6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2016 Class => Topic started by: JohnnyJungle on March 01, 2016, 03:35:23 PM
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Just de-committed from Alabama. I'm ALL IN on him if I'm the coaching staff. He is equal parts of freakish athlete and shooter. Would fit very well with surrounding parts. I do have some hesitancy about his eligibility but worth the risk with pieces that are already committed to the team.
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Just de-committed from Alabama. I'm ALL IN on him if I'm the coaching staff. He is equal parts of freakish athlete and shooter. Would fit very well with surrounding parts. I do have some hesitancy about his eligibility but worth the risk with pieces that are already committed to the team.
Don't recall us ever being mentioned with him. As the #13 ranked recruit would imagine all the bigs will be in on him and the schools that were already recruiting him. Have too believe he would be a very very tough get.
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It appears Baylor is making a move on him.
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hey guys new poster here...put something up about myself on the New/Old members introduce yourself forum... I think this kid has some serious talent but has the staff contacted him at all?
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Tweet from Evan Daniels
St. John's dropped by Dallas (Tex.) API to see five-star wing Terrance Ferguson, who decommitted from Alabama yesterday, per a source.
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I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's. I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us. I wish I was so sure. And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle. Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
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I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's. I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us. I wish I was so sure. And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle. Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?
Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.
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This kid has serious hops and ridiculous length. Having him alongside Rich, Bash, Kass and Sima would be imposing as it gets in college basketball. Keep grinding and picking up those frequent flyer miles Slice!
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I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's. I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us. I wish I was so sure. And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle. Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?
Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.
We are in it for Rawle. There's no doubt about that
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I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's. I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us. I wish I was so sure. And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle. Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?
Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.
We are in it for Rawle. There's no doubt about that
Not sure I'd say in it. Just hanging around.
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I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's. I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us. I wish I was so sure. And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle. Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?
Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.
We are in it for Rawle. There's no doubt about that
Not sure I'd say in it. Just hanging around.
No, we're in it.
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I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's. I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us. I wish I was so sure. And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle. Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?
Been saying it from jump street there was no shot.
We are in it for Rawle. There's no doubt about that
Not sure I'd say in it. Just hanging around.
Quite a difference between No shot and saying you are not sure you would say we are in it. Just sayin.
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Per Zach Braziller
Was told St. John's working on getting five-star wing Terrence Ferguson in for a visit. Barry Rohrssen saw him yesterday. #sjubb
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A bird in the hand... Press for Ferguson hard! It would make everybody forget about the Rawle drama quickly...
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Maybe then can get Harrison to tell how great it was playing in NY
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Wow didn't even think about how Harrison was in Texas...Pretty sure D'Lo would do anything for the SJU but stuff like that rarely happens.
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I think we have a better shot at getting Rawle then Ferguson. The thing that bothers me is how quick we were on this kid. Doesn't sound like they are at all liking their chances with the hometown kid. Really have to like the way this staff hustles though. They really work hard.
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I think we have a better shot at getting Rawle then Ferguson. The thing that bothers me is how quick we were on this kid. Doesn't sound like they are at all liking their chances with the hometown kid. Really have to like the way this staff hustles though. They really work hard.
Did you think we should have taken a week or two off to play it cool?
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I think we have a better shot at getting Rawle then Ferguson. The thing that bothers me is how quick we were on this kid. Doesn't sound like they are at all liking their chances with the hometown kid. Really have to like the way this staff hustles though. They really work hard.
Did you think we should have taken a week or two off to play it cool?
They knew decommitment was brewing & jumped on it.
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They did exactly what top recruiters are supposed to do..
There are only a handful of top 100 players totally uncommitted (like Rawle) or verbally committed but unsigned.
News gets out quickly and it's really just a phone call and plane ride away. Who knows if in the inner circles they had inkling this decommit might be happening anyway.
With the chances of getting none of them likely, it makes sense to pursue a newly available opportunity.
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I think we have a better shot at getting Rawle then Ferguson. The thing that bothers me is how quick we were on this kid. Doesn't sound like they are at all liking their chances with the hometown kid. Really have to like the way this staff hustles though. They really work hard.
