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He is one of the most skilled players we've had here in my time as a fan

Posterity awaits.

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Top 25 in his recruiting class.

His offensive numbers this season were pretty brutal. Good rebounder though. Would love him if he was a play immediately fifth year transfer but not sure I'm thrilled with this idea since he'd eat a scholarship while sitting out a year

"Averaged 5.3 points and 3.0 rebounds per game, while playing an average of 17.0 minutes per contest ... Shot 38.4 percent from the field, 35.3 percent from 3-point range and 71.2 percent from the free-throw line ... Recorded one double-double when he had career highs of 23 points and 12 rebounds vs. Saint Katherine ... Was 10-of-15 from the field in that game, "

These numbers are that brutal for a freshman, 6'8" forward?

Sign me up for him or anyone that played 10+ minutes for Izzo.

Those numbers are freshman stats for Dwayne Morgan unlv

Damn, I checked and Marvin Clark only averaged 9.9 mpg.  I drew a hard line at 10  

I looked at Marvin Clark's stats though in those 10 minutes per game.  He averaged 53% from the field, 40% from 3, 75% from the line and 2.8 rpg.  To me, those percentages say he should be playing more on most teams.  That's pretty efficient for fresh and soph numbers.  Looks like a great kid too from the documentary on YouTube.  Would be very happy to land this kid and Michigan state fans seemingly didn't want to lose him.

So the guy was tased twice - pulls the wires out of his back and still has the wherewithall to charge/punch a cop and attempt an escape?

At a minimum I'ld say he could provide toughness.

I for one hope we get Livingston AND Clark. 

If he can take a a double Tasing can you imagine how many charges he can take during a game ?

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So the guy was tased twice - pulls the wires out of his back and still has the wherewithall to charge/punch a cop and attempt an escape?

At a minimum I'ld say he could provide toughness.

I for one hope we get Livingston AND Clark. 

If he can take a a double Tasing can you imagine how many charges he can take during a game ?

Especially if he's off his meds.

With regards to Fellini:

The best thing about freshmen...........

And with regards to my brain damage:

Of course it's Lewis AND Clark and "Dr. LIvingston, I presume".

Quote from: carmineabbatiello on April 15, 2016, 12:27:18 AM

So the guy was tased twice - pulls the wires out of his back and still has the wherewithall to charge/punch a cop and attempt an escape?

At a minimum I'ld say he could provide toughness.

I for one hope we get Livingston AND Clark. 

If he can take a a double Tasing can you imagine how many charges he can take during a game ?

That's why I'm going with Anthony "Terminator" Livingston...  Maybe even Anthony "Shoryuken" Livingston...😉

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"I dont see Mussini contributing down the road.    Maybe im wrong Mase.
Freudenberg could be something.   But i think hes a project.   Not expecting a lot right away."

Think that Mussini will be a pleasant surprise next season playing with Lovett/Ponds.  Should get the ball where he can just catch and shoot.  I expect his 3 pt. percentage to top 40 next season.  Also think that Freudenberg, if spotted effectively, will be a solid outside threat. This team is going to need some drop dead shooters to implement CM's preferred style. Right now, Mussini and Freudenberg are our best options to fill that role.

This is the season for Mussini. He played out of position and too many minutes last year so hard to judge him fairly. This will be the year we will see what he can be for us. To get back on topic I would be happy to get Simon and Clark with either Kosta or Livingston rounding out the team

Who in the BE can Mussini get by? The problem wasn't that he was playing out of position. It's that he doesn't have a position. He's not a 2 guard either.

I agree Poison. His lack of foot speed and frame are major obstacles for him to be anything more then a mop up guy . He is a man without a position and there is no DH in this sport.

I think you guys are nuts with this Mussini stuff. The kid is an elite shooter and could have hit 40% as a frosh if he took less challenged shot and shots off the dribble. Most decent shooters only shoot between 15-20% on shots off the bounce and only an elite few can come close to 30%. Set shots are a different world. Plus, the kid can get in the lane at a good clip and that should improve with more talent and ball-handling to spread the floor around him. 

As for Simon, this is the kind of transfer situation that can turn a program around:  highly ranked nasty player that didn't get 5-star minutes do to LOADED backcourt with a top team. Paging Michael Gbinje (1.7 ppg as frosh at Duke).  When a kid like this becomes available, you go for it without thinking about your roster.

