Sonoma State Game

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Re: Sonoma State Game
« Reply #80 on: November 09, 2015, 06:59:23 PM »
Did we play better Saturday? Or is Sonoma state just really bad? Didn't see the game.

We didn't turn the ball over nearly as much which was good. But Sonoma State didn't press us nearly as much as STAC did. We overall played much better on both sides of the ball, but Sonoma State looked a lot less talented than STAC.

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« Reply #81 on: November 09, 2015, 09:39:16 PM »
Anyone besides Sima look good. I was thinking Durand would be really good this year.
Durand has really bad form on his shot.  And he line drives it.  No arc. His arms and legs are all over the place.  The thing is he hit them in the Red White but not against the DII teams.  Troubling.

How is that troubling?  If his form was bad and he never hit them it would be an issue. 
He has hit 36% of his 3's in his career previously.





Earl Monroe shot a line drive, if the ball goes in who cares.  36% ON 3S Is 54 on 2s....OK


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Re: Sonoma State Game
« Reply #82 on: November 09, 2015, 09:41:26 PM »
Did we play better Saturday? Or is Sonoma state just really bad? Didn't see the game.

We didn't turn the ball over nearly as much which was good. But Sonoma State didn't press us nearly as much as STAC did. We overall played much better on both sides of the ball, but Sonoma State looked a lot less talented than STAC.

Sonoma looked like a collection of guys that you'd see playing pickup on the Upper East Side.

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« Reply #83 on: November 09, 2015, 10:29:43 PM »
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Re: Sonoma State Game
« Reply #84 on: November 09, 2015, 11:43:01 PM »
Anyone besides Sima look good. I was thinking Durand would be really good this year.
Durand has really bad form on his shot.  And he line drives it.  No arc. His arms and legs are all over the place.  The thing is he hit them in the Red White but not against the DII teams.  Troubling.

How is that troubling?  If his form was bad and he never hit them it would be an issue. 
He has hit 36% of his 3's in his career previously.
It is because he hasn't played in a year and a half, and some guys never regain their form after a long layoff like that.  And he couldn't hit against DII comp.  That is troubling.  And I never remember his form being so all over the place.

He did hit a better looking three in the second half but he picked up his third foul on the next play.  I was kind of hoping they'd  leave him in to get him going.  No big deal if he fouls out in a DII scrimmage that we were going to win easily anyway.  We would have won by more if had stayed in.  He finished the game with three fouls and after they took him out the lead shrank.

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« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2015, 08:50:58 AM »
Anyone besides Sima look good. I was thinking Durand would be really good this year.
Durand has really bad form on his shot.  And he line drives it.  No arc. His arms and legs are all over the place.  The thing is he hit them in the Red White but not against the DII teams.  Troubling.

How is that troubling?  If his form was bad and he never hit them it would be an issue. 
He has hit 36% of his 3's in his career previously.
It is because he hasn't played in a year and a half, and some guys never regain their form after a long layoff like that.  And he couldn't hit against DII comp.  That is troubling.  And I never remember his form being so all over the place.

He did hit a better looking three in the second half but he picked up his third foul on the next play.  I was kind of hoping they'd  leave him in to get him going.  No big deal if he fouls out in a DII scrimmage that we were going to win easily anyway.  We would have won by more if had stayed in.  He finished the game with three fouls and after they took him out the lead shrank.

He wasn't hurt.  Its not like he couldnt shoot every day which I'm certain he has been doing.  I can't say for certain I remember his form.  I'm sure I can take 5 minutes out of my day to YouTube clips of him from Brewster and see first hand.  All I know is plenty of player have had horrible form and the ball goes in the basket.  I'm hardly using these couple of games as a point.

Pretty sure Dwight Hardy had a horrible shooting 10 or so first games of his SJU career.  How did that turn out.
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Re: Sonoma State Game
« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2015, 06:17:19 PM »
Anyone besides Sima look good. I was thinking Durand would be really good this year.
Durand has really bad form on his shot.  And he line drives it.  No arc. His arms and legs are all over the place.  The thing is he hit them in the Red White but not against the DII teams.  Troubling.

How is that troubling?  If his form was bad and he never hit them it would be an issue. 
He has hit 36% of his 3's in his career previously.
It is because he hasn't played in a year and a half, and some guys never regain their form after a long layoff like that.  And he couldn't hit against DII comp.  That is troubling.  And I never remember his form being so all over the place.

