6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: JohnnyJungle on March 24, 2020, 02:14:02 PM
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Wanted to check in with everyone to see how every one is doing both physically and mentally. Say what's up if you haven't posted in a while. Drop a good movie to watch, book to read, or game to play.
Here for all of you guys and hope everyone is staying safe
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A bigger fan of baseball than basketball, I’m slowly going back through the Ken Burns series, which produces, of course, a cheap imitation of the pleasure I get from the actual game.
Other than that I’ve kept sane by turning dirt, sowing seeds and reading great literature about rich people that do nothing, Ford Maddox Ford and Henry James.
Happy to have JJ to check in with, too.
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Wanted to check in with everyone to see how every one is doing both physically and mentally. Say what's up if you haven't posted in a while. Drop a good movie to watch, book to read, or game to play.
Here for all of you guys and hope everyone is staying safe
Doing well. Thank you. How are you Dave?
I recommend The Other Dream Team - documentary about the Lithuanian basketball team. It’s great.
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Not a book or movie but I watched the Duke-Kentucky "greatest game ever" from '92 on CBS over the weekend and still hate Christian Laettner.
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Wanted to check in with everyone to see how every one is doing both physically and mentally. Say what's up if you haven't posted in a while. Drop a good movie to watch, book to read, or game to play.
Here for all of you guys and hope everyone is staying safe
Doing well upstate. I've been self quarantining since 1992 and haven't touched a doorknob or used a public toilet since before that so the threat of contagion is low. I have a couple of cases of vodka in the basement, a full humidor and a trunkful of ammo. Currently sitting on the porch in camos with a 12 gauge and my great grandfather's trench knife hoping for looters. On the other hand am wondering whether divorce attorneys are considered essential personnel, because Mrs. Fun isn't and so has been working from home for two weeks now.
To my liberal friends I admit I made a mistake not voting for Hillary, if she'd been elected the virus would have committed suicide a week ago.
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Doing well upstate. I've been self quarantining since 1992 and haven't touched a doorknob or used a public toilet since before that so the threat of contagion is low. I have a couple of cases of vodka in the basement, a full humidor and a trunkful of ammo. Currently sitting on the porch in camos with a 12 gauge and my great grandfather's trench knife hoping for looters. On the other hand am wondering whether divorce attorneys are considered essential personnel, because Mrs. Fun isn't and so has been working from home for two weeks now.
To my liberal friends I admit I made a mistake not voting for Hillary, if she'd been elected the virus would have committed suicide a week ago.
Stay safe and well old man....Need your crazy and delusional posts to keep me on my toes for years to come LOL....all kidding aside...stay safe...
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We went to 12 hour shifts, 7 days on 7 off. Currently on my week off, last week in the city was like I Am Legend. I miss the tournament and bars. Not people lol. All good in the Baldi world so far
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Anyone who isn’t doing well mentally because of two weeks of quasi-isolation needs to take a long look in the mirror.
This is nothing but media driven hysteria and will be looked back on as a joke.
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We went to 12 hour shifts, 7 days on 7 off.
I didn't know the Bunny Ranch had such strict hours. You must be sore.
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FS1 is showing the 2018 Duke game.
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Anyone who isn’t doing well mentally because of two weeks of quasi-isolation needs to take a long look in the mirror.
This is nothing but media driven hysteria and will be looked back on as a joke.
Whether or not it’s media driven (it isn’t) in no way will it be looked at as a joke. Something like 6k people have died in Italy in a month. The worldwide economy has been decimated.
People react differently to all sorts of different things. I have a number of capable friends that had stable jobs and bright futures that have been laid off. How will they react? How will businesses react when things turn around? For whatever reason you aren’t buying this but maybe for once show some compassion.
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Anyone who isn’t doing well mentally because of two weeks of quasi-isolation needs to take a long look in the mirror.
This is nothing but media driven hysteria and will be looked back on as a joke.
Right as usual.
