I get it Poison... I do.. I was at that game you reference.. A low point for sure.. Albeit far from the eventual bottom. But that was Ceds first season. He ended up transefering to Cle St , working hard on his game, and becoming a very good player.. Truth is, that happens all the time... Just not to guys we root for at St. John's. The league is filled with feel good stories about kids who get a call up to the NBA.