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Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 12:45:27 PM

As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role 

Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.

You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju  is a good man

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 12:45:27 PM

As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role 

Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.

Don't read it, I don't normally read your posts or I would be able to accurately discuss what you bring to any conversation. I do think it is funny when simpleton's decree a post useless than take time out of their busy day to comment on said useless post. What then does that say about your post criticizing the usefulness of another post?
For their talent level, people spend way to much time discussing our 7 th, 8th and 9th men. Max Hooper had a 100 threads and so did the Marco kid whose name I can't be bothered to remember. And yes it is because some people would like to be able to root for a white kid. Judging by your reaction you might be one of those people.

Quote from: QuanMan on December 22, 2016, 02:18:26 PM

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 12:45:27 PM

As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role 

Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.

You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju  is a good man

They would have struggled mightily on old BEB

Ellison has looked much better lately I must admit. As long as he stays under control and doesn't try to force things by making silly passes or turnovers then he should be a valuable piece to this team.

Rich is getting more comfortable every game as expected. His next step is to be more consistent from deep and convert at a higher rate driving to the hoop. The confidence is building and you see more glimpses of his talent every time out.

He still makes those long cross court passes which are easily picked

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 12:45:27 PM

As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role 

I will continue to root for all of our white players. Seriously though really wish you would get off this race BS.

Half if it is to bust balls, but honestly do you think the combined talent of RF, Mussini and Amar equates to the number of times they are mentioned on these boards? Owens is way better than Amar, but who do you think has more threads about him? Why do you think that is exactly. In fact I bet there are more Mussini threads and mentions than Ponds. It is really hard to take anyone serious about basketball related stuff when they are constantly pimping guys at the end of the bench. If someone is going to post RF should play more and Ahmed should be benched-yes that has been posted, then how can you rationally challenge that?
It is either a Black vs White thing or someone is just really stupid thing?

Root for all the players the same regardless of the race.
I say something about Baldi - Celtics - comes down hard on me.
But somebody says something about race -its funny and nobody says anything

Maybe if you stopped playing the victim and making everything about yourself you would have less to complain about. My post had zero to do with you. And hey, Baldi just called me out so F Baldi. Happy now?

We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on.  It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on December 22, 2016, 02:23:21 PM

Quote from: QuanMan on December 22, 2016, 02:18:26 PM

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 12:45:27 PM

As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role 

Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.

You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju  is a good man

They would have struggled mightily on old BEB

When men were men.

I'm concerned our shooting percentages are due to fall precipitiously.

Ellison for example was barely a 50% foul shooter last season.(I think 53%)  Now, he shoots better than 40% from three? 

Seems to me there is a regression to the mean coming up.

We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on.  It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.

Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on December 22, 2016, 02:23:21 PM

Quote from: QuanMan on December 22, 2016, 02:18:26 PM

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 12:45:27 PM

As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role 

Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.

You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju  is a good man

They would have struggled mightily on old BEB

That place was literally the Wild West of the internet. Those were fun times with people throwing verbal bombs at each other every day

Quote from: desco80 on December 22, 2016, 02:42:21 PM

We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on.  It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.

Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.

You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.

If we don't tighten up the defense, in those games, you will see more of the Penn St. result unless our guys become more effective at scoring near the basket/foul line in, whether in the half court or transition.  Maybe Ahmed develops into a more effective scorer from the foul line in, where I think he can be effective.  Maybe Freudenberg can show a bit of that later in the year?  Maybe Ponds, Lovett and Ellison take the ball more into the lane when the shots aren't falling?  Or maybe we defend/rebound a bit and get out on the break.  Right now, this team lives and dies by the 3.  I think we can win some games that way because we have much better shooters on this team than the past (even if Ellison regresses to the mean, I think Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and Mussini can knock down shots from that range at a decent clip, and perhaps Freudenberg starts to as well). 

I'm concerned our shooting percentages are due to fall precipitiously.

Ellison for example was barely a 50% foul shooter last season.(I think 53%)  Now, he shoots better than 40% from three? 

Seems to me there is a regression to the mean coming up.

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 02:54:22 PM

Quote from: desco80 on December 22, 2016, 02:42:21 PM

We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on.  It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.

Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.

You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.

Dude. Find you safe space and chill

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 02:54:22 PM

Quote from: desco80 on December 22, 2016, 02:42:21 PM

We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on.  It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.

Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.

You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.

Yes that is what I did. Are you 7 years old?
That was what we call a joke Shirley.
For your benefit allow me to recap. Yes I think some on here are overly invested in the three white guys.  They get brought up way more than their talent dictates. And honestly to each his own. You like white guys, black guys, chicks with dicks, whatever. My point is it is hard to have a rational basketball discussion with people who aren't being honest with themselves. No RF is not better than Ahmad and Mussini is probably our 4th best guard. So I joke about the race thing and people who know deep down they are that guy get mad.

