6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marco Baldi on January 15, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
11th seed play in game vs NC State. Winner would get Northern Iowa
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Not a bad draw. Still hoping for much more. A lot of season left, play in game would be a disappointment
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We're gonna have to be careful to avoid one of those 5 - 12 upsets
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Not a bad draw. Still hoping for much more. A lot of season left, play in game would be a disappointment
We can't be picky. No seed would be a disappointment after our long dry spells
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We are the last team in btw
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Long way to go before it is even worth having these conversations. Let's get back to .500 in the Big East first, lol.
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Bracketology should not be done until mid Feb IMO. This is so pointless
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Bracketology should not be done until mid Feb IMO. This is so pointless
I disagree. Being the last team in shows that there is a lot of work do. Win the games you are supposed to win and a few you aren't to leave no doubt
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We are 1-3, when most on this board thought we'd be 2-2 at the absolute worst. We have a TON of work to do. I don't think anyone would dispute that Baldi.
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As some have noted, every game counts and is a play in game until we actually see it on the board. No team should ever relax, not even a top 10 ranked team.
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In my opinion, this team is capable of a top 20 ranking and no worse than a 5 seed. I would be unhappy just squeezing in although beggars cant be choosers
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On another bright not the BE leads the way with 7 teams in...I know its early but I'm happy the league is doing so much better at this point compares toast season. Long road ahead but nice to see an improvement...Only time I will generally root for a league as a whole.
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We are 1-3, when most on this board thought we'd be 2-2 at the absolute worst. We have a TON of work to do. I don't think anyone would dispute that Baldi.
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We're not in an insurmountable hole, we just need to keep working.
This isn't going to be easy, but this team is capable of playing in the NCAAs.
But beware! We've seen this before!
Last night was the type of win that masks our deficiencies, and isn't necessarily a repeatable strategy.
We're a terrible shooting team, I say this as a matter of fact since we are last in the conference in 3pt%. And yet last night we shot +50% from beyond the arc. Not repeatable on a regular basis.
We got out rebounded, as is our norm lately.
And we lucked into our opponent shooting terribly from the foul line.
These are not the marks of a team that is clicking or that will start winning consistently. I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer, but that's reality.
If we won because Jordan proved to be a viable second scorer and was getting into the lane... then OK. Or if we started to utilize Obekpa in a pick and roll situation, with lobs to the rim. Ok.
But we didnt. We won because Phil and Dangelo hit an unusual percentage of 3s.
To some extent we took what they gave us, and that's fine. If they're going to play zone we need to shoot well to win. But this team is no different than the one we saw in November and the beginning of January. Don't expect different results.
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We are 1-3, when most on this board thought we'd be 2-2 at the absolute worst. We have a TON of work to do. I don't think anyone would dispute that Baldi.
But this team is no different than the one we saw in November and the beginning of January. Don't expect different results.
Heck, sign me up for the same results. I'll take a 22-8 record!
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Not a bad draw. Still hoping for much more. A lot of season left, play in game would be a disappointment
We can't be picky. No seed would be a disappointment after our long dry spells
That's true, and further to that point, the better seed doesn't always come with the better match up. Duke could have played Uconn in the first round and they probably would have beaten them. Instead, they got a Mercer team that shot the lights out.
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I don't think we hit an unusual amount of 3's. Phil was wide open on most of his looks. If they play the same defense next time I think we have the same outcome. I didn't check the stats but just like November and December I did not notice us getting killed on the boards. This game was not like Nova.
We beat a good team in a difficult building by double digits . Depaull, Marquette, Creightin next in conference . I think they are clearly the poorest teams in the Big East. Out team has holes, but so do most.
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I don't think we hit an unusual amount of 3's. Phil was wide open on most of his looks. If they play the same defense next time I think we have the same outcome. I didn't check the stats but just like November and December I did not notice us getting killed on the boards. This game was not like Nova.
We beat a good team in a difficult building by double digits . Depaull, Marquette, Creightin next in conference . I think they are clearly the poorest teams in the Big East. Out team has holes, but so do most.
We shot almost 60% from 3, and were out-rebounded 29-44.
In an empty gym we won't shoot 60% most days.
An ugly win is better than a pretty loss any day of the week, I'm just trying to point out that weve been doing these same things all season. And in many of our inconference games this is going to lead to a loss.
Which isn't to mention the fact that Harrison Obekpa and Dom can't stay out of foul trouble.
If you discount the cupcakes, when they got significant rest, you'll notice that against Gonzaga and in all of our conference games those 3 are always in foul trouble, if not fouling out. I agree that weve been the recipient of some bad calls, and we do rely on them to play a ton of minutes ... but I can pretty much guarantee you that if we have a close game in late february, or in the BE tournament, those 3 will either be hamstrung or have fouled out with 2 mins to go.
again, recipe for a loss.
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And fwiw, our opponents in close games always have their best players available.
Harrison dom and obekpa all average 3.3 or more fouls per game.
gibbs, henton, smith-rivera, Dunham, hilliard, etc are all 1.4, 1.9, 2 fouls per game at most.
Again, I don't fault the players entirely but look at our patterns:
We get out rebounded
our best players are always in foul trouble
we have limited depth
And on most nights we dont shoot well from outside
How does this equal an NCAA team?
Sure, we're gritty and play good D, and we score just enough to beat some teams.
But against top 25-caliber teams, we're going to lose. And that's disappointing. We should be able to beat good teams by this point. We have talent and experience.
But the lack of coaching and the roster makeup are going to continue to hold us back. We're ecstatic today because we got meaningful minutes from Amar. And I agree, he showed promise, but top 25 teams, sweet16-type teams, have benches that contribute! And we're rejoicing because our 7th man didn't dribble the ball of his foot. Our fanbase is so starved for success that they have 1) lowered their expectations to applaud mediocrity and 2) can't tell the difference between a mirage and what a good basketball team looks like anymore.
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And fwiw, our opponents in close games always have their best players available.
Harrison dom and obekpa all average 3.3 or more fouls per game.
gibbs, henton, smith-rivera, Dunham, hilliard, etc are all 1.4, 1.9, 2 fouls per game at most.
Again, I don't fault the players entirely but look at our patterns:
We get out rebounded
our best players are always in foul trouble
we have limited depth
And on most nights we dont shoot well from outside
How does this equal an NCAA team?
Sure, we're gritty and play good D, and we score just enough to beat some teams.
But against top 25-caliber teams, we're going to lose. And that's disappointing. We should be able to beat good teams by this point. We have talent and experience.
But the lack of coaching and the roster makeup are going to continue to hold us back. We're ecstatic today because we got meaningful minutes from Amar. And I agree, he showed promise, but top 25 teams, sweet16-type teams, have benches that contribute! And we're rejoicing because our 7th man didn't dribble the ball of his foot. Our fanbase is so starved for success that they have 1) lowered their expectations to applaud mediocrity and 2) can't tell the difference between a mirage and what a good basketball team looks like anymore.
Guess I won't watch any more games this year. Season is over.
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And fwiw, our opponents in close games always have their best players available.
Harrison dom and obekpa all average 3.3 or more fouls per game.
gibbs, henton, smith-rivera, Dunham, hilliard, etc are all 1.4, 1.9, 2 fouls per game at most.
Again, I don't fault the players entirely but look at our patterns:
We get out rebounded
our best players are always in foul trouble
we have limited depth
And on most nights we dont shoot well from outside
How does this equal an NCAA team?
Sure, we're gritty and play good D, and we score just enough to beat some teams.
But against top 25-caliber teams, we're going to lose. And that's disappointing. We should be able to beat good teams by this point. We have talent and experience.
But the lack of coaching and the roster makeup are going to continue to hold us back. We're ecstatic today because we got meaningful minutes from Amar. And I agree, he showed promise, but top 25 teams, sweet16-type teams, have benches that contribute! And we're rejoicing because our 7th man didn't dribble the ball of his foot. Our fanbase is so starved for success that they have 1) lowered their expectations to applaud mediocrity and 2) can't tell the difference between a mirage and what a good basketball team looks like anymore.
Not every NCAA team is in the top 25. Right now we have beaten some potential top 25 teams to include Providence. The win gets the team in the right track and avoids the pitfalls of last year up until Sunday, where if we lose we are right back where we started from.
The Nova game became a 5 on 3 when CO was hurt and had foul trouble, SirDom fouled out and Jordan forgot that there was a game going on.
The start 5 especially CO and Dom are going to have to be careful with their fouls for the rest of the year...They were able to get away with it during non conference but hopefully they are learning to adjust during he early part of the season.
Hopefully Amir was not a fluke in this game and he can actually contribute a body, defense, and a few buckets. This will help CO and Dom stay out of trouble.
There is a lot of hope in this but the potential is there and you know Harrison is willing this team to the tournament. What needs to stop is the college soap opera and everyone having the same mindset...Whicj should not be an issue anymore.
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I meant to say say that hopefully Dom and CO learn to avoid foul trouble during the early part of the BE season...
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And fwiw, our opponents in close games always have their best players available.
Harrison dom and obekpa all average 3.3 or more fouls per game.
gibbs, henton, smith-rivera, Dunham, hilliard, etc are all 1.4, 1.9, 2 fouls per game at most.
Again, I don't fault the players entirely but look at our patterns:
We get out rebounded
our best players are always in foul trouble
we have limited depth
And on most nights we dont shoot well from outside
How does this equal an NCAA team?
Sure, we're gritty and play good D, and we score just enough to beat some teams.
But against top 25-caliber teams, we're going to lose(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png). And that's disappointing. We should be able to beat good teams by this point. We have talent and experience.
But the lack of coaching and the roster makeup are going to continue(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) to hold us back. We're ecstatic today because we got meaningful minutes from Amar. And I agree, he showed promise, but top 25 teams, sweet16-type teams, have benches that contribute! And we're rejoicing because our 7th man didn't dribble the ball of his foot. Our fanbase is so starved for success that they have 1) lowered their expectations to applaud mediocrity and 2) can't tell the difference between a mirage and what a good basketball team looks like anymore.
Not every NCAA team is in the top 25. Right now we have beaten some potential top 25 teams to include Providence. The win gets the team in the right track and avoids the pitfalls of last year up until Sunday, where if we lose(http://cdncache-a.akamaihd.net/items/it/img/arrow-10x10.png) we are right back where we started from.
The Nova game became a 5 on 3 when CO was hurt and had foul trouble, SirDom fouled out and Jordan forgot that there was a game going on.
The start 5 especially CO and Dom are going to have to be careful with their fouls for the rest of the year...They were able to get away with it during non conference but hopefully they are learning to adjust during he early part of the season.
Hopefully Amir was not a fluke in this game and he can actually contribute a body, defense, and a few buckets. This will help CO and Dom stay out of trouble.
There is a lot of hope in this but the potential is there and you know Harrison is willing this team to the tournament. What needs to stop is the college soap opera and everyone having the same mindset...Whicj should not be an issue anymore.
Amen, Brother.
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http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/16/turnover-three-new-teams-join-kentucky-atop-the-bracket/
CBT has us as a 7 seed.
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http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/16/turnover-three-new-teams-join-kentucky-atop-the-bracket/
CBT has us as a 7 seed.
I like that road to the sweet 16. Ok st and Louisville are beatable
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All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.
SJU currently at 23
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
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All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.
SJU currently at 23
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
What about the wins?
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All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.
SJU currently at 23
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
What about the wins?
Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.
Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.
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All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.
SJU currently at 23
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
What about the wins?
Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.
Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.
Best win is actually Providence at #21.
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Not many quality wins but we only played 4 conference games. Plenty of chances coming for some good wins .
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All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.
SJU currently at 23
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
What about the wins?
Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.
Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.
Best win is actually Providence at #21.
Nice to have two top-50 road wins on the resume. Kinda gets that part of it out of the way. Now we just need to win our home BE games, and the road games against marq, creigh and depaul. FWIW as of right now kenpom has us as a 1 pt favorite in the Duke game winning 53% of the time. Game by game projections have us winning 11 more games, but the overall projected record (which accounts for the randomness of actually playing a game) is expecting two additional losses and has us finishing 21-10.
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All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.
SJU currently at 23
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
What about the wins?
Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.
Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.
I don't see Syracuse being a good win
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The worst loss we have is Butler right now, would that be considered a bad loss? The key difference this year is that we don't have really bad losses early which makes us ahead of the game compared to every other year under Lavin. The good news is that we don't have to dig out of a bad loss whole like years past...This is all dependent on how we do in the BE. Finishing 3rd or 4th this year as of right now would get us in, compared to last year where Providence had to win the whole damn thing to squeak in.
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Syracuse Is 4-0 in acc and 13-4 overall. That's a great win.
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All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.
SJU currently at 23
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI
What about the wins?
Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.
Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.
I don't see Syracuse being a good win
top 50 RPI, kenpom, BPI. Receiving votes in the poll. Not sure what metric you use, but that about covers it all. Add in that it was @Syracuse and it is a very good win.
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Syracuse Is 4-0 in acc and 13-4 overall. That's a great win.