Settle down. Mussini missed a shit ton of open jumpers. He's got a lot of work to do, but he's not a starter at the BE level. I'm hoping for 12-15 minutes a game. He should be used like Max Hooper was. If he wants to get more time than that, he had better come back prepared.

Every player does, but you are exaggerating his misses in a big way and not giving him credit for the degree of difficulty he had to take with most of his shots, with no scoring or ball-handling around him.  It doesn't usually end well when freshmen average 6 treys a game. Only teams with elite ball movement and multiple scorin options could get a shooter 6 open, set shots a game. We weren't that team and he was on the ball most of the year to make it harder.

He shot over 86% from the ft line as a frosh--which has to be close to a record. 

Mussini was great from the line. No one can deny that. We gave a freshman with limited ball handling ability and defensive ability the task of running a team full of injury prone, lazy and flat out bad basketball players and asked him to run that offense. It certainly wasn't fair.

Next season, God willing, we'll have Marcus LoVett running the offense, and Shamorie Ponds spelling him when needed, followed by the occasional and hopefully rare site of Ellison running the point. Here's what needs to be figured out regarding Mussini: If Mullin starts LoVett, Ponds, Ahmed, Yakwe and Sima like many of us expect him to, when Mussini comes into the game, what position will he be playing?

Just because he isn't E. Barkley doesn't mean he has a "limited" handle. He is one of the most skilled players we've had here in my time as a fan, Syracuse made the final four with Trevor Cooney playing combo. Who was he breaking down regularly? I thought he was actually a big weakness for them earlier in his career, but he developed his body and improved his quickness. Mussini is a very similar player and will show it with more talent around him.

At the very least, he keeps defenses honest. They have to play up on him because he has range past the NBA line. That opens up the floor for guys like Ponds, Lovett, RF and Ahmed to go one-on-one. Defend Mussini with a two-guard and he can take them off the bounce. He'd be an awesome reserve guard 15 mpg if we landed Simon.  The kind of kid that doesn't let you catch your breath when the starters rest.

Cooney is a smart player, and I think Mussini is too. The biggest difference between the two of them is that Cooney showed up for his freshman season ready to play. He was physically strong enough. For whatever reason, Mussini wasn't strong enough to play ball in the states. Maybe he could have been a pro in Europe, and all that proves is what a sad excuse for pro ball they really have over there.

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"I dont see Mussini contributing down the road.    Maybe im wrong Mase.
Freudenberg could be something.   But i think hes a project.   Not expecting a lot right away."

Think that Mussini will be a pleasant surprise next season playing with Lovett/Ponds.  Should get the ball where he can just catch and shoot.  I expect his 3 pt. percentage to top 40 next season.  Also think that Freudenberg, if spotted effectively, will be a solid outside threat. This team is going to need some drop dead shooters to implement CM's preferred style. Right now, Mussini and Freudenberg are our best options to fill that role.

This is the season for Mussini. He played out of position and too many minutes last year so hard to judge him fairly. This will be the year we will see what he can be for us. To get back on topic I would be happy to get Simon and Clark with either Kosta or Livingston rounding out the team

Who in the BE can Mussini get by? The problem wasn't that he was playing out of position. It's that he doesn't have a position. He's not a 2 guard either.

I agree Poison. His lack of foot speed and frame are major obstacles for him to be anything more then a mop up guy . He is a man without a position and there is no DH in this sport.

I think you guys are nuts with this Mussini stuff. The kid is an elite shooter and could have hit 40% as a frosh if he took less challenged shot and shots off the dribble. Most decent shooters only shoot between 15-20% on shots off the bounce and only an elite few can come close to 30%. Set shots are a different world. Plus, the kid can get in the lane at a good clip and that should improve with more talent and ball-handling to spread the floor around him. 

As for Simon, this is the kind of transfer situation that can turn a program around:  highly ranked nasty player that didn't get 5-star minutes do to LOADED backcourt with a top team. Paging Michael Gbinje (1.7 ppg as frosh at Duke).  When a kid like this becomes available, you go for it without thinking about your roster.