Now in your case I just think everything went over your head and you are just not that bright.

Quote from: prjohnnies on December 22, 2016, 12:21:13 PM

Mussini is not Hooper.  Mussini can do far more than Hooper could.  Yes, Mussini is a weak defender, but he can handle the ball, get his shot off the dribble (though not regularly against quicker/bigger comp, at this point), and operate within the flow of an offense. 

Lavin didn't know how to use Hooper and I don't think most major conference teams could find a role for Hooper.  He fared better against mid major comp and playing with a PG who was a really good college player and could control the game at that level so that Hooper was able to get/make open looks, which outweighed the fact that he was a liability on defense and didn't bring anything else to the table.

There is a role for Mussini.  He is a streak shooter, like most, and when he's making shots off the bat he could be in the game and the team should find ways to get him looks.  When he comes out misfiring, he should head back to the bench until the team needs a burst or the opponent plays zone.

Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and now even Ellison are all shooting 40 percent plus from three and all of them bring something else to the table. What do we need a fifth shooter for, one who brings nothing else to the table?

He brings good ball movement to the table and is a better pure shooter than anyone on the team.  When he is in he attracts attention because of his shooting ability which leaves More area for the other 3 guard to penetrate.  He is now the 4th guard thanks to Ellison's suddenly playing more intelligently but he will still get minutes via 3 guard offense and Elllsion playing the 3.  Id like to see him playing around 15 a game, more if he comes out hot. 

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 02:26:16 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on December 22, 2016, 02:23:21 PM

Quote from: QuanMan on December 22, 2016, 02:18:26 PM

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 12:45:27 PM

As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role 

Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.

You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju  is a good man

They would have struggled mightily on old BEB

That place was literally the Wild West of the internet. Those were fun times with people throwing verbal bombs at each other every day

We were "lucky" to have Norm to kick around relentlessly...

Quote from: Johnny23 on December 22, 2016, 10:25:24 AM

Ellison has looked much better lately I must admit. As long as he stays under control and doesn't try to force things by making silly passes or turnovers then he should be a valuable piece to this team.

Rich is getting more comfortable every game as expected. His next step is to be more consistent from deep and convert at a higher rate driving to the hoop. The confidence is building and you see more glimpses of his talent every time out.

He still makes those long cross court passes which are easily picked

That is why I said as long as he doesn't make those silly passes which he has been prone to do. Get rid of those and be more controlled on his drives and he can be something for us.

Quote from: QuanMan on December 22, 2016, 03:14:21 PM

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 02:54:22 PM

Quote from: desco80 on December 22, 2016, 02:42:21 PM

We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on.  It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.

Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.

You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.

Yes that is what I did. Are you 7 years old?
That was what we call a joke Shirley.
For your benefit allow me to recap. Yes I think some on here are overly invested in the three white guys.  They get brought up way more than their talent dictates. And honestly to each his own. You like white guys, black guys, chicks with dicks, whatever. My point is it is hard to have a rational basketball discussion with people who aren't being honest with themselves. No RF is not better than Ahmad and Mussini is probably our 4th best guard. So I joke about the race thing and people who know deep down they are that guy get mad.

Now in your case I just think everything went over your head and you are just not that bright.

If you're just joking and trolling people within these boards then I'm cool w that. Still a ridiculous post. I didn't know where you were coming from, you're just being a troll, moving on. 

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 03:29:01 PM

Quote from: QuanMan on December 22, 2016, 03:14:21 PM

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2016, 02:54:22 PM

Quote from: desco80 on December 22, 2016, 02:42:21 PM

We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on.  It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.

Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.

You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.

Yes that is what I did. Are you 7 years old?
That was what we call a joke Shirley.
For your benefit allow me to recap. Yes I think some on here are overly invested in the three white guys.  They get brought up way more than their talent dictates. And honestly to each his own. You like white guys, black guys, chicks with dicks, whatever. My point is it is hard to have a rational basketball discussion with people who aren't being honest with themselves. No RF is not better than Ahmad and Mussini is probably our 4th best guard. So I joke about the race thing and people who know deep down they are that guy get mad.

Now in your case I just think everything went over your head and you are just not that bright.

If you're just joking and trolling people within these boards then I'm cool w that. Still a ridiculous post. I didn't know where you were coming from, you're just being a troll, moving on. 

Guy, if you are going to take the time to respond to a post read it carefully. Would also help if you have read said poster's previous posts. I was making a joke AT THE EXPENSE OF the people on these boards that are pushing RF, Mussini and Amar based on the fact that they are white. I was not advocating rooting for someone based on skin color. The opposite in fact.

So basically people got mad at me for calling them racist and you took my joke seriously and accused me of being what I was making fun of others for. WE ARE SJU