That shouldn't bother you. We want the staff to be ready when there is an opportunity. Rawlie has been recruited. The staff has been to see him countless times. At some point, you've got to recognize that you've made your case, and now it's time to wait for a decision. There is no value in recreating the recruiting that we suffered through with Norm Roberts. He kissed their asses, and they all left anyway.
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I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's. I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us. I wish I was so sure. And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle. Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?
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Check out the "First Mullin bash" thread. THAT'S why we need Rawle. We need to be competitive in league immediately or the recruiting window that our new coach has will close from all the negativity.
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As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.
I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
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As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.
I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
How's that appropriately named high school he goes to?
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I have never been as vexed about a recruitment as I am with Rawle's. I'm still hearing from two different people in Canarsie that he is seriously considering us. I wish I was so sure. And now this, as if the staff is nowhere near confident about landing Rawle. Tough to compete with the southern boosters, on someone like Ferguson, as I have posted in the past. We really need Rawle, unless Ellison shows great improvement.
Why does St. John's 'need' Rawle?
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Check out the "First Mullin bash" thread. THAT'S why we need Rawle. We need to be competitive in league immediately or the recruiting window that our new coach has will close from all the negativity.
I agree Willie. We need to get off to a fast start next year.
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As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.
I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.
I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
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So Dave, get on the trail real quick and lock him up. Do we really have a shot at a top 10 kid from Texas, who doesn't know us from a whole in the wall , looking at the horrible year we just had ? That would be impressive .
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As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.
I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
How's that appropriately named high school he goes to?
Unknown.
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He's a UA kid, right? Always a plus when they are.
Never feel good when recruiting against Baylor who it appears already has a serious inside track. Key is to get him to NY and hope he falls in love.
Also think staff is still going after Rawle but isn't so confident about him being eligible.
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As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.
I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
How's that appropriately named high school he goes to?
http://usatodayhss.com/2015/coach-says-new-hoops-power-api-is-not-the-new-prime-prep-trevon-duval-billy-preston-terrance-ferguson-mark-vital
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Let's get D'angelo and the Aggie to talk to him regarding the wonders of the Big Apple.
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So Dave, get on the trail real quick and lock him up. Do we really have a shot at a top 10 kid from Texas, who doesn't know us from a whole in the wall , looking at the horrible year we just had ? That would be impressive .
He's actually from Oklahoma.
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As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.
I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
As for Ferguson he'd be a tremendous fit to roster. I've known him a long time and he's such a great kid that would thrive in NYC. I think if staff goes all in on him they'll have a legit chance at landing him unlike my feelings towards Rawle.
I think you'd all drool over T-Ferg too. Long lanky guard who is a super freaky leaper and has a picturesque stroke with deep range.
So Dave, get on the trail real quick and lock him up. Do we really have a shot at a top 10 kid from Texas, who doesn't know us from a whole in the wall , looking at the horrible year we just had ? That would be impressive .
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Lavin showed some interest in Ferg so he's familiar with the school. I could see him coming here from a basketball perspective and personality.
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What prospective one and done player wouldn't want to hitch his wagon to an 8 win team? ???
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What prospective one and done player wouldn't want to hitch his wagon to an 8 win team? ???
Hopefully a kid who is homesick
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What prospective one and done player wouldn't want to hitch his wagon to an 8 win team? ???
Hopefully a kid who is homesick
And eligible
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What prospective one and done player wouldn't want to hitch his wagon to an 8 win team? ???
Hopefully a kid who is homesick
Thought this was the T. Ferguson thread. ;) :)
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So we have no shot with him too?
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So we have no shot with him too?
Are you asking and answering a question all at once?
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So we have no shot with him too?
Are you asking and answering a question all at once?
From what I hear lol.
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Someone posted an exchange with Ferguson and Shamorie that was on social media. Maybe between him and slice we can get the kid to visit. That is all you can really ask for is a chance to have him visit and plead your case for him to play here.
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Yes...Shamorie posted a picture right after the announcement captioned "mood: " then Ferg responded and Shamorie said your next, better not dissapoint...so idk if Shamorie knows something we don't but he is considering us from what we have heard and what those interactions mean
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Five-star Terrance Ferguson will not announce a formal list, instead he will announce his college decision and then sign in the late period.
Per Chip Miller
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Wasn't this another one of Slice great connections.
I guess he is taking his official with another recruit Slice is in of charge with Maker.