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Whether or not it’s media driven (it isn’t) in no way will it be looked at as a joke. Something like 6k people have died in Italy in a month. The worldwide economy has been decimated.
People react differently to all sorts of different things. I have a number of capable friends that had stable jobs and bright futures that have been laid off. How will they react? How will businesses react when things turn around? For whatever reason you aren’t buying this but maybe for once show some compassion.
I have compassion for those who are being laid off due to this media-driven frenzy. Look at the stats for past pandemics. Over 1 billion people were infected with swine flu with 500,000 deaths. What did we do? I honestly don't even remember it. You bet your arse it would be different if that came around now with how social media has evolved and how nasty, sensational, and partisan the media has become.
The economic casualties will far outweigh the actual physical impact this virus will have.
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FS1 is showing the 2018 Duke game.
I watched it also. Enjoyable, fun game.
The only players I would want from 2018 on CMA's team is Ponds and Owens. You can have the rest. Brilliant game by Ponds. Clark, in typical fashion, fouled out. Simon, hard to watch.
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We have the alarm status since March 13th.
We can leave home only for work, going to supermarkets and pharmacies.
In Spain the overall situation is not good, increasing the sick people and the deaths.
My family, job partners and me are Ok.
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I have compassion for those who are being laid off due to this media-driven frenzy. Look at the stats for past pandemics. Over 1 billion people were infected with swine flu with 500,000 deaths. What did we do? I honestly don't even remember it. You bet your arse it would be different if that came around now with how social media has evolved and how nasty, sensational, and partisan the media has become.
The economic casualties will far outweigh the actual physical impact this virus will have.
H1N1 had a fatality rate of 0.02%. Coronavirus is believed to have a fatality rate of anywhere from 1.5%-8%.
If it were to infect the same amount of people, a conservative estimate would put the dead at 1,200,000 in the US.
That is why it is necessary to curb the spread.
But yes, it is as you said, "a joke"
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H1N1 had a fatality rate of 0.02%. Coronavirus is believed to have a fatality rate of anywhere from 1.5%-8%.
If it were to infect the same amount of people, a conservative estimate would put the dead at 1,200,000 in the US.
That is why it is necessary to curb the spread.
But yes, it is as you said, "a joke"
I am afraid that is not how it works, and perhaps this is what is meant by media frenzy feeding misinformation. For one thing, the virus does not have a fatality rate, it is the disease COVID-19 that has a case fatality rate. (This is akin to AIDS being the disease, which kills you, while HIV is the virus).
Case fatality rate of COVID-19 is not just the reported cases. It is the reported cases plus the unreported cases plus the asymptomatic cases (the latter two are far more and far more difficult to assess). When you add up all those against actual deaths you will see the percentage slipping lower and lower and lower.
Second, you want to look at the rate of duplication or spread (how quickly it is spread from one person to another and the days it takes to manifest in the person it is transmitted to) ... This is a slow-moving and less deadly virus in comparison to a number of other virsuses but still it is contagious and in the extreme density of an unprepared and undisciplined NYC you should see high number of cases (we are at almost 50% of all cases of US in a very small geographic area).
When all is said and done this entire virus/disease episode will generate less cases and less case fatalities than even h1n1 ... and guess what it is almost over :)
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H1N1 had a fatality rate of 0.02%. Coronavirus is believed to have a fatality rate of anywhere from 1.5%-8%.
If it were to infect the same amount of people, a conservative estimate would put the dead at 1,200,000 in the US.
That is why it is necessary to curb the spread.
But yes, it is as you said, "a joke"
Take out your tampon and use it to soak up your tears.
If you think COVD-19 has a mortality rate of 8% then you are a grade A twit. It will be well under 1% when the dust settles.
80% of H1N1 fatalities were under the age of 65 and we did absolutely nothing. If the same outbreak occurred now you would see mass hysteria.
