Amar Returns

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TONYD3

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Re: Amar Returns
« Reply #140 on: May 13, 2016, 10:18:57 PM »
Jones stinks.

His +/- was heavily -

The entire team's +- was heavily minus. Hence the one and seventeen record.

Yeah, so lets bring as many of those players back as possible, right?

Jones was 4th in scoring, 3rd in rebounding, 4th in assists, 3rd in steals, 2nd in FG percentage, and 3rd in 3 point shooting. He had two double doubles, scored in double figures 13 times and averaged 17 and 8 over his last four. Odd player to scapegoat for a historically bad season. Odd player to say "stinks" considering the shit basketball I watched last year.
Great Point, I think Jones looked especially good when Creighton beat us by 41. Many of your might have missed it since we were down 35 plus points at half, but Jones is a real game changer. The game I will most remember Jones is the Villinova game 2 years ago. Christian was able to lead the wildcats on huge late run. Wish he was coming back!

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« Reply #141 on: May 13, 2016, 10:28:13 PM »
It's not the NBA.  Shouldn't just cut kids because they aren't superstars.  Tough crowd for such a shitty program

I respectfully disagree here.

Flip, the coin to academic scholarships and these are not guaranteed for 4yrs.  If you don't perform in classroom with certain grades, that merit scholarship may be gone.  Just showing up for lectures, taking exams, and participating in group discussion doesn't cut it

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« Reply #142 on: May 13, 2016, 11:36:18 PM »
Right, but a person on a merit scholarship can up and transfer whenever they want.

An athlete on scholarship cant.  So they would be at a disadvantage if their scholarship wasn't guranteed. 

Re: Amar Returns
« Reply #143 on: May 13, 2016, 11:53:05 PM »
Amar-Jones, Jones-Amar, it really must be the off season. So many posts arguing about the 13th man. What a waste of all the trees it took to provide the paper these posts were written on.  ::)

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« Reply #144 on: May 14, 2016, 01:52:59 AM »
Amar-Jones, Jones-Amar, it really must be the off season. So many posts arguing about the 13th man. What a waste of all the trees it took to provide the paper these posts were written on.  ::)

We're talking about the back up front court to our stud sophomores. Neither of whom seem like they will be guys who stay out of foul trouble. Absolute best case scenario is Yakwe and Sima play 30 minutes each with no injuries. Would you rather Amar play 5-8 or Jones play 12-16? I think the answer is easy but like I said I am happy to have Amar back, rather him than an open spot.

Now talking about Obepka returning here for his senior season would be a waste of trees  ;)
« Last Edit: May 14, 2016, 01:54:51 AM by Amaseinyourface2 »
*wipes ketchup from his eyes* - I guess Heinz sight isn’t 20/20.

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« Reply #145 on: May 14, 2016, 05:37:47 AM »
Now talking about Obepka returning here for his senior season would be a waste of trees

Grass shirley.

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« Reply #146 on: May 14, 2016, 06:01:11 AM »
4th, 3rd and 3rd on a team that went 1-17. How is that anything but stinks for a junior on a team full of freshmen and terrible seniors? I'm not saying it was his fault for the bad season, but he certainly didn't make things any better

Good grief. The team won eight games. No one made anything better. It was all awful and except for Yawke they all sucked. That's why they lost all those games. Because it and they all sucked. If you expected dopey Christian Jones to lead an otherwise 8 win team to a 13 or 15 or 18 win season you're demented. And if that's the metric by which you measure this discussion - which is about whether this team next year could use as a 6'8" 220 pound senior power forward who shoots 50 percent from the floor as an 8th man - then that's an absurd metric. No one player would have made things any better last year, except maybe a point guard and probably not even that.

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« Reply #147 on: May 14, 2016, 04:57:29 PM »
Amar-Jones, Jones-Amar, it really must be the off season. So many posts arguing about the 13th man. What a waste of all the trees it took to provide the paper these posts were written on.  ::)

We're talking about the back up front court to our stud sophomores. Neither of whom seem like they will be guys who stay out of foul trouble. Absolute best case scenario is Yakwe and Sima play 30 minutes each with no injuries. Would you rather Amar play 5-8 or Jones play 12-16? I think the answer is easy but like I said I am happy to have Amar back, rather him than an open spot.


CJ Playing 12/16 minutes in his final year would do a lot to enhance his future job prospects.  Getting CJ to stay was never a option unless he was guaranteed a starting slot and 30 minutes per game.  I would prefer Amar playing 5 to 8 to that scenario.

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« Reply #148 on: May 14, 2016, 06:39:02 PM »
Who is going to pay Christian jones to play basketball?

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Re: Amar Returns
« Reply #149 on: May 14, 2016, 06:43:33 PM »
Who is going to pay Christian jones to play basketball?

Marshall Henderson plays in Iraq, or he did recently as least. There are country with leagues that might take Jones, but which ones?

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« Reply #150 on: May 14, 2016, 07:23:01 PM »
Now talking about Obepka returning here for his senior season would be a waste of trees

Grass shirley.
And stop calling me Shirley

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« Reply #151 on: May 14, 2016, 08:42:56 PM »
Who is going to pay Christian jones to play basketball?

The same people who payed Dele Coker to play basketball. Are you really this ignorant or do you just pretend? Because you don't seem smart enough to pretend to be as stupid as you act.

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« Reply #152 on: May 14, 2016, 08:57:36 PM »
Who is going to pay Christian jones to play basketball?

The same people who payed Dele Coker to play basketball. Are you really this ignorant or do you just pretend? Because you don't seem smart enough to pretend to be as stupid as you act.

Diddo
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TONYD3

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« Reply #153 on: May 14, 2016, 09:47:23 PM »
Who is going to pay Christian Jones to play basketball?

