Why should the big east give VCU money?
Because they make the tournament consistently. Tournament appearances and tournament wins = $$$ for the conference which gets distributed amongst the member schools
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
VCU wouldn't draw 3000 people at the garden
So play them at Carnesecca.
How would that make the conference better ? Money plays a big part. Why should the big east give VCU money?
Because they make the tournament consistently. Tournament appearances and tournament wins = $$$ for the conference which gets distributed amongst the member schools
VCU's coach is in Austin. No more tournament wins. Why should we split TV money with a mid major not in the east? The current VCU team doesn't make the tournament if they played i the big east this year.
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Same could of been said about Creighton before they joined/
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
VCU wouldn't draw 3000 people at the garden
So play them at Carnesecca.
How would that make the conference better ? Money plays a big part. Why should the big east give VCU money?
Because they make the tournament consistently. Tournament appearances and tournament wins = $$$ for the conference which gets distributed amongst the member schools
VCU's coach is in Austin. No more tournament wins. Why should we split TV money with a mid major not in the east? The current VCU team doesn't make the tournament if they played i the big east this year.
Good thing the Big East doesn't actually use that logic or we would be in the NEC right now. Do you remember that VCU beat us pretty handily this year?
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
VCU wouldn't draw 3000 people at the garden
So play them at Carnesecca.
How would that make the conference better ? Money plays a big part. Why should the big east give VCU money?
Because they make the tournament consistently. Tournament appearances and tournament wins = $$$ for the conference which gets distributed amongst the member schools
VCU's coach is in Austin. No more tournament wins. Why should we split TV money with a mid major not in the east? The current VCU team doesn't make the tournament if they played i the big east this year.
Good thing the Big East doesn't actually use that logic or we would be in the NEC right now. Do you remember that VCU beat us pretty handily this year?
Yes. So did LIU. Do you want to put them in the big east?
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Big East will be fine.. Would love to add VCU and another team of their caliber. I say screw all the teams that chose to leave. We are a very good, successful conference, and most teams in the conference are trending upward.
VCU wouldn't draw 3000 people at the garden
So play them at Carnesecca.
How would that make the conference better ? Money plays a big part. Why should the big east give VCU money?
Because they make the tournament consistently. Tournament appearances and tournament wins = $$$ for the conference which gets distributed amongst the member schools
VCU's coach is in Austin. No more tournament wins. Why should we split TV money with a mid major not in the east? The current VCU team doesn't make the tournament if they played i the big east this year.
Good thing the Big East doesn't actually use that logic or we would be in the NEC right now. Do you remember that VCU beat us pretty handily this year?
Yes. So did LIU. Do you want to put them in the big east?
They can't be doing any worse than we have been over the past decade plus
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Heard Ollie out at end of season
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Heard Ollie out at end of season
Kevin Ollie at UCONN? Are you on crack? You mean fired or he goes to the NBA or another college job?
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Heard Ollie out at end of season
if that's the case then I definitely don't want Uconn in the big east
but his contract is something like 3 mill a year. where will he get more than that ?
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Heard Ollie out at end of season
Kevin Ollie at UCONN? Are you on crack? You mean fired or he goes to the NBA or another college job?
Personal problems
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2 monstrous Big East games on Saturday, 2 sold out professional arenas-
Marquette Athletics @muathletics 6m6 minutes ago
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It's OUR day and it's SOLD OUT! We are ready to rock the @BMOHBC! #WeAreMarquette #NationalMarquetteDay
Seton Hall Athletics @SHUAthletics 4h4 hours ago
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To accommodate the record crowd expected for Saturday's @SetonHallMBB game, @PruCenter doors will open 90min prior to tip (11am) #HALLin
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Markus Howard just took a big dump on Xavier
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2 monstrous Big East games on Saturday, 2 sold out professional arenas-
Marquette Athletics @muathletics 6m6 minutes ago
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It's OUR day and it's SOLD OUT! We are ready to rock the @BMOHBC! #WeAreMarquette #NationalMarquetteDay
Seton Hall Athletics @SHUAthletics 4h4 hours ago
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To accommodate the record crowd expected for Saturday's @SetonHallMBB game, @PruCenter doors will open 90min prior to tip (11am) #HALLin
2 games that weren't particularly competitive. Marquette needed this badly and Xavier is shorthanded without both Sumner and Bluiett.
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Nova 67% from the field 57% from three. Brunson 7 shots, 22 points. They are truly what a smart, well coached team looks like on both sides of the floor.
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DePaul/G'town deadlocked at 65 with 4.9 seconds remaining in DC. DePaul has the ball.
Syracuse won at the buzzer versus Duke up at the Dome. Gillon banked in a trey from about 25", as the buzzer sounded.
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What a dumpster fire Georgetown is right now
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What a dumpster fire Georgetown is right now
The dumpster fire has turned into an all-out forest fire. Garrett, Jr. was fouled at the rim with 0.2 seconds left, and nailed both freebies. The game was essentially over when he hit the first one, as most know you can't get a shot off with that much time remaining on the clock.
DePaul wins 67-65.
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What a dumpster fire Georgetown is right now
The dumpster fire has turned into an all-out forest fire. Garrett, Jr. was fouled at the rim with 0.2 seconds left, and nailed both freebies. The game was essentially over when he hit the first one, as most know you can't get a shot off with that much time remaining on the clock.
DePaul wins 67-65.
JTIII is safe for now. But the program has clearly hit a big pothole and apathy among the fan base has set in. Look at the crowds at the Verizon Center, lots of empty seats in the arena.
Next year is shaping up as a huge year for him.
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What a dumpster fire Georgetown is right now
The dumpster fire has turned into an all-out forest fire. Garrett, Jr. was fouled at the rim with 0.2 seconds left, and nailed both freebies. The game was essentially over when he hit the first one, as most know you can't get a shot off with that much time remaining on the clock.
DePaul wins 67-65.
JTIII is safe for now. But the program has clearly hit a big pothole and apathy among the fan base has set in. Look at the crowds at the Verizon Center, lots of empty seats in the arena.
Next year is shaping up as a huge year for him.
He'll be there for as long as wants
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What a dumpster fire Georgetown is right now
The dumpster fire has turned into an all-out forest fire. Garrett, Jr. was fouled at the rim with 0.2 seconds left, and nailed both freebies. The game was essentially over when he hit the first one, as most know you can't get a shot off with that much time remaining on the clock.
DePaul wins 67-65.
JTIII is safe for now. But the program has clearly hit a big pothole and apathy among the fan base has set in. Look at the crowds at the Verizon Center, lots of empty seats in the arena.
Next year is shaping up as a huge year for him.
He'll be there for as long as wants
He might be fine for next season. But, I don't think he'll be there forever. I still believe if they lose out, and lose in the first round of the Big East tournament, then we could possibly see a change after this season.
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What a dumpster fire Georgetown is right now
The dumpster fire has turned into an all-out forest fire. Garrett, Jr. was fouled at the rim with 0.2 seconds left, and nailed both freebies. The game was essentially over when he hit the first one, as most know you can't get a shot off with that much time remaining on the clock.
DePaul wins 67-65.
JTIII is safe for now. But the program has clearly hit a big pothole and apathy among the fan base has set in. Look at the crowds at the Verizon Center, lots of empty seats in the arena.
Next year is shaping up as a huge year for him.
He'll be there for as long as wants
I don't buy that, he doesn't have a lifetime guarantee. But he has banked some goodwill with his earlier success.
On a different note the BE needs SJU and Georgetown to be good. They are important pieces for the League.
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BTW-If I were JTIII I would stay away from twitter tonight. Here is the #hoyas:
https://twitter.com/hashtag/hoyas?f=tweets&vertical=default
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Billy Garrett said in the postgame presser he didn't think Gtown wanted to play hard tonight. That's brutal
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Butler has Nova on the ropes and Providence about to beat Creighton in Omaha.
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Butler has Nova on the ropes and Providence about to beat Creighton in Omaha.
Nova looks tired
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Really amazing how Georgetown is not even close to making the tournament this year with the bubble being so bad. Can't think of another team in the country that has underachieved more this year.
Meanwhile Providence beats Creighton at the buzzer in Omaha and is now right on the bubble. Cooley is a damn good coach.
Butler looking to complete the season sweep over Nova. Butler is a team I can't get a handle on. Such a weird team
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Really amazing how Georgetown is not even close to making the tournament this year with the bubble being so bad. Can't think of another team in the country that has underachieved more this year.
Meanwhile Providence beats Creighton at the buzzer in Omaha and is now right on the bubble. Cooley is a damn good coach.
Butler looking to complete the season sweep over Nova. Butler is a team I can't get a handle on. Such a weird team
Butler is a of glue guys. Smart and well coached
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Really amazing how Georgetown is not even close to making the tournament this year with the bubble being so bad. Can't think of another team in the country that has underachieved more this year.
Meanwhile Providence beats Creighton at the buzzer in Omaha and is now right on the bubble. Cooley is a damn good coach.
Butler looking to complete the season sweep over Nova. Butler is a team I can't get a handle on. Such a weird team
Butler is a of glue guys. Smart and well coached
Yep. But they lost to Gtown and a post Watson Creighton team at home in the past month and now go and win at Nova. Hard to get a grasp on them
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Garrett and DePaul over JT3 or Showtime and the 04 Johnnies over Craig Esherick? What's worse?
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Really amazing how Georgetown is not even close to making the tournament this year with the bubble being so bad. Can't think of another team in the country that has underachieved more this year.
Meanwhile Providence beats Creighton at the buzzer in Omaha and is now right on the bubble. Cooley is a damn good coach.
Butler looking to complete the season sweep over Nova. Butler is a team I can't get a handle on. Such a weird team
Butler is a of glue guys. Smart and well coached
Yep. But they lost to Gtown and a post Watson Creighton team at home in the past month and now go and win at Nova. Hard to get a grasp on them
Chrabasz is 1 of my favorite players. A winner
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What a dumpster fire Georgetown is right now
Well at least until Saturday when they probably beat us after losing at home to DePaul. Can anyone say ninth place?
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Garrett and DePaul over JT3 or Showtime and the 04 Johnnies over Craig Esherick? What's worse?
JT3 because he's got the brand down there.
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Injured Creighton PG Maurice Watson Jr has been charged with first degree sexual assault.
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Injured Creighton PG Maurice Watson Jr has been charged with first degree sexual assault.
Can't help but to think this might have not happened if he wasn't injured. Still an awful thing to do and will be rightly punished by the law.
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I've known Moe since he was in High School. Extremely high character kid. I'm shocked if true.
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Injured Creighton PG Maurice Watson Jr has been charged with first degree sexual assault.
Can't help but to think this might have not happened if he wasn't injured. Still an awful thing to do and will be rightly punished by the law.
Because all injured players go out and commit sexual assault? What was it part of his rehab?
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This Marquette Providence game might have to be called. Court is Slippery mess
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Your boy Howard having a hell of a game too. Knocking down 3's and dominating.
This Marquette Providence game might have to be called. Court is Slippery mess
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Your boy Howard having a hell of a game too. Knocking down 3's and dominating.
This Marquette Providence game might have to be called. Court is Slippery mess
I'm going to the Marquette/Creighton game next Saturday
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Cooley starting his antics early
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Cooley can coach my team anytime. No doubt they would come back to make it a game even when down ten late in second.
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I've known Moe since he was in High School. Extremely high character kid. I'm shocked if true.
Creighton's Mo Watson, Jr., who was reportedly dodging police, turns himself in for sexual assault charge:
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Update on Maurice Watson Jr
Still one sided, but these details of the allegations are very disturbing
http://www.omaha.com/news/crime/prosecutor-says-maurice-watson-forced-woman-to-perform-sex-act/article_8026aa02-fd21-11e6-ada1-07e99797619c.html
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Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 2h2 hours ago
Villanova is expected in this evening for 2019 Glens Falls guard Joseph Girard
Had 42 points with 9 3's and a handful of great passes in a sectional win last night. Has reached 2000 career points as a sophomore and is on pace to break the NYS HS scoring record before his senior year...There is no reason CM should not at least take a look.
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Marquette up 13 at halftime against Xavier 44-31 in Cincy. X-men in a complete freefall, if they lose tonight would be 6 in a row. Slipping onto the bubble.
Marquette has blown some leads this year, up 5 under a minute at SHU and lose, up 7 at Providence on Saturday and lose late. So not over yet.
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Marquette up 13 at halftime against Xavier 44-31 in Cincy. X-men in a complete freefall, if they lose tonight would be 6 in a row. Slipping onto the bubble.
Marquette has blown some leads this year, up 5 under a minute at SHU and lose, up 7 at Providence on Saturday and lose late. So not over yet.
1 and done if they get in. Blueitt sucks
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Come on the Bluett doesn't suck. He is hobbled. Kid was a first team all BE player for pretty much the whole season.
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Come on the Bluett doesn't suck. He is hobbled. Kid was a first team all BE player for pretty much the whole season.
Most overrated Big East player since Chris Wright of Georgetown
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Come on the Bluett doesn't suck. He is hobbled. Kid was a first team all BE player for pretty much the whole season.
I like Bluiett but the announcers were talking as thought he won't be back next year. Where is he gona go? Don't see him as an NBA guy. Very Solid college player but I don't see NBA potential and I have seen a ton of there games.
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I honestly don't see Xavier winning again. And they have a game @DePaul.
They're just not the same at all without Sumner. He was the driving force of that team.
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I honestly don't see Xavier winning again. And they have a game @DePaul.
They're just not the same at all without Sumner. He was the driving force of that team.
Yep. Really becoming evident now how important Sumner was to that team and how good he really is.
Marquette winning @ Xavier is good for the conference. Xavier will make the tournament regardless and this win is a big boost to Marquette's chances. There is actually a decent chance the conference gets 7 teams in which looked impossible just a few weeks ago
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Xavier will make the tournament regardless
Assuming they beat DePaul...
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Marquette put up 52 at half, Jajuan Johnson going off on senior day with 18. Marquette wins they get 3rd seed I believe. Baldi in the house
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Xavier picks up a much needed win at Depaul to keep them from slipping further down the bubble. They play DePaul again Wednesday at MSG
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Seton Hall wins at Hinkle and essentially clinches a spot in the NCAA Tournament. They can win the BET again
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SHU about to rally and beat Butler after being down 10.
4 teams about to finish 10-8.
I think the Tourney seeding will be Nova, Butler, Marquette, PC, SHU,Creighton, Xavier, SJU, Georgetown, DePaul.
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Why is Baldi at this game instead of Iona in the MAC tourney" ???
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Why is Baldi at this game instead of Iona in the MAC tourney" ???
I'd rather go to Milwaukee than Albany.
My niece is on Marquette dance team. Family trip to visit once a year
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Hey Marco, your boy Donte made the game saving play that won't show up in the box score by tipping the ball out of Delgado's hands as he attempted a put back of his own miss in the final seconds.
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The Big East couldn't ask for a better tournament this year. Attendance way up. Hope we get a great title game.
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The Big East couldn't ask for a better tournament this year. Attendance way up. Hope we get a great title game.
Yup, usually is a great tournament, played with high intensity and with engaged crowds. Would like for us to make a deep run some day, preferably before I croak.
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Yup. Our Nova blow out was the only bad game. And our first round game against Georgetown had 15,000 and an electric atmosphere. Name another first round tourney game in one of these other leagues that can match how MSG was Wednesday night?
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Great tournament and tonight was incredible. Crowd was great and the games were amazing. Proud to be a in the Big East and as others have said let's close it out with another good one tomorrow.
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Yup. Our Nova blow out was the only bad game. And our first round game against Georgetown had 15,000 and an electric atmosphere. Name another first round tourney game in one of these other leagues that can match how MSG was Wednesday night?
You thought the Providence/Creighton game was good?
IMO, that was one of the most unwatchable non-SJU games that I have ever seen.
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Hey Marco, your boy Donte made the game saving play that won't show up in the box score by tipping the ball out of Delgado's hands as he attempted a put back of his own miss in the final seconds.
Yup. And he got the big rebound when nova was down 1 on the possesion leading to the Jenkins missed 3/Hart layup
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Tremont Waters, Georgetown's best recruit, wants out from his NLI. Ouch, hits keep coming for JTIII.
For the record the BE intra-conference transfer rules include players who have signed NLI's with another member. In other words assuming he is released Waters is ineligible to sign with another BE school.
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Hey Marco, your boy Donte made the game saving play that won't show up in the box score by tipping the ball out of Delgado's hands as he attempted a put back of his own miss in the final seconds.
Yup. And he got the big rebound when nova was down 1 on the possesion leading to the Jenkins missed 3/Hart layup
That's one way of rationalizing his 7 ppg average this tournament in games against teams not named St. John's.
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Hey Marco, your boy Donte made the game saving play that won't show up in the box score by tipping the ball out of Delgado's hands as he attempted a put back of his own miss in the final seconds.
Yup. And he got the big rebound when nova was down 1 on the possesion leading to the Jenkins missed 3/Hart layup
That's one way of rationalizing his 7 ppg average this tournament in games against teams not named St. John's.
Yeah cause we're not a legit team. Love when people say let's take the best game or games from someone to give them a new average, how about taking their worse games out. He is a redshirt fr who doesn't start for a championship caliber team. You wouldn't take his contributions on our powerhouse?
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Providence falling apart here in the 2nd half against SC.
Once up 15 at halftime now down 7 with 3 minutes to go. A 22 point swing.
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Man I would have liked to see Prov win for the conference but there is another side to me not mad at all that diseased head had a heart breaking end of the season.
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Man I would have liked to see Prov win for the conference but there is another side to me not mad at all that diseased head had a heart breaking end of the season.
I said a few days ago that the Big East probably won't fare well in the tournament, and Providence has started it off.
I didn't care one way or another tonight as I'm not particularly a fan of the Friars.
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Just remember this statistic when you put so much emphasis on the NCAA Tourney and how good a program or conference is.. Do you know how many Sweet 16's Jay Wright and Villanova have been to the last 8 years? 1, last year's NC run.
They have been a 2 seed 2 times (2010, 2014,) a 1 seed twice (2015 and 2017), a 9 seed twice (2011 and 2013) and missed the Tourney altogether in 2012. So 7 times in 8 years including 4 times when they were either a 1 or 2 seed they have failed to make it out of the 1st weekend.
Think about that, and they are by a COUNTRY MILE, the class of the Big East.
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Just remember this statistic when you put so much emphasis on the NCAA Tourney and how good a program or conference is.. Do you know how many Sweet 16's Jay Wright and Villanova have been to the last 8 years? 1, last year's NC run.
They have been a 2 seed 2 times (2010, 2014,) a 1 seed twice (2015 and 2017), a 9 seed twice (2011 and 2013) and missed the Tourney altogether in 2012. So 7 times in 8 years including 4 times when they were either a 1 or 2 seed they have failed to make it out of the 1st weekend.
Think about that, and they are by a COUNTRY MILE, the class of the Big East.
You just made a compelling argument that the BE sucks, and how far away we are from being any good. :)
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Just remember this statistic when you put so much emphasis on the NCAA Tourney and how good a program or conference is.. Do you know how many Sweet 16's Jay Wright and Villanova have been to the last 8 years? 1, last year's NC run.
They have been a 2 seed 2 times (2010, 2014,) a 1 seed twice (2015 and 2017), a 9 seed twice (2011 and 2013) and missed the Tourney altogether in 2012. So 7 times in 8 years including 4 times when they were either a 1 or 2 seed they have failed to make it out of the 1st weekend.
Think about that, and they are by a COUNTRY MILE, the class of the Big East.
You just made a compelling argument that the BE sucks, and how far away we are from being any good. :)
No I made an argument about how measuring a conference and coaches by NCAA wins and losses can be misleading. It's a one and done scenario where bad matchup and mis-seedings happen. Put it to you another way, Mark Gottfried has more second weekend appearances over that period than does Jay Wright. Who is a better coach by far and who just got fired?
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In other news, JT III made $3.67mm in 2014: http://www.casualhoya.com/2017/3/20/14976582/john-thompson-iii-salary-is-higher-than-thought-georgetown-hoyas-basketball-coach
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Per Goodman, another hit for the Hoyas
Georgetown's LJ Peak is forgoing his senior season, intends to sign with agent, sources told ESPN. Gets worse... espn.com/espn/now?nowId…
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Per Goodman, another hit for the Hoyas
Georgetown's LJ Peak is forgoing his senior season, intends to sign with agent, sources told ESPN. Gets worse... espn.com/espn/now?nowId…
Lol. Can't get out of that place fast enough
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Ouch. They are going to be cellar dwellers.
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Peak is awful. Maybe he and Lovett can room together in Azerbaijan.
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Peak is awful. Maybe he and Lovett can room together in Azerbaijan.
He's not awful at all. He could find himself in the mid-to-latter half of the 2nd round with a good workout. If not, then he'll get invited to some NBA team summer camp.
I said, there would be more hits coming to Georgetown, and they're not done with the hits.
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Seton Hall G Dalton Soffer (SO) is leaving the program. (HT @GamepointNation) verbalcommits.com/players/dalton…
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Per Rothstein
Seton Hall's Angel Delgado and Khadeen Carrington will both enter the 2017 NBA Draft, but won't hire an agent, per multiple sources. #shbb
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Peak ain't awful. He was a pretty good player with great size for the position who would be even better next year as a senior. Don't love him but don't think he is awful
Peak is awful. Maybe he and Lovett can room together in Azerbaijan.
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That board might be on melt down mode right now
Per Rothstein
Seton Hall's Angel Delgado and Khadeen Carrington will both enter the 2017 NBA Draft, but won't hire an agent, per multiple sources. #shbb
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Peak ain't awful. He was a pretty good player with great size for the position who would be even better next year as a senior. Don't love him but don't think he is awful
Peak is awful. Maybe he and Lovett can room together in Azerbaijan.
Another wasted career at Georgetown under JT3
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That board might be on melt down mode right now
Per Rothstein
Seton Hall's Angel Delgado and Khadeen Carrington will both enter the 2017 NBA Draft, but won't hire an agent, per multiple sources. #shbb
Meh. Guys entering the draft without hiring an agent is pretty standard stuff these days. They shouldn't be freaking out just yet. I think both guys end up returning
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That board might be on melt down mode right now
Per Rothstein
Seton Hall's Angel Delgado and Khadeen Carrington will both enter the 2017 NBA Draft, but won't hire an agent, per multiple sources. #shbb
Meh. Guys entering the draft without hiring an agent is pretty standard stuff these days. They shouldn't be freaking out just yet. I think both guys end up returning
There's a good chance Delgado may not return. I definitely believe Carrington returns.
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Peak is awful. Maybe he and Lovett can room together in Azerbaijan.
He's not awful at all. He could find himself in the mid-to-latter half of the 2nd round with a good workout. If not, then he'll get invited to some NBA team summer camp.
I said, there would be more hits coming to Georgetown, and they're not done with the hits.
With Marillac players are either awful or incredible. ;)
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Sumner of Xavier declares for draft. Sounds from his announcement he will hire an agent.
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Sumner of Xavier declares for draft. Sounds from his announcement he will hire an agent.
I'm not particularly surprised. Although, I thought there was a slight chance he'd return due to his injury. But, that was also probably a reason to move on. He's also already 21 years old. He'll probably end up being a late, first rounder, too.
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Sumner of Xavier declares for draft. Sounds from his announcement he will hire an agent.
I'm not particularly surprised. Although, I thought there was a slight chance he'd return due to his injury. But, that was also probably a reason to move on. He's also already 21 years old. He'll probably end up being a late, first rounder, too.
I was thinking mid 2nd round at best. Can't see NBA teams using a 1st rounder on a ?
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Sumner of Xavier declares for draft. Sounds from his announcement he will hire an agent.
I'm not particularly surprised. Although, I thought there was a slight chance he'd return due to his injury. But, that was also probably a reason to move on. He's also already 21 years old. He'll probably end up being a late, first rounder, too.
I was thinking mid 2nd round at best. Can't see NBA teams using a 1st rounder on a ?
You could be right. That's probably worst case scenario for Sumner.
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Sumner of Xavier declares for draft. Sounds from his announcement he will hire an agent.
I'm not particularly surprised. Although, I thought there was a slight chance he'd return due to his injury. But, that was also probably a reason to move on. He's also already 21 years old. He'll probably end up being a late, first rounder, too.
I was thinking mid 2nd round at best. Can't see NBA teams using a 1st rounder on a ?
You could be right. That's probably worst case scenario for Sumner.
Pre injury an absolute first rounder. If he's not guaranteed to be chosen in round 1, he should come back and prove himself
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Sumner of Xavier declares for draft. Sounds from his announcement he will hire an agent.
I'm not particularly surprised. Although, I thought there was a slight chance he'd return due to his injury. But, that was also probably a reason to move on. He's also already 21 years old. He'll probably end up being a late, first rounder, too.
I was thinking mid 2nd round at best. Can't see NBA teams using a 1st rounder on a ?
You could be right. That's probably worst case scenario for Sumner.
Pre injury an absolute first rounder. If he's not guaranteed to be chosen in round 1, he should come back and prove himself
Better to rehab with the team that drafts you. If medical reports are good no reason if talent is first round he won't go in first round.
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Oddly enough he can have the same trajectory as former Xavier phenom Semaj Christon, who fought through OKC's farm system before emerging into their rotation this year. A NBA talent for sure.
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Pete Thamel of SI.com says Georgetown is the laughingstock of Final 4:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/04/02/georgetown-coaching-search-hoyas-thompson
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Pete Thamel of SI.com says Georgetown is the laughingstock of Final 4:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/04/02/georgetown-coaching-search-hoyas-thompson
We don't exactly come out smelling like a rose at the end of the article saying the hiring of Ewing may be like making the same mistake as Houston hiring Clyde Drexler and us hiring Mullin.
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Pete Thamel of SI.com says Georgetown is the laughingstock of Final 4:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/04/02/georgetown-coaching-search-hoyas-thompson
Threw Mullin under the bus
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Pete Thamel of SI.com says Georgetown is the laughingstock of Final 4:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/04/02/georgetown-coaching-search-hoyas-thompson
Threw Mullin under the bus
That's not the larger point. Whatever you think of the Mullin hire it is who SJU wanted. SJU had a plan, move on from Lavin, offer it to Mullin and if he says no go to Hurley. They had a specific plan in place.
It is clear Georgetown did not have a plan. They clearly did not want to fire JT3 and that is why it took 2 weeks to do it. And because of the last minute push to fire him they have been scrambling ever since.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
Sources: Ewing has spent week identifying potential candidates to pursue as part of a high-level, experienced college coaching staff.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
Sources: Ewing has spent week identifying potential candidates to pursue as part of a high-level, experienced college coaching staff.
Whats that?????
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Ewing hired
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
Sources: Ewing has spent week identifying potential candidates to pursue as part of a high-level, experienced college coaching staff.
Whats that?????
Have no fear Mo is pursuing plans to revamp his staff with Red Auerbach, Red Holtzman, and Red Klotz!
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA
Sources: Ewing has spent week identifying potential candidates to pursue as part of a high-level, experienced college coaching staff.
Whats that?????
Have no fear Mo is pursuing plans to revamp his staff with Red Auerbach, Red Holtzman, and Red Klotz!
And fire Red Foxx
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Ewing hired
This is spectacular for the league!
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Ewing hired
I like it, being I'm not a fan of the Hoyas. Meaning, I don't believe he's gonna work out for 'em in the long run. This has John Thompson, Sr. written all over it. Frankly, their coaching search was a sham and fait accompli.
He'll initially generate some hype, as we saw with Mullin. But, it doesn't take long before the hype train to come to a crawl, if wins aren't being garnered.
IMO, this is a placated move and an attempt to relive the 80's. Good luck to 'em! NATE!
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Ewing hired
I like it, being I'm not a fan of the Hoyas. Meaning, I don't believe he's gonna work out for 'em in the long run. This has John Thompson, Sr. written all over it. Frankly, their coaching search was a sham and fait accompli.
He'll initially generate some hype, as we saw with Mullin. But, it doesn't take long before the hype train to come to a crawl, if wins aren't being garnered.
IMO, this is a placated move and an attempt to relive the 80's. Good luck to 'em! NATE!
This is nothing like SJU. Ewing HAS COACHING EXPERIENCE. Plus, the NBA experience. Yes, he'll have to prove himself, but if he surrounds himself with the right staff, I'd expect them to have immediate success.
gio
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Ewing hired
I like it, being I'm not a fan of the Hoyas. Meaning, I don't believe he's gonna work out for 'em in the long run. This has John Thompson, Sr. written all over it. Frankly, their coaching search was a sham and fait accompli.
He'll initially generate some hype, as we saw with Mullin. But, it doesn't take long before the hype train to come to a crawl, if wins aren't being garnered.
IMO, this is a placated move and an attempt to relive the 80's. Good luck to 'em! NATE!
Couldn't agree more. Ewing got the job by default because the 7 or so they pursued turned it down. Program will be in the quicksand as long as JT moping around. DePaul must be happy
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Ewing hired
I like it, being I'm not a fan of the Hoyas. Meaning, I don't believe he's gonna work out for 'em in the long run. This has John Thompson, Sr. written all over it. Frankly, their coaching search was a sham and fait accompli.
He'll initially generate some hype, as we saw with Mullin. But, it doesn't take long before the hype train to come to a crawl, if wins aren't being garnered.
IMO, this is a placated move and an attempt to relive the 80's. Good luck to 'em! NATE!
This is nothing like SJU. Ewing HAS EXPERIENCE. Plus, the NBA experience. Yes, he'll have to prove himself, but if he surrounds himself with the right staff, I'd expect them to have immediate success.
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I never said, it was like St. John's. I still believe there were better options than Ewing. If his name wasn't Patrick Ewing, then Georgetown would've never looked into hiring an NBA assistant coach.
I'm not one who believe he'll have immediate success. But, that's just me.
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Maybe he hires Mike Jarvis as Associate Head Coach.
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Ewing hired
I like it, being I'm not a fan of the Hoyas. Meaning, I don't believe he's gonna work out for 'em in the long run. This has John Thompson, Sr. written all over it. Frankly, their coaching search was a sham and fait accompli.
He'll initially generate some hype, as we saw with Mullin. But, it doesn't take long before the hype train to come to a crawl, if wins aren't being garnered.
IMO, this is a placated move and an attempt to relive the 80's. Good luck to 'em! NATE!
Couldn't agree more. Ewing got the job by default because the 7 or so they pursued turned it down. Program will be in the quicksand as long as JT moping around. DePaul must be happy
Based on what I heard, they didn't pursue that many coaches. They only pursued Smart, Amaker, Cooley, and placed out feelers to Brey. I think their attempt to go after Chris Mack was a farce, as they more than likely knew Mack wasn't gonna depart from Xavier to go to Georgetown.
I think Ewing was always in the forefront, but they had to do their "due diligence," per se'.
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Maybe he hires Mike Jarvis as Associate Head Coach.
Or Allen Iverson
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Maybe he hires Mike Jarvis as Associate Head Coach.
Or Allen Iverson
Heard that is actually a possibility
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Maybe he hires Mike Jarvis as Associate Head Coach.
Or Allen Iverson
Heard that is actually a possibility
Practice?
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This is high ceiling, low floor hire to me. It could work out great or it could be a struggle. A more established coach would probably give you a better sense of a positive future but I think it will end up working well. I think bigs will want to get coached by Patrick. Similar to our situation except that Ewing has more a lot of experience as an assistant coach. He needs a strong recruiter and bench coach like most first time college coaches do.
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Ewing hired
I like it, being I'm not a fan of the Hoyas. Meaning, I don't believe he's gonna work out for 'em in the long run. This has John Thompson, Sr. written all over it. Frankly, their coaching search was a sham and fait accompli.
He'll initially generate some hype, as we saw with Mullin. But, it doesn't take long before the hype train to come to a crawl, if wins aren't being garnered.
IMO, this is a placated move and an attempt to relive the 80's. Good luck to 'em! NATE!
Sounds eerily familiar
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Ewing hired
I like it, being I'm not a fan of the Hoyas. Meaning, I don't believe he's gonna work out for 'em in the long run. This has John Thompson, Sr. written all over it. Frankly, their coaching search was a sham and fait accompli.
He'll initially generate some hype, as we saw with Mullin. But, it doesn't take long before the hype train to come to a crawl, if wins aren't being garnered.
IMO, this is a placated move and an attempt to relive the 80's. Good luck to 'em! NATE!
Sounds eerily familiar
A good friend (who happens to be a Hoya fan) read some quotes from Hoya posters, and several of those posts sounds "eerily familar," as well. Practically verbatim.
By the way, this friend isn't fond of G'town's hire, either.
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Maybe he hires Mike Jarvis as Associate Head Coach.
Or Allen Iverson
Heard that is actually a possibility
Practice?
Practice? Practice? We talkin bout practice? Not a game, not a game! We talkin bout practice!
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Eddie Jordan had HC experience in the NBA, actually had some success with Washington. Went back to his alma mater Rutgers and ....
Look there is no perfect formula. I know this though, Georgetown is set to be terrible next year no matter who coaches. So Ewing will be given time like Mullin has.
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Creighton's Justin Patton going pro, hiring an agent.
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Creighton's Justin Patton going pro, hiring an agent.
If we can just weaken all of our opponents we just may have a chance to have a special season.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ASlater247/status/851591197168742400
Top 50 kid to Providence
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ASlater247/status/851591197168742400
Top 50 kid to Providence
Providence gets a 4 star kid. We are waiting on someone else's scraps. Something wrong with this picture
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ASlater247/status/851591197168742400
Top 50 kid to Providence
Providence gets a 4 star kid. We are waiting on someone else's scraps. Something wrong with this picture
Cooley's been recruiting him longer than Mullin's been coaching.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ASlater247/status/851591197168742400
Top 50 kid to Providence
Providence gets a 4 star kid. We are waiting on someone else's scraps. Something wrong with this picture
Cooley's been recruiting him longer than Mullin's been coaching.