Settle down. Mussini missed a shit ton of open jumpers. He's got a lot of work to do, but he's not a starter at the BE level. I'm hoping for 12-15 minutes a game. He should be used like Max Hooper was. If he wants to get more time than that, he had better come back prepared.

Every player does, but you are exaggerating his misses in a big way and not giving him credit for the degree of difficulty he had to take with most of his shots, with no scoring or ball-handling around him.  It doesn't usually end well when freshmen average 6 treys a game. Only teams with elite ball movement and multiple scorin options could get a shooter 6 open, set shots a game. We weren't that team and he was on the ball most of the year to make it harder.

He shot over 86% from the ft line as a frosh--which has to be close to a record. 

Mussini was great from the line. No one can deny that. We gave a freshman with limited ball handling ability and defensive ability the task of running a team full of injury prone, lazy and flat out bad basketball players and asked him to run that offense. It certainly wasn't fair.

Next season, God willing, we'll have Marcus LoVett running the offense, and Shamorie Ponds spelling him when needed, followed by the occasional and hopefully rare site of Ellison running the point. Here's what needs to be figured out regarding Mussini: If Mullin starts LoVett, Ponds, Ahmed, Yakwe and Sima like many of us expect him to, when Mussini comes into the game, what position will he be playing?

Just because he isn't E. Barkley doesn't mean he has a "limited" handle. He is one of the most skilled players we've had here in my time as a fan, Syracuse made the final four with Trevor Cooney playing combo. Who was he breaking down regularly? I thought he was actually a big weakness for them earlier in his career, but he developed his body and improved his quickness. Mussini is a very similar player and will show it with more talent around him.

At the very least, he keeps defenses honest. They have to play up on him because he has range past the NBA line. That opens up the floor for guys like Ponds, Lovett, RF and Ahmed to go one-on-one. Defend Mussini with a two-guard and he can take them off the bounce. He'd be an awesome reserve guard 15 mpg if we landed Simon.  The kind of kid that doesn't let you catch your breath when the starters rest.

Cooney is a smart player, and I think Mussini is too. The biggest difference between the two of them is that Cooney showed up for his freshman season ready to play. He was physically strong enough. For whatever reason, Mussini wasn't strong enough to play ball in the states. Maybe he could have been a pro in Europe, and all that proves is what a sad excuse for pro ball they really have over there.

Cooney also redshirted his first year.

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"I dont see Mussini contributing down the road.    Maybe im wrong Mase.
Freudenberg could be something.   But i think hes a project.   Not expecting a lot right away."

Think that Mussini will be a pleasant surprise next season playing with Lovett/Ponds.  Should get the ball where he can just catch and shoot.  I expect his 3 pt. percentage to top 40 next season.  Also think that Freudenberg, if spotted effectively, will be a solid outside threat. This team is going to need some drop dead shooters to implement CM's preferred style. Right now, Mussini and Freudenberg are our best options to fill that role.

This is the season for Mussini. He played out of position and too many minutes last year so hard to judge him fairly. This will be the year we will see what he can be for us. To get back on topic I would be happy to get Simon and Clark with either Kosta or Livingston rounding out the team

Who in the BE can Mussini get by? The problem wasn't that he was playing out of position. It's that he doesn't have a position. He's not a 2 guard either.

I agree Poison. His lack of foot speed and frame are major obstacles for him to be anything more then a mop up guy . He is a man without a position and there is no DH in this sport.

I think you guys are nuts with this Mussini stuff. The kid is an elite shooter and could have hit 40% as a frosh if he took less challenged shot and shots off the dribble. Most decent shooters only shoot between 15-20% on shots off the bounce and only an elite few can come close to 30%. Set shots are a different world. Plus, the kid can get in the lane at a good clip and that should improve with more talent and ball-handling to spread the floor around him. 

As for Simon, this is the kind of transfer situation that can turn a program around:  highly ranked nasty player that didn't get 5-star minutes do to LOADED backcourt with a top team. Paging Michael Gbinje (1.7 ppg as frosh at Duke).  When a kid like this becomes available, you go for it without thinking about your roster.

Settle down. Mussini missed a shit ton of open jumpers. He's got a lot of work to do, but he's not a starter at the BE level. I'm hoping for 12-15 minutes a game. He should be used like Max Hooper was. If he wants to get more time than that, he had better come back prepared.

