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Re: Syracuse
« Reply #160 on: December 21, 2016, 11:17:09 PM »
No question that they will continue the series. It's in the Garden next year and, frankly, they , like us,  have a lot of real sportsmen running the ship.  They wont quit nor will we.  Tonight was lousy basketball but the games with them are almost always classics.

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« Reply #161 on: December 21, 2016, 11:17:26 PM »
I was out dining in a restaurant, but the game was on a TV above my head.  The decimation of the Cuse became funny, as I laughed out loud a handful of times.  That was a thorough, ass-beating. 

It would be even better, if tonight's win could catapult this group.  I doubt it, but it would be fun if that were to occur. 

Why do you doubt it? Isn't the point of the pre-season to get ready for the real one? Season is alive again. Enjoy it.

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« Reply #162 on: December 21, 2016, 11:19:44 PM »
I was out dining in a restaurant, but the game was on a TV above my head.  The decimation of the Cuse became funny, as I laughed out loud a handful of times.  That was a thorough, ass-beating. 

It would be even better, if tonight's win could catapult this group.  I doubt it, but it would be fun if that were to occur. 

Why do you doubt it? Isn't the point of the pre-season to get ready for the real one? Season is alive again. Enjoy it.

I'll believe it when I see it.  Regardless, tonight's game was enjoyable.

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« Reply #163 on: December 21, 2016, 11:21:03 PM »
"New York's College Team"  my a$$.  Memo to Syracuse:   How's that ACC thing working out so far.

They went to the Final Four last April.   Two Final Fours in the 4 seasons they've been in the ACC.   So... yea I think they're doing OK in their new conference.
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« Reply #164 on: December 21, 2016, 11:22:15 PM »
WHere are the pessimists today?  The process seems to be working.  Particularly like the distribution of minutes today with everyone contributing.  When Mussini and Amar are back the starters will play a little less which will be a positive.  GREAT WIN, I'm smelling some BE wins.  Butler will be interesting.

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« Reply #165 on: December 21, 2016, 11:31:51 PM »
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.

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« Reply #166 on: December 21, 2016, 11:36:42 PM »
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.

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« Reply #167 on: December 21, 2016, 11:41:34 PM »
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.

How can a team who lost to an extremely mediocre Georgetown team and a crappy UConn team overlook anybody?  Frankly, the "overlook" term is trite, and player and fan speak.  I do agree Syracuse isn't worth a damn, but I doubt they overlooked us.

The other day, I said something is off with this particular Syracuse team.  Who cares?!  It's their problem.  We whipped their ass tonight, and it was enjoyable to watch. 
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« Reply #168 on: December 21, 2016, 11:43:31 PM »
WHere are the pessimists today?  The process seems to be working.  Particularly like the distribution of minutes today with everyone contributing.  When Mussini and Amar are back the starters will play a little less which will be a positive.  GREAT WIN, I'm smelling some BE wins.  Butler will be interesting.
Hey we all hope we go on to bigger and better things. But why call people out? How's this for pessimism-last year after throttling the Cuse we went like 1-4,672. Let's just all hope things are different this year. Besides it Christmas time!

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« Reply #169 on: December 21, 2016, 11:50:45 PM »
WHere are the pessimists today?  The process seems to be working.  Particularly like the distribution of minutes today with everyone contributing.  When Mussini and Amar are back the starters will play a little less which will be a positive.  GREAT WIN, I'm smelling some BE wins.  Butler will be interesting.

Pessimists or realists?

Either way, most of the same people have been posting

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« Reply #170 on: December 22, 2016, 12:03:34 AM »
Funny how much better the team looks when the ball goes through the net. Great win tonight. I just hope we tone down the staff can't coach talk. It's a young team and we still have holes to fill, but this is a system players will want to play in. 

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« Reply #171 on: December 22, 2016, 12:05:20 AM »
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation.  Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence.  This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.

I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation.  There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team.  We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.

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« Reply #172 on: December 22, 2016, 12:30:24 AM »
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.

So if St. John's loses it's because they stink. If they win it's because other team stinks. You need to watch a Christmas Carol.
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« Reply #173 on: December 22, 2016, 12:33:56 AM »
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.

That's absolutely inaccurate. Every time they punched we punched back, and then when it was time we ran them out of their own gym.

Breakthrough game for Rich, expect him to improve even more over BE season. We all have seen this in his game since his 20 pt barrage in the scrimmage.

Malik's ascension from his injury last year to this point has been fun to watch. 22 against Penn St. and now his best all around game as a Johnnie tonight.

Over Malik's last 5 games : 13 ppg, 4.4 apg, 3.2 rpg while shooting 56% from the field.

Lastly, it feels great to be in the midst of a 3 year winning streak over Syracuse. Each win tastes better. Slowly but surely, we're coming along.
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« Reply #174 on: December 22, 2016, 12:33:58 AM »
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation.  Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence.  This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.

I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation.  There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team.  We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.

To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.

Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
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« Reply #175 on: December 22, 2016, 05:34:47 AM »
I was out dining in a restaurant, but the game was on a TV above my head. 

If you were in a restaurant and there was a TV above your head you weren't dining, you were eating.

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« Reply #176 on: December 22, 2016, 05:38:00 AM »
In 6 games in December, Ellison is averaging ~12-4-3 while shooting 54% from the field and 61% from 3 (11-18)

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« Reply #177 on: December 22, 2016, 06:48:20 AM »
Hopefully Ellison keeps on playing like this.

 When he hits the three and can drive to the hoop and finish like he can he is the perfect player for this team.
Great win and hopefully this will get people off Chris and Mitch back for awhile.

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« Reply #178 on: December 22, 2016, 07:54:05 AM »
Hopefully Ellison keeps on playing like this.

 When he hits the three and can drive to the hoop and finish like he can he is the perfect player for this team.
Great win and hopefully this will get people off Chris and Mitch back for awhile.

Ellison also rebounded. We need him on the glass.

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« Reply #179 on: December 22, 2016, 08:02:51 AM »
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation.  Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence.  This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.

I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation.  There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team.  We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.

To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.

Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.

He's had the physical talent all along, happy to see it coming together, he's improving in leaps and bounds. Hope he keeps working on FT's, with his ability to get to the rack it will be very important down the line.