Chance favors the aggressor
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Creighton's Justin Patton going pro, hiring an agent.
Smart move with the weakest big man draft class in maybe a decade. Sucks for Creighton and Big East.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ASlater247/status/851591197168742400
Top 50 kid to Providence
Providence gets a 4 star kid. We are waiting on someone else's scraps. Something wrong with this picture
Cooley's been recruiting him longer than Mullin's been coaching.
Chance favors the aggressor
Saw that tweet, thought it was exquisitely stupid. Chance doesn't favor anyone, that's what makes it chance.
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Kanter to Xavier
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
Can't blame the kid, he wants to play in the tournament
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
Bad shape? They have the best recruiting class in program history and could possibly bring back he top 5 players from an elite eight run if Bluiett returns.
Xavier got good minutes from a grad transfers from Florida A&M and Norfolk State this last season.
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Also, it looks like Bluiett will return after he was busted on marijuana possession this weekend.
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
Bad shape? They have the best recruiting class in program history and could possibly bring back he top 5 players from an elite eight run if Bluiett returns.
Xavier got good minutes from a grad transfers from Florida A&M and Norfolk State this last season.
Just poking fun at Baldi who took a shot at SJU for going after transfers from smaller conferences
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
Bad shape? They have the best recruiting class in program history and could possibly bring back he top 5 players from an elite eight run if Bluiett returns.
Xavier got good minutes from a grad transfers from Florida A&M and Norfolk State this last season.
Just poking fun at Baldi who took a shot at SJU for going after transfers from smaller conferences
Missed that.
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
Bad shape? They have the best recruiting class in program history and could possibly bring back he top 5 players from an elite eight run if Bluiett returns.
Xavier got good minutes from a grad transfers from Florida A&M and Norfolk State this last season.
Just poking fun at Baldi who took a shot at SJU for going after transfers from smaller conferences
Missed that.
We need better players
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
Bad shape? They have the best recruiting class in program history and could possibly bring back he top 5 players from an elite eight run if Bluiett returns.
Xavier got good minutes from a grad transfers from Florida A&M and Norfolk State this last season.
Just poking fun at Baldi who took a shot at SJU for going after transfers from smaller conferences
Missed that.
We need better players
You made of me for saying this Kanter kid would be a perfect fit but then an elite 8 team and one of the two or three best teams from our conference goes out and grabs him.
Apology accepted.
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
Bad shape? They have the best recruiting class in program history and could possibly bring back he top 5 players from an elite eight run if Bluiett returns.
Xavier got good minutes from a grad transfers from Florida A&M and Norfolk State this last season.
Just poking fun at Baldi who took a shot at SJU for going after transfers from smaller conferences
Missed that.
We need better players
You made of me for saying this Kanter kid would be a perfect fit but then an elite 8 team and one of the two or three best teams from our conference goes out and grabs him.
Apology accepted.
They are an elite 8 team. They can afford to add players from weaker conferences.
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Kanter to Xavier
Damn, Xavier must be in bad shape if they are reaching for transfers from Green Bay
Bad shape? They have the best recruiting class in program history and could possibly bring back he top 5 players from an elite eight run if Bluiett returns.
Xavier got good minutes from a grad transfers from Florida A&M and Norfolk State this last season.
Just poking fun at Baldi who took a shot at SJU for going after transfers from smaller conferences
Missed that.
We need better players
You made of me for saying this Kanter kid would be a perfect fit but then an elite 8 team and one of the two or three best teams from our conference goes out and grabs him.
Apology accepted.
They are an elite 8 team. They can afford to add players from weaker conferences.
Well that makes absolutely no sense but good try
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Trolling at a professional level. There is no handbook for this shit. You need to be born with it and Baldi was. Just accept it.
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Trolling at a professional level. There is no handbook for this shit. You need to be born with it and Baldi was. Just accept it.
Hahha., always liked you Coffey. As a St Johns fan, we just need a commitment at this point.
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Totally agree but we have made a commitment. I think we'll be good going forward but you seem to want the opposite.
My cousin is the working in the administration at Iona so I always want them to do good. She has met with Cluess and Grasso and loves them so I don't want anything bad for them. But why do you seem to get off on bad things happening to St. Johns. May just be a social experiment but just curious?
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Totally agree but we have made a commitment. I think we'll be good going forward but you seem to want the opposite.
My cousin is the working in the administration at Iona so I always want them to do good. She has met with Cluess and Grasso and loves them so I don't want anything bad for them. But why do you seem to get off on bad things happening to St. Johns. May just be a social experiment but just curious?
A few things. Not a fan of how that Slice thing went down. Grew up in Queens where everyone was a St Johns fan. And still waiting for this matchup on the schedule
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Iona V stjohns matchup?
Agreed the Slice thing was bad, and it sounds like he wasn't treated well from your side of things. But Shit! This is the big league. Slices has 4 or 5 Hundy a year to do nothing. If he is your pal become friends real quick before he has to earn again. When he shows up again with Cal, take your free tickets. But this is St John's, and you already know we are miring in a different muck. We fight for the 3 stars but are still above playing Iona. Sorry man but that's how it is and will be.
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Robert Snyder @RobbieBuckets
SOURCE: Jalen Brunson leaning heavily towards entering NBA draft. @VUhoops
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Brunson back for his junior year per Borzello
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Brunson back for his junior year per Borzello
He may have not gotten drafted, if he had entered this year's draft.
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Brunson back for his junior year per Borzello
He may have not gotten drafted, if he had entered this year's draft.
Possibly not. Another example of a very effective college PG who may have some trouble adjusting to the NBA game.
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Huge for Nova. He could be the BE player of the year this year.
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Brunson back for his junior year per Borzello
He would have been an idiot to declare with the PG crop this year.
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Per Zach B
Talked to Seton Hall commit Sandro Mamukelashvili. Said he hung out with Angel Delgado on visit, and expects to play with him. Hmmm. #shbb
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/858736651736158208
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/858736651736158208
A school that actually signs recruits.
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Per Goodman:
Providence coach Ed Cooley told ESPN that Rodney Bullock informed him he will be back next season. Withdrawing from NBA Draft process.
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Per Goodman:
Providence coach Ed Cooley told ESPN that Rodney Bullock informed him he will be back next season. Withdrawing from NBA Draft process.
Top 3 team in BE next year
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
Nobody is arguing that Providence is the preseason favorite in the Big East.
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Cooley's a good coach who gets the most out of his players.
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
Doesn't matter who you lose it is who you have. Nova returns plenty of talent and is bringing kids in.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
This is crazy talk. Providence and SH are definitely tournament caliber teams, but Nova, X, and Creighton are all comfortably ahead of them. I'd also squeeze Butler in there at four--although that will be a cramped grouping 4-7 with us in there as well.
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
This is crazy talk. Providence and SH are definitely tournament caliber teams, but Nova, X, and Creighton are all comfortably ahead of them. I'd also squeeze Butler in there at four--although that will be a cramped grouping 4-7 with us in there as well.
No way. Creighton lost 3/5 of their starting 5. Providence returns 3 best players and Diallo is gonna break out.
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Providence and Hall are senior laden, battle tested, and are returning nearly everyone hungry and ready to eat. They have unfinished business.
Nova, X and Creighton have lost their leaders and most talented players to the draft and graduation. They're reloading but also rebuilding from their runs. Although very talented, they will have new identities next year. Even though they're retaining some they're not nearly at the strength and cohesion that the ladder two have.
We'll be lucky to be in this elite mix. To reemphasize, we need another big in the worst way.
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Sometimes senior laden teams go south as players become selfish playing for contracts. Just saying.
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If we don't get an impact big for next year who can play both ends of the floor then we'll be a 16-17 win team at best. And those other conf. teams who are rebuilding are finely tuned machines with excellent coaching. They just insert new pieces and they'll still probably be better than us. Need a big and Mike Rice too.
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
This is crazy talk. Providence and SH are definitely tournament caliber teams, but Nova, X, and Creighton are all comfortably ahead of them. I'd also squeeze Butler in there at four--although that will be a cramped grouping 4-7 with us in there as well.
No way. Creighton lost 3/5 of their starting 5. Providence returns 3 best players and Diallo is gonna break out.
Creighton will start the Syracuse transfer and redshirt JR Kaleb Joseph at PG next to Khyri Thomas (12.5 and 5.8), who is hands down the rebounding wing and best perimeter defender in the conference, and Marcus Foster (18.3 ppg last year). Ronnie Harrell was the highest rated recruit Creighton ever landed and will be backing them up with the soon to be soph Davion Mintz, who was very good playing 20 mpg when Watson went down. Up front Tobyb Hegner is back for his 15th season it seems, and he started the two years before Patton. They have a 7-0 230 transfer eligible in December, and a pretty solid 6'9 rebounder in Kampalj. They also have threee top 100 recruits -- which is the best recruiting class in school history. One kid is 6'11 and ranked the #7 center in the class.
With Patton they would have been contending for a national championship or at least
A Final Four appearance.
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
This is crazy talk. Providence and SH are definitely tournament caliber teams, but Nova, X, and Creighton are all comfortably ahead of them. I'd also squeeze Butler in there at four--although that will be a cramped grouping 4-7 with us in there as well.
No way. Creighton lost 3/5 of their starting 5. Providence returns 3 best players and Diallo is gonna break out.
Creighton will start the Syracuse transfer and redshirt JR Kaleb Joseph at PG next to Khyri Thomas (12.5 and 5.8), who is hands down the rebounding wing and best perimeter defender in the conference, and Marcus Foster (18.3 ppg last year). Ronnie Harrell was the highest rated recruit Creighton ever landed and will be backing them up with the soon to be soph Davion Mintz, who was very good playing 20 mpg when Watson went down. Up front Tobyb Hegner is back for his 15th season it seems, and he started the two years before Patton. They have a 7-0 230 transfer eligible in December, and a pretty solid 6'9 rebounder in Kampalj. They also have threee top 100 recruits -- which is the best recruiting class in school history. One kid is 6'11 and ranked the #7 center in the class.
With Patton they would have been contending for a national championship or at least
A Final Four appearance.
Give me Bullock Cartwright and Holt over Thomas foster and the cuse bum. I'm not sure creighton improves this year. I'm positive providence does.
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
This is crazy talk. Providence and SH are definitely tournament caliber teams, but Nova, X, and Creighton are all comfortably ahead of them. I'd also squeeze Butler in there at four--although that will be a cramped grouping 4-7 with us in there as well.
No way. Creighton lost 3/5 of their starting 5. Providence returns 3 best players and Diallo is gonna break out.
Creighton will start the Syracuse transfer and redshirt JR Kaleb Joseph at PG next to Khyri Thomas (12.5 and 5.8), who is hands down the rebounding wing and best perimeter defender in the conference, and Marcus Foster (18.3 ppg last year). Ronnie Harrell was the highest rated recruit Creighton ever landed and will be backing them up with the soon to be soph Davion Mintz, who was very good playing 20 mpg when Watson went down. Up front Tobyb Hegner is back for his 15th season it seems, and he started the two years before Patton. They have a 7-0 230 transfer eligible in December, and a pretty solid 6'9 rebounder in Kampalj. They also have threee top 100 recruits -- which is the best recruiting class in school history. One kid is 6'11 and ranked the #7 center in the class.
With Patton they would have been contending for a national championship or at least
A Final Four appearance.
Give me Bullock Cartwright and Holt over Thomas foster and the cuse bum. I'm not sure creighton improves this year. I'm positive providence does.
Providence seems to consistently fimish within a zone...never as good as you think and never as bad. They don't have the guards to hang with the top five backcourt and they don't have the center to deal with Delgado or Spellman. I love Bullock and Holt, though. They'll bully us for sure, bit our guards will score at will again.
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
This is crazy talk. Providence and SH are definitely tournament caliber teams, but Nova, X, and Creighton are all comfortably ahead of them. I'd also squeeze Butler in there at four--although that will be a cramped grouping 4-7 with us in there as well.
No way. Creighton lost 3/5 of their starting 5. Providence returns 3 best players and Diallo is gonna break out.
Creighton will start the Syracuse transfer and redshirt JR Kaleb Joseph at PG next to Khyri Thomas (12.5 and 5.8), who is hands down the rebounding wing and best perimeter defender in the conference, and Marcus Foster (18.3 ppg last year). Ronnie Harrell was the highest rated recruit Creighton ever landed and will be backing them up with the soon to be soph Davion Mintz, who was very good playing 20 mpg when Watson went down. Up front Tobyb Hegner is back for his 15th season it seems, and he started the two years before Patton. They have a 7-0 230 transfer eligible in December, and a pretty solid 6'9 rebounder in Kampalj. They also have threee top 100 recruits -- which is the best recruiting class in school history. One kid is 6'11 and ranked the #7 center in the class.
With Patton they would have been contending for a national championship or at least
A Final Four appearance.
Give me Bullock Cartwright and Holt over Thomas foster and the cuse bum. I'm not sure creighton improves this year. I'm positive providence does.
Providence seems to consistently fimish within a zone...never as good as you think and never as bad. They don't have the guards to hang with the top five backcourt and they don't have the center to deal with Delgado or Spellman. I love Bullock and Holt, though. They'll bully us for sure, bit our guards will score at will again.
Cartwright as a senior is not gonna be a top 3-4 pg in BE?
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Delgado didn't get the combine invite, have to figure his return is imminent.
Hall already adding two non ranked bigs next to him, including Jersey bruiser Darnell Brodie.
In addition to returning Khadeen, Desi, Enzi, Sanogo and Myles Powell, they're bringing in a 4 star wing, Myles Cale and they just landed 5'10 floor general Jordan Walker.
Some will argue that Providence is the preseason favorite now that Bullock is returning, but IMO Hall should be favorite with Josh Hart, Jenkins, and Reynolds all graduating at Nova.
This is crazy talk. Providence and SH are definitely tournament caliber teams, but Nova, X, and Creighton are all comfortably ahead of them. I'd also squeeze Butler in there at four--although that will be a cramped grouping 4-7 with us in there as well.
No way. Creighton lost 3/5 of their starting 5. Providence returns 3 best players and Diallo is gonna break out.
Creighton will start the Syracuse transfer and redshirt JR Kaleb Joseph at PG next to Khyri Thomas (12.5 and 5.8), who is hands down the rebounding wing and best perimeter defender in the conference, and Marcus Foster (18.3 ppg last year). Ronnie Harrell was the highest rated recruit Creighton ever landed and will be backing them up with the soon to be soph Davion Mintz, who was very good playing 20 mpg when Watson went down. Up front Tobyb Hegner is back for his 15th season it seems, and he started the two years before Patton. They have a 7-0 230 transfer eligible in December, and a pretty solid 6'9 rebounder in Kampalj. They also have threee top 100 recruits -- which is the best recruiting class in school history. One kid is 6'11 and ranked the #7 center in the class.
With Patton they would have been contending for a national championship or at least
A Final Four appearance.
Give me Bullock Cartwright and Holt over Thomas foster and the cuse bum. I'm not sure creighton improves this year. I'm positive providence does.
Providence seems to consistently fimish within a zone...never as good as you think and never as bad. They don't have the guards to hang with the top five backcourt and they don't have the center to deal with Delgado or Spellman. I love Bullock and Holt, though. They'll bully us for sure, bit our guards will score at will again.
Cartwright as a senior is not gonna be a top 3-4 pg in BE?
Disagree about providence guards. Cartwright is very very solid. He can score and pass, he will be on an all conference team. They also have the freshman I think his last name is Langford who is a top 40 recruit and Lindsay who is one of the best 3pt shooters in the conference.
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Trey Dickerson just commited to the Hoyas - per Rothstein
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Trey Dickerson just commited to the Hoyas - per Rothstein
Meh. This is also probably helps as Tre' Campbell could miss some time this season with a possible meniscus tear. If the Hoyas land Mark Alstork (who still has visits set up to Illinois, South Carolina, LSU, and Louisville) and receive a recommitment from Tremont Waters (although, I'm wondering if that ship has sailed), then they could be competitive in '17-'18.
Word is Waters' camp is demanding an X-amount of burn and could potentially be a pain. I also sense they've overplayed their hand by awaiting for a Duke, Kentucky, or Kansas to re-recruit him. UConn could end up landing him by default.
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Sometimes senior laden teams go south as players become selfish playing for contracts. Just saying.
Who besides us?
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Tenn Prep Academy @tennprepacademy
7'3 (C) Chris Sodom @sodomyannick Commits to @GeorgetownHoyas #TennesseePrep #TPA @VerbalCommits The Best is yet to come!
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Tenn Prep Academy @tennprepacademy
7'3 (C) Chris Sodom @sodomyannick Commits to @GeorgetownHoyas #TennesseePrep #TPA @VerbalCommits The Best is yet to come!
I think this kid is a good pickup. He could turn out "ok" in the long run for the Hoyas.
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Manny Suarez a 6'10 transfer from Adelphi on LI & former Fordham player committed to Creighton, plays immediately.
Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
Northern Illinois graduate transfer Marin Maric is headed to DePaul, source told ESPN. 6-foot-11. 14.4 PPG, 8.4 RPG. First by @ebosshoops. Also a grad transfer.
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Keep them coming. We're going to look like a CYO team .
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Keep them coming. We're going to look like a CYO team .
That is if they pick us. Grad degree from St.John's not so appealing it appears.
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
I get your point, but Suarez is not a player worth bringing here for multiple reasons.
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
I get your point, but Suarez is not a player worth bringing here for multiple reasons.
You see where I'm going with this. Also why wouldn't Suarez be worth bringing here yet good enough for Creighton?
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
Staff is looking for 7 footers at Citifield
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
I get your point, but Suarez is not a player worth bringing here for multiple reasons.
You see where I'm going with this. Also why wouldn't Suarez be worth bringing here yet good enough for Creighton?
Creighton is rolling the dice.
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
I get your point, but Suarez is not a player worth bringing here for multiple reasons.
You see where I'm going with this. Also why wouldn't Suarez be worth bringing here yet good enough for Creighton?
Creighton is rolling the dice.
Those rolls of the die have worked out pretty well for them. Maybe we should get in on the action.
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
Staff is looking for 7 footers at Citifield
Good to know they're at least recruiting the 5 boros.
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Mark Alstork
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@GeorgetownHoyas Here I Come! Thankful for the Opportunity To Be There. @CasualHoya Let's Get It 🤘🏽🤘🏽. Wya #HoyaNation #CoachPatEwing. 😊🙏🏽
Ewing picking up bodies at a quick pace. Alstork averaged 19ppg at Wright State last year, grad transfer 6'5 immediately eligible. Filler for Peak and Pryor.
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Ewing picking up bodies at a quick pace. Alstork averaged 19ppg at Wright State last year, grad transfer 6'5 immediately eligible. Filler for Peak and Pryor.
Casual Hoya @CasualHoya
Mark Alstork has NOT committed to Georgetown, despite the desires of the trigger happy Hoyas fans on twitter. He is on his way for a visit
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Ewing picking up bodies at a quick pace. Alstork averaged 19ppg at Wright State last year, grad transfer 6'5 immediately eligible. Filler for Peak and Pryor.
Casual Hoya @CasualHoya
Mark Alstork has NOT committed to Georgetown, despite the desires of the trigger happy Hoyas fans on twitter. He is on his way for a visit
Supposedly, Pitt is the frontrunner for Alstork, but that could change after his visit to Georgetown or his other remaining visits.
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
I get your point, but Suarez is not a player worth bringing here for multiple reasons.
You see where I'm going with this. Also why wouldn't Suarez be worth bringing here yet good enough for Creighton?
Creighton is rolling the dice.
Those rolls of the die have worked out pretty well for them. Maybe we should get in on the action.
On this one, I'm told not worth it
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
I get your point, but Suarez is not a player worth bringing here for multiple reasons.
You see where I'm going with this. Also why wouldn't Suarez be worth bringing here yet good enough for Creighton?
Creighton is rolling the dice.
Those rolls of the die have worked out pretty well for them. Maybe we should get in on the action.
On this one, I'm told not worth it
Not worth it? Probably because the kid wants to play in the tournament
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
I get your point, but Suarez is not a player worth bringing here for multiple reasons.
You see where I'm going with this. Also why wouldn't Suarez be worth bringing here yet good enough for Creighton?
Creighton is rolling the dice.
Those rolls of the die have worked out pretty well for them. Maybe we should get in on the action.
On this one, I'm told not worth it
Not worth it? Probably because the kid wants to play in the tournament
Yawn.
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A not highly thought of 6'10 prospect plays on LI, in the Bronx and ends up at Creighton? Also originally from North Jersey.
Perfect example of scouring the area for all available prospects. Creighton's recruiting staff is on their game. Where's SJU's staff? It's not all about the 4 and 5 stars.
I get your point, but Suarez is not a player worth bringing here for multiple reasons.
You see where I'm going with this. Also why wouldn't Suarez be worth bringing here yet good enough for Creighton?
Creighton is rolling the dice.
Those rolls of the die have worked out pretty well for them. Maybe we should get in on the action.
On this one, I'm told not worth it
Not worth it? Probably because the kid wants to play in the tournament
Yawn.
Exactly
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I know a few people with connections to Adelphi and when I said this they were shocked. They didn't see him as a D1 player let alone at creighton for what that's worth.
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Jon Rothstein
2019 PG Tyger Campbell has committed to DePaul and will reclassify to 2018, per his Twitter page. Top 25 player.
Evan Daniels
Dave Leitao's hire of Shane Heirman is paying off already. First Tyger Campbell. Strongly in mix for 5-star wing Brian Bowen too.
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A possible DePaul resurgence just in time for their new arena in downtown Chicago
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Jon Rothstein
2019 PG Tyger Campbell has committed to DePaul and will reclassify to 2018, per his Twitter page. Top 25 player.
Evan Daniels
Dave Leitao's hire of Shane Heirman is paying off already. First Tyger Campbell. Strongly in mix for 5-star wing Brian Bowen too.
Hire Rice and bring in Antoine and Lewis. I'm kidding, kind of.....
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A possible DePaul resurgence just in time for their new arena in downtown Chicago
A week ago, I told a respective poster the same thing. This is an extremely important time for DePaul, as Leitao is approaching his third season at the helm. Leitao is attempting to save his job and bring some much needed momentum with the opening of DePaul's new arena.
So, he goes out and hires La Lumiere's head man, and he'll probably land MeanStreets' head guy shortly. Brian Bowen could be DePaul's next commitment (2017 class player).
I'm not sure if this will have any long term ripples for DePaul, as they still have to win ball games. But, I'm sure Leitao hopes this can quickly bring momentum and he ride the waves for the duration once things possibly get going. We'll see.
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Jon Rothstein
2019 PG Tyger Campbell has committed to DePaul and will reclassify to 2018, per his Twitter page. Top 25 player.
Evan Daniels
Dave Leitao's hire of Shane Heirman is paying off already. First Tyger Campbell. Strongly in mix for 5-star wing Brian Bowen too.
Hire Rice and bring in Antoine and Lewis. I'm kidding, kind of.....
Sure, you're "kind of" kidding. LOL
Actually, you hire him because he has the necessary credentials. If he brings in a couple of kids from his AAU team, then that's the cherry on top.
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Bowen and Campbell won a National HS title together this year.
Bowen would compliment rising star Eli Cain very well next year. The grad transfer they nabbed today is not too shabby as well.
A recent write up on the demanding pressures up against DePaul to create momentum ahead of next season is linked below. Young alumni season ticket package in Year1 at the Wintrust Arena is $170! I can't wait to get out to this place and have been following its construction from the get go. Hosting 2019 NCAA's, going to be a real gem.
http://arenadigest.com/2017/05/01/the-selling-of-wintrust-arena/
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Manny Suarez a 6'10 transfer from Adelphi on LI & former Fordham player committed to Creighton, plays immediately.
Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
Northern Illinois graduate transfer Marin Maric is headed to DePaul, source told ESPN. 6-foot-11. 14.4 PPG, 8.4 RPG. First by @ebosshoops. Also a grad transfer.
Just what we needed. Big pickup by DePaul.
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Jon Rothstein
2019 PG Tyger Campbell has committed to DePaul and will reclassify to 2018, per his Twitter page. Top 25 player.
Evan Daniels
Dave Leitao's hire of Shane Heirman is paying off already. First Tyger Campbell. Strongly in mix for 5-star wing Brian Bowen too.
Hire Rice and bring in Antoine and Lewis. I'm kidding, kind of.....
Sure, you're "kind of" kidding. LOL
Actually, you hire him because he has the necessary credentials. If he brings in a couple of kids from his AAU team, then that's the cherry on top.
Yea I was kidding about him bringing in those studs. I have no expectations that hiring him would land us those two guys.
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WSOU Sports @WSOUSports
According to Draft Express, @SetonHallMBB not expecting Angel Delgado to return for senior season #shbb
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WSOU Sports @WSOUSports
According to Draft Express, @SetonHallMBB not expecting Angel Delgado to return for senior season #shbb
I was told this a month ago that regardless of where he is projected he wasn't coming back. Kid comes from a very tough environment and needs money.
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WSOU Sports @WSOUSports
According to Draft Express, @SetonHallMBB not expecting Angel Delgado to return for senior season #shbb
Marillac moment.... :)
There's a good chance Delgado may not return. I definitely believe Carrington returns.
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=7320.msg273031#msg273031
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Big for Xavier!
Trevon Bluiett is returning to Xavier next season, per a source. Entered 2017 NBA Draft without an agent. HUGE Big East news.
Per Rothstein
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My Big East prediction as of today: Nova, Seton Hall, Xavier, Providence, Creighton, St. John's, Butler, Marquette, DePaul, Georgetown.
Per Zach B
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How can anyone pick SH over Nova and Xavier? Crazy .
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Take a virtual tour of Depaul's new arena opening next season linked below:
http://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/depaul_university/mens_basketball/#/map;91_38/
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Take a virtual tour of Depaul's new arena opening next season linked below:
http://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/depaul_university/mens_basketball/#/map;91_38/
Looks good. Perfect size
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Take a virtual tour of Depaul's new arena opening next season linked below:
http://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/depaul_university/mens_basketball/#/map;91_38/
If DePaul can do it, why can't we? Hoping Goff, Gempeshaw and Mullin can get it done.
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Take a virtual tour of Depaul's new arena opening next season linked below:
http://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/depaul_university/mens_basketball/#/map;91_38/
If DePaul can do it, why can't we? Hoping Goff, Gempeshaw and Mullin can get it done.
We have this thing called MSG for starters. Doesn't pay to build up something when you play games there, provides allure to recruits and costs a pretty penny
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My timing for this house sale, well 😳. But we are moving to NKY. Love Xavier! Now, about that house we have to sell... any takers?
Mack is a Muskie lifer and the hidden gem of the conference.
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Sounds like Big East will lose a coach after all. tOSU closing in on McDermott
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And still a huge draw for recruits. Will always be.
Personally I like playing certain games at CA. Yes, the amenities and seating need improvement, but that place can be a hornets nest against some of the BE teams. Both the Butler and Creighton games were fun atmospheres.
Take a virtual tour of Depaul's new arena opening next season linked below:
http://www.seats3d.com/ncaa/depaul_university/mens_basketball/#/map;91_38/
If DePaul can do it, why can't we? Hoping Goff, Gempeshaw and Mullin can get it done.
We have this thing called MSG for starters. Doesn't pay to build up something when you play games there, provides allure to recruits and costs a pretty penny
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Msg Barclays and new coliseum
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McDermott turns down Ohio St.
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I love it how Big East coaches rejecting the Ohio state job left and right. Ohio State sent a message when they fired a coach with nearly an 80% winning percentage for underperforming.😂👍🏻
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McDermott turns down Ohio St.
how much money does mcdermott get out of that? at least 1mil extra per year i would assume
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Man he makes $1.2 million/year. That is peanuts. Wow some of these BE schools really need to kick it up.
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2017/06/09/chris-holtmann-talks-become-ohio-states-new-coach/383221001/
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Man he makes $1.2 million/year. That is peanuts. Wow some of these BE schools really need to kick it up.
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2017/06/09/chris-holtmann-talks-become-ohio-states-new-coach/383221001/
Hard to blame him for leaving when you can triple your salary. It might be past that point but you would hope Butler would be capable of paying their coach more then that.
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Will any of the Butler kids transfer?
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Crean and Gottfried immediately come to mind if they don't hire internally.
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Crazy hire. He was only head coach at Butler for two full years with a loaded roster. He held his own for sure, but everyone does at Butler.
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Will any of the Butler kids transfer?
Their probably all waiting to see who the next coach is. Doubt any of them are following this coach to OSU, may not be allowed to.
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Will any of the Butler kids transfer?
That's not the Butler way.
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Crazy hire. He was only head coach at Butler for two full years with a loaded roster. He held his own for sure, but everyone does at Butler.
I give Ohio State credit from taking a chance on a coach from a lower ranked conference.
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Crazy hire. He was only head coach at Butler for two full years with a loaded roster. He held his own for sure, but everyone does at Butler.
I give Ohio State credit from taking a chance on a coach from a lower ranked conference.
Arizona hired Sean Miller from Xavier, then in the A-10.
UCLA hired Steve Alford from New Mexico.
Indiana hired Archie Miller from Dayton, of the A-10.
You could argue that the Holtmann hire by OSU was bigger than those 3.
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Also the fact that our conference has been rated better than theirs for the last 3 years
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Crazy hire. He was only head coach at Butler for two full years with a loaded roster. He held his own for sure, but everyone does at Butler.
I give Ohio State credit from taking a chance on a coach from a lower ranked conference.
Troll.
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Crazy hire. He was only head coach at Butler for two full years with a loaded roster. He held his own for sure, but everyone does at Butler.
I give Ohio State credit from taking a chance on a coach from a lower ranked conference.
Arizona hired Sean Miller from Xavier, then in the A-10.
UCLA hired Steve Alford from New Mexico.
Indiana hired Archie Miller from Dayton, of the A-10.
You could argue that the Holtmann hire by OSU was bigger than those 3.
Not arguing. A coach w 2 years of experience from a smaller conference is a risk. It worked out for them the last time they did it. Point being, the new BE will be a farm system for coaches in conferences like the Big Ten and the ACC.
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Also the fact that our conference has been rated better than theirs for the last 3 years
I don't know what our vs theirs means but the Big 10 as a whole is better conference. I get the RPI rating but again a lot if that has to do with large conferences being hurt by having 3-4 weak teams and in the case of the Big 10 having a traditional power like OSU struggling the last couple of years along with IU missing the Tourney as well has hurt them. But no one believes that will last long.
The fact is the Big 10 being down or not the only job in the BE that is remotely comparable to OSU is Villanova because of their recent success but when you factor in resources it isn't even close. And in basketball OSU is probably the 4th best BIG 10 job after IU, MSU and Wisconsin right now.
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Rob Anderson @_robanderson
Creighton center Justin Patton has earned a Green Room invite for the NBA Draft, per @DraftExpress. They project him 17th to the Bucks.
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Mike Hopkins @pcbb1917
Providence lands Top-50 guard AJ Reeves to kick off 2018 recruiting #pcbb #gofriars (link: https://pcbb1917.com/2017/06/25/aj-reeves-2018-commits-providence-friars-ed-cooley-brian-blaney-mass-rivals/) pcbb1917.com/2017/06/25/aj-…
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
Hall due to their size and depth up front. They are a bad matchup for Providence head to head. Both are locks for the tournament. There won't be much separating the top 7-8 teams.
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
Hall due to their size and depth up front. They are a bad matchup for Providence head to head. Both are locks for the tournament. There won't be much separating the top 7-8 teams.
Agreed that Delgado's presence will reign supreme, to note however is that Cooley does have some frontcourt size coming in with Dajour Dickens. Regardless I expect Providence to be elite next year.
http://www.espn.com/colleges/basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2507/class/2017
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The league is gonna be very strong this year. Lots of talented teams and plenty with experience. Nova finally has their punishing big man in Spellman to go along with the rest of the significant talent they once again have. Big Eat keeps getting stronger, and the league's recruiting gets stronger every year. Butler suffered a setback, but I get the feeling they will get back on track.
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The league is gonna be very strong this year. Lots of talented teams and plenty with experience. Nova finally has their punishing big man in Spellman to go along with the rest of the significant talent they once again have. Big Eat keeps getting stronger, and the league's recruiting gets stronger every year. Butler suffered a setback, but I get the feeling they will get back on track.
Coincidentally Roth lead off his Summer long previews with the Big East this morning, I'll post the accompanying podcast later on tonight if no one else has.
GREAT read-
https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothstein-files-big-east-offseason-notebook/amp/
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
Hall due to their size and depth up front. They are a bad matchup for Providence head to head. Both are locks for the tournament. There won't be much separating the top 7-8 teams.
I think for that exact reason it is hard to call anyone other than Nova and X a lock. I agree the Hall and PC should definitely be tournament teams but with how good the league will be and how crazy the non conference can be if either team starts very slow they won't be able to pad their win totals in conference play. This years league play might be the best we have had since the re configuration.
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
Hall due to their size and depth up front. They are a bad matchup for Providence head to head. Both are locks for the tournament. There won't be much separating the top 7-8 teams.
I think for that exact reason it is hard to call anyone other than Nova and X a lock. I agree the Hall and PC should definitely be tournament teams but with how good the league will be and how crazy the non conference can be if either team starts very slow they won't be able to pad their win totals in conference play. This years league play might be the best we have had since the re configuration.
I think league will get at least 6 bids. Nova, Xavier, Hall, PC, SJU and either Butler or Creighton. Butler has talent and some good recruits. They already lost at least one to Ohio state and are in a coaching transition. It's a wait-and-see, but they have plenty of talent. Creighton doesn't have much up front, and they were bolstered in a BIG way with Justin Patton last year. Just not sure they have enough this season with how tough the league is overall. I know we are also in that group with butler and Creighton, but I think this year we have what it takes. Gotta defend...