But 0-2 vs. the BE. Proof that the BE is better :P
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Syracuse Is 4-0 in acc and 13-4 overall. That's a great win.
They beat Georgia Tech, Florida St, Virginia tech and wake Forrest.
Wasn't DePaul 3-0 in the Big East at some point?
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Minnesota is 0-5 and in last place in the Big 10 by the way
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To say beating Cuse on the road is not a good win, is silly. What could be said, is that we beat a Cuse team on the road that is not as good as years past. We also do not have one bad loss so far this season. As of today, all of our loses are to teams that are predicted to be in the tournament. Not to mention, we are 4-4 vs top 100 and have the opportunity to pick up wins against the teams we lost too in the conference. It is one of the true benefits of being in the new big east. Balanced schedules can give you an edge against similar teams fighting to get into tourny outside of the BE.
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Yes but they are still Syracuse . Going to win a bunch of games at home and be decent on the road. Play 2 games below .500 rest of the way they make tournament easy . They could easily play better then that .
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Yes but they are still Syracuse . Going to win a bunch of games at home and be decent on the road. Play 2 games below .500 rest of the way they make tournament easy . They could easily play better then that .
And Providence is still Providence. And that's the best win so far this season
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U said Syracuse was not a good win. That makes no sense
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U said Syracuse was not a good win. That makes no sense
You said Syracuse is still Syracuse. They are an NIT team at best thisyear.
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@ Syracuse is a good win. Not a great win, not a super win that the selection committee will circle and highlight. But a good win.
To say otherwise is just being argumentative.
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@ Syracuse is a good win. Not a great win, not a super win that the selection committee will circle and highlight. But a good win.
To say otherwise is just being argumentative.
Wake Forrest just took them to OT in the house that Melo built. Wake sucks.
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@ Syracuse is a good win. Not a great win, not a super win that the selection committee will circle and highlight. But a good win.
To say otherwise is just being argumentative.
13-4 and 13-3 St.Mary's probably our best wins. It's great more for what it means to us. SU has overachieved this year. Let's hope they dance, because our resume has taken a hit w Minnesota.
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@ Syracuse is a good win. Not a great win, not a super win that the selection committee will circle and highlight. But a good win.
To say otherwise is just being argumentative.
Wake Forrest just took them to OT in the house that Melo built. Wake sucks.
SU isn't typical SU, but 13-4 is 13-4. They are finding a way. No matter what, it's tough to win up there. In any year.
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@ Syracuse is a good win. Not a great win, not a super win that the selection committee will circle and highlight. But a good win.
To say otherwise is just being argumentative.
13-4 and 13-3 St.Mary's probably our best wins. It's great more for what it means to us. SU has overachieved this year. Let's hope they dance, because our resume has taken a hit w Minnesota.
Syracuse plays nobody and they are going to get spanked the 2nd half of the season. Right now Providence is the best win. Yes that Providence
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@ Syracuse is a good win. Not a great win, not a super win that the selection committee will circle and highlight. But a good win.
To say otherwise is just being argumentative.
13-4 and 13-3 St.Mary's probably our best wins. It's great more for what it means to us. SU has overachieved this year. Let's hope they dance, because our resume has taken a hit w Minnesota.
I agree. the Syracuse win means more to us at St Johns than it does to a selection committee or voters. We needed to get the monkey off our back.
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They also just lost Chris McCullough for the year, which is a major hit.
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Better hope Butler or Georgetown is ranked next time we play them. Otherwise it's just Duke, Seton Hall and Villanova who are top 25 wins. We were just ranked and Lunardi has us last team in. How d we improve that by beating the likes of Creighton and DePaul?
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Baldi if we get into the low 20s, no matter how we do it, we are going to get in. You are right though in that it would be nice to have a couple of W's over teams that are in the top 25 when we play them.
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Baldi if we get into the low 20s, no matter how we do it, we are going to get in. You are right though in that it would be nice to have a couple of W's over teams that are in the top 25 when we play them.
Halfway through the year and Providence is the best win. If this team doesn't man up and win some games we are not supposed to, we will be sweating it out selection Sunday. Aren't you sick and turned of watching everyone else play in the tourny? This team has plenty of experience, no more excuses. Beat someone worth a damn
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Agreed.
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Team is 12-4 . Can only play one game at a time . Would love to play and win a big game tonight. Sadly none are scheduled . We play DePaul Sunday , let's take care of business . Marquette isn't very good ,Wednesday again let's win . Big game next Sunday . 14-4 vs duke. Garden should be rocking
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Halfway through the year and Providence is the best win. If this team doesn't man up and win some games we are not supposed to, we will be sweating it out selection Sunday. Aren't you sick and turned of watching everyone else play in the tourny? This team has plenty of experience, no more excuses. Beat someone worth a damn
(http://capstonereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Marshall-480x445.jpg)
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Halfway through the year and Providence is the best win. If this team doesn't man up and win some games we are not supposed to, we will be sweating it out selection Sunday. Aren't you sick and turned of watching everyone else play in the tourny? This team has plenty of experience, no more excuses. Beat someone worth a damn
(http://capstonereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Marshall-480x445.jpg)
Clever Dink!
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Great posts fellas! Sucks when reality slaps you in the face doesn't it?
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Great posts fellas! Sucks when reality slaps you in the face doesn't it?
Baldi I am curious about your logic regarding the Providence win. If you are saying it is not a good win because they are still Providence and haven't been good, why does that same logic not apply to the Syracuse win? Syracuse has been very good, therefore it should be a very good win with your logic. But you state that it is not a good win. Either the Syracuse win is a very good win for their history or the Providence win is for being a top 25 road win (or both). Sounds like you are just saying whatever possible to disparage the SJU basketball team's record. Sucks when the reality of your hypocrisy slaps you in the face, doesn't it?
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Great posts fellas! Sucks when reality slaps you in the face doesn't it?
Baldi I am curious about your logic regarding the Providence win. If you are saying it is not a good win because they are still Providence and haven't been good, why does that same logic not apply to the Syracuse win? Syracuse has been very good, therefore it should be a very good win with your logic. But you state that it is not a good win. Either the Syracuse win is a very good win for their history or the Providence win is for being a top 25 road win (or both). Sounds like you are just saying whatever possible to disparage the SJU basketball team's record. Sucks when the reality of your hypocrisy slaps you in the face, doesn't it?
So Syracuse is a good win because they were good in the past?
If the rationale is that the Syracuse win is good because they were good in the past, wouldn't it be the same in the Providence win. They have sucked in the past
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Great posts fellas! Sucks when reality slaps you in the face doesn't it?
Baldi I am curious about your logic regarding the Providence win. If you are saying it is not a good win because they are still Providence and haven't been good, why does that same logic not apply to the Syracuse win? Syracuse has been very good, therefore it should be a very good win with your logic. But you state that it is not a good win. Either the Syracuse win is a very good win for their history or the Providence win is for being a top 25 road win (or both). Sounds like you are just saying whatever possible to disparage the SJU basketball team's record. Sucks when the reality of your hypocrisy slaps you in the face, doesn't it?
So Syracuse is a good win because they were good in the past?
If the rationale is that the Syracuse win is good because they were good in the past, wouldn't it be the same in the Providence win. They have sucked in the past
haha, I usually don't respond to trolls, but this was actually pretty good. I can't wait for the 10 posts of people who refute this.
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Great posts fellas! Sucks when reality slaps you in the face doesn't it?
Reality is that our current resume is solid - SOS 9, RPI 28, KenPom 26, no losses outside of top 50. Win 9 more any which way and we are in. Not sure why beating two top 50 teams on the road are so troubling to you
There's a lot to complain about, and a tourney bid is far from certain, but your posts on this thread are not accurate. I know you are upset that we didn't schedule Iona but be objective.
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Some posts were archived. Lets not talk about each other or other's family. Keep it on hoops guys.
Thanks
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Friday night and you guys are getting sucked into Baldi's troll game.
Never learn.
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Friday night and you guys are getting sucked into Baldi's troll game.
Never learn.
A post after I said keep discussion on hoops...SMH. C'mon man!
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21-10 and were a lock. 20-11 so-so. But I feel a 9-9 record in this years big east would equal an 11-7 in last years based on competition.
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Great posts fellas! Sucks when reality slaps you in the face doesn't it?
Baldi I am curious about your logic regarding the Providence win. If you are saying it is not a good win because they are still Providence and haven't been good, why does that same logic not apply to the Syracuse win? Syracuse has been very good, therefore it should be a very good win with your logic. But you state that it is not a good win. Either the Syracuse win is a very good win for their history or the Providence win is for being a top 25 road win (or both). Sounds like you are just saying whatever possible to disparage the SJU basketball team's record. Sucks when the reality of your hypocrisy slaps you in the face, doesn't it?
So Syracuse is a good win because they were good in the past?
If the rationale is that the Syracuse win is good because they were good in the past, wouldn't it be the same in the Providence win. They have sucked in the past
It seems you missed the part where that was referencing your logic on why Providence was not a good win. Did you not imply that Providence was not a good win because they have been bad? My point, was that you can't use that logic to call a Providence win bad, but not apply it to Syracuse (given their successful recent history). The only reason I acknowledged that silly line of rationale, is that I was hoping that if we adhered to your logic, maybe it would resonate more; but clearly, even you cannot follow your own logic, so we'll go with mine.
As I stated earlier, at this point in the season Syracuse is top 50 in RPI, BPI, Kenpom, and is receiving votes in both national polls. And it was on the road. That's why Syracuse is a good win. Providence is a good win for much of the same reasons. Perhaps a personal bias of yours prevents you from seeing it that way, but facts is facts.
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Great posts fellas! Sucks when reality slaps you in the face doesn't it?
Baldi I am curious about your logic regarding the Providence win. If you are saying it is not a good win because they are still Providence and haven't been good, why does that same logic not apply to the Syracuse win? Syracuse has been very good, therefore it should be a very good win with your logic. But you state that it is not a good win. Either the Syracuse win is a very good win for their history or the Providence win is for being a top 25 road win (or both). Sounds like you are just saying whatever possible to disparage the SJU basketball team's record. Sucks when the reality of your hypocrisy slaps you in the face, doesn't it?
So Syracuse is a good win because they were good in the past?
If the rationale is that the Syracuse win is good because they were good in the past, wouldn't it be the same in the Providence win. They have sucked in the past
It seems you missed the part where that was referencing your logic on why Providence was not a good win. Did you not imply that Providence was not a good win because they have been bad? My point, was that you can't use that logic to call a Providence win bad, but not apply it to Syracuse (given their successful recent history). The only reason I acknowledged that silly line of rationale, is that I was hoping that if we adhered to your logic, maybe it would resonate more; but clearly, even you cannot follow your own logic, so we'll go with mine.
As I stated earlier, at this point in the season Syracuse is top 50 in RPI, BPI, Kenpom, and is receiving votes in both national polls. And it was on the road. That's why Syracuse is a good win. Providence is a good win for much of the same reasons. Perhaps a personal bias of yours prevents you from seeing it that way, but facts is facts.
Great posts fellas! Sucks when reality slaps you in the face doesn't it?
Baldi I am curious about your logic regarding the Providence win. If you are saying it is not a good win because they are still Providence and haven't been good, why does that same logic not apply to the Syracuse win? Syracuse has been very good, therefore it should be a very good win with your logic. But you state that it is not a good win. Either the Syracuse win is a very good win for their history or the Providence win is for being a top 25 road win (or both). Sounds like you are just saying whatever possible to disparage the SJU basketball team's record. Sucks when the reality of your hypocrisy slaps you in the face, doesn't it?
So Syracuse is a good win because they were good in the past?
If the rationale is that the Syracuse win is good because they were good in the past, wouldn't it be the same in the Providence win. They have sucked in the past
It seems you missed the part where that was referencing your logic on why Providence was not a good win. Did you not imply that Providence was not a good win because they have been bad? My point, was that you can't use that logic to call a Providence win bad, but not apply it to Syracuse (given their successful recent history). The only reason I acknowledged that silly line of rationale, is that I was hoping that if we adhered to your logic, maybe it would resonate more; but clearly, even you cannot follow your own logic, so we'll go with mine.
As I stated earlier, at this point in the season Syracuse is top 50 in RPI, BPI, Kenpom, and is receiving votes in both national polls. And it was on the road. That's why Syracuse is a good win. Providence is a good win for much of the same reasons. Perhaps a personal bias of yours prevents you from seeing it that way, but facts is facts.
Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
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Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
They certainly have work left to do (at this point in the season, nearly everyone does), but they are trending in the right direction. Same goes for Providence (although they are in better shape in terms of meaningful wins).
*Lunardi currently has Syr as an 11 seed and Prov as an 8 seed, he sees them both as in at this point.
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Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
They certainly have work left to do (at this point in the season, nearly everyone does), but they are trending in the right direction. Same goes for Providence (although they are in better shape in terms of meaningful wins).
Syracuse has the meat of the schedule coming up. I can't see them trending in the right direction. They've played 2 ranked teams and loss both. And one was an awful Michigan team.
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I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
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I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
Ask those questions once the regular season is nearly over. Not mid-January.
