Quote from: TONYD3 on February 01, 2017, 06:07:56 AMQuote from: Amaseinyourface2 on January 31, 2017, 08:57:33 PMAssuming we get Walker, I would RS freud if he were willing. Think staff always wants a kid sitting out via transfer or other means and rf would be a player who could gain a lot by it. Agreed. RF needs to red shirt or transfer in my opinion . Don't think he will play at all next year. He has plenty of work to play at this level. As for amar, if decision is up to him. Where is he going ? Who will want him ? He will be a senior, what school will give him a scholarship for 2 years only to play 1? We should have let him leave last year.If RF transfers it's a horrible reflection on the staff. Also, their record is a horrible reflection, but Freudenberg needs at least a summer to grow up. If he returns to Germany and spends his time playing with the same garbage he did last summer, he will probably be wasting time. Let's see how serious he is, and how aware he is of what he needs to do. He's European so we have to consider that this is unlikely.
Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on January 31, 2017, 08:57:33 PMAssuming we get Walker, I would RS freud if he were willing. Think staff always wants a kid sitting out via transfer or other means and rf would be a player who could gain a lot by it. Agreed. RF needs to red shirt or transfer in my opinion . Don't think he will play at all next year. He has plenty of work to play at this level. As for amar, if decision is up to him. Where is he going ? Who will want him ? He will be a senior, what school will give him a scholarship for 2 years only to play 1? We should have let him leave last year.
Assuming we get Walker, I would RS freud if he were willing. Think staff always wants a kid sitting out via transfer or other means and rf would be a player who could gain a lot by it.
Geez , really? RF was 17 and in a foreign country. He has shown basketball smarts and his shot isnt falling - yet. But I forget who said it but " best thing about freshman is they become sophmores." The kids gonna be a good player when all is said and done. What you see in Ponds/Lovett as freshman is an rare and not usual.
AA will go if we need the scholarship. Is McMurray still looking at us? Any other transfers or known grad transfers we are considering?
Quote from: Poison on February 01, 2017, 07:35:07 AMQuote from: TONYD3 on February 01, 2017, 06:07:56 AMQuote from: Amaseinyourface2 on January 31, 2017, 08:57:33 PMAssuming we get Walker, I would RS freud if he were willing. Think staff always wants a kid sitting out via transfer or other means and rf would be a player who could gain a lot by it. Agreed. RF needs to red shirt or transfer in my opinion . Don't think he will play at all next year. He has plenty of work to play at this level. As for amar, if decision is up to him. Where is he going ? Who will want him ? He will be a senior, what school will give him a scholarship for 2 years only to play 1? We should have let him leave last year.If RF transfers it's a horrible reflection on the staff. Also, their record is a horrible reflection, but Freudenberg needs at least a summer to grow up. If he returns to Germany and spends his time playing with the same garbage he did last summer, he will probably be wasting time. Let's see how serious he is, and how aware he is of what he needs to do. He's European so we have to consider that this is unlikely. Agreed it would make the staff look bad. All of you can make as many excuses for this kid as possible. Yes he is a freshman . Yes he is new to this country. Yes he can't guard anyone. Yes he is not athletic. Yes he is not physical . This kid was a 4 star recruit . He should not be such a project. I made these same arguments against max hopper and Amar.
Quote from: Poison on February 01, 2017, 07:35:07 AMQuote from: TONYD3 on February 01, 2017, 06:07:56 AMQuote from: Amaseinyourface2 on January 31, 2017, 08:57:33 PMAssuming we get Walker, I would RS freud if he were willing. Think staff always wants a kid sitting out via transfer or other means and rf would be a player who could gain a lot by it. Agreed. RF needs to red shirt or transfer in my opinion . Don't think he will play at all next year. He has plenty of work to play at this level. As for amar, if decision is up to him. Where is he going ? Who will want him ? He will be a senior, what school will give him a scholarship for 2 years only to play 1? We should have let him leave last year.If RF transfers it's a horrible reflection on the staff. Also, their record is a horrible reflection, but Freudenberg needs at least a summer to grow up. If he returns to Germany and spends his time playing with the same garbage he did last summer, he will probably be wasting time. Let's see how serious he is, and how aware he is of what he needs to do. He's European so we have to consider that this is unlikely. So now we want RF to transfer. Kid is a freshman who barely played this year. He was one of the top European recruits last year and I don't think we should be even close to giving up on him. His first year in a new country and playing a new style of basketball. He never found his game this year but giving up on kids after one year and having them leave is no how you build a team. Also you are not going to have 13 superstars if RF ends up just being a deep bench guy which I don't think anyone can say he would be just yet that's not the worst thing in the world.
The USF kid is visiting because he is an extremely talented player and scorer who has done it vs a high level of competition and bad teams such as SJU are in no position to say no to the addition of talent irrespective of position. As for Lovett yes their are 100% rumblings that he plans on leaving as soon as the season ends. This is just a fact and those around the program know it. Now.....this kid is a decent kid with a TON of people in his ear(please notice I avoided the P word....dont want to upset Lebron and Maverick) so I think the staff believes they can convince him to stay and the alternatives are not attractive or beneficial. We shall see....
This is a longshot, but I wonder if Matt A has looked into Austin Nichols. He would be a great PF for us. Still have no idea why UVA cut ties, but we could give him another chance.