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
Hall due to their size and depth up front. They are a bad matchup for Providence head to head. Both are locks for the tournament. There won't be much separating the top 7-8 teams.
I think for that exact reason it is hard to call anyone other than Nova and X a lock. I agree the Hall and PC should definitely be tournament teams but with how good the league will be and how crazy the non conference can be if either team starts very slow they won't be able to pad their win totals in conference play. This years league play might be the best we have had since the re configuration.
I think league will get at least 6 bids. Nova, Xavier, Hall, PC, SJU and either Butler or Creighton. Butler has talent and some good recruits. They already lost at least one to Ohio state and are in a coaching transition. It's a wait-and-see, but they have plenty of talent. Creighton doesn't have much up front, and they were bolstered in a BIG way with Justin Patton last year. Just not sure they have enough this season with how tough the league is overall. I know we are also in that group with butler and Creighton, but I think this year we have what it takes. Gotta defend...
Creighton is a lock. Great coach. More talent than he's ever had. Two all-conference guards plus the Syracuse transfer and two very good recruits. Senior center that started two years.
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
Hall due to their size and depth up front. They are a bad matchup for Providence head to head. Both are locks for the tournament. There won't be much separating the top 7-8 teams.
I think for that exact reason it is hard to call anyone other than Nova and X a lock. I agree the Hall and PC should definitely be tournament teams but with how good the league will be and how crazy the non conference can be if either team starts very slow they won't be able to pad their win totals in conference play. This years league play might be the best we have had since the re configuration.
I think league will get at least 6 bids. Nova, Xavier, Hall, PC, SJU and either Butler or Creighton. Butler has talent and some good recruits. They already lost at least one to Ohio state and are in a coaching transition. It's a wait-and-see, but they have plenty of talent. Creighton doesn't have much up front, and they were bolstered in a BIG way with Justin Patton last year. Just not sure they have enough this season with how tough the league is overall. I know we are also in that group with butler and Creighton, but I think this year we have what it takes. Gotta defend...
Creighton is a lock. Great coach. More talent than he's ever had. Two all-conference guards plus the Syracuse transfer and two very good recruits. Senior center that started two years.
So you're saying it's us or Butler?😉 I'll take us...
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
Hall due to their size and depth up front. They are a bad matchup for Providence head to head. Both are locks for the tournament. There won't be much separating the top 7-8 teams.
I think for that exact reason it is hard to call anyone other than Nova and X a lock. I agree the Hall and PC should definitely be tournament teams but with how good the league will be and how crazy the non conference can be if either team starts very slow they won't be able to pad their win totals in conference play. This years league play might be the best we have had since the re configuration.
I think league will get at least 6 bids. Nova, Xavier, Hall, PC, SJU and either Butler or Creighton. Butler has talent and some good recruits. They already lost at least one to Ohio state and are in a coaching transition. It's a wait-and-see, but they have plenty of talent. Creighton doesn't have much up front, and they were bolstered in a BIG way with Justin Patton last year. Just not sure they have enough this season with how tough the league is overall. I know we are also in that group with butler and Creighton, but I think this year we have what it takes. Gotta defend...
Creighton is a lock. Great coach. More talent than he's ever had. Two all-conference guards plus the Syracuse transfer and two very good recruits. Senior center that started two years.
So you're saying it's us or Butler?😉 I'll take us...
If we carry our weight and this new Butler coach is good, we could get 8 teams in. I know that sounds crazy. I think 6 for sure and probably 7.
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Cooley has guided Providence to four consecutive 20 win seasons, making the NCAA Tourney each year. Next year is going to bring high expectations with four seniors starting. Their roster is stacked. A senior BE POY candidate next year in Bullock, couple in seniors Cartwright, Lindsey and Holt along with a very talented sophomore in Alpha Diallo. Incoming 4 star PG Langford as well. I felt that our best win last season was @Providence, they're the most underrated team heading into next season IMO.
They are going to be really good, but I feel like a team with 2-3 strong guards can give them big problems. They can't stop the ball on defense. I love that that 6-6 to 6-8 group of players they have led by Bullock and Holt. I think Clark will go a long way for us in those battles. A 225-230 lb Owens could put us over the top of them, but we never see gains like that under our strength and conditioning staff.
Who's the better senior laden team next year, Hall or Providence?
Hall due to their size and depth up front. They are a bad matchup for Providence head to head. Both are locks for the tournament. There won't be much separating the top 7-8 teams.
I think for that exact reason it is hard to call anyone other than Nova and X a lock. I agree the Hall and PC should definitely be tournament teams but with how good the league will be and how crazy the non conference can be if either team starts very slow they won't be able to pad their win totals in conference play. This years league play might be the best we have had since the re configuration.
I think league will get at least 6 bids. Nova, Xavier, Hall, PC, SJU and either Butler or Creighton. Butler has talent and some good recruits. They already lost at least one to Ohio state and are in a coaching transition. It's a wait-and-see, but they have plenty of talent. Creighton doesn't have much up front, and they were bolstered in a BIG way with Justin Patton last year. Just not sure they have enough this season with how tough the league is overall. I know we are also in that group with butler and Creighton, but I think this year we have what it takes. Gotta defend...
Creighton is a lock. Great coach. More talent than he's ever had. Two all-conference guards plus the Syracuse transfer and two very good recruits. Senior center that started two years.
So you're saying it's us or Butler?😉 I'll take us...
If we carry our weight and this new Butler coach is good, we could get 8 teams in. I know that sounds crazy. I think 6 for sure and probably 7.
You of all people saying something crazy? Get out 😜
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https://twitter.com/PCFriarsmbb/status/889564545026535424
Cooley's roster is the best kept secret in the conference IMO.
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Strengthening the mini union, I like it-
http://www.bigeast.com/news/2017/7/27/mens-basketball-four-conferences-join-big-east-acc-basketball-officiating-alliance.aspx
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https://twitter.com/PCFriarsmbb/status/889564545026535424
Cooley's roster is the best kept secret in the conference IMO.
I agree. A big reason why is because they spend a lot less time bragging than we do.
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https://twitter.com/PCFriarsmbb/status/889564545026535424
Cooley's roster is the best kept secret in the conference IMO.
I agree. A big reason why is because they spend a lot less time bragging than we do.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/xT9DPJVjlYHwWsZRxm/giphy.gif)
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https://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2017/8/1/16078718/pk80-invitational-depaul-georgetown
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Interesting...
whether ESPN canned them or GT backed out...
Mullin & team showed at Maui Invitational in his year 1 as coach...
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Interesting...
whether ESPN canned them or GT backed out...
Mullin & team showed at Maui Invitational in his year 1 as coach...
Spin of the year turning that situation to shedding a positive light on St. John's. ???
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Interesting...
whether ESPN canned them or GT backed out...
Mullin & team showed at Maui Invitational in his year 1 as coach...
Rumors surfacing that the Hoyas backed out.
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Hoya season preview linked below:
https://alwaysmarch.wordpress.com/2017/08/09/100-teams-in-100-days-georgetown-hoyas/
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Strengthening the mini union, I like it-
http://www.bigeast.com/news/2017/7/27/mens-basketball-four-conferences-join-big-east-acc-basketball-officiating-alliance.aspx
This link got me to spend some time checking the Big East conference numbers. Here's what I found :
We finished last in :
Scoring defense
Rebounding defense
Rebounding margin
Defensive rebounding percentage.
We finished next to last in :
Scoring margin
Field goal percentage
Field goal percentage - defensive
3 point field goal percentage - defense
Rebounding
Assists
Assist to T/O ratio
Defensive rebounding
Offensive rebounding percentage
After looking at these numbers you realize that either coach did a lousy job coaching this team or a great job coaching this crew of ragamuffins to 7 Big East wins. Amazing .
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Strengthening the mini union, I like it-
http://www.bigeast.com/news/2017/7/27/mens-basketball-four-conferences-join-big-east-acc-basketball-officiating-alliance.aspx
This link got me to spend some time checking the Big East conference numbers. Here's what I found :
We finished last in :
Scoring defense
Rebounding defense
Rebounding margin
Defensive rebounding percentage.
We finished next to last in :
Scoring margin
Field goal percentage
Field goal percentage - defensive
3 point field goal percentage - defense
Rebounding
Assists
Assist to T/O ratio
Defensive rebounding
Offensive rebounding percentage
After looking at these numbers you realize that either coach did a lousy job coaching this team or a great job coaching this crew of ragamuffins to 7 Big East wins. Amazing .
. It would be helpful to show some of our positive margins as well to get a full picture.
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Strengthening the mini union, I like it-
http://www.bigeast.com/news/2017/7/27/mens-basketball-four-conferences-join-big-east-acc-basketball-officiating-alliance.aspx
This link got me to spend some time checking the Big East conference numbers. Here's what I found :
We finished last in :
Scoring defense
Rebounding defense
Rebounding margin
Defensive rebounding percentage.
We finished next to last in :
Scoring margin
Field goal percentage
Field goal percentage - defensive
3 point field goal percentage - defense
Rebounding
Assists
Assist to T/O ratio
Defensive rebounding
Offensive rebounding percentage
After looking at these numbers you realize that either coach did a lousy job coaching this team or a great job coaching this crew of ragamuffins to 7 Big East wins. Amazing .
. It would be helpful to show some of our positive margins as well to get a full picture.
If these numbers are correct, we were awful playing offense,, rebounding, and playing defense. Are their numbers that show different?
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Strengthening the mini union, I like it-
http://www.bigeast.com/news/2017/7/27/mens-basketball-four-conferences-join-big-east-acc-basketball-officiating-alliance.aspx
This link got me to spend some time checking the Big East conference numbers. Here's what I found :
We finished last in :
Scoring defense
Rebounding defense
Rebounding margin
Defensive rebounding percentage.
We finished next to last in :
Scoring margin
Field goal percentage
Field goal percentage - defensive
3 point field goal percentage - defense
Rebounding
Assists
Assist to T/O ratio
Defensive rebounding
Offensive rebounding percentage
After looking at these numbers you realize that either coach did a lousy job coaching this team or a great job coaching this crew of ragamuffins to 7 Big East wins. Amazing .
. It would be helpful to show some of our positive margins as well to get a full picture.
If these numbers are correct, we were awful playing offense,, rebounding, and playing defense. Are their numbers that show different?
Not much left but lead by Owens I think we finished first in the league in player dance routines.
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http://nypost.com/2017/08/31/seton-hall-begins-next-years-reload-with-syracuse-transfer/
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Eli Hershkovich @EliHershkovich Oct 9
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Leitao on Max Strus: "He's as good of a player as I've ever been with in the gym in 30 years." #dpubb
Strus is a superstar D2 transfer who will be playing at DePaul for the next two seasons, what a statement. Richard Hamilton, Wilson Chandler among those coached by Leitao.
Jon RothsteinVerified account @JonRothstein 2h2 hours ago
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Impressed with what I've seen from D2 transfer Max Strus. Trying to be DePaul's version of Derrick White. Has All-Big East potential.
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http://www.woonsocketcall.com/sports/friars-remain-optimistic-about-holt-pc-target-duke-could-announce/article_ce848092-ae2f-11e7-b5ed-2bc9600e0793.html
Didn't know about Holt's injury, which would really cripple the start of the Friars potentially special season.
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An upgraded Pavilion should make for an attractive venue in years to come. Having gone there throughout college that building was not up to the standards that Nova wants to project.
http://www1.villanova.edu/villanova/media/pressreleases/2017/1012.html
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Eli Hershkovich @EliHershkovich Oct 9
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Leitao on Max Strus: "He's as good of a player as I've ever been with in the gym in 30 years." #dpubb
Strus is a superstar D2 transfer who will be playing at DePaul for the next two seasons, what a statement. Richard Hamilton, Wilson Chandler among those coached by Leitao.
Jon RothsteinVerified account @JonRothstein 2h2 hours ago
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Impressed with what I've seen from D2 transfer Max Strus. Trying to be DePaul's version of Derrick White. Has All-Big East potential.
Great job recruiting this kid by the DePaul staff. Sounds like he's the real deal. These are the kind of diamonds SJU needs to be mining.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/10/13/david-duke-providence/
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Cooley killing it on recruiting trail, out there all the time.
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Key notes on Emmit Holt's possible medical redshirt listed, could really derail the Friars momentum:
http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20171018/providences-cartwright-were-out-to-win-big-east
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/10/24/anthony-nelson-seton-hall/
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/10/24/anthony-nelson-seton-hall/
Damn. Good for the hall
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"I picked Seton Hall because I wanted to be close to home and I felt like it was a good situation for me,” he told ZAGSBLOG.”
>:( >:(
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Good thing the staff is building that impenetrable fence around the city especially the CHSAA schools.
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Per Rothstein
Seton Hall beats BC by 15. 14 rebounds for Angel Delgado. Eagles guard Ky Bowman led all scorers with 29 points. 3-pt game at half. #shbb
Per Goodman
Seton Hall 86, BC 71. Desi Rodriguez with 18, Angel Delgado with 7 and 14 boards. Ky Bowman with 29, Deontae Hawkins 14 points for BC.
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PC Friars lose to Carlton in exhibition, 77-67, very good Canadian program.
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Jared Rhoden, the 6-foot-6, 205-pound shooting guard from Our Saviour Lutheran (NY) School and the NY Lightning, committed to Seton Hall on Saturday evening, he told ZAGSBLOG.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/10/28/jared-rhoden-seton-hall/
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If SJU cant pass the Hall in the recruiting battle there will be big problems.....other than getting Ponds we are being hammered locally.....I thought with the hiring of Mullin and Richmond we would dominate locally by now
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If SJU cant pass the Hall in the recruiting battle there will be big problems.....other than getting Ponds we are being hammered locally.....I thought with the hiring of Mullin and Richmond we would dominate locally by now
We're not ready to pass Hall yet locally. SH has back to back tourney appearances and also won a BE champ in 2016.
In the meantime, I'm OK with a steady flow of 3 to 5 star transfers and some non-local 3-4 star HS recruits. Recruiting locally only works if the kids we want, actually want to stay local. The country is big and we should not limit ourselves to a few kids within a 30 min drive.
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If SJU cant pass the Hall in the recruiting battle there will be big problems.....other than getting Ponds we are being hammered locally.....I thought with the hiring of Mullin and Richmond we would dominate locally by now
We're not ready to pass Hall yet locally. SH has back to back tourney appearances and also won a BE champ in 2016.
In the meantime, I'm OK with a steady flow of 3 to 5 star transfers and some non-local 3-4 star HS recruits. Recruiting locally only works if the kids we want, actually want to stay local. The country is big and we should not limit ourselves to a few kids within a 30 min drive.
We have not excelled in any region since this staff over. The only thing I see is that the transfer game may help compensate for that. What is disturbing is that that right around the time Sid Wilson ran away like a 10 year old girl, Luther Muhammad went from STJ lean to wanting nothing to do with us. We don't want alienate local talent, but if this staff can't land more than one local recruit in 4 years of this, they need a different plan, and the transfer market seems like it's the plan.
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Doesn't change the score much, but don't forget, besides Ponds, Boubacar Diakite is local out of HS too.
Also it's been 2.5 years, not 4. and hard to count that recruiting period of April 2015-Sept 2015 as it was playing totally from behind.
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Another point on this; the two kids the Hall landed weren't exactly highly sought after recruits. The Hall only went after them hard recently because they struck out on a bunch of kids from Jersey and elsewhere that they targeted.
Nelson is the bigger recruit, and from what I've read I would have been happy if we landed him, but this isn't someone coming into NYC and landing a kid of Ponds stature. The staff recruited Nelson to some degree, but perhaps there wasn't mutual interest because we have 5 underclassmen at the guard position already in the fold and were/are heavily recruiting both Luther and Williams. Even if Lovett leaves, that may not be as ideal from Nelson's standpoint as a situation like the Hall, in which you have no comp next year at the PG slot except for a current freshman (in Walker) with Carrington's departure.
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Another point on this; the two kids the Hall landed weren't exactly highly sought after recruits. The Hall only went after them hard recently because they struck out on a bunch of kids from Jersey and elsewhere that they targeted.
Nelson is the bigger recruit, and from what I've read I would have been happy if we landed him, but this isn't someone coming into NYC and landing a kid of Ponds stature. The staff recruited Nelson to some degree, but perhaps there wasn't mutual interest because we have 5 underclassmen at the guard position already in the fold and were/are heavily recruiting both Luther and Williams. Even if Lovett leaves, that may not be as ideal from Nelson's standpoint as a situation like the Hall, in which you have no comp next year at the PG slot except for a current freshman (in Walker) with Carrington's departure.
+1
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Doesn't change the score much, but don't forget, besides Ponds, Boubacar Diakite is local out of HS too.
Also it's been 2.5 years, not 4. and hard to count that recruiting period of April 2015-Sept 2015 as it was playing totally from behind.
And Yakwe came from Our Savior. PS--while a transfer--Bash is from the Bronx.
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Exactly. We always have this debate. Right now there are 4 NYC kids, three of whom are among our top 7 players. And we had Wilson in the fold until everything transpired, a local 4 star.
If I'm choosing between a out-of-state kid like Simon or a three-star NY player, I'm taking Simon every day.
I want us to land local kids. We need to land SOME local kids. But it needs to be the right fit. I don't think the staff is neglecting NY, as the last one seemed to do all too often.
If you are deciding between two comparable players, one that is local and one that is outside NY, I'd probably prefer the local kid because I think he'd be less likely to transfer. But even then, as we saw with Sid Wilson and have seen with many others, there is a risk in kids deciding after-the-fact that they want to be away from NY, just as there is an allure for kids from outside NY to play in NYC (if Lavin proved anything, it was that).
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Lest we forget, Louie had a lot of transfers and did well with them...
Reggie Carter, Walter Berry, Matt Brust, Boo Harvey. Later we had Bootsy and Marcus Hatten. City kids want to get away from the City. There are other kids who would want to play in the City and the Big East. We just have to find those kids. So far, we have attracted Clark, Simon, Mikey Dixon and the big man from South Carolina.
To be honest, we really shouldn't count the first year, the Durand Johnson/Ron M'voika squad. That had to be assembled in like 90 days or so. Gabe Kaplan in "Fastbreak" type scenario.
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If SJU cant pass the Hall in the recruiting battle there will be big problems.....other than getting Ponds we are being hammered locally.....I thought with the hiring of Mullin and Richmond we would dominate locally by now
We're not ready to pass Hall yet locally. SH has back to back tourney appearances and also won a BE champ in 2016.
In the meantime, I'm OK with a steady flow of 3 to 5 star transfers and some non-local 3-4 star HS recruits. Recruiting locally only works if the kids we want, actually want to stay local. The country is big and we should not limit ourselves to a few kids within a 30 min drive.
I agree that we have t explore all options but local should dominate. NY and NJ are still a hotbed of talent and we need our share+. Got to start with the great kids in Jr. High and do what is legally necessary. Also, local recruiting is good for the budget. Yeah, the Hall has made the torney lately but they do not have two hall of famers on the bench and I would take QUeens over S. Orange any day.
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Another point on this; the two kids the Hall landed weren't exactly highly sought after recruits. The Hall only went after them hard recently because they struck out on a bunch of kids from Jersey and elsewhere that they targeted.
Seton Hall also got Syracuse transfer Taurean Thompson (from New York).
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I thought he was a St. Anthony's/Jersey City kid? They went after him hard during high school and he spurned them for the Cuse. I'm sure they stayed in his ear and was a very good transfer land IMO.
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I thought he was a St. Anthony's/Jersey City kid? They went after him hard during high school and he spurned them for the Cuse. I'm sure they stayed in his ear and was a very good transfer land IMO.
Harlem kid
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He never signed with Xavier, so I hope we give him a look.
Corey Evans
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2018 big man Kentrevious Jones has told Rivals that he has reopened his college recruitment; one time Xavier pledge attending Notre Dame Prep for his prep year
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Patrick Ewing Retweeted Mark Jackson
Appreciate it, @MarkJackson13! You coming when we play St John's in January? I'll have some Georgetown gear ready for you.
Perhaps Pat is our unexpected bridge to rekindling Mark Jackson's relationship with the program?
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Patrick Ewing Retweeted Mark Jackson
Appreciate it, @MarkJackson13! You coming when we play St John's in January? I'll have some Georgetown gear ready for you.
Perhaps Pat is our unexpected bridge to rekindling Mark Jackson's relationship with the program?
Forget the Georgetown gear Patrick. Starting trash can fires is illegal in NYC.
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LoVett made weekly BE Honor Roll
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Gavitt Games opener Minnesota@Providence tips later on tn in what should be a high level, evenly matched game. Two upperclassmen ridden, battle tested tourney teams clashing. Over 10k expected at the Dunk.
http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20171112/it-will-be-all-business-for-richard-pitino-in-ri-return?rssfeed=true
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
+100
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
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Cooley seems to have his teams well prepared, but his in-game coaching is very suspect.
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Cooley seems to have his teams well prepared, but his in-game coaching is very suspect.
I could be wrong, but I just sense he's gonna have the 'Marty Schottenheimer Syndrome.' He'll have his squad consistently compete, and they'll even overachieve when you think they're not up to snuff. He'll go to his share of NCAA Tournaments, but will fall flat.
Maybe, subconsciously, I too believe he's somewhat suspect when it comes to in-game coaching. Time will tell, though.
On that note, this game is over. It would've been a solid win for the conference.
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
Actually, he's only had one losing season at Minnesota (won the NIT his first season). He finally had a winning season in conference play last season (his "breakout" season) after a horrific season in 2015-2016.
Again, I don't mind growing pains, as long as I see growth and a semblance of order or a method to the madness. Our current group should finish anywhere between 5th-7th (preferably, 5th-6th). Anything lower than that should mean some form of changes somewhere.
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
They have good players and appear to be well coached. They get after it.
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
They have good players and appear to be well coached. They get after it.
Outside of Coffey and Washington, I don't believe they have anyone on their roster was rated amongst the top 100 kids out of high school (I went through their roster during the game). So, you would have to assume there's some good player development going on.
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Providence has a lot of beef in the frontline. I don't know who we have who can guard these guys.
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
Actually, he's only had one losing season at Minnesota (won the NIT his first season). He finally had a winning season in conference play last season (his "breakout" season) after a horrific season in 2015-2016.
Again, I don't mind growing pains, as long as I see growth and a semblance of order or a method to the madness. Our current group should finish anywhere between 5th-7th (preferably, 5th-6th). Anything lower than that should mean some form of changes somewhere.
Terry, I’d still love to see us hire a veteran Assistant HC who’s a bit more disciplinarian than we currently have on staff. I have no doubt that we have some excellent basketball minds. I just question whether we have the complete order and organization to get us to the next level. We are sooo missing an assistant HC who we never replaced. I’d like to see a seasoned person who has some experience and has been here before.. I think I echo what everybody wants, but the school/staff doesn’t see that apparently.
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
Actually, he's only had one losing season at Minnesota (won the NIT his first season). He finally had a winning season in conference play last season (his "breakout" season) after a horrific season in 2015-2016.
Again, I don't mind growing pains, as long as I see growth and a semblance of order or a method to the madness. Our current group should finish anywhere between 5th-7th (preferably, 5th-6th). Anything lower than that should mean some form of changes somewhere.
Terry, I’d still love to see us hire a veteran Assistant HC who’s a bit more disciplinarian than we currently have on staff. I have no doubt that we have some excellent basketball minds. I just question whether we have the complete order and organization to get us to the next level. We are sooo missing an assistant HC who we never replaced. I’d like to see a seasoned person who has some experience and has been here before.. I think I echo what everybody wants, but the school/staff doesn’t see that apparently.
+1
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
Actually, he's only had one losing season at Minnesota (won the NIT his first season). He finally had a winning season in conference play last season (his "breakout" season) after a horrific season in 2015-2016.
Again, I don't mind growing pains, as long as I see growth and a semblance of order or a method to the madness. Our current group should finish anywhere between 5th-7th (preferably, 5th-6th). Anything lower than that should mean some form of changes somewhere.
Terry, I’d still love to see us hire a veteran Assistant HC who’s a bit more disciplinarian than we currently have on staff. I have no doubt that we have some excellent basketball minds. I just question whether we have the complete order and organization to get us to the next level. We are sooo missing an assistant HC who we never replaced. I’d like to see a seasoned person who has some experience and has been here before.. I think I echo what everybody wants, but the school/staff doesn’t see that apparently.
Agree
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Xavier with back to back 100 point games out of the gate. Freshman Point Guard Paul Scruggs is the real deal, the next Big East star. This team is a force to be reckoned with, they've come back bigger, stronger and deeper. Tyrique Jones a obvious matchup for Marv. Macura spent some time in the weight room this Summer.
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Calling mjmaher....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOc0tTEUMAAqghV.jpg:large)
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LMFAO! :2funny:
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
They have good players and appear to be well coached. They get after it.
He's proving to be a fine young coach. His one year at FIU and now at Minnesota has got me sold. I would look to hire him at SJU if we decide to change coaches.
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There is no way Minnesota should be 14 and Providence should be unranked, but after watching the first half of this game and our game against New Orleans you can really tell the difference between a well coached team and us.
Murphy is a balla for the Gophers.
Scoring at will on Bullock.
Mason is an amazing guard. Bulletproof and a big guard... Minnesota has built quite a team, also took Pitino a while...
They have good players and appear to be well coached. They get after it.
He's proving to be a fine young coach. His one year at FIU and now at Minnesota has got me sold. I would look to hire him at SJU if we decide to change coaches.
Lol. And why would Little Pitino want to take a step down the coaching ladder and come here?
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He's proving to be a fine young coach. His one year at FIU and now at Minnesota has got me sold. I would look to hire him at SJU if we decide to change coaches.
Plus he comes from a good family, so he's got that going for him.
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Just remember the disaster of a season he had in 15-16, Pitino Jr that is. He was 8-23/2-16 and after 3 years had actually gotten worse each year and still had not made an NCAA Tourney in 3 years.
Just remember he was squarely on the hot seat in his 4th year, last year.
Getting Coffey and a few other players and getting healthy changed the whole dynamic of that program. It's not like he got to a be such a better coach in a year.
My larger point is the idea that everyone on this board is praising him is fine, the problem is the same people who praise him now would have tried to run him out of town with the same 3 year run at SJU....
It always amuses me to watch how patient people are with OTHER PROGRAM's but not the one's they follow.
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Just remember the disaster of a season he had in 15-16, Pitino Jr that is. He was 8-23/2-16 and after 3 years had actually gotten worse each year and still had not made an NCAA Tourney in 3 years.
Just remember he was squarely on the hot seat in his 4th year, last year.
Getting Coffey and a few other players and getting healthy changed the whole dynamic of that program. It's not like he got to a be such a better coach in a year.
My larger point is the idea that everyone on this board is praising him is fine, the problem is the same people who praise him now would have tried to run him out of town with the same 3 year run at SJU....
It always amuses me to watch how patient people are with OTHER PROGRAM's but not the one's they follow.
Thanks and well said.
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Just remember the disaster of a season he had in 15-16, Pitino Jr that is. He was 8-23/2-16 and after 3 years had actually gotten worse each year and still had not made an NCAA Tourney in 3 years.
Just remember he was squarely on the hot seat in his 4th year, last year.
Getting Coffey and a few other players and getting healthy changed the whole dynamic of that program. It's not like he got to a be such a better coach in a year.
My larger point is the idea that everyone on this board is praising him is fine, the problem is the same people who praise him now would have tried to run him out of town with the same 3 year run at SJU....
It always amuses me to watch how patient people are with OTHER PROGRAM's but not the one's they follow.
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Just remember the disaster of a season he had in 15-16, Pitino Jr that is. He was 8-23/2-16 and after 3 years had actually gotten worse each year and still had not made an NCAA Tourney in 3 years.
Just remember he was squarely on the hot seat in his 4th year, last year.
Getting Coffey and a few other players and getting healthy changed the whole dynamic of that program. It's not like he got to a be such a better coach in a year.
My larger point is the idea that everyone on this board is praising him is fine, the problem is the same people who praise him now would have tried to run him out of town with the same 3 year run at SJU....
It always amuses me to watch how patient people are with OTHER PROGRAM's but not the one's they follow.
Couldn't agree with you more.
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Just remember the disaster of a season he had in 15-16, Pitino Jr that is. He was 8-23/2-16 and after 3 years had actually gotten worse each year and still had not made an NCAA Tourney in 3 years.
Just remember he was squarely on the hot seat in his 4th year, last year.
Getting Coffey and a few other players and getting healthy changed the whole dynamic of that program. It's not like he got to a be such a better coach in a year.
My larger point is the idea that everyone on this board is praising him is fine, the problem is the same people who praise him now would have tried to run him out of town with the same 3 year run at SJU....
It always amuses me to watch how patient people are with OTHER PROGRAM's but not the one's they follow.
Couldn't agree with you more.
We have been patient for the last 5 coaching hires and where did that get us? Just sayin. If Mo gets enough talent we can win without being well coached.
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How about getting an experienced assistant coach to compliment Mullin. Good talent does better w good coaching. And Fun’s comments that Amar is following orders by hoisting 3s and not playing inside does not reflect well on Mullins coaching.
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Marquettte got thumped 86-71 at home by #19 Purdue. The Big East not looking so good against the Big Ten to start.
Marquette even got 49 pts from Rowsey and Howard on 8-17 from deep and still couldn't keep it close.
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I thought Marquette played hard and could beat us.
Howard & Rousey are great shhoters. Marquette was almost perfect from the FT line too.
Hard to stop that 7'2 300 lb Purdue center named Haas. He would tear Owens, Yakwe and Clarke apart.
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Marquettte got thumped 86-71 at home by #19 Purdue. The Big East not looking so good against the Big Ten to start.
Marquette even got 49 pts from Rowsey and Howard on 8-17 from deep and still couldn't keep it close.
No real surprise here. Purdue is a big, physical, experienced squad and one of the best teams in the B10. They could very well make it to the 2nd weekend of the tourney.
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I thought Marquette played hard and could beat us.
Howard & Rousey are great shhoters. Marquette was almost perfect from the FT line too.
Hard to stop that 7'2 300 lb Purdue center named Haas. He would tear Owens, Yakwe and Clarke apart.
Marquette teams under WoJo don't defend well
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I thought Marquette played hard and could beat us.
That's not what I saw. They played Swiss cheese defense and only had three guys who can score. Cheatham has taken a step back. They look primed to finish 7-8.
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Marquette also really struggled to run their half court offense. They were aggressively defended on the perimeter and were lucky to hit some contested threes. Howard and Rowsey can really shoot the ball, though. If they are hot, we'll lose to MU.
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I thought Marquette played hard and could beat us.
That's not what I saw. They played Swiss cheese defense and only had three guys who can score. Cheatham has taken a step back. They look primed to finish 7-8.
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I thought Marquette played hard and could beat us.
That's not what I saw. They played Swiss cheese defense and only had three guys who can score. Cheatham has taken a step back. They look primed to finish 7-8.
Our games with them will be toss ups. Both are guard oriented teams with no inside presence whatsoever. Both teams will bomb 3s and whoever makes more will win
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I thought Marquette played hard and could beat us.
That's not what I saw. They played Swiss cheese defense and only had three guys who can score. Cheatham has taken a step back. They look primed to finish 7-8.
Our games with them will be toss ups. Both are guard oriented teams with no inside presence whatsoever. Both teams will bomb 3s and whoever makes more will win
Marquette gets Harry Froling eligible in December.
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Just remember the disaster of a season he had in 15-16, Pitino Jr that is. He was 8-23/2-16 and after 3 years had actually gotten worse each year and still had not made an NCAA Tourney in 3 years.
Just remember he was squarely on the hot seat in his 4th year, last year.
Getting Coffey and a few other players and getting healthy changed the whole dynamic of that program. It's not like he got to a be such a better coach in a year.
My larger point is the idea that everyone on this board is praising him is fine, the problem is the same people who praise him now would have tried to run him out of town with the same 3 year run at SJU....
It always amuses me to watch how patient people are with OTHER PROGRAM's but not the one's they follow.
I'm a propionate of style of play when assessing coaching. He took over a bad FIU team and they did well under him in one year with a short handed roster, primarily due to the defense. I like how Minnesota plays defense and that's coaching. He has not been able to bring the talent to Minnesota yet but team is still improving. I believe he would be able to recruit better at SJU. I'm very patient and not saying i want to move on from Mullin, I didn't want to move on from Lavin, just saying...IF we move on.
PS.....I disagree that SJU is a step down from Minnesota, not with our history, not with MSG as our home court. If that is true we need to cease and desist any expectations of our basketball program going forward. I think what made Lavin successful as a recruiter with us is he was able to crystalize and sale these facts seemingly better than anyone. Many of you really don't understand how big a recruiting tool playing at MSG can be. Being a sleazy car salesman can have it's advantages on the recruiting front.
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How about getting an experienced assistant coach to compliment Mullin. Good talent does better w good coaching. And Fun’s comments that Amar is following orders by hoisting 3s and not playing inside does not reflect well on Mullins coaching.
Think we need an experienced assistant coach and another recruiter. We still don't have a decent big on the roster and unfortunately as of today it doesn't appear that is going to change for next year either. If we don't bring in a big for next year something is seriously wrong.
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How about getting an experienced assistant coach to compliment Mullin. Good talent does better w good coaching. And Fun’s comments that Amar is following orders by hoisting 3s and not playing inside does not reflect well on Mullins coaching.
Think we need an experienced assistant coach and another recruiter. We still don't have a decent big on the roster and unfortunately as of today it doesn't appear that is going to change for next year either. If we don't bring in a big for next year something is seriously wrong.