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I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
Ask those questions once the regular season is nearly over. Not mid-January.
How many possible good wins do we have left on the schedule?
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I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
Ask those questions once the regular season is nearly over. Not mid-January.
How many possible good wins do we have left on the schedule?
Figure it out yourself since you seem to have the answers to "Selection Sunday."
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Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
They certainly have work left to do (at this point in the season, nearly everyone does), but they are trending in the right direction. Same goes for Providence (although they are in better shape in terms of meaningful wins).
Syracuse has the meat of the schedule coming up. I can't see them trending in the right direction. They've played 2 ranked teams and loss both. And one was an awful Michigan team.
They've won 7 games in a row, seems like a trend so far. They have 5 chances for big wins the rest of the way - three at home, two on the road and about 5 other chances for good wins.
I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
As it stands right now, @Syr is a good win, and @Prov is good bordering on very good. If we just win our home games excluding Duke, we would add Prov again, Seton Hall, Xavier, and Georgetown. 6 top 50 wins is not a bad way to build a resume, and that's assuming we don't win any more tough road games.
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All of this is a waste of breath. We are getting a bid.
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I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
Ask those questions once the regular season is nearly over. Not mid-January.
How many possible good wins do we have left on the schedule?
Figure it out yourself since you seem to have the answers to "Selection Sunday."
It's a question asking your opinion.
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I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
Ask those questions once the regular season is nearly over. Not mid-January.
How many possible good wins do we have left on the schedule?
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I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
Ask those questions once the regular season is nearly over. Not mid-January.
How many possible good wins do we have left on the schedule?
Figure it out yourself since you seem to have the answers to "Selection Sunday."
It's a question asking your opinion.
Actually, LoganK gave a good, synopsis on what can be done to add more quality wins. So, you can lump me in with his breakdown.
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2-4 vsRPI top 50 teams at the moment
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Correct. And we're 7-0 against everyone not in the top 20. We were on the bubble last season with 2 top 50 wins. Assume we get 4 more as I mentioned, and I would have to believe we're in good shape.
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2-4 vsRPI top 50 teams at the moment
Okay. Still time left to enhance that situation.
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Correct. And we're 7-0 against everyone not in the top 20. We were on the bubble last season with 2 top 50 wins. Assume we get 4 more as I mentioned, and I would have to believe we're in good shape.
Agreed. Why is Syracuse in at the solid 11 and we are the play in 11? Their Rpi is 43, ours 23. STJohns beat them. And Syracuse is 0 for against top 50 teams?
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Correct. And we're 7-0 against everyone not in the top 20. We were on the bubble last season with 2 top 50 wins. Assume we get 4 more as I mentioned, and I would have to believe we're in good shape.
Agreed. Why is Syracuse in at the solid 11 and we are the play in 11? Their Rpi is 43, ours 23. STJohns beat them. And Syracuse is 0 for against top 50 teams?
You've got me on that one. ACC bias?
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Past few years analysts would talk about a "weak bubble", and how the teams on the bubble line weren't much to look at. It seems like that is almost always the case however this year, although it may be really early for this talk, I see the bubble being much stronger than in years past. Just my observation
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Past few years analysts would talk about a "weak bubble", and how the teams on the bubble line weren't much to look at. It seems like that is almost always the case however this year, although it may be really early for this talk, I see the bubble being much stronger than in years past. Just my observation
Agree
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I think of it like this. On selection Sunday, who will be on our "good wins" list?
Ask those questions once the regular season is nearly over. Not mid-January.
How many possible good wins do we have left on the schedule?
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At least 7 and if Creighton, DP, Xavier or Marquette improve, maybe more
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Correct. And we're 7-0 against everyone not in the top 20. We were on the bubble last season with 2 top 50 wins. Assume we get 4 more as I mentioned, and I would have to believe we're in good shape.
Agreed. Why is Syracuse in at the solid 11 and we are the play in 11? Their Rpi is 43, ours 23. STJohns beat them. And Syracuse is 0 for against top 50 teams?
You've got me Correct. And we're 7-0 against everyone not in the top 20. We were on the bubble last season with 2 top 50 wins. Assume we get 4 more as I mentioned, and I would have to believe we're in good shape.
Very simple why. If we are talking linardis bracket He has said his projections are based on what is going on as of today. Cuse right now is a top team in acc by record. However they have beaten bottom teams. Their rpi is good but no great wins. Kind of like way providence was last yr. winning big east to get auto bid but didn't have quality wins giving them 11 seed.
In sju case 2 good wins, both on road. However 1-3 in conference. Linardi is giving more credit to our wins by putting us in but at 1-3 in conference hinders us at being a solid 11. Sju seeding will go up with just winning as long as teams like cuse keep winning. When they start losing that win will seem as less valuable. That's where beating good teams rest of way plays a big role.
Agreed. Why is Syracuse in at the solid 11 and we are the play in 11? Their Rpi is 43, ours 23. STJohns beat them. And Syracuse is 0 for against top 50 teams?
Correct. And we're 7-0 against everyone not in the top 20. We were on the bubble last season with 2 top 50 wins. Assume we get 4 more as I mentioned, and I would have to believe we're in good shape.
Agreed. Why is Syracuse in at the solid 11 and we are the play in 11? Their Rpi is 43, ours 23. STJohns beat them. And Syracuse is 0 for against top 50 teams?
on that one. ACC bias?
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Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
They certainly have work left to do (at this point in the season, nearly everyone does), but they are trending in the right direction. Same goes for Providence (although they are in better shape in terms of meaningful wins).
Syracuse has the meat of the schedule coming up. I can't see them trending in the right direction. They've played 2 ranked teams and loss both. And one was an awful Michigan team.
Came within one possession of beating Nova on a road. I see them getting getter as the season goes on and finding their way to a 6/7 seed. Don't forget they have a coach who knows what he's doing.
Do you really think they can't beat Virginia, Duke or Maryland?
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Our resume look better next week. 14-4 , 3-3 in conference with Duke on deck. If we lose the next 2 don't belong in the tournament
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Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
They certainly have work left to do (at this point in the season, nearly everyone does), but they are trending in the right direction. Same goes for Providence (although they are in better shape in terms of meaningful wins).
Syracuse has the meat of the schedule coming up. I can't see them trending in the right direction. They've played 2 ranked teams and loss both. And one was an awful Michigan team.
Came within one possession of beating Nova on a road. I see them getting getter as the season goes on and finding their way to a 6/7 seed. Don't forget they have a coach who knows what he's doing.
Do you really think they can't beat Virginia, Duke or Maryland?
No, I dont think they can. And they are down 1 starter
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Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
They certainly have work left to do (at this point in the season, nearly everyone does), but they are trending in the right direction. Same goes for Providence (although they are in better shape in terms of meaningful wins).
Syracuse has the meat of the schedule coming up. I can't see them trending in the right direction. They've played 2 ranked teams and loss both. And one was an awful Michigan team.
Came within one possession of beating Nova on a road. I see them getting getter as the season goes on and finding their way to a 6/7 seed. Don't forget they have a coach who knows what he's doing.
Do you really think they can't beat Virginia, Duke or Maryland?
No, I dont think they can. And they are down 1 starter
We'll see what happens. I think they'll finish towards the top of the league, and Boeheim will find players to replace the guys they've lost. And I think that because he always does.
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Very simple why. If we are talking linardis bracket He has said his projections are based on what is going on as of today. Cuse right now is a top team in acc by record. However they have beaten bottom teams. Their rpi is good but no great wins. Kind of like way providence was last yr. winning big east to get auto bid but didn't have quality wins giving them 11 seed.
In sju case 2 good wins, both on road. However 1-3 in conference. Linardi is giving more credit to our wins by putting us in but at 1-3 in conference hinders us at being a solid 11. Sju seeding will go up with just winning as long as teams like cuse keep winning. When they start losing that win will seem as less valuable. That's where beating good teams rest of way plays a big role.
Conference record is not supposed to be part of the equation. Neither is head to head results or whether or not you're "hot" heading into the tournament (obviously, they may have an affect as the committee is subjective, but they are not supposed to). As Virginia was the AQ from the ACC in that bracket, Lunardi, for whatever reason just considers Syracuse's profile to be better than ours at this point in time, which is baffling to me.
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Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
They certainly have work left to do (at this point in the season, nearly everyone does), but they are trending in the right direction. Same goes for Providence (although they are in better shape in terms of meaningful wins).
Syracuse has the meat of the schedule coming up. I can't see them trending in the right direction. They've played 2 ranked teams and loss both. And one was an awful Michigan team.
Came within one possession of beating Nova on a road. I see them getting getter as the season goes on and finding their way to a 6/7 seed. Don't forget they have a coach who knows what he's doing.
Do you really think they can't beat Virginia, Duke or Maryland?
No, I dont think they can. And they are down 1 starter
On paper I agree, but Duke just lost to NC State and Miami. Kentucky went to OT against Texas A&M and Ole Miss (who I would consider worse than Cuse). Anything can happen in a given game....other than a 16 beating a 1. It's certainly plausible that Syr can steal one or two of their big opportunities (Duke x2, Louisville, Virginia, possibly ND and UNC as well).
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Do you see Syracuse in the NCAA tournament?
They certainly have work left to do (at this point in the season, nearly everyone does), but they are trending in the right direction. Same goes for Providence (although they are in better shape in terms of meaningful wins).
Syracuse has the meat of the schedule coming up. I can't see them trending in the right direction. They've played 2 ranked teams and loss both. And one was an awful Michigan team.
Came within one possession of beating Nova on a road. I see them getting getter as the season goes on and finding their way to a 6/7 seed. Don't forget they have a coach who knows what he's doing.
Do you really think they can't beat Virginia, Duke or Maryland?
No, I dont think they can. And they are down 1 starter
On paper I agree, but Duke just lost to NC State and Miami. Kentucky went to OT against Texas A&M and Ole Miss (who I would consider worse than Cuse). Anything can happen in a given game....other than a 16 beating a 1. It's certainly plausible that Syr can steal one or two of their big opportunities (Duke x2, Louisville, Virginia, possibly ND and UNC as well).
@syrbasketball: Halftime: Clemson 39, Syracuse 18.
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@syrbasketball: Halftime: Clemson 39, Syracuse 18.
:2funny:
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Lunardi latest. syracuse in the 11 play in game. St Johns out.
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Lunardi latest. syracuse in the 11 play in game. St Johns out.
Yea this was not a good weekend for our profile...still surprised at Syr inclusion.
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We're an 8 seed on cbssports bracketology. BE has much more respect in nearly every bracket except ESPN(I WONDER WHY??!!) Feel that 8 is a bit high but as of right now, the committee wouldn't leave us out with our numbers. Unfortunately a 7-11 record in BE play wont be close to good enough to get in and it seems thats about where this team will be. :-[
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We're an 8 seed on cbssports bracketology. BE has much more respect in nearly every bracket except ESPN(I WONDER WHY??!!) Feel that 8 is a bit high but as of right now, the committee wouldn't leave us out with our numbers. Unfortunately a 7-11 record in BE play wont be close to good enough to get in and it seems thats about where this team will be. :-[
Unfortunately Lunardi is usually right on his predictions.
First Four Out
Colorado State
St. John's
BYU
UConn
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At 1-4 we don't deserve to be anywhere near the NCAA tournament.
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Updated Linardi brackets as of today.
SJU back in the field after last nights win. 11 Seed
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
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Excellent. I think we are going to have knock off a Nova , Hall , Providence and or Georgetown to stay off that bubble
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Excellent. I think we are going to have knock off a Nova , Hall , Providence and or Georgetown to stay off that bubble
I like your positivity. You're coming around!
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Excellent. I think we are going to have knock off a Nova , Hall , Providence and or Georgetown to stay off that bubble
I like your positivity. You're coming around!
Notice ,no mention of Duke
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I'm really dreading our 2 games vs. Xavier. I think those 2 will make or break the season.
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Excellent. I think we are going to have knock off a Nova , Hall , Providence and or Georgetown to stay off that bubble
I like your positivity. You're coming around!
Notice ,no mention of Duke
If we beat Duke, I'm not sure I care what happens the rest of the year!
(I'm kidding, of course)
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Excellent. I think we are going to have knock off a Nova , Hall , Providence and or Georgetown to stay off that bubble
I like your positivity. You're coming around!
Notice ,no mention of Duke
If we beat Duke, I'm not sure I care what happens the rest of the year!
(I'm kidding, of course)
We beat Duke, we're in. Barring a monumental collapse down the stretch here
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Looking at sju remaining schedule. As of today 11of 13 games are against top 100 rpi. 10 vs top 50. Lot can change but man can we control our own destiny.
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Rpi jumped from 40 to 31 tonight
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Lunardi has 7 big east teams in. No DePaul? How is that?
Villanova 2 seed
Georgetown 5
seton Hall and Providence 6
butler 7
Xavier 11
SJU play in 11 game
1st place team in big east not in?
