Matt A

Bottom line Matt is here because Chris wants him here.  If that changes because Chris changes his mind then Matt won't be here, that is FACT.

Matt is not being forced on Chris because of money.  Period. I could care less what others at SJU think that means nothing.  Mullin is the HC just like Jay Wright at Villanova and Tom Izzo at Michigan St.  They have their staff because it is who they want, period.  FACT.

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Quote from: goredmen on March 24, 2018, 10:28:30 PM

I hate being the guy that starts stuff especially when there's probably nothing to it but....

Remember around this time last year when Will Wade was named head coach at LSU and Matt started following all of those LSU accounts on Twitter and there was legit fire to go along with the smoke in the Matt to LSU rumors.

Well, a couple very interesting new follows by Matt on Twitter...

I can say confidently if he leaves the school is fine with it. He isn't getting fired but higher powers are tired of the money gran and he isn't the only one

And no-one has forgotten the article he wrote in the post last year knocking the staff but not him

I am always fascinated with this, last time I checked Matt doesn't have a lifetime contract.   His assistant contract needs to be re-upped in addition his boss is the HC of SJU who can get rid of him anytime.   This is not some sort of hostage situation, he holds zero power or authority at SJU.  Do you think if Mike Krzyzewski is dissatisfied with any assistant he is somehow forced to keep him? 

Matt is here because Chris wants him here, you have a problem with that you have a problem with Chris as the head coach, period.   Stop making this about an assistant.

it's not about a lifetime contract but people within the school have been annoyed by him always wanting more money since after the first season. This is a separate issue than the coach which is why I didnt mention the coach. Matt wont get fired because they aren't eating any of his contract which I'm pretty sure he got raise last year and I was told he is the highest paid assistant in the big east. Well at least that's what someone from the school said.. DO I want him to leave ? No. But all I said is if he took another job the school wouldn't be upset. And thats a FACT and I'm not speaking for Mullin. This comes from the school as of maybe 4 months ago

Quote from: mjmaherjr on March 25, 2018, 09:52:40 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on March 25, 2018, 09:14:45 AM

Quote from: mjmaherjr on March 25, 2018, 05:30:41 AM

Quote from: goredmen on March 24, 2018, 10:28:30 PM

I hate being the guy that starts stuff especially when there's probably nothing to it but....

Remember around this time last year when Will Wade was named head coach at LSU and Matt started following all of those LSU accounts on Twitter and there was legit fire to go along with the smoke in the Matt to LSU rumors.

Well, a couple very interesting new follows by Matt on Twitter...

I can say confidently if he leaves the school is fine with it. He isn't getting fired but higher powers are tired of the money gran and he isn't the only one

And no-one has forgotten the article he wrote in the post last year knocking the staff but not him

I am always fascinated with this, last time I checked Matt doesn't have a lifetime contract.   His assistant contract needs to be re-upped in addition his boss is the HC of SJU who can get rid of him anytime.   This is not some sort of hostage situation, he holds zero power or authority at SJU.  Do you think if Mike Krzyzewski is dissatisfied with any assistant he is somehow forced to keep him? 

Matt is here because Chris wants him here, you have a problem with that you have a problem with Chris as the head coach, period.   Stop making this about an assistant.

it's not about a lifetime contract but people within the school have been annoyed by him always wanting more money since after the first season. This is a separate issue than the coach which is why I didnt mention the coach. Matt wont get fired because they aren't eating any of his contract which I'm pretty sure he got raise last year and I was told he is the highest paid assistant in the big east. Well at least that's what someone from the school said.. DO I want him to leave ? No. But all I said is if he took another job the school wouldn't be upset. And thats a FACT and I'm not speaking for Mullin. This comes from the school as of maybe 4 months ago

Hate to break it to you but this is not how assistant coaching contracts work and Chris controls it as does every HC.

Furthermore if SJU is being hamstrung by its 3rd assistant then everyone involved with the program from Chris Mullin to the AD should be fired immediately.

Furthermore there is no way in hell Chris allows a assistant to negotiate a contract without his explicit endorsement nor would any HC.  They wouldn't be a HC then. 

And lastly if Matt's contract is so punitive that he can't be fired then SJU does belong in the MAAC.

Hate to break it to you but Matt did in fact go to the school for more money. Did he go to Chris first ? It's possible. But he did go to the school. The school is still paying Slice. They'd rather not pay matt too for not working. This is a fact

Oh and another assistant wants more money too

The thing that concerns me is that Matt A is not expendable because he's the only assistant who's active and effective in recruiting. It's not even about his prowess, it's that he's literally the only guy doing that aspect for the job. This is on Mullin.