Social media was in its infancy in 2009. The general media wasn’t as divisive and sensational (although still sh*tty). We weren’t so partisan and so quick to politicize every current event. We’ve had 12 years of constant sparring to get to the sh*tshow we’ve become. Iron sharpens iron.
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I am afraid that is not how it works, and perhaps this is what is meant by media frenzy feeding misinformation. For one thing, the virus does not have a fatality rate, it is the disease COVID-19 that has a case fatality rate. (This is akin to AIDS being the disease, which kills you, while HIV is the virus).
Case fatality rate of COVID-19 is not just the reported cases. It is the reported cases plus the unreported cases plus the asymptomatic cases (the latter two are far more and far more difficult to assess). When you add up all those against actual deaths you will see the percentage slipping lower and lower and lower.
Second, you want to look at the rate of duplication or spread (how quickly it is spread from one person to another and the days it takes to manifest in the person it is transmitted to) ... This is a slow-moving and less deadly virus in comparison to a number of other virsuses but still it is contagious and in the extreme density of an unprepared and undisciplined NYC you should see high number of cases (we are at almost 50% of all cases of US in a very small geographic area).
When all is said and done this entire virus/disease episode will generate less cases and less case fatalities than even h1n1 ... and guess what it is almost over :)
Replace the word "Coronavirus" with the word "Covid-19" to fix that issue (my understanding was that covid-19 was a type of coronavirus, rather than the AIDS/HIV reference you used, but I've been wrong before).
According to the WHO, coronavirus has a serial interval if 5-6 days compared to the regular flu at 3 days, but it is believed to have a higher rate of secondary infections (roughly 2-2.5). The case mortality ratio was 3-4% as of 3/6 (old numbers, but all i found in a quick search from the WHO)
The CDC and the Chinese government's most recent numbers estimate a 2.3% CFR (case fatality rate). This is much higher than that of the seasonal flu in the US (.1%). While that number would be expected to drop if all infections were known, there is also the variable that this far, deaths have occurred between 2-8 weeks after symptoms have first appeared, meaning the death count is not accurate yet for CFR's purposes, either.
You are correct, there is no way to know the true IFR (infected fatality rate) until this is over, but most estimates seem to expect it to settle around 1-1.5%.
To play it off that this is nothing seems ignorant to me. But let's hope you're right.
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Take out your tampon and use it to soak up your tears.
The irony of this coming from you is hilarious.
:'( :'( :'(
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The irony of this coming from you is hilarious.
:'( :'( :'(
I’m a maxipad fan. This isn’t the dark ages.
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I watched it also. Enjoyable, fun game.
The only players I would want from 2018 on CMA's team is Ponds and Owens. You can have the rest. Brilliant game by Ponds. Clark, in typical fashion, fouled out. Simon, hard to watch.
Ahmed had a great game in that one too. Don’t think he or Ponds would fit this current style but boy, would have been nice to have Ahmed last year.
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Anyway, to answer the thread question it's an odd situation for me as my day to day life hasn't changed much, other than seeing less people out on the street and taking more precautions at work. Im fortunate enough to be guaranteed work and a paycheck (until someone at my office catches it anyway, then it'll just be the paycheck without the work).
Best wishes to everyone (even you Marillac), may we all make it through happy and healthy
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Replace the word "Coronavirus" with the word "Covid-19" to fix that issue (my understanding was that covid-19 was a type of coronavirus, rather than the AIDS/HIV reference you used, but I've been wrong before).
According to the WHO, coronavirus has a serial interval if 5-6 days compared to the regular flu at 3 days, but it is believed to have a higher rate of secondary infections (roughly 2-2.5). The case mortality ratio was 3-4% as of 3/6 (old numbers, but all i found in a quick search from the WHO)
The CDC and the Chinese government's most recent numbers estimate a 2.3% CFR (case fatality rate). This is much higher than that of the seasonal flu in the US (.1%). While that number would be expected to drop if all infections were known, there is also the variable that this far, deaths have occurred between 2-8 weeks after symptoms have first appeared, meaning the death count is not accurate yet for CFR's purposes, either.