Instead of not getting along with Matt get the recruits in for an official.
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Alright dude. Who was it?
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Five-star Terrance Ferguson will not announce a formal list, instead he will announce his college decision and then sign in the late period.
Per Chip Miller
Odd a UK supernut is reporting this.
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Dear Sheppy,
please stop. Thank you.
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Dear Sheppy,
please stop. Thank you.
+1
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Dear Sheppy,
please stop. Thank you.
Ditto
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+100000
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Him and Kobi Simmons probably pushed Simon out the door and maybe/ironically to SJU.
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.
Sure maybe.
And he might get 10 mpg doing so.
Hope his ego can handle that
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Him and Kobi Simmons probably pushed Simon out the door and maybe/ironically to SJU.
Doubt Rawle comes back tail between his legs.
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.
Sure maybe.
And he might get 10 mpg doing so.
Hope his ego can handle that
More than Diallo. ;) :)
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Per Jerry Meyer
Word now circulating that Terrance Ferguson tweet of an announcement is a joke.
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Geez Arizona is stockpiling wings. Trier (if he doesn't leave for NBA), Simmons, Rawle and Ferguson. Should be interesting
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.
Sure maybe.
And he might get 10 mpg doing so.
Hope his ego can handle that
All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Him and Kobi Simmons probably pushed Simon out the door and maybe/ironically to SJU.
Doubt Rawle comes back tail between his legs.
Not saying I would want him here. Just want kids to make better decisions
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All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Hate to say it but maybe going to final 4 instead of possibly the NIT.
Sure maybe.
And he might get 10 mpg doing so.
Hope his ego can handle that
All signs point to Zona:
https://twitter.com/BrucePascoe/status/716040802275696640
How you doing Rawle
Him and Kobi Simmons probably pushed Simon out the door and maybe/ironically to SJU.
Doubt Rawle comes back tail between his legs.
Not saying I would want him here. Just want kids to make better decisions
Are you saying that we are a better decision?
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Per Jerry Meyer
Word now circulating that Terrance Ferguson tweet of an announcement is a joke.
Jokes are funny
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Read the kid's twitter page, he played everybody...
I guess this means SJU still has a shot...LOL!
https://twitter.com/the2kferguson/with_replies
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My feeling is move on from ferguson. Saw an interview of him during Mcdonalds All American game and although he mentioned us as having contact with him he said he was focused on 3 right now and didnt mention us..I believe it was Baylor, Arizona, and forget the other. Hope I'm wrong but don't want to get my hopes up on this guy
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My feeling is move on from ferguson. Saw an interview of him during Mcdonalds All American game and although he mentioned us as having contact with him he said he was focused on 3 right now and didnt mention us..I believe it was Baylor, Arizona, and forget the other. Hope I'm wrong but don't want to get my hopes up on this guy
Doubt you have to worry about us getting him. Surprised his April Fools joke wasn't that he was committing to St. John's. :D
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My feeling is move on from ferguson. Saw an interview of him during Mcdonalds All American game and although he mentioned us as having contact with him he said he was focused on 3 right now and didnt mention us..I believe it was Baylor, Arizona, and forget the other. Hope I'm wrong but don't want to get my hopes up on this guy
Doubt you have to worry about us getting him. Surprised his April Fools joke wasn't that he was committing to St. John's. :D
Who would fall for that?
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Committed to Zona tonight.
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Now the Rawle decommit rumors. :)
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The kid lit up the Nike hoop summit last weekend. I turned it off at the half as the US dominated and Ferguson was unconscious hitting 6 3's in the first half alone. I too doubt he was ever seriously considering us.
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The kid lit up the Nike hoop summit last weekend. I turned it off at the half as the US dominated and Ferguson was unconscious hitting 6 3's in the first half alone. I too doubt he was ever seriously considering us.
Lets be honest with ourselves:
Why would a potential one-and-done out of Texas be interested in St. John's?
Just another school on the list was what that was..
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The kid lit up the Nike hoop summit last weekend. I turned it off at the half as the US dominated and Ferguson was unconscious hitting 6 3's in the first half alone. I too doubt he was ever seriously considering us.
Lets be honest with ourselves:
Why would a potential one-and-done out of Texas be interested in St. John's?
Just another school on the list was what that was..
