Defense

Has anyone noticed that four years ago we were a refreshingly good defensive team, and now we’re a terrible defensive team?

Coach Anderson isn’t even able to run his own system with his own players.

Has anyone noticed that four years ago we were a refreshingly good defensive team, and now we’re a terrible defensive team?

Coach Anderson isn’t even able to run his own system with his own players.

Absolutely. Chris Mullins recruited players who knew how to play and Greg St Jean coached them up to the league and the ones who transferred are thriving. Hashtag Iron Mike.

Absolutely. Chris Mullins recruited players who knew how to play and Greg St Jean coached them up to the league and the ones who transferred are thriving. Hashtag Iron Mike.

By this point in the season, a Mullin team would be out of gas. I think you mean St.Jean coached them up to the G League.

Absolutely. Chris Mullins recruited players who knew how to play and Greg St Jean coached them up to the league and the ones who transferred are thriving. Hashtag Iron Mike.

Sadly, Chris neither recruited or coached his team.  Matt did the recruiting and GSJ did the coaching.  His coaching career ended when, after his first year, he sold his home on the north shore and moved into a hotel room while his wife and precocious teen daughter moved back to the Bay area.
There's a lot of BS about him wanting an extension but in reality he couldn't leave NY fast enough and return to the left coast.
His was the most questionable hire in SJ basketball coaching history.

Sadly, Chris neither recruited or coached his team.  Matt did the recruiting and GSJ did the coaching.  His coaching career ended when, after his first year, he sold his home on the north shore and moved into a hotel room while his wife and precocious teen daughter moved back to the Bay area.
There's a lot of BS about him wanting an extension but in reality he couldn't leave NY fast enough and return to the left coast.
His was the most questionable hire in SJ basketball coaching history.

This whole problem would have been avoided if they extended Lavin. Yes, Lavin was coming off a tough recruiting season BUT if he had an extension it may have been easier for him to recruit back to his usual levels after the Briscoe mess (Briscoe busted anyway).

Former President Bobby was a nice guy but was not good with understanding of sports and athletics. All he wanted was to sell tickets ala Mullin. Instead he forced a fit that was not meant to be and now has left the program in an awkward and even worse position because it did not work out. Now we are stuck with Anderson, prob one of the worst coaches we have had in years because we are cheap and we half ass this program.

It is a disservice to students, alum and fans. Its sadly fitting that we have become our sister school, DePaul. And also no longer even have a viable local pull with Seton Hall better than us and Providence and UConn better places to play.

This whole problem would have been avoided if they extended Lavin. Yes, Lavin was coming off a tough recruiting season BUT if he had an extension it may have been easier for him to recruit back to his usual levels after the Briscoe mess (Briscoe busted anyway).

Former President Bobby was a nice guy but was not good with understanding of sports and athletics. All he wanted was to sell tickets ala Mullin. Instead he forced a fit that was not meant to be and now has left the program in an awkward and even worse position because it did not work out. Now we are stuck with Anderson, prob one of the worst coaches we have had in years because we are cheap and we half ass this program.

It is a disservice to students, alum and fans. Its sadly fitting that we have become our sister school, DePaul. And also no longer even have a viable local pull with Seton Hall better than us and Providence and UConn better places to play.

St.John’s is notorious for making the wrong hire. I don’t see why that would change. Still, after a few years, I think everyone has had enough of the St.John’s coach.

Maybe they’ll get lucky like Rutgers did. I’m not holding my breath.

They can't possibly get "lucky" with the decision makers already in place.  The ineptitude is mind boggling. 

That's why the mantra..."only Pitino can save the program" makes sense.

This whole problem would have been avoided if they extended Lavin. Yes, Lavin was coming off a tough recruiting season BUT if he had an extension it may have been easier for him to recruit back to his usual levels after the Briscoe mess (Briscoe busted anyway).

Former President Bobby was a nice guy but was not good with understanding of sports and athletics. All he wanted was to sell tickets ala Mullin. Instead he forced a fit that was not meant to be and now has left the program in an awkward and even worse position because it did not work out. Now we are stuck with Anderson, prob one of the worst coaches we have had in years because we are cheap and we half ass this program.

It is a disservice to students, alum and fans. Its sadly fitting that we have become our sister school, DePaul. And also no longer even have a viable local pull with Seton Hall better than us and Providence and UConn better places to play.

We should have kept Jarvis. Our fans are absolutely insane.  Jarvis was recruiting top kids, his teams played tough defense and rebounded with anyone. We were top 3 in the country in rebounding twice in his short stint.

