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Title: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 01, 2016, 03:35:23 PM
Just de-committed from Alabama. I'm ALL IN on him if I'm the coaching staff. He is equal parts of freakish athlete and shooter. Would fit very well with surrounding parts. I do have some hesitancy about his eligibility but worth the risk with pieces that are already committed to the team.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on March 01, 2016, 03:51:29 PM
Just de-committed from Alabama. I'm ALL IN on him if I'm the coaching staff. He is equal parts of freakish athlete and shooter. Would fit very well with surrounding parts. I do have some hesitancy about his eligibility but worth the risk with pieces that are already committed to the team.
Don't recall us ever being mentioned with him. As the #13 ranked recruit would imagine all the bigs will be in on him and the schools that were already recruiting him. Have too believe he would be a very very tough get.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on March 01, 2016, 03:53:12 PM
It appears Baylor is making a move on him.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: LI Redmen on March 02, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
hey guys new poster here...put something up about myself on the New/Old members introduce yourself forum...  I think this kid has some serious talent but has the staff contacted him at all?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: upstate32 on March 02, 2016, 10:50:53 PM
Tweet from Evan Daniels

St. John's dropped by Dallas (Tex.) API to see five-star wing Terrance Ferguson, who decommitted from Alabama yesterday, per a source.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: WillieG on March 02, 2016, 11:18:46 PM
I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's.  I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us.  I wish I was so sure.  And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle.  Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 02, 2016, 11:42:51 PM
I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's.  I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us.  I wish I was so sure.  And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle.  Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.

Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?

Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: QuanMan on March 03, 2016, 12:14:39 AM
This kid has serious hops and ridiculous length. Having him alongside Rich, Bash, Kass and Sima would be imposing as it gets in college basketball. Keep grinding and picking up those frequent flyer miles Slice!
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: goredmen on March 03, 2016, 12:52:16 AM
I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's.  I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us.  I wish I was so sure.  And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle.  Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.

Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?

Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.

We are in it for Rawle. There's no doubt about that
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 03, 2016, 07:41:12 AM
I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's.  I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us.  I wish I was so sure.  And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle.  Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.

Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?

Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.

We are in it for Rawle. There's no doubt about that

Not sure I'd say in it. Just hanging around.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: goredmen on March 03, 2016, 11:26:53 AM
I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's.  I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us.  I wish I was so sure.  And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle.  Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.

Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?

Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.

We are in it for Rawle. There's no doubt about that

Not sure I'd say in it. Just hanging around.

No, we're in it.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on March 03, 2016, 12:00:52 PM
I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's.  I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us.  I wish I was so sure.  And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle.  Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.

Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?

Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.

We are in it for Rawle. There's no doubt about that

Not sure I'd say in it. Just hanging around.
Quite a difference between No shot and saying you are not sure you would say we are in it. Just sayin.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on March 03, 2016, 02:22:49 PM

Per Zach Braziller

Was told St. John's working on getting five-star wing Terrence Ferguson in for a visit. Barry Rohrssen saw him yesterday. #sjubb
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: MCNPA on March 03, 2016, 03:21:11 PM
A bird in the hand...  Press for Ferguson hard!  It would make everybody forget about the Rawle drama quickly...
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Scheppy on March 03, 2016, 06:34:36 PM
 Maybe then can get Harrison to tell how great it was playing in NY
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: LI Redmen on March 03, 2016, 06:47:43 PM
Wow didn't even think about how Harrison was in Texas...Pretty sure D'Lo would do anything for the SJU but stuff like that rarely happens.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: WillieG on March 03, 2016, 09:23:28 PM
I think we have a better shot at getting Rawle then Ferguson.  The thing that bothers me is how quick we were on this kid.  Doesn't sound like they are at all liking their chances with the hometown kid.  Really have to like the way this staff hustles though.  They really work hard.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: MCNPA on March 03, 2016, 09:54:21 PM
I think we have a better shot at getting Rawle then Ferguson.  The thing that bothers me is how quick we were on this kid.  Doesn't sound like they are at all liking their chances with the hometown kid.  Really have to like the way this staff hustles though.  They really work hard.

Did you think we should have taken a week or two off to play it cool?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on March 03, 2016, 09:59:03 PM
I think we have a better shot at getting Rawle then Ferguson.  The thing that bothers me is how quick we were on this kid.  Doesn't sound like they are at all liking their chances with the hometown kid.  Really have to like the way this staff hustles though.  They really work hard.

