CBI/CIT

St. John's shouldn't be "above" playing anyone.  They're bad.  The only way you can get better is by playing.  If anyone on the team, staff, or administration is saying they're above the CBI, those people are part of the problem.  This isn't 1985-1986.  Everyone needs to accept where this program is and understand you need to play to get better.  It's a young team and if they got invited they should take it.

St. John's shouldn't be "above" playing anyone.  They're bad.  The only way you can get better is by playing.  If anyone on the team, staff, or administration is saying they're above the CBI, those people are part of the problem.  This isn't 1985-1986.  Everyone needs to accept where this program is and understand you need to play to get better.  It's a young team and if they got invited they should take it.

DePaul is bad. We are young and improving.

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:45:14 PM

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

8-12 in the BE is better than half of the teams in the NIT field.

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Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:45:14 PM

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

8-12 in the BE is better than half of the teams in the NIT field.

Yeah the low major autobids, not the at larges

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Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 08:49:46 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:45:14 PM

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

8-12 in the BE is better than half of the teams in the NIT field.

Yeah the low major autobids, not the at larges

Clemson, for example. Are they any better than we are? The win loss record shouldn't matter as much as a waded grade.

Would we accept an invite to the NIT?

Would we accept an invite to the NIT?

We didn't get one, but probably. We had better accept a bid to the CBI/CIT. Time to take your medicine.

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Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:57:10 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 08:49:46 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:45:14 PM

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

8-12 in the BE is better than half of the teams in the NIT field.

Yeah the low major autobids, not the at larges

Clemson, for example. Are they any better than we are? The win loss record shouldn't matter as much as a waded grade.

Lol. Clemson is way better than us. If we played them on a neutral floor they'd be about 6 point favorites.

By the way, was looking at last year's CBI field and no teams from any of the power conferences made it so I'm not even sure we'd be eligible for the CBI anymore

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Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 09:00:19 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:57:10 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 08:49:46 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:45:14 PM

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

8-12 in the BE is better than half of the teams in the NIT field.

Yeah the low major autobids, not the at larges

Clemson, for example. Are they any better than we are? The win loss record shouldn't matter as much as a waded grade.

Lol. Clemson is way better than us. If we played them on a neutral floor they'd be about 6 point favorites.

By the way, was looking at last year's CBI field and no teams from any of the power conferences made it so I'm not even sure we'd be eligible for the CBI anymore

Not only is Clemson not "way better" than us, by the conference numbers, they aren't as good as us. High majors can choose to play in the CBI or the CIT. Auburn figured they were above it. They aren't, but that's the shit Bruce Pearl is pulling.

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 09:15:53 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 09:00:19 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:57:10 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 08:49:46 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:45:14 PM

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

8-12 in the BE is better than half of the teams in the NIT field.

Yeah the low major autobids, not the at larges

Clemson, for example. Are they any better than we are? The win loss record shouldn't matter as much as a waded grade.

Lol. Clemson is way better than us. If we played them on a neutral floor they'd be about 6 point favorites.

By the way, was looking at last year's CBI field and no teams from any of the power conferences made it so I'm not even sure we'd be eligible for the CBI anymore

We are def not eligible for CIT. Maybe the Vegas 16 will call.

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Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 09:15:53 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 09:00:19 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:57:10 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 08:49:46 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:45:14 PM

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

8-12 in the BE is better than half of the teams in the NIT field.

Yeah the low major autobids, not the at larges

Clemson, for example. Are they any better than we are? The win loss record shouldn't matter as much as a waded grade.

Lol. Clemson is way better than us. If we played them on a neutral floor they'd be about 6 point favorites.

By the way, was looking at last year's CBI field and no teams from any of the power conferences made it so I'm not even sure we'd be eligible for the CBI anymore

Not only is Clemson not "way better" than us, by the conference numbers, they aren't as good as us. High majors can choose to play in the CBI or the CIT. Auburn figured they were above it. They aren't, but that's the shit Bruce Pearl is pulling.