Actually, we return Owens next year and add 6’9” 230 Sedee Keita, and 6’9” 210 lb Josh Roberts. That’s 2 big man additions already.
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How about getting an experienced assistant coach to compliment Mullin. Good talent does better w good coaching. And Fun’s comments that Amar is following orders by hoisting 3s and not playing inside does not reflect well on Mullins coaching.
Think we need an experienced assistant coach and another recruiter. We still don't have a decent big on the roster and unfortunately as of today it doesn't appear that is going to change for next year either. If we don't bring in a big for next year something is seriously wrong.
Fwiw, Keita has impressed folks who have seen his practices. Roberts will certainly be an improvement over Amar at PF slot with his athleticism. I'm sure they are monitoring another big as well. We'll see.
Keita, Owens, Roberts, an additional big, keep Ponds & this team will be very good next year.
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Agree Paultz. Plus we still have Yakwe, Owens, Clark. Add Diakite. That’s solid, not to mention our backcourt additions. We will be much deeper and more balanced front to
Back. Even if we lose guards, we add Dixon, Trumble back, Simon, Williams. I hope we can keep Ponds.
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How about getting an experienced assistant coach to compliment Mullin. Good talent does better w good coaching. And Fun’s comments that Amar is following orders by hoisting 3s and not playing inside does not reflect well on Mullins coaching.
Think we need an experienced assistant coach and another recruiter. We still don't have a decent big on the roster and unfortunately as of today it doesn't appear that is going to change for next year either. If we don't bring in a big for next year something is seriously wrong.
Fwiw, Keita has impressed folks who have seen his practices. Roberts will certainly be an improvement over Amar at PF slot with his athleticism. I'm sure they are monitoring another big as well. We'll see.
Keita, Owens, Roberts, an additional big, keep Ponds & this team will be very good next year.
If we keep Ponds next year, I think we could be pre-season top 25.
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Agree Paultz. Plus we still have Yakwe, Owens, Clark. Add Diakite. That’s solid, not to mention our backcourt additions. We will be much deeper and more balanced front to
Back. Even if we lose guards, we add Dixon, Trumble back, Simon, Williams. I hope we can keep Ponds.
I'd be surprised if Yakwe was back next year.
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How about getting an experienced assistant coach to compliment Mullin. Good talent does better w good coaching. And Fun’s comments that Amar is following orders by hoisting 3s and not playing inside does not reflect well on Mullins coaching.
Think we need an experienced assistant coach and another recruiter. We still don't have a decent big on the roster and unfortunately as of today it doesn't appear that is going to change for next year either. If we don't bring in a big for next year something is seriously wrong.
Actually, we return Owens next year and add 6’9” 230 Sedee Keita, and 6’9” 210 lb Josh Roberts. That’s 2 big man additions already.
I forgot about Keita, that's the type of active, big body we need. If Roberts can put on some weight we will be alright.
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Agree Paultz. Plus we still have Yakwe, Owens, Clark. Add Diakite. That’s solid, not to mention our backcourt additions. We will be much deeper and more balanced front to
Back. Even if we lose guards, we add Dixon, Trumble back, Simon, Williams. I hope we can keep Ponds.
I'd be surprised if Yakwe was back next year.
Not gonna break the bank for us.... nice kid but he isn’t contributing like I thought he would. We could use a wing to replace Bashir... Simon is a great point forward, but an offensively talented wing would be in order...
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How about getting an experienced assistant coach to compliment Mullin. Good talent does better w good coaching. And Fun’s comments that Amar is following orders by hoisting 3s and not playing inside does not reflect well on Mullins coaching.
Think we need an experienced assistant coach and another recruiter. We still don't have a decent big on the roster and unfortunately as of today it doesn't appear that is going to change for next year either. If we don't bring in a big for next year something is seriously wrong.
Actually, we return Owens next year and add 6’9” 230 Sedee Keita, and 6’9” 210 lb Josh Roberts. That’s 2 big man additions already.
I forgot about Keita, that's the type of active, big body we need. If Roberts can put on some weight we will be alright.
Roberts is a big kid without big shoulders and at minimum 210 already. He’s not built like Owens and should gain size easily.
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Were 2-0 :)
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Were 2-0 :)
We are.. bigger test tomorrow. Nebraska more talented and more balanced. Can’t have let-ups if we have tourney hopes. Gotta build a resume’ Need to step on the gas and keep it on. Starting season 3-0 would be big for us.
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Agree Paultz. Plus we still have Yakwe, Owens, Clark. Add Diakite. That’s solid, not to mention our backcourt additions. We will be much deeper and more balanced front to
Back. Even if we lose guards, we add Dixon, Trumble back, Simon, Williams. I hope we can keep Ponds.
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Alibegovic and Yakwe were better than they were against New Orleans. At least they have begun to show some small improvement. Let’s see what the staff can teach them over the next month.
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Alibegovic and Yakwe were better than they were against New Orleans. At least they have begun to show some small improvement. Let’s see what the staff can teach them over the next month.
Thought yakwe was awful last night. Amar didn’t play until garbage time. I left soon after he got in. The team improved by playing Trimble more and Amar less.
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I thought Marquette played hard and could beat us.
That's not what I saw. They played Swiss cheese defense and only had three guys who can score. Cheatham has taken a step back. They look primed to finish 7-8.
Our games with them will be toss ups. Both are guard oriented teams with no inside presence whatsoever. Both teams will bomb 3s and whoever makes more will win
The difference is our guards can get to the basket...especially against their guards. This is one of our best chances to sweep, but I think they pull it out at home.
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Were 2-0 :)
We're also 2-0. ;) :)
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Alibegovic and Yakwe were better than they were against New Orleans. At least they have begun to show some small improvement. Let’s see what the staff can teach them over the next month.
Thought yakwe was awful last night. Amar didn’t play until garbage time. I left soon after he got in. The team improved by playing Trimble more and Amar less.
Yakwe had a free throw attempt, a block and a rebound. It’s progress from a certain POV.
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Seton Hall looks excellentz. Easy tourney team that should advance. Indiana isn’t great, but they’re playing quite well today and they can’t come close to handling the Hall...
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Butler ran into a pretty good and very disciplined Maryland team. That said, they live and die by their outside shooting. There’s talent at Butler but not overly fast and Kelan Martin found himself way ahead of the rest of the team at times. They’ll struggle this year overall. They did a lot of ball-watching on defense, which is uncharacteristic of them...
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Big win for Creighton and the conference @ Northwestern. That kid Alexander on Creighton looked real good
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what was the injury to their big man? saw him on crutches
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what was the injury to their big man? saw him on crutches
Rolled his ankle pretty bad
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what was the injury to their big man? saw him on crutches
Manny Suarez, the grad transfer center from Adelphi, chipped in 8 and 5. We could have used him.
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Seton Hall looks excellentz. Easy tourney team that should advance. Indiana isn’t great, but they’re playing quite well today and they can’t come close to handling the Hall...
SH looks GOOD! They aren't bowing out early in the tournament this season.
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what was the injury to their big man? saw him on crutches
Manny Suarez, the grad transfer center from Adelphi, chipped in 8 and 5. We could have used him.
We don't need no stinkin big man!
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Seton Hall looks excellentz. Easy tourney team that should advance. Indiana isn’t great, but they’re playing quite well today and they can’t come close to handling the Hall...
SH looks GOOD! They aren't bowing out early in the tournament this season.
They may not bow out early, but I don't understand how people can speak in such absolutes. The "wrong" matchup and things not going their way, and they could quickly be eliminated in March.
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what was the injury to their big man? saw him on crutches
Manny Suarez, the grad transfer center from Adelphi, chipped in 8 and 5. We could have used him.
We don't need no stinkin big man!
Again, I would've taken the big JUCO kid (for 10-15 minutes per outing). I wished we had also nabbed Hasahn French. The Billikens hasn't played anyone of significance, but French is averaging 9.5 points and 7 boards during their first two games.
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Seton Hall looks excellentz. Easy tourney team that should advance. Indiana isn’t great, but they’re playing quite well today and they can’t come close to handling the Hall...
SH looks GOOD! They aren't bowing out early in the tournament this season.
They may not bow out early, but I don't understand how people can speak in such absolutes. The "wrong" matchup and things not going their way, and they could quickly be eliminated in March.
It's a message board, everything should be read to begin with "in my opinion." I have no idea what SH will do. I just think Myles Powell is a back-breaking talent next to Carrington, Desi, and Delgado. I could see the kid ending a few teams seasons in March.
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St. John’s got Greg Williams, an unranked Big East team beat a ranked Big Ten team on the road and the Knicks won. All is right in the world again.
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Providence has a lot of beef in the frontline. I don't know who we have who can guard these guys.
And vice versa. Will they be quick enough to handle us
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Depaul lost by 9 to Illinois, but the odd thing is that they haven't played in 60 years. That's crazy for the best two teams in the state.
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Creighton up 10 with the ball against #23 UCLA with 7 minutes left. Announcer said he grew up next to Chris Mullin and that Creighton star freshman Mitchell Ballock (22 points) reminds him of Mullin.
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Creighton up 10 with the ball at #23 UCLA with 7 minutes left. Announcer said he grew up next to Chris Mullin and that Creighton star freshman Mitchell Ballock (22 points) reminds him of Mullin.
That announcer is Fran Fraschilla
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Depaul lost by 9 to Illinois, but the odd thing is that they haven't played in 60 years. That's crazy for the best two teams in the state.
DePaul hasn’t been among the two best teams in Illinois since they had Quentin Richardson and Bobby Simmons.
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Creighton up 10 with the ball at #23 UCLA with 7 minutes left. Announcer said he grew up next to Chris Mullin and that Creighton star freshman Mitchell Ballock (22 points) reminds him of Mullin.
That announcer is Fran Fraschilla
Hahaha yeah I realized about a minute later. Didn't sound like him.
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Depaul lost by 9 to Illinois, but the odd thing is that they haven't played in 60 years. That's crazy for the best two teams in the state.
DePaul hasn’t been among the two best teams in Illinois since they had Quentin Richardson and Bobby Simmons.
Explain the other 50 years then. It's just really odd. The state has three high major teams and Northwestern has made one NCAA tournament in its history.
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Creighton's pace is going to break some backs. Deep, athletic, and they can score like crazy. They push all game. Up 10 with 1:34 left. Crazy they aren't ranked.
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Creighton's pace is going to break some backs. Deep, athletic, and they can score like crazy. They push all game. Up 10 with 1:34 left. Crazy they aren't ranked.
They'll likely be ranked next week.
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Depaul lost by 9 to Illinois, but the odd thing is that they haven't played in 60 years. That's crazy for the best two teams in the state.
DePaul hasn’t been among the two best teams in Illinois since they had Quentin Richardson and Bobby Simmons.
Explain the other 50 years then. It's just really odd. The state has three high major teams and Northwestern has made one NCAA tournament in its history.
Salukis
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Good job by Creighton in the past week, but poor shooting tonight done 'em in (5-30 from behind the arc and 34% overall from the field). Baylor also held the Bluejays to 59 points.
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Creighton lost by 6 in championship game to #22 Baylor. They lead all game until the end. Legs gave out on them. Baylor is good, and that is gross. Sleezy program.
Kaleb Joseph didn't play again. I don't know if he's injured or what but Creighton's one weakness is a solid PG and it showed late.
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Creighton lost by 6 in championship game to #22 Baylor. They lead all game until the end. Legs gave out on them. Baylor is good, and that is gross. Sleezy program.
Kaleb Joseph didn't play again. I don't know if he's injured or what but Creighton's one weakness is a solid PG and it showed late.
Not sure if that Ty-Shon Alexander kid can handle the load at PG this year if he has to but he is going to be a stud sooner rather than later
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I watched Marquette - Wichita State yesterday.... was not a pretty game.
I think Shockers are a tad overrated and a good athletic team will give them massive problems..
As for Marquette, all they do is launch 3's... they were having success when they attacked the basket but would consistently settle for 3's and they were not making them. Will be a long year for them if they keep playing that way but they will upset some teams along the way if they get a hot night going from long range.
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Yup, it seems Marquette wants to out-shoot you to win, and nothing more.
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Yup, it seems Marquette wants to out-shoot you to win, and nothing more.
Creighton plays in a similar fashion. They're probably better coached and has a few more scoring options than Marquette (The Golden Eagles has only two, true scoring options), but they both play a very, similar style of ball.
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Villanova struggling against Western Kentucky. Still winning 41-35, but their frontcourt hasn’t contributed much at all. Jenkins is a big loss. Hart, too. IDK if they’re the same lock to win the conference this season.
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Villanova struggling against Western Kentucky. Still winning 41-35, but their frontcourt hasn’t contributed much at all. Jenkins is a big loss. Hart, too. IDK if they’re the same lock to win the conference this season.
Seton Hall is the best team in conference imho. They have a monster inside. Guys like Rodriguez, Carrington, Powell and Cale are all ballers, and their bench is really deep.
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Villanova struggling against Western Kentucky. Still winning 41-35, but their frontcourt hasn’t contributed much at all. Jenkins is a big loss. Hart, too. IDK if they’re the same lock to win the conference this season.
Bridges is breaking out now. Underrated player
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Nova will be fine. They are loaded and the best in the league until someone dethrones them.
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Nova will be fine. They are loaded and the best in the league until someone dethrones them.
Agreed. Best backcourt in the Big East , maybe nation
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Villanova struggling against Western Kentucky. Still winning 41-35, but their frontcourt hasn’t contributed much at all. Jenkins is a big loss. Hart, too. IDK if they’re the same lock to win the conference this season.
Agreed, I think that they're going to see their fair share of losses within the conference round robin this Winter. Hall, Creighton and X have already impressed mightily against the field during the early OOC. Teams like Marquette, the Johnnies and the Friars are dangerous. Most of the teams within the conference are the same age if not older than Nova's core this year. I'm not dismissing Nova's exceptional talent base or winning tradition, I just think that there is a fair shot at them being dethroned for the first time in 4 years.
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Providence in a dogfight at home against a good Belmont team. Down 2 with 5 mins left
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WOW Providence wins on a miracle 3 by Cartwright at the buzzer
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What a wild finish and win for Providence!
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Villanova struggling against Western Kentucky. Still winning 41-35, but their frontcourt hasn’t contributed much at all. Jenkins is a big loss. Hart, too. IDK if they’re the same lock to win the conference this season.
Agreed, I think that they're going to see their fair share of losses within the conference round robin this Winter. Hall, Creighton and X have already impressed mightily against the field during the early OOC. Teams like Marquette, the Johnnies and the Friars are dangerous. Most of the teams within the conference are the same age if not older than Nova's core this year. I'm not dismissing Nova's exceptional talent base or winning tradition, I just think that there is a fair shot at them being dethroned for the first time in 4 years.
Crazy thing is the league is still on the way up! Most teams are rebuilding really well with even better recruits. the league is excellent and will be for a long time. I'd like to see the Big East make a slight push with marketing in terms of positioning to recruits. Sell the fact that we are first and foremost known for our basketball and get it out there a bit more. Most conferences are football-centric. The Big East IS basketball.. gotta sell that..
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Seton Hall in a dogfight with Rhode Island.
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Seton Hall in a dogfight with Rhode Island.
Rhode Island was also missing their best player, E.C. Matthews.
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Seton Hall in a dogfight with Rhode Island.
Rhode Island was also missing their best player, E.C. Matthews.
I saw that. Big win for them.
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Villanova struggling against Western Kentucky. Still winning 41-35, but their frontcourt hasn’t contributed much at all. Jenkins is a big loss. Hart, too. IDK if they’re the same lock to win the conference this season.
Agreed, I think that they're going to see their fair share of losses within the conference round robin this Winter. Hall, Creighton and X have already impressed mightily against the field during the early OOC. Teams like Marquette, the Johnnies and the Friars are dangerous. Most of the teams within the conference are the same age if not older than Nova's core this year. I'm not dismissing Nova's exceptional talent base or winning tradition, I just think that there is a fair shot at them being dethroned for the first time in 4 years.
Crazy thing is the league is still on the way up! Most teams are rebuilding really well with even better recruits. the league is excellent and will be for a long time. I'd like to see the Big East make a slight push with marketing in terms of positioning to recruits. Sell the fact that we are first and foremost known for our basketball and get it out there a bit more. Most conferences are football-centric. The Big East IS basketball.. gotta sell that..
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As, I stated in the Missouri game thread.... Arizona State has shot makers. Their guards are giving Xavier fits!
They're a veteran team, and we're gonna have our hands full with 'em.
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Arizona State may be legit. They're throttling Xavier by 20 (100-80).
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As, I stated in the Missouri game thread.... Arizona State has shot makers. Their guards are giving Xavier fits!
They're a veteran team, and we're gonna have our hands full with 'em.
Holden dropped 40 on them, 100+ on Xavier is nothing to sniff at.
Btw, I'm going on record, Butler is mediocre at best this Big East season.
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As, I stated in the Missouri game thread.... Arizona State has shot makers. Their guards are giving Xavier fits!
They're a veteran team, and we're gonna have our hands full with 'em.
Holden dropped 40 on them, 100+ on Xavier is nothing to sniff at.
Btw, I'm going on record, Butler is mediocre at best this Big East season.
Guess I can quote you on that, huh? ;) :)
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As, I stated in the Missouri game thread.... Arizona State has shot makers. Their guards are giving Xavier fits!
They're a veteran team, and we're gonna have our hands full with 'em.
Holden dropped 40 on them, 100+ on Xavier is nothing to sniff at.
Btw, I'm going on record, Butler is mediocre at best this Big East season.
Guess I can quote you on that, huh? ;) :)
I'm not impressed with Butler whatsoever. Chrabascz made that team go last year, they are out of sync with a brand new head coach. 4 rotation seniors lost in the offseason. They'll compete but are within the bottom third of the conference in my opinion.
DePaul gave Oregon fits last night, lost the game in OT. I'm impressed with their grad transfer big Maric. Moral building loss, tough tournament wknd in Portland for them but I think the uptick in competition made them a better team overall.
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Butler comes from 15 down to edge Ohio State & their former coach.
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Butler comes from 15 down to edge Ohio State & their former coach.
Gotta feel real good for them
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Marquette's Haanif Cheatham leaving the program, Borzello and Rothstein report.
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Marquette's Haanif Cheatham leaving the program, Borzello and Rothstein report.
Expected more from this guy after his freshman season.
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wow pretty big news from a player averaging 25 min a game....looks like they only have 7 players left who contribute (10 min or more a game) and two of them average 3 points or less
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Three BE teams are ranked this week in the AP Poll — Nova up to #4, @Xavier at #21, Creighton at #25.
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Marquette's Haanif Cheatham leaving the program, Borzello and Rothstein report.
Great news for us. No reason not to sweep.
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Marquette down to 8 scholarship players, which is a major story in the BE. Jameel McKay, Deonte Burton, Duane Wilson and Cheatham some of the Wojo defects. Cheatham was fugazi, overrated out of HS, a complete mirage while in Milwaukee.
To note with Wilson, he spoke fondly of the program graduated from Marquette. As a grad transfer to TXAM he simply left for the opportunity of going to a power winning team with a chance for major minutes, it's definitely paying off for him.
After a tough first year (13-19), Wojo has led Marquette to a 19 win year 2 followed by a 20 win tourney berth third season. Now even more limited than us, it's going to be hard for them to match the past couple years of success.
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Nova is rolling, undefeated at #4 in the country after winning Atlantis. X slips to #21 after getting thrashed by Arizona St. Creighton @#25, Hall suddenly slips out of the top25 after losing to URI by 1 last week, to note they're #26.
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Marquette down 4 with a minute left at home against Eastern Illinois
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Marquette down 4 with a minute left at home against Eastern Illinois
OT
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Butler's Sean McDermott will miss four to six weeks due to an ankle sprain' was averaging 9/Gm.
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Langford and Nate Watson freshmen Friars contributing in the OOC as expected-
http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20171128/friar-freshmen-helping-to-spark-fast-start
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Kevin McNamara
@KevinMcNamara33
PC's Emmitt Holt ruled out for this season
Normally a big blow, but Cooley has recruited a few physical bigs in last two years to take sting out of this.
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Novas gym is worse than CA
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Butler's Sean McDermott will miss four to six weeks due to an ankle sprain' was averaging 9/Gm.
Good looking player.
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What an outstanding college player, leader & PG!
@franfraschilla
Nova’s @jalenbrunson1 is averaging 18.4 and 4.3 assists, shooting 66% from field, 52% from 3 & 83% from line. @Battle4Atlantis MVP has 4.3:1 A:TO, a
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First time seeing this big man on Xavier, kanter. Smooth on the offensive end. Would be great if our guards had someone like that to feed the ball to.
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Enes' little bro'.
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Seton Hall with gritty win over Louisville on the road
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New AP Poll
Seton Hall No. 19, Xavier No. 13 & Villanova ranked No. 4.
Arizona State #16 btw
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How the heck did Georgetown get votes and we didn't....... ridiculous. I guess it does pay to schedule all cupcakes.
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How the heck did Georgetown get votes and we didn't....... ridiculous. I guess it does pay to schedule all cupcakes.
Per Zach B
Georgetown's six opponents: Jacksonville, Mount St. Mary's, Maryland Eastern Shore, Richmond, Maine and Coppin State. Combined record is 11-38. The Hoyas got 4 AP votes.
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How the heck did Georgetown get votes and we didn't....... ridiculous. I guess it does pay to schedule all cupcakes.
Per Zach B
Georgetown's six opponents: Jacksonville, Mount St. Mary's, Maryland Eastern Shore, Richmond, Maine and Coppin State. Combined record is 11-38. The Hoyas got 4 AP votes.
Shows you how absurd the polls are. That is a joke. I have watched a couple of their games and was not impressed with them and their schedule obviously have been pathetic.
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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21656450/villanova-wildcats-figured-how-make-shots-every-single-year
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Lunardi tweeted Seeds out today even though he does not update bracket until Thursday this week.
5 Big East Schools In
Nova 1
X 3
Seton Hall 5
Creighton 9
Prov 10
Butler 1st Team Out
St. Johns 12th Team Out
FWIW On the Board
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Lunardi tweeted Seeds out today even though he does not update bracket until Thursday this week.
5 Big East Schools In
Nova 1
X 3
Seton Hall 5
Creighton 9
Prov 10
Butler 1st Team Out
St. Johns 12th Team Out
FWIW On the Board
Lunardi is useless until February. We are 7-1 and #30 in the RPI. If he is not putting us in now, he's guessing the future and that is not what he's known for.
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With all the ranked teams going down this week, are we one win away from being in the top 25?
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I think so, or if not at least in the 26-30 range.....Hopefully we hear the status on Lovett soon because we will need him on Friday to beat Arizona State.
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Providence going to OT with Brown
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Kenpom.com ranks the basketball conferences
1. Big 12
2. ACC
3. BE
4. SEC
5. Big Ten
6. Pac 12
7. AAC
8. MWC
9. MVC
10. A10
11. WCC
12. CAA
13. MAC
14. Sun Belt
15. Ivy
16. Summit
17. ConUSA
18. SoCon
19. Western
20. Metro Atlantic
21. Patriot
22. Ohio Valley
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I'm sure Nova will pull our a W, but amazing LaSalle keeping it tied w/ 5 min remaining but only 0-1 from FT line.
Nova just does not foul on the ball. Amazing
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Per John Fanta
The @AP_Top25 is out. @NovaMBB is ranked #1, @XavierMBB cracks the Top 10 at #10, and @SetonHallMBB is ranked 15th. #BIGEASThoops
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Thought i would post in hear instead of starting a new topic.....Saw Seth Davis posted an article about Mullin and St. John's...Anyone have access to the article? Just wanted to see what the main talking points were.
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Georgetown beating up on Syracuse. Maybe that soft schedule wasn’t such a bad idea. It appears to have worked. They are going to be a load to handle in the paint.
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And the Hall goes down to Rutgers.....
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And the Hall goes down to Rutgers.....
Great finish, too. Except for Miles Powell. Pretty dirty with that flagrant foul at the very end.
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Georgetown beating up on Syracuse. Maybe that soft schedule wasn’t such a bad idea. It appears to have worked. They are going to be a load to handle in the paint.
Their soft schedule and winning against Syracuse today (the 'Cuse has cut the lead to two, as I type this) is irrelevant. Syracuse can't shoot, can't shoot FTs, and in need of a point guard.
I'm willing to bet they'll still finish 9th in the conference when it's all said and done.
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Georgetown beating up on Syracuse. Maybe that soft schedule wasn’t such a bad idea. It appears to have worked. They are going to be a load to handle in the paint.
Their soft schedule and winning against Syracuse today (the 'Cuse has cut the lead to two, as I type this) is irrelevant. Syracuse can't shoot, can't shoot FTs, and in need of a point guard.
I'm willing to bet they'll still finish 9th in the conference when it's all said and done.
Watched a lot of the game. Neither looked good. Georgetown is no gimme but the soft schedule shouldn’t fool anyone. They are in a rebuild.
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Georgetown beating up on Syracuse. Maybe that soft schedule wasn’t such a bad idea. It appears to have worked. They are going to be a load to handle in the paint.
Their soft schedule and winning against Syracuse today (the 'Cuse has cut the lead to two, as I type this) is irrelevant. Syracuse can't shoot, can't shoot FTs, and in need of a point guard.
I'm willing to bet they'll still finish 9th in the conference when it's all said and done.
Well then. SU is now up 7 with 37 seconds to go in OT. I don’t think this is a 9th place ACC team, but I see what you’re saying about point guard, so they could struggle against quality guards. Frank Howard reminds me of how Eugene Lawrence would run our offense. Neither can dribble or shoot. Howard slowly walks the ball up the court every time just like friggan Geno used to.
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Georgetown beating up on Syracuse. Maybe that soft schedule wasn’t such a bad idea. It appears to have worked. They are going to be a load to handle in the paint.
Their soft schedule and winning against Syracuse today (the 'Cuse has cut the lead to two, as I type this) is irrelevant. Syracuse can't shoot, can't shoot FTs, and in need of a point guard.
I'm willing to bet they'll still finish 9th in the conference when it's all said and done.
Watched a lot of the game. Neither looked good. Georgetown is no gimme but the soft schedule shouldn’t fool anyone. They are in a rebuild.
I basically watched the entire game. Agree with the rest of your post. Word for word.
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East Tennessee State is up 19 at Xavier (under 15 left in the game).
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DePaul up on Northwestern at Half and Last i Saw Xavier down 14 vs East Tenn State......Butler got beat by Purdue....Not a great day for the big east ...St. Johns is right on par with all these teams and no reason why we cant challenge for top 4 finish.
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unbelievable Xavier comeback...after they switched to a zone, it was a completely different game.
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tough ending for DePaul...
made a nice comeback also...
but they blew a game typing layup opportunity...
Northwest wins.
Big East overall with a poor day.
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SHU Fr. G Jordan Walker leaving the team, so says Slater.
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Bobby Bancroft
@BobbyBancroft
Wow Georgetown's bench just got a lot smaller and shorter.
Freshman 7-foot-3 center Chris Sodom has been dismissed from the program after playing 27 minutes in 6 games.
EDIT: Supposedly, Georgetown is placing out "feelers" to (former Louisville recruit) Brian Bowen's camp.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/19/freshman-guard-jordan-walker-leaves-seton-hall/
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Wow that is a bad loss for them on multiple levels.
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Bobby Bancroft
@BobbyBancroft
Wow Georgetown's bench just got a lot smaller and shorter.
Freshman 7-foot-3 center Chris Sodom has been dismissed from the program after playing 27 minutes in 6 games.
EDIT: Supposedly, Georgetown is placing out "feelers" to (former Louisville recruit) Brian Bowen's camp.
Good move to reach out to Bowen. He has already been paid. ::)
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Per Jerry Carino
Seton Hall has suspended senior forward Ish Sanogo for a violation of team rules. No timetable given but he will not play tomorrow vs. Manhattan. This has been one rocky week in Pirate-land.
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Delgado and Powell in a brawl with Manhattan. Powell was just ejected. Wow. And for Manhattan, Rich Williams is gone.
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2017/12/big-east-bonanza-non-conference-review.html
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The three losing teams scored 85,87 and 89 points last night. Can we score enough to compete or are we the only team in the conference that can play D?
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http://www.espn.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/120388/patrick-ewing-georgetown-would-have-benefited-from-a-tougher-schedule
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The three losing teams scored 85,87 and 89 points last night. Can we score enough to compete or are we the only team in the conference that can play D?
Georgetown went into double OT, and scored exactly 1 point per possession which is not good at all. DePaul scored 1.08 points per possession but the biggest chunk of their points came when the game was already decided. I don't think that should be a concern just yet
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It made no sense to me that the no. 1 team was not on FS1 last night.
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DePaul gave Xavier everything they could handle.
Got blown out at home by Nova and went on the road to what everyone believes is the second best team in BE and fought like hell.
SJU gets blown out tomorrow then we need to ask questions. With or without Lovett I want to see some fight. Again every loss last year was essentially a no contest especially on the road to the better teams.
Need to start competing better...
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And down goes Nova.
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And down goes Nova.
So if Butler can beat Nova and most picked them behind us when the heck are we going to spring an upset of a really good team?
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And down goes Nova.
So if Butler can beat Nova and most picked them behind us when the heck are we going to spring an upset of a really good team?
Circa 2019
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Rowsey is a dangerous player, can light it up in a hurry. All Big East player
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yeah... he'sreally good.
He's a sharpshooter and has a killer pump fake from 3 pt range that draws fouls and nails his FT's...
To think he was playing at UNC Asheville
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Watching GT / DePaul game...
Ewing seems like a real tough coach...
Camera caught him "talking" to Derrickson and he says
"what's wrong with you?" "You wanna play for me...or what?"
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Watching GT / DePaul game...
Ewing seems like a real tough coach...
Camera caught him "talking" to Derrickson and he says
"what's wrong with you?" "You wanna play for me...or what?"
That's what Mullin says to the referees. :D
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Here is a video of Ewing yelling at a player for a terrible shot:
https://twitter.com/MoSokanhe/status/948383469708759041
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/01/big-east-bonanza-effective-fg.html
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Not surprised to see that our effective FG% is dead last in the conference and that not 1 of our players are within the top 10 individually. Our shooting is undisciplined, ill timed, and flat out irresponsible at times. Too many long 3 point shots early in the shot clock leading to bad positioning down low and easy transition points for opponents.
On a positive note, Marv at 48% from 3 and 94% FT is pretty impressive through 14 games.
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Marquette and Providence in OT. 90-86, Marquette under 2 minutes in OT.
EDIT: Howard with 52 points. 92-88, Marquette.
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Not surprised to see that our effective FG% is dead last in the conference and that not 1 of our players are within the top 10 individually. Our shooting is undisciplined, ill timed, and flat out irresponsible at times. Too many long 3 point shots early in the shot clock leading to bad positioning down low and easy transition points for opponents.
On a positive note, Marv at 48% from 3 and 94% FT is pretty impressive through 14 games.
We have the worst ball-handling in the conference. What do you expect?
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Providence up by 7 against #5 Xavier...
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Providence knocks off Xavier.
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Providence knocks off Xavier.
Yup BE teams beating up on each other and everyone beating up on St. John's. Business as usual.
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Markus Howard might be the best player in the league.
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/01/big-east-bonanza-closer-look-at-st.html
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Marquette's Haanif Cheatham leaving the program, Borzello and Rothstein report.
Great news for us. No reason not to sweep.
May have thought this to be the case but evidently there are coaches in this league that can adjust to players leaving the program unexpectedly. They are 3-1 after blowing SHU out at home tonight. The best perimeter team right now in the League. Still deficient defensively, but that should not be an issue when they play SJU since SJU can't score against anyone anyway.
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Wojo proving he can coach and his teams have gotten better every year. It would be nice to have someone like that.
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Wojo proving he can coach and his teams have gotten better every year. It would be nice to have someone like that.
Yeah it's funny when some of our fans badmouth other teams coaches all the while having usually one of the worst coaches around and a coach worse than those they badmouth.
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Terrific article touching on the conference's national relevancy over the past five seasons and Nova's dominance. 114-18 (66-10) despite the league ranking 2nd or 3rd nationally year after year. A true dynasty and the best the conference has ever seen:
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/villanovas-unprecedented-big-east-run-the-most-impressive-display-in-league-history/
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Providence/DePaul on FS1 right now with both coaches mic'ed up the entire game and no commercials. Providence on a 22-0 run. The difference in coaching between these two is huge. Cooley calling plays and directing the offense from the sideline while Leitao really just stands there and watches while his team is freewheeling out there. Really interesting stuff
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Providence/DePaul on FS1 right now with both coaches mic'ed up the entire game and no commercials. Providence on a 22-0 run. The difference in coaching between these two is huge. Cooley calling plays and directing the offense from the sideline while Leitao really just stands there and watches while his team is freewheeling out there. Really interesting stuff
Just saw a few minutes but at least in the huddle Leitao is instructing team on X and Os instead of just berating the refs.
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Kyle Lowry pledges $1M to Villanova campaign... locker room to be named for him
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/villanova/villanova-basketball-kyle-lowry-pledge-20180114.html
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Providence/DePaul on FS1 right now with both coaches mic'ed up the entire game and no commercials. Providence on a 22-0 run. The difference in coaching between these two is huge. Cooley calling plays and directing the offense from the sideline while Leitao really just stands there and watches while his team is freewheeling out there. Really interesting stuff
Just saw a few minutes but at least in the huddle Leitao is instructing team on X and Os instead of just berating the refs.
Yeah, but was Leiteo a great college and NBA player? I think not. We’ll take our chances will all time great Chris Mullin even if he’s just here to be a name and he’s statistically the worst coach we’ve ever had.
They could mic up Mullin, but would we even notice it?