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http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/23/upcoming-stretch-could-have-major-impact-on-dukes-ncaa-tournament-seeding/
10 Seed according to CBT.
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DePaul's RPI is 156, 102 SOS, they are 11-9, and they have at least 3 bad losses. They probably have to win 13 big east games to get in. Won't happen
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DePaul's RPI is 156, 102 SOS, they are 11-9, and they have at least 3 bad losses. They probably have to win 13 big east games to get in. Won't happen
They also beat Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, Seton Hall and St Jphns
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DePaul's RPI is 156, 102 SOS, they are 11-9, and they have at least 3 bad losses. They probably have to win 13 big east games to get in. Won't happen
They also beat Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, Seton Hall and St Jphns
Very telling of who they played played out of conference.
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DePaul's RPI is 156, 102 SOS, they are 11-9, and they have at least 3 bad losses. They probably have to win 13 big east games to get in. Won't happen
They also beat Marquette, Creighton, Xavier, Seton Hall and St Jphns
Very telling of who they played played out of conference.
But they are 5-2 in conference. Are you saying the conference sucks?
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
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And I know it's going to come back to Iona and they would beat Iona by 20 at least.
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And I know it's going to come back to Iona and they would beat Iona by 20 at least.
No. You guys are always the ones to bring it up.
Who has St johns played? And don't tell me Syracuse
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
There is no way you can complain with our OOC schedule. I think it's #20 or around there. How is that on pat with Depaul
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
There is no way you can complain with our OOC schedule. I think it's #20 or around there. How is that on pat with Depaul
DePaul is 5-2 in conference.
Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
There is no way you can complain with our OOC schedule. I think it's #20 or around there. How is that on pat with Depaul
yup, sju will finish with a top 25 SOS, if they don't make the tournament its not due to strength of schedule
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
There is no way you can complain with our OOC schedule. I think it's #20 or around there. How is that on pat with Depaul
DePaul is 5-2 in conference.
Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't
The way DePaul scheduled I would think they need to win The conference to get in. And I do like our chances if we do better in the big east. Obviously 19 wins won't do it anymore regardless. But 22 wins (with BET) and I think were there. I just hope that DePaul doesn't kill our our RPI and Strength of schedule.
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
There is no way you can complain with our OOC schedule. I think it's #20 or around there. How is that on pat with Depaul
yup, sju will finish with a top 25 SOS, if they don't make the tournament its not due to strength of schedule
What will it be due to?
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
There is no way you can complain with our OOC schedule. I think it's #20 or around there. How is that on pat with Depaul
DePaul is 5-2 in conference.
Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't
The way DePaul scheduled I would think they need to win The conference to get in. And I do like our chances if we do better in the big east. Obviously 19 wins won't do it anymore regardless. But 22 wins (with BET) and I think were there. I just hope that DePaul doesn't kill our our RPI and Strength of schedule.
Our RPI is 42. A bunch of a Big a East teams ahead of us saying the same about us
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And I know it's going to come back to Iona and they would beat Iona by 20 at least.
No. You guys are always the ones to bring it up.
Who has St johns played? And don't tell me Syracuse
Well, since youve proven incapable of using Google for as long as I've been frequenting this board, let me do it for you.
http://bit.ly/1yE8EGz
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And I know it's going to come back to Iona and they would beat Iona by 20 at least.
No. You guys are always the ones to bring it up.
Who has St johns played? And don't tell me Syracuse
Well, since youve proven incapable of using Google for as long as I've been frequenting this board, let me do it for you.
http://bit.ly/1yE8EGz
Exactly. They have played nobody.
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And I know it's going to come back to Iona and they would beat Iona by 20 at least.
No. You guys are always the ones to bring it up.
Who has St johns played? And don't tell me Syracuse
Well, since youve proven incapable of using Google for as long as I've been frequenting this board, let me do it for you.
http://bit.ly/1yE8EGz
Exactly. They have played nobody.
How about #5 in the nation, they a nobody?
And while were at it, how about #4?
If #5 and #4 didn't do it for you, have a good time opening REAL WIDE and squeezing those precious lips all the way around #3.
Have a nice day Mr. Baldi ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
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And I know it's going to come back to Iona and they would beat Iona by 20 at least.
No. You guys are always the ones to bring it up.
Who has St johns played? And don't tell me Syracuse
Well, since youve proven incapable of using Google for as long as I've been frequenting this board, let me do it for you.
http://bit.ly/1yE8EGz
Exactly. They have played nobody.
How about #5 in the nation, they a nobody?
And while were at it, how about #4?
If #5 and #4 didn't do it for you, have a good time opening REAL WIDE and squeezing those precious lips all the way around #3.
Have a nice day Mr. Baldi ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Loss Loss and loss
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And I know it's going to come back to Iona and they would beat Iona by 20 at least.
No. You guys are always the ones to bring it up.
Who has St johns played? And don't tell me Syracuse
Well, since youve proven incapable of using Google for as long as I've been frequenting this board, let me do it for you.
http://bit.ly/1yE8EGz
Exactly. They have played nobody.
How about #5 in the nation, they a nobody?
And while were at it, how about #4?
If #5 and #4 didn't do it for you, have a good time opening REAL WIDE and squeezing those precious lips all the way around #3.
Have a nice day Mr. Baldi ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Loss Loss and loss
You asked who we played...
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
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If DePaul ended up with 23 wins (not winning the tourney) they are on the outside looking in. Not sure if it's possible bit they screwed us with their OOC schedule. I really hope they lose every game going forward because they will hurt the league.
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
There is no way you can complain with our OOC schedule. I think it's #20 or around there. How is that on pat with Depaul
DePaul is 5-2 in conference.
Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't
The way DePaul scheduled I would think they need to win The conference to get in. And I do like our chances if we do better in the big east. Obviously 19 wins won't do it anymore regardless. But 22 wins (with BET) and I think were there. I just hope that DePaul doesn't kill our our RPI and Strength of schedule.
Our RPI is 42. A bunch of a Big a East teams ahead of us saying the same about us
For starters, Depaul being 5-2 proves that the BE is one of the best conferences, not the opposite like ESPN and some others (but not here of course :P) are trying to show. The BE performed better than every conference other than the Big XII in non-conference play. So basically, we beat up on everyone else, but our worst team is good enough to beat just about anyone (they also beat Stanford). That shows weakness? More like depth.
As other posters stated, we have a very strong SOS. By the end of the season we will have played 4 top 10 teams (gonzaga, duke, nova, nova), as well as about 15 other games against bubble or better teams. Non-conf we will have played @Syr, Duke, St. Mary's, and Gonzaga (along with minnesota and long beach st., who aren't as strong as expected). You (Baldi) keep harking on the fact that we have played no one OOC , but our non-conf RPI (which essentially rates your record combined with your SOS and I believe your opponent's SOS) is 13. That's 13th in the country. Meaning, given who we played, and the record we turned in, we had the 13th most successful OOC slate (pending Duke) in the country. Of course it's not an exact measurement, but it gives a pretty good idea of what happened.
*Side note, our RPI is showing as 33, not 42. The fact that there are several BE teams ahead of us, again, shows the strength of the conference (something a MAAC fan wouldn't be familiar with ;)).
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
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They played GW and Colorado before the big east and got destroyed. After last year everyone got the memo to schedule stronger out of conference and they didn't. Now we have them beating people in the big east and messing with things. Good for them for winning but they did the league no favors with their crappy OOC schedule.
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/depa-m-baskbl-sched.html
Neither did St Johns. But DePaul was worse
There is no way you can complain with our OOC schedule. I think it's #20 or around there. How is that on pat with Depaul
DePaul is 5-2 in conference.
Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't
The way DePaul scheduled I would think they need to win The conference to get in. And I do like our chances if we do better in the big east. Obviously 19 wins won't do it anymore regardless. But 22 wins (with BET) and I think were there. I just hope that DePaul doesn't kill our our RPI and Strength of schedule.
Our RPI is 42. A bunch of a Big a East teams ahead of us saying the same about us
For starters, Depaul being 5-2 proves that the BE is one of the best conferences, not the opposite like ESPN and some others (but not here of course :P) are trying to show. The BE performed better than every conference other than the Big XII in non-conference play. So basically, we beat up on everyone else, but our worst team is good enough to beat just about anyone (they also beat Stanford). That shows weakness? More like depth.
As other posters stated, we have a very strong SOS. By the end of the season we will have played 4 top 10 teams (gonzaga, duke, nova, nova), as well as about 15 other games against bubble or better teams. Non-conf we will have played @Syr, Duke, St. Mary's, and Gonzaga (along with minnesota and long beach st., who aren't as strong as expected). You (Baldi) keep harking on the fact that we have played no one OOC , but our non-conf RPI (which essentially rates your record combined with your SOS and I believe your opponent's SOS) is 13. That's 13th in the country. Meaning, given who we played, and the record we turned in, we had the 13th most successful OOC slate (pending Duke) in the country. Of course it's not an exact measurement, but it gives a pretty good idea of what happened.
*Side note, our RPI is showing as 33, not 42. The fact that there are several BE teams ahead of us, again, shows the strength of the conference (something a MAAC fan wouldn't be familiar with ;)).
DePaul is in 1st place. How are they the worst team in the conference?
And the best team in the conference lost to Lehigh and LMU?
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Baldi, you start by attacking our strength of schedule (in comparison to Depaul's) and morph the argument into lack of quality wins. Those are two separate issues.
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Baldi, you start by attacking our strength of schedule (in comparison to Depaul's) and morph the argument into lack of quality wins. Those are two separate issues.
Only thing that matters is getting in the tourny. That's why I asked what are our "quality wins" that get us over the hump?
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
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He is just bored messing with you guys
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Baldi, you start by attacking our strength of schedule (in comparison to Depaul's) and morph the argument into lack of quality wins. Those are two separate issues.
Only thing that matters is getting in the tourny. That's why I asked what are our "quality wins" that get us over the hump?
I agree. Just pointing out that that isn't where your argument started.
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
That, combined with our overall record.
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There are 13 games left on our schedule. 9 are vs teams that are going to be considered "Quality" wins come March.
With 13 wins now, we need 22 wins and win our first round big east tournament game giving us 23 to feel comfortable on Selection Sunday.
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
That, combined with our overall record.
Right now our best win is @Prov. I know you don't think that's a good win Baldi, but according to every single poll not done by Humans...it is a good win.
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
I'm simply disproving your original contention: "Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't." Expected SOS is 19. It will help us on Selection Sunday.
We have 9 games remaining against RPI top 50 teams. Win 3 or 4 of them, combined with @Prov, @Cuse and our SOS, and the "resume wins" is also a non issue. If we are a middle of the pack team in conference, our opening BE tourney game will also have a resume win potential.
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
That, combined with our overall record.
Right now our best win is @Prov. I know you don't think that's a good win Baldi, but according to every single poll not done by Humans...it is a good win.
That's 1
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
That, combined with our overall record.
Right now our best win is @Prov. I know you don't think that's a good win Baldi, but according to every single poll not done by Humans...it is a good win.
That's 1
Let's make a deal Baldi, if we beat Duke on Sunday, you shut the #$%^ up for the rest of the year?
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
I'm simply disproving your original contention: "Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't." Expected SOS is 19. It will help us on Selection Sunday.
We have 9 games remaining against RPI top 50 teams. Win 3 or 4 of them, combined with @Prov, @Cuse and our SOS, and the "resume wins" is also a non issue. If we are a middle of the pack team in conference, our opening BE tourney game will also have a resume win potential.
I disagree. I think we have to beat a ranked team now . Beating teams who we are supposed to is not good enough
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
That, combined with our overall record.
Right now our best win is @Prov. I know you don't think that's a good win Baldi, but according to every single poll not done by Humans...it is a good win.
That's 1
Let's make a deal Baldi, if we beat Duke on Sunday, you shut the #$%^ up for the rest of the year?
Sure. I will leave the board altogether
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
That, combined with our overall record.
Right now our best win is @Prov. I know you don't think that's a good win Baldi, but according to every single poll not done by Humans...it is a good win.
That's 1
Let's make a deal Baldi, if we beat Duke on Sunday, you shut the #$%^ up for the rest of the year?
Sure. I will leave the board altogether
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
I'm simply disproving your original contention: "Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't." Expected SOS is 19. It will help us on Selection Sunday.
We have 9 games remaining against RPI top 50 teams. Win 3 or 4 of them, combined with @Prov, @Cuse and our SOS, and the "resume wins" is also a non issue. If we are a middle of the pack team in conference, our opening BE tourney game will also have a resume win potential.
I disagree. I think we have to beat a ranked team now . Beating teams who we are supposed to is not good enough
I do not share that opinion, though beating Duke or Nova would definitely help our cause on the bubble. In your opinion, who are the teams we are "supposed to beat"
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
I'm simply disproving your original contention: "Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't." Expected SOS is 19. It will help us on Selection Sunday.
We have 9 games remaining against RPI top 50 teams. Win 3 or 4 of them, combined with @Prov, @Cuse and our SOS, and the "resume wins" is also a non issue. If we are a middle of the pack team in conference, our opening BE tourney game will also have a resume win potential.
I disagree. I think we have to beat a ranked team now . Beating teams who we are supposed to is not good enough
I do not share that opinion, though beating Duke or Nova would definitely help our cause on the bubble. In your opinion, who are the teams we are "supposed to beat"
I think 8 more wins. Who will be ranked when we play them is the question? Only Villanova?
