Darien Williams and Malik Ellison transferring

Not all of them being recruited by probably the best defensive team in the nation either. Defense being our problem area

And Ellison being part of the problem.

He's also being recruited by Harvard. Does that make him smart or is he simply fortunate that there are no SAT questions about how wide a basketball court is.

Ellison is the kind of kid that looks good on paper and highlights, but his problems are less obvious. His basketball IQ right now is just awful. The best way to give a transfer the proper
context seems to be how the fans react to them leaving. When you see the fans upset and writing about  how the kid hustled , played smart, and will be missed...it's a very good sign.

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

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Ellison down to Pitt,  UVA and Harvard.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/853951515421265921

I would be excited to see his defense take off under Bennett.

Wonder why Ellison left?

He got recruited over

He did?

He didn't?

So we had no minutes for a guy with offers from ACC teams?

Baldi! You're catching on!

Took me long enough

He plays the same positions as what should be our best four players-Ponds, Lovett, Simon and Ahmed.

Was kinda hoping Clark is better than Ahmed. The fact that other coaches see promise in Ellison that would never be realized here...that's the problem

Owens, Clark, Simon, Ahmed, Ponds, Lovett, Yakwe and Mussini will be the 8 man rotation. If you want to argue that Ellison is better than Mussini fine but Mussini brings a different if limited skill set than the other 7 guys.

Great post.  Ellison was clearly 9th man.  I'm bummed he's gone bc he has talent and injuries always happen but it's not like we lost Lovett here (and that's what baldi was counting on so it seems he's just continuing on as if we lost Lovett).

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

After what game was that? Both should have improved, both played a ton of minutes.

A top 25 team seems to think he is ACC worthy

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Quote from: rlogazino on April 17, 2017, 09:55:06 AM

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Ellison down to Pitt,  UVA and Harvard.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/853951515421265921

I would be excited to see his defense take off under Bennett.

Wonder why Ellison left?

He got recruited over

He did?

He didn't?

So we had no minutes for a guy with offers from ACC teams?

Baldi! You're catching on!

Took me long enough

He plays the same positions as what should be our best four players-Ponds, Lovett, Simon and Ahmed.

Was kinda hoping Clark is better than Ahmed. The fact that other coaches see promise in Ellison that would never be realized here...that's the problem

Owens, Clark, Simon, Ahmed, Ponds, Lovett, Yakwe and Mussini will be the 8 man rotation. If you want to argue that Ellison is better than Mussini fine but Mussini brings a different if limited skill set than the other 7 guys.

Great post.  Ellison was clearly 9th man.  I'm bummed he's gone bc he has talent and injuries always happen but it's not like we lost Lovett here (and that's what baldi was counting on so it seems he's just continuing on as if we lost Lovett).

Counting on Lovett leaving? Could care less if he did, SJU could not make any tournament with or without

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Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

After what game was that? Both should have improved, both played a ton of minutes.

A top 25 team seems to think he is ACC worthy

Or you know they could just want him at the end of the bench...

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Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

After what game was that? Both should have improved, both played a ton of minutes.

It was Creighton, one game before the regular season ended and two years into his career. The next game against Providence he scored zero points in 23 minutes. Was the Friar game the one that revealed his enormous potential? Or was it the four points he scored in the 40 point loss to Villanova that turned your head?

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Quote from: Foad on April 17, 2017, 03:39:24 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

After what game was that? Both should have improved, both played a ton of minutes.

It was Creighton, one game before the regular season ended and two years into his career. The next game against Providence he scored zero points in 23 minutes. Was the Friar game the one that revealed his enormous potential? Or was it the four points he scored in the 40 point loss to Villanova that turned your head?

Plenty of questions for Tony Bennet and Virginia to answer

Washington did not make any tournament with the soon to be Number 1 one draft pick....think you are being way to hard on Lovett

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Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 04:01:30 PM

Quote from: Foad on April 17, 2017, 03:39:24 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

After what game was that? Both should have improved, both played a ton of minutes.

It was Creighton, one game before the regular season ended and two years into his career. The next game against Providence he scored zero points in 23 minutes. Was the Friar game the one that revealed his enormous potential? Or was it the four points he scored in the 40 point loss to Villanova that turned your head?

Plenty of questions for Tony Bennet and Virginia to answer

And one for you to answer, which you can't.  So I'll answer for you: when Ellison was at St John's he stunk and once he transferred he became an excellent basketball player who was a valuable piece of the puzzle.

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Quote from: Foad on April 17, 2017, 03:39:24 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

After what game was that? Both should have improved, both played a ton of minutes.

It was Creighton, one game before the regular season ended and two years into his career. The next game against Providence he scored zero points in 23 minutes. Was the Friar game the one that revealed his enormous potential? Or was it the four points he scored in the 40 point loss to Villanova that turned your head?

I called him out too and he denies ever trashing Ellison, but now he acts like he was some integral part of the team next year because a couple of ACC schools came calling.

Quote from: Foad on April 17, 2017, 03:39:24 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

After what game was that? Both should have improved, both played a ton of minutes.

A top 25 team seems to think he is ACC worthy

Except right now Pitt is a hot mess and Virginia isn't all that far behind. Bennett will likely get it back on the right track but he's lost almost his whole team to graduation/transfers and only has one 2017 recruit signed. He needs bodies right now. But hey, don't let reality get in your way to make terrible points

Ellison sucked so bad, he only played 25 minutes a game. We need to recruit guys who don't need to improve

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Quote from: Foad on April 17, 2017, 03:39:24 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

After what game was that? Both should have improved, both played a ton of minutes.

A top 25 team seems to think he is ACC worthy

Except right now Pitt is a hot mess and Virginia isn't all that far behind. Bennett will likely get it back on the right track but he's lost almost his whole team to graduation/transfers and only has one 2017 recruit signed. He needs bodies right now. But hey, don't let reality get in your way to make terrible points

St Johns didn't make a C tournament. Hot mess?

Ellison sucked so bad, he only played 25 minutes a game. We need to recruit guys who don't need to improve

Does he stink or is he a great loss. You said both. Pick one.

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Ellison sucked so bad, he only played 25 minutes a game. We need to recruit guys who don't need to improve

Does he stink or is he a great loss. You said both. Pick one.

He stinks and he is a great loss. Maybe that's the problem

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Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 04:46:17 PM

Ellison sucked so bad, he only played 25 minutes a game. We need to recruit guys who don't need to improve

Does he stink or is he a great loss. You said both. Pick one.

He stinks and he is a great loss. Maybe that's the problem

That doesn't even make sense...

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 17, 2017, 03:14:38 PM

Who gets to the tournament first? This staff or Ellison?

Ellison has to sit out a year, so this staff.

Question: in mid February you said "Yakwe is horrendous, and Ellison is worse." What transpired in the past six weeks to so change your opinion about Malik Ellison, who is now a valuable ACC asset?

Baldi!