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/01/big-east-bonanza-turnover-rates-stat.html
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/01/big-east-bonanza-turnover-rates-stat.html
St J's has a lot of guys on those lists yet we are winless in the BE. Gee if there was just someone who could put it all together.
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Georgetown 20 points at half at home
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Georgetown 20 points at half at home
Villanova made 10 3's in the first half.
EDIT: Georgetown should be well-rested by Saturday. They have no fight left in 'em with this 30-point ass-kicking. Ewing probably will start sitting some kids soon.
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Georgetown 20 points at half at home
Villanova made 10 3's in the first half.
EDIT: Georgetown should be well-rested by Saturday. They have no fight left in 'em with this 30-point ass-kicking. Ewing probably will start sitting some kids soon.
Donte lighting them up
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Georgetown 20 points at half at home
Villanova made 10 3's in the first half.
EDIT: Georgetown should be well-rested by Saturday. They have no fight left in 'em with this 30-point ass-kicking. Ewing probably will start sitting some kids soon.
Donte lighting them up
He is knocking 'em down. Actually, whoever shoots 'em for 'Nova are knocking 'em down. I thought I saw Jay Wright hit one from the bench.
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Georgetown 20 points at half at home
Villanova made 10 3's in the first half.
EDIT: Georgetown should be well-rested by Saturday. They have no fight left in 'em with this 30-point ass-kicking. Ewing probably will start sitting some kids soon.
Donte lighting them up
He is knocking 'em down. Actually, whoever shoots 'em for 'Nova are knocking 'em down. I thought I saw Jay Wright hit one from the bench.
Well if they are allowing the coaches to take shots Mullin should shoot about 30 per game for us and Richmond 25.
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Georgetown 20 points at half at home
Villanova made 10 3's in the first half.
EDIT: Georgetown should be well-rested by Saturday. They have no fight left in 'em with this 30-point ass-kicking. Ewing probably will start sitting some kids soon.
Donte lighting them up
He is knocking 'em down. Actually, whoever shoots 'em for 'Nova are knocking 'em down. I thought I saw Jay Wright hit one from the bench.
Well if they are allowing the coaches to take shots Mullin should shoot about 30 per game for us and Richmond 25.
Ha!
I'm confident in saying Villanova would've scored 100+ and likely won by 50, if they had even kept in two or three of their rotational guys.
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Georgetown 20 points at half at home
Villanova made 10 3's in the first half.
EDIT: Georgetown should be well-rested by Saturday. They have no fight left in 'em with this 30-point ass-kicking. Ewing probably will start sitting some kids soon.
Donte lighting them up
He is knocking 'em down. Actually, whoever shoots 'em for 'Nova are knocking 'em down. I thought I saw Jay Wright hit one from the bench.
Well if they are allowing the coaches to take shots Mullin should shoot about 30 per game for us and Richmond 25.
Bet is was a rough week of practice for Nova after the poor showing at MSG
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Georgetown 20 points at half at home
Villanova made 10 3's in the first half.
EDIT: Georgetown should be well-rested by Saturday. They have no fight left in 'em with this 30-point ass-kicking. Ewing probably will start sitting some kids soon.
Donte lighting them up
He is knocking 'em down. Actually, whoever shoots 'em for 'Nova are knocking 'em down. I thought I saw Jay Wright hit one from the bench.
Well if they are allowing the coaches to take shots Mullin should shoot about 30 per game for us and Richmond 25.
Bet is was a rough week of practice for Nova after the poor showing at MSG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhUxX63U5HQ
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Creighton C Martin Krampelj out for season with torn ACL. Blue Jays come to Queens next week.
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Creighton C Martin Krampelj out for season with torn ACL. Blue Jays come to Queens next week.
Shit if this happened before our first game with them we might be 1-6 :)
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Creighton C Martin Krampelj out for season with torn ACL. Blue Jays come to Queens next week.
Shit if this happened before our first game with them we might be 1-6 :)
Other BE teams weren’t lazy this summer. They have a full roster.
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Macura just dunked on the Seton Hall team. All of them. Play of the year
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Macura just dunked on the Seton Hall team. All of them. Play of the year
Lovin' them white guys.
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Macura just dunked on the Seton Hall team. All of them. Play of the year
His best game of the year. He was dialed in today.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-ryan-arcidiacono-intangibles-20180121-story.html
Arci impressed in his NBA debut over the wknd, happy for him.
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Phil Booth broken bone in hand. Big hit for the big east
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Phil Booth broken bone in hand. Big hit for the big east
Tough sledding for Booth the past couple seasons.
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Phil Booth broken bone in hand. Big hit for the big east
Does that mean we still have a chance for first place? Just trying to think ridiculously positive and overly optimistic like some of my brethren up here in these parts.
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Phil Booth broken bone in hand. Big hit for the big east
Tough sledding for Booth the past couple seasons.
Donte is the better player but he is great coming off the bench in the 6th man spot.
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Phil Booth broken bone in hand. Big hit for the big east
Tough sledding for Booth the past couple seasons.
Donte is the better player but he is great coming off the bench in the 6th man spot.
You?
Picking the white guy again?
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Phil Booth broken bone in hand. Big hit for the big east
Tough sledding for Booth the past couple seasons.
Donte is the better player but he is great coming off the bench in the 6th man spot.
You?
Picking the white guy again?
Didn't know race had anything to do with it. It's basketball. But hey, thanks for your participation white boy
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Phil Booth broken bone in hand. Big hit for the big east
Tough sledding for Booth the past couple seasons.
Donte is the better player but he is great coming off the bench in the 6th man spot.
You?
Picking the white guy again?
Didn't know race had anything to do with it. It's basketball. But hey, thanks for your participation white boy
He's not white he is either Isiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman because he thinks Larry Bird was just another player. Right tomindicksbury?
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Phil Booth broken bone in hand. Big hit for the big east
Tough sledding for Booth the past couple seasons.
Donte is the better player but he is great coming off the bench in the 6th man spot.
You?
Picking the white guy again?
Didn't know race had anything to do with it. It's basketball. But hey, thanks for your participation white boy
He's not white he is either Isiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman because he thinks Larry Bird was just another player. Right tomindicksbury?
Damn shame what is happening with the Cleveland Cavaliers
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/01/big-east-bonanza-midseason-honors-stat.html
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Georgetown/Xavier headed for OT. Tied at 86.
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Georgetown/Xavier headed for OT. Tied at 86.
Crazy day across the scoreboard
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/02/big-east-bonanza-closer-look-at-omari.html
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http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-josh-hart-rebounding-charles-barkley-impressing-teammates-luke-walton/2018/02/07/
No surprise that Josh Hart is excelling on the next level.
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http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-josh-hart-rebounding-charles-barkley-impressing-teammates-luke-walton/2018/02/07/
No surprise that Josh Hart is excelling on the next level.
+1
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So Villanova's 4 year stranglehold on the BE regular season may be ending...
Right now Xavier has a 1 game lead and they get Nova at home after last night's games.
I will say this even if Xavier wins the BE regular season I still like Nova over the long run as a better bet in the NCAA's. Biggest reason is Xavier has defensive lapses. Now they have been able to overcome them and win a lot of tight games but man they give up A LOT points even in their wins. They have two wins at home against Georgetown and SHU where they gave up 90+ in regulation. Heck SHU scored 65 in the SECOND HALF last night even though they lost. 65 points in a college HALF. DePaul had a 15 point second half lead on them at Xavier. Remember the beginning of the 2nd half when SJU played them at Xavier, I think SJU came out and hit their first 10 shots after halftime. They are good and they are resiliant but I think their poor defense will catch up to them.
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I’d be surprised if Xavier beats nova his weekend. Even at home.
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http://dalydoseofhoops.blogspot.com/2018/02/big-east-bonanza-strength-of-remaining.html
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I’d be surprised if Xavier beats nova his weekend. Even at home.
Nova staked their claim today.
Again Xavier has the second worst defensive efficiency in the BE.
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Markus Howard just went down real hard...crunched his back or hop....needed assistance to get off court. Out for 2nd half...
Will see if he's done for Wed or longer
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SHU/Providence game suspended with 13 minutes left due to unsafe floor conditions. Will be interesting to see when how they handle this with such little time left in the season.
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SHU/Providence game suspended with 13 minutes left due to unsafe floor conditions. Will be interesting to see when how they handle this with such little time left in the season.
Was it condensation? If so, I recall Providence having a similar trouble in a game last season.
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SHU/Providence game suspended with 13 minutes left due to unsafe floor conditions. Will be interesting to see when how they handle this with such little time left in the season.
Was it condensation? If so, I recall Providence having a similar trouble in a game last season.
Yep. It was like playing on a slip and slide
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SHU/Providence game suspended with 13 minutes left due to unsafe floor conditions. Will be interesting to see when how they handle this with such little time left in the season.
Was it condensation? If so, I recall Providence having a similar trouble in a game last season.
Yep. It was like playing on a slip and slide
I had forgot all about that particular game. I'm watching Xavier/Georgetown.
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Seton Hall/Providence will finish up at 'noon tomorrow at PC's Alumni Hall.
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and the Hall's Desi Rodriquez slipped and hurt himself and was out. Haven't heard about severity of injury or when he might be back.
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Former BE member Pitt scored one FG in first half at home against Virginia and scored a total of 7 points. Combo of a great defensive team in UVA and what must be a horrible Pitt team.
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Mullin featured along with BE commish Val Ackerman-
http://westwoodonesports.com/2018/03/twitbe-chris-mullin-val-ackerman-and-byron-larkin/
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Tremendous quotes, for someone with Northeast roots and unprecedented success, Wright uses his voice and speaks up for the conference consistently. He's a ambassador for the league and everyone should hope he retires at Nova-
Jerry Carino @NJHoopsHaven · 2h2 hours ago More
Jay Wright on the Big East and NYC: “We own it. It’s natural and authentic for the Big East . . . When the ACC or Big Ten comes in, it’s not natural for them. If they get to enjoy it, that’s good. It’s our home. It’s what we’ve done and who we are.”
Jerry Carino @NJHoopsHaven · 3h3 hours ago More
Kevin Willard, on other leagues invading NYC/MSG: “We’re established. We're part of New York. The Garden has been phenomenal to us. Just because other leagues come in and play (there) doesn’t really effect us all that much.”
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Get to know the name Mac McClung-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI4MrZXmUf8
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^^^^
Maybe, he'll live up to his internet hype. He averaged a ton a points ppg, but he played in a poor league for hoops. He'll probably help Georgetown, but will he ever live up to the hype?
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Depaul student paper & alums call for AD & coach changes
https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/2018/03/12/depaul-students-alums-call-for-firing-of-athletic-director/amp/
http://depauliaonline.com/33819/sports/overhaul-years-overdue-in-athletic-department/
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Depaul student paper & alums call for AD & coach changes
https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/2018/03/12/depaul-students-alums-call-for-firing-of-athletic-director/amp/
http://depauliaonline.com/33819/sports/overhaul-years-overdue-in-athletic-department/
They must be mad they lost the tiebreaker. We gave our coach around a B overall. #trust the process #no PG no problem
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Depaul student paper & alums call for AD & coach changes
https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/2018/03/12/depaul-students-alums-call-for-firing-of-athletic-director/amp/
http://depauliaonline.com/33819/sports/overhaul-years-overdue-in-athletic-department/
They must be mad they lost the tiebreaker. We gave our coach around a B overall. #trust the process #no PG no problem
Let’s not pretend there isn’t a huge difference between the two situations.
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Depaul student paper & alums call for AD & coach changes
https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/2018/03/12/depaul-students-alums-call-for-firing-of-athletic-director/amp/
http://depauliaonline.com/33819/sports/overhaul-years-overdue-in-athletic-department/
They must be mad they lost the tiebreaker. We gave our coach around a B overall. #trust the process #no PG no problem
Let’s not pretend there isn’t a huge difference between the two situations.
Define huge
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Depaul student paper & alums call for AD & coach changes
https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/2018/03/12/depaul-students-alums-call-for-firing-of-athletic-director/amp/
http://depauliaonline.com/33819/sports/overhaul-years-overdue-in-athletic-department/
They must be mad they lost the tiebreaker. We gave our coach around a B overall. #trust the process #no PG no problem
Let’s not pretend there isn’t a huge difference between the two situations.
Define huge
Start with the fact he had been a coach there before. Left and was unsuccessful. Wasn’t exactly an exciting rehire to revitalize the fan base with a new areana and new look conference. Mullin wasn’t hired to win right away, obviously there were going to be growing pains with a first time coach and there has been. If next year doesn’t get better then I’m sure there will be legitimate noise about finding a new coach.
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Depaul student paper & alums call for AD & coach changes
https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/2018/03/12/depaul-students-alums-call-for-firing-of-athletic-director/amp/
http://depauliaonline.com/33819/sports/overhaul-years-overdue-in-athletic-department/
They must be mad they lost the tiebreaker. We gave our coach around a B overall. #trust the process #no PG no problem
Let’s not pretend there isn’t a huge difference between the two situations.
Define huge
Start with the fact he had been a coach there before. Left and was unsuccessful. Wasn’t exactly an exciting rehire to revitalize the fan base with a new areana and new look conference. Mullin wasn’t hired to win right away, obviously there were going to be growing pains with a first time coach and there has been. If next year doesn’t get better then I’m sure there will be legitimate noise about finding a new coach.
Can’t debate this with you because we look at it so differently. I understand the depaull reaction, even though I think Leitao has improved the team and program. I understand the older St. John can perspective. They love Chris Mullin and that’s it.
I absolutely don’t understand a younger fan’s pro Mullin perspective. Hiring an inexperienced Coach, letting him make what ever decisions he wants, and paying a premium for his mistakes is nice personic.
With ponds we are in slightly better shape then DePaul. Without him, we are way behind.
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Depaul student paper & alums call for AD & coach changes
https://www.google.com/amp/wgntv.com/2018/03/12/depaul-students-alums-call-for-firing-of-athletic-director/amp/
http://depauliaonline.com/33819/sports/overhaul-years-overdue-in-athletic-department/
They must be mad they lost the tiebreaker. We gave our coach around a B overall. #trust the process #no PG no problem
Let’s not pretend there isn’t a huge difference between the two situations.
Define huge
Start with the fact he had been a coach there before. Left and was unsuccessful. Wasn’t exactly an exciting rehire to revitalize the fan base with a new areana and new look conference. Mullin wasn’t hired to win right away, obviously there were going to be growing pains with a first time coach and there has been. If next year doesn’t get better then I’m sure there will be legitimate noise about finding a new coach.
Can’t debate this with you because we look at it so differently. I understand the depaull reaction, even though I think Leitao has improved the team and program. I understand the older St. John can perspective. They love Chris Mullin and that’s it.
I absolutely don’t understand a younger fan’s pro Mullin perspective. Hiring an inexperienced Coach, letting him make what ever decisions he wants, and paying a premium for his mistakes is nice personic.
With ponds we are in slightly better shape then DePaul. Without him, we are way behind.
I have been critical of SJU and Mullin and he definitely needs to take a big step next year year. Everyone seems to agree with that but they are not SLIGHTLY above DePaul with what's coming in with Ponds. And the most important distinction between the two programs is expectations. The fact that SJU fired a coach who went to 2 NCAA's and 4 NCAA's/NIT's in 5 years should tell you where they expect to be. DePaul would never fire a coach with that type of record because they would not expect to do better than that.
Now Mullin needs to produce no doubt, but don't compare the two programs.
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Maybe, he'll live up to his internet hype. He averaged a ton a points ppg, but he played in a poor league for hoops. He'll probably help Georgetown, but will he ever live up to the hype?
I didn't see one jump shot shown in the video...
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Maybe, he'll live up to his internet hype. He averaged a ton a points ppg, but he played in a poor league for hoops. He'll probably help Georgetown, but will he ever live up to the hype?
I didn't see one jump shot shown in the video...
His jumper is actually the best part of his game, but he has a terrible attitude and his competition is always obviously questionable. He is going to be easy to hate.
This is the class of the internet sensations. Jordan McCabe is going to WVU: https://youtu.be/bJ9LAZRikWc
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Maybe, he'll live up to his internet hype. He averaged a ton a points ppg, but he played in a poor league for hoops. He'll probably help Georgetown, but will he ever live up to the hype?
Sort of like our Joe Girard only he hasn't signed yet.
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Maybe, he'll live up to his internet hype. He averaged a ton a points ppg, but he played in a poor league for hoops. He'll probably help Georgetown, but will he ever live up to the hype?
Sort of like our Joe Girard only he hasn't signed yet.
Except Joe is all basketball player while this kid is an elite athlete with some really good skills. If Joe were this athletic he would be a top 10 player in the country and average over 65 points a game.
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Awesome read-
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/in-winning-the-national-championship-villanova-finds-redemption-for-the-big-east/
Sidenote- Shaheen Holloway rumored early to St. Peter's.
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Sources: Grizzlies guard MarShon Brooks has agreed to a guaranteed two-year deal with Memphis. Brooks has scored 70 points over three games in his first 10-day contract.
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Backbreaking news for the Hoyas' success next season. Govan better be prepared for double teams all of next season:
https://georgetown.rivals.com/news/multiple-sources-derrickson-is-gone
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That will hurt G'town but they have a 4 star PF and 3 star C coming in next year that will help them offset the loss as well as a few underclassmen bigs who will help.
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That will hurt G'town but they have a 4 star PF and 3 star C coming in next year that will help them offset the loss as well as a few underclassmen bigs who will help.
Yeah, it may offset it slightly, but I thought Derrickson could potentially be a first or second-team All-Big East player next season. They also have a thin backcourt. They did have James Akinjo (2018 PG and former UConn commit) on an official visit during the weekend. So, he would be a bolster to their backcourt, if they could nab him.
Derrickson is a big loss, if he indeed signs with an agent.
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That will hurt G'town but they have a 4 star PF and 3 star C coming in next year that will help them offset the loss as well as a few underclassmen bigs who will help.
Yeah, it may offset it slightly, but I thought Derrickson could potentially be a first or second-team All-Big East player next season. They also have a thin backcourt. They did have James Akinjo (2018 PG and former UConn commit) on an official visit during the weekend. So, he would be a bolster to their backcourt, if they could nab him.
Derrickson is a big loss, if he indeed signs with an agent.
He announced in his statement that he plans to hire an agent. Sounds like he's all but gone. Rumors coming out saying that Yurtseven from NC St is going to play for Patrick next year. Also another 6'9 kid Bryce Golden who decomitted from Pitt has G'town on his list. If they get Yurtseven, they will be a tough out.
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That will hurt G'town but they have a 4 star PF and 3 star C coming in next year that will help them offset the loss as well as a few underclassmen bigs who will help.
Yeah, it may offset it slightly, but I thought Derrickson could potentially be a first or second-team All-Big East player next season. They also have a thin backcourt. They did have James Akinjo (2018 PG and former UConn commit) on an official visit during the weekend. So, he would be a bolster to their backcourt, if they could nab him.
Derrickson is a big loss, if he indeed signs with an agent.
He announced in his statement that he plans to hire an agent. Sounds like he's all but gone. Rumors coming out saying that Yurtseven from NC St is going to play for Patrick next year. Also another 6'9 kid Bryce Golden who decomitted from Pitt has G'town on his list. If they get Yurtseven, they will be a tough out.
Yeah, I heard about the rumors regarding Yurtseven. The latest I heard on Yurtseven is he may decide to go play abroad. He would definitely offset Derrickson's departure, if he decided to go to Georgetown. But, he could still end up being a sit-out transfer, unless the rule is passed for instant eligibility based on GPA.
Several other schools are in play for Golden (I wished we had at least given him a look), and he probably would be a valuable pickup down the road, but he wouldn't offset Derrickson's vacancy, IMO.
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UConn hopes to play more former Big East rivals in the future, according to athletic director David Benedict.
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UConn hopes to play more former Big East rivals in the future, according to athletic director David Benedict.
UConn’s game against Villanova will be Dec. 22 at MSG
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Georgetown big man Jessie Govan will declare for the NBA draft, but will not hire an agent, source told ESPN.
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That will hurt G'town but they have a 4 star PF and 3 star C coming in next year that will help them offset the loss as well as a few underclassmen bigs who will help.
Yeah, it may offset it slightly, but I thought Derrickson could potentially be a first or second-team All-Big East player next season. They also have a thin backcourt. They did have James Akinjo (2018 PG and former UConn commit) on an official visit during the weekend. So, he would be a bolster to their backcourt, if they could nab him.
Derrickson is a big loss, if he indeed signs with an agent.
He announced in his statement that he plans to hire an agent. Sounds like he's all but gone. Rumors coming out saying that Yurtseven from NC St is going to play for Patrick next year. Also another 6'9 kid Bryce Golden who decomitted from Pitt has G'town on his list. If they get Yurtseven, they will be a tough out.
Yurtseven isn't going to another college. That makes no sense.
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That will hurt G'town but they have a 4 star PF and 3 star C coming in next year that will help them offset the loss as well as a few underclassmen bigs who will help.
Yeah, it may offset it slightly, but I thought Derrickson could potentially be a first or second-team All-Big East player next season. They also have a thin backcourt. They did have James Akinjo (2018 PG and former UConn commit) on an official visit during the weekend. So, he would be a bolster to their backcourt, if they could nab him.
Derrickson is a big loss, if he indeed signs with an agent.
He announced in his statement that he plans to hire an agent. Sounds like he's all but gone. Rumors coming out saying that Yurtseven from NC St is going to play for Patrick next year. Also another 6'9 kid Bryce Golden who decomitted from Pitt has G'town on his list. If they get Yurtseven, they will be a tough out.
Yurtseven isn't going to another college. That makes no sense.
Him going to St. John's makes no sense. However he may want to get some big man tutelage from one of the best to ever do it and if that's the case then going to play for Patrick at G'town makes a whole lot of sense. If he doesn't go pro then he most likely ends up with the Hoyas.
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Omari Spellman declaring for NBA but not signing with an agent.
Be very interested in seeing where he projects on draft boards.
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http://www.woonsocketcall.com/sports/friars-cooley-already-eyes-next-season/article_ce76c906-423c-11e8-8ba9-97614d5306bd.html
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Donte D declaring without an agent.
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https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/987709599821246467
Xavier loses a recruit.
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Marquette playing the transfer game as well, 2nd one in two days.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/988236078741098496
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Eron Gordon transferring out of Hall.
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Bryce Golden, who was released from Pitt, is headed to Butler.
Syracuse was all over this kid after release from Pitt but Butler wins out.
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Jordan Walker transferring out of Hall, joining Eron Gordon. Factor in Desi/Khadeen/Delgado to graduation and the loss of Shaheen Holloway to St. Peter's....Willard is up against it next year. Good thing he has 3 consecutive NCAA's to fall back on.
https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2018/05/02/seton-hall-basketball/572008002/
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If things start to get messy, Willard will find some other shady way to address and then play dumb like he's doing with Tiny.
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Justin Moore top 100 2019 recruit to Nova. Shooting guard. 2nd 4 star 2019 recruit.
Jay has this program in auto pilot.
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For those that question his competition level out in Western Viriginia, he played w elite 2018's this wknd and showed out, video highlights linked below:
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Georgetown commit Mac McClung was dunking everything at the #BILAAG this weekend! @McclungMac
https://twitter.com/SLAM_HS/status/993297559337734146
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For those that question his competition level out in Western Viriginia, he played w elite 2018's this wknd and showed out
It's an all-star game. You could've "shown out" in it. If this had taken place about 15 or 20 years ago, then you might've had a point. Even then, you still would've needed to be careful about getting your hopes up too high.
I heard the word "abysmal" may have been an understatement when it came to the defense played in this particular all-star game.
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Quite possibly the best grad transfer on the market, Joe Cremo from Albany announces he is going to Villanova
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Rick Brunson screwing Jalen at the worst time yet again. First it was Temple, now the NBA, same misconduct, sad stuff-
Today-
https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/ex-knick-leaves-coaching-job-over-allegations-involving-women/
2014-
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/rick-brunsons-arrest-mightve-cost-temple-a-five-star-point-guard/
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Providence Basketball: Friars excelling in the new Big East
by Brian Foley 34 minutes agoFollow @briandfoley
Providence Basketball was an also-ran in the old Big East, but in the new and improved conference, the Friars have risen to new heights.
https://bustingbrackets.com/2018/05/09/providence-basketball-doing-well-in-new-big-east/
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/05/11/villanova-is-about-to-hit-the-lottery-in-recruiting/
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/05/11/villanova-is-about-to-hit-the-lottery-in-recruiting/
Is it time to just accept the fact that Nova is the Kentucky, Duke and Kansas of the BE?
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Thre real question is who is going to be the first BE team to catch them or even get close to their level? X was close but what will happen without Mack. No other team is even in the same neighborhood right now
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Khyri Thomas staying in the draft, signed with an agent. One more reason for Shamorie to come back the Shamorie stopper is gone.
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Any one have word as to whether or not Govan is going to sign with an agent?
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Per Yahoo Sports
Donte DiVincenzo hasn't made a formal decision, but told @ShamsCharania he expects to remain in the NBA draft barring injury, bad evaluation from Marillac or a drastic change in his performance. yhoo.it/2LiqcTp
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Per Yahoo Sports
Donte DiVincenzo hasn't made a formal decision, but told @ShamsCharania he expects to remain in the NBA draft barring injury, bad evaluation from Marillac or a drastic change in his performance. yhoo.it/2LiqcTp
He had a very good combine and is creeping up mock draft boards. Latest SI.com has him at no. 20 safely inside the 1st round so clearly he wouldn't gain much coming back.
For the record still no sighting of Shamorie in the 2nd round of any mock drafts.
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/05/21/2018-nba-mock-draft-combine-lottery-projections-deandre-ayton-luka-doncic-donte-divincenzo
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Freddie Hill out at the Hall. Apparently Duane Woodward (currently assistant at Monmouth) is the likely replacement.
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With Strus and Cain gone at the end of next season, and considering how a 4 star Tyger Campbell PG decommited DePaul earlier this offseason, this is a MONSTER get for Leitao-
http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/05/22/romeo-weems-to-depaul/
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Any one have word as to whether or not Govan is going to sign with an agent?
We can relate lol-
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Not sure what's taking so long. One week to go. #GovanWatch
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Jessie Govan tells me he will return to Georgetown next season. Entered 2018 NBA Draft without an agent.
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Jessie Govan tells me he will return to Georgetown next season. Entered 2018 NBA Draft without an agent.
Good move and good for the Big East
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Jessie Govan tells me he will return to Georgetown next season. Entered 2018 NBA Draft without an agent.
Hope that elusive mystery grad transfer big is out there to stop him from being an automatic double-double when he plays us next year.
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@ShamsCharania
Villanova sophomore Donte DiVincenzo will remain in the 2018 NBA Draft and forgo his remaining collegiate eligibility, sources told Yahoo.
The Final Four Most Outstanding Player had strong Combine, has performed well in team workouts.
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No shock on Donte D. Looking at bottom 3rd of the 1st round no reason to stay at Nova.
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After submitting his name for the NBA draft, @DePaulHoops Max Strus returns for senior season.
Release ⤵
http://bit.ly/2kBVM2w
#PlayingPossessed
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Nova Nation patiently awaiting Omari Spellman's announcement, he's making them sweat more than we were yesterday. Nova's place next season in the Big East standings hangs in the balance as they can lose 4 pieces from last year's team.
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Spellman is staying in the draft. He announced it on his Instagram page. Big East is going to be wide open next season.
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Looks like Nova is going to have similar roster construction as us this season. Lots of depth at guard with a couple super talented options there. Not much in the way of big depth with Paschall a stretch 4 type and Cosby-Rountree as really the only true big. Wright has had teams like this in the past and succeeded with them so they should be considered the favorites still
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/four-villanova-players-are-leaving-for-the-nba-draft-and-thats-a-bad-sign-for-the-champs/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEv66vQ4Hqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD7NHinG1o4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqljLsK-cw
With the Big4 headed to the Draft, expect these 3 to be the faces of the new era of Nova's program. Big time talents.
Question for the board.....on paper, who's the most talented roster in the BE?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEv66vQ4Hqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD7NHinG1o4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqljLsK-cw
With the Big4 headed to the Draft, expect these 3 to be the faces of the new era of Nova's program. Big time talents.
Question for the board.....on paper, who's the most talented roster in the BE?
St. John’s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEv66vQ4Hqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD7NHinG1o4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqljLsK-cw
With the Big4 headed to the Draft, expect these 3 to be the faces of the new era of Nova's program. Big time talents.
Question for the board.....on paper, who's the most talented roster in the BE?
St. John’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEv66vQ4Hqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD7NHinG1o4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqljLsK-cw
With the Big4 headed to the Draft, expect these 3 to be the faces of the new era of Nova's program. Big time talents.
Question for the board.....on paper, who's the most talented roster in the BE?
St. John’s
easily.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEv66vQ4Hqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD7NHinG1o4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqljLsK-cw
With the Big4 headed to the Draft, expect these 3 to be the faces of the new era of Nova's program. Big time talents.
Question for the board.....on paper, who's the most talented roster in the BE?
St. John’s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEv66vQ4Hqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD7NHinG1o4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqljLsK-cw
With the Big4 headed to the Draft, expect these 3 to be the faces of the new era of Nova's program. Big time talents.
Question for the board.....on paper, who's the most talented roster in the BE?
St. John’s
easily.
Agreed, bring on the field.
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The only reason Tom in Simsbury says that we are "easily" the best roster in the Big East is so he can attack Coach Mullin's coaching should we come in anywhere but first in the conference. He is a phony and a Chris Mullin hater.
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The only reason Tom in Simsbury says that we are "easily" the best roster in the Big East is so he can attack Coach Mullin's coaching should we come in anywhere but first in the conference. He is a phony and a Chris Mullin hater.
Incorrect.
I don't hate Mullin, just think he's a poor coach.
Big difference.
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You have no basis for thinking he is a bad coach. Jury is and should be still out.
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Javon Quinerly is the real deal and will probably be freshman of the year.
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You have no basis for thinking he is a bad coach. Jury is and should be still out.
Incorrect.
He doesn't recruit (85%) of the job and doesn't do the X's & O's (St. Jean's function).
Jury has returned.
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All good coaches delegate, and most recruiting for other successful head coaches is done by assistants. You really don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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You have no basis for thinking he is a bad coach. Jury is and should be still out.
He's 12-42 in conference for his career. I'd say that would be enough for a jury to convict him as a terrible coach. We'll see this year though. He has no excuses. Matt A has assembled a great roster (no thanks to him) for him to work with. If he disappoints he should be given his walking papers.
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You have no basis for thinking he is a bad coach. Jury is and should be still out.
He's 12-42 in conference for his career. I'd say that would be enough for a jury to convict him as a terrible coach. We'll see this year though. He has no excuses. Matt A has assembled a great roster (no thanks to him) for him to work with. If he disappoints he should be given his walking papers.
Some believed David Koresh to be god. Why can’t Chris Mullins be a good coach?
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You have no basis for thinking he is a bad coach. Jury is and should be still out.
He's 12-42 in conference for his career. I'd say that would be enough for a jury to convict him as a terrible coach. We'll see this year though. He has no excuses. Matt A has assembled a great roster (no thanks to him) for him to work with. If he disappoints he should be given his walking papers.
Some believed David Koresh to be god. Why can’t Chris Mullins be a good coach?
You've been hating the guy for 3 years now, you should at least know his name
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You have no basis for thinking he is a bad coach. Jury is and should be still out.
He's 12-42 in conference for his career. I'd say that would be enough for a jury to convict him as a terrible coach. We'll see this year though. He has no excuses. Matt A has assembled a great roster (no thanks to him) for him to work with. If he disappoints he should be given his walking papers.
Some believed David Koresh to be god. Why can’t Chris Mullins be a good coach?
You've been hating the guy for 3 years now, you should at least know his name
I know his name
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David Koresh, really. You are such an a rear of a donkey.
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David Koresh, really. You are such an a rear of a donkey.
Only somewhat joking. Some of you guys are crazy.
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David Koresh, really. You are such an a rear of a donkey.
Only somewhat joking. Some of you guys are crazy.
You graduated from college. Anything's possible.
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David Koresh, really. You are such an a rear of a donkey.
Only somewhat joking. Some of you guys are crazy.
You graduated from college. Anything's possible.
Expected more. Disappointed 😔
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You have no basis for thinking he is a bad coach. Jury is and should be still out.
Incorrect.
He doesn't recruit (85%) of the job and doesn't do the X's & O's (St. Jean's function).
Jury has returned.
To be fair Mullin is probably not a good coach but has the potential to be. Hard to have your first coaching gig in Big East.
I think he's gotten better as has roster. This year will be telling.
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This season will be able to tell us if Mullin can coach at this level. To be honest, he hasn't had the roster yet for anyone to make any conclusions about his coaching capabilities. Hard to coach with one big man and no bench.
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Hard to win with one big man and no bench. You can still coach.
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You have no basis for thinking he is a bad coach. Jury is and should be still out.
Incorrect.
He doesn't recruit (85%) of the job and doesn't do the X's & O's (St. Jean's function).
Jury has returned.
To be fair Mullin is probably not a good coach but has the potential to be. Hard to have your first coaching gig in Big East.
I think he's gotten better as has roster. This year will be telling.
Mullin will have better players, especially if Heron is eligible to play, however, it is still alarming to see so many kids leave the program before improving. I think we'll learn more from the freshman and their development than anyone else. He has to be able to show that this staff can teach basketball.
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This season will be able to tell us if Mullin can coach at this level. To be honest, he hasn't had the roster yet for anyone to make any conclusions about his coaching capabilities. Hard to coach with one big man and no bench.
This.