The thing that concerns me is that Matt A is not expendable because he's the only assistant who's active and effective in recruiting. It's not even about his prowess, it's that he's literally the only guy doing that aspect for the job. This is on Mullin.

absolutely agree

Quote from: mjmaherjr on March 25, 2018, 09:52:40 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on March 25, 2018, 09:14:45 AM

Quote from: mjmaherjr on March 25, 2018, 05:30:41 AM

Quote from: goredmen on March 24, 2018, 10:28:30 PM

I hate being the guy that starts stuff especially when there's probably nothing to it but....

Remember around this time last year when Will Wade was named head coach at LSU and Matt started following all of those LSU accounts on Twitter and there was legit fire to go along with the smoke in the Matt to LSU rumors.

Well, a couple very interesting new follows by Matt on Twitter...

I can say confidently if he leaves the school is fine with it. He isn't getting fired but higher powers are tired of the money gran and he isn't the only one

And no-one has forgotten the article he wrote in the post last year knocking the staff but not him

I am always fascinated with this, last time I checked Matt doesn't have a lifetime contract.   His assistant contract needs to be re-upped in addition his boss is the HC of SJU who can get rid of him anytime.   This is not some sort of hostage situation, he holds zero power or authority at SJU.  Do you think if Mike Krzyzewski is dissatisfied with any assistant he is somehow forced to keep him? 

Matt is here because Chris wants him here, you have a problem with that you have a problem with Chris as the head coach, period.   Stop making this about an assistant.

it's not about a lifetime contract but people within the school have been annoyed by him always wanting more money since after the first season. This is a separate issue than the coach which is why I didnt mention the coach. Matt wont get fired because they aren't eating any of his contract which I'm pretty sure he got raise last year and I was told he is the highest paid assistant in the big east. Well at least that's what someone from the school said.. DO I want him to leave ? No. But all I said is if he took another job the school wouldn't be upset. And thats a FACT and I'm not speaking for Mullin. This comes from the school as of maybe 4 months ago

Mullin needs to manage thus internal stuff, but it appears he is a very lay back guy. Not bashing him, but as a “manager” I thought he also needed to resolve Slice discontent & his differences with Matt. The latter created bad optics and gave grist for the mill to our competitors. Lord knows he brokered great salaries for these guys & should have just told them to suck it up & stop the nonsense. Just my take, but maybe there was more to it. In any event this assistant coach drama has not been helpful.

I really didn't like the way it appeared Matt went about procuring the raise last off-season.  Maybe CM hitched his wagon to the wrong horse.

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Quote from: mjmaherjr on March 25, 2018, 09:52:40 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on March 25, 2018, 09:14:45 AM

Quote from: mjmaherjr on March 25, 2018, 05:30:41 AM

Quote from: goredmen on March 24, 2018, 10:28:30 PM

I hate being the guy that starts stuff especially when there's probably nothing to it but....

Remember around this time last year when Will Wade was named head coach at LSU and Matt started following all of those LSU accounts on Twitter and there was legit fire to go along with the smoke in the Matt to LSU rumors.

Well, a couple very interesting new follows by Matt on Twitter...

I can say confidently if he leaves the school is fine with it. He isn't getting fired but higher powers are tired of the money gran and he isn't the only one

And no-one has forgotten the article he wrote in the post last year knocking the staff but not him

I am always fascinated with this, last time I checked Matt doesn't have a lifetime contract.   His assistant contract needs to be re-upped in addition his boss is the HC of SJU who can get rid of him anytime.   This is not some sort of hostage situation, he holds zero power or authority at SJU.  Do you think if Mike Krzyzewski is dissatisfied with any assistant he is somehow forced to keep him? 

Matt is here because Chris wants him here, you have a problem with that you have a problem with Chris as the head coach, period.   Stop making this about an assistant.

it's not about a lifetime contract but people within the school have been annoyed by him always wanting more money since after the first season. This is a separate issue than the coach which is why I didnt mention the coach. Matt wont get fired because they aren't eating any of his contract which I'm pretty sure he got raise last year and I was told he is the highest paid assistant in the big east. Well at least that's what someone from the school said.. DO I want him to leave ? No. But all I said is if he took another job the school wouldn't be upset. And thats a FACT and I'm not speaking for Mullin. This comes from the school as of maybe 4 months ago

Mullin needs to manage thus internal stuff, but it appears he is a very lay back guy. Not bashing him, but as a “manager” I thought he also needed to resolve Slice discontent & his differences with Matt. The latter created bad optics and gave grist for the mill to our competitors. Lord knows he brokered great salaries for these guys & should have just told them to suck it up & stop the nonsense. Just my take, but maybe there was more to it. In any event this assistant coach drama has not been helpful.