Did you think we should have taken a week or two off to play it cool?

They knew decommitment was brewing & jumped on it. 
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: RedStormNC on March 03, 2016, 09:59:26 PM
They did exactly what top recruiters are supposed to do..

There are only a handful of top 100 players totally uncommitted (like Rawle) or verbally committed but unsigned. 

News gets out quickly and it's really just a phone call and plane ride away.   Who knows if in the inner circles they had inkling this decommit might be happening anyway.

With the chances of getting none of them likely, it makes sense to pursue a newly available opportunity.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Poison on March 03, 2016, 10:25:32 PM
I think we have a better shot at getting Rawle then Ferguson.  The thing that bothers me is how quick we were on this kid.  Doesn't sound like they are at all liking their chances with the hometown kid.  Really have to like the way this staff hustles though.  They really work hard.

That shouldn't bother you. We want the staff to be ready when there is an opportunity. Rawlie has been recruited. The staff has been to see him countless times. At some point, you've got to recognize that you've made your case, and now it's time to wait for a decision. There is no value in recreating the recruiting that we suffered through with Norm Roberts. He kissed their asses, and they all left anyway.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: WillieG on March 03, 2016, 11:35:46 PM
I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's.  I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us.  I wish I was so sure.  And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle.  Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.

Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?

.
Check out the "First Mullin bash" thread.  THAT'S why we need Rawle.  We need to be competitive in league immediately or the recruiting window that our new coach has will close from all the negativity.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 04, 2016, 08:51:01 AM
As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.

I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Moose on March 04, 2016, 09:01:16 AM
As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.

I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.

How's that appropriately named high school he goes to?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: TONYD3 on March 04, 2016, 09:11:21 AM
I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's.  I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us.  I wish I was so sure.  And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle.  Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.

Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?

.
Check out the "First Mullin bash" thread.  THAT'S why we need Rawle.  We need to be competitive in league immediately or the recruiting window that our new coach has will close from all the negativity.
I agree Willie. We need to get off to a fast start next year.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: derk on March 04, 2016, 09:52:42 AM
As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.

I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.

As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.

I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
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So Dave, get on the trail real quick and lock him up. Do we really have a shot at a top 10 kid from Texas, who doesn't know us from a whole in the wall , looking at the horrible year we just had ? That would be impressive .
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 04, 2016, 09:53:03 AM
As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.

I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.

How's that appropriately named high school he goes to?

Unknown.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: scoobydoo on March 04, 2016, 09:56:29 AM
He's a UA kid, right?   Always a plus when they are. 

Never feel good when recruiting against Baylor who it appears already has a serious inside track.  Key is to get him to NY and hope he falls in love. 

Also think staff is still going after Rawle but isn't so confident about him being eligible. 
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on March 04, 2016, 10:04:05 AM
As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.

I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.

How's that appropriately named high school he goes to?

http://usatodayhss.com/2015/coach-says-new-hoops-power-api-is-not-the-new-prime-prep-trevon-duval-billy-preston-terrance-ferguson-mark-vital
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: redslope on March 04, 2016, 12:40:36 PM
Let's get D'angelo and the Aggie to talk to him regarding the wonders of the Big Apple.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: mjdinkins on March 04, 2016, 03:25:29 PM
So Dave, get on the trail real quick and lock him up. Do we really have a shot at a top 10 kid from Texas, who doesn't know us from a whole in the wall , looking at the horrible year we just had ? That would be impressive .

He's actually from Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 05, 2016, 03:48:09 PM
As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.

I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.

As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.

I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.

So Dave, get on the trail real quick and lock him up. Do we really have a shot at a top 10 kid from Texas, who doesn't know us from a whole in the wall , looking at the horrible year we just had ? That would be impressive .
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Lavin showed some interest in Ferg so he's familiar with the school. I could see him coming here from a basketball perspective and personality.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on March 05, 2016, 04:11:48 PM
What prospective one and done player wouldn't want to hitch his wagon to an 8 win team?   ???
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on March 05, 2016, 04:24:43 PM
What prospective one and done player wouldn't want to hitch his wagon to an 8 win team?   ???

Hopefully a kid who is homesick
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on March 05, 2016, 04:28:12 PM
What prospective one and done player wouldn't want to hitch his wagon to an 8 win team?   ???