Mullin did as well as anyone could have last year after Lovett went down and left us with one ball-handler. If this team goes small with Simon and Clark at the 4 and 5 they can be very dangerous. If Mullin can't see the writing on the wall to play small then it will likely never happen for him as a coach here. I am optimistic. I think Simon possesses All-American potential at the four.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/1007658556575739904
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Kentucky just picked up highly coveted Stanford grad transfer big Travis Reid, who was down to Nova and UK. Once Saddiq Bey commited to Nova last week it was obvious that they weren't getting Reid. In relation to our matchup with them next year, this works to our benefit. I'll take our thin, inexperienced frontline against Nova freshmen over a grad transfer big who averaged nearly 20/9 last season all day long.
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This would be tremendous, Big12 is littered with historic venues:
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The Big East and Big 12 are planning an annual "challenge" between the two leagues, per multiple sources. Event is likely to begin during the 19-20 season and could be finalized by next month.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1028720019578994690
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https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2018/08/29/seton-hall-basketball-mike-nzei/1130777002/
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https://www.app.com/story/sports/college/2018/08/29/seton-hall-basketball-mike-nzei/1130777002/
great story....
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Creighton's resources are ridiculous, they have their own volleyball facility for crying out loud:
https://twitter.com/mjdemarinis/status/1042132313348497409
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Creighton's resources are ridiculous, they have their own volleyball facility for crying out loud:
https://twitter.com/mjdemarinis/status/1042132313348497409
No our facilities are ridiculous.
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What does Creighton have in terms of alumni, money and national following that SJU doesn't have? These types of things always make me wonder why St. John's can't have big-time facilities. Is it a mindset or a financial commitment or both?
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Creighton B.B. is the only show in town. So they draw a lot of fans. NYers have plenty of entertainment options.
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Creighton B.B. is the only show in town. So they draw a lot of fans. NYers have plenty of entertainment options.
True on the fan support. However I still don't think that fully explains the lack of better facilities. I think it's also an institutional mindset and decision.
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What does Creighton have in terms of alumni, money and national following that SJU doesn't have? These types of things always make me wonder why St. John's can't have big-time facilities. Is it a mindset or a financial commitment or both?
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Cost of construction. NYC unions make facilities like that prohibitive. Laborers are paid $40 an hour. Nebraska is a right to work state.
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Tafner is nice. Practice facilities are more then adequate. Good team equals fans at MSG. Why should we waste money on alumni hall?
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Tafner is nice. Practice facilities are more then adequate. Good team equals fans at MSG. Why should we waste money on alumni hall?
+1,000,000. Carnesecca is a dump. MSG is one of the few selling points we have recruiting wise. Why Goff wanted less games at MSG is beyond me.
As far as Creighton goes I think them being the only show in town leads to them having tremendous fan support. I remember when they had Doug McDermott and their fans completely took over MSG for the entire weekend of the Big East Tournament.
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What's different, Booth said, is "everything. We don't have a lot of veterans, so the drills we used to do that everybody knew, we've got to teach some new things, how we do things, technique, and how we defend."
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Is there a general assessment of Villanova's freshmen on the defensive side?
"Yeah, poor,'' Wright said. "It's poor."
Average poor?
"Yeah, average poor,'' Wright said. "It's like any high school kid coming in as a freshman, but they do pick up the concepts really quickly. That's something I like. And they're very open to learning. They don't look at it like, I'm a high school scorer — I don't have to learn this."
http://www2.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/philadelphia-city-six-basketball-villanova-temple-st-josephs-la-salle-drexel-penn-20180927.html?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar
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Nova, X, Hall all take steps back this year in my opinion. Hoyas, Johnnies, Marquette take their spots.
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What's different, Booth said, is "everything. We don't have a lot of veterans, so the drills we used to do that everybody knew, we've got to teach some new things, how we do things, technique, and how we defend."
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Is there a general assessment of Villanova's freshmen on the defensive side?
"Yeah, poor,'' Wright said. "It's poor."
Average poor?
"Yeah, average poor,'' Wright said. "It's like any high school kid coming in as a freshman, but they do pick up the concepts really quickly. That's something I like. And they're very open to learning. They don't look at it like, I'm a high school scorer — I don't have to learn this."
http://www2.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/philadelphia-city-six-basketball-villanova-temple-st-josephs-la-salle-drexel-penn-20180927.html?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar
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Nova, X, Hall all take steps back this year in my opinion. Hoyas, Johnnies, Marquette take their spots.
Man what a sucker at least as far as Nova is concerned. After listening to Nick Saban interviewed you would probably pick Louisiana-Layfayette to beat Bama outright even as a 49 point underdog. Ever hear of coach speak? Just a coach downplaying expectations and trying to take pressure off his players as a defending champ with still high expectations.
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What's different, Booth said, is "everything. We don't have a lot of veterans, so the drills we used to do that everybody knew, we've got to teach some new things, how we do things, technique, and how we defend."
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Is there a general assessment of Villanova's freshmen on the defensive side?
"Yeah, poor,'' Wright said. "It's poor."
Average poor?
"Yeah, average poor,'' Wright said. "It's like any high school kid coming in as a freshman, but they do pick up the concepts really quickly. That's something I like. And they're very open to learning. They don't look at it like, I'm a high school scorer — I don't have to learn this."
http://www2.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/philadelphia-city-six-basketball-villanova-temple-st-josephs-la-salle-drexel-penn-20180927.html?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar
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Nova, X, Hall all take steps back this year in my opinion. Hoyas, Johnnies, Marquette take their spots.
Man what a sucker at least as far as Nova is concerned. After listening to Nick Saban interviewed you would probably pick Louisiana-Layfayette to beat Bama outright even as a 49 point underdog. Ever hear of coach speak? Just a coach downplaying expectations and trying to take pressure off his players as a defending champ with still high expectations.
Nah I think we take it to Nova this year, I like JQ and Slater- let's talk in March.
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Creighton accused of offering Brian Bowen $100,000 and his father a very lucrative job:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-corruption-trial-brian-bowens-father-makes-explosive-allegations-against-several-schools/amp/
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Creighton accused of offering Brian Bowen $100,000 and his father a very lucrative job:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-corruption-trial-brian-bowens-father-makes-explosive-allegations-against-several-schools/amp/
Say it ain't so Doug McDermott's father.
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DePaul and Creighton both sweating out Bowen Sr.'s testimony today:
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Bowen testified that the offer involving Creighton included $100000 and two "high paying jobs" for he and his longtime girlfriend. Defense asked if both were over $100000 per year and Bowen said could recall exactly.
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Bowen testified while his son played for the Mean Streets AAU team he received $5000 from former NFL player Ty Streets and $1500 from coach Tim Anderson, who is now with DePaul
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‘As I recall, yes.’
Anderson and Heirman are now both DePaul assistants.
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Crisis averted- for now:
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The DePaul assistants were not DePaul assistants when then allegedly paid Bowen Sr. - nor were they paying him on behalf of DePaul nor were they paying him in order for his son to attend DePaul.
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Delany said #B1G has talked with Madison Square Garden about the future. "We’re presented them with a powerful emotional plan. We think we can elevate Madison Square Garden to the next level with regard to the postseason. We will not play early."
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Delany said #B1G has talked with Madison Square Garden about the future. "We’re presented them with a powerful emotional plan. We think we can elevate Madison Square Garden to the next level with regard to the postseason. We will not play early."
No way can they elevate the tournament over the Big East. Each team gets a certain amount of tix and Rutgers fans won't travel when they suck. Nebraska doesn't travel well in spite of its home attendance and Northwestern, Minnesota, and Penn State won't come close to using their share of tix.
If it is make or break let's add Dayton (#33 in attendance and top 20 traveling fan bases) and Gonzaga or Wichita St. and keep it in NY.
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Delany said #B1G has talked with Madison Square Garden about the future. "We’re presented them with a powerful emotional plan. We think we can elevate Madison Square Garden to the next level with regard to the postseason. We will not play early."
No way can they elevate the tournament over the Big East. Each team gets a certain amount of tix and Rutgers fans won't travel when they suck. Nebraska doesn't travel well in spite of its home attendance and Northwestern, Minnesota, and Penn State won't come close to using their share of tix.
If it is make or break let's add Dayton (#33 in attendance and top 20 traveling fan bases) and Gonzaga or Wichita St. and keep it in NY.
Ohio state, Michigan, Michigan state, Indiana, Wisconsin travel plenty .
We need to add UCONN. Not Dayton
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Delany said #B1G has talked with Madison Square Garden about the future. "We’re presented them with a powerful emotional plan. We think we can elevate Madison Square Garden to the next level with regard to the postseason. We will not play early."
No way can they elevate the tournament over the Big East. Each team gets a certain amount of tix and Rutgers fans won't travel when they suck. Nebraska doesn't travel well in spite of its home attendance and Northwestern, Minnesota, and Penn State won't come close to using their share of tix.
If it is make or break let's add Dayton (#33 in attendance and top 20 traveling fan bases) and Gonzaga or Wichita St. and keep it in NY.
Ohio state, Michigan, Michigan state, Indiana, Wisconsin travel plenty .
We need to add UCONN. Not Dayton
https://uconnhuskies.com/index.aspx?path=football
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Some iconic venues possible, great news for the conference. You would hope that Cragg has some influence in scheduling a marquee Big12 opponent at the Garden and taking the brand on the road throughout this contract:
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Source: The Big East and Big 12 have officially agreed to an annual "challenge" between the two conferences, starting during the 19-20 season. Official announcement expected soon.
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DePaul coach Dave Leitao and athletic director Jean Lenti Ponsetto get orders of protection against former assistant coach:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-depaul-dave-leitao-jean-lenti-ponsetto-protection-20181017-story.html
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Steele's 2019 class is off the charts for someone with zero head coaching experience. Dominating his backyard with this Northern Kentucky commit-
https://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/big-east-recruiting/2018/10/23/18014752/xavier-musketeers-2019-recruiting-kyky-tandy-commits
"As it was mentioned before, Xavier’s class is now up to five players in 2019. Tandy joins the aforementioned Dieonte Miles as well as three other four-star players. Those players include Dahmir Bishop, Daniel Ramsey and Zach Freemantle. Once the score goes through, Xavier will jump from 15th to 10th in the nation in the 2019 recruiting rankings. They will remain second in the Big East behind the vaunted Villanova Wildcats."
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GREAT read-
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/the-big-easts-elite-status-should-no-longer-be-questioned-as-villanova-reloads-and-preps-for-another-final-four-run/
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Seton hall beats BC by 14. Doesn’t mean anything. Just a scrimmage
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that is correct
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Why is it that Wright rings in the new year w Mike every year and not Mullin, idk about you, this is minor, but it just irks me:
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Today: @VUCoachJWright joins @MikeFrancesa on @mikeson ..
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Phil Booth is a problem
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Why is it that Wright rings in the new year w Mike every year and not Mullin, idk about you, this is minor, but it just irks me:
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Probably bc they won the championship
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How in the world does FOX schedule the rematch of last year's National Championship game at 6ET tomorrow night?
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How in the world does FOX schedule the rematch of last year's National Championship game at 6ET tomorrow night?
Agree it makes no sense. But the earlier times are easier for me. I like it
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Nova getting taken to the woodshed by Michigan, at Nova. 52-25 2nd half.
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Nova getting taken to the woodshed by Michigan, at Nova. 52-25 2nd half.
In fairness to nova and jay wright. If I didn’t bet them. They would probably be winning
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In fairness to nova and jay wright. If I didn’t bet them. They would probably be winning
Mush.
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Rough night for the Big East.
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Seton Hall looks awful, and they’re playing hard, too. That could be this year’s last place team.
I hope that every Seton Hall fan is truly suffering right now so much so that even the vile stench of their home state is masked by the despair that they are feeling.
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Rough night for the Big East.
Possibly worst ever in one of these conference vs conference series. Now 0 and 4 in BE/Big 10 match ups. doesn't help league in postseason NCAA numbers
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Possibly worst ever in one of these conference vs conference series. Now 0 and 4 in BE/Big 10 match ups. doesn't help league in postseason NCAA numbers
1-4. Gtown beat Illinois
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BE looks to be wayyy down this year based off the Big Ten challenge. If the Johnnies don't finish above .500 in conference this year, they never will under the current regime.
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Creighton down 12 at half to Ohio State. Could be another bloody night.
Chris Holtmann is pretty good
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Creighton down 12 at half to Ohio State. Could be another bloody night.
Chris Holtmann is pretty good
Don’t worry. We have DePaul going late.
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Creighton down 12 at half to Ohio State. Could be another bloody night.
Chris Holtmann is pretty good
Creighton made a big comeback to grab a 4 point lead but OSU finished the game on a 13-0 run to win by 9. Yikes
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Creighton made a big comeback to grab a 4 point lead but OSU finished the game on a 13-0 run to win by 9. Yikes
Really good well coached game
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Mike Dunlap and Loyola Marymount about to beat Georgetown in Jamaica.
So it's us, DePaul and a team that just lost to Loyola as the only teams in the league to pick up a win against the B10
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Villanova going to OT against Furman. And they're lucky to be doing so
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Creighton made a big comeback to grab a 4 point lead but OSU finished the game on a 13-0 run to win by 9. Yikes
Against Doug McDermott's father no less, the only coach in the BE I'd trade Mully for.
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Villanova loses to Furman. There may not be a Big East team in the top 25 come Monday
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Villanova loses to Furman. There may not be a Big East team in the top 25 come Monday
Also interesting to note that 5 star PG Jahvon Quinerly was a DNP-CD for Villanova today. Interesting to see how that situation shakes out over the course of the year
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Also interesting to note that 5 star PG Jahvon Quinerly was a DNP-CD for Villanova today. Interesting to see how that situation shakes out over the course of the year
We're going to sweep Nova. JQ sitting amidst this week of embarrassment speaks volumes, something has to pop.
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Nova will still be ranked. No Syracuse will be ranked. Oregon might not be ranked either. I think it’s safe to expect Iowa to enter the top 25. If we win two at Barclays we have a good chance next Sunday
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Nova will still be ranked. No Syracuse will be ranked. Oregon might not be ranked either. I think it’s safe to expect Iowa to enter the top 25. If we win two at Barclays we have a good chance next Sunday
Can't imagine a 2-2 Nova team still being ranked after being embarrassed by Michigan then losing to Furman but I suppose crazier things have happened
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Against Doug McDermott's father no less, the only coach in the BE I'd trade Mully for.
Almost pooped myself before the toilet. Assumed u were fxcking around
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Nova will still be ranked. No Syracuse will be ranked. Oregon might not be ranked either. I think it’s safe to expect Iowa to enter the top 25. If we win two at Barclays we have a good chance next Sunday
You're crazy Poison, Nova will be ranked in the 30's. Hall losing to A10 favorite, loaded StL. This is our year to strike.
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Nova loses back to back games for the first time in 6 seasons. Wow.
Furman has now beaten 2 of last season's Final Four teams in the last 8 days. Good for them.
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Seton Hall loses at home to St Louis in an ugly game
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A lot of great x and o coaches took the L today
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You're crazy Poison, Nova will be ranked in the 30's. Hall losing to A10 favorite, loaded StL. This is our year to strike.
I prefer slightly unhinged to crazy.
Nova as the defending champs will get the benefit of the doubt. I see them falling, but to something like 23.
Seton Hall looks like a mid Major this season. We should beat them twice.
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What’s up with Nova’s freshman point guard? He didn’t play.
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Georgetown survives in OT against a bad USF team.
The Big East straight up stinks this year
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What’s up with Nova’s freshman point guard? He didn’t play.
Matt A calling on line 1!
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No BE teams in the top 25
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Xavier headed to OT with 8 ranked Auburn in Maui
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Butler drops their opener in Atlantis to Dayton. Meanwhile Creighton trying to finish off 16th ranked Clemson while Marquette was up 8 at half but Kansas started the 2nd half on 22-0 run
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Butler drops their opener in Atlantis to Dayton. Meanwhile Creighton trying to finish off 16th ranked Clemson while Marquette was up 8 at half but Kansas started the 2nd half on 22-0 run
Would you rather be 5-0 like St. John's or 3-2 like Marquette. They are about to play themselves out of a tournament bid if they don't steal some games.
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Would you rather be 5-0 like St. John's or 3-2 like Marquette. They are about to play themselves out of a tournament bid if they don't steal some games.
I'd rather have Marquette's schedule obviously. Their losses are @ Indiana and neutral to Kansas. Those losses won't hurt them at all. We won a 50/50 game vs VCU where one made or miss FT here or there or the refs calling that foul at the end could have flipped it to an L that would hurt us. A loss to Cal could have killed us. A loss to GT will hurt.
Marquette still plays Louisville tomorrow, then Kansas State, Wisconsin and Buffalo. That's 6 total chances for them to pick up quality wins in the non conference compared to our 1. If they go 2-4 in those games and our only L is Duke, we are probably sitting in a similar position to them NCAA Tournament-wise heading into Big East play.
If scheduling nothing but likely Ws and avoiding playing games you might lose was the smart strategy then every major conference team would do it and there wouldn't be any good college basketball games until January. Maui, Atlantis, Preseason NIT and Advocare wouldn't be as stacked as they are every year.
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I'd rather have Marquette's schedule obviously. Their losses are @ Indiana and neutral to Kansas. Those losses won't hurt them at all. We won a 50/50 game vs VCU where one made or miss FT here or there or the refs calling that foul at the end could have flipped it to an L that would hurt us. A loss to Cal could have killed us. A loss to GT will hurt.
Marquette still plays Louisville tomorrow, then Kansas State, Wisconsin and Buffalo. That's 6 total chances for them to pick up quality wins in the non conference compared to our 1. If they go 2-4 in those games and our only L is Duke, we are probably sitting in a similar position to them NCAA Tournament-wise heading into Big East play.
If scheduling nothing but likely Ws and avoiding playing games you might lose was the smart strategy then every major conference team would do it and there wouldn't be any good college basketball games until January. Maui, Atlantis, Preseason NIT and Advocare wouldn't be as stacked as they are every year.
You continue to write phrases like "those losses won't hurt them" (which isn't exactly true, as it blemishes their record) but you fail to understand that is doesn't really help them either.
No team has ever received an automatic bid with less than 16 wins--so clearly wins matter a lot. Hundreds of teams have missed the tournament with top a 25 SoS over the last few decades.
It's a balance between wins and good competition. Nobody is saying to schedule all cupcakes, but I'd rather go 11-0 against cupcakes than have our dicks kicked in by teams like Kansas 11 times.
The 20th best team in the country could lose to the best twelve teams by one point each and not have a chance at the tournament.
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You continue to write phrases like "those losses won't hurt them" (which isn't exactly true, as it blemishes their record) but you fail to understand that is doesn't really help them either.
No team has ever received an automatic bid with less than 16 wins--so clearly wins matter a lot. Hundreds of teams have missed the tournament with top a 25 SoS over the last few decades.
It's a balance between wins and good competition. Nobody is saying to schedule all cupcakes, but I'd rather go 11-0 against cupcakes than have our dicks kicked in by teams like Kansas 11 times.
The 20th best team in the country could lose to the best twelve teams by one point each and not have a chance at the tournament.
Yeah, I'm not asking to play 13 top 25 teams in our OOC. Not by a long shot. But Marquette actually has pretty close to a perfect schedule. 6 of their 13 games are against teams where wins move the needle and losses don't really hurt. We only play 1 of those games.
Last year at this time Butler was 3-2 in the non conference. They lost @ Maryland and neutral to Texas. They later lost a neutral game to Purdue. They also beat Ohio State and Utah for a 10-3 OOC record. They went 10-10 in the BE + BET. They made the tourney as a 10 seed and didn't have to sweat on Selection Sunday.
If they had played only 1 good OOC game and went 12-1 instead, they probably would have been closer to the bubble than they were.
Penn State had 21 wins after the B10 tournament. They won 11 B10 games. But their schedule sucked and their best OOC win was over Montana. They weren't even really in consideration on Selection Sunday
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Marquette actually has pretty close to a perfect schedule.
Marquette's 3-2. They've beaten the Presbyterian Blue Hose, the Bethune Cook Wildcats, and the U of Maryland Baltimore Golden Retrievers and lost to unranked Indiana and #2 Kansas. IOW they've beaten no one and lost to everyone. Would you prefer that SJU was 3-2 with that schedule or 5-0 with SJ's schedule.
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Marquette's 3-2. They've beaten the Presbyterian Blue Hose, the Bethune Cook Wildcats, and the U of Maryland Baltimore Golden Retrievers and lost to unranked Indiana and #2 Kansas. IOW they've beaten no one and lost to everyone. Would you prefer that SJU was 3-2 with that schedule or 5-0 with SJ's schedule.
You're only looking at the game that have been played to this point. If you look at the overall schedule, it's not even close that Marquette has the far better schedule. Of their 13 OOC games, they have 7 gimme wins, 3 toss ups that would be considered good wins, 1 should win that would be solid, and 2 likely losses where they are essentially freerolling. That's pretty perfect. Them beating Buffalo would be a better win than any of our first 12 games. And that's their 5th or 6th toughest game.
On KenPom, which everybody including the committee looks at now, we dropped 5 spots since beating Cal + VCU. Marquette moved up 1 in their loss to Kansas.
Again, these coaches and ADs have their jobs on the line depending on their program's success, almost all of that revolves around making the NCAA Tournament for major conference teams. If the easiest way to ensure success was to load up on easy wins then everybody would do it. These guys wouldn't be risking their jobs by scheduling good teams if that wasn't the optimal strategy.
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You're only looking at the game that have been played to this point. If you look at the overall schedule, it's not even close that Marquette has the far better schedule. Of their 13 OOC games, they have 7 gimme wins, 3 toss ups that would be considered good wins, 1 should win that would be solid, and 2 likely losses where they are essentially freerolling. That's pretty perfect. Them beating Buffalo would be a better win than any of our first 12 games. And that's their 5th or 6th toughest game.
On KenPom, which everybody including the committee looks at now, we dropped 5 spots since beating Cal + VCU. Marquette moved up 1 in their loss to Kansas.
Again, these coaches and ADs have their jobs on the line depending on their program's success, almost all of that revolves around making the NCAA Tournament for major conference teams. If the easiest way to ensure success was to load up on easy wins then everybody would do it. These guys wouldn't be risking their jobs by scheduling good teams if that wasn't the optimal strategy.
Yes I'm only looking at the games that have been played thus far because I can't see into the future and yes MU has a better schedule, I'm not denying that and maybe SJ schedule stinks, I'm not denying that either but I can't help but notice that with all that typing you did you avoided answering a simple question.
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The year is 2058, Johnny Jungle is still talking about the scheduling of the 2018-19 season.
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Yes I'm only looking at the games that have been played thus far because I can't see into the future and yes MU has a better schedule, I'm not denying that and maybe SJ schedule stinks, I'm not denying that either but I can't help but notice that with all that typing you did you avoided answering a simple question.
I'd rather be 3-2 with Marquette's schedule than 5-0 with ours. We will likely need to have 3-4 more wins than them to be in a better position on selection sunday
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I'd rather be 3-2 with Marquette's schedule than 5-0 with ours. We will likely need to have 3-4 more wins than them to be in a better position on selection sunday
Okay then, 3D chess it is. I'd rather win games than lose them.
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Okay then, 3D chess it is. I'd rather win games than lose them.
I wonder if there’s still time to back out of the Duke game and play St Francis that day instead
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The year is 2058, Johnny Jungle is still talking about the scheduling of the 2018-19 season.
And you are 20 years post-op from your sex change, prefer to be refered to as gender queer, and continue to bless the board with sunshine and snowflakes.
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I'd rather be 3-2 with Marquette's schedule than 5-0 with ours. We will likely need to have 3-4 more wins than them to be in a better position on selection sunday
Wow.
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And you are 20 years post-op from your sex change, prefer to be refered to as gender queer, and continue to bless the board with sunshine and snowflakes.
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I wonder if there’s still time to back out of the Duke game and play St Francis that day instead
Honest question, not my usual snarky BS.
Assuming that you could have made the schedule in an ideal world: how many losses do you think it would benefit SJ to have going into conference play?
Marquette's remaining "perfect" OOC schedule comprises four quite loseable good home losses against Louisville, K St, Wisconsin and Buffalo (the latter three ranked) and four pretty much garbage wins against Charleston, UTEP, North Dakota, and Southern. All eight games are at home and they should be favored in each. If they split the four good loss games (obviously they could win all four) and sweep the garbage that makes them carry the one 9-4 going into conference play, having played one road game, a loss, and having lost three at home, and having two quality wins and three good losses. They'd have 18 conference games left, meaning they need to go 11-7 to win 20. Is that about where you'd like SJ to be? Having lost half as many games as they've won and having to win twice as many as they lose to win 20? That is, IOW, with 2/3's of their wins comprising garbage, and a couple of quality wins and a couple of quality losses and one road game out of 13?
I'd rather be 13-0 or 12-1, where .500 ish in conference (and if they go .500 in conference what difference does it make if they make the tournament, they'll get bounced in the first round) and a BE tournament win gives them 23 or 24 wins in one of the top three conferences in the country.
PS Marquette is currently 35th at KenPom and SJU is currently 44th, shirley that must be a mistake.
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Assuming that you could have made the schedule in an ideal world: how many losses do you think it would benefit SJ to have going into conference play?
The point is not having a certain amount of losses, it's about having opportunities to pick up good wins. When scheduling games where you can pick up good wins, that usually means those are against teams that can beat you. Losses to Kansas, @Indiana and Wisconsin won't hurt you, but beating them would definitely help beyond just adding a 1 to the W column. Losses to Cal, VCU, Georgia Tech would hurt, and those wins are pretty much only adding a number before the dash.
Marquette's remaining "perfect" OOC schedule comprises four quite loseable good home losses against Louisville, K St, Wisconsin and Buffalo (the latter three ranked) and four pretty much garbage wins against Charleston, UTEP, North Dakota, and Southern. All eight games are at home and they should be favored in each. If they split the four good loss games (obviously they could win all four) and sweep the garbage that makes them carry the one 9-4 going into conference play, having played one road game, a loss, and having lost three at home, and having two quality wins and three good losses. They'd have 18 conference games left, meaning they need to go 11-7 to win 20. Is that about where you'd like SJ to be? Having lost half as many games as they've won and having to win twice as many as they lose to win 20? That is, IOW, with 2/3's of their wins comprising garbage, and a couple of quality wins and a couple of quality losses and one road game out of 13?
Yes, Marquette pretty much has 7 slam-dunk wins on their schedule. That's probably a good number. The other 6 games range from 2 likely losses which are essentially freerolls (Kansas, @Indiana), 2 true toss ups (Wisconsin + Kansas State at home) and 2 small favorites (Louisville neutral, Buffalo home).
If you go 3-3 in those 6 games, that's not great, but still pretty good. Even 2-4 isn't a backbreaker by any stretch of the imagination. Any worse and you're probably not good enough to achieve anything anyway.
Compare that to our schedule. We have 1 likely loss (@Duke), 0 true toss ups, 1 small favorite (@Rutgers), 2 moderate favorite (VCU + Georgia Tech) and 9 slam-dunk wins.
Marquette pretty much has 6 chances to pick up wins better than any of ours. So even if they go 2-4, those 2 wins are better than any of ours.
I'd rather be 13-0 or 12-1, where .500 ish in conference (and if they go .500 in conference what difference does it make if they make the tournament, they'll get bounced in the first round) and a BE tournament win gives them 23 or 24 wins in one of the top three conferences in the country.
Let's assume we go 12-1 and Marquette goes 10-3 in OOC. If both teams then go 10-10 in the BE regular season + tournament, they would be in a better spot than we are in terms of the NCAA Tournament, probably by a solid amount.
Marquette also has margin for error where we don't. Anything worse than 12-1 for us hurts because those would then be bad losses. If we go 10-3 in OOC we'd need to win 12-13 BE games at least to re-enter the NCAA Tournament conversation. Marquette just has to go .500 in the BE with a 10-3 OOC record.
Also, while the BE was certainly a top 3 conference the past few years, that just isn't the case this year. The ACC, B10 and SEC are solidly ahead of the BE this year. The league is down this year. That's another reason why the weak OOC schedule especially hurts this year.
PS Marquette is currently 35th at KenPom and SJU is currently 44th, shirley that must be a mistake.
Doesn't this kind of prove my point? We are 5-0, they are 3-2 and yet they are ranked higher.
My entire point is that this is by far the best SJU roster since Ron Artest was named Ron Artest. If the goal and expectation for this team is to be an 9 seed and either lose in the first round or win and then get throttled by the 1 seed, then this schedule is fine. We also may as well move to the NEC as we'll never achieve anything worthwhile again if that's all we're shooting for this year. The goal for this team should be a 4-5 seed and a Sweet 16. It will be much more difficult to achieve that if you don't have any good non-conference wins.
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The point is not having a certain amount of losses, it's about having opportunities to pick up good wins. When scheduling games where you can pick up good wins, that usually means those are against teams that can beat you. Losses to Kansas, @Indiana and Wisconsin won't hurt you, but beating them would definitely help beyond just adding a 1 to the W column. Losses to Cal, VCU, Georgia Tech would hurt, and those wins are pretty much only adding a number before the dash.
Okay, but SJ didn't lose any of those games and Marquette hasn't won any of those games. Let's reconvene in a month. Because if SJ is 13-0 at the end of December and Marquette is 6-7, I don't care who they nearly beat.
Yes, Marquette pretty much has 7 slam-dunk wins on their schedule. That's probably a good number. The other 6 games range from 2 likely losses which are essentially freerolls (Kansas, @Indiana), 2 true toss ups (Wisconsin + Kansas State at home) and 2 small favorites (Louisville neutral, Buffalo home).
If you go 3-3 in those 6 games, that's not great, but still pretty good. Even 2-4 isn't a backbreaker by any stretch of the imagination. Any worse and you're probably not good enough to achieve anything anyway.
Compare that to our schedule. We have 1 likely loss (@Duke), 0 true toss ups, 1 small favorite (@Rutgers), 2 moderate favorite (VCU + Georgia Tech) and 9 slam-dunk wins.
Probably not good enough to achieve anything is exactly right, no matter who you're talking about. You have to beat the teams you play to achieve anything. If SJ is not good enough to beat the OOC teams they play and is not good enough work their way to the top of the conference, I don't care what their seed is. They're one and out.
Marquette pretty much has 6 chances to pick up wins better than any of ours. So even if they go 2-4, those 2 wins are better than any of ours.
I don't understand a universe where 2-4 is better than 6-0. I just don't.
Let's assume we go 12-1 and Marquette goes 10-3 in OOC. If both teams then go 10-10 in the BE regular season + tournament, they would be in a better spot than we are in terms of the NCAA Tournament, probably by a solid amount.
Marquette also has margin for error where we don't. Anything worse than 12-1 for us hurts because those would then be bad losses. If we go 10-3 in OOC we'd need to win 12-13 BE games at least to re-enter the NCAA Tournament conversation. Marquette just has to go .500 in the BE with a 10-3 OOC record.
Also, while the BE was certainly a top 3 conference the past few years, that just isn't the case this year. The ACC, B10 and SEC are solidly ahead of the BE this year. The league is down this year. That's another reason why the weak OOC schedule especially hurts this year.
This paragraph essentially can be distilled to: assume MU is a better BB team than SJ and assume that MU has a better season than SJ, then wouldn't MU get a more favorable seed in the NCAA tournament than SJ. Well, yes, and they'd deserve it. Whereas if SJ runs the table OOC and is 14-6 in the BE, they're a 4 seed and if MU is 7-10 in the BE they're in the NIT. Again, reconvene.
PS Marquette is currently 35th at KenPom and SJU is currently 44th, shirley that must be a mistake.
Doesn't this kind of prove my point? We are 5-0, they are 3-2 and yet they are ranked higher.
No, I kind of think it proves my point, to the extent that I have one. Marquette has a "perfect" schedule, and they're 8 ranks, which I think translates to ~ 5 percent higher than SJU, which allegedly has the worst schedule in the history of college BB. If what you say is true SJ should be layers below Marquette.
My entire point is that this is by far the best SJU roster since Ron Artest was named Ron Artest. If the goal and expectation for this team is to be an 9 seed and either lose in the first round or win and then get throttled by the 1 seed, then this schedule is fine. We also may as well move to the NEC as we'll never achieve anything worthwhile again if that's all we're shooting for this year. The goal for this team should be a 4-5 seed and a Sweet 16. It will be much more difficult to achieve that if you don't have any good non-conference wins.
And my entire point is that winning is better than losing. I'd rather win a bunch of games vs the top 10 than the bottom 200, but that's not what the gods have foretold. There are games scheduled, I'd ike to win them. You, evidently, wish there were games that were not scheduled that they would have lost. To the extent that I can understand that - which I cannot understand, except to the extent that you wish things were different - the only answer is they aren't. So I hope that SJ wins all the games they play and hope they don't lose any of them,
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In my hypothetical situation I had SJU as having a better record than Marquette, yet the assumption you took from it is that Marquette is the better team.
I don’t know if Marquette is a better team than us. Maybe they are, maybe they aren’t, but if it was possible that both teams are identical with the exact same goals/expectations then Marquette is the team that set themselves up for success through scheduling over us by leaps and bounds.
It’s easy to say “well if we played that schedue and lost some games obviously that’s not as good as going undefeated” but what about the flip side of that? If we go 12-1 in OOC and 11-9 in BE maybe we are a 6 or 7 seed. But if we had Marquette’s schedule whose to say we wouldn’t go 4-2 in those 6 tough games? If we did that with a 11-9 BE we’d be a 3 or 4 seed.
Yes, a lot of assumptions and hypotheticals and I’m pretty sure I even confused myself so my apologies if none of this made sense
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We will not miss the tournament due to SOS or any other advanced metric. We're not St. Mary's or Hofstra. It might affect our seeding. We can miss he tournament due to a lack of wins. We weren't good last year. Marquette was close to good. It's far more likely they make the jump than us.
