6th Man of St. John's Basketball

St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: redmenfan on April 03, 2017, 02:26:11 PM

Title: Ewing
Post by: redmenfan on April 03, 2017, 02:26:11 PM
Per Casual Hoya Georgetown has Hired Ewing as coach, Will be interesting battles with Mullin
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Dan on April 03, 2017, 06:08:17 PM
Mullin/Ewing will be fun
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: braintrust on April 03, 2017, 06:36:15 PM
Mullin/Ewing will be fun
Be even more fun if Chris has assistants, and players, that can help with defense.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: mjdinkins on April 03, 2017, 06:42:35 PM
Mullin/Ewing will be fun

If we're competing for something or both teams are competing for something, then it does have the potential to be fun.  Otherwise, if we're not competing for anything or both of us are the dregs of the conference, then there's nothing fun about it.  Of course, I always thoroughly enjoy beating the Hoyas, but competing and winning overall is fun.

I'm old enough to recall many of our games versus those Ewing/Georgetown teams.  It's cool to relive and talk about many of those games every now and again, but the 80's are long gone.  It's time to have to something to talk about going forward.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: ras on April 03, 2017, 06:51:51 PM
Mullin/Ewing will be fun

If we're competing for something or both teams are competing for something, then it does have the potential to be fun.  Otherwise, if we're not competing for anything or both of us are the dregs of the conference, then there's nothing fun about it.  Of course, I always thoroughly enjoy beating the Hoyas, but competing and winning overall is fun.

I'm old enough to recall many of our games versus those Ewing/Georgetown teams.  It's cool to relive and talk about many of those games every now and again, but the 80's are long gone.  It's time to have to something to talk about going forward.
I agree. I would like both programs to be perineal top 25, so the rivalry really means something, instead of who will finish 8 th in the conference.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: mjdinkins on April 03, 2017, 06:59:13 PM
Mullin/Ewing will be fun

If we're competing for something or both teams are competing for something, then it does have the potential to be fun.  Otherwise, if we're not competing for anything or both of us are the dregs of the conference, then there's nothing fun about it.  Of course, I always thoroughly enjoy beating the Hoyas, but competing and winning overall is fun.

I'm old enough to recall many of our games versus those Ewing/Georgetown teams.  It's cool to relive and talk about many of those games every now and again, but the 80's are long gone.  It's time to have to something to talk about going forward.
I agree. I would like both programs to be perineal top 25, so the rivalry really means something, instead of who will finish 8 th in the conference.

Yes, if we're both perennial top 25 teams, then it would make it fun.  It'll add some spice and intrigue to our games.  Frankly, I don't care if they stink it up for years on end and we're the perennial top 25 team.  That's still fun for me.  Haha!
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: NYCoffey on April 03, 2017, 07:01:15 PM
At least the Refs will give us some calls against Gtown next year. Mullin isn't the junior coach in the BE anymore. They will suck like Mullin's first year but I'm sure he will bring a recruiter with him. Hope it goes well.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: fordham96 on April 03, 2017, 07:17:16 PM
Bottom line is nostalgia or not no one will care about either if they don't win.

The thinking is similar,  since both are inextricably linked to both programs and care deeply about the future of each program both will do everything humanly possible to succeed and neither has an eye somewhere else.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: ras on April 03, 2017, 07:36:54 PM
Mullin/Ewing will be fun


If we're competing for something or both teams are competing for something, then it does have the potential to be fun.  Otherwise, if we're not competing for anything or both of us are the dregs of the conference, then there's nothing fun about it.  Of course, I always thoroughly enjoy beating the Hoyas, but competing and winning overall is fun.

I'm old enough to recall many of our games versus those Ewing/Georgetown teams.  It's cool to relive and talk about many of those games every now and again, but the 80's are long gone.  It's time to have to something to talk about going forward.
I agree. I would like both programs to be perineal top 25, so the rivalry really means something, instead of who will finish 8 th in the conference.

Yes, if we're both perennial top 25 teams, then it would make it fun.  It'll add some spice and intrigue to our games.  Frankly, I don't care if they stink it up for years on end and we're the perennial top 25 team.  That's still fun for me.  Haha!
Can't argue w your logic.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Foad on April 03, 2017, 08:02:32 PM
I would like both programs to be perineal

Taint happening.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 03, 2017, 08:36:21 PM
This is great.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: QuanMan on April 03, 2017, 09:01:36 PM
Bottom line is nostalgia or not no one will care about either if they don't win.

The thinking is similar,  since both are inextricably linked to both programs and care deeply about the future of each program both will do everything humanly possible to succeed and neither has an eye somewhere else.

Agreed Fordham. The Ewing hire has indirectly amplified the pressure on Mullin to dismiss this 'failure to rebuild the nostalgia of the BE' storyline. We as fans will reap the benefits bc Mullin is a fierce competitor and will stop at nothing to silence the critics. The infamous Jeff Goodman, Bill Simmons, and local writer Josh Newman all mocked the Big East nostalgia theme on Twitter today. The knocks will continue until both programs get back to a elite level. I'm rooting for Ewing and look forward to the Garden sellouts w he and Mullin patrolling the sidelines in the years to come.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2017, 09:52:04 AM
Unfortunately I think what it will be is a nice distraction for ST John's and Georgetown fans. Makes sense if if both programs continue to stink there won't be as much anger at the program that there normally would be.