You are so off base on this it's painful. Kenpom, which is essentially how Vegas makes their lines, has Clemson as the 35th best team in the country. We are 94th. The numbers translate to them being roughly 6 points favorites against us on a neutral floor and in today's college basketball landscape where 6 points ia lot, that equals way better than us

Sorry to the fam we didn't make the CBI

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Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 09:31:24 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 09:15:53 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 09:00:19 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:57:10 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 12, 2017, 08:49:46 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 08:45:14 PM

Fingers crossed we make the CBI/CIT dance.

Lol we won't. We went 14-19. Season is over

8-12 in the BE is better than half of the teams in the NIT field.

Yeah the low major autobids, not the at larges

Clemson, for example. Are they any better than we are? The win loss record shouldn't matter as much as a waded grade.

Lol. Clemson is way better than us. If we played them on a neutral floor they'd be about 6 point favorites.

By the way, was looking at last year's CBI field and no teams from any of the power conferences made it so I'm not even sure we'd be eligible for the CBI anymore

Not only is Clemson not "way better" than us, by the conference numbers, they aren't as good as us. High majors can choose to play in the CBI or the CIT. Auburn figured they were above it. They aren't, but that's the shit Bruce Pearl is pulling.

You are so off base on this it's painful. Kenpom, which is essentially how Vegas makes their lines, has Clemson as the 35th best team in the country. We are 94th. The numbers translate to them being roughly 6 points favorites against us on a neutral floor and in today's college basketball landscape where 6 points ia lot, that equals way better than us

It's painful? No it isn't. It's actually simple arithmetic. The numbers don't need to be translated. We won 8 conference games. Clemson won 6.

It's painful? No it isn't. It's actually simple arithmetic. The numbers don't need to be translated. We won 8 conference games. Clemson won 6.

Yeah, that's the right way to look at it. If we played Clemson's ACC schedule there's no way we win more than 6. If they played our schedule of DePaul twice and Gtown 3 times, they win more than 8.

We won 14 games, they won 17. They played in a better conference than we did. They played a tougher non conference schedule than we did. They are way better than us which is why they made the NIT and we would have been laughed at if we thought we were an NIT team

Sorry to the fam we didn't make the CBI

Gee what a shock.

No big conference teams in the CBI again. George Washington from the A10 the highest profile program

2011 Iona went to CBI and made it to championship game, got 4 extra games. Got an unheard of at large bid the very next season. But I guess it wouldn't have helped St Johns

2011 Iona went to CBI and made it to championship game, got 4 extra games. Got an unheard of at large bid the very next season. But I guess it wouldn't have helped St Johns

Last year Morehead St went to the finals. This year they went 14-16
In 2015 Loyola Chi played Louisiana Monroe. In 2016 Loyola Chi went 15-17 and Louisiana Monroe went to the CIT
In 2014 Siena vs Fresno in the finals. In 2015 Siena went 11-20. Fresno went 15-17
2013 was George Mason vs Santa Clara. In 2014 George Mason went 11-20 and Santa Clara went 14-19

Seems that there's little to no correlation between playing in the CBI one year and being successful the next.

Regardless, we weren't even invited to the CBI this year. We aren't above the CBI. The CBI is above us

Quote from: Poison on March 12, 2017, 10:19:28 PM

It's painful? No it isn't. It's actually simple arithmetic. The numbers don't need to be translated. We won 8 conference games. Clemson won 6.

Yeah, that's the right way to look at it. If we played Clemson's ACC schedule there's no way we win more than 6. If they played our schedule of DePaul twice and Gtown 3 times, they win more than 8.

We won 14 games, they won 17. They played in a better conference than we did. They played a tougher non conference schedule than we did. They are way better than us which is why they made the NIT and we would have been laughed at if we thought we were an NIT team

Outside of two games (on the road versus Louisville and Florida State), Clemson was certainly competitive in the majority of their games.  Hopefully, we can make the jump (to an NCAA Tournament team) next season, but Clemson was better than us this season, IMO.

We are def not eligible for CIT. Maybe the Vegas 16 will call.

The Vegas 16 postseason tournament is a 'no go.'

http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/basketball/vegasmadness/vegas-16-postseason-tournament-won-t-be-played-year