The Lavin Effect on Attendance

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The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« on: September 23, 2010, 03:51:33 PM »
St. John's averaged 6,107 at home games last season, but there were only three games which had attendance over 7k [Georgia (15, 874), Villanova (14,432), and Cincinnati (7,040)] . The Georgia one was impacted by being the opening act for the battle for PBR, UK/UConn.

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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 04:41:34 PM »
In a few years when we are a power again I think are attendance will start to explode but for this year a lot depends on what we do in the early season. If we go out and beat ASU and St. Mary's and get ranked then attendance will be good but if we struggle early Lavin or not the people wont come out this year. NY wants a winner and we will have one here but until we prove it the general NY sports fan who doesn't know things are turning around will still have to be won over with some prolonged success. Attendance will be better but how much better depends on the team on the court not Lavin.

Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 07:30:11 PM »
With home games  this year against NY draws like Georgetown, UConn, Syracuse, Duke, Notre Dame, and even Pittsburgh, it should give a quality pop to the home ticket sales.  Although we got rid of one A-10 bottom feeder, Fordham, from our home slate, we added St. Bonaventure as well as Wagner & Columbia. I like the diversity and strength overall in the schedule.

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/stjo-m-baskbl-sched.html

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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2010, 10:14:07 AM »
Might be ballsy and bullish on my part but I think we average 10k this year.
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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2010, 01:00:46 PM »
St. John's averaged 6,107 at home games last season, but there were only three games which had attendance over 7k [Georgia (15, 874), Villanova (14,432), and Cincinnati (7,040)] . The Georgia one was impacted by being the opening act for the battle for PBR, UK/UConn.
Was at all 3 games. At the start of the georgia game there was less then 100 fans. Way more security guards then fans. Georgia brought about 25 fans. Uconn about 5000. UK brought the rest. Nova was the most depressing. I was meeting my friend but I forgot my phone. We were going to meet on one of the bars on 33rd street. They were to crowded though, all with Nova fans. Went to the game saw us fall apart by myself. Cinncinatti not a bad crowd, not many people pro SJU.

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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2010, 01:03:23 PM »
Average may be low because we play so many games at Alumni Hall. We will have good crowds for UCONN, Cuse, Georgetown, and ND. Hopefully for the first time in a while they will be rooting for the home team.

Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2010, 01:27:59 PM »
manbearpig wants to know if membership here has risen at a more accelerated rate since hiring lavin? he thinks it could provide some indication. Manbearpig just bought season tix for the 1st time

Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2010, 02:07:32 PM »
manbearpig wants to know if membership here has risen at a more accelerated rate since hiring lavin? he thinks it could provide some indication. Manbearpig just bought season tix for the 1st time

We had 1 million page views in the first 60 days of Lavin's hire. Thats almost 17,000 views a day pretty amazing.
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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2010, 03:31:10 PM »
Might be ballsy and bullish on my part but I think we average 10k this year.
If you can arrange it, I'd sign for it right now, Moose.  ;)

manbearpig wants to know if membership here has risen at a more accelerated rate since hiring lavin? he thinks it could provide some indication. Manbearpig just bought season tix for the 1st time

We had 1 million page views in the first 60 days of Lavin's hire. Thats almost 17,000 views a day pretty amazing.
Forgive me, but is that a major boost over the Norm era?
What was he averaging--even after some post-halftime disasters--or some of Monasch's "we're still evaluating" comments?

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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2010, 04:25:33 PM »
Here is something I figured out a few years ago.  Haven't updated it but I'm sure it maintains the flatline.

Year                   Average Attendance
2000-2001   15,662
2001-2002   11,910
2002-2003   11,734
2003-2004   8,266
2004-2005   8,676
2005-2006   7,003
2006-2007   9,493
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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2010, 04:28:52 PM »
Might be ballsy and bullish on my part but I think we average 10k this year.
If you can arrange it, I'd sign for it right now, Moose.  ;)

manbearpig wants to know if membership here has risen at a more accelerated rate since hiring lavin? he thinks it could provide some indication. Manbearpig just bought season tix for the 1st time

We had 1 million page views in the first 60 days of Lavin's hire. Thats almost 17,000 views a day pretty amazing.
Forgive me, but is that a major boost over the Norm era?
What was he averaging--even after some post-halftime disasters--or some of Monasch's "we're still evaluating" comments?

Traffic fluctuates at different times in the year. Switching over hosting I think I may have lost some traffic history however on average the site averages 8-12k views a day. During Lavin's hire we were consistently above 16k a day.
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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2010, 04:31:51 PM »
Here is something I figured out a few years ago.  Haven't updated it but I'm sure it maintains the flatline.

Year                   Average Attendance
2000-2001   15,662
2001-2002   11,910
2002-2003   11,734
2003-2004   8,266
2004-2005   8,676
2005-2006   7,003
2006-2007   9,493


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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2010, 04:54:12 PM »
Here is something I figured out a few years ago.  Haven't updated it but I'm sure it maintains the flatline.

Year                   Average Attendance
2000-2001   15,662
2001-2002   11,910
2002-2003   11,734
2003-2004   8,266
2004-2005   8,676
2005-2006   7,003
2006-2007   9,493

Thanks, Moose. Is that home or road & home?
That 15K seems so high, but hopefully this staff can eventually achieve it.

Might be ballsy and bullish on my part but I think we average 10k this year.
If you can arrange it, I'd sign for it right now, Moose.  ;)

manbearpig wants to know if membership here has risen at a more accelerated rate since hiring lavin? he thinks it could provide some indication. Manbearpig just bought season tix for the 1st time

We had 1 million page views in the first 60 days of Lavin's hire. Thats almost 17,000 views a day pretty amazing.
Forgive me, but is that a major boost over the Norm era?
What was he averaging--even after some post-halftime disasters--or some of Monasch's "we're still evaluating" comments?

Traffic fluctuates at different times in the year. Switching over hosting I think I may have lost some traffic history however on average the site averages 8-12k views a day. During Lavin's hire we were consistently above 16k a day.
Interesting. From a Kentucky owner/operator, I've heard that traffic, in general, tends to be higher M-Th and drops off on the weekend.

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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2010, 04:58:42 PM »
I believe that's home, and remember that in 2000-2001 fans expected an NCAA Tournament team. And there were very good players on the roster.  It was popping back then.

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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2010, 05:18:04 PM »

Interesting. From a Kentucky owner/operator, I've heard that traffic, in general, tends to be higher M-Th and drops off on the weekend.

This is also true. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are the slowest days. Funny its the days no one has work.
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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2010, 05:19:14 PM »
Its home and just Garden games.
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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2010, 05:23:31 PM »
Its home and just Garden games.
Thanks for the clarification.


Interesting. From a Kentucky owner/operator, I've heard that traffic, in general, tends to be higher M-Th and drops off on the weekend.
This is also true. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are the slowest days. Funny its the days no one has work.
So, you're killing productivity in the workforce...

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Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2010, 05:31:16 PM »
And thanks for the kill.  What did people do before the internet?  I don't think it was "work faster."

Re: The Lavin Effect on Attendance
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2011, 09:08:22 PM »
not sure if this was posted

increase of 2,324 at home games (38.1%)

11,488 per at msg

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/colleges/post/_/id/2314/st-johns-posts-4th-largest-attendance-increase