I really didn't like the way it appeared Matt went about procuring the raise last off-season.  Maybe CM hitched his wagon to the wrong stable.

FIFY

Every employee wants more money, and assistant coaches in men's hoops are no different.  This stuff should be kept in-house, as Paultz noted. 

Bottom line Matt is here because Chris wants him here.  If that changes because Chris changes his mind then Matt won't be here, that is FACT.

Matt is not being forced on Chris because of money.  Period. I could care less what others at SJU think that means nothing.  Mullin is the HC just like Jay Wright at Villanova and Tom Izzo at Michigan St.  They have their staff because it is who they want, period.  FACT.

There was literally nothing in this post that has anything to do with anything posted.  This is like a seinfeld post about nothing

Not once did I claim that Mullin wanted Matt gone. Not once did I post that Matt is being forced on Mullin

All I wrote which is absolutely true is that the school wouldn't be disappointed if Matt ended up taking a job at another school. If the team wins then they wont mind as much paying more money. This is fact. This has nothing to do with Mullin

Do we have to deal with this negotiating tactic every April? Enough. 15 schools represented upstate this wknd and we're not present, what is going on?

15 schools represented upstate this wknd and we're not present, what is going on?

It's not hard to figure out.

Seriously this is about as surprising as Trump cheating on his wife.

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15 schools represented upstate this wknd and we're not present, what is going on?

It's not hard to figure out.

It´s very sad. I always thought that Coach Mullin would be much more active in recruiting area.

Are the coaches allowed any time off after the season? Are we sure we know everything  the staff is doing?

So does anybody know what is happening here? Seems fairly obvious to me he's up to something again. Is he actually trying to leave on his own? Is he just bluffing more money again? Has Mullin and the administration had enough of him to the point where they are trying to push him out the door without having to fire him?

Do we have to deal with this negotiating tactic every April? Enough. 15 schools represented upstate this wknd and we're not present, what is going on?

Any school, any school, would NEVER allow an assistant to ever hold a program hostage let alone a head coach who runs it.  NEVER.

Pitt and UCONN just fired HC's with punitive buyouts knowing full well despite the legal wrangling they will most likely have to pay mostvif not all if it.

Chris Mullin runs SJU basketball.   He decides who is hired and who is fired.  He decides what recruits come to SJU and who doesn't.   Period.  The minute that changes is the minute he is no longer the head coach.

This has nothing to do with being pro Chris or anti-Chris or pro-Matt or anti-Matt. It is because it is. 

Matt was at PSAL semi finals at SJU, but surprisingly no staff attended the CHSAA Semis or Final despite Kofi, Davis & other very good prospects playing. It used to be a give in that SJU staff would attend, but that has lessened through the years.

Matt was at PSAL semi finals at SJU, but surprisingly no staff attended the CHSAA Semis or Final despite Kofi, Davis & other very good prospects playing. It used to be a give in that SJU staff would attend, but that has lessened through the years.

Disgraceful , lazy and arrogant on so many levels.

Matt was at PSAL semi finals at SJU, but surprisingly no staff attended the CHSAA Semis or Final despite Kofi, Davis & other very good prospects playing. It used to be a give in that SJU staff would attend, but that has lessened through the years.

This is something easy to criticize, but I really don't understand any excuse why we wouldn't have one person there. It's not like we're playing games right now. Even if we aren't interested in any of the kids (and we are), shouldn't there just be a presence there for the sake of showing face, relationships with coaches, and maybe finding a hidden gem on these teams?

Quote from: paultzman on March 25, 2018, 11:59:33 AM

Matt was at PSAL semi finals at SJU, but surprisingly no staff attended the CHSAA Semis or Final despite Kofi, Davis & other very good prospects playing. It used to be a give in that SJU staff would attend, but that has lessened through the years.

Disgraceful , lazy and arrogant on so many levels.

Those words, and what you commented on, reminds me of the Jarvis era.

An in depth NY Post article  from Zach on the state on SJU recruiting would be ideal right about now