Should have told that to Lavin :)
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Ferguson, Alkins and Simmons with a returining Allonzo Trier.
Talk about a fully loaded back-court..
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Ferguson, Alkins and Simmons with a returining Allonzo Trier.
Talk about a fully loaded back-court..
And two of those guys may not be eligible.
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Ferguson, Alkins and Simmons with a returining Allonzo Trier.
Talk about a fully loaded back-court..
Don't forget about Kadeem Allen. JUCO player of the year at Hutchinson, averaged 10 points and 5 assists for Zona.
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We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.
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We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.
How so?
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We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.
How so?
Someone stepped in and fcked if all up. Draw your own conclusions
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We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.
How so?
Someone stepped in and fcked if all up. Draw your own conclusions
Let's play this game and drive Shecky crazy. Slice was going to land him and Matt A screwed it up somehow.
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We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.
How so?
Someone stepped in and fcked if all up. Draw your own conclusions
Let's play this game and drive Shecky crazy. Slice was going to land him and Matt A screwed it up somehow.
Like a Strawberry homer
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Mkras 99 - lets call your friend Maven - who called you a little shit
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If what is being suggested is even partially true, then no wonder Slice is pissed and Coach Mullin better rectify this ASAP. Assistant coaches working against each other is f'ing ridiculous.
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School did have a legit shot at him but was prudent to back away after learning more about academic standing. Less than 1% shot he qualifies.
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School did have a legit shot at him but was prudent to back away after learning more about academic standing. Less than 1% shot he qualifies.
Exactly what I heard Dave. Thanks for clarifying.
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If what is being suggested is even partially true, then no wonder Slice is pissed and Coach Mullin better rectify this ASAP. Assistant coaches working against each other is f'ing ridiculous.
I don't know what exactly happened, but I can also clarify we had a legit shot at landing him.
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So academics is the reason?
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So academics is the reason?
It was an unfortunate big red flag. No bigger advocate for T-Ferg than myself but it would have been a big waste. AZ is probably gonna get Rawle through the cracks but I highly doubt they can pull two miracles.
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So he won't be playing this year?
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We were right there with this kid,and got railroaded.
How so?
Someone stepped in and fcked if all up. Draw your own conclusions
This is a bunch of horse shit and needs to stop. Nobody is railroading anyone. It is utter nonsense that this talk is going on please don't listen to it.
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer
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Fellas, c'mon. Very obvious that Marco is firmly in Slice camp and has a major hard-on for Matt. Don't take the bait. Some folks just need to stir the pot.
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer
The problem isn't Darien Williams but the implication that Matt A had broad power over the roster last year that Baldi said "finished in last place." That implies that if only someone else had more power the roster would have been dramatically different when we all know damn well it didn't matter who had the power SJU was going to suck last year and to blame Matt is ridiculous.
As if Slice would have somehow brought in 10 5-star kids within a 2-3 week period, almost all of whom would have had to decommit from another power, and gotten SJU in position to win 25 games if only he had Mullin's ear.
That's the problem I have.
Darien Williams was not a bad last minute switch especially for a program in desperate need of filling roster spots.
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Last year we had to take all kinds of risks given the state of the roster -- you know that Baldi -- whether academic, health-related or otherwise. Less so this year. If a kid like Ferguson was a 50/50 proposition, I'd say take him this year. If it is as dire as Dave suggests, I'm glad we passed. We take that scholly THIS year and give it to him instead of a Simon/Clark, and then the kid is declared ineligible, this board would be going nuts.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
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Again, same thing with Lovett. Entirely different scenario last season at this time.
If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point. With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing. It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this. Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
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Again, same thing with Lovett. Entirely different scenario last season at this time.
If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point. With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing. It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this. Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?
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You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about. Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I. If it blows up, it is on Mullin. I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying. Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.
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Again, same thing with Lovett. Entirely different scenario last season at this time.
If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point. With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing. It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this. Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?
To be fair, it seems like those charges are going to be dropped or significantly reduced due to the fact that he was apparently being admitted to a mental hospital at the time
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You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about. Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I. If it blows up, it is on Mullin. I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying. Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.
Who recruited Livingston? Mullin?
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Again, same thing with Lovett. Entirely different scenario last season at this time.
If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point. With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing. It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this. Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?