Hopefully a kid who is homesick

And eligible
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on March 05, 2016, 04:31:52 PM
What prospective one and done player wouldn't want to hitch his wagon to an 8 win team?   ???

Hopefully a kid who is homesick
Thought this was the T. Ferguson thread.  ;) :)
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: thetruth8734 on March 07, 2016, 10:01:52 PM
So we have no shot with him too?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: mjdinkins on March 07, 2016, 10:03:00 PM
So we have no shot with him too?

Are you asking and answering a question all at once?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: thetruth8734 on March 07, 2016, 10:07:00 PM
So we have no shot with him too?

Are you asking and answering a question all at once?

From what I hear lol.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Wods317 on March 08, 2016, 08:48:10 AM
Someone posted an exchange with Ferguson and Shamorie that was on social media. Maybe between him and slice we can get the kid to visit. That is all you can really ask for is a chance to have him visit and plead your case for him to play here.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: LI Redmen on March 08, 2016, 09:07:42 AM
Yes...Shamorie posted a picture right after the announcement captioned "mood: " then Ferg responded and Shamorie said your next, better not dissapoint...so idk if Shamorie knows something we don't but he is considering us from what we have heard and what those interactions mean
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on March 15, 2016, 12:28:05 PM
Five-star Terrance Ferguson will not announce a formal list, instead he will announce his college decision and then sign in the late period.

Per Chip Miller
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Scheppy on March 15, 2016, 06:35:55 PM
Wasn't this another one of Slice great connections.

I guess he is taking his official with another recruit Slice is in of charge with Maker.

Instead of not getting along with Matt get the recruits in for an official.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on March 15, 2016, 07:44:09 PM
Alright dude. Who was it?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on March 16, 2016, 09:57:04 AM
Five-star Terrance Ferguson will not announce a formal list, instead he will announce his college decision and then sign in the late period.

Per Chip Miller

Odd a UK supernut is reporting this.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: SJU79 on March 16, 2016, 11:34:19 AM
Dear Sheppy,
please stop. Thank you.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: mkras99 on March 16, 2016, 11:36:26 AM
Dear Sheppy,
please stop. Thank you.


+1
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on March 16, 2016, 11:50:48 AM
Dear Sheppy,
please stop. Thank you.

Ditto
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on March 16, 2016, 12:22:27 PM
+100000
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: fordham96 on April 01, 2016, 07:43:46 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Moose on April 01, 2016, 08:13:53 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on April 01, 2016, 08:26:27 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: fordham96 on April 01, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle

Him and Kobi Simmons probably pushed Simon out the door and maybe/ironically to SJU.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Moose on April 01, 2016, 08:30:31 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.

Sure maybe.
And he might get 10 mpg doing so.
Hope his ego can handle that
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on April 01, 2016, 08:30:59 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle

Him and Kobi Simmons probably pushed Simon out the door and maybe/ironically to SJU.
Doubt Rawle comes back tail between his legs.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on April 01, 2016, 08:32:19 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.

Sure maybe.
And he might get 10 mpg doing so.
Hope his ego can handle that
More than Diallo.  ;) :)
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on April 01, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
Per Jerry Meyer

Word now circulating that Terrance Ferguson tweet of an announcement is a joke.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: goredmen on April 01, 2016, 08:42:39 PM
Geez Arizona is stockpiling wings.  Trier (if he doesn't leave for NBA), Simmons, Rawle and Ferguson. Should be interesting
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Moose on April 01, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.

Sure maybe.
And he might get 10 mpg doing so.
Hope his ego can handle that
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle

Him and Kobi Simmons probably pushed Simon out the door and maybe/ironically to SJU.
Doubt Rawle comes back tail between his legs.

Not saying I would want him here. Just want kids to make better decisions
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Poison on April 01, 2016, 08:52:08 PM
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.

Sure maybe.
And he might get 10 mpg doing so.
Hope his ego can handle that
All signs point to Zona:

https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640


How you doing Rawle

Him and Kobi Simmons probably pushed Simon out the door and maybe/ironically to SJU.
Doubt Rawle comes back tail between his legs.

Not saying I would want him here. Just want kids to make better decisions

Are you saying that we are a better decision?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Poison on April 01, 2016, 08:53:17 PM
Per Jerry Meyer

Word now circulating that Terrance Ferguson tweet of an announcement is a joke.