I do think we will be tourney contenders for the next couple years but beyond that I question if this transfer route will be able to sustain any long term success.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Poison on April 04, 2017, 09:59:05 AM
who does Ewing have? Govan? Who else?
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: rlogazino on April 04, 2017, 11:01:51 AM
who does Ewing have? Govan? Who else?

Mosley and Derrickson. Who knows if they leave or not though.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: mjdinkins on April 04, 2017, 11:31:18 AM
I question if this transfer route will be able to sustain any long term success.

I recently told a fellow fan the same thing. 
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: paultzman on April 04, 2017, 11:41:40 AM
I question if this transfer route will be able to sustain any long term success.

I recently told a fellow fan the same thing. 

Agree & 18 class results will be telling.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Marco Baldi on April 04, 2017, 11:48:31 AM
who does Ewing have? Govan? Who else?

Mosley and Derrickson. Who knows if they leave or not though.


Ewing might  actually save Govans career. So soft
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: QuanMan on April 04, 2017, 12:34:21 PM
Bottom line is nostalgia or not no one will care about either if they don't win.

The thinking is similar,  since both are inextricably linked to both programs and care deeply about the future of each program both will do everything humanly possible to succeed and neither has an eye somewhere else.

Agreed Fordham. The Ewing hire has indirectly amplified the pressure on Mullin to dismiss this 'failure to rebuild the nostalgia of the BE' storyline. We as fans will reap the benefits bc Mullin is a fierce competitor and will stop at nothing to silence the critics. The infamous Jeff Goodman, Bill Simmons, and local writer Josh Newman all mocked the Big East nostalgia theme on Twitter today. The knocks will continue until both programs get back to a elite level. I'm rooting for Ewing and look forward to the Garden sellouts w he and Mullin patrolling the sidelines in the years to come.

Another example of the indirect pressure that has been amplified on Mullin with this hire-

Adam Wexler‏
@awexlerKPRC

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Max Kellerman on Patrick Ewing to Georgetown,"How'd that workout when St. John's went to Chris Mullin or when Drexler went to Houston." geez
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2017, 01:09:50 PM
Bottom line is nostalgia or not no one will care about either if they don't win.

The thinking is similar,  since both are inextricably linked to both programs and care deeply about the future of each program both will do everything humanly possible to succeed and neither has an eye somewhere else.

Agreed Fordham. The Ewing hire has indirectly amplified the pressure on Mullin to dismiss this 'failure to rebuild the nostalgia of the BE' storyline. We as fans will reap the benefits bc Mullin is a fierce competitor and will stop at nothing to silence the critics. The infamous Jeff Goodman, Bill Simmons, and local writer Josh Newman all mocked the Big East nostalgia theme on Twitter today. The knocks will continue until both programs get back to a elite level. I'm rooting for Ewing and look forward to the Garden sellouts w he and Mullin patrolling the sidelines in the years to come.

Another example of the indirect pressure that has been amplified on Mullin with this hire-

Adam Wexler‏
@awexlerKPRC

 Follow
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Max Kellerman on Patrick Ewing to Georgetown,"How'd that workout when St. John's went to Chris Mullin or when Drexler went to Houston." geez

Just on records pretty close
Drexler-19-39 (327)
Mullin22-43 (338)
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: JohnnyJungle on April 04, 2017, 01:15:09 PM
I question if this transfer route will be able to sustain any long term success.

I recently told a fellow fan the same thing. 

I think it's a way to accelerate more balance and consistency in high school recruiting. We're probably leaning on it more heavily due to roster turnover and imbalance that dates back to Norm.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Moose on April 04, 2017, 02:14:16 PM
Bottom line is nostalgia or not no one will care about either if they don't win.

The thinking is similar,  since both are inextricably linked to both programs and care deeply about the future of each program both will do everything humanly possible to succeed and neither has an eye somewhere else.

Agreed Fordham. The Ewing hire has indirectly amplified the pressure on Mullin to dismiss this 'failure to rebuild the nostalgia of the BE' storyline. We as fans will reap the benefits bc Mullin is a fierce competitor and will stop at nothing to silence the critics. The infamous Jeff Goodman, Bill Simmons, and local writer Josh Newman all mocked the Big East nostalgia theme on Twitter today. The knocks will continue until both programs get back to a elite level. I'm rooting for Ewing and look forward to the Garden sellouts w he and Mullin patrolling the sidelines in the years to come.

Another example of the indirect pressure that has been amplified on Mullin with this hire-

Adam Wexler‏
@awexlerKPRC

 Follow
 More
Max Kellerman on Patrick Ewing to Georgetown,"How'd that workout when St. John's went to Chris Mullin or when Drexler went to Houston." geez

Just on records pretty close
Drexler-19-39 (327)
Mullin22-43 (338)

Stop.  You cannot criticize Chris Mullin.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: we are sju on April 04, 2017, 02:42:27 PM
Bottom line is nostalgia or not no one will care about either if they don't win.