To be fair, it seems like those charges are going to be dropped or significantly reduced due to the fact that he was apparently being admitted to a mental hospital at the time
Ya that's makes it better
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We had two open scholarships this past season. Was Matt not being a good boy and sharing then?
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Again, same thing with Lovett. Entirely different scenario last season at this time.
If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point. With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing. It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this. Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?
To be fair, it seems like those charges are going to be dropped or significantly reduced due to the fact that he was apparently being admitted to a mental hospital at the time
Ya that's makes it better
I didn't say that. Pointing out that legal woes likely not to be issue soon
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Again, same thing with Lovett. Entirely different scenario last season at this time.
If you told me Ferguson was a flip of the coin and isn't looking to be a one and done kid, I'd agree with you Baldi that he'd be worth the risk, even at this point. With what Dave and others said, I'm OK passing. It isn't like we have the best track record with dealing with the NCAA on this. Even with Lovett, there were plenty of people not connected to the program, but dialed into the college hoops scene, who thought he had a solid shot at being cleared.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
We also had a Scholly for Lovett. But none for a McDonald's AA?
Yet we have a Scholly in waiting for a guy with a felony and 3 misdemeanors pending?
To be fair, it seems like those charges are going to be dropped or significantly reduced due to the fact that he was apparently being admitted to a mental hospital at the time
Ya that's makes it better
I didn't say that. Pointing out that legal woes likely not to be issue soon
Didnt mean to single you out. Just speaking in general
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I agree with you that the incident, on its face and without me knowing anything about it, seems like a major red flag. I trust the staff is comfortable with the situation if we take him. You think Chris Mullin - who has tons of family and friends who are cops (and does/has done plenty of charity work for cops) -- would take the kid if he wasn't comfortable with it or thought the kid was a thug? I don't.
Assault is assault. We've had kids in the past who did some dumb stuff when they were young, and I don't recall you having an issue if it was an isolated incident by an otherwise good kid. Ditto for our Iona Gaels, who had our second best player and best big assault someone during the season and suit up a game or two later.
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer
The problem isn't Darien Williams but the implication that Matt A had broad power over the roster last year that Baldi said "finished in last place." That implies that if only someone else had more power the roster would have been dramatically different when we all know damn well it didn't matter who had the power SJU was going to suck last year and to blame Matt is ridiculous.
As if Slice would have somehow brought in 10 5-star kids within a 2-3 week period, almost all of whom would have had to decommit from another power, and gotten SJU in position to win 25 games if only he had Mullin's ear.
That's the problem I have.
Darien Williams was not a bad last minute switch especially for a program in desperate need of filling roster spots.
If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer
The problem isn't Darien Williams but the implication that Matt A had broad power over the roster last year that Baldi said "finished in last place." That implies that if only someone else had more power the roster would have been dramatically different when we all know damn well it didn't matter who had the power SJU was going to suck last year and to blame Matt is ridiculous.
As if Slice would have somehow brought in 10 5-star kids within a 2-3 week period, almost all of whom would have had to decommit from another power, and gotten SJU in position to win 25 games if only he had Mullin's ear.
That's the problem I have.
Darien Williams was not a bad last minute switch especially for a program in desperate need of filling roster spots.
How about this. Maybe what Baldi means which maybe he isn't saying exactly the right way is no coach assistant or otherwise should be acting like they are above anyone else or singlehandedly resurrecting the program until they have actually done something tangible in the won loss column. Now if we win 15 games next year then that I believe that is tangible improvement
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Acting? How is he acting like anything?
BTW-If half the things being said currently about Coach Mullin's staff were said about Coach Lavin's staff you wouldn't hear stuff about the staff member you would hear it about the HC.
BTW-I could care less about this nonsense, the thread is about Ferguson can we keep it on topic.
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Does anyone really think Matt has autonomy to bring in any recruit he wants? No, CM has final say as any head coach has so if Matt comes to him and says I want to bring in so and so transfer and Slice says I got a 5 star that wants to sign, CM has ultimate decision. Ergo no one should have a problem with Matt or Slice, if anyone it should be Chris. Personally I don't have a problem with any of them as I like the way recruiting has gone. Frankly, if there is anything going on between members of the staff I don't give a sheet. They are all grown men let them figure it out.