Jokes are funny
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: fordham96 on April 01, 2016, 09:26:55 PM
Read the kid's twitter page, he played everybody...

I guess this means SJU still has a shot...LOL!

https://twitter.com/the2kferguson/with_replies
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Johnnystar on April 01, 2016, 10:30:52 PM
My feeling is move on from ferguson. Saw an interview of him during Mcdonalds All American game and although he mentioned us as having contact with him he said he was focused on 3 right now and didnt mention us..I believe it was Baylor, Arizona, and forget the other. Hope I'm wrong but don't want to get my hopes up on this guy
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on April 01, 2016, 10:37:29 PM
My feeling is move on from ferguson. Saw an interview of him during Mcdonalds All American game and although he mentioned us as having contact with him he said he was focused on 3 right now and didnt mention us..I believe it was Baylor, Arizona, and forget the other. Hope I'm wrong but don't want to get my hopes up on this guy
Doubt you have to worry about us getting him. Surprised his April Fools joke wasn't that he was committing to St. John's.  :D
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 01, 2016, 10:47:44 PM
My feeling is move on from ferguson. Saw an interview of him during Mcdonalds All American game and although he mentioned us as having contact with him he said he was focused on 3 right now and didnt mention us..I believe it was Baylor, Arizona, and forget the other. Hope I'm wrong but don't want to get my hopes up on this guy
Doubt you have to worry about us getting him. Surprised his April Fools joke wasn't that he was committing to St. John's.  :D

Who would fall for that?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: fordham96 on April 13, 2016, 08:49:02 PM
Committed to Zona tonight.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on April 13, 2016, 08:55:10 PM
Now the Rawle decommit rumors. :)
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Johnny23 on April 13, 2016, 08:55:42 PM
The kid lit up the Nike hoop summit last weekend. I turned it off at the half as the US dominated and Ferguson was unconscious hitting 6 3's in the first half alone. I too doubt he was ever seriously considering us.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: f0rtycaliber on April 13, 2016, 09:02:41 PM
The kid lit up the Nike hoop summit last weekend. I turned it off at the half as the US dominated and Ferguson was unconscious hitting 6 3's in the first half alone. I too doubt he was ever seriously considering us.

Lets be honest with ourselves:

Why would a potential one-and-done out of Texas be interested in St. John's?

Just another school on the list was what that was..
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Johnnystar on April 13, 2016, 09:05:31 PM
The kid lit up the Nike hoop summit last weekend. I turned it off at the half as the US dominated and Ferguson was unconscious hitting 6 3's in the first half alone. I too doubt he was ever seriously considering us.

Lets be honest with ourselves:

Why would a potential one-and-done out of Texas be interested in St. John's?

Just another school on the list was what that was..

Should have told that to Lavin :)
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: f0rtycaliber on April 13, 2016, 09:17:39 PM
Ferguson, Alkins and Simmons with a returining Allonzo Trier.

Talk about a fully loaded back-court..
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on April 13, 2016, 09:32:40 PM
Ferguson, Alkins and Simmons with a returining Allonzo Trier.

Talk about a fully loaded back-court..

And two of those guys may not be eligible.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marillac on April 13, 2016, 11:21:41 PM
Ferguson, Alkins and Simmons with a returining Allonzo Trier.

Talk about a fully loaded back-court..

Don't forget about Kadeem Allen. JUCO player of the year at Hutchinson, averaged 10 points and 5 assists for Zona.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 03:49:14 PM
We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: mkras99 on April 26, 2016, 03:52:03 PM
We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.

How so?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 03:55:43 PM
We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.

How so?

Someone stepped in and fcked if all up. Draw your own conclusions
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: mkras99 on April 26, 2016, 03:59:38 PM
We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.

How so?

Someone stepped in and fcked if all up. Draw your own conclusions

Let's play this game and drive Shecky crazy.  Slice was going to land him and Matt A screwed it up somehow.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 04:01:27 PM
We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.

How so?

Someone stepped in and fcked if all up. Draw your own conclusions

Let's play this game and drive Shecky crazy.  Slice was going to land him and Matt A screwed it up somehow.