Quote from: SJU79 on December 28, 2016, 06:33:47 PMThe USF kid is visiting because he is an extremely talented player and scorer who has done it vs a high level of competition and bad teams such as SJU are in no position to say no to the addition of talent irrespective of position. As for Lovett yes their are 100% rumblings that he plans on leaving as soon as the season ends. This is just a fact and those around the program know it. Now.....this kid is a decent kid with a TON of people in his ear(please notice I avoided the P word....dont want to upset Lebron and Maverick) so I think the staff believes they can convince him to stay and the alternatives are not attractive or beneficial. We shall see....This makes perfect sense. Much like JaKarr, he's much older than his grade level and wants to get paid, I don't blame him. However I'm confident that Mullin/Mitch will be able to convince him to stay this offseason and test the NBA waters without signing a agent next May with a fantastic sophomore year underneath his belt. Bolting to live in Russia this Summer is not better than doing something special in Queens in 2018 and 2019, just ask D'Ang or any of the 2015 guys if they would kill to be back in college right now.
Starters:PG- LovettSG- PondsSF- BashirPF- ClarkC- Hopeful Grad TransferBench:Ellison, Simon, Owens, Williams,WalkerLeaving- Amar, Mussini50/50- YawkeRedshirt- Freud
Quote from: TONYD3 on February 01, 2017, 08:35:27 AMQuote from: Poison on February 01, 2017, 07:35:07 AMQuote from: TONYD3 on February 01, 2017, 06:07:56 AMQuote from: Amaseinyourface2 on January 31, 2017, 08:57:33 PMAssuming we get Walker, I would RS freud if he were willing. Think staff always wants a kid sitting out via transfer or other means and rf would be a player who could gain a lot by it. Agreed. RF needs to red shirt or transfer in my opinion . Don't think he will play at all next year. He has plenty of work to play at this level. As for amar, if decision is up to him. Where is he going ? Who will want him ? He will be a senior, what school will give him a scholarship for 2 years only to play 1? We should have let him leave last year.If RF transfers it's a horrible reflection on the staff. Also, their record is a horrible reflection, but Freudenberg needs at least a summer to grow up. If he returns to Germany and spends his time playing with the same garbage he did last summer, he will probably be wasting time. Let's see how serious he is, and how aware he is of what he needs to do. He's European so we have to consider that this is unlikely. Agreed it would make the staff look bad. All of you can make as many excuses for this kid as possible. Yes he is a freshman . Yes he is new to this country. Yes he can't guard anyone. Yes he is not athletic. Yes he is not physical . This kid was a 4 star recruit . He should not be such a project. I made these same arguments against max hopper and Amar. I think this happens often w 4 star kids. Some need to adjust, learn what it takes at this level. I think Europe hurts him because he's not getting succeeding with the same game here. He's not skilled enough now put it on floor 15 feet from the basket. He has to put the work in. He's not so unathetic, although he needs muscle. He has some talent. That's clear. I'm hoping that is learning and he will figure how he can best contribute in the 2-12 minutes he gets. Marquette isn't so quick and strong. He may get some burn tonight.
Quote from: talkbigeast on February 01, 2017, 11:12:13 AMStarters:PG- LovettSG- PondsSF- BashirPF- ClarkC- Hopeful Grad TransferBench:Ellison, Simon, Owens, Williams,WalkerLeaving- Amar, Mussini50/50- YawkeRedshirt- FreudAgree with most of this, although I hope Ahmed is coming off the bench
Quote from: Poison on February 01, 2017, 01:17:16 PMQuote from: TONYD3 on February 01, 2017, 08:35:27 AMQuote from: Poison on February 01, 2017, 07:35:07 AMQuote from: TONYD3 on February 01, 2017, 06:07:56 AMQuote from: Amaseinyourface2 on January 31, 2017, 08:57:33 PMAssuming we get Walker, I would RS freud if he were willing. Think staff always wants a kid sitting out via transfer or other means and rf would be a player who could gain a lot by it. Agreed. RF needs to red shirt or transfer in my opinion . Don't think he will play at all next year. He has plenty of work to play at this level. As for amar, if decision is up to him. Where is he going ? Who will want him ? He will be a senior, what school will give him a scholarship for 2 years only to play 1? We should have let him leave last year.If RF transfers it's a horrible reflection on the staff. Also, their record is a horrible reflection, but Freudenberg needs at least a summer to grow up. If he returns to Germany and spends his time playing with the same garbage he did last summer, he will probably be wasting time. Let's see how serious he is, and how aware he is of what he needs to do. He's European so we have to consider that this is unlikely. Agreed it would make the staff look bad. All of you can make as many excuses for this kid as possible. Yes he is a freshman . Yes he is new to this country. Yes he can't guard anyone. Yes he is not athletic. Yes he is not physical . This kid was a 4 star recruit . He should not be such a project. I made these same arguments against max hopper and Amar. I think this happens often w 4 star kids. Some need to adjust, learn what it takes at this level. I think Europe hurts him because he's not getting succeeding with the same game here. He's not skilled enough now put it on floor 15 feet from the basket. He has to put the work in. He's not so unathetic, although he needs muscle. He has some talent. That's clear. I'm hoping that is learning and he will figure how he can best contribute in the 2-12 minutes he gets. Marquette isn't so quick and strong. He may get some burn tonight. Aside from probably Creighton, Marquette is the quickest team in the BE
As for RF:Another 4 star 6'8 freshman who we also recruited currently at Kansas is playing much like RF. Sometimes you just gotta watch, work and learn your freshman year.