Zach Brown - C - Miami, FL

Old timers, who's the best Johnnies center of all time?

Quote from: QuanMan on July 28, 2016, 10:47:48 AM

Old timers, who's the best Johnnies center of all time?

I resent your ageism, but after Paul Berwanger no doubt it was LeRoy Ellis.

I would rank the centers thus:
1. Leroy Ellis- Before my time, but Coach C also rated him the best Center.
2. Mel Davis- For one season.  Should have been a PF, but beggars cannot be choosy.

6'6" - probably a 2 guard today

3. Jayson Williams- His junior year.

i was looking forward o his senior year, another in a long line of disappointments

3. A.. Bill Wennington- Once he got rid of the crew cut, he had a super solid career.

but for ewing who knows how'd he'd be remembered, which is as a canadian gollumpus

4. Rob Werdann- Solid four years.

Nothing about Werdann was solid, he was made of Tissue paper

5. Billy Paultz- An over achiever to the "n" degree.

the first in a long line of LWG (lou's white golems)

6. Z Hamilton- Like Felipe, solid, but more was expected.

Underrated

7. S. Scott- Another PF playing out of position.

Underrated

8. Wayne McCoy-  Solid, but another C who more was expected from.

bust

9. All the Cs I left out.

I would rank the centers thus:
1. Leroy Ellis- Before my time, but Coach C also rated him the best Center.
2. Mel Davis- For one season.  Should have been a PF, but beggars cannot be choosy.
3. Jayson Williams- His junior year.
3. A.. Bill Wennington- Once he got rid of the crew cut, he had a super solid career.
4. Rob Werdann- Solid four years.
5. Billy Paultz- An over achiever to the "n" degree.
6. Z Hamilton- Like Felipe, solid, but more was expected.
7. S. Scott- Another PF playing out of position.
8. Wayne McCoy-  Solid, but another C who more was expected from.
9. All the Cs I left out.

I'll show my lack of time depth. Lamont Hamilton? Is he in the mix?

I thought Zendon was top 5 to 10 recruit

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on July 28, 2016, 04:28:16 PM

I thought Zendon was top 5 to 10 recruit

Top 5, although I don't think it was quite as scientific as it is nowadays

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/camron-was-ranked-top-25-class-94-high-school-rankings

Werdann was a MD AA along with 20 ther players including Malik Sealy, Billy Owens, Alonzo Mourning, Xtian Laettner, Shawn Kemp and Laphonso Ellis

http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/mcdonalds/rosters/1988

Quote from: braintrust on July 27, 2016, 06:05:06 PM

I don't know if its worth putting Dom and Reggie Jessie in a greatest center at St Johns conversation

And the Winner for Understatement of the Year goes to Braintrust, for "I don't know if its worth putting Dom and Reggie Jessie in a greatest center at St Johns conversation."

Seriously though, the name missing from that list is Paul Berwanger. And no Sean Muto? No Baldi? No Bayne? No Keita? Young people are shamefully unaware of the great history of this once proud program.

Quote from: Foad on July 28, 2016, 04:38:31 PM

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on July 28, 2016, 04:28:16 PM

I thought Zendon was top 5 to 10 recruit

Top 5, although I don't think it was quite as scientific as it is nowadays

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/camron-was-ranked-top-25-class-94-high-school-rankings

Werdann was a MD AA along with 20 ther players including Malik Sealy, Billy Owens, Alonzo Mourning, Xtian Laettner, Shawn Kemp and Laphonso Ellis

http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/mcdonalds/rosters/1988

And piggy backing my own post Wayne McKoy was probably the #1 player in his class, projected as an NBA lock out of HS

Quote from: Gumby on July 28, 2016, 11:29:26 AM

I would rank the centers thus:
1. Leroy Ellis- Before my time, but Coach C also rated him the best Center.
2. Mel Davis- For one season.  Should have been a PF, but beggars cannot be choosy.

6'6" - probably a 2 guard today

3. Jayson Williams- His junior year.

i was looking forward o his senior year, another in a long line of disappointments

3. A.. Bill Wennington- Once he got rid of the crew cut, he had a super solid career.

but for ewing who knows how'd he'd be remembered, which is as a canadian gollumpus

4. Rob Werdann- Solid four years.

Nothing about Werdann was solid, he was made of Tissue paper

5. Billy Paultz- An over achiever to the "n" degree.

the first in a long line of LWG (lou's white golems)

6. Z Hamilton- Like Felipe, solid, but more was expected.

Underrated

7. S. Scott- Another PF playing out of position.

Underrated

8. Wayne McCoy-  Solid, but another C who more was expected from.

bust

9. All the Cs I left out.

Quote from: Foad on July 28, 2016, 12:17:04 PM

Quote from: Gumby on July 28, 2016, 11:29:26 AM

I would rank the centers thus:
1. Leroy Ellis- Before my time, but Coach C also rated him the best Center.
2. Mel Davis- For one season.  Should have been a PF, but beggars cannot be choosy.

6'6" - probably a 2 guard today

3. Jayson Williams- His junior year.

i was looking forward o his senior year, another in a long line of disappointments

3. A.. Bill Wennington- Once he got rid of the crew cut, he had a super solid career.

but for ewing who knows how'd he'd be remembered, which is as a canadian gollumpus

4. Rob Werdann- Solid four years.

Nothing about Werdann was solid, he was made of Tissue paper

5. Billy Paultz- An over achiever to the "n" degree.

the first in a long line of LWG (lou's white golems)

6. Z Hamilton- Like Felipe, solid, but more was expected.

Underrated

7. S. Scott- Another PF playing out of position.

Underrated

8. Wayne McCoy-  Solid, but another C who more was expected from.

bust

9. All the Cs I left out.

I could be mistaken but Werdann was in my class and I think it was only his senior year that he missed  a lot of time. If anything he just never put up big scoring numbers. Maybe averaging low double digits and didnt progress that much maybe but I think year 1-3 he had steady rebound numbers ( maybe 7  a game ). I don't remember the scoring numbers but I think it was double digits but that was a lot of beers ago so I'm foggy on that

I could be mistaken but Werdann was in my class and I think it was only his senior year that he missed  a lot of time. If anything he just never put up big scoring numbers. Maybe averaging low double digits and didnt progress that much maybe but I think year 1-3 he had steady rebound numbers ( maybe 7  a game ). I don't remember the scoring numbers but I think it was double digits but that was a lot of beers ago so I'm foggy on that