Like a Strawberry homer
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Scheppy on April 26, 2016, 04:24:26 PM
Mkras 99 - lets call your friend Maven - who called you a little shit
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Tha Kid on April 26, 2016, 04:26:08 PM
If what is being suggested is even partially true, then no wonder Slice is pissed and Coach Mullin better rectify this ASAP.  Assistant coaches working against each other is f'ing ridiculous.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 26, 2016, 05:05:50 PM
School did have a legit shot at him but was prudent to back away after learning more about academic standing. Less than 1% shot he qualifies. 
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on April 26, 2016, 05:18:48 PM
School did have a legit shot at him but was prudent to back away after learning more about academic standing. Less than 1% shot he qualifies. 

Exactly what I heard Dave. Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: mjdinkins on April 26, 2016, 05:24:27 PM
If what is being suggested is even partially true, then no wonder Slice is pissed and Coach Mullin better rectify this ASAP.  Assistant coaches working against each other is f'ing ridiculous.

I don't know what exactly happened, but I can also clarify we had a legit shot at landing him.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
So academics is the reason?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 26, 2016, 05:58:12 PM
So academics is the reason?

It was an unfortunate big red flag. No bigger advocate for T-Ferg than myself but it would have been a big waste. AZ is probably gonna get Rawle through the cracks but I highly doubt they can pull two miracles.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 06:58:53 PM
So he won't be playing this year?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: SJUFAN on April 26, 2016, 07:15:03 PM
We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.

How so?

Someone stepped in and fcked if all up. Draw your own conclusions

This is a bunch of horse shit and needs to stop. Nobody is railroading anyone. It is utter nonsense that this talk is going on please don't listen to it.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on April 26, 2016, 07:28:38 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 07:32:19 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: goredmen on April 26, 2016, 07:42:15 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 07:43:11 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: goredmen on April 26, 2016, 07:46:44 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 08:01:02 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: goredmen on April 26, 2016, 08:31:09 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 08:32:10 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Moose on April 26, 2016, 08:35:29 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Howie71 on April 26, 2016, 08:39:31 PM
Fellas, c'mon.  Very obvious that Marco is firmly in Slice camp and has a major hard-on for Matt.  Don't take the bait.  Some folks just need to stir the pot.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: fordham96 on April 26, 2016, 08:40:54 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer

The problem isn't Darien Williams but the implication that Matt A had broad power over the roster last year that Baldi said "finished in last place."  That implies that if only someone else had more power the roster would have been dramatically different when we all know damn well it didn't matter who had the power SJU was going to suck last year and to blame Matt is ridiculous.

As if Slice would have somehow brought in 10 5-star kids within a 2-3 week period, almost all of whom would have had to decommit from another power, and gotten SJU in position to win 25 games if only he had Mullin's ear.

That's the problem I have. 

Darien Williams was not a bad last minute switch especially for a program in desperate need of filling roster spots.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on April 26, 2016, 08:43:36 PM
Last year we had to take all kinds of risks given the state of the roster -- you know that Baldi -- whether academic, health-related or otherwise.  Less so this year.  If a kid like Ferguson was a 50/50 proposition, I'd say take him this year.  If it is as dire as Dave suggests, I'm glad we passed.  We take that scholly THIS year and give it to him instead of a Simon/Clark, and then the kid is declared ineligible, this board would be going nuts.


If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on April 26, 2016, 08:46:57 PM
Again, same thing with Lovett.  Entirely different scenario last season at this time.

If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point.  With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing.  It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this.  Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared. 

If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 08:50:52 PM
Again, same thing with Lovett.  Entirely different scenario last season at this time.

If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point.  With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing.  It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this.  Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared. 

If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?

Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on April 26, 2016, 08:53:46 PM
You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about.  Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I.  If it blows up, it is on Mullin.  I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying.  Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: wpc77 on April 26, 2016, 08:55:40 PM
Again, same thing with Lovett.  Entirely different scenario last season at this time.

If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point.  With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing.  It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this.  Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared. 

If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?

Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?

To be fair, it seems like those charges are going to be dropped or significantly reduced due to the fact that he was apparently being admitted to a mental hospital at the time
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 08:56:21 PM
You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about.  Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I.  If it blows up, it is on Mullin.  I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying.  Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.

Who recruited Livingston? Mullin?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 08:57:21 PM
Again, same thing with Lovett.  Entirely different scenario last season at this time.

If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point.  With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing.  It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this.  Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared. 

If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?

Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?