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If we landed the kid, lost out on one of the transfers, this board would be going to ballistic. I'm all for a school like SJU taking risks, especially at this stage, but would pass on any kid who the staff thinks is highly likely to be ineligible.
Like everyone went ballistic with the Darien Williams Scholly?
Completely different situation and you know it
How so? Waste of a Scholly no?
Sure, now it is. But he was brought in with no eligibility concerns as somebody that was going to contribute for a few years. Unfortunately he got hurt and hasn't panned out as hoped but that's completely different than the staff burning a scholarship and losing other transfers/recruits because they brought in a guy who was a long shot to ever be eligible in the first place
So he wasn't a health concern?
He was healthy when he walked on campus and when the season started. Sure he was more of an injury risk than others would be but that's infinitely less predictable than a guy being eligible or not
He wasn't actually. Had surgery over the summer
The problem isn't Darien Williams but the implication that Matt A had broad power over the roster last year that Baldi said "finished in last place." That implies that if only someone else had more power the roster would have been dramatically different when we all know damn well it didn't matter who had the power SJU was going to suck last year and to blame Matt is ridiculous.
As if Slice would have somehow brought in 10 5-star kids within a 2-3 week period, almost all of whom would have had to decommit from another power, and gotten SJU in position to win 25 games if only he had Mullin's ear.
That's the problem I have.
Darien Williams was not a bad last minute switch especially for a program in desperate need of filling roster spots.
By the time Mullin took the coaching job most recruits were committed. Pickings were slim. I think the staff did a good job considering the circumstances. Getting Lovett, Yakwe and Sima were excellent pickups.
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You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about. Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I. If it blows up, it is on Mullin. I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying. Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.
Who recruited Livingston? Mullin?
Yes... or does Mullin now report to Matt? You killed Lavin for all things bad at SJU, but now Mullin holds no responsibility for anything specially a decision to bring in a shady character? At least your consistent with your agenda items.
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You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about. Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I. If it blows up, it is on Mullin. I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying. Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.
Who recruited Livingston? Mullin?
Yes... or does Mullin now report to Matt? You killed Lavin for all things bad at SJU, but now Mullin holds no responsibility for anything specially a decision to bring in a shady character? At least your consistent with your agenda items.
You missed the point, not surprising.
I thought Matt got all the recruits, now you say it's Mullin?
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You responded that you were all for Livington assuming the staff was comfortable, irrespective that incident, which frankly I don't know much about. Assuming Chris Mullin is OK with the off-the-court stuff, so am I. If it blows up, it is on Mullin. I'd rather have Livingston than a kid who Dave says has a 1% chance of qualifying. Again, if you are telling me that academics were better than what Dave says, I might change my mind.
Who recruited Livingston? Mullin?
Yes... or does Mullin now report to Matt? You killed Lavin for all things bad at SJU, but now Mullin holds no responsibility for anything specially a decision to bring in a shady character? At least your consistent with your agenda items.
You missed the point, not surprising.
I thought Matt got all the recruits, now you say it's Mullin?
No, I get the point... although you try hard to be cryptic with your posts, they are actually quite clear. Maybe its you that doesn't understand.
Matt acts like he does because Mullin allows it, Slice is MIA because Mullin allows it, Matt recruits Livingston because Mullin allows it, St. Jean acts like the coach on the sidelines because Mullin allows it.
If this disharmony was happening under Lavin, you would hold his ass to the fire for allowing such tomfoolery . But alas your vendetta is not against Mullin but some mid-twenties assistant. I have an idea, how about you and everyone else starts to question Mullin for allowing all of this (if there is any of this) to fester?
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If this disharmony was happening under Lavin, you would hold his ass to the fire for allowing such tomfoolery . But alas your vendetta is not against Mullin but some mid-twenties assistant. I have an idea, how about you and everyone else starts to question Mullin for allowing all of this (if there is any of this) to fester?
We have a BB legend as head coach, the best recruiter in the game as associate, two prodigies as assistants, and two outstanding recruiting classes in a row. Only at SJU would this be described as festering and only at SJU would it be cause for discontent. This is the most delusional fan base in college BB outside of Westwood. At least they have a past to be delusional about.
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http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/connection-to-texas-school-may-force-another-nba-prospect-to-skip-college/
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Guess Mullin and Matt were right to pass on this one….
