6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: johnniered on April 28, 2015, 02:25:14 PM
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Sterling Gibbs is leaving Seton Hall and is eligible to play immediately.
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Sterling Gibbs is leaving Seton Hall and is eligible to play immediately.
Even better I would assume this eliminates Seton Hall for the younger Gibbs also.
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Ouch... Huge loss. Some think he will be Notre Dame bound on the Hall board.
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Sterling Gibbs is leaving Seton Hall and is eligible to play immediately.
Even better I would assume this eliminates Seton Hall for the younger Gibbs also.
That has been so for a while.
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Great kid. Wish him the best of luck. I know some here said he was coming back to the Hall, but I'm not shocked. He will be a fantastic addition next year to virtually any team in the country.
Willard created this mess by selling his soul. Now he has to live with it.
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I think Pitt a likely destination
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He will go where ever he wants... any teams with a remote need at point guard will be lined up for him.
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The hall shoulda fired Willard after this season.
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Yeah . Would if had a shot at Hurley. Maybe they should fire him now and maybe get the other Hurley. If it is true what was posted about Tiny dangling Whothead for another job next year is a busy anyway.
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Always liked Gibbs--wish him the best wherever he goes. SH fans can thank Whitehead and Tiny for this fiasco.
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If you count the original school he signed with but never enrolled at because Gary Williams retired this will be his 4th school since 2011: Maryland, Texas, SHU and ?
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Yeah . Would if had a shot at Hurley. Maybe they should fire him now and maybe get the other Hurley. If it is true what was posted about Tiny dangling Whothead for another job next year is a busy anyway.
I don't understand this post. "Is a busy anyway?" It's not as bad as it could have been for them, because Carrington is going to be very good next year, but I really liked Gibbs. Normally, I would lament the demise of a fellow Big East team, but not Willards' team. He's a cheater although you can't prove it. And he did sell his soul to get Whitehead from us. PRJohnny is right. That caused trouble for them chemistry wise. And Whitehead also now has the goods on the staff and could blow the whistle. So Willard can't discipline IW like the other players because of this. He sold his soul. But Willard only needs nine Big East wins to keep his job because he is tight with his boss.
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Willard is a dead man walking, I'm really surprised that he's made it this long. I'll never forget the hogwash he pulled last Fall. His roster turnover ratio and growing transfer list is comical.
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I know lav got fired. but this was one of the reasons why he said hell no to tiny
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Danny Hurley waiting the wings!
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Normally Fordham that number of schools is a major red flag. Don't believe that is the case with Gibbs though, as there are exigent circumstances. I didn't know he committed to Maryland, but if he changed when Williams left that is totally understandable. As is going far away to Texas and realizing one doesn't want to be that far. And we know the circumstances (at least in part) that resulted in him leaving the Hall. Everything I've ever read about Sterling is that he is a great kid.
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+1 KOB. And good to have you posting again.
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Like I said earlier. I think we need to look at Dave Boff for a staff position
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Normally Fordham that number of schools is a major red flag. Don't believe that is the case with Gibbs though, as there are exigent circumstances. I didn't know he committed to Maryland, but if he changed when Williams left that is totally understandable. As is going far away to Texas and realizing one doesn't want to be that far. And we know the circumstances (at least in part) that resulted in him leaving the Hall. Everything I've ever read about Sterling is that he is a great kid.
I wasn't making a character judgement just saying that is a lot of schools in a short period of time.
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I know lav got fired. but this was one of the reasons why he said hell no to tiny
100%. Lavin knew what he was doing wrt to Tiny.
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Baldi why you so high on him
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Like I said earlier. I think we need to look at Dave Boff for a staff position
Get him on DOBO now and you can still get Reid. But are you just pulling this thing with him out of nowhere?
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Yeah . Would if had a shot at Hurley. Maybe they should fire him now and maybe get the other Hurley. If it is true what was posted about Tiny dangling Whothead for another job next year is a busy anyway.