You are correct, there is no way to know the true IFR (infected fatality rate) until this is over, but most estimates seem to expect it to settle around 1-1.5%.
To play it off that this is nothing seems ignorant to me. But let's hope you're right.
Did you go to all three years of epidemiology school or did you get skipped ahead a grade.
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According to the WHO,
https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152
the Chinese government's most recent numbers estimate
Excellent sources you've chosen
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Replace the word "Coronavirus" with the word "Covid-19" to fix that issue (my understanding was that covid-19 was a type of coronavirus, rather than the AIDS/HIV reference you used, but I've been wrong before).
According to the WHO, coronavirus has a serial interval if 5-6 days compared to the regular flu at 3 days, but it is believed to have a higher rate of secondary infections (roughly 2-2.5). The case mortality ratio was 3-4% as of 3/6 (old numbers, but all i found in a quick search from the WHO)
The CDC and the Chinese government's most recent numbers estimate a 2.3% CFR (case fatality rate). This is much higher than that of the seasonal flu in the US (.1%). While that number would be expected to drop if all infections were known, there is also the variable that this far, deaths have occurred between 2-8 weeks after symptoms have first appeared, meaning the death count is not accurate yet for CFR's purposes, either.
You are correct, there is no way to know the true IFR (infected fatality rate) until this is over, but most estimates seem to expect it to settle around 1-1.5%.
To play it off that this is nothing seems ignorant to me. But let's hope you're right.
well even if you take the existing official New York data 27000 cases 270 deaths you are at just 1% whereas unreported and asymptomatic could easily make it 50000 cases with 270 death.
I am even more optimistic than Marillac, and predict .7% ...
Also we already know the trajectory of the disease from China and now Washington state ... we know how it is going to play out ...
It just seems all the sound and fury has been generated by mainstream and social media ... signifying nothing ;)
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Excellent sources you've chosen
The CFR numbers used are a matter of comparing reported cases and deaths so the source in this instance is somewhat irrelevant.
It is understood that many cases are going unreported. It's one of the reasons Italy looks so horrible - they're only testing those who are already showing more severe symptoms at this point, so of course those numbers will look worse than the true value.
Multiple university studies both in the US and abroad seem to share a similar sentiment that this is more dangerous than influenza. I didn't perform the studies myself, and no, i didn't attend school for epidemiology. But the people who did are coming to these conclusions, which leads me to believe them.
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I am even more optimistic than Marillac, and predict .7%
So on the low end it will be 7 times more deadly than the flu?
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Anyone who isn’t doing well mentally because of two weeks of quasi-isolation needs to take a long look in the mirror.
This is nothing but media driven hysteria and will be looked back on as a joke.
Talking about the economic ramifications like you mentioned, the stock market tanked and many people got laid off, w many businesses closed. And there are a lot of people who live paycheck to paycheck. There is also a lot of uncertainty out there. Throw in the fear of contacted the virus and there is a lot of mental anguish.
I agree w you staying home for 2 weeks in and of itself is no big deal. I’m trying to view it as a staycation. I’m a dentist in S. Fl and I had to close my office, leaving me w no income from the office and expenses. Fortunately ,I save for a rainy day and am not worried about the short term. I can lye in my lounge chair w perfect weather and read. Watching a lot of Netflix. I also go for bicycle rides.
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Italy.
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So which is it?
Do you not believe that Nyc is running out of Icu beds and ventilators or do you not believe that it's a problem?
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Multiple university studies both in the US and abroad seem to share a similar sentiment that this is more dangerous than influenza. I didn't perform the studies myself, and no, i didn't attend school for epidemiology. But the people who did are coming to these conclusions, which leads me to believe them.