His offense was elementary and he pissed people off. In the bigger picture, who cares? We lost the stipend when he was fired and we got 5 years of Norm Roberts. Was that worth it?

Jarvis landed Showtime, Hamilton, Epperson, and a McDonald’s All-American, Elijah Ingram, at the end in spite of our delusional fans chanting for him to be fired and sh-tting in his face on the message boards.

If Lenny Cooke qualified, Darius Miles played a year of college, and/or Omar or Barkley stayed, he could have built a dynasty here — at least as much as a Big East  would allow.

We should have kept Lapchick.

No argument there

If Lou Alcindor had stayed committed, if Gary Payton had been given a scholarship, if someone had met Hakeem at the airport, there could have built a dynasty here — at least as much as a Big East  would allow.

Again, no argument.

Should have kept Frashilla and incorporated his pants dropping nut sack grabbing routine into our halftime entertainment

If we had only hired Jay Wright when he was at Hofstra.
If we had only hired Steve Pikiel out of Stony Brook.
If we had not hired Roberts and Mullin, etc.

If we had only hired Jay Wright when he was at Hofstra.
If we had only hired Steve Pikiel out of Stony Brook.
If we had not hired Roberts and Mullin, etc.

I was hopeful that Coach Anderson would work out because he was their third choice.

No argument there

Again, no argument.

I agree on both points. I stopped the clock at Jarvis since I was too young to remember Mahoney.

If we had only hired Jay Wright when he was at Hofstra.
If we had only hired Steve Pikiel out of Stony Brook.
If we had not hired Roberts and Mullin, etc.

What was wrong with Mullin? Lavin and Mullin were almost exactly the same in terms of end product. Our fans just can’t except that end product is pretty damn close to our ceiling as a program now.

There will always be issues with our coaches. We are not a top 50 job and the pressure of NYC and the toxic elements (unrealistic fanbase, narcissistic journalists, local high school coaches that feel they are owed something, etc.) make this job terrible.

Fran couldn’t wait to get out of here when we were on top! He said there were elements specific to St. John’s that he wouldn’t wish on anyone.

What was wrong with Mullin? Lavin and Mullin were almost exactly the same in terms of end product. Our fans just can’t except that end product is pretty damn close to our ceiling as a program now.

There will always be issues with our coaches. We are not a top 50 job and the pressure of NYC and the toxic elements (unrealistic fanbase, narcissistic journalists, local high school coaches that feel they are owed something, etc.) make this job terrible.

Fran couldn’t wait to get out of here when we were on top! He said there were elements specific to St. John’s that he wouldn’t wish on anyone.

Mullin was never a coach.....even when pretended to be one at St. John's.  Period.
Roberts and Mullin were poorly vetted hires that put the program back 10 years. Every other coach had a relative amount of success here....including Fran, Jarvis and Lavin.
Anderson falls into the Roberts category.  He checked off the right boxes.  Both had been on the staff or coached at elite basketball programs like Arkansas and Kansas. 
That they were African Americans was a bonus but unfortunately their hires didn't move the dial in signing elite black recruits from the tru-state area.  Those recruits still preferred to play for white coaches like Jay Wright, John Calipari, Jamie Dixon and Jim Boeheim.
The moral of the story is hire the most talented x and o coach available regardless of age or skin color.

Mullin was never a coach.....even when pretended to be one at St. John's.  Period.
Roberts and Mullin were poorly vetted hires that put the program back 10 years. Every other coach had a relative amount of success here....including Fran, Jarvis and Lavin.
Anderson falls into the Roberts category.  He checked off the right boxes.  Both had been on the staff or coached at elite basketball programs like Arkansas and Kansas. 
That they were African Americans was a bonus but unfortunately their hires didn't move the dial in signing elite black recruits from the tru-state area.  Those recruits still preferred to play for white coaches like Jay Wright, John Calipari, Jamie Dixon and Jim Boeheim.
The moral of the story is hire the most talented x and o coach available regardless of age or skin color.

I 100 percent agree. The school got so in the bag for the diversity initiative because they were hemorrhaging money and they sold their soul in the process throughout the campus. In basketball world, they care about the image and putting on these appearances but refuse to focus on building a program on wins. It has now caught up with them. I don't remember any fans on here ever calling for viable white representation on the team. We care about winning and getting good players irregardless of their race/color. Same should be true for coaches. First principle is find a winner and everything else falls into place. Anderson needs to be fired and they better not use the lame excuse that because he beat a lousy Georgetown team twice he stays. The program is still an embarrassment.

CFC not going anywhere.

Our defense is porous.