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And I know it's going to come back to Iona and they would beat Iona by 20 at least.
No. You guys are always the ones to bring it up.
Who has St johns played? And don't tell me Syracuse
I think the SU win is waded. Sure they are not as deep as they were when they had McCullough, but that program had an impressive record against non-conference opponents in the Dome. Winning there, when no one else could for several years is impressive. They aren't a great team, but they a tourney team right now. Providence and St.Mary's are dancing too if the season ended today. We need all three of these teams to finish strong, and we need to continue to improve so we can beat a Georgtown or a Nova on the road.
That said, I think a resume of SU, Minnesota, LBS, Tulane and St.Mary's is fine. It's not impressive, but it's got a little juice to it. I think we need to go 10-8 to be in the dance, or 9-9 w a run in the BE tourney.
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The Big east schedule is tough for St Johns who is 2-4 but not for DePaul who is 5-2?
choose not to reply to #3, #4 and #5 in the nation?
I'm curious Baldi - are those nobody no-name programs???
Fordham, Tulane, FDU,NJIT, LIU, Franklin pierce. Franklin a Pierce?
Baldi - Is your point that SL is scheduling more patsies than anyone else? Because scheduling lower level teams is a fact in college basketball.
All of the mathematical polls seem to say we have a very good SOS.
As of now, and I know it's early, but what would the committee consider a "good win" on our schedule
Different "issue" than SOS. Two top 5 OOC games and 1 road game against a perennial top 25 program. Cuse, St. Marys, Minnesota, and LBSU are also RPI top 100 projected (per RPI forecast).
Per RPI Forecast, our expected SOS is 19. This will actually help us on Selection Sunday. Lots to complain about but SOS is not one of them.
So we are in because we beat 5 teams that probably won't be in?
I'm simply disproving your original contention: "Do you feel confident in St Johns Ooc schedule getting I to the tourny? I don't." Expected SOS is 19. It will help us on Selection Sunday.
We have 9 games remaining against RPI top 50 teams. Win 3 or 4 of them, combined with @Prov, @Cuse and our SOS, and the "resume wins" is also a non issue. If we are a middle of the pack team in conference, our opening BE tourney game will also have a resume win potential.
I disagree. I think we have to beat a ranked team now . Beating teams who we are supposed to is not good enough
I do not share that opinion, though beating Duke or Nova would definitely help our cause on the bubble. In your opinion, who are the teams we are "supposed to beat"
I think 8 more wins. Who will be ranked when we play them is the question? Only Villanova?
Agree with 8 more wins, but none need to be ranked in to dance that scenario. Who are the teams we are "supposed to beat"
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DePaul is in 1st place. How are they the worst team in the conference?
And the best team in the conference lost to Lehigh and LMU?
Nice try, Baldi. I believe even you know that Depaul will not be in 1st place very soon, nor are they the best team in the conference. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't win again until Feb 24th (if at all). Find me a game other than hosting Creighton that they'll be favored in. I'd set the over/under on wins for the rest of the season by Depaul at 2.5.
I think 8 more wins. Who will be ranked when we play them is the question? Only Villanova?
8 might be enough, but I would be more comfortable with 9 (including BET). 9 of our 13 remaining games will be against "ranked" opponents. They might not be ranked in the AP poll, but they're highly rated in the polls that matter. SMU was ranked in the AP poll but not in the polls that mattered last year. How'd that turn out?
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DePaul is in 1st place. How are they the worst team in the conference?
And the best team in the conference lost to Lehigh and LMU?
Nice try, Baldi. I believe even you know that Depaul will not be in 1st place very soon, nor are they the best team in the conference. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't win again until Feb 24th (if at all). Find me a game other than hosting Creighton that they'll be favored in. I'd set the over/under on wins for the rest of the season by Depaul at 2.5.
I think 8 more wins. Who will be ranked when we play them is the question? Only Villanova?
8 might be enough, but I would be more comfortable with 9 (including BET). 9 of our 13 remaining games will be against "ranked" opponents. They might not be ranked in the AP poll, but they're highly rated in the polls that matter. SMU was ranked in the AP poll but not in the polls that mattered last year. How'd that turn out?
Depaul's first half record is much less important than their conference record. The committee cares more about what kind of team you are in March, than November. I never thought they'd keep it up, then they beat us and Seton Hall on the road. That's impressive work. Good for them.
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DePaul up 13 early at Xavier
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DePaul up 13 early at Xavier
They are much improved.
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Hitting a ton of 3's again. I think you need to play them man the whole game, and keep some of their length off the offensive glass. And don't bail Garrett out with cheap fouls at the end of the shot clock.
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Hitting a ton of 3's again. I think you need to play them man the whole game, and keep some of their length off the offensive glass. And don't bail Garrett out with cheap fouls at the end of the shot clock.
Up 8, garret only 4 points
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He hasnt had to do a lot of shooting 60% from three hitting like 12. One of their guards just turned down a wide open break away with the clock running down to pull it out and shoot a three. Nuts. They look like one of those Weasthead LMU teams today
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He hasnt had to do a lot of shooting 60% from three hitting like 12. One of their guards just turned down a wide open break away with the clock running down to pull it out and shoot a three. Nuts. They look like one of those Weasthead LMU teams today
Lol ya saw that.
Stupid tech on Xavier going into half
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Weakest tech I've ever seen on xavier there. I think there might have been a little contact as time ran out in the half. Thought it was a tech on Mack for some reason or that kid wood for throwing himself across the floor.
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OOC sets us up to get in going 10-8 in BE, I think. If so it means the OOC schedule was good enough. The real question would be can this undersized, undermanned team get to 10-8. Teams that played weaker OOC then us will be getting in. What often gets overlooked is the committee must field a team of 68, and some ordinary at large teams get in every year.
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Game time. Overrated Garret a non
Factor
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10 - 8 would take a miracle from 2 - 4. We better hope 9 - 9 and a BE tourn. win is enough. :-\
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10 - 8 would take a miracle from 2 - 4. We better hope 9 - 9 and a BE tourn. win is enough. :-\
finished 10-8 last year after starting 0-5. Miracles do happen ;)
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Syracuse with another loss at home.
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ON THE BUBBLE
Last Four Byes
Oklahoma State
Seton Hall
Colorado State
Xavier
Last Four In
NC State
Old Dominion
George Washington
Kansas State
First Four Out
St. John's
Washington
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Next Four Out
Tennessee
Davidson
Syracuse
Saint Mary's
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Need Syracuse to lose thus game
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We need Cuse and St Marys to be top 50 wins
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We need Cuse and St Marys to be top 50 wins
That's another way to look at it. I think we all are fighting for the same spot off that bubble
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Baldi, if they win tonight they are 6-2 on conference. I understand you points about them. Syracuse at 6-2 is firmly in the tournament. They earned their rep. Hate it. I am and have been rooting for them.
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Are we better off with Syracuse doing well now in the ACC?
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Are we better off with Syracuse doing well now in the ACC?
Depends how you look at it. Like you said, they're also on the bubble so we're fighting with them, but the better they do, the better our win looks. Double edged sword.
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Eff them. Glad they're about to lose.
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Eff them. Glad they're about to lose.
Me too. Not a fan of Carolina either, but they aren't on our bubble
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Eff them. Glad they're about to lose.
Me too. Not a fan of Carolina either, but they aren't on our bubble
This thread becomes completely moot if the guys have another let down in Omaha on Wednesday
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Lunardi quote
For the record, I've always liked St. John's and spent a lot of friendly time with Steve Lavin during his ESPN days. But it was clear to me Sunday as Duke sprinted past the Red Storm that his team is a tease. And that Selection Sunday isn't going to end well for the Johnnies.
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Lunardi quote
For the record, I've always liked St. John's and spent a lot of friendly time with Steve Lavin during his ESPN days. But it was clear to me Sunday as Duke sprinted past the Red Storm that his team is a tease. And that Selection Sunday isn't going to end well for the Johnnies.
Meh. I don't think we will make the tournament either, but Lunardi isn't a prognosticator of future results, he just makes a bracket based on what has occurred thus far. Wouldn't put much stock in his results predictions
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Coach can't let season slip away playing a hurt Harrison 35. Losing a hard fought game is one thing, but not busting hump with season on line would leave a bad taste.
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"43. St. John's Red Storm
The Johnnies have talent and athleticism, which was on display against Duke. But when the game was on the line, St. John's backed up. The Red Storm have lost five of seven going into Creighton, and have not done a good enough job on the glass. Without rebounding at a higher level, St. John's will remain a bubble team until Selection Sunday. -- Jay Bilas"
http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12237095/jay-bilas-john-gasaway-rank-top-68-teams-college-hoops-college-basketball
Guess Jay doesnt subscribe to the Steve Lavin Theory of Rebounding Is Overrated...neither does Pat Summitt for what it's worth (offense sells tickets, defense wins games, rebounding wins championships).
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I guess we can do away with this thread now
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Time for this thread to be shut down
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I guess we can do away with this thread now
Start a NIT bracketology thread
Too soon?
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I guess we can do away with this thread now
Start a NIT bracketology thread
Too soon?
CBI thread. Maybe we'll play Wright St at home. Cant wait
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Doesn't believe in REBOUNDING from losses either I guess.
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According to Lunardi's bracket math, after this loss we are still in the first four out.
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http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-rpi
Rpi has dropped to 59. Right behind them at 60, is everyone's favorite team from the MAAC
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I will never understand how different sites can have different, fully updated, RPI rankings. I was under the impression it was purely statistical...doesn't make sense that two can be different.
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http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html
61
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi
49
I don't get it...
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Don't we have 13 wins??
Or does FDU not count due to being d2?
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Correct, RPI only accounts for D1 games
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Fdu is div 1. Although I believe another opponent is div 2.
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Fdu is div 1. Although I believe another opponent is div 2.
Franklin Pierce
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In the 12 seed play in game against NC State. Syracuse, nowhere to be found, just like Balsi predicted earlier in the thread
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology/_/iteration/217
ON THE BUBBLE
Last Four Byes
Iowa
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Colorado State
Last Four In
Ole Miss
NC State
St. John's
Old Dominion
First Four Out
Tennessee
George Washington
Kansas State
Davidson
Next Four Out
Florida
Purdue
Temple
Michigan
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Thought this was interesting.
Team A: 1-5 vs. top 50 (home vs #34 RPI). 3-0 vs 50-100 rpi, Top 100 road win @ #51 Iowa. 2 sub 100 losses (including home to Texas Southern). 15-7 overall RPI of 36 SOS of 30
Team B: 2-5 vs. top 50 (home/away vs #23 RPI), 4-0 vs 50-100 rpi, Top 100 road wins @ #23 and #61 2 sub 100 road losses. 13-7 overall RPI of 43 SOS of 27
Team C: 3-6 vs. top 50 (@ #10 and home/away vs #33 RPI), 1-2 vs 50-100 rpi, Top 100 road wins @ #10, #33, and #90, no sub 100 losses. 14-8 overall RPI of 51 SOS of 10
Team A (Michigan St.) gets an 8 seed, while Team B (SJU) is a play in 12, and Team C (Iowa) gets the third 10 seed? SJU and Iowa have better wins and less harmful losses. Overall records are very similar. Doesn't really add up to me...
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http://bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html
Ranks bracketologists based on accuracy. If you click the link to the right of each person, it brings you to their current bracketology.
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http://bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html
Ranks bracketologists based on accuracy. If you click the link to the right of each person, it brings you to their current bracketology.
One of the best sites around for bracketology
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Seems like a soft bubble to me honestly.
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Latest RPI from NCAA: Seton Hall 36, St. John's 45, Iona 55.
Braziller tweet
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Cuse without McCullough is a much different team.
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Cuse without McCullough is a much different team.
Cuse playing against legit teams is a different team as well
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If you look at their schedule they have lost at various times throughout the season - it isn't tied to conference play.
Lost to Cal, us, Michigan and Nova pre-conference (and could have easily won three of those games, including ours). Then lost to Clemson, Miami and North Carolina in-conference. So not much of a difference. They lack depth and McCullough is a stud so I think that hurt them big time.
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If you look at their schedule they have lost at various times throughout the season - it isn't tied to conference play.
Lost to Cal, us, Michigan and Nova pre-conference (and could have easily won three of those games, including ours). Then lost to Clemson, Miami and North Carolina in-conference. So not much of a difference. They lack depth and McCullough is a stud so I think that hurt them big time.
Who have they beat is the question
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Iowa and the lower half of the ACC.
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None of this stuff matters... We all know what needs to happen to get in... Win more basketball games.. Ranking, RPI, KenPom, etc.... ugh... Who cares where we are now, what matters is where you are before the conference tourney starts.
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More insult to injury Cuse did a self impose playoff band on themselves for their academic scandal. The team's victory at the Carrier Dome seems even less impressive.
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More insult to injury Cuse did a self impose playoff band on themselves for their academic scandal. The team's victory at the Carrier Dome seems even less impressive.