To be fair, it seems like those charges are going to be dropped or significantly reduced due to the fact that he was apparently being admitted to a mental hospital at the time

Ya that's makes it better
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Amaseinyourface2 on April 26, 2016, 08:57:56 PM
We had two open scholarships this past season. Was Matt not being a good boy and sharing then?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: wpc77 on April 26, 2016, 09:04:13 PM
Again, same thing with Lovett.  Entirely different scenario last season at this time.

If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point.  With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing.  It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this.  Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared. 

If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?

Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?

To be fair, it seems like those charges are going to be dropped or significantly reduced due to the fact that he was apparently being admitted to a mental hospital at the time

Ya that's makes it better

I didn't say that. Pointing out that legal woes likely not to be issue soon
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 26, 2016, 09:06:47 PM
Again, same thing with Lovett.  Entirely different scenario last season at this time.

If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point.  With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing.  It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this.  Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared. 

If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?

Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?

To be fair, it seems like those charges are going to be dropped or significantly reduced due to the fact that he was apparently being admitted to a mental hospital at the time

Ya that's makes it better

I didn't say that. Pointing out that legal woes likely not to be issue soon

Didnt mean to single you out. Just speaking in general
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on April 26, 2016, 09:12:38 PM
I agree with you that the incident, on its face and without me knowing anything about it, seems like a major red flag.  I trust the staff is comfortable with the situation if we take him.  You think Chris Mullin - who has tons of family and friends who are cops (and does/has done plenty of charity work for cops) -- would take the kid if he wasn't comfortable with it or thought the kid was a thug?  I don't.

Assault is assault.  We've had kids in the past who did some dumb stuff when they were young, and I don't recall you having an issue if it was an isolated incident by an otherwise good kid.  Ditto for our Iona Gaels, who had our second best player and best big assault someone during the season and suit up a game or two later.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: mjmaherjr on April 26, 2016, 09:23:15 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer

The problem isn't Darien Williams but the implication that Matt A had broad power over the roster last year that Baldi said "finished in last place."  That implies that if only someone else had more power the roster would have been dramatically different when we all know damn well it didn't matter who had the power SJU was going to suck last year and to blame Matt is ridiculous.

As if Slice would have somehow brought in 10 5-star kids within a 2-3 week period, almost all of whom would have had to decommit from another power, and gotten SJU in position to win 25 games if only he had Mullin's ear.

That's the problem I have. 

Darien Williams was not a bad last minute switch especially for a program in desperate need of filling roster spots.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer

The problem isn't Darien Williams but the implication that Matt A had broad power over the roster last year that Baldi said "finished in last place."  That implies that if only someone else had more power the roster would have been dramatically different when we all know damn well it didn't matter who had the power SJU was going to suck last year and to blame Matt is ridiculous.

As if Slice would have somehow brought in 10 5-star kids within a 2-3 week period, almost all of whom would have had to decommit from another power, and gotten SJU in position to win 25 games if only he had Mullin's ear.

That's the problem I have. 

Darien Williams was not a bad last minute switch especially for a program in desperate need of filling roster spots.
   How about this. Maybe what Baldi means which maybe he isn't saying exactly the right way is no coach assistant or otherwise should be acting  like they are above anyone else or singlehandedly resurrecting the program until they have actually done something tangible in the won loss column. Now if we   win 15 games next year then that I believe that is tangible improvement
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: fordham96 on April 26, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
Acting?  How is he acting like anything?

BTW-If half the things being said currently about Coach Mullin's staff were said about Coach Lavin's staff you wouldn't hear stuff about the staff member you would hear it about the HC.

BTW-I could care less about this nonsense, the thread is about Ferguson can we keep it on topic.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Celtics11 on April 26, 2016, 09:45:51 PM
Does anyone really think Matt has autonomy to bring in any recruit he wants? No, CM has final say as any head coach has so if Matt comes to him and says I want to bring in so and so transfer and Slice says I got a 5 star that wants to sign, CM has ultimate decision. Ergo no one should have a problem with Matt or Slice, if anyone it should be Chris. Personally I don't have a problem with any of them as I like the way recruiting has gone. Frankly, if there is anything going on between members of the staff I don't give a sheet. They are all grown men let them figure it out.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: ras on April 26, 2016, 09:52:56 PM
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.

Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?

Completely different situation and you know it

How so? Waste of a Scholly no?

Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place

So he wasn't a health concern?

He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not

He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer

The problem isn't Darien Williams but the implication that Matt A had broad power over the roster last year that Baldi said "finished in last place."  That implies that if only someone else had more power the roster would have been dramatically different when we all know damn well it didn't matter who had the power SJU was going to suck last year and to blame Matt is ridiculous.

As if Slice would have somehow brought in 10 5-star kids within a 2-3 week period, almost all of whom would have had to decommit from another power, and gotten SJU in position to win 25 games if only he had Mullin's ear.

That's the problem I have. 

Darien Williams was not a bad last minute switch especially for a program in desperate need of filling roster spots.
By the time Mullin took the coaching job most recruits were committed. Pickings were slim. I think the staff did a good job considering the circumstances. Getting Lovett, Yakwe and Sima were excellent pickups.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Pete88 on April 26, 2016, 10:21:05 PM
You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about.  Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I.  If it blows up, it is on Mullin.  I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying.  Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.

Who recruited Livingston? Mullin?

Yes... or does Mullin now report to Matt?  You killed Lavin for all things bad at SJU, but now Mullin holds no responsibility for anything specially a decision to bring in a shady character?  At least your consistent with your agenda items. 
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 27, 2016, 08:02:09 AM
You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about.  Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I.  If it blows up, it is on Mullin.  I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying.  Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.

Who recruited Livingston? Mullin?

Yes... or does Mullin now report to Matt?  You killed Lavin for all things bad at SJU, but now Mullin holds no responsibility for anything specially a decision to bring in a shady character?  At least your consistent with your agenda items. 

You missed the point, not surprising.

I thought Matt got all the recruits, now you say it's Mullin?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Pete88 on April 27, 2016, 09:19:56 AM
You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about.  Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I.  If it blows up, it is on Mullin.  I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying.  Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.

Who recruited Livingston? Mullin?

Yes... or does Mullin now report to Matt?  You killed Lavin for all things bad at SJU, but now Mullin holds no responsibility for anything specially a decision to bring in a shady character?  At least your consistent with your agenda items. 

You missed the point, not surprising.

I thought Matt got all the recruits, now you say it's Mullin?

No, I get the point... although you try hard to be cryptic with your posts, they are actually quite clear.  Maybe its you that doesn't understand.

Matt acts like he does because Mullin allows it, Slice is MIA because Mullin allows it, Matt recruits Livingston because Mullin allows it, St. Jean acts like the coach on the sidelines because Mullin allows it.

If this disharmony was happening under Lavin, you would hold his ass to the fire for allowing such tomfoolery .  But alas your vendetta is not against Mullin but some mid-twenties assistant.  I have an idea, how about you and everyone else starts to question Mullin for allowing all of this (if there is any of this) to fester?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Foad on April 27, 2016, 09:54:38 AM
If this disharmony was happening under Lavin, you would hold his ass to the fire for allowing such tomfoolery .  But alas your vendetta is not against Mullin but some mid-twenties assistant.  I have an idea, how about you and everyone else starts to question Mullin for allowing all of this (if there is any of this) to fester?

We have a BB legend as head coach, the best recruiter in the game as associate, two prodigies as assistants, and two outstanding recruiting classes in a row. Only at SJU would this be described as festering and only at SJU would it be cause for discontent. This is the most delusional fan base in college BB outside of Westwood. At least they have a past to be delusional about.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on June 06, 2016, 05:57:37 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/connection-to-texas-school-may-force-another-nba-prospect-to-skip-college/
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on June 07, 2016, 05:41:27 PM
Guess Mullin and Matt were right to pass on this one….
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marco Baldi on June 07, 2016, 10:28:09 PM
Guess Mullin and Matt were right to pass on this one….

Ya I guess they passed on a lot of top 50 guys
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on June 08, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
Don't understand the comment.  Clearly, they wouldn't pass on any top 50 kid who they thought might be interested in the school and had a chance at being eligible (e.g., Alkins).  Dave and others said that Ferguson had no chance of being eligible, which is why he apparently is going overseas.  So, yes, I do think it was smart Mullin & Co. passed on the kid.  You disagree?  Has nothing to do with who recruited him.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: pmg911 on June 08, 2016, 12:30:29 PM
Don't understand the comment.  Clearly, they wouldn't pass on any top 50 kid who they thought might be interested in the school and had a chance at being eligible (e.g., Alkins).  Dave and others said that Ferguson had no chance of being eligible, which is why he apparently is going overseas.  So, yes, I do think it was smart Mullin & Co. passed on the kid.  You disagree?  Has nothing to do with who recruited him.