The thinking is similar,  since both are inextricably linked to both programs and care deeply about the future of each program both will do everything humanly possible to succeed and neither has an eye somewhere else.

Agreed Fordham. The Ewing hire has indirectly amplified the pressure on Mullin to dismiss this 'failure to rebuild the nostalgia of the BE' storyline. We as fans will reap the benefits bc Mullin is a fierce competitor and will stop at nothing to silence the critics. The infamous Jeff Goodman, Bill Simmons, and local writer Josh Newman all mocked the Big East nostalgia theme on Twitter today. The knocks will continue until both programs get back to a elite level. I'm rooting for Ewing and look forward to the Garden sellouts w he and Mullin patrolling the sidelines in the years to come.

Another example of the indirect pressure that has been amplified on Mullin with this hire-

Adam Wexler‏
@awexlerKPRC

 Follow
 More
Max Kellerman on Patrick Ewing to Georgetown,"How'd that workout when St. John's went to Chris Mullin or when Drexler went to Houston." geez

Just on records pretty close
Drexler-19-39 (327)
Mullin22-43 (338)

Stop.  You cannot criticize Chris Mullin.

I am not and I really haven't but I understand why I haven't. Only a crazy person would think we haven't hit a speed bump or 20 here.
Really only Chris Mullin or Walter Berry would be afforded this blind allegiance or just complacency by me.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: carmineabbatiello on April 05, 2017, 01:00:05 AM
Congrats Patrick!

Hated him on the Hoyas - loved him on the Knicks.

Chris no longer the least experienced coach in the league.

Oakley and Starks asst. coach candidates.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Marillac on April 05, 2017, 06:08:53 AM
I question if this transfer route will be able to sustain any long term success.

I recently told a fellow fan the same thing. 

Gonzaga started three transfers. As with all recruiting, it comes down to finding the right players. A good mix of young transfers and grad transfers seems to help as well.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: tnice on April 05, 2017, 09:47:26 AM
Congrats Patrick!

Hated him on the Hoyas - loved him on the Knicks.

Chris no longer the least experienced coach in the league.

Oakley and Starks asst. coach candidates.

Patrick Ewing has been an NBA assistant coach for 13 years. Pretty sure coach Mullin is still the least experienced coach in the league.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: redslope on April 06, 2017, 12:10:16 PM
Georgetown has more ethics than White House.  Asst. Coach Ewing JR. will be let go as they have a nepotism clause.  Seems crazy with an AC position but.......
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Wods317 on April 06, 2017, 12:33:01 PM
Georgetown has more ethics than White House.  Asst. Coach Ewing JR. will be let go as they have a nepotism clause.  Seems crazy with an AC position but.......

Heard that this morning. I get the reason for the clause but the kid is already on the staff so I don't get why they can't make an exception here.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Moose on April 06, 2017, 12:54:53 PM
Georgetown has more ethics than White House.  Asst. Coach Ewing JR. will be let go as they have a nepotism clause.  Seems crazy with an AC position but.......

If only SJU had that in the late 90's
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: carmineabbatiello on April 06, 2017, 02:23:26 PM
Congrats Patrick!

Hated him on the Hoyas - loved him on the Knicks.

Chris no longer the least experienced coach in the league.

Oakley and Starks asst. coach candidates.

Patrick Ewing has been an NBA assistant coach for 13 years. Pretty sure coach Mullin is still the least experienced coach in the league.

Oh no.  I'm wrong again?
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Celtics11 on April 06, 2017, 02:43:43 PM
Congrats Patrick!

Hated him on the Hoyas - loved him on the Knicks.

Chris no longer the least experienced coach in the league.

Oakley and Starks asst. coach candidates.

Patrick Ewing has been an NBA assistant coach for 13 years. Pretty sure coach Mullin is still the least experienced coach in the league.

Oh no.  I'm wrong again?
Do you really even have to ask?  ;) :)
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: fordham96 on April 06, 2017, 10:20:45 PM
Waters was finally granted his release:

https://twitter.com/Tremonth2o/status/850143243740356608
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Poison on April 06, 2017, 11:31:05 PM
Georgetown has more ethics than White House.  Asst. Coach Ewing JR. will be let go as they have a nepotism clause.  Seems crazy with an AC position but.......

If only SJU had that in the late 90's

That would have changed nothing.
Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: nudginator59 on April 08, 2017, 01:39:40 PM
It would awesome to creat an alumni game once a year before a SJU/GT game, where the game alternates between GT and NYC every year....Or just have it at MSG. SJU he not been the best at embracing their former players, and have two legendary players now coaches back in the league is a great opportunity to make that reconnection.  Have the student managers be the coaches for the game, with the old timers as asst coaches.


Title: Re: Ewing
Post by: Celtics11 on April 08, 2017, 04:18:42 PM
Wanted to suggest not having any more posts on this thread to leave it at 33 but dang if I'm not the one to ruin the idea.  :knuppel2: