Transfer wish list

Never seen this Cheatham.  You don't like him?

Never seen this Cheatham.  You don't like him?

Never heard of him.

Are we desperate yet?

Heck yes!!!!

Quote from: prjohnnies on April 19, 2017, 09:19:16 PM

Never seen this Cheatham.  You don't like him?

Never heard of him.

The kid is a serious player. The only problems are that he will have to sit next year and he wants to play on the perimeter more--which he clearly is lot suited for at this time.

At least coming from being coached by Steve Fisher you know he can play D and rebound.

Ranked 70th coming out of high school averaged 7 and 5 as a freshman for a team that went 28-10 and averaged 9 and 6 last year.....i will take him as a sit 1 play two transfer....pretty good stats and good ranking for people "never hearing of him" cant tell if you being serious on this one cause this kid will be a very good get.

Ranked 70th coming out of high school averaged 7 and 5 as a freshman for a team that went 28-10 and averaged 9 and 6 last year.....i will take him as a sit 1 play two transfer....pretty good stats and good ranking for people "never hearing of him" cant tell if you being serious on this one cause this kid will be a very good get.

I would take him as well.  The only issue is how many years of eligibility will he actually have left.  Remember the general rule is you get 5 years to play 4.  Cheatham redshirted his 1st year.  Combined that with sitting out this coming year and that means after he plays in 2018-19 he will have used up his 5 years (3 at SDSU and 2 at SJU) having played only 3 years.  In other words he will have to ask the NCAA for a 6th year waiver.  Most 6th year waivers are granted based on injuries that prevented the player from playing.  His application might be tricky since he did not redshirt his 1st year due to injury.

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

How common is that?

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2017, 09:08:17 AM

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

How common is that?

Not very so let's not speculate that far out especially for a guy who is not even committed yet.

Quote from: talkbigeast on April 20, 2017, 08:32:55 AM

Ranked 70th coming out of high school averaged 7 and 5 as a freshman for a team that went 28-10 and averaged 9 and 6 last year.....i will take him as a sit 1 play two transfer....pretty good stats and good ranking for people "never hearing of him" cant tell if you being serious on this one cause this kid will be a very good get.

I would take him as well.  The only issue is how many years of eligibility will he actually have left.  Remember the general rule is you get 5 years to play 4.  Cheatham redshirted his 1st year.  Combined that with sitting out this coming year and that means after he plays in 2018-19 he will have used up his 5 years (3 at SDSU and 2 at SJU) having played only 3 years.  In other words he will have to ask the NCAA for a 6th year waiver.  Most 6th year waivers are granted based on injuries that prevented the player from playing.  His application might be tricky since he did not redshirt his 1st year due to injury.

Believe he did redshirt due to injury. Had foot surgery and decided to redshirt on Jan 13 of his true frosh season.

6 9 previous 4 star recruit. Id take him. People act as if recruits are banging at our door and we have the pick of the litter. I wouldn't count on Naz and Brown.

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.

He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2017, 09:08:17 AM

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.

He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.

Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.

Quote from: Marillac on April 20, 2017, 01:45:12 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2017, 09:08:17 AM

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.

He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.

Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.

Chris Obekpa

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2017, 02:29:57 PM

Quote from: Marillac on April 20, 2017, 01:45:12 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2017, 09:08:17 AM

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.

He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.

Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.

Chris Obekpa

Yup but I was thinking more of someone who transferred to play somewhere else.

Quote from: fordham96 on April 20, 2017, 08:50:57 AM

Quote from: talkbigeast on April 20, 2017, 08:32:55 AM

Ranked 70th coming out of high school averaged 7 and 5 as a freshman for a team that went 28-10 and averaged 9 and 6 last year.....i will take him as a sit 1 play two transfer....pretty good stats and good ranking for people "never hearing of him" cant tell if you being serious on this one cause this kid will be a very good get.

I would take him as well.  The only issue is how many years of eligibility will he actually have left.  Remember the general rule is you get 5 years to play 4.  Cheatham redshirted his 1st year.  Combined that with sitting out this coming year and that means after he plays in 2018-19 he will have used up his 5 years (3 at SDSU and 2 at SJU) having played only 3 years.  In other words he will have to ask the NCAA for a 6th year waiver.  Most 6th year waivers are granted based on injuries that prevented the player from playing.  His application might be tricky since he did not redshirt his 1st year due to injury.

Believe he did redshirt due to injury. Had foot surgery and decided to redshirt on Jan 13 of his true frosh season.

Stand corrected you are right sir.  Should make his application for a 6th year easier.

I hear his late great grandfather was the ageless wonder Doc Cheatham.

Doc

Quote from: Marillac on April 20, 2017, 01:45:12 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2017, 09:08:17 AM

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.

He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.

Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.

You have to earn at least 60 credits after matriculating into St. John's to receive a diploma from them regardless of how many credits you earned elsewhere. E.g., you can't do 3 1/2 years at Hofstra and a semester at St. John's and get a diploma from St. John's. As a former transfer to SJU, I know this very well.

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2017, 02:29:57 PM

Quote from: Marillac on April 20, 2017, 01:45:12 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 20, 2017, 09:08:17 AM

Also a threat he could sit out and transfer as a grad before he even plays for us.

It would be virtually impossible to accumulate the 60+ credits SJU requires to earn at SJU to grant a degree in just one year.

He'll get his sixth year if he wants it. Everyone gets it these days. At that point, I'd worry about a transfer.

Tranfer credits? Fordham is right and I don't want to speculate. It's just the way college game is now. I'm sure many kids have transferred to a school and left before ever playing.

You have to earn at least 60 credits after matriculating into St. John's to receive a diploma from them regardless of how many credits you earned elsewhere. E.g., you can't do 3 1/2 years at Hofstra and a semester at St. John's and get a diploma from St. John's. As a former transfer to SJU, I know this very well.

Where did you transfer in from?

I hear his late great grandfather was the ageless wonder Doc Cheatham.

Doc

Big plus 1 for that reference.