I don't understand this post. "Is a busy anyway?" It's not as bad as it could have been for them, because Carrington is going to be very good next year, but I really liked Gibbs. Normally, I would lament the demise of a fellow Big East team, but not Willards' team. He's a cheater although you can't prove it. And he did sell his soul to get Whitehead from us. PRJohnny is right. That caused trouble for them chemistry wise. And Whitehead also now has the goods on the staff and could blow the whistle. So Willard can't discipline IW like the other players because of this. He sold his soul. But Willard only needs nine Big East wins to keep his job because he is tight with his boss.
Sorry posted before looking at it. I was saying if Whitehead is looking to leave also(someone said earlier that Morton is looking to find another job) that they might as well fire him now because next year may be tough for them and the next year will be worse on this course. They should of fired Willard when Bobby Hurley was out there but maybe they can bring in Danny.
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Yeah . Would if had a shot at Hurley. Maybe they should fire him now and maybe get the other Hurley. If it is true what was posted about Tiny dangling Whothead for another job next year is a busy anyway.
I don't understand this post. "Is a busy anyway?" It's not as bad as it could have been for them, because Carrington is going to be very good next year, but I really liked Gibbs. Normally, I would lament the demise of a fellow Big East team, but not Willards' team. He's a cheater although you can't prove it. And he did sell his soul to get Whitehead from us. PRJohnny is right. That caused trouble for them chemistry wise. And Whitehead also now has the goods on the staff and could blow the whistle. So Willard can't discipline IW like the other players because of this. He sold his soul. But Willard only needs nine Big East wins to keep his job because he is tight with his boss.
Sorry posted before looking at it. I was saying if Whitehead is looking to leave also(someone said earlier that Morton is looking to find another job) that they might as well fire him now because next year may be tough for them and the next year will be worse on this course. They should of fired Willard when Bobby Hurley was out there but maybe they can bring in Danny.
You think the hall would target Bobby over Danny?
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No, but he actually left Buffalo so if they acted quickly they had a shot at him. Not sure Danny Hurley would leave RI for Seton Hall.
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Hiring another Pitino disciple like Undergrad Mass would just repeat the same process for Hall, so you can dismay that route whenever the inevitable happens in South Orange IMO. I actually think that Veer Singh is going to be a steal, potentially a very serviceable and likable player across the river for the next 4 years. They still might have a scrappy, local team next year, but they would've been that much more dangerous with a senior captain like Gibbs complimenting the ever growing BK Khadeen-Isaiah-Desi tandem. Delgado will be that much better next year too, but he's pretty much their only returning big.
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Hiring another Pitino disciple like Undergrad Mass would just repeat the same process for Hall, so you can dismay that route whenever the inevitable happens in South Orange IMO. I actually think that Veer Singh is going to be a steal, potentially a very serviceable and likable player across the river for the next 4 years. They still might have a scrappy, local team next year, but they would've been that much more dangerous with a senior captain like Gibbs complimenting the ever growing BK Khadeen-Isaiah-Desi tandem. Delgado will be that much better next year too, but he's pretty much their only returning big.
The problem is they aren't going to pay their coach a big salary so who can they get that's better
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The way 2015-16 rosters are configured as of this minute, Iona might have next year's most talented team in the tri state. They're 2 deep at every position with the reigning MVP/ROY returning, and an absolute stud in Rickie McGill to compliment Schadrac next year. Obviously with our 4 prospective incoming recruits TBA within the next 2-3 months that'll change things...but if Iona were to matchup with Hall right now, I'd take Iona.
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Sina and Gibbs transferring = lack of control of the program and team. Willard does not have the team thinking as one or else things don't go down this way. They were team players. I could see if they weren't buying in to Willard's system.
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Sina and Gibbs transferring = lack of control of the program and team. Willard does not have the team thinking as one or else things don't go down this way. They were team players. I could see if they weren't buying in to Willard's system.
Despite a talented roster (still) The Hall will have a hard time going 8-10 in the Big East and more than a few games over 500 overall depending on their OOC schedule.