You really think they had the opportunity to pass...
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: prjohnnies on June 08, 2016, 12:34:33 PM
PMG - I have no clue.  Baldi, Dave and others implied that we had a legit shot at Ferguson, but that the staff chose to back off because his transcript and grades were such that he was not going to be eligible (which is apparently the case).
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: newsman13 on June 08, 2016, 03:05:40 PM
If this disharmony was happening under Lavin, you would hold his ass to the fire for allowing such tomfoolery .  But alas your vendetta is not against Mullin but some mid-twenties assistant.  I have an idea, how about you and everyone else starts to question Mullin for allowing all of this (if there is any of this) to fester?

We have a BB legend as head coach, the best recruiter in the game as associate, two prodigies as assistants, and two outstanding recruiting classes in a row. Only at SJU would this be described as festering and only at SJU would it be cause for discontent. This is the most delusional fan base in college BB outside of Westwood. At least they have a past to be delusional about.

The best recruiter in the game as associate is out.  Let the festering begin.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Foad on June 08, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
If this disharmony was happening under Lavin, you would hold his ass to the fire for allowing such tomfoolery .  But alas your vendetta is not against Mullin but some mid-twenties assistant.  I have an idea, how about you and everyone else starts to question Mullin for allowing all of this (if there is any of this) to fester?

We have a BB legend as head coach, the best recruiter in the game as associate, two prodigies as assistants, and two outstanding recruiting classes in a row. Only at SJU would this be described as festering and only at SJU would it be cause for discontent. This is the most delusional fan base in college BB outside of Westwood. At least they have a past to be delusional about.

The best recruiter in the game as associate is out.  Let the festering begin.

Actually if he's out the festering is over and Mullin should be congratulated for excising it.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: paultzman on June 30, 2016, 12:09:59 PM

Olgun Uluc – Verified account ‏@OlgunUluc

It's official. Terrance Ferguson has chosen not to attend the University of Arizona. He'll join the Adelaide 36ers in Australia's NBL
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marillac on June 30, 2016, 01:25:32 PM

Olgun Uluc – Verified account ‏@OlgunUluc

It's official. Terrance Ferguson has chosen not to attend the University of Arizona. He'll join the Adelaide 36ers in Australia's NBL

Dunlap's old team.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Johnny23 on June 30, 2016, 01:29:11 PM
Sounds like he would've been ineligible to play in college this year.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Poison on June 30, 2016, 08:45:19 PM
Australia sounds like it will be a great experience for him + he gets to instantly create a better life for his family. And, he doesn't have to go to college in a dust bin filled with white trash. It's a win win.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Marillac on June 30, 2016, 08:53:15 PM
Australia sounds like it will be a great experience for him + he gets to instantly create a better life for his family. And, he doesn't have to go to college in a dust bin filled with white trash. It's a win win.

You clearly have no clue how hot the girls are there. But nowhere is worth living besides NYC to you so you're hopeless.
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: Poison on July 01, 2016, 12:15:19 AM
Australia sounds like it will be a great experience for him + he gets to instantly create a better life for his family. And, he doesn't have to go to college in a dust bin filled with white trash. It's a win win.

You clearly have no clue how hot the girls are there. But nowhere is worth living besides NYC to you so you're hopeless.

Yea, NY has nothing on Tuscon. Lol. Who's clueless?
Title: Re: Terrance Ferguson - SF - Dallas, TX - API
Post by: SJUFAN on July 01, 2016, 12:43:32 PM
Australia sounds like it will be a great experience for him + he gets to instantly create a better life for his family. And, he doesn't have to go to college in a dust bin filled with white trash. It's a win win.

You clearly have no clue how hot the girls are there. But nowhere is worth living besides NYC to you so you're hopeless.

Yea, NY has nothing on Tuscon. Lol. Who's clueless?

That's a ignorant statement Poison. You cant even compare the girls that attend Arizona or Arizona St. to SJU. Speaking strictly on college life, which I think is only fair to do for a 18/19 year old kid. He's not poppin bubbly with models in Tribeca.