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Guess Mullin and Matt were right to pass on this one….
Ya I guess they passed on a lot of top 50 guys
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Don't understand the comment. Clearly, they wouldn't pass on any top 50 kid who they thought might be interested in the school and had a chance at being eligible (e.g., Alkins). Dave and others said that Ferguson had no chance of being eligible, which is why he apparently is going overseas. So, yes, I do think it was smart Mullin & Co. passed on the kid. You disagree? Has nothing to do with who recruited him.
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Don't understand the comment. Clearly, they wouldn't pass on any top 50 kid who they thought might be interested in the school and had a chance at being eligible (e.g., Alkins). Dave and others said that Ferguson had no chance of being eligible, which is why he apparently is going overseas. So, yes, I do think it was smart Mullin & Co. passed on the kid. You disagree? Has nothing to do with who recruited him.
You really think they had the opportunity to pass...
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PMG - I have no clue. Baldi, Dave and others implied that we had a legit shot at Ferguson, but that the staff chose to back off because his transcript and grades were such that he was not going to be eligible (which is apparently the case).
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If this disharmony was happening under Lavin, you would hold his ass to the fire for allowing such tomfoolery . But alas your vendetta is not against Mullin but some mid-twenties assistant. I have an idea, how about you and everyone else starts to question Mullin for allowing all of this (if there is any of this) to fester?
We have a BB legend as head coach, the best recruiter in the game as associate, two prodigies as assistants, and two outstanding recruiting classes in a row. Only at SJU would this be described as festering and only at SJU would it be cause for discontent. This is the most delusional fan base in college BB outside of Westwood. At least they have a past to be delusional about.
The best recruiter in the game as associate is out. Let the festering begin.
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If this disharmony was happening under Lavin, you would hold his ass to the fire for allowing such tomfoolery . But alas your vendetta is not against Mullin but some mid-twenties assistant. I have an idea, how about you and everyone else starts to question Mullin for allowing all of this (if there is any of this) to fester?
We have a BB legend as head coach, the best recruiter in the game as associate, two prodigies as assistants, and two outstanding recruiting classes in a row. Only at SJU would this be described as festering and only at SJU would it be cause for discontent. This is the most delusional fan base in college BB outside of Westwood. At least they have a past to be delusional about.
The best recruiter in the game as associate is out. Let the festering begin.
Actually if he's out the festering is over and Mullin should be congratulated for excising it.
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Olgun Uluc – Verified account @OlgunUluc
It's official. Terrance Ferguson has chosen not to attend the University of Arizona. He'll join the Adelaide 36ers in Australia's NBL
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Olgun Uluc – Verified account @OlgunUluc
It's official. Terrance Ferguson has chosen not to attend the University of Arizona. He'll join the Adelaide 36ers in Australia's NBL
Dunlap's old team.
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Sounds like he would've been ineligible to play in college this year.
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Australia sounds like it will be a great experience for him + he gets to instantly create a better life for his family. And, he doesn't have to go to college in a dust bin filled with white trash. It's a win win.
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Australia sounds like it will be a great experience for him + he gets to instantly create a better life for his family. And, he doesn't have to go to college in a dust bin filled with white trash. It's a win win.
You clearly have no clue how hot the girls are there. But nowhere is worth living besides NYC to you so you're hopeless.
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Australia sounds like it will be a great experience for him + he gets to instantly create a better life for his family. And, he doesn't have to go to college in a dust bin filled with white trash. It's a win win.
You clearly have no clue how hot the girls are there. But nowhere is worth living besides NYC to you so you're hopeless.
Yea, NY has nothing on Tuscon. Lol. Who's clueless?
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Australia sounds like it will be a great experience for him + he gets to instantly create a better life for his family. And, he doesn't have to go to college in a dust bin filled with white trash. It's a win win.
You clearly have no clue how hot the girls are there. But nowhere is worth living besides NYC to you so you're hopeless.
Yea, NY has nothing on Tuscon. Lol. Who's clueless?
That's a ignorant statement Poison. You cant even compare the girls that attend Arizona or Arizona St. to SJU. Speaking strictly on college life, which I think is only fair to do for a 18/19 year old kid. He's not poppin bubbly with models in Tribeca.