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Sina and Gibbs transferring = lack of control of the program and team. Willard does not have the team thinking as one or else things don't go down this way. They were team players. I could see if they weren't buying in to Willard's system.
Despite a talented roster (still) The Hall will have a hard time going 8-10 in the Big East and more than a few games over 500 overall depending on their OOC schedule.
Agreed. I just don't see it. At the first sign of difficulty in conference, I see the discord rearing it's ugly head again. I'll be surprised if they exceed what you project.
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UConn it is
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Sina and Gibbs transferring = lack of control of the program and team. Willard does not have the team thinking as one or else things don't go down this way. They were team players. I could see if they weren't buying in to Willard's system.
Despite a talented roster (still) The Hall will have a hard time going 8-10 in the Big East and more than a few games over 500 overall depending on their OOC schedule.
Agreed. I just don't see it. At the first sign of difficulty in conference, I see the discord rearing it's ugly head again. I'll be surprised if they exceed what you project.
Really? I'm not sure. One paper (at this moment) they have a lot more talent on their roster compared to us.
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Sina and Gibbs transferring = lack of control of the program and team. Willard does not have the team thinking as one or else things don't go down this way. They were team players. I could see if they weren't buying in to Willard's system.
Despite a talented roster (still) The Hall will have a hard time going 8-10 in the Big East and more than a few games over 500 overall depending on their OOC schedule.
I think they will win 20 next year and be in the NCAA Tournament.
That said, Willard still might get canned.
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Sina and Gibbs transferring = lack of control of the program and team. Willard does not have the team thinking as one or else things don't go down this way. They were team players. I could see if they weren't buying in to Willard's system.
Despite a talented roster (still) The Hall will have a hard time going 8-10 in the Big East and more than a few games over 500 overall depending on their OOC schedule.
I think they will win 20 next year and be in the NCAA Tournament.
That said, Willard still might get canned.
In Queens we know 21 and the NCAAs does not guarantee a coach longevity. They will probably lose Delgado and Whitehead after next season
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Sina and Gibbs transferring = lack of control of the program and team. Willard does not have the team thinking as one or else things don't go down this way. They were team players. I could see if they weren't buying in to Willard's system.
Despite a talented roster (still) The Hall will have a hard time going 8-10 in the Big East and more than a few games over 500 overall depending on their OOC schedule.
I think they will win 20 next year and be in the NCAA Tournament.
That said, Willard still might get canned.
PMG, you may be 100% right. They still have a roster that is very talented especially if they add a little more size but Willard just doesn't thrill me
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Sina and Gibbs transferring = lack of control of the program and team. Willard does not have the team thinking as one or else things don't go down this way. They were team players. I could see if they weren't buying in to Willard's system.
Despite a talented roster (still) The Hall will have a hard time going 8-10 in the Big East and more than a few games over 500 overall depending on their OOC schedule.
I think they will win 20 next year and be in the NCAA Tournament.
That said, Willard still might get canned.
They've got a ton of talent. Desi Rodriguez will be really good. Carrington as well. Angel Delgado is already really good and would destroy the MAAC. Whitehead has nobody left to fight with.
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I think Willard is a good game coach. Very tough to win at seton hall. He should have waited for a different job. Don't think he ever gets a big time chance again .
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I think Willard is a good game coach. Very tough to win at seton hall. He should have waited for a different job. Don't think he ever gets a big time chance again .
Different job? He wasn't exactly amazingly successful at Iona. Cluess has done way better than Willard and he hasn't been in serious consideration for other jobs
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I think Willard is a good game coach. Very tough to win at seton hall. He should have waited for a different job. Don't think he ever gets a big time chance again .
This current group can win if Whitehead has grown up. Desi is going to be a menace...Pointer senior year type stuff. Willard just has to make a few savvy additions and these guys could compete for an Elite Eight in two years if everyone stays.
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I agree with Marillac on this one, don't sleep on the Hall next season, I expect them to be nasty if they can add just a little more size for dpeth.