The problem with the studies that are reported in the news is that they're reported in the news. Because the news (1) thrives on lurching from crisis to crisis and (2) has spent three years trying to get Trump - Russia Russia Russia Russia Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine CORONA! - and this is just another opportunity. Obama went golfing on Martha's Vineyard the day he declared H1N1 - which infected 60 million people and killed a thousand people a month - a national emergency. The media praised him. Do you think they'd have praised Trump this week if he's been out golfing?
Here's a study not reported in the news.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says
99 percent of Italians who allegedly died from Corona had preexisting illnesses. 75 percent had two existing comorbidities. Nevertheless anyone who died who tested positive for the virus was pronounced dead of corona. They've gone so far as to test people who'd died previously and been pronounced dead of other causes and change the cause of death to Corona if the dead people test positive. The average age of the victims was 81. Eight-one years young.
Ironically this (weaponized Chicom bat virus pandemic) was exasperated by all the things lefties pine for: open borders, unfettered immigration, outsourcing, urbanization, globalization and political correctness. You'd think lefties would get one thing right every once in a while, just randomly - even Mario Mendoza got a base hit twice in ten times - but it never happens. In Italy thousands of imported Chinese workers returned to Wuhan for Chinese New Year and were permitted to return to Italy after the Chicoms and WHO knew that human to human transmission was possible. As the virus spread the mayor of Lombardy encouraged his citizens to take off their masks and hug random Chinese in the streets to fight racism and xenophobia
https://pluralist.com/hug-a-chinese-florence-coronavirus/
In a stunning turn of events that turned out poorly.
Neither of us studied epidemiology. But we've heard of thalidomide, and the Gulf of Tonkin, and government promulgated dietary guidelines that have killed more people in the US than Hitler killed my Jewish forebears (that's right, I'm chosen) in Germany, and Tuskegee, and weapons of mass destruction, and Chappaquiddick and Iran Contra and that's off the top of my head. These people are cheats and liars who care only about power and the endgame is you or your children slogging through rice fields to meet a five year agricultural plan quota perpetrated by some over educated Yale graduate who's busy golfing. Believe them at your own risk.
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So the governor of Nevada declared that hydroxychloroquine is banned in his state. Now Cuomo, just days after talking about it being a potential gamechanger, has blocked doctors from writing prescriptions for it.
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1242897547171004417
First of all, what the hell is the reasoning behind these bans. Have there been any reported cases of patients that have had horrific outcomes due to being prescribed this drug? Everything I've read about this treatment has been extremely positive from Europe to America.
Secondly, our system is seriously #$%^ed up if a dumbass Governor, or President, or any elected official for that matter can tell Doctors what they can and can't prescribe to their sick patients.
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People with no pre-existing conditions are starting to die from this.
This is not a good time to learn from other Republicans. Allow me to help you guys on the right with an explanation that breaks this all down for you.
Skittles sure are delicious. Imagine I gave you a bag of 100 Skittles, but I told you that three of them were poisonous.
Would you still eat the Skittles?
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So the governor of Nevada declared that hydroxychloroquine is banned in his state. Now Cuomo, just days after talking about it being a potential gamechanger, has blocked doctors from writing prescriptions for it.
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1242897547171004417
First of all, what the hell is the reasoning behind these bans. Have there been any reported cases of patients that have had horrific outcomes due to being prescribed this drug? Everything I've read about this treatment has been extremely positive from Europe to America.
Secondly, our system is seriously #$%^ed up if a dumbass Governor, or President, or any elected official for that matter can tell Doctors what they can and can't prescribe to their sick patients.
The difference is that Cuomo said he believed it could be the answer. Trump said it was, because he’s a stupid POS.
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I have compassion for those who are being laid off due to this media-driven frenzy. Look at the stats for past pandemics. Over 1 billion people were infected with swine flu with 500,000 deaths. What did we do? I honestly don't even remember it. You bet your arse it would be different if that came around now with how social media has evolved and how nasty, sensational, and partisan the media has become.