He did hit a better looking three in the second half but he picked up his third foul on the next play.  I was kind of hoping they'd  leave him in to get him going.  No big deal if he fouls out in a DII scrimmage that we were going to win easily anyway.  We would have won by more if had stayed in.  He finished the game with three fouls and after they took him out the lead shrank.

He wasn't hurt.  Its not like he couldnt shoot every day which I'm certain he has been doing.  I can't say for certain I remember his form.  I'm sure I can take 5 minutes out of my day to YouTube clips of him from Brewster and see first hand.  All I know is plenty of player have had horrible form and the ball goes in the basket.  I'm hardly using these couple of games as a point.

Pretty sure Dwight Hardy had a horrible shooting 10 or so first games of his SJU career.  How did that turn out.
This is true, Dwight had a killer second year.  I wasn't watching St.John's so closely in Fall 09, so I can't tell you what Hardy looked like in the Fall of his first year..  But, in any case, Durand doesn't get a second year, and that worries me.  Hopefully, though, once the season gets in full swing, and he plays steadily, his stroke will come around.  The stat you provided from his Pitt days was encouraging, so maybe this will be the case.  You're starting to make me think it will.

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Re: Sonoma State Game
« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2015, 07:03:19 PM »
Anyone besides Sima look good. I was thinking Durand would be really good this year.
Durand has really bad form on his shot.  And he line drives it.  No arc. His arms and legs are all over the place.  The thing is he hit them in the Red White but not against the DII teams.  Troubling.

How is that troubling?  If his form was bad and he never hit them it would be an issue. 
He has hit 36% of his 3's in his career previously.
It is because he hasn't played in a year and a half, and some guys never regain their form after a long layoff like that.  And he couldn't hit against DII comp.  That is troubling.  And I never remember his form being so all over the place.

He did hit a better looking three in the second half but he picked up his third foul on the next play.  I was kind of hoping they'd  leave him in to get him going.  No big deal if he fouls out in a DII scrimmage that we were going to win easily anyway.  We would have won by more if had stayed in.  He finished the game with three fouls and after they took him out the lead shrank.

He wasn't hurt.  Its not like he couldnt shoot every day which I'm certain he has been doing.  I can't say for certain I remember his form.  I'm sure I can take 5 minutes out of my day to YouTube clips of him from Brewster and see first hand.  All I know is plenty of player have had horrible form and the ball goes in the basket.  I'm hardly using these couple of games as a point.

Pretty sure Dwight Hardy had a horrible shooting 10 or so first games of his SJU career.  How did that turn out.

Hardy wasn't horrible. He horribly coached. He never had a 10 game stretch where he didn't shoot well.
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Re: Sonoma State Game
« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2015, 10:13:25 PM »
Anyone besides Sima look good. I was thinking Durand would be really good this year.
Durand has really bad form on his shot.  And he line drives it.  No arc. His arms and legs are all over the place.  The thing is he hit them in the Red White but not against the DII teams.  Troubling.

How is that troubling?  If his form was bad and he never hit them it would be an issue. 
He has hit 36% of his 3's in his career previously.
It is because he hasn't played in a year and a half, and some guys never regain their form after a long layoff like that.  And he couldn't hit against DII comp.  That is troubling.  And I never remember his form being so all over the place.

He did hit a better looking three in the second half but he picked up his third foul on the next play.  I was kind of hoping they'd  leave him in to get him going.  No big deal if he fouls out in a DII scrimmage that we were going to win easily anyway.  We would have won by more if had stayed in.  He finished the game with three fouls and after they took him out the lead shrank.

He wasn't hurt.  Its not like he couldnt shoot every day which I'm certain he has been doing.  I can't say for certain I remember his form.  I'm sure I can take 5 minutes out of my day to YouTube clips of him from Brewster and see first hand.  All I know is plenty of player have had horrible form and the ball goes in the basket.  I'm hardly using these couple of games as a point.

Pretty sure Dwight Hardy had a horrible shooting 10 or so first games of his SJU career.  How did that turn out.

Hardy wasn't horrible. He horribly coached. He never had a 10 game stretch where he didn't shoot well.

Can't find a ton of game logs since I just realized Stat Sheet is no longer in existence. But check out his first 6 games here. 5 were pretty bad.

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dwight-hardy-1/gamelog/
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