Every player does, but you are exaggerating his misses in a big way and not giving him credit for the degree of difficulty he had to take with most of his shots, with no scoring or ball-handling around him.  It doesn't usually end well when freshmen average 6 treys a game. Only teams with elite ball movement and multiple scorin options could get a shooter 6 open, set shots a game. We weren't that team and he was on the ball most of the year to make it harder.

He shot over 86% from the ft line as a frosh--which has to be close to a record. 

Mussini was great from the line. No one can deny that. We gave a freshman with limited ball handling ability and defensive ability the task of running a team full of injury prone, lazy and flat out bad basketball players and asked him to run that offense. It certainly wasn't fair.

Next season, God willing, we'll have Marcus LoVett running the offense, and Shamorie Ponds spelling him when needed, followed by the occasional and hopefully rare site of Ellison running the point. Here's what needs to be figured out regarding Mussini: If Mullin starts LoVett, Ponds, Ahmed, Yakwe and Sima like many of us expect him to, when Mussini comes into the game, what position will he be playing?

Just because he isn't E. Barkley doesn't mean he has a "limited" handle. He is one of the most skilled players we've had here in my time as a fan, Syracuse made the final four with Trevor Cooney playing combo. Who was he breaking down regularly? I thought he was actually a big weakness for them earlier in his career, but he developed his body and improved his quickness. Mussini is a very similar player and will show it with more talent around him.

At the very least, he keeps defenses honest. They have to play up on him because he has range past the NBA line. That opens up the floor for guys like Ponds, Lovett, RF and Ahmed to go one-on-one. Defend Mussini with a two-guard and he can take them off the bounce. He'd be an awesome reserve guard 15 mpg if we landed Simon.  The kind of kid that doesn't let you catch your breath when the starters rest.

Cooney is a smart player, and I think Mussini is too. The biggest difference between the two of them is that Cooney showed up for his freshman season ready to play. He was physically strong enough. For whatever reason, Mussini wasn't strong enough to play ball in the states. Maybe he could have been a pro in Europe, and all that proves is what a sad excuse for pro ball they really have over there.

3 pts in 11 minutes a game. With less than one reb, asst, steal, blk a game with % of 32% from the field and 27% from 3 mind you this is all AFTER a redshirt year. And that is the one of the two who was ready? 

Let's get some signatures  this weekend staff !!!

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Quote from: Lycidas on April 14, 2016, 09:53:32 AM

"I dont see Mussini contributing down the road.    Maybe im wrong Mase.
Freudenberg could be something.   But i think hes a project.   Not expecting a lot right away."

Think that Mussini will be a pleasant surprise next season playing with Lovett/Ponds.  Should get the ball where he can just catch and shoot.  I expect his 3 pt. percentage to top 40 next season.  Also think that Freudenberg, if spotted effectively, will be a solid outside threat. This team is going to need some drop dead shooters to implement CM's preferred style. Right now, Mussini and Freudenberg are our best options to fill that role.

This is the season for Mussini. He played out of position and too many minutes last year so hard to judge him fairly. This will be the year we will see what he can be for us. To get back on topic I would be happy to get Simon and Clark with either Kosta or Livingston rounding out the team

Who in the BE can Mussini get by? The problem wasn't that he was playing out of position. It's that he doesn't have a position. He's not a 2 guard either.

I agree Poison. His lack of foot speed and frame are major obstacles for him to be anything more then a mop up guy . He is a man without a position and there is no DH in this sport.

I think you guys are nuts with this Mussini stuff. The kid is an elite shooter and could have hit 40% as a frosh if he took less challenged shot and shots off the dribble. Most decent shooters only shoot between 15-20% on shots off the bounce and only an elite few can come close to 30%. Set shots are a different world. Plus, the kid can get in the lane at a good clip and that should improve with more talent and ball-handling to spread the floor around him. 

As for Simon, this is the kind of transfer situation that can turn a program around:  highly ranked nasty player that didn't get 5-star minutes do to LOADED backcourt with a top team. Paging Michael Gbinje (1.7 ppg as frosh at Duke).  When a kid like this becomes available, you go for it without thinking about your roster.

Settle down. Mussini missed a shit ton of open jumpers. He's got a lot of work to do, but he's not a starter at the BE level. I'm hoping for 12-15 minutes a game. He should be used like Max Hooper was. If he wants to get more time than that, he had better come back prepared.

Every player does, but you are exaggerating his misses in a big way and not giving him credit for the degree of difficulty he had to take with most of his shots, with no scoring or ball-handling around him.  It doesn't usually end well when freshmen average 6 treys a game. Only teams with elite ball movement and multiple scorin options could get a shooter 6 open, set shots a game. We weren't that team and he was on the ball most of the year to make it harder.

He shot over 86% from the ft line as a frosh--which has to be close to a record. 

Mussini was great from the line. No one can deny that. We gave a freshman with limited ball handling ability and defensive ability the task of running a team full of injury prone, lazy and flat out bad basketball players and asked him to run that offense. It certainly wasn't fair.

Next season, God willing, we'll have Marcus LoVett running the offense, and Shamorie Ponds spelling him when needed, followed by the occasional and hopefully rare site of Ellison running the point. Here's what needs to be figured out regarding Mussini: If Mullin starts LoVett, Ponds, Ahmed, Yakwe and Sima like many of us expect him to, when Mussini comes into the game, what position will he be playing?

Just because he isn't E. Barkley doesn't mean he has a "limited" handle. He is one of the most skilled players we've had here in my time as a fan, Syracuse made the final four with Trevor Cooney playing combo. Who was he breaking down regularly? I thought he was actually a big weakness for them earlier in his career, but he developed his body and improved his quickness. Mussini is a very similar player and will show it with more talent around him.

At the very least, he keeps defenses honest. They have to play up on him because he has range past the NBA line. That opens up the floor for guys like Ponds, Lovett, RF and Ahmed to go one-on-one. Defend Mussini with a two-guard and he can take them off the bounce. He'd be an awesome reserve guard 15 mpg if we landed Simon.  The kind of kid that doesn't let you catch your breath when the starters rest.

Cooney is a smart player, and I think Mussini is too. The biggest difference between the two of them is that Cooney showed up for his freshman season ready to play. He was physically strong enough. For whatever reason, Mussini wasn't strong enough to play ball in the states. Maybe he could have been a pro in Europe, and all that proves is what a sad excuse for pro ball they really have over there.

3 pts in 11 minutes a game. With less than one reb, asst, steal, blk a game with % of 32% from the field and 27% from 3 mind you this is all AFTER a redshirt year. And that is the one of the two who was ready? 

Oh come on you and your facts.  It is more fun to create your own like a certain politician and support your Cooney reference by saying he is better because he scored thousands and thousands of points.

Oh come on you and your facts.  It is more fun to create your own like a certain politician and support your Cooney reference by saying he is better because he scored thousands and thousands of points.

By all mans get back to discussing the "fact" that a guy who shot 30 percent from the floor and was 10-49 from three over his last 12 games is an "elite shooter." And leave poor befuddled Barack Obama out of this, he has enough problems.

Thank you Matt for getting these guys to visit SJU.

Slice stop saying you are unhappy and get some recruits to visit.

Thank you Matt for getting these guys to visit SJU.

Slice stop saying you are unhappy and get some recruits to visit.

i think you should use some emoticons they may not be able to hear you.

Your right all I have heard from on this board is how the SJU graduate Matt is working his ass off.

Why is Slice unhappy

Why is Slice unhappy

Because Scheppy doesn't like him.  Hurting his feelings

Why is Slice unhappy

He wants his to be called "I am Barry hear me Rohrssen" not Slice

Pete 88 you just mad because I think Livingston should have a second chance and you cant stand him because he hit a cop

It would been alright to punch out a teammate but a cop who tasar him is like punching god according to you

Punching a cop shouldn't be any different than punching anybody he made a mistake and deserve a second chance

If they give people a second chance who punches out there wives which to me is a lot worse then hitting a cop.

Pete 88 you just mad because I think Livingston should have a second chance and you cant stand him because he hit a cop

It would been alright to punch out a teammate but a cop who tasar him is like punching god according to you

Punching a cop shouldn't be any different than punching anybody he made a mistake and deserve a second chance

If they give people a second chance who punches out there wives which to me is a lot worse then hitting a cop.

And this here, is what is wrong with this world today.