Marquette came a very odd blown call goon going in its favor away from losing its third game to an unimpressive Louisville team tonight.
The mistake you make is assuming we'll be very good. We haven't even been okay yet under Mullin.
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We will not miss the tournament due to SOS or any other advanced metric. We're not St. Mary's or Hofstra. It might affect our seeding. We can miss he tournament due to a lack of wins. We weren't good last year. Marquette was close to good. It's far more likely they make the jump than us.
Marquette came a very odd blown call goon going in its favor away from losing its third game to an unimpressive Louisville team tonight.
The mistake you make is assuming we'll be very good. We haven't even been okay yet under Mullin.
Perhaps this is where the main disagreement lies. I believe this team has sweet 16 level talent, and therefore I think that is the goal. I'm not assuming they'll be that good but I'm hoping they will be because they certainly can be. Making the tournament as a 8-9-10 seed and being a one and done will be an underachievement for this roster IMO.
Yes, Marquette was an odd blown call away from losing to Louisville today. We were a missed call away from losing to VCU.
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In my hypothetical situation I had SJU as having a better record than Marquette, yet the assumption you took from it is that Marquette is the better team.
The assumption I took was yours: that Marquette's schedule gives them an advantage if they don't lose games they are projected to win, which is every game they have going into the BE. Which is probably correct: if they win their three games against ranked opponents and swallow their cupcakes they have an advantage over SJ, who has only cupcakes to devour. But again, I'd rather be 12-1 than 8-5 regardless of schedule.
That said, I think that floor slapping dope Wojo is more of a mediocrity as a coach than he was as a player. He's done less with more than any BE coach except JT3, who stunk, and Willard, who stinks and no longer has the luxury of recruiting against dopey Steve Lavin, who didn't think Desi Rodriguez and Khadeen Carrington were BE players. Shades of Mike Jarhead, who thought Quincy Douby stunk.
The bottom line is (in my not a all humble opinion) that if SJ doesn't shit the bed OOC and is in the top three or four in the conference they'll get a reasonable seed in March and have the potential to make a run. If they muck up their BE schedule it doesn't matter what they did in November or against whom and if they dominate in the BE it doesn't matter either. Metrics aside, they have to beat the teams they play and get better as they do so. Everything else is masturbation. Which I'm not opposed to, I have a PhD in that.
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We were a missed call away from losing to VCU.
Not really a missed call: more of an uncalled call. That shot was short when it left the shooter's hand. If I'd been on the other side of it - and I've been on the other side of a bunch of bad calls going back to Reggie Carter - I'd have whined, but I'd rather the players decide it than the referees.
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Not really a missed call: more of an uncalled call. That shot was short when it left the shooter's hand. If I'd been on the other side of it - and I've been on the other side of a bunch of bad calls going back to Reggie Carter - I'd have whined, but I'd rather the players decide it than the referees.
I agree and add that we could have easily lost that game several times. That only bolsters my claim that we should have avoided a more difficult schedule knowing what waits for us in the Big East. The home and home format makes it unlikely for good teams to do much better than 9-9. Even in a down year there are no gimmees.
I'm very happy the Duke game is later in the season. Marquette is a skilled and steady team. They will obviously get better like most teams but I don't see the same growth potential that we have. Nobody knows what to make of us--and for good reason.
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Perhaps this is where the main disagreement lies. I believe this team has sweet 16 level talent, and therefore I think that is the goal. I'm not assuming they'll be that good but I'm hoping they will be because they certainly can be. Making the tournament as a 8-9-10 seed and being a one and done will be an underachievement for this roster IMO.
Yes, Marquette was an odd blown call away from losing to Louisville today. We were a missed call away from losing to VCU.
Where we disagree is on when this team will be good. You assume we will progress as the same pace as other more steady programs. I think we will get there in February--if at all.
To me, the season hinges on how willingly and soon Simon accepts his manifest destiny of playing PF.
Next, we need to adopt an unrelenting rebounding style on offense.
The cherry on top is getting 15 mpg from Keita playing close to the basket.
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Where we disagree is on when this team will be good. You assume we will progress as the same pace as other more steady programs. I think we will get there in February--if at all.
To me, the season hinges on how willingly and soon Simon accepts his manifest destiny of playing PF.
Next, we need to adopt an unrelenting rebounding style on offense.
The cherry on top is getting 15 mpg from Keita playing close to the basket.
These areas of improvement you speak of is up to the staff to get them there by demanding they do it. What is your level of confidence the staff will be able to?
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Everything else is masturbation. Which I'm not opposed to, I have a PhD in that.
I thought your degree was in mass-debating
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These areas of improvement you speak of is up to the staff to get them there by demanding they do it. What is your level of confidence the staff will be able to?
I think #1 and #3 will happen. There is just no way any staff can ignore the difference in perimeter skill between Heron/Figueroa/Dixon and Simon. Fran repeatedly said he wouldn't even cover Simon outside the paint. If I was a coach I wouldn't either.
I'm hopeful for #2. The importance of offensive rebounding is one of the biggest differences in the college and NBA levels. It's so much more important in college where the skill level is much lower and a seasons can end in one game instead of a best of seven series. Any team can be off any given night.
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Let's see what Nova (FSU) and Hall (Miami) have in them today.
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Good opportunity for BE to gain some momentum back grom rough first week or so.
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Shamorie BE player of the week. Averaged 33.5-6-4-3 in BK.
We received 19 votes in the AP this afternoon, #34 overall. Nova back at #23, Creighton 65 votes.
Most importantly we're at #29 in the NCAA net rankings, the metric the committee will use to determine seeding in March.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings
https://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll
Conference is 43-15 overall, 4-1 against the ACC thus far, not too bad considering the start.
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Paging Goredmen! In the metric the NCAA will actually use we are #29 and Marquette the scheduling dynamos are #99!
I'm glad we got this settled early instead of arguing this silly scheduling matter all year. *offers hand shake and awaits emotional apology*
Zach B
St Johns ranked 29th in the NET rankings, the metric selection committee will now use. Higher than I expected. Seton Hall is 85. #sjubb #shbb
Big East NET rankings:
29. St. John's #sjubb
36. Creighton #RollJays
38. Villanova #NovaNation
45. Butler #Butler
76. Georgetown #HoyaSaxa
78. DePaul #dpubb
85. Seton Hall #shubb
99. Marquette #mubb
101. Xavier #LetsGoX
115. Providence #pcbb
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Paging Goredmen! In the metric the NCAA will actually use we are #29 and Marquette the scheduling dynamos are #99!
I'm glad we got this settled early instead of arguing this silly scheduling matter all year. *offers hand shake and awaits emotional apology*
Zach B
St Johns ranked 29th in the NET rankings, the metric selection committee will now use. Higher than I expected. Seton Hall is 85. #sjubb #shbb
Big East NET rankings:
29. St. John's #sjubb
36. Creighton #RollJays
38. Villanova #NovaNation
45. Butler #Butler
76. Georgetown #HoyaSaxa
78. DePaul #dpubb
85. Seton Hall #shubb
99. Marquette #mubb
101. Xavier #LetsGoX
115. Providence #pcbb
Ohio State is 1st. Loyola Marymount is 10th. I think we need to wait for some more data points before using this as a solid metric
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Ohio State is 1st. Loyola Marymount is 10th. I think we need to wait for some more data points before using this as a solid metric
What a cop out answer. Loyola is off to its best start in program history at 7-0 with a 13-pt win over Gtown and an 11-pt win @ UNLV. They've earned that #10 ranking thus far. As their SOS falls, so will their ranking.
Ohio St. is 6-0 and has beaten Creighton and Cincy in true road games.
St. John's is #6 in the RPI due to its strength of schedule thus far...exactly as I predicted. Sure that SOS will fall after the Ga Tech game, but we also have a game @Duke looming to clean up the weak schedule of games 8-12.
Obviously more data will change things. Marquette won't sit at #99 for long.
Can you at least admit you are surprised to see us ranked so high in RPI, SOS, and NET after five games?
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What a cop out answer. Loyola is off to its best start in program history at 7-0 with a 13-pt win over Gtown and an 11-pt win @ UNLV. They've earned that #10 ranking thus far. As their SOS falls, so will their ranking.
Ohio St. is 6-0 and has beaten Creighton and Cincy in true road games.
St. John's is #6 in the RPI due to its strength of schedule thus far...exactly as I predicted. Sure that SOS will fall after the Ga Tech game, but we also have a game @Duke looming to clean up the weak schedule of games 8-12.
Obviously more data will change things. Marquette won't sit at #99 for long.
Can you at least admit you are surprised to see us ranked so high in RPI, SOS, and NET after five games?
Come on man. Be realistic a little bit at least. Ohio State is a very good team. They are not #1.
Loyola Marymount is far better than anybody expected they would be this season. Still, they are closer to 100 than they are to 10. The fact that they are 10 just shows how silly this NET is this early in the season.
I can't say I was surprised by the NET or any other metric like that because I didn't even know it was being released this early. If the rankings were closer to normalized and didn't have Loyola 10th, Belmont 12th and Radford 22nd among other crazy rankings, I'd think it has merit at this point.
While your point has shifted from "the schedule isn't weak" to "the schedule is perfect because we need to play weak teams because we aren't good yet" back to "the schedule isn't weak", my point has remained consistent throughout: This schedule will hurt us in March regardless of what happens and everybody outside of the SJU bubble can see that.
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Come on man. Be realistic a little bit at least. Ohio State is a very good team. They are not #1.
Loyola Marymount is far better than anybody expected they would be this season. Still, they are closer to 100 than they are to 10. The fact that they are 10 just shows how silly this NET is this early in the season.
I can't say I was surprised by the NET or any other metric like that because I didn't even know it was being released this early. If the rankings were closer to normalized and didn't have Loyola 10th, Belmont 12th and Radford 22nd among other crazy rankings, I'd think it has merit at this point.
While your point has shifted from "the schedule isn't weak" to "the schedule is perfect because we need to play weak teams because we aren't good yet" back to "the schedule isn't weak", my point has remained consistent throughout: This schedule will hurt us in March regardless of what happens and everybody outside of the SJU bubble can see that.
My point hasn't shifted once in several months. It has always been that the schedule isn't weak (or strong) overall like you and many others claim, and that the schedule we have is damn near perfect for who we are as a team to begin the year. Find any evidence of
suggesting this schedule is not a great fit for us. You can't.
The first five games of our schedule were very strong. Ga Tech can carry this upcoming cupcake to game 7 remaining a tough schedule. Games 8-12 will be weak with Princeton on a down season. I expect the SOS to suffer, bit OOC game #13 is @ Duke which is like a SOS steroid shot.
Ideally, I wish we split the Duke game and Princeton into two home games against teams in the top 50 at the end of OOC play, but nobody wants to play this team at the Garden.
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Find any evidence of suggesting this schedule is not a great fit for us. You can't.
You're right, I can't. Similarly, there is no evidence that this schedule was a good fit for us. Who's to say we wouldn't have beaten better teams in those games?
The first five games of our schedule were very strong.
Comical. We didn't play a top 100 team. You are the only one who thinks playing two cupcakes, two of the worst power 5 conference teams and a middling A10 team could be anywhere close to considered "very strong"
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You're right, I can't. Similarly, there is no evidence that this schedule was a good fit for us. Who's to say we wouldn't have beaten better teams in those games?
Comical. We didn't play a top 100 team. You are the only one who thinks playing two cupcakes, two of the worst power 5 conference teams and a middling A10 team could be anywhere close to considered "very strong"
VCU and Rutgers are top 80 in the NET rankings.
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VCU and Rutgers are top 80 in the NET rankings.
I don't know how emoji's work so imagine the eyeroll one here.
For the sake of my sanity and for the board, I'm willing to call a truce on this topic until March 17th. Agree?
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I don't know how emoji's work so imagine the eyeroll one here.
For the sake of my sanity and for the board, I'm willing to call a truce on this topic until March 17th. Agree?
Sorry bruh. You lost this and have earned what's coming.
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Sorry bruh. You lost this and have earned what's coming.
Yeah, me and every other person that has glanced at our schedule including Rothstein, Zach etc. If you want to continue I sure can. Just seems like everybody else is sick of this already and we've essentially just been repeating ourselves the last few weeks (haven't heard you talk up Bowling Green again though recently, odd). It will be confirmed on March 17th one way or another.
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Villanova only BE team in AP 25 still-Marquette, Creighton and Johnnies receive votes. Maybe we crack it next week.
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Just need to keep winning and it will sort itself out. 12-0 needs to be the goal heading into big east play. We need to get behind the team and this team is going to be the only team to keep NY sports going until baseball season. Time for St. John's to take back the city!
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Villanova only BE team in AP 25 still-Marquette, Creighton and Johnnies receive votes. Maybe we crack it next week.
We were #18 in Jerry Carino's AP Top 25 ballot.
Creighton is #21 in the CBS poll.
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Marquette beats #12 Kansas St. this wknd, already has a win over Louisville and only lost to Kansas by 9 at Fog Allen. I feel like the AP short changed them this week with only 47 votes. Are schools like Furman and Buffalo really passing the eye test over the teams beneath them?
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Marquette beats #12 Kansas St. this wknd, already has a win over Louisville and only lost to Kansas by 9 at Fog Allen. I feel like the AP short changed them this week with only 39 votes. Are schools like Furman and Buffalo really passing the eye test over the teams beneath them?
Have you seen Buffalo? Beat WVU in Morgantown. Enough said. A lot of talent like the Johnnies and with great coaching too.
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Have you seen Buffalo? Beat WVU in Morgantown. Enough said. A lot of talent like the Johnnies and with great coaching too.
Both schools have my respect, I watched the Furman/Nova game, haven't seen Buffalo just yet but their momentum from last year into this Fall warrants their ranking. Wofford is also a very talented mid major. I'm just saying, when they dominate their leagues in a few months, will their positions hold?
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Both schools have my respect, I watched the Furman/Nova game, haven't seen Buffalo just yet but their momentum from last year into this Fall warrants their ranking. Wofford is also a very talented mid major. I'm just saying, when they dominate their leagues in a few months, will their positions hold?
True on all counts. Yeah I think Buffalo will for sure.
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Nova and Temple in a Big 5 battle. All tied up 2nd half.
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Not Big East, but related to us, VCU just won at Texas.
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We moved up three spots to #29 in the NET mostly on the VCU win over Texas. Princeton and three more cupcakes to withstand before weak teams won't be an issue.
I don't think the NET will too friendly to a 9-9 conference performance, as it doesn't seem to reward close losses to good teams.
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I don't think the NET will too friendly to a 9-9 conference performance, as it doesn't seem to reward close losses to good teams.
I think that's true.
additionally for NET: close losses (to anyone) are better than blowout loses because they don't kill your efficiency numbers. additionally, road losses (to anyone) don't hurt as much as home losses. so if you're going to lose, lose close and on the road.
unlike RPI, strength of you opponent only seems to matter in NET if you actually win the game, which makes sense. In other words, beating bad teams won't hurt you and losing to good teams won't help (whereas in RPI the opposite was often true in many instances). that said, NET definitely has issues and is a bit of a black box
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I think that's true.
additionally for NET: close losses (to anyone) are better than blowout loses because they don't kill your efficiency numbers. additionally, road losses (to anyone) don't hurt as much as home losses. so if you're going to lose, lose close and on the road.
unlike RPI, strength of you opponent only seems to matter in NET if you actually win the game, which makes sense. In other words, beating bad teams won't hurt you and losing to good teams won't help (whereas in RPI the opposite was often true in many instances). that said, NET definitely has issues and is a bit of a black box
I've adjusted my expectation to 12-6. The lack of size in the conference will help. Don't get swept and then sweep three teams: my guess is SH, DePaul, and one of Gtown/Xavier/Butler.
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Wow, suck it Providence.
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SHU beats UK on national TV in what was supposed to be our game. Good win for them and the BE
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Wow, suck it Providence Ed Cooley's diseased head
I no longer take pleasure from good things happening to me, only from when bad things happen to other people. So I agree: excelsior. PS You've been completely on point recently, has someone hacked your account?
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SHU beats UK on national TV in what was supposed to be our game. Good win for them and the BE
We would have lost though so this is another reason why our schedule is perfect.
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SHU beats UK on national TV in what was supposed to be our game. Good win for them and the BE
After watching some of this game and the last 10 minutes in its entirety I am thinking the Hall will give us a tough game. Kentucky always struggles early with all the freshmen but they have the bodies. Any thoughts on this game guys? I was in the gym and could not properly evaluate.
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The Hall will definitely give us a tough game. Big Game Myles Powell will be hard to stop. Johnnies better be ready for a long, grueling Big East grind.
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After watching some of this game and the last 10 minutes in its entirety I am thinking the Hall will give us a tough game. Kentucky always struggles early with all the freshmen but they have the bodies. Any thoughts on this game guys? I was in the gym and could not properly evaluate.
We will be underdogs against the Hall in the BE opener, so yeah it won't be easy
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The Hall will definitely give us a tough game. Big Game Myles Powell will be hard to stop. Johnnies better be ready for a long, grueling Big East grind.
There is no high major game on our schedule that won't be a problem. I'm sure there will be a few games where we are hot and the opposing team is cold (or vice versa) that will result in a runaway, but I expect to see a lot of Ponds running the show late in single-digit games.
I do think Seton Hall is a favorable matchup for us. With Keita back I have it as a win.
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Marquette and Wisconsin going OT! BE could have a great day today!
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Marquette with a great win. Going to be a very tough out for sju. Big - Hausser (2x Sam, Joey) Bennett. Not to mention Howard (who has yet to meet a shot he wouldn’t take). New for this season they play d.
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Meant Morrow (Nebraska xfer) above
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There is no high major game on our schedule that won't be a problem. I'm sure there will be a few games where we are hot and the opposing team is cold (or vice versa) that will result in a runaway, but I expect to see a lot of Ponds running the show late in single-digit games.
I do think Seton Hall is a favorable matchup for us. With Keita back I have it as a win.
Let's hope Keita integrates back into the rotation nicely. I think it may be a little bumpy at first but he'll be a plus for us as conf play goes on.
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Nova 17
Marq 21
St. Johns 30th 57 votes
Butler 2 votes 38 Seton Hall 1 Vote 39
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Sorry St. John's 32....Butler tied 39 Seton Hall tied 41
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Nova in real trouble against Penn. 6 min to go.
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Nova in real trouble against Penn. 6 min to go.
Great game. Penn is playing tough.
Mullin should watch film of this
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Great game. Penn is playing tough.
Penn could very well win the Ivy league this year. Bad, quick shot by Gillespie there.
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Great game. Penn is playing tough.
Mullin should watch film of this
I was just about to write the same thing. For the back cuts and screens on offense alone.
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Penn with the big upset of Nova.
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Vintage Palestra! End the greed and get every Big5 game back in the cathedral!
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Vintage Palestra! End the greed and get every Big5 game back in the cathedral!
TOO RIGHT--i love that place, the noises can be deafening and have great memories of a St. John's win over Nova in OT
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TOO RIGHT--i love that place, the noises can be deafening and have great memories of a St. John's win over Nova in OT
My senior year at St. Joe's every home game was played at the Palestra due to on campus renovations. Throughout my 4 years the Palestra crowd used to be cut in half for every Big5 game, you could see the divide by school colors. Banners used to scroll down student sections and combating chants existed for every game. Unfortunately post 2010 the Hawks, Nova and Temple all gave in to donor influences to host their Big5 home games on respective campuses. Now only Lasalle and obviously Penn still live to the old ways. It's a downright shame.
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https://twitter.com/itsryanbowman/status/1072690906581659648
Let's see if JQ plays another game after finals.
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lol the #$%^in jelly fam
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JQ's numbers are horrible--they might be happy if he transfers.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/12/13/with-duke-behind-him-jordan-tucker-ready-to-debut-for-butler/
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2018/12/13/villanovas-quinerly-issues-apology-following-instagram-post/
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Max Strus of all people with the SportsCenter top 10 dunk tonight. Gonna be a grind all year in conference.
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Max Strus of all people with the SportsCenter top 10 dunk tonight. Gonna be a grind all year in conference.
and then he gets T'd up for taunting.
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Nova-Kansas game is a good one on ESPN, Nova up 1 with 10 to go
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#17 Nova loses to Kansas.
#25 Syracuse loses at home to Old Dominion.
Georgia up 14 on #20 Arizona State at the half.
We could be ranked on Monday, but only if we’re ready for tomorrow’s showdown with Wagner.
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AP Poll is out. We are "#29" with 59 votes. Nova "30th" with 52 votes. Marquette #20.
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Monster road games for fringe Big East contenders X (@Mizzou) and Creighton (@Oklahoma) tonight. Litmus tests for both.
Also of note #14 Buffalo buses I-90 into Syracuse as a 4.5 point underdog later tn. 8P start should be terrific.
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Monster road games for fringe Big East contenders X (@Mizzou) and Creighton (@Oklahoma) tonight. Litmus tests for both.
Also of note #14 Buffalo buses I-90 into Syracuse as a 4.5 point underdog later tn. 8P start should be terrific.
I don't think there is anything fringe about Creighton.
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Not the BE but Buffalo with the impressive double digit win in the Carrier Dome. That team will be a tough out come March.
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Empty the Dome! Always good to see Jim Whitesell- Buffalo is tough as nails again this year, lengthy, fundamentally sound, balanced and experienced. They're top10 with a win in Milwaukee Friday night.
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Hurley started this ride for buffalo before going to ASU. Then the blowout win over zona in tourney last year. Team has taken to next level. Both big wins this year for them have been on road, really impressive.
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Hurley started this ride for buffalo before going to ASU.
I know everyone here has bedrooms wall papered with posters of the Hurley brothers but you might want to give some credit to his predecessor Reggie Witherspoon. He inherited as interim coach a team in the midst of an NCAA investigation that went 3-20 and five years later after some brutal rebuilding (24-85) went 23-10. His last five years at UB he was 93-69 and won 20 games three times. Hurley inherited from him seven upperclassmen. Not a bad situation to step into.
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Just tuned in to catch the Marquette-Buffalo game. Coach Wojo before the game: "we've really grown a lot as a team since the beginning of the year; i think a big part of that is the quality of competition we've played." Fancy that.
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NCAA tourney feel to this game in Milwaukee tonight. Great back n forth action.
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NCAA tourney feel to this game in Milwaukee tonight. Great back n forth action.
Just came here to say the same thing. This is two really good teams going at it hammer and tongs.
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Just came here to say the same thing. This is two really good teams going at it hammer and tongs.
2 sweet 16 teams
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Howard unconscious
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Howard unconscious
Early leader for BE POY. Doing it against big-time ranked teams.
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Howard unconscious
40 in the second half, including the last 25 for Marquette. To use another poster's favorite word, INSANE.
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Howard was tremendous against Buffalo, but let’s see him do it against Wagner.
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Early leader for BE POY. Doing it against big-time ranked teams.
Not saying your wrong but check his %s in comparison to ponds. Much much less efficient so far.
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Marquette scares the hell out of me. Theo John is a monster. Personally I think they’ll take two from us.
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Not saying your wrong but check his %s in comparison to ponds. Much much less efficient so far.
Voters aren't looking at that nearly as much as these numbers that really matter which are:
45 pts vs #12 K State in a Win
27 pts vs #12 Wisconsin in a Win
45 pts vs #14 Buffalo in a Win
Hell, now that I'm listing it he's definitely in the early season running for National POY with these performances. Shamorie has time to catch up with big numbers and wins in the BE and against Duke.
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Marquette is a bad matchup for us.
Two things I didn't realize about them: there is a SECOND Hauser on the team this year (and he is better than his brother) and they have Ed Morrow from Ga Tech.
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Marquette is a bad matchup for us.
Two things I didn't realize about them: there is a SECOND Hauser on the team this year (and he is better than his brother) and they have Ed Morrow from Ga Tech.
He’s good but he’s not better than his brother. Not yet at least
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He’s good but he’s not better than his brother. Not yet at least
More talented is what I meant by that. Older brother is the better player for now with his experience.
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The Ponds/Howard match up could be one of the best for the year as both have something to prove in the POY contest. Get your seats now for New Year's Day.
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Ponds will eat Howard alive. Howard is a turnover machine and couldn't guard me.
Uconn and Nova is completely sold out at MSG and I've got a half-dozens friends there. What an atmosphere.
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Seth Davis at the ha;f just said Howard in the running for national POY. Must've read my earlier post lol.
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I dont want to start the 19th OOC schedule argument, and I know MSG is going to have other college hoops games...but the fact that UConn is playing Nova instead of us on our freakin floor just burns my ass.
Rant over.
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Not saying your wrong but check his %s in comparison to ponds. Much much less efficient so far.
I wonder what the reaction here would be (that's rhetorical, I don't wonder) if Ponds scored 45 points on 25 shots - including 15 shots in a row - with six TO's. Less I think POY talk than what a selfish player talk. Heron takes 11 shots and folk talk about him hunting for stats.
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Just watched Villanova VS UConn. Either Villanova is back or Hurley Can't coach. Pathetic second half by UConn, must be the coaches fault. ;D
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Voters aren't looking at that nearly as much as these numbers that really matter which are:
45 pts vs #12 K State in a Win
27 pts vs #12 Wisconsin in a Win
45 pts vs #14 Buffalo in a Win
Hell, now that I'm listing it he's definitely in the early season running for National POY with these performances. Shamorie has time to catch up with big numbers and wins in the BE and against Duke.
Big individual numbers is not a winning formula, teamwork and sharing the ball is what it is all about. If and when Howard has an off game guys who take 5-6 shots a game will have a hard time stepping up. I love the way Ponds is sharing it this year....he can always get his shot if needed.
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I wonder what the reaction here would be (that's rhetorical, I don't wonder) if Ponds scored 45 points on 25 shots - including 15 shots in a row - with six TO's. Less I think POY talk than what a selfish player talk. Heron takes 11 shots and folk talk about him hunting for stats.
Would have his fair share of critics that’s for sure. FWIW, Howard getting 25 a game on 17.5 shots. Ponds getting 20 on just under 13 shots. Better defender, better passer.
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Big individual numbers is not a winning formula, teamwork and sharing the ball is what it is all about. If and when Howard has an off game guys who take 5-6 shots a game will have a hard time stepping up. I love the way Ponds is sharing it this year....he can always get his shot if needed.
Big individual numbers that propel your team to win games against ranked teams is exactly what it's about. That's what Howard has done this year and that's why he's in the running for national POY.
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Big individual numbers that propel your team to win games against ranked teams is exactly what it's about. That's what Howard has done this year and that's why he's in the running for national POY.
That's certainly true, but it's not Shamorie's fault that his coaching staff put together a Norm Roberts schedule.
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That's certainly true, but it's not Shamorie's fault that his coaching staff put together a Norm Roberts schedule.
No doubt and Ponds still has plenty of time to make his mark by leading this team to wins in BE play.
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I wonder what the reaction here would be (that's rhetorical, I don't wonder) if Ponds scored 45 points on 25 shots - including 15 shots in a row - with six TO's. Less I think POY talk than what a selfish player talk. Heron takes 11 shots and folk talk about him hunting for stats.
Ponds was an all-American last year and WASJU said that he couldn't shoot and that Lovett was better.
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Good day for our SOS. Ga Tech lost to Georgia but VCU, Rutgers, Cal, and Bowling Green all won plus Nova big over Uconn.
VCU beat Wichita State by 16 and Bowlig Green won its third straight game by 21 points or more beating Western Carolina.
A SH won @ Maryland would top it off nicely. They are up with around 10 mins left.
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Wow SH wins in Maryland! After tonight the talk of schedules is over.
@SH and then Marquette to start conference play.
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Good day for our SOS. Ga Tech lost to Georgia but VCU, Rutgers, Cal, and Bowling Green all won plus Nova big over Uconn.
Yup. Moved our SOS all the way up to 344. As in there are only 9 teams with a weaker OOC SOS.
Thankfully, we didn't do what we've done in years past and lose a WTF game. Time to take care of business in conference.
Unrelated note, we are currently +18 against Duke (was +19 yesterday).
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Yup. Moved our SOS all the way up to 344. As in there are only 9 teams with a weaker OOC SOS.
Thankfully, we didn't do what we've done in years past and lose a WTF game. Time to take care of business in conference.
Unrelated note, we are currently +18 against Duke (was +19 yesterday).
According to KenPom. They don't credit us with neutral court games against VCU and Cal. The NET does and that's what matters.
Three of our next four games are against teams that are or have been ranked in the top 32 of the AP. We then have another stretch that reads: @Creighton, @Duke, @Marquette, Providence, Butler, Villanova, and Providence!!! Those are consecutive games. Wow.
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According to KenPom. They don't credit us with neutral court games against VCU and Cal. The NET does and that's what matters.
Ah yes, because those games going from semi-home to neutral would bump the SOS from 344 into the top 100. Lol, what a dope
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Ah yes, because those games going from semi-home to neutral would bump the SOS from 344 into the top 100. Lol, what a dope
Did he say that... you make the worst arguments
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Did he say that... you make the worst arguments
He's trying to keep up his claim that the OOC schedule isn't weak (despite every rankings system and human brain knowing otherwise) by saying the SOS number is too low on one system because two neutral games are counted as semi-home games on that site, as if that would make the OOC schedule go from 7th worst to not-weak somehow
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He's trying to keep up his claim that the OOC schedule isn't weak (despite every rankings system and human brain knowing otherwise) by saying the SOS number is too low on one system because two neutral games are counted as semi-home games on that site, as if that would make the OOC schedule go from 7th worst to not-weak somehow
A top 50 ranking is nice (Kenpom). A top 30 ranking is nicer (net). Could that not be it
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A top 50 ranking is nice (Kenpom). A top 30 ranking is nicer (net). Could that not be it
Shouldn't a 12-0 team be ranked higher than 50 and 30? There's only 5 of em left
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Ah yes, because those games going from semi-home to neutral would bump the SOS from 344 into the top 100. Lol, what a dope
Honestly, what is wrong with you? You have become insufferable to read. Your infatuation with defending the weakness of our schedule has become one of the most unusual themes in the history of this forum.
Your straw men arguments are exhausting, and you punctuate almost every encounter with calling me a nice person. Stop building these bogus arguments to destroy. You're like Don Quixote fighting windmills at this point. Nobody thinks that reclassifying two games to neutral court would vault us into a top 100 SOS.
I've made three claims all along: (1) our complete OOC after the road game at Duke isn't that weak; (2) our overall schedule is very strong; and (3) not having a monster schedule was ideal for THIS TEAM.
How much longer are you going to continue this?
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Shouldn't a 12-0 team be ranked higher than 50 and 30? There's only 5 of em left
Yea they should be
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Florida waxing Butler
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Florida waxing Butler
That's crazy. Butler beat them a few weeks ago too.
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Creighton up 11 on Providence. Under 5 to go.
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Creighton up 11 on Providence. Under 5 to go.
And that's the final margin. Creighton wins.
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And that's the final margin. Creighton wins.
I have watched more BE BB in the last two months than I have in the last two years. Providence stinks. Crieghton stinks, despite having the great Doug Mcdermott's father as head coach. Seton Hall we already beat and will beat again. Butler stinks. Villanova is beat able, Georgetown stinks but is a bad match up, as is DePaul. No opinion on Xavier. This SJ team is capable of waxing these clowns. If they don't there's something very very wrong.
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I have watched more BE BB in the last two months than I have in the last two years. Providence stinks. Crieghton stinks, despite having the great Doug Mcdermott's father as head coach. Seton Hall we already beat and will beat again. Butler stinks. Villanova is beat able, Georgetown stinks but is a bad match up, as is DePaul. No opinion on Xavier. This SJ team is capable of waxing these clowns. If they don't there's something very very wrong.
Based on how we've looked to this point I tend to agree. Not sure about waxing Providence and Creighton but both winnable games. I still think Nova is the class of the league but they are beatable this year as evidenced.
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I have watched more BE BB in the last two months than I have in the last two years. Providence stinks. Crieghton stinks, despite having the great Doug Mcdermott's father as head coach. Seton Hall we already beat and will beat again. Butler stinks. Villanova is beat able, Georgetown stinks but is a bad match up, as is DePaul. No opinion on Xavier. This SJ team is capable of waxing these clowns. If they don't there's something very very wrong.
Capable. Yes. ‘Waxing’, not so much. Our lack of bench will hurt us.
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Capable. Yes. ‘Waxing’, not so much. Our lack of bench will hurt us.
This is something that I have heard consistently on this board and there really isn’t any basis to it. Many teams only play 7-8 players. Villanova has won 2 national championships with a “lack of bench”. Let’s please stop finding excuses, we are one of the most talented teams in the BE, time to win.
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This is something that I have heard consistently on this board and there really isn’t any basis to it. Many teams only play 7-8 players. Villanova has won 2 national championships with a “lack of bench”. Let’s please stop finding excuses, we are one of the most talented teams in the BE, time to win.
True but our roster isn’t balanced this year. We only have two bigs that can give us quality minutes (only one active at the moment). Next year we probably won’t be as talented but we will be more balanced. Something we haven’t been in years!
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I have watched more BE BB in the last two months than I have in the last two years. Providence stinks. Crieghton stinks, despite having the great Doug Mcdermott's father as head coach. Seton Hall we already beat and will beat again. Butler stinks. Villanova is beat able, Georgetown stinks but is a bad match up, as is DePaul. No opinion on Xavier. This SJ team is capable of waxing these clowns. If they don't there's something very very wrong.
Agree. St Johns/Marquette Big East championship game
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SHU beats Xavier in Cinci and Gtwon up 8 with 7 to go @ Butler. This is gonna be a weird league
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DePaul giving Nova all it can handle. Up 6 under 12 to go.
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DePaul giving Nova all it can handle. Up 6 under 12 to go.
