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Games in Brooklyn?

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Games in Brooklyn?
« on: June 22, 2010, 10:31:48 AM »
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2010, 11:49:36 AM »
This just sounds like a bad idea.  Why go pissing off MSG when we have brought nothing to the table in a decade?  Stick with MSG.

I like the idea of having a couple of Big East games at CA for the students and the marquee games in MSG.  Now we're going to have a 3rd home?  Don't like it.

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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 08:51:36 AM »
GREAT idea.  MSG constantly brings in other college teams for tourneys and even for single games (duke).  If they can have a wandering eye, so can we.  Keep msg home, but nothing wrong with playing a few games a year that we woulda played at CA at Barclays and one marquee game (perhaps seton hall or marquette there, for example, and then add a marquee name for 3rd).
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 01:15:40 PM »
Quote from: Tha Kid on June 23, 2010, 08:51:36 AM
GREAT idea.  MSG constantly brings in other college teams for tourneys and even for single games (duke).  If they can have a wandering eye, so can we.  Keep msg home, but nothing wrong with playing a few games a year that we woulda played at CA at Barclays and one marquee game (perhaps seton hall or marquette there, for example, and then add a marquee name for 3rd).

I agree.
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 11:49:17 PM »
I wouldn't mind 1 game there but to have a bulk of games there wouldn't be wise for student fan support. If kids don't make the subway trip to the Garden they will never do it to Brooklyn.
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 12:00:55 PM »
brooklyn, like newark, isn't the most convenient place to watch a game.  the arenas may be state of the art, but they're in the middle of nowhere.
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 12:56:06 AM »
middle of no where lol , Atlantic ave  & Flatbush is one of the busiest intersections in the city and is across from Atlanitc center which has 2,3,4,5,B,D,N,R trains 2 blocks from the A,C & G trains not to mention 2 mins from the Brooklyn and Manhattan bridge,Brooklyn Battery Tunnerl, the BQE ,Gowans, Ferrys from NJ to red hook which is not far .Brooklyn property value is way higher than  Queens pls dont compare us to Newark
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 04:21:04 PM »
i drive practically everywhere.  that's what makes newark and brooklyn in the middle of nowhere.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 04:24:30 PM »
I think Brooklyn is going to be a GREAT place for a basketball arena.
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 06:40:02 PM »
Brooklyn is not the middle of nowhere.  It is the center of everywhere.

the selection of restaurants and bars near where the arena will be built are very good and growing.  one can park (if you must drive) within one to two subway stops away (or a short bus trip) and pay no parking and have access to some great restaurants. 

This arena will allow us to be a "visitor" in playing some local schools and generate good guarantees for St. John's rather than us paying LIU and St Francis to come to Queens.  it will also provide a nearer location to our Staten Island campus.
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2010, 11:22:59 AM »
Quote from: newsman13 on June 28, 2010, 04:21:04 PM
i drive practically everywhere.  that's what makes newark and brooklyn in the middle of nowhere.
And you live in New York?  Geez!  I couldn't deal with the traffic if I drove everywhere.

I'm not big on the Brooklyn location for traffic/ congestion reasons (I used to live about 3 blocks from where the arena will be) but that part of Brooklyn is very cool.  Driving there from Long Island will be, well, implausible and slow (think of being on the Major Deegan at about 4.45 going north near Yankee Stadium, and there's an accident on the GW bridge).  But students will find that if they can make it to the LIRR, it's a straight shot to Flatbush/ Atlantic.  Easy to get to from Brooklyn. Hell, every train that goes through downtown Manhattan to Brooklyn is within walking distance, as is the G train.
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2010, 11:42:42 AM »
Quote from: redslope on June 28, 2010, 06:40:02 PM
This arena will allow us to be a "visitor" in playing some local schools and generate good guarantees for St. John's rather than us paying LIU and St Francis to come to Queens. 

That's a very good point.  I wouldn't mind playing other locals as an "away" team but I'm not a fan of having 3 home courts.  You lose some degree of home court advantage IMO.

MSG and CA are plenty.
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Re: Games in Brooklyn?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 05:11:13 PM »
StJ was born in Bklyn so there is a natural fit. It should always be on the table in negotiaing with the Garden who has 'tolerated' us for the last 6 or so years.  The new look at StJ, by itself, makes us a more desirable booking and, don't you forget that the new competition has the Dolans looking over their shoulder. Has anyone noticed that Yankee Stadium introduced the "Stadium Bowl" and now East Rutherford responded with a Syracuse/ Penn State matchup in 2013? It's all about keeping and growing what you have and the Garden has us.  They will be a lot more agreeable going forward because everyone will want this 'plum' assuming  we will get going again.
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