Game 11: LIU

You guys sound like a bunch of pu$$ies...let the season play out.
I expected a winning season in mullins 2nd year. We have the talent to do it. 5-6 is horrendous. But lets see what this team is made of with conference play coming.

We need to stop candy coating this. THIS is an embarrassment to our program.  I do not see us beating Penn State or even taking 1 from DePaul if this is the effort that is given. 

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Quote from: Johnny23 on December 11, 2016, 04:47:50 PM

It's ugly right now but let's see if it gets any better. The defense really let us down today. They didn't get any stops and let LIU control momentum for almost the entire game. Also some coaching decisions in the closing minutes left a lot to be desired.

Not going to get better. Now we play real teams. We are going to play against real coaches, real athletes, and real defense.

Oh now we play real teams?

Happy to know every team we've played so far is fake.

No most of them sucked

Other than Delaware St and LIU who did we lose to that we should have beat?

Old dominion sucks. VCU isn't great. Minnesota isn't good. Losing to some is fine. They are decent teams. But losing to all is terrible.

The disappointing thing in all these losses is lack of intensity, adjustments, and lineups/decisions down stretch.

There are offensive/defensive sub opportunities, can switch up defense, run something for your playmakers to get shots. I think this is where the lack of experience on coaching staff really hurts. I think the bench coaches St. Jean and Richmond are terrific basketball minds but it's hard to tap this/that when you haven't been through it on the pine. Like Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.

An experienced coach is better equipped to handle a lead/deficit, knows when to switch up a defense, how to handle a slumping player, and has a play for a number of different scenarios a game can throw at you.

The disappointing thing in all these losses is lack of intensity, adjustments, and lineups/decisions down stretch.

There are offensive/defensive sub opportunities, can switch up defense, run something for your playmakers to get shots. I think this is where the lack of experience on coaching staff really hurts. I think the bench coaches St. Jean and Richmond are terrific basketball minds but it's hard to tap this/that when you haven't been through it on the pine. Like Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.

An experienced coach is better equipped to handle a lead/deficit, knows when to switch up a defense, how to handle a slumping player, and has a play for a number of different scenarios a game can throw at you.

Tough loss. Couldn't get stops today when we needed them.

Quote from: friendofjohnnie on December 11, 2016, 07:30:31 PM

We need to stop candy coating this. THIS is an embarrassment to our program.  I do not see us beating Penn State or even taking 1 from DePaul if this is the effort that is given. 

It's bad but I wouldn't call it embarrassing. Incarnate Word was embarrassing.

Overall this season has been disappointing. Team is better than what they're showing.

The disappointing thing in all these losses is lack of intensity, adjustments, and lineups/decisions down stretch.

There are offensive/defensive sub opportunities, can switch up defense, run something for your playmakers to get shots. I think this is where the lack of experience on coaching staff really hurts. I think the bench coaches St. Jean and Richmond are terrific basketball minds but it's hard to tap this/that when you haven't been through it on the pine. Like Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.

An experienced coach is better equipped to handle a lead/deficit, knows when to switch up a defense, how to handle a slumping player, and has a play for a number of different scenarios a game can throw at you.

Quote from: Poison on December 11, 2016, 03:07:38 PM

POS program.

Agree.  I watched football during the second half.  It's not even a big deal when I miss games.

The disappointing thing in all these losses is lack of intensity, adjustments, and lineups/decisions down stretch.

There are offensive/defensive sub opportunities, can switch up defense, run something for your playmakers to get shots. I think this is where the lack of experience on coaching staff really hurts. I think the bench coaches St. Jean and Richmond are terrific basketball minds but it's hard to tap this/that when you haven't been through it on the pine. Like Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.

An experienced coach is better equipped to handle a lead/deficit, knows when to switch up a defense, how to handle a slumping player, and has a play for a number of different scenarios a game can throw at you.

Quote from: Dave on December 11, 2016, 09:28:35 PM

The disappointing thing in all these losses is lack of intensity, adjustments, and lineups/decisions down stretch.

There are offensive/defensive sub opportunities, can switch up defense, run something for your playmakers to get shots. I think this is where the lack of experience on coaching staff really hurts. I think the bench coaches St. Jean and Richmond are terrific basketball minds but it's hard to tap this/that when you haven't been through it on the pine. Like Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.

An experienced coach is better equipped to handle a lead/deficit, knows when to switch up a defense, how to handle a slumping player, and has a play for a number of different scenarios a game can throw at you.

I'm starting to wonder if Mullin is intentionally not making some of these changes, really trying to get everyone to somewhat master his desired program and then start to mix in new schemes.

I agree that our offense is pretty good and that the defense is really holding us back. That being said, I still fully expect things to click at some point over the next month or so and turn in a borderline NIT season.

The disappointing thing in all these losses is lack of intensity, adjustments, and lineups/decisions down stretch.

There are offensive/defensive sub opportunities, can switch up defense, run something for your playmakers to get shots. I think this is where the lack of experience on coaching staff really hurts. I think the bench coaches St. Jean and Richmond are terrific basketball minds but it's hard to tap this/that when you haven't been through it on the pine. Like Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.

An experienced coach is better equipped to handle a lead/deficit, knows when to switch up a defense, how to handle a slumping player, and has a play for a number of different scenarios a game can throw at you.

Quote from: Dave on December 11, 2016, 09:28:35 PM

The disappointing thing in all these losses is lack of intensity, adjustments, and lineups/decisions down stretch.

There are offensive/defensive sub opportunities, can switch up defense, run something for your playmakers to get shots. I think this is where the lack of experience on coaching staff really hurts. I think the bench coaches St. Jean and Richmond are terrific basketball minds but it's hard to tap this/that when you haven't been through it on the pine. Like Mike Tyson said everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face.

An experienced coach is better equipped to handle a lead/deficit, knows when to switch up a defense, how to handle a slumping player, and has a play for a number of different scenarios a game can throw at you.

Agreed and that can be fixed.  I'm not mad but a disappointed.

All I want to hear from Coach is that this is on him, he knows it and he will fix it.  He's not going anywhere so it is useless to discuss nonsense like that.

Quote from: Johnny23 on December 11, 2016, 02:42:27 PM

Tough loss. Couldn't get stops today when we needed them.

More to the point, we don't ever seem to work hard to get stops and never, ever deny passing lanes.

On the flip side, guys like Ellison are so predictable that defenders routinely jump the passing lanes

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Quote from: Johnny23 on December 11, 2016, 02:42:27 PM

Tough loss. Couldn't get stops today when we needed them.

More to the point, we don't ever seem to work hard to get stops and never, ever deny passing lanes.

On the flip side, guys like Ellison are so predictable that defenders routinely jump the passing lanes

If our big men provided anything, Ahmed's contribution would be fine. He has nice shooting form and when he doesn't force shots, he is good.

Unfortunately, given limited production, we need him to be able to get to the rim more effectively - and he doesn't seem to be able to without having to force an out of control, off balance shot.

Yeah Ellison is pretty predictable much of the time when he dishes off on his drives. Ahmed is going to get a good amount of charges called on him in BE play if he's not more careful and under control on his drives. On defense they need to get in better position to take offensive fouls.