Losses to Furman and Penn, neck and neck with LaSalle and DePaul deep into 2nd half's, this Nova team stinks, can't wait to play them.
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Losses to Furman and Penn, neck and neck with LaSalle and DePaul deep into 2nd half's, this Nova team stinks, can't wait to play them.
Next Tuesday it's on.
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Current odds to win the BE tourney courtesy of Bovada
Villanova +155
St. John's +375
Butler +550
Marquette +550
Creighton +750
Seton Hall +950
Xavier +950
Georgetown +1400
Providence +1400
DePaul +1800
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With our short bench...three or four games in as many days will be tough.
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With our short bench...three or four games in as many days will be tough.
Interesting point. What would constitute a greater success this season; winning the Big East regular season and BET but only win one NCAA game, or sacrificing the Big East banners for a Sweet Sixteen?
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Interesting point. What would constitute a greater success this season; winning the Big East regular season and BET but only win one NCAA game, or sacrificing the Big East banners for a Sweet Sixteen?
Sweet 16
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Interesting point. What would constitute a greater success this season; winning the Big East regular season and BET but only win one NCAA game, or sacrificing the Big East banners for a Sweet Sixteen?
Sixteen - not even a question.
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I agree Sweet Sixteen. My point was, with essentially an eight man team, do we risk fatigue from a three day-four day marathon for BE hardware? If we have a nice seeding based on regular season play, is it necessary to risk the fatigue of our iron five starters?
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I agree Sweet Sixteen. My point was, with essentially an eight man team, do we risk fatigue from a three day-four day marathon for BE hardware? If we have a nice seeding based on regular season play, is it necessary to risk the fatigue of our iron five starters?
I don't worry about 18-22 year olds being so fatigued from 3 straight days of basketball that they won't be recovered 5 or 6 days later
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Butler and Creighton suck. Should be 20 point wins
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Howard putting up a 50 spot on Creighton. Still in OT.
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Marquette steals one at Creighton in OT 106-104.
Howard with 53. The only Div 1 player to go for multiple 50 pt games in the last 20 years. Impressive.
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What an awful way to lose a game. Good for Marquette and probably the BE. Howard and ponds will go back and forth all year.
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If a conference regular season championship is the goal we need Nova to start losing. Hopefully it starts on Saturday in Omaha. We need these next 2 at home to stay in the upper 1/3.
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For all those who think McDermott is a coaching genius, Creighton blew a 5 pt lead in last 5 seconds of regulation.
Full court inbounds pass thrown out of bounds, when they could have handed the ball to a Marquette player under the basket and still won the game with 8 tenths of a second on the clock.
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For all those who think McDermott is a coaching genius, Creighton blew a 5 pt lead in last 5 seconds of regulation.
Full court inbounds pass thrown out of bounds, when they could have handed the ball to a Marquette player under the basket and still won the game with 8 tenths of a second on the clock.
Exactly, because five seconds defines a career.
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Big time standings implications tomorrow afternoon between Providence@GTown. A loss for either really puts one in a hole.
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Yuge win for Patrick and the Hoyas in 2OT.
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Yuge win for Patrick and the Hoyas in 2OT.
Ed Cooley's diseased head 0-3.
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If you haven't made it out to Hinkle for a Saturday afternoon tip yet, put it on your wish list, it doesn't get better. Butler is down this year, but the crowd will keep them in it:
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1084850772553224197
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Monster 2019 additions continue for Leitao:
https://twitter.com/CarteareGordon/status/1085356900995207170
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https://twitter.com/KevinMcNamara33/status/1085998644237688832
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If you haven't made it out to Hinkle for a Saturday afternoon tip yet, put it on your wish list, it doesn't get better. Butler is down this year, but the crowd will keep them in it:
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1084850772553224197
They might be sold out but the snow could be a major factor as it will be snowing for at least 12 hours before tip off--we can hope!
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DePaul completes the season sweep of SHU and moves to 3rd place in the conference. College basketball is weird
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Georgetown now losers of 4/5 by a combined 16 pts.
Nova in Hinkle tomorrow night, Las Vegas has Butler favored.
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Watching Nova and Butler makes me want to cry. I wish we played basketball like this.
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Watching Nova and Butler makes me want to cry.
Take a Midol. It helps with the mood swings and also bloating.
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Does a sweep of Marquette and a home Nova win ensure us a at large? Assuming respectable play against the rest of the field.
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We are currently sitting in third place huh
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Does a sweep of Marquette and a home Nova win ensure us a at large? Assuming respectable play against the rest of the field.
There are numerous ways we can qualify for an at large. 10-8 gets it done regardless of who that 10 is. 9-9 with three combined wins over Nova, Duke, and Marquette get it done. A BET win would be gravy.
We just don't want to be 8-10.
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We are currently sitting in third place huh
Is a five way tie for third place, when we've lost to 3 of the other four teams we're tied with, really "sitting in third place"? No.
Need to win the next two to get back above .500 and get some mo going into Duke. LGR
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Is a five way tie for third place, when we've lost to 3 of the other four teams we're tied with, really "sitting in third place"? No.
What place are they in?
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Is a five way tie for third place, when we've lost to 3 of the other four teams we're tied with, really "sitting in third place"? No.
Need to win the next two to get back above .500 and get some mo going into Duke. LGR
They are literally in third place, tiebreakers don't come into play until the series is official and they have games left with all of them.
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Good stuff:
https://apnews.com/47ae0deb5405403bb6e49efa5fc6a2d8?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP_Sports
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Gotta think Marquette moves into the top 10 on Monday
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Marquette 10 and Nova 14
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Duke game interesting as Zion Williamson is a real problem because of his bulk and skills. Duke may have a problem with Ponds. The game probably revolves around driving on Zion and getting him in foul trouble. The Sunday game between Nova and Gtown should also be good. McClung played like an All American against us. The other starting players went 7 or 10 shooting 3's. My guess Gtown wins and we will give Duke a hard time.
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Monster game in Newark tn w GTown in town, both teams at 6-6 with 9 overall losses. I think Hall has been telling a lie all season and would love to see them lose.
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Monster game in Newark tn w GTown in town, both teams at 6-6 with 9 overall losses. I think Hall has been telling a lie all season and would love to see them lose.
Both 5-6 one will be 6-6 after the game.
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Quincy McKnight can play. Take a guy like that any day of the week. He just stole the ball 3 consecutive plays
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Quincy McKnight can play. Take a guy like that any day of the week. He just stole the ball 3 consecutive plays
Very good get.
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Creighton really sucks, but somehow they are a Q1 win.
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What's wrong with nova
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Nova shot only 4 free throws. I know at least one poster on this board who had an orgasm over that. :D ;) :) ;D
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Nova shot only 4 free throws. I know at least one poster on this board who had an orgasm over that
Nova's lost 4 of 5, their one win at home being versus last place Providence. They've lost to almost every good team they've played and their best wins are Florida State and SJ's, at home. And we stink. If Jay Wright wasn't Mike Schrewshenski lite they'd be about an 11 seed. Probably they end up as a two in the east and play the regional in far off Pittsburgh.
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What's wrong with nova
They live by the 3--now they can't make 3's. Their "suspect" backcourt (Booth Gillespie and Cremo) has collapsed.
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What's wrong with nova
I think with some home cooking and a victory over #10 Marquette, reports of their demise will be viewed as premature.
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What's wrong with nova
Nothing
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If we somehow beat Xavier the three seed is still almost definite.
With Creighton's upset of Marquette, the only team we're guaranteed to seed ahead of at this point is Butler. It get's to be some very complicated math with these teams all playing each other. But it looks like with a loss to X the seven or eight seed is even in play for us.
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Looks like I picked the wrong night to go big on Marquette. They didn’t score a point in the last 4+minutes and only scored 5 in the last 9 minutes.
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https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/1104667962961625088
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The officiating down the stretch in this Marquette/SHU game is some of the worst I've ever seen
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I’ve never seen such a poorly officiated game in my life. Start to finish.
80 fts? How was Powell not ejected?
The tech on McKnight for showing up the ref? Drop the ego.
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I’ve never seen such a poorly officiated game in my life. Start to finish.
80 fts? How was Powell not ejected?
The tech on McKnight for showing up the ref? Drop the ego.
Just left the Garden, what a fckn disgrace. Those refs killed the game, for both teams. The Garden PA announced that the Euro big, Powell, Anim and John were all ejected. Few mins later Powell.is back on the court. No explanation
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Just left the Garden, what a fckn disgrace. Those refs killed the game, for both teams. The Garden PA announced that the Euro big, Powell, Anim and John were all ejected. Few mins later Powell.is back on the court. No explanation
Big East wanted SH to win...that’s the explanation.
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Powell wasn’t ejected because Kevin Willard made some deal with the devil years ago when he was on the cusp of being fired the first time. When he has to pay that tab I can’t imagine what it will be.
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Marquette board has started like 15 new topics about the issues yesterday. They also think the BET was rigged with St Johns being the number one choice. Lol.
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Nice to see 2 hard fought semi final games in the BE. Seton Hall in what their 3rd final in the past 5 years when we can't even get to a semi in what forever. 4 years ago no quarterfinal for us last 3 years quarterfinal losses totaling 101 points. That is mind boggling and on our home court. To say we even have a program is a stretch. SMFH
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5 Big East teams selected to NIT. DePaul selected to CBI.
90% of the league in the NCAA or NIT is awesome.
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https://twitter.com/NJHoopsHaven/status/1114507245398765568
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Apparently Va Tech AD spoke with him but never met and never offered the gig.
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https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1130569643184336904
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https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1130569643184336904
This would be awful for the Big East.
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This would be awful for the Big East.
Big blow indeed if it happens. Just in the last few seasons Holtmann to Ohio St, Mack to Louisville and now Cooley potentially to Michigan.
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https://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20190722/big-east-stars-coming-together-in-pursuit-of-pan-am-games-gold
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https://twitter.com/suntimes_sports/status/1153733024057610240
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Wow! That's on par with us having to vacate victories because of payments to Abe Keita. They cheated and still couldn't get out of the Big East cellar. If I am a DePaul fan, do I take Leito's suspension as a positive?
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This is ridiculous. When are they going to make a finding against one of the blue bloods who are cheating every chance they get?
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This is ridiculous. When are they going to make a finding against one of the blue bloods who are cheating every chance they get?
Different set of rules for the big boys. That's just the way it is even though those schools get away with much more.
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Fanta Report: Pan American Games Edition
https://ncaahoopsdigest.com/2019/07/30/fanta-report-pan-american-games-edition/
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Heron playing very well early, live link below:
http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=21879216-a6b4-44c5-8093-530f7b2a5a4e
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https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1182309759816474629
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How funny is it that Willard gets suspended for a few games for likely doing the equivalent of what was a daily in-season activity for our former assistant, but somehow has still skated with all the Tiny Morton/Whitehead/Andy Miller crap.
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Said this last year during the big east tournament,Quincy McKnight is a problem
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Watching teams from around the league tonight the Big East looks noticeably stronger and deeper than last year.
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Myles Powell injured his ankle today against Sacred Heart. Has already been ruled out for Thursday huge game against Michigan State and Willard said it could be a "prolonged absence". Huge news
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DePaul putting the smack down on Iowa last night. Improve to 4-0 for the first time in forever. They are no joke. Stock up in the BE this year.
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Could end up being a rough night for the BE. Villanova got bombed at Ohio State, Marquette struggling at home vs Purdue and Providence down double digits to a Northwestern team that just lost at home to Merrimack.
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Xavier-UConn going to OT in Charleston. Naji Marshall with deeep 3 to send it to extra session. Great early season battle.
G'town played Duke tough at the Garden. Hoyas have some horses and should be much improved come Feb-March.
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Xavier-UConn going to OT in Charleston. Naji Marshall with deeep 3 to send it to extra session. Great early season battle.
G'town played Duke tough at the Garden. Hoyas have some horses and should be much improved come Feb-March.
UConn might have won if they didn’t continue to run Gilbert out there. He could be the worst point guard in the country.
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Xavier-UConn going to OT in Charleston. Naji Marshall with deeep 3 to send it to extra session. Great early season battle.
G'town played Duke tough at the Garden. Hoyas have some horses and should be much improved come Feb-March.
Then Marshall takes a mindless 35 footer with 5 seconds left in OT in a tie game.
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Then Marshall takes a mindless 35 footer with 5 seconds left in OT in a tie game.
Completely mind numbing. Very lucky to have escaped with the W.
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UConn might have won if they didn’t continue to run Gilbert out there. He could be the worst point guard in the country.
Yeah he's way out of control, that's for sure. They should've won that game and gave it away at the end. Wild back n forth affair.
The frosh Bouknight from LaSalle Academy looked real good and should get some more minutes running the point.
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Yeah he's way out of control, that's for sure. They should've won that game and gave it away at the end. Wild back n forth affair.
The frosh Bouknight from LaSalle Academy looked real good and should get some more minutes running the point.
I agree. Bouknight is their best guard. They should just give him the ball. They could make the NIT if they don’t keep Gilbert out there.
That said, I hope Gilbert plays 38 minutes a game and takes 25 shots every game.
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Seton Hall blows a 19 point lead and loses to Oregon. Powell missed two consecutive shots late (not including rye half court shot at the end) and Oregon got lucky.
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Seton Hall blows a 19 point lead and loses to Oregon. Powell missed two consecutive shots late (not including rye half court shot at the end) and Oregon got lucky.
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They looked great initially and then awful, they can be beat. DePaul looked good. Big East looking like a parity conference
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Wheels really falling off for Providence. They lose to LBSU as 20 point favs. That's two sub-100 losses and now a sub-250 loss for them. Rough.
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UNC Greensboro giving G'town all they can handle up by 4 with under 4 to go.
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Gtown doing themselves no favors. UNCG is good but that's a game Gtown has to win at home if they wanna be in tournament discussion. They have to win 2 out of their next 3 that are all at least mildly tough games.
Providence's season is pretty much already over despite them entering the season with tournament aspirations as well.
Meanwhile DePaul is 8-0 with 3 decent to good road wins already. Big test for them Wednesday at home against Texas Tech who might be down one of their best players.
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Akinjo and LeBlanc transferring from Georgetown. What was supposed to be a big season for Gtown is turning into a train wreck.
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Akinjo and LeBlanc transferring from Georgetown. What was supposed to be a big season for Gtown is turning into a train wreck.
That’s probably a loss Georgetown can’t recover from, but if they do, and they end up having a good season, Ewing may earn some cred as a coach.
Right now, he’s effectively matched Chris Mullin.
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Akinjo and LeBlanc transferring from Georgetown. What was supposed to be a big season for Gtown is turning into a train wreck.
Crushing for them. It's still early in the season but they didn't look nearly as cohesive as they did last year and a lot of that starts with Akinjo. Would love to know what went down behind the scenes.
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Crushing for them. It's still early in the season but they didn't look nearly as cohesive as they did last year and a lot of that starts with Akinjo. Would love to know what went down behind the scenes.
Yep, apparently Ewing had no choice but to dismiss them so we'll see if anything comes out about what they did.
"Sexual Harassment, violence and burglary against 3 Georgetown players, 2 of which are still on the roster" - Norlander on Twitter
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Yep, apparently Ewing had no choice but to dismiss them so we'll see if anything comes out about what they did.
"Sexual Harassment, violence and burglary against 3 Georgetown players, 2 of which are still on the roster" - Norlander on Twitter
Wow.
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Akinjo is not one of the 3. He transferred for other reasons it seems. Read the link in this tweet: https://twitter.com/MattNorlander/status/1201703198307897350?s=19
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Georgetown - rough day down there - players accused of sexual assault & burglary
James Akinjo transferring
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/bigeast/2019/12/03/georgetown-basketball-leblanc-alexander-garnder-harassment-restraining-order/2594121001/
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I wanted Josh LeBlanc too. Him and Galen Alexander were both teammates of Greg Williams.
Pretty wild at Georgetown. I really thought they were a top 3 team in conference this year.
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DePaul just hits a 3 to force OT with Texas Tech. Really close game the whole way. Entertaining. DePaul looks like a tourney candidate this year.
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Great overtime win for DePaul coming back again. What a game. Signature win for that program and Leitao.
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Great overtime win for DePaul coming back again. What a game. Signature win for that program and Leitao.
Ain’t no Tariq Owens on this Texas Tech team. DePaul acted like they just made the final four.
Texas Tech is about as good as Umass right now.
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Ain’t no Tariq Owens on this Texas Tech team. DePaul acted like they just made the final four.
Texas Tech is about as good as Umass right now.
Doesn't sound like you watched the game? If you did you would've seen one of the most competitive, back and forth games of the entire early college hoops season. Of course DePaul is celebrating. This is their best start since Reagan was in office. DePaul is a borderline Top 25 team right now with some big early season wins.
Texas Tech would wipe the floor with UMass. The clutch shot making (mostly from 3) late from both teams last night was big-time.
Tech's defense and coaching still very good.
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Doesn't sound like you watched the game? If you did you would've seen one of the most competitive, back and forth games of the entire early college hoops season. Of course DePaul is celebrating. This is their best start since Reagan was in office. DePaul is a borderline Top 25 team right now with some big early season wins.
Texas Tech would wipe the floor with UMass. The clutch shot making (mostly from 3) late from both teams last night was big-time.
Tech's defense and coaching still very good.
Tech’s best player was questionable. Wasn’t expected to play. Have no idea if he did
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Tech’s best player was questionable. Wasn’t expected to play. Have no idea if he did
One of their best players, Ramsey, was out. Shannon, their other best player, was on fire last night playing in front of his hometown crowd. Both frosh too.
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Seton Hall will drop out of the polls now. Most overrated team in America.
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Butler/Baylor at 9 tonight. Lets go Bears!!!
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Butler/Baylor at 9 tonight. Lets go Bears!!!
Why would you be rooting for Baylor?
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Why would you be rooting for Baylor?
Should i root for butler???
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Should i root for butler???
Nah, root for BE teams to get walloped in non-conference games so that the wins and losses over them look worse instead of better.
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where is Butler on
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where is Butler on
9:00 on the deuce
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9:00 on the deuce
Thanks
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Doesn't sound like you watched the game? If you did you would've seen one of the most competitive, back and forth games of the entire early college hoops season. Of course DePaul is celebrating. This is their best start since Reagan was in office. DePaul is a borderline Top 25 team right now with some big early season wins.
Texas Tech would wipe the floor with UMass. The clutch shot making (mostly from 3) late from both teams last night was big-time.
Tech's defense and coaching still very good.
Texas Tech up 9 on #1 Louisville midway thru 2nd half. Like I said this team is no joke and just makes that win for DePaul that much better. UMass lol
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Sandro out 2 months for Seton Hall. Hurts them.
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Should i root for butler???
Are you serious? You always root for your conference. Holy sh*t. Is this your first week following college basketball?
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DePaul and Creighton will dance. He may be raw but I’d draft Weems of DePaul after his freshman year if I had pick 20 or below of the first round of the next draft.
Hell, I’d be tempted to take Reed as well. The only thing that will stand in the way of DePaul winning the league this year is chemistry and experience being a top team.
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Syracuse isn’t very good. But Georgetown is killing them. They play very good defense. They won’t be in last place in the big east.
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Syracuse isn’t very good. But Georgetown is killing them. They play very good defense. They won’t be in last place in the big east.
I don't think anybody expects Georgetown to be in last place in the Big East.
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I don't think anybody expects Georgetown to be in last place in the Big East.
No but February will be tough 7 deep. Fatigue bound to set in, the extent governed by conditioning. Team looked in great shape.
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Powell is out indefinitely. This team was overrated at 100%, and now they’ve lost their two best players. If I haven’t said it before, I’ll say it now, FU Seton Hall, you Jersey trash bag. I hope we pummel you twice, and then again in the BE tourney.
But seriously, can Kevin Willard keep them above water? It will be interesting to see how he handles this adversity. He hasn’t had to deal with much recently.
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No but February will be tough 7 deep. Fatigue bound to set in, the extent governed by conditioning. Team looked in great shape.
Does Ewing only have 7 scholarship players now?
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Does Ewing only have 7 scholarship players now?
Yes
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Powell is out indefinitely. This team was overrated at 100%, and now they’ve lost their two best players. If I haven’t said it before, I’ll say it now, FU Seton Hall, you Jersey trash bag. I hope we pummel you twice, and then again in the BE tourney.
But seriously, can Kevin Willard keep them above water? It will be interesting to see how he handles this adversity. He hasn’t had to deal with much recently.
They probably have a losing record to start 2020.
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Hate the seton hall fans. I really liked their team this year. Hopefully Powell returns soon.
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Willard's dealt with adversity almost every season. Whether you go back several years, with the Gibbs/Sina versus Tiny/Antigua crew fighting or even last year when they looked like a lock to dance and had a late year swoon until Powell rescued their season with some absolutely ridiculous performances.
I think Hall will still have a good year - it's their best roster in a while. And I hope Powell comes back soon. He's a truly great college player and seems like a great kid. I also hope Powell is keeping his long term basketball interests in mind as he deals with this setback, because I wouldn't put it past Kevin Willard to play on this kids sense of loyalty and care for his teammates to rush him back when he shouldn't so Willard can get a few more W's.
Powell is out indefinitely. This team was overrated at 100%, and now they’ve lost their two best players. If I haven’t said it before, I’ll say it now, FU Seton Hall, you Jersey trash bag. I hope we pummel you twice, and then again in the BE tourney.
But seriously, can Kevin Willard keep them above water? It will be interesting to see how he handles this adversity. He hasn’t had to deal with much recently.
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Providence is terrible tonight. So far, they’ve done nothing well.
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Seton hall just played a great half. Not sure if they can keep it up. Great defense
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Seton hall just played a great half. Not sure if they can keep it up. Great defense
They kept it up. Now they just need to close out this last 90 seconds up by 5. Crunch time. Would be a huge win for the Hall and the BE.
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They kept it up. Now they just need to close out this last 90 seconds up by 5. Crunch time. Would be a huge win for the Hall and the BE.
SH beats Maryland with its two best players out and we have some here blaming a loss to 6-5 Vermont on not having Rasheem Dunn.
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SH beats Maryland with its two best players out and we have some here blaming a loss to 6-5 Vermont on not having Rasheem Dunn.
Seton Hall is a few possessions away from being an undefeated top 10 team with heartbreaking losses to two Top 10 teams at the time in MSU and Oregon. We are not on that level this year. I have no doubt that Anderson is building to that level of competitiveness and success but it takes several years to get there. We are improving and playing more as a collective unit every game.
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SH beats Maryland with its two best players out and we have some here blaming a loss to 6-5 Vermont on not having Rasheem Dunn.
Or blaming Mullins 3rd year debacle on not having LoVett.
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Or blaming Mullins 3rd year debacle on not having LoVett.
Mullin’s third year was not a debacle and NOBODY took him and his staff to task for that shitty roster construction than me. Use the search function.
I was livid that we would be one injury away from going from a possible tournament team to crap because of a backup PG in NYC after Mussini went pro. I predicted 16 wins preseason.
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Nova beats #1 Kansas. The Big East has never been so weak right MullinsRevenge?!!!! #this#$%^ingguy!!!!
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Providence up 17 on 9—1 Texas and Butler winning a close won against Purdue early 26-21.
MullinsRevenge was right, this is the weakest the conference has been in many years. 🖕🏽
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Mullin’s third year was not a debacle
Wait what?
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Wait what?
16-17 is not a debacle. It’s especially not a debacle for a team that went 8-24 and 14-16 the two years prior. Disappointing? Absolutely.
16 wins is good enough for a three-way tie for the 9th lowest win total for St. John’s since 2000. How pathetic is that?
After Mussini went pro (following RF going pro and Ellison transferring) I predicted 16 wins and posted “There goes the season” and “what happens if Ponds or Lovett sprain an ankle? The season just end?” I also posted “Missing the tournament and losing a year with an absolute star like Ponds because you don't have a backup big and a fourth guard would be completely inexcusble.” Here is the thread: http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=10510.60
I’m all for blaming Mullin and staff for the horrific roster construction and risking the season because they couldn’t get a backup PG and physical big man with serviceable talent—both of those players grow on trees in NY. Those are the kind mistakes you get when you hire a brand new coach. You can only learn those things by f*cking up.
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16-17 is not a debacle. It’s especially not a debacle for a team that went 8-24 and 14-16 the two years prior. Disappointing? Absolutely.
16 wins is good enough for a three-way tie for the 9th lowest win total for St. John’s since 2000. How pathetic is that?
After Mussini went pro (following RF going pro and Ellison transferring) I predicted 16 wins and posted “There goes the season” and “what happens if Ponds or Lovett sprain an ankle? The season just end?” I also posted “Missing the tournament and losing a year with an absolute star like Ponds because you don't have a backup big and a fourth guard would be completely inexcusble.” Here is the thread: http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=10510.60
I’m all for blaming Mullin and staff for the horrific roster construction and risking the season because they couldn’t get a backup PG and physical big man with serviceable talent—both of those players grow on trees in NY. Those are the kind mistakes you get when you hire a brand new coach. You can only learn those things by f*cking up.
The team was 10-2, trending up and had just received a commitment from a 4 star kid from California because of how well the season was going. They then went 5-15 to finish the season including an 11 game losing streak that caused said 4 star kid to reevaluate and decide he wanted nothing to do with this program going forward. The way the Lovett situation was handled and played out, as well as the season as a whole was a debacle.
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The team was 10-2, trending up and had just received a commitment from a 4 star kid from California because of how well the season was going. They then went 5-15 to finish the season including an 11 game losing streak that caused said 4 star kid to reevaluate and decide he wanted nothing to do with this program going forward. The way the Lovett situation was handled and played out, as well as the season as a whole was a debacle.
The Lovett situation was a debacle. He was one of the top ten players in the conference and he was a legit top 25-50 caliber recruit for what he did on the court. The fact that we had no contingency for him and Ponds was horrific roster management. Lovett specifically showed signs of being extremely untrustworthy. Even with those two scoring point guards why not bring in a stable dump it off PG in the mold of Malik Boothe or Geno? They are everywhere.
The two players we were missing we had the year before in Sima and Mussini. I don’t know for sure, but I am pretty confident that Mullin didn’t do enough to convince them to stay. IMO he should have played Sima more before the end of the first semester to avoid the mid-year transfer. That is a new coaching blunder and perhaps something his pride as a hall of famer wouldn’t allow him to stoop to.
After Lovett went down we were ruined. We had no chance to win unless Ponds was heroic.
I don’t have a problem with being extremely critical of Mullin for all of the above, but I think what we saw on the court was exactly what was expected with an injury to either Ponds or Lovett. I don’t think he underperformed during the season... he and his staff made that bed prior.
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Wait what?
Mullin’s third year was not a debacle and NOBODY took him and his staff to task for that shitty roster construction than me. Use the search function.
I was livid that we would be one injury away from going from a possible tournament team to crap because of a backup PG in NYC after Mussini went pro. I predicted 16 wins preseason.
11 game losing streak. Last place. Not bad for year 3, 6 million in.
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Did everyone see that the Big East has 2 teams in the top25 and 7 more teams with points? Going just on that, the Big East will have 6, maybe 7 in the dance.
The Johnnies have 4 points. Not much, but its something. Only team missing is Providence.
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The new BE is as deep as it's ever been. There are no more "old DePaul's" on anyone's league schedule this year.
Stock up.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2019-12-23/how-big-east-has-put-college-basketball-alert
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Monday night X@Nova, Hall@DePaul should start off league play with a bang:
See really well written conference preview ahead of next week linked below:
Xavier Musketeers and 2019-20 Big East basketball: 'It's gonna be a war every night.'
Adam Baum, Cincinnati Enquirer
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2019/12/27/big-east-basketball-schedule-xavier-musketeers-conference-preview/2710093001/
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DePaul is real good this year. Their D is legit. Giving the Hall fits but they're sticking around.
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DePaul is real good this year. Their D is legit. Giving the Hall fits but they're sticking around.
Sloppy game. Plenty of bad shots by both. Seton hall missed a bunch of easy shots.
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Sloppy game. Plenty of bad shots by both. Seton hall missed a bunch of easy shots.
Hall trying to steal one on the road. Hanging tough.
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DePaul take a lot of bad 3’s.
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DePaul let the Hall hang around and they took advantage.
Big time road W for SHU to start league play.
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DePaul let the Hall hang around and they took advantage.
Big time road W for SHU to start league play.
Powell is a beast
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Powell is a beast
I think he wins BE POY if he stays healthy.
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I think he wins BE POY if he stays healthy.
Really going out on a limb there
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Really going out on a limb there
lol with stiff comp like Heron ya never know ;)
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Providence looks great so far
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Providence looks great so far
Great game tonight...Howard is so nasty!!
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Providence with the gritty win. Not one gimme game in league this year.
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https://twitter.com/KevinMcNamara33/status/1239550816450752513
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https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/status/1239605804942180353
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Naji Marshall signed with Agent and is staying in draft
Xavier losses Marshall / Jones and Goodin
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Naji Marshall signed with Agent and is staying in draft
Xavier losses Marshall / Jones and Goodin
Nice to see them lose guys,
but they’ll just replace them.
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Nice to see them lose guys,
but they’ll just replace them.
Xavier is the prototype for replacing successful coaches so we should probably trust Steele is the right guy. Still he has to prove he can recruit as well as his predecessors did and those guys all signed to play for Mack.
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Naji Marshall signed with Agent and is staying in draft
Xavier losses Marshall / Jones and Goodin
Marshall looked like a late first rounder as a soph. I don’t think he came close to realizing his potential.
He was too insistent on proving himself on the perimeter for the next level instead of dominating from the inside-out. Nobody in the league could have stopped him 12 feet and in. That hurt his team badly.
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Marshall looked like a late first rounder as a soph. I don’t think he came close to realizing his potential.
He was too insistent on proving himself on the perimeter for the next level instead of dominating from the inside-out. Nobody in the league could have stopped him 12 feet and in. That hurt his team badly.
Hard with Jones taking up so much space in there. And for what it’s worth he increased his 2 pt % by quite a bit this last year. Also took less threes.
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Bryce Aiken to The Hall.
Great get for them. Sucks for us.
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Bryce Aiken to The Hall.
Great get for them. Sucks for us.
Does it suck for us? I think this is a great get for St.John’s. I’d much rather face Bryce Aiken than Miles Powell.
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Does it suck for us? I think this is a great get for St.John’s. I’d much rather face Bryce Aiken than Miles Powell.
Powell graduated so he's gone either way. Don't get your point at all unless you think a stronger BE is good for us which might be the case.
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Powell graduated so he's gone either way. Don't get your point at all unless you think a stronger BE is good for us which might be the case.
He’s made of glass. Let Seton Hall have him. Maybe we’ll see him once.
He’s played 25 games in two years. Before that, he played 14 games. No thanks.
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Rothstein - Omer Yurtseven tells me that he has declared for the 2020 NBA Draft and will not return to Georgetown next season.
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Rothstein's offseason breakdown:
https://collegehoopstoday.com/index.php/rothstein-files/big-east-offseason-breakdown/
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BC (preseason picked 14th in the ACC) giving Nova all they can handle so far.
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Louisville edges Seton Hall. A single missed free throw was the difference. Both teams looked fine. Nothing special.
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Tough night for big east...Gtown goes down to Navy / marq losses to Oklahoma state and providence escapes Davidson on a missed layup.....this conference is going to be a crap shoot all year
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Lunardi has 5 big east teams in latest bracket.
Nova , Creighton and X in ....UConn in his last 4 byes, Seton Hall as Last Time In.
Has St. John’s as his 6th team out
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CBS bracket came out today has 6 big east teams in Nova, Creighton , X , UConn , Hall and St. John’s
Has St. John’s in Play in Game last team in.
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CBS bracket came out today has 6 big east teams in Nova, Creighton , X , UConn , Hall and St. John’s
Has St. John’s in Play in Game last team in.
Sounds about right, as of today. We have 7 games left. I think if we go 4-3 we get a tourney bid. That brings us to 16-10 overall and 10-9 in conference. I think if we go 3-4 then we'll need to win at least one game in the BE tourney, most likely two.
Is my math off or are there 19 BE conference games this year instead of 18?
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Sounds about right, as of today. We have 7 games left. I think if we go 4-3 we get a tourney bid. That brings us to 16-10 overall and 10-9 in conference. I think if we go 3-4 then we'll need to win at least one game in the BE tourney, most likely two.
Is my math off or are there 19 BE conference games this year instead of 18?
Still need to reschedule UConn
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Still need to reschedule UConn
That was it, thanks.
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UConn lost to PC ...St John’s moves into 5th place
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Any chance there's fans at the BE tourney after today's news about Cuomo letting arenas host fans on a limited basis?
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https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1394325874674130947
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This could be bad for the Hall
https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/college/basketball/2021/07/14/seton-hall-basketball-myles-powell-sues-injury-kevin-willard/7973515002/
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This could be bad for the Hall
https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/college/basketball/2021/07/14/seton-hall-basketball-myles-powell-sues-injury-kevin-willard/7973515002/
Needs to play out, but the lawsuit is worse than 900000 recruiting violations. Myles Powell is the face of Seton Hall basketball. The guy I'm sure Willard tries to sell to every kid he recruits. And here Powell is alleging in court that Willard lied to him about an injury to benefit Willard's career, without giving a s*** about Powell's. It's not just bad; it is potentially insanely bad.
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Needs to play out, but the lawsuit is worse than 900000 recruiting violations. Myles Powell is the face of Seton Hall basketball. The guy I'm sure Willard tries to sell to every kid he recruits. And here Powell is alleging in court that Willard lied to him about an injury to benefit Willard's career, without giving a s*** about Powell's. It's not just bad; it is potentially insanely bad.
Of course, we don’t know what really happened yet, but this will sink their recruiting.