The economic casualties will far outweigh the actual physical impact this virus will have.
Yea the financial issues are real for a lot of people myself included. Under Armour canceled events which canceled at least half my 2020 paycheck.
The medical issues are real too. My mother was in serious condition just a few weeks ago with multiple blood clots in her lungs and now she is at a very high risk. The anxiety alone of her being scared to go to follow up visits at hospital is troubling nor have I been able to see her.
There are plenty of things that are messed up in the world, some more than this, but real people are effected. It's not some social media sensation.
We can take the Corona tough guy takes and you're probably right when you say swine flu might take lives of more people but that doesn't justify having this take lives when it doesn't have to.
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I like a good conspiracy theory way more than the next guy. For example I believe we never went to the moon (it was filmed in a Hollywood studio); aliens landed in New Mexico; and the Dempsey vs. Tunney long count was the result of a mob fix.
I am more than willing to believe that Swine flu was in fact worse than Corona virus and the only difference in perception and action is that the Democratic party and the media (is there any difference cepting Fox of course?) is going hog wild pushing the panic button, purposefully screwing the economy in order to hurt Trump 2020.
Yet there's a gaping hole in that theory. How could the Dems possibly get the entire world on board with it in order to bump up Biden/Abrams 2020? The globe is acting in coordinated unison to hurt Trump in a way they didn't in 2009 because it would have hindered Obama? Impossible.
I call obvious bullsh*te. Your better off sticking to the government dropped the towers on 9/11.
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Yea the financial issues are real for a lot of people myself included. Under Armour canceled events which canceled at least half my 2020 paycheck.
The medical issues are real too. My mother was in serious condition just a few weeks ago with multiple blood clots in her lungs and now she is at a very high risk. The anxiety alone of her being scared to go to follow up visits at hospital is troubling nor have I been able to see her.
There are plenty of things that are messed up in the world, some more than this, but real people are effected. It's not some social media sensation.
We can take the Corona tough guy takes and you're probably right when you say swine flu might take lives of more people but that doesn't justify having this take lives when it doesn't have to.
All the best to you and your mom. If I wasn't a blasted infidel I'd be praying.
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I like a good conspiracy theory way more than the next guy. For example I believe we never went to the moon (it was filmed in a Hollywood studio); aliens landed in New Mexico; and the Dempsey vs. Tunney long count was the result of a mob fix.
I am more than willing to believe that Swine flu was in fact worse than Corona virus and the only difference in perception and action is that the Democratic party and the media (is there any difference cepting Fox of course?) is going hog wild pushing the panic button, purposefully screwing the economy in order to hurt Trump 2020.
Yet there's a gaping hole in that theory. How could the Dems possibly get the entire world on board with it in order to bump up Biden/Abrams 2020? The globe is acting in coordinated unison to hurt Trump in a way they didn't in 2009 because it would have hindered Obama? Impossible.
I call obvious bullsh*te. Your better off sticking to the government dropped the towers on 9/11.
World doesn't have to be in on it they are collateral damage. ;)
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The difference is that Cuomo said he believed it could be the answer. Trump said it was, because he’s a stupid POS.
If he believed it could be the answer why is he preventing doctors from prescribing it to their patients?
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https://pluralist.com/hug-a-chinese-florence-coronavirus/
In a stunning turn of events that turned out poorly.
Not just in Italy.
https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1242844581441331201
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The number of neanderthals on this thread downplaying this is disheartening. The sad thing is they will think they were correct no matter what, even if the extreme measures taken works as intended. If we are able to flatten the curve due to closing non-essential business they will claim we overreacted. Must be nice to live in a fantasy world.
If it were up to them they'd let it run rampant and allow 3 million americans die. Thank god they are not in charge, and instead are limited to posting uninformed comments on basketball forums.
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I archived a lot of posts in this thread. This thread isn't a political debate. If you want to talk politics go into the appropriate board on this forum to do so.