Whitehead is the likely player of the year in the Big East. I expect him to really shine as a soph.
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I agree with Marillac on this one, don't sleep on the Hall next season, I expect them to be nasty if they can add just a little more size for dpeth.
Whitehead is the likely player of the year in the Big East. I expect him to really shine as a soph.
POY will be a guards race. Can Whitehead jump Archie, Dunn, Smith-Riveria, Sheed, Garrett JR? Dont think so
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I agree with Marillac on this one, don't sleep on the Hall next season, I expect them to be nasty if they can add just a little more size for dpeth.
Whitehead is the likely player of the year in the Big East. I expect him to really shine as a soph.
I think they implode again. Whitehead went to seton hall to go to the NBA not win. Could they be good yes. Will they- don't think so.
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I agree with Marillac on this one, don't sleep on the Hall next season, I expect them to be nasty if they can add just a little more size for dpeth.
Whitehead is the likely player of the year in the Big East. I expect him to really shine as a soph.
I think they implode again. Whitehead went to seton hall to go to the NBA not win. Could they be good yes. Will they- don't think so.
There are no players left to question Whitehead. Moblie (sp?), Sina and Gibbs are gone.
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I agree with Marillac on this one, don't sleep on the Hall next season, I expect them to be nasty if they can add just a little more size for dpeth.
Whitehead is the likely player of the year in the Big East. I expect him to really shine as a soph.
I think they implode again. Whitehead went to seton hall to go to the NBA not win. Could they be good yes. Will they- don't think so.
There are no players left to question Whitehead. Moblie (sp?), Sina and Gibbs are gone.
Bombs Away!!!!! I'm in the minority, but I see better numbers at the expense of the team. I'll be surprised if they win more than 18 games.
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UConn it is
Yes sir
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UConn it is
Yes sir
sorry you did not get him at Iona and he won the 2016 Haggerty next year to show up SH and Willard
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UConn it is
Yes sir
sorry you did not get him at Iona and he won the 2016 Haggerty next year to show up SH and Willard
I think the Haggerty is only given to tri-state area guys.
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I agree with Marillac on this one, don't sleep on the Hall next season, I expect them to be nasty if they can add just a little more size for dpeth.
Whitehead is the likely player of the year in the Big East. I expect him to really shine as a soph.
POY will be a guards race. Can Whitehead jump Archie, Dunn, Smith-Riveria, Sheed, Garrett JR? Dont think so
That award is Dunns to lose Mase. It was a travesty that Archie was even first team, let alone co poy. Good player don't get me wrong, but he was second or third team all be in my eyes.
I think Dunn, smith Rivera, and whitehead are a step above the rest of the guards in the league.
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Who does the Hall have at PG now?
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I agree with Marillac on this one, don't sleep on the Hall next season, I expect them to be nasty if they can add just a little more size for dpeth.
Whitehead is the likely player of the year in the Big East. I expect him to really shine as a soph.
POY will be a guards race. Can Whitehead jump Archie, Dunn, Smith-Riveria, Sheed, Garrett JR? Dont think so
That award is Dunns to lose Mase. It was a travesty that Archie was even first team, let alone co poy. Good player don't get me wrong, but he was second or third team all be in my eyes.
I think Dunn, smith Rivera, and whitehead are a step above the rest of the guards in the league.
Yea I agree with dunn and have said before he is tops. But I dont really get why your so defiant about Whitehead being clearly more talented than rysheed. I dont see it. Think he was able to bully kids in HS. Will have a good season but if given the choice for us next year I would take Rysheed without blinking.
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Who does the Hall have at PG now?
Its the Brooklyn boys
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Who does the Hall have at PG now?
Its the Brooklyn boys
Neither one is a PG. I can only count 4 actual BE quality rotation players on their roster at this point
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Who does the Hall have at PG now?
Its the Brooklyn boys
Neither one is a PG.
doesnt matter. Both will get 30 minutes.