Oh no...I will take a W over Ex-Cuse any day of the week!
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First team out of the tourney, pretty ideal when you consider the funeral procession that this site has been for the past month. One game at a time, have to take care of business Wednesday night, leading into a huge opportunity to get us off the bubble for the foreseeable future if we win @X Saturday afternoon.
Joe Lunardi @ESPNLunardi · 5m 5 minutes ago
FIRST OUT: St. John's, UCLA, G.W., Purdue. NEXT OUT: Davidson, Clemson, NC State, Florida.
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Our RPI on ESPN is 41 but on the NCAA website we are 51. Obviously the NCAA will be the one used to judge us but why such a large difference?
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I know this has definitely been asked and probably answered already but the win over Division 2 Franklin and Pierce doesn't count on their NCAA resume right? Their record is 16-8 but is only 15-8 in the eyes of the selection committee right? Please let me know. Thanks.
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They're 16-8.
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I know this has definitely been asked and probably answered already but the win over Division 2 Franklin and Pierce doesn't count on their NCAA resume right? Their record is 16-8 but is only 15-8 in the eyes of the selection committee right? Please let me know. Thanks.
Not sure. Might be one of those "it only affects you if you lose" kinda things. I know D2 games don't count towards your RPI ranking, but do count towards your BPI (probably the main reason our BPI has been worse than our RPI all season, as that has been our worst rated game of the season). I don't know that the overall record is that big of a deal to the committee either way. So basically, I have no idea, and just felt like hearing myself talk.
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The AD gets bashed on here plenty . Most of us don't know what he does or doesn't do. Have to think that it's his fault for not demanding that we play a division 1 team. Why play a game if a loss would hurt and a win wouldn't count?
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When a D2 plays a D1 as part of a regularly scheduled game, it gets designated as an exhibition so there is no doubt from the get go. FP game was part of a tournament and not designated as such. Hence I think it counts for whatever that's worth. When the selection committee gets in the room they just do whatever they want anyway.
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The AD gets bashed on here plenty . Most of us don't know what he does or doesn't do. Have to think that it's his fault for not demanding that we play a division 1 team. Why play a game if a loss would hurt and a win wouldn't count?
The NIT screwed up by not getting enough teams in their tournament.
Nothing to do with Monasch.
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Our RPI on ESPN is 41 but on the NCAA website we are 51. Obviously the NCAA will be the one used to judge us but why such a large difference?
It appears ESPN is counting our preseason NIT games as neutral court games but NCAA is counting them as home games.
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
That's not true, but would definitely help. Need to win 4 of the last 7, then win a game in the BET. One scenario that would work, for example, is beating Xavier twice, @MU, v. SH. In my view, 10-8 is bordering on unrealistic.
Separately, Xavier is the worst matchup for us IMO. I'd take a split with X and Gtown and taking care of business against SH and MU.
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
That's not true, but would definitely help. Need to win 4 of the last 7, then win a game in the BET. One scenario that would work, for example, is beating Xavier twice, @MU, v. SH. In my view, 10-8 is bordering on unrealistic.
Separately, Xavier is the worst matchup for us IMO. I'd take a split with X and Gtown and taking care of business against SH and MU.
I look at at like this, we are on the bubble now. How does beating Xavier, Seton Hall and Marquette help us?
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
That's not true, but would definitely help. Need to win 4 of the last 7, then win a game in the BET. One scenario that would work, for example, is beating Xavier twice, @MU, v. SH. In my view, 10-8 is bordering on unrealistic.
Separately, Xavier is the worst matchup for us IMO. I'd take a split with X and Gtown and taking care of business against SH and MU.
I look at at like this, we are on the bubble now. How does beating Xavier, Seton Hall and Marquette help us?
The way I look at it, most places have us in the tourney now, win the games you should and that shouldn't change barring some insane Cinderella stories come conference tourney time. It's not ideal, but in most cases the probability will work.
Win some we aren't supposed to like @GT or @Nova and its icing on the cake.
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
That's not true, but would definitely help. Need to win 4 of the last 7, then win a game in the BET. One scenario that would work, for example, is beating Xavier twice, @MU, v. SH. In my view, 10-8 is bordering on unrealistic.
Separately, Xavier is the worst matchup for us IMO. I'd take a split with X and Gtown and taking care of business against SH and MU.
I look at at like this, we are on the bubble now. How does beating Xavier, Seton Hall and Marquette help us?
The way I look at it, most places have us in the tourney now, win the games you should and that shouldn't change barring some insane Cinderella stories come conference tourney time. It's not ideal, but in most cases the probability will work.
Win some we aren't supposed to like @GT or @Nova and its icing on the cake.
I don't think we will win the gems we are supposed to.
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
That's not true, but would definitely help. Need to win 4 of the last 7, then win a game in the BET. One scenario that would work, for example, is beating Xavier twice, @MU, v. SH. In my view, 10-8 is bordering on unrealistic.
Separately, Xavier is the worst matchup for us IMO. I'd take a split with X and Gtown and taking care of business against SH and MU.
I look at at like this, we are on the bubble now. How does beating Xavier, Seton Hall and Marquette help us?
I hear you. But finishing with 21 wins in that scenario (per RPI Wizard on rpiforecast.com) would give us a top 40 RPI and a top 20 SOS. Objectively, that's bid worthy in most years.
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
That's not true, but would definitely help. Need to win 4 of the last 7, then win a game in the BET. One scenario that would work, for example, is beating Xavier twice, @MU, v. SH. In my view, 10-8 is bordering on unrealistic.
Separately, Xavier is the worst matchup for us IMO. I'd take a split with X and Gtown and taking care of business against SH and MU.
I look at at like this, we are on the bubble now. How does beating Xavier, Seton Hall and Marquette help us?
win games while other teams are playing their way out. That's the way Feb.works. #for now remains22.
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
That's not true, but would definitely help. Need to win 4 of the last 7, then win a game in the BET. One scenario that would work, for example, is beating Xavier twice, @MU, v. SH. In my view, 10-8 is bordering on unrealistic.
Separately, Xavier is the worst matchup for us IMO. I'd take a split with X and Gtown and taking care of business against SH and MU.
I look at at like this, we are on the bubble now. How does beating Xavier, Seton Hall and Marquette help us?
I hear you. But finishing with 21 wins in that scenario (per RPI Wizard on rpiforecast.com) would give us a top 40 RPI and a top 20 SOS. Objectively, that's bid worthy in most years.
21 might do it
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Need to beat Georgetown and Villanova
That's not true, but would definitely help. Need to win 4 of the last 7, then win a game in the BET. One scenario that would work, for example, is beating Xavier twice, @MU, v. SH. In my view, 10-8 is bordering on unrealistic.
Separately, Xavier is the worst matchup for us IMO. I'd take a split with X and Gtown and taking care of business against SH and MU.
I look at at like this, we are on the bubble now. How does beating Xavier, Seton Hall and Marquette help us?
I hear you. But finishing with 21 wins in that scenario (per RPI Wizard on rpiforecast.com) would give us a top 40 RPI and a top 20 SOS. Objectively, that's bid worthy in most years.
21 might do it
I agree. I looked over all fence/bubble teams, and we have better high quality wins than all but 2... that said, we should have at least one more (Nova, GTown, Xavier) on the way to 20...
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I usually disagree with baldi but I think he's right. At some point we have to have a "signature" win or else selection Sunday is going to be scary even at 10-8 w one be tourney win. Do I think we ultimately make it in in that scenario? Yes. Will I be confident? No.
A win against nova would be a huge highlight on our resume. A win against gtown would give us wins (3 total) against two upper echelon BE teams (gtown and PC).
PC keeps rolling and perhaps we already have our signature wins but I'd feel much better with the committee recognizing big wins against multiple teams rather than just wondering if we are an average team that happens to be providences kryptonite.
If rysheed had only played in that butler game at CA...
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I usually disagree with baldi but I think he's right. At some point we have to have a "signature" win or else selection Sunday is going to be scary even at 10-8 w one be tourney win. Do I think we ultimately make it in in that scenario? Yes. Will I be confident? No.
A win against nova would be a huge highlight on our resume. A win against gtown would give us wins (3 total) against two upper echelon BE teams (gtown and PC).
PC keeps rolling and perhaps we already have our signature wins but I'd feel much better with the committee recognizing big wins against multiple teams rather than just wondering if we are an average team that happens to be providences kryptonite.
If rysheed had only played in that butler game at CA...
seems like there is always alot of "what ifs" when referrering to Jordan
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The magic number is 22 wins. Anyway you slice it, 22 wins means we beat some quality resume builders to get there.
I do agree, we lack a signature win so the Nova game will be huge. But if you look at the teams around where Lunardi has St.Johns, almost all of them lack what we are calling a "signature win".
If we can beat Xavier again and Georgetown once that will give us 5 top 50 wins. Then we need to beat Seton Hall and Marquette on the road, plus one win in the Big East Tournament to get to 22.
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USA Today bracketology updated as of this morning.
10 seed playing vs Indiana
http://q.usatoday.com/2015/02/15/ncaa-tournament-bracketology-march-madness-bubble/
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Iowa gettin ready to drop one to northwestern
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I usually disagree with baldi but I think he's right. At some point we have to have a "signature" win or else selection Sunday is going to be scary even at 10-8 w one be tourney win. Do I think we ultimately make it in in that scenario? Yes. Will I be confident? No.
A win against nova would be a huge highlight on our resume. A win against gtown would give us wins (3 total) against two upper echelon BE teams (gtown and PC).
PC keeps rolling and perhaps we already have our signature wins but I'd feel much better with the committee recognizing big wins against multiple teams rather than just wondering if we are an average team that happens to be providences kryptonite.
If rysheed had only played in that butler game at CA...
Or more than 7 minutes against Creighton. What poor timing for a serious knee injury.
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Will the Big East get more respect this year then last year?The other bubbles teams that play in the other conferences might have the edge because their conference is tougher. Beating ranked Nova would on the road would be huge and Avoid us have a goose egg against ranked teams.
....It looks like this team found their "come to Jesus" moment and understand that they need one more big run to make the tournament.
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Jerry Palm of CBSSports really likes us. Has St Johns as a 7 seed vs LSU.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology
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And that was before the Xavier game.
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And that was before the Xavier game.
It was updated this morning. It includes the Xavier win.
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Will the Big East get more respect this year then last year?The other bubbles teams that play in the other conferences might have the edge because their conference is tougher. Beating ranked Nova would on the road would be huge and Avoid us have a goose egg against ranked teams.
....It looks like this team found their "come to Jesus" moment and understand that they need one more big run to make the tournament.
The BE has the #2 RPI. BE will get plenty of respect from the committee. The only conference that's tougher is the B12. So if the conference gave benefit to other conferences being tougher they'd be wrong.
St. John's has 2 marquee top 25 RPI wins over Providence. I think that's more than enough. Just need to take care of getting enough wins. You have 16 wins currently (for the committee the win over the D2 team doesn't count) so I think you need at least 4 more wins total including BET.
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Will the Big East get more respect this year then last year?The other bubbles teams that play in the other conferences might have the edge because their conference is tougher. Beating ranked Nova would on the road would be huge and Avoid us have a goose egg against ranked teams.
....It looks like this team found their "come to Jesus" moment and understand that they need one more big run to make the tournament.
The BE has the #2 RPI. BE will get plenty of respect from the committee. The only conference that's tougher is the B12. So if the conference gave benefit to other conferences being tougher they'd be wrong.
St. John's has 2 marquee top 25 RPI wins over Providence. I think that's more than enough. Just need to take care of getting enough wins. You have 16 wins currently (for the committee the win over the D2 team doesn't count) so I think you need at least 4 more wins total including BET.
Spot on IMO. Could possibly afford a first round loss in BET with three wins as long as it's against a top 3 team. But 4 should leave us comfortably in. Who knows though, lots can change. Iowa, Illinois and Minnesota losing on Sunday helps (although the Minn loss is a double edged sword). Miami could help us out by losing in BC today.
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10 seed in latest ESPN bracket
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Dom's playing his best basketball ever
D'lo's playing his best basketball ever
Phil's playing his best basktball ever
And Jordan, Branch and Obekpa are playing their best basketball ever (albeit not as consistently as the top three)
Yet we're still only on the bubble? What gives?
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Dom's playing his best basketball ever
D'lo's playing his best basketball ever
Phil's playing his best basktball ever
And Jordan, Branch and Obekpa are playing their best basketball ever (albeit not as consistently as the top three)
Yet we're still only on the bubble? What gives?
Lavin can't recruit!
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Official rpi of 41. If we get in the 30s we are pretty much a lock. Beating Gtown on road would be huge. Also need providence to finish well to keep those as quality wins.
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Dom and Phil are playing their best basketball ever. D-lo when healthy is, but he was not healthy again the second half of the Xavier game. Hopefully he is better by tomorrow.
When Jordan plays even his B or B+ game we are tough to beat because of the above.
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Saturday's W was the season's most critical game to date. There couldn't of been more at stake for our resume and momentum, and the team answered the bell. A top50 weekend road win, just tremendous.