This also isn't the place to voice your opinions on how people are handling their emotions.
Want to keep this thread to see how people are doing and keep this positive. Is that so hard to do?
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I archived a lot of posts in this thread. This thread isn't a political debate. If you want to talk politics go into the appropriate board on this forum to do so.
This also isn't the place to voice your opinions on how people are handling their emotions.
Want to keep this thread to see how people are doing and keep this positive. Is that so hard to do?
So you kept the post above this with redstorm212 calling everyone Neanderthals? This is a very rm.com moderator move.
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Sadly Queens is getting crushed.
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Dave - my thoughts and prayers are with you for your mom to get healthy.
It is terrifying how many people are still underestimating this disease and our lack of preparedness for it. Trust me, I would hope for nothing else than our President to be absolutely right about all of his wild claims which aren’t based on fact or logic. But unfortunately he’s not going to be.
I’m doing OK - working remotely which gives me a lot more time to spend with my 2 month old (and his older brothers) which is nice.
As someone who is potentially higher risk, I was freaking out a bit at the beginning of this but OK with it now. Just have to wash hands, be smart, social distance and continue to live life within the new normal and try not to let anxiety take over our thoughts.
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Cuomo has the right mindset for this. He wants to focus on what we can do now, instead of on his feelings in general. He's a leader, and we can all see that now.
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Cuomo has the right mindset for this. He wants to focus on what we can do now, instead of on his feelings in general. He's a leader, and we can all see that now.
NY has almost half of the cases and is probably responsible for the spread in other states. That is good leadership to you?
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NY has almost half of the cases and is probably responsible for the spread in other states. That is good leadership to you?
Neither chump or Cuomo are responsible for the spread of the virus. The question is who is doing their best to stop the spread. Cuomo is obviously on top of things and, yes, that is leadership. Chump has come around but his initial reactions and statements reveal him for the fool he is, particularly his latest Easter pronouncement.
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Neither chump or Cuomo are responsible for the spread of the virus. The question is who is doing their best to stop the spread. Cuomo is obviously on top of things and, yes, that is leadership. Chump has come around but his initial reactions and statements reveal him for the fool he is, particularly his latest Easter pronouncement.
Oh you mean like everybody calling him a racist for stopping incoming flights from China in late January?
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Dave, you want me to start a new thread:
"Trunks and Asses - Enter at your own risk"
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Oh you mean like everybody calling him a racist for stopping incoming flights from China in late January?
Everybody? Not me, not any republicans. Your word selection leaves something to be desired
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Oh you mean like everybody calling him a racist for stopping incoming flights from China in late January?
Do you think Trump handled this well? You know, I wonder if being a psychopath and also having zero experience in handling anything that requires leadership of any kind combined with being so f’n stupid that he thinks he’s great at everything, including understanding and prescribing a cure to his base.
A word of advice... don’t take Trump’s.
But yeah, his choice of words isn’t helpful and I think we all know it’s intended to divert blame.
Come November, people will remember the mistake they made not trying harder to stop this nice person.
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Do you think Trump handled this well? You know, I wonder if being a psychopath and also having zero experience in handling anything that requires leadership of any kind combined with being so f’n stupid that he thinks he’s great at everything, including understanding and prescribing a cure to his base.
A word of advice... don’t take Trump’s.
But yeah, his choice of words isn’t helpful and I think we all know it’s intended to divert blame.
Come November, people will remember the mistake they made not trying harder to stop this nice person.
Cuomo let tens of thousands of college kids go to spring break to congregate in crowded bars and hotel rooms, hookup with multiple people, and then return to New York on crowded planes. He let yeshivas and Hasidic communities do as they pleased for weeks.
NYC, a city of almost 9 million people, couldn’t handle an extra 80 bodies. It didn’t have a fraction of the ventilators or ICU beds needed. Who is responsible for that poor planning?
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Guys I really don't understand why you can't comprehend.... No political debate in this area of the forum. It's really simple.