The same people who payed Dele Coker to play basketball. Are you really this ignorant or do you just pretend? Because you don't seem smart enough to pretend to be as stupid as you act.

Diddo
I knew that was coming. Since Foady implied that Jones was a scapegoat and was looking to fight, Only to back track this morning because he didn't check his facts.  I was unaware that Dele Coker got paid to play basketball. That makes me stupid? Mase- U seem like a great fan. I am plenty loyal also. Players have to earn loyalty. I don't understand your connection and love for last years team. Wishing these guy to be great or even good won't make it so. Stating Sima and yawke are all big est defenders has some truth if you look at their stats. Not if you watch them play. Yawke is a good defender who can be great. Sima is not a good defender currently. He is slow and not strong enough. He is a  promising soon to be sophomore.  Hopefully he can be great. Me thinking that makes me stupid?
I believe Yakwe will be very good if not great. I think Sima could be Lamont Hamilton, maybe a little better. Expecting more then that is a alot in my opinion. I am not a big fan of the rest of the roster. I hope they prove me wrong. 
I like Steve Lavin for his first season, and D' lo, Pointer and Greene. I don't like lavin for Marco, max, felix, Jones, and Amar. Weird to me that the Lavin haters, love felix, Jones, and Amar.
I am thrilled with the new players coming in. I am happy with the 2 transfers. I was unhappy with bringing back Amar. Mase- Why do you like him? we could give 2 walkons his scholarship to split. I am sure they are great team mates
I don't have complete faith in the staff. They have to earn it. Why is that stupid?

Re: Amar Returns
« Reply #154 on: May 15, 2016, 01:04:01 AM »
It's not the NBA.  Shouldn't just cut kids because they aren't superstars.  Tough crowd for such a shitty program

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Re: Amar Returns
« Reply #155 on: May 15, 2016, 01:13:03 AM »
Amar-Jones, Jones-Amar, it really must be the off season. So many posts arguing about the 13th man. 

Da Ali B isn't going to be the 13th man.  He's going to play more than walkon minutes.

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Re: Amar Returns
« Reply #156 on: May 15, 2016, 01:20:26 AM »
Amar-Jones, Jones-Amar, it really must be the off season. So many posts arguing about the 13th man. 

Da Ali B isn't going to be the 13th man.  He's going to play more than walkon minutes.

Scary

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« Reply #157 on: May 15, 2016, 09:07:24 AM »
Who is going to pay Christian jones to play basketball?
Amar

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Re: Amar Returns
« Reply #158 on: May 15, 2016, 09:51:17 AM »
Amar-Jones, Jones-Amar, it really must be the off season. So many posts arguing about the 13th man. 

Da Ali B isn't going to be the 13th man.  He's going to play more than walkon minutes.

He's actually the 10th or 11th man since we have two players immediately who can't play this year.
Remember who broke the Slice news

Foad

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Re: Amar Returns
« Reply #159 on: May 15, 2016, 10:32:59 AM »
I was unaware that Dele Coker got paid to play basketball. That makes me stupid?

No. Not only doesn't that make you stupid, that doesn't even follow. I could have picked anyone's name and whether you knew or didn't know whether that particular individual played BB professionally, it wouldn't change anything about you and particularly the fact that you are singularly uncharitable when you talk about these college students. And now I'm going to explain why that's particularly troubling in your case. Since you asked and all.

It's because you're allegedly a teacher. If I weren't a complete misanthrope I'd find that circumstance horrifying. However, hoping as I do that the world ends and everyone dies in a painful terrifying Armageddon, I just think it's funny and hope that everyone else's children are getting from you the education they deserve and hope that you're giving it to them good and hard. But understand: if I had the misfortune to have a child and my child had the misfortune to have you as a teacher I'd slit your throat and not lose a moment's sleep.

Because you do not seem to have the vaguest understanding of why there is an education system. You do not seem to understand that these players are children and that children can learn and the education system is there to help them do so. You do not seem to appreciate the value of experience, discipline and scholarship. You do not seem to understand that these players are young people trying to improve themselves and make sense of the world and become happy productive human beings and that the university's role in the community is to help them do that.

Instead, you talk about the players like they're fungible resources who have to earn your respect and loyalty based upon their FG percentage: otherwise you hope this one gets recruited over and that one loses his scholarship and the other one transfers and the fourth gets buried on the bench. Your most fervent hope is that they fail. And why? So that this stupid team wins enough games so that you can walk around the mall with your SJ cap proudly displayed at a jaunty angle. Your attitude towards these students - some of whom come from circumstances that would make you shit your pants if you found yourself similarly situated - is appalling and displays a dearth of character that makes even my skin crawl.

I anticipate your response. Foad you will say, you have an entire website devoted to talking shit about Saint John's and over the past several years have written tens of thousands of words disparaging the university and the program and everything about it. Isn't this screed a tad hypocritical? Yes, perhaps. But in the first place you would be hard pressed to find in anything I've written anywhere that wished ill upon anyone, much less a student athlete. That is, I might have mocked Lavin as a bobblehead but I never wished that his cancer returned so he had to retire. I mocked Jamal Branch's ineptitude for three years but I never cheered when his injuries forced him to the bench. I don't hope that Mussini slinks back to Italy with his tail between his legs because he's a lousy three point shooter and couldn't defend a pillar. Rather, I hope he improves at basketball and if he doesn't at least in the meanwhile takes advantage of the opportunities he has otherwise been afforded by virtue of his scholarship. I never wished for people to fail or suffer, I just reveled in their failures and suffering. And in the second place, I hate everyone and everything and am what can at best be described charitably as a #$%^ing a rear of a donkey. What's your excuse?