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Probably need to win 4 more regular season conference games to lock it up. Win 1 of 2 against G-Town, beat Seton Hall and Marquette. This leaves win 1 of 2 between Xavier and Villanova.
Still not an easy task.
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Saturday's W was the season's most critical game to date. There couldn't of been more at stake for our resume and momentum, and the team answered the bell. A top50 weekend road win, just tremendous.
Actually most was looking for a split so it wasn't critical, since we still had this game, if we lost that one. If we lost that one then then one would have been critical.
It was a huge win though, since now we could avoid calling this game critical.
They got their win, so should be no pressure on them tomorrow and just go out there and have fun. Sometimes you play better without pressure on you to win.
Looking forward to this game.
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Probably need to win 4 more regular season conference games to lock it up. Win 1 of 2 against G-Town, beat Seton Hall and Marquette. This leaves win 1 of 2 between Xavier and Villanova.
Still not an easy task.
Xavier must've been some win,. Jumping from bubble to 10 seed?
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1st teams in are usually 11 seeds, 10 seed not a huge jump
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Probably need to win 4 more regular season conference games to lock it up. Win 1 of 2 against G-Town, beat Seton Hall and Marquette. This leaves win 1 of 2 between Xavier and Villanova.
Still not an easy task.
Xavier must've been some win,. Jumping from bubble to 10 seed?
I think it was a very big win. Xavier is one of those programs that's always good, so you can consider a win against them on their court to be meaningful no matter the circumstance. That said, Xavier is now 14-2 at home. That's pretty impressive.
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Quality wins include @Providence [RPI 23], Providence[23], @Xavier[40], St Mary's [55]. Other wins include @Syracuse [70] and Minnesota [76]. The schedule provides opportunities for additional quality wins.
With our SOS currently 31, we will be playing...
@Georgetown [RPI 21]
Seton Hall [75]
Xavier [40]
Georgetown [21]
@Marquette
@Villanova [4]
It's there for the taking.
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Nice wins by Xavier and Syracuse. Every little bit helps.
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
Lunardi has us in Play In game
Alot of basketball left and all we have to do is keep winning but i find it hard that teams like Texas A&M, Georgia UCLA and Iowa have better seeds....but as i said before keep winning and all this means nothing.
Big One Saturday!
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Purdue just jumped into the last 4 in by beating Indiana on the road
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
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Probably need to win 4 more regular season conference games to lock it up. Win 1 of 2 against G-Town, beat Seton Hall and Marquette. This leaves win 1 of 2 between Xavier and Villanova.
Still not an easy task.
For what an eight seed? You guys aren't really that good at math are you?
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
Gonzaga game is huge. They just beat a solid Portland team. Could be their last chance for a marquee win unless they get a good match up in the conference tournament. Looking like they could match up with BYU second round if they both hold positions and win round 1 games.
We could really use them squarely inside the top 50. It'd be nice to get Minnesota and LBSU inside the top 100 instead of 102 and 103 as well.
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
Gonzaga game is huge. They just beat a solid Portland team. Could be their last chance for a marquee win unless they get a good match up in the conference tournament. Looking like they could match up with BYU second round if they both hold positions and win round 1 games.
We could really use them squarely inside the top 50. It'd be nice to get Minnesota and LBSU inside the top 100 instead of 102 and 103 yas well.
Minnesota is imploding, 5-10 in conference.
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
Gonzaga game is huge. They just beat a solid Portland team. Could be their last chance for a marquee win unless they get a good match up in the conference tournament. Looking like they could match up with BYU second round if they both hold positions and win round 1 games.
We could really use them squarely inside the top 50. It'd be nice to get Minnesota and LBSU inside the top 100 instead of 102 and 103 yas well.
Minnesota is imploding, 5-10 in conference.
Implosion happened earlier in the year. They have actually recovered pretty decently until dropping to Northwestern earlier in the week. It's probably way too late to have them win enough to be a quality win, but if they could win a few more and get inside the top 100, it would help us. The #s are so arbitrary, but the committee goes through so many teams it has to rely on those cutoffs. Xavier is right outside of the top 25, Cuse or the top 50, and Minn and LBSU just outside the top 100.
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
Gonzaga game is huge. They just beat a solid Portland team. Could be their last chance for a marquee win unless they get a good match up in the conference tournament. Looking like they could match up with BYU second round if they both hold positions and win round 1 games.
We could really use them squarely inside the top 50. It'd be nice to get Minnesota and LBSU inside the top 100 instead of 102 and 103 yas well.
Minnesota is imploding, 5-10 in conference.
Implosion happened earlier in the year. They have actually recovered pretty decently until dropping to Northwestern earlier in the week. It's probably way too late to have them win enough to be a quality win, but if they could win a few more and get inside the top 100, it would help us. The #s are so arbitrary, but the committee goes through so many teams it has to rely on those cutoffs. Xavier is right outside of the top 25, Cuse or the top 50, and Minn and LBSU just outside the top 100.
I'm pretty sure Minnesota stunk all year
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
Gonzaga game is huge. They just beat a solid Portland team. Could be their last chance for a marquee win unless they get a good match up in the conference tournament. Looking like they could match up with BYU second round if they both hold positions and win round 1 games.
We could really use them squarely inside the top 50. It'd be nice to get Minnesota and LBSU inside the top 100 instead of 102 and 103 yas well.
Minnesota is imploding, 5-10 in conference.
Implosion happened earlier in the year. They have actually recovered pretty decently until dropping to Northwestern earlier in the week. It's probably way too late to have them win enough to be a quality win, but if they could win a few more and get inside the top 100, it would help us. The #s are so arbitrary, but the committee goes through so many teams it has to rely on those cutoffs. Xavier is right outside of the top 25, Cuse or the top 50, and Minn and LBSU just outside the top 100.
I'm pretty sure Minnesota stunk all year
Before today's game Minnesota was 99 in the RPI.
Before their current 3 game losing streak they had a 3 game winning streak and beat Nebraska / Purdue / @ Iowa. Those 3 wins helped their RPI a great deal.
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
Gonzaga game is huge. They just beat a solid Portland team. Could be their last chance for a marquee win unless they get a good match up in the conference tournament. Looking like they could match up with BYU second round if they both hold positions and win round 1 games.
We could really use them squarely inside the top 50. It'd be nice to get Minnesota and LBSU inside the top 100 instead of 102 and 103 yas well.
Minnesota is imploding, 5-10 in conference.
Implosion happened earlier in the year. They have actually recovered pretty decently until dropping to Northwestern earlier in the week. It's probably way too late to have them win enough to be a quality win, but if they could win a few more and get inside the top 100, it would help us. The #s are so arbitrary, but the committee goes through so many teams it has to rely on those cutoffs. Xavier is right outside of the top 25, Cuse or the top 50, and Minn and LBSU just outside the top 100.
I'm pretty sure Minnesota stunk all year
Before today's game Minnesota was 99 in the RPI.
Before their current 3 game losing streak they had a 3 game winning streak and beat Nebraska / Purdue / @ Iowa. Those 3 wins helped their RPI a great deal.
I don't think any of those teams make the tourny
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
Gonzaga game is huge. They just beat a solid Portland team. Could be their last chance for a marquee win unless they get a good match up in the conference tournament. Looking like they could match up with BYU second round if they both hold positions and win round 1 games.
We could really use them squarely inside the top 50. It'd be nice to get Minnesota and LBSU inside the top 100 instead of 102 and 103 yas well.
Minnesota is imploding, 5-10 in conference.
Implosion happened earlier in the year. They have actually recovered pretty decently until dropping to Northwestern earlier in the week. It's probably way too late to have them win enough to be a quality win, but if they could win a few more and get inside the top 100, it would help us. The #s are so arbitrary, but the committee goes through so many teams it has to rely on those cutoffs. Xavier is right outside of the top 25, Cuse or the top 50, and Minn and LBSU just outside the top 100.
I'm pretty sure Minnesota stunk all year
Before today's game Minnesota was 99 in the RPI.
Before their current 3 game losing streak they had a 3 game winning streak and beat Nebraska / Purdue / @ Iowa. Those 3 wins helped their RPI a great deal.
I don't think any of those teams make the tourny
I dont think theres anyway both purdue and Iowa dont get in. They would both have to really play bad. If they both stay on the bubble then at least one will make it, IMO.
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Our St. Mary's win is now a top 50 win at they moved up to 49 in the RPI. Hopefully they have a good showing against Gonzaga tonight!!
Gonzaga game is huge. They just beat a solid Portland team. Could be their last chance for a marquee win unless they get a good match up in the conference tournament. Looking like they could match up with BYU second round if they both hold positions and win round 1 games.
We could really use them squarely inside the top 50. It'd be nice to get Minnesota and LBSU inside the top 100 instead of 102 and 103 yas well.
Minnesota is imploding, 5-10 in conference.
Implosion happened earlier in the year. They have actually recovered pretty decently until dropping to Northwestern earlier in the week. It's probably way too late to have them win enough to be a quality win, but if they could win a few more and get inside the top 100, it would help us. The #s are so arbitrary, but the committee goes through so many teams it has to rely on those cutoffs. Xavier is right outside of the top 25, Cuse or the top 50, and Minn and LBSU just outside the top 100.
I'm pretty sure Minnesota stunk all year
Before today's game Minnesota was 99 in the RPI.
Before their current 3 game losing streak they had a 3 game winning streak and beat Nebraska / Purdue / @ Iowa. Those 3 wins helped their RPI a great deal.
I don't think any of those teams make the tourny
I dont think theres anyway both purdue and Iowa dont get in. They would both have to really play bad. If they both stay on the bubble then at least one will make it, IMO.
I could see Purdue not getting in. Their last three are @ Ohio St / @ Mich St / Illinois.
My point above was that Minnesota went on a little streak to improve their RPI, hence improving our resume a small bit.
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St Mary's down to 53 in the RPI after last nights loss to Zags.
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St Mary's down to 53 in the RPI after last nights loss to Zags.
They're in trouble. Not much top competition OOC except us, and losses to BYU, Boise and Pepperdine will hurt them with their fluff schedule. They need to win their tourney.
Doesn't seem like 5 years ago that we saw the photos of the guys making the road trip and touring in SF.
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Lunardi just said on Sportscenter, we win the next 2 AT HOME, we are in
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Lunardi just said on Sportscenter, we win the next 2 AT HOME, we are in
I think this team is going to have a tough time beating Georgetown. They don't match up well against the Hoyas.
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Lunardi just said on Sportscenter, we win the next 2 AT HOME, we are in
I think this team is going to have a tough time beating Georgetown. They don't match up well against the Hoyas.
I don't think it's as horrible a matchup as people think. When you play a really bad game against a team that's the first thing everyone says. We played absolutely horrible in that game, much like last year and much like last year I think we can beat them at home. Dlo and Rysheed had atrocious games, that's why we lost.
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Lunardi just said on Sportscenter, we win the next 2 AT HOME, we are in
I think this team is going to have a tough time beating Georgetown. They don't match up well against the Hoyas.
I don't think it's as horrible a matchup as people think. When you play a really bad game against a team that's the first thing everyone says. We played absolutely horrible in that game, much like last year and much like last year I think we can beat them at home. Dlo and Rysheed had atrocious games, that's why we lost.
I agree, Wods. I don't think it is such a terrible matchup although, with the development of the freshmen, they have a lot of options. We played out third game in one week, while they had not played for a week and were rested. That, combined with the fact that they were at home, made it a herculean task. While they are a tough team, we should play much better this time. Hopefully, we can pull out a victory on Senior Day at MSG.
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Lunardi just said on Sportscenter, we win the next 2 AT HOME, we are in
I think this team is going to have a tough time beating Georgetown. They don't match up well against the Hoyas.
I don't think it's as horrible a matchup as people think. When you play a really bad game against a team that's the first thing everyone says. We played absolutely horrible in that game, much like last year and much like last year I think we can beat them at home. Dlo and Rysheed had atrocious games, that's why we lost.
I agree, Wods. I don't think it is such a terrible matchup although, with the development of the freshmen, they have a lot of options. We played out third game in one week, while they had not played for a week and were rested. That, combined with the fact that they were at home, made it a herculean task. While they are a tough team, we should play much better this time. Hopefully, we can pull out a victory on Senior Day at MSG.
I hope it was more the home/road issue, because it's the same situation for the second matchup.
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http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/st-johns-red-storm/bracketology
As of now, 48.4% chance of an at large.
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Lunardi just said on Sportscenter, we win the next 2 AT HOME, we are in
I think this team is going to have a tough time beating Georgetown. They don't match up well against the Hoyas.
I don't think it's as horrible a matchup as people think. When you play a really bad game against a team that's the first thing everyone says. We played absolutely horrible in that game, much like last year and much like last year I think we can beat them at home. Dlo and Rysheed had atrocious games, that's why we lost.
I agree, Wods. I don't think it is such a terrible matchup although, with the development of the freshmen, they have a lot of options. We played out third game in one week, while they had not played for a week and were rested. That, combined with the fact that they were at home, made it a herculean task. While they are a tough team, we should play much better this time. Hopefully, we can pull out a victory on Senior Day at MSG.
I hope it was more the home/road issue, because it's the same situation for the second matchup.
They have a week off again but this time we have a Monday to Saturday turn around. The last time, it was Saturdat to Wednesday. Further, the team went fron Cinci straight to DC instead of coming home due to weather concerns.
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http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/st-johns-red-storm/bracketology
As of now, 48.4% chance of an at large.
They are projecting results for the rest of the season. According to www.bracketmatrix.com we are currently in 95 of 96 brackets with an average seed of 10. The one bracket we are not in is from 2/15. Jerry Palm doesn't even have us on the bubble.
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http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/team/st-johns-red-storm/bracketology
As of now, 48.4% chance of an at large.
They are projecting results for the rest of the season. According to www.bracketmatrix.com we are currently in 95 of 96 brackets with an average seed of 10. The one bracket we are not in is from 2/15. Jerry Palm doesn't even have us on the bubble.
I almost posted that exact thing in response to the post about where Lunardi had us. Would also add that Lunardi is the 44th most accurate baracketologist out of the 76 who have put out a bracketology over the last 3+ year. In other words...he's not very good, relatively speaking.
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Oregon is up 5 on Utah at half right now. A win by Oregon against Utah would increase the pressure on St Johns to win their next two games.
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Not that this means much. But GT barely beat DePaul last night in DC. I think a key to making and hopefully advancing in the tourney is if we are healthy.
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New Brackets out by Lunardi. SJU is a 10 seed playing Mr. Polee and SDST.
Last 2 times Lundardi had SJU as a 10 seed, our record was 500 in conference. .500 in conference, seems to be the bench mark according to Lunardi for us to be securely in.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
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Apparently doesn't apply to Big 12 or Big Ten teams though. Iowa a 10 seed despite 6-8 B1G record, Texas a 9 despite 6-8 Big XII record and being 1-9 vs the top 50. Ok State an 8 seed at 7-8 in the Big XII. Midwest bias! lol
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6/11 game is where we want to be. We would only be a small under dog vs a 3
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Apparently doesn't apply to Big 12 or Big Ten teams though. Iowa a 10 seed despite 6-8 B1G record, Texas a 9 despite 6-8 Big XII record and being 1-9 vs the top 50. Ok State an 8 seed at 7-8 in the Big XII. Midwest bias! lol
Sorry, meant 500 in Big East
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CBS has St. Johns as an 8 seed.
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I would sign up for a Zaga or Duke rematch in the 2nd round...
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With Temple and Cinci in Lunardi's last four byes, the AAC is running the risk of having only one team make the dance. I think Cinci will still make it, but Temple might be on the outside looking in.
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Prov. now ranked 25 and we did beat them twice.
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I just want to get in. I don't care where we are seeded and who we play. Win the next 3 in a row and I'll start talking about that.
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I would sign up for a Zaga or Duke rematch in the 2nd round...
Do they still have the rule of no regular season rematches in first 2 rounds?
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I would sign up for a Zaga or Duke rematch in the 2nd round...
Do they still have the rule of no regular season rematches in first 2 rounds?
Yes, and teams not in tourney sweet sixteen over 14 or more years get easier matchups in first two/three rounds
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I would sign up for a Zaga or Duke rematch in the 2nd round...
You are that down on Duke and Gonzaga of the 1/2 seeds?
I'd sign up for a UVA, Arizona, or Kansas matchup way before I'd sign up for Duke or Gonzaga...
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Maryland beats Wisconsin. Does this end the debate for the 4th one seed? (assuming Gonzaga wins out)
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Maryland beats Wisconsin. Does this end the debate for the 4th one seed? (assuming Gonzaga wins out)
If Nova wins out, .I think they have a great case to be a 1 over Gonzaga.
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The Seton Hall loss might prevent that the way things are going. I think Nova is a better team, but Zaga's only loss was @Arizona. That being said, we're their second best win, so, it's certainly possible.
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There's a shot we are a 9 seed on Lunardi's Thursday update. 9 seeds Texas and Texas A&M both lost tonight.
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Texas being considered in right now is a joke. 1 top 50 win, at home against WVU. Next best win is neutral court vs Iowa. Best road win is Uconn/TCU depending on what rankings you're going by. They have 17 wins. 12 are against 101+. The only thing they've done is avoided a bad loss.
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Texas being considered in right now is a joke. 1 top 50 win, at home against WVU. Next best win is neutral court vs Iowa. Best road win is Uconn/TCU depending on what rankings you're going by. They have 17 wins. 12 are against 101+. The only thing they've done is avoided a bad loss.
Texas has been playing like crap. I don't care if they're in the best conference, if a team doesn't distinguish itself in its conference through a .500 or better record, it better have some real meat on their signature wins. Otherwise, I believe those 23-24 win teams in lesser conferences get a crack at it.
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On ESPN we are a #9 seed in the West playing #8 OK St. Winner gets Gonzaga.
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On ESPN we are a #9 seed in the West playing #8 OK St. Winner gets Gonzaga.
Good to hear. I think we can go 2-1, and then 1-1 in the BE tourney. That would probably keep us at a 9 seed.
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Will they make us avoid playing Duke and gonzaga in round 2? If so better chance of playing Kentucky .
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Will they make us avoid playing Duke and gonzaga in round 2? If so better chance of playing Kentucky .
We can't play a team we played already in the first 2 rounds.
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Will they make us avoid playing Duke and gonzaga in round 2? If so better chance of playing Kentucky .
We can't play a team we played already in the first 2 rounds.
it has happened before - 2011 i believe there were two games where BE teams played eachother - uconn/cinci and cuse/marquette in the round of 32
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Will they make us avoid playing Duke and gonzaga in round 2? If so better chance of playing Kentucky .
We can't play a team we played already in the first 2 rounds.
it has happened before - 2011 i believe there were two games where BE teams played eachother - uconn/cinci and cuse/marquette in the round of 32
Yes. I believe the committee tries to avoid rematches the first weekend, but it's not a hard and fast rule.
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Not sure if there is something more up to date...
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2013-08-01/committee-changes-bracketing-guidelines-division-i-tournament
"This means that teams from the same conference that played only once during the season can now face each other as early as the third round of the championship. Subsequently, teams from the same league that met twice during the year will not potentially play each other until the regional semifinals. Also, teams from the same league that played each other three times during the course of the season cannot play until the regional championship game.
The previous guidelines did not allow more than two teams from a league to be in the same region unless nine or more teams were selected from one conference. This has only occurred twice in the history of the championship (Big East with 11 teams in 2011 and nine in 2012). Under the new principles, each of the top four teams selected from a conference will be placed in separate regions, only if they are seeded on the first four lines. This replaces the principle that separated the top three teams from a league regardless of the teams’ placement within the bracket."
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I also believe when that says "third round" it's referring to what pretty much everyone considers the second round....because the "first four" play-in games are now considered the first round IIRC.
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I also believe when that says "third round" it's referring to what pretty much everyone considers the second round....because the "first four" play-in games are now considered the first round IIRC.
Yes, that's what they mean. Terminology will be changing next year, to (I believe) Opening Round, First Round, and Second Round.
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On ESPN we are a #9 seed in the West playing #8 OK St. Winner gets Gonzaga.
Good to hear. I think we can go 2-1, and then 1-1 in the BE tourney. That would probably keep us at a 9 seed.
Hopefully we can do a little bit better and movie up. I wouldn't want to face the Zags again in the 2/3 round (depending on how you view the rounds). I know making it to the 2nd round would be a great accomplishment this year, but the Zags always have our number and I would hate to be knocked iut for the 3rd time by them.
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I want to be either a 6 or 11. The top 8 teams are really good. If we play a good game beating a 3 seed wont be an upset.
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I want to be either a 6 or 11. The top 8 teams are really good. If we play a good game beating a 3 seed wont be an upset.
I want to be in the tournament
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I for Iona?
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I want to be either a 6 or 11. The top 8 teams are really good. If we play a good game beating a 3 seed wont be an upset.
I want to be in the tournament
Just win your MAAC tournament.
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I want to be either a 6 or 11. The top 8 teams are really good. If we play a good game beating a 3 seed wont be an upset.
I want to be in the tournament
Just win your MAAC tournament.
Agreed. But I was talking as a SJU fan. We lose out and there are problems
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I want to be either a 6 or 11. The top 8 teams are really good. If we play a good game beating a 3 seed wont be an upset.
I want to be in the tournament
Just win your MAAC tournament.
Why are you provoking him? Baldi hasn't said a word about Iona in this thread and the two of you start trolling him.
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I want to be either a 6 or 11. The top 8 teams are really good. If we play a good game beating a 3 seed wont be an upset.
I want to be in the tournament
Just win your MAAC tournament.
Why are you provoking him? Baldi hasn't said a word about Iona in this thread and the two of you start trolling him.
I find it fun to troll the troll. Tyvm.
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Why is someone provoking Baldi? Wow! Now he is a victim.
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Nice road win for Minnesota. Should solidify top 100 rpi for them which helps us
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According Lunardi SJU is now a 10 seed Vs Michigan State. Keep winning.
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According Lunardi SJU is now a 10 seed Vs Michigan State. Keep winning.
After being a 9 seed yesterday and Xavier is a 7. Makes zero sense, I can guarantee you this is not accurate. We have a better resume and are 2-0 agains them and they are 3
Spots higher, not a chance.
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I want to be either a 6 or 11. The top 8 teams are really good. If we play a good game beating a 3 seed wont be an upset.
I want to be in the tournament
Just win your MAAC tournament.
Why are you provoking him? Baldi hasn't said a word about Iona in this thread and the two of you start trolling him.
I find it fun to troll the troll. Tyvm.
No need. Talk hoops.
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I want to be either a 6 or 11. The top 8 teams are really good. If we play a good game beating a 3 seed wont be an upset.
I want to be in the tournament
Just win your MAAC tournament.
Why are you provoking him? Baldi hasn't said a word about Iona in this thread and the two of you start trolling him.
I find it fun to troll the troll. Tyvm.
No need. Talk hoops.
Sure boss.
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We're still a 10 seed but now we face SDSU as the 7th seed.
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Lets just make the NCAA Tourney, at this point of my life I don't care where we play or what seed we are
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Lets just make the NCAA Tourney, at this point of my life I don't care where we play or what seed we are
Hear Ya Ted!
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Lets just make the NCAA Tourney, at this point of my life I don't care where we play or what seed we are
Hear Ya Ted!
At some point the God's have to be good to us SJU fans.
A sweet 16 in LA would be my wish LOL
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Lets just make the NCAA Tourney, at this point of my life I don't care where we play or what seed we are
Hear Ya Ted!
At some point the God's have to be good to us SJU fans.
A sweet 16 in LA would be my wish LOL
1st and 2nd round in Charlotte is my wish. :)
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Lets just make the NCAA Tourney, at this point of my life I don't care where we play or what seed we are
Hear Ya Ted!
At some point the God's have to be good to us SJU fans.
A sweet 16 in LA would be my wish LOL
I hope your right, but tell that to the Cubs...
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For the record, St. John's is now a 7 seed on bracketmatrix, ahead of MSU and Indiana (both 8 seeds). Looks like I'm not alone! :P
Quick side note, last week I posted a comment on Assembly Call (the #1 ranked bracketology over the last three years) regarding MSU and Tulsa. He had MSU as an 8 at the time. He responded, saying he understood why I could see MSU as a 10, but pointed to the strength of their schedule. Well, without losing a game, this week he dropped them to a 10. (He has Indiana as a 7, but, he might be biased there)
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Lunardi bumped us down to a 9 seed in the East and now we face Dayton. A&M only dropped to a 10 seed. I k ow people mentioned he is not the most accurate in terms of seeding but what this shows is that we really are not that far away from the bubble. Marqutte game seems to becoming bigger and bigger.
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Lets just make the NCAA Tourney, at this point of my life I don't care where we play or what seed we are
Hear Ya Ted!
At some point the God's have to be good to us SJU fans.
A sweet 16 in LA would be my wish LOL
1st and 2nd round in Charlotte is my wish. :)
That's a home game for Duke and a guaranteed loss for us. This would bring us our traditional one and done or two and done performance in the dance.
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Lets just make the NCAA Tourney, at this point of my life I don't care where we play or what seed we are
Hear Ya Ted!
At some point the God's have to be good to us SJU fans.
A sweet 16 in LA would be my wish LOL
1st and 2nd round in Charlotte is my wish. :)
That's a home game for Duke and a guaranteed loss for us. This would bring us our traditional one and done or two and done performance in the dance.
MSG wasn't too far off from being a Duke home game either.
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Lets just make the NCAA Tourney, at this point of my life I don't care where we play or what seed we are
Hear Ya Ted!
At some point the God's have to be good to us SJU fans.
A sweet 16 in LA would be my wish LOL
1st and 2nd round in Charlotte is my wish. :)
That's a home game for Duke and a guaranteed loss for us. This would bring us our traditional one and done or two and done performance in the dance.
Raleigh wasn